Oct. 27, 2025

The Bill Martinez Show 10 27 25

The Bill Martinez Show 10 27 25
The Bill Martinez Show 10 27 25
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Are you ready?

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Yeah?

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Ok, Ill Martinez Live a program about current events, our culture,

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our values, our politics, and our future. And now Bill Martinez.

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Hey, good morning America. Good to have you with us.

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Bill Martinez here along with doctor John Samarrick from stream

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dot Org. Hey John, how are we doing?

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Hi?

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Belle? I'm all right, all right.

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At a very interesting event last night. It was the

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Counsel for Counsel for Life of dubtas Okay, which raises

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fund has raised eighteen million dollars over the years for

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pro life services, Mother, Pregnant, Mother is Education all day.

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And the speaker that was scheduled was Charlie kirk Oh

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and we all were there under that shadow. And stepping

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into his place was Kristin Hawkins, leaders of Leader of Student,

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founder of Students for Life of America, which for my

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money is the single best pro life activist and educational

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group bar non. If you have to give money, if

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you have to volunteer to a national pro life organization,

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Students for Life of America, it's just making the most difference.

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It's for the doing for the pro life cause. What

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Turning Point USA was doing for the conservative political cause.

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And they're both operating for the gospel, and so CHRISTA.

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Hawkins stepped in Charlie's tragic shadow and gave a powerful talk.

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But it was quite the event.

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They showed us a video made by his closest friends

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and associates about his life, and they showed us the

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last few seconds when he was speaking.

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They didn't show us the grewsome stuff. But it was

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shocking and it was haunting.

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And it's hard to believe the country we're living in

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now what it's begun.

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And people are so casual. John I was mentioning this

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earlier on the college campuses. You know, people are so

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upset just because there's a you know, a sun's shelter, there,

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a little kiosk set up and people walking by, cussing

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at the turning point people and and saying, hey, watch

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your neck. I mean stuff like this. I mean this

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is And again I was reminded in today's gospel reading

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where Jesus said, look at I didn't come, you know,

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to to bring peace. I came to bring division. And

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this is exactly where we are today. Is there is

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a clear dividing line between those who are for God

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and those who are against God.

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If you want to groom kids to convince them to

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develop gendernice for you so they can become fodder for

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the transgender lunacy.

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I want division from you.

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If you want to kill babies out through birth, I

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want I'll bring the sword. There is no common ground

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with some people. There is no common ground between the

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left and the right in America. I don't see a

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way forward. I'd love to be shown it, and look

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God to show me a way forward of how we

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share a country with these people when they believe it's

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okay and celebrate the murder of a peaceful political activist

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right in front of thousands of people, if that's what

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they believe in, if those are the rules they want

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to play by, they're giving us Spain nineteen thirty six,

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where they were shooting priests and nuns and burning churches

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and digging up the bodies of nuns and desecrating their corpses.

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That's Spain nineteen thirty six. Do you give us that,

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We'll give you Spain nineteen thirty nine. That's when the

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good guys won, when Francisco Franco defeated the allies of

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Joseph Stalin who were murdering Christians and burning churches and

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destroying spain civilization. I don't want to see that repeated here.

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I don't want us to go through a Spanish civil war.

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But I'll tell you what, God, We're not going down quietly.

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We're not going to surrender. We're not going to let

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you put us into camps, which you know you are

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fantasizing about doing, because you do it all the time.

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You talk about it.

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You joke about shooting us, you joke about seducing and

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taking and corrupting our children. You burn our flag, you

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want to flood our country with illegal foreigners and let

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them vote. You have declared war on us. We will

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take you at your word.

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Right Well, John, you look at what they're doing. I mean,

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they're shooting up churches and killing you know, a little

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kid already in America. This is already happening, yeah, you know.

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And you know, and the deal up to now, up

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till recently, this was all happening overseas. You know, It's

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just it was over there, you know, we prayed, Oh,

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let's pray for them, and all this kind of Well

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guess what, now it's here, it's no longer existential, it's

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amongst us, and I tell you what.

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I thank God in America we still have the Second Amendment.

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I wrote a whole book, No Second Amendment, no First

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about how essential it is that we have private firearms

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to defend ourselves against the tyrannical government, against terrorism, against crime,

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against foreign invasion. The difference between America and Western Europe

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and Australia and Canada is that those peoples have been

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disarmed by their government.

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So they are.

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Essentially just waiting to see what the government's going to

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do to them, and all they can do is thoughts

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and prayers. They can, they can sing Kumbaya, but they

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really ultimately are.

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At the government's mercy, God willing.

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We never get there in America because our founders created

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the Second Amendment precisely as an emergency break glass in

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case of tyranny.

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That's with a fire axe.

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James Madison said it in the Federalists, If all the

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levers and wheels and break shoots and ladders and checks

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and balances that he had set up in that Rube

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Goldberg constitution of ours to prevent the rise of tyranny,

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if all that should break down, the last emergency, he said,

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an armed citizenry of a militia of half a million

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would be make it impossible for a tyrant to impose

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dictatorial power in America.

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Well, remember COVID.

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Remember how close they came closed our churches forcibly vaccidented

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us with an untested bioweapon for a disease that our

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government created itself in the lab in China, and that

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got released on us, and then they lied about it.

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We were under a totalitarian regime as bad as anything

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in Orwells nineteen eighty four during the COVID panic.

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But they'll be yet the left. But yet the left

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wants to accuse Trump of being a totalitarian.

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Yeah.

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I mean, it's like, do you even know what the

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definition is? I mean, we just had a stupid King's parade,

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King's Day parade. It's like, wait a minute, we haven't

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had a king here since seventeen seventy six.

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Hello, Well that was so stupid and lame. But there

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were plenty of incidents there, the incidents of horrible criminal

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behavior on the left. There was one speaker, he works

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for a college, I think in Chicago, and he got

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up at one of these rallies and talked about the

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need to murder ice agents to ambush them to conduct

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military ambushes. In Seattle, they were throwing fireworks and tear

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gas at the federal agents.

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Meanwhile, the local police.

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And the governor will not intervene and will not let

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the National Guardian to protect these federal employees. This is

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very closely akin to what happened in Fort Sumter in

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eighteen sixty one, when the state of South Carolina had

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decided to take a federal fort and fired on it.

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These people are behaving like Confederates, though with much less justification.

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Right. Yeah, And to add to all this, I mean,

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you get all this rhetoric, you know, coming from the left.

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You got activist judges impeding you know, law and order.

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And what is their answer, Oh, tell tell Trump to

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stand down, you know, let's not have the National Guard there. Well,

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i'll tell you what. DC is very happy. Mary ol

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Bowser is very happy that Donald Trump, you know, uh,

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brought in the National Guard. Now she's got a city

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that she's the mayor of that she can be proud of.

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Well, remember during it back in twenty twenty, at the

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depth of the COVID panic, when are we were locked

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in our homes and our restaurants were closed and our

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churches were closed, but the casinos and abortion clinics wide

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open for business in the work.

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George, is there essential, John? Those are essential, yes.

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George Floyd.

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Riots we're all over the and we were being told

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they were mostly peaceful and that they were not a threat,

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not super spreader events like Trump rallies or church at services,

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because remember the quote racism is a threat to public hell.

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Therefore anti racist demonstrations are not a threat to publack hell.

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That's my NPC voice.

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Yeah, thank you. Right.

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So, during the Democrat National Convention of twenty twenty, Kamala Harris,

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who'd been praising the riots a few days before and

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bailing out the rioters, including some of the committed felonies,

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suddenly the riots stopped, like they turned.

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Off a spigot.

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They stopped nationwide. You could have a nice, peaceful twenty

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twenty convention. And Michelle Obama went on TV and said,

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you think the riots and the chaos can't get worse,

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it can and if Donald and if you don't elet

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Joe Biden, it will so vote like you're life depends

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on it, because it does. That was like some mafia

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hood coming.

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Up to you and saying really nice, Uh, car you

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shame that. That was Micelle Obama.

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Hey, we're back with you, Bill Martinez here along with

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doctor Johnsthamericanstream dot Org. Well, John, I guess to put

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a ribbon if we can. I mean, because it's just

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this saga continues, Uh, you know, this madness so short

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of Jesus coming back and saying hello and parties over

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we're gonna we're gonna have to tolerate this. And this

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is why, more and more I keep reminding people the

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answer is not here on earth. We've got to get

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above it. We've got to go to the heavenlies. We've

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got to ask Father God. Okay, what is it right now,

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in the midst of all this craziness that's happening to

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your creation, what are we supposed to do as committed

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followers of Jesus Christ.

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Well, I'd say certain demons are only driven out with

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prayer and fasting.

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I'm not so good as fasting some other people. But

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the real war is the spiritual war.

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And when things happen that seem inexplicable, that don't even

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seem to be in people's best interests, that don't even

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seem like comprehensible temptations, that's when we have to realize, Okay,

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this part's spiritual warfare.

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I feel like what Candice someone has been trying to

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do to hijack Charlie Kirk's legacy spiritual warfare, Like she's

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either that crazy or this possess, and I'm seeing it

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with some other people. I think some of the stuff

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Tucker Carlson saying is way way over the top and

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around the bend, and his hostility to Israel and American

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Jews is really coming out in some ugly ways that

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I don't want to see the right in America become

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like the far right in Europe in the nineteen twenties

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and thirties. America is exceptional. America's country that's always welcomed

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and embraced and benefited from having Jewish people here. Our

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founders were the kind of Protestants who were very friendly

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to Jews. They very much identified the Puritans Pilgrims. They

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saw themselves as like the Israelites fleeing persecutions. So the

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Philosmitic nature of our founding Protestants was a very wholesome thing,

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and I think it's actually one of the reasons God

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has blessed this country.

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I don't want to let Israel Israel control our foreign policy.

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I don't want to be obsessed with Israel. I don't

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want American troops on the ground.

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I want us to be a friendly ally to Israel

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the way we are to France and England and NATO countries,

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where we don't get tangled up in their politics. But

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as of now, it seems like the enemies of Israel,

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and maybe some people getting money from Cutter, are trying

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to make everything about Israel, everything about the Jews, and

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it's not they are this obsessing. They are twisting our

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politics into a paranoid direction, and it's just going to

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destroy the conservative movement. It threatens to squash the great

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spiritual revival that was coming in the wake of Charlie

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Kirk's martyrdom. Suddenly, now everybody in his movement and in

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his wake are fighting over his mantle, and some of

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them seem to want to take it in a very

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very dark direction, such as Candace Owen and Nick Fuentes

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are going.

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give Candis Owens maybe that much credit. Yeah, I mean,

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you know, she's on her own, she had left turning point.

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It's clear there was a distinction there. And I think

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also when it comes to Israel, the reason there was

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this fraternal connection is because Christian the Old Testament is

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the Jewish Testament, you know, and that is that is

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part of our history and that we're blessed, we're blessed

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by that, and so we have that inherent connection. Not

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only that, but we know that this is God's chosen land.

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And where I get concerned about is that when America

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tries to butt in, you say about, you know, interfering

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with America's foreign policy. Well, America has no business interfering

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with Israel's foreign policy.

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Well the problem is we get ourselves involved, we know.

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And we leave ourselves vulnerable. Because John, there's two great

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books that were written John McTiernan was one of doctor

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John mcieeran and as done unto Israel, and he documents

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every time America has imposed their will on Israel's foreign

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policy and their land, we end up getting hit with

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a natural disaster within twenty four hours. It totals almost

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a trillion dollars worth of damage. John. Now, and it's

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not just once or twice. I think there's over a

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dozen documented incidents, events that have occurred on the hills

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of our presidents getting involved in sticking their nose into

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something that. And I think that sometimes I get concerned

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because I think Donald Trump, in his ambition to have

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Middle East peace, he's walking a fine line here, and

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I just pray that God would give him the wisdom

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to let Israel do what they need to do well

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the bill.

