Oct. 9, 2025

The Bill Martinez Show 10 09 25

The Bill Martinez Show 10 09 25
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The Bill Martinez Show 10 09 25
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Are you ready?

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Yeah, Okay, let's do it.

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Ill Martinez Live a program about current events, our culture,

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our values, our politics, and our future.

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And now Bill Martinez, Well.

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Good morning America. Six minutes after the top, they are

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Bill Martinez here with Landmark Legals Mike O'Neill. Hey, Mike,

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good morning.

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Good to be with you.

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Bill.

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How are you today? Hey?

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Doing fine? I'll tell you the activist judges and all

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the craziness continues in light of especially because of the shutdown,

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and Republicans are taking advantage. They you know, got a

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bunch a trench full of you know, people have been

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stuck in the system. Get them approved and get them

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to work, you know, to help round out most of

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you know, Donald Trump's picks. But you know, the sentiment

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is still there. I mean, the prevailing attitude of everything's

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anti Trump, anti anti American, anti government. I mean, it's

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just crazy, I think.

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So, Yeah, what really struck me this week is we

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know that this environment that we're talking about, we're talking

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about we've been talking about political.

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Violence from the last yes, exactly.

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The assassination attempt on Donald Trump. We've talked about what

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happened with Charlie Kirk, with extensively the threats. There was

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actually and this is a news article that's gotten very

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little national attention, but it's important to talk about and

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I hadn't even mentioned it to you before we got on,

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is that there was a bomb plot that was an

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individual had about two hundred explosives ready to bomb the

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Red Mass, which is the mass that the Supreme Court

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justices and that the Supreme Court bar holds on the

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eve of the the beginning of the Supreme Court term.

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Now we know the Supreme Court term starts every the

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first Monday in October, and they hold a mass called

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the Red Mass. Well, there was an individual who was arrested.

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The FBI scuttled this attempt to bomb the church where

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the Red Mass was being held. So this we're clearly

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in an environment now where political violence is becoming all

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too frequent, and it's it's certainly, it's it's absolutely concerning.

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And in this environment, what did we see Earlier this week?

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We saw a judge in Maryland, a district court Federal

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disrect court judge in Maryland sentence an individual who attempted

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to assassinate Justice Kavanaugh to only eight years and one

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month in prison. Now, let me, let me give a

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little background on this. This this was an individual in

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the wake of the leak of the Dobbs decision. If

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you remember, Dobbs was the decision that overturned a Roe

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versus Wade and planned Parenthoad versus Casey. If you remember

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a few years ago that that decision leaked before it

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was officially released.

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And of course we still.

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And we still didn't find out who leaked it, right.

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Yeah, there you go. That's a big mystery, right, ind.

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It's probably probably the same person that left that white

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powder there at the White House. Maybe, I don't know.

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I mean, we all have our there's always talks about it,

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but you know, everybody has their own pet theories on

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who leaked that.

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But I'll leave that for another day. But again, this

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leak triggered, of course this immense protests and incredible brew haha.

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For lack of a better term. Now, look, let's be

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very clear. If you want to protesting Supreme Court decision,

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Supreme Court of cases, that's that's dere is your and

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that's great.

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Where do you do that?

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You do that on the steps of the Supreme Court, Right,

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you protest the Supreme Court and you make your voice heard.

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You exercise your First Amendment rights.

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What you don't do is go to the justices' homes

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or are any politicians homes for that matter. I mean

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short of the White House obviously, but you know you

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never go to a politician's home.

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You don't.

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You don't go to a Supreme Court justice's home and

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stand outside and scream and yell. And of course one

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of this this lunatic decided he was going to take

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it a step further and was going to actually effectuate

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a plan to assassinate Justice Kavanaugh and his family and

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three other Supreme Court justices to try to do this,

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and he was apprehended, tried, prosecuted, convicted of attempted murder,

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attempt and of course aggravating circumstances in this is he's

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trying to assassinate a sitting Supreme Court justice in this

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environment where we're talking about political violence, we're talking about

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the radical left Marxists using violence.

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To effectuate their agenda. What does this judge do you think? Okay,

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what should I do?

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I need to send a message to the world and

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the country that this sort of behavior is not tolerated.

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Right now, We're not going to countenance anybody who's going

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to threaten to assassinate, or attempt to assassinate or attempt

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to murder high political high officers in our country, and

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of course Supreme Court justices are included in that, and

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their children and into this world, this justice. What does

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this justice, this judge do. The sentencing guidelines say thirty years. Okay,

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So judges look to the federal sentencing guidelines and take

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all these factors in consideration. Thirty years, okay, sounds about right.

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Maybe on my am a little low right if I

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had my brothers, this individual be in jail for the

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in prison for the rest of their life, But okay,

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thirty years. I think most most, if not everyone, take

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a random sample, ninety nine percent of the people would

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say that sounds about right. Try to assassinate a Spreme

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Court justice, get ninety get thirty years in prison.

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What does this judge do eight years and one month,

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eight years in one month? And what was one of

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the mitigating factors that seemed.

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Now again I can't I can't definitively say that this

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was despositive, but this is something the judge talked about

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extensively in her speech that she gave justifying this, this

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this sentencing, the fact that this individual is transgender. I

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keep saying, the individual, this man who now is transitioning

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to a woman subsequent to this conviction. And one of

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the concerns I think was that this individual couldn't necessarily

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get the treatment or was going to be putting a

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male prison.

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Well, the judge went on and on about the transgender nature.

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One of the things that came out of this entire,

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entire incident, these incidents, is that this individual was able

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to come out to his family expressing.

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Sympathy for the attempt to assess the perpetrator of this

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horrendous crime rather than this Kavanaugh and Kavanaugh family. So

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eight years in one month if you try to assassinate

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a Supreme Court justice, you get eight years in one

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month if you happen to be randomly associated with anybody

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in Jay six on away for.

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Well, I was going to say, I mean, you know,

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what was it the oathkeepers, I think, what twenty years

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or something? Right by comparison, I mean, how and they didn't,

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you know, they didn't threaten to kill anybody that I'm

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aware of, much less a Supreme Court justice. And then

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so I guess so the get out of jail card

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now is all these felons have got to uh become

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trans and now there's going to be a separate, uh

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you know, a separate sentencing category for people who are

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are trands now right.

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Right is transgenderism?

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Okay, So when you when you decide how you're going

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to go, when judges determine how they're going to sentence

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the penalties for committing the crime, and you try to

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write at a just sentence, you weigh mitigating and aggravating factors, right,

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the nature of the crime, et cetera, et cetera, intent,

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all of that stuff, and you weigh them against each

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other and you utilize that for a formula to determine

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what's a recommended sentencing. It's it's a whole it's a

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whole system. And so again the guideline and saying there

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you know, objectively thirty years and you take that and

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you readase it. Well, think about this case. It's the

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intersection of the left right. We have abortion of course,

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because this is the Dobbs decision.

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So this is reverse reverse row versus Wigh and in

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plan par.

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University casey, so you have caused does your number one

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abortion causes your number two transagenda. I guess this means

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perfect mix, means minimal penalties for perpetual perpetrating a horrendous

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crime on a major American official, federal official.

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So in this.

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Environment where all we're seeing is political violence from the left,

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so it just is absolutely mind blowing, Bill, how this

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sort of thing can be counted. It's the Department of Justice,

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of course, is appealing this to the four Circuit Quarter

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of Appeals. You can appeal a sentencing order and say

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this is unjust, and we're going to take it to

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the four Circuit Quarter of Appeals and see what they

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have to say rightly, So of course, it just it's

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it's beyond the pyal. But of course it's something now

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now it's just becoming all to common. We can go back,

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we can go to what's going on in Oregon, we

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can go on what's going to happening in Chicago, we

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can talk about what's happening in Massachusetts with some of

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their judges. It's just it's absolutely incredible the environment we're

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living in. And I haven't even talked about what the

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Attorney general candidate for Virginia is doing with his text messages.

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Oh my gosh. Yeah, that's a whole nother deal. But

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let's stay on this for just a minute here. So

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you know, so, I guess what the judge is telling

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us is that somehow, if you're trans, that when you

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kill somebody in their family, I guess it's not as

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bad as if you were just you were okay, if

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you were just heterosexual.

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I mean, I have to it seems again, it seems

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to me from the from the record, the speech that

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she was given, that the judge was given in her

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sentence in hearing, that that was certainly a major factor

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in this, because she repeatedly discussed it exactly.

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Yeah, what about what.

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Conclusion are we left to be drawn with? But for

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the fact but this individual somehow receives some sort of

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more lenient sentence because they were trans.

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Yeah, because they had some some pending medical condition to

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be addressed, and it wouldn't be addressed necessarily if they

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Welcome back Bill Martinez here with Mike O'Neil from Landmark Legal. Uh.

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You know you mentioned previously about this islands, and of

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course one of the things that's going political violence that

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the mantra is it's more on the right than the left.

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I can't square that up. You know, it's like everybody's

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pulling up their own convenient data and breakdown show.

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Me that the first question.

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I'd say, they go back to that, they run home

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to Mama and pretend Jay six was was the worst

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thing that ever happened in the United States. You know, remember,

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if you remember, they were comparing J six to the

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Civil War back when we were talking about the Trump

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ballot appearance on certain states, they were equating J six

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to the Civil War. So they can take Jason that's

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the only thing they hang their hat on. Meanwhile, every

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day more evidence comes out about J six. We had

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hundreds of federal agents. Every day, there's there's more evidence

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on the record that shows that JA six is not

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what they intended. J six, the how they characterized Jay six,

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and that's it. There's nothing, Or maybe they'll go back

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a few years to Charlottesville in UVA.

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I mean, what was that.

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Yes, while we could talk about I can talk about

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six things that just happened in the past month.

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Hmm. Yeah. But you know that's their story and they're

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sticking to it, and it's just it's just crazy making.

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And then you know, every time they bring up Jay six,

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they go, wait a minute, there's only one person that

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had a gun and killed somebody, and that was a

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Capitol police officer, which was a bad shoot. I don't care.

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Anybody that knows anything about training and weapons and guns

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and this sort of thing would never have made that

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shot in a crowd of people. But this knucklehead he shoots.

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He kills a ten year veteran. Right, she's kind of

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you know, caught in the in this window for this

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door as they were going through and breaching breaching in

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the area. But he fires a weapon and kills this woman.

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Yeah, and look at all the abuse of power that

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J six triggered from the left.

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Oh yeah, right, we saw what's.

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Coming out today, the Arctic frost.

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Or Biden's Arctic Frost.

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Yes, yeah, exactly.

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So you were wiretapping sitting senators, You were investigating dozens

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of conservative organizations who had even the most mini minuscule

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a touch point to this, You've disbarred, You've tried to

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disbar and destroy numerous lawyers.

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For simply doing their jobs. I mean, there's there's individuals.

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Who are serving who are simply providing a memo, a

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legal memo and providing legal advice to the President of

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the United States who've been dragged through the ringer and

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through and not to mention the fact that all the

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individuals who who you've jailed without due process rights. I mean,

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we're not even talking about the most egregious affronts to

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liberty with regarding to JA six.

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So spare me your J six spiel.

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And that's somehow being incidences of political violence that's hackneyed

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and useless. I will talk about again, assassination of Charlie Kirk,

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attempted assassination of President Trump multiple times. We're talking about

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every day what happens in Portland, Oregon, in Chicago, Illinois.

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We're talking about the influen attempt just yesterday again attempting

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to bomb the Red Mass. We're talking about going after

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justice in the United States Supreme Court. So so, just

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just give me a break. The left has no claim

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on this at all. It is it is left. This

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Marxists who are perpetuating political violence in this country.

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Let's be very clear about that.

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Help me understand. I don't know where I've been, but

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the Red Mass reference? What you know?

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Oh, I think I wish I knew exactly where it is.

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It's a Catholic mass that happened, that happens for the

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Supreme Court justices and bar and there's a reason I

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wish I knew the actual the rationale behind it.

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I should, God help me, I should know this as

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a Catholic.

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Well, well, I mean that I'm the same way. I'm

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with you, and I go, I have not heard about,

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you know, the Red Mass, So I thought, okay, let me,

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let's while we're talking.

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They'll probably explain it.

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Yeah. I mean, it's like it's a Catholic mass annually

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offered towards all members of the legal profession, regardless of

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religious affiliation. Judges, lawyers, you know.

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All.

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God's chilling. I guess, uh and uh. But it's not

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giving me references.

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I don't know if it's a reference to Saint Thomas.

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Moore or not.

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That's again that I could be wrong on that one too,

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But that's.

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Well, it's in reference to the red vestments. Well, the

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red vestments would usually represent martyrdom.

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Thomas Moore.

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Yeah again, I I should I'm actually should be getting

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I might get myself in trouble here because.

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Well, yeah, I mean, we're trying to do we're trying

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to do this on the fly here and uh, it's

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celebrating honor of Saint Ives, the patron saint.

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Of the lawyers.

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Okay, there you go, Eric, So uh so that's that's

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the reference. So anyway, so some clarity, but obviously we'll

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do some more understanding on but let's let's talk about

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you know, what's going on in Portland, you know, in

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these cities, I mean the violence in Chicago and how

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these uh the city officials and the governors are resisting

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what's going on when you can see with your eyes

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wide open that there's madness and chaos on the streets

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of Chicago and Portland.

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Absolutely, and what's the president trying to do? He's trying

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to It's funny. This is again the hyperbole of the

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left is astounding on this president's Actually, if you look

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at the numbers here, if you hear from the left,

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you hear from the officials in Oregon and Chicago. You

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would think that they're poised to deploy the one hundred

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first Airborne Division into the streets of these of these

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cities and rolled tanks and Blackhawk helopopters into them. We're

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talking about two hundred National Guard troops, two hundred from

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Texas to go in and ensure that there's operational security

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for these federal buildings are secure and that ICE agents

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can effectuate their duties, which again a couple hundred. There's

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no effort to take over cities right Oftentimes, again, there's

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a clear need for this, and the statute provides when

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ICE agents aren't unable to enforce the law because of

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the fact that they're not getting the necessary support from

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the local police departments, that they need to bring in

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other elements to ensure security in these in these chaotic regions,

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in these chaotic cities, the president has the authority to

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nationalized Federal Guard troops and to.

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Deploy them accordingly.

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And again the Left is so caught up in their

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Trump hatred that they lose the obvious. You think you'd

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want more law enforcement assets in your city to provide security,

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but I guess, of course that's not the case.

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In no, it doesn't matter. Well, look at look at

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it happened in Chicago. I mean here Ice was. I mean,

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they were being attacked. They call and ask their you know,

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their brothers in blue help out. Well, the brothers in

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blue locally, their hands are tied, they're handcuffed because the

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mayor says, hey, if you help them, you're fired.

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I'm stand down orders from at least reported stand down

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orders from their Well, well.

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It's more than reported. I mean, they had audio transcription

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of this. So but yet they plausibly deny and try

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to come up with some other story and say, well

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they got there. I think, what in thirty minutes or whatever.

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I mean, wait a minute, these guys are calling, there's

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an emergency. A lot can happen in third minutes. I mean,

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at that.

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Point, happened in thirty seconds, yes, exactly.

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Yeah. And and the kind of thing I mean, you

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had a situation with one person having a gun, you know,

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a semi automatic weapon, and uh, you know, you know,

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and the uh, the Ice agent, the Border Patrol agent

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took took that didn't take him out, but had you know,

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defended himself as he was being dragged underneath the car.

