Oct. 10, 2025

The Bill Martinez Show 10 10 25

The Bill Martinez Show 10 10 25
The Bill Martinez Show 10 10 25
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Are you ready?

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Yeah, Okay, let's do an Ill Martinas Live a program

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about current events, our culture, our values, our politics, and

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our future.

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And now Bill Martinez.

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Hey, good morning, welcome six minutes after Tough the al

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Right now, Grover Norquiz from ATR joins US Now, Hey, Grover,

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good morning.

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Good morning. Things are going well in DC as well

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as they.

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Can well around the world as well. I mean, as

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we're recording this right now, great news. Middle East peace

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like in our lifetime we've never have seen before potentially anyway.

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Yeah, well, you've got all the Arab nations working together.

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Everybody's concerned about Iran. Israel cares about Iran, the Arab

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nations are very concerned about it as well, and there's

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a real opportunity to put aside some of the different

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fights people have, solve them and make sure that Iran

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becomes not a as serious a threat as it was becoming.

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And that also defends Russia and China in that area,

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because they are the tool of Russia and or China.

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Who's ever giving them money and weapons at this point

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in that region?

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Could you imagine a cooperative environment in that region?

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Growver?

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What that will mean not only for each of these nations.

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I mean the way they're all coming together. I mean

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a lot of encouragement during President Trump's first term of

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office with the Abrahamic Accords, with four nations, four Arab nations,

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others getting ready to come alongside. I think Saudi Arabia

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was one of those. But then everything as of October

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the seven, two years ago, got turned upside down. But now,

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as you mentioned, these Arab nations are really citing for

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the you know, the side of peace and prosperity which

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will come with peace, won't it.

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Well, look, the our nations have from quite some time

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ago said you get a Palestinian state, you treat them okay,

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and we got a deal. And that's the challenge that

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you have because that's not Hamas was not willing to

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play that role. And the leadership there is different, will

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be different.

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Well, speaking of the Palestinian state, and I know we're

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kind of getting into things and I want to bring

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it back domestically and talk about you know, the government

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shut down things that are happening here. But I'm just

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you know, always appreciate your insight in these things, especially

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internationally and with what's going on in the current news

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is just in terms of you know, moving moving forward here.

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You know, can we trust the PLO, for example, because

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the PLO has had a very strict commitment to Israel's

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demise as well, and it just seems that the PLO,

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you know, they they're leaning on the PLO to kind

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of step up and to be a peace agent. And

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I don't know if that's in their capacity, but.

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Well, quite some years ago that the Palestinian Authority said

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took out of their statement of purpose ending the Israeli state.

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Yahoo has not taken out of his stated purpose ending

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the Palestinians idea of the state. So if Netanyahu catches

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up to where the Palestinians are, you've got a deal.

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But that's not Hamas. Hamas is different exactly. They were supported,

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unfortunately by by net Yahoo as the counter to the

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Palestinian Authority in the West in the West Bank. But

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that is one that is ready, has been ready for

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some time to work to work out a deal. The

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challenge was the split organized in any ways both by

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our FRIENDT Yahoo, who wanted I mean he's on video

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saying the goal is to split them, then they'll never

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be a Palestinian state. That actually vision probably ended with

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the success of the war against Tamas, So that's that's

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great for peace and for a unified Palestinian state, not

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a divided one where it's actually under the control of Iran,

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which is an odd place for Gaza to be. Remember,

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Gaza is where many of the Palestinians that were driven

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out of Greater Palestine were driven there. That was a

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refugee camp and it built up from there. So they're

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not from Gaza, they're from the rest of Palestine.

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Yeah, exactly. Well, let's talk government shut down things are

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you know, we're right now day nine, looking at ten

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and you know you're starting to see the heat, you know,

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starting to intensify there on the Beltway.

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Well, I thought that we had this sort of clear

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path out and then there was this bumping around, okay

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that the Republicans said, We're going to just continue things

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for two months while we get ready to go to

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regular order. Have different appropriations, committees do different things, okay,

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which is what we used to do up until the

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Republicans started winning control of Health the Senate and the

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Democrats said we don't like this game anymore. We just

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want one big bill where we can use the power

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of the Senate where we can filibuster to say you

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have to negotiate with us, even though we're in the minority,

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and give us many things, so that the Democrats liked that.

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The Republicans are trying to get back to regular order,

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which is what the Democrats had, which existed for some

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time the one hundred years. So that's where we were.

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And then the Democrats said, no, we're going to blow

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this up because we don't want to continue the continuing

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resolution they did for seven months. Remember the Democratic leader

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Tumor said, this is what we Thirteen times or so

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they've extended this very same continuing resolution.

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In near unanimity if I recall.

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Right, Yeah, but because the Democrats feel so frustrated by

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Trump that they just want to do something big and

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maybe stupid, but big and oppositional. That's what they're in

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the middle of. That's why they keep voting down the

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very reasonable idea of let's just keep it flat for

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two months and then we begin regular order. They're demanding

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of trillion and a half dollars in more, spending some

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of us it on healthcare. They like to talk about that,

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but most you know, it's all sorts of left wing

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stuff that they want. They want money spent that makes

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no sense, and they don't like to talk about what

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it is they're demanding because it looks silly. And the

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good news is the American people see this and they

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believe correctly that the Democrats have shut down the government,

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not the Republicans. All previous fights, that media would jump

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out and say, the Republicans just did this. You can't

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do that because there are too many videos of Democratic

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leaders going we're going to shut the thing down. We

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just did this. We're not going to open it up.

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They're bragging about this chaos that they brought. There was

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a fear that a handful of Republicans, let's go negotiate

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and give them something for free before we get any

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before we move forward. Why why would we increase spending

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to make the Democrats happy as part to spend on

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left wing stuff those ideas. Margaret Taylor Green right exactly

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said my two sons shouldn't have to work or anything.

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They get this free stuff, and I like that, so

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I'm going to vote for it. I mean, she literally

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said that was the reason people showed her her video

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of when she ran for Congress and said, the Republicans

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failed to end Obamacare.

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I'm running now.

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They couldn't end Obamacare because they didn't have sixty votes

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in the Senate. But she was right that we did.

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It didn't end, but we needed more senators. Still need

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more senators to end it. We can cut it back.

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But she ran to end this program. And now she's going, well,

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now that my two sons get free stuff, I think

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it's a good idea. She just got hammered by the President,

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by the rest of the Hill and the one or

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two liberal I don't know if they're liberals, but the

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people who fade easily when they get you know, what

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are you going to do?

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I don't know.

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We'll compromise, We'll give up something. They started that ball

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rolling and I'm not alone. And number of people worried

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that there was this effort because the press was pushing it,

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the insurance companies were pushing it. They would love all

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that lovely money. And what happened. It got stopped in

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its tracks. All of these Republican leaders are coming out saying, no,

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not happening. We're not going to waste money. In order

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to get the Democrats to come to the to the

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negotiating give them money for nothing other than a promise

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to talk later. I mean, this is like for the

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years and years where you were talking about Israel and

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Palestine and stuff, when people would talk about stuff and

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nothing was really going to happen. Nobody trusted anything, and

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they were both you know, they were lying about what

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they were going to do. Why would you give anybody

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something for free in the negotiation where there is no trust?

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And it now appears that the Republicans have basically unified

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beyond I mean they did already. I mean they voted

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the bill through.

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I'll tell you what, let's go, Let's go to a

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quick break and we'll pick it up on the other side.

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Bill Martinez here with Robert Northquiz, President of Americans for

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Tax Reform in America's pretty eminent center right expert on taxes.

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Rovers you're saying earlier, you get some Republicans that are

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kind of squishy and panicking over this. I mean, this

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is the thing in any kind of negotiation, especially when

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you are in the position of power and you've got

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the cart. But somehow, you know, and this is where

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Trump has a full time job, is he's constantly raining

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in the cats, right and just saying, hey, don't lose

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sight here. We're in a position to where, you know,

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you know, where the American people want us to be

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so that we can protect their best interest. And then

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along the way, guess what, We're going to do something

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about Obamacare. We're going to do something. And he's already

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done some things. I mean, he had adviser in the

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Oval Office renegotiating drug prices, which he did the original time, right,

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which Biden took credit for because this was done during

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Trump's administration, but it didn't kick in until Biden came in, right,

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And then Biden act like oh that was and the

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Democrats like it was there? Well, come on, I mean,

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how stupid do you think we are? Right?

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Yeah, well wet In fairness to some of the Republicans,

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the press asked the same question twelve times, could you

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imagine a deal where and the guy says, I can

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imagine a deal. Ah News headline Republicans ready to compromise Okay.

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Some of the times when you hear a Republican has

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offered a compromise or discussed a compromise, it's because he

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got asked about a hypothetical. My staff at Americans for

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left wing press can take They say if this, if this,

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if this, if this, then maybe that And then he said, well,

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in that case, you could do that. They just take

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that last part and make it sound like you just

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endure something terminally stupid. So this is something that Republican

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congressmen and senators and political activists have to remind ourselves.

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And I think some of this belief that I was seeing,

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you know that people seem to be talking about it. Also,

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the press says, lots of Republicans are talking about it,

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Lot three, you name them, what are you talking about?

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So so, but some of those guys were real in

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popping up and saying we could do this, we could

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do that. And they may not have meant to be destructive,

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but what they were doing was destructive exactly. Think they

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raned themselves in. President made it clear the House and

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Senate leadership has never budged been very very good. So

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I think we have a much stronger backbone at all

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levels with the Republicans, and we will tell the Democrats

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we will reopen the government when you agree to the

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fact that because we've been making the vote on this

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every day in the Senate.

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Right exactly. Well, and the thing is gover. Like you said,

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this was already set and agreed upon that you were

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going to do the appropriations process, and they needed I mean,

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these were dates that were set and agreed bipartisan lee

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Democrats and Republicans, and they needed more time in order

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to get through the process because as you know, the

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Democrats have kind of drugged their feet a little bit too,

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you know, if the truth be known and so. But

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yet we were in the process, So what did we

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need sixty more days to get through this? And so

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that's why the c are right.

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Yes, And that's what we're working on. And that's what

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we've done in the past. That's what we did for

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the previous six months. The Democrats decided they didn't like

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working through regular process, which is what they did when

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they were in the majority. Right, we didn't blow things

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up then. So it's one of the things we don't

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know is how much it will permanently cost the democratic

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spending interests, how much spending will be cut severed, how

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many contracts will be said, this is a contract for

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left wing stuff. We're now past the date when that

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money could be spent.

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That's it.

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So yeah, speaking of which, because Trump has kind of

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threatened this, and I know there's a lot of Americans

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that are saying, Okay, we weren't able to do this

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with Elon Musk in the first round, but this is

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two point zero. Pull the trigger. If we've got non

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essential individuals that we're paying for. We're thirty seven trillion

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dollars in debt and all the interest payments that we're

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banging on it. Hey, it's time to you know, if

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you can't get cooperation and you've got a door opening here,

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take advantage of that window. Why is Trump holding back?

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I'm not sure.

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I expected to hear a little more of budget cutting.

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I know that they were prepared to do more. Laying

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off some extraneous workers, not bunches and bunches, but some

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and perhaps anybody who hasn't been showing up to work

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on a regular basis, or jobs. Sometimes there are jobs

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that are there but they're not filled. You could end

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those jobs so that they don't hire them later for

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positions that we don't want to fill those that that

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can be an important way to reduce spending.

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Yeah, And I'm even thinking like the TSA. I mean,

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here it is we The TSA came in as a

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result of nine to eleven, and here we are and

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now we're able to walk through and use our shoes.

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Do we need the TSA as a super security force

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at the airports any longer?

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a little bit. I don't there are a lot of

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people there. You know, you never quite know what's necessary.

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But they ought to be looking at it regularly to

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see do we need as many people as we have

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in this particular job. Can we move people around to

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make this less expensive? There are several million government employees.

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Imagine if you know one percent were unnecessary, that's a

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lot of cash save for taxpayers. So we should really

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be taking a look at that.

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And I know that the guys at Office of Management

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and Budget russ VOTE has been doing this. There may

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be some negotiations or thoughts going on about when to

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do different things. But they have a lot of power

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in the hands of the president and his administration to

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make some decisions.

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Well, the Democratic Socialists of the UH in the party

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seem to have I mean, they're always blaming you know,

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the Democrats are blaming Republicans, you know, Republicans because oh,

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you got to check with your you know, with your boss,

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with with President Trump before you make a decision. Uh,

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you know. But it's so funny because like at your

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point one finger and you got three coming back at you.

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And and for them they have to answer to And

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that's clear that Chuck Schumer and Hakim Jeffries are real

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sensitive to the left wing of their party. Right, yeah,

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so what's the difference.

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But our friends, the leaders of the Republicans, the Democrats

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are scared of their base because they could get unelected.

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They could either be challenged in a primary, or they

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could lose their leadership role. They could get unelected by

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a vote of all the Democratic Senators or all the

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Democratic congressmen. So instead of being able to be a

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moderating force, which Schumer tried to do for a while,

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he's now decided instead to lead the bob rather than

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calm it down and make it work properly.

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Right. Another thing is, you know, look at what Trump

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has been able to do. Let's go back and look

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at them add least again for a moment. Do we

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need the United Nations? It's like, what did the United

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Nations do? Have they orchestrated any of these peace agreements?