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The problem is Israel is not a modelith. There are

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many different factions inside him, different opinions, and Trump, i

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think wisely sees that the far right in Israel that

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wants no resolution, no settlement, would like to ethnically cleanse

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Gaza and take the land. That's not in Israel's best interests.

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The way marching into Russia was not in Napoleon's best interests.

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So if you were.

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Napoleon's true friend, you would say, hey, Bonaparte, don't march

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into Russia. It's really cold in the winner and you

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don't have winter closed. I feel like that's what Trump

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was trying to do to net Yahoo in the Israeli government.

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Don't invade Russia.

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It will destroy you.

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Don't invade Gaza, you mean, yeah.

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Don't annext Gaza and dump two million refuge refugees on

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the world, because you know what they'll all end up

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in Europe and America, filling the mosques, becoming terrorists, voting

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democrat running for mayor of cities like New York. I'm sorry,

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but we're not gonna take your Muslim refugees for you. You

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have to figure out a way to keep them once

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we get entangled in it bill. Unfortunately, we are entitled

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to a voice at the table. Maybe we shouldn't be

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some entangled to it in it while we are, while

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we're footing the bill and receiving the impact and the

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blowback of decisions made by one faction in the Israeli government,

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not the nation of Israel, but the fragile coalition government

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of Yahoo, then we have to have a veto because

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we're paying the tune.

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So it's a mess.

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I would like to see us less engaged and have

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Israel have more freedom of action, but that's not where

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we are.

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Yeah. No, I well that's the reality, and I get that.

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And I'm speaking of the situation. Yeah, I guess if

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there is an ideal situation.

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But no, no, there isn't.

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I mean, this part of the world has been the

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seat of conflict and spiritual warfare.

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You know, for thousands of years.

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It's Israel was always at the crossroad of empire, so

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it was always besieged from every side, the hit Heights,

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the Assyrians, the Egyptians, they than the than the Romans.

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They never got a break, which.

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God ha.

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You got.

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You gotta think that that God had planned it this

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way for a reason, right.

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Yeah, I think he likes to mess with us.

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I mean, certainly God he's kidding we know better, but yes,

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because well we know what will happen is that there

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will be a time, and I don't know, we seem

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to be getting close. Well, obviously each year we get

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closer and closure to it where it says that Israel

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will be living in peace without walls. And you see this,

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you know, with the Abraham Accords, you got four Arab nations,

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you got other nations in the queue saying hey, look

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at I want to set up a peace arrangement with Israel,

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but they can't do it until you know Gaza's resolved,

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right yeah.

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I don't know how they're going to get rid of Hamas.

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I mean, ultimately they need an Arab government to come

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in and do it.

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I'd like to reiterate my suggestion that Gaza.

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Should be given back to Egypt, and Egypt give it paid,

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pay bribe Egypt to do whatever it takes for them

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to take Gaza and clean out Hamas, because they will

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do it. The one thing Arab governments are good at

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doing is repressing their fellow Arabs and wiping out their

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dissonance and disappearing people in the middle of the night,

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and nobody cares because it's only when Israeli's or Western

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other Westerners, only when they're involved that they care about

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Arab lives.

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It's like the Democrats don't care.

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About black on black violence in our cities, killing thousands.

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Of people a year.

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But if one cop maybe arguably uses excessive force, we're

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going to burn down the country with riots. That tells

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you they don't think black lives matter. They think white

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scapegoats matter. And is really scapegoats matter?

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M yeah, exactly. Well, you know, as they say, time,

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time will tell how this, how this plays out. And meanwhile,

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you know, and I'm thinking with with the I mean

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the continuation. I mean you can say of genocide that's

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being done on Palestinians by Hamas, I mean they're killing

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their own people there.

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Well, again, they're trying to be an Arab government.

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So they're doing what Arab governments do, which is which

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is killed, dissidence, shooting down on the street, and torture

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their families. So they're they're they're earning their sovereignty card

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in the eyes of in their own eyes because that's

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what the Arab world tends to do there. How many

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what Arab countries would you call free democratic liberal?

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Can you think of one?

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No?

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Of course not, Yeah, there's not one.

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No, But those good old neocons are going to bring

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American style democracy to the Middle East. If we just

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bomb Iraq in Afghanistan long enough, they will turn into

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New Hampshire and start having town halls.

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I'm looking forward to it.

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Well, John, you know there's there's clear evidence and examples

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in history where that's been successful.

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Right, Sure, I guess with Germany and Japan, if you're

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willing to bomb a place into rubble and then occupy

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it for twenty years and just just totally trash its

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culture and remaking in your own.

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Image, then I guess so. But is it is it

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worth it? And is it really doable? And why would

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you bother?

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Why would you both? Right? Exactly when we've got problems

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of our own.

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We're barely we're barely running a democracy. Here are exactly

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what elections are being stolen using Venezuelan Marxist company software. Yeah, anyway,

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we'll talk about that next week. Bill god willing by

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the by next week maybe the Venezuelan communist government will

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be toppled and we'll have the evidence we need about

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election fraud.

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I write about this at stream dot or. I hope

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people will go.

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Check it out.

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Well exactly, and you know you got to you got

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to thank our navy man. They're taking some really nice

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target practice out there on those on those and you

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know those narco terrorists.

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Hey, good morning, Welcome Bill Martinez here along with doctor

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Paul ken Gore. Hey, doctor Paul, how you doing.

567
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I'm doing pretty good? Bill?

568
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How about you. Hey, I'm doing great all things considered.

569
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I mean, I'm being entertained by the Democrats that seem

570
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to have lost their ever lov and picking minds over

571
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this shutdown. Let's just shut it down. Put people in pain.

572
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We're gonna admit that we're putting people in pain. But hey,

573
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look at we've got political ends to meet in all this,

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and so the heck with the people, right, just feed

575
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them cake.

576
00:31:34.119 --> 00:31:37.480
Yeah, you know, it's very sort of Saul Olensky like

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I think. Yeah, yeah, it really is, you know, kind

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of you know, classic Olenski heights, you know, community organizing tactics.

579
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And we had a president who excelled at that, Barack Obama.

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You know, he was a community organizer from Chicago who

581
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studied Saulolensky's aptly titled Rules for Radicals. And they're showing

582
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or their radical stripes really pretty much everything that they do.

583
00:32:03.799 --> 00:32:07.160
And you know that would also include all these crazy

584
00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:11.799
no Kings protests and the anti ice protests. It seems

585
00:32:11.799 --> 00:32:15.920
like these people are basically you know, protesting, marching in

586
00:32:15.960 --> 00:32:20.400
the streets, agitated and on the verge of violence, of

587
00:32:20.440 --> 00:32:22.440
not committing violence at every turn.

588
00:32:23.119 --> 00:32:25.000
Well, and the thing is Paul, to your point here,

589
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this is all brought to you by the Progressive Democratic Party.

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I mean, this has been decades in the working. Yes,

591
00:32:32.359 --> 00:32:36.799
Obama was a clear pronouncement of it. Biden continued on

592
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with that mission, and now here we are in New York.

593
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I feel for these people. I mean, you can see

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the look on their face. They are afraid. They're scared

595
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that they're going to end up with this socialist, this

596
00:32:49.960 --> 00:32:55.599
Marxist individual as a mayor of the country's biggest city.

597
00:32:56.079 --> 00:32:58.599
Well, and they probably are, and that would be much

598
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deserved for the city and people of New York.

599
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I mean, that's he's going to get.

600
00:33:03.799 --> 00:33:05.640
I don't know that'll get a majority of the vote.

601
00:33:05.640 --> 00:33:08.200
I don't know that it'll get fifty percent plus. Oh no,

602
00:33:08.240 --> 00:33:11.079
I mean it depends on how this all shakes out.

603
00:33:11.160 --> 00:33:14.839
But you know, New York has been the longtime home

604
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of Communist Party USA Democratic Socialists of America, which this

605
00:33:20.319 --> 00:33:23.400
guy is one of those, right, and you know all

606
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these different agitators. In fact, just to skip back to

607
00:33:26.920 --> 00:33:30.559
the No Kings protests for a moment, if you look

608
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at the list of different comrades who supported that Saturday morning,

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October eighteenth, it was everything from the a c l

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U to move on dot org, to the SEIU, the

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Service Employees International Union, to the American Federation of Teachers.

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And you know, you would think that an organization of

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teachers would know that, no matter how much you hate

614
00:33:55.519 --> 00:33:57.799
Donald Trump, we don't have a king.

615
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Governing.

616
00:34:00.599 --> 00:34:03.039
You would think the educated class would know the difference,

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right at least?

618
00:34:03.880 --> 00:34:06.640
Right, Yeah, what does that say about the people that

619
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are teaching our kids?

620
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Right?

621
00:34:08.360 --> 00:34:10.840
I mean, we know they don't know what a fascist is.

622
00:34:10.960 --> 00:34:13.599
I mean they've made that clear over and over again.

623
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Or a woman for that matter, stay tuned for details.

624
00:34:16.960 --> 00:34:19.719
Right, right, that's right, I guess. Yeah. Then again, you know,

625
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for a.

626
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Group of people that don't know what a male or

627
00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:24.920
female are, the difference between the two, I guess they

628
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wouldn't know the difference between a president and the king.

629
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But but yeah, no, you know, this is the kind of.

630
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Radicalism we're seeing everywhere. And I found it very fitting

631
00:34:33.599 --> 00:34:36.960
last night, Bill that as that debate was going on

632
00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:42.920
between Mom Donnie and Angry Andrew Cuomo and Curtis Leewaw,

633
00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:48.159
my my teenage son was showing the podcast videos of

634
00:34:48.199 --> 00:34:51.280
one of the kind of you know, young gen zer

635
00:34:51.440 --> 00:34:57.360
guys that he follows who was walking along with some

636
00:34:57.599 --> 00:35:00.960
anti ice protest group, and the guy who's on our

637
00:35:01.079 --> 00:35:05.400
side was of course physically assaulted. There's, you know, never

638
00:35:05.480 --> 00:35:08.159
be any doubt that that would happen. So the left

639
00:35:08.159 --> 00:35:11.159
does when you disagree with him, they they scream at you,

640
00:35:11.239 --> 00:35:12.800
accuse you of hate, even if.

641
00:35:12.639 --> 00:35:15.559
You're smiling when you're talking to them, right, then they.

642
00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:17.960
Hate all over you, and then they start pounding you

643
00:35:18.079 --> 00:35:21.920
and in some cases, like Charlie Kirk, even get assassinated.

644
00:35:22.360 --> 00:35:22.800
Exactly.

645
00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:25.760
But this is the left, you know, the left has

646
00:35:25.800 --> 00:35:26.599
always been like this.

647
00:35:26.760 --> 00:35:30.039
The left has always been the movement of violence, and

648
00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:33.920
the idea that you know, the quote unquote right has

649
00:35:33.960 --> 00:35:36.599
been the group of violence. No, the left has long

650
00:35:36.679 --> 00:35:43.360
prevailed in violence, French revolution, Bolshevik revolution, Leftists, Socialist Trotskyists,

651
00:35:44.079 --> 00:35:48.840
Marxist Stalinists, you know, on on down the line, and

652
00:35:49.800 --> 00:35:51.960
we're seeing it again today in America.

