Oct. 2, 2025
The Bill Martinez Show 10 02 25
The Bill Martinez Show 10 02 25
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Yeah, Okay, let's do it.
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Bill Martinez Live a program about current events, our culture,
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our values, our politics, and our future.
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And now Bill Martinez.
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Welcome Morning in America. Six minutes half coffee art. Bill
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Martinez here with Mike O'Neill from Landmark Legal. Hey, Mike,
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how you doing.
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I'm good Bill, Good to be with you.
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Well, the government is shut down could be a good thing.
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I guess, all things considered, it's going to be interesting
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to see if Trump is really willing to push the
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nuclear bomb, you know, hit that nuclear button and get
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rid of some of these this excess weight in the government.
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The Democrats have really shot themselves in the foot potentially here,
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and and maybe Trump should let them feel the pain
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in their foot.
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We'll see, I mean, we'll see about that. You never
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you never clear about the political fallout here, I mean
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about how these come down. Traditionally, you know, it's the
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president who a lot of times carries the blame whenever
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we have these periodic shutdowns. But a couple of things
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to keep in mind about this. Number one is the
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big beautiful Bill funded a lot of the priorities for
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Donald Trump's agenda, so that money's there, so he doesn't
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necessarily have to worry about anything. Any of the promises
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he's made to the American people I think are going
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to be covered. Certainly, Americans are still going to get
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their entitlement checks, the Medicare checks, the Medicaid, the Medicare, Medicaid,
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Social Security, those are all going on. The Defense Department
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is still operating. So the necessities, the core necessities, core
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function of government obviously aren't going to grind to a halt.
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What's going to happen, of course, is you're seeing this
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with a lot has been made about the what the
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one hundred thousand federal employees being terminated or something of
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that numb you're seeing this.
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Look at Yeah, it could be as I've heard any
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word from one hundred to three hundred thousand, right.
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Well, keep in mind a lot of that is that
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a lot of the individuals who took the buy out
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at the beginning of the term that kicked in their
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date of last date of employment was I think September
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thirtieth or October first. That was already preordained. That wasn't
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something that has happened in the past couple of weeks.
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That was just something of course, of course, the Union
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is going to use those numbers, right of course, tell that, yeah.
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You're you're gonna get this, and so you're gonna get
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that again. Whether it's always interesting to meet with the
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government shut shutdowns, and again we talked about government shutdowns.
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We're talking about you know a lot of these alphabet
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soup agencies in Washington, DC, these bureaucracies ceasing to function
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for a period of time until they come back to work.
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How and I think the great Russian Lumba had talked
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about this before.
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How people's lives still go on.
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You know, things don't end catastrophically for our country when
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we have these quote unquote government shutdowns because Congress hasn't
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hasn't funded, there's been a work you know, there there's
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a an ability to make any compromise in Congress, and
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so that there's no money that goes forward. So but
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but again life goes on for our country, and we're
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going to see our core function, the core functions of
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government continue to continue to operate. People are gonna still
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get the services that they require a function. So we'll
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see I think politically probably this this this this again,
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I'm preordained to say this this way's in favor of Trump.
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I think he saw this coming. His director of omb
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has seen this coming. And I think they're going to
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take advantage of this opportunity and possibly cut a lot
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of positions and say, hey, look, we survived thirty days
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without this, what makes you think we can't survive three
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years without this position.
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So we'll see the fallout of it. I think I
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think this is going to weigh in favor of Trump.
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Well, I was surprised, Michael that the unions were quick
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to act before there was even a shutdown. The unions
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were already going to the courts, you know, which is
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interesting because usually you have to demonstrate injury before you
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can appeal to the court. Right, but absolutely the way
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politics works. But I get that. So here they are
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there to the ready. But you know, again, when you
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look at it in the context of all the excess
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weight that the government has been carried, thirty seven trillion
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dollars in debt, the Doze documentation, excess weights and everything
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that needed to be trimmed down, you know, it may
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not be the way Elon miss Musk had envisioned it,
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but it may be as a result of the Democrats
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as I said, shooting themselves in the foot.
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Absolutely, And I don't know it's funny because we live
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and I lived just outside Washington, d C. Outside the Boatway,
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but we live certainly in this area where I've been
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born and not born but raised in and kind of
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meshed in over these these many decades of my life.
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People in Washington, d C.
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And the metropolitan area the DMV live in a bubble.