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Somehow he was able to uh use his service weapon.

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I mean, this is this is insane. And then look

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at what's happening with the attacks on ICE. It's gone

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up but over one thousand percent.

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Yeah, and and and then you've get you get on four.

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This is I cannot believe. This is again another more

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mind blowing thing. You know, how do you not have

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unified Democrats, unified party Democrats, Republicans standing together for law

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and order.

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The Governor of.

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California is saying, challenging, challenging the mask You know, of

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course ICE agents hide their identity and mask themselves and

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keep and one don't want the cartels to under to

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know who they are because they're being targeted. Bounties are

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set on their heads. And yet you have a governor

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of California saying, no, you can't be masked when you're

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effectuating your ICE your duties as an ICE agent. What

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is It's it's just bizarre world to me, Bill that

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we can't have unified messaging. That Hey, it's if you're

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here illegally, you're going to be subject to deportation. If

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you're committing violence on federal law enforcement or any law enforcement,

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you're going to be dealt with swiftly and aggressively, and

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it's just beyond.

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Well, you know, and these immigrants don't get it. I mean,

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it's interesting. I was watching some video this morning and

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Christy nome Is, she's out there, she's amongst them, and

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they had arrested and illegal and he goes, hey, let

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me out, you know, let me out of the car,

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you know, let me go. No, we caught you. You know,

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you had a chance to voluntarily, you know, deport you didn't.

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And now you're going to jail, you're going to pay

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a fine, and you're never going to come back again

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in uh and until you know, if and when or

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until a democratic president comes into play, they open the

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they open the border walls again.

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Yeah, and again there's there's multiple levels of this.

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immigration laws, which is necessary and important. Also you have

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the federal surges in these cities that that that the localities,

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certain mayors are open to it, and certain are certain

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governors are open to it. I think you're seeing in

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Memphis there's going to be a federal surge. It worked

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in Washington, d C. Incidentally, I was in Washington, d C.

480
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Just this weekend at night, I was down on the

481
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waterfront in Georgetown and as I was walking down the

482
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waterfront up towards you.

483
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Could see the Kennedy Center just belong the Potomac. There

484
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were D eight uh resources just standing there ensuring security.

485
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And you know what, quite frankly, I said, oh, well

486
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that's good. There there there's a couple of dagents standing there.

487
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That's secure.

488
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Was perfectly safe, beautiful night, beautiful time to walk around.

489
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And I think that why on God's earth would you

490
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be opposed to having that in city insurance?

491
00:24:01.119 --> 00:24:03.640
Well, this is why the people's voice and mass have

492
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to be heard. I mean, they've got to take a

493
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stand against these elected officials because they've lost, Like you said,

494
00:24:08.599 --> 00:24:11.000
it's mind blowing, lost their mind. They're putting their own

495
00:24:11.000 --> 00:24:13.799
people at risk. You know, the people like in DC,

496
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like you said, they go there, they're going Thank god,

497
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I get to go down to the park, you get

498
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to go to dinner. You know, I haven't been able

499
00:24:18.839 --> 00:24:21.480
to go out to dinner for fear. Can you imagine

500
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in the United States of America and DC?

501
00:24:24.000 --> 00:24:27.200
Yeah, in Chicago this weekend there were thirty shootings and

502
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five deaths, five homicides, so just one weekend, thirty shoots.

503
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And the question, and I think the conclusion you have

504
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to draw is do you just accept that as a city.

505
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The interesting thing about the Trump administration is they look

506
00:24:40.119 --> 00:24:42.240
at it and they're being very unified in this. You

507
00:24:42.240 --> 00:24:45.440
can hear all the personnel talking about it.

508
00:24:45.519 --> 00:24:48.359
They don't accept this. We don't have to accept.

509
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The fact that our cities are no go that there

510
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are no go zones in it.

511
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And can you imagine now they're pronounced no go zones.

512
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This is insane. Anyway, we got to leave it there

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for now. He's with Landmark Legal. Mike O'Neil has been

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with us. Mike, thank you as always appreciated.

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Well, Good morning, America. Bill Martinez here, great to have

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you with us. We got doctor Wilfrid Riley joining us,

587
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the professor of political science at Kentucky State University, the

588
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author of Taboo Ten Facts you Can't talk About in Lies.

589
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My liberal teachers taught me, Hey, well, good morning. How

590
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are you.

591
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Good morning. I'm doing doing pretty well.

592
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Well, lots to catch up on. We've got insurrections in

593
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Portland and Chicago. These mayors and governors and what have

594
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you powers to be of these states that can't seem

595
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to control their populace. You know, they're just they're just

596
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so I don't know, brain damage over Donald Trump. They

597
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just they want no help and they need help. And

598
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you know, people are getting shot and murdered, but property

599
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being destroyed. But I guess it's all okay. I guess

600
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this is the new America. Somehow.

601
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Situation in Chicago was particularly crazy. I'm from Chicago, and

602
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what apparently happened was that Ice had a gun battle

603
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with a group of activists that included some members of

604
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the Latin Kings gang. So I mean they were driving

605
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in a convoy of vehicles and they were stopped and

606
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boxed in by I mean that takes about twice as

607
00:30:17.519 --> 00:30:21.319
many vehicles and people started getting out and demanding that

608
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they released prisoners, making threats. One activist who goes by

609
00:30:25.160 --> 00:30:29.160
the name La Maggie got shot. Actually, she had something

610
00:30:29.200 --> 00:30:31.599
like an Armaalite rifle on her and was brandishing that

611
00:30:31.640 --> 00:30:35.240
in an ICE agent shot her, and the Chicago police

612
00:30:35.279 --> 00:30:38.839
apparently just refused to participate in this whole thing there.

613
00:30:38.880 --> 00:30:41.079
Apparently Ice called the police and said, hey, we could

614
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we could use some help here, and the police just

615
00:30:43.319 --> 00:30:45.599
didn't arrive on the scene. They didn't they didn't respond

616
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at all, which is which is pretty unusual.

617
00:30:47.799 --> 00:30:50.279
So that happened the same thing. The same thing didn't

618
00:30:50.319 --> 00:30:53.440
happen in Portland as well, where ICE called for local

619
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police and then they lied about it. Or am I

620
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mixing the two?

621
00:30:57.839 --> 00:30:59.680
No, that's probably true. I mean, so a lot of

622
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these local cities. There was another one that didn't let

623
00:31:02.160 --> 00:31:05.359
a governor, Christy Nome use the bathroom. They like locked

624
00:31:05.359 --> 00:31:07.160
the city hall or something. So you see these two

625
00:31:07.160 --> 00:31:10.599
groups of people shouting on different sides of a framed

626
00:31:10.599 --> 00:31:13.920
glass door. I think a lot of these sanctuary cities

627
00:31:13.960 --> 00:31:17.000
have the policy that they don't aid ICE or they

628
00:31:17.039 --> 00:31:20.480
don't aid federal agencies in any way. I can't imagine

629
00:31:20.519 --> 00:31:25.079
that's legal. The mayor of a city can incite the

630
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population to attack federal agents and then tell the police

631
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not to assist them. I mean, at very least you

632
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would think the president or the governor or someone like

633
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that could intervene. And you know, and we saw the

634
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desegregation of the South. At some point the president can

635
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send in the army. There's no you can't just go

636
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on doing that kind of thing.

637
00:31:42.400 --> 00:31:44.119
Well, I think he's got to be careful. To your

638
00:31:44.119 --> 00:31:47.519
point here is that you know, obviously, nerves are a

639
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little raw, and it's not everybody. It's a small group

640
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of people, but they're they're very vocal, and they're getting

641
00:31:53.839 --> 00:31:56.440
a lot of tension from the media because it's anti

642
00:31:56.559 --> 00:32:00.799
Trump in trumped arrangement syndrome. That's running a muck here.

643
00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:03.920
But you know, the majority of citizens there in the

644
00:32:03.960 --> 00:32:06.319
community are going, yeah, clean it up. I mean, look

645
00:32:06.359 --> 00:32:09.799
at DC, DC said, all right, you know, mariel Bowser,

646
00:32:09.839 --> 00:32:14.000
finally you know relented. You know, DC is safer than

647
00:32:14.039 --> 00:32:16.319
it's ever been in many decades.

648
00:32:18.400 --> 00:32:20.599
I mean, I tend to think that most problems have

649
00:32:20.720 --> 00:32:24.880
pretty basic, practical solutions. I mean, so we've both mentioned Bukele,

650
00:32:25.119 --> 00:32:28.920
Senor Bukel down there in El Salvador, who has basically

651
00:32:28.960 --> 00:32:31.480
stopped crime. I mean, he built a series of prisons

652
00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:35.240
in one of the country's mountains, very Arkham asylum style,

653
00:32:35.839 --> 00:32:39.680
and sent pretty much all young male gang members to

654
00:32:40.119 --> 00:32:43.480
those prisons, and the homicide rate dropped from one hundred

655
00:32:43.599 --> 00:32:46.319
per one hundred thousand per year one hundred and six actually,

656
00:32:46.680 --> 00:32:49.559
to one per one hundred thousand per year. So that's

657
00:32:49.599 --> 00:32:52.000
always in the background of all this fancy talk that

658
00:32:52.079 --> 00:32:55.039
if you just kill or jail criminals, crime goes away.

659
00:32:55.359 --> 00:32:57.920
So yeah, when Trump sent the army, sent the National

660
00:32:57.960 --> 00:33:00.759
Guard to d C. The troops, so the ones that

661
00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:03.119
you can see online are just kind of having fun

662
00:33:03.119 --> 00:33:04.920
with it, Like they're going to restaurants and they're like

663
00:33:04.960 --> 00:33:07.640
walking around planting trees and so on. There's not that

664
00:33:07.720 --> 00:33:11.000
much crime while they're standing there with their guns. But nonetheless,

665
00:33:11.039 --> 00:33:13.920
I mean, the point's been made that if you continually

666
00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:16.400
police crime, you have a lot less crime, which is good.

667
00:33:16.480 --> 00:33:18.759
Yeah, yeah, we're back to broken windows. You know, you

668
00:33:18.799 --> 00:33:20.559
got to take care of the little things. I mean,

669
00:33:20.599 --> 00:33:23.640
it's proven time and time again. But yet you know,

670
00:33:23.720 --> 00:33:28.559
the left and the Marxist regime that is rising here

671
00:33:28.559 --> 00:33:32.480
in our country. You know, they're about deconstructing. You know,

672
00:33:32.559 --> 00:33:36.440
let's just deconstruct civilization the West as we know it.

673
00:33:36.839 --> 00:33:39.920
And right now, I mean they see this will as

674
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an opportune time. I mean, America probably doesn't realize how

675
00:33:43.720 --> 00:33:44.559
vulnerable it is.

676
00:33:46.640 --> 00:33:50.599
I think that's true. Broadly speaking. A great deal of

677
00:33:50.680 --> 00:33:53.799
social science, and a great deal in particular of this

678
00:33:53.920 --> 00:33:58.559
Marxist stuff consists of people trying to complicate the simple,

679
00:33:58.640 --> 00:34:02.000
in my opinion. So I mean, obviously, if you say,

680
00:34:03.559 --> 00:34:07.640
just what we're talking about now, policing prevents crime, but

681
00:34:07.759 --> 00:34:11.920
really anything else, like obviously things other than racism predict performance.

682
00:34:12.199 --> 00:34:14.840
How much do kids study? All of this is just

683
00:34:14.920 --> 00:34:17.199
common sense stuff that your dad could have told you.

684
00:34:17.599 --> 00:34:20.559
But they're an endless number of sort of social scientific

685
00:34:20.599 --> 00:34:23.719
papers out there that look at the question without adjusting

686
00:34:23.719 --> 00:34:25.960
for the two most important things and so on that

687
00:34:26.159 --> 00:34:28.280
kind of argue that that's not the case. So like

688
00:34:28.320 --> 00:34:31.920
broken windows policing is just the idea that if you

689
00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:35.039
have a rundown, shabby neighborhood where the windows are broken

690
00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:38.079
out of buildings, where people are taking the caps or

691
00:34:38.079 --> 00:34:40.360
the rims off cars where they're guys sitting on the

692
00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:43.039
corner playing dice, you're going to have a high level

693
00:34:43.159 --> 00:34:45.920
of real crime of mugging, rape and so on. And that,

694
00:34:46.480 --> 00:34:48.400
to anyone who's ever lived in a poor neighborhood's just

695
00:34:48.400 --> 00:34:51.320
common sense. So you target the guys that are playing

696
00:34:51.360 --> 00:34:53.440
dice on the corner. If you're a cop, you give tickets,

697
00:34:53.440 --> 00:34:54.320
you break up the game.

698
00:34:54.800 --> 00:34:54.920
Right.

699
00:34:55.039 --> 00:34:58.000
Well, there's actually a whole literature in criminal justice explaining

700
00:34:58.039 --> 00:35:00.559
why that's not true. Why, like living in a dangerous

701
00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:02.559
slum doesn't necessarily predict that you're going to have a

702
00:35:02.639 --> 00:35:06.039
higher rate of murder in particular or something. So again,

703
00:35:06.199 --> 00:35:09.039
I think that the broken windows theory is correct. I

704
00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:11.880
think that theory has just won the argument. But there's

705
00:35:11.920 --> 00:35:14.760
a huge attempt to say that what everyone notices is

706
00:35:14.800 --> 00:35:15.280
not real.

707
00:35:16.960 --> 00:35:20.920
Well, and the thing is is that again all that's

708
00:35:21.039 --> 00:35:25.039
being hyper valued, you know, by the media that has

709
00:35:25.280 --> 00:35:28.519
a narrative in mind, has an agenda in mind, that

710
00:35:29.320 --> 00:35:34.239
seems to want to participate with this rise of Marxism.

711
00:35:35.599 --> 00:35:37.920
Well, the media is an unusual bunch in the USA,

712
00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:41.800
because the media in America is very much one sort

713
00:35:41.840 --> 00:35:46.199
of thing, like post ivy or big ten urban upper

714
00:35:46.239 --> 00:35:49.320
middle class coastal and that's the case to a really

715
00:35:49.480 --> 00:35:52.400
remarkable extent. So, like when Pew Research looked at this

716
00:35:52.480 --> 00:35:55.000
in two thousand and four, they found that I believe

717
00:35:55.000 --> 00:35:57.639
it was ninety three percent of media members identified with

718
00:35:57.719 --> 00:36:00.840
the left, like they were Marxist, liberally glow or center

719
00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:01.719
left right.

720
00:36:01.760 --> 00:36:05.559
I'm sorry, it wasn't even close. And anybody that declared

721
00:36:05.599 --> 00:36:08.480
themselves as conservative they hate them.

722
00:36:08.719 --> 00:36:09.280
Well, yeah, it was.

723
00:36:09.360 --> 00:36:11.119
It was seven percent of the media. And I mean

724
00:36:11.119 --> 00:36:13.360
there were some like Paty Cannon, baby can there's some

725
00:36:13.400 --> 00:36:15.559
respected columnists in there, but it was it was just

726
00:36:15.559 --> 00:36:20.599
an extraordinarily small number. Like all the libertarians, conservatives, and

727
00:36:20.760 --> 00:36:24.119
center rightists together were seven percent. Like I said, some

728
00:36:24.239 --> 00:36:26.000
moderates too, but I mean those were mostly in the

729
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center left categories.

730
00:36:27.079 --> 00:36:27.280
It was.