653
00:35:52.239 --> 00:35:55.079
Yeah, it's a familiar pattern, no doubt. I mean, you know,

654
00:35:55.119 --> 00:35:59.719
as I mentioned earlier, the very policies that the Democrats,

655
00:35:59.800 --> 00:36:02.320
who it's I mean, and I get some people say, well,

656
00:36:02.360 --> 00:36:04.280
it's both sides, you know, I hate that both sides

657
00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:07.039
deal but by and large, it has been the Democrat

658
00:36:07.119 --> 00:36:10.599
policies that have been enacted that have caused a lot

659
00:36:10.679 --> 00:36:14.880
of pain, especially for these young kids. And they don't

660
00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:18.679
quite understand how capitalism works. They don't understand what Trump

661
00:36:18.760 --> 00:36:22.559
is doing to save their bacon, to give them an

662
00:36:22.639 --> 00:36:26.360
economic future. And so now you've got a guy who's

663
00:36:26.440 --> 00:36:29.559
handing out candy. Hey, I'll give you this. This is free,

664
00:36:29.599 --> 00:36:32.280
this is free. You know, he's the the Oprah Winfrey

665
00:36:32.280 --> 00:36:35.800
of Manhattan, handing out everything. And these kids, all they

666
00:36:35.840 --> 00:36:37.559
know is they're in pain, and this guy's going to

667
00:36:37.639 --> 00:36:41.440
relieve some of that pain. But like all things socialism,

668
00:36:41.760 --> 00:36:45.880
it's only temporary and they never deliver on their promises,

669
00:36:46.440 --> 00:36:51.920
and what ends up developing is shared misery. And if

670
00:36:51.960 --> 00:36:55.440
it's really runs its course, then we're talking human carnage

671
00:36:55.480 --> 00:36:55.880
as well.

672
00:36:55.960 --> 00:37:00.480
Right, Well, yeah, and mom, Donnie and his Democratic socialists,

673
00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:03.480
you know, Democratic Socialists in New York, we're going to

674
00:37:03.559 --> 00:37:06.400
literally be getting out candy at their government stores, right

675
00:37:06.960 --> 00:37:09.800
and they and they pushed these government stores as a

676
00:37:09.840 --> 00:37:13.920
solution to inflation. Well, if they maybe stop to pause

677
00:37:13.920 --> 00:37:16.519
to look around a little bit. Since Trump has come

678
00:37:16.519 --> 00:37:21.360
into office, inflation is way down two years ago under Biden,

679
00:37:21.440 --> 00:37:22.960
it was the highest that it had been since the

680
00:37:23.039 --> 00:37:26.079
Jimmy Carter years. And you know it was during that period.

681
00:37:26.119 --> 00:37:28.320
And I got news for you folks. And once again,

682
00:37:28.760 --> 00:37:32.360
socialists wouldn't understand this because they don't understand economics. But

683
00:37:32.480 --> 00:37:36.159
you don't reduce socialism, you know, by creating government stores

684
00:37:36.159 --> 00:37:39.679
and increasing big government. I mean, you know, to quote

685
00:37:39.760 --> 00:37:45.800
that nationalists socialist German Workers Party leader Adolf Hitler.

686
00:37:46.199 --> 00:37:48.000
You know, Hitler said.

687
00:37:47.760 --> 00:37:50.559
Inflation, What do I have inflation to worry about for

688
00:37:50.639 --> 00:37:52.800
where I've got my stormtroopers.

689
00:37:52.119 --> 00:37:55.880
To take care of, right exactly. That's not that's not.

690
00:37:55.880 --> 00:37:58.800
The way it works. You know, government doesn't step in

691
00:37:59.320 --> 00:38:02.000
with a cudge or government.

692
00:38:01.679 --> 00:38:04.280
Stores or whatever and cut inflation.

693
00:38:04.360 --> 00:38:08.719
I mean, what cuts inflation is a prosperous free market economy.

694
00:38:09.199 --> 00:38:12.440
And you don't have a prosperous free market economy when

695
00:38:12.480 --> 00:38:17.719
you have heavy government and socialism, even democratic socialism.

696
00:38:17.920 --> 00:38:20.039
Right. Well, and you bring up a good point here.

697
00:38:20.119 --> 00:38:23.760
Adolf Hitler was able to control the angry mobs because

698
00:38:24.360 --> 00:38:28.000
he was oppressive. Mom, Donnie is high on charm, but

699
00:38:28.039 --> 00:38:31.960
I don't see him having an oppressive element. I mean,

700
00:38:31.960 --> 00:38:34.800
there's only so much you can do when the natives

701
00:38:34.840 --> 00:38:36.519
get restless.

702
00:38:36.840 --> 00:38:37.039
Yeah.

703
00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:40.679
Well, and also I mean yeah, in fact, Mussolini as well, Right,

704
00:38:40.800 --> 00:38:45.559
all these differs right quote unquote fascists, Well, they were fascists,

705
00:38:45.559 --> 00:38:48.760
but they were socialist fascists, and Mussolini had been a

706
00:38:48.760 --> 00:38:52.239
full blown Marxist before he took over in nineteen twenty two.

707
00:38:52.480 --> 00:38:55.760
But in Mam Donnie's case, yeah, you know, the people

708
00:38:55.760 --> 00:38:57.760
with the guns around Mom Donnie.

709
00:38:57.480 --> 00:38:59.000
Which I guess would presumably be.

710
00:38:59.480 --> 00:39:02.719
The ny PD, Well, those are guys with guns who

711
00:39:02.719 --> 00:39:06.639
are good guys, and ma'n Mom Donnie and his ILK

712
00:39:06.719 --> 00:39:09.280
don't like them, right, they want to abolish the police.

713
00:39:09.880 --> 00:39:10.000
Uh.

714
00:39:10.079 --> 00:39:13.000
You know, in fact, probably I bet eighty to ninety

715
00:39:13.000 --> 00:39:17.039
percent of the guys in the NYPD are probably you know,

716
00:39:17.440 --> 00:39:20.880
probably voting for well, probably voting for Curtis Sleewak probably

717
00:39:20.920 --> 00:39:24.840
right exactly. They're they're Trump supporters, They're not Democrats, They're

718
00:39:25.079 --> 00:39:29.360
they're probably largely Republicans, and you know they're targeted by

719
00:39:29.480 --> 00:39:32.840
the Democratic socialists as much as the free market is.

720
00:39:33.039 --> 00:39:35.760
You know, that's that's the whole abolish the police crowd.

721
00:39:36.280 --> 00:39:39.679
So when gets in, yeah, I mean, there's it's not

722
00:39:39.760 --> 00:39:41.280
going to be any force at all.

723
00:39:41.320 --> 00:39:42.480
It's probably going to be.

724
00:39:42.480 --> 00:39:47.519
So hands off with with with with law enforcement that

725
00:39:47.639 --> 00:39:50.320
is probably going to see a wild spike in crime

726
00:39:50.760 --> 00:39:52.760
like you saw in Portland and other places.

727
00:39:52.840 --> 00:39:56.320
Oh exactly, exactly, Hey, Paul, help people understand for the

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every man, I mean, they hear terms like you know, communists,

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hard core Marxist fascists. I mean, the bottom line for them,

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it's shared misery, isn't I mean to kind of put

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it in a couple of sentences or two, you know,

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in terms of what's the difference.

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Yeah, well that's exactly right, and I mean democratic socialism. Look, look, socialism,

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according to Marxist Leninist theory, was the final transitionary.

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Step to communism.

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Yes, so all of history would go through these different

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to communism. So the socialist aspires to communism and you

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get these modern day you know, democratic socialists who say, oh, well,

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we wouldn't support that. I mean, we're not Marxists and

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we're not even really true socialists, we're democratic socialists.

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But I would tell everybody listening.

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Go to the website of the Democratic Socialists of America,

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which is mom Doni's group, and for at least ten

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years running. And I know this because I take screenshots

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of it and I teach this stuff and I lecture

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on it. They've described themselves as quote the largest socialist

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organization in the United States, and that phrase democratic. Lenin

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favored democracy. Lenin favored what he called democracy. You know,

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his definition of it was was, you know, economic equality.

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That's what they mean by democracy, right, exactly, democracy that's equality.

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And that's kind of how the modern day American left

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supports it as well. When they talk about democracy, they're

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not talking about like First Amendment, freedoms and Jefferson and

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Madison and Bill of Rights. They mean equality. And so that, yeah,

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that could be you know, economic equality, environmental equality. It

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could be gender equality, transgender equality. You pretty much all

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professor of political science at Grove City College in Grove City, Pennsylvania.

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So to summarize this first segment in terms of where

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we are right now, you know, as a result, I

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still maintain because of democratic policies, that's what's given rise

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to this socialism and really has brought them all out

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of the closet. Paul, I mean, look at it. I

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mean they're fully exposed, whether it's Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer,

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go right on down the line. I mean, of course,

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who already k you about Bernie, But they're all you know,

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they're all coming to this corner. I don't know how

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they redeem themselves, you know, And I think the party

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itself is going to end up having to receive some

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sort of wrecking ball experience. I ever going to be

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relevant again?

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Yeah, and they will because they never fight the extremists

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in their own circles on their own side. And for

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a while, a few years ago, I could tell you

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Bill that the Nancy Pelosi types be as liberal as

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she is, she was still the fairly traditional Democrat, right,

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she went back like forty years right into the party.

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Joe Biden to one point was you know, a fairly

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traditional moderate Democrat at one point even supported the High

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Amendment against you know, you know, abortion funding right at

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one point, I mean Biden went back to late nineteen seventies,

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uh for you know, first get it first getting elected.

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But for a while, they they were very concerned and

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trying to keep this sort of democratic socialist element from

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hijacking their party. But like they inevitably do, they eventually

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just give way to the radicals and let the entire

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far left grab and hijack their party and take him

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in whatever direction on any issue, abortion, transgenderism, gender ideology,

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and now democratic socialism. And you know they they just

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and and and also their vot they're voters aid and

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a betted. I mean, I mean, to be fair, I've

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met a lot of a lot you know, one time,

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long time Democrats who eventually got so sick and tired

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of this that they.

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Left the party. And a lot of them now support Trump.

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But so many others, and I've seen them over the years,

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especially older Democrats people you know, their seventies and eighties.

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d because yeah, that's what they did, It's what their

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parents did, It's what their grandparents did. The Democrats were

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the Party of labor, the Party of the little guy,

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all that stuff. And you know now they don't realize

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it's the party of AOC and Bernie Sanders and mom Donnie.

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Well, you know, they're so associated with factionalism. Paul, you know,

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which are first President warned us about maybe just maybe

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this might be an opportunity for America to do away

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with parties and factions. I don't know, maybe it's just

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so ingrained in this human construct this side of heaven

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that we can't do it. But if we were able

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to truly be unified. We got to get out of

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this partisanship that's going on here. And I don't know.

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just have found a way, like cockroaches, to grow another

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head and keep mating. I guess I don't know.

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Well, I don't know.

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I mean the dinosaur metaphor, right, I mean, I guess

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you could apply that maybe thirty or forty years ago.

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When you had I mean at one point in.

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In fact, I don't even think you would need one hand.

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I actually can't name one at this point, I can't

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name even one. Joe Manchin wasn't too bad on the issue.

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He's out.

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I mean, that's how bad they are, right exactly.

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we got about five minutes left here, and you wrote

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something that has been heavy on my heart for a

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long time here. In fact, originally it was spurred on

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by a book by you would remember Peter Crieft. He

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on the Eucharist. And you know, so as I have

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you know further, you know, just you know, been executing

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I discovered through another book that only a third of

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Catholics actually believe that the Eucharist is the body and

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blood of Jesus Christ. And you write, dear Pope Leo,

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we need an encyclical on the Euchrist Amen.

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Yeah, yeah, we do because so many Catholics don't understand it.

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And I will say the numbers are better for Catholics

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who go to Mass weekly, but even then it's not

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much better. I think if it's a majority, it's maybe

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like fifty percent something like that. Daily Mass Catholics. For them,

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because they believe they're receiving the Little Jesus. But yeah,

966
00:53:23.320 --> 00:53:27.760
but huge numbers of Catholics, especially post Vatican Two, don't

967
00:53:27.800 --> 00:53:31.679
understand what their own church teaches. And I mean there's

968
00:53:32.000 --> 00:53:34.039
a lot I could say about that. It even goes

969
00:53:34.079 --> 00:53:37.760
down to things like people going up to receive communion

970
00:53:37.800 --> 00:53:40.840
in the hand. Right when I was when I first

971
00:53:40.880 --> 00:53:42.840
when I when I came into the church, when I

972
00:53:42.880 --> 00:53:45.639
when I was first received Holy Communion as a little

973
00:53:45.719 --> 00:53:48.760
boy in the early nineteen seventies, you went up to

974
00:53:48.800 --> 00:53:51.320
the rail and you kneel, right, you didn't.

