Oct. 29, 2025

The Bill Martinez Show 10 29 25

The Bill Martinez Show 10 29 25
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The Bill Martinez Show 10 29 25
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Are you ready?

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Yeah, Okay, let's do it.

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Ill Martinez Live a program about current events, our culture,

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our values, our politics, and our future.

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And now Bill Martinez, Well.

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Good morning America. Bill Martinez here. Good to have you

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with us. We've got Joe Freed joining us. It's been

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a minute since we've had a chance to connect. He's

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been rather busy fighting on our behalf to figure out,

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you know, what's going on and what can we do

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about conducting a free and fair election. I mean, after all,

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this is America. He's the author of course that debunked

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and how elections are stolen, and he cited twenty three

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ways in which this happens. But still the question remains.

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Joe Freed, a majority of Americans, according to Rasmussen, I

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think fifty six percent maybe in his high as sixty

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three percent in some surveys and polling do not believe

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twenty twenty to be a legitimate election.

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Well, I'll tell you, Bill, I agree with them. I

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don't either. And lately there's been some disturbing revelations in

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Fulton County, Georgia. For your audience that may not know

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exactly where that is. That's basically the Atlanta area. Fulton

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is Atlanta, and in my opinion, Fulton has a lot

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of problems and probably some real corruption at it. So

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many problems with that election we need two hours to

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go through them all. But right now, the immediate problem

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is that the seven member Board of Commissions Administrators, i

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should say, which is five members that are Democrat and

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two members that are Republican. The Democrats will not allow

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Republicans to sit on the election board. So there's the

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administration board seven members. Then there's the member election board,

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and right now there's two Democrats sitting on it. There's

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one Republican holdover who they won't reappoint, and then there's

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a new Republican Jason Frasier, that's supposed to be appointed.

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He was nominated by the Republicans and they won't put

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him on. Now, the law is very clear. It says

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that the Republicans get to appoint two and the Democrats

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get to appoint to This sort of sounds like Nancy

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Pelosi's commission, if you remember, yeah.

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Right exactly, yes, on the jan sixth committee. Yes, oh,

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remind me of that nightmare. Thank you.

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The people who believe in democracy, as long as they

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get to appoint all the people in the democracy. It's

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so ridiculous, isn't it.

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Yes, it is.

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It isn't just Joe Freed's opinion. It's not just the

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Republican's opinion. It went to try. It went to a

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court room and judge, let me see, David Emerson, I

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believe was the name. Judge David Emerson of the Fulton

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County Superior Court ruled that the law was absolutely crystal clear.

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There was no if sands or buts it. He said,

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you appoint those people, they wouldn't do it. Two days

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later he said ten thousand dollars per day fine until

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you do it. And they still refuse, and they're appealing it,

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and the appeal will go into sometime in January. It

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hasn't been exactly scheduled, but it's in January twenty six.

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Maybe some appeals court will force them finally to put

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those Republicans on.

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Who's gonna pay that fine? The taxpayers of Georgia or

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the Yeah, exactly. See, this is this disgusting thing about it.

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The people that are are, you know, breaking the law,

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they get away with it. See I've been saying this.

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I don't know why all of a sudden I started

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seeing this, Joe. But I've been saying that what happened

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when consequences are not dolled out and the individual, the perp,

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pays that consequence, then the consequence is shared by everybody.

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Right absolutely, and they don't care about it. And that's

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why they don't care. And maybe in January the Appieals

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Court will get tougher on them, but right now they're

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just holding out. And you know, part of this is

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the psychology of Democrats right now. It's good to be tough.

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You've got to fight Trump, you got to fight Republicans.

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That's their attitude. Their voters expect it. I guess they

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feel like Democrats are sort of right now in a

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bad way. They don't feel they have any power. I mean,

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I sort of understand that they feel like, well, this

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is the only thing we can do is fight, fight, fight,

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and that's what they're doing. But it's illogical and it's

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not democratic.

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Well certainly it's not at all. And the thing is

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what happens is that this isn't a Trump issue. This

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is an American issue. This is the electorate saying, hey,

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I've lost confidence in the process, and it's your responsibility

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as a state to conduct a free and fair election,

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and you have not answered the questions. And what you're

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saying right now is there's lots of smoke and even

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fire that's being ignored on this issue.

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Yeah, Bill, I can, and I can also say that,

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in my opinion, there's not even the chance that the

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twenty twenty election in Georgia should have been certified. It's

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not even close. Biden did not win that election. Now,

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I'm not going to go so far as to say

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Trump won only because the records were in such chaos

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that you can't say it, but you got But I

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will just leave this thought with your viewers. Who was

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creating the chaos? It wasn't the Republicans. It was the

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Democrats in Fulton County, you know, the give up perspective.

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That's a very large county. I told you it was

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in Atlanta. But they also have some strange, strange happenings

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with their elections. Now here's one of all fifty states,

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Georgia had the slowest rate of rejection of ballots. In

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other words, when they screened ballots, they were all acceptable

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except for a tiny, tiny, tiny amount. Right of all

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fifty states, the number one.

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Well, give it, give us an idea, numerical idea difference

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between other states and Fulton County.

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Okay, so they were the last out of the fifty.

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But then when you go to Fulton County, now we're

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going to the county level, they were one seventh of

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the average of the rest of the state. So you've

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got you start with a very low rejection state that

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accepts almost every lousy ballot no matter what, and then

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you take Fulton, the super Democrat state, and they don't

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even reject that much. And you know, I did some

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statistics on this.

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You said, state, you mean county, Fulton County, Yeah.

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That county you don't reject as much as the state.

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I did a little quick and dirty statistical analysis in

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various ways. And what I found if I compared the

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likelihood of given the populations of the county and the

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rest of the state, and you know, to do this right,

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you have to put in all those variables, what are

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the odds of Fulton County having a rejection rate one

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seventh of the rest of the state. And then I

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did it in other ways. I said, what are they

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Let's take individual counties like Cobb County, Kale County. What

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are the odds of Fulton County having a rejection rate

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lower than those counties? And then I selected counties that

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had similar pre care up, the income, similar demographics, similar size,

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and you know what I found It was less than

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one in a billion, less than one in a billion

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likelihood that that could happen. And it was this was

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a ridiculous low rejection. Fulton didn't reject anybody.

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So when you see numbers like that, that's got to

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throw up flags, caution flags in such a way that

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you say these numbers were manufactured, right, that's the only

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way you could do that. Is that hard to say?

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It's absolutely fair? And you know what, Bill, After almost

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three years, it was probably in September of twenty four,

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so about a year ago, we finally found out exactly

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why this happened. One of the members of the Board

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of Elections and Registrations in twenty twenty in Fulton County,

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Mark Wingate, revealed the reason. He said he to other

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people in the county and he was told that they

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didn't do signature matching. They just ignored the law. They

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did match signature. So in other words, any old signature

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you could sign mickey mouse.

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It was good enough, right, I'll tell you, well, we

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got to go to quick break. We'll pick it up

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on the other side. More from George Joe Freed after this,

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Bill Martinez here with Joe Free. Joe is a CPA. CPA. Okay,

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he knows numbers. He's done this all his life. CPA's

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come to him. This is how good Joe is when

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it comes to number. He also worked with the Trump

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campaign to help understand what the heck's going on. I mean,

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this thing smells like a bad kettle of fish. It

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looks like a duck, talks like a duck. And it's

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been a journey not only by Joe, but many others

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who have been trying to discern what the heck happened

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in twenty twenty. Lots of discussion. Evidence there that really, Joe,

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I guess, in many ways has really not had its

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day in court, so to speak. We've got evidence, but

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it hasn't really been adjudicated in such a way. Whether

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we're talking January sixth, which we know was a hoax.

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And all these other activist judges who come up with

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standing issues or other technical issues as opposed to just

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getting down to the facts that the American people want

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to know, which turns them right now, they're all conspiratists

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because over like I said, fifty seven some cases, sixty

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three percent of Americans do not believe in the results

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of the twenty twenty election to this day, and for

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us going forward with more elections and having this doubt,

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it just leaves this in question, you know, going forward.

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So it's this corrupt system that we continue with and

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nothing has been solved to say, Okay, look at we

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found the problem these voting machines. Were just going to

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get rid of them altogether, mail in balling never again.

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We're not We're going to ever do that again. We're

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going to do what we always said that we used

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to do, and that is it would be one national

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day of voting paper ballots, only you got to have

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the numbers in by midnight and a story.

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Absolutely.

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And by the way, President Trump is trying, you know,

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he had an executive order I think it was in

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March saying that non citizens couldn't vote. Now None of

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this is going to happen unless you get some I

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don't think will become reality unless they and the filibuster

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and actually vote on it. Frankly, but he's also announced

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just a month or so ago he wants to require

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voter ID for everybody, whether they're citizens or not.

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And that's an eighty percent number. Eighty percent of America

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believes that we should have voter ID.

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Right getting rid of the mail in ballast unless you

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have a good reason, like it used to be that

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you're handicapped, you're out of the country, that would be

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the best. To me. That's more important than the computer stuff.

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It's like, get rid of mail in ballast automatic. There

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are states like California, and I think about it would

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be another and several others. They just automatically send these

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ballots out in the mail. Some people in apartments get

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four or five of them for past residents. They're all

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exactly floating around and they can use them.

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But what they do what they do in California, Joe,

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by the way, they use the Department of Motor Vehicles

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database to send out ballots. Well, interestingly enough, I don't

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know what was it five somewhere five ten years ago,

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the governor of California said, we're going to allow which

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is amazing to me, this on the heels of nine

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to eleven. We're going to allow illegal immigrants to get

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a driver's license.

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Yeah right, and they're using it.

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Yeah right, exactly. So they're part of the database, and

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they're you know, when they are also getting ballots in

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the state of California, and.

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On and on.

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Yeah, it's a problem.

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But anyway, there's something very important I must make sure

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we get to. Today. We talked about the court case

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that's pending. Hopefully in January, the appeals Court will tell

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Fulton County you've got to put those two Republicans on

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the boards that we have a balanced board, two Democrats

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to Republicans. There's another big case that just happens four

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days ago. There was supposed to be finally, after what

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four years since the election, a hearing allowing voter ga

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with that's Garland Favorrido's organization to finally inspect the paper

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ballots in Fulton County. Now to back up real quickly,

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right away after the election, there were stories of problems

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with those ballots. There were six different witnesses that said

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these looked like phonies. They looked like they were supposed

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to be fitting a mail and envelope, but there were

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no creases. They instead of being an ink, they looked

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like they were printed in toner. You know, there were

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other problems. There were about four or five problems in

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the different witnesses saw. Now the Garland, I think it

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was a personal lawsuit, not the voter ga. He filed

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a lawsuit to get the right to inspect those ballots,

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and they've been fighting him for all these years. All

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these years he has not been allowed to see him.

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Now four days ago, suppose in the court room of

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I have to look this name up. I think Judge

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Supkura Ingram, she was supposed to have this hearing. So

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to finally get to the issue, why aren't you showing

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you know, he won the right by the way all

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the way to the Georgia Supreme Court. The Georgia Supreme

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Court said, yes, Garland Favorito has standing. He gets the

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right to see these ballots. But they that was like

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over a year ago. They just refuse, lawless, lawless, Fulton

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County refuses. So he took them to court. You know,

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spending I don't know how much money and time he

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spends going to court to fight these people. Four days ago,

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for the third time, this same judge canceled on the

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same day she just canceled the meeting. She's been screwing

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this around for a year now, Judge suit shoot Kura

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Ingram And so they haven't gotten out. Let me tell you, Bill,

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why is so important to expect these They already know

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there's a lot of phonies in there. They did get

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one thing. They never got the right to see the paper,

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but Garland got the right to see the scanned images.

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And those scanned images virtually proved that there's Mickey Mouse

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going on here. Sixteen thousand of those ballots, way more

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than the margin of victory for Biden.

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More than the twelve thousand the Trumpet asked.

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For, by the way, right, sixteen thousand of those ballots.

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You know, in Georgia, it's the law that when you

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scan an image, it has to produce two files, an

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image file that's the TIF file at an authentication file,

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which is sha SHAW file. Well, they're simultaneously produced. That's

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how it has to be done. It's the only way

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you can do it. Somehow, sixteen thousand of them have

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shaw dates file dates that are hours or even days

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after the image date. They obviously were altered.

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They were obviously ponies, right, So.

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That's you got that. You've got four thousand that have

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the identical to the split second time stamp. Now, how

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do you do that when it takes about a second

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to produce a scan, almost a second to produce a scan,

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but it should be way over an hour to produce

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four thousand. They all have identical they're obviously bonies. There's thousands,

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I think. Let me look at this, Yeah, one hundred

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and thirty thousand in Fulton County, in Fulton County that

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don't have any authentication date file at all?

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Against how many? How many Joe, how many thirty thousand?

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One hundred thousand no authentication file and they're required to

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by law in Georgia for the in person ballots in

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that county three hundred seventy four thousand. It gives you

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an idea how big this county is. Three hundred and

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seventy four thousand had no authentication files at all. So

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here is a state that you know an election decided

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by less than eleven eight hundred, you have massive numbers.

