Oct. 31, 2025

The Bill Martinez Show 10 31 25

The Bill Martinez Show 10 31 25
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The Bill Martinez Show 10 31 25
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Are you ready? Yeah, Okay, let's do it.

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Ill Martina's Live a program about current events, our culture,

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our values, our politics, and our future.

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And now Bill Martinez.

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Well six minutes after the top of the hour, right now,

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and it's time for doctor Michael Butler, public policy analyst,

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economics expert, and professor of finance at Stockton University in

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New Jersey.

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Hey, Michael, good to have you with us. How are you.

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I'm doing well, Bill, Thanks for having me, as you know,

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it's always my pleasure to be here.

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Well, I want to get your read on No King's Day.

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Gary Bauer said, it was a bunch of white hippies

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over seven paraded out there. And you know, I don't

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know how much George Sorow is sad to pay them,

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but you know he probably had them on the on

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the docket, and you know on the payroll. Is we

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understand a lot of these with professional signs already printed up.

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Wasn't that convenient?

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Huh?

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Yeah?

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So from the information I gathered, it was about seven

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million people turned out to about twenty five hundred different locations,

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So they did get a lot of people when they

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spanned the group of people there, and look they look

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like older white people, and based on some of the

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things they were saying. Full disclosure, I was a hippie

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back in the seventies myself, so I know what these

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people look like and I didn't. That's about about what

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was there. I don't think the whole thing did much

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more than maybe energize the Democrats base a little bit.

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I don't think it was very productive. President Trump is

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not a king.

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Now.

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They've rattled off a bunch of reasons why they think

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he is a king. But basically, you know, when a

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politician gets into office, you see a particularly the president,

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you see some problems. Say well, we're going to solve

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this problem. I'm a bipartisan subcommittee in one of the

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houses of Congress. We'll give them thirty days to study

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the problem. They'll come back with the report. We'll take

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another thirty days to rebut the report. Then we'll all

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try to come up with a solution. Meanwhile, six months

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goes by, eight months goes by, and nothing happens. Right

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President Trump said, I see a problem. I'm a business person.

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If you have a problem in business, you fix it

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right away. So he's just going to take whatever authority

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he can to solve these problems. Now, the Democrats have

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challenged him in court. Most of the time they've been

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successful at the first level, but they end up losing

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at the appellate or further at the Supreme court level.

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So I guess this was good for the Democrats. It

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was kind of a feel good thing for them. I

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don't see a lot of positive things coming out of it.

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I wish they would have spent the effort on really

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trying to resolve this government shutdown, rather than spending all

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that money and having these things all over the country.

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Well, it's clear they're not interested.

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You know, this is this is a cause for them,

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the cause azure, you know, for them right now, all

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tied to you know, their their madness over Donald Trump.

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I mean, it is it's a mental issue for these people.

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I mean, and they look so bad and then here

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it is. It's kind of comical. Like you say, roughly

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about seven million people estimated, you know, across the country

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that attended these no King's rallies. And yes there were

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a lot of older people, but even the young people,

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you know, they asked them, you know, they would go

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in man on the street interview, asked them why they

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were there.

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Yeah, I'm getting paid, you know, you know, or whatever.

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I mean, it wasn't the kind of answer I'm sure

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the Democrats wanted to hear, so their constituents did not

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serve them very well. On top of that, the Democrats themselves,

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Elizabeth Warren and you know, just go down the list, Schumer.

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I mean, they just sound like, what are you talking about.

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I mean, it's just madness, Michael. It's hard to make

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sense out of it. I don't know how you intellectualize

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and bless your constituents with that kind of lack of intelligence.

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And you had some of Nancy Pelosi doing some things.

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Colory Booker was out there, Shift was out there all

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saying this is democracy. Well, all it is is a

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bunch of look like older white people out in the

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street screaming about how bad Trump is. What everybody should

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be concentrating on the House. Getting this government shut down

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ended the whole thing, you know, as you know, the

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Republicans in the House passed the continuing resolution, which we've

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done the last thirteen times this has been a problem.

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All it says is, look, we can't resolve the budget

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right house, Let's just keep things where they are for

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another seventy five days and let's see if we can

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figure it out. It passed in the House, came about

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five votes short of passing in the Senate, and then

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suddenly the Democrats say, we're not signing until you reverse

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most of what you did in the big beautiful bill

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that was signed into law in July. And what are

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they fighting over. So what they're fighting over was when

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COVID hit in twenty twenty one. Afterwards, after the shutdown ended,

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President Biden said, look, a lot of people still unemployed

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and are hurt by this thing. So we'll give an

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extra subsidy the people who were already subsidized and paying Obamacare,

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and we'll have it for a couple of years or

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run out at the end.

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End. That was Obamacare that was supposed to be affordable.

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Right, terrible, the Obamacare has been a disaster. But they said, look,

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we'll extend these subsidies temporarily till everybody can get back

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to work. Well, now the unemployment rate is down to

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four percent, so everybody's pretty much working and back to

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where they were, So they're going to eliminate that extra subsidy.

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It's not like all these people's bills are going to

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go sky high. All they're going to do is go

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back to where they were prior to this, which is about.

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About fifteen percent, right about. Yeah, yeah, that's and they should.

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And you know, look, look, the federal government runs a

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two trillion dollar deficit every year for the last four

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or five six years. The public debt is up to

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thirty eight trillion dollars. We have to stop that. Yes,

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So President the Trump administration has said, we're not raising

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tax rates on anybody. We're not raising tax rates on anybody. Period.

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Everybody you talk to will I tell you that they're

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over taxed. So we're not raising tax rates. We can

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grow the economy and then that will increase tax revenue,

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and indeed, tax revenue increases virtually every year. The problem

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is government spending, which was four point nine trillion in

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twenty nineteen is now over seven trillion in twenty twenty five.

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There's the problem. So you've got to you've got to

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cut government spending. Now, everybody says, well, yeah, we're a

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favorite cutting government spending, let's do that. But then when

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you suggest cutting something, somebody says, that's going to affect

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my constituents. You can't do that. Look for something else.

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Now there's virtually nowhere to cut spending because everybody complaints

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it's going to affect their constituents.

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Well, because you see, it's all tied to the vote. See,

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this is what I've been saying, you know for years.

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Here In fact, I'd asked, I asked our good friend

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with ATR Grover Norquiz to do an analysis on the

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thirty seven trillion dollars how much could we pull out

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of that and discern how much of that money was

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for vote getting. I mean, I know, theoretically broad Rush,

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you could probably say bill all of it. But I mean,

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you know, this stuff that we're talking about right now,

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one point five trillion that the Democrats want to spend,

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it's to garner votes. They don't think about ideas. You know,

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elect me because I got a great idea. No, elect

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me because I got free stuff. And this is the

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way the Democratic Party has worked. And so here we are.

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They have brought this country to the brink of socialism,

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and they have created the New York City of Tomorrow

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with Mamdani as the mayor. Because it's their policies that

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brought New York to this point. That is frustrated, the

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holy what have you out of these constituents there in

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New York, especially these young kids, and they're being told, hey,

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look at you know, free transportation, We're gonna have government

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run stores, rent phrases and all this good stuff.

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And what do they know.

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They don't realize the consequences in the history. All they

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are is they realize the pain right now, and they

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want some comfort, right yeah.

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And then, and what the Democrats say is, I'll fix

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this for you. I'll fix all these problems. Everything will

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be affordable. The thing is this has been tried over

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and over again in different countries, in different cities. I

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think Kansas City tried government run grocery stores eighteen million

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dollars later. It failed. I can't do it.

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I'll tell you what, Michael. We got to go to

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quick break. Let's pick it up on the other side.

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public colcy analysts and economics expert and professor of finance

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at Stockton University. Michael, as we were saying, these programs,

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these socialist programs, you know from you know, time and Memoriam,

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you know throughout Europe, anything with the ism you know

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has been attempted overseas, and they have been from day

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one when this great American idea came into being, said

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we can't have that.

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That's going to ruin our parade here.

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I mean, people are going to find out that they

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can actually make their own decisions and be responsible and

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have freedom. Oh, that's unacceptable. So they've been trying to

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tear at the edges and here they are. They've penetrated

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every parts of every part of our government in its operation,

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and it's brought us to this point where capitalism and

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a and true democracy as far as a democratic republic

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is concerned, is in jeopardy.

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Right, it certainly is. And all of the principles that

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made the country great. And I've talked on the show

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three or four times about this. We recall we went

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from the birth of a nation to the largest most

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prosperous economy in the world in about one hundred and

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fifty years, other countries hundreds thousands of years older. In

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my view, as I've stated before, those those four basic principles.

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We encouraged individual freedom as long as you didn't infringe

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upon anybody else's rights and pretty much do what you wanted.

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We encouraged individual responsibility as long as you're mentally and

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physically able. Everybody took care of themselves. We had low

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rates of taxation, so whatever you earned, you knew you

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were going to keep most of it. Tremendous incentive. And Fourthly,

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we had a limited role for government certain public goods,

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defense of the country, a legal system, etc. But other

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than that, government stayed out of the way. Those four principles,

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coupled with the fortunate to have abundant resource and the

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concept of private property, that made this country great. Everything

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that democrats wanted do are exactly opposite to that. They

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want to limit your freedom, tell you where to go

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and what to do. They want to replace individual freedom

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and the visual responsibility rather with social responsibility. You don't

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take care of yourself, the government will take care of you. Thirdly,

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they want high rates of taxation to pay for all this,

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not low rates. And fourthly, they want a very big

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role for government that's exactly opposite to what made the

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country rate and it will drag the country down. We

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have a new president in their President Trump, with classic

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free market principles. You can argue about the tariffs a

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little bit, but free market principles, trying to return individual freedom,

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individual responsibility, keeping tax rates low, and reducing the role

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of government, and everything that Democrats are doing is exactly

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opposite to that. And if we don't stop it quickly,

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it could cause some very permanent damage and mind view

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to the country.

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Well we already have.

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I mean, the US dollar has been the currency of

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choice around the world and that's being threatened right now

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because of where we are. And thank god for Donald

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Trump has actually put America back in the forefront on

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all things international. He is, you know, negotiating peace treaties,

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the tariffs, and leveling out the trade relationship with all

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our trade partners in such a way to where, hey,

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you know, it's not going to be at America's expense.

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I mean, you're strong enough.

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Now we should help and it should be win win

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for both of us. And yes, we've got, you know,

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like anything, you're used to dealing with it in a

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certain way, and then now you've got to make some adjustments,

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and there's going to be a little bit of you know,

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grief to happiness ratio in that process. But in the end,

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I think that they can see that it'll work out

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better for them. But it's like, you know, you don't

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know until you actually know. Right now, it's you know,

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the media and others are trying to, I think overly

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emotionalize this and are losing sight of the prospect of

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what could be exactly.

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There will be some short term pain that will go through,

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but you'll have tremendous, very long term gain. Look, Trump

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got into office, he took a look at all the

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trade deals that we have After World War Two, the

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US wanted to help everybody. So we said, look, we're

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going to have a very modest tiref two and a

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half percent and on anything to bring in you can sell.

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We expect the other countries to do the same thing.

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They put on twenty thirty forty fifty one hundred percent

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tariffs on our goods. We couldn't sell our goods anywhere.

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I Meanwhile, all their goods are flowing in. Their goods

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are flowing in, Our money's flowing out. They're not buying

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much from us, so none of their money is flowing in.

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We have a negative balance of trade over eight hundred

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billion dollars last year, and that's else flowing out of

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the country. He didn't want to take go to Congress

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and negotiate this, and that we had to stop it

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right away, and that's exactly what Trump did. He renegotiated

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all the deals, the trade deals, and now the big

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part of that is foreign markets will now be open

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to US manufacturers, which should cause tremendous growth. Again, it's

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a little bit of a shakeout period here. And then

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Trump said, there are certain vital products steel, aluminum, copper,

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medical supplies that should be made in the US. So

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I'm going to put a high tariff on those because

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we import most of them. Now the imports will now

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be too expensive, so we'll switch manufacturing back to the US. Again,

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a little bit of short term pain, but in the

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long term we'll have a lot more security because these

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vital products will be made back in the US.

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He once made and where they started, Michael.

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Exactly right, exactly the.

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Thing is that concerns me with all this.

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Yes, we're going to shake it out and we're going

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to get through, you know, some bumps in the road

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and work out this and it is going to be.

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A boom. I believe for a Mayriora. I really believe.

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You know, when Trump talks about the golden age of America,

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I believe that. But what scares me is that if

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it's put in the hands of the Democrats, they will disaster.

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They will they will spend all that money like drunken sailors.

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Now, I said when Trump got in two years from now,

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a little less before the November twenty twenty sixth election,

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a lot of his policies will start to pay off.

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People were worried when he got in all these tiers

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are going to cause inflation. And I said at the time,

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there will be some upward pressure on price from the tariffs,

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but he's going to vastly increase the supply of energy,

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and when you increase the supply of energy, the price

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comes down. Energy accounts for about directly about seven percent

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of the consumer price index, so any upward pressure from

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tariffs will be more than offset by the downward pressure

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on energy prices. I think by the end of next year,

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I'll have the inflation rate under two percent. We're starting

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to see even now, I mean it's only he's only

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eight months in, but even now, gas prices now exack down.

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The national average is about the one under three dollars

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a gallon, and we haven't seen that since I don't

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know when. But that's what's going to keep the inflation

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rate down and get more money in people's pockets.

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And we're not even operating on all cylinders yet, Michael,

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So what happens when we really, you know, rev this

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engine up and all the cylinders are pumping.

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You're going to see oil prices, which have dropped under

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sixty dollars a barrel, go down about fifty dollars a barrel.

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By the end of next year. You'll see gasoline, maybe

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even sooner, down to about two fifty a gallon. That'll

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give people more money to spend. That will help stimulate

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economic growth. And Trump has removed a lot of regulations

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which were stopping business from growing. The last thing that

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needs to be done is to somebody tell Jerome Pals

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to get into the program and bring interest rates down.