975
00:53:51.519 --> 00:53:55.119
Touch that, right. But people today, I mean, you know,

976
00:53:55.199 --> 00:53:56.000
you might as well.

977
00:53:56.039 --> 00:53:58.280
You could probably put a drive through on the side

978
00:53:58.280 --> 00:54:00.559
of the church and call it Macjesus and have him

979
00:54:00.599 --> 00:54:02.599
come up and you can put on a little plate

980
00:54:02.639 --> 00:54:05.000
and have him take it home at a styrofoam container.

981
00:54:05.880 --> 00:54:07.199
No reverence there at all.

982
00:54:07.800 --> 00:54:11.280
And yeah, I think that the new pope who clearly

983
00:54:11.360 --> 00:54:14.639
understands the real presence and has a great reverence for it,

984
00:54:15.079 --> 00:54:18.119
especially with his understanding of Saint Augustine. He calls himself

985
00:54:18.119 --> 00:54:20.400
the son of Augustine, right exactly.

986
00:54:20.760 --> 00:54:22.800
Yeah, I think he could really.

987
00:54:23.079 --> 00:54:26.639
Do a lot of good with maybe an encyclical Apostolic exhortation,

988
00:54:27.320 --> 00:54:31.679
some basic catechesis teaching people, teaching the flock, right, what

989
00:54:31.679 --> 00:54:32.519
it really means.

990
00:54:32.679 --> 00:54:35.559
Yeah, you're you're exactly right, because the thing that the

991
00:54:36.039 --> 00:54:40.199
church has going forward, and I've said this, you know

992
00:54:40.679 --> 00:54:45.679
for years that its sense of holiness has has just

993
00:54:45.840 --> 00:54:49.119
been it's in the dna of the Catholic Church, right,

994
00:54:49.159 --> 00:54:51.280
you know, I've often said that, you know, with all

995
00:54:51.320 --> 00:54:53.760
the denominations, you know, we can learn certain things.

996
00:54:54.039 --> 00:54:54.239
You know.

997
00:54:54.800 --> 00:54:58.239
Protestants, I love the fact that they're free in praising

998
00:54:58.280 --> 00:55:04.159
God and you know, it's a celebrations, it's it's really uh,

999
00:55:05.159 --> 00:55:08.239
it's just very neat the way they have that. And

1000
00:55:08.280 --> 00:55:11.079
I think the Catholics can learn from that, and I

1001
00:55:11.119 --> 00:55:15.440
think the Protestants can learn from the reverence of being

1002
00:55:15.480 --> 00:55:17.519
in the presence of God and what it is to

1003
00:55:17.559 --> 00:55:20.320
be a church, because you still go to Catholic Mass

1004
00:55:20.440 --> 00:55:23.079
and there is a reference, there's there's quiet. You go

1005
00:55:23.159 --> 00:55:26.320
to a Protestant function and it's like in some cases

1006
00:55:26.360 --> 00:55:28.119
almost like you stepped into a night club or.

1007
00:55:28.079 --> 00:55:31.559
Something totally totally that's right, with really loud bands and

1008
00:55:31.599 --> 00:55:33.480
percussions and it's.

1009
00:55:33.320 --> 00:55:34.800
A cause and all that.

1010
00:55:34.920 --> 00:55:36.760
You know, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know.

1011
00:55:36.800 --> 00:55:38.960
I don't like that lack of a feeling of a

1012
00:55:39.000 --> 00:55:41.519
sense of sacred And I know people say, well, you know,

1013
00:55:41.559 --> 00:55:43.719
you can go to Jesus however you want, you can

1014
00:55:43.760 --> 00:55:46.480
meet your Bible. I know, I know, but still when

1015
00:55:46.559 --> 00:55:49.079
when I go into a church, but really really.

1016
00:55:49.519 --> 00:55:52.400
But Paul, but but would you would you go to

1017
00:55:52.480 --> 00:55:55.599
Jesus that way? I mean, think about it? And it's like,

1018
00:55:55.679 --> 00:55:58.039
you know, even like today, I'm sitting here, I'm looking

1019
00:55:58.079 --> 00:56:00.760
at the cross there above the all I'm looking at

1020
00:56:00.800 --> 00:56:06.239
it and I'm saying, what what an unreal depiction? Because

1021
00:56:06.239 --> 00:56:09.880
when Jesus was on the cross, he was so beaten

1022
00:56:10.000 --> 00:56:13.519
up and torn apart, but we show him so clean

1023
00:56:13.599 --> 00:56:15.880
and yes he's hanging on the cross, his nails and

1024
00:56:15.920 --> 00:56:18.519
all that stuff. But this is the cleaned up version.

1025
00:56:19.079 --> 00:56:19.639
This is a.

1026
00:56:21.400 --> 00:56:24.039
Thank you, thank you, Lord for what you did for me.

1027
00:56:24.159 --> 00:56:25.239
Look at what they did.

1028
00:56:25.039 --> 00:56:27.880
To you, right exactly.

1029
00:56:27.199 --> 00:56:29.920
And if you were to meet Jesus in person, you

1030
00:56:29.960 --> 00:56:34.920
would you would be on your knees right very before

1031
00:56:34.960 --> 00:56:36.000
the God, the Father.

1032
00:56:36.239 --> 00:56:37.960
Right, you would be on your knees.

1033
00:56:38.000 --> 00:56:41.840
I think, I think you would feel innately compelled to

1034
00:56:42.000 --> 00:56:46.800
drop to your knees right, even fall prostrate. Right you

1035
00:56:46.840 --> 00:56:49.559
wouldn't stand there and you know, you know, play the

1036
00:56:49.559 --> 00:56:50.559
guitar for him.

1037
00:56:51.079 --> 00:56:56.760
Right right, well exactly. And so again I appreciate what

1038
00:56:56.840 --> 00:56:59.679
you wrote. And it really, like I said, it really

1039
00:56:59.719 --> 00:57:01.920
cannet with me because this is something that I have

1040
00:57:02.039 --> 00:57:05.639
been in prayer about and earnestly seeking, because I mean,

1041
00:57:05.679 --> 00:57:09.119
look at even when Jesus told the disciples and the

1042
00:57:09.119 --> 00:57:13.880
apostles that unless you eat of my body and drink

1043
00:57:13.920 --> 00:57:16.119
of my blood, you cannot enter the Kingdom of heaven.

1044
00:57:16.320 --> 00:57:19.119
People freaked out. They exited stage left. They couldn't they

1045
00:57:19.159 --> 00:57:22.639
couldn't comprehend it. They this was their lack of understanding

1046
00:57:22.880 --> 00:57:23.840
of Almighty God.

1047
00:57:23.960 --> 00:57:26.800
Right, And they and Jesus didn't say, wait a second,

1048
00:57:26.800 --> 00:57:29.679
why are you leaving? I'm just talking figuratively here, right,

1049
00:57:29.800 --> 00:57:32.480
I'm just talking symbolically. Then they've been like, oh, okay,

1050
00:57:32.480 --> 00:57:35.599
well that's cool, right, right, right, But that is it's

1051
00:57:35.639 --> 00:57:38.800
like no, I said, you know, this is my flesh.

1052
00:57:38.920 --> 00:57:41.320
They're like, well, we can't accept this. He's like, well,

1053
00:57:41.360 --> 00:57:43.400
I'm sorry. Then you got to go by the way.

1054
00:57:43.440 --> 00:57:46.960
The passage and scripture where they say that is John

1055
00:57:47.320 --> 00:57:53.000
six six six. It's the only three sixes right right.

1056
00:57:53.000 --> 00:57:53.960
In the New Testament.

1057
00:57:54.239 --> 00:57:57.079
And it's at that point that they leave Jesus because

1058
00:57:57.119 --> 00:57:58.199
they won't accept this.

1059
00:57:58.239 --> 00:57:59.880
Hard teaching of his right.

1060
00:58:00.159 --> 00:58:04.360
Yeah, Paul and Corinthians says, anybody who doesn't see this

1061
00:58:04.400 --> 00:58:07.280
as the actual body and blood of Christ brings judgment

1062
00:58:07.719 --> 00:58:11.559
upon himself. Right, you profane the Eucharus by seeing it

1063
00:58:11.840 --> 00:58:14.760
as something other than the body and blood. So there's

1064
00:58:14.800 --> 00:58:18.960
scriptural basis for this. Open their hearts and minds and

1065
00:58:19.000 --> 00:58:20.239
dig in and really look at it.

1066
00:58:20.559 --> 00:58:22.920
Well, ladies and gentlemen, Dear Pope Leo, we need an

1067
00:58:23.280 --> 00:58:26.480
encyclical on the Eucharus. You can read all about it.

1068
00:58:27.000 --> 00:58:30.199
A Crisis magazine is where it's featured right now, Redpong.

1069
00:58:30.280 --> 00:58:31.039
That's right, yep.

1070
00:58:31.119 --> 00:58:33.760
Check it out, Dear pop Leo, Crisis Magazine. That's a

1071
00:58:33.760 --> 00:58:37.679
great publication. They do two articles per day, always good stuff.

1072
00:58:37.920 --> 00:58:42.639
Yeah, crisismagazine dot com. Check it out for yourself and hey,

1073
00:58:42.719 --> 00:58:45.639
let us know your thoughts. Doctor Paul Kengar, Professor of

1074
00:58:45.639 --> 00:58:48.880
political science at Grove City College in Grove City, Pencilvani

1075
00:58:48.960 --> 00:58:51.000
Paul is always appreciate the time. God bless you.

1076
00:58:51.320 --> 00:58:53.400
Take care, God bless Bill. Thanks take care.

1077
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1096
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1097
01:00:08.320 --> 01:00:11.880
Bill Martinez here with John Fleetwood from John Fleetwood dot Com. Hey, John,

1098
01:00:11.880 --> 01:00:12.360
how are we doing?

1099
01:00:12.360 --> 01:00:12.719
Hey?

1100
01:00:12.760 --> 01:00:13.559
Bill doing great?

1101
01:00:13.559 --> 01:00:14.559
How are you hey?

1102
01:00:14.760 --> 01:00:17.320
Just checking on you man. Is everything okay in Tennessee?

1103
01:00:17.360 --> 01:00:20.559
Everybody calm. They're not upset about the demolition of the

1104
01:00:20.559 --> 01:00:23.280
White House, who's paying for it, how much they're paying

1105
01:00:23.320 --> 01:00:23.639
for it.

1106
01:00:25.679 --> 01:00:28.639
No, we're not worried about any White House renovations. We're

1107
01:00:28.679 --> 01:00:32.519
just enjoying the weather. October is easily one of the

1108
01:00:32.519 --> 01:00:37.079
most beautiful, enjoyable months out here, at least in Middle.

1109
01:00:36.880 --> 01:00:38.599
Tennessee, just south down Nashville.

1110
01:00:38.639 --> 01:00:40.679
So we're just thank you for the good weather.

1111
01:00:41.320 --> 01:00:44.159
You see what's happening, See people see the football games

1112
01:00:44.159 --> 01:00:48.440
there and kind of like remember January, you would have

1113
01:00:48.519 --> 01:00:52.360
the Rose Bowl in California, right, because both of us

1114
01:00:52.960 --> 01:00:56.480
former California boys, and it was like a Chamber of

1115
01:00:56.519 --> 01:01:01.159
Commerce advertisement for California, and people would say, oh my gosh,

1116
01:01:01.199 --> 01:01:02.760
what am I doing here in this kind of weather

1117
01:01:02.800 --> 01:01:06.119
when they've got blue skies and sunshine in California? Right,

1118
01:01:06.159 --> 01:01:08.079
And a lot of them moved out there, but then

1119
01:01:08.119 --> 01:01:11.199
they got exposed to the politics, and now they're trying

1120
01:01:11.199 --> 01:01:16.480
to find another home, right, Yeah, but so many other

1121
01:01:16.519 --> 01:01:19.000
things to be concerned about. It's kind of interesting how

1122
01:01:19.039 --> 01:01:22.000
the media just finds something like a dog and a

1123
01:01:22.039 --> 01:01:25.280
bone that they go after, and they're just fixated on

1124
01:01:26.000 --> 01:01:28.960
the renovations of the White House. But you know, for

1125
01:01:29.039 --> 01:01:30.840
me personally, I think it's going to be a beautiful thing.