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In fact, I interviewed Garland Favorito not too long ago.

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He said, there are over a million documents missing that

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never were produced or have never been shared from Fulton County.

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It's just they do what they want and they don't

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see the care and nobody's forcing them to do it.

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Well, we got about a minute left here, Joe is

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with all this spotlight in Georgia, is this somewhat of

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a lynch pin? I mean, are we going to find

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out that this is a model in system that has

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been duplicated in all these other states that we're looking

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at that we have questions about.

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I suspect Philadelphia was he was probably worse. I don't

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have the specifics in front of me. They were really

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rough in that election Wayne County in Michigan.

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Yeah, there are other Nevada was horrific.

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Arizona's got to be a problem too.

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Absolutely, Yeah, I guarantee you. You know, you've got sixteen

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electors in Georgia. You had twenty in Pennsylvania. Oh, Pennsylvania

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is probably the clearest fraud in that say, they never

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ever actually could match ballots to identified voters. And I

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personally was about I mean, there's a group called I

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know we're running out of tied verity vote. They went

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to meticulously, week by week by week getting the database

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from the Secretary of State, and I reviewed that after

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they did it, and those were never matched, so their

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registration database could not be matched to the voters. And

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Joe for one hundred and twenty one thousand.

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Joe Freed, God bless you, God bless Garland Fa Barrito too,

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for all the hard work and endless commitment to get

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down to the truth. And they're doing everything they can

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to keep the truth from the American people. Joe Freed

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is a CPA and he is author of the book

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Well we're back with you, America. I'm glad you could

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join us on. Bill Martinez, he is a Jim Rob

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with a numbers Usay, Hey Jim, how you doing, buddy?

476
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I'm fine? Bill? How are you this morning?

477
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Hey?

478
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I'm doing terrific. I made it through the game last night,

479
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long game.

480
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Oh my gosh, the longest ever.

481
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Yeah, exactly, But wow, what a contest there. I mean,

482
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you know, we love we love sports, and especially when

483
00:28:33.480 --> 00:28:38.359
it's competitive like that. And I'll tell you the uh,

484
00:28:38.799 --> 00:28:41.920
the Blue Jays and the Dodgers are entertaining us. It's

485
00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:44.839
it's money well spent, at least on their part. Anyway,

486
00:28:44.880 --> 00:28:46.839
they spent a boatload of money.

487
00:28:47.319 --> 00:28:52.359
Right And I say, Otani, who's being paid only forty

488
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million a year, and that is that does not count

489
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the ad the ad money, that roma money he gets.

490
00:28:58.599 --> 00:29:00.799
I don't even know what he does. Does he light

491
00:29:00.880 --> 00:29:03.200
his cigars with thousand dollar bills?

492
00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:04.279
I don't know. What do you doing?

493
00:29:04.279 --> 00:29:06.680
Well, he's deferred a lot of that money, Jim, He's

494
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not even collecting it right now, which is interesting, you know,

495
00:29:09.480 --> 00:29:13.240
because he you know why, he'll defer it and you know,

496
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worry about the taxes on it later.

497
00:29:15.279 --> 00:29:18.400
I guess, so, well, he'll move to someplace cheaper than

498
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California where you don't have to pay the California taxes.

499
00:29:21.799 --> 00:29:23.160
That's the game, I think.

500
00:29:23.599 --> 00:29:25.880
Yeah, Well, we'll see, we'll see how it happens. But

501
00:29:26.839 --> 00:29:28.960
you know, I'm not sure he has to worry about

502
00:29:29.000 --> 00:29:32.920
building up a ballroom like Donald Trump, which Eric Swalwell

503
00:29:33.039 --> 00:29:36.759
said that he wants everybody on the Democratic ticket in

504
00:29:37.440 --> 00:29:39.880
you know, for twenty twenty eight to swear an allegiance

505
00:29:39.880 --> 00:29:42.279
that they are going to put a wrecking ball through

506
00:29:42.640 --> 00:29:44.119
you know, Trump's ballroom, right.

507
00:29:45.599 --> 00:29:48.720
Gosh, well that would be uh, that would be a site.

508
00:29:48.839 --> 00:29:53.599
But I think everything that you build that's three hundred

509
00:29:53.640 --> 00:29:57.839
million dollars or more, I think is not going anywhere.

510
00:29:58.279 --> 00:30:01.720
No, you know, it's all it's all show. And that's

511
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what That's what they're left with. And you know, Trump

512
00:30:04.240 --> 00:30:07.519
is just causing them all kinds of brain damage because, uh,

513
00:30:08.039 --> 00:30:11.400
he is such a moving target. He is constantly. I mean,

514
00:30:11.799 --> 00:30:15.160
if he's not building a ballroom, then he's dancing in Malaysia, right,

515
00:30:15.440 --> 00:30:17.920
and he's uh, and he's doing another piece treaty. It's

516
00:30:17.960 --> 00:30:19.359
just too much for them to keep up with.

517
00:30:20.480 --> 00:30:23.559
Yeah, I mean, nobody, nobody could keep up with this,

518
00:30:24.039 --> 00:30:28.440
uh because uh, that's right, He's he's got four plans

519
00:30:28.519 --> 00:30:29.759
going at the same time.

520
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And uh.

521
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You know, I used to laugh at people who talked

522
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about Trump with three dimensional chess, you know, three D chests.

523
00:30:38.160 --> 00:30:40.799
I think, oh, good grief, he's just a man man.

524
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But that wasn't the first term. The second term, it

525
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is kind of like that, isn't it. I mean, it's

526
00:30:45.559 --> 00:30:51.519
like weirdly one step ahead of his opponents at all times.

527
00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:54.000
Or maybe they're just dull witted. I don't know.

528
00:30:54.640 --> 00:30:57.880
Well, I think probably more deal witted, because they're just

529
00:30:57.920 --> 00:31:01.759
so deranged him that they've lost their minds. You know,

530
00:31:02.119 --> 00:31:04.240
they're easy pickings. I used to say, even in the

531
00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:08.079
first administration that their lips were always hanging out so

532
00:31:08.599 --> 00:31:10.359
where he could gas them so easily.

533
00:31:13.079 --> 00:31:15.640
You know, that's a very funny image.

534
00:31:15.960 --> 00:31:19.519
Yeah. Yeah, But now this new thing that's happened. How

535
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about those Democratic senators who say he was right about

536
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the border all along?

537
00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:27.240
Well, how do you deny it? You know, whether it's

538
00:31:27.279 --> 00:31:29.279
Fetterman and Fetterman has been the voice of reason for

539
00:31:29.319 --> 00:31:31.799
the Democratic Party. He's kind of given some o you

540
00:31:31.839 --> 00:31:35.160
know for Democrats who are looking at their their left flank,

541
00:31:35.200 --> 00:31:37.440
going what is going on here? I mean, this is

542
00:31:37.480 --> 00:31:41.640
not our Democratic party, but a lot of energy is

543
00:31:41.799 --> 00:31:45.960
on that that radical progressive side, which is amazing because

544
00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:49.200
they claim to be progressive, but their policies are regressive.

545
00:31:49.240 --> 00:31:50.839
I mean, they're talking about taking you back.

546
00:31:50.920 --> 00:31:51.160
Right.

547
00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:55.160
Yeah, Well, I mean the one that amazed me of

548
00:31:55.200 --> 00:31:58.200
the of the three or four senators Democratic senators who

549
00:31:58.640 --> 00:32:01.599
have changed their position on Trump and the border, the

550
00:32:01.640 --> 00:32:04.400
one that's amazing to me is.

551
00:32:04.599 --> 00:32:06.839
Bernie Sanders, right yeah.

552
00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:09.720
How The funny thing is, Bernie Sanders used to be

553
00:32:09.799 --> 00:32:12.400
good on the border before he came back, became bad

554
00:32:12.440 --> 00:32:15.319
on the border, and now he's good. He's back to

555
00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:18.480
good on the border because he he can't. It's become

556
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absurd to deny it. It's like, and you know, his

557
00:32:21.599 --> 00:32:27.359
instinct is it was is really to help manufacture manufacturing

558
00:32:27.400 --> 00:32:30.000
workers at factories. I mean, that's that's where he sort

559
00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:32.000
of made his bread and butter. But then he got

560
00:32:32.039 --> 00:32:36.799
away from that and became more a hardcore socialist. But

561
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I think maybe he's seeing that there's there's there's uh.

562
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Since someone has done his has done his work for him,

563
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might as well enjoy it.

564
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But h.

565
00:32:49.160 --> 00:32:52.319
So, but the thing is here, here's the deal. These

566
00:32:52.359 --> 00:32:55.799
guys are talking. They're talking cheap, cheap.

567
00:32:56.240 --> 00:32:56.400
Uh.

568
00:32:56.720 --> 00:32:58.240
They're talking like a.

569
00:32:58.240 --> 00:33:00.720
Cheap solution because right now they don't have to vote

570
00:33:00.759 --> 00:33:02.759
on anything, they don't have to do anything.

571
00:33:03.240 --> 00:33:05.559
Trump's got all of that.

572
00:33:08.519 --> 00:33:12.559
Trump's got all of that the work done, and all

573
00:33:12.599 --> 00:33:14.759
they have to say is Trump was right. So what

574
00:33:14.799 --> 00:33:17.480
Republicans need to do in the House and in the

575
00:33:17.519 --> 00:33:21.519
Senate is to put up some hardline bills that will

576
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preserve the gains he's made for.

577
00:33:24.160 --> 00:33:27.799
The long time exactly. Well, yeah, that's that's critical because

578
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I mean, look what it took Joe Biden. How many

579
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days for him to upend everything and put this country

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in peril and for all that great work. Yeah, that's

581
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all That's all.

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I said one day.

583
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So so now now that a lot more Democrats are

584
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talking a good gain, now that someone else has done

585
00:33:44.440 --> 00:33:47.960
the hard work for them, how about putting those how

586
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about getting HR two back on the floor exactly in

587
00:33:51.839 --> 00:33:56.039
it and the House and make the Democrats vote for it,

588
00:33:56.079 --> 00:33:59.640
because now that they're saying, hey, we need a closed border, Okay,

589
00:33:59.680 --> 00:34:03.000
here's a bill that will keep it closed to illegal

590
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crossings forever.

591
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Vote for that if you're really sincere.

592
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Right, Well, it'll take away their you know, their consistent

593
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narrative that Donald Trump had upended a bipartisan bill, remember

594
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at the end of Biden's administration, but it was it

595
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was a bogus bill. I mean, it was just terrible.

596
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We would have raised illegal crossings, at least in the

597
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short term. I mean so and and you know, I

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know a lot of people have a lot of contacts

599
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with people who were for that bill that helped build

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it in the background, and most of them don't think

601
00:34:41.719 --> 00:34:44.440
it would have worked either, tell you the truth, because

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they I mean they would have. I mean, they were

603
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trying to do the least they could do to get

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some semblance of order so they could continue, you know,

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with their other agenda. But you know, I just told them,

606
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I said, look, you know the bill like this, Uh,

607
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you know, we were not going to go along with a.

608
00:35:05.559 --> 00:35:08.880
Bill that made the situation worse. We're never going to

609
00:35:09.000 --> 00:35:10.440
do that, right And.

610
00:35:11.920 --> 00:35:13.880
Well, and that's like, that's like right now, you know,

611
00:35:13.920 --> 00:35:15.719
why do you want to add one and a half

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00:35:15.719 --> 00:35:20.840
trillion dollars to the debt to satisfy uh you know,

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00:35:21.159 --> 00:35:25.239
medical medicare for illegal immigrants in the country.

614
00:35:25.920 --> 00:35:28.960
Right right right? Well, you know, of course that is absurd.

615
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And uh, you know, they they claim that's not what

616
00:35:32.159 --> 00:35:34.840
it's about, but of course any close reading of the

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bill shows it's exactly what it's about.

618
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I mean, it's about even more.

619
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That's a you know, we'll just will never sign off

620
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on a bill that's going to make the situation worse

621
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with the illegal aliens. And if you pay for you know,

622
00:35:49.840 --> 00:35:53.199
trillions of dollars of free medical care, you're going to

623
00:35:53.280 --> 00:35:59.000
get more, You're going to get more of illegal crossings exactly. Yeah,

624
00:35:59.400 --> 00:36:04.199
especially wants a you know, a person who's soft on

625
00:36:04.199 --> 00:36:07.519
on illegal immigration gets in the White House.

626
00:36:08.519 --> 00:36:12.519
And that's inevitable, right, I mean, it's it's it's it's

627
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gonna be.

628
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Uh, you know, maybe maybe Vance gets elected, get Let's

629
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elected next, I hope so. But if he does, who

630
00:36:25.239 --> 00:36:31.960
follows Vance? I mean, American politics has a way of cycling.

