Nov. 4, 2025

The Bill Martinez Show 11 04 25

The Bill Martinez Show 11 04 25
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The Bill Martinez Show 11 04 25
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Are you ready?

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Yeah, Okay, let's do it.

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Ill Martinez Live a program about current events, our culture,

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our values, our politics, and our future.

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And now Bill Martinez.

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Well, good morning, glad you could join us six minutes

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after the top. They are right now. I've Bill Martinez.

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He's Horace Cooper, the legal analyst and author. Hey, Horace,

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how you doing.

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It's great to be on the program.

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Hey, always good to have you here. The madness from

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the Democrats continues, and it seems like it's going to

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be signed, sealed, and delivered after this Mamdani victory that

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many are predicting in New York.

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Well, here's what I've been seeing, and it's started during

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the first Trump administration, and it's going really, really rapidly,

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and that is that the world's oldest political party, the Democrats,

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are being hollowed out. That party is being hollowed out

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from the inside by radicals. They are eating out all

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of the meat of the party. I am not a Democrat.

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I have never been a Democrat. However, I am a

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person who's always believed that competition is great. Two refrigerator

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makers is better than one, exactly, two car makers, well,

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two political parties, except when one has turned completely and

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totally radical and is rejected, rejected by large segments of

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the American population. They're looking at a circumstance where their

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presidential nominee might be lucky to get fifteen states, I

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mean lucky and could probably get as few as five,

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when the American people have so rejected them exactly.

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Well, you know, the difference between having two refrigerator makers

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is that those refrigerator makers, at the end of the day,

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want to create a device that will keep your food

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cloat cool, right right, Okay, But in this particular case,

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when you've got a party that is no longer in

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sync with the Constitution and the higher ideals of an

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American idea, they're off the reservation.

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Oh, They're the well passed being off the reservation. It's like,

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by this refrigerator, it not only isn't going to keep

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your food cool, but it's gonna help destroy the electrical

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system in your house. That's not really an alternative. And seriously,

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when you look at what mayor to b Momdami is

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talking about, it is radical and it is dramatic. But

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I want people to understand how many so called mainstream

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democrats have denounced him how many have said get out

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of the party, you don't represent us.

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None.

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In fact, mainstream Democrats have either been silent or they

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have endorsed him, whom AOC and Bernie Sanders hold a

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rally again. They said things that are a untrue about

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America and B they are awful ideas about what kinds

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of policies that they want to offer to the American people.

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They are destructive, They harm our families, they harm our economy.

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And yet again mainstream media says, oh wow, look at

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the size of the crowd that came, and it was

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almost like a hey, missus Lincoln. But what did you

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think of the costumes of the fighting?

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Right? Yeah, exactly, Well, Horas, the whole thing is just such.

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I don't know, you have to really suspend your own

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intellect and ignore I mean in the air of information

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chat GBTAI, you mean to tell me you can't do

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any research whatsoever on communism and socialism and see what

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the evidence demonstrates time and again, historically, without argument.

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Every time we have seen the threat of communism. Once

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it's defeated, the advocates say, oh, it was a practiced right,

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we actually do it correctly. It's not the communism, that's

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the problem. They say, it's the individuals who implement it.

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They say, every time it's tried, it devastates the society,

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It kills legions of human beings as it carries out

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its goals. And yet they continue to say, but the

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communist called themselves socialists. Let's be clear. So now when

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Democrats say so and so is not a communist, they're

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a socialists. I'm saying, you're saying they're communists. Isn't that right? Seriously,

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why have the Democrats gotten together to shut government down?

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Because they're afraid if they don't take a position that

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they can't explain, that they can't justify, and that is

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harming their party while harming other Americans, they will lose

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and they will lose their sinecures, they will lose their positions.

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And they're more interested in appeasing the radical than they

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aren't standing up and doing the right thing.

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I mean, they're abandoning their core allegiance of Democrats horace.

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I mean, which you know, let's say, arguably it represents

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forty five to fifty percent. They've abandoned that for a

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sliver of that party, the hard wing, that the rest

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of the Democrats are just sitting there going, well, maybe

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they're just going through a phase and they'll grow up

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and go out of this. Well. I think they said

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something similar to that in Venezuela, didn't they.

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That's absolutely correct, that's absolutely correct. This little element in

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an actual republic like ours can be condemned and can

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find that it can't get political salience, it can't get

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the support. Now in America, sadly, mainstream media has tried

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to normalize these radical views, and they have a few

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plutocrats are maybe, as Bernie Sanders says, allig arcs, most

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millionaires that fund these radical ideas. You and I have

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talked about this, Yes, super super wealthy. Their homes are

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never going to be the victims of crime, their families

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are never going to be targeted for violence, at least

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not until the society completely collapses. They're protected. Everything they're

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advocating with their donations are going to harm people like

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you and me and your audience. That's what the risk is.

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And so when regular Americans are asked, would you like

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to keep more of your money or would you like

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to send more to Washington, regular Americans say, I'd like

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to keep more of my money and not saying so much.

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When we talk about voter irregularities, we know ghost voters

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love sending more of your money to Washington than keeping it.

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Ghost voters love regulation rather than freedom. Socialists have views

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that only convicts, only illegals, only ghost voters, and a

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small sliver of people with postgraduate degrees that think this

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is brilliant and if it wasn't for the media and

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some billionaires helping them, they wouldn't even have a shot.

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They don't, they won't succeed. But it is sad that

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one party, the Republican Party, will not be challenged and

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be the best Republican party it can be because it

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gets to say, well, you know, we're not communists.

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Yeah, well you know these billionaires that you're talking about.

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It's interesting, Horace, because their support arding the radical left wing.

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But yet when the DNC reports on fundraising, they're very anemic.

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They're not supporting the Democratic National Committee as it sits.

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Right now, we've got to go to quick break. We'll

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pick it up on the other side. More from Horace

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We're back when you're Bill Martinez here with Horace Cooper,

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the legal analyst and author Horas Uh what do you

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make of the fact that the donor money is definitely

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going to the left wing but to I guess if

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you want to say, the Democratic Party, if it's if

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it moderates itself, has potential to be viable. But even

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smart money is not investing in that part of the

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party right now. It's almost like they've surrendered it to

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the left wing right.

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So again I want to remind people the world's oldest

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politically existing, politically continuous existing political party is being hollowed out. Yes,

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pitiful and sad, And these donors and these activists aren't

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even satisfied with this hollowed out husk that is unprincipled

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and unwilling to fight for America and doesn't support our constitution.

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It right still isn't able to get the financials it

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still has to go. These people still have to go

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to third party groups that are even more radical. This

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project feeds on itself and eventually, for instance, there are

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going to be a few Democrats in the United States

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Senate who say, okay, I have tried as hard as

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I could to go along with this, to cooperate with

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the government shut down. No one really explained to me

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why it made sense, but I went along with it.

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I'm not going to kt bar the door for what

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kind of punishment is going to come for a Democrat

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senator who simply just says I never understood this, like Fetterman,

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was making. I now am going to change my vote

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and vote with him. Kat bar the door for what

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kind of crazy insanity? Last pint there ninety percent of

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the time Fetterman votes with his party. They want to

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kick him out because he is only ninety in sane

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got one in sane.

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Well, and he made the statement that he votes country

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over party, which I thought was really refreshing and kind

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of a signal to the rest of the Democratic senators

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and I think the other Democratic leadership to realize that

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this is what America wants. They expect a government to

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be running. They're getting ticked when they're not getting paidchecks,

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they're not getting snapped, and more and more pain is

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being felt. And then you hear the statement from Democratic

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leadership that says, oh, it's about leverage. You know.

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The AFTE, the biggest government employee union, has now demanded

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that they immediately hold a vote to allow for the

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govern to continue to be refulved, to continue to be funded.

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I am hearing my sources are telling me that instead

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of just admitting this was a terrible idea and moving

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forward with reopening government, there are several, maybe a dozen

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Democrats that are open to funding the military, funding the

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air traffic controllers, and funding programs like Wick and Assistant. Well,

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here's the thing. If you do that. I'm not saying don't.

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I'm just saying, if you do that, conservatives like me

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might say, fine, we're good now, we don't have to

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open up anything else. So why don't. It's in their interests,

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That's what I'm saying. Why it never has made sense.

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It's in their interest to get the government up and running.

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And it is.

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Unfathomable how the party that loves government, the party that

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believes that government is the answer to everything, is so

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fixated on stopping President Trump that they would kill government

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to try to harm Trump.

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Yeah, the very thing that supports their party. What that's

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a third of their base or public employees, right, that's right.

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Uh, it's a huge source of their financial support, a

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huge sort source for their foot soldiers, the people that

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move the signs and put them up and do the

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kinds of things. And because it's it's numbers in the millions,

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it's a great vote base exactly.

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I was going to say, don't forget the vote.

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Yeah, So to hold that group underwater until it drowned

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is insane from their perspective.

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Right, well, and I think that for most people, because

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again these are obvious, you know, let's go back to

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the old eighty twenty issues that are out there. Trump

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consistently grabs onto the eighty percent and the Democrats are

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out there in deep water holding on to twenty percent,

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hoping that they can stay afloat long enough for us.

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Like after day two, they sort of revised their plan

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and said, oh, yeah, we didn't realize a staffer put

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that provision in for multiple billions for illegal aliens to

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get healthcare. We're removing that.

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It's still in the plan for the way.

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Yes, that's insane, that is unbelievable. Oh and by the way,

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the Affordable Care Act was their build. Only one House

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Republican supported the bill in its early stages, and then

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he was defeated in a general election. He was targeted

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in a general election and defeated, leaving not one Republican

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in Congress who is a supporter of it. When they

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had control, they had a supermajority. Why didn't they fix

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whatever they claiming this problem is?

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Right? Well, because it was a big life from the

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very beginning. You could keep your same doctor. It wasn't

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going to be money, It wasn't going to be funded

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through taxes. Right that Joe Wilson when Barack Obama in

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the Joint Session or State of the Union made that statement,

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Joe Wilson, you know, just it came out of his mouth.

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He couldn't contain himself saying, well, that's a lie. Is

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They knew exactly that it was in. Anybody that had

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any kind of connection with the truth knew that the

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only way this was going to survive was it had

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to be based on taxes. And of course then John

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Roberts in the Supreme Court, all of a sudden he

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becomes he becomes the defendant. He gets out of his

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seat as the Justice and the Supreme Court Justice and

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goes and argues the case and tells Obama's lawyers, no,

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you mean it's a tax, because there's no way it

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can hold ground without it, right.

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That's yes. So the Affordable Care Act today, in twenty

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twenty five, covers fewer people than it did three years ago,

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and in fact, substantially fewer people than it did when

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it was first created. The truth of the matter is

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it doesn't work, and it has completely distorted the healthcare market,

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the healthcare services market in the entire United States. But again,

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what we're looking at is a present that has been

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working to make the globe safer for America, working to

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make our inner cities safer for America, working to remove

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those elements that.

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Even even a couple of the media admitted contained people

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who came over our border, who had not been vetted,

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who were dangerous, and some of whom even said wait

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and see what.

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They would do. Our president has been working to get

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those people out of our country. What does the left say, Well,

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you're blowing up people who are just fishermen trying to

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mind their own business. Why would you do that, mister president.

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They're always on the wrong side of an eighty twenty

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issue exact, and it seems but that's because there's so

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few of them.

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Right, Yeah, And they insist that, you know, Trump is

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doing all this to legally minded illegal immigrants, which is

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interesting and oxymoron in and otherself. Right, and here it is.

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Pambondi reports that over seventy percent cash mattel as well,

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over seventy percent of those arrested our felons horas.

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Okay, so I got asked this question on Fox News Sunday,

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and I'm gonna explain again my answer. When you go

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to the bank and you're a police officer and you're

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trying to catch bank robbers, and you capture the bank robbers,

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but you notice there's two people with outstanding lawrence, you're

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going to grab them too. Bekay, Oh, well, I'm only

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here for the bank robbers. On law enforcement. If you

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are in this country illegally and you hang out with

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the worst of the worst, don't be surprised when you

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get taken into And that's why seventy percent are these

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worst of the worst. But thirty percent have shown no

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good judgment. In my view, what are you doing hanging

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out with people that rate small children?