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Now they're meeting again next week, they're probably going to

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drop a quarter of a point. I've been pushing for

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at least a half a point. But everything helps. The

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federal funds rate over four percent, that's restrictive rate. Three

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and a quarter is neutral. Anything below that stimulative. We're

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in a restrictive rate, and we don't need to be.

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Inflation rate is coming down, energy costs will bring it

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down even further. We need to stimulate economic growth. And

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the jobs numbers, which have been revised so many times,

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I'm not sure what the real numbers are, but they

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look to be fairly weak. And we need to get

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that engine revving, as you say, and get the jobs.

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At it well.

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And as you say, Michael, the FED is just one

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another one of those cylinder components to rev up the

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engine right.

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Exactly, and it's one that should be. PAL should have

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cut interest rates back in March or April and start

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gradually bringing them down. They should have been a full

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percentage point today lower than what they were at the peak,

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and they should be even lower going into next year too.

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Eight PAL has turned into what I call not enough Pal.

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He's not cutting nearly enough. Let's see what happens next week.

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Well, this attitude and dissatisfaction as a person toward Donald

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Trump is hurting our country.

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And you know, enough of this TDS. I mean, I

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don't know.

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Maybe doctor Fauci can come up with a pill, and

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I don't care how many billions of dollars he makes,

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you know for that to make this, you know, settle

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down because this is absurd. It's hurting. It's hurting our country.

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Not help.

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And in spite of that, Donald Trump continues to hit

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home runs. Michael Butler exactly exactly.

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If you had a little more help from the Federal Reserve,

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these home runs will turn into grand slams. But he's

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things are going in the right direction now. If people

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will just leave him alone a little bit, let him

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do what he's trying to do. Like you say, he's

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got the border secure, you pretty much almost have world

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peace everywhere. As soon as he solves this Russia thing,

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he'll have world peace everywhere. He'll bring the inflation rate down,

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he'll increase economic growth, and nobody will see their tax

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rates go up. Nobody will see their tax rates go up.

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And that's what we want to see.

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Well, And the next time we get together, I want

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to talk about health with you. I want to talk

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about this Obamacare and the solutions that we need to

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look at, because I believe that we're capable of finding

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the right solution, but you got to get the politics

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out of it. Doctor Michael Butler, public policy analysts and

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economics expert and professor of Finance at Stockton University. Michael

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is always apre shake the time, take care, be well,

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my friend, always my pleasure.

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Nutrition for Patriot, Hey, good morning, Welcome Bill Martinez here

523
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along with doctor Paul ken Gore.

524
00:29:11.680 --> 00:29:12.920
Hey, doctor Paul, how you doing.

525
00:29:13.599 --> 00:29:15.279
I'm doing pretty good, Bill, how about you?

526
00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:15.720
Hey?

527
00:29:16.279 --> 00:29:18.000
I'm doing great all things considered.

528
00:29:18.039 --> 00:29:21.000
I mean, I'm being entertained by the Democrats that seem

529
00:29:21.079 --> 00:29:25.559
to have lost their ever loving picking minds over this shutdown.

530
00:29:26.079 --> 00:29:28.160
Let's just shut it down. Put people in pain. We're

531
00:29:28.200 --> 00:29:30.880
gonna admit that we're putting people in pain. But hey,

532
00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:34.799
look at we've got political ends to meet in all this,

533
00:29:35.039 --> 00:29:37.240
and so the heck with the people, right, just feed

534
00:29:37.279 --> 00:29:37.680
them cake.

535
00:29:38.640 --> 00:29:42.000
Yeah, you know it's very sort of Saul Olensky like

536
00:29:42.519 --> 00:29:45.519
I think. Yeah, yeah, it really is, you know, kind

537
00:29:45.519 --> 00:29:49.920
of you know, classic Olenski heights, you know, community organizing tactics.

538
00:29:49.960 --> 00:29:53.519
And we had a president who excelled at that, Barack Obama.

539
00:29:53.720 --> 00:29:58.160
You know, he was a community organizer from Chicago who

540
00:29:58.680 --> 00:30:04.240
studied Saulolensky aptly titled Rules for Radicals. And they're showing

541
00:30:04.359 --> 00:30:07.480
their radical stripes really pretty much everything that they do.

542
00:30:08.319 --> 00:30:11.680
And you know that would also include all these crazy

543
00:30:11.759 --> 00:30:16.319
no Kings protests and the anti ice protests. It seems

544
00:30:16.319 --> 00:30:20.440
like these people are basically you know, protesting, marching in

545
00:30:20.480 --> 00:30:24.920
the streets, agitated and on the verge of violence, of

546
00:30:25.000 --> 00:30:26.839
not committing violence at every turn.

547
00:30:27.640 --> 00:30:29.519
Well, and the thing is, Paul, to your point here,

548
00:30:30.119 --> 00:30:33.400
this is all brought to you by the Progressive Democratic Party.

549
00:30:33.960 --> 00:30:36.799
I mean, this has been decades in the working. Yes,

550
00:30:36.880 --> 00:30:41.319
Obama was a clear pronouncement of it. Biden continued on

551
00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:44.960
with that mission, and now here we are in New York.

552
00:30:45.000 --> 00:30:47.880
I feel for these people. I mean, you can see

553
00:30:47.880 --> 00:30:51.200
the look on their face. They are afraid. They're scared

554
00:30:51.279 --> 00:30:54.240
that they're going to end up with this socialist, this

555
00:30:54.480 --> 00:30:59.559
Marxist individual as a mayor of the country's biggest city.

556
00:31:00.599 --> 00:31:03.640
Well, they probably are, and that would be much deserved

557
00:31:03.640 --> 00:31:06.200
for the city and people of New York. I mean,

558
00:31:06.279 --> 00:31:09.119
that's he's going to get. I don't know that'll get

559
00:31:09.160 --> 00:31:10.720
a majority of the vote. I don't know that it'll

560
00:31:10.759 --> 00:31:14.000
get fifty percent plus. Oh no, I mean it depends

561
00:31:14.000 --> 00:31:16.880
on how this all shakes out. But you know, New

562
00:31:16.960 --> 00:31:21.119
York has been the longtime home of Communist Party USA

563
00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:26.599
Democratic Socialists of America, which this guy is one of those, right,

564
00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:30.599
and you know all these different agitators. In fact, just

565
00:31:30.599 --> 00:31:33.880
to skip back to the no Kings protests for a moment,

566
00:31:34.519 --> 00:31:39.160
if you look at the list of different comrades who

567
00:31:39.279 --> 00:31:43.319
supported that Saturday morning, October eighteenth, it was everything from

568
00:31:43.359 --> 00:31:46.039
the a c l U to move on dot org,

569
00:31:46.640 --> 00:31:50.759
to the SEIU, the Service Employees International Union, to the

570
00:31:50.759 --> 00:31:54.519
American Federation of Teachers. And you know, you would think

571
00:31:54.559 --> 00:31:59.200
that an organization of teachers would know that, no matter

572
00:31:59.200 --> 00:32:04.839
how much you hate Donald Trump, we don't have a king.

573
00:32:05.119 --> 00:32:07.559
You would think the educated class would know the difference,

574
00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:08.319
right at least?

575
00:32:08.359 --> 00:32:11.359
Right, what does that say about the people that are

576
00:32:11.400 --> 00:32:12.319
teaching our kids?

577
00:32:12.400 --> 00:32:12.559
Right?

578
00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:15.359
I mean we know they don't know what a fascist is.

579
00:32:15.480 --> 00:32:18.119
I mean they've made that clear over and over again.

580
00:32:18.160 --> 00:32:21.839
Or or a woman for that matter, Stay tuned for details.

581
00:32:21.480 --> 00:32:24.240
Right, Right, that's right? I guess. Yeah. Then again, you know,

582
00:32:24.279 --> 00:32:26.200
for a group of people that don't know what a

583
00:32:26.240 --> 00:32:29.119
male or female are, the difference between the two, I

584
00:32:29.160 --> 00:32:31.279
guess they wouldn't know the difference between a president and

585
00:32:31.319 --> 00:32:34.359
the king. But but yeah, no, you know, this is

586
00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:37.279
the kind of radicalism we're seeing everywhere. And I found

587
00:32:37.319 --> 00:32:40.759
it very fitting last night, Bill that, as that debate

588
00:32:40.920 --> 00:32:46.279
was going on between mom Donnie and angry Andrew Cuomo

589
00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:51.400
and Curtis Leewaw, my my teenage son was showing the

590
00:32:51.440 --> 00:32:54.599
podcast videos of one of the kind of you know,

591
00:32:54.880 --> 00:32:59.559
young gen zer guys that he follows, who was walking

592
00:32:59.599 --> 00:33:04.799
along with some anti ice protest group. And this guy

593
00:33:04.839 --> 00:33:08.680
who's on our side, was of course physically assaulted. There's,

594
00:33:08.759 --> 00:33:11.640
you know, never be any doubt that that would happen.

595
00:33:12.039 --> 00:33:14.440
So the left does when you disagree with him, they

596
00:33:14.759 --> 00:33:17.160
they scream at you, accuse you of hate. Even if

597
00:33:17.160 --> 00:33:19.920
you're smiling when you're talking to them, right, then they

598
00:33:19.960 --> 00:33:22.480
hate all over you, and then they start pounding you

599
00:33:22.599 --> 00:33:26.440
and in some cases, like Charlie Kirk, even get assassinated.

600
00:33:26.880 --> 00:33:27.319
Exactly.

601
00:33:27.640 --> 00:33:30.279
But this is the left, you know, the left has

602
00:33:30.319 --> 00:33:32.559
always been like this. The left has always been the

603
00:33:32.599 --> 00:33:36.440
movement of violence and the idea that you know, the

604
00:33:36.519 --> 00:33:39.720
quote unquote right has been the group of violence. No,

605
00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:43.400
the left has long prevailed in violence, French.

606
00:33:43.200 --> 00:33:51.119
Revolution, Bolshevik revolution, Leftists, Socialist Trotskyists, Marxist Stalinists, you know,

607
00:33:51.200 --> 00:33:55.599
on on down the line, and we're seeing it again

608
00:33:55.640 --> 00:33:56.480
today in America.

609
00:33:56.759 --> 00:33:59.599
Yeah, it's a familiar pattern, no doubt. I mean, you know,

610
00:33:59.759 --> 00:34:04.920
I'm earlier the very policies that the Democrats and it's

611
00:34:05.279 --> 00:34:07.000
I mean, and I get some people say, well, it's

612
00:34:07.079 --> 00:34:09.039
both sides, you know, I hate that both sides deal.

613
00:34:09.119 --> 00:34:12.239
But by and large, it's been the Democrat policies that

614
00:34:12.280 --> 00:34:15.559
have been enacted that have caused a lot of pain,

615
00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:20.360
especially for these young kids. And they don't quite understand

616
00:34:20.360 --> 00:34:23.800
how capitalism works. They don't understand what Trump is doing

617
00:34:24.239 --> 00:34:28.119
to save their bacon, to give them an economic future.

618
00:34:28.960 --> 00:34:32.400
And so now you've got a guy who's handing out candy. Hey,

619
00:34:32.760 --> 00:34:34.679
I'll give you this. This is free, this is free.

620
00:34:34.719 --> 00:34:38.519
You know, he's the the Oprah Winfrey of Manhattan, handing

621
00:34:38.559 --> 00:34:40.840
out everything. And these kids all they know is they're

622
00:34:40.880 --> 00:34:42.719
in pain, and this guy's going to relieve some of

623
00:34:42.719 --> 00:34:47.440
that pain. But like all things socialism, it's only temporary

624
00:34:48.000 --> 00:34:52.039
and they never deliver on their promises, and what ends

625
00:34:52.119 --> 00:34:54.840
up developing.

626
00:34:54.440 --> 00:34:55.519
Is shared misery.

627
00:34:55.960 --> 00:34:59.079
And if it's really runs its course, then we're talking

628
00:34:59.199 --> 00:35:00.400
human carnage as well.

629
00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:00.760
Right.

630
00:35:01.760 --> 00:35:05.159
Well, yeah, and mom Donnie and his Democratic socialist you know,

631
00:35:05.239 --> 00:35:08.519
Democratic socialists in New York, we're going to literally be

632
00:35:08.519 --> 00:35:11.840
getting out candy at their government stores, right and they

633
00:35:11.920 --> 00:35:16.760
and they pushed these government stores as a solution to inflation. Well,

634
00:35:16.840 --> 00:35:19.159
if they maybe stopped to pause to look around a

635
00:35:19.159 --> 00:35:22.400
little bit, since Trump has come into office, inflation is

636
00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:26.280
way down. Two years ago, under Biden, it was the

637
00:35:26.360 --> 00:35:28.559
highest that it had been since the Jimmy Carter years.

638
00:35:29.119 --> 00:35:31.079
And you know it was during that period. And I

639
00:35:31.079 --> 00:35:34.199
got news for you, folks. And once again, socialists wouldn't

640
00:35:34.239 --> 00:35:37.360
understand this because they don't understand economics. But you don't

641
00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:42.039
reduce socialism by creating government stores and increasing big government.

642
00:35:42.239 --> 00:35:47.000
I mean, you know, to quote that nationalists socialist German

643
00:35:47.119 --> 00:35:52.760
Workers Party leader Adolf Hitler. You know, Hitler said inflation,

644
00:35:53.480 --> 00:35:55.320
What do I have inflation to worry about for where

645
00:35:55.320 --> 00:35:58.880
I've got my stormtroopers to take care of, right exactly.

646
00:35:59.320 --> 00:36:01.639
That's not that's not the way it works. You know,

647
00:36:01.760 --> 00:36:06.639
government doesn't step in with a cudgel or government stores

648
00:36:06.760 --> 00:36:10.280
or whatever and cut inflation. I mean, what cuts inflation

649
00:36:10.920 --> 00:36:14.440
is a prosperous free market economy. And you don't have

650
00:36:14.480 --> 00:36:18.280
a prosperous free market economy when you have heavy government

651
00:36:18.599 --> 00:36:22.039
and socialism, even democratic socialism.