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And what are the eight wars that we've got gone?

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And Trump has been the pivotal figure, and it's like, Okay,

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why are we paying for the United Nations? What are

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they doing for us?

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I think you prot out correctly that the United Nations

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could be a lot smaller, have a lot fewer people involved.

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They don't have to fly to fancy hotels to have meetings.

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They could work on Zoom and Microsoft teams and where

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they need to talk to each other. But a lot

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of it's country to country, and there is this there

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was this push for years. There was I've been to

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the demonstration not attending. I have seen the demonstrations in

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DC led by Anderson, the liberal Republican congressman who ran

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for president once and then left Congress. He was in

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favor of the United Nations Army, a standing army by

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the United Nations that we would all pay for but

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then it would come and tell us what to do.

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Maybe there was some real fantasy world about the United Nations,

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you know, running more and more things, And there's always

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this effort by the left to take power out of

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the hands of people and put it in the courts.

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Now with the more conservative Supreme Court that like that,

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they didn't want it in the president because the Republicans

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want the presidency too often, so they put it in Congress.

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Now Congress is being run by the Republicans, they don't

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want it there. So now they're looking to stick it

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in the bureaucracy. But now they're talking about telling the

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bureaucracy they're not independent of the president and they they're

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just part of the executive branch. Because there's no bureaucracy

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listed in the constitution anywhere, there's no you know, there's

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no there's no role for the bureaucracy in the constitution,

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just for the president and staff of his who could

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give him advice. But the president gets elected, he gets

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to do things. Congress gets elected, they get to do things.

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The Supreme Court gets appointed, they get to do things.

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There's no room for the bureaucracy to do stuff. So

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now they want to stick it over in the United Nations,

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thinking that's far enough away from the American people will

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never get control of it. And that's probably true, so

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we should never put any power in their hands.

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Yeah, exactly, I'm with you, Grover Norquist, the President for

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Americans for tax grow over. How much more pain? We've

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got some dates coming up on the calendar. How much

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more pain do the Democrats have to endure in order

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to come to the table and reopen reopen our government.

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I don't understand their thinking at this point. Once they

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didn't win the fight in the media about the Republicans

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closed the government down, when people the vast majority, blame

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the Democrats for closing the government down, and they didn't

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convince people that this was about the healthcare but it's

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about a bunch of spending. Once they failed to do that,

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it doesn't make sense to keep it going. Had they

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had three networks and PBS telling us what to think

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and no competitors like they used to decades ago, they could.

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Have won this fight.

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But they didn't have the troops, the shock troops of

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a unified one party press behind them telling everybody what

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to think. So they're going to have to rethink how

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they fight politically since they no longer control a monopoly

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on what people.

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Hear exactly Grovin. Our quest is always appreciate the time,

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and he's the president of ATR America's preeminent center right

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expert on taxis. Thank you, Grover, have a good one,

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Take care, good to be with the air You got it. Always.

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Well, good morning America, Bill Martinez here, Good to have

523
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you with us. It's also great to have de Roy Murdoch,

524
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the Fox News contributor, Manhattan based. Hey, Deroy, how are

525
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we doing?

526
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How are you?

527
00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:13.119
Oh? Just having all kinds of fun. I got I

528
00:30:13.160 --> 00:30:15.519
got to tell you know, it's amazing all this stuff

529
00:30:15.640 --> 00:30:20.039
is happening. That is newsworthy and uh and you wonder

530
00:30:20.519 --> 00:30:23.880
where the media and journalists are, you know, in the

531
00:30:23.920 --> 00:30:27.240
general context, because there's so many big stories. Yes, you know,

532
00:30:27.279 --> 00:30:29.880
we got the government shut down, you know, Jay Jones,

533
00:30:29.920 --> 00:30:35.000
we'll talk about that. But I mean, Dan Bongino and

534
00:30:35.119 --> 00:30:37.039
Cash Bettel have've got to just be having a lot

535
00:30:37.079 --> 00:30:39.559
of fun going in and emptying out the closets there

536
00:30:39.599 --> 00:30:40.519
at the FBI.

537
00:30:40.920 --> 00:30:43.680
Quite literally, you know, literally I.

538
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Mean, where, where, where's the Woodward and Bernstein's on on

539
00:30:48.839 --> 00:30:52.920
on that kind of stuff. I just blows up the

540
00:30:53.039 --> 00:30:55.039
narrative of their party of choice.

541
00:30:55.079 --> 00:30:58.319
I guess, well, this is absolutely right. You know, we

542
00:30:58.680 --> 00:31:01.920
have found, as he's mentioned, the a closet full of secrets.

543
00:31:02.079 --> 00:31:05.640
I mean quite literally. Apparently these guys found a closet

544
00:31:05.720 --> 00:31:08.799
in the FBI or small room, whichever the case is,

545
00:31:08.839 --> 00:31:12.559
where apparently they put a bunch of files, just put

546
00:31:12.599 --> 00:31:14.799
them in may thing burn bags, and then for whatever reason,

547
00:31:14.839 --> 00:31:17.200
didn't burn the burn bags. For those of people don't

548
00:31:17.240 --> 00:31:19.200
know what these are. If you're in major government to

549
00:31:19.279 --> 00:31:21.920
high level government positions, they have bags where we throw

550
00:31:21.920 --> 00:31:24.960
classified and sensitive and confidential documents to pick them up,

551
00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:27.640
and they burn them every night. So anyway, they took these,

552
00:31:27.839 --> 00:31:30.000
found these documents were burned bags weren't burned, and it

553
00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:33.799
turned out that they had all sorts of interesting details

554
00:31:33.799 --> 00:31:36.680
related to I think January sixth. I think also maybe

555
00:31:36.720 --> 00:31:39.440
among these they found documents that came in the White

556
00:31:39.480 --> 00:31:42.200
House was spying on eight Republican members of the US

557
00:31:42.240 --> 00:31:45.839
Senate and a Republican member of the House, getting their

558
00:31:46.160 --> 00:31:48.319
phone records and so on, and these folks are not

559
00:31:49.000 --> 00:31:53.000
suspected of any crimes of engaging the espionage or corruption

560
00:31:53.079 --> 00:31:55.359
or bribery or anything like this. They just decided, hey,

561
00:31:55.440 --> 00:31:58.880
let's go through the phone records of Senator John Kennedy

562
00:31:58.960 --> 00:32:04.559
of Louisiana, Marshall Blackburn of Tennessee, Linda Graham South Carolina,

563
00:32:04.559 --> 00:32:06.359
and a number of others. And as you can imagine,

564
00:32:06.359 --> 00:32:09.359
these centers in this congressmon are not happy at all.

565
00:32:09.799 --> 00:32:13.000
And the released in comment about this that this is

566
00:32:13.000 --> 00:32:14.880
worse than Watergate. I first heard that. I thought, well,

567
00:32:14.960 --> 00:32:18.200
Watergate was pretty severe stuff. But Watergate was basically one

568
00:32:18.559 --> 00:32:21.759
break in followed by a cover up. This was, in essence,

569
00:32:21.799 --> 00:32:24.799
if you will, nine break ins, eight senators and a

570
00:32:25.039 --> 00:32:28.680
US remember the US House, not physical break ins, but

571
00:32:28.720 --> 00:32:31.519
if you will, electronic break ins. And then also, I

572
00:32:31.559 --> 00:32:35.640
believe ninety two or so different conservative organizations and conservative

573
00:32:35.640 --> 00:32:39.559
activists spokesman including Turning for the USA organizations started by

574
00:32:39.599 --> 00:32:41.720
the late great Charlie Kirk. And so this was not

575
00:32:41.759 --> 00:32:43.640
just an attack on one officers, an attack on an

576
00:32:43.759 --> 00:32:48.319
entire movement, on the entire conservative movement. And this is again,

577
00:32:48.359 --> 00:32:50.279
this is where the people say, oh, we believe in democracy,

578
00:32:50.279 --> 00:32:52.240
and Trump's a threat to democracy. Well, could be a

579
00:32:52.279 --> 00:32:55.960
bigger great to democracy then. Yeah, then going after you know,

580
00:32:56.200 --> 00:33:00.599
nine members of the opposition party in Congress and going

581
00:33:00.640 --> 00:33:03.880
after ninety two members of the activist wing of the

582
00:33:04.039 --> 00:33:06.720
of the other party, that's pretty anti democratic. You know.

583
00:33:06.720 --> 00:33:09.319
If they want to present their ideas and their vision

584
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and their agenda and let the American people pick between

585
00:33:11.640 --> 00:33:15.079
Democrats Republicans, great, But you know, being for democracy doesn't

586
00:33:15.160 --> 00:33:17.039
mean you go in to start spy on these people

587
00:33:17.039 --> 00:33:19.559
and send the FBI and as sort of the Democrat

588
00:33:19.599 --> 00:33:21.759
Party's secret police, which is the way they behaved under

589
00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:25.119
Joe Biden. The way they saved under Obama absolutely disgusting.

590
00:33:25.160 --> 00:33:27.759
And this is real. You know, this is Stossy level stuff.

591
00:33:28.039 --> 00:33:30.279
Well it is. And the thing is, it's a pattern.

592
00:33:30.359 --> 00:33:34.000
It's an established pattern that has been developed over the decades.

593
00:33:34.240 --> 00:33:36.880
I mean, let's go back, rewind back to the Tea

594
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Party patriots and what happened there with Lois Learner and

595
00:33:40.440 --> 00:33:44.319
Barack Obama. I mean, you know, I don't want to

596
00:33:44.359 --> 00:33:48.079
hear from them about how they are supposedly the bastions

597
00:33:48.079 --> 00:33:52.240
of democracy. First of all, they misused the term democracy

598
00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:55.400
and it's not what they mean. They just put it

599
00:33:55.440 --> 00:33:59.200
out there because people will Okay, yeah, that's that's you know,

600
00:33:59.319 --> 00:34:02.599
democracy and you know kindial. But no, they've done everything

601
00:34:02.640 --> 00:34:05.359
they can to destroy democracy, and that seems to be

602
00:34:05.640 --> 00:34:09.480
the ultimate plan, especially with the exposure of all these

603
00:34:09.519 --> 00:34:13.400
democratic socialists and Marxists that are in our government. Deroy.

604
00:34:13.679 --> 00:34:16.360
They're not here to build and make it better, They're

605
00:34:16.400 --> 00:34:17.599
here to deconstruct.

606
00:34:18.480 --> 00:34:21.559
Yeah, they're here to tear things down. And you know,

607
00:34:21.840 --> 00:34:25.440
you say, it's a pattern. The same FBI that was

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00:34:25.480 --> 00:34:28.280
pushing for three long years, this whole idea that Donald J.

609
00:34:28.360 --> 00:34:31.199
Trump was a KGP agent was under the control of

610
00:34:31.239 --> 00:34:34.400
Vladimir poost Putin. You know, welcome every morning contact at

611
00:34:34.400 --> 00:34:37.239
the Kremlin desk for marching orders for that day. There

612
00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:40.079
was nothing to that. We had four different investigations clear

613
00:34:40.159 --> 00:34:43.280
him and every other or every other American citizen of

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00:34:43.320 --> 00:34:45.840
including the Russians. On the twenty sixteen election, which was

615
00:34:45.880 --> 00:34:49.360
the whole charge in this thing. You had the FBI,

616
00:34:50.400 --> 00:34:54.119
House Intelligence Committee, Senate Intelligence Committee, and ultimately Robert Muller

617
00:34:54.280 --> 00:34:57.599
and his Special Prosecutor's report all indicated there was no

618
00:34:57.639 --> 00:35:00.320
evidence that there's any collusion between Donald J. Trump any

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00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:04.079
member of his campaign or any other American citizen worked

620
00:35:04.079 --> 00:35:07.239
to work with the Russians to hack the twenty sixteen election. Now,

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00:35:07.239 --> 00:35:08.960
the Russians they've done stuff on their own, but they

622
00:35:09.000 --> 00:35:11.639
didn'tet any help from any American storry with Dollard Jerry Trump.

623
00:35:11.920 --> 00:35:14.480
You know, for three years, for three full years, we

624
00:35:14.599 --> 00:35:17.719
hear the FBI saying this is going on, and the

625
00:35:17.800 --> 00:35:22.280
FBI is spying on Carter Page. They put George Papadopolis

626
00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:26.000
in prison, They put Paul Manaford in prison. They got

627
00:35:26.000 --> 00:35:30.360
prison sentences against Roger Stone and former National security advisor

628
00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:32.199
of Michael Flynn. They did not go to jail because

629
00:35:32.199 --> 00:35:35.679
they ultimately were pardoned by President Trump forty five before

630
00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:38.559
he left office. But this is a full court press

631
00:35:38.599 --> 00:35:42.239
against the American right, weaponization of the FBI, weaponization the

632
00:35:42.239 --> 00:35:46.280
Department of Justice, weaponization of these federal prosecutors. And if

633
00:35:46.280 --> 00:35:48.480
there were some underlying crime and you had members of

634
00:35:48.519 --> 00:35:51.719
the Republican Party setting microfilm to the Moscow then I'd say, yeah, great,

635
00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:53.840
go get those guys to lock them up. There's nothing there.