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What are you doing right exactly too well. Horace Cooper

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has been our guest, the former constitutional law professor, recognized

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legal commentator, and author. Right here on Bill Martinez Live. Horace,

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thank you for being with us as always, appreciate it,

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Take care, Thank you.

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have you with us, and we've got the author Michael

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Finch his brand new book, A Time to Stand the

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Dire Hour to Defend American Beauty. Michael, welcome, Michelle. Good

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to have you with us now.

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Bill, thank you. I'm very grateful for you having me

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on and very thankful so I'm looking back to it.

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Thank you.

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I'm excited to talk about your book. I mean, because hey,

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we're talking about restoring America's beauty. I mean, what has

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made America great? And it's interesting the timing of your

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book in light of you know, Marxism and socialism, you know,

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seems to be spreading and igniting across the country. And

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it's like, whoa wait a minute here, you know, we're

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really kind of jumping the shark here, and we're ignoring

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some rich history and culture that truly has made America

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great that started two hundred and fifty years ago. So

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it's interesting right now that on the brink of our

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you know, our two hundred and fiftieth year anniversary, that

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our US Constitution and all our values are being challenged

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right now.

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Well, I mean that's what the left is doing. I mean,

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Marxism is certainly on the march in New York City.

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We'll find out soon enough just how much they're embracing

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Marxism to elect a Marxist mayor. But you're right, I mean,

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the left is on the march, and we have to

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be vigilant and fight every day for the greatness of

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this country. The fact is the left doesn't like beauty.

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It hates beauty, and the left has been at war

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with American greatness and our history and our culture for

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well over half a century. And I mean I work

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for the Freedom Center. I worked for David Horowitz for

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over twenty three years, and I learned a lot from David.

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Of course, spent first half his life as a committed

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Marxist and then came to his senses in the second

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half his life. He committed the redressing those sins and

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teaching us about how dangerous the left is. The Left

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wants to destroy our faith, our family, our culture, and

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our history. And we have to fight back because they

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are never going to relent, and you're right, they are

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on the march. They wake up every day with these

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kind of passion to create this new utopiaan heaven on earth.

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And to create a heaven on earth, you have to

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destroy what came before it. And then the self loathing

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of our history and our culture is so destructive. Bill,

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So that's what we need to fight restore the greatness

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of this country.

477
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Well, they want to delude you into thinking they're going

478
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to create a heaven on earth, but when you look

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historically at what they've done more it looks more like

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hell than heaven.

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Well, hundreds of millions of people down hundreds, over one

482
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hundred million people died in the twentieth century chasing those

483
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because of those illusions, right, false illusions. So you're absolutely right.

484
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It only leads to massive death and misery and depression.

485
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I mean, it would destroy this country, It could destroy

486
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the world if we go down that path. But like

487
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I said, over one hundred million people died sacrificed on

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this altar of this utopia. We cannot let and to

489
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think that it can happen here I think would be foolish.

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I mean, thank goodness, we have a majority of the people.

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We have a faithful people. We believe in this country,

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we believe in our liberty and freedom. So we're going

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to fight it. But you know, they've had some successes

494
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quote unquote, and they keep thinking, well, we just didn't

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do it right. Stalin and Lennon didn't do it right,

496
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Mau didn't do it right, Poul Pop didn't do it right. Oh,

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we can do it right here. I mean, is that

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what the voters of New York are thinking, That this

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guy's actually going to create this wonderful utopia or is

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he going to drag New York down? He's going to

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make David Dinkins look like a George Washington exactly.

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Well, and the thing is, here's this young man who' said,

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you know, really no experience he you know, has he

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ever run a business? He's has he signed the uh

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you know, the front of a paycheck. I don't see

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any history and that I mean he you know. The

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thing that galls me. I gotta tell you, Michael, is

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that here this kid comes to America at the age

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of seven. He and his parents, they are protected and

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covered and enjoy the benefits of this country, and they flourish.

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And his way of saying thank you is we want

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to deconstruct what protected me for the last almost thirty

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years of my life.

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Right, yeah, it's it's mind blow elon Omar. You could

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the Congress Congress in Minnesota the same thing and they go,

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why did you come here? I mean, you want to

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destroy what makes this country great, destroy the principles of

518
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our founding. It's really frightening, you know. Look, I mean

519
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we could say, well, you know, woe to be to

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New York. You know that you deserve what you get.

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But the fact is New York is the financial capital

522
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of the country, if not the financial capital of the world.

523
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New York is important. Look, I mean, we may suffer

524
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through this and wait for the next election, but I

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think really tough times are coming for that poor city

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and its citizens.

527
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Well, Michael, you're right. You know, New York, like any

528
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city Minnesota, they're all important. You can't surrender ground. This

529
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is what is upset me about the Republican Party right now.

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Is it that they're not fighting back in New York.

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They've surrendered. They're not, you know, like it or not.

532
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Kurtis Leewa has been. He's the standard bear for the

533
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Republican Party, fighting against a corrupt governor, a young kid

534
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who doesn't know what he's doing, offering all kinds of

535
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free stuff. And I guess he hasn't even seen, you know,

536
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the balance sheet of New York to realize they're out

537
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of money. So where is this free stuff going to

538
00:34:15.880 --> 00:34:16.639
come from?

539
00:34:16.840 --> 00:34:19.760
Well, yeah, you're going to run out of other people's money, right,

540
00:34:19.800 --> 00:34:22.719
I mean, the really dangerous thing. Another thing that David

541
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Horowitz kind of taught us is how seductive the left's

542
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vision is. Right, their ideology is incredibly seductive. We're going

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to get rid of want and hunger and poverty and

544
00:34:33.079 --> 00:34:35.320
racism and sexism. We're going to get rid of all

545
00:34:35.400 --> 00:34:38.199
of that, and everything will be perfect. Everyone will be

546
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equal equally, either dead or living in incredible poverty and misery, misery.

547
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For the top right exactly.

548
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So, you know, but it is, it's very seductive and

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people look, I mean, if we've wanted to be God

550
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since the Garden Adam and Eve, I mean, there's been

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this impulse to create this heaven on earth where we

552
00:34:57.800 --> 00:35:00.880
could replace God and become God. And we're never going

553
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to eradicate that. It's going to be here to the

554
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end of the time. So exactly, Unfortunately, Bill, we're never

555
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gonna be able to wake up and say we want

556
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we defeated the left. We're never we can push back,

557
00:35:10.639 --> 00:35:13.039
but we're never going to defeat them. Ronald Reagan said,

558
00:35:13.039 --> 00:35:15.280
we're gonna have to fight every generation. Well, we're in

559
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that generation right now where we're fighting something very serious

560
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and very dangerous.

561
00:35:19.880 --> 00:35:23.360
Well, it definitely is intensified because of the conditions that

562
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were created, you know, for lots of reasons. You know,

563
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a lot of it. You know, democratic policies, Michael, they've

564
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created this, and so it has made New York unaffordable.

565
00:35:36.719 --> 00:35:40.039
It's caused a lot of pain. And so these young

566
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kids all they know and of course that younger generator,

567
00:35:43.559 --> 00:35:46.880
this younger generation has been coddled. They don't know much

568
00:35:46.920 --> 00:35:50.400
about pain because God forbid, they have a booboo, you know,

569
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because you know, the parents, the helicopter parents that we were,

570
00:35:53.880 --> 00:35:56.840
you know, so protected them that we didn't allow them

571
00:35:56.840 --> 00:36:00.320
to go out there and scrape their kneecaps and and

572
00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:03.480
so here it is, all the conditions are ripe. And

573
00:36:03.519 --> 00:36:06.760
that's what you see historically, when the conditions are ripe,

574
00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:09.920
it gives rise to Marxism and all these other isms

575
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because they're promising relief from the pain.

576
00:36:13.440 --> 00:36:17.760
Right exactly. But you know, the really tragedy is that

577
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the horrible things are going to happen in New York.

578
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I mean the deep policing. I mean, he hates the police, right,

579
00:36:23.320 --> 00:36:25.199
I mean, this is so what's going to happen is

580
00:36:25.199 --> 00:36:28.519
the people that vote for him don't live in those neighborhoods, right,

581
00:36:28.559 --> 00:36:30.760
I mean, they're all upset that Trump calls in the

582
00:36:30.840 --> 00:36:33.320
National Guard to Washington, d C. To kind of police

583
00:36:33.440 --> 00:36:35.679
the people live in those neighborhoods. The polling is like

584
00:36:35.760 --> 00:36:39.320
ninety percent pro Trump, right, So they need it is.

585
00:36:39.400 --> 00:36:41.960
They don't want their kids being shot at walking to school.

586
00:36:42.360 --> 00:36:46.159
So you know, but the people that endorse this, these

587
00:36:46.239 --> 00:36:49.400
Marxists whatever wherever they call themselves, they don't live in

588
00:36:49.400 --> 00:36:51.639
those neighborhoods, so they're not worried about it. They just

589
00:36:51.679 --> 00:36:53.719
see this as some kind of vision and it's going

590
00:36:53.800 --> 00:36:57.280
to eradicate all the horrible things of capitalism and the

591
00:36:57.280 --> 00:37:01.239
American system, and how foolish. But again, how dangerous. I mean,

592
00:37:01.480 --> 00:37:04.920
this really is dangerous. We're going down a really scary path.

593
00:37:05.360 --> 00:37:11.239
When everything triggers you, it becomes it becomes a problem,

594
00:37:11.360 --> 00:37:15.320
you know, and and sadly, and I'm sorry that they

595
00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:18.599
get triggered so easily, whether it's the National Guard restoring

596
00:37:18.639 --> 00:37:21.360
peace and law and order to a community that was

597
00:37:21.440 --> 00:37:24.679
ninety five percent voted against Trump, now they're ninety five

598
00:37:24.719 --> 00:37:27.320
percent saying thank you Trump. My kids, I can take

599
00:37:27.360 --> 00:37:29.800
them to the park, I can my wife and I

600
00:37:29.800 --> 00:37:31.480
can actually go out and have a date at a

601
00:37:31.519 --> 00:37:33.960
restaurant and feel like, hey, we're going to get back

602
00:37:33.960 --> 00:37:36.639
home safely and be with the kids. And Trump was

603
00:37:36.679 --> 00:37:40.360
the difference. It wasn't Mary L. Bowser, it wasn't Chuck Schumer.

604
00:37:40.119 --> 00:37:44.719
Right right, Well, look, Trump's transformed the Republican Party. Frankly though,

605
00:37:44.719 --> 00:37:48.760
he's transformed the entire country, he's transformed the world, if

606
00:37:48.800 --> 00:37:52.599
not the world exactly. And the Demo, the far left,

607
00:37:52.599 --> 00:37:56.559
the radical left, is represented by the potential new mayor

608
00:37:56.599 --> 00:37:59.039
of New York, Ma'm Donnie. They have taken over the

609
00:37:59.079 --> 00:38:02.440
Democrat Party. But what Trump has done is created this

610
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new Republican Party, which is now the middle American working

611
00:38:06.480 --> 00:38:09.400
Man's are working Americans Party, right, I mean, that's the

612
00:38:09.440 --> 00:38:13.760
party of the working class. Hispanic Americans, African American Americans

613
00:38:13.800 --> 00:38:17.360
are coming over in droves supporting Trump. I mean, the

614
00:38:17.440 --> 00:38:21.280
votes increased tremendously last last year, and it's going to tremendous.

615
00:38:21.320 --> 00:38:23.519
I mean, I don't know who is going to be

616
00:38:23.599 --> 00:38:26.039
left in the Democrat Party to vote. So, I mean,

617
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you know, I guess there's some silver lining in this

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that the common sense and the basic goodness and faithfulness

619
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of the American people understand this, and they are coming

620
00:38:36.360 --> 00:38:39.199
to Donald Trump. And let's just hope that what comes

621
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after Trump, the American first policies that take care of

622
00:38:42.519 --> 00:38:46.320
the workingman continue post Trump. That's really going to be

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critical to kind of cement his legacy. But the Democrat

624
00:38:50.280 --> 00:38:53.400
party is just abandoned all common sense. And I was

625
00:38:53.480 --> 00:38:56.400
never a Democrat, but you know we had some common

626
00:38:56.440 --> 00:38:59.800
sense Democrats back in the day. Some and now I

627
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you know, scratch your head to find one exactly.