652
00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:22.679
Right.

653
00:36:23.039 --> 00:36:24.559
Well, and you bring up a good point here.

654
00:36:24.599 --> 00:36:28.280
Adolf Hitler was able to control the angry mobs because

655
00:36:28.880 --> 00:36:32.639
he was oppressive. Mamdani is high on charm, but I

656
00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:36.719
don't see him having an oppressive element. I mean, there's

657
00:36:36.719 --> 00:36:41.039
only so much you can do when the natives get restless.

658
00:36:41.360 --> 00:36:44.480
Yeah. Well, and also I mean yeah, in fact, Mussolini

659
00:36:44.519 --> 00:36:49.199
as well, Right, all these different right quote unquote fascists, Well,

660
00:36:49.239 --> 00:36:52.400
they were fascists, but they were socialist fascists. And Mussolini

661
00:36:52.840 --> 00:36:55.239
had been a full blown Marxist before he took over

662
00:36:55.880 --> 00:36:59.000
in nineteen twenty two. But in Mam Donnie's case, Yeah,

663
00:36:59.280 --> 00:37:02.000
you know the people with the guns around Mom Donnie,

664
00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:06.079
which I guess would presumably be the NYPD, Well, those

665
00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:09.000
are guys with guns who are good guys, and ma'n

666
00:37:09.440 --> 00:37:12.519
Mom Donnie and his ILK don't like them, right, they

667
00:37:12.519 --> 00:37:13.800
want to abolish the police.

668
00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:14.519
Uh.

669
00:37:14.599 --> 00:37:17.519
You know, in fact, probably I bet eighty to ninety

670
00:37:17.519 --> 00:37:21.559
percent of the guys in the NYPD are probably you know,

671
00:37:21.960 --> 00:37:25.400
probably voting for well, probably voting for Curtis Sleewak probably

672
00:37:25.440 --> 00:37:29.360
right exactly. They're they're Trump supporters, they're not Democrats, They're

673
00:37:29.599 --> 00:37:33.840
they're probably largely Republicans, and you know they're targeted by

674
00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:37.360
the democratic socialists as much as the free market is.

675
00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:40.280
You know, that's that's the whole abolish the police crowd.

676
00:37:40.800 --> 00:37:44.199
So when gets in, yeah, I mean there's it's not

677
00:37:44.280 --> 00:37:46.679
going to be any force at all. It's probably going

678
00:37:46.760 --> 00:37:51.239
to be so hands off with with with with law

679
00:37:51.360 --> 00:37:54.280
enforcement that is probably going to see a wild spike

680
00:37:54.320 --> 00:37:57.280
in crime like you saw in Portland and other places.

681
00:37:57.360 --> 00:38:01.400
Oh exactly exactly, Paul, help you understand for the every man,

682
00:38:01.800 --> 00:38:04.800
I mean, they hear terms like you know, communists, hardcore

683
00:38:04.920 --> 00:38:08.960
Marxist fascists. I mean, the bottom line for them, it's

684
00:38:08.960 --> 00:38:11.400
shared misery, isn't I mean to kind of put it

685
00:38:11.440 --> 00:38:14.320
in a couple of sentences or two, you know, in

686
00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:15.760
terms of what's the difference.

687
00:38:16.760 --> 00:38:21.800
Yeah, well, that's exactly right. And I mean democratic socialism. Look, look, socialism,

688
00:38:21.800 --> 00:38:26.360
according to Marxist Leninist theory, was the final transitionary step

689
00:38:26.800 --> 00:38:30.199
to communism. Yes, so all of history would go through

690
00:38:30.239 --> 00:38:37.480
these different dialectical stages, you know, from basically you know, slavery, feudalism,

691
00:38:37.880 --> 00:38:40.559
and then to capitalism and then to socialism and then

692
00:38:40.559 --> 00:38:44.079
to communism. So the socialist aspires to communism, and you

693
00:38:44.079 --> 00:38:47.880
get these modern day you know, democratic socialists who say, oh, well,

694
00:38:47.880 --> 00:38:50.679
we wouldn't support that. I mean, we're not Marxists, and

695
00:38:50.719 --> 00:38:54.239
we're not even really true socialists. We're democratic socialists. But

696
00:38:54.239 --> 00:38:57.280
I would tell everybody listening go to the website of

697
00:38:57.320 --> 00:39:00.280
the Democratic Socialists of America, which is mom done his

698
00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:03.119
group and for at least ten years running. And I

699
00:39:03.159 --> 00:39:06.119
know this because I take screenshots of it, and I

700
00:39:06.159 --> 00:39:08.840
teach this stuff and I lecture on it. They've described

701
00:39:08.880 --> 00:39:13.719
themselves as quote, the largest socialist organization in the United States,

702
00:39:14.119 --> 00:39:21.280
and that phrase democratic. Lenin favored democracy. Lenin favored what

703
00:39:21.360 --> 00:39:24.519
he called democracy. You know, his definition of it was was,

704
00:39:24.559 --> 00:39:28.519
you know, economic equality. That's what they mean by democracy,

705
00:39:28.679 --> 00:39:33.039
right right, exactly, democracy that's equality. And that's kind of

706
00:39:33.039 --> 00:39:35.519
how the modern day American left supports it as well.

707
00:39:35.519 --> 00:39:38.159
When they talk about democracy, they're not talking about like

708
00:39:38.280 --> 00:39:42.239
First Amendment, freedoms and Jefferson and Madison and Bill of Rights.

709
00:39:42.360 --> 00:39:45.760
They mean equality. And so that, yeah, that could be

710
00:39:46.119 --> 00:39:52.679
you know, economic equality, environmental equality, it could be gender equality,

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And we're back with you right now, fourteen minutes before

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I'm Bill Martinezi's doctor Paul Kenngre, Professor of political science

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at Grove City College in Grove City, Pennsylvania. So to

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summarize this first segment in terms of where we are

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right now, you know, as a result, I still maintain

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because of democratic policies, that's what's given rise to this

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socialism and really has brought them all out of the closet. Paul,

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I mean, look at it. I mean they're fully exposed,

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whether it's Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, go right on down

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the line. I mean, of course who already k you

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about Bernie. But they're all, you know, they're all coming

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to this corner. I don't know how they redeem themselves,

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you know, And I think the party itself is going

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to end up having to receive some sort of wrecking

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ball experience if it's ever going to be relevant again.

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Yeah, and they will because they never fight the extremists

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in their own circles on their own side. And for

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a while, a few years ago, I could tell you

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Bill that the Nancy Pelosi types, as liberal as she is,

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she was still the fairly traditional Democrat, right, she went

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back like forty years right into the party. Joe Biden

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to one point was you know, a fairly traditional moderate

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Democrat at one point even supported the High Amendment against

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you know, you know, abortion funding, right at one point,

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I mean Biden went back to late nineteen seventies, uh,

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for you know, first get it first getting elected. But

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for a while, they they were very concerned and trying

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to keep this sort of democratic socialist element from hijacking

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their party. But like they inevitably do, they eventually just

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give way to the radicals and let the entire far

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left grab and hijack their party and take them in

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whatever direction on any issue, abortion, transgenderism, gender ideology, and

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now democratic socialism. And you know, they they just and

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and and also their vote they're voters aid and abted.

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I mean, I mean, to be fair, I've met a

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lot of a lot. You know, one time, long time

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Democrats who eventually got so sick and tired of this

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that they left the party. And a lot of them

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now support Trump. But so many others, and I've seen

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them over the years, especially older Democrats, people in their

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seventies and eighties. You know, they they're still pulling the

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lever and that d because yeah, that's what they did,

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It's what their parents did, It's what their grandparents did.

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The Democrats were the Party of labor, the Party of

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the little guy, all that stuff, and you know now

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they don't realize it's the party of AOC and Bernie

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Sanders and mom Donnie.

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Well, you know, they're so associated with factionalism, Paul, you know,

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which our first president warned us about. Maybe just maybe

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this might be an opportunity for America to do away

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with parties and factions. I don't know, maybe it's just

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so ingrained in this human construct this side of heaven

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that we can't do it. But if we were able

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to truly be unified, we got to get out of

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this partisanship that's going on here.

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And I don't know.

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I mean John Naismith what twenty five years ago, talked

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about the two party system being like two dinosaurs mating.

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And I'll tell you, for the last two dinosaurs, they

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just have found a way, like cockroaches, to grow another

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head and keep mating.

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I guess I don't know.

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Well, I don't know. I mean the dinosaur metaphor, right,

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I mean, I guess you could apply that maybe thirty

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or forty years ago. When when you had I mean

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at one point in the say, mid nineteen seventies, certainly

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before like the Watergate Democrat takeover of Congress, I mean

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you had you had a pretty even split among moderate

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and conservative and liberal Democrats, right, And I mean I

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remember the old days. We had people like Jim Wright

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from Texas, who was Speaker of the House under Reagan. Right,

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I mean, you would never get a Democrat Speaker of

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the House. Now, I mean now they're all Republicans, or

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or at least most of those guys are. And the Republican Party.

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In mid nineteen seventies, you had a lot of liberal Republicans.

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parties are the Republicans, And I like this about my

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Republicans are almost uniformally conservative and the Democrats are almost

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uniformally left wing. It also means, on an issue like abortion,

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you can count on one hand the novel of pro

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life Democrats in Congress. In fact, I don't even think

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you would need one hand. I actually can't name one

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at this point, I can't name even one. Joe Manchin

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wasn't too bad on the issue. He's out. I mean,

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that's how bad they.

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Are, right exactly.

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Yeah, today, rather than being dinosaurs, right, I think the

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parties are kind of almost like t Rex's right to

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Yeah, well maybe they maybe they should to the point

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that they could go extinct once and for all, and

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then maybe we can reconstruct something that is outside of

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back in and you know, gets them back into line. Paul,

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we got about five minutes left here, and you wrote

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something that has been heavy on my heart for a

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long time here. In fact, originally it was spurred on

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by a book by you.

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Would remember Peter Crieft.

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He wrote a great book called Symbol or Substance, which

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was kind of an allegory conversation between C. S. Lewis,

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Billy Graham, and J. R. R. Tolkien and it was

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a dialogue on the Eucharist. And you know, so as

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I have you know further, you know, just you know,

905
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been executing a deeper dive and understanding of what's going on. Recently,

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I discovered through another book that only a third of

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Catholics actually believe that the Eucharist is the body and

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blood of Jesus Christ. And you right, hope we need

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an encyclical on the Eucharist.

910
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Amen, Yeah, yeah, we do because so many Catholics don't

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understand it. And I will say the numbers are better

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for Catholics who go to Mass weekly, but even then

913
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it's not much better. I think if it's a majority,

914
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it's maybe like fifty percent something like that. Daily Mass Catholics.

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For them, part of the reason they go to daily

916
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Mass is because they believe they're receiving the Little Jesus.

917
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But but yeah, but huge numbers of Catholics, especially post

918
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Vatican Two, don't understand what their own church teaches. And

919
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I mean there's a lot I could say about that.

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It even goes down to things like people going up

921
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to receive communion.

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In the hand.

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Right when I was when I first when I when

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I came into the church, when I when I was

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first received holy Communion as a little boy in the

926
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early nineteen seventies, you went up to the rail and

927
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you kneel it, right. You didn't touch that right. But

928
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people today, I mean, you know, you might as well.

929
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You could probably put a drive through on the side

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of the church and call it Mcjesus and have him

931
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932
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plate and have him take it home as a styrofoam container.

933
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No reverence there at all. And yeah, I think that

934
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the new pope who clearly understands the real presence and

935
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has a great reverence for it, especially with his understanding

936
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of Saint Augustine. He calls himself the son of Augustine. Right, exactly, Yeah,

937
00:52:25.559 --> 00:52:27.920
I think he could really do a lot of good

938
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939
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940
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Yeah, you're exactly right, because the thing that the church

941
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has going forward, and I've said this, you know for

942
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years that its sense of holiness has has just been

943
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944
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945
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946
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947
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you know, it's a celebrations, it's it's really uh, it's

948
00:53:09.679 --> 00:53:12.400
just very neat the way they have that. And I

949
00:53:12.440 --> 00:53:15.400
think the Catholics can learn from that, and I think

950
00:53:15.480 --> 00:53:19.599
the Protestants can learn from the reverence of being in

951
00:53:19.639 --> 00:53:21.679
the presence of God and what it is to be

952
00:53:21.760 --> 00:53:24.599
a church because you still go to Catholic Mass and

953
00:53:24.639 --> 00:53:27.280
there is a reference, there's there's quiet. You go to

954
00:53:27.320 --> 00:53:30.679
a Protestant function and it's like, in some cases almost

955
00:53:30.719 --> 00:53:32.119
like you stepped into a night club or.

956
00:53:32.119 --> 00:53:35.639
Something totally totally that's right, with really loud bands and

957
00:53:35.639 --> 00:53:37.519
percussions and it's.

958
00:53:37.360 --> 00:53:38.840
A cauti and all that.

959
00:53:38.960 --> 00:53:39.159
You know.

960
00:53:39.519 --> 00:53:42.119
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. I don't like that lack

961
00:53:42.199 --> 00:53:44.440
of a feeling of a sense of sacred And I

962
00:53:44.480 --> 00:53:46.119
know people say, well, you know, you can go to

963
00:53:46.239 --> 00:53:48.760
Jesus however you want. You can meet your Bible. I know,

964
00:53:49.039 --> 00:53:51.360
I know, but but still when when I go into

965
00:53:51.400 --> 00:53:51.960
a church, but.

966
00:53:52.280 --> 00:53:56.039
Really, really, but Paul, but but would you would you

967
00:53:56.199 --> 00:53:57.159
go to Jesus that way?

968
00:53:57.159 --> 00:53:59.039
I mean, think about it?