1126
01:01:31.159 --> 01:01:33.400
I like the fact that it's not coming out of

1127
01:01:33.400 --> 01:01:38.440
the taxpayer's pocket, you know, so hey, let's let's get ready,

1128
01:01:38.519 --> 01:01:42.840
and you know it'll be a fantastic, uh you know

1129
01:01:43.159 --> 01:01:45.639
facility once it's once it's all done, because you know,

1130
01:01:45.719 --> 01:01:48.320
Donald Trump will put his touches on it without a doubt.

1131
01:01:49.119 --> 01:01:49.320
Yeah.

1132
01:01:49.360 --> 01:01:52.400
I don't even know what the main concern is. I

1133
01:01:52.480 --> 01:01:54.719
thought the left was all about tearing down the old,

1134
01:01:54.800 --> 01:01:56.239
you know, out with the old and with the new.

1135
01:01:56.840 --> 01:01:59.400
Let's take let's tear down this this old system. I mean,

1136
01:01:59.400 --> 01:02:01.960
they would probably we say that there's something inherently racist

1137
01:02:01.960 --> 01:02:04.960
about the White House. So shouldn't they be you know,

1138
01:02:05.079 --> 01:02:07.400
happy that it's that it's coming down. I thought they

1139
01:02:07.440 --> 01:02:09.679
loved the destruction of Western civilization.

1140
01:02:10.440 --> 01:02:14.199
John, I'll tell you what. You try to, you know,

1141
01:02:14.239 --> 01:02:17.400
have a discussion with the maniax on the left, and

1142
01:02:17.440 --> 01:02:19.320
you're in a bucket of gum. I mean, it just

1143
01:02:19.320 --> 01:02:22.119
doesn't make sense, you know, it just because they can't

1144
01:02:22.119 --> 01:02:24.679
figure it out, because you know, they wanted, like you said,

1145
01:02:25.199 --> 01:02:28.280
out with the old, in with the new, let's get

1146
01:02:28.400 --> 01:02:32.719
rid of statues and uh, you know, iconic statues there

1147
01:02:32.760 --> 01:02:35.400
in DC. All of a sudden, now the president is

1148
01:02:35.559 --> 01:02:39.360
uh uh you know, updating the White House, and boy,

1149
01:02:39.360 --> 01:02:41.760
they're up in arms about it because it's just, you know,

1150
01:02:41.800 --> 01:02:42.920
the focus is Donald Trump.

1151
01:02:43.000 --> 01:02:43.239
That's it.

1152
01:02:43.360 --> 01:02:48.039
They're they're just absolutely mad over Donald Trump. And I'm

1153
01:02:48.079 --> 01:02:52.320
pretty much prescribed to that that understanding, and uh, you know,

1154
01:02:52.400 --> 01:02:54.559
moving on, because we've got other things to talk about

1155
01:02:54.599 --> 01:02:59.159
right right certainly certainly in our case right now. And uh,

1156
01:02:59.559 --> 01:03:01.519
you know, you got a lot going on here. We've

1157
01:03:01.519 --> 01:03:05.760
got to over one hundred BSL for bioweapon labs now

1158
01:03:05.800 --> 01:03:07.920
operating worldwide. We're going to talk more about that, but

1159
01:03:07.960 --> 01:03:11.360
before we do, the USDA has declared bird flu a

1160
01:03:11.440 --> 01:03:13.559
permanent emergency. What is going on?

1161
01:03:14.480 --> 01:03:16.880
Yeah, so this is this is happening in the context

1162
01:03:16.960 --> 01:03:21.639
of a couple people like myself and doctor Richard Bartlett,

1163
01:03:21.679 --> 01:03:24.400
who for a couple of years have been looking at

1164
01:03:24.400 --> 01:03:26.760
bird flu and seeing what they're doing with it. They've

1165
01:03:26.800 --> 01:03:29.480
They're always talking about different diseases all the time. Here

1166
01:03:29.800 --> 01:03:33.440
measles over here this time of year, chicken gunya this

1167
01:03:33.599 --> 01:03:35.719
time of year. Maybe a little monkey pox over here,

1168
01:03:35.760 --> 01:03:38.800
a monkey pox, and ian and Bolas scare in the

1169
01:03:38.840 --> 01:03:41.079
news over here, maybe going on in Africa. So they're

1170
01:03:41.079 --> 01:03:44.519
always they're always playing this thing where they're pushing out

1171
01:03:44.519 --> 01:03:48.679
different diseases for different reasons. But this is happening in

1172
01:03:48.719 --> 01:03:53.440
the context of an understanding that the very same UH

1173
01:03:54.000 --> 01:03:59.079
strategies that were used pre COVID right exactly are happening

1174
01:03:59.159 --> 01:04:02.239
right now for or bird flu. With COVID. You had

1175
01:04:02.480 --> 01:04:07.000
Anthony fauci Is the head of NIAID, funneling money to

1176
01:04:07.039 --> 01:04:10.639
gain a function experiments on COVID, while the government was

1177
01:04:10.679 --> 01:04:16.599
also developing a COVID vaccine since the early twenty tens,

1178
01:04:16.639 --> 01:04:20.239
with Maderna making a COVID vaccine. So they were creating

1179
01:04:20.280 --> 01:04:22.840
the problem and the solution at the same time. And

1180
01:04:22.880 --> 01:04:24.920
if we give everybody the benefit of the doubt, the

1181
01:04:25.360 --> 01:04:29.199
this this you know, pathogen you know, accidentally leaks out,

1182
01:04:30.000 --> 01:04:33.039
causes a pandemic, kills one point two one point three

1183
01:04:33.079 --> 01:04:37.639
million Americans. That's a lot of deaths. That's it's more

1184
01:04:37.639 --> 01:04:42.039
than double the American deaths during the I guess the

1185
01:04:42.039 --> 01:04:44.719
Second World War was only a couple hundred thousand, or

1186
01:04:44.880 --> 01:04:47.519
was a couple one hundred thousand Americans. This was a

1187
01:04:47.559 --> 01:04:51.199
million Americans. So we're talking many times, not just two times,

1188
01:04:51.239 --> 01:04:51.880
many times.

1189
01:04:52.039 --> 01:04:54.320
Twice twice Vietnam at least, I mean, I think.

1190
01:04:54.360 --> 01:04:58.239
But anyway, so it's it puts things in perspective because

1191
01:04:58.239 --> 01:05:00.679
when people think about world wars, the think of lots

1192
01:05:00.719 --> 01:05:03.000
of deaths, and they think COVID. Yeah, it was a

1193
01:05:03.079 --> 01:05:04.599
virus and it killed a lot of people, but it

1194
01:05:04.639 --> 01:05:08.159
doesn't reach you know, war level. Well, actually it surpasses

1195
01:05:08.480 --> 01:05:12.360
past war level by so and that's if we're just

1196
01:05:12.400 --> 01:05:18.480
buying the mainstream story about COVID. Okay, so what caused it? Well,

1197
01:05:18.519 --> 01:05:23.079
the White House, Department of Energy, CIA, FBI, multiple intelligence

1198
01:05:23.079 --> 01:05:25.679
agencies from around the world say that it likely happened

1199
01:05:25.719 --> 01:05:30.239
from a laboratory leak of one of these pathogens that

1200
01:05:30.360 --> 01:05:33.320
was souped up with this gain of function research that

1201
01:05:33.440 --> 01:05:36.519
made they tinker with these viruses in the lab. They

1202
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make them more infectious, more deadly, and that's what caused

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the covid pandemic. Well, that very same system of we're

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souping up a pathogen while at the same time developed

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developing this this vaccine for it. And by the way,

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we're dumping billions and billions of dollars from the US

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and from other countries all around the world into bird flu,

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not chicken gun you, not monkey pox, n aunty bowl,

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specifically bird flu. So that's the context. And now we

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have yet another domino falling that makes it look like

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the bird flu pandemic future bird flu pandemic orchestration is

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in the work, because now you have the United States

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Department of Agriculture. They've put out this document in the

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context of this government shut down. When there's a government

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shut down, obviously funding will not go to certain things,

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and they have to know whittle it down and say

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these are the really important things, the essential things.

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Is the way the government talks.

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Right exactly, these are the essential things just to keep

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the lights on. Well, they don't just want to keep

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the lights on, they want to ensure that the USDA

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is able to direct funding specifically to bird flu again,

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not chicken gunya, not monkey pox, not a bola. They've

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got bird flu in this this document that's called the

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Lapse of Funding Plan. This is as of September thirty,

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twenty twenty five, so this is a you know, recent document.

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And then you scroll down to these sections brief summary

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of significant agency activities that will continue during the lapse

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and they have highly pathogenic avian influenza on the list.

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And this comes on the heels of earlier this year,

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the USDA had rolled out a billion dollar bird flu plan.

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The USDA just that one agency announced a billion dollar

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bird flu plan. That's not even mentioning the half a

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billion dollar bird flu vaccine Project Generation gold Standard that

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Trump is working on Biden last year. This spans multiple administrations,

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So this is an operation that's that's you know, multi administration.

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It's not just the Trump admin. Before that you had

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Biden and Biden signed into law. And this is Congress too,

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because Congress has to write the bills and then the

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president signs it. So our Congress, Democrats and Republicans, passed

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a bill that allocated over another billion dollars to a

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avian influenza pandemic. So this this has been happening for

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a long time, and we have, unfortunately in the works,

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just like we did with COVID pandemic, orchestration happening, and

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here with the with the USDA declaring bird flu a

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permanent emergency. Even during a shutdown, you have all the

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infrastructure in place that you need for the government to

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you know, be able to manage a bird flu pandemic.

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So unfortunately, my outlook is there's probably going to be

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another accidental right.

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Yeah, yeahs to be stirring up. We've got to go

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to a quick break. We'll pick it up on the other side.

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Welcome back Bill Martinez here with John Fleetwood from John

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Fleetwood dot Com. Uh yeah, I mean this is it

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seems like we're being worked again.

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Yeah right, yeah, And you know it's it's all about

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lessons learned.

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And yes, I use that in a.

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Different on both sides, John, on both sides. They learned

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from us what our response would be, right, and we've

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learned from them as well. But we've got to keep uh,

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we've got to keep up with them because they are

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constantly innovating and working out ways. Well, let's just say

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to perfect the new mouse trap, right.

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Yeah.

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And when they say lessons learned, if you type in

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lessons learned and COVID into the Google search bar, what

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the mains, what the establishment, and what the machine want

1351
01:14:25.199 --> 01:14:29.960
you to think, that means is, uh, we've learned better

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ways to lock down, we've learned better ways to mask,

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we've learned better ways to vaccinate, we've learned better ways

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to social distance, and all the fake things that they

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made up. That's what they're that's what they mean when

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they say lessons learned from the COVID pandemic. For the

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average person, they would say a lesson learned is well,

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if the government's action of taking my tax dollars and

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gain of functioning a pathogen is what led to the

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COVID pandemic, and obviously there should be no more gain

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a function There shouldn't be any more of these biosafety

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level for biosafety level three laboratories anymore. But unfortunately what's

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going on is they're dumping more funding into that. So

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when they say lessons learned about COVID, it's not it's

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not the common sensical thing of we should not be

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doing gain a function. It's we've learned better how to

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you know, come and govern you even harder?

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Should it?

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Should there be another pandemic?

