Oct. 17, 2025
The Bill Martinez Show 10 17 25
The Bill Martinez Show 10 17 25
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Are you ready?
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Yeah, Okay, let's do an Ill Martinez Live, a program
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about current events, our culture, our values, our politics, and
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our future.
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And now Bill Martinez.
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Well, good morning America. Bill Martinez Here. Six minutes after
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the top of they are, we got Grover norquiz from ATR.
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Hey.
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Grover, good morning, good morning, good to be with you.
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Hey always good Well. The Schumer shutdown shuffle continues week
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number three.
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In counting it does it doesn't seem to be doing
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them any good. Their polling is not being helped. People
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do understand that Schumer personally and the Democratic Party in
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general decided to shut the government down rather than continue
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it for the next two months while they worked on
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a budget. There's a there's a defense budget to pass.
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The Democrats don't want to do that. There's a budget
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non veterans affairs, they don't want to do that. So
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I don't know what their exit strategy was, but it's
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becoming clearer and clearer that this was a mistake. So
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how do you back up when you've driven into the swamp?
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Right? Well, I think they're, you know, just sweating out
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this No King's Day event that's coming up this weekend. Yeah,
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that seems to be the influence there a bit to
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give them some sort of cover. And meanwhile, like you said,
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anything that they say their talking points are so empty,
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because look at that, this was a plan. It was
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already agreed on. As you know, this is an appropriations plan.
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They agreed on it with the last c R that
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they did. This was supposed to happen. They got up
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and they said, okay, look at we need what seven
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to eight more weeks yet to get this. We're right
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there and we'll get this and we'll be able to
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present it. And the Democrats decided to take that as
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an opportunity to reverse everything that they approved back what
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three months ago, just about it.
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I'm told by congressmen that they thought they were They
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had a defense bill pretty much done, a veterans bill
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that there were three or four significant bills. The Speaker
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was saying that he was getting a call from the
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President saying, let's get everything done by Monday. This is
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like a month or two ago, and everything done by Monday,
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probably a little bit of a push, but the President
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likes to you know, let's let's do it now. But
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if not by Monday, they could have over these month
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or two finished the regular appropriations process that we've been
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doing for hundreds of years, where the two parties sit
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in the committee that does the appropriations for defense, for
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all the various for agriculture, for all the various departments.
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And it's important that you get that done and then
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you take it to the President. He signs it or
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heve he toes it, then you have to rewrite it.
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But they just decided they were going to blow it
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all up.
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Yeah. And the thing, well, look at what they're fighting
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for here, Yes, one point five trillion demands according to
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Mike Johnson, huh.
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Opening bed to start the negotiations. They want that, right,
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they want more?
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Right? Oh yeah, exactly. But I mean even when you
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break this down, Grover, I know, because the general public
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is hearing, you know, one point five trillion. But then
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you've got to start looking on all the ornaments on
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this wish tree that they've presented. Two hundred billion in
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healthcare benefits for illegal aliens, repeal of the fifty billion
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dollar Rural Hospitals Fund, permanent COVID subsidies without reforms. I
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thought we were done with COVID. I mean, it goes.
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It's just so silly. It really makes them look like
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they're unseerious about something as important as keeping our government running.
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This is why they should not be allowed to be
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in leadership and have power, because they're just they're like juveniles.
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Well, the American people have looked at their track record
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and decided since nineteen ninety four, I mean there was
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a change up until nineteen ninety four. From third nineteen
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thirty two to nineteen ninety four, sixty two years, Republicans
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only won Congress twice in sixty two years. Since ninety four,
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when the Republicans said we're never raising your taxes. We
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maybe do other foolish things from time to time, but
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we're not raising your taxes. The Republicans won control of
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Congress eighteen years, Democrats six, and then divided six So
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there was this huge shift when the Republican party said,
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we're not raising taxes. We're going to reform government to
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cost less, which is difficult to do, but that's what
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we're going to be fighting for. The Republicans have won
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Congress three times at both houses, three times as often
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as the Democrats. How did the Democrats run against the
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party that says we won't raise taxes we're going to
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govern better. They can't offer anything that's right.
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Well, and even now, I mean, you know, when you
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go back and we remember that history, it's like Grover
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Norquist and ATR say the Republican Party, I mean, there's
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going to be a big statue with holywater, you know,
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coming out of your left ear, you know, just as honor,
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you know, because you've held and the time that look
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at the time, the Republicans violated that promise. George H. W.
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Bush didn't farewell for them, did it.
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No, But here's the no, one's life is a complete waste.
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Some people serve as bad examples. Yeah, George Herbert Walker
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Bush had an otherwise very successful presidency. He managed the
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collapse of the Soviet Union. Reagan had broken their back,
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but I could still have been messy and bloody, and
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Bush managed that. He kicked Iraq out of Kuwait and
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didn't stick around for thirty years to see what happened.
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He governed well, one problem, raised taxes and that and
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he lost to you know, Clinton, who was from Arkansas
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at the time, I don't think was technically a real
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state or anything, so he wasn't you know, he'd lost
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to a nobody. And the Republicans saw that and they said,
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I get it. Take the pledge, win the primary, as
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Bush did against dol Take the pledge, win the general,
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keep the pledge, get re elected. Exactly ninety four, the
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Republican parties kept that pledge, not raised taxes, stopped any
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tax increase, vetout any Democratic tax increase. The only time
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taxes go up is if the Democrats have the presidency,
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the House, and the Senate together.
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Well, it's like every once in a while, like you said,
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we're all humanoids, and sometimes we think we can defy
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gravity and we learn the hard way, right, so lesson learned,
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stay the course, and you know, and it just seems
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the combination of Trump as the CEO and president of
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this country, what he's been able to do in you know,
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correct selling the cats and their disparate ideas and every
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once in a while, will they want to go off
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the reservation. Trump has a way of going out there,
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and he's not much of a cowboy, but he's found
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a way to less sow them and bring them back in. Right.
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Yeah, so it's it. But okay, if you're sitting in
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the Democrats' seat where they are, what else would they do.
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Their base says scream yell, make.
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Noise, cuse and everything else.
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Yeah, they can't stop it. I mean they can't win.
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They can't win votes in the House, they can't win
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votes in the Senate. They don't have the presidency, they
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don't have a court that's left wing that will do
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what they want. They have a bureaucracy which largely wants
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to govern as the Democrats want to. They were put
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in by Democrats. They are largely Democrats. The irs Union
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ninety five to a percent plus of all the money
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they give in politics goes to Democrats and n P
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to left wing things. So you have a left Democrat
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bureaucracy and that's their one position in DC. They're they're
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one base they can operate from. And now the Republicans
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and Trump are saying, since you won't give us a budget,
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we don't have the money, we're going to start laying
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people off, right, and then the Democrats go, well, you're
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The press goes, you're laying off Democrats. Well, if you
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lay off bureaucrats, you're laying off Demopocrats. The guys who
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was hired for the last fifty years, which they didn't
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talk about on the way in, righting their party affiliation
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on the way out.
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Yeah, interesting how they worked that. But yeah, exactly, And
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you know, and I think that Trump has taking his time,
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and of course we got we've got an activist judge,
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you know, already throwing a penalty flag in there in Cisco,
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right of course, and so you know, to do what
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they can to get in the way. But this is
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an opportune time for us to trim down the government
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and do the dose kind of thing that we thought
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about doing a while ago when Elon Musk was walking
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the hallways.
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Right.
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Anyway, we got to go to quick break. Let's pick
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it up on the other side. More from Grobrin Narquist
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