969
00:53:59.079 --> 00:54:01.639
And it's like, you know, even like today, I'm sitting here,

970
00:54:01.679 --> 00:54:04.400
I'm looking at the cross there above the altar. I'm

971
00:54:04.400 --> 00:54:08.480
looking at it and I'm saying, what, uh, what an

972
00:54:08.559 --> 00:54:12.599
unreal depiction? Because when Jesus was on the cross, he

973
00:54:12.800 --> 00:54:16.679
was so beaten up and torn apart. But we show

974
00:54:16.760 --> 00:54:19.159
him so clean and yes he's hanging on the cross

975
00:54:19.159 --> 00:54:20.639
and his nails and all that stuff.

976
00:54:20.960 --> 00:54:23.519
But this is the cleaned up version. This is a.

977
00:54:25.440 --> 00:54:28.360
Thank you Lord for what you did for me. Look

978
00:54:28.400 --> 00:54:31.519
at what they did to you, right exactly. And if

979
00:54:31.519 --> 00:54:35.159
you were to meet Jesus in person, you would you

980
00:54:35.159 --> 00:54:39.519
would be on your knees right very before the God,

981
00:54:39.599 --> 00:54:42.320
the Father. Right, you would be on your knees. I think,

982
00:54:42.519 --> 00:54:46.440
I think you would feel innately compelled to drop to

983
00:54:46.519 --> 00:54:51.559
your knees right, even fall prostrate, right, you wouldn't stand

984
00:54:51.599 --> 00:54:54.519
there and you know, you know, play the guitar for him.

985
00:54:55.119 --> 00:54:57.840
Right right, well exactly.

986
00:54:58.239 --> 00:55:02.400
And so again I appreciate what you wrote, and it really,

987
00:55:02.519 --> 00:55:04.840
like I said, it really connected with me because this

988
00:55:04.920 --> 00:55:07.840
is something that I have been in prayer about and

989
00:55:07.920 --> 00:55:11.239
earnestly seeking, because I mean, look at even when Jesus

990
00:55:11.239 --> 00:55:15.320
told the disciples and the apostles that unless you eat

991
00:55:15.360 --> 00:55:19.039
of my body and drink of my blood, you cannot

992
00:55:19.159 --> 00:55:22.079
enter the Kingdom of heaven. People freaked out. They exited

993
00:55:22.079 --> 00:55:25.119
stage left. They couldn't they couldn't comprehend it. They this

994
00:55:25.280 --> 00:55:28.320
was their lack of understanding of Almighty God, right.

995
00:55:28.679 --> 00:55:31.000
And they and Jesus didn't say, wait a second, why

996
00:55:31.000 --> 00:55:34.039
are you leaving. I'm just talking figuratively here, right, I'm

997
00:55:34.079 --> 00:55:36.679
just talking symbolically. Then they've been like, oh, okay, well

998
00:55:36.679 --> 00:55:40.039
that's cool, right, right, right, but that is It's like, no,

999
00:55:40.199 --> 00:55:44.039
I said, you know, this is my flesh. They're like, well,

1000
00:55:44.079 --> 00:55:46.159
we can't accept this. He's like, well, I'm sorry. Then

1001
00:55:46.280 --> 00:55:48.320
you got to go by the way. The passage in

1002
00:55:48.440 --> 00:55:53.239
scripture where they say that is John six six six.

1003
00:55:54.000 --> 00:55:58.000
It's the only three sixes right right in the New Testament.

1004
00:55:58.280 --> 00:56:01.159
And it's at that point that they leave Jesus because

1005
00:56:01.159 --> 00:56:04.960
they won't accept this hard teaching of his right. Yeah,

1006
00:56:05.559 --> 00:56:08.599
Paul and Corinthians says, anybody who doesn't see this as

1007
00:56:08.599 --> 00:56:13.280
the actual body and blood of Christ brings judgment upon himself. Right,

1008
00:56:13.320 --> 00:56:16.760
you profane the Eucharus by seeing it as something other

1009
00:56:16.840 --> 00:56:20.400
than the body and blood. So there's scriptural basis for this.

1010
00:56:21.760 --> 00:56:23.719
Open their hearts and minds and dig in and really

1011
00:56:23.760 --> 00:56:24.280
look at it.

1012
00:56:24.599 --> 00:56:27.239
Well, ladies and gentlemen, dear Pope Leo, we need an

1013
00:56:27.320 --> 00:56:30.559
encyclical on the Eucharus. You can read all about it

1014
00:56:31.039 --> 00:56:34.199
at Crisis Magazine is where it's featured right now, Redpong.

1015
00:56:34.320 --> 00:56:37.480
That's right, yep. Check it out, dear pop Leo. Crisis Magazine.

1016
00:56:37.559 --> 00:56:40.280
That's a great publication. They do two articles per day,

1017
00:56:40.760 --> 00:56:41.719
always good stuff.

1018
00:56:41.960 --> 00:56:46.679
Yeah, crisismagazine dot com. Check it out for yourself, and hey,

1019
00:56:46.760 --> 00:56:49.719
let us know your thoughts. Doctor Paul Kengar, Professor of

1020
00:56:49.719 --> 00:56:52.679
Political Science at Grove City College in Grove City Pencil,

1021
00:56:52.760 --> 00:56:54.440
Vani Paul is always appreciate the time.

1022
00:56:54.440 --> 00:56:55.039
God bless you.

1023
00:56:55.360 --> 00:56:57.440
Take care, God bless Bill. Thanks take care.

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Great to be with you, Bill.

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Patrick is the vice president of State Affairs at Americans

1057
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for Tax Reform. Let's talk about, you know, all things

1058
00:58:40.880 --> 00:58:44.679
elections right now. This is you know, the heat is

1059
00:58:44.960 --> 00:58:48.039
heating up, as they say, as we're ready for the

1060
00:58:48.079 --> 00:58:51.679
elections next week. So break it down, especially when we're

1061
00:58:52.119 --> 00:58:54.800
let's start with New York. That's where the I guess,

1062
00:58:54.800 --> 00:58:57.719
the epicenter of all this seems to be right now, right.

1063
00:58:58.280 --> 00:59:01.039
Yeah, So with the New York New race, it really

1064
00:59:01.039 --> 00:59:04.320
looks like mon Donnie is running away with it. Should

1065
00:59:04.360 --> 00:59:07.000
he win that as polling shows, I think you can

1066
00:59:07.079 --> 00:59:10.199
expect an exodus of New Yorkers to continue out of state.

1067
00:59:10.239 --> 00:59:14.159
That he's an outflow of New Yorkers for many years.

1068
00:59:14.239 --> 00:59:17.199
That's why they've been losing representation in Congress, are projected

1069
00:59:17.199 --> 00:59:19.920
to lose more representation. But Donnie's running on raising the

1070
00:59:19.960 --> 00:59:22.719
income tax in New York City, already one of the

1071
00:59:22.800 --> 00:59:25.719
highest tax jurisdictions in the world. Is also running on

1072
00:59:25.960 --> 00:59:28.800
advocating for a higher corporate tax at a time when

1073
00:59:28.880 --> 00:59:31.719
most other states, both red and blue, are moving to

1074
00:59:31.880 --> 00:59:34.760
reduce or get rid of their state corporate taxes, and

1075
00:59:34.840 --> 00:59:38.280
so he's looking to take an already hostile tax environment

1076
00:59:38.559 --> 00:59:41.400
and make it less competitive and more verdensome. So I

1077
00:59:41.400 --> 00:59:43.559
think that's why we've seen folks like Ron DeSantis and

1078
00:59:43.639 --> 00:59:46.079
others paying attention to this because they know that if

1079
00:59:46.119 --> 00:59:48.760
he wins, as polling shows is likely to occur next week,

1080
00:59:48.960 --> 00:59:50.559
we're going to see a lot of New Yorkers looking

1081
00:59:50.599 --> 00:59:54.159
to hit the exits, not just individuals and families, also employers.

1082
00:59:54.159 --> 00:59:56.400
So that's you know, that's a big one. And you know,

1083
00:59:57.079 --> 00:59:58.239
uh in next door.

1084
00:59:58.639 --> 01:00:01.400
In well well before before we that, let's break down

1085
01:00:01.400 --> 01:00:04.440
New York just a little bit more here, because Mamdanie's

1086
01:00:05.000 --> 01:00:09.000
polling somewhere you know about the mid forties. Okay, New

1087
01:00:09.119 --> 01:00:13.119
York Manhattan is sixty five percent Democrat. That's a tell,

1088
01:00:13.239 --> 01:00:14.159
right there, isn't it?

1089
01:00:15.199 --> 01:00:15.400
You know?

1090
01:00:16.159 --> 01:00:16.360
Yeah?

1091
01:00:16.480 --> 01:00:18.960
I mean we've seen polling that suggests that even a

1092
01:00:18.960 --> 01:00:21.880
lot of Democrats know how extreme he is, I know

1093
01:00:21.920 --> 01:00:24.519
how radical his policies are. So we see some tells.

1094
01:00:24.679 --> 01:00:26.880
We've seen some also some polling showing some signs of

1095
01:00:26.880 --> 01:00:30.960
hope for Cuomo. I certainly wouldn't say it's a done deal,

1096
01:00:31.320 --> 01:00:33.519
but the polling does seem to indicate that he was

1097
01:00:33.639 --> 01:00:35.119
most likely to be the next mayor.

1098
01:00:35.599 --> 01:00:38.840
Well, a lot of Democrats have already inferred that they're

1099
01:00:38.880 --> 01:00:42.079
on a brink of a party's civil war, and I

1100
01:00:42.199 --> 01:00:45.679
got to think that if in fact he is elected

1101
01:00:45.800 --> 01:00:49.519
as mayor of New York, this could really pick up

1102
01:00:49.559 --> 01:00:53.639
some momentum as the Democratic Party, which has been in

1103
01:00:53.639 --> 01:00:56.559
search of an identity since it's lost in twenty twenty four,

1104
01:00:56.599 --> 01:00:57.679
as you know, right.

1105
01:00:58.320 --> 01:01:01.119
Yeah, I think his win by Monday next week could

1106
01:01:01.119 --> 01:01:04.800
solidify the Democratic Party's direction of furthering their focus on

1107
01:01:05.039 --> 01:01:07.199
what we kind of refer as the soak the rich

1108
01:01:07.280 --> 01:01:10.840
mentality really to seek to divide Americans really lean into

1109
01:01:10.840 --> 01:01:14.559
the class warfare, and frankly, we've seen some other inklings

1110
01:01:14.559 --> 01:01:16.719
of that coming out some other major Blue states. Illinois

1111
01:01:16.800 --> 01:01:20.039
lawmakers this week where Democrats have large majorities, introduced to

1112
01:01:20.079 --> 01:01:23.639
state wealth tax this past week. That's also been filed

1113
01:01:23.639 --> 01:01:26.679
in California, and interestingly enough, Gavin Newsom, one of the

1114
01:01:26.679 --> 01:01:28.679
few instances where he has a little bit of sanity,

1115
01:01:29.039 --> 01:01:32.400
has actually been the person opposing the wealth tax introduced

1116
01:01:32.400 --> 01:01:35.000
by California legislators. But I think if Mom Donnie wins

1117
01:01:35.039 --> 01:01:38.199
next week after running on this soak the rich target

1118
01:01:38.320 --> 01:01:41.400
upper income households, I think we will see that you

1119
01:01:41.519 --> 01:01:44.519
continue to solidify on the left and could likely be

1120
01:01:44.599 --> 01:01:48.159
their messaging going into the midterms. One thing to point out, though,

1121
01:01:48.280 --> 01:01:50.920
is that's not mentioned in the soak the rich messaging

1122
01:01:51.039 --> 01:01:53.960
here from Mondani and other Democrats who like to villainize

1123
01:01:54.320 --> 01:01:56.840
people who make above a certain income level. Is you

1124
01:01:56.840 --> 01:01:59.679
don't hear about the tax increases on the top rate.

1125
01:02:00.039 --> 01:02:02.440
Those don't just hit individuals and families, those also hit

1126
01:02:02.480 --> 01:02:07.119
the majority of small businesses under the individual income tax system,

1127
01:02:07.480 --> 01:02:09.280
And so that's something that's not mentioned. This is going

1128
01:02:09.320 --> 01:02:12.639
to be really hammer small businesses in New York should

1129
01:02:12.639 --> 01:02:14.360
he win. And just to highlight, you know, I mentioned

1130
01:02:14.400 --> 01:02:16.519
how New York is already one of the most heavily

1131
01:02:16.559 --> 01:02:19.280
tax jurisdictions in the world, the state as a whole,

1132
01:02:19.280 --> 01:02:21.639
but particularly in New York City even more so. And

1133
01:02:21.960 --> 01:02:23.719
that's also the case because New York is one of

1134
01:02:23.800 --> 01:02:27.039
the few states that does not index their income tax

1135
01:02:27.079 --> 01:02:29.719
brackets for inflation like the federal government does, like the

1136
01:02:29.760 --> 01:02:32.440
beast states do. And so you've seen more and more

1137
01:02:32.480 --> 01:02:35.679
New Yorkers getting ensnared because of inflation by higher rates.

1138
01:02:35.719 --> 01:02:38.320
Just for example, someone who makes ninety thousand dollars in

1139
01:02:38.360 --> 01:02:40.360
New York City, which is not a lot in New

1140
01:02:40.400 --> 01:02:44.280
York City, it's hard to get by. They're paying the

1141
01:02:44.320 --> 01:02:47.199
top rate state and local combined of nine point nine

1142
01:02:47.239 --> 01:02:51.280
percent at that low level. So it's already a rough

1143
01:02:51.320 --> 01:02:53.559
situation for taxpayers in New York, and a mom Domy

1144
01:02:53.639 --> 01:02:56.320
win would make it likely to get worse.

1145
01:02:56.960 --> 01:02:59.320
Well, and the thing is, like Margaret Thatcher said, you know,

1146
01:02:59.440 --> 01:03:02.079
socialist him is fine and well until you run out

1147
01:03:02.119 --> 01:03:05.280
of other people's money. Well, what's happening with a lot

1148
01:03:05.320 --> 01:03:08.320
of as you say, the top one percent of New

1149
01:03:08.400 --> 01:03:12.519
Yorkers they can move, And already you're starting to move.