631
00:36:32.599 --> 00:36:36.119
The worm does turn, as my late mother used to say, right,

632
00:36:36.320 --> 00:36:39.480
and you know, I in my younger life, I I

633
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would get giddy various times in politics, thinking oh yeah,

634
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now we got it all worked out, And she says, Jim,

635
00:36:47.320 --> 00:36:49.519
the worm worm turns.

636
00:36:49.760 --> 00:36:52.320
Yeah, it does know and that that that you can't

637
00:36:52.360 --> 00:36:55.119
count on, just like gravity, no doubt about it. But

638
00:36:55.440 --> 00:36:58.199
you know, the Democrats right now have done such damage

639
00:36:58.199 --> 00:37:01.599
to their party that the people, the American people are

640
00:37:01.639 --> 00:37:05.039
waking up and saying, can we trust these people to

641
00:37:05.199 --> 00:37:08.960
govern our country? Do we put them in charge?

642
00:37:10.079 --> 00:37:11.119
Right right?

643
00:37:11.199 --> 00:37:14.679
Well, I mean that's the struggle they're going to have,

644
00:37:14.840 --> 00:37:21.119
for sure. But if the Republicans don't take advantage of

645
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having both chambers of Congress and the White House the

646
00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:29.840
pass bills that will lock any future president's hands so

647
00:37:29.920 --> 00:37:33.039
that he or she cannot undo what Trump has done,

648
00:37:33.639 --> 00:37:35.360
then Republicans don't deserve it either.

649
00:37:35.440 --> 00:37:37.480
Bill Well, you know, and part of the deal is

650
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the Republicans want to play nice. The Democrats wouldn't play nice.

651
00:37:41.440 --> 00:37:44.960
I mean, you know, John Dune keeps talking about going nuclear.

652
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Quit talking, just do it, you know, because the bottom

653
00:37:48.159 --> 00:37:51.920
line is the American people want action, you know, all

654
00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:55.519
these things that they by mandate elected Donald Trump to do.

655
00:37:56.000 --> 00:37:59.039
They want all this stuff codified. So show what if

656
00:37:59.119 --> 00:38:01.599
you've got to go no nuclear? But you're going nuclear

657
00:38:01.639 --> 00:38:03.199
for all the right reasons, aren't you.

658
00:38:03.280 --> 00:38:05.599
Jim Well, I have.

659
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I had a long conversation with a good friend of

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mine and who lives in California, and he was making

661
00:38:12.599 --> 00:38:15.800
the point you're making. But I don't know, Bill, I'm

662
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just worried about if the next Biden gets in the

663
00:38:18.199 --> 00:38:21.480
White House and the Democrats it's sort of their turn

664
00:38:21.559 --> 00:38:26.519
to have a slim majority in both chambers, like the Republicans.

665
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Have a slim majority in both chambers.

666
00:38:28.239 --> 00:38:32.480
I just then then laws will be as easy to

667
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overturn as executive orders.

668
00:38:34.840 --> 00:38:37.760
And I'm just worried about it. I see your point.

669
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It's I'm thinking about it, but I'm nervous about it too.

670
00:38:41.920 --> 00:38:43.679
Well, I'm kind of stability.

671
00:38:44.199 --> 00:38:48.239
Well, we haven't won by playing nice and going along

672
00:38:48.280 --> 00:38:51.679
with tradition. Look what happened. You know, Harry Reid was

673
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the one that went nuclear, opened the door, and that's

674
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what allowed us to get you know, three conservative judges

675
00:38:56.960 --> 00:38:59.800
on the Supreme Court, right, So that's been a good

676
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So why not follow that lead and understand, look at

677
00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:06.400
the people want you to govern if they're getting in

678
00:39:06.440 --> 00:39:09.039
the way, and it's obvious the Democrats are doing everything

679
00:39:09.039 --> 00:39:13.159
they can to resist. That's what they do. And along

680
00:39:13.159 --> 00:39:17.119
with all the other angry rhetoric that they're throwing in,

681
00:39:17.400 --> 00:39:21.119
spitting into the electorate, you know, we've got to act

682
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while we've got the power, because otherwise they're going to say, hey,

683
00:39:24.239 --> 00:39:26.400
we all there. All the people are going to know, Jim,

684
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is that we gave you the vote, you had the majority,

685
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and you didn't do anything.

686
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It's food for thought. I'm still thinking about it. I'm nervous, though.

687
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No, and I understand, Jim, I understand. I understand the caution,

688
00:39:39.559 --> 00:39:43.000
but I'm saying, look it, I'll take the win. I'll

689
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take the win when I can get it. And then

690
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it's up for the future Republicans to, you know, to

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sell the people on why we did what we did.

692
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And and we've got to continue to take a stand

693
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for conservatism because the thing is, the Democrats are throwing everything.

694
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You know, they'll earn the house down.

695
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They will.

696
00:40:02.639 --> 00:40:06.519
Yeah, I think the best case for abolishing the filibuster

697
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is that the Democrats next chance they get will definitely

698
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abolish it too. So I mean they if it's not

699
00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:17.440
abolished by then, they'll abolish it. So I mean, it's

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00:40:17.519 --> 00:40:23.559
it's days are probably numbered. But man, we're losing our

701
00:40:23.639 --> 00:40:29.519
checks and balances in the system. And I just what

702
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I hope happens is that Democrats will see the danger

703
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in front of them because that they the the filibuster

704
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is something that protects them at times and hurts them

705
00:40:44.840 --> 00:40:48.079
at other times. So maybe they'll come around on these

706
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immigration things. At least as far as the legal peace.

707
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We'll see it and.

708
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Maybe pigs will fly against Jim Rob. I'm saying because

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the Democrats only know about power and control and it's

710
00:41:01.039 --> 00:41:06.480
it's a momentary experience. They're not thinking long term. I

711
00:41:06.760 --> 00:41:10.519
mean that's obvious. That's especially after what Harry Reid did.

712
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He set the temperament. And right now the Democrats and

713
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especially the left wing, they're they're their anger and and

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and vitriol is moving and really congealing that uh you know,

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I I don't know what else to say.

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Welcome back to America, Bill Martinez here. Good to have

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you with us. It's also good to have our good

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friend Curtis how joining us, Managing editor of NewsBusters. Curtis,

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How are we doing to be with you?

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Bill?

808
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Hey?

809
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Always good to be with you. Let's see here the

810
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Democrats are just going nuts over Trump's ballroom. You had

811
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the infamous Swallwell, the congressman from California, wanting every Democrat

812
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presidential nominee or considerate one to make a pledge that

813
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they would put a wrecking ball through Trump's ballroom on

814
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their first day of office. How's that? Huh?

815
00:46:59.719 --> 00:46:59.880
Well?

816
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I think again, this goes to show two things bill

817
00:47:03.480 --> 00:47:06.159
about the state of the modern left. Number One, they

818
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don't have the facts on their side. The White House

819
00:47:08.880 --> 00:47:12.559
put out a fact sheet last week, and I think

820
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anybody with a basic Google search, a clean Google search,

821
00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:18.599
if you take out everything, all the slot from the

822
00:47:18.679 --> 00:47:24.440
last week, you would find a long historical record of minor, moderate,

823
00:47:24.599 --> 00:47:27.960
and major changes to the White House. Basically ever since

824
00:47:28.480 --> 00:47:32.320
you know, John Adams moved in, they started doing Jefferson

825
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and obviously burned down the War of eighteen twelve, burned

826
00:47:36.039 --> 00:47:40.559
with the Madison in the White House, you know, up

827
00:47:40.639 --> 00:47:44.239
through all sorts of technological advances, putting electricity in the

828
00:47:44.239 --> 00:47:46.920
White House, putting phone in the White House, building the

829
00:47:46.960 --> 00:47:51.360
East wing that we've been discussing here, the West wing.

830
00:47:52.199 --> 00:47:53.079
Harry Truman.

831
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One of the big, one of the.

832
00:47:55.280 --> 00:47:59.599
Big scandals, so to speak, which in retrospect was again nothing,

833
00:48:00.119 --> 00:48:02.960
is that he wanted to build the balcony. People didn't

834
00:48:03.159 --> 00:48:06.280
like that. And actually, sure enough, like a lot of times,

835
00:48:06.320 --> 00:48:09.079
history ended up being very good to Harry Truman in

836
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the in respects that we look at the balcony of

837
00:48:12.159 --> 00:48:14.559
the White House now and we think, oh, this is

838
00:48:14.639 --> 00:48:18.760
like a very elegant feature defining feature of the White House.

839
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So I think again it's all about not having the

840
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facts on the side, and also just the plain hysteria

841
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Congressmans for all while talking about wanting to knock it

842
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down being a litmus test the view falsely claiming that

843
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taxpayer dollars will be used even though that has been

844
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shown to not be true at all with pract exactly.

845
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From one there was never a question about that. Exactly.

846
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Have two things on there, So they don't have the

847
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facts and they also don't have sobriety on their.

848
00:48:47.320 --> 00:48:50.559
Side, right without a doubt and uh, and not to

849
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mention some mental basic mental acuity. I mean, this is

850
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what madness will do to you. It will render you

851
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stupid and out of your mind to make the statements

852
00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:05.599
that are so easily proven false. You know, this is amazing,

853
00:49:05.679 --> 00:49:08.360
And you know, I wish they would they would grow up,

854
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because it's a waste of time and a waste of

855
00:49:10.639 --> 00:49:12.280
energy to get caught up in these ways.

856
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Right, you have a situation where if you're the White

857
00:49:14.719 --> 00:49:16.760
House Press Office and a lot of the questions you're

858
00:49:16.800 --> 00:49:19.440
feeling of the last week plus had to do with

859
00:49:19.480 --> 00:49:24.039
the ballroom, you can say that's a win obviously, because

860
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they're not hammering you on something else. They're talking about cosmetics,

861
00:49:27.559 --> 00:49:30.480
they're talking about something the American people generally don't care about,

862
00:49:30.519 --> 00:49:31.320
probably even if.

863
00:49:31.199 --> 00:49:33.440
They know in the middle of a shutdown, in the.

864
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Middle of a shutdown, and even if Americans don't like

865
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what's going on in the ballroom, like I know people

866
00:49:38.639 --> 00:49:41.519
in my own life that are like, uh, this wasn't

867
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handled great, but we'll see.

868
00:49:44.360 --> 00:49:47.480
But even in those cases of people who disagree with it,

869
00:49:47.559 --> 00:49:52.599
they don't they recognize that their discomfort or opposition to

870
00:49:52.679 --> 00:49:56.800
it does not match the media hysteria that has come

871
00:49:56.880 --> 00:49:59.639
with it. But like a lot of things, the media

872
00:49:59.679 --> 00:50:05.719
complete overblow what's going on and they completely ignore the

873
00:50:05.760 --> 00:50:10.599
substance of the government shut down. You know, people federal

874
00:50:10.639 --> 00:50:13.679
workers not being paid, the ones actually wanted to stay

875
00:50:13.679 --> 00:50:16.519
in the federal government that didn't take elon Musk's buy out.

876
00:50:17.719 --> 00:50:21.320
You know, trade deals that the president is conducting working

877
00:50:21.360 --> 00:50:25.599
on in Asia. I mean, there's any number of things

878
00:50:25.639 --> 00:50:28.360
that could be talked about right now, but they are not.

879
00:50:29.400 --> 00:50:31.760
Only one broadcast network, I should say, has picked up

880
00:50:31.760 --> 00:50:35.559
on the new threat that was found against Attorney General

881
00:50:35.559 --> 00:50:40.559
Pam BONDI only NBC has covered that so far, So

882
00:50:40.719 --> 00:50:44.679
I think by covering the ballroom and wanting to talk

883
00:50:44.719 --> 00:50:47.599
about it, they're again showing that they've learned nothing from

884
00:50:47.960 --> 00:50:49.000
the last decade.

885
00:50:49.400 --> 00:50:51.480
Yeah, they're all just selling. It's all about a headline

886
00:50:51.920 --> 00:50:55.119
and a headline right now. The easy headline is anything

887
00:50:55.239 --> 00:51:01.920
that can you know, attack Trump. That's just it's just

888
00:51:01.960 --> 00:51:05.079
perfect canon fodder for them. That's what they look for. Although,

889
00:51:05.159 --> 00:51:08.679
you know, surprise, surprise, as you're reporting, the Times, the

890
00:51:08.679 --> 00:51:11.639
New York Times and the Washington Post actually defended the

891
00:51:11.679 --> 00:51:12.960
president on the White House.

892
00:51:13.079 --> 00:51:13.280
Yeah.