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Yeah, that's the endgame. It's their agenda. You know, you

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said something here and I don't know if it just

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slipped out this way or not by accident, but it

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really threw up a flag for me. And that is

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you refer to it as the machine. You know, we

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go to the machine for information AI and Google and

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so we go there. So uh so this concerns me

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because who's controlling Google? If you know. So, what we've done,

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we've we've executed an exchange. We went from a clearly

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biased media, mainstream media, to now we're going to have

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a controlled electronic artificial intelligence entity machine that is going

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to tell us what we need to know and what

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we should believe. Right, I mean, I just see this

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starting to play out. Am I missing something here?

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John?

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No?

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Artificial intelligence is a big is a big part of this.

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Prump announced his massive Stargate artificial intelligence program. This is

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artificial intelligence is going to proliferate every single industry. It's

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going to make people really rich. I think I saw

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one of the Trump sons say it's already made them

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billions of dollars or something like that investing in these

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kind of technologies, or maybe that was bitcoin. But we know,

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you know, this artificial intelligence is going to make people

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a lot of money. It's going to be useful. I

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think it's something we should use. But you know, there

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have also been reports that I've reported on at John

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Fleetwood dot com where these artificial intelligence systems are allowing

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people to be able to create things like bioweapons. It's

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teaching them how to actually create these these weapons, right, so,

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you know, and then there's the problem of it going rogue.

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You know, if it calculates that for some reason, whoever's

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programming it, or these kind of Malfusian depopulationists, you know,

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great reset thinking people and it is you know, then

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we have something something to worry about. But you're right,

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it's all about who. Okay, it's a machine, but a

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machine is something that is created created by whom and

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for what reason? And how is that machine being being

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a separate These are these are good things to you know,

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to understand going forward.

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Yeah, we have to we have to move cautiously. But again, uh,

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you know, this is an infringement on our first Amendment, right,

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we know that free speech is critical, and so it's

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up to a uh a discerning electorate to be on

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top of their game. You can't let up because guess what. Yeah,

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maybe Fauci's not in the headlines anymore, but you got

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these mad scientists still in the background of fulfilling I mean,

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that agenda hasn't gone away.

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Right, Well, let let me prove exactly what you're saying.

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Fauci was there to fund coronavirus gain a function, and

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you know the government simultaneously creating that coronavirus vaccine. Well,

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Fauci's out now, Well who took his place as head

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of NIAI D. It's a doctor named Jeffrey Tobenberger. Jeffrey

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Tobenberger famously has reconstructed the Spanish flu virus and has

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been doing all kinds of experiments, actually infecting human beings

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with influenza viruses with live influenza viruses. They say it's

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for testing vaccines, but nevertheless, you know this is essentially

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human experimentation. And what is Tobenberger doing. Well, we've been

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talking about bird flu. How does Tobenberger line up with

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bird flu? Tobenberger owns a patent on the BPL, which

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stands for beta propial lactone technology behind the Trump administration's

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half a billion dollar bird flu vaccine creation. They're trying

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to move away from the mRNA vaccines because it's getting

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so much bad press. They're saying, oh, we're going to

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this whole virus BPL platform for vaccines now. While oops.

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Turns out, BPL according to US and European international agencies

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coming from the United Nations and World Health Organization, BPL

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is classified as a Class two B carcinogen in the

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01:19:47.800 --> 01:19:52.119
US and a Class one B carcinogen over in Europe,

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01:19:52.159 --> 01:19:56.760
which means that it's it doesn't just possibly cause cancer

1440
01:19:56.800 --> 01:19:59.880
and humans, it's assumed to cause cancer in humans because

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they've already done the studies and they know it causes

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cancer in mammals like rats and guinea pigs and mice.

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01:20:06.119 --> 01:20:11.199
So this is all to say that Fauci, though they

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01:20:11.239 --> 01:20:13.840
moved him out. This is how the machine works. They

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01:20:13.880 --> 01:20:15.840
if you take one cog out, you can just put

1446
01:20:15.840 --> 01:20:18.199
another cog in. They've taken Fauci out, and they've put

1447
01:20:18.800 --> 01:20:22.800
Tobenberger in. He is directing us funding to gain a

1448
01:20:22.840 --> 01:20:28.520
function reverse genetics experiments creating Frankenstein chimera. This is all

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in peer review. I only cite peer review. I just

1450
01:20:31.279 --> 01:20:35.239
cite what they say. Tobenberger is funding this with our

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tax dollars, making a bird flu.

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That they say.

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Former CDC director Redfield says bird flu will be way

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more deadly than the COVID pandemic, will cause much more

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disease just cause it has something like a forty to

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fifty percent mortality. And the new Fauci, so to speak,

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in Tobenberger is doing that simultaneous gain of function research

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creating the problem, while also holding a patent on the

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Trump administration's half a billion dollars solution. So there's a

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there's a conflict of interest. There's national security uh issues here,

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there's the informed consent issue because they're not being forthright

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with us about this BPL technology that they're saying is

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better than MR and a well, turns out it's it's

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classified as a carcinogen. So that's the way the machine works.

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If we took out the you know, the if if

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if they were moved out of the picture for some reason,

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they you know, they retired or whatever, uh klau Schwab

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and Bill Gates and George Soros. Even if you move

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these guys out, you've still got this machine run by

1470
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these you know, shadowy international players that they have a

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they have an agenda in mind. They this the COVID

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pandemic was very lucrative. Pandemics are very lucrative. They they

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made they made Bill Gates billions of dollars in his people,

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billion trillions of dollars.

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And show what that seven million people plus worldwide died.

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It's it, you know, accomplished multiple that accomplishes multiple tasks

1477
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because it puts lots of our dollars in their pockets.

1478
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Plus it accomplishes their depopulation agenda. Bill Gates famously said

1479
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on film during a Ted talk, he meant, he you know,

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this is a Ted talk. So they he has people

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write scripts for him and they think about the words

1482
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they use a lot. And on stage he said, if

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we do a good enough job. With vaccines, we can

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lower the world's population by ten to fifteen percent. And

1485
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when a billionaire who has as much power in backing

1486
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as Bill Gates says something like that, you want to

1487
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listen to him and you want to trust him. So

1488
01:22:44.680 --> 01:22:48.239
vaccines play a part in these these people's minds with

1489
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the depopulation agenda, which if anybody doesn't know what that means,

1490
01:22:51.760 --> 01:22:57.399
it means making the population go down. And it's it's

1491
01:22:57.439 --> 01:22:59.640
not hard to imagine how these vaccines can do it,

1492
01:22:59.720 --> 01:23:03.760
like these BPL based ones. When you understand that BPL

1493
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is classified as a carcinogen and BPL we have other vaccines.

1494
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We know there's a there's a there's a vac there

1495
01:23:11.239 --> 01:23:15.039
are multiple vaccines like arabies vaccines that are made with BPL.

1496
01:23:15.039 --> 01:23:17.880
All kinds of vaccines are and they've done the studies

1497
01:23:18.520 --> 01:23:21.760
and this BPL beta propial lactone that they say is

1498
01:23:21.880 --> 01:23:29.039
only in the manufacturing process, it ends up contaminating the vials.

1499
01:23:29.079 --> 01:23:31.359
It's like if you wash something in your sink. You

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wash a plate with don dish soap, you wash it

1501
01:23:34.840 --> 01:23:36.840
and you you know it's clean enough for you to

1502
01:23:36.880 --> 01:23:40.760
put your own food on it. If you do an analysis,

1503
01:23:41.000 --> 01:23:44.960
like a forensic analysis on that plate. You're gonna see

1504
01:23:45.000 --> 01:23:47.640
there there are a little bit there are minute bits

1505
01:23:47.760 --> 01:23:50.479
of don dishaps still on that plate though you washed

1506
01:23:50.520 --> 01:23:53.439
it really well with hot water. That's the same idea here.

1507
01:23:53.479 --> 01:23:56.399
They say they're using beta propial lactone to kill and

1508
01:23:56.399 --> 01:23:59.119
inactivate the virus, and oh no it yeah, it's not

1509
01:23:59.159 --> 01:24:00.960
supposed to go in the vaccine, but it ends up

1510
01:24:01.000 --> 01:24:06.039
in there. And we're understanding, Bill, We're understanding very clearly

1511
01:24:06.520 --> 01:24:10.319
that vaccines can be contaminated. You have with the covid

1512
01:24:10.359 --> 01:24:15.479
jab Ladipo over in Florida, the Florida Surgeon General advising

1513
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against as a state, he advised against the covid vaccines

1514
01:24:20.039 --> 01:24:23.880
specifically because of contamination. These these contaminants were sometimes in

1515
01:24:23.920 --> 01:24:27.479
the order of five hundred to six hundred times federal

1516
01:24:27.520 --> 01:24:30.159
limits over here in the US and even according to

1517
01:24:30.199 --> 01:24:34.159
European agency. So contamination is a problem. It does plague

1518
01:24:34.560 --> 01:24:40.159
the beta propial lact on the BPL based vaccines. So unfortunately,

1519
01:24:40.199 --> 01:24:43.520
this this massive bird flu push from the the Trump

1520
01:24:43.560 --> 01:24:50.880
administration is riddled with a very serious carcinogenic problem. But

1521
01:24:52.039 --> 01:24:55.439
we're we're watching it, and we know because we have

1522
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learned people investigators like you and myself. We've done the

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work to understand and the true lessons that should have

1524
01:25:02.479 --> 01:25:06.079
been learned from COVID and and now we're applying them

1525
01:25:06.079 --> 01:25:08.119
to what they're doing with bird flu. So we know

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01:25:08.359 --> 01:25:10.680
we already know doctor Bartlett and I, we already know

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which drugs can treat bird flu. We don't need an

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emergency use authorization, which, by the way, the FDA promised

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they would use an emergency use authorization specifically for a

1530
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bird flu JAB if if there were to be a

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you know, bird flu pandemic. We don't need any UA

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because we have safe and effective.

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FDA approved the count the fluza.

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Ivermectin, budest and I. These things work against viruses like

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bird flu, so we're prepared.

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Yeah, exactly. Well, we got to leave with there for now.

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John Fleetwood, John Fleetwood dot com. John, thanks for all

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the information. Is great. Look forward to having you back

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because you know the updates will keep coming, you know.

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So absolutely thanks for having me on Bill.

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Thank you buddy. Take care all right.

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Hey, we're back with you, Bill Martinez here. Great to

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is loaded to bear. Let me tell you, Lindsay, welcome

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to Schewe good to have you with us.

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Hi Bell, it's great to be here. Thank you for

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having me.

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Well, great to have you here, because here it is

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already can't believe it. A holiday shopping season is underway

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and tech is at the top of everyone's list. And so,

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as the gifting expert, we're here with our number two taekwondor,

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Right, Yes, it is great to be here. Thank you

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so much for having me.

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Okay, well, Lindsey, what advice do you have to help

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people's shop smarter this season?

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Yeah?

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So my biggest advice is to really focus on gifts

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Well exactly fifty percent. Huh, that's a big number.

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It's a big number. It goes up every year.

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Yeah, So you got to you got to keep those

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Right, exactly exactly.

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Well, we know families are gathering for the holidays, so

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how can we make that time more fun and connected?

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Right?

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the fact that we can maintain connectivity, I mean, because

1663
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what was it. I mean even last year you'd get

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families together, get off the internet. You're interrupting my game,

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you know, chugger me off here, right?

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Mm hmmm yeah, Oh, I sill joke to my kids

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we would fight over who could get on the one computer.

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So you know, yeah, you know.

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You're getting old but remembering stories like I'll tell you, well,

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let's talk about smart tech gifts that are going to

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help us save money this year. What do you recommend?

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Yeah, so everyone's always looking for ways to save and

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especially on those things that you use every day. So

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compared to the big three carriers. So it's such a

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smart way to save without giving up quality. Perfect for

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holiday travelers who want the premium service without the premium

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price tag.

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Well exactly, while we're talking with the gifting expert and

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founder of the Gift Insider, Lindsay Roberts is with us. Lindsay,

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tis the season for sports. What ideas do you have

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on your list for our sports fans?