731
00:36:27.440 --> 00:36:30.039
It was just a crazy comparison of you know, X

732
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percent to seven percent.

733
00:36:32.559 --> 00:36:35.559
Yeah, but when you look at the predominance of information

734
00:36:36.280 --> 00:36:39.800
and journalism that's put out there, it's no wonder. I mean,

735
00:36:40.639 --> 00:36:43.840
this generation has been so indoctrinated, as we know, by

736
00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:49.000
leftist professors that have overwhelmed education, the media on down,

737
00:36:49.800 --> 00:36:52.719
and it's it's almost like we need a do over

738
00:36:52.760 --> 00:36:55.280
here will where you know, I always say, when we've

739
00:36:55.280 --> 00:36:56.880
lost our way, we need to go back to the

740
00:36:56.920 --> 00:37:00.719
beginning and think about, you know, this great Ama idea,

741
00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:04.519
what it was about, you know, Western civilization, the victories

742
00:37:04.559 --> 00:37:09.079
that Western civilization have been able to accomplish on behalf

743
00:37:09.119 --> 00:37:14.360
of the people that you know embraced this this form

744
00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:15.079
of governance.

745
00:37:18.320 --> 00:37:21.280
I mean, I think that when people talk about propaganda

746
00:37:21.320 --> 00:37:24.360
and society, it's not always I mean, like your teacher

747
00:37:24.440 --> 00:37:27.760
in a mainstream university case state or UK or something

748
00:37:27.880 --> 00:37:30.400
isn't going to be like a card carrying communist with

749
00:37:30.440 --> 00:37:32.880
a red beret on or something. But the issue is

750
00:37:32.920 --> 00:37:35.719
that all the defaults are going to be defaults on

751
00:37:35.800 --> 00:37:37.280
the side of the left. And I don't think a

752
00:37:37.320 --> 00:37:40.719
lot of people, including a lot of centrist democratic professors,

753
00:37:40.920 --> 00:37:44.800
understand how noticeable that is. So, I mean, my fiance

754
00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:48.320
recently read a marriage and family sciences textbook from one

755
00:37:48.320 --> 00:37:50.440
of the local colleges. A friend of hers is teaching

756
00:37:50.440 --> 00:37:53.880
the class as an adjuct businesswoman, and everything in the

757
00:37:53.960 --> 00:37:57.519
textbook was presented from this sort of negative late wave

758
00:37:57.599 --> 00:38:01.159
feminist perspective. So none of it's razy, none of its abusive,

759
00:38:01.159 --> 00:38:04.760
but it's all like chapter one domestic violence, chapter two,

760
00:38:04.880 --> 00:38:07.840
the importance of your own bank account, you know, chapter three,

761
00:38:08.119 --> 00:38:10.840
the complications of pregnancy, and it's on and on and on,

762
00:38:11.480 --> 00:38:13.559
and I think it would be just as easy to

763
00:38:13.599 --> 00:38:16.159
write that from say a Christian wife perspective, like what's

764
00:38:16.159 --> 00:38:21.719
the most important thing in marriage and communication? Spirituality? I mean,

765
00:38:21.760 --> 00:38:24.440
like you could easily do the conservative version, which would

766
00:38:24.440 --> 00:38:26.880
be a lot healthier, you know, just advice for husbands

767
00:38:26.880 --> 00:38:29.840
and wives cook together. And that's not what you're getting

768
00:38:30.519 --> 00:38:33.159
post all the people that are listening to the media,

769
00:38:33.480 --> 00:38:38.159
that are going to mainstream government schools so on. What

770
00:38:38.199 --> 00:38:40.760
you're getting is what used to be called critical theory.

771
00:38:40.760 --> 00:38:42.000
And this is my last sense, but it used to

772
00:38:42.039 --> 00:38:44.440
be like a ten percent friend over here, like these

773
00:38:44.480 --> 00:38:46.559
guys are the commedies and the socialists, and they've got

774
00:38:46.599 --> 00:38:49.159
some interesting ideas. These guys are the feminists. No one

775
00:38:49.159 --> 00:38:51.360
ever thought the feminists and the communists would be writing

776
00:38:51.360 --> 00:38:54.920
like the American history textbook, so they are now the

777
00:38:55.079 --> 00:38:58.760
mainstream position, like a people's History of the United States

778
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is the most assigned text. That's essentially really crazy.

779
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Yeah, it absolutely is. We've got to go to quick break.

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at KSU Kentucky State University, continues with us, I guess

861
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to kind of summarize where we are will in this culture,

862
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is that you know, we have really been raised with

863
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this adversarial and antagonistic about in such a way that

864
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I mean, I think it's okay to have, you know, conflict,

865
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as long as you have an avenue to where you

866
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can resolve the conflict and resolve these differences. Otherwise we

867
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lack civility. And now, I mean, you've got crazy stuff

868
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like this one what ag out in Virginia sending out

869
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a text a couple of years ago that he wanted

870
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to assassinate his police foe in this I mean, that's crazy.

871
00:44:02.719 --> 00:44:05.360
Huh, yeah, it's a little weird. I mean, so there

872
00:44:05.480 --> 00:44:07.119
are two levels to that. I mean, we've seen a

873
00:44:07.119 --> 00:44:09.519
lot of these leaked text messages lately. First of all,

874
00:44:09.519 --> 00:44:12.039
the Attorney General's comments are crazy. I'm not gonna defend him,

875
00:44:12.039 --> 00:44:14.559
but we've seen a lot of these leaked messages lately.

876
00:44:14.599 --> 00:44:16.800
I mean, like there's a claim that Charlie Kirk backed

877
00:44:16.800 --> 00:44:19.159
away from supporting Israel made by Candice Owns. I don't

878
00:44:19.159 --> 00:44:21.519
even know that those messages are real. Like, it's very

879
00:44:21.599 --> 00:44:24.519
possible to take a text screen and like print put

880
00:44:24.559 --> 00:44:26.360
anything on it in word. I think that's probably what

881
00:44:26.400 --> 00:44:28.599
happened there. But in this case, I mean, this person

882
00:44:28.679 --> 00:44:30.320
was texting a friend on the other side of the

883
00:44:30.360 --> 00:44:33.000
aisle and said that his opponent's kids were little fascists

884
00:44:33.079 --> 00:44:35.320
and if he were alone in I mean this actually

885
00:44:35.400 --> 00:44:36.920
maybe a joke, but if he were alone in a

886
00:44:37.039 --> 00:44:40.280
room with like Mao Hitler and his political opponent, to

887
00:44:40.360 --> 00:44:43.679
shoot the other guy twice? Uh, you know, unacceptable. But

888
00:44:44.360 --> 00:44:46.480
should you leak that stuff? I don't know if it

889
00:44:46.559 --> 00:44:50.400
really varies, but the actual the reaction to the comments,

890
00:44:50.440 --> 00:44:55.280
I think is the craziest thing. His popularity, this guy,

891
00:44:55.360 --> 00:44:58.920
Jay Jones grew. So there's a polster that looked at

892
00:44:58.960 --> 00:45:03.599
how Democrats feed about the candidate after these crazy statements,

893
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and he's up to sixty percent in the polls, so

894
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that I think the deeper issue is that there's increasing

895
00:45:11.639 --> 00:45:15.239
support for political violence among young people, and that's too

896
00:45:15.280 --> 00:45:18.159
high among everyone, but it's really concentrated on the left.

897
00:45:18.400 --> 00:45:20.519
So like fifty eight percent of left wing young people

898
00:45:20.599 --> 00:45:24.800
say violence against large random groups like the rich is okay.

899
00:45:25.360 --> 00:45:27.039
And I think you're seeing that in terms of these

900
00:45:27.119 --> 00:45:29.039
voting patterns, there's problematic.

901
00:45:29.199 --> 00:45:32.079
Well, and as you say this polling, it's so disturbing

902
00:45:32.320 --> 00:45:34.639
because you got these young kids saying, you know, here,

903
00:45:34.840 --> 00:45:38.119
especially on the heels of Charlie Kirk and saw you

904
00:45:38.159 --> 00:45:42.039
saw the video, you saw the assassination the murder of

905
00:45:42.159 --> 00:45:44.559
Charlie Kirk. But these kids, I don't know if they

906
00:45:44.639 --> 00:45:47.360
just looked at it like another video game or something,

907
00:45:47.679 --> 00:45:52.039
you know, unreal, but here for them to be so

908
00:45:52.280 --> 00:45:55.679
seared in their conscience that they would think it's okay

909
00:45:55.719 --> 00:45:59.639
to assassinate a political person. I think Donald Trump and

910
00:45:59.679 --> 00:46:03.119
Eli Musk are the top two figures, you know, to

911
00:46:03.239 --> 00:46:08.280
be assassinated. I mean it's pretty scary, yeah, I mean.

912
00:46:08.440 --> 00:46:10.199
So that's one of the questions that was asked on

913
00:46:10.199 --> 00:46:12.079
one of these kind of polls, like not do you

914
00:46:12.119 --> 00:46:14.719
support political violence, but do you support political would you

915
00:46:14.719 --> 00:46:17.599
support assassinating Donald Trump or Elon Musk? And that produced

916
00:46:17.639 --> 00:46:21.840
even higher rates of approval among young political liberals, who

917
00:46:21.880 --> 00:46:24.119
seem to feel like it was almost their duty to

918
00:46:24.199 --> 00:46:26.719
do this, like you'd get these these big evil guys

919
00:46:26.760 --> 00:46:30.880
off the stage. And I think there's actually there's an

920
00:46:30.920 --> 00:46:36.239
element of brutal but logical analysis to that, like if

921
00:46:36.280 --> 00:46:39.199
you really think your opponent is Hitler, obviously you would

922
00:46:39.280 --> 00:46:41.840
kill Hitler. There's a whole internet meme like would you

923
00:46:41.920 --> 00:46:43.760
kill baby Hitler? Would you go back in time with

924
00:46:43.800 --> 00:46:45.960
the knife just get rid of them? And it's about

925
00:46:45.960 --> 00:46:48.280
fifty to fifty when people vote on that. The problem though,

926
00:46:48.320 --> 00:46:51.079
is that your opponents here aren't Hitler, like Donald Trump

927
00:46:51.159 --> 00:46:55.159
is a non racist, center right Republican president. So yeah,

928
00:46:55.199 --> 00:46:59.519
the figures are disturbing, and it comes from this demonization

929
00:46:59.599 --> 00:47:01.920
of huge chunks of people over a long period of time.

930
00:47:02.440 --> 00:47:05.719
Well, and it's amazing how they'll use that to kind

931
00:47:05.719 --> 00:47:08.599
of weave in their own narrative and wedge in their ordeal.

932
00:47:08.679 --> 00:47:12.440
I mean, we've heard that argument before. You know, if

933
00:47:12.480 --> 00:47:15.480
you'd had a chance to abort Hitler, remember when it

934
00:47:15.519 --> 00:47:19.280
became part of the abortion Trump and you know, so

935
00:47:19.400 --> 00:47:22.280
here we are, you know, now dealing with Okay, it's

936
00:47:22.320 --> 00:47:25.679
back so now and as you say, you know, these

937
00:47:26.840 --> 00:47:30.760
media types and political figures, I mean, you know, their

938
00:47:30.840 --> 00:47:34.480
rhetoric has been uncivil. And it's amazing to me because

939
00:47:34.519 --> 00:47:36.519
the left of goal, well, the right does the same thing,

940
00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:40.480
They say the same thing. I think there's a little

941
00:47:40.519 --> 00:47:44.079
difference here from calling somebody Hitler and calling them fat

942
00:47:44.599 --> 00:47:45.079
or ugly.

943
00:47:47.320 --> 00:47:50.639
I mean, I think that there are two different things

944
00:47:50.639 --> 00:47:52.760
that I would say make this a little less obnoxious

945
00:47:52.760 --> 00:47:55.440
on the right. The first is that the right tends

946
00:47:55.480 --> 00:47:59.280
to cancel people for things that are at least arguably cancelable,

947
00:48:00.000 --> 00:48:02.840
you know. I mean like when Charlie Kirk was murdered,

948
00:48:03.039 --> 00:48:08.280
there was a wave of right wingers posting the contexts,

949
00:48:08.440 --> 00:48:11.000
the bosses and so on of people who mocked that.

950
00:48:11.559 --> 00:48:13.800
But the people who did that were doing generally very

951
00:48:13.840 --> 00:48:17.880
explicit things, like they were designing memes showing blood splashing

952
00:48:17.880 --> 00:48:21.079
out of out of Kirk's wounded neck, this kind of stuff.

953
00:48:21.320 --> 00:48:25.159
And I think that historically, mocking, say Martin Luther King,

954
00:48:25.239 --> 00:48:28.639
mocking like a major public figure who is assassinated has

955
00:48:28.719 --> 00:48:30.800
really been viewed as over the line, like a punk

956
00:48:30.880 --> 00:48:35.480
man called itself that did Kennedy's once, and record stores

957
00:48:35.480 --> 00:48:38.760
wouldn't stock their music. It was just that that's recognized

958
00:48:38.800 --> 00:48:41.760
as a taboo. The problem that the right had with

959
00:48:41.880 --> 00:48:44.840
left wing cancel culture, I think in some of its hypocrisy,

960
00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:47.039
this is like ninety percent of it is that people

961
00:48:47.079 --> 00:48:50.760
were being canceled for things that aren't major faux pau

962
00:48:51.559 --> 00:48:53.360
so like James de Moore was one of the first

963
00:48:53.400 --> 00:48:56.639
people that was canceled. He was a Google executive who said, look,

964
00:48:56.679 --> 00:48:58.519
one of the reasons we may not have as many

965
00:48:58.519 --> 00:49:01.159
female coders is that men at the upper end are

966
00:49:01.159 --> 00:49:04.880
better at Matt, that's just true. It's like saying women

967
00:49:04.920 --> 00:49:07.480
have a high level of verbal ability, or women tend

968
00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:10.280
to be preferred by children. It's just it's true. So

969
00:49:11.440 --> 00:49:14.000
that's I think what sparked a lot of this, Like

970
00:49:14.039 --> 00:49:17.599
you couldn't say men aren't women on social media for

971
00:49:17.679 --> 00:49:20.840
eight years, So that's a major difference to me.

972
00:49:21.760 --> 00:49:25.719
Well, you know, I think and again, you know, the

973
00:49:25.760 --> 00:49:30.119
tipping point I still go back is when Elon Musk

974
00:49:30.159 --> 00:49:35.280
bought Twitter, he reopened you know, the venues for freedom

975
00:49:35.320 --> 00:49:37.920
of speech. And then all of a sudden, now you

976
00:49:37.960 --> 00:49:42.280
know now that post Biden, you get these social media

977
00:49:42.320 --> 00:49:44.639
platforms going, well, the government made me do it. The

978
00:49:44.760 --> 00:49:47.840
FBI came in and they tormented us and made us

979
00:49:48.199 --> 00:49:52.559
steal your First Amendment right away from you. And you know,

980
00:49:52.599 --> 00:49:55.960
as a result, we suffered in many levels because we

981
00:49:55.960 --> 00:49:59.519
were dealing with COVID, we're dealing with some personality dysfunction

982
00:49:59.599 --> 00:50:02.840
out of this. I think the damage will We're probably

983
00:50:02.840 --> 00:50:04.960
going to do an analysis, you know, ten years down

984
00:50:04.960 --> 00:50:11.000
the road and assess the damage as being just inestimable.

985
00:50:13.039 --> 00:50:15.280
Yeah, I think that a big part of the damage.