636
00:35:53.880 --> 00:35:58.239
Nobody did anything wrong. Nobody brought the law these people

637
00:35:58.719 --> 00:36:00.719
where they went after them. They a corupted many of

638
00:36:00.719 --> 00:36:03.079
these people. Rogerstone had to go sell his house, Michael

639
00:36:03.119 --> 00:36:05.119
Flynn had to go Sella's house. A lot of these

640
00:36:05.119 --> 00:36:07.119
people are broke now because they spent all their money

641
00:36:07.159 --> 00:36:10.079
and legal bills again for something they did not do.

642
00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:13.719
These people are perfectly innocent, and these people were put

643
00:36:13.719 --> 00:36:16.679
through the ringer by the Department of Justice a very

644
00:36:16.719 --> 00:36:20.239
totally political and partisan fashion. You still have the Democrats saying, oh,

645
00:36:20.239 --> 00:36:22.119
Donald J. Trump's the threat to democracy. You know, the

646
00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:25.280
twenty twenty six elections we canceled, which is ridiculous. So

647
00:36:25.320 --> 00:36:28.519
the Democrats are just again they've become, unfortunately, a clear

648
00:36:28.920 --> 00:36:31.400
and present danger to the American people and our freedoms

649
00:36:31.639 --> 00:36:34.840
and our prosperity. And this is a shameful organization, not

650
00:36:34.960 --> 00:36:37.480
to an organization which you know, I might disagree with,

651
00:36:37.599 --> 00:36:40.079
disagree with, but we could at least respect when it

652
00:36:40.119 --> 00:36:43.400
was the Party of JFK and you know, maybe even

653
00:36:43.440 --> 00:36:46.400
the party of people like Bill Clinton. But this is

654
00:36:46.760 --> 00:36:49.039
all together, this has turned into like a combination of

655
00:36:49.079 --> 00:36:53.599
the Black Panthers and the East German Stossy all rolled

656
00:36:53.599 --> 00:36:54.159
into one.

657
00:36:54.639 --> 00:36:57.599
Well, this is why the American people must understand. You

658
00:36:57.639 --> 00:37:02.400
cannot put them in power again. I mean they are

659
00:37:02.519 --> 00:37:07.199
damaged souls, deroy and I don't know there's any redemption

660
00:37:07.360 --> 00:37:11.320
in them. I mean, I'm watching the committee hearing the

661
00:37:11.400 --> 00:37:16.000
other day on Pam Bondi and hear Adam Shift and

662
00:37:16.599 --> 00:37:20.159
others talk and the questions and you know, the whole.

663
00:37:20.639 --> 00:37:24.639
I mean, I just have no respect for people like

664
00:37:24.719 --> 00:37:28.920
this who have lied repeatedly. They have no business in

665
00:37:28.920 --> 00:37:35.039
our government Californians. I don't know that that situation. I

666
00:37:35.119 --> 00:37:37.159
don't know what it's going to take, you know, for

667
00:37:37.239 --> 00:37:40.880
California to finally wake up. But they can't do this

668
00:37:40.920 --> 00:37:44.039
to this country anymore. And keep sending people that are

669
00:37:44.039 --> 00:37:47.960
so incompetent, that have no sense of ethics and morality,

670
00:37:48.400 --> 00:37:50.599
and they send it to our government. Then we wonder

671
00:37:50.639 --> 00:37:54.800
why our government is in the in the chaotic position

672
00:37:54.840 --> 00:37:57.920
it's in right now. It's because we're made up. I mean,

673
00:37:57.960 --> 00:38:00.559
it's bad enough. I mean, you know, nobody's perfect. You know,

674
00:38:00.559 --> 00:38:02.880
no humanoid is perfect here. I get that, But when

675
00:38:02.920 --> 00:38:07.039
you are compromised and you lack any kind of integrity

676
00:38:07.039 --> 00:38:10.199
and ethics, you have no business being involved in this government.

677
00:38:11.239 --> 00:38:13.079
Well you're absolute right about that. And the sort of

678
00:38:13.119 --> 00:38:16.199
poster boy for the comments you make would be Senator

679
00:38:16.280 --> 00:38:19.400
Adam Schiff of California. You know, incompetent find we can

680
00:38:19.440 --> 00:38:20.920
take people who don't quite know what they're doing, and

681
00:38:20.920 --> 00:38:24.360
that's unfortunate for them. But when you deliberately and willfully

682
00:38:25.159 --> 00:38:28.679
and consistently and relentlessly and robustely lie to the American

683
00:38:28.719 --> 00:38:31.360
people for three long years and say that you have

684
00:38:31.719 --> 00:38:35.320
abundant proof and overwhelming evidence that Donald J. Trump is

685
00:38:35.320 --> 00:38:38.119
a Russian asset, and you have three full years to

686
00:38:38.159 --> 00:38:40.320
lay out that evidence, you can do so. If you're

687
00:38:40.320 --> 00:38:42.920
a member of the US House, you can stand on

688
00:38:42.920 --> 00:38:44.719
the House floor. You can't be sued for defamation or

689
00:38:44.760 --> 00:38:47.519
suit for anything for anything you say. They can't do

690
00:38:47.559 --> 00:38:49.599
not have to answer anywhere for such comments on the

691
00:38:49.599 --> 00:38:51.199
House floor. He could do his own and ask for

692
00:38:51.880 --> 00:38:53.159
his own time back when he's a member of the

693
00:38:53.199 --> 00:38:55.559
House and spend a whole hour there layout the evidence

694
00:38:55.559 --> 00:38:59.440
show the US people in the entire world the evidence

695
00:38:59.480 --> 00:39:02.880
of Donald J. Trump's involvement with Russia as a Russian asset.

696
00:39:03.079 --> 00:39:04.760
Had three or four years to do that, they never did.

697
00:39:04.800 --> 00:39:06.280
The reason he didn't is he didn't have it, and

698
00:39:06.320 --> 00:39:09.800
he lied nonp about evidence he didn't have, and it

699
00:39:09.840 --> 00:39:12.119
wasn't just him a smirching Trump, which is bad enough,

700
00:39:12.239 --> 00:39:14.400
but based on what Adam Schiff said, you had basically

701
00:39:14.440 --> 00:39:17.000
half the country thinking that presid United States is a

702
00:39:17.039 --> 00:39:18.880
Russian asset, in the other half of the country defending

703
00:39:18.920 --> 00:39:21.440
him against those charges, and the entire country for three

704
00:39:21.559 --> 00:39:24.119
long years at each other's throats over the question of

705
00:39:24.119 --> 00:39:27.199
whether our President United States is also a member of

706
00:39:27.519 --> 00:39:30.199
the of the Russian government or an asset of the

707
00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:32.480
Russian government. This is really not healthy. And it wasn't

708
00:39:32.480 --> 00:39:34.239
like an offhand commedy he made once, or a joke

709
00:39:34.280 --> 00:39:36.079
he made once, or you know something he put his

710
00:39:36.119 --> 00:39:38.119
speech once and didn't repeat. He said this non stop,

711
00:39:38.239 --> 00:39:41.960
over and over and over in interviews, in congressional hearings

712
00:39:42.000 --> 00:39:45.519
and speeches for three long years of three year long

713
00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:48.559
big lie. And what happened. He metastasized like a tumor

714
00:39:48.920 --> 00:39:51.280
from the United States House into the United States Senate

715
00:39:51.519 --> 00:39:52.960
and now he's one of the one hundred people there

716
00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:55.159
in the Senate making decisions on palf of the American public.

717
00:39:55.400 --> 00:39:59.840
It's absolutely shameful and given everything he did and given

718
00:39:59.880 --> 00:40:03.519
his apparently mortgage fraud, which is another aspect of what Peter.

719
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I'll tell you what let's get Let's get into that

720
00:40:05.519 --> 00:40:06.639
for just a minute. Louke, we gotta go to a

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And we're back with you. Bill Martinez here along with

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Roy Murdoch, the Manhette and Basebox News contributor. I guess

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to put a bow around the Adam Schiff deal. Is

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that you know this guy's in churning. Number one, Number

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two you're gonna tell me he didn't know that the

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predicate of all this was one big lie, was all

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a fraud from Hillary Clinton. I mean, because if he

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didn't know, I mean, now he's worse than incompetent. He's

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just blatantly stupid. Well, I mean, I can't I can't go.

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I can't get there with somebody in that position. He's

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he's you know, he's a leader in the investigation. And

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he comes out with, you know, giving us the you know,

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the suggestion that he has all this hidden information. He

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wants to tell us about it, but he can't. You know,

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he's sworn to secrecy. It's all there, but he's you know,

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Donald Trump's gonna end up in a jail cell.

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Mm hm. It reminds me of a scene in the

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Fantastic movie by John Frankenheimer called the mitcheeran candidate and this, Remember,

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the Senate is accusing I guess the State departners somebody

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having Communists in their department. So he says, well, how

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many actual Communists are in the State Department of the Pentagon.

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And I guess for some reason, when he's either writing

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a speech or trying to think of what's whatever. He says.

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He's looking at at a bottle of ketchup behind fifty seven.

821
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He says, well, actually they're fifty seven communists in the

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State Department. This is as invented and baseless as that

823
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is that scene in that movie. And again, you know,

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people can make off comments or maybe information, and then

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you correct yourself. You don't repeat it. Three long years.

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He said this over and over and over. He needed

827
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exactly who's doing I countacted his office at one point

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both by phone by email. Tectist Press Secretary Dry Moroc

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Fox News. I'd love to see the evidence that you

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have that Donald J. Trump is a Russian asset. Would

831
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you please share that with me. I'm very happy to

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write about it, share with my readers and my viewers,

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my listeners. Again, email and phone call, no response. I

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did the same thing, email, phone call, no response the third time.

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I said, all right, this is a third time in

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contacting you. If you don't get back to me with

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this information or at least respond to my email and

838
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my phone call, I have to assume that there is

839
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no evidence that it's being it's a big lie, it's

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being fabricated, and I'm going to report and write and

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announce and broadcast as much. And I gave it twenty

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four to forty eight hours no response, and I then

843
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wrote that I assumed that there is no evidence. Then

844
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it's all made up. It's all a giant lie. And

845
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nobody from Adam Schift's office responded to six efforts on

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my part to get this information, three by phone, three

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by email. So I have to assumed that in fact,

848
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he did lie, he did make it up. There's nothing

849
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to this and again, and for that, he ought to

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be knocked out of office and mortgage fraud. He ought

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to be locked up in jail for that too.

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Exactly. I wonder how much money CNN and MSNBC paid him,

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because they've built their their broadcasts on that big line.

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Think about it.

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Yeah, absolutely right. You know, they certainly earned revenue from

856
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all the all the times they had him on airs

857
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as a guest, and as you say, all the different

858
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special broadcasts and long segments they did on this completely fabricated, invented,

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totally synthetic non story that was not just a week

860
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or two scandal, but three long years, you know, the

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whole Think of all the tension and difficulty and family

862
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arguments and destroyed Thanksgiving dinners and destroyed Christmas parties, with

863
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American people saying, oh, Trump's a KGB agent, No he's not,

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Yes he is, No he is, and all of us

865
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at each other's throats, you know, the country divided on

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this big question. Is the present United States a loyal

867
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American or a trader's pro Russia? And there's nothing to this,

868
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and yet people like Adam Shifting Themocrats ran us through that,

869
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through that maze for three long years over something that

870
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did not happen and did not exist. This is absolutely

871
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shameful about big, big black market at the Democratic Party.

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And the implication goes much further than here in America.

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You know, the impact that it had internationally about our country.

874
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I mean in much the same way. You know, we're

875
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finding out the things that everybody knew about Ukraine, uh,

876
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you know, part of the burn bag stuff. And we

877
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find out that Biden with his Arctic frost, how he

878
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you know, manipulated intelligence when he was vice president, all

879
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the shenanigans that he and his son were doing that

880
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you know, he told the intelligence community will tap that down,

881
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and everybody knew that he at that point he was

882
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compromised and That's why Ukraine didn't want to deal with him.

883
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And I mean, is this all is this all contributory

884
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to the Russian Ukraine War? What Biden set up back

885
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all those years ago.

886
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With O.

887
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Well, you know, you point to a very important aspect

888
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of all this, which is what the international diplomatic and

889
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national security repercussions were, this three year long Russia fraud,

890
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Russia hoax. And that is because Trump was in a

891
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situation where people accused him of being a Russian asset.

892
00:49:16.679 --> 00:49:18.079
He was kind of boxed in and couldn't be in

893
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a situation we could contact Vladimir Putin and say, look,

894
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we obviously disagree on a whole lot of things, but

895
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you know, can we agree on certain things like maybe

896
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fighting militant Islam together, or maybe we could fight China together?

897
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And you have America and Russia hanging up on Shixhipeng

898
00:49:32.320 --> 00:49:35.480
and the Chinese Communist Party. But anything, if he did

899
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anything like that, people would say, oh, see, just like

900
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I said, he is a Russian asset, He is a

901
00:49:38.920 --> 00:49:41.559
KGB agent. He does take his orders from Vladimir Putin.