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We're off to break. Stay with us. We've got more

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from Michael right after this. Stay with us.

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American beauty. And I like that you mentioned beauty because

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00:43:26.880 --> 00:43:32.119
beauty is a natural, intrinsic thing that's in all our DNA.

712
00:43:32.800 --> 00:43:37.400
And you can tell when somebody is is liberated and

713
00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:40.400
they have a higher level of consciousness, and that is

714
00:43:40.440 --> 00:43:43.440
that they can they can see beauty for what it is.

715
00:43:43.760 --> 00:43:47.360
In fact, it was interesting here recently the left went

716
00:43:47.480 --> 00:43:53.519
absolutely bonzos. When was it Sweeney came out with that

717
00:43:54.199 --> 00:43:56.920
with the jeen Zad you know, she has good genes.

718
00:43:57.320 --> 00:44:00.760
They went, they went, they could not see beauty, and

719
00:44:01.079 --> 00:44:03.880
that's quite telling. So it's interesting that you use American

720
00:44:03.880 --> 00:44:07.800
beauty because you know, people that are fair minded and liberated,

721
00:44:08.199 --> 00:44:12.559
they see beauty in everything. They acknowledge it. It's easy

722
00:44:12.599 --> 00:44:15.519
for them to do it. The left, if they acknowledge it,

723
00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:18.320
it's like they've surrendered their brains or something, or their

724
00:44:18.360 --> 00:44:20.719
political stance. It's hysterical.

725
00:44:21.360 --> 00:44:23.360
Yeah, I mean, the left hates beauty. I mean that's

726
00:44:23.400 --> 00:44:26.880
been written, and it's interesting. You know, Theodor Dostoevsky, the

727
00:44:26.920 --> 00:44:30.760
famous Russian novelist, said that beauty will save the world.

728
00:44:30.920 --> 00:44:33.639
Now he didn't really explain exactly, but I'll take that.

729
00:44:33.719 --> 00:44:35.440
I'll take him for his word for it, just on

730
00:44:35.800 --> 00:44:39.360
that basis. Look, beauty and art, beauty and culture, beauty

731
00:44:39.360 --> 00:44:43.360
and everything is really our kind of effort to try

732
00:44:43.400 --> 00:44:46.000
to kind of reach the heavens and reach God. We

733
00:44:46.039 --> 00:44:47.199
can that we're going to fail or.

734
00:44:47.239 --> 00:44:48.960
Gold you said that, We're exactly right.

735
00:44:49.039 --> 00:44:51.400
But that's the effort, and that's why the left hates it.

736
00:44:51.480 --> 00:44:54.719
They hate I mean architecture, art. I mean to put

737
00:44:54.800 --> 00:44:57.280
the across in a vat of urine and say this

738
00:44:57.360 --> 00:45:00.079
is art. I mean, sorry, art is not in the

739
00:44:59.800 --> 00:45:01.840
be eye of the Beauty is not in the eye

740
00:45:01.840 --> 00:45:03.840
of the beholder. I mean there's beautiful art and then

741
00:45:03.880 --> 00:45:06.480
there's really ugly art. That's that's a fact. Right. So

742
00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:10.440
you know when Bach wrote music, not an American but

743
00:45:10.519 --> 00:45:13.039
still one of the great, obviously the great musician of

744
00:45:13.079 --> 00:45:15.960
all time. Every single piece he wrote, he said he

745
00:45:16.360 --> 00:45:19.920
did an honor and worship of God. It was for God.

746
00:45:19.960 --> 00:45:23.000
He was trying to reach something in the great paintings,

747
00:45:23.039 --> 00:45:26.800
the great literature, the great everything, anything, anything that represents

748
00:45:26.800 --> 00:45:29.719
our culture is a way to reach the heavens. And

749
00:45:30.039 --> 00:45:33.599
it's I mean, look, I'm a Christian. You can be Jewish,

750
00:45:33.599 --> 00:45:36.719
but the Greeks and Romans were neither Jewish nor Christian,

751
00:45:36.800 --> 00:45:40.519
right the original classical Greek and classical Roman civilizations. But

752
00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:43.440
when they built those incredible buildings that are still many,

753
00:45:43.480 --> 00:45:46.199
of course still exist in some form today, they were

754
00:45:46.239 --> 00:45:49.880
trying to reach to something higher, even they understood. It

755
00:45:49.920 --> 00:45:51.599
may not have been the Christian God, but they were

756
00:45:51.639 --> 00:45:55.000
reaching to their God. And that's true all over the world.

757
00:45:55.119 --> 00:45:57.599
So this idea, once you take God out of the equation,

758
00:45:58.880 --> 00:46:01.760
then beauty doesn't to me either. There is no beauty.

759
00:46:01.800 --> 00:46:04.559
And when you lose beauty, you've lost You've lost everything.

760
00:46:05.000 --> 00:46:08.519
And America has such an incredibly rich and beautiful culture,

761
00:46:08.840 --> 00:46:12.719
which unfortunately, again the left has attacked education. America is

762
00:46:12.719 --> 00:46:18.519
a stained, sexist, racist, and perialistic environmental destroying it's you know,

763
00:46:18.559 --> 00:46:21.280
we're supposed to be we self loathed over our own

764
00:46:21.400 --> 00:46:25.199
history in our schools, which is really tragic, and they

765
00:46:25.199 --> 00:46:27.440
attack then the culture is not even taught. We have

766
00:46:27.519 --> 00:46:30.920
this Howard Zen version of American history that is running

767
00:46:31.039 --> 00:46:33.559
rampant in our public schools, and we have to fight

768
00:46:33.639 --> 00:46:37.119
that and restore the greatness of our history and culture.

769
00:46:37.599 --> 00:46:40.760
Well, you consider the beautiful aspects of our history, Michael,

770
00:46:41.280 --> 00:46:44.800
and I would dare to say that that was probably

771
00:46:44.920 --> 00:46:46.719
at times when we were closer to God.

772
00:46:47.760 --> 00:46:50.760
Oh, there's no question. And the only thing the more

773
00:46:50.760 --> 00:46:52.679
I reflect on the spill, and I don't I don't know,

774
00:46:52.760 --> 00:46:55.159
you know, but I have a feeling that we're we

775
00:46:55.239 --> 00:46:58.239
could be approaching another great awakening. I just I think

776
00:46:58.280 --> 00:47:01.679
there's a rise Americans thirsting. You know, when you put

777
00:47:01.719 --> 00:47:03.920
them down, you put down our history, you put down,

778
00:47:04.199 --> 00:47:06.679
you know, our faith, then there's going to be a

779
00:47:06.760 --> 00:47:09.719
kind of a blowback to that. And the blowback is, no,

780
00:47:09.800 --> 00:47:11.880
We're proud of our country, we're proud of our history,

781
00:47:11.960 --> 00:47:14.400
and we're proud of our faith, and we are going

782
00:47:14.440 --> 00:47:17.480
to restore that. So I sense, you know, you saw

783
00:47:17.559 --> 00:47:19.239
with the work that Charlie.

784
00:47:18.920 --> 00:47:20.800
Kirk did exactly was going to say.

785
00:47:20.679 --> 00:47:23.679
Tragically taken away from us, but you know, he was

786
00:47:23.760 --> 00:47:26.880
reaching students, young people, and a lot of it was

787
00:47:26.960 --> 00:47:29.480
really a lot of his conservative principles and you know,

788
00:47:29.840 --> 00:47:33.880
capitalism and so forth. Much of it, increasingly so, especially

789
00:47:33.880 --> 00:47:36.920
towards the end, was about faith, his Christian faith, and

790
00:47:37.159 --> 00:47:39.920
people are thirsting for this. And I think there's a

791
00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:43.400
kind of an overwhelming response to that. Again, whether or

792
00:47:43.400 --> 00:47:45.760
not they're being awakening next week, next year, in the

793
00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:48.440
next ten years, I don't know. We don't know, but

794
00:47:48.519 --> 00:47:51.719
you can see the signs that Americans are thirsting or

795
00:47:51.960 --> 00:47:54.079
that kind of to be closer to God, for the

796
00:47:54.079 --> 00:47:55.679
country to be closer, no question.

797
00:47:56.239 --> 00:47:59.440
Well that's where the answers line, Michael. They don't lie

798
00:47:59.480 --> 00:48:02.679
on this plant. The answers are in heaven, and that's

799
00:48:02.719 --> 00:48:05.559
why we need to seek God. Charles Finney says, a

800
00:48:05.639 --> 00:48:08.639
revival happens when it's most needed. And I think what

801
00:48:08.719 --> 00:48:12.679
you're seeing and discerning, I'm seeing the same thing that

802
00:48:13.199 --> 00:48:19.119
America is in need of another awakening. And I've seen

803
00:48:20.000 --> 00:48:23.920
what I call bonfires, a revival being ignited, you know,

804
00:48:24.079 --> 00:48:26.840
around the country, and it's just waiting for some sort

805
00:48:26.880 --> 00:48:30.599
of ignition that you know, kind of couples them in

806
00:48:30.639 --> 00:48:33.320
such a way where it really really takes off. Now

807
00:48:33.320 --> 00:48:35.639
when we say that too, Michael, it's not like it's

808
00:48:35.679 --> 00:48:37.400
going to get you know, you're going to be one

809
00:48:37.440 --> 00:48:40.599
thousand percent that's never going to happen. You know, you're

810
00:48:40.639 --> 00:48:43.679
always going to have still as the Bible talks about

811
00:48:43.679 --> 00:48:45.880
in terms of wheats and terars, you're gonna have the

812
00:48:45.920 --> 00:48:49.800
wheat growing alongside the terrors. And so just like in

813
00:48:49.880 --> 00:48:52.360
any other revival back in the seventies, you know, we

814
00:48:52.440 --> 00:48:55.719
saw what happened there. You had, you know, the Jesus movement,

815
00:48:55.840 --> 00:48:58.159
and then you had all the hippies and Woodstock and

816
00:48:58.239 --> 00:49:00.639
all the wacky crazy stuff going on. It was a

817
00:49:00.679 --> 00:49:03.800
parallel universe that was happening, and the people that sought

818
00:49:03.920 --> 00:49:08.079
Jesus and turned to Jesus different, different outcome than those

819
00:49:08.119 --> 00:49:13.199
that you know, aligned with everything that happened in Woodstock

820
00:49:13.239 --> 00:49:13.760
for example.

821
00:49:14.400 --> 00:49:16.559
Well, I think, for you know, a great awakening, it

822
00:49:16.559 --> 00:49:18.519
doesn't even have to be the majority. It can be

823
00:49:19.639 --> 00:49:22.480
a minority that has moved in that way. I mean, look,

824
00:49:22.480 --> 00:49:27.960
the Declaration of Independence, the founding of this country, the

825
00:49:28.000 --> 00:49:30.280
revolution was not we didn't have a majority. There was

826
00:49:30.320 --> 00:49:33.039
not a gone of the colonists that many of them

827
00:49:33.079 --> 00:49:36.320
were either indifferent or they were loyal to the crown exact.

828
00:49:36.400 --> 00:49:39.639
But we moved the world because we had a core,

829
00:49:40.039 --> 00:49:43.320
a minority corps that was faithful and dedicated to these

830
00:49:43.360 --> 00:49:48.360
principles of liberty. So I'll take an awakening movement that

831
00:49:48.840 --> 00:49:52.519
reconnects Us with Jesus that can move this country and

832
00:49:52.559 --> 00:49:55.559
save this country again. It doesn't have to be seventy percent.