986
00:50:15.320 --> 00:50:17.960
And by the way, the point about there was extreme

987
00:50:18.000 --> 00:50:20.880
censorship on the left prior to any of these claims

988
00:50:20.920 --> 00:50:24.519
about right wing cancel culture or you know, Trump fighting

989
00:50:24.559 --> 00:50:26.960
with Jimmy Kimmel or something that is worth repeating. Like

990
00:50:27.280 --> 00:50:30.800
my first article ever for National Review, I was Elon

991
00:50:30.880 --> 00:50:32.320
Musk follows me on Twitter. I don't know whether he

992
00:50:32.360 --> 00:50:33.920
did at this time, but I was able to obtain

993
00:50:34.000 --> 00:50:37.559
some access into what old Twitter had been doing, and

994
00:50:37.920 --> 00:50:41.840
it was just remarkable, Like there were individual admins assigned

995
00:50:41.960 --> 00:50:45.880
to the accounts of specific figures like Charlie Kirk. You

996
00:50:45.880 --> 00:50:47.840
could look behind the scenes and you could see how

997
00:50:47.880 --> 00:50:50.679
many strikes they had ready to go against these guys

998
00:50:50.679 --> 00:50:53.440
if they slipped up and said something that what was

999
00:50:53.480 --> 00:50:56.199
happening was what the rate at which they were liked

1000
00:50:56.360 --> 00:50:58.679
was being throttled. So this guy, I mean, is a

1001
00:50:58.679 --> 00:51:01.920
bit on the hard right. Steve Sailor once said, you know,

1002
00:51:01.960 --> 00:51:04.119
I had for ten years, I had fifty three thousand

1003
00:51:04.119 --> 00:51:06.920
Twitter followers, and then Elon Musk bought Twitter, and now

1004
00:51:06.920 --> 00:51:08.880
I'm at one hundred and twenty thousand or whatever it is.

1005
00:51:09.119 --> 00:51:10.840
He's up there with me, if not a little ahead,

1006
00:51:11.440 --> 00:51:13.960
you know, that's not a coincidence, that's true. Like all

1007
00:51:14.000 --> 00:51:16.119
of that was set up behind the scenes, you had

1008
00:51:16.119 --> 00:51:20.360
people like Bajaya Gatti, who are well known liberal public activists,

1009
00:51:20.400 --> 00:51:24.239
regulating all this, and that's this was the case to

1010
00:51:24.280 --> 00:51:27.719
a remarkable degree, Like there was a specific guy deciding

1011
00:51:27.719 --> 00:51:30.760
how many likes you could get on Twitter or Facebook, right,

1012
00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:33.679
and we are now through that, which is pretty pretty notable.

1013
00:51:34.239 --> 00:51:36.519
Yeah, I want to change subjects here in a little bit.

1014
00:51:36.519 --> 00:51:38.239
I don't know if you caught this or not, but

1015
00:51:39.039 --> 00:51:43.199
we reported on this quite extensively, going back to Miranda

1016
00:51:43.239 --> 00:51:49.719
Devine's book, Peter Schweiser talking about the Biden family consortium

1017
00:51:49.800 --> 00:51:55.679
and Ukraine and everything. Now, FBI documents John Rancliffe has

1018
00:51:56.679 --> 00:52:01.360
released documentation in fact state that you know that Joe

1019
00:52:01.360 --> 00:52:05.679
Biden himself told the intelligence community, Hey, I'd rather not

1020
00:52:05.800 --> 00:52:08.519
that stuff get out. Let's just put it in a

1021
00:52:08.559 --> 00:52:11.480
burn bag or do whatever you want. Well, it didn't

1022
00:52:11.480 --> 00:52:13.760
get burnt like the other stuff that was supposed to

1023
00:52:13.800 --> 00:52:16.519
go on the burn bag. And now the cat's out

1024
00:52:16.559 --> 00:52:19.519
of the bag and it's confirmed all that has been

1025
00:52:19.559 --> 00:52:23.000
previously reported about Joe Biden and his family.

1026
00:52:24.800 --> 00:52:27.599
I mean, I'm not surprised by that. Like Biden, there

1027
00:52:27.639 --> 00:52:30.639
obviously was a lot of crookedness going on behind the scenes.

1028
00:52:30.760 --> 00:52:33.000
I mean, there were all these stories that were circulating

1029
00:52:33.000 --> 00:52:35.480
in the conservative media, like Hunter Biden was given a

1030
00:52:35.519 --> 00:52:38.719
diamond at some resort hotel by a Chinese tycoon that

1031
00:52:38.760 --> 00:52:41.440
apparently was true. I don't know how he got that

1032
00:52:41.599 --> 00:52:46.679
back to where he lived, questions remained. But all this

1033
00:52:46.679 --> 00:52:48.559
stuff was going on. I mean, Hunter Biden was on

1034
00:52:48.599 --> 00:52:52.079
the board of Barisma in Ukraine. He has no oil

1035
00:52:52.199 --> 00:52:55.800
or gas experience, you know, he seemed to be traveling

1036
00:52:55.800 --> 00:52:57.800
around the world. The line on the right was picking

1037
00:52:57.840 --> 00:53:00.519
up bags of cash with his father's approval, and there

1038
00:53:00.559 --> 00:53:02.199
were all these calls.

1039
00:53:01.440 --> 00:53:05.679
And he's flying on Air Force too, I guess, you know,

1040
00:53:05.840 --> 00:53:08.760
at the people's expense, thank you very much, you know, yeah.

1041
00:53:08.760 --> 00:53:10.360
But I mean just all of it, Like I mean,

1042
00:53:10.679 --> 00:53:12.639
was their coke on the air well on the plane

1043
00:53:12.639 --> 00:53:14.639
when Hunter was there, and they found a bag of

1044
00:53:14.679 --> 00:53:16.920
coke in the White House, which ring rings up some

1045
00:53:16.960 --> 00:53:19.639
suspicion about you know, who's that could have been. But

1046
00:53:19.760 --> 00:53:21.519
this was all going on in the background, and the

1047
00:53:21.519 --> 00:53:24.559
big part of this actually was the deals. I mean,

1048
00:53:24.599 --> 00:53:28.199
another conversation between Hunter and a Chinese tycoon, one of

1049
00:53:28.199 --> 00:53:30.519
his comments was, I want to get this deal finalized tomorrow.

1050
00:53:30.559 --> 00:53:33.280
I've got my principal, the other guy in the room,

1051
00:53:33.519 --> 00:53:35.519
and the person was Joe Biden, and Joe Biden came

1052
00:53:35.559 --> 00:53:37.679
on the phone and said a nice weather up there

1053
00:53:37.760 --> 00:53:40.960
or something like that, and then he immediately blinked out.

1054
00:53:40.960 --> 00:53:44.719
And that actually is how influenced pedalic happens. People aren't

1055
00:53:44.760 --> 00:53:46.880
going to sit in a room which may or may

1056
00:53:46.880 --> 00:53:48.679
not be bucked and say something like, as the vice

1057
00:53:48.679 --> 00:53:51.639
president of the United States, I propose a corrupt deal.

1058
00:53:52.119 --> 00:53:52.360
You know.

1059
00:53:52.440 --> 00:53:55.559
So Biden did almost exactly what you'd expect the boss

1060
00:53:55.559 --> 00:53:57.679
in one of those settings to do. And we're we're

1061
00:53:57.679 --> 00:54:01.159
now seeing more evidence that that was probably correct, right well,

1062
00:54:01.199 --> 00:54:03.199
you know, seeing the final evidence that Russiagate was just

1063
00:54:03.239 --> 00:54:04.119
fake by the way.

1064
00:54:04.239 --> 00:54:06.159
Oh yeah, without a doubt, throwing that in the mix

1065
00:54:06.199 --> 00:54:09.639
as well. Well, you know, Hillary Clinton invented the term

1066
00:54:09.719 --> 00:54:14.119
plausible deniability, I believe, and that has been the mantra

1067
00:54:14.159 --> 00:54:18.760
in the playbook, you know, for the corrupt Democratic officials.

1068
00:54:18.960 --> 00:54:22.400
But I still am waiting, Will. I don't know how

1069
00:54:22.440 --> 00:54:25.320
this stays away from Barack Obama. We got thirty seconds left.

1070
00:54:25.320 --> 00:54:26.320
I'll let you wrap it up.

1071
00:54:27.440 --> 00:54:29.320
I mean, I think it's not going to stay away

1072
00:54:29.320 --> 00:54:31.239
from Obama. The question is whether the media is going

1073
00:54:31.280 --> 00:54:33.199
to cover any of this stuff that happens. I mean,

1074
00:54:33.199 --> 00:54:36.199
we always hear Obama's biggest scandal was wearing a tan suit.

1075
00:54:36.239 --> 00:54:38.079
I mean no like Barack. Obama at one point lost

1076
00:54:38.079 --> 00:54:40.440
seventeen thousand guns in Mexico. One of them was used

1077
00:54:40.440 --> 00:54:42.559
by a Sakario to shoot a border patrol agent who

1078
00:54:42.559 --> 00:54:44.599
had a pretty pregnant wife. I mean it just you.

1079
00:54:44.800 --> 00:54:47.400
Nothing happens if you don't hear about it. Who controls

1080
00:54:47.400 --> 00:54:48.320
the information flow?

1081
00:54:48.840 --> 00:54:51.400
Well, there it is. He's the professor of political science

1082
00:54:51.400 --> 00:54:54.719
at Kentucky State University, author of Taboo, Ten Facts you

1083
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Can't Talk about. Of course we talk about him here

1084
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because we're that Henry and Li's my liberal teacher taught me. Uh,

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1107
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Getting America back on track. Bill Martinez Live.

1108
00:56:16.119 --> 00:56:18.159
Welcome morning, and welcome. Good to have you with us America.

1109
00:56:18.199 --> 00:56:20.519
Bill Martinez here just about six minutes after the top

1110
00:56:20.559 --> 00:56:22.920
of the hour. Ryan Morrow is where this seems been

1111
00:56:22.960 --> 00:56:24.559
missing in action for a while. Actually, it's been so

1112
00:56:24.679 --> 00:56:27.400
doug on busy it's been hard for us to connect.

1113
00:56:27.920 --> 00:56:30.079
But I'm glad we finally have been able to do so,

1114
00:56:30.199 --> 00:56:33.039
especially with this breaking news that you have on your hands.

1115
00:56:33.119 --> 00:56:38.400
Ryan, Yeah, it's been a wild couple of weeks because

1116
00:56:38.599 --> 00:56:42.079
we were working on this report about George Soros and

1117
00:56:42.320 --> 00:56:44.039
money where the money actually goes, because you have a

1118
00:56:44.079 --> 00:56:46.599
lot of exaggerations and conspiracy areas, and we want to

1119
00:56:46.599 --> 00:56:48.599
find out the truth. So we looked at his own

1120
00:56:48.639 --> 00:56:52.039
record from his own website. The end idea of the

1121
00:56:52.039 --> 00:56:54.880
time is something he spends his money on, and the

1122
00:56:54.920 --> 00:56:58.760
results were a bit more shocking than I anticipated. We

1123
00:56:59.119 --> 00:57:03.320
found over eighty million dollars since twenty sixteen that we

1124
00:57:03.400 --> 00:57:03.760
know about.

1125
00:57:03.760 --> 00:57:05.960
Their website actually says they don't.

1126
00:57:05.719 --> 00:57:09.639
Disclose grants when they think it hurt the grantee, the

1127
00:57:09.639 --> 00:57:12.880
people receiving the money, or the organization. So of just

1128
00:57:12.880 --> 00:57:16.440
the stuff that they're comfortable telling you about, over eighty

1129
00:57:16.519 --> 00:57:20.719
million dollars went to domestic terrorist groups, like literal domestic

1130
00:57:20.800 --> 00:57:24.079
terrorist groups or groups that are pro terrorism like they

1131
00:57:24.159 --> 00:57:27.000
love humas in the US or around the world.

1132
00:57:27.599 --> 00:57:30.679
Yeah, exactly. Ryan, by the way, ladies and gentlemen, is

1133
00:57:30.719 --> 00:57:34.519
an investigative researcher of extremist groups for Capital Research Center.

1134
00:57:35.360 --> 00:57:38.280
He's ever since I've known him, he's been one that's

1135
00:57:38.320 --> 00:57:40.199
been in search of the truth and this is what

1136
00:57:40.280 --> 00:57:43.320
drew us and connected us early on, probably about I

1137
00:57:43.400 --> 00:57:45.039
want to say, at least fifteen years ago.

1138
00:57:45.119 --> 00:57:47.000
Ryan, I was just thinking that too.

1139
00:57:47.079 --> 00:57:50.519
Yeah, you know, it's probably during the ISIS days, probably over.

1140
00:57:50.360 --> 00:57:53.760
Twenty yeah, yeah, exactly. So we go back aways. So,

1141
00:57:54.639 --> 00:57:58.280
you know, I think over the years, we've been you know,

1142
00:57:58.400 --> 00:58:01.599
kind of confused, particularly the last ten years, you know,

1143
00:58:01.639 --> 00:58:06.159
suspicions of increased regarding the seeming orchestration of protesters terror groups,

1144
00:58:06.320 --> 00:58:10.519
especially here Domestically, the mainstream media narrative is generally pointed

1145
00:58:10.559 --> 00:58:13.880
to BLM or Antifa, maybe an occasional white supremacist group

1146
00:58:13.920 --> 00:58:19.400
including conservative parents or MAGA enthusiasts. Right, But here it

1147
00:58:19.480 --> 00:58:21.920
is you take a look, you say, you know from

1148
00:58:21.920 --> 00:58:26.039
their website, and you will also, as the Bible says,

1149
00:58:26.079 --> 00:58:29.400
you'll know them by the fruit they produce. So all

1150
00:58:29.400 --> 00:58:32.360
you got to do is look at what Soros is

1151
00:58:32.400 --> 00:58:35.440
producing there, And the fruit is hanging on the tree

1152
00:58:35.559 --> 00:58:39.039
right there in front of everybody to see, is it not. Yeah?

1153
00:58:39.400 --> 00:58:41.960
And I think that's almost why this wasn't discovered earlier,

1154
00:58:42.360 --> 00:58:45.400
because there was reporting on Soros. I mean, obviously a

1155
00:58:45.440 --> 00:58:47.599
lot are reporting on Soros as far back as I

1156
00:58:47.639 --> 00:58:49.559
can remember I think I first heard his name in

1157
00:58:49.599 --> 00:58:53.679
two thousand and three, but there was no one that

1158
00:58:53.719 --> 00:58:55.760
actually went through all of the grants. So well, coming

1159
00:58:55.840 --> 00:58:58.280
drips and drafts, you hear about a grant here, a

1160
00:58:58.360 --> 00:59:01.280
grant there, and to anyone who skeptical at all, especially

1161
00:59:01.280 --> 00:59:03.639
someone that was aware of, frankly, some of the wild

1162
00:59:03.679 --> 00:59:06.400
conspiracy theories about him, you would say, well, out of

1163
00:59:06.440 --> 00:59:08.719
all the thousands and thousands of grands it gives away

1164
00:59:08.719 --> 00:59:11.280
each year, there's probably gonna be some mistakes, some people

1165
00:59:11.280 --> 00:59:13.920
that trick them. And I can I can understand why

1166
00:59:13.960 --> 00:59:16.360
people would think that, But you can look at this

1167
00:59:16.440 --> 00:59:19.480
now and say there's no mistake because there are groups

1168
00:59:19.800 --> 00:59:22.400
that reporters have confronted them about and they've said, no, no,

1169
00:59:22.400 --> 00:59:24.719
they're not connected to terrorism, and the reporters were like,

1170
00:59:25.000 --> 00:59:27.440
can you look at what we're publishing, and then they

1171
00:59:27.480 --> 00:59:28.559
continue to fund them.