1687
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Yeah, so this one is always fun and something they're

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going to thank you for all throughout the year. So

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for the sports fans and the family, Expinity's entertainment features

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make it easy to keep everyone happy. So you get Peacock,

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the World Soccer ticket and my favorite multiview which lets

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you watch up to four games at once on one screen.

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And honestly, that was a gift for me. There's no

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more remote wars in my house, and with four K

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and ultra low lag, it honestly feels like the game's

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happening right in your living room. So it is definitely

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a holiday win for sports fan and for families who

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are trying to manage all the crazy sports going on

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in their house.

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Yeah, and for people that have a multitask mindset. I

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mean this is like easypasy, right.

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It really is, and really for saving money. Another big

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tip I have is to make sure you're looking for

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An Infinity app go ahead, I'm sorry, go ahead the end.

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Yeah, no, So this is one of my favorite things.

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and you can even pause Wi Fi when it's time

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for homework or family dinner. So that is something I

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need to do more of in my house, but I'm

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working on. But it really is great for families and

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really gives you peace of mind while you're busy shopping

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or trap or just making memories with your family.

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Talk about giving you the power. Mom has the power.

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A flip of the us and she's choaking off the

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all come downstairs and that they're But it's good because

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that's a good way to call them to come to

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come and have dinner.

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Right, exactly, we're spending time together, right, that's what it's

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all about.

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Well exactly. I mean, schools have found out. I mean

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it's kind of interesting. They're locking away phones and they're

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getting a lot of positive feedback on that, believe it

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or not, which is interesting because I thought there could

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be a revolution that takes place, but actually the kids

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are adapting and they're finding out that, oh my goodness,

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I can talk to someone. I can talk to somebody,

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you know, as face to face, as opposed to trying

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to do it, you know, on screen time. Right, So

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look at some of the old ways are some of

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the best ways. I'll tell you, lindsay, you did such

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a great job that we went through everything pretty good.

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So let's summarize for everybody and they can double check

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their list again in terms of you know, you know,

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the gift ideas of how we can make it, you know,

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make it more fun and stay connected this holiday season.

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such a great way to save. And also for the

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sports fans, Excinity's entertainment features are great and if you're

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trying to save money, they have the Infinity five year

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to save you time and money all year.

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Well exactly, And you know it's all about shopping smarter

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this season and and and it's it can be done, right.

1755
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It absolutely can be done, and it's needed. You know,

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everyone needs to try and find ways to save and

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make make the holidays doable every year after year.

1758
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So okay, and what what other smart you know, we

1759
01:36:58.000 --> 01:37:01.000
talked about smart tech gifts again. We're just reminding everybody

1760
01:37:01.199 --> 01:37:04.600
what we said earlier. And you cited some smart tech

1761
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gifts that will help save money this year as well.

1762
01:37:06.760 --> 01:37:10.920
Right, Yeah, so smart tech gifts are all the rage.

1763
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So whether you know whether there's watches on the list,

1764
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or devices on the list, or iPads on the list.

1765
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There are all sorts of things that I'm sure are

1766
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have been asked all throughout the year, and now is

1767
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definitely the time to save and get some deals on

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some of the things that anyone in your family are

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on your friend's list.

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Need well, and Lindsay also had something for sports fans,

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and again we'll just remind you very quickly so you

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can double check the notes that you made and make

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sure that you got everything, and then after that she's

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going to tell you where you can go for more information.

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So sports fans, what do you have on your list? Again?

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01:37:50.079 --> 01:37:52.880
Yeah, so definitely check out Expinity's entertainment features. So that's

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where you get the peacock and the World Soccer ticket

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01:37:55.079 --> 01:37:57.600
and multiview where you can watch all the games at once.

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So that's definitely something to check out for the sports fans.

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01:38:00.279 --> 01:38:02.159
And then kind of everything I chat about today, you

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can you can find more info on expinity dot com

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and then you can also go to my website which

1783
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is the Gift Insider dot com and you can get

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gift ideas all throughout the year and find lots of

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unique suggestions.

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She isn't she great? Oh? We love Lindsay Roberts. I

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mean she helps us out here to make sure that

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this is a great and safe, enjoyable holiday season. And

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it's a smarter holiday season because of this time with Lindsay.

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Thank you so much. She's the gifting expert and founder

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of the Gift Insider Lindsay Roberts. Thank you, Lindsay. Take care.

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I have a great day.

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It's wonderful to be here. Thank you so much for

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having me.

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Well, Welcome back to America, Bill, Martinez here. Great to

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you can check it out Bill Martinez Live dot com.

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Michael Pack is joining us. The director and producer of

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in New York City. Michael, Welcome, Shaw, Good to have

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you with us.

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Thank you, it's great to be on with you.

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Hey, congratulations on the Last six hundred meters. Wow, what

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It's been many years in the making, but we're really

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happy that PBS is putting it on the day before

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Veterans Day, to Veterans Day Eve, November tenth to ten pm,

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which is also in the Marine Corps two hundred and

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fiftieth birthday.

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Five. Thank you very much. You know I'm a former marine,

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so this is a touches my heart. Thank you.

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I don't think it's best to say for marine, isn't

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that right, Bill?

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No?

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No, no, former no former Yeah, once a marine, always

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a marine. But you say former marine. You don't say

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ex marine. Oh, I say, yes, that's the difference, but yes.

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It's these are There was an army and special forces participation,

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but these battles in two thousand and four that we

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focus on, Fallujah and Najaff really are manly marine battles

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and they're the biggest battles of America fought since Vietnam.

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So we really feel, especially right before Veterans Day, that

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we should tell these stories. The young men and women

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who put their lives on the line for us have

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the right to have their stories told, and I think

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veterans of that war frequently are neglected. People have mixed

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feelings about the war, but I think whatever your feelings

1906
01:44:22.760 --> 01:44:25.760
about the war, you still have to honor what these

1907
01:44:25.800 --> 01:44:29.159
young men and women did on our behalf defending the country.

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And that's what our film aims to do.

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They answered the call, Michael, That's right, They answered the

1910
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call and put their lives on the line, you know,

1911
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for we the people. How did this idea and this

1912
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concept you know come to you that you said, hey,

1913
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this has merit, Well.

1914
01:44:50.800 --> 01:44:53.079
It began really a long time ago. I mean the

1915
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battles were in two thousand and four, but We conducted

1916
01:44:56.000 --> 01:44:58.279
the interviews in the film in two thousand and six,

1917
01:44:58.840 --> 01:45:02.119
so the people memories were fresh. Those that were young

1918
01:45:02.159 --> 01:45:04.079
in the battle were still young and looked like they

1919
01:45:04.079 --> 01:45:08.680
did in the battle, And the idea really was you know,

1920
01:45:08.680 --> 01:45:10.960
I was already working on a film about the war

1921
01:45:11.000 --> 01:45:13.439
in Iraq and was going to be about high tech

1922
01:45:13.479 --> 01:45:16.439
in the war. But in the course of doing the research,

1923
01:45:16.680 --> 01:45:19.119
I realized that really a lot of these battles were

1924
01:45:19.159 --> 01:45:24.399
not high tech, and it really came down to close combat, counterinsurgency,

1925
01:45:24.520 --> 01:45:28.239
sometimes person to person. One of the marines in the

1926
01:45:28.279 --> 01:45:30.680
film tells the story of a squad member of his

1927
01:45:31.239 --> 01:45:34.039
in the battle in the Joff, beginning of which was

1928
01:45:34.479 --> 01:45:39.279
largely conducted in an underground cemetery, a really spooky place

1929
01:45:39.479 --> 01:45:43.840
below ground, and he found himself trapped with an insurgent

1930
01:45:44.079 --> 01:45:47.560
and they fought each other with their bayonets, with knives

1931
01:45:47.800 --> 01:45:50.000
hand to hand. It could have been a battle of

1932
01:45:50.000 --> 01:45:53.479
two hundred years ago or four hundred years ago. So

1933
01:45:53.720 --> 01:45:57.199
I wanted to celebrate that. I mean, the technology is important,

1934
01:45:57.399 --> 01:46:00.840
and I'm a believer in military technology. But at the

1935
01:46:00.880 --> 01:46:04.319
end of the day, these battles came down to the

1936
01:46:04.359 --> 01:46:07.439
willingness of these young marines and others to put their

1937
01:46:07.439 --> 01:46:11.439
lives on the line in tough hand to hand, brutal

1938
01:46:11.920 --> 01:46:18.560
urban combat, brutal and I think you know whether this

1939
01:46:18.600 --> 01:46:21.319
is a sort of combat going on today still you know,

1940
01:46:21.399 --> 01:46:25.359
in Gaza, in Ukraine, and it'll go on again. I mean,

1941
01:46:25.359 --> 01:46:30.199
we are rightly concerned about massive military conflict with China.

1942
01:46:30.279 --> 01:46:33.199
That's a different order of magnitude. But in the meantime,

1943
01:46:33.359 --> 01:46:36.840
a lot of these canter insurgency movement fights will go

1944
01:46:36.920 --> 01:46:40.439
on as they have for millennia, you know, since Roman times.

1945
01:46:40.800 --> 01:46:46.119
Right, and it does reduce itself to the most basics

1946
01:46:46.199 --> 01:46:49.159
of warfare, as you say, hand to hand, I mean,

1947
01:46:49.239 --> 01:46:51.800
it will come down to that. It's not just you know,

1948
01:46:51.920 --> 01:46:55.199
having B two bombers you know, to clean up everything,

1949
01:46:55.279 --> 01:46:59.000
because it doesn't I mean it is you know, you

1950
01:46:59.039 --> 01:47:00.720
have to use as my father used to say, you

1951
01:47:00.720 --> 01:47:03.039
have to use the right tool for the right job.

1952
01:47:03.680 --> 01:47:06.119
But you got to understand the complexity of the job

1953
01:47:06.359 --> 01:47:10.039
and that it's not always just you know, one element

1954
01:47:10.119 --> 01:47:12.840
to it. There's lots of elements to completing the job,

1955
01:47:12.960 --> 01:47:13.920
especially in warfare.

1956
01:47:14.760 --> 01:47:18.079
Absolutely, I mean the close air support was really important

1957
01:47:18.119 --> 01:47:22.520
in these battles. But if you're fighting underground, underground cemetery,

1958
01:47:22.640 --> 01:47:26.119
what good are the aircraft above you? However high tech

1959
01:47:26.199 --> 01:47:31.640
they are, so that's right, and the Marines are very

1960
01:47:31.720 --> 01:47:34.079
prepared to fight with these kinds of tools as well

1961
01:47:34.119 --> 01:47:37.880
as the high tech tools. So we tell these stories.

1962
01:47:37.880 --> 01:47:41.279
I mean, although you know, we have also a Special

1963
01:47:41.319 --> 01:47:47.520
Forces Air Force radio operator who was in radio contact

1964
01:47:47.520 --> 01:47:51.359
with these guys on the ground providing air support. So

1965
01:47:51.640 --> 01:47:55.359
Basher was her code name, and they all had fantasies

1966
01:47:55.359 --> 01:47:59.560
of what she was like, and she actually was a

1967
01:47:59.560 --> 01:48:03.039
beautiful African American women, I mean, so their fantasies would

1968
01:48:03.039 --> 01:48:04.880
have been realized, but not always.

1969
01:48:04.920 --> 01:48:08.039
So that's the nature. That's the nature of a radio voice,

1970
01:48:08.079 --> 01:48:10.640
by the way, whether it happens to be in comms,

1971
01:48:10.640 --> 01:48:13.720
in military, or even in radio. I was in LA

1972
01:48:13.840 --> 01:48:17.399
radio for many years, and you know, and it was

1973
01:48:17.439 --> 01:48:21.680
always interesting how listeners would perceive you and what they

1974
01:48:21.680 --> 01:48:24.039
thought you looked like, and so that when they saw

1975
01:48:24.079 --> 01:48:27.079
you in person, they go, I envisioned that you were

1976
01:48:27.079 --> 01:48:27.800
a lot taller.