893
00:51:13.760 --> 00:51:17.400
Washington Post in particular is really interesting. I mean, obviously

894
00:51:18.079 --> 00:51:23.360
that paper is owned by Amazon's Jeff Bezos, Amazon part

895
00:51:23.400 --> 00:51:27.039
of the Bezos, part of the donations. But nonetheless, I

896
00:51:27.079 --> 00:51:29.639
think this is what you've been seeing out of the

897
00:51:29.760 --> 00:51:32.400
editorial board of the Washington Post in particular over the

898
00:51:32.440 --> 00:51:36.280
last couple of weeks is finally an attempt at moderation

899
00:51:36.559 --> 00:51:39.400
and sobriety, kind of like what you see out of

900
00:51:39.440 --> 00:51:42.599
Barry Weiss's The Free Press, where you're not always going

901
00:51:42.639 --> 00:51:45.280
to agree, you'll you'll find yourself agreeing with them a

902
00:51:45.280 --> 00:51:47.840
lot more than a lot of other places like the

903
00:51:47.880 --> 00:51:51.400
Atlantic or the New York Times editor aboard, which that

904
00:51:51.639 --> 00:51:57.079
editorial is a complete abject I think one off, you

905
00:51:57.119 --> 00:51:59.800
can't really read too much into that as a one

906
00:51:59.840 --> 00:52:02.119
time thing. But I think the Washington Post one is

907
00:52:02.159 --> 00:52:05.719
interesting because it is starting to show a pattern of behavior,

908
00:52:06.119 --> 00:52:09.880
a movement back towards the center, and a full embrace

909
00:52:09.960 --> 00:52:13.320
on the part of the editorial board of the call

910
00:52:13.400 --> 00:52:16.280
for Bezos to have the Post be about free markets

911
00:52:16.320 --> 00:52:19.559
and free people exactly, which you mean all kinds of things,

912
00:52:19.599 --> 00:52:25.199
and allows plenty of vigorous policy disagreements, but it kind

913
00:52:25.199 --> 00:52:30.119
of sets a tone for which, you know, debate exists,

914
00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:34.760
instead of the kind of sophomore, over the top, grocery

915
00:52:34.760 --> 00:52:38.360
store tabloid nonsense that we've come to expect from the

916
00:52:38.400 --> 00:52:40.719
liberal media for decades.

917
00:52:41.119 --> 00:52:44.360
Well, Curtistoff, two things come in mind. Number one is

918
00:52:44.440 --> 00:52:48.199
maybe the Times in posts are thinking, if they play nice,

919
00:52:48.239 --> 00:52:51.880
they might get a ticket to the inaugural dinner that

920
00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:56.039
tries to grow in the ballroom number one. The second

921
00:52:56.280 --> 00:53:02.199
is that maybe the Mamdani effect is is really hitting

922
00:53:02.239 --> 00:53:05.719
them in such a way to go, well, we're starting

923
00:53:05.760 --> 00:53:10.800
to lose control here altogether. How do we support something

924
00:53:10.960 --> 00:53:13.320
so socialist and so communistic.

925
00:53:14.400 --> 00:53:19.599
Yeah, I should say to your joke there, Let's be honest.

926
00:53:20.039 --> 00:53:23.719
You know, God forbid, there's a President Wes Moore or

927
00:53:24.199 --> 00:53:31.519
President Gavin Newsom in twenty twenty nine or I don't know,

928
00:53:32.199 --> 00:53:35.960
twenty thirty three. Do you mean to tell me that

929
00:53:36.719 --> 00:53:40.199
those Democrat presidents aren't going to use the ballroom for

930
00:53:40.280 --> 00:53:43.119
all sorts of events, you know, like.

931
00:53:43.599 --> 00:53:45.679
The French laundry will be catering there.

932
00:53:45.880 --> 00:53:49.800
Yeah, you mean to tell me like Hunter Biden will

933
00:53:49.880 --> 00:53:54.119
be serving crack to himself if he ends up back

934
00:53:54.159 --> 00:53:55.000
in that ballroom.

935
00:53:55.119 --> 00:53:55.480
Okay.

936
00:53:57.239 --> 00:53:59.679
So I think this idea that the Democrats have been

937
00:53:59.679 --> 00:54:02.880
putting forth, that they're so gassed at this and that

938
00:54:02.920 --> 00:54:06.800
they're not going to use it, is a complete and

939
00:54:06.920 --> 00:54:09.880
total farce. It's completely performative and not I think the

940
00:54:09.920 --> 00:54:12.039
part is why people are tuning it off because the

941
00:54:12.079 --> 00:54:15.679
Democrats are not offering a substantive rebuttal to any of

942
00:54:15.719 --> 00:54:17.719
this about why they don't like it. They just simply

943
00:54:17.760 --> 00:54:19.639
don't like it because Donald Trump is the one who

944
00:54:19.679 --> 00:54:22.920
is doing it, and the Obama White House actually, David

945
00:54:22.920 --> 00:54:25.599
Oxart has said in the past they pitched that right

946
00:54:25.679 --> 00:54:29.960
exactly to Donald Trump. And Barack Obama and the team.

947
00:54:30.000 --> 00:54:32.559
It didn't really go anywhere beyond that, right.

948
00:54:32.880 --> 00:54:35.320
Well, And the thing is is that it's interesting when

949
00:54:35.320 --> 00:54:37.920
you look at all the refurbishments over the years, as

950
00:54:37.960 --> 00:54:42.880
you you started enumerating here from different presidents, a lot

951
00:54:42.920 --> 00:54:45.880
of that was done with taxpayer money. In this case here,

952
00:54:46.039 --> 00:54:49.800
this is all private donation. Donald Drum says, you know, well,

953
00:54:49.800 --> 00:54:52.960
what if it's what if there's overruns? Donald Trum's you know,

954
00:54:52.960 --> 00:54:55.280
I'll pay the difference. I'll make it work. But you

955
00:54:55.360 --> 00:54:57.320
know he will. I mean, look at what he's done,

956
00:54:57.400 --> 00:55:00.599
even with the old post office and that beautiful hotel

957
00:55:00.679 --> 00:55:02.719
that he constructed. I mean, this is what he does.

958
00:55:02.960 --> 00:55:05.519
He does this stuff in his sleep. And then meanwhile,

959
00:55:05.519 --> 00:55:10.480
in contrast, you got Palell over at the FED with

960
00:55:10.639 --> 00:55:13.320
overruns what is a two point four billion.

961
00:55:12.960 --> 00:55:14.599
Dollars And I'm just saying Canada.

962
00:55:14.760 --> 00:55:17.239
In Canada, they're starting to work on Parliament Hill, and

963
00:55:17.320 --> 00:55:20.760
I believe that's going to take until least twenty thirty two,

964
00:55:20.880 --> 00:55:24.079
well into the mid twenty thirties, to simply renovate their

965
00:55:24.199 --> 00:55:25.880
own government buildings.

966
00:55:26.440 --> 00:55:30.480
Could you imagine if this had gone to Congress, this

967
00:55:30.960 --> 00:55:32.960
cut off the ground, it would be so mired in

968
00:55:33.079 --> 00:55:37.039
regulation and debate back and forth. What a mess. Yeah.

969
00:55:37.199 --> 00:55:39.199
Oh, and I just say, right outside of Washington, d C.

970
00:55:39.360 --> 00:55:43.559
There is a purple line, a light rail line that

971
00:55:43.679 --> 00:55:45.800
was supposed to have opened three or four years ago,

972
00:55:45.840 --> 00:55:49.960
I believe, and it is billions, multiple billions of dollars

973
00:55:50.000 --> 00:55:53.039
over budget. So that is a tell there.

974
00:55:53.400 --> 00:55:56.719
Yeah, well, and that seems to be consistent with anything

975
00:55:56.800 --> 00:56:00.400
from the left, because it's not their money, it's you know,

976
00:56:00.960 --> 00:56:03.599
they're able to tap into the treasury. And so what

977
00:56:03.679 --> 00:56:06.480
if we're at thirty seven, looking at thirty eight trillion

978
00:56:06.559 --> 00:56:10.960
dollars in debt and our interest payment of accelerating in

979
00:56:11.079 --> 00:56:14.760
excess of what our military budget is, not to worry

980
00:56:14.760 --> 00:56:18.480
the fact that people are beginning to realize the pain

981
00:56:18.960 --> 00:56:22.239
of a government shut down, and you have Schumer saying, oh,

982
00:56:22.400 --> 00:56:25.239
this is perfect, We love this, We love the fact

983
00:56:25.280 --> 00:56:28.280
that people are suffering. And then of course you have

984
00:56:28.320 --> 00:56:34.440
the whip every day us. Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly, and

985
00:56:35.039 --> 00:56:37.679
we've got real lives and real people and real pain.

986
00:56:38.199 --> 00:56:41.719
And this is so unnecessary, especially when this is a

987
00:56:41.760 --> 00:56:45.559
procedural deal, something that has traditionally occurred in terms of

988
00:56:45.599 --> 00:56:51.599
the appropriation process and you already had bipartisan participation in

989
00:56:51.679 --> 00:56:56.159
the appropriations process, and the Democrats decided to put a

990
00:56:56.719 --> 00:57:00.840
wrench in the spokes of everything to the government to

991
00:57:00.920 --> 00:57:04.079
a stop. And also, I think put themselves in jeopardy

992
00:57:04.119 --> 00:57:06.960
because you've got government employees that are going to lose

993
00:57:07.000 --> 00:57:09.960
their jobs because Trump's not going to hire them back.

994
00:57:10.559 --> 00:57:13.280
Yeah, that's a huge problem. It's a huge problem, and

995
00:57:13.880 --> 00:57:18.599
the Democrats are willing to fight over these subsidies, which

996
00:57:19.039 --> 00:57:23.159
I should point out were created as part of the

997
00:57:23.199 --> 00:57:25.960
so called American Rescue Plan, which created a lot of

998
00:57:25.960 --> 00:57:29.119
the inflationary issues that we have now as a country.

999
00:57:29.599 --> 00:57:34.519
That extended Obamacare subsidy eligibility to people four hundred percent

1000
00:57:34.559 --> 00:57:38.960
above the poverty line. That's the kind of groups of

1001
00:57:39.000 --> 00:57:41.679
people that we're talking about. And if the Democrats want

1002
00:57:41.679 --> 00:57:45.079
to argue that those people who make that much money

1003
00:57:45.360 --> 00:57:49.800
need Obamacare subsidies, then maybe the issue is the subsidies.

1004
00:57:49.880 --> 00:57:52.480
It's the ACA.

1005
00:57:52.280 --> 00:57:57.840
Itself itself is not very affordable as they promoted it

1006
00:57:57.880 --> 00:57:58.079
to be.

1007
00:57:58.400 --> 00:57:58.519
Right.

1008
00:57:58.599 --> 00:58:01.760
Curtis correct, No, it is not affordable and it does

1009
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not provide care right exactly.

1010
00:58:04.760 --> 00:58:08.079
Curtis Howk, managing editor of NewsBusters, has been our guest

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Curtis as always appreciate the time, my friend, take care.

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Getting America back on track, Bill Martinez Live.

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Well, good morning, six minutes after the top of the

1034
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r Right now, Bill Martinez here with Scott Powell. Hey, Scott,

1035
00:59:29.039 --> 00:59:32.039
how you doing. I'm doing well, built, thank you. You're

1036
00:59:32.079 --> 00:59:35.079
not upset with the Trump refurbishing the White House? I mean,

1037
00:59:35.519 --> 00:59:42.360
you know, well it uh when times are tight. Well,

1038
00:59:42.360 --> 00:59:45.159
the fact is that it's been privately funny so exactly

1039
00:59:45.400 --> 00:59:48.840
I'd say, God bless him. Yeah, it'll probably be done

1040
00:59:48.840 --> 00:59:54.280
faster than Obama's library, right, which is what a what

1041
00:59:54.400 --> 00:59:56.840
a disaster? You got that, and and then you got

1042
00:59:56.960 --> 01:00:00.280
of course, you know the fad they're building that, all

1043
01:00:00.280 --> 01:00:03.559
the cost overruns and everything, and Trump's doing you know

1044
01:00:03.639 --> 01:00:05.519
a bit well again you look at what he did

1045
01:00:05.519 --> 01:00:08.360
with the Post Office, right and turn that into a

1046
01:00:08.519 --> 01:00:12.519
fabulous deal. I think for what I mean, it was

1047
01:00:12.559 --> 01:00:16.480
a fraction of what the FAED is paying with all

1048
01:00:16.519 --> 01:00:18.639
their overruns. I don't know what are they two point

1049
01:00:18.679 --> 01:00:21.800
five billion or something like that for a building? You know,

1050
01:00:21.880 --> 01:00:25.079
it's crazy, Yeah, it's just nuts. But yeah, I mean,

1051
01:00:25.119 --> 01:00:27.159
this is it's going to be a beautiful thing because

1052
01:00:27.199 --> 01:00:29.760
Donald Trump, that's what he loves to do. I mean,

1053
01:00:29.760 --> 01:00:33.840
this is his gift is building and making things beautiful

1054
01:00:33.960 --> 01:00:37.239
and wow, I mean, you know, they had over the

1055
01:00:37.239 --> 01:00:39.840
weekend and I was able to view a little bit

1056
01:00:39.840 --> 01:00:43.039
of a tour of mar Lago and you know how

1057
01:00:43.079 --> 01:00:45.800
Trump had refurbished and all the things that he's done there.

1058
01:00:45.880 --> 01:00:49.800
I mean, it's just it's he's got the golden touch.