1172
00:59:28.519 --> 00:59:29.280
Year after year.

1173
00:59:29.639 --> 00:59:31.800
So it's very obvious to me that at the top

1174
00:59:31.880 --> 00:59:35.599
of the Cerro's Foundation there's either there's either direct orders

1175
00:59:35.639 --> 00:59:38.519
to fund groups that are like this or it just

1176
00:59:38.519 --> 00:59:41.480
doesn't bother them enough to care, in which case there's

1177
00:59:41.519 --> 00:59:46.199
that still deliberate funding. And so the conspiracy theories were

1178
00:59:46.239 --> 00:59:50.239
correct to that extent about all this money floating around

1179
00:59:50.679 --> 00:59:52.920
and you just you can't believe it, Like over twenty

1180
00:59:52.920 --> 00:59:56.159
three million of that over eighty million went to at

1181
00:59:56.239 --> 01:00:00.599
least seven groups that openly engage in or promote crime

1182
01:00:00.679 --> 01:00:04.119
on US soil that qualifies as domestic terrorism according to

1183
01:00:04.159 --> 01:00:08.559
the FBI's definition. Property damage, setting things on fire, harassing people,

1184
01:00:09.079 --> 01:00:13.239
economic sabotage like shutting down roads or block eating a building,

1185
01:00:13.880 --> 01:00:17.440
all of this stuff. And it's amazing because the New

1186
01:00:17.480 --> 01:00:19.800
York Times has done two reports on this, and even

1187
01:00:19.800 --> 01:00:22.199
though they're eyes against us, they even said in the

1188
01:00:22.559 --> 01:00:25.519
last report they said, well, what this report from Couple

1189
01:00:25.599 --> 01:00:30.199
Research Center shows is Sorrows grant money going to groups

1190
01:00:30.199 --> 01:00:33.679
that support October seventh and engage in violent crime like

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01:00:33.719 --> 01:00:35.920
property damage on US soil.

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Like that emission is unbelievable.

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Well it isn't. And the thing is for you know,

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people like ourselves that believe in the constitution are scratching

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our heads and saying, how is this allowed? I mean,

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you've got basically someone walking into our country having full access,

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probably even gaining access to, you know, government grants the

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taxpayers are paying for to fund our own demise. I mean,

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George Soros clearly is not for the Constitution, is.

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He he would he would say he is, but he's

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more about himself.

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It was interesting.

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I was talking to someone from Media Research Center who

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is an expert, like part of his job is to

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follow George Soros, so he knows more about his background

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than I do. I just know about this specific element

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of what he does. And I was asking him, like,

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but what is this guy's ideology? Because they claim to

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be standing up for the Constitution, you know, that's kind

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of a secondary priority.

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I think for them that that's just when it works

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for their agenda and.

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Says it far left because some of this stuff is

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not progressive or liberal, and I'm having trouble putting it together.

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01:01:38.239 --> 01:01:40.559
And he said, well, what his ideology is is himself.

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And he sent me a series of really creepy quotes

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coming from Soros, where yes, he's a man.

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Of what we call the far left.

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Politically, he favors that side, but these quotes where he

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openly talks about having a monstrous god complex and basically

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wanting to control the world and to build a borderless

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society globally. That's why his group's name is open society foundation.

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It's the idea of ripping open everything, so there's no borders,

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there's no filter, and everything's just like one entity. And

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01:02:09.559 --> 01:02:12.280
so what's creepy about him is that his ideology is

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is himself?

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Right? Well, isn't he in a sense, you know what

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you might identify as a globalist Ryan, I mean, he's

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a World Economic Forum guy.

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01:02:22.559 --> 01:02:26.960
Yeah, so he's a globalist, but he's also a soorroist.

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01:02:27.000 --> 01:02:30.400
Like he's he's seeing the guy controlling the.

1232
01:02:30.360 --> 01:02:32.760
Globe exactly, That's what I'm saying. He's seeing the world

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coming together under one government, and he's he's the head cheese.

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He's right, right, it's all this something like how open

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is your society?

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Of one guy controls all of it?

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You know?

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He so has all these internal contradictions.

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01:02:46.920 --> 01:02:48.679
Well, but that's the nature. I mean, here we are

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in New York dealing with, you know, a potential socialist

1241
01:02:55.320 --> 01:02:59.480
mayor here, and you know, and and these the socialists

1242
01:02:59.480 --> 01:03:02.559
are out of the you know, our good friend Trevor Lauden,

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01:03:02.679 --> 01:03:04.679
for the last ten years has been yelling from the

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rooftops that the enemy is living amongst us, the card

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01:03:08.400 --> 01:03:12.239
carrying Democrats, socialists, you keep electing them into office and

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01:03:12.280 --> 01:03:16.760
eventually they're going to take over. And here here's what

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you've got. I mean, they're all out. I mean you've

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got Kathy Hokeel, the governor of New York, endorsing Mom Donnie.

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You've got other Mam Donnieites that are sprouting out across

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the country because of you know, it's interesting because ran

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01:03:32.039 --> 01:03:33.519
the way I look at it, when you look at

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01:03:33.559 --> 01:03:37.559
the genesis of it all, it's the Democrats. They're policies

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that have created this h in affordability that is hurting

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01:03:42.239 --> 01:03:44.920
these kids, that's not allowing them to buy homes and

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put their futures in jeopardy. And so why not think that,

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you know, capitalism doesn't work, but it's you know, maybe

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socialism is the way to go, right.

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Right, Yeah, So if youse do policies that need it

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01:03:58.800 --> 01:04:01.679
not work and your solution is to overthrow it, it

1260
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becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. But I like what you

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said about Democrats socialists of America and being that specific,

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01:04:08.480 --> 01:04:11.679
because it's true. The vast majority of Democrats leads that

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I know, and the polling data does support this. They

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don't like hamas, they don't like this type of stuff.

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There is a gap between what you see online and

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01:04:19.639 --> 01:04:20.960
then what you see in terms of.

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01:04:20.960 --> 01:04:23.880
The actual voter. But tribalism rules all.

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I mean, what the New York City mayoral race shows

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is that tribalism trumpets Trump's any type of moral standard.

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01:04:32.239 --> 01:04:33.280
And you can say that plus to both.

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And it's really clear on the left of this one

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because I could agree with him on every policy, just

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01:04:38.800 --> 01:04:41.679
pretend I did, but just morally and in terms of

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01:04:41.679 --> 01:04:43.599
the threat to America, the stuff that he has said,

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the people he's tied to housing policy, and agreeing with

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01:04:47.079 --> 01:04:49.800
him on like tax issues, that gets thrown that should

1277
01:04:49.800 --> 01:04:51.719
get thrown to the side when you're dealing with a

1278
01:04:51.760 --> 01:04:54.719
guy like this and Democrats Socialists of America. I just

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can't emphasize this enough. First of all, that they hate

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the Democratic Party. So people that are like rallying behind

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him because he's a fellow Democrat, you're not aware of

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what he's a part of because he wants to destroy you.

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But they're pross like be defended the attacks. They endorsed

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Iran's attacks on Israel, Iran's firing missiles at Israel, and

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they're cheering them on.

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Like.

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Yeah, But other than that, they're nice people. We've got

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to go to quick break. We've got more from Ryan

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With you, has promised nineteen minutes after the top of

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the hour. Right now, I'm Bill Martinez's Ryan Morrow, an

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investigative researcher of extremist groups for a Capital Research Center. Ryan,

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as you were saying about you know about tribalism, I

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mean you go back to George Washington's farewell address. I

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mean he put it in terms of parties that the

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constructor the construct of parties would divide us. Tribalism divides us.

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Everything that doesn't promote America as a unified ideal an idea,

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fragments us. And this is where we are right now,

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and people are wondering, you know, why everybody's at each

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other's throats and that sort of thing, And that is

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because we've lost the sight of united We stand divided,

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we fall right.

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Yeah, if you can grab me any superpower, it would

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be the ability to take George Washington's farewell address and

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staple it to everyone's forehead once a year and make

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them read it, because it is the best political commentary

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I've ever seen, by far, the most prophetic. And he

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explains that just by having a political party system like this,

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or you just start establishing them, it just inevitably results

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in this stuff. At the very least, he and the

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other founders that to contain the spirit of parties, so

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you can, you know, if you're gonna have it, fight

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against it and be aware that that's They actually described

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it as the biggest threat to.

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The United States and every horng ability to operate. But

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Washington said, just just don't have them.

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And I think in today's day and age, I can

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understand why previously, but with the way with the internet

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and the technology and everything today, I have no use

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for him. I see the I don't see any added

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value to them at all.

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Exactly. Well, you know, they they like the system really well.

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I mean, when you've got is this right, well yeah,

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I mean insider trading and stuff. Nancy Pelosi, how many

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millions of dollars? I mean, all these elected officials they

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make bazillions. I mean they come in broke and you know,

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even AOC is a bartender. I mean, look, look what

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her value is, what she up to about twenty eight

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million in counting. I mean, it's.

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Absurd, it's it's amazing.

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And think about if you took away that rallying point

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of political party, because now it's like if you criticize

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a Democrat or a Republican and they voted that way,

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they take it very personally because politics is the new religion.

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Which is essentially what Washington said would happen.

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It would because everything would become very, very personal. You

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wouldn't be talking about ideas anymore. You'd be talking about

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tribes exactly. So everyone roused their own side. And we

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have to be honest with ourselves that it has to

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be affecting you and me too, because we're human like it.

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So it causes a certain paralysis of the mind. It

1427
01:12:33.000 --> 01:12:35.359
affects our behavior. To me, I think it's just the

1428
01:12:35.359 --> 01:12:39.079
most toxic thing. And if everyone just rans an independent

1429
01:12:39.119 --> 01:12:41.439
imagine if you took all that away, so then guess

1430
01:12:41.439 --> 01:12:44.039
what you have to talk about the virtues of the person,

1431
01:12:44.399 --> 01:12:46.039
the actual policy.

1432
01:12:45.760 --> 01:12:46.920
And you could be unique.

1433
01:12:47.039 --> 01:12:49.199
It wouldn't be like, oh, I'm voting for that guy

1434
01:12:49.199 --> 01:12:50.920
and I know everything he stands for, just because of

1435
01:12:50.920 --> 01:12:52.399
the d or the art next to his name, you'd

1436
01:12:52.399 --> 01:12:53.520
actually have to learn.

1437
01:12:54.600 --> 01:12:57.399
Right, well, the deal is maybe, you know, let's get

1438
01:12:57.479 --> 01:12:59.239
rid of the parties and you just say we're all American.

1439
01:13:00.119 --> 01:13:04.279
Yeah right, not what a novel concept, But you're exactly right.

1440
01:13:04.319 --> 01:13:07.720
Do you realize how many peaceful Thanksgiving dinners we'd have

1441
01:13:08.119 --> 01:13:10.399
waiting for us in the future if we got rid

1442
01:13:10.399 --> 01:13:13.640
of the party system? I mean John Naysmith I Bliss

1443
01:13:14.079 --> 01:13:16.119
was it twenty five years ago in his book Mega

1444
01:13:16.119 --> 01:13:19.279
Trends said that the two party system was like two

1445
01:13:19.600 --> 01:13:23.000
dinosaurs mating. And I've been waiting for the demise of

1446
01:13:23.039 --> 01:13:26.159
this two party system, you know, to go away once

1447
01:13:26.199 --> 01:13:28.039
and for all, because a lot of what he predicted

1448
01:13:28.079 --> 01:13:31.640
has come true, you know. And so but here we are.

1449
01:13:31.760 --> 01:13:36.439
We're dragging this this system along with us. Though it's

1450
01:13:36.479 --> 01:13:38.760
I think most of us would agree it's not working.

1451
01:13:39.840 --> 01:13:42.000
Yeah, the number of independents is skyrocketing.

1452
01:13:42.199 --> 01:13:43.720
It's actually if it was a political party of you

1453
01:13:43.760 --> 01:13:44.840
the largest political party.

1454
01:13:44.880 --> 01:13:45.079
Now.

1455
01:13:45.279 --> 01:13:47.359
I remember when it wasn't that way. Independence were still

1456
01:13:47.399 --> 01:13:49.960
like a larger minority. So all the trends are going

1457
01:13:50.000 --> 01:13:52.479
in this way. A long time ago, like twenty I

1458
01:13:52.520 --> 01:13:54.720
would say, like twenty five years ago, maybe even longer.

1459
01:13:54.760 --> 01:13:57.359
I bought end political parties dot Com.

1460
01:13:58.039 --> 01:13:59.920
Always wanted to develop this concept because I was like,

1461
01:14:00.159 --> 01:14:02.560
nobody's even talking about this idea, and I.

1462
01:14:02.479 --> 01:14:05.119
Think if they did, it would catch on very rapidly.

1463
01:14:06.319 --> 01:14:08.319
So you know, who knows, maybe one day they'll be

1464
01:14:08.319 --> 01:14:10.359
a donor out there that want that wants to fund

1465
01:14:10.640 --> 01:14:14.319
Having someone you know, developed that concept, well.

1466
01:14:14.199 --> 01:14:16.119
It's a matter of timing and got out there.

1467
01:14:16.159 --> 01:14:17.880
Ever, I think it would become very popular.

1468
01:14:18.239 --> 01:14:20.039
Well, like you said, look at what's happened with the

1469
01:14:20.039 --> 01:14:23.319
growth of independence. I mean they've realized that neither party

1470
01:14:23.359 --> 01:14:25.079
is serving their purpose. I think that one of the

1471
01:14:25.119 --> 01:14:28.039
brilliant things that Trump came up with was MAGA because

1472
01:14:28.039 --> 01:14:30.479
it gave them to identify with something that, you know,

1473
01:14:30.520 --> 01:14:35.319
make America great again. What what is wrong with that? Yeah,

1474
01:14:35.640 --> 01:14:38.640
that's that's not It doesn't burning right, Yeah, it doesn't.

1475
01:14:38.960 --> 01:14:42.840
It doesn't align itself specifically, you know, with a Republican

1476
01:14:42.920 --> 01:14:44.520
or a democraticist says, hey, do you want to make

1477
01:14:44.520 --> 01:14:46.680
America great again? Yeah? I don't care what kind of

1478
01:14:46.880 --> 01:14:49.359
you know, what party you came from. You know, bring

1479
01:14:49.399 --> 01:14:51.960
your ideas. The tent is brought. It's wide and look

1480
01:14:52.000 --> 01:14:54.000
what happened. I mean, you know, Trump has brought in

1481
01:14:54.319 --> 01:14:57.720
you know, RFK Junior, Tulsea Gabbard, there's other you know

1482
01:14:58.279 --> 01:15:02.439
previously uh, you know, previously committed Democrats that have come

1483
01:15:02.479 --> 01:15:04.760
over to the Republican side. But again, I don't want

1484
01:15:04.760 --> 01:15:07.439
to promote parties. I'm like you, Ryan, I'm waiting for

1485
01:15:07.479 --> 01:15:09.520
the day and braying for the day that we can

1486
01:15:09.600 --> 01:15:12.760
just think of as Americans and put these ideas on

1487
01:15:12.800 --> 01:15:15.840
the table. And you know, because when you look at

1488
01:15:15.840 --> 01:15:18.560
the Force and the Brunch and what's made America great,

1489
01:15:18.960 --> 01:15:22.199
it's this independence. It's this work ethic that we have

1490
01:15:23.279 --> 01:15:25.840
and the freedom that is available to us to be

1491
01:15:25.880 --> 01:15:29.000
the best version of ourselves. There's no other country on

1492
01:15:29.039 --> 01:15:31.760
the planet that allows this to happen, right.

