Sept. 25, 2025

The Bill Martinez Show 09 25 25

The Bill Martinez Show 09 25 25
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The Bill Martinez Show 09 25 25
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Are you ready?

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Yeah, Okay, let's do an Ill Martinez Live, a program

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about current events, our culture, our values, our politics, and

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our future.

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And now Bill Martinez.

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Well, well, good morning to him. Bill Martinez here along

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with Michael Neil from Lenmark Legal. Hey, Mike, good morning.

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How are you.

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It's good to be with you. Bill, Good morning. Great.

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Well, we've got a lot going on when it comes

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to immigration, another shooting and an ice facility. Gavin Newsom

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in California wants you know, all the ice officers on

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mass You know, of course, it's not gonna muster, as

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you know, I mean, that's just all for show and

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it's no go there at all. But you know, it's

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already a very difficult job for ice officials to do.

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I mean, you've already got a tax on ice officers

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increase what over one thousand percent? I mean, and we've

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already I think removed your report I was reading was

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over a million employees out of the workforce, illegal employees

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to o the workforce. That's moving in the right direction.

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But we've got a long ways to go here yet, Mike, Yeah.

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Long ways to go.

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I mean, let's start with the most ridiculous and then

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we can work our way back. Obviously, Gavin Knew some

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that's performance art. I think he's just trying to he's

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trying to mimic. He's a poor imitation of Donald Trump.

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He decides that he's going to if he's going to

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hold these events, or if he's going to if he's

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going to tweet things or say things that he desires

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to get some sort of reaction from folks and get

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people talking about him. I think he's holding to the

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mantra that no press is bad press, even when he

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says dumb things. He thinks by doing that, he's going

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to elevate himself ahead of the rest of the pack. Clearly,

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he's running for president in twenty twenty eight.

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Good luck, I guess.

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I don't know, but just absolutely if the California legislature

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or if Gavin Newsoon wants to do some sort of

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executive action trying to prohibit ICE agents from wearing masks,

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that good absolutely no chance would that ever hold up

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kind of court. Clearly, these the need, the necessity for

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these individuals who are executing these high risk warrants, these

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high risk law enforcement activities, and who have necessary who

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have a cognizant threat upon them as individuals and their families.

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I mean, if you're engaging in with a narco terrorist

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and you're engaging in drug cartel activities and executing high

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risk police activities, these are guys.

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You're the criminals that you're apprehending. Are these are no

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joke guys? I mean exactly. I don't have a lot

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of context for it.

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There's a movie, though, and I kind of I always

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kind of try to encapsulate this stuff in movies. There's

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a movie I remember watching and it's kind of an

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underrated one. It's called End of Watch. And there's a

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guy named Jake Jayllenhall who's the actor, and and he's

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he's an LAPD cop, right, he's a beat cop, and

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he's driving through Los Angeles. And this is