833
00:49:55.719 --> 00:49:59.880
So we're moving in that direction possibly, But you kind

834
00:49:59.880 --> 00:50:02.000
of like seeing the signs, You like seeing that there's

835
00:50:02.039 --> 00:50:05.079
going to be this kind of thirst to come together

836
00:50:05.119 --> 00:50:05.760
with God again.

837
00:50:06.320 --> 00:50:09.159
And look, look what liberty has provided for us, Michael,

838
00:50:09.239 --> 00:50:11.920
historically in the two hundred and fifty years. I mean,

839
00:50:12.000 --> 00:50:16.079
how this country has flourished because of that, because of freedom,

840
00:50:16.519 --> 00:50:19.440
and freedom is God given, it's not given to us

841
00:50:19.480 --> 00:50:22.519
by a government. And this is why America is such

842
00:50:22.559 --> 00:50:28.159
a magnet because people instinctively are drawn where liberty resides.

843
00:50:28.599 --> 00:50:31.880
And yes, you know there's been some impingement on liberty.

844
00:50:32.239 --> 00:50:34.920
But again, as you say, we need to re embrace

845
00:50:35.159 --> 00:50:38.280
and renew our thinking in such a way to where

846
00:50:38.400 --> 00:50:41.239
we can be like our founding fathers to say, you know,

847
00:50:41.440 --> 00:50:43.039
give me liberty or give me death.

848
00:50:43.599 --> 00:50:46.880
Well, absolutely, and liberty is and freedom will not exist

849
00:50:46.920 --> 00:50:53.159
without virtue. So you know, a virtuous people citizenship, citizenry

850
00:50:53.280 --> 00:50:55.760
is really critical otherwise you know that we're going to

851
00:50:55.840 --> 00:50:58.039
lose the liberty. So the two go hand in hand,

852
00:50:58.079 --> 00:51:02.119
they always have. America was founded by Christians, you know,

853
00:51:02.159 --> 00:51:05.760
along the Judeo Christian ethic. Okay, that is indisputable. Again,

854
00:51:05.840 --> 00:51:08.719
the left hates that as well. So we need that,

855
00:51:08.760 --> 00:51:12.360
we need the virtue and order, virtuous citizens in order

856
00:51:12.400 --> 00:51:14.639
to kind of hold on to this liberty because again

857
00:51:14.639 --> 00:51:16.920
we're in a battle every day and there are many

858
00:51:17.079 --> 00:51:19.480
that are attacked. It's a minority, but it's a very

859
00:51:19.519 --> 00:51:22.920
strong minority, and they're driven. This is their religion. It's

860
00:51:22.920 --> 00:51:25.440
another thing David taught us that it's not like they

861
00:51:25.480 --> 00:51:27.840
can call themselves atheists or they don't believe. They have

862
00:51:27.920 --> 00:51:31.119
a religion, and that religion is this ideology to create

863
00:51:31.159 --> 00:51:33.639
this heaven on earth. And if you're driven by that,

864
00:51:33.719 --> 00:51:36.920
then you're stop and anything that stands in your way

865
00:51:37.199 --> 00:51:39.119
and that build that you and me and millions of

866
00:51:39.159 --> 00:51:41.199
others are going to have to be pushed out of

867
00:51:41.199 --> 00:51:42.760
the way. Either that they're going to want to re

868
00:51:42.920 --> 00:51:45.239
educate us or push us out of the way. And

869
00:51:45.280 --> 00:51:47.719
that's how you get the millions of dead. So that's

870
00:51:47.719 --> 00:51:50.599
how serious this is. And look, we're you know, we

871
00:51:50.679 --> 00:51:53.119
still have very strong country. We have a leader and

872
00:51:53.199 --> 00:51:56.039
President Trump who believes very strongly in all the things

873
00:51:56.039 --> 00:51:59.119
that we're talking about. So look, we're in a good position.

874
00:51:59.159 --> 00:52:01.639
We're in a strong position, but there are a lot

875
00:52:01.639 --> 00:52:04.079
of danger signs. And if we slip, if we if

876
00:52:04.119 --> 00:52:07.400
we let down our guard again, it won't take a generation.

877
00:52:07.559 --> 00:52:08.400
We'll lose all of this.

878
00:52:08.880 --> 00:52:12.239
Yeah. What certifies our position all the more, I'm convinced, Michael,

879
00:52:12.840 --> 00:52:17.400
is that we hold to the truth, okay, and truth

880
00:52:17.440 --> 00:52:20.760
comes from God and and and that's that's what we're

881
00:52:20.800 --> 00:52:24.480
anchored in. Uh, And that's what's going to sustain us.

882
00:52:24.719 --> 00:52:26.840
I mean it's interesting right now when you look at

883
00:52:27.519 --> 00:52:31.719
the near assassination of Donald Trump, you can talk about

884
00:52:31.760 --> 00:52:36.880
the assassination of Charlie Kirk, talk about the disassemblage of

885
00:52:37.199 --> 00:52:40.119
the mainstream media. I mean, it's a shell of itself

886
00:52:40.199 --> 00:52:46.840
right now, podcasters, you know, exploding. You know, I still

887
00:52:46.880 --> 00:52:50.599
maintain Elon Musk is my hero for nothing else, because

888
00:52:50.880 --> 00:52:54.840
he opened up the gates of our first Amendment too,

889
00:52:54.960 --> 00:53:00.679
first speak, in purchasing, in purchasing Twitter, I mean, really

890
00:53:00.840 --> 00:53:04.079
open that gate again. And we're grateful, you know. So

891
00:53:04.159 --> 00:53:08.159
when you look at the alignment of these events where

892
00:53:08.159 --> 00:53:11.840
we are right now, if they didn't happen, we'd really

893
00:53:11.880 --> 00:53:12.480
be in trouble.

894
00:53:12.760 --> 00:53:16.119
Well yeah, I mean they took over quote unquote mainstream

895
00:53:16.159 --> 00:53:18.800
media but at this point, who cares. Nobody's watching, nobody's

896
00:53:18.840 --> 00:53:22.320
listening to mainstream media. The explosion of what you're doing, Bill,

897
00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:26.119
the podcasters, talk radio, on and on the internet. And

898
00:53:26.400 --> 00:53:28.920
you're right, there are great champions of free speech. I

899
00:53:28.920 --> 00:53:31.400
mean some of them, even coming out of Silicon Valleys.

900
00:53:31.440 --> 00:53:34.159
Even that the movement that there's this kind of slow

901
00:53:34.280 --> 00:53:38.599
change in Silicon Valley and the tech world that I'm

902
00:53:38.639 --> 00:53:41.199
not saying they're embracing the First Amendment, but there's movement there.

903
00:53:41.239 --> 00:53:43.679
And I want to just you mentioned something about truth,

904
00:53:43.719 --> 00:53:47.000
which is so important. That's why I stay optimistic, is

905
00:53:47.039 --> 00:53:49.440
because we have truth on our side. And I'll bring

906
00:53:49.519 --> 00:53:52.119
up another Russian writer Souls in each and said, live

907
00:53:52.280 --> 00:53:55.719
not by lies. Well, the Left lives by a lie.

908
00:53:55.840 --> 00:53:57.840
It is a lie. The idea that they can create

909
00:53:57.840 --> 00:54:00.159
this heaven on earth that will make everything perfect and

910
00:54:00.239 --> 00:54:03.400
wonderful is a lie. They know it's a lie, so

911
00:54:03.440 --> 00:54:06.400
they're in pursuit of a lie. We cannot live by that.

912
00:54:06.519 --> 00:54:08.599
We can live by the truth. We have truth and

913
00:54:08.679 --> 00:54:12.079
God on our side. So that's again that if you

914
00:54:12.239 --> 00:54:16.199
want some reassurance that all is not lost, we need

915
00:54:16.199 --> 00:54:17.960
to hold on to That doesn't mean we don't have

916
00:54:18.000 --> 00:54:20.159
to fight, but we do have truth on our side.

917
00:54:20.760 --> 00:54:24.199
Amen his book, time to stand the dire hour, and

918
00:54:24.239 --> 00:54:29.199
it is a dire hour to defend American beauty. Michael,

919
00:54:29.239 --> 00:54:31.360
this is a blessing, you know what you have given

920
00:54:31.400 --> 00:54:34.400
to us. And thank you for your efforts to put

921
00:54:34.440 --> 00:54:38.079
this out there, to you know, plant a flag, you know,

922
00:54:38.320 --> 00:54:42.880
on truth and liberty for the sake of all Americans.

923
00:54:43.079 --> 00:54:45.559
And then what we're realizing it's more than America. I mean,

924
00:54:45.679 --> 00:54:50.440
our consequence and our impact universally extends. I mean, and

925
00:54:50.480 --> 00:54:53.360
this is why I believe that God has blessed us

926
00:54:53.360 --> 00:54:55.239
in the manner in which he has.

927
00:54:55.079 --> 00:54:57.760
Yeah, the last best hope. I really believe that. So

928
00:54:57.960 --> 00:55:00.519
we lose America and I think liberty is alw So

929
00:55:00.599 --> 00:55:05.480
we have to keep this experiment going. The exceptional aspirational

930
00:55:05.519 --> 00:55:08.960
culture in our history has to be restored. It's make

931
00:55:09.000 --> 00:55:13.000
America great in every aspect. So, you know, God bless

932
00:55:13.000 --> 00:55:15.119
everything that you were doing. Bill. I mean, we you know,

933
00:55:15.159 --> 00:55:18.360
we're in a battle and we're going to win this battle.

934
00:55:18.760 --> 00:55:20.480
You got it. Michael Finch, thank you, Thank you so

935
00:55:20.559 --> 00:55:21.280
much for being with us.

936
00:55:21.280 --> 00:55:23.320
Take care and we will talk soon. Thank you.

937
00:55:24.760 --> 00:55:27.800
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Getting America back on track.

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Bill Martinez, Live.

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Well, good morning, and welcome, Good to have you whther.

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It's Bill Martinez here along with doctor Richard Bartlett the

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emergency room.

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Doc.

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Hey, doc, how are we doing this morning?

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It's a good day to be in America.

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It is, isn't it. I'm telling you you know, although

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I'll tell you people in New York their knees are

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knocking just a little bit because they're seeing what's at risk.

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Maybe some are waking up and realizing that there's a

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lot more at risk than they think.

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Yeah, you know, local leadership does have a national impact,

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but you know it's local politics that people need to

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be involved in especially, and so support your local leaders

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that are are thinking correctly and have common sense and

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have the people's best interests at heart. And so that's

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why Florida and Texas really stand out in my opinion.

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Yeah, exactly. Well, when you say local politics, I want

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people to understand that sometimes, you know, you might look

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at some of these things that are going on, whether

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it's New York or in Minnesota, and they think it's Locolco,

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not local.

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It is. It is?

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It is local, isn't it?

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But I know that's my medical opinion. Bill, that's my

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medical opinion.

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Exactly. Well, what did you make of this? According to

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Rasmussen last week, many suspect that hospital treatment contributed to

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COVID nineteen deaths. I mean over fifty percent.

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Doctor b absolutely no doubt about it. Hospital treatment. What

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was the hospital treatment? It was withholding your family members

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from you when you're on death's door, when you are

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fighting for your life, not having your best patient advocates

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allowed to be in the hospital, even isolating people. We

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know that people do better when they have loved ones

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with them when they're fighting for their life in the hospital.

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That's common sense, that's been proven, and yet that was

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one of the things that was done.

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Also, they withheld life saving treatments.

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Many people were advocating for budesinie and inhaled steroid, which

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was proven to be effective by Oxford University in randomized

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controlled trials called the Stoic Trial, the Principal Trial, the

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Australia and Brazil. This was not a junior college making

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these claims. This was not an individual doctor. This was

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Oxford University, the oldest university in the English speaking world.

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This treatment was withheld from patients dying of COVID. That's unconscionable.

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And when I talked to doctor Ben Carson, he asked

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me how many people died doctor that should not have

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died during COVID. I said, at least ninety percent. According

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to the studies, the evidence, the scientific evidence, the science

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was settled that this actually was an effective treatment strategy.