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And I saw a stat the average federal worker salaries
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ninety thousand dollars plus benefits. So you're talking about ninety
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thousand dollars and then where your average private sector non
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federal workers around sixty thousand dollars. And the federal benefits
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are amazing. You see, you see the days off, you
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see the user lose. There's all these terms that federal
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employees have. And I don't think that I think the
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Democrats might have misjudged it. I don't think the American
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people as a whole, the other three hundred and fifty
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million Americans who actually have to live.
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In the in the real world, real world outside.
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The DMV, the simple I don't think there's a lot
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of sympathy for your average federal worker.
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Of course, around here. You know, I could be in
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trouble for saying that.
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Where I am be careful, but I don't think that
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your normal American is going to say, oh, I'm gonna
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I'm going to sympathize with the federal worker who's been
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making ninety thousand dollars a year, working four days a week,
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taking every taking four day weekends, has all these great benefits,
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essentially has a job for life, doesn't have to worry
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about it.
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You know, I think the general.
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Population and the political countenance is going to be, hey,
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welcome to the world.
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Federal Yeah, put on a helmet exactly. Well, And I
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don't want to sound like you. I mean, I mean
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in terms like you. I mean you and I agree,
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we don't want to be discompassionate. I mean, these are people,
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there's lives, there's there's a lot of stories in between.
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I mean, you already know that a lot of these
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government employees, because they're working part time getting paid full
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time money, they have gig jobs and so they're they're
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they're going to rely a little bit more on their
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gig job until they get reinstated and back pay and
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you know, or whatever happens.
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Maybe that won't happen that you know, And it's funny,
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that's always what happens, right is you get laid you
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don't get laid off, you get a vacation, thirty whatever.
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However, many days.
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It's kind of unpaid but eventually paid.
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But then you get paid, then you get then they
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always backfill it, as you say, so, maybe that's not
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the case here. Again, My always my take is is
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I'm I work for an organization, a non profit organization, Landmark,
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and I've never been guaranteed a job. I've never had
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the kind of job security that federal workforce has.
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And I always.
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Say, hey, welcome to the world that the rest of
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America lives in, where you know, if you can come
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in one day and guess what, there's a riff and hey,
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you know the company or your boss or whomever decided that,
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you know, we needed to cut ten percent of costs
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and you're part of that ten percent.
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Well, you know, when you work for the government.
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Again, as I said, I've been here for fifty years,
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I understand they never even it, never even enters into
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their calculus, and it just becomes how could.
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This e or happen?
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How can you're like Hey, guys, welcome to the real world.
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This is what every other American has to deal with
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every day of their lives.
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See, this is this is the bad thing about unions
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because they create an environment that's delusional and uh, you know,
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they want to keep everything the same. You know, you know,
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it breeds mediocrity because you can't stand out. You got
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to stay even with everybody else. Everybody gets paid and
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everybody gets the same promotions, all this kind of stuff
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that's part of you know, part of belonging to a union.
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And the fact that the unions couldn't make it in
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the in the public sector, so then they go into government, right,
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and you know, so they go into government, and look
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what happened. I mean, at one point, you know, you know,
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as far as the public was concerned and unions, it
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was about thirty thirty five percent of the workforce. Now
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it's probably what single digits less than ten percent, right,
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And so all that force and energy now went into government,
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and man, they're you know, they're dug in deep and uh,
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you know, with all the benefits. I mean we talk
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about benefits. I mean there's benefits on top of benefits,
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you know, trying to fire somebody for being incompetent, and
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you know, any any kind of normal job experience that
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you and I have been dealing with all our lives,
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you know, based on merit and effort and having to
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measure yourself, you know, based on the standards of the marketplace,
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right exactly, all that it all comes into play and
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your job security hangs in the balance. But not not
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when you're a government employee. I mean, mediocrity seems to
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be the older of the day.
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Yeah, and I think again you touched on the beginning
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of what you were saying. I want to give a
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little bit of good faith. I think a lot of
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the people here, you know, want to work, want to
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want to help, want to be good, want to do
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a good job. But again, you're right, the the entitled
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mindset is endemic, and I think that's just a function
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of it. And it's nothing personal. It's just and you
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live in this environment where you get a job and
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then you move up the GS ladder. You know, you're
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just twelve, thirteen, fourteen, et cetera, and you move at
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up it and if you're not good at your job,
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you get moved to someplace else, and then you're not
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good at your job there for a few more years,
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and then you move us someplace else and et cetera,
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and then.
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You it's the Peter principle in play here. We've got
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