902
00:49:41.760 --> 00:49:44.800
So by throwing basically a bucket of ice water over

903
00:49:44.880 --> 00:49:49.840
any potential a more constructive US Russian relationship and in

904
00:49:49.880 --> 00:49:53.920
fact chilled the US Russian relationship such that when Biden

905
00:49:54.000 --> 00:49:57.000
came in, Vladimir Putin thought, well, we're not getting along

906
00:49:57.039 --> 00:49:58.599
with the Americans anyway, so why don't we just go

907
00:49:58.559 --> 00:50:01.280
ahead and invade Ukraine? And how many millions of people

908
00:50:01.320 --> 00:50:03.880
have been killed as a consequence. So I think that

909
00:50:04.360 --> 00:50:07.360
the Democrats have tremendous bloodsheed on their hands because they

910
00:50:07.400 --> 00:50:10.960
lie for three years. They chilled the potential US more

911
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productive warm relationship with Russia, and as a consequence, Russia

912
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felt they had the green light to go to Ukraine.

913
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And you see the chaos with what you're dealing even today.

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It's just disgusting, you know, to hear'stally right, Well, how

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they you know, how they're protecting democracy when they're doing

916
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everything they can to undermine an elected president and his

917
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administration and all the things. I mean, it's it's miraculous

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when you think about what Donald Trump was able to

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able to effect on behalf of the American people in

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his first term of office. Deroy amazing. Anyway, I want

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to get, I want to get. We got about five minutes,

922
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and I did want to talk about the article that

923
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you wrote about about how this shutdown is exposing the

924
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Democrats true love illegal aliens, not democracy, and certainly not America.

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That's for sure, no no question about it. Yeah, it's

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fascinating how you think of the Democrats who love big government.

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They love the national government for the arts, they love

928
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all the spending on DEI, they love the spending on

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green new scam, all these bureaucrats overseeing every particular aspect

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of the US economy you can imagine. So you think

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they'd like to keep the government open and let all

932
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the government programs they love so much just continue chugging along.

933
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But there was one thing they like and they love

934
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even better, and that is illegal aliens. And because of that,

935
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they've shut down the US government for the hope, for

936
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the purpose of providing illegal aliens with healthcare services and

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healthcare benefits. And you take a look at the actual

938
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bill that they produced on page fifty six of Patty

939
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Murray's Continuing Resolution, Page fifty six as an area that

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would have triggered something called repeal of Health Subtitle changes,

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which basically go back to the one big Beautiful bill.

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Move from that section, strike out the section that allowed

943
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six reforms introduced by the GOP which rolled back governmental

944
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healthcare to illegal aliens and essentially would restore things such

945
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as Medicare benefits for illegal aliens and foreign citizens five

946
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point one billion dollars there, revived Medicaid assistance to illegals

947
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and foreign citizens that's six point two billion, bonuses for

948
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taxpayer financed emergency care twenty eight point two billion, and

949
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resurrected Obamacare sub seas ninety one point four billion again

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to illegal aliens and foreign citizens. You ended up and

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it comes out one hundred ninety two billion dollars in

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healthcare substies for illegal aliens and foreign citizens in this country.

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And because of that, they've shut down the government basically

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closed and have havelocked the doors of these government agencies

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that the government democrats otherwise love. They just know that

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they normally would fall on their swords from big government.

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Instead they're falling in their swords for the illegal aliens

958
00:52:55.239 --> 00:52:57.880
at the expense of big government, which is really quite astonishing.

959
00:52:57.960 --> 00:52:59.960
So again, this is not just the party of big

960
00:53:00.320 --> 00:53:03.280
the government. This is now the party of illegal aliens.

961
00:53:03.280 --> 00:53:05.960
Subsidized the tune of one dred almoste hundred ninety three

962
00:53:05.960 --> 00:53:09.800
billion dollars just for healthcare benefits over the next ten years.

963
00:53:10.159 --> 00:53:17.480
Isn't this their their new race cards, so to speak, deroy.

964
00:53:16.119 --> 00:53:18.480
Have a sort if not the race card, certainly, it's

965
00:53:18.519 --> 00:53:19.559
it's kind of their new base.

966
00:53:20.440 --> 00:53:22.880
But I mean when I say that, when I say

967
00:53:22.880 --> 00:53:26.480
that the methodology and the administration of the race card,

968
00:53:26.679 --> 00:53:29.239
this is like the same playbook. It's just we're not

969
00:53:29.320 --> 00:53:32.920
talking you know, blacks and whites. We're talking illegal aliens.

970
00:53:33.119 --> 00:53:35.920
I mean, replace it with you know, blacks or you

971
00:53:35.960 --> 00:53:39.760
know whatever. But now it's illegal aliens. So to me,

972
00:53:39.840 --> 00:53:41.800
I see this as the same playbook.

973
00:53:43.280 --> 00:53:46.199
Yeah, well, you know, this was the party of blacks,

974
00:53:46.199 --> 00:53:48.760
the Party of women, et cetera, and now it's a

975
00:53:48.800 --> 00:53:50.440
party of the legal aliens. And I guess they figure

976
00:53:50.480 --> 00:53:52.760
that maybe they can't count on black folks who've seen

977
00:53:52.760 --> 00:53:55.519
black people moving the right. President Trump went about I

978
00:53:55.519 --> 00:53:57.800
think it's about twenty five percent of black males. And

979
00:53:57.840 --> 00:53:59.960
maybe they think that that black folks are going to

980
00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:02.360
continue to abandon them, and I hope they do. But

981
00:54:02.639 --> 00:54:04.639
they may think, well, that's okay, because we'll have these

982
00:54:04.719 --> 00:54:07.960
illegal aliens here, We'll give them preevies, and after a

983
00:54:08.000 --> 00:54:09.840
while they leave there an amnesty, or they'll find some

984
00:54:09.880 --> 00:54:12.119
way of getting citizenship and they'll start voting. Or maybe

985
00:54:12.159 --> 00:54:14.159
you start voting before the citizens. I mean, there's some

986
00:54:14.519 --> 00:54:17.559
places where you can vote in local office even if

987
00:54:17.559 --> 00:54:19.599
you're an illegal alien, if you've been here for like

988
00:54:19.639 --> 00:54:21.920
thirty days in some places, and maybe they figure out

989
00:54:22.000 --> 00:54:25.559
they started to get them started voting on local elections,

990
00:54:25.599 --> 00:54:27.599
and you know, apply pressure, going to move for state

991
00:54:27.639 --> 00:54:30.199
elections and finally say, wow, they're voting in state elections,

992
00:54:30.400 --> 00:54:33.280
let's get them voting in federal elections too. So these

993
00:54:33.320 --> 00:54:35.480
people are very crafty. The Democrats play the long game,

994
00:54:35.840 --> 00:54:37.599
and they probably think over the long run there, even

995
00:54:37.599 --> 00:54:41.400
if they lose black support and the support of Hispanics

996
00:54:41.400 --> 00:54:44.519
born in this country, that illegal aliens will reward them

997
00:54:44.519 --> 00:54:47.159
with enough political power to stay enough folks to remain

998
00:54:47.199 --> 00:54:49.519
in political power. I think that's the calculation they're trying

999
00:54:49.519 --> 00:54:51.000
to make. I don't think it's going to work, but

1000
00:54:51.039 --> 00:54:53.480
I think that's what the Democrats are thinking now, and

1001
00:54:53.519 --> 00:54:56.239
that's why they're no longer than the Party of hard

1002
00:54:56.280 --> 00:54:58.559
working Americans, but now the Party of the legal Aliens.

1003
00:54:58.559 --> 00:54:59.920
Absolutely astonishing to.

1004
00:54:59.840 --> 00:55:03.079
One Yeah, it really is. And what blows me away

1005
00:55:03.119 --> 00:55:05.480
again is the American people, I mean, the people that

1006
00:55:05.559 --> 00:55:10.239
really believe in a democratic republic and our constitution. You know,

1007
00:55:10.719 --> 00:55:13.800
you can no longer be silent. I mean, we have

1008
00:55:13.840 --> 00:55:16.199
a country to save here and we need all hands

1009
00:55:16.199 --> 00:55:18.920
on deck. And you've got to understand that the way

1010
00:55:19.000 --> 00:55:23.800
the Democrats, this current Democratic Party, with all this Marxist

1011
00:55:23.880 --> 00:55:28.440
and deconstructive mindset that they have, they're looking to destroy America.

1012
00:55:28.599 --> 00:55:30.880
That is the end goal for them. I mean, this

1013
00:55:31.559 --> 00:55:34.079
is a war of wars. And guess what, You've got

1014
00:55:34.119 --> 00:55:37.920
half the country that's not interested. They're not partition. We

1015
00:55:37.960 --> 00:55:38.480
can't have that.

1016
00:55:39.599 --> 00:55:42.679
Yeah, well, look, I think the id you say the

1017
00:55:42.719 --> 00:55:46.320
Democrat Party has become essentially a cultural Marxist party, as

1018
00:55:46.360 --> 00:55:49.679
they are, These are in many cases full blow Marxist communists,

1019
00:55:49.960 --> 00:55:53.519
and like you say, they want tension, they want conflict,

1020
00:55:54.039 --> 00:55:57.480
they want basically the Marxist dialectic, you know, cut class struggle,

1021
00:55:57.480 --> 00:56:00.440
then gender struggle, or a racial struggle, or whatever else

1022
00:56:00.480 --> 00:56:03.320
it might be. And I saw what these guys are pushing.

1023
00:56:03.320 --> 00:56:05.920
This is a very very destructive force in this country.

1024
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And the senior the Democrat Party is voted out of office

1025
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and retired to the Smithsonian Institution the.

1026
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Better, and what is it getting in the way of life,

1027
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liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

1028
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Absolutely correct, they're undermining it.

1029
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That's it. He's a Manhattan based Fox News contributor and

1030
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contributing editor at National Review Online. By the way, the

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one and only Droy Murdoch. Thank you, Deroy, appreciate it.

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You bet Bill great, talk to you.

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Getting America back on track.

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Bill Martinez Live.

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Well, we're back with the America. Great to have you

1057
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with us. I'm Bill Martinez. He is Eric Weird and uh,

1058
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I'm glad we got Eric on with us. Eric's background

1059
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with you know, issues of money. I mean it's incredible story,

1060
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one that you know, people may on this, you know,

1061
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on the surface say, now, Eric's not going to do this.

1062
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I mean, may he's gonna be lucky to be flipping Hamburgers.

1063
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But you know this guy, this guy figured it out.

1064
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He's an author of the book Who's Eating Your Pie?

1065
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I love this essential financial advice that will transform your life. Seriously, ladies, gentlemen,

1066
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I mean, Eric is so sought after, he's successful, and

1067
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he was a financial advisor and one of the key

1068
00:58:28.480 --> 00:58:31.400
go to advisors in the country. He's that good. And

1069
00:58:31.480 --> 00:58:34.159
guess what we get to have his brilliance here and

1070
00:58:34.840 --> 00:58:37.599
he gets to share that brilliance with us. So get

1071
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ready to take notes. Eric, welcome the show. Good to

1072
00:58:40.159 --> 00:58:40.760
have you with us.

1073
00:58:41.039 --> 00:58:42.599
I'm so glad to be here, Bing, thank you so

1074
00:58:42.679 --> 00:58:43.119
very much.

1075
00:58:43.599 --> 00:58:48.000
Well, you know, the first thing here, you know, the

1076
00:58:48.000 --> 00:58:52.159
economy definitely is is changing. There's a light at the

1077
00:58:52.199 --> 00:58:55.440
end of the tunnel. But you know, I say that

1078
00:58:55.519 --> 00:58:59.199
we live in a microwave generation that once everything measured

1079
00:58:59.239 --> 00:59:02.599
in seconds. We forget the fact that the economy was

1080
00:59:02.639 --> 00:59:05.960
devastated through four years of bad policy and even eight

1081
00:59:06.039 --> 00:59:09.960
years of bad policy before a four year break with Trump.

1082
00:59:10.559 --> 00:59:15.599
And and what's happened I in my assessment is that

1083
00:59:15.679 --> 00:59:18.079
has given rise, particularly the last four years, given rise

1084
00:59:18.320 --> 00:59:23.280
to the young people who have been devastated by the

1085
00:59:23.320 --> 00:59:26.280
economy that looks like I guess for the first time

1086
00:59:26.360 --> 00:59:28.119
that they're not going to live any better, you know,

1087
00:59:28.199 --> 00:59:32.159
better off than their parents did. The affordably affordability issue

1088
00:59:32.199 --> 00:59:34.840
is key. And so now these kids are looking to

1089
00:59:35.880 --> 00:59:39.679
would be mayor in New York who is promoting socialism

1090
00:59:40.000 --> 00:59:44.960
ideas and thinking that could be a viable alternative. And

1091
00:59:45.000 --> 00:59:50.119
we're saying, look at wait, wait, wait, don't don't don't

1092
00:59:50.159 --> 00:59:52.320
fire it yet. You know, you've got to take a look.

1093
00:59:52.360 --> 00:59:55.159
There are some positive signs that are taking place, but

1094
00:59:55.920 --> 00:59:58.800
you know, maybe you can help them understand. You know

1095
00:59:58.880 --> 01:00:01.280
what you're seeing as the economist.

1096
01:00:01.679 --> 01:00:04.840
Well, I mean we've had a tremendous amount of change.