1150
01:03:12.519 --> 01:03:14.599
In fact, you don't even want to stand close to

1151
01:03:14.639 --> 01:03:18.039
the exits because you're gonna get run over. And as

1152
01:03:18.079 --> 01:03:21.519
people are departing New York just because of the prospect

1153
01:03:21.639 --> 01:03:26.679
that Zoramandami may be elected mayor, because it becomes untenable

1154
01:03:26.760 --> 01:03:30.639
and even affordable for the for the wealthy class, you

1155
01:03:30.719 --> 01:03:35.800
might say. And so what could happen very soon is

1156
01:03:35.840 --> 01:03:38.840
that all the promises that he made, he's going to

1157
01:03:38.880 --> 01:03:40.760
find he didn't have the money to pay for it,

1158
01:03:40.840 --> 01:03:44.840
whether it's bussing or government run stores and you know,

1159
01:03:44.960 --> 01:03:49.599
and everything else that reeks of socialism, right, Yeah, we're.

1160
01:03:49.400 --> 01:03:51.519
Just talking about the new cost that he's looking to

1161
01:03:51.519 --> 01:03:54.480
impose on New Yorkers with new taxes. That's to say

1162
01:03:54.519 --> 01:03:57.159
nothing of how he's going to really harm quality of

1163
01:03:57.199 --> 01:03:58.599
life with some of the things he's going to do

1164
01:03:58.599 --> 01:04:01.199
that with harm public safety, uh in terms of you know,

1165
01:04:01.960 --> 01:04:05.519
possibly reducing police funding or police staffing. So you know,

1166
01:04:05.559 --> 01:04:07.679
we're focused on the taxes and the new cost, but

1167
01:04:07.719 --> 01:04:10.239
there's many other ways in which he's he's poised to

1168
01:04:10.239 --> 01:04:12.440
make quality of life even worse in New York City.

1169
01:04:12.840 --> 01:04:15.760
Well in renphrases. I mean, can you say slum lords?

1170
01:04:16.400 --> 01:04:18.920
I mean, let's send in the slum lords that that

1171
01:04:19.000 --> 01:04:22.599
will naturally happen. I mean, this is this, there's nothing

1172
01:04:22.679 --> 01:04:25.960
new here that's happening. In fact, if the people in

1173
01:04:26.000 --> 01:04:29.119
New York just go and look across the Atlantic and

1174
01:04:29.119 --> 01:04:34.599
see what's happening in Europe, specifically in England. Uh, they're

1175
01:04:34.639 --> 01:04:36.760
in a lot of pain right now because they've been

1176
01:04:36.800 --> 01:04:41.800
suffering from these type of policies that Mamdanie is presenting

1177
01:04:41.960 --> 01:04:45.480
because of you know, the Muslim influence that has taken

1178
01:04:45.559 --> 01:04:47.800
over England for example.

1179
01:04:48.519 --> 01:04:48.719
Yeah.

1180
01:04:48.719 --> 01:04:51.239
Well, and what might be bad from New York City

1181
01:04:51.320 --> 01:04:55.960
is to Texas's advantage because we've seen Texas, which recently

1182
01:04:56.000 --> 01:04:58.760
set up its own stock exchange. You know, should New

1183
01:04:58.840 --> 01:05:01.159
York elect a socialist may is going to raise taxes.

1184
01:05:01.920 --> 01:05:03.440
You know, that's only going to be good for not

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only states like Florida and Tennessee, but also states like

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Texas and particularly who's looking to beef up a financial

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sector there with their new stock exchange. And not only

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do you have New York poys to go in an

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even higher tax, more heavy regulation direction under my man Dami,

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but the same day next week, you could have Texas

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voters of proving a slew of new measures further reducing

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Well, we'll have to see what happens is they say

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this is going to be a situation. I mean, if

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the people in New York really want to take control,

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they've got to come out and vote. But based on

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the numbers traditionally, you know, for the mayor orals race,

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it's amazing that somebody can get the mayor's office with

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with less than a million votes, it does.

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Seem like New York is poised to serve as a

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national bad example for everybody to avoid.

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Right exactly.

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And okay, let's go and let's take a look at

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at Virginia.

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So Virginia, you know, you got the guminatorial race and

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the AG's race that's going to be a longer shot there.

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Pulling shows that to be about a ten point difference.

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So there's a big contrast and direction they want to

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go to on policy, particularly tax policy, between win Some

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Sears and Abigail Spanberger, although it's going to be a

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lot longer shot, and the attorney General's race fortunately does

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look like Jason Miarz. The incumbent is pulling away from

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Democrat Jay Jones, and that's just great news, because what

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Virginia looks to be a little tougher ten points, But

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it's a much different story in New Jersey, where it

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We're back by the Thanks for hanging in there.

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I'm Bill martineze'z Patrick Leeson, the vice president of State

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Affairs at Americans for Tax Reform, going back and discussing

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what's going on in Vergin. I thought wins series is

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a great candidate, you know, following up uh, you know,

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from a successful UH leadership of Governor Young Youngkin. And

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it's amazing because it seems like the same things that

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were in play when Youngkin got elected are still in play.

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We're still trying to decide who gets into boys and

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girls restrooms and who's going to compete, and the compromise

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on and UH impediment on you know, Title nine and

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that sort of thing. This is amazing to me that

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new that Virginia, particularly that they're rehashing this all over again.

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It is hard to understand given as you mentioned, how

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many of the same issues are in play that propelled

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youngin to victory, especially with the things involving you know,

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bathroom policy in the schools, particularly in Northern Virginia. And

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that Spamberger does not have a good answer for that.

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She does not even have a good answer every time

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she's pressed on what she thinks about letting boys and

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play in girls' sports, and so it's it's hard to

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think how she could prevail given her inability to provide

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an answer to such an easy question, and especially given

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how those questions pull. But I think a lot of

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it is just indicative of how much bluer Virginia is.

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That a lot of than conventional wisdom is. I think

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a lot of people still see Virginia is a is

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a very purple state, and it's actually think it's really

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going to become more of a much more bluish purple

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to particularly almost even a full blue state at this point.

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A lot of it influenced certainly by you know, uh

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government uh and government contractors concentration for the Virginia area

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outside d C. So it's hard to see how they

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how Virginia voters could go with Spamburger given what we know.

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But I do think it's just indicative of how much

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bluer the state is than a lot of people think.

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You would think the shutdown would have a little bit

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more effect on.

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It I'm glad you mentioned that, because you would think

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it would assuming they would, you know, voters would blame

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the party that is shutting down the government, Democrats. Although

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while the shutdown is certainly unpopular, particularly in northern Virginia

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where you have a lot of government workers and contractors,

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I'm unsure as to who they're actually blaming, whether they're

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blaming the party that deserves it, or whether some tribalism

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is kicked in and they just are assuming it's Republicans.

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Who are right, Yeah, exactly. Well, Plus, you know, I

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mean I look at Spamber. To me, she's not a

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very impressive candidate on the face. I mean I watch her,

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I hear her responses, and uh, it just seems very

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empty and hollow.

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I don't know that and that might sound.

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Too critical, and I apologize for that, but that's just

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my impression.

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No, yeah, no, I mean it's that's not only you.

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It's been my impression as well. Talking to others. It's

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been kind of amazed at that we're losing to this,

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and so it just it speaks to you know, the

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importance of candidate quality, but also you question how given

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their Democrats are in such a candidate of low quality.

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You know, how there's how she's still pulling so well.

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And I just think a lot of it is how

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blue the state is, and also just how much you know,

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a lot of this is tribalism is ingrained, and and

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there's not as many persuadable voters perhaps as there were

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in the past.

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Is when some serious getting the support that she needs

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from the National Republican Committee.

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You know, I can't speak to that. I can't speak

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to that.

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It smells it smells a little bit like that, only

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because it's kind of like you know, I think the

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Republicans have always been because you know, just like you said,

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they look at Virginia, it's you know, government contractors, a

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01:15:43.279 --> 01:15:46.720
lot of government money there. They've just kind of surrendered it.

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And then Youngkein, you know, with his command of a message,

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was able to turn that around. And now you've got

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a Republican governor beating somebody as strong as Terry mccaulliffe

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the last time around. And and I'm just that the

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Republicans have just gotten into their traditional manner of well,

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we don't really you know, we were lucky to get

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it with Younkin win some serious although I see her

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as a better candidate than spam Burger. But that's just me,

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and I just think that maybe she's not getting the

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support that she should have gotten in much the same

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you've got one Republican candidate and Curtis Sleewell, and they

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basically kind of just said, well, you know, he's really

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a non factor, even though I think he's up over

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twenty percent in his polling and he could very well.

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Some will blame him if Mom Donnie gets elected in

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saying that, you know, he blocked out Cuomo, forgetting the

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fact that Cuomo kind of blocked himself out. But that aside,

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I'm just saying the Republican Party is surrendering ground. They

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shouldn't surrender, I mean, because you still have I don't know,

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01:16:57.680 --> 01:16:59.479
maybe thirty five percent.

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You know overall in New York that are Republican, and

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you're kind of abandoning and you're not even putting up

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that you know, this comes into play.

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01:17:20.039 --> 01:17:22.199
So I can't speak to it myself. Because I haven't

1420
01:17:22.199 --> 01:17:23.760
been following, you know, in terms of the support that's

1421
01:17:23.760 --> 01:17:26.039
coming from the National Committee. So I can't speak to

1422
01:17:26.079 --> 01:17:29.840
it myself. But I have heard that concern, the one

1423
01:17:29.880 --> 01:17:33.079
you're expressing, shared by others. I just myself haven't looked

1424
01:17:33.079 --> 01:17:35.800
at it enough to determine whether there's anything to it.

1425
01:17:36.079 --> 01:17:38.439
That said, I think it's worth regardless of what happens

1426
01:17:38.479 --> 01:17:40.960
next week, taking a look at seeing, you know, we're

1427
01:17:41.079 --> 01:17:44.960
resources deployed properly, whether it's by RGA or RNC or others,

1428
01:17:45.800 --> 01:17:49.239
what could have been done differently to achieve a better outcome.

1429
01:17:50.319 --> 01:17:52.399
That's certainly something to be worth looking at. I can't

1430
01:17:52.399 --> 01:17:55.079
speak to it right now at this time, although I do.

1431
01:17:55.239 --> 01:17:59.880
I mean, you got to think just if she pulling

1432
01:18:00.039 --> 01:18:01.840
had been looking better for her, it might have drawn

1433
01:18:01.880 --> 01:18:04.119
some more resources people thinking it was a better shot.

1434
01:18:04.560 --> 01:18:06.640
That said, nothing to do about that now. So I

1435
01:18:06.680 --> 01:18:09.159
think it's well, I can't speak to it. I think

1436
01:18:09.199 --> 01:18:12.119
it's definitely something that should be looked at after the fact,

1437
01:18:12.159 --> 01:18:14.800
to do a little autopsy and see how we deployed

1438
01:18:14.840 --> 01:18:17.359
resources and whether that was could have been done better.

1439
01:18:17.640 --> 01:18:20.319
Well, I and maybe you agree with me or not,

1440
01:18:20.479 --> 01:18:22.359
but I just don't think we should surrender ground.

1441
01:18:23.439 --> 01:18:25.640
No, I mean, I think it's important to field candidates

1442
01:18:25.640 --> 01:18:28.039
and to fight as hard as you can. And that's

1443
01:18:28.039 --> 01:18:30.279
why it's important. You know, for example, I know in

1444
01:18:30.319 --> 01:18:33.199
a number of states, state parties had made a point

1445
01:18:33.199 --> 01:18:36.000
I'm making sure, particularly in state legislative races, that they

1446
01:18:36.039 --> 01:18:38.520
have a candidate in every one of those races, so

1447
01:18:38.560 --> 01:18:41.640
they're not conceding any races. For example, in North Carolina,

1448
01:18:41.680 --> 01:18:44.800
where Republicans have super majorities in the legislature for a

1449
01:18:44.840 --> 01:18:46.880
long time, back when Democrats are in the state for

1450
01:18:46.920 --> 01:18:49.159
a century, up until about ten years fifteen years ago,

1451
01:18:49.479 --> 01:18:52.000
there was races where Republicans woudn't even feel a candidate

1452
01:18:52.039 --> 01:18:54.960
and they realized that's unacceptable because we don't even have

1453
01:18:54.960 --> 01:18:58.319
a fighting chance that in that district. And so that's

1454
01:18:58.319 --> 01:19:03.000
something they rectified. Their states have rectified. Uh, it's paid dividends.

1455
01:19:03.000 --> 01:19:05.760
So I think you're right. I mean, it's important to

1456
01:19:05.800 --> 01:19:07.520
not not concede and not give up.

1457
01:19:08.600 --> 01:19:10.640
But also well, and it's not it's not like you

1458
01:19:10.720 --> 01:19:13.359
got some awful president right now in the oval office.

1459
01:19:13.479 --> 01:19:15.760
You got a president that's getting a lot of wins,

1460
01:19:16.159 --> 01:19:19.079
and there's a lot of lots of positive messaging that's

1461
01:19:19.119 --> 01:19:22.079
coming out of there, and I think that that needs

1462
01:19:22.119 --> 01:19:26.079
to be carried through and promoted whenever possible. Let's go

1463
01:19:26.159 --> 01:19:31.680
and uh review what's happening in New Jersey. On the

1464
01:19:31.760 --> 01:19:34.640
other hand, You've got a great candidate there and uh

1465
01:19:34.760 --> 01:19:36.720
and they're going ahead and head and it looks like,

1466
01:19:37.279 --> 01:19:39.000
you know, it's it's a toss up.

1467
01:19:40.079 --> 01:19:43.560
Yeah, neck and neck. Really exciting to see what could

1468
01:19:43.600 --> 01:19:46.199
happen there. If Chita really wins, it's going to make

1469
01:19:46.199 --> 01:19:49.159
a huge difference in terms of policy. A couple examples.

1470
01:19:49.199 --> 01:19:50.680
I mean, aside from the fact that he's not going

1471
01:19:50.720 --> 01:19:53.720
to raise any taxes, as he's in fact he's.