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RFK Junior recently in an interview I think it was

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two days ago with Megan Kelly, doubled down on this fact.

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He explained this as the Secretary of Health and Human Services,

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he has all the evidence. Now, he's sitting at the

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desk where the evidence is. And he said, yes, ivermactin,

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budesinied hydroxychloroquin had to be suppressed because of a in

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the FDA saying you can't give emergency use authorization for

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human experimentation products like the COVID shots, like the rim

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di severe if you already have an effective treatment.

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So they had to suppress it.

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And he says he and he says, there's evidence that

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they did sensor and suppress life saving treatments.

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How is that not criminal?

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Doc? It is criminal. Now, whether criminals are held accountable,

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that's a whole other thing.

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I'm not a judge, I'm not a lawyer, I'm a doctor,

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but I can tell you it is criminal. We had

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after World War Two, the common sense of humanity was

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that we will not allow human experimentation without informed consent.

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And that was the Nurremberg Code. After the Nuremberg trials

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where they hung they hung the doctors that did human

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experimentation on people against their will. They hung the media

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for wrongly promoting misinform, disinformation and censoring the truth.

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So there were media people that were also hung.

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And then they had the Nuremberg Code that had ten points,

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but they all were about common sense things that you

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don't do human experimentation without the consent.

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Of the human exactly.

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And so when you have emergency use authorization, that is

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by definition giving permission for human experimentation. But the people

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were not told informed consent. They weren't told that there

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were treatment options that were that were effective. And actually

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that was suppressed by all the actors, all the bad

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characters that were in leadership at the time.

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You know, you talk about you know, the media even

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you know, facing the consequences after Nuremberg. You know, if

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you looked at what happened during COVID. In this modern era,

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you would say media, social media influencers, entertainers, actors that

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all got on television and shaming people into taking the

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jab right.

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Yeah, including Arnold Schwarzenegger saying screw your freedom to people

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when they wanted bodily autonomy. They've actually used their brain, Arnold.

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And so I don't care what color or.

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Political party Arnold Schwarzenegger says he's in. When he's against

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people's individual freedoms, constitutional rights, he's on the wrong side

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of things. And so I'll tell that to his face.

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He when he's telling people screw your freedom about their

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patient rights, their constitutional rights, their basic rights.

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That are God their God given rights.

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Yeah, and maybe Arnold, you know, I don't know where

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all stands on God right now, but I can see

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where he stood on God in the past.

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You can tell people by their fruit.

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And so bottom line is we need to watch out

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for our neighbors, not be telling them screw your freedom.

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That doesn't sound like a government leader that I'd like.

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Apparently he doesn't know the American way still.

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Right well, And the thing is the big takeaway for

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all the American people is that freedom is our highest

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calling and gift that God has given us doc and

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if we surrender that, I mean we're going to follow

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suit like other nations and empires before us, and we're

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going to be extinct.

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You don't have to you don't have to give up

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your freedom. Tyrants will take your freedom. And so you

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have to resist tyranny for you and your children, and

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your and your neighbors. And you got to fight against tyranny.

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Tyranny is always wrong. Freedom is always right. And you know,

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God gives us a free will. We get the choice

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to do right or wrong, to make different choices in life.

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And boy, life is a series of decisions. But Bill,

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think about this. Think about how many Americans died during

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World War Two? How many movies have been made about

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World War Two? Four hundred and forty million Americans died.

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We had one point two million Americans died during COVID

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in the last four years, the same timeframe, a four

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year period.

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Nobody's talking about the fact that four times as many

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Americans died.

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You said million. I think you meant four hundred thousand.

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Right, four hundred and forty thousand Americans died during World

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War Two.

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Thank you for correcting that.

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And so more Americans died during the last four years

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during COVID one point two million than World War One,

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World War two, Vietnam War, Korean War combined.

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And so this is not just a passing fad.

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There is a trail of death and destruction and families,

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lives destroyed, families, hopes and dreams destroyed.

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When you take out the parents.

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I know of many orphans that lost mother and father

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during COVID. This was a bio weapon created in alive.

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Exactly there. Let's pick it up on the other side.

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We got to go to a quick break. We got

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more from doctor Bartlet after this stay with US America.

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Welcome back, Bill Martinez here with doctor Richard Bartlett, the

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emergency room medical director. Uh, doctor b As you were saying,

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so many people needlessly died, but it's it's critical for

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our freedom, it's cute critical for our future that consequences

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be dulled out and be realized. Otherwise this is going

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to reproduce itself. And you you've been reporting this as

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John Fleetwood has been reporting on this as well, that

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you know we got bird flu just around the corner.

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Yes, we have.

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Australia doubled down and invested a million dollars in preparing

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for a future bird flu pandemic a year ago.

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But last week Saudi Arabia.

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Has made a huge exinential obligation for preparing for bird

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flu with a company that's going to make an experimental

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bird flu vaccine in preparation for a bird flu pandemic.

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And so we have the nations of the world.

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There's about two hundred nations on this planet Earth, and

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multiple large economies have invested in a future bird flu pandemic.

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What do they know that we don't know?

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Well, the general public's not being told that there are

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bird flu strains that are deadly, that are more deadly

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than the regular flu. They're being jacked up in a

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lab and John Fleetwood dot com jowinfleetwood dot com has

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two minute articles with the hyperlinks to the studies proving

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that there are deadly bird flu strains made in labs

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in the United States and China.

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In South Korea, all over the world.

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And so we've talked about how to prepare for this

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for you and your family, for your community, and so

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some of those basic things are we know that bird

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flu is an influenza a flu a strain, but it's

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but there's a strain that's been messed with juiced up

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in the lab according to my friend doctor Rand paul

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In that term juiced up. And so that's gain of function,

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that's bioweapon creation.

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And so you.

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Can use zoefluza a flu medicine, budesinied, nebulizer treatments, budestinied

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buy online without a prescription, and you can start killing

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viruses in the air in your house. You have to

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stay out of the room. You can read the instructions

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and use it correctly. But there are things that can

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be done. And this is the time to prepare before

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there's a disaster.

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Yeah, because Heaven knows that these perpetrators are preparing, right.

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They've got the you know, they've got the problem, and

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they've got the solution all packaged together also conveniently and

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out the other incomes all kinds of profits for them

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at the sense of our health.

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Well, thirty six million is thirty six billion dollars with

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a bee is what viser netted are made in twenty

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twenty two alone, when their vaccine came out, when their

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quote vaccine came out, their COVID shot. And so that's

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the kind of money we're talking about, tens of billions

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of dollars a year for these corporations that are not

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loyal to the American people. In my opinion, they're international

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corporations that are all about profit, and in this situation,

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they're profiting off of death and pandemics and destruction and

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having the solution that they've created to a problem that's

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been man made.

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Yeah, you know, you bring up an interesting point here,

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doctor ban I'm not sure the audience caught it, so

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I want to, you know, really hone in on it.

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And that is but right now, there's a lot of

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anti sentiment, let's put it that way, antithical sentiment towards

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you know, capitalism and the oligarchs and you know these

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you know, pharmaceutical just as one category and all the

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money that they're making. And you reminded us that these

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are globalists, These are people that are not beholden to

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the US Constitution. They're beholden to their own pocketbook and

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their own greed, and so the Constitution be damned. And unfortunately,

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because we're attached to them, because we count on them

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to provide certain things to us, and then we leave

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ourselves vulnerable when it comes to medical advice and medical

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01:14:44.079 --> 01:14:50.399
consult it really turns capitalism on its head, and it

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makes capitalism look at its worst. I'm not sure if

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I'm saying that correctly, but I think you're touching a

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nerve here on this.

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Yeah. Pfiser, their research and.

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Development facility in Mumbai, India happens to be in the

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neighborhood of where delta variant.

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COVID came from. Huh.

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Oh.

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They also have a research and development facility that's been

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in South Africa for over seventy years. Huge facility in

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the neighborhood of where the almachron variant came from of COVID.

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Huh what an interesting coincidence.

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Oh, these companies are international. They're not beholden or loyal

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to the United States in any former fashion. You think

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about the CEO of Pfiser, who was promoted and touted

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as a doctor giving advice to American patients and families

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and citizens during COVID. Oh, he's not a medical doctor.

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He got a degree as a veterinarian in Greece. Wait

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01:16:00.359 --> 01:16:02.920
a minute, he doesn't have a license in the United States.

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Wait a minute.

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He's not a doctor for patients for humans. He's just

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got a degree to take care of animals from Greece.

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I don't know that that training is even on the

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same level of veterinarians in the United States. And so

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that's what we're dealing with. There's no evidence of loyalty

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to the American people.

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Well clearly, as you said before, you'll know them by

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01:16:25.640 --> 01:16:28.840
their fruit. Look at what they're producing, and it's obvious.

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And I think that critical thinking and common sense is

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required here because of what we've gone through with COVID,

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and we do not want, you know, a reproduction of

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what happened, you know, four or five years ago.

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You should look the viewers should look up the expos

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that was done by CNN, and I think it was

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around two thousand and seven, two thousand.

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And eight where they talked about Phizer.

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And the crimes that they were busted on and UH

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and how they keep being too big to fail according

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to our government.

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Or big too or too big to jail even you know, right.

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Yeah, yeah.

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So I don't think that that's a good policy, that

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a criminal organization is too big to jail or too

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01:17:22.000 --> 01:17:25.479
big to fail just because they have a large cash flow.

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Give me a break. That doesn't I don't understand that.

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And look at what has happened after they got away

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with that fifteen years ago. Now, we went through COVID

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and and so it was Pizer that we.

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That we gave the Foyer.

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We gave the Foyer request to the FDA for the

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Pfizer shot information during COVID, and the FDA told us,

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here's the influence that the Pizer has the they have

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an influence, They had an undue influence over the FDA

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during COVID. And the FDA says, well, we can't release

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that information for seventy five years to the American people

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or American doctors about the COVID shots. So about the

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risk and the benefits and the ingredients of the COVID shots.

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We can't tell the doctors that for seventy five years.

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That doesn't make sense. And so a federal judge, Mark

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01:18:18.960 --> 01:18:23.319
Pittman at the Fort Worth Federal Court said to the FDA,

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you have to release this information from about the Phiser

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COVID shots, And the FDA pushed back and says, we

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can't release that for seventy five years. Judge, we don't

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have enough staff at the FDA. And the judge says, no,

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you're going to start releasing it next month. And we

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got a list of over twelve hundred diseases that Pfizer

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01:18:44.000 --> 01:18:48.600
said are associated with their product. Over twelve hundred diseases

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that Pfizer said their shot is associated with.

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We got that information from the FDA.

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That's the Phiser that fifteen years ago our government said

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was too big to fail.

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Yeah, well, and can you imagine seventy five years of

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01:19:06.279 --> 01:19:08.720
that trajectory what it would look like.

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Well, their products are still in the market. So I

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01:19:12.000 --> 01:19:16.479
can't imagine that we're having a spike in cancer. We're

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01:19:16.520 --> 01:19:20.520
having a spike in all cause mortality, people dying of

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01:19:20.560 --> 01:19:22.760
all kinds of problems. But that makes sense if you

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01:19:22.800 --> 01:19:26.000
look at the list that they created. They had autoimmune disorders,

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neurologic disorders, they had cardiac disorders, they.

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Had over twelve hundred diseases.

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So when you talk about all cause mortality going up. Well, yeah,

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when you have a list of over twelve hundred diseases

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that could kill you, including different types of strokes, different

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types of heart conditions, and heart attacks, we're seeing all

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of that happen in real time. I'm an er, doctor,

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I'm telling you this is happening exactly.

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Well.

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We got to leave it there for now and until

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next week when we connect again. Doctor Richard barbe Let

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the er right here live on Bill Martinez, Thank you, Doc,

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take care. I have a good one.

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Well, good morning, welcome back Bill Martinez here. Good to

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have you with us. We've got Chris Davis going to

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join us in just a moment to talk about the

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misconceptions they're keeping veterans and service members from VA loan savings. Chris,

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welcome the show. Good to have you with us.

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Thank you for having me on the show.

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Good to be here.