1059
01:00:49.840 --> 01:00:51.000
I mean, you got to hand it to him. And

1060
01:00:51.000 --> 01:00:53.639
the fact that you know, he's on the people's side

1061
01:00:54.079 --> 01:00:56.840
doing this. This is something. This big ballroom will be

1062
01:00:56.880 --> 01:01:00.519
something that presidents in the future, will you lie. And

1063
01:01:01.079 --> 01:01:03.719
you know, even Barack Obama was frustrated and saying that

1064
01:01:03.760 --> 01:01:06.920
there wasn't a big facility or ballroom in which he

1065
01:01:06.960 --> 01:01:09.920
could hold, you know, some of these big dinners that

1066
01:01:10.000 --> 01:01:13.079
he would love to have and that somebody who is that,

1067
01:01:13.480 --> 01:01:15.880
you know, the head of the free world, should be

1068
01:01:15.920 --> 01:01:18.599
able to have. And of course now it'll be available

1069
01:01:18.639 --> 01:01:22.719
here in short order. But meanwhile we just get to

1070
01:01:22.760 --> 01:01:26.320
have fun and enjoy. The people who are inflicted with

1071
01:01:26.400 --> 01:01:32.440
TDS just being triggered over this, huh.

1072
01:01:30.760 --> 01:01:34.119
Well, they'll find any reason to, you know, to be

1073
01:01:34.239 --> 01:01:35.320
smirched Donald Trump.

1074
01:01:35.719 --> 01:01:37.559
That's just the way it is.

1075
01:01:38.280 --> 01:01:43.760
It's very sad. It really reflects a very unhealthy state

1076
01:01:43.920 --> 01:01:47.920
of our country, that that there is such hatred in

1077
01:01:48.000 --> 01:01:52.159
the atmosphere and such divisiveness, and there's you know, there's

1078
01:01:52.159 --> 01:01:54.400
a lot of blame to go around, but really it's

1079
01:01:54.440 --> 01:01:58.000
a it's a spiritual battle, and we've unleaked very very

1080
01:01:59.480 --> 01:02:04.039
demonic type spirits that right, you know, are very powerful.

1081
01:02:03.639 --> 01:02:08.840
And well, you're right, it's exposing the worst of our humanity, Scott.

1082
01:02:08.920 --> 01:02:12.039
I mean when you talk about hatred and rage, I mean, really,

1083
01:02:12.039 --> 01:02:15.519
are you kidding me? I mean, that's that's how you're

1084
01:02:15.559 --> 01:02:18.880
spending your day, is just finding out ways and why

1085
01:02:19.480 --> 01:02:22.000
you should hate somebody because you didn't want him to

1086
01:02:22.000 --> 01:02:24.679
be president. But can't you even look at the benefit

1087
01:02:24.719 --> 01:02:27.719
of what he's doing and affecting, you know, peace in

1088
01:02:27.760 --> 01:02:30.079
all these areas. I mean, maybe for the first time

1089
01:02:30.119 --> 01:02:34.039
we'll have peace in the Middle East legitimately. You know,

1090
01:02:34.119 --> 01:02:38.039
these Arab nations coming together to work in concert like

1091
01:02:38.119 --> 01:02:40.599
four others have and said, hey, look at we love

1092
01:02:40.679 --> 01:02:43.719
working with Israel, and the rest of them are just

1093
01:02:43.800 --> 01:02:47.559
waiting until this thing settles off in the Gaza and

1094
01:02:47.840 --> 01:02:52.000
where they could move and join, you know, the Abraham Accords.

1095
01:02:53.519 --> 01:02:55.199
You know what what the president has been able to

1096
01:02:55.199 --> 01:02:59.480
do and securing our border and doing something about these

1097
01:02:59.559 --> 01:03:02.679
these people people and these nefarious forces, you know, evil

1098
01:03:02.719 --> 01:03:06.719
forces that have been killing our countryman Scott, I mean,

1099
01:03:06.840 --> 01:03:11.679
you know, he's blowing drug running terrorists, boats, narco terrorists

1100
01:03:11.719 --> 01:03:15.000
out of the water because they have been you know,

1101
01:03:15.320 --> 01:03:19.119
at will invading our country and killing our young people,

1102
01:03:19.360 --> 01:03:22.840
what one hundred thousand every year, like, I mean, that's

1103
01:03:22.840 --> 01:03:24.400
a devastating body count.

1104
01:03:25.559 --> 01:03:29.519
Oh, it's it's a manifestation of the irregular warfare that's

1105
01:03:29.559 --> 01:03:34.719
being wasted against us. There's chemical, be drugs, biological, COVID.

1106
01:03:35.800 --> 01:03:39.000
You know, there's there's no end to the different attacks

1107
01:03:39.000 --> 01:03:41.320
that are being made on the United States. And I

1108
01:03:41.960 --> 01:03:44.960
fear that, you know, we're we're going to see worse

1109
01:03:45.280 --> 01:03:48.719
disruptions before before things turn.

1110
01:03:49.480 --> 01:03:49.800
Yeah.

1111
01:03:49.880 --> 01:03:52.280
Well you touched on something here, and that is all

1112
01:03:52.400 --> 01:03:56.840
these existential threats that are not so far and away anymore.

1113
01:03:56.920 --> 01:03:59.679
I mean, you know, as we've become more of a

1114
01:03:59.719 --> 01:04:06.360
glow globalist nation, and certainly with the influx of illegal

1115
01:04:06.360 --> 01:04:10.280
immigrants who've come into their country, the danger is clear

1116
01:04:10.400 --> 01:04:15.159
and present. And what people need to understand here is

1117
01:04:15.199 --> 01:04:18.000
that now more than ever, we need to be the

1118
01:04:18.119 --> 01:04:23.000
United States of America, the Ununited States of America leaves

1119
01:04:23.079 --> 01:04:27.320
us vulnerable and at risk to all these nefarious forces

1120
01:04:27.719 --> 01:04:29.960
that from day one, Scott is you and I have

1121
01:04:30.039 --> 01:04:32.679
talked about it, and you, as a historian, had studied

1122
01:04:32.719 --> 01:04:38.119
and reported on a lot of people around the world

1123
01:04:38.239 --> 01:04:41.360
do not like America. They don't like that we offer

1124
01:04:41.519 --> 01:04:45.880
freedoms to the American people, to citizens in this country,

1125
01:04:46.280 --> 01:04:51.719
and we promote their individual responsibility so that they can thrive.

1126
01:04:52.320 --> 01:04:56.800
They want, you know, they see the people as their

1127
01:04:56.880 --> 01:05:00.400
servants and their slaves, not as somebody who who has

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01:05:01.119 --> 01:05:03.159
has value as an individual right.

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01:05:03.880 --> 01:05:05.079
Oh, absolutely, that's why.

1130
01:05:05.280 --> 01:05:05.440
You know.

1131
01:05:05.559 --> 01:05:08.079
One of our programs not too long ago, I on

1132
01:05:08.199 --> 01:05:13.360
Constitution Day, I spoke about the Constitution as being the

1133
01:05:13.400 --> 01:05:20.559
most dramatic historical turning point in human history, because never

1134
01:05:20.639 --> 01:05:26.280
before was there a government formed that gave unalienable rights

1135
01:05:26.320 --> 01:05:28.840
to the people, where the people would be sovereign, where

1136
01:05:28.639 --> 01:05:30.079
the role of the government.

1137
01:05:30.119 --> 01:05:32.960
It didn't Scott, I'm sorry, I just interrupted. It didn't

1138
01:05:33.079 --> 01:05:37.960
give him. It acknowledged that people had inalienable rights. Right,

1139
01:05:38.000 --> 01:05:41.519
because the rights are inalienable, they're always there, they're always there.

1140
01:05:41.599 --> 01:05:47.480
But no government document had ever acknowledged that before, hadn't

1141
01:05:47.519 --> 01:05:50.920
come close to it exactly. You know, the Declaration of

1142
01:05:50.960 --> 01:05:55.880
Independence and the Constitution established that people have unalienable rights

1143
01:05:56.280 --> 01:06:00.159
that the state cannot take away, and that indeed it

1144
01:06:00.199 --> 01:06:04.559
is the state's primary responsibility to protect those rights.

1145
01:06:04.960 --> 01:06:05.440
Exactly.

1146
01:06:05.559 --> 01:06:07.679
And most of our problems that we see in our

1147
01:06:07.719 --> 01:06:13.440
country are a function of our deviation from our the

1148
01:06:13.480 --> 01:06:17.159
fundamentals of our constitution. And you find that with you know,

1149
01:06:17.440 --> 01:06:21.480
with an assault on our moral foundation, and you you

1150
01:06:21.559 --> 01:06:22.360
have chaos.

1151
01:06:22.599 --> 01:06:25.320
And so we're you know, we're.

1152
01:06:25.199 --> 01:06:31.199
In the in the place of really changing the trajectory

1153
01:06:31.199 --> 01:06:34.440
of America. And when you do that, all the enemies

1154
01:06:34.480 --> 01:06:38.480
of this, the deep state people, they are they they

1155
01:06:38.559 --> 01:06:45.840
are determined to stop the so called second second Revolution

1156
01:06:45.960 --> 01:06:48.800
in America that that Trump is really overseeing.

1157
01:06:49.800 --> 01:06:51.480
Yeah, it's not a matter of so much a function

1158
01:06:51.519 --> 01:06:55.079
as it is dysfunction and uh and it serves, it

1159
01:06:55.119 --> 01:06:58.480
serves their purposes, as you say, and again it puts

1160
01:06:58.519 --> 01:07:02.639
us solid threat. The silent majority, you know, it wants

1161
01:07:02.679 --> 01:07:03.840
to go, Hey, I just want to go to the

1162
01:07:03.840 --> 01:07:06.639
coffee shop, have a couple of coffees and pancakes, you know,

1163
01:07:06.760 --> 01:07:09.239
have a good day. Go go and do my business

1164
01:07:09.280 --> 01:07:12.679
and work hard and all that. But Meanwhile, hey, look

1165
01:07:12.679 --> 01:07:15.039
at we're at a point where you have to be

1166
01:07:15.159 --> 01:07:20.159
vigilant about your freedom because whether it's you know, some

1167
01:07:20.280 --> 01:07:24.480
radical deciding that somebody is talking too much about freedom

1168
01:07:24.599 --> 01:07:28.480
and human rights, so we're going to assassinate him or

1169
01:07:28.519 --> 01:07:33.679
somebody else as a presidential candidate who talks about power,

1170
01:07:33.760 --> 01:07:37.039
really power to the people, every citizen, the forgotten men

1171
01:07:37.119 --> 01:07:40.800
and woman, got to take him out. I mean, this

1172
01:07:40.880 --> 01:07:43.800
is where we are right now. We've got you know,

1173
01:07:43.880 --> 01:07:49.239
even politicians supporting and defending people destroying their their cities,

1174
01:07:50.559 --> 01:07:55.800
killing jobs, and and and you know, going up against

1175
01:07:55.960 --> 01:08:00.559
law and order in promoting crime. You know. And I mean,

1176
01:08:00.559 --> 01:08:03.360
this is the America we live in today. And it

1177
01:08:03.440 --> 01:08:06.719
is dire. It's serious, and it's nothing that you can

1178
01:08:06.760 --> 01:08:09.039
sit back and say, oh, well, I'm gonna let Scott

1179
01:08:09.079 --> 01:08:12.199
Powell take care of that. It's too heavy for Scott Powell.

1180
01:08:12.519 --> 01:08:14.599
And this is why we have to be united, because

1181
01:08:14.599 --> 01:08:17.600
we have to share in that responsibility. Anyways, time to

1182
01:08:17.600 --> 01:08:19.279
go to a quick break. We've got more from Scott

1183
01:08:19.319 --> 01:08:20.600
Powell after this stay with us.

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Welcome back. Scott Pale continues with this. Scott, of course,

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is the author, member of the Committee on President Danger China,

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and a senior fellow at the Discovery Institute. Scott, you know,

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this conversation brings a comparative here because we're gonna be

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talking about Mam Donnie. You talked about the Constitution, and

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to me, it's so academic. It's like hold up the

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Constitution of the United States against that which the Democratic

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Socialist and particularly Mamdannie because he seems to be the

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you know, the standard bearer for this new movement that's happening. Okay,

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so hold that up side by side and tell me

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what's the best benefit.

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Well, there's very you know there. There clearly is.

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Not much benefit long term for the City of New

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York from Mamdanie. He people want freebie, so he promises

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a lot of subsidized freebies.

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For the people.

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And that's a common I mean, that playbook is as

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old as the hills, right. Every communist dictator has made

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promises to the people, and what's happened to those countries.

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People's lives become worse. You know, they can the government cannot.

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You cannot just redistribute wealth and and not drive out

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the people who create the wealth.