1977
01:48:30.039 --> 01:48:33.680
Well, these Marines, because she was, you know, in the

1978
01:48:33.720 --> 01:48:37.600
aircraft that was providing them, you know, life saving air

1979
01:48:37.640 --> 01:48:40.800
support they had, they all wanted to meet her. I mean,

1980
01:48:40.880 --> 01:48:43.239
which I did not let them do. She was Special Forces.

1981
01:48:43.239 --> 01:48:45.399
It wasn't right. But they all wanted to meet her.

1982
01:48:45.439 --> 01:48:47.640
They would have lined up, they would have stayed all

1983
01:48:47.720 --> 01:48:50.600
night to meet her. But and now they get to

1984
01:48:50.600 --> 01:48:54.760
see her actually years later in the film. But she's

1985
01:48:54.800 --> 01:48:57.239
the rare Air Force person in the film. Mostly it's

1986
01:48:57.279 --> 01:49:03.439
Marines and some army, And yeah, the stories are very important,

1987
01:49:03.439 --> 01:49:06.359
and as I say, you know, it's important to honor

1988
01:49:06.439 --> 01:49:09.119
these veterans by what they did in battle. You know,

1989
01:49:09.119 --> 01:49:13.520
there's so much emphasis on PTSD and other embarrassing incidents

1990
01:49:13.560 --> 01:49:18.000
are more than embarrassing, like Haditha and Abu Grab. But

1991
01:49:18.119 --> 01:49:22.159
we mostly we need to celebrate what they did, risking

1992
01:49:22.199 --> 01:49:25.359
their lives for us, and that is what's been neglected,

1993
01:49:25.840 --> 01:49:28.119
and I hope my film makes the difference. I mean,

1994
01:49:28.159 --> 01:49:31.119
these stories are important. We try to tell the story

1995
01:49:31.159 --> 01:49:35.680
without politics. It's not about decisions in Washington, right or

1996
01:49:35.720 --> 01:49:38.520
wrong should we been in the war, although you do

1997
01:49:38.640 --> 01:49:42.720
see the impact on the ground of changing political wins

1998
01:49:42.720 --> 01:49:45.800
in Washington. You know, the Marines first go into Bellujah,

1999
01:49:45.840 --> 01:49:47.640
then they're pulled out Affllusion, and then they go back

2000
01:49:47.680 --> 01:49:48.439
into Fallujah and.

2001
01:49:48.800 --> 01:49:52.159
Vietnam all over again. That's the way. Vietnam was so crazy.

2002
01:49:52.239 --> 01:49:55.359
You know, you know, you'd go and you'd fight for

2003
01:49:55.399 --> 01:49:57.760
a hill, you'd win the hill, you'd lose you know,

2004
01:49:57.800 --> 01:50:00.960
your comrades, you know, marine next to you, and that,

2005
01:50:01.239 --> 01:50:03.039
and then and then you had to go back and

2006
01:50:03.319 --> 01:50:05.960
recapture the hill all over again. It was absolutely insane.

2007
01:50:06.720 --> 01:50:10.479
It was a lot like that. Yeah, and the second

2008
01:50:10.520 --> 01:50:13.840
battle Flusjah is often compared to Way City, which was

2009
01:50:13.880 --> 01:50:17.239
the last urban battle like that. But but yeah, there

2010
01:50:17.319 --> 01:50:19.319
was a lot of that, and we portray it in

2011
01:50:19.359 --> 01:50:22.600
the film without comment only on its impact on the

2012
01:50:22.640 --> 01:50:24.039
ground as well.

2013
01:50:24.079 --> 01:50:26.199
And I like, if I can interrupt you, Michael, only

2014
01:50:26.239 --> 01:50:30.319
real quickly here because people understand, unlike most documentaries where

2015
01:50:30.520 --> 01:50:34.279
there's a narrator, the story is actually being told by

2016
01:50:34.319 --> 01:50:36.680
the soldiers themselves. That's why I love about what you've

2017
01:50:36.720 --> 01:50:37.159
done here.

2018
01:50:38.199 --> 01:50:40.800
Well, that's right. Who wants to hear my views or

2019
01:50:40.800 --> 01:50:43.560
the narrator's views. We let these young men and women

2020
01:50:43.640 --> 01:50:46.279
tell their story in their own words of what they did,

2021
01:50:46.800 --> 01:50:51.000
and they are extremely articulate. PBS at one time accused

2022
01:50:51.079 --> 01:50:55.640
me of slanting it by picking articulate marines, but I didn't.

2023
01:50:55.680 --> 01:50:58.079
They all happened to be articulate. It's not my fault.

2024
01:50:59.600 --> 01:51:03.000
So yeah, that's right. It's their words, their deeds. The footage.

2025
01:51:03.079 --> 01:51:06.119
We have footage taken by far more heroic people than me,

2026
01:51:06.199 --> 01:51:10.760
who are in combat, combat cameraman as well as commercial photographers,

2027
01:51:11.359 --> 01:51:13.000
and we talked to the Marines that are in the

2028
01:51:13.000 --> 01:51:15.439
footage talking about what they did, so you have a

2029
01:51:15.479 --> 01:51:19.800
feeling of being there, you know, without a Hollywood machine

2030
01:51:19.840 --> 01:51:22.079
on it. You know, the ground truth is what we

2031
01:51:22.119 --> 01:51:25.520
intend to tell and I think it's important to see

2032
01:51:25.520 --> 01:51:26.279
it and feel it.

2033
01:51:27.359 --> 01:51:31.640
You're exactly right, because you know, sometimes the reality of

2034
01:51:31.720 --> 01:51:36.439
war is glossed over and we lose context, we lose

2035
01:51:36.560 --> 01:51:42.199
understanding of it. And I believe that if we really understood,

2036
01:51:42.319 --> 01:51:45.680
you know, like what this documentary is showing us, then

2037
01:51:46.159 --> 01:51:50.079
it would cause us to take maybe a more concerned

2038
01:51:50.119 --> 01:51:51.560
pause before we go to war.

2039
01:51:52.600 --> 01:51:54.960
I think that's right. And you know, we do not

2040
01:51:55.680 --> 01:51:58.640
soft sell the horrors of war. As one of the

2041
01:51:59.279 --> 01:52:02.319
tankers the film said, you know, he can still remember

2042
01:52:02.399 --> 01:52:06.640
the smell of the second Battle of Fallujah, the charred bodies,

2043
01:52:06.680 --> 01:52:09.560
the decaying flesh. You know, we should have a shot

2044
01:52:09.600 --> 01:52:12.239
of a dog and this coming in after the battle.

2045
01:52:12.680 --> 01:52:15.920
You know, feeding on the on the corpses left behind

2046
01:52:16.439 --> 01:52:18.479
with a body part in his mouth. I mean, these

2047
01:52:18.479 --> 01:52:21.920
are horrible things, and we do not we should not

2048
01:52:22.000 --> 01:52:25.199
look away from them. You know, this is what we're

2049
01:52:25.239 --> 01:52:29.680
sending our troops into. I think that there may or

2050
01:52:29.720 --> 01:52:31.800
may not be times worth it, But you were right, Bill.

2051
01:52:32.560 --> 01:52:34.319
It's not that it's never worth it. It's that we

2052
01:52:34.319 --> 01:52:36.720
should think hard before we do it well.

2053
01:52:36.760 --> 01:52:40.039
And I think for the same reason that General Eisenhower

2054
01:52:40.079 --> 01:52:43.640
at the time had the troops go into the concentration

2055
01:52:43.800 --> 01:52:47.439
camps to see what happened there in Germany, so that

2056
01:52:47.560 --> 01:52:51.159
it wasn't about a narrative, It wasn't somebody, uh you know,

2057
01:52:51.279 --> 01:52:57.319
reporting on it. You brought eyewitnesses into into the devastation

2058
01:52:57.439 --> 01:53:01.840
to see, you know, what humanity, what we're capable of doing.

2059
01:53:02.920 --> 01:53:06.279
And there's something like that in Fallujah, you know, you know,

2060
01:53:06.359 --> 01:53:08.760
the first battle of Fallujah, we went in, we pulled out.

2061
01:53:09.199 --> 01:53:11.439
We let it be a safe haven for al Qaeda.

2062
01:53:11.640 --> 01:53:15.600
It was a dumping ground, for storage ground for their

2063
01:53:16.159 --> 01:53:20.439
AMMO and their arms, but it was also the scene

2064
01:53:20.439 --> 01:53:23.880
of atrocities, including beheadings, and you know, we show a

2065
01:53:23.880 --> 01:53:26.439
little of that, and we show a scene where they've

2066
01:53:26.520 --> 01:53:30.039
uncovered one of those chambers where people were indeed tortured

2067
01:53:30.079 --> 01:53:35.000
and killed, you know, innocent civilians. Not that it's good

2068
01:53:35.039 --> 01:53:39.159
to torture and kill military people, but innocent civilians, journalists

2069
01:53:39.199 --> 01:53:42.439
in some cases. So yeah, you can't look away from it.

2070
01:53:42.600 --> 01:53:45.560
General Eisenhower, as in so many other things, were surely

2071
01:53:45.640 --> 01:53:48.680
right about that, and the American people can't look away

2072
01:53:48.680 --> 01:53:50.960
from it. There was evil in the world. Sometimes in

2073
01:53:51.000 --> 01:53:53.960
America we want to believe that everybody is a nice guy,

2074
01:53:54.159 --> 01:53:56.960
and that's a nice thing in the American spirit actually

2075
01:53:57.239 --> 01:53:59.760
that we are optimistic and think well of other people,

2076
01:54:00.319 --> 01:54:03.039
but it can claud our judgment about what goes on

2077
01:54:03.399 --> 01:54:05.000
in other countries around the world.

2078
01:54:05.560 --> 01:54:07.920
Well, again, I think that's an important message, which you

2079
01:54:08.000 --> 01:54:11.920
just stated right there, Michael, is that war unleashes evil,

2080
01:54:12.520 --> 01:54:15.960
it gives place to evil, and this is why we

2081
01:54:16.039 --> 01:54:19.880
have to avoid it at all costs. Michael Pack, as

2082
01:54:19.880 --> 01:54:22.800
we wrap things up here, I'm so grateful for this

2083
01:54:22.880 --> 01:54:26.760
time to talk about this new documentary the last six

2084
01:54:26.840 --> 01:54:31.680
hundred meters. Remind everybody how they can see it and

2085
01:54:32.039 --> 01:54:34.520
where they can go for more information, if you would please.

2086
01:54:35.119 --> 01:54:39.680
It'll be nationally broadcast on PBS November tenth, the ten pm,

2087
01:54:39.840 --> 01:54:42.960
the day before Veterans Day, and it'll be after that

2088
01:54:43.039 --> 01:54:46.039
we'll be on the PBS app and shortly thereafter it'll

2089
01:54:46.039 --> 01:54:49.920
be streaming on Amazon and elsewhere. They can always track

2090
01:54:50.000 --> 01:54:54.119
it on our website Manifold Productions dot com m an

2091
01:54:54.119 --> 01:54:58.119
i Fold Productions dot com. And our more recent productions

2092
01:54:58.159 --> 01:55:00.760
are with a new company Pallavium Picture, and they can

2093
01:55:00.800 --> 01:55:05.600
go to that website Palladium Pictures dot com as well.

2094
01:55:05.720 --> 01:55:09.119
So it's Manifold Productions dot com and Pladium Pictures dot com.

2095
01:55:09.399 --> 01:55:13.800
I mean my X account is Michael pac Underscore, but

2096
01:55:13.880 --> 01:55:16.159
I think there's more information on the websites.

2097
01:55:16.760 --> 01:55:20.600
Well, Michael Pack, thank you so much and congratulations on

2098
01:55:20.920 --> 01:55:24.520
the last six hundred meters. Appreciate you. Thank you so

2099
01:55:24.600 --> 01:55:25.319
much for being with us.

2100
01:55:25.319 --> 01:55:27.840
Take care, Thank you, Bill, good to be on with you.

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