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Well, you got a new spotlight on VA loans report

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from the Navy Federal Credit Union that's showing that while

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members and veterans, misconceptions still persists, preventing many from fully

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01:23:41.800 --> 01:23:45.239
taking advantage of this powerful home buying benefit. Let's break

1423
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that down. What misconceptions are we talking about here?

1424
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Sure, So we surveyed over one thousand service members and

1425
01:23:52.399 --> 01:23:55.039
both active duty and veterans, and we wanted to learn

1426
01:23:55.079 --> 01:23:58.199
more about their knowledge and their opinions on VA home lines.

1427
01:23:59.000 --> 01:24:03.439
One of the primary misconceptions that they showed us was

1428
01:24:03.479 --> 01:24:07.359
around the down payment, and this was common, so, you know,

1429
01:24:07.920 --> 01:24:10.600
requiring a large down payment can be a big barrier

1430
01:24:10.640 --> 01:24:13.840
for home ownership, but VA loans do not require a

1431
01:24:13.880 --> 01:24:18.479
down payment. Two thirds of our respondents did believe that

1432
01:24:18.520 --> 01:24:22.319
a down payment is required. Also, we found out that,

1433
01:24:22.520 --> 01:24:24.720
you know, a few from this military community are seeking

1434
01:24:24.760 --> 01:24:27.479
information from their lender, and we know that it's important

1435
01:24:27.560 --> 01:24:30.079
to work with the lender that specializes in serving the

1436
01:24:30.119 --> 01:24:33.840
military community, one like Navy Federal. And another thing we've

1437
01:24:33.960 --> 01:24:36.720
uncovered was that these the realtors that they're working with

1438
01:24:37.279 --> 01:24:40.600
need to have a strong understanding of VA loans and

1439
01:24:40.640 --> 01:24:43.079
they also need to have a strong understanding of the

1440
01:24:43.239 --> 01:24:47.520
unique needs of military buyers to make them best able

1441
01:24:47.560 --> 01:24:50.680
to take care of these active duty and veteran service members.

1442
01:24:51.279 --> 01:24:53.000
Well, i'd say that'd be priority one. Is that you

1443
01:24:53.000 --> 01:24:56.079
want to work with people that understand, you know your situation,

1444
01:24:56.720 --> 01:24:59.760
and you know VA loans because a lot of people

1445
01:24:59.800 --> 01:25:02.279
are out there just you know, and I understand everybody's

1446
01:25:02.279 --> 01:25:04.159
going to make a living and they're doing, but look

1447
01:25:04.159 --> 01:25:06.039
at if they're ill equipped to really help the VET

1448
01:25:06.439 --> 01:25:10.039
it's causing problems and it's really not giving the full

1449
01:25:10.119 --> 01:25:13.520
benefit of what's available with the VA loan if they

1450
01:25:13.520 --> 01:25:17.479
don't have the background and understanding right absolutely.

1451
01:25:17.920 --> 01:25:20.600
So, you know, we uncovered that from our survey, more

1452
01:25:20.640 --> 01:25:24.680
than forty percent of those that had a mortgage didn't

1453
01:25:24.760 --> 01:25:28.119
use their VA home loan benefit. When we asked them why,

1454
01:25:29.199 --> 01:25:31.800
nearly a quarter them said, well, I just didn't think

1455
01:25:31.840 --> 01:25:35.239
about it. We need we need to assure that the

1456
01:25:35.319 --> 01:25:38.399
VA home loan benefit, because it is such a powerful tool,

1457
01:25:39.199 --> 01:25:41.840
is top of mind when it comes to them looking

1458
01:25:41.840 --> 01:25:44.199
to purchase or if they're out there looking to refinance

1459
01:25:44.239 --> 01:25:44.920
their current loan.

1460
01:25:45.880 --> 01:25:48.279
Well, well I got you here, Chris. Let's talk about

1461
01:25:48.520 --> 01:25:53.600
those key benefits that you know, veterans should really have

1462
01:25:53.720 --> 01:25:56.640
top of mind so that you know, we can do

1463
01:25:56.680 --> 01:25:58.199
something about that forty percent.

1464
01:25:59.319 --> 01:26:01.840
Sure, you know, so there's no down payment, great benefit,

1465
01:26:02.159 --> 01:26:05.000
but VA mortgage loans were designed to make home ownership

1466
01:26:05.000 --> 01:26:08.119
more attainable, and so others of the benefits is they're

1467
01:26:08.119 --> 01:26:11.239
generally going to have lower interest rates than conventional loans.

1468
01:26:11.680 --> 01:26:16.159
They're also going to have more flexible underwriting guidelines. Both

1469
01:26:16.199 --> 01:26:18.199
of those things are going to make it a little

1470
01:26:18.199 --> 01:26:20.479
bit easier to qualify for a loan, do you know,

1471
01:26:20.520 --> 01:26:22.840
help you help you to get approved? And of course

1472
01:26:23.159 --> 01:26:24.960
lower interest rates is going to help you to have

1473
01:26:25.000 --> 01:26:28.000
a more affordable payment as well, and that's something that

1474
01:26:28.239 --> 01:26:31.840
everybody out there should want. Once you have a VA loan,

1475
01:26:32.319 --> 01:26:34.760
you also have the feature that comes with it, which

1476
01:26:34.800 --> 01:26:39.119
is the streamline refinance. And so you know, now that

1477
01:26:39.159 --> 01:26:42.800
we're in an interest rate declining market, this is this

1478
01:26:42.880 --> 01:26:45.159
is going to be very important for our veterans and

1479
01:26:45.199 --> 01:26:48.920
our service members out there. The VA streamline refinance, we

1480
01:26:49.000 --> 01:26:54.319
call it the interest rate refinance, interest rate reduction refinance loan,

1481
01:26:54.399 --> 01:26:57.560
or the VA EARL is a reduced documentation and a

1482
01:26:57.600 --> 01:26:59.680
reduced closing cost refinance.

1483
01:26:59.720 --> 01:26:59.920
Op.

1484
01:27:01.840 --> 01:27:04.920
Well, you bring up a couple of comparisons there, but

1485
01:27:05.239 --> 01:27:07.239
you know, for those let's just say, for those forty

1486
01:27:07.319 --> 01:27:09.760
percent of the people that didn't know about their VA loan,

1487
01:27:09.880 --> 01:27:13.439
they didn't didn't take advantage of it. Now they're going

1488
01:27:13.479 --> 01:27:17.920
to refi, and let's compare the refi process of a

1489
01:27:18.039 --> 01:27:20.479
regular loan versus a VA loan.

1490
01:27:22.039 --> 01:27:24.399
Okay, you know, we want to make sure that they

1491
01:27:24.439 --> 01:27:27.640
do compare. We want to look at the different options

1492
01:27:27.680 --> 01:27:31.800
that are available to them. And so the idea is

1493
01:27:31.880 --> 01:27:34.600
that they should uncover that the VA home loan is

1494
01:27:34.600 --> 01:27:37.720
going to be very often, it's going to be a

1495
01:27:37.760 --> 01:27:40.119
better option. It's going to have lower interest rates than

1496
01:27:40.119 --> 01:27:42.520
what's available on the conventional right.

1497
01:27:42.960 --> 01:27:45.960
And also in just in terms of you know, rapidity

1498
01:27:46.000 --> 01:27:48.920
and going through the paperwork, and you know, because you're

1499
01:27:48.960 --> 01:27:54.880
you're dealing with the VA and the process that's geared

1500
01:27:54.920 --> 01:27:59.800
and designed for Service members, So you know, it's I

1501
01:27:59.800 --> 01:28:02.960
got to think it's just so much more favorable to

1502
01:28:03.039 --> 01:28:05.239
be dealing with the VA as opposed to a regular

1503
01:28:05.239 --> 01:28:06.119
consumer loan.

1504
01:28:06.000 --> 01:28:08.760
Right, absolutely, you know.

1505
01:28:08.800 --> 01:28:10.880
And again, so if these are the home buyers that

1506
01:28:10.920 --> 01:28:13.520
are out there, just as we talked to Bet, make

1507
01:28:13.600 --> 01:28:16.439
sure that you're working with a lender that specializes in

1508
01:28:16.560 --> 01:28:18.920
VA loans, but also got to make sure that you

1509
01:28:18.960 --> 01:28:21.760
connect with the right real estate agent. Now, this is

1510
01:28:21.800 --> 01:28:24.359
another way that Navy Federal can help the real estate

1511
01:28:24.399 --> 01:28:29.159
agents out there. We offer free specialized training for real

1512
01:28:29.279 --> 01:28:35.000
estate agents, including realtor continuing education, and then we'll connect

1513
01:28:35.199 --> 01:28:39.600
our buyers to trained agents through the Navy Federal Realty

1514
01:28:39.600 --> 01:28:40.359
Plus program.

1515
01:28:41.720 --> 01:28:44.720
Well, Chris Davis, as we wrap things up here, Chris,

1516
01:28:44.760 --> 01:28:47.239
by the way, is Navy Federal's assist and Vice President

1517
01:28:47.560 --> 01:28:51.359
of Residential Lending. So as we wrap things up, remind

1518
01:28:51.520 --> 01:28:55.039
our service members of any other tips that we haven't

1519
01:28:55.079 --> 01:28:58.279
talked about or even you know, you know, just help

1520
01:28:58.880 --> 01:29:01.000
help them remember what it is that we've talked about,

1521
01:29:01.319 --> 01:29:03.520
and then also where they can go for more information.

1522
01:29:04.600 --> 01:29:05.520
Sure, you know.

1523
01:29:05.600 --> 01:29:08.039
So one of another thing we uncovered was that our

1524
01:29:08.119 --> 01:29:11.439
active duty service members had even a little bit less

1525
01:29:11.479 --> 01:29:14.239
knowledge than the veterans that are out there. And again,

1526
01:29:14.359 --> 01:29:17.279
our relters need to need to help them, you know,

1527
01:29:17.399 --> 01:29:19.760
hold them up, you know, help them to find all

1528
01:29:19.760 --> 01:29:23.000
this information that they need. And so these these service

1529
01:29:23.039 --> 01:29:25.720
members and these veterans need to do their homework. If

1530
01:29:25.760 --> 01:29:28.600
you want to learn more about VA loans, visit any

1531
01:29:28.640 --> 01:29:31.439
of our branches at Navy Federal or call our toll

1532
01:29:31.520 --> 01:29:35.840
free contact center anytime. And then also anyone can use

1533
01:29:35.920 --> 01:29:39.760
the tremendous tools and resources that we have available online

1534
01:29:40.119 --> 01:29:43.119
and you can get there at Navy Federal dot org.

1535
01:29:43.880 --> 01:29:46.399
Well, Chris, you know a lot of people. You know,

1536
01:29:46.720 --> 01:29:49.520
now you feel a lot more comfortable in talking to

1537
01:29:49.560 --> 01:29:52.439
service people and saying, hey, thank you for your service. Well,

1538
01:29:52.439 --> 01:29:54.359
this is a great way to thank vests for their service.

1539
01:29:54.439 --> 01:29:56.920
Right to these real estate agents is to be a

1540
01:29:57.000 --> 01:30:02.439
real agent of positivity and be a great resource for

1541
01:30:02.520 --> 01:30:06.000
veterans out there and Navy Federal, like you said, is offering,

1542
01:30:06.159 --> 01:30:10.119
you know, some continuing educational and some educational benefits for

1543
01:30:10.159 --> 01:30:13.239
them to make them a better real estate agent for

1544
01:30:13.359 --> 01:30:17.239
this key category. Right absolutely.

1545
01:30:17.640 --> 01:30:20.159
I know that we all want to do what's best

1546
01:30:20.560 --> 01:30:24.159
for these service members, and so, yeah, take advantage to

1547
01:30:24.199 --> 01:30:26.880
some of the tools and some of the resources that

1548
01:30:26.920 --> 01:30:30.560
we have available to realtors and to our service members

1549
01:30:30.600 --> 01:30:31.039
out there.

1550
01:30:31.199 --> 01:30:32.960
Is it the same website that they would go to

1551
01:30:33.039 --> 01:30:34.920
as well, Chris.