1493
01:15:32.800 --> 01:15:35.399
It's the most amazing thing. And if we went in

1494
01:15:35.399 --> 01:15:37.239
that direction, I think it's inevitable that we will. Well,

1495
01:15:37.239 --> 01:15:40.520
I'd like to see it in my lifetime. Big industries

1496
01:15:40.560 --> 01:15:43.640
are gonna change, and people don't realize the nonprofit political industry,

1497
01:15:43.800 --> 01:15:47.479
the news media industry, everything is built around this tribal

1498
01:15:47.600 --> 01:15:51.439
business models that really it's bad for the country. I

1499
01:15:51.439 --> 01:15:53.800
think it's bad for business. But there's been no competitors,

1500
01:15:53.800 --> 01:15:55.640
sort of like how podcast came out, and it's a

1501
01:15:55.680 --> 01:15:59.279
simple contest, simple concept makes a ton of money.

1502
01:15:59.399 --> 01:16:00.279
It was always there.

1503
01:16:00.279 --> 01:16:03.560
It was just nobody had thought, oh, maybe people don't

1504
01:16:03.600 --> 01:16:07.359
like the three minute news segments, maybe people want longer conversations.

1505
01:16:07.439 --> 01:16:09.279
And then finally you get Joe Rogan and these other

1506
01:16:09.279 --> 01:16:11.640
people come by and they try and it just explodes

1507
01:16:11.840 --> 01:16:14.000
because but it was obviously like what we should have

1508
01:16:14.000 --> 01:16:16.479
been doing right right there. I got to ask you also,

1509
01:16:16.479 --> 01:16:18.479
because you're I mean, you're professional radio, as you've been

1510
01:16:18.479 --> 01:16:21.880
around a long time, is there is your advocacy for

1511
01:16:22.479 --> 01:16:26.039
greater independence from the party system. Does that pose a

1512
01:16:26.119 --> 01:16:29.439
threat to your own prospects? Because I would imagine at

1513
01:16:29.479 --> 01:16:33.359
a certain point, the party apparatus, the people who meg

1514
01:16:33.399 --> 01:16:36.319
a living off that and live through it, they would

1515
01:16:36.359 --> 01:16:36.680
hate you.

1516
01:16:36.800 --> 01:16:38.600
Right well, I mean, oh yeah, I can I can

1517
01:16:39.199 --> 01:16:43.000
tell you. Uh, you know, we got hits severely when

1518
01:16:43.319 --> 01:16:47.800
you know Biden took the election in twenty twenty, uh,

1519
01:16:48.119 --> 01:16:51.520
you know, because it really exacerbated us against them even

1520
01:16:51.560 --> 01:16:53.960
more so. I mean it was tough enough already with Trump,

1521
01:16:54.000 --> 01:16:56.720
and it wasn't necessarily that we were just so pro

1522
01:16:57.920 --> 01:17:01.279
you know, pro Republican or pro Trump, because we're pro American.

1523
01:17:01.560 --> 01:17:03.560
We've always been that way. In fact, when you look

1524
01:17:04.000 --> 01:17:06.960
at the history of the show, we say up front,

1525
01:17:06.960 --> 01:17:08.840
this is not about the Republican Party, it's not about

1526
01:17:08.840 --> 01:17:11.279
the Democratic We're in pursuit of the truth. I mean,

1527
01:17:11.279 --> 01:17:14.239
this is how you and I connected because we're both

1528
01:17:14.479 --> 01:17:16.760
you know, truth pursuers. You know, we just want to

1529
01:17:16.840 --> 01:17:18.760
lay it out there and do it in a way

1530
01:17:18.840 --> 01:17:21.319
where there's a format and a platform where you can

1531
01:17:21.720 --> 01:17:24.199
have a broader conversation. You know, I've seen you on

1532
01:17:24.279 --> 01:17:26.920
other shows. I mean they give you about three minutes. Well,

1533
01:17:26.920 --> 01:17:31.439
how can you lay this out in five minutes? I mean,

1534
01:17:31.640 --> 01:17:34.920
there's so much to this, and this is all part

1535
01:17:34.920 --> 01:17:36.960
of the problem because you know, you come up and

1536
01:17:37.000 --> 01:17:39.520
you bring the receipts and say, hey, here's Soros, here's

1537
01:17:39.560 --> 01:17:42.079
eighty million dollars. What are we talking about? Fifty four

1538
01:17:42.159 --> 01:17:45.680
different groups that are associated with us? That is thousands

1539
01:17:45.680 --> 01:17:48.840
of people because we're just talking individual groups, but within

1540
01:17:48.880 --> 01:17:52.039
each group or you know, thousands of people within that network.

1541
01:17:52.319 --> 01:17:56.239
And so this is this is quite immense, and so

1542
01:17:56.279 --> 01:17:58.840
you have a lot there and to be given only

1543
01:17:59.359 --> 01:18:02.079
you know, three five minutes to break it down. I

1544
01:18:02.079 --> 01:18:03.119
think it's impossible.

1545
01:18:04.239 --> 01:18:06.359
Yeah, exactly right, And you're right now the fifty four

1546
01:18:06.359 --> 01:18:09.239
groups that we found that are involved in domestic terrorism

1547
01:18:09.359 --> 01:18:12.680
or supporting terrorism verbally, some of those groups, like that

1548
01:18:12.800 --> 01:18:15.239
number is so low because some of the groups are

1549
01:18:15.279 --> 01:18:17.880
coalitions and I only counted them as one. So like

1550
01:18:17.920 --> 01:18:20.560
there's one that has three hundred groups in it.

1551
01:18:21.560 --> 01:18:24.840
Jeez wow. Yeah, So this is massive. This is a

1552
01:18:24.880 --> 01:18:27.640
massive network that people need to wake up to because

1553
01:18:27.800 --> 01:18:29.800
you know, they're all scratching their head. You know, most

1554
01:18:29.800 --> 01:18:32.199
common sense Americans who sit there and just say, hey,

1555
01:18:32.199 --> 01:18:35.560
why can't we get along? Well, maybe you know now

1556
01:18:35.560 --> 01:18:38.079
why we can't go get along. It's because we've got

1557
01:18:38.439 --> 01:18:42.720
too many, you know, divergent groups and ideas that are

1558
01:18:42.760 --> 01:18:45.000
out there that are not interested in the same thing

1559
01:18:45.039 --> 01:18:46.960
as you and I are interested in, and that is

1560
01:18:46.960 --> 01:18:48.039
a United America.

1561
01:18:49.079 --> 01:18:49.319
Yeah.

1562
01:18:49.479 --> 01:18:54.439
I mean, they're nefarious actors. They purposely spew filth and

1563
01:18:54.520 --> 01:18:57.439
anti American filth, anti Semitic filth, and they.

1564
01:18:57.279 --> 01:18:58.119
Make money doing it.

1565
01:18:58.520 --> 01:19:01.880
So if they want to back capitalism, pull up their

1566
01:19:01.920 --> 01:19:04.600
tax records of the ones that are registered nonprofits and

1567
01:19:04.640 --> 01:19:07.000
look how much they're making. You'll be surprised and you

1568
01:19:07.079 --> 01:19:09.239
know what, you'll also see a lot of them got

1569
01:19:09.239 --> 01:19:11.840
to get big bump in their revenue and their personal

1570
01:19:11.920 --> 01:19:14.520
salaries of their top officers after October seventh.

1571
01:19:14.640 --> 01:19:17.079
Why because they all cashed in those protests.

1572
01:19:17.119 --> 01:19:22.039
You saw that that was a solicit soliciting for investment,

1573
01:19:22.079 --> 01:19:25.439
that was fundraising because those costs like nothing to do,

1574
01:19:25.720 --> 01:19:27.800
but they get you new members. You can fundraise like

1575
01:19:27.880 --> 01:19:29.800
heck off of it, and then you get a nice

1576
01:19:29.840 --> 01:19:32.039
bonus for your officers. And you know that there's very

1577
01:19:32.079 --> 01:19:33.720
few people that are actually going.

1578
01:19:33.600 --> 01:19:34.239
To look at it.

1579
01:19:34.640 --> 01:19:37.880
Yeah, exactly, And that's the whole deal. All this antagonism,

1580
01:19:38.079 --> 01:19:40.880
whether it comes from politicians or not. You're exactly right.

1581
01:19:41.079 --> 01:19:44.800
It's a fundraising opportunity for them, all right. I mean

1582
01:19:44.840 --> 01:19:49.600
we're all being work ladies and gentlemen. You gotta wake up. Yeah, exactly.

1583
01:19:49.760 --> 01:19:53.039
Ryan Marrol, the investigative researcher of extremist groups for Capital

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01:19:53.119 --> 01:19:55.760
Research Center, has been our guest. Ryan has always appreciate

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the time. God speed, my friend, Take care.

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I'm tasting gumbo already because we've got National Gumbo Day

1662
01:24:15.239 --> 01:24:17.920
coming up, and Jason Doron is going to be joining

1663
01:24:18.000 --> 01:24:20.039
us in just a moment. Yes, the chef, the Cajun

1664
01:24:20.159 --> 01:24:24.159
Ninja and cookbook author himself. So we're talking from the

1665
01:24:24.199 --> 01:24:27.760
Bayous to the big cities. National Gumbo Day is recognized

1666
01:24:27.800 --> 01:24:31.359
each year to celebrate the flavors and culture that go

1667
01:24:31.479 --> 01:24:35.039
into creating great gumbo. As I mentioned, the chef Jason

1668
01:24:35.079 --> 01:24:38.000
Doron is with us, and of course he's renowned as

1669
01:24:38.039 --> 01:24:43.079
the Cajun Ninja for his trademark pai Yah, and the

1670
01:24:43.159 --> 01:24:47.720
chef is teaming up with Explore Luisi Ana to showcase

1671
01:24:47.760 --> 01:24:50.920
the foods that make the states so special. Jason, welcome,

1672
01:24:50.920 --> 01:24:52.880
good to have you with us.

1673
01:24:53.840 --> 01:24:56.439
It's an absolute pleasure, Bill, thank you well.

1674
01:24:56.680 --> 01:25:03.319
National Gumbo Day a happy Gumbo day for everybody. Right, oh?

1675
01:25:03.439 --> 01:25:05.479
Correct, all right.

1676
01:25:05.319 --> 01:25:07.880
So tell us what is National Gumbo Day For those

1677
01:25:07.920 --> 01:25:12.359
that are in the dark and they haven't deliciously enjoyed,

1678
01:25:12.399 --> 01:25:16.960
what National Gumbo Day is all about? Yeah?

1679
01:25:16.960 --> 01:25:20.199
Look, National Gumbo Day is October twelfth. It's when Louisiana

1680
01:25:20.319 --> 01:25:24.359
comes together to celebrate our state dish. Gumbo isn't just food.

1681
01:25:24.399 --> 01:25:26.840
It's a story in a bowl, from New Orleans seafood

1682
01:25:26.840 --> 01:25:29.840
gumbo to chicken and sausage gumbo all throughout a Cadiana.

1683
01:25:30.399 --> 01:25:33.439
It should also be said that gumbo isn't just beloved here.

1684
01:25:33.479 --> 01:25:36.760
It's also controversial. A gumbo recipe is sacred.

1685
01:25:37.119 --> 01:25:37.319
You know.

1686
01:25:37.399 --> 01:25:40.119
Every family swears theirs is the right way. Everyone has

1687
01:25:40.199 --> 01:25:42.640
their own little bit of pete yah, serving you a

1688
01:25:42.680 --> 01:25:44.479
bowl that pops you right in the mouth.

1689
01:25:44.800 --> 01:25:48.399
Right exactly. Wow, that looks so good, and it's interesting,

1690
01:25:48.439 --> 01:25:50.840
you know, like you say, every family has their own

1691
01:25:51.000 --> 01:25:56.359
nuance and specialty. That makes just Gumbo Day and gumbo

1692
01:25:57.359 --> 01:25:58.479
just so unique.

1693
01:25:58.560 --> 01:26:05.920
Right, Oh, yeah, absolutely, man. You know, gumbo is it

1694
01:26:05.960 --> 01:26:09.000
has a history. It's the original melting pot, born in Louisiana.

1695
01:26:09.359 --> 01:26:14.000
It blends West African okra, French rue, Spanish spices, Native

1696
01:26:14.000 --> 01:26:18.000
American fela powder. Every region adds its own touch. Cajun

1697
01:26:18.000 --> 01:26:21.359
gumbo's got that dark, smoky rou Creole gumbos are layered

1698
01:26:21.359 --> 01:26:24.359
with herbs, okra and sometimes tomatoes. But you know, a

1699
01:26:24.359 --> 01:26:26.600
true Louisian a seafa gumbo, now that brings the Gulf

1700
01:26:26.640 --> 01:26:29.199
straight to your bowl exactly.

1701
01:26:29.239 --> 01:26:32.920
Oh it looks so good. So let's talk about the

1702
01:26:32.960 --> 01:26:37.600
importance of National Gumbo Day. Why did National Gumbo Day

1703
01:26:37.640 --> 01:26:38.600
come into existence?

1704
01:26:41.680 --> 01:26:41.920
You know.

1705
01:26:42.039 --> 01:26:44.159
The reason why it's so important is because it's just

1706
01:26:44.159 --> 01:26:47.319
the perfect excuse to get your pot, hit it up,

1707
01:26:48.079 --> 01:26:49.239
you know, and then we get on the phone and

1708
01:26:49.319 --> 01:26:51.880
we bring some folks together, you know. And Louisiana gumbo

1709
01:26:52.000 --> 01:26:54.880
means family and community, and it often starts with a

1710
01:26:54.960 --> 01:26:58.279
dark brown rue, the holy trinity of onions, celery, and

1711
01:26:58.319 --> 01:27:02.560
bell peppers, followed by some sausage, chicken, or seafood, each

1712
01:27:02.600 --> 01:27:05.279
added at just the right time. No matter the version,

1713
01:27:05.359 --> 01:27:08.560
a true gumbo is always simmered, low and slow. National

1714
01:27:08.560 --> 01:27:12.039
Gumbo day reminds us that cooking together is what keeps

1715
01:27:12.079 --> 01:27:14.960
Louisian the culture alive. It's a chance to celebrate not

1716
01:27:15.000 --> 01:27:17.600
just a dish, but the rich cultural traditions behind it.

1717
01:27:18.359 --> 01:27:18.600
Well.

1718
01:27:18.640 --> 01:27:21.680
And like you say, with the traditions, it's family, it's

1719
01:27:21.800 --> 01:27:26.039
friends all coming together. And you know this is all

1720
01:27:26.079 --> 01:27:29.079
part and parcel of this rich history, you believe it

1721
01:27:29.159 --> 01:27:31.000
or not, of gumbo, right Jeff.