1472
01:19:53.640 --> 01:19:56.279
Well, it'll be aw it'll be a shorter exit out

1473
01:19:56.279 --> 01:19:58.640
of New York. Then you know, you'll have New Yorkers

1474
01:19:58.680 --> 01:20:01.199
going to New Jersey as APO those to you know,

1475
01:20:01.279 --> 01:20:03.880
Florida or Texas or you know, Tennessee.

1476
01:20:04.279 --> 01:20:08.000
Shouldarelly win next Tuesday, would make New Jersey a very

1477
01:20:08.039 --> 01:20:12.199
convenient close by haven for New Yorkers to escape to. Certainly,

1478
01:20:12.880 --> 01:20:15.319
it could also have a great impact for New Jerseys

1479
01:20:15.319 --> 01:20:17.119
and their own right. Aside from the fact that he's

1480
01:20:17.119 --> 01:20:18.600
not going to raise taxes, he's going to look to

1481
01:20:18.600 --> 01:20:20.840
lower them. He's also said he wants to get the

1482
01:20:20.880 --> 01:20:22.920
state pulled the state out of the regional cap and

1483
01:20:22.920 --> 01:20:25.640
Trade program it's a member of which is called a

1484
01:20:25.800 --> 01:20:29.640
Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative REGGIE or it's an academic and

1485
01:20:29.640 --> 01:20:32.159
what it does is it access as a regressive tax hike,

1486
01:20:32.479 --> 01:20:35.920
hurting low income households the poorest by raising their utility bills. Well,

1487
01:20:36.119 --> 01:20:38.760
Chitdarelly has said he's going to pull New Jersey out

1488
01:20:38.760 --> 01:20:41.279
of that, just like Youngkin took steps to do in Virginia.

1489
01:20:41.520 --> 01:20:43.039
Chita really said he's going to do the same. So

1490
01:20:43.079 --> 01:20:44.720
not only is he going to stand in the way

1491
01:20:44.760 --> 01:20:46.800
a tax increases and seek to lower them in fact,

1492
01:20:47.000 --> 01:20:49.319
but he's going to look to reduce energy bills by

1493
01:20:49.319 --> 01:20:52.319
getting the state out of this cap and trade program again,

1494
01:20:52.359 --> 01:20:54.840
which is just this regulatory regime that acts as a

1495
01:20:54.880 --> 01:20:55.880
regressive tax hike.

1496
01:20:56.520 --> 01:20:57.479
Exactly. Yeah.

1497
01:20:57.520 --> 01:21:02.920
I mean, when you talk about messaging, Chennarelli's messaging has

1498
01:21:02.960 --> 01:21:06.119
been very strong and consistent. I think this is what

1499
01:21:06.199 --> 01:21:10.279
has caused the gap to you know, become so tight

1500
01:21:10.319 --> 01:21:12.319
to where people are saying, hey, this is going to

1501
01:21:12.359 --> 01:21:13.479
be a long night next week.

1502
01:21:13.560 --> 01:21:16.079
Right. Yeah, And he's done a good job of drilling

1503
01:21:16.079 --> 01:21:19.039
in just concrete, real life examples that people can understand

1504
01:21:19.319 --> 01:21:22.279
of how the Democrat majority in New Jersey has harmed them,

1505
01:21:22.279 --> 01:21:25.199
not just the taxes, but regulations. He's been pointing out

1506
01:21:25.359 --> 01:21:28.359
he's going to undo the states ban their prohibition on

1507
01:21:28.479 --> 01:21:32.039
plastic shopping bags that they instituted. He's going to get

1508
01:21:32.119 --> 01:21:34.520
rid of that and actually, in fact talking about all

1509
01:21:34.560 --> 01:21:37.840
time backfire. Study was put out last year. Since New

1510
01:21:37.920 --> 01:21:42.640
Jersey implemented their plastic bag ban, plastic usage has tripled

1511
01:21:42.960 --> 01:21:46.359
because people because those people weren't just using those shopping

1512
01:21:46.359 --> 01:21:49.279
bags one time, they were reusing them. Instead, they're using

1513
01:21:49.319 --> 01:21:52.439
the thicker, reusable bags, but they don't necessarily use those bags.

1514
01:21:52.479 --> 01:21:54.279
A lot of those get thrown out, So a study

1515
01:21:54.359 --> 01:21:58.039
was done. Plastic usage is up, and so these feel

1516
01:21:58.079 --> 01:22:00.039
good things that harm people and don't even have the

1517
01:22:00.079 --> 01:22:02.960
benefits people claim to like this should it really zeroing

1518
01:22:03.000 --> 01:22:04.600
in on those. In fact, he said he's been getting

1519
01:22:04.600 --> 01:22:07.279
a better response from crows when he says he's going

1520
01:22:07.319 --> 01:22:09.680
to bring back shopping bags than when he said he's

1521
01:22:09.680 --> 01:22:10.319
going to cut down.

1522
01:22:11.159 --> 01:22:14.359
Yeah, it's there's just something about the Democrats. They're famous

1523
01:22:14.359 --> 01:22:16.319
for unintended consequences, right.

1524
01:22:17.079 --> 01:22:19.760
Yeah, yeah, We've seen it in a number of other instances.

1525
01:22:19.760 --> 01:22:21.319
I mean you look at what they did with when

1526
01:22:21.920 --> 01:22:24.039
when they raise capital gains tax. When they've done that

1527
01:22:24.079 --> 01:22:26.039
in the past, collections go down.

1528
01:22:26.319 --> 01:22:28.399
So yeah, right, go figure.

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Patrick Leeson and Vice President of State Affairs at Americans

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for Tax Reform.

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Patrick, thanks for being with us. Take care, have a

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Welcome back America, Bill Martinez here. Great to have you

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with us. So we're going to have doctor Shiesh Banchal

1605
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join us in just a moment to talk about the

1606
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American Heart Association's twenty twenty five CPR guidelines to help parents, caregivers,

1607
01:26:57.239 --> 01:27:01.119
and bystanders act with confidence because, as we know, every

1608
01:27:01.199 --> 01:27:04.479
second matters in an emergency. Each year, believe it or not,

1609
01:27:04.680 --> 01:27:07.640
more than three hundred and fifty thousand people in the

1610
01:27:07.760 --> 01:27:11.920
US experience a cardiac arrest outside of the hospital, and

1611
01:27:12.079 --> 01:27:16.439
ninety percent don't survive. And many of these cardiac emergencies

1612
01:27:16.479 --> 01:27:20.479
stem from choking, drowning, or opioid overdose. That's why the

1613
01:27:20.479 --> 01:27:24.720
American Heart Association is releasing it's twenty twenty five guidelines

1614
01:27:24.760 --> 01:27:29.800
for CPR in Emergency Cardiovascular Care. As I mentioned, doctor

1615
01:27:29.960 --> 01:27:33.000
shus Panchali is with us to talk more about it.

1616
01:27:33.680 --> 01:27:34.920
Doctor, good to have you with us.

1617
01:27:34.960 --> 01:27:38.119
How are you, sir, I'm very well, Thanks so much

1618
01:27:38.119 --> 01:27:39.239
for having me well.

1619
01:27:39.279 --> 01:27:42.039
I'm excited to talk about this because, as we know,

1620
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when it comes to cardiac arrest, as I stayed in

1621
01:27:44.359 --> 01:27:47.000
the opening, seconds matter, right.

1622
01:27:48.079 --> 01:27:51.000
That is the truth. Every second matters, and every second

1623
01:27:51.039 --> 01:27:54.720
someone does not get a chest compression, it just it's

1624
01:27:54.760 --> 01:27:57.399
devastating when it comes to the fact that they were

1625
01:27:57.439 --> 01:27:59.760
probably going to die if we don't do something.

1626
01:28:00.560 --> 01:28:05.279
Well, that number ninety percent don't survive outside of the

1627
01:28:05.319 --> 01:28:10.199
hospital's that's huge and what makes it stand out more

1628
01:28:10.239 --> 01:28:13.880
and I imagine for you because you've been. You know,

1629
01:28:13.920 --> 01:28:16.840
you've been all over this and studying this is saying that,

1630
01:28:17.199 --> 01:28:19.279
look at it doesn't have to be that high.

1631
01:28:19.359 --> 01:28:20.600
We can do something about it.

1632
01:28:20.720 --> 01:28:25.319
Right, That's exactly true. So, as a volunteer and a

1633
01:28:25.319 --> 01:28:27.840
guideline writer from American Heart Association, we've been looking at

1634
01:28:27.840 --> 01:28:30.000
this for years and years and years, and the one

1635
01:28:30.079 --> 01:28:32.359
thing that we keep coming back to is the fact

1636
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that this ten percent rate doesn't need to be ten

1637
01:28:34.880 --> 01:28:40.479
percent because CPR alone increases your survival by two to threefold.

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And what we need to do is get people engaged

1639
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and really into action to make it happen.

1640
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And learning about CPR even you know, I recommend and

1641
01:28:49.359 --> 01:28:53.720
have said this just routinely. Doc, is that even it's

1642
01:28:53.760 --> 01:28:57.800
been a while since you've taken a CPR you know,

1643
01:28:59.079 --> 01:29:02.399
training session. I mean, it's a no brainer, right, And

1644
01:29:03.000 --> 01:29:05.640
you could say you could save lives by doing.

1645
01:29:05.359 --> 01:29:10.319
That, Yeah, definitely, And I would definitely say that, especially

1646
01:29:10.359 --> 01:29:12.920
if you haven't been trained recently. This is the time

1647
01:29:13.359 --> 01:29:16.600
the new American Heart Association Guidelines really bring the newest

1648
01:29:16.640 --> 01:29:21.960
science to everyone, lay rescuers, healthcare professionals. These twenty twenty

1649
01:29:21.960 --> 01:29:26.800
five guidelines update the life saving recommendations and that runs

1650
01:29:26.800 --> 01:29:30.680
the gambit. It goes everywhere from cardiac arrest to choking

1651
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to opioid overdose. And the big thing is we make

1652
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it so much easier for everyone to remember and to use.

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Right.

1654
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Well, give us, you know, help us out to help

1655
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help us remember what's what's the key phrase here? To

1656
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help us remember these techniques once we've learned them, that

1657
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we keep them up to date and keep them top

1658
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of mind.

1659
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I love that the how Yeah, there are simple steps

1660
01:29:57.640 --> 01:30:01.000
that we all need to know when it comes to emergencies.

1661
01:30:01.000 --> 01:30:03.079
And I'm gonna give you three key ones. So let's

1662
01:30:03.119 --> 01:30:07.279
start with cardiac arrest first. If someone suddenly collapses in

1663
01:30:07.319 --> 01:30:10.760
front of you, perform hands only CPR. And this is

1664
01:30:10.760 --> 01:30:13.600
for our adulton team that it's really straightforward. Call nine

1665
01:30:13.640 --> 01:30:16.199
to one one and push hard and fast in the

1666
01:30:16.199 --> 01:30:19.960
center of the chest. That it's that simple. How about choking?

1667
01:30:20.039 --> 01:30:21.800
What do you do for choking? This is a big

1668
01:30:21.880 --> 01:30:25.720
update that's occurred in these guidelines this time. What we

1669
01:30:25.760 --> 01:30:29.920
want you to do is repeated cycles of five back

1670
01:30:29.960 --> 01:30:34.199
blows followed by five abdominal thrusts. Now there's a caveat

1671
01:30:34.279 --> 01:30:38.279
for infants. Instead of doing the abdominal thrust. What we

1672
01:30:38.319 --> 01:30:40.479
want you guys to do is five back blows and

1673
01:30:40.600 --> 01:30:44.399
five chests thrusts so that we can maintain and keep

1674
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those vulnerable abdomens safe for our infants. The last key

1675
01:30:48.600 --> 01:30:50.840
area that I want to touch based on is the

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opioid epidemic. So one of the key factors that we

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realized is to save more lives from suspected overdose. Focus

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on using the locks are narcan and this will save

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those lives, recognize the emergency and be ready to help.

1680
01:31:06.159 --> 01:31:08.760
Exactly what are the other key updates in this twenty

1681
01:31:08.800 --> 01:31:13.159
twenty five CPR and Emergency care guidelines Doctor sheeesh.

1682
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Yeah.

1683
01:31:14.840 --> 01:31:16.880
So one of the other big key updates is really

1684
01:31:16.920 --> 01:31:20.079
looking at the chain of survival. It's a consolidated chain

1685
01:31:20.119 --> 01:31:24.119
of survival, which really focuses on making sure that we

1686
01:31:24.159 --> 01:31:27.760
all understand those life saving steps that we're all in

1687
01:31:27.800 --> 01:31:31.039
the shame same sheet music. This is our lay rescuers

1688
01:31:31.079 --> 01:31:33.840
as well as our healthcare providers. We all think about

1689
01:31:33.840 --> 01:31:37.239
the same steps, and for lay rescuers, we want to

1690
01:31:37.279 --> 01:31:40.800
emphasize their key role in saving these lives. So the

1691
01:31:40.840 --> 01:31:45.000
first three steps the first one recognition and emergency response

1692
01:31:45.399 --> 01:31:49.760
immediately call nine one one second, start high quality CPR,

1693
01:31:50.079 --> 01:31:51.920
push hard and fast in the center of the chest.

1694
01:31:52.119 --> 01:31:57.000
And third, defibrillate. Get an AED, and that AED will

1695
01:31:57.000 --> 01:31:59.319
not only coach you in what you're doing with CPR,

1696
01:31:59.600 --> 01:32:03.000
but also deliver a shock that's needed. These three steps

1697
01:32:03.039 --> 01:32:05.279
are the same across the board, and if we do

1698
01:32:05.319 --> 01:32:08.520
it quickly, we will change that survival rate.

1699
01:32:09.119 --> 01:32:11.159
Well, doctor, as you know, in the chain of survival,

1700
01:32:11.920 --> 01:32:14.319
you got to know where you are in that chain

1701
01:32:14.479 --> 01:32:16.720
right to play the role. If you're the one to

1702
01:32:16.800 --> 01:32:19.279
make the nine to one one call, that's that's your part,

1703
01:32:19.359 --> 01:32:21.960
that's that's your link in the chain, and that's key.