1552
01:30:34.560 --> 01:30:37.000
Yeah, it is Navy Federal dot org.

1553
01:30:37.680 --> 01:30:40.479
Well, Chris Davis has been our guests these Navy Federals.

1554
01:30:40.520 --> 01:30:44.119
Assistant and vice president of Residential Lending. Chris, thank you

1555
01:30:44.159 --> 01:30:46.760
so much for your time. Appreciate it. Take care, I

1556
01:30:46.800 --> 01:30:47.399
appreciate you.

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01:36:33.239 --> 01:36:35.960
have actually had a couple of centers that were firebombed

1659
01:36:36.279 --> 01:36:42.680
exactly good ma, so sorry and shut down for nine months.

1660
01:36:42.760 --> 01:36:45.199
And so we're seeing a lot of those attacks from

1661
01:36:45.239 --> 01:36:50.680
an organization called Jane's Revenge. Those were activists and protesters

1662
01:36:50.720 --> 01:36:53.760
that didn't like the fact that pregnancy centers were helping

1663
01:36:53.800 --> 01:36:55.800
to save the lives of moms and their babies.

1664
01:36:57.560 --> 01:37:00.960
Why are they so soft on doing anything with James Revenge?

1665
01:37:01.000 --> 01:37:05.319
I mean, meanwhile, local community, I mean police are arresting

1666
01:37:05.399 --> 01:37:08.760
people outside of abortion centers just for praying, right, and

1667
01:37:08.840 --> 01:37:13.199
yet you've got these groups like James revenge, actually doing

1668
01:37:13.279 --> 01:37:18.720
destruction of property and impeding people's ability to get healthcare,

1669
01:37:19.279 --> 01:37:22.800
and they're operating without impunity. What are we missing here?

1670
01:37:23.760 --> 01:37:26.399
Well, from what we've been told by a lot of

1671
01:37:26.439 --> 01:37:31.399
the organizations that were attacked, we've actually focused on the

1672
01:37:31.439 --> 01:37:33.840
family has reached out and said what can we do,

1673
01:37:33.880 --> 01:37:36.760
how can we help? What's going on legally? You know,

1674
01:37:36.880 --> 01:37:39.000
from the legal front where you know they have there

1675
01:37:39.000 --> 01:37:41.920
been arrest and that type of thing. The FBI has

1676
01:37:41.960 --> 01:37:44.600
been involved in the one here in Colorado that was firebombed.

1677
01:37:44.600 --> 01:37:48.640
They're calling it domestic terrorism, but nothing has been done

1678
01:37:48.680 --> 01:37:51.520
as far as an arrest because what is on any

1679
01:37:51.680 --> 01:37:54.600
of the like the cameras that are on these pregnancy centers.

1680
01:37:55.359 --> 01:37:57.199
The people who are doing this come in the middle

1681
01:37:57.199 --> 01:38:00.399
of the night, big black hoods or face you know,

1682
01:38:00.439 --> 01:38:03.359
covered and so it's very very difficult to find out

1683
01:38:03.399 --> 01:38:06.439
who's doing this to tie it to an individual or

1684
01:38:06.560 --> 01:38:12.079
individuals because we just don't have clear pictures that type

1685
01:38:12.079 --> 01:38:14.800
of thing. But Bill, it even goes beyond that, It

1686
01:38:14.840 --> 01:38:20.359
goes beyond the vandalism. We have pregnancy centers that are

1687
01:38:20.399 --> 01:38:24.600
being sued by their government, by their state government to

1688
01:38:24.720 --> 01:38:28.560
turn over records of their donors. That's illegal, and so

1689
01:38:28.720 --> 01:38:31.760
we actually have a pregnancy center in New Jersey that

1690
01:38:32.199 --> 01:38:35.239
their case will actually go before the Supreme Court in December.

1691
01:38:35.760 --> 01:38:40.880
ADF has been absolutely wonderful in protecting them, working with

1692
01:38:40.960 --> 01:38:44.039
them and saying this is unconstitutional, this is not something

1693
01:38:44.039 --> 01:38:47.520
that you should be doing. That's confidential information to that

1694
01:38:47.640 --> 01:38:52.720
pregnancy center. And so my humble opinion is they don't

1695
01:38:52.840 --> 01:38:55.760
like the fact that we're offering an alternative to something

1696
01:38:55.760 --> 01:38:58.880
that costs money. Our pregnancy centers don't make any money

1697
01:38:58.880 --> 01:39:01.239
from a decision that that young woman makes.

1698
01:39:01.520 --> 01:39:06.279
Right exactly, Yeah, you're impeding their business. I mean Abby Johnson,

1699
01:39:06.359 --> 01:39:10.800
when she was a director for Planned Parenthood, said quite

1700
01:39:10.840 --> 01:39:15.520
directly that she always could tell when business was going down,

1701
01:39:16.079 --> 01:39:18.319
and when pregnancies fell down, it was the result of

1702
01:39:18.359 --> 01:39:22.399
people being out in front of their building praying, and

1703
01:39:22.479 --> 01:39:27.359
so they know that prayers are working and it's an

1704
01:39:27.399 --> 01:39:29.399
impediment to their business.

1705
01:39:30.239 --> 01:39:33.600
Absolutely, we're hitting the bottom line. We're causing them money,

1706
01:39:33.680 --> 01:39:37.520
costing them money because our pregnancy centers are on that

1707
01:39:37.600 --> 01:39:41.279
front line. But they're offering alternatives to taking the life

1708
01:39:41.319 --> 01:39:44.039
of your child, and that costs money. That cost plan

1709
01:39:44.159 --> 01:39:48.000
Parent and other abortion providers. That's big business for them.

1710
01:39:48.119 --> 01:39:50.720
You know, you've heard Abby say that. You know, we

1711
01:39:50.800 --> 01:39:52.840
had quotas that we were supposed to hit, you know,

1712
01:39:52.920 --> 01:39:55.600
every single month, and that's because it brings in a

1713
01:39:55.640 --> 01:39:58.520
lot of money. And so the pregnancy centers are there

1714
01:39:59.439 --> 01:40:02.720
to work with woman regardless of the decision that she makes.

1715
01:40:02.840 --> 01:40:08.239
And so many times we hear sometimes sometimes we hear

1716
01:40:09.000 --> 01:40:11.359
that person standing in front of the planned parenthood told

1717
01:40:11.359 --> 01:40:14.359
me there's another clinic where I could go for free

1718
01:40:14.399 --> 01:40:16.640
and I could hear the heartbeat of my child. That

1719
01:40:16.800 --> 01:40:17.760
made all the difference.

1720
01:40:18.399 --> 01:40:20.159
Well, and that's the thing. If you go to a

1721
01:40:20.159 --> 01:40:23.279
planned parenthood, you're not going to see a sonogram. You're

1722
01:40:23.279 --> 01:40:25.600
not going to see your child. They purposely blocked that,

1723
01:40:25.840 --> 01:40:29.159
you know, from the mother. But yet if you go

1724
01:40:29.600 --> 01:40:34.079
to a a pregnancy center that supports life and really

1725
01:40:34.119 --> 01:40:38.039
true healthcare of the mother, they will see a sonogram.

1726
01:40:38.079 --> 01:40:40.960
And we know that. I think the number when I

1727
01:40:40.960 --> 01:40:44.600
was talking with a expert here recently, she was telling

1728
01:40:44.680 --> 01:40:47.039
me that ninety seven ninety eight percent of women who

1729
01:40:47.079 --> 01:40:49.880
see their baby in the womb with a sonogram changed

1730
01:40:49.920 --> 01:40:50.359
their mind.

1731
01:40:51.159 --> 01:40:53.560
Yes, absolutely, And you you said something Bill that I

1732
01:40:53.560 --> 01:40:56.399
think your listeners and our listeners really need to understand.

1733
01:40:56.920 --> 01:41:01.720
Pregnancy centers truly are offering real healthcare. They have nurses

1734
01:41:01.760 --> 01:41:04.640
on staff, they're under the supervision of a physician. And

1735
01:41:04.680 --> 01:41:07.520
the other thing that these centers are fighting against all

1736
01:41:07.560 --> 01:41:10.760
the time is abortion pill reversal. You know, they've been

1737
01:41:10.920 --> 01:41:13.840
you know, there's been you know, a lot of attacks

1738
01:41:13.920 --> 01:41:17.840
coming saying that that's junk medicine, it's fake, These are

1739
01:41:17.880 --> 01:41:20.920
fake clinics, and nothing could be further from the truth.

1740
01:41:21.000 --> 01:41:24.520
That is a protocol that doctor George Delgatto from California

1741
01:41:24.760 --> 01:41:28.199
pioneered fifty years ago and it was used for women

1742
01:41:28.199 --> 01:41:31.119
that high that were in high risk pregnancies, meeting they

1743
01:41:31.119 --> 01:41:35.960
were at risk for miscarriages. It's just progesterum. It just

1744
01:41:36.119 --> 01:41:39.800
replaces what that first pill has destroyed in that woman's body.

1745
01:41:39.840 --> 01:41:43.920
It's not junk medicine. But again, we're hitting their bottom line.

1746
01:41:44.079 --> 01:41:48.079
We're taking away that. You know that I would say,

1747
01:41:48.239 --> 01:41:51.279
you know, if a young woman is constantly not constantly sorry,

1748
01:41:51.319 --> 01:41:54.319
if a young woman is wanting to reverse her abortion

1749
01:41:55.039 --> 01:41:58.600
through the abortion pill, that sends other messages to young

1750
01:41:58.640 --> 01:42:00.600
women here going oh wait, maybe I don't want to

1751
01:42:00.640 --> 01:42:03.520
do that, Maybe I don't want to buy those pills.

1752
01:42:03.840 --> 01:42:06.199
So again we're hitting that bottom line. It's all about

1753
01:42:06.279 --> 01:42:09.159
money for them, But Bill, it's all about life for

1754
01:42:09.239 --> 01:42:11.239
those pregnancy seekers on the front line.

1755
01:42:11.560 --> 01:42:14.720
Yeah, without a doubt. And Robin the stories of women

1756
01:42:14.760 --> 01:42:19.920
who have gone before, who decided against life, and they

1757
01:42:19.960 --> 01:42:22.479
tell you, without exception how much they regret. Yes, you

1758
01:42:22.520 --> 01:42:24.880
may see a movie star, you know, like one I

1759
01:42:24.880 --> 01:42:28.960
couldn't believe I've had fourteen abortions and I'm so happy. Really,

1760
01:42:29.199 --> 01:42:31.439
I mean, you might be right now and you might

1761
01:42:31.479 --> 01:42:34.760
be trying to convince yourself that you're happy, but you're

1762
01:42:34.760 --> 01:42:37.880
going to have a moment like most women and even

1763
01:42:38.000 --> 01:42:42.399
fathers who are increasing numbers, Robin, are finding and coming

1764
01:42:42.439 --> 01:42:46.520
to that crossroads of regret and realizing, my god, I'm

1765
01:42:46.520 --> 01:42:48.520
going to have to I'm living with this for the

1766
01:42:48.560 --> 01:42:49.920
rest of my life. Robin.

1767
01:42:50.600 --> 01:42:53.600
Absolutely. And from a lot of the statistics that we

1768
01:42:53.720 --> 01:42:56.720
show the at risk behavior of a young man or

1769
01:42:56.760 --> 01:42:59.520
even a young woman young excuse me, a young woman

1770
01:42:59.640 --> 01:43:02.680
or a young man after they've made that abortion decision,

1771
01:43:03.199 --> 01:43:06.880
drug and alcohol abuse goes up, suicidal thoughts, mental health,

1772
01:43:07.239 --> 01:43:08.960
and Bill, that's one of the things that you know,

1773
01:43:09.000 --> 01:43:11.479
I would say the left has really camped on for

1774
01:43:11.560 --> 01:43:14.600
years and years. Is mental health? Mental health? Why aren't

1775
01:43:14.640 --> 01:43:17.199
we talking about the mental health that having an at

1776
01:43:17.239 --> 01:43:21.239
home abortion creates in that young woman? You know, and you're.