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Right, well, in a sense, Scott, though, look at where

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we are, thirty seven trillion dollars in debt. Have we

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not conditioned we the people to go for freebies? I mean,

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thirty seven trillion dollars in debt. There's a lot of

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freebies in there that have bought votes and that have

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conditioned the populace to think that, oh, okay, well then

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you know I want my I want my share of

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the treasury. You know, I my taxes or I didn't

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pay my taxes. I'm a citizen, so somehow I'm entitled

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to that. I mean, this is you know, some wrong

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headed thinking that has brought us to this point and

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left us vulnerable to vote in a democratic socialist to

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what the biggest city in our country.

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01:15:20.439 --> 01:15:24.439
Yeah, well he's not you know that, that's a kind

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01:15:24.640 --> 01:15:31.239
term a democratic socialist. Mundummi is really a hardcore Marxist,

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and in addition to that, he's a member of the

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Shi II Muslim sect and as you know, there are

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two major sects in Islam. There's the Shia and the

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and the Sunnis. And the Sunni's going to be a

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little bit more mellow, if you will. They're not as intransigent.

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The Shia are very they can be very militant. So

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we really have a combination of intolerance in the character

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01:15:59.720 --> 01:16:05.439
of of Mandami based on his political and religious orientation.

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There are no democratic Islamic countries really.

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Well well they you know again, they all package it.

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And this has been, you know, a long time coming.

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I mean it's not just you know, recently. I mean

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Trevor Loudon has been reporting on this for decades, at

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least at least ten years, I say decades, but yeah,

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probably more true than not. But that we have been

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infiltrated by these democratic socialists, card caring democratic socialists who

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are elected. I don't know how they take the old

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of office if they've already sworn to an allegiance to

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those policies and that agenda of the Socialist Party. That's right,

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that's right.

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So you know, we you know, we have a wolf

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in sheep's clothing in mum.

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Or.

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We could say we have a trojan horse, you know,

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where we don't really know what's going to happen until

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he's elected.

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Yeah. Yeah, like Nancy Pelosi, you got a passion to

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find out.

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What I mean, I have a very good idea because

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the track record of people of his ilk is very well.

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You know, it has been a playbook that we've seen

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over and over and over again. So that's why I

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have suggested that times are different now, and it's time

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to cross political lines. And it's time for those who

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would vote for the Republican candidate to shift their vote

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and vote for Como, who has a shot at getting

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more votes than Mom Donnie. If enough people get out

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and vote and vote for the opposition candidate and the

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leading opposition candidate is none other than Como.

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Yeah, well, the unfortunate thing is Cuomo is such a

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lousy candidate.

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I know that.

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I mean it is, and the deal is is and

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you know me, I I'm not much for party politics.

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I don't agree with it. I think after everything is

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all said and done, our first president warned us about it.

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We look at the effects of party politics. Is where

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we are today, while we're at each other's throats. This

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is why you know, I've said many times I love

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the idea of MAGA because make America great again. To me,

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it's non political, although it's been associated with Trump and

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the Republican Party, but I look at it as a

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01:18:36.000 --> 01:18:41.600
rallying cry for unity for all Americans and this party

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politics stuff. Yeah, it's just it's adversarial to our US

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constitution and what's in the best interest for all of us.

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We know our individual interests are not served by parties.

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That's right, That's right. And unfortunately, you know, we we

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are more divided really than at any time since the

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Civil War, I would say, And so your your insight

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on the dangers of hyper partisanship coming out of political

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factions is very very real, right, And unfortunately that's We've

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got to live this out and we've got to build

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the the make America great the MAGA movement needs to

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01:19:25.239 --> 01:19:28.239
basically usurp the party politics of the past.

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Right, Well, I hope so, and uh but you know,

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like you said, we've got to live this out, and

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01:19:34.640 --> 01:19:40.359
sometimes uh, stupid has to realize stupid, you know. And uh,

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you know, regardless of all the history and of course

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01:19:43.640 --> 01:19:45.800
all the information and this information age, we live in

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Scott I mean, there's no excuse. I mean it's like,

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01:19:49.000 --> 01:19:51.640
do do a little bit of studying here. I mean,

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01:19:51.720 --> 01:19:54.279
you know, when we declared that this is the government

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of for by we the people, it it really calls

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us into a position of prison reponsibility that in order

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to honor this gift of freedom, this gift, you've got

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to protect it, you know, till death do is part.

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01:20:09.960 --> 01:20:14.359
And you know people are just just real apathetic and

1384
01:20:14.399 --> 01:20:17.079
too casual about it. But all this is coming to

1385
01:20:17.119 --> 01:20:20.239
a head to have people realize, hey, you know what,

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01:20:20.279 --> 01:20:21.840
gravity still exists.

1387
01:20:22.479 --> 01:20:24.079
It does, it does.

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01:20:24.119 --> 01:20:26.279
And I think you know, we're you know, we're going

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01:20:26.279 --> 01:20:29.800
through some financial turmoil with the with the shutdown of

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01:20:29.840 --> 01:20:36.640
the government. What's going to happen when people's access to

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01:20:36.800 --> 01:20:39.760
food stamps is not you know, they pass the data

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01:20:40.439 --> 01:20:43.920
where there's no more funding and I think that's coming

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up very soon.

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Right, Well, you know, all these things are there, and

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01:20:49.720 --> 01:20:53.000
it's just you know, to me, again, the rules are

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01:20:53.000 --> 01:20:55.479
the rules. It's just like the constitution, the constitution, constitution,

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01:20:55.560 --> 01:20:58.680
those are the boundaries. We play within those boundaries. It's all, well,

1398
01:20:58.720 --> 01:21:03.159
there were rules that the Democrats want to rewrite. There

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was this period of time that was there, which was

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you know, accepted in the last cr because the appropriations

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committees needed to have this additional time in order to

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present the case back to the Senate body so that

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01:21:19.439 --> 01:21:22.279
they could vote on it. And Chuck Schumer and the

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01:21:22.319 --> 01:21:26.239
Democrats decided, you know, they wanted to pitch a fit

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01:21:26.840 --> 01:21:30.159
and looked at this as an opportunity to shut the

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government down and to put everything in danger here. But

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you know, this is this is other doing, Scott, this

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is self inflicted and this is why, I mean the

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takeaway how to be here is that the Democrats have

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demonstrated such a low level of responsibility in leadership you

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01:21:50.000 --> 01:21:52.840
cannot give them the keys to the car anymore. I mean,

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they need to go back to you know, some driver

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training education. I think.

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I couldn't agree more.

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But you know, when people are so you know, so

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ideologically driven, and they're driven by a sort of unhealthy

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personality disposition, call it a call it a person almost

1418
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a personality disorder that you have meat that you can

1419
01:22:23.159 --> 01:22:28.640
only perceive your political opponents, which who are your citizens?

1420
01:22:28.680 --> 01:22:29.439
These are citizens.

1421
01:22:29.479 --> 01:22:32.079
We're a big country and we're a very diverse country.

1422
01:22:33.039 --> 01:22:38.600
So it's if you simplify it down into hating anyone

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that supports Donald Trump. You're hating well, you know, well

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over half the country.

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Seventy seven millions are voted for him.

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Oh, by the way, that's right, and and that's not

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a good place to be really.

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That's why I'm saying that they don't deserve to be

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to be in this position of responsibility, and that up

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to the individual states and the constituency of these states

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to make it so, because you know, they're bringing pain

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to this country. You know, for what there was a process,

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the appropriations process. You you bring it to the floor,

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and then you debate it and work it out. That's

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the way the government works. Not so you sit there

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I'm going to throw a fit and shut the government down.

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Right right, So that's really it's really on. Everyone should

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understand that this government shut down and the turmoil that's

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been created has been created by the Democrat party leadership.

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And this is why these states they're being represented by

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these Democrats, should be calling en mass NonStop every day.

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Make one phone call, make one phone call and say

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this is unacceptable, open up the government and talk directly

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to your representative and flood their phone lines and their

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voicemail by so that they realize that you're taking note

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on this and that the onus is on them.

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Yes, and it's said that if you know, if a

1449
01:24:11.279 --> 01:24:15.840
congressman gets more than twenty phone calls on the same issue,

1450
01:24:16.960 --> 01:24:21.640
they take it seriously, right, because you know, the phone

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01:24:21.680 --> 01:24:24.680
lines rarely get flooded. Most people are apathetic and they

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take no action. But when phone lines get flooded on

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an issue, representatives take those calls seriously because they recognize

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that the people are speaking and that they may get

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voted out of office if they don't follow what their

1456
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people want exactly.

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01:24:41.680 --> 01:24:45.800
Well, that's their ambition is reelection. You threaten that reelection

1458
01:24:46.119 --> 01:24:49.520
and they start moving and think a little bit differently, right, Scott,

1459
01:24:49.800 --> 01:24:50.800
that's right, that's right.

1460
01:24:50.840 --> 01:24:51.880
That's how the system works.

1461
01:24:52.039 --> 01:24:53.760
Well, here you go, ladies and gentlemen. Now you know

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what to do. Scott Powell, that's a rap for us.

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He's the author, member of the committee on this Present

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danger and a senior fellow at the Discovery Institute. Mister Scott,

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thank you as always, God bless you a ton im

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Well, good morning, welcome back Bill Martinez here. Great to

1531
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have you with us. Also great to have our good

1532
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friend Ken Fisher back with us. Kenny hear us talk

1533
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about beyond Veterans Day, supporting our nation's heroes every day. Ken,

1534
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I love that idea. In fact, I just was talking

1535
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with a gold Star family father who has been igniting

1536
01:29:06.039 --> 01:29:09.560
a movement across the country, says Bill, you know, for

1537
01:29:09.760 --> 01:29:13.319
gold Star families, every day is a Memorial Day. And

1538
01:29:13.359 --> 01:29:16.720
I said, gosh, you're so right, George Lutz, and I

1539
01:29:16.760 --> 01:29:19.560
know your heart is the same way, and I appreciate

1540
01:29:19.640 --> 01:29:21.880
all that you're doing for veterans.

1541
01:29:22.000 --> 01:29:24.479
Well, thank you, Bill, and thanks for having me on.

1542
01:29:24.560 --> 01:29:27.760
You know, one you bring up a gold Star family.

1543
01:29:27.880 --> 01:29:31.840
One of the hundred houses that we have built over

1544
01:29:31.880 --> 01:29:35.079
the thirty five years of the program was at Dover

1545
01:29:35.159 --> 01:29:38.199
Air Force Base, where we've built not only a Fisherhouse,

1546
01:29:38.239 --> 01:29:41.800
but also a non denominational spiritual center right across the

1547
01:29:41.840 --> 01:29:44.399
street because there was no place for a family to

1548
01:29:44.479 --> 01:29:48.279
go and pray. So, you know, this is just one

1549
01:29:48.319 --> 01:29:51.640
of the ways that you know, the Fisher House helps

1550
01:29:52.039 --> 01:29:55.239
our veterans in our military community. But it shows you

1551
01:29:55.319 --> 01:29:58.680
how easy it is to get involved and be part

1552
01:29:58.720 --> 01:30:02.199
of the solution rather than somebody who points out problems.

1553
01:30:03.079 --> 01:30:05.399
Well, ladies and gentlemen. Ken Fisher, who's been on with

1554
01:30:05.479 --> 01:30:07.680
us many times over the years, is always great to

1555
01:30:07.680 --> 01:30:10.239
have him here with us. Is the chairman and CEO

1556
01:30:10.319 --> 01:30:15.039
of Fisher House Foundation, who highlights honoring service members that

1557
01:30:15.199 --> 01:30:19.119
requires ongoing and ongoing commitment, from mental health awareness to

1558
01:30:19.239 --> 01:30:24.520
easing financial and emotional burden on military families. This is

1559
01:30:24.840 --> 01:30:28.960
a holistic, all encompassing endeavor, right Ken.

1560
01:30:29.239 --> 01:30:30.560
It is Bill.

1561
01:30:31.159 --> 01:30:35.000
You know we've talked about, you know, Fisherhouse through the years,

1562
01:30:35.079 --> 01:30:38.119
and you know we've been we've been doing this together

1563
01:30:38.239 --> 01:30:40.680
now for a couple of years, and you know, every

1564
01:30:40.760 --> 01:30:43.399
year it seems like we learned something new from the

1565
01:30:43.479 --> 01:30:48.840
year before. For me, it was the statistic that I

1566
01:30:48.880 --> 01:30:52.640
still really can't believe, and that was the Brown University

1567
01:30:52.680 --> 01:30:56.560
study that highlighted the fact that since nine to eleven,

1568
01:30:56.880 --> 01:31:01.439
thirty one thousand veterans I've committed sue side as opposed

1569
01:31:01.479 --> 01:31:04.399
to seven thousand who died on the battlefield, making a

1570
01:31:04.479 --> 01:31:07.920
veteran four times is likely to die by their own

1571
01:31:08.000 --> 01:31:11.800
hand then on the battlefront from wound sustained on the battlefield.