1704
01:32:22.039 --> 01:32:22.239
Right.

1705
01:32:22.479 --> 01:32:25.399
If you are the one that is, you know, putting

1706
01:32:25.439 --> 01:32:28.920
compression chess compressions on, then that's another link. If you're

1707
01:32:28.960 --> 01:32:33.479
the one to access you know, the emergency equipment there

1708
01:32:33.520 --> 01:32:36.359
that's available, your key to that chain of survival.

1709
01:32:36.439 --> 01:32:36.680
Right.

1710
01:32:38.000 --> 01:32:41.119
That is exactly correct, And so much of that is integrated.

1711
01:32:41.199 --> 01:32:41.359
Right.

1712
01:32:41.399 --> 01:32:43.920
So if you're the first person there you're calling nine

1713
01:32:43.960 --> 01:32:46.840
one one and starting compressions, that's two chains right there,

1714
01:32:47.119 --> 01:32:49.000
and then you might tell somebody else to go get

1715
01:32:49.039 --> 01:32:52.600
the AED. Right, So so much of it is coordinated

1716
01:32:52.640 --> 01:32:57.439
by just one person's intention to act one person's ability

1717
01:32:57.479 --> 01:32:58.479
to really focus on this.

1718
01:32:59.039 --> 01:32:59.680
Now are you?

1719
01:32:59.720 --> 01:33:01.720
And I mean you've been working at this for a

1720
01:33:01.720 --> 01:33:05.960
long time as an associate professor Emergency Medicine at Ohio

1721
01:33:06.000 --> 01:33:09.239
State University's Wexner Medical Center. Am I supposed to put

1722
01:33:09.239 --> 01:33:11.039
my hand over my heart and say at the Ohio

1723
01:33:11.079 --> 01:33:11.720
State University?

1724
01:33:11.760 --> 01:33:14.279
Am I supposed to do that? You know it?

1725
01:33:14.279 --> 01:33:15.880
It's we know.

1726
01:33:15.880 --> 01:33:18.960
The Ohio State number one. We got that so far.

1727
01:33:19.359 --> 01:33:23.479
And also he's the chair of the AHA Emergency Cardiovascular

1728
01:33:23.520 --> 01:33:26.680
Care Science Committee and we're so blessed to have doctor

1729
01:33:26.720 --> 01:33:30.880
Asheesh with us to talk about this. But in terms

1730
01:33:30.920 --> 01:33:35.880
of the in terms of the steps that parents and

1731
01:33:35.960 --> 01:33:39.560
caregivers and bystanders take, and we've kind of touched on that,

1732
01:33:39.760 --> 01:33:42.039
but let's expand a little bit more and clarify that.

1733
01:33:42.079 --> 01:33:42.479
Go ahead.

1734
01:33:43.840 --> 01:33:46.960
Yeah, So when we think about the steps as family members,

1735
01:33:47.199 --> 01:33:49.159
one of the things we have to keep in mind

1736
01:33:49.439 --> 01:33:52.640
is so many of these emergencies actually happen in the homes.

1737
01:33:52.840 --> 01:33:55.680
So this is your moms, your dads, your aunts and uncles. Right,

1738
01:33:55.880 --> 01:33:58.039
So when you think about that holiday dinnery, when you

1739
01:33:58.039 --> 01:34:01.880
think about Thanksgiving or Christmas dinner, these events can happen there,

1740
01:34:01.920 --> 01:34:04.119
but it's a great time for us to also have

1741
01:34:04.159 --> 01:34:07.000
a discussion to be ready. And so when we go

1742
01:34:07.159 --> 01:34:09.720
back and think about the different steps we talked about earlier,

1743
01:34:10.000 --> 01:34:12.520
When we think about cardiac arrest, we think about hands

1744
01:34:12.520 --> 01:34:15.439
only CPR, it's not hard to talk about call nine

1745
01:34:15.479 --> 01:34:17.520
one one, push hard and fast in the center of

1746
01:34:17.520 --> 01:34:20.520
the chest. We got that. When it comes to choking,

1747
01:34:21.119 --> 01:34:23.920
we know that people are going to choke on that turkey, right,

1748
01:34:23.960 --> 01:34:26.680
that happens, right, So think about the fact that if

1749
01:34:26.680 --> 01:34:30.239
someone chokes five back blows five a domino thrust for

1750
01:34:30.359 --> 01:34:34.319
our adults and our children. And of course, unfortunately with

1751
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the opiate epidemic, we know that we need to be

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prepared because we never know when that's going to strike

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our families or our friends. And having that in the

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to save someone's life. What about training sessions, Oh, great point.

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So throughout our community there's always training sessions. But if

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you want to learn more right now, go to heart

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It's a huge movement to change the dynamics so that

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01:35:14.319 --> 01:35:17.199
we're all engaged in this. There you'll find some great

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information about getting engaged in your local communities. You'll also

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see lots of information about learning how to do CPR,

1767
01:35:24.560 --> 01:35:27.319
from hands only CPR to full classes. This can be

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at your fire department, this can be at your community center.

1769
01:35:30.319 --> 01:35:33.800
This is readily available. But keep in mind one of

1770
01:35:33.800 --> 01:35:36.439
the key things is this could be a family member.

1771
01:35:36.600 --> 01:35:39.199
So the person that you might be saving is the

1772
01:35:39.199 --> 01:35:40.119
one of your loved ones.

1773
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Doctor finchall, what about you know, we see a lot

1774
01:35:43.199 --> 01:35:46.000
of advertisements, you know for people who are choking this

1775
01:35:46.039 --> 01:35:48.640
little device kind of a suction cup device.

1776
01:35:49.119 --> 01:35:50.600
What's your recommendation on that.

1777
01:35:51.880 --> 01:35:54.119
So that's a great question. So one of the big

1778
01:35:54.239 --> 01:35:57.920
challenges that we have is there's always a device, and

1779
01:35:58.000 --> 01:35:59.319
one of the big things that we need to know

1780
01:35:59.359 --> 01:36:02.840
about devices are that they're proven to be effective. And

1781
01:36:02.880 --> 01:36:04.600
one of the things that we did when we reviewed

1782
01:36:04.600 --> 01:36:06.479
it this last time is we looked at some of

1783
01:36:06.520 --> 01:36:08.880
these device and there just isn't enough data for us

1784
01:36:08.920 --> 01:36:12.119
to recommend the use of these devices. And that's important

1785
01:36:12.159 --> 01:36:14.199
to think about is that if you're going to get

1786
01:36:14.199 --> 01:36:17.239
a device or use something, make sure it's something that

1787
01:36:17.439 --> 01:36:20.039
there's great data around that you know it's going to

1788
01:36:20.079 --> 01:36:23.319
save a life, because sometimes even getting to use these

1789
01:36:23.399 --> 01:36:26.359
kind of devices can distract from the things that actually

1790
01:36:26.439 --> 01:36:28.159
work well.

1791
01:36:28.159 --> 01:36:30.920
Doctor Shishpinshal has been our guest. He's a physician and

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01:36:30.960 --> 01:36:35.720
Associate professor of Emergency Medicine at the Ohio State University's

1793
01:36:35.760 --> 01:36:37.119
Wexter Medical Center.

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01:36:37.640 --> 01:36:37.760
Doc.

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As we wrap things up, remind everybody where they can

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go for more information.

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Definitely my pleasure. So the place you need to go

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is got hop out of the Internet and learn more

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I love it. Doctor Frinchalle, thank you so much for

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Take care, it is my pleasure. Thank you again.

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the process that they manufacture and suggest.

1893
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It might be right.

1894
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No, no turn ducin, no, no tofurkey, none of that stuff.

1895
01:41:47.479 --> 01:41:51.159
All right, you're you're whipping up my taste buds already. Hey,

1896
01:41:52.159 --> 01:41:55.479
you know what's happening in Adam Holtz world and all

1897
01:41:55.520 --> 01:41:58.720
that's you know, I'm with our culture right now. It's uh,

1898
01:41:58.760 --> 01:42:01.920
you know, people are talking a lot about what's happening

1899
01:42:01.960 --> 01:42:03.600
in New York City. I mean, you say, well, that's

1900
01:42:03.640 --> 01:42:07.359
New York City. It shouldn't have any consequence here. But really,

1901
01:42:07.840 --> 01:42:11.239
for a mayoral race in New York City, the conversation

1902
01:42:11.640 --> 01:42:14.800
is going to across the country because this is quite

1903
01:42:14.840 --> 01:42:15.319
a tell.

1904
01:42:15.279 --> 01:42:19.399
Huh it is? And obviously, you know what, I'm not

1905
01:42:19.439 --> 01:42:22.119
sure I've heard anybody actually say his name. Can you

1906
01:42:22.159 --> 01:42:23.960
pronounce his name for me because I don't want to

1907
01:42:23.960 --> 01:42:29.520
get it it? Zorhan Zorn Mamdani Mamdani. Yeah, So you

1908
01:42:29.560 --> 01:42:35.239
know he is somebody who has quite well, I mean

1909
01:42:35.800 --> 01:42:39.000
he's a socialist sort of unapologetically. That's not some sort

1910
01:42:39.039 --> 01:42:41.960
of right wing smear on him. I mean that's where

1911
01:42:42.000 --> 01:42:45.039
he's coming from. And I think the bigger to me,

1912
01:42:45.119 --> 01:42:50.359
the bigger question here, or the bigger story is man.

1913
01:42:50.479 --> 01:42:54.960
I mean, I grew up in the eighties, right socialism

1914
01:42:55.159 --> 01:42:59.079
was not an aspirational worldview, and I feel like we

1915
01:42:59.199 --> 01:43:07.039
have generations of people who have now forgotten that socialism

1916
01:43:07.079 --> 01:43:10.840
has been tried, want and found wanting over and over

1917
01:43:11.039 --> 01:43:14.800
and over again as a way of doing things, because

1918
01:43:14.960 --> 01:43:18.880
it's one of those things that in the abstract can

1919
01:43:18.920 --> 01:43:22.359
look good on paper. Like I get the appeal from

1920
01:43:22.479 --> 01:43:25.880
just a purely abstract standpoint. You know, we want to

1921
01:43:25.880 --> 01:43:28.079
take care of people, we want to make sure everybody

1922
01:43:28.159 --> 01:43:33.039
has equal access to equal everything. But in reality what

1923
01:43:33.119 --> 01:43:36.680
you get is an oligarchy of people who have their

1924
01:43:36.720 --> 01:43:39.960
own rules at the top, and everybody else has to

1925
01:43:40.000 --> 01:43:44.359
submit to rules that mostly end up doing all kinds

1926
01:43:44.399 --> 01:43:47.920
of damage as those at the top try hard to

1927
01:43:48.000 --> 01:43:52.439
pretend that oh no, no, that's not what's happening. And

1928
01:43:52.439 --> 01:43:54.600
as I've talked to my kids about this, I say, look,

1929
01:43:55.439 --> 01:44:01.520
capitalism can be brutal because capitalism is about competition. And

1930
01:44:01.560 --> 01:44:04.159
it's not to say that there's not corruption and that

1931
01:44:04.199 --> 01:44:06.840
there's not greed. There are things in capitalism that need

1932
01:44:06.880 --> 01:44:10.319
to be critiqued. But I would say that capitalism as

1933
01:44:10.359 --> 01:44:14.840
a functional system is far more honest than socialism is

1934
01:44:15.159 --> 01:44:19.079
because what you see is what you get with socialism,

1935
01:44:19.119 --> 01:44:22.199
you get a bait and switch. And I think the

1936
01:44:22.279 --> 01:44:26.239
interesting thing here is that how much you know. Social

1937
01:44:26.279 --> 01:44:31.840
media has played a role in brainwashing generations of younger

1938
01:44:31.880 --> 01:44:35.680
people into thinking that this is a viable option. And

1939
01:44:35.680 --> 01:44:38.720
I'm like, okay, well, let's let's find out, right, if

1940
01:44:38.720 --> 01:44:42.119
he gets elected, we can all watch in real time

1941
01:44:42.720 --> 01:44:45.359
to see if he can deliver on his vast promises.

1942
01:44:45.359 --> 01:44:47.840
And you and I know that that's not going to happen.

1943
01:44:48.079 --> 01:44:53.039
Yeah, because traditionally what happens is promises made, there's a

1944
01:44:53.079 --> 01:44:56.720
failure to those promises, and then, as you say, they

1945
01:44:56.800 --> 01:44:59.439
become the ruling class. And you really have a clear

1946
01:44:59.439 --> 01:45:03.039
distinction the haves and have nots, well exactly, and if

1947
01:45:03.079 --> 01:45:05.760
you complain about it, guess what we have ways to

1948
01:45:05.800 --> 01:45:09.560
stop you from complaining, right, and nothing twice of doing it.

1949
01:45:09.680 --> 01:45:13.520
So it's a shared misery component. And what he is

1950
01:45:13.600 --> 01:45:16.640
offering here and what he's you know, again in typical

1951
01:45:16.880 --> 01:45:19.920
political speak, Hey, I got all kinds of free stuff

1952
01:45:19.920 --> 01:45:23.159
for you, and uh, and these young people in New

1953
01:45:23.239 --> 01:45:27.800
York and and and let's not forget here, the composition

1954
01:45:28.079 --> 01:45:31.399
and the demographics of New York have been great greatly altered.

1955
01:45:32.039 --> 01:45:35.840
Look at look at how many Muslims reside in New York.

1956
01:45:36.319 --> 01:45:39.079
I think it's probably more Muslims in New York than

1957
01:45:39.079 --> 01:45:40.640
anywhere else in the United States.

1958
01:45:40.800 --> 01:45:43.479
I think that's well other than maybe Dearborn, Michigan and

1959
01:45:43.600 --> 01:45:45.279
maybe Minneapolis, you.

1960
01:45:45.239 --> 01:45:47.199
Know, well they they're as well.