1777
01:43:21.439 --> 01:43:22.800
Talking about how do you I mean, that's the thing

1778
01:43:22.840 --> 01:43:26.640
I keep saying, Robin. How do you unsee your baby

1779
01:43:26.720 --> 01:43:27.720
in the toilet bowl?

1780
01:43:28.199 --> 01:43:31.800
Absolutely? And how is that true healthcare bill? How is

1781
01:43:31.880 --> 01:43:35.920
that empowerment for women? We are not serving young women?

1782
01:43:36.000 --> 01:43:39.119
Well if we're telling her that's the best thing, that

1783
01:43:39.159 --> 01:43:42.000
two little pills fixes a problem? And since when did

1784
01:43:42.000 --> 01:43:45.800
pregnancy become a problem? And thinking about the regret and

1785
01:43:45.840 --> 01:43:48.279
the guilt and the shame and the loss and the

1786
01:43:48.319 --> 01:43:51.199
grief that she'll feel for years and like you said,

1787
01:43:51.399 --> 01:43:53.720
the rest of her life. We can do better.

1788
01:43:54.319 --> 01:43:57.439
Well, Robin, I was talking with my good friend Jeff

1789
01:43:57.479 --> 01:44:00.880
camp here last week about this, and I said, the

1790
01:44:01.000 --> 01:44:05.039
challenges and I guess it's a bit of a messaging issue,

1791
01:44:05.319 --> 01:44:07.920
and that is that we have to attack the problem

1792
01:44:08.279 --> 01:44:13.119
before you know, pregnancy happens. Is that each girl has

1793
01:44:13.159 --> 01:44:17.319
to understand that she's absolutely precious. I'm sure when when

1794
01:44:17.359 --> 01:44:20.880
she was born, ninety nine percent of the father's my

1795
01:44:20.960 --> 01:44:24.560
precious daughter. I'm protecting my daughter. I love her and

1796
01:44:24.640 --> 01:44:26.800
I want the best for her. But then you know,

1797
01:44:26.880 --> 01:44:31.159
the culture comes in and suddenly the daughter is left unprotected.

1798
01:44:31.199 --> 01:44:35.079
And in some cases they're sent to universities thinking, oh,

1799
01:44:35.079 --> 01:44:37.680
I'm going to educate my daughter and I'm taking a

1800
01:44:37.720 --> 01:44:40.199
second mortgage out in the home in order to afford this,

1801
01:44:40.520 --> 01:44:43.680
and they send her there and one in five girls

1802
01:44:43.720 --> 01:44:47.800
who go to these universities end up pregnant. So how

1803
01:44:47.920 --> 01:44:51.079
is that part of education? What have we done? You know,

1804
01:44:51.560 --> 01:44:54.920
in the hopes of giving a child, particularly our daughters,

1805
01:44:55.039 --> 01:44:58.359
a better future, we send them to a place that

1806
01:44:59.439 --> 01:45:03.560
gets them in more trouble than you know, like I said,

1807
01:45:03.720 --> 01:45:06.399
that will be with them for the rest of their life.

1808
01:45:06.640 --> 01:45:09.319
Absolutely, And Bill, you hit on something that I think

1809
01:45:09.439 --> 01:45:15.199
is so key. This generation has been taught that their

1810
01:45:15.279 --> 01:45:18.399
rights matter more than anything else. And that's that university.

1811
01:45:18.560 --> 01:45:21.920
You know, that that ideology of you know, it's your

1812
01:45:22.039 --> 01:45:24.920
right to have an abortion, it's your body, it's your choice.

1813
01:45:25.359 --> 01:45:28.079
When did we stop talking to her about her value

1814
01:45:28.079 --> 01:45:30.640
and who she is in Christ? If she doesn't felt

1815
01:45:30.680 --> 01:45:32.760
like she has value, then how does she value the

1816
01:45:32.760 --> 01:45:34.840
life inside of her Same thing with that.

1817
01:45:34.800 --> 01:45:37.880
Young man exactly, I was going to say it's yes.

1818
01:45:38.000 --> 01:45:40.520
Yeah, if he's pushing her to get an abortion, then

1819
01:45:40.600 --> 01:45:43.520
when did his cargo off the rails, so to speak

1820
01:45:43.560 --> 01:45:47.479
of No, it is your right to protect your child,

1821
01:45:48.039 --> 01:45:50.279
it's your right to protect this young woman that you're

1822
01:45:50.279 --> 01:45:53.560
in a relationship with, and it's culture. It's culture just

1823
01:45:53.640 --> 01:45:56.760
screaming at them that this is easy, that this is

1824
01:45:56.800 --> 01:46:02.000
a quick fix, that it's her, it's empowerment, and somehow

1825
01:46:02.000 --> 01:46:04.680
we've tried to tell her that her value in Christ

1826
01:46:04.760 --> 01:46:08.600
is not as valuable as her being empowered to make decisions.

1827
01:46:08.880 --> 01:46:11.479
We're not saying we don't agree with her making decisions.

1828
01:46:11.520 --> 01:46:13.840
We just know that the decision for life is the

1829
01:46:13.840 --> 01:46:16.760
best decision and she needs to have the information to

1830
01:46:16.880 --> 01:46:18.479
make that decision.

1831
01:46:18.359 --> 01:46:21.760
And make a decision early. I mean, honor yourself, your

1832
01:46:21.760 --> 01:46:24.960
own identity, and for the young men as well, you

1833
01:46:25.000 --> 01:46:26.720
need to honor yourself because you know what, you're going

1834
01:46:26.800 --> 01:46:28.439
to be a father, and you're going to have a daughter.

1835
01:46:28.680 --> 01:46:30.479
You're going to want your daughter to go through this,

1836
01:46:30.800 --> 01:46:33.159
to be in a situation of going, oh my god,

1837
01:46:33.800 --> 01:46:38.920
I impregnated my girlfriend. I mean, somehow we've normalized that

1838
01:46:39.039 --> 01:46:42.079
to think that, oh, it's just you know, part of

1839
01:46:42.119 --> 01:46:46.079
growing up is to impregnate your girlfriend and then deal

1840
01:46:46.159 --> 01:46:49.079
with You know, something is life changing, is an abortion

1841
01:46:49.479 --> 01:46:52.720
because it will change your life. It's impossible for it

1842
01:46:52.760 --> 01:46:53.039
not to.

1843
01:46:53.960 --> 01:46:56.359
But don't you feel like that is part of the

1844
01:46:56.399 --> 01:46:59.600
agenda of the pro choice side is to normalize abortion.

1845
01:47:00.359 --> 01:47:03.800
You know, I remember when Rose was first put into

1846
01:47:03.880 --> 01:47:06.000
law in my mom. You know, I won't tell you

1847
01:47:06.039 --> 01:47:08.560
how old I am, but I do remember, but my

1848
01:47:08.680 --> 01:47:12.000
mom saying, what a sad day for America? And I

1849
01:47:12.079 --> 01:47:14.199
just think, you know this many years later she would

1850
01:47:14.279 --> 01:47:16.720
be we lost my mom several years ago, but she

1851
01:47:16.800 --> 01:47:20.199
would be so saddened to know that those words meant

1852
01:47:20.520 --> 01:47:25.600
millions of abortions. And again, how is that? How is

1853
01:47:25.640 --> 01:47:30.199
that being normalized? It's our culture, it's TV, it's social media,

1854
01:47:30.560 --> 01:47:33.720
and so Bill, we have to be in those markets,

1855
01:47:33.760 --> 01:47:36.039
even though we you know, we don't like the social media,

1856
01:47:36.079 --> 01:47:38.680
we don't like TikTok, but there's a way for us

1857
01:47:38.720 --> 01:47:41.319
to reach those young women and those young men with

1858
01:47:41.399 --> 01:47:45.600
a message of life, a message that doesn't include taking

1859
01:47:45.640 --> 01:47:49.319
the life of your child. We just have to be

1860
01:47:49.520 --> 01:47:52.920
we have to be savvy, we have to be aggressive,

1861
01:47:52.960 --> 01:47:55.199
but we don't have to be in that space in

1862
01:47:55.239 --> 01:47:57.520
a really negative way. But we can put things in

1863
01:47:57.560 --> 01:47:59.479
front of these young women and in front of these

1864
01:47:59.479 --> 01:48:04.399
young men, remind them, like you said, you know, trust

1865
01:48:04.399 --> 01:48:07.920
yourself not to make these decisions. Stand strong. And that's

1866
01:48:07.920 --> 01:48:11.680
our responsibility as parents, is to really solidify that foundation

1867
01:48:12.359 --> 01:48:14.279
before they go to university.

1868
01:48:14.560 --> 01:48:16.600
I pray they do. I pray that well they must.

1869
01:48:17.600 --> 01:48:20.520
We've lost too many young Tilder. I mean, we've lost

1870
01:48:20.560 --> 01:48:23.560
a generation of a labor force. And what's the big

1871
01:48:23.600 --> 01:48:26.600
problem in America today. We don't have enough. We don't

1872
01:48:26.600 --> 01:48:29.560
have enough labors. Right, Yeah, because she killed them.

1873
01:48:30.119 --> 01:48:30.279
Right.

1874
01:48:31.079 --> 01:48:34.199
She's the vice president of Advocacy Robin Chambers with Focus

1875
01:48:34.279 --> 01:48:37.800
on the Family. Robin. For those that say, look at

1876
01:48:37.840 --> 01:48:40.479
I need some help. I'm in trouble here, I might

1877
01:48:40.520 --> 01:48:42.399
be in trouble. What do I do? What do you

1878
01:48:42.439 --> 01:48:42.960
tell them?

1879
01:48:43.600 --> 01:48:45.920
Oh? The first thing I would say to do is

1880
01:48:45.960 --> 01:48:48.479
go to focus on the Family dot com. One of

1881
01:48:48.479 --> 01:48:50.560
the things that we have right on that main page

1882
01:48:50.720 --> 01:48:53.239
is a pro life tabin. It talks about all of

1883
01:48:53.279 --> 01:48:56.840
the decisions that are facing them. But then second, one

1884
01:48:56.880 --> 01:48:59.319
of the best tools that focus on the family has

1885
01:48:59.359 --> 01:49:02.439
ever developed, something called the My Choice Network. It is

1886
01:49:02.479 --> 01:49:05.560
a digital database of all of the pregnancy centers that

1887
01:49:05.600 --> 01:49:08.039
have gotten a grant from Focus on the Family, so

1888
01:49:08.079 --> 01:49:10.720
we know we're sending them, and we're sending that young

1889
01:49:10.760 --> 01:49:14.159
woman to a pregnancy center that has nurses that can

1890
01:49:14.199 --> 01:49:17.479
do that pregnancy test. They have our DMSs and nurses

1891
01:49:17.520 --> 01:49:21.239
you can do the ultrasound scan. And again, our pregnancy

1892
01:49:21.279 --> 01:49:24.399
centers do not make money from any decision that that

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young woman needs. But the easiest way to find one

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is the My Choice Network dot org or option Line

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dot org is another that's another database that we work

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with at Heartbeat International that has pregnancy centers across the

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United States and even globally. So if you have someone

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in another country that's listening to this, there are pregnancy

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centers ready and willing to help that young woman and

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that young man at any time. And so again Focus

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on the Family dot com and we have tons of information.

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But one of the things I always say to a

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young woman is you've got time. Take a breath. Go

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talk to someone who isn't coursing you. But also go

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talk to someone who's not going to make make money

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off of the decision that you're making. Go talk to someone.

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Just take a breath to slow down, you have time.

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You're not alone.

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You're not alone, absolutely, and that's one of the things

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the pregnancy centers. They're safe, they're warm, they're welcoming, there's

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no judgment, and they will go through this pregnancy with her.

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She is not alone. That is a perfect, perfect statement

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to let her know there are people ready to walk

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alongside her.

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Robin Chambers focus on the Family's vice president of advocacy, Robin,

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thank you for being with us. Take care, God bless.

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Thank you Bill.

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