1097
01:00:04.840 --> 01:00:08.480
I mean the housing inflation has been more than double

1098
01:00:08.559 --> 01:00:12.840
that over the last fifty years of wage inflation, meaning

1099
01:00:13.480 --> 01:00:15.800
your cost of your home has gone up at twice

1100
01:00:15.840 --> 01:00:18.559
the rate of what most people's wages have gone up.

1101
01:00:18.599 --> 01:00:21.960
So it's been a dramatic change. Of food costs have

1102
01:00:22.000 --> 01:00:26.760
gone up substantially, and you're experiencing a widening or of

1103
01:00:26.800 --> 01:00:33.559
two economies, the luxury economy where people who own real estate, stocks, cryptocurrencies,

1104
01:00:33.840 --> 01:00:37.840
they're all inflating with the devaluing of the dollar. People

1105
01:00:38.400 --> 01:00:41.199
who are not in the position to own assets currently

1106
01:00:41.639 --> 01:00:46.280
are being burdened and hurt by that devaluing of the dollar.

1107
01:00:47.079 --> 01:00:49.199
When it goes back to socialism, if you look at

1108
01:00:49.199 --> 01:00:54.079
home ownership rates of socialistic countries, there's no comparison. Which

1109
01:00:54.079 --> 01:00:57.039
you end up seeing are two to three generations of

1110
01:00:57.079 --> 01:01:00.000
families will live in the same house. That's very common

1111
01:01:00.440 --> 01:01:02.719
due to the costs and the things that associated with that.

1112
01:01:03.159 --> 01:01:05.480
The US is one of the few countries where the

1113
01:01:05.519 --> 01:01:08.119
home ownership was a dream and a goal, and it's

1114
01:01:08.119 --> 01:01:09.480
a little more out of reach in to US, but

1115
01:01:09.519 --> 01:01:13.039
it's still within reach of many people. And the interest

1116
01:01:13.119 --> 01:01:16.360
rate cut of that was happening with two more will

1117
01:01:16.480 --> 01:01:19.880
further make that more accessible to a larger population.

1118
01:01:21.039 --> 01:01:24.760
Yeah, I've seen, particularly in the mortgage industry, that it's

1119
01:01:24.800 --> 01:01:27.960
almost like it's constipated, is what I say, Eric, because

1120
01:01:28.000 --> 01:01:30.480
it's just all blocked up right now, and we need

1121
01:01:30.519 --> 01:01:34.440
to get it moving. And the I guess one of

1122
01:01:34.440 --> 01:01:36.760
the things the keys I'm looking to, and it seems

1123
01:01:36.760 --> 01:01:40.039
like you're doing the same thing, is mortgage rates. When

1124
01:01:40.119 --> 01:01:42.559
we can get the Fed to cooperate and understand that

1125
01:01:42.800 --> 01:01:46.400
it's not a partisan deal, it's just it's a human deal.

1126
01:01:46.480 --> 01:01:50.280
It's an American idea deal, and let's we're on the

1127
01:01:50.320 --> 01:01:52.320
same team here. What we're trying to accomplish.

1128
01:01:52.400 --> 01:01:55.519
Right, every half a point only benefits the US economy.

1129
01:01:55.519 --> 01:01:58.639
They save over one hundred billion dollars of interest expense

1130
01:01:59.039 --> 01:02:02.039
on the federal government it's debt. So the biggest benefactor

1131
01:02:02.719 --> 01:02:06.639
of reduced interest rates are the US taxpayer and the

1132
01:02:06.760 --> 01:02:11.039
US government as the largest borrower and the impacts their rates.

1133
01:02:11.039 --> 01:02:13.159
So if you think about that, this is great for

1134
01:02:13.199 --> 01:02:17.480
the economy. Individuals can buy homes, that creates jobs. And

1135
01:02:17.519 --> 01:02:20.199
the tariffs that we've seen, and since some of the

1136
01:02:20.199 --> 01:02:23.480
policy of all the companies announcing they're moving to American

1137
01:02:23.519 --> 01:02:26.760
building factors will create more and more jobs and more

1138
01:02:26.760 --> 01:02:29.159
and more prosperity for America.

1139
01:02:30.039 --> 01:02:36.039
Well, as you mentioned, these outside entities, businesses, individuals they

1140
01:02:36.079 --> 01:02:40.159
see as Trump says that America's hot, it's got some

1141
01:02:41.599 --> 01:02:44.239
you know, you got some problems, you know, whether it's

1142
01:02:44.280 --> 01:02:48.239
Powell and others, I think someone you know that are

1143
01:02:48.239 --> 01:02:51.599
so partisan that they don't want Trump to succeed, so

1144
01:02:51.639 --> 01:02:55.519
they they speak as naysayers. And you know, you're a

1145
01:02:55.519 --> 01:02:58.320
business guy, you understand you won't have anybody on your

1146
01:02:58.360 --> 01:03:00.840
team that's going to be sticking us, sticking your spokes

1147
01:03:00.840 --> 01:03:02.800
as you're trying to get the team all together and

1148
01:03:02.840 --> 01:03:06.039
go rolling down the hill here with some momentum, right.

1149
01:03:06.239 --> 01:03:08.599
Yeah, one hundred percent. And it's some different politics. They

1150
01:03:08.639 --> 01:03:11.239
just they just can't stand for it. Another side to

1151
01:03:11.519 --> 01:03:15.800
get in any credit at all. But we're seeing remarkable

1152
01:03:16.119 --> 01:03:19.719
I mean, if you think about the hundreds of billions,

1153
01:03:19.719 --> 01:03:24.440
even trillions of dollars coming back to America. It's unprecedented. Yes,

1154
01:03:24.559 --> 01:03:27.119
if you look at the negotiations and who's gotten at

1155
01:03:27.119 --> 01:03:30.119
the table to negotiate and make, you know, massive change,

1156
01:03:30.119 --> 01:03:33.880
it's unprecedented. And it's because he's not going the political process.

1157
01:03:33.920 --> 01:03:36.800
He's going direct to the leaders and he's approaching as

1158
01:03:36.800 --> 01:03:40.679
a business person as a politician, not rallying support but needing.

1159
01:03:41.039 --> 01:03:43.800
And I think the biggest difference between he governs and

1160
01:03:43.840 --> 01:03:46.760
how others govern is he governs more like a CEO,

1161
01:03:46.840 --> 01:03:51.639
where he's exactly where he's anticipatory, not reactionary. And that's

1162
01:03:51.639 --> 01:03:54.079
a big difference. It's like driving out of the rearview mirror.

1163
01:03:54.079 --> 01:03:56.480
When you're reactionary, you know how things were. And the

1164
01:03:56.559 --> 01:04:00.480
Fed's the same way. The Fed's tools are reacting dictionary.

1165
01:04:00.599 --> 01:04:03.280
They look for reports to come out that are, you know,

1166
01:04:03.400 --> 01:04:06.400
three months, six months old, and then make decisions based

1167
01:04:06.440 --> 01:04:09.239
on data. What Trump is doing like the CEO is

1168
01:04:09.239 --> 01:04:11.039
say say, I see this is happening, this is coming

1169
01:04:11.079 --> 01:04:13.000
down the road, there's clouds in the sky, it's going

1170
01:04:13.039 --> 01:04:16.400
to rain. Let's anticipated. And that's the biggest difference. And

1171
01:04:16.440 --> 01:04:20.760
I think that's what we're seeing the convergence of anticipatory

1172
01:04:21.079 --> 01:04:22.719
versus reactionary governance.

1173
01:04:23.239 --> 01:04:26.320
Well, and Trump is also one like you know, and

1174
01:04:26.320 --> 01:04:29.840
I've said all along we needed a real CEO. You know,

1175
01:04:29.920 --> 01:04:33.320
I thought for a while there, you know, several decades

1176
01:04:33.360 --> 01:04:35.960
ago when Ross Perot came on the scene. He was

1177
01:04:36.000 --> 01:04:38.679
a true CEO, and I thought, hey, this could this

1178
01:04:38.719 --> 01:04:43.079
could have some potential here. Unfortunately he didn't have enough

1179
01:04:43.119 --> 01:04:46.400
to bring it home. But still, uh, you know, I

1180
01:04:46.400 --> 01:04:48.599
think it got people to think. But then you had

1181
01:04:48.599 --> 01:04:51.920
people came in, especially Barack Obama, who had no clue whatsoever.

1182
01:04:52.239 --> 01:04:57.199
He operated straight out of the you know, college, the

1183
01:04:57.320 --> 01:05:02.679
university think tanks, of the coffee room and the faculty lounge,

1184
01:05:02.960 --> 01:05:05.880
and operated out of that theory, had no practical experience

1185
01:05:06.280 --> 01:05:09.239
and in his own mind Eric, which you know, for

1186
01:05:09.360 --> 01:05:13.119
us as business people, we're always you know, reaching, you know,

1187
01:05:13.199 --> 01:05:16.280
reaching for the stars, right, we're not thinking, oh, well,

1188
01:05:16.320 --> 01:05:18.199
you know the GDP, the best you're going to do

1189
01:05:18.280 --> 01:05:20.639
is one point eight. And he laughed at Trump, He says,

1190
01:05:20.639 --> 01:05:22.760
what are you talking about three percent? You're not gonna

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you know, it's one. You're gonna be lucky to hit

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two percent. There's no way well, Trump wouldn't have anything, right.

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It's common. Yeah, the US is the US can grow

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and you can. I think what people don't understand. You

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can't have growth without an inflationary environment, you know. So

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I think they're confused growth with inflation. And what you'll

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see is that the numbers were impacted because a lot

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of consumers moved from services to hard assets, bought cars,

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bought parts this last time. And at the same time

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the imports were decreased, so that creates a relative growth

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for the US economies who have bought few or foreign goods.

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So US goods were being perchein sense exactly what he

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said would happen if we have if we have terraffs.

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It's interesting in the terrorists. If you look at the

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twenty year tariff history, we've been tariffing China two to

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three percent. They've tariffed US between ten and twenty five percent.

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So it's been we trade the same goods sometimes three

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to ten times a terif rate. He says, Look, you

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teariffy me five, I'll tterify you. Let's just be fair.

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And it's reframed the entire it's just reframe the whole

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colomy very quickly.

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How come the left doesn't understand that Erica. Are they

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just so ideologically fixed that they have no capacity whatsoever

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to see how the game's played? I mean, because to

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me this is this is basic math, right. I mean,

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you don't have to go into calculus or have a

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degree in trigonometry or anything like that.

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I think America, this is what I think where Trump

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finds frustrating, didn't take advantage of their power when they

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could have. Where there's not another country in the world

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we're gonna we're gonna you can't sell semiconductors in our countrymore.

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And that hurts people. Come around, every other government puts

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our size that tried to put other people's interests first.

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And that's fine when you're leading the home, taking care

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of your wife and kids and stuff like that. But

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when you're protecting the government family a country and you're like, wow,

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we're going to tear if let ourselves be tear off

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five times, but another country's is tariff and us it's

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not a good position. I think they try to help

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emerging countries grow and then when they get to be

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similar size or are, they're off their feet. They should

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have rethought the agreements and that they never did.

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We're back with you. Bill Martinez here with Eric where

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he is the author of the book Who's Eating Your Pie?

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one of the most successful and sought after financial advisors

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in the country, and lucky ess he's on with us

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right now to break it down for us well. The

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Bureau of Economic Analysis is ERIC last week released its

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third and final estimate of second quoter GDP. America looking

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pretty good.

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It's looking strong and I'm not surprised by it, but

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it's looking strong, and I think we have more good

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news on the horizon.

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Now, what gives you that optimistic forecast?

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There are so many things with America. I'll give you

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three points that I really like. Point number one is

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jobs are coming back to America. Mean by that is,

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factories are relocating people who sell you know, like BMW

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in South Carolina is announcing more and more investment in

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South Carolina offshore and companies are moving onshore to eliminate

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tariffs and also accustomed to distribution costs. Number Number two,

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where we have a very highly efficient workforce around the world,

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work together, very hard working. Where those hard working workforce,

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they want to realize that. At number three, we're still

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the technology the development center of the world. If you

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look at the all the companies that are involved in

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AI and approxy, ninety percent of them are within a

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forty mile circle of downtown San Francisco. Now that'll change

1352
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over time. We they'll migrate and move out and around,

1353
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but that's huge in which you're seeing happening with AI

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and technology. If you're looking at a ASML, you look

1355
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at Nvidia or AMD or Micron, chip sales are growing substantially.

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Oracle reported record earnings and see their their profits going

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up many many fold over the next five years due

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to AI and just due to all that's happening with

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the demand for data and energy.

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And of course, speaking of which the enemy energy sector

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drives all that doesn't.

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It hundred percent energy is are really something needs to

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be considered taken seriously because the amount of energy required

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to fund the power AI or even like a query

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on chat GPT versus Google as many times over.

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Well Trump said, drill, baby drill, Where are we on that?

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I think it's starting, but I think it's I don't

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think there's any one particular way that that will be

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the resolution. Resolution drill, baby drill is part of it.

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I think a pipeline because we're working in that area.