1961
01:45:47.520 --> 01:45:51.159
But I mean in terms of raw numbers, it's huge,

1962
01:45:51.640 --> 01:45:55.600
and so uh, they're they're driving this. And then don't

1963
01:45:55.640 --> 01:45:59.560
forget all the uh the professors that are in these

1964
01:45:59.760 --> 01:46:05.800
higher institutions of learning or we should say indoctrinating, how

1965
01:46:05.880 --> 01:46:09.239
they have uh you know, had an impact on these

1966
01:46:09.279 --> 01:46:11.279
young people to get them think that get them to

1967
01:46:11.279 --> 01:46:14.079
think that capitalism is such an evil deal. But I

1968
01:46:14.079 --> 01:46:16.600
think I think when you ferret this out, like you

1969
01:46:16.600 --> 01:46:23.000
were saying, Adam, is that, uh, compare socialism with capitalism.

1970
01:46:23.239 --> 01:46:27.039
And again, understand there's no perfect government because because because

1971
01:46:27.079 --> 01:46:31.560
we're exactly yeah, we're messed up. So so this is

1972
01:46:31.560 --> 01:46:33.960
why our founding father said, look at we're going to

1973
01:46:34.000 --> 01:46:37.079
give you this great document here called the Constitution. And

1974
01:46:37.159 --> 01:46:40.960
like I've been saying, compare the Constitution with what Mamdani

1975
01:46:41.079 --> 01:46:44.960
is offering or any other socialist and I don't know

1976
01:46:45.000 --> 01:46:47.119
why you would want socialism.

1977
01:46:47.680 --> 01:46:50.239
Well, yeah, And the weird, the weird thing that I

1978
01:46:50.239 --> 01:46:53.399
have not been able to get my head around is

1979
01:46:53.640 --> 01:47:01.000
this fusion of deep affection for radical Islam and a

1980
01:47:01.079 --> 01:47:05.760
progressive agenda. I'm like, are you paying attention? That is

1981
01:47:05.800 --> 01:47:10.359
a worldview that is antithetical, far, far more so than

1982
01:47:10.439 --> 01:47:14.600
a Jewish or a Christian perspective to everything else on

1983
01:47:14.640 --> 01:47:17.439
your platform. I don't. I don't get it, other than

1984
01:47:17.479 --> 01:47:19.800
I know that there's a racial component and that it's

1985
01:47:19.840 --> 01:47:23.359
framed as you know, there are there are racial things

1986
01:47:23.399 --> 01:47:26.760
going on here, and you know the Jews and the

1987
01:47:26.840 --> 01:47:29.800
Christians are white oppressors and blah blah blah, all of

1988
01:47:29.840 --> 01:47:31.239
that I don't want to go to.

1989
01:47:32.199 --> 01:47:34.239
So it's all about the victimhood culture.

1990
01:47:34.359 --> 01:47:36.840
Oh it all is, you know, And that's and that's

1991
01:47:36.880 --> 01:47:38.680
what you know because they got rid of the race card.

1992
01:47:38.720 --> 01:47:41.279
The race card isn't working, but everybody can be a victim.

1993
01:47:41.600 --> 01:47:44.880
So now and we're going to deconstruct. Let's go back

1994
01:47:44.920 --> 01:47:48.199
to the fundamental transformation of our country as announced by

1995
01:47:48.239 --> 01:47:49.279
a former president.

1996
01:47:49.720 --> 01:47:50.520
And here it is.

1997
01:47:50.640 --> 01:47:53.880
I mean, this is this is another phase of that

1998
01:47:54.279 --> 01:47:57.960
because you have people that want to deconstruct America and

1999
01:47:58.119 --> 01:48:00.640
just put a wrecking ball through every thing that there's

2000
01:48:00.720 --> 01:48:02.039
America and Americans.

2001
01:48:02.439 --> 01:48:03.039
That's right, And.

2002
01:48:03.760 --> 01:48:07.720
All you have to do is glance east and say,

2003
01:48:07.880 --> 01:48:11.119
how's it going in London? How's it going in Great Britain?

2004
01:48:11.479 --> 01:48:14.920
How is it going in France? Is France working right?

2005
01:48:15.039 --> 01:48:17.560
Because I think the other thing is we used to

2006
01:48:17.640 --> 01:48:20.760
have this idea, and I grew up with it as

2007
01:48:20.800 --> 01:48:25.079
an ideal that America was the melting pot. Right, different

2008
01:48:25.119 --> 01:48:29.960
cultures and peoples could come here and together we would

2009
01:48:30.079 --> 01:48:34.119
forge a new shared American identity. And that doesn't mean

2010
01:48:34.159 --> 01:48:36.960
that they had to just forget everything about their culture.

2011
01:48:37.560 --> 01:48:40.920
But it certainly didn't mean you bring your culture here

2012
01:48:40.960 --> 01:48:44.560
and you reject the American culture and try to basically,

2013
01:48:45.000 --> 01:48:49.520
you know, set up an outpost of colonialism for a

2014
01:48:49.560 --> 01:48:53.319
different country or a different worldview. But man, that's what

2015
01:48:53.359 --> 01:48:56.000
they're doing now, and they are doing it very effectively

2016
01:48:56.039 --> 01:48:58.000
in Great Britain and France especially.

2017
01:48:58.520 --> 01:49:02.600
Well, we've got places, as you mentioned, and here in America.

2018
01:49:02.000 --> 01:49:04.239
In Minneapolis and Dearborn too, right.

2019
01:49:04.159 --> 01:49:08.600
Exactly, So this has been something that you know, while

2020
01:49:08.600 --> 01:49:11.640
we were sleeping, they're continuing. And then plus on top

2021
01:49:11.640 --> 01:49:13.800
of that, I mean here we've got the birth rate

2022
01:49:13.840 --> 01:49:17.760
in America is not keeping up to standard. But yet Muslims,

2023
01:49:17.760 --> 01:49:19.880
which they said a long time ago, we know that

2024
01:49:19.920 --> 01:49:22.760
we're going to be dominant because we you know, we

2025
01:49:22.800 --> 01:49:24.000
reproduce kids.

2026
01:49:24.159 --> 01:49:27.680
Yeah, we have lots of kids. Yeah. And so that's

2027
01:49:27.840 --> 01:49:29.239
that's playing out right now.

2028
01:49:29.520 --> 01:49:32.760
And so where they expect that, I think, oh gosh,

2029
01:49:32.840 --> 01:49:33.800
not that far down the road.

2030
01:49:33.960 --> 01:49:35.600
What was it I was looking at just.

2031
01:49:35.760 --> 01:49:40.319
Twenty twenty, twenty fifty, it'll be the second largest religion

2032
01:49:40.359 --> 01:49:41.319
in the United States.

2033
01:49:41.600 --> 01:49:49.039
Yeah, yeah, And that demographic destiny is something that we

2034
01:49:49.119 --> 01:49:53.319
ought to be talking about because again it is it

2035
01:49:53.399 --> 01:49:56.920
is a theocratic religion as much as as you know,

2036
01:49:56.960 --> 01:50:01.239
the progressives want to talk about, you know, Christianity as

2037
01:50:01.279 --> 01:50:05.960
a religion of white supremacy. Give me a break, right.

2038
01:50:06.199 --> 01:50:10.560
There's no there's no separation of church and state when

2039
01:50:10.600 --> 01:50:12.840
it comes to the Muslims, right, No.

2040
01:50:12.840 --> 01:50:19.279
There's not. And again, why why is this happening? It's

2041
01:50:19.880 --> 01:50:21.840
it's bizarre to me, No, that.

2042
01:50:21.960 --> 01:50:24.520
Whole thing, because like anything, you know, why do people

2043
01:50:24.560 --> 01:50:29.359
get divorced? You stop appreciating your spouse and it becomes disposable.

2044
01:50:29.399 --> 01:50:33.319
And this is what's happened. People have over time with

2045
01:50:33.479 --> 01:50:37.920
all the propaganda that's been put out there in our

2046
01:50:38.039 --> 01:50:41.439
universities and that about how evil America is. Nobody said

2047
01:50:41.439 --> 01:50:44.479
America was perfect. You know, we're striving for a more

2048
01:50:44.560 --> 01:50:49.880
perfect union. But again, compare your constitution with our constitution.

2049
01:50:50.039 --> 01:50:52.000
I'll take that. I'll take that test any day.

2050
01:50:52.479 --> 01:50:56.159
Yeah, No, that's that's exactly right. And I think, you know,

2051
01:50:56.239 --> 01:50:59.119
to get back to the plugged in angle. As parents,

2052
01:51:00.119 --> 01:51:02.279
what we want to be doing is helping our kids

2053
01:51:02.399 --> 01:51:05.399
learn how to think critically. And part of thinking critically

2054
01:51:06.159 --> 01:51:12.239
is actually taking history seriously. And history has taken the

2055
01:51:12.239 --> 01:51:15.680
wrecking ball too in any kind of public education environment.

2056
01:51:16.359 --> 01:51:19.720
But we don't have to look that far back to

2057
01:51:19.840 --> 01:51:24.960
see historically this is a failed experiment, right that being

2058
01:51:25.039 --> 01:51:28.079
socialism and communism, it doesn't work. And not only does

2059
01:51:28.119 --> 01:51:32.760
it not work, it ends up being oppressive and totalitarian.

2060
01:51:32.880 --> 01:51:34.680
That's the only direction it can go.

2061
01:51:35.119 --> 01:51:38.279
Right, Well, Like you say, when you abandon critical thinking

2062
01:51:38.720 --> 01:51:41.239
and you're afraid to ask the hard questions or whatever

2063
01:51:41.279 --> 01:51:44.600
it is that squashes your opinion, then you know you're

2064
01:51:44.640 --> 01:51:48.640
in trouble. Yeah, because then its might makes right.

2065
01:51:49.439 --> 01:51:52.319
Well, and that's the postmodern mindset, right, I mean, if

2066
01:51:52.359 --> 01:51:56.039
there is no truth, postmodernism says the only thing that

2067
01:51:56.079 --> 01:51:58.840
matters is the will to power. And Nietzsche talked about that,

2068
01:51:59.039 --> 01:52:01.399
you know, one hundred thirty years ago, right, I mean

2069
01:52:01.439 --> 01:52:07.880
that's the that's the fundamental foundation of postmodernism is, well,

2070
01:52:08.000 --> 01:52:10.159
you know what I can, if I have the power

2071
01:52:10.159 --> 01:52:12.760
to do it, who's to say I can't? Right?

2072
01:52:12.760 --> 01:52:15.000
Exactly, So I'm going to take your God out of

2073
01:52:15.000 --> 01:52:17.680
the marketplace. Exactly, I can do as I darn well please.

2074
01:52:17.800 --> 01:52:19.640
This is really the bottom line of it, all.

2075
01:52:19.600 --> 01:52:24.720
Right, yeah, exactly exactly. So you know, in addition to

2076
01:52:25.560 --> 01:52:29.880
the brain rot of TikTok, you know, just watching video

2077
01:52:29.920 --> 01:52:34.840
after video and short circuiting your attention span. Man, it's

2078
01:52:34.920 --> 01:52:40.239
turned us into mindless, zombie consumers of entertainment. Meanwhile, there

2079
01:52:40.239 --> 01:52:42.239
are all these other things going on and we don't

2080
01:52:42.279 --> 01:52:45.039
even know to pay attention to them, right, and our

2081
01:52:45.119 --> 01:52:54.039
kids certainly don't if if we are not equipping them historically, theologically, philosophically.

2082
01:52:54.439 --> 01:52:57.039
We got to think about this, and I have conversations

2083
01:52:57.039 --> 01:52:59.880
with my kids all the time. Here's how we're going

2084
01:52:59.920 --> 01:53:02.760
to think about this, and here's how the world thinks

2085
01:53:02.800 --> 01:53:06.600
about this, and here's why the mainstream culture gets so

2086
01:53:06.720 --> 01:53:09.720
many of these things totally wrong. And if we're not

2087
01:53:09.760 --> 01:53:12.560
having those conversations, our kids are going to be totally brainwashed.

2088
01:53:12.640 --> 01:53:14.520
They've been asleep at the wheel. Here you know.

2089
01:53:14.560 --> 01:53:17.159
To your point, Adam, I mean, the culture wars have

2090
01:53:17.239 --> 01:53:19.800
been going on for a long time, and we just

2091
01:53:19.960 --> 01:53:23.279
we've just heard it so often. It's like wallpaper, you

2092
01:53:23.319 --> 01:53:25.399
know that we just get used to walking.

2093
01:53:25.079 --> 01:53:27.199
By every day. We're really not paying attention.

2094
01:53:27.279 --> 01:53:30.159
And guess what, that's fine for the enemy because they're

2095
01:53:30.159 --> 01:53:34.199
paying attention and they're about capturing, you know, capturing land,

2096
01:53:34.359 --> 01:53:37.439
capturing minds, capturing you know, countries.

2097
01:53:37.960 --> 01:53:44.199
Yeah, no, that's that's exactly right, and that agenda has

2098
01:53:44.279 --> 01:53:44.960
not changed.

2099
01:53:45.560 --> 01:53:45.680
Uh.

2100
01:53:46.199 --> 01:53:53.079
And yeah, we've got to be actively engaged, intentionally equipping

2101
01:53:53.119 --> 01:53:56.560
our children to know how to think critically, not only

2102
01:53:56.600 --> 01:53:59.880
about entertainment, but certainly about the world views that are

2103
01:54:00.000 --> 01:54:01.399
shaping the dialogue today.

2104
01:54:01.720 --> 01:54:03.520
Yeah. Or what kind of country are we turning over

2105
01:54:03.560 --> 01:54:04.520
to them, Adam.

2106
01:54:04.319 --> 01:54:08.119
Well, exactly exactly. Yeah, Ord have mercy.

2107
01:54:08.279 --> 01:54:10.359
Yeah, we got to leave it there. Adam Altz from

2108
01:54:10.359 --> 01:54:12.359
plugged in dot com, thank you as always, my friend.

2109
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Take care, have a great one, you bet, thanks Bill.

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