1722
01:27:33.319 --> 01:27:36.279
Oh, yeah, absolutely. You know. You know, for me, gumbo

1723
01:27:36.359 --> 01:27:37.199
is very personal.

1724
01:27:37.520 --> 01:27:40.439
You know, I was born in Thibodeaux and raising Homer, Louisiana,

1725
01:27:40.680 --> 01:27:43.239
So gumbo has always been a staple at the family table.

1726
01:27:43.560 --> 01:27:43.720
You know.

1727
01:27:43.800 --> 01:27:46.840
Now as a husband and a father, cooking alongside my

1728
01:27:46.880 --> 01:27:49.720
wife and my daughters and sharing stories over a bowl,

1729
01:27:49.920 --> 01:27:52.840
it's traditional Louisiana family time at its best. You know,

1730
01:27:52.840 --> 01:27:55.800
when I cook gumbo for others, I'm not just filling bellies.

1731
01:27:55.800 --> 01:27:58.359
I'm serving up a bowl of tradition. You know, gumbo

1732
01:27:58.439 --> 01:28:00.880
is part of who we are in Louisiana. It's it's

1733
01:28:00.920 --> 01:28:03.079
in my blood, it's my heritage. You know, it speaks

1734
01:28:03.119 --> 01:28:03.880
to my soul.

1735
01:28:05.840 --> 01:28:08.600
Chef, Uh, let's talk a little bit about you know

1736
01:28:08.680 --> 01:28:13.079
how the whole idea of gumbo came about. Do you

1737
01:28:13.119 --> 01:28:14.560
know when when it all began.

1738
01:28:17.520 --> 01:28:19.319
You know what, man, that's one of those things where

1739
01:28:19.680 --> 01:28:22.439
it will be heavily debated. But you know, like I said,

1740
01:28:22.479 --> 01:28:25.600
you know, it's kind of a cross of all all

1741
01:28:25.680 --> 01:28:28.279
kinds of cultures. You know, like I said earlier, you

1742
01:28:28.560 --> 01:28:32.479
got the West African Okra, French, rus, Spanish spices, you know,

1743
01:28:32.560 --> 01:28:35.399
Native American pilea powder. You know, I think what Louisiana

1744
01:28:35.439 --> 01:28:37.560
is really known for here is is taking a little

1745
01:28:37.560 --> 01:28:40.359
bit of everything and being like the Bruce Lee of cooking.

1746
01:28:40.439 --> 01:28:42.680
You know, we find in that best martial arts, we

1747
01:28:42.840 --> 01:28:45.159
combine them and you know, we we pop people right

1748
01:28:45.159 --> 01:28:45.840
in the mouth.

1749
01:28:46.159 --> 01:28:51.000
Right exactly, and you go, bute, Yeah, everybody's brother, you

1750
01:28:51.079 --> 01:28:53.399
got it already. Yeah. Here I am. I'm in the

1751
01:28:53.439 --> 01:28:55.640
mood here. I mean, you're getting the Mexican to say,

1752
01:28:55.680 --> 01:28:58.399
pai ya. I mean, everybody's good. What's going on here? Well,

1753
01:28:58.399 --> 01:29:01.640
it's gumbo and the and the The last time I

1754
01:29:01.720 --> 01:29:03.520
was in Louisiana, I mean, it was so much fun,

1755
01:29:03.640 --> 01:29:06.079
just like you said. I mean, it was like everybody

1756
01:29:06.119 --> 01:29:09.319
in the neighborhood came over. We were all, you know,

1757
01:29:09.439 --> 01:29:13.000
together and talking story and just having a great time

1758
01:29:13.079 --> 01:29:18.840
over gumbo. That's what we do, baby, Yeah, I love it.

1759
01:29:19.199 --> 01:29:23.199
So what makes let's talk about Yeah, I mean, like

1760
01:29:23.239 --> 01:29:28.359
you said, you know, Louisiana is such a cultural dynamic

1761
01:29:28.600 --> 01:29:32.239
of all these different cultures coming together. And I gotta

1762
01:29:32.319 --> 01:29:36.439
believe that's just what makes these different renditions and nuances

1763
01:29:36.520 --> 01:29:40.119
and recipes of gumbo just so special.

1764
01:29:39.800 --> 01:29:43.119
Right, Oh, absolutely.

1765
01:29:43.159 --> 01:29:46.920
Look, you know, gumbo's got more styles than Zydako's got songs.

1766
01:29:47.319 --> 01:29:48.920
You know, there's gumbos, the herbs.

1767
01:29:49.119 --> 01:29:51.960
You know, it's made with smother and greens and often

1768
01:29:52.039 --> 01:29:54.760
enjoyed during land. You know, there's the seafood gumbo with

1769
01:29:54.800 --> 01:29:58.640
the shrimp, crab, even oysters, and of course there's chicken

1770
01:29:58.640 --> 01:30:01.880
and sausage gumbo. You know, look all across Louisiana there's

1771
01:30:01.920 --> 01:30:06.960
festivals that celebrate gumbo with music, tastings, cookoffs and look,

1772
01:30:06.960 --> 01:30:09.239
if you really want to understand Louisiana, you grab a

1773
01:30:09.239 --> 01:30:12.359
bowl and you do as they say, lais le bon roule,

1774
01:30:12.720 --> 01:30:15.800
which means let the good signs roll right exactly.

1775
01:30:16.079 --> 01:30:18.199
Well, and like you said, it's interesting because I was

1776
01:30:18.199 --> 01:30:20.680
going to ask you about the gumbo cookoffs you know

1777
01:30:21.119 --> 01:30:24.000
that take place. I mean, you know you've got a

1778
01:30:24.079 --> 01:30:27.439
number of people coming out with their specialties, and you know,

1779
01:30:27.640 --> 01:30:32.600
like you say, you know, the competition raises the Louisiana style, right.

1780
01:30:34.960 --> 01:30:38.039
Oh yeah, Look, you get people all over Louisiana show

1781
01:30:38.079 --> 01:30:41.000
up to gumbo cookoffs and throw in their own specialty.

1782
01:30:41.560 --> 01:30:43.560
But I'll tell you the person who really wins every

1783
01:30:43.600 --> 01:30:46.760
gumbo cookoff is the judge, you know, because they get

1784
01:30:46.760 --> 01:30:47.399
to taste them all.

1785
01:30:49.079 --> 01:30:51.520
And I don't know how you're able to do that.

1786
01:30:51.600 --> 01:30:54.000
I mean I was a judge one time, and it

1787
01:30:54.079 --> 01:30:56.520
was hard to keep the taste separate, you know what

1788
01:30:56.520 --> 01:31:00.479
I'm saying. And remember, you know it's I think it's

1789
01:31:00.479 --> 01:31:02.439
an art in and of itself to be a judge,

1790
01:31:02.439 --> 01:31:05.479
and especially for gumbo because, like you said, you've got

1791
01:31:05.479 --> 01:31:09.039
all these different spices that are all mixed together. And uh,

1792
01:31:09.279 --> 01:31:10.800
I think that would be probably one of the most

1793
01:31:10.800 --> 01:31:11.880
difficult jobs to have.

1794
01:31:14.439 --> 01:31:16.159
Well, yeah, if you've only done it a couple of times,

1795
01:31:16.159 --> 01:31:18.840
it would be difficult. You know, nobody becomes a black

1796
01:31:18.840 --> 01:31:22.640
belt with one lesson, but over time, through repetition, you know,

1797
01:31:22.680 --> 01:31:23.840
that's where you become a master.

1798
01:31:24.399 --> 01:31:26.039
Well, chef, how did this start for you?

1799
01:31:28.520 --> 01:31:28.720
Oh?

1800
01:31:28.760 --> 01:31:31.439
You know, look, one day decided after getting laid off

1801
01:31:31.439 --> 01:31:33.359
in the all field that I was, you know, want

1802
01:31:33.439 --> 01:31:35.199
to do something I loved, and the one thing I

1803
01:31:35.199 --> 01:31:38.000
really loved was entertaining people, you know. So I did

1804
01:31:38.000 --> 01:31:40.800
a lot of things online that I thought were entertaining,

1805
01:31:40.840 --> 01:31:42.880
and cooking was one of those things.

1806
01:31:42.880 --> 01:31:43.600
And as it.

1807
01:31:43.520 --> 01:31:46.520
Turned out, my gumbo recipe went viral. So I said, well,

1808
01:31:46.560 --> 01:31:48.520
I'm just going to keep cooking from there. And then

1809
01:31:48.520 --> 01:31:50.600
one day I chopped those onions with my right hand

1810
01:31:50.640 --> 01:31:53.600
and I said pai ya, and I said, don't mess

1811
01:31:53.640 --> 01:31:56.119
with the cage and ninja, and then this whole brand

1812
01:31:56.159 --> 01:31:56.560
was born.

1813
01:31:57.079 --> 01:31:59.760
I love it, the cage and ninja and you mentioned

1814
01:31:59.760 --> 01:32:03.119
all so that you know started, you know, going back

1815
01:32:03.159 --> 01:32:05.199
to the kitchen days with your mom, right.

1816
01:32:07.880 --> 01:32:08.279
Yeah.

1817
01:32:08.119 --> 01:32:11.880
You know, look, in my family, it was probably traditional

1818
01:32:11.880 --> 01:32:14.439
Cajun family in the sense that if you have a

1819
01:32:14.439 --> 01:32:16.960
mom that cooks, it's very hard to get anything out

1820
01:32:16.960 --> 01:32:17.199
of her.

1821
01:32:17.359 --> 01:32:18.239
She's gonna tell you I.

1822
01:32:18.279 --> 01:32:19.520
Do a little bit of this, I'll do a little

1823
01:32:19.520 --> 01:32:22.399
bit of that, even to the point where like, well,

1824
01:32:22.520 --> 01:32:23.920
teach me how to do it, and she says, I'm

1825
01:32:23.960 --> 01:32:25.560
just going to bring it to the house, you know.

1826
01:32:25.680 --> 01:32:28.600
So there was definitely the love of food in my home.

1827
01:32:28.840 --> 01:32:30.279
But it was always hard to learn.

1828
01:32:30.359 --> 01:32:33.039
But through trial and error I got it done well exactly.

1829
01:32:33.119 --> 01:32:36.079
And the thing is about mothers, you know. They it's

1830
01:32:36.119 --> 01:32:38.880
what's in their hand. Just put a handful of this. Well, no,

1831
01:32:39.000 --> 01:32:41.279
I can I get a measuring cup. I'm gonna get

1832
01:32:41.279 --> 01:32:43.720
what's in your hand. I'm gonna put a cup and

1833
01:32:43.840 --> 01:32:45.039
try to figure it out. Right.

1834
01:32:47.239 --> 01:32:48.600
Oh, you're absolutely right.

1835
01:32:48.840 --> 01:32:53.600
Yeah, been there and gone through that exercise again, Chef

1836
01:32:53.640 --> 01:32:59.199
remind everybody and we're excited about Gumbo Day. This is

1837
01:32:59.239 --> 01:33:02.880
the event of events National Gumbo Day, which is coming.

1838
01:33:02.680 --> 01:33:07.520
Up on October twelfth.

1839
01:33:08.399 --> 01:33:13.640
October the twelfth, and he is the Cajun ninja and

1840
01:33:13.800 --> 01:33:19.159
cookbook author. Chef Jason Duran has been with us and

1841
01:33:19.640 --> 01:33:24.000
just to wrap things up again, just remind everybody why

1842
01:33:24.119 --> 01:33:26.079
gumbo is so dog gone special.

1843
01:33:28.479 --> 01:33:30.279
Oh you know what, man, my room's burning here.

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01:33:30.319 --> 01:33:32.960
Look, make sure y'all go to explore Louisiana dot com

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1847
01:33:37.000 --> 01:33:40.479
Well, pai ya and goodbye and good good cooking there. Chef.

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I appreciate you, thank you, thank you.

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Hey, we're back with you. Bill Martinez here. Great to

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have you with us, sharing a part of your day.

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For more info on the show, check it out Bill

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Martinez Live dot com. Craig Rucker is with us, the

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c FAX founder and president and mister Craig. How are

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we doing doing great?

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Bill, thanks for having me on your program today.

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Well, always, great to have you here. Let's get an

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update on our transpot department taking more wind out of

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offshore wind. Huh that's a big headline today.

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Oh yeah, well it was today. They're doing just a

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lot of good things. One of the things they did

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with taking the wind out of offshore wind is This

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goes back a little over a week ago when the

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Transportation Department basically took out about another I think it

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01:38:32.960 --> 01:38:38.039
was seven to eight billion dollars out of offshore win moneies.

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01:38:38.520 --> 01:38:41.520
This is largely going to ports. A lot of these

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ports that supported offshore wind did so because they received

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01:38:45.199 --> 01:38:48.359
monies to be able to get cranes.

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To upgrade their port facilities.

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It was kind of a bone that the administration, the

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Biden administration put out there to get them to accept

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01:38:57.119 --> 01:38:58.479
offshore win more readily.

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Their business.

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Well, that's been cut down, and the biggest losers, of

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course are the ones in California. Humboldt Wind facility out there,

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01:39:08.880 --> 01:39:12.079
which was has a really cockamamy skien to put offshore

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wind that floats. It's not even anchored in the ground.

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They have these huge turbines that are floating in the water.

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It's never really been put in operation anywhere in the world.

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It's an experimental technology. They're still moving forward with it

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at the moment in California, but anyway, the money that

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they'll need for the port to put these things in

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operations gone. I know the one in Virginia that I'm

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01:39:33.000 --> 01:39:35.319
working on, and I'm suing also got defunded.

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01:39:35.319 --> 01:39:37.520
I think it's about thirty forty million dollars.

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01:39:37.560 --> 01:39:42.359
So the Trump administration is continuing to do some good

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things to clog up the wheels on offshore wind.

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Well, yes, that's good news. Now I'm thinking in terms

1960
01:39:48.439 --> 01:39:52.920
of the ports themselves and any need for infrastructure, will

1961
01:39:52.960 --> 01:39:57.520
any of that money be reassigned for real, legitimate purposes,

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01:39:57.960 --> 01:40:01.880
not for manipulation that the Bide administration is operated on.

1963
01:40:02.199 --> 01:40:06.520
It seems like everything And then this is just my

1964
01:40:06.640 --> 01:40:09.680
deduction as I analyze what's going on. In fact, I

1965
01:40:09.720 --> 01:40:12.760
was talking with another expert here recently. I said, we're

1966
01:40:12.800 --> 01:40:16.600
thirty seven trillion dollars in debt. How much of that

1967
01:40:16.760 --> 01:40:19.760
money can be assigned to vote getting.

1968
01:40:21.520 --> 01:40:24.760
Now that's a good question, and I think that, you know,

1969
01:40:25.319 --> 01:40:28.039
deserves an investigation because we know an awful lot of

1970
01:40:28.079 --> 01:40:30.680
it has and we've seen that with the EPA, for example,

1971
01:40:31.920 --> 01:40:34.920
I think it was twenty billion dollars was being given

1972
01:40:34.960 --> 01:40:38.439
out to green groups that right in the closing days

1973
01:40:38.439 --> 01:40:40.960
of the Biden administration, And a lot of these green

1974
01:40:41.000 --> 01:40:43.840
groups didn't even exist except for six months prior to

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01:40:43.880 --> 01:40:46.560
the end of the Biden term. They didn't even have

1976
01:40:46.680 --> 01:40:49.079
websites and someone's going to Stacey eight.