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We can also look at solar and wind. But the

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the change of consumption patterns for electricity and energy as

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a whole is going to grow exponentially, much faster than

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we see before. Worldwide economic demand for energy was one

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to one point one percent for twenty years. You could

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take it to the bank. It's going to increase substantially

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above that due to what we're seeking to do with

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AI and with the demands that technology is placing upon

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the energy grid.

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Well Eric, during Trump's first administration, the Obama administration did

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a lot to stifle the productivity of our you know,

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our worker, our employees, and I felt that there was

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a lot of pent up energy. And when Trump came in,

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he opened up the gates and set the employees free,

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and and it just came. I mean, it just flew

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out the door because the people were excited about getting

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back to work and being productive. I kind of feel

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like where we're at right now, it's almost the same thing.

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And all these sectors. You've got all this pent up

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force that's just waiting to bust out, and it's it's

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slowly but surely coming out and hatching out of the

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egg a little bit. But being you know, the Americans

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that we are, we wanted like yesterday, but you know,

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I'm like you, I'm seeing the eggshell cracking and this

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pent up energy and all these sectors getting ready to explode.

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Where it's going to be, you know, Katie bar the

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door here right.

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One hundred percent. And I think some of the mistakes

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and previous administrations were they imagine, we have a bus

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they were doing everything with the energy, they're cramping it

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so we're growing, we're attracting the eye, we're attracting technology.

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We have a wonderful educational system in America, and people

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want to move here. It's still a great place to

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build wealth, great place to have freedom, and you have

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all that, but then your infrastructure gets a little behind.

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really aggressively in infrastructure. And the administration recognizes that and

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they're taking steps.

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To do that well.

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we're positioned and the Constitution and what our founders have

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given us, is that, you know, though it's not perfect

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to him and we wish we didn't have know these

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antagonists that are involved, but regardless, I mean, there's enough

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push and momentum from people that want to realize this

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dream and this vision that will make it work. I mean,

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it would work faster if they were in agreement. But

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you know, hey, be that as it may, it's going

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that this tsunami of energy that's right there and I'm

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talking about human energy that is getting ready to explode,

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that there's there's nothing there's gonna there's nothing they can

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01:17:28.159 --> 01:17:30.880
do about it. And uh, and it will it will,

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you know, it will happen. I believe it's inevitable.

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One hundred percent. I couldn't agree with them more. And America,

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01:17:38.079 --> 01:17:40.600
I think it's going to have a super cycle of

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01:17:40.640 --> 01:17:44.600
prosperity and growth that has not been seen since World

1431
01:17:44.640 --> 01:17:46.880
War Two ended. If you look back at what happened

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01:17:46.880 --> 01:17:50.760
with the economic growth and prosperity and after the the

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01:17:50.880 --> 01:17:53.279
end of World War Two, it was remarkable. And I

1434
01:17:53.279 --> 01:17:55.479
think we're going to see something along those lines in

1435
01:17:55.479 --> 01:17:56.119
the near future.

1436
01:17:56.520 --> 01:17:59.079
Well, Trump has been talking about the Golden Age of America.

1437
01:17:59.119 --> 01:18:01.279
I think he needs to keep pounding that drum beat

1438
01:18:01.520 --> 01:18:04.239
because I think we're getting We're getting closer and closer.

1439
01:18:04.640 --> 01:18:07.960
And you know the report about the economy growing faster

1440
01:18:08.079 --> 01:18:10.680
than expected. I mean a lot of things about the

1441
01:18:10.720 --> 01:18:13.479
economy are going to be faster than expected. Because you

1442
01:18:13.600 --> 01:18:16.279
have those people that want to be an anchor, they

1443
01:18:16.319 --> 01:18:19.319
want to drag they it's almost like they're rooting against us.

1444
01:18:19.439 --> 01:18:23.039
Eric. Well, they you know, you know, so so people

1445
01:18:24.560 --> 01:18:27.720
they don't like change usually and if the change happens

1446
01:18:27.760 --> 01:18:30.199
and it's positive, that they kind of want to credit.

1447
01:18:30.600 --> 01:18:33.319
And I can't imagine when you spend all your energy

1448
01:18:33.439 --> 01:18:35.760
saying if Trump's president, the stock Market's going to go

1449
01:18:35.800 --> 01:18:38.560
down by fifty percent. If Trump's president, They're going to

1450
01:18:38.600 --> 01:18:40.920
be riots in the street. If Trump's president. You know,

1451
01:18:41.000 --> 01:18:43.479
you have all these terrible things that are happening, and

1452
01:18:43.560 --> 01:18:45.520
it's actually hasn't turned out that way.

1453
01:18:45.560 --> 01:18:48.079
Not one thing, not one thing that you mentioned, has happened.

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01:18:48.159 --> 01:18:51.520
Right, that's right. The stock market's taking you highs. He

1455
01:18:52.479 --> 01:18:56.199
the other the other party, who views himself as more progressive.

1456
01:18:56.199 --> 01:18:59.359
I mean, Trump came in and he's he's leaning into cryptocurrencies.

1457
01:18:59.399 --> 01:19:02.239
The other party, despite saying their progressive, it was not

1458
01:19:03.000 --> 01:19:05.880
really moving in that direction. He's moving into individual freedoms,

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he's moving into bringing for tax reductions. He's moving into

1460
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helping the senior citizens with the Big Beauty Bill not

1461
01:19:13.000 --> 01:19:16.039
pay taxes on their Social Security until us a high

1462
01:19:16.119 --> 01:19:20.640
much higher level. So he's addressing the obvious need for

1463
01:19:20.720 --> 01:19:25.039
the middle class and people and seniors not just create

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01:19:25.039 --> 01:19:28.600
an opportunity for the upper end. Is alleged. He's the

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01:19:28.640 --> 01:19:31.640
first person to me all these changes could have happened

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01:19:31.640 --> 01:19:32.520
in previous administration.

1467
01:19:32.600 --> 01:19:35.439
They could have well, they on they sat on all

1468
01:19:35.479 --> 01:19:39.680
that whether it was crypto or AI, this technology, the infrastructure.

1469
01:19:39.880 --> 01:19:42.359
They got money for infrastructure, and what did they give us.

1470
01:19:42.479 --> 01:19:46.840
They gave us eight eight charging stations for eight billion

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01:19:46.920 --> 01:19:50.439
dollars and I think only two are working right right.

1472
01:19:50.479 --> 01:19:53.039
It was it was an incriminal mismanagement, you know. But

1473
01:19:53.079 --> 01:19:55.039
at the same time, we're here and I think that

1474
01:19:55.520 --> 01:19:58.520
I think that that if they would recognize the positives.

1475
01:19:58.520 --> 01:20:01.399
They're always going to have ideological on philosophical differences and

1476
01:20:01.439 --> 01:20:05.359
that's to be expected. But the economic items and helping

1477
01:20:05.479 --> 01:20:08.239
you know, middle class and how can we do that

1478
01:20:08.319 --> 01:20:09.960
should be a lot of alignment in those.

1479
01:20:09.920 --> 01:20:13.880
Areas right well, you know, for the you know you

1480
01:20:14.000 --> 01:20:19.840
mentioned earlier that you have people in the upper part

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01:20:19.880 --> 01:20:23.479
of the economy, the higher class part of people. They're

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01:20:23.520 --> 01:20:27.920
doing well. They've got assets, things that they're they're all

1483
01:20:27.960 --> 01:20:31.399
they're operating on all cylinders right now. They're perfectly aligned

1484
01:20:31.399 --> 01:20:34.600
with how the economy is breaking out, and God bless them.

1485
01:20:34.600 --> 01:20:37.560
Good for them. But you know, how about for the

1486
01:20:37.720 --> 01:20:40.920
everyday citizen that is not as healed as they are,

1487
01:20:41.359 --> 01:20:45.319
that have just been living paycheck to paycheck? What what

1488
01:20:45.359 --> 01:20:47.560
do you recommend for them? Eric, so that they can

1489
01:20:47.640 --> 01:20:50.760
more than survive and even thrive and take advantage of

1490
01:20:50.800 --> 01:20:52.039
what's around the corner here.

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01:20:52.479 --> 01:20:56.119
Yeah, I asked people to reimagine and re envision their life,

1492
01:20:56.159 --> 01:20:58.079
and I think what happened. My first chapter of my

1493
01:20:58.119 --> 01:21:01.000
books called Permission to Dream. And it's really different for

1494
01:21:01.039 --> 01:21:03.560
each person, you know. But I met a guy who

1495
01:21:04.199 --> 01:21:06.439
went through bankruptcy and he was a real estate agent

1496
01:21:06.439 --> 01:21:08.439
in twenty ten, and I said, if you couldn't fail,

1497
01:21:08.439 --> 01:21:09.760
what would you do? And he said, I would buy

1498
01:21:09.760 --> 01:21:12.479
this textile mill. I said, why would you buy? He says,

1499
01:21:12.479 --> 01:21:15.760
well the copper. Would you know the brick it's worth

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01:21:15.800 --> 01:21:17.319
more than the mill? Why haven't you it already? I

1501
01:21:17.319 --> 01:21:19.560
didn't have the money. So the long story, Shorty made

1502
01:21:19.560 --> 01:21:21.720
an offer. He ended up using the people who would

1503
01:21:21.720 --> 01:21:25.039
buy the copper and steal as the funding source and

1504
01:21:25.119 --> 01:21:27.680
made more than four excess money in ninety days because

1505
01:21:27.720 --> 01:21:29.399
he just reframed the situation.

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01:21:29.960 --> 01:21:30.119
Right.

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01:21:30.239 --> 01:21:32.399
I don't have the money, but if you get the clarity,

1508
01:21:32.439 --> 01:21:35.800
you can attract money or resources. So everybody's got something

1509
01:21:35.920 --> 01:21:39.920
reframe it. We're all blended by familiarity, and sometimes the

1510
01:21:39.960 --> 01:21:42.399
options aren't just over time or not over time. There

1511
01:21:42.479 --> 01:21:45.560
might be other options you haven't considered that I could

1512
01:21:45.600 --> 01:21:49.039
do to increase my income. Aren't change my consumption patterns.

1513
01:21:49.039 --> 01:21:52.359
But it's just a point of reflection and taking time

1514
01:21:52.399 --> 01:21:55.239
and having simple tools that are time tested to evaluate

1515
01:21:55.399 --> 01:21:57.760
and talk about that in the first three chapters of

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01:21:57.760 --> 01:21:58.119
my book.

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01:21:58.680 --> 01:22:01.439
Well that's great, and then okay, so what else do

1518
01:22:01.479 --> 01:22:03.720
we do? I mean, I love I love that. I

1519
01:22:03.760 --> 01:22:07.359
love that, you know, dreaming again, I mean, that's that's

1520
01:22:07.399 --> 01:22:09.279
where it all begins. And the thing is is we're

1521
01:22:09.319 --> 01:22:11.640
dreaming anyway, right. A lot of times I'll talk to

1522
01:22:11.680 --> 01:22:13.000
people and I say, well, wakes you up at three

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01:22:13.000 --> 01:22:15.159
o'clock in the morning. Boy, They'll give you a chapter

1524
01:22:15.239 --> 01:22:16.079
in verse, won't they?

1525
01:22:16.800 --> 01:22:19.760
They really will. It's as simple. I mean, this is

1526
01:22:19.760 --> 01:22:24.039
a may seem silly, but people may change for two reasons,

1527
01:22:24.039 --> 01:22:28.479
out of desperation or out of inspiration. And I've honestly

1528
01:22:28.479 --> 01:22:31.159
seen a lot more change come out of desperation than inspiration.

1529
01:22:31.840 --> 01:22:35.239
So another example is a woman that founded a company

1530
01:22:35.279 --> 01:22:39.119
in San Francisco. Her her husband left her with four children,

1531
01:22:39.439 --> 01:22:42.560
she had no job skills. She bought furniture at the

1532
01:22:42.640 --> 01:22:44.880
garage sales for fifteen dollars and sold it for four

1533
01:22:44.960 --> 01:22:48.079
hundred the next week because she'd painted white and she

1534
01:22:48.119 --> 01:22:49.840
had said it and her kids had beat it with

1535
01:22:49.840 --> 01:22:52.119
a chain. It became a company called She's a Shabby Chic.

1536
01:22:52.680 --> 01:22:56.520
But there's always something you can do. Another friend of

1537
01:22:56.520 --> 01:22:59.279
mine that I met with detail cars. I said, well,

1538
01:22:59.319 --> 01:23:02.319
why are you detail cars to detail airplanes? He went from

1539
01:23:02.399 --> 01:23:05.000
charging one hundred and fifty dollars to two thousand dollars

1540
01:23:05.279 --> 01:23:07.159
and it doesn't take much longer and he's doing the

1541
01:23:07.159 --> 01:23:10.159
same skill sets. There's always a way to make a change,

1542
01:23:10.399 --> 01:23:13.399
but we have to reimagine, reframe, take a step back,

1543
01:23:13.439 --> 01:23:17.760
and remove their limiting thoughts, which are usually their self created.

1544
01:23:17.960 --> 01:23:21.119
So in your book, who's eating your pie? Sometimes it's

1545
01:23:21.159 --> 01:23:25.479
not somebody else, it's just your own imagination eating by experience.