1572
01:31:12.800 --> 01:31:16.800
You know, this to me is what Veterans Day needs

1573
01:31:16.840 --> 01:31:21.880
to be. Is a starting point for those of us

1574
01:31:21.920 --> 01:31:25.640
who don't know what services. Remember, only one percent served

1575
01:31:26.199 --> 01:31:29.359
since since nine to eleven, which means ninety nine percent

1576
01:31:29.399 --> 01:31:31.840
of us don't know what it is to put the

1577
01:31:31.960 --> 01:31:34.880
uniform on. They don't know what it is for a

1578
01:31:34.920 --> 01:31:39.399
family to serve this nation as well. And so you know,

1579
01:31:39.520 --> 01:31:42.960
every year we learned something new and and you know,

1580
01:31:43.039 --> 01:31:47.640
for me, it was just highlighting a very very horrific

1581
01:31:47.840 --> 01:31:53.439
and it's a travesty and a tragedy to have to

1582
01:31:53.520 --> 01:31:57.399
quote numbers like that. You know, when you think about

1583
01:31:57.439 --> 01:32:00.640
the sacrifices and the burdens that these men and women

1584
01:32:00.680 --> 01:32:02.359
have made and their families to.

1585
01:32:02.359 --> 01:32:10.279
Suffer exactly well, yeah, as you say, Ken, this is

1586
01:32:10.319 --> 01:32:13.960
the price for freedom that they paid for us, right,

1587
01:32:14.600 --> 01:32:18.680
that's right, And this is why it's important to support

1588
01:32:18.800 --> 01:32:22.119
vets and their families. And I'm glad that we're including

1589
01:32:22.479 --> 01:32:25.119
I mean the vets and the families, because the families,

1590
01:32:25.359 --> 01:32:28.039
it's not like they're detached. Their loved one goes and

1591
01:32:28.199 --> 01:32:31.199
answers the call for freedom, and they go out there

1592
01:32:31.239 --> 01:32:33.600
and the family is with them, even though there may

1593
01:32:33.640 --> 01:32:36.479
not be there in a combat zone. They're home praying,

1594
01:32:36.560 --> 01:32:39.600
they're hoping all the best that their loved one is

1595
01:32:40.159 --> 01:32:44.199
secure and protected. But this is why, you know, it's

1596
01:32:44.199 --> 01:32:49.039
important to support our vets and families beyond Veterans Day,

1597
01:32:49.520 --> 01:32:53.359
because it's not like our freedoms only are displayed on

1598
01:32:53.520 --> 01:32:54.399
Veterans Day.

1599
01:32:54.279 --> 01:32:55.920
Right exactly.

1600
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And you know what Bill services three hundred and sixty

1601
01:32:59.359 --> 01:33:03.439
five days year, seven days a week, twenty four hours

1602
01:33:03.439 --> 01:33:08.000
a day when they put that uniform on there fend

1603
01:33:08.039 --> 01:33:11.199
this nation with their lives. You know, when they go off,

1604
01:33:11.319 --> 01:33:14.479
we also need to take an oath that will take

1605
01:33:14.520 --> 01:33:17.239
care of them if they come back wounded, and we'll

1606
01:33:17.239 --> 01:33:19.399
take care of their families if they don't come back

1607
01:33:19.439 --> 01:33:22.560
at all. But for us to have, you know, this

1608
01:33:22.760 --> 01:33:27.159
kind of a situation where we are losing more from

1609
01:33:27.239 --> 01:33:30.399
this sector than in the civilian sector. We're now outpacing

1610
01:33:30.439 --> 01:33:34.600
the civilian sector in suicide. You know, it means that

1611
01:33:34.680 --> 01:33:37.359
we need to do a lot more, and that means

1612
01:33:37.439 --> 01:33:40.119
making sure that the VA has the resources that they

1613
01:33:40.199 --> 01:33:44.199
need to hire the health the mental health care professionals.

1614
01:33:44.560 --> 01:33:45.760
There's a shortage of that.

1615
01:33:46.239 --> 01:33:47.800
You know, we want to make sure.

1616
01:33:47.600 --> 01:33:50.760
That they're funded that they they can make a difference

1617
01:33:50.800 --> 01:33:53.319
because we you know, in this country, we become so

1618
01:33:53.520 --> 01:33:59.159
statistically driven, we're so driven by numbers. We forget that

1619
01:33:59.279 --> 01:34:03.239
behind every one about thirty one thousand men and women

1620
01:34:03.520 --> 01:34:07.079
that took their own lives is a family that suffered

1621
01:34:07.560 --> 01:34:12.239
with them, and their suffering didn't end when their loved one,

1622
01:34:12.680 --> 01:34:17.960
you know, did the ultimate act. Their suffering continues and

1623
01:34:18.039 --> 01:34:19.880
their children will suffer.

1624
01:34:20.279 --> 01:34:22.960
And you know, so we also need.

1625
01:34:22.800 --> 01:34:25.880
To think about what we're doing not only for the

1626
01:34:25.880 --> 01:34:28.960
one the man or woman that is having the transition

1627
01:34:29.119 --> 01:34:32.920
issues and is suffering in silence. We need to think

1628
01:34:32.960 --> 01:34:36.520
about what their families are going through after their loved

1629
01:34:36.600 --> 01:34:38.159
one has done what they've.

1630
01:34:37.920 --> 01:34:42.520
Done exactly to the day they die. Ken exactly, that's

1631
01:34:42.560 --> 01:34:46.119
my point, Bill, Yeah, exactly. Well, tell us about Fisher

1632
01:34:46.159 --> 01:34:49.439
House Foundation, and you know we've touched on it a

1633
01:34:49.479 --> 01:34:51.399
little bit more, but I really want to allow you

1634
01:34:51.800 --> 01:34:54.239
some more time to talk about all the great work

1635
01:34:54.399 --> 01:34:58.199
that Fisher House Foundation does on behalf of the military families.

1636
01:34:58.720 --> 01:34:59.279
No thanks.

1637
01:35:00.560 --> 01:35:02.840
You know, our core mission is you know, has always been,

1638
01:35:03.119 --> 01:35:07.760
you know, our lodging program where we build comfort homes

1639
01:35:07.800 --> 01:35:12.439
at the base, at the hospitals, VA and d D

1640
01:35:12.600 --> 01:35:18.239
hospitals for the families of servicemen and women and veterans

1641
01:35:18.239 --> 01:35:23.439
who have become sick ill or or sick, injured or

1642
01:35:23.560 --> 01:35:27.520
wounded in service to this nation can stay for no

1643
01:35:27.760 --> 01:35:31.359
charge for as long as the hospital state dictates. And

1644
01:35:31.439 --> 01:35:35.359
so you remove the financial burden for sure, But what

1645
01:35:35.600 --> 01:35:39.960
happens inside the Fisher House is something else that's very special.

1646
01:35:41.000 --> 01:35:44.479
The families learned that they are not going through this

1647
01:35:44.760 --> 01:35:50.600
very stressful situation alone, that there's other family members, you know,

1648
01:35:50.680 --> 01:35:53.239
in the same boat as they are. They support each other,

1649
01:35:53.359 --> 01:35:56.159
they help each other. So not only have we removed

1650
01:35:56.159 --> 01:36:00.920
the financial burden, we've helped them with the family. It

1651
01:36:01.000 --> 01:36:04.159
makes them better caregivers, and ultimately it makes the patient

1652
01:36:04.159 --> 01:36:06.680
a better patient because now they don't have to worry

1653
01:36:07.239 --> 01:36:10.000
about where their family is staying. So many times they

1654
01:36:10.039 --> 01:36:13.279
can look out their window and see the Fisher House exactly.

1655
01:36:13.520 --> 01:36:17.199
Well, we know, and the experts will tell us that

1656
01:36:18.359 --> 01:36:20.720
isolation is one of the worst things that can happen

1657
01:36:20.760 --> 01:36:23.920
for an individual who is dealing with depression and dealing

1658
01:36:23.960 --> 01:36:27.199
with PTSD and these other issues. And to have other

1659
01:36:27.239 --> 01:36:30.720
people who are going you know, through this, you know, together,

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is very encouraging and helpful in the process. Can We've

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got to wrap things up here, So I guess to

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wrap things up, tell people the simple ways that they

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can get involved and where they can go for more

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information on the Fisher Foundation, Well.

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Go to Fisherhouse dot org and you'll learn a lot

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and CEO of the Fisher House Foundation. Ken, as always,

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we appreciate the time God speaking, Thanks for bill here.

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And know that's a little fancy for me.

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Bill.

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Well, hey, you are well. I mean God made you

1753
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as a one and only you know that, right? Can

1754
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you buy that?

1755
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Yeah? Yeah, shaped in my mother's womb, designed by God.

1756
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You're right, yeah, exactly. And you know, we were just

1757
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talking before we went on air here, and I thought,

1758
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because before we came on, you know, we always pray

1759
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and say okay, God lead us and take us where

1760
01:41:55.800 --> 01:41:58.680
you want to go. And for the first time I

1761
01:41:58.720 --> 01:42:02.039
think in a long time, I was wondering, Okay, what

1762
01:42:02.079 --> 01:42:04.760
are we supposed to talk about? And I mentioned to

1763
01:42:04.800 --> 01:42:09.000
you that I happened to visit a pregnancy center in

1764
01:42:09.119 --> 01:42:13.560
West Palm Beach this past weekend and it was quite fascinating.

1765
01:42:13.560 --> 01:42:17.960
And you said, you just spoke for a pregnancy center

1766
01:42:18.319 --> 01:42:23.399
that had received a sonogram. And this has been something

1767
01:42:23.439 --> 01:42:27.800
that has been my vision for this past year in

1768
01:42:27.840 --> 01:42:32.279
getting some Knights of Columbus Knights and sur Knights together

1769
01:42:32.680 --> 01:42:37.399
to raise funds to purchase maybe three to five sonograms

1770
01:42:37.600 --> 01:42:40.000
and do it as a joint effort. And you're telling

1771
01:42:40.039 --> 01:42:43.399
me that you were at an event and you spoke

1772
01:42:43.439 --> 01:42:47.560
at this event, and this organization was very successful in

1773
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raising funds. I mean because right now, I mean, we're

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very fortunate. We've got two contributing sponsors matching sponsors to this,

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so we're looking forward to it. But I want you

1776
01:42:58.119 --> 01:43:01.039
to tell us about your story and then we'll talk

1777
01:43:01.079 --> 01:43:03.199
a little bit more about my impressions as well.

1778
01:43:03.239 --> 01:43:07.520
Go ahead, Well, I speak probably two times, sometimes three

1779
01:43:07.560 --> 01:43:12.760
times a year to women's pregnancy clinics that offer a

1780
01:43:12.800 --> 01:43:20.239
pretty comprehensive set of medically accredited services, and they're incredibly

1781
01:43:20.319 --> 01:43:25.119
safe and trustworthy. But when it comes to abortion, they

1782
01:43:25.119 --> 01:43:30.520
don't provide abortion, but they show the baby through ultrasound

1783
01:43:30.920 --> 01:43:34.840
and cynogram, to the bomb and more and more. They

1784
01:43:34.880 --> 01:43:39.319
show it to the usually the unmarried dad if they

1785
01:43:39.319 --> 01:43:42.279
can bring him in. So I was up in Watcombe County,

1786
01:43:42.279 --> 01:43:46.319
which is Bellingham, Washington, completely diagnal opposite from where you

1787
01:43:46.399 --> 01:43:52.800
were in Florida, and an area that is not churched,

1788
01:43:54.159 --> 01:43:57.479
and it has a lot of kind of progressive and

1789
01:43:57.920 --> 01:44:03.720
New agey tolerant thoughts. But those tolerant thoughts aren't very

1790
01:44:03.760 --> 01:44:09.720
tolerant to those who encourage life imagine that this organization,

1791
01:44:09.920 --> 01:44:17.399
the Watcom Pregnancy Clinic, serves young people on sexually transmitted

1792
01:44:17.760 --> 01:44:21.239
in infections so they can come in and get testing,

1793
01:44:21.960 --> 01:44:26.039
and then they help pregnant moms take a look at

1794
01:44:26.039 --> 01:44:29.239
the baby, look at their health, They give full exams,

1795
01:44:30.079 --> 01:44:34.359
They do counseling after a baby is lost or after

1796
01:44:34.520 --> 01:44:39.279
there has been an abortion, and then they do prenatal coaching,

1797
01:44:39.960 --> 01:44:43.800
and then they do early childhood coaching. And a lot

1798
01:44:43.840 --> 01:44:47.119
of these organizations around the country have developed pretty robust

1799
01:44:47.159 --> 01:44:50.920
fathering programs where they train these guys that don't even

1800
01:44:51.000 --> 01:44:53.840
think father. They just think, oh, down, she's pregnant, you know.

1801
01:44:54.159 --> 01:44:58.479
But many times the woman doesn't ask the man, who's

1802
01:44:58.520 --> 01:45:00.520
the dad, what do you think I should do?

1803
01:45:01.159 --> 01:45:01.359
Right?

1804
01:45:01.560 --> 01:45:05.920
And I think the research is that eighty percent of women,

1805
01:45:06.760 --> 01:45:10.159
if there was support from the men.

1806
01:45:10.560 --> 01:45:13.600
That from the father, that baby right father.