1977
01:40:49.239 --> 01:40:52.079
Brooks exactly two billion dollars to her and she only

1978
01:40:52.079 --> 01:40:54.079
had a I mean, can you imagine. I mean, she

1979
01:40:54.119 --> 01:40:56.840
has maybe one hundred dollars in her account. All of

1980
01:40:56.880 --> 01:40:59.920
a sudden, she gets two billion to deal with. I mean,

1981
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I'm not even sure she could handle all that because

1982
01:41:02.720 --> 01:41:06.640
FDA only guarantees what a couple hundred thousand or something.

1983
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I don't know how she would secure that all that money,

1984
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but still ridiculous.

1985
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Yeah, And to your question, I think that the moneies

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are going to be respent to upgrade the ports in

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more lasting and long term things that could actually help

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01:41:21.079 --> 01:41:24.439
the ports, as opposed to make them staging grounds for

1989
01:41:24.880 --> 01:41:29.199
offshore wind that doesn't even really benefit the economy. He's

1990
01:41:29.239 --> 01:41:32.520
also done another great thing this week. On October sixth,

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01:41:32.800 --> 01:41:36.640
the Trump administration announced a new road up in Ambler

1992
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Up in the Alaska. This has been a controversy since

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01:41:41.199 --> 01:41:44.319
it was first permitted under Biden, and then Biden shut

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01:41:44.359 --> 01:41:46.960
it down again in twenty twenty four. This is a

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01:41:47.000 --> 01:41:51.800
remote area of Alaska that is rich in copper or zinc,

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01:41:51.920 --> 01:41:53.800
all the things that you would think the Greens would

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01:41:53.800 --> 01:41:56.720
be in favor of because they're necessary for renewable energy.

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01:41:56.760 --> 01:42:00.720
Of course they have other industrial uses, but they said,

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you know, would impact the caribou. It's in a pristine

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part of wilderness. It's absolutely in the middle of nowhere.

2001
01:42:06.560 --> 01:42:07.520
Well, it would.

2002
01:42:07.359 --> 01:42:11.399
Create four thousand jobs, largely for Native Americans, and it

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01:42:11.439 --> 01:42:16.279
should go in and Trump overrid Biden's stoppage of that.

2004
01:42:16.560 --> 01:42:18.680
And it looks like that road's going to go forward.

2005
01:42:18.760 --> 01:42:22.640
We'll see a major minding effort to get America's binding

2006
01:42:22.800 --> 01:42:26.199
back in operation because it's been decimated by the green

2007
01:42:26.239 --> 01:42:28.600
movement over the last twenty thirty years.

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01:42:28.920 --> 01:42:33.800
So did we get an updated and proper environmental report

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on that, you know, that supports this decision by Donald Trump,

2010
01:42:38.560 --> 01:42:42.039
so you know, to you know, offset the negativity and

2011
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you know the headwinds that will come surely from the left,

2012
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no doubt.

2013
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Yes, As a matter of fact, it actually, I believe

2014
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had a solid environmental impact statement that was rejected by

2015
01:42:52.279 --> 01:42:56.039
the bond by the Biden team, So it already had

2016
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gotten initially its permits because it went through that lengthy process.

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And then I think too.

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And that's in that lengthy process. I'm sorry to interrupt

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01:43:04.399 --> 01:43:06.920
you because I want our audience to understand this is

2020
01:43:07.239 --> 01:43:11.079
you know, these are the Democrats, whether it's Obama or Biden.

2021
01:43:11.800 --> 01:43:13.920
You know they all think this way. It's all delayed.

2022
01:43:14.079 --> 01:43:16.760
It just takes so much time. I mean, this could

2023
01:43:16.760 --> 01:43:20.199
be years involved to go through all the permitting before

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01:43:20.239 --> 01:43:23.439
you actually get to it. And then here, right before

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01:43:23.880 --> 01:43:27.000
the birth and the utilization of everything and all your

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01:43:27.000 --> 01:43:31.159
hard work, the Biden administration comes in with their democratic,

2027
01:43:31.279 --> 01:43:34.399
no nonsense policies and they pull the plug on the thing.

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01:43:34.720 --> 01:43:37.600
How frustrating. I just got to think for these businessmen

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01:43:37.640 --> 01:43:39.479
and these investors, well.

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You're exactly right and in fact continuing to do business

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01:43:42.319 --> 01:43:44.159
if they were to open those minds and not have

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01:43:44.279 --> 01:43:46.720
those roads. The way you get the oars out of

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01:43:46.760 --> 01:43:49.439
there is often to wait until everything freezes, so you're

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01:43:49.479 --> 01:43:53.960
taking these heavy trucks over frozen rivers o't and you know,

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01:43:54.079 --> 01:43:57.319
in dangerous conditions in order to haul it miles. I mean,

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01:43:57.359 --> 01:44:00.399
it's much safer to have a road that's actually been vetted.

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01:44:01.079 --> 01:44:03.239
They have the right of ways done, and they figured

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01:44:03.239 --> 01:44:05.319
out how to do it in the most environmentally sound

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01:44:05.319 --> 01:44:09.119
way as opposed to constricting any development up there so

2040
01:44:09.159 --> 01:44:12.039
that it has to kind of be sloshed through the

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01:44:12.079 --> 01:44:16.079
woods or flown in little hoppers, which is you know,

2042
01:44:16.159 --> 01:44:18.960
how much for those worried about greenhouse gas emissions, how

2043
01:44:19.039 --> 01:44:21.720
much would that be to bring all the critical ores

2044
01:44:21.720 --> 01:44:25.720
and materials through by plane. So again, this is just

2045
01:44:25.760 --> 01:44:28.279
a common sense thing. It's encouraging to see the Trump

2046
01:44:28.279 --> 01:44:32.840
administration continue to be pro energy and pro mineral development

2047
01:44:33.000 --> 01:44:34.600
and get America back on its feet.

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01:44:35.159 --> 01:44:37.800
We have no choice, do we. I mean where we

2049
01:44:37.840 --> 01:44:42.760
are right now in relationship to China and other countries

2050
01:44:42.800 --> 01:44:45.760
that want to replace America. I mean, we have got

2051
01:44:45.800 --> 01:44:51.279
to maintain our leadership position or we're going to be

2052
01:44:51.319 --> 01:44:52.199
done in, aren't we?

2053
01:44:53.239 --> 01:44:53.760
No question?

2054
01:44:53.840 --> 01:44:56.880
And what's really remarkable all these greens that's to talk

2055
01:44:56.920 --> 01:45:01.520
about climate change, and well, China, which is pretty much

2056
01:45:01.560 --> 01:45:04.560
exempt from the Paris Accords and climate change, is going

2057
01:45:04.600 --> 01:45:08.199
full board with its binding out ours using leager slave labor,

2058
01:45:08.319 --> 01:45:12.159
or they're getting cobalt in Africa using children. They're investing

2059
01:45:12.279 --> 01:45:14.680
heavily in these critical elements. They want to get a

2060
01:45:14.760 --> 01:45:17.800
quarter on the market so that when all these renewable

2061
01:45:17.800 --> 01:45:21.119
technologies in the world goes green, they're the ones profiting.

2062
01:45:21.399 --> 01:45:23.000
Will they themselves, of course don't.

2063
01:45:22.840 --> 01:45:25.840
Really use it in any great extent, but they will

2064
01:45:25.840 --> 01:45:28.199
sell us the products in which to gut our own

2065
01:45:28.319 --> 01:45:30.680
energy and gut our own energy infrastructure.

2066
01:45:30.720 --> 01:45:34.279
So it's really kind of infuriating. But I think Trump

2067
01:45:34.359 --> 01:45:35.199
is onto them.

2068
01:45:35.119 --> 01:45:37.760
And there's some things to be encouraged about with some

2069
01:45:37.840 --> 01:45:39.520
of the things that are coming out right now.

2070
01:45:39.840 --> 01:45:43.199
Yeah. And the thing unfortunately, and we're realizing this truth

2071
01:45:43.239 --> 01:45:45.399
as well, and something we've been reporting on a number

2072
01:45:45.399 --> 01:45:50.119
of years, and that is that you know, the CCP

2073
01:45:50.760 --> 01:45:55.399
has captured people within our government, including a former vice

2074
01:45:55.439 --> 01:46:00.079
president and former president, has captured them in order to

2075
01:46:00.079 --> 01:46:02.800
do their bidding at the expense of the American people.

2076
01:46:03.119 --> 01:46:06.279
So the idea that America first, you know, comes into play.

2077
01:46:06.680 --> 01:46:09.359
There is a real reason why we must think in

2078
01:46:09.439 --> 01:46:12.359
terms of America first, because for a long time, for

2079
01:46:12.439 --> 01:46:15.840
decades now, it hasn't been America first. And here we are,

2080
01:46:15.960 --> 01:46:19.279
I mean, we're seeing our assets slipping through our fingers.

2081
01:46:19.520 --> 01:46:21.840
And then what's going to happen? I mean, people are

2082
01:46:21.840 --> 01:46:24.560
worried about social security and all these other things, but

2083
01:46:24.600 --> 01:46:28.239
you know, we've got bigger worries than that, I believe.

2084
01:46:28.760 --> 01:46:29.319
No question.

2085
01:46:29.439 --> 01:46:31.039
And as a matter of fact, we at Sea fact

2086
01:46:31.560 --> 01:46:35.000
are about to start a study looking into some of

2087
01:46:35.039 --> 01:46:39.279
the foreign funding of our green cause. And people would say,

2088
01:46:39.319 --> 01:46:42.439
is that because the Chinese and even the Russians are

2089
01:46:42.560 --> 01:46:45.680
very interested in the environment and they care about funding

2090
01:46:45.960 --> 01:46:48.039
these green groups Because no, it has nothing to do

2091
01:46:48.119 --> 01:46:51.880
with that, it's their national security. They're funding them because

2092
01:46:51.880 --> 01:46:55.039
they know the greens will stop our energy infrastructure from

2093
01:46:55.079 --> 01:46:58.720
being developed, that exactly, stop our mining. And they could

2094
01:46:58.760 --> 01:47:00.840
care a lot. If they cared about the environment. You

2095
01:47:00.840 --> 01:47:04.319
wouldn't see the choking cities in China that are you know,

2096
01:47:04.359 --> 01:47:06.159
you got to wear a mask to try to survive

2097
01:47:06.239 --> 01:47:08.439
the air pollution in the area. You wouldn't be seeing

2098
01:47:08.479 --> 01:47:12.000
the pools of toxic lakes that are forming all over

2099
01:47:12.039 --> 01:47:15.199
their country. They could care less about the environment. They're

2100
01:47:15.239 --> 01:47:19.439
funding it to stop American development, America energy development and

2101
01:47:19.520 --> 01:47:23.640
infrastructure from being realized, and they're using the greens in

2102
01:47:23.640 --> 01:47:26.479
a strategic way to try to hurt our nation.

2103
01:47:27.520 --> 01:47:30.520
Yeah, and the thing is that they underestimate is the

2104
01:47:30.560 --> 01:47:36.399
heart and soul of America, and that is that we

2105
01:47:36.399 --> 01:47:39.560
will find a way. We're innovative and when given you know,

2106
01:47:39.640 --> 01:47:44.560
the liberty to do so, will innovate, will adapt, you know,

2107
01:47:44.840 --> 01:47:47.279
and that has been the history of this country. But

2108
01:47:47.319 --> 01:47:49.840
we need to get these restricts out of the way.

2109
01:47:49.880 --> 01:47:52.359
And that's why we're grateful for what Donald Trump is doing.

2110
01:47:52.680 --> 01:47:54.920
And I just pray that the rest of America is

2111
01:47:55.039 --> 01:47:57.359
kind of you know, catching on here and not listening

2112
01:47:57.399 --> 01:48:01.479
to the mainstream media or some of these other antithical

2113
01:48:01.560 --> 01:48:05.640
agents that want to, you know, knock us down because

2114
01:48:05.640 --> 01:48:08.640
they hate Donald Trump. But they can't even pause for

2115
01:48:08.640 --> 01:48:10.840
a second and say, Okay, I get it. And everybody

2116
01:48:10.840 --> 01:48:13.159
has a personality, and you know, I don't have one

2117
01:48:13.199 --> 01:48:15.880
hundred percent of the people liking my personality. I get that.

2118
01:48:16.319 --> 01:48:18.760
So but still take a look at the product. What

2119
01:48:18.800 --> 01:48:19.880
are we producing here?

2120
01:48:19.960 --> 01:48:24.039
Right? Yeah? Oh, I think everybody likes your personality. They're

2121
01:48:24.079 --> 01:48:26.760
just a warm peddy bear here.

2122
01:48:26.880 --> 01:48:27.319
So here.

2123
01:48:28.279 --> 01:48:31.039
But as far as Donald Trump goes, I think, you know,

2124
01:48:31.199 --> 01:48:33.479
I think he's leading us on the right track. I'm

2125
01:48:33.600 --> 01:48:36.640
very encouraged by the direction we're going. I do think

2126
01:48:36.680 --> 01:48:38.920
another major issue that I hope that he gets to

2127
01:48:39.000 --> 01:48:41.760
address is just the vast sums of our wealth that's

2128
01:48:41.760 --> 01:48:45.039
being locked up by the federal government, the Bureau of

2129
01:48:45.159 --> 01:48:48.640
Land Management, Department of Interior. You look at Alaska diss

2130
01:48:48.640 --> 01:48:52.760
Ambler Road. Oh yeah, tremendous sums of our land is

2131
01:48:52.880 --> 01:48:55.680
locked up and not able to be developed, not because

2132
01:48:55.720 --> 01:48:57.000
Alaska doesn't own it.

2133
01:48:57.039 --> 01:49:00.039
So by the federal government, you have almost.

2134
01:49:00.000 --> 01:49:04.439
Twenty percent of Nevada be locked up because you know,

2135
01:49:04.479 --> 01:49:09.039
and this is a revenue that could be generated for schools,

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police enforcement, and other things. We need to look very

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closely at just how much the federal government owns and

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return that land to the states and.

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To the people the way it was supposed to always be.

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But everything west of the Mississippi, you know, the government

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came in and just you know, took it all. I

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mean they just basically, you know, would would hold on

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to whatever they could. And I mean it's an ordinary amount.

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I mean, in Alaska alone, what is it, eighty percent

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roughly is still owned by the government.

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Don't have the exact figure, but I believe it is

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somewhere above fifty percent.

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Yes, but and I do know that in many states

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it is above fifties percent in the Western states. And

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of course when you have the federal government managing it,

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they set the rules for how much can be raised

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if any energy production can come into play. This is

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and of course they don't take care of it. You

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don't see the prescribed burns, you see the massive loss

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of our forest lands because they buy into this green

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ecology which just says let nature take its course, and

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we lose vast swaths of our outdoors to that so

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wild catastrophic wildfire.

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So from my perspective, I think the time is come.

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We need to return the land. Because of course, that's

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what makes America great. It's our already rights, our free

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market system, our ability to speak and worship as we

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want to. But private property and land ownership is fundamental

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to our freedom.

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And it's always better handled at the local level, isn't

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it always?

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I mean, who knows better how to manage a forest

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that's in your near your town? You or somebody in Washington,

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d C.

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Was it?

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I know exactly. It's so absurd, It's it's just it's

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so obvious. We just cannot continue to kick against the

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goads here, and thank god, common sense is coming back

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to America. Craig Rocker, the President, founder Committee for Constructive Tomorrow.

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Craig is always appreciate the time and report take care.

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Thanks Bill, you got it.

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