1546
01:23:25.600 --> 01:23:28.880
Personally speaking, it's mainly me, right, So I look at

1547
01:23:29.079 --> 01:23:31.039
when I look at who's holding me back, it's usually

1548
01:23:31.079 --> 01:23:33.359
looking back at me at the mirror. Because I may

1549
01:23:33.399 --> 01:23:36.199
have fears, I may have inhibitions. I maybe believe lies

1550
01:23:36.239 --> 01:23:38.279
like you'll never mount to anything, or you're just like

1551
01:23:38.319 --> 01:23:42.840
your father or whatever. People here we're conditioned, and I've

1552
01:23:42.840 --> 01:23:45.479
certainly battled my fair share of that. And that's where

1553
01:23:45.479 --> 01:23:48.760
I'm coming from. Experience of somebody who's seen their family

1554
01:23:48.800 --> 01:23:51.079
go through bankruptcy as a kid. I've lived in a

1555
01:23:51.199 --> 01:23:55.039
U haul, I've done sofa surfing, and I've also done well.

1556
01:23:55.119 --> 01:23:57.439
But I've learned lessons through those periods of time, and

1557
01:23:57.479 --> 01:23:58.960
I wanted to share those other people.

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01:24:00.079 --> 01:24:02.399
Your hands on his book. Ladies and gentlemen, who's eating

1559
01:24:02.439 --> 01:24:07.640
your pie? Be inspired, dream you dreams, and reimagine some things,

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01:24:08.319 --> 01:24:11.760
because you know, America's golden Age, I believe is right

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01:24:11.800 --> 01:24:13.960
around the corner. The light is on. And guess what,

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it's not a train coming at us. Right, as they

1563
01:24:18.279 --> 01:24:19.319
would say, Eric.

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Right, white sun, it is not a train. Yeah, yeah,

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this is There's never been a time to be more

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optimistic about the future than right now. And there are

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many people that are reluctant with AI but learning you

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know chet GPT in other ways. But if you can

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take a little time and study it or learn it,

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to an employer by thirty to fifty percent fairly quickly.

1572
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Yeah you mentioned that, Eric Ware, Thank you appreciate the time.

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Take care of my friend.

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Camp ministry leader and author. Hey Jeff, good morning. How

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are you.

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01:28:34.680 --> 01:28:36.319
Good morning, Bill, I'm well, thank you.

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Hey, good to be talking to you. I wanted to

1642
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revisit a topic. I think it was one of the

1643
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first topics you and I talked about, and that is identity.

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This seems to be coming back in the discussion, which

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is so important. I think Charlie Kirk when he was

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in college campuses he addressed this issue as well. Is that,

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you know, we have to realize, you know, what is

1648
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our position in life? What do we you know? How

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God has said has set us apart? He created us

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for a reason, says that while we were in our

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mother's womb, he was putting together everything that we needed

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to accomplish all that he had purposed for us. So

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he is the one who designed and gave us our identity.

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And so what happens we are in this crazy world

1655
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that we're in in today where you've got so many

1656
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people wanting to tell you who you are, and it

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causes us to forget whose we are. Right.

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Yeah, identity is an issue on a lot of different fronts.

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You've brought up the basic issue that many people aren't

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really clear of who they are because of who made them,

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and they're not clear and confident about how to live

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because of that. It makes us insecure, or it makes

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us kind of pretend that we're better than we are,

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or perform in a certain way to meet the standards

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of those around us, or try to cast an image

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of ourselves in social media, for example, because a lot

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of people get their feelings about who they are from

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how many people like them and how they get response

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in that era. And then of course there's the gender

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oriented issues that have gotten a lot of attention these

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days around identity. But fundamentally to all of it is

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are we defined by the things we do, the things

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we say, and the things that we decide about ourselves,

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or are we defined relationally by the one who made us?

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Right?

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It seems to me that, you know, a car can't

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say that it's a bicycle, you know, and a tree

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can't say that it's a waterfall. God made the tree.

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God made the waterfall. You know. Some human beings made

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the automobile, and some other human beings make the bicycles.

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And that original source is where the definition of identity comes.

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And all this goes back to is God God and

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did he make us? And we can debate that if

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someone who doesn't want to believe that, that's fine, But

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the outcomes are difficult when you don't know who you

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are and like you said, whose you are? And God,

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God doesn't own us in a negative way to bring

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out the best. God invented flourishing, God invented thriving. God

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invented joy, God invented life itself. So that's where we

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need to start with the one that created us. Draw

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our identity relationally, not from the sources around us and

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what they say or how we perform or how we behave.

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Well, you know, you bring up some great points here, Jeff,

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talking about the tree or the waterfall. I mean, God

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created it all for a purpose and it's all you know,

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it was all in harmony at one point, and in

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some ways even in spite of the discordance, it still

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is incredible and it's mystical and to me so miraculous

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when you look at this world and it cracks me

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up sometimes when you get some of these mad scientists

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that think that it's all about them somehow they have

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control over the weather, and you know, on and on

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when God is the one who has brought order to

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all this, even in the midst of the chaos, and

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all he's all he's doing is waiting for his creation

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to awaken and realize that He is the source of

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all order. He is the one who created it, like

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you said, for a purpose. It's all designed to do

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no harm, to bless us, not to curse us. The

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curse enters in when we say, God, you know, like Satan,

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I'm better than you. I don't need you. Well, good luck,

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And so here's the option. You can continue to live

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in the chaos. We're at the crossroads right now again.

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I was reading this morning in the Book of Jeremiah,

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in the seventh chapter and the sixteenth verse. It reminds

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us where to cross the crossroads is that you can

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choose it, choose God's way, which is good, or you

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can go your own way. You know, it's all up

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to you because we're free will agents. God has given

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that to us. Otherwise, you know, God could not be loved.

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Right doesn't love him.

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He doesn't twist our arm and make us obey.

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Right.

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Right love is desiring and doing what is best for

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another at a cost to yourself. The cost that God

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paid was setting his creation free to either love and

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submit and follow him and his best ways, or to

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doubt him and question whether he's really good and think

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maybe our way is better than him. And of course

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we get a lot of help in doing that, because

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Satan chose to rebel from God, and then he started deceiving.

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Adam and Eve got deceived, and the rest of us

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have been deceived for many years thinking, you know what,

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maybe sex before marriage is better. It just feels right,

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it just feels good. Maybe there shouldn't be any rules

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at all around sex. Maybe we shouldn't have morality shaped

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by a source outside of us. Maybe we should just

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say I define my own morality. Well, once you do that,

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we're going to start hurting one another. Without he hurt

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one another, we damage relationships, which comes back to hurt us.

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We've seen the breakdown of families. We've seen children not

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getting the love and support and the consistency of their

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mom and dad. We've seen sex outside the boundaries turn

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into sex trafficking abuse. Yeah, obviously infidelity and adultery, pornography

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feeding into that. We called things entertainment, but the entertainment

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pushes us towards behavior that damages not only others but ourselves.

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And I think that it's time to kind of take

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a look and say, maybe God's design wasn't meant to

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be boring or you know, negative. Maybe it was one

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that showed submission to authority. If the authority is good,

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works out well for all, And that's what we need

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to come back to. I want to submit to someone

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smarter than me, kinder than me, more loving than me,

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who has a broader picture of all of humanity and

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history than me, and that's God.

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How about somebody who's perfect, and that's.

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The one to submit to it, I would think, I mean,

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we're afraid of authority because we know that we're imperfect

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and authorities are imperfect. But God is not imperfect. God

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is perfect, God is love.

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Yes, exactly. I'm going to read the specific verse here

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in Jeremiah six sixteen says this is what the Lord says.

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Stand at the crossroads and look. Ask for the ancient paths. Okay,

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where we've been, What ancient paths that have proven to

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be good and right and noble? Ask for the ancient past,

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Ask where the good way and walk in it. Okay,

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Sometimes we're so much in a hurry, we don't even

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stop for a moment and say, God, what is the

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good way?

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The same book that you're quoting says God has put

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before you life and death. Choose life. One leads to

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connection with God and harmony with humans. The other leads

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to selfishness, separation from God, separation from others, and your

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01:36:53.960 --> 01:37:00.479
soul separated from God forever. That that's the definition of death. Right,

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So let's choose the way of the one who is

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love and chose to prove his love by sacrificing his

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son on the cross and then prove that he was

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God by raising It seemed to me that's enough proof

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to say God is not a crimogeon. His plan is

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better than mine. I think submitting does make sense. I

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know it's hard sometimes to defer gratification for the later,

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but I don't want to pay the big price of

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stepping outside of God's boundaries and his goodwill.

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Right exactly, especially when our flesh is perishing. I mean,

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you know, the Bible says seventy if you're lucky, maybe

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eighty years. I mean, it's in a flash, and for

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what we're going to forego eternity for the desires of

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the flesh.

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Yeah, what does it profit a man to gain everything

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in this world but lose his soul? C. S. Lewis

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kind of spoke of the of the Pascal's wager. Yes

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that you if you aim for earth and satisfaction and

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happiness and treasure and wealth and esteem and popularity and pleasure, now, uh,

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it's going to make you selfish and disconnected from God.

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And you're going to lose not only joy and satisfaction. Now,

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even if you get a lot of money, your your

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your relationships will stink, and you'll lose eternal life for

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your soul. But if you aim for heaven, which is

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alignment with God, submitting to Him, storing up treasure and

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heaven through love and kindness, compassion, justice, then you get

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earth thrown in well, because life goes better when you

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follow God's principles. That's what CS Lewis. Aim for heaven

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and have earth thrown in, Aim for earth and you

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get neither.

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You know, what was your ambition? Oh, you know, peace

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in the Middle East, you know, right, and and here

1897
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we are in our lifetime, by the grace of God,

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on the verge of this if if you know, if

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the opposing sides stay calm and keep their eye on

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the ball here and that is uh, I mean, you're

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01:43:51.319 --> 01:43:55.640
you're talking a total remodel of the Middle East in

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that region.

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Yeah, that's exactly right. And it has taken persistence and determination,

1904
01:44:03.920 --> 01:44:07.600
and Trump and his team seem to have really brought

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this thing across the finish ladder. They're trying to anyway.

1906
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Right, exactly well, you know, and I still think that

1907
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it's going to be tough with the release of the hostages.

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You got forty eight hostages, twenty which they're saying right

1909
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now are live. Twenty eight are going to be coming

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in body bags. And I just I have been as

1911
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I've been praying for this. I just I think that

1912
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in the midst of the celebration, I anticipate the cry

1913
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of Rachel, you know, coming out of Israel because this

1914
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is going to be tough.

1915
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Oh, It's going to be tough. And I can't even

1916
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imagine the pain of an experience like that. I mean,

1917
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the only I won't call it a saving grace, because

1918
01:44:56.239 --> 01:44:59.680
that may be too strong. But if there's a consolation,

1919
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it's that you know, there's there's closure there, yeah, both

1920
01:45:04.239 --> 01:45:07.039
for those who are waiting, for the hostages that are

1921
01:45:07.079 --> 01:45:09.600
still alive and for those who have lost somebody.

1922
01:45:10.119 --> 01:45:12.319
Well. And the thing is as you as you mentioned earlier,

1923
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it's so cool. You got all the surrounding neighboring Arab

1924
01:45:16.159 --> 01:45:20.079
nations that have participated in this whole process. They're all

1925
01:45:20.119 --> 01:45:23.079
saying they want peace. Iran's not there, but I mean

1926
01:45:23.119 --> 01:45:26.560
everybody else is. I mean, Iran is basically going to

1927
01:45:26.600 --> 01:45:30.680
be a self appointed pariah that has distanced themselves and

1928
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you know, the chips will fall on them as they will.

1929
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But meanwhile, the rest of the Arab nations are saying, hey,

1930
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look at we ought to try this peace and prosperity thing.

1931
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Why not right?

1932
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That's right, and I hope and I don't want to

1933
01:45:44.920 --> 01:45:49.439
sound Pollyanna, but I don't think it's Pollyanna because it's

1934
01:45:49.760 --> 01:45:55.239
from the Bible. It feels like any prospect of long

1935
01:45:55.319 --> 01:46:00.239
term peace has to depend upon a lot of political factors,

1936
01:46:00.600 --> 01:46:06.640
but forgiveness, right, and somebody's got to go first. I mean,

1937
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I think the remarkable thing that Erica Kirk did was

1938
01:46:11.840 --> 01:46:16.920
to forgive the murderer of her husband, right, and that

1939
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is something you can only do with God's strength. But

1940
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that's the only thing build that I think breaks the

1941
01:46:24.000 --> 01:46:29.239
cycle of vengeance and retribution. And I don't know what

1942
01:46:29.279 --> 01:46:31.479
that looks like on a national level. I mean, I

1943
01:46:31.520 --> 01:46:34.439
think that Erica has given us a model of what

1944
01:46:34.600 --> 01:46:39.119
it can look like at the individual level. But what

1945
01:46:39.640 --> 01:46:44.159
what what a redemptive thing? I mean, I think I

1946
01:46:44.199 --> 01:46:46.760
go back to Joseph. You intended it for evil, but

1947
01:46:46.840 --> 01:46:51.560
God intended it for good, right, And so when we

1948
01:46:51.600 --> 01:46:55.239
are willing to do, not do, when we are willing

1949
01:46:55.279 --> 01:47:00.520
to forgive, it's a remarkable thing. And I often tell

1950
01:47:00.560 --> 01:47:04.000
my kids, I'm like, man, forgiveness is a beautiful ethic

1951
01:47:04.079 --> 01:47:06.520
until you actually have to do it, because all of

1952
01:47:06.560 --> 01:47:10.560
a sudden, it's like, Okay, do I actually believe what

1953
01:47:10.680 --> 01:47:14.960
I say? Yeah, So it's a little bit of a

1954
01:47:15.079 --> 01:47:17.560
spiritual digression, but.