1807
01:45:13.960 --> 01:45:17.159
They would choose life. But dads think, I got to

1808
01:45:17.199 --> 01:45:18.600
stay out of this. I don't have a role.

1809
01:45:19.239 --> 01:45:22.000
And because it's not my body, it's her body, they've

1810
01:45:22.039 --> 01:45:25.119
been told. So they've been neutralized. Yeah, and then they

1811
01:45:25.159 --> 01:45:27.439
also also you get the thing, Jeff, where the women,

1812
01:45:27.760 --> 01:45:30.119
you know, they're embarrassed and they think it's their problem,

1813
01:45:30.199 --> 01:45:31.119
only their problem.

1814
01:45:31.479 --> 01:45:34.600
It is not I mean, you know, it's two people

1815
01:45:35.000 --> 01:45:40.000
to bring to conceive a baby. And I think the

1816
01:45:40.359 --> 01:45:43.079
world has just kind of told people that this is

1817
01:45:43.159 --> 01:45:48.279
just an inconvenience to get over versus the full perspective

1818
01:45:48.279 --> 01:45:53.279
that life is a gift comes from God, and you

1819
01:45:53.359 --> 01:45:57.680
have life because your mother for you, and whether your

1820
01:45:57.720 --> 01:46:01.720
father was active in the relationship or not, your life

1821
01:46:01.760 --> 01:46:05.399
is still meaningful. So we went to was a fundraiser

1822
01:46:05.399 --> 01:46:10.600
for the pregnancy clinic, and the heart of these people

1823
01:46:10.760 --> 01:46:13.479
is so compassionate and sometimes they take some flack. It's

1824
01:46:13.520 --> 01:46:17.439
a hard it's a hard job because people mischaracterize them.

1825
01:46:17.479 --> 01:46:20.079
They lie about them, They say that they, you know,

1826
01:46:21.680 --> 01:46:24.239
are mean, and they force women to go in one direction.

1827
01:46:24.399 --> 01:46:27.840
They do not force anyone. They serve compassionately.

1828
01:46:28.319 --> 01:46:28.520
Uh.

1829
01:46:28.560 --> 01:46:32.760
They bring empathy that is lacking in society for the

1830
01:46:32.800 --> 01:46:36.479
emotional side of what happens when you find yourself in

1831
01:46:36.479 --> 01:46:38.239
an unplanned pregnancy.

1832
01:46:38.359 --> 01:46:42.079
And it continues on the other side of the choice

1833
01:46:42.119 --> 01:46:44.720
that the woman has made. As you mentioned, they're counseling

1834
01:46:44.840 --> 01:46:48.760
women who are post abortive, whereas a planned parenthood. Let's

1835
01:46:48.800 --> 01:46:51.479
just say them because they're the you know, the name

1836
01:46:52.039 --> 01:46:56.359
of renown. You know, they got their five hundred bucks

1837
01:46:56.439 --> 01:46:59.239
and you're out the door, ostell Abishko baby. There's no

1838
01:46:59.359 --> 01:47:02.760
follow up, there's no concern about anything that this person

1839
01:47:02.960 --> 01:47:07.239
may endure post abortion. And the other thing that I found,

1840
01:47:07.279 --> 01:47:09.600
Jeff quite dramatically in sonogram, and this is why I'm

1841
01:47:09.640 --> 01:47:12.239
trying to get a group of Knights in our area

1842
01:47:12.720 --> 01:47:16.479
to support a fundraising effort, is that I was told

1843
01:47:16.479 --> 01:47:20.600
by the tech who does these sonograms that ninety seven

1844
01:47:20.720 --> 01:47:23.239
ninety eight percent of the women who see the baby

1845
01:47:23.279 --> 01:47:27.239
in their womb suddenly there is reality and all the

1846
01:47:27.319 --> 01:47:30.640
lies dissipate, that it's just a clumpas sells, it's meaningless,

1847
01:47:30.960 --> 01:47:33.680
and they say, oh my God, that's my baby, and

1848
01:47:33.760 --> 01:47:37.239
they decide and they choose life as a result of that.

1849
01:47:37.520 --> 01:47:40.560
This is why these sonograms are so important. And the

1850
01:47:40.600 --> 01:47:43.199
other thing that you mentioned so critically here is the

1851
01:47:43.239 --> 01:47:47.520
fact that you are co laboring with God in the

1852
01:47:47.640 --> 01:47:51.640
creation process. Think about that. This is why it is

1853
01:47:51.680 --> 01:47:55.159
so precious and sanctified and why we talk about it

1854
01:47:55.199 --> 01:47:59.479
in terms of sanctity of life, because you are working

1855
01:47:59.560 --> 01:48:04.000
with God Almighty to bring a new creation into being,

1856
01:48:04.399 --> 01:48:07.640
which is amazing, which is amazing because one of the

1857
01:48:07.680 --> 01:48:14.119
things that when they talk about when is when is

1858
01:48:14.159 --> 01:48:17.560
a baby a baby and when is it viable? And

1859
01:48:17.600 --> 01:48:21.159
it's amazing in the hour, in the first hour when

1860
01:48:21.880 --> 01:48:26.760
pregnancy takes place, okay, when the sperm and the egg

1861
01:48:26.840 --> 01:48:33.439
come together at conception, at conception, everything that that child needs,

1862
01:48:33.520 --> 01:48:36.199
that you need, that I needed to be who I

1863
01:48:36.239 --> 01:48:39.159
am today, happened in that first hour. Jeff.

1864
01:48:39.640 --> 01:48:45.880
That's amazing. But I'm encouraged that when you show the

1865
01:48:46.000 --> 01:48:52.439
truth and you don't pressure someone, and a sonogram and

1866
01:48:52.520 --> 01:48:57.199
a medical diagnosis and the truth that there are people

1867
01:48:57.239 --> 01:49:01.000
that can help you, you're not alone. That many young

1868
01:49:01.039 --> 01:49:05.239
women and hopefully the young man the father together can

1869
01:49:05.279 --> 01:49:07.720
make a choice for life. So I think that the

1870
01:49:07.800 --> 01:49:11.840
Knights of Columbus who do fundraise all across the country,

1871
01:49:11.880 --> 01:49:15.000
and they usually are the ones who have sponsored and

1872
01:49:15.039 --> 01:49:19.520
invested the sonogram or the ultrasound machines. But these organizations

1873
01:49:19.520 --> 01:49:25.600
they raise their budget for nurses and doctors who come

1874
01:49:25.640 --> 01:49:27.960
in a couple of days a week, and then a

1875
01:49:28.079 --> 01:49:32.439
counseling staff, and then educators who do pre middle education

1876
01:49:32.680 --> 01:49:39.000
and early childhood education and grief loss education. That's such

1877
01:49:39.000 --> 01:49:42.359
a great mission. You know and even if a person

1878
01:49:42.960 --> 01:49:46.600
ends up leaving and going ahead with the abortion they

1879
01:49:46.600 --> 01:49:49.760
plan to do, which today, unfortunately sixty five percent of

1880
01:49:49.800 --> 01:49:54.520
them are caused by the abortion pill. Yes, so the

1881
01:49:54.640 --> 01:49:56.399
value of having a group who can talk to you,

1882
01:49:56.560 --> 01:49:59.479
who can coach you, who can show you the baby,

1883
01:50:00.119 --> 01:50:03.600
who can give you classes is incredible. That can change

1884
01:50:03.600 --> 01:50:07.479
some decisions. So these organizations really need support. And I

1885
01:50:07.520 --> 01:50:10.199
commend you and the Knights of Columbus. And there were

1886
01:50:10.199 --> 01:50:13.359
a number of people from various churches, Catholic and lots

1887
01:50:13.359 --> 01:50:16.520
of evangelical churches up in the Northwest that came together

1888
01:50:17.039 --> 01:50:20.000
and we prayed, we talked, we told the stories, they

1889
01:50:20.079 --> 01:50:22.119
cast the vision and I think they raised two hundred

1890
01:50:22.119 --> 01:50:23.359
and twenty thousand dollars.

1891
01:50:24.000 --> 01:50:26.079
That's very cool. That's great well life.

1892
01:50:25.760 --> 01:50:27.640
For affirmation, for relationships.

1893
01:50:28.199 --> 01:50:30.920
Yeah, the Knights have given Jeff now over two thousand

1894
01:50:31.039 --> 01:50:35.319
sonograms across the country really growing over two thousand, wow.

1895
01:50:35.800 --> 01:50:38.479
And so and we're hoping to add to that here

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in the in the Palm Beach area. So we're excited

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to participate in that. And I'm encouraged to have you here.

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You know, have you speak of your experience in what's

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going on because the thing is is there's a lot

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more than just a columbus cells that you have extracted

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and torn out of your body. The lingering effects, and

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this is why Roe v. Wade was reverted. And women

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who have gone through abortions and some multiple abortions will

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tell you the truth that it does not go away.

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It's not a clean slate, because these women will tell you, yes,

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my child would have been eight years old today had

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he lived. I mean, you think about carrying the weight

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of that memory with you till the day you die.

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Jeff, I have a friend, Greg Mayo, and his ministry

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is to the dads who had a baby aborted and

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sometimes had no role in the decision whatsoever. And Greg

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now goes and speaks and helps men process that. Secondly,

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he helps these clinics get their fathering program started so

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that you can bring young men who typically might not

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have had a dad in their life or at least

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good mentoring. They haven't seen the full blueprints of marriage

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and covenant and love and sexuality fitting within that safe

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environment of marriage. And these dad programs are growing all

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across the country in the women's pregnancy centers, and it's

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one of the key programs. They actually go into the schools,

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and so did the one in Bellingham, Washington, and they

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teach healthy relationship and how to avoid risky sexual But

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avoiding risky sexual involvement is only a piece of the

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bigger pie, which is what do I say yes to.

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I say yes to healthy relationships that honor one another

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and allow for a marriage to happen someday and a

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baby end up with its mom and dad, And you've

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got to get the dads. You got to get the

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young men. That's why you and I are both so

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committed to a movement to help men turn around and

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start behaving like true men who.

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Love exactly response these young girls. Again, we've talked about identity.

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They need to appreciate and understand what their identity is,

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that they're absolutely precious, yes, and young men the same way,

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and what their identity is and what their role in

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this is. It's not as some sort of convenience, you know,

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sexual hookup Okay. And then the other thing is is

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the parents. I was thinking about this as well, Jeff.

1939
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I'm thinking, here's parents send their daughters to these, uh,

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these colleges that are hook up hook up joints.

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You know.

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Yeah, And wait a minute here, You've raised your child

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in a manner in which you know, honors God, and

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then you send her off into this den of inequity.

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What what do you think is gonna happen to this

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young girl? I mean, suddenly your responsibility to protect your

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daughter is just you set it by the wayside and

1948
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throw it to the wolf, so to speak. And young

1949
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men who go and they bought into this hookup culture

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and saying eha, you know, let's let's have a good

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time here, all at the expense of your daughter, her body,

1952
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her future, and your future grandchildren. I mean, uh, it

1953
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puts it all at risk. I think, you know, you

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and I the next week we'll talk further about this,

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because I think this is critical, you know, to get

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into this now. I'm glad that they're going into the

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schools and talking to the girls, and these boys who

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show that when they go to college and that that

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they're there as protectors of girls, that they're not predators

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of girls.

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Right.

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Well, my mission with men at men huddle is that

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men would receive their identity as a created human being

1964
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who through Christ is adopted as a son of a

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perfect father. Yes, if your identity is as a son

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of a perfect father who is loved. It gives you

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courage to be honest and open, to avoid the temptation

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and the sin, to say you're sorry and confess it

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when you mess up, and it gives you the wisdom

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to know that the next life, if you happen to

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get a girl pregnant, is incredibly valuable just like yours,

1972
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because you are a cherished son of Abba Father God.

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If we help young women know their identity that God

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made them they're relationally defined, not performance defined, and young

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men the same, then the respect for life and the

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child inside a young lady will be much higher. Not

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to mention, you start to have more respect for yourself

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and the girl before you have sex outside of marriage exactly,

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we will start to think sex is great, but it's

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designed in the safety and covenant of marriage.

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That and the design by Abba Father.

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Abba Father laid it out this way. He isn't boring,

1983
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He's not a curmudgeon. He wants joy. He invented the

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enjoyment of intercourse and sexual connection between a husband and wife.

1985
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But he just wants it to not have side effects

1986
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and consequences that lead to great heartache, which is what

1987
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the abortion movement. Sixty six million human beings, children, babies

1988
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have been ended and killed in their mother's womb and

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it's happening still through pills. Now, yes, exactly, we can

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turn this around. God turns negative things around. That's our goal.

1991
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And we have to talk to men and women about

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their identity as part of this.

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Bill, exactly, and we will continue to do that. Jeff,

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where can people go to be connected with you?

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Two? Men huddle dot com at menhuddle dot com will

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help men with their identity and deep friendship because they

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need teamwork to overcome these tough situations.

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Jeff Gap, Thank you, Jeff, take care, God bless you.

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Bye, Bill, thank you.

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