1955
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Well, well, I think it's applicable though, And I'm glad

1956
01:47:20.359 --> 01:47:22.840
you brought it up, because this is the thing. When

1957
01:47:22.880 --> 01:47:26.840
you are reflecting the glory of God, all it takes

1958
01:47:26.920 --> 01:47:29.159
is just a little bit of light to pierce the darkness,

1959
01:47:29.439 --> 01:47:32.640
And as you said, you know, we don't know the stories,

1960
01:47:33.119 --> 01:47:37.079
the impact, although we've heard some. Tim Allen, for example, a.

1961
01:47:37.359 --> 01:47:39.039
Story actually had me in tears.

1962
01:47:39.159 --> 01:47:45.000
It correct me sixty years, sixty yearboring, dragging that anger

1963
01:47:45.159 --> 01:47:45.880
and bitterness.

1964
01:47:46.279 --> 01:47:46.479
Yep.

1965
01:47:47.159 --> 01:47:49.600
I mean I got to imagine his life right now.

1966
01:47:49.680 --> 01:47:52.439
I mean he has got to be you know, floating,

1967
01:47:54.000 --> 01:47:56.880
you know, on the walkway right now, because all that

1968
01:47:56.920 --> 01:47:58.520
burden has been lifted from him.

1969
01:47:58.960 --> 01:48:03.079
You know, it's like the old cliche, you know, bitterness

1970
01:48:03.159 --> 01:48:05.560
is the drink we drink and hope somebody else dies,

1971
01:48:06.159 --> 01:48:12.039
right And even when we have had and I haven't,

1972
01:48:12.199 --> 01:48:14.720
I haven't had a tragedy like this afflict me. So

1973
01:48:14.840 --> 01:48:21.000
I speak from you know, a bit of an academic perspective, right,

1974
01:48:22.279 --> 01:48:31.119
But when we internalize bitterness, there can only be a

1975
01:48:31.119 --> 01:48:36.079
bitter outcome, And when horrible things happen to us, the

1976
01:48:36.119 --> 01:48:40.239
only path forward, I think is to forgiveness. I worked

1977
01:48:40.279 --> 01:48:43.239
for a gentleman for several years whose son was a

1978
01:48:43.239 --> 01:48:46.920
taxi driver and his son was murdered on the job,

1979
01:48:47.359 --> 01:48:51.159
and he and his wife had a decision to make,

1980
01:48:51.199 --> 01:48:54.520
and he was in ministry. You know, are we going

1981
01:48:54.560 --> 01:49:00.439
to be crippled by anger and vengeance and bitterness, or

1982
01:49:00.479 --> 01:49:04.640
are we going to forgive and man because of Jesus

1983
01:49:05.319 --> 01:49:07.600
and because of what Jesus did on the cross. Not

1984
01:49:07.760 --> 01:49:12.319
only are we forgiven, we can offer that to somebody else,

1985
01:49:12.880 --> 01:49:17.479
but in the process we can loosen the grip of

1986
01:49:18.000 --> 01:49:21.239
bitterness and vengeance because it'll just eat at you.

1987
01:49:21.159 --> 01:49:23.840
Right, exactly, Well, And the thing is, like you said,

1988
01:49:23.960 --> 01:49:27.319
though you may not have had a direct experience, there's

1989
01:49:27.319 --> 01:49:30.920
been examples in your life. It's in that you're going

1990
01:49:31.000 --> 01:49:33.239
to have conflicts and things that come up. They just

1991
01:49:33.600 --> 01:49:37.239
nag you to death, and they do it nags you

1992
01:49:37.279 --> 01:49:40.880
to death. And so we can take examples of that

1993
01:49:41.000 --> 01:49:44.640
and be encouraged and understand that God wants us to

1994
01:49:44.680 --> 01:49:47.319
live this way. He wouldn't tell us in his prayer,

1995
01:49:47.359 --> 01:49:50.319
you know, forgive those you know, yeah, he would want

1996
01:49:50.319 --> 01:49:53.560
to be forgiven, you know, he wouldn't have told us

1997
01:49:53.600 --> 01:49:56.640
that if we were just totally incapable of being able

1998
01:49:56.680 --> 01:49:57.039
to do that.

1999
01:49:57.399 --> 01:49:59.880
Well, right, And I think the other thing that forgiveness

2000
01:50:00.159 --> 01:50:06.439
does that absolutely lets you know, all of the gas

2001
01:50:06.560 --> 01:50:10.039
out of the entitlement balloon is I'm no longer defined

2002
01:50:10.079 --> 01:50:15.039
by victimhood, right, and so much of what we see

2003
01:50:16.039 --> 01:50:20.800
on the left is defined by victimhood. Right, it's defined

2004
01:50:20.840 --> 01:50:24.640
by grievance. And I have to level the playing field

2005
01:50:24.680 --> 01:50:26.920
and I have to have power. And you did this

2006
01:50:27.000 --> 01:50:29.920
to me. What a horrible way to live.

2007
01:50:30.399 --> 01:50:32.079
Right, Well, And the the thing is, see, what they

2008
01:50:32.079 --> 01:50:36.600
don't realize by doing that, Adam, is that they compromise

2009
01:50:36.960 --> 01:50:42.760
their freedom principles. They lose every sense of freedom because

2010
01:50:42.760 --> 01:50:45.720
now you're tied up. And you know, I still remember,

2011
01:50:46.119 --> 01:50:48.800
you know, not to get political, too political here, but

2012
01:50:48.920 --> 01:50:51.079
Joe Biden had galled me when he said this, Oh,

2013
01:50:51.239 --> 01:50:53.319
they're going to put you all back in chains. He said.

2014
01:50:53.880 --> 01:50:57.119
I just I screamed at that. I thought, what are

2015
01:50:57.199 --> 01:51:00.880
you doing? Yeah, you are actually by making that statement,

2016
01:51:01.119 --> 01:51:05.279
you're putting them back in chains. You are promoting victimhood.

2017
01:51:05.319 --> 01:51:09.920
You're promoting less than you are compromising the value of

2018
01:51:09.960 --> 01:51:12.000
the cross. How dare you?

2019
01:51:12.680 --> 01:51:18.159
And we don't have to minimize the injustice is that

2020
01:51:18.279 --> 01:51:23.079
anybody has faced. Right, people sometimes have horrible things happen

2021
01:51:23.199 --> 01:51:27.279
to them, no doubt, but we also have a gospel

2022
01:51:28.800 --> 01:51:31.680
that says the horrible things that happened to us don't

2023
01:51:31.720 --> 01:51:34.479
have to define our identity. That's right, that's not who

2024
01:51:34.520 --> 01:51:36.079
we are as people, right.

2025
01:51:36.359 --> 01:51:38.880
And the thing is is that, as Jesus said, pick

2026
01:51:38.960 --> 01:51:42.239
up your cross, well, some some crosses are heavier than others.

2027
01:51:42.399 --> 01:51:45.000
Yeah, no, it's absolutely they are, yes.

2028
01:51:44.920 --> 01:51:48.520
And I feel I mean, I think, okay, I'm dragging

2029
01:51:48.560 --> 01:51:51.760
my cross around. You know. It's almost like who was

2030
01:51:51.840 --> 01:51:56.199
it Helen Keller who was upset because she couldn't buy

2031
01:51:56.199 --> 01:51:58.279
a new pair of shoes? I think, as the story goes,

2032
01:51:58.720 --> 01:52:03.880
until she saw somebody and have feet right, right, So

2033
01:52:03.920 --> 01:52:08.439
it's that kind of situation. So anyway, let's transition. We

2034
01:52:08.439 --> 01:52:10.439
got about two and a half hours left here. Let's

2035
01:52:10.439 --> 01:52:12.319
talk about some movies. Huh yeah.

2036
01:52:12.640 --> 01:52:16.760
Let's start with Soul on Fire. This is a Christian movie,

2037
01:52:16.920 --> 01:52:20.439
lightly Christian. There's not a ton of spiritual content Here's

2038
01:52:20.479 --> 01:52:23.880
directed by Sean McNamara and he did Soul Surfer, so

2039
01:52:24.960 --> 01:52:27.199
he seems to have a penchant for telling these kind

2040
01:52:27.279 --> 01:52:32.039
of true inspiring stories. And this is the story of

2041
01:52:32.399 --> 01:52:36.960
a nine year old boy named John O'Leary who became

2042
01:52:37.079 --> 01:52:40.479
fascinated with playing with fire and blew up a five

2043
01:52:40.560 --> 01:52:44.199
gallon gas tank and was burned over almost every part

2044
01:52:44.239 --> 01:52:50.159
of his body and very very nearly died and it's

2045
01:52:50.199 --> 01:52:53.960
the story of with the help of his family and friends,

2046
01:52:54.760 --> 01:52:59.039
of him living a meaningful life. And this is a

2047
01:52:59.039 --> 01:53:02.159
pretty inspiring movie Bill And we actually had a chance

2048
01:53:02.199 --> 01:53:06.239
to interview him relately. Yeah, so if you look at

2049
01:53:06.319 --> 01:53:09.159
our review right at the end of the first section,

2050
01:53:09.319 --> 01:53:12.720
you can find Paul Ace's review with the real life

2051
01:53:12.760 --> 01:53:14.880
guy that this story is based on.

2052
01:53:15.640 --> 01:53:18.319
Yeah, it's amazing all that he went through, his family

2053
01:53:18.359 --> 01:53:21.079
and everything and now, Yeah, you know the things that

2054
01:53:21.520 --> 01:53:24.399
evil will mean for good? Yeah, how God uses that

2055
01:53:24.479 --> 01:53:25.800
evil and turns it around.

2056
01:53:26.479 --> 01:53:30.319
He turns it around, absolutely, And I think that we

2057
01:53:30.399 --> 01:53:33.159
need those kind of stories, right, And sometimes when we

2058
01:53:33.199 --> 01:53:37.039
see somebody else's suffering, that's the other thing. All of

2059
01:53:37.039 --> 01:53:39.720
our suffering is our own, right, We don't need to

2060
01:53:39.720 --> 01:53:43.800
minimize it. But sometimes when I see somebody really walking

2061
01:53:43.880 --> 01:53:47.800
through something tragic and life altering, it puts the things

2062
01:53:47.840 --> 01:53:49.640
that I tend to whine about in perspective.

2063
01:53:49.680 --> 01:53:54.520
Pretty exactly. Minute left, give us another movie review.

2064
01:53:54.800 --> 01:53:57.479
Yeah, we got Tron Aris. This is the third Tron movie.

2065
01:53:57.520 --> 01:53:59.640
If you're like Tron from back in the day, Yeah,

2066
01:53:59.640 --> 01:54:02.039
that one. First one come out in eighty two. The

2067
01:54:02.159 --> 01:54:05.880
second one came out. I believe in twenty twelve. This

2068
01:54:06.079 --> 01:54:12.279
is about an interaction between humans and creatures beings AI

2069
01:54:12.399 --> 01:54:15.119
beings in the digital realm. This time around, those AI

2070
01:54:15.199 --> 01:54:17.680
beings come to life in the real world and fight

2071
01:54:17.720 --> 01:54:20.399
it out, and there's lots of explosions and bright colors.

2072
01:54:20.479 --> 01:54:23.319
And if you know about Tron, you'll probably like this movie.

2073
01:54:23.399 --> 01:54:25.600
If you don't, it'll be like a rock dropped in

2074
01:54:25.680 --> 01:54:28.439
upon it'll be gone in a week. Some violence, a

2075
01:54:28.439 --> 01:54:30.720
little bit of profanity, but as action movies go, there's

2076
01:54:30.760 --> 01:54:32.640
not too much content risk to wrestle with.

2077
01:54:33.079 --> 01:54:34.720
Well you think about it, what are we talking about

2078
01:54:34.720 --> 01:54:37.399
a forty forty five years span here? Yeah, when Ron

2079
01:54:37.479 --> 01:54:40.119
first came out and now the new rendition of it

2080
01:54:40.159 --> 01:54:41.479
all and Jenner.

2081
01:54:41.319 --> 01:54:44.520
Made his back, so you know he's still kidding.

2082
01:54:44.760 --> 01:54:46.840
He lives. He lives, that's for sure.

2083
01:54:47.159 --> 01:54:50.880
Well we got due abides, right, Yeah, you got it.

2084
01:54:51.119 --> 01:54:53.640
Adam Holtz from plugged in dot com, Thank you, Adam,

2085
01:54:53.680 --> 01:54:54.960
take care of God, bless.

2086
01:54:54.640 --> 01:54:56.159
You, bet, Thanks Bill, thank you.

2087
01:54:57.439 --> 01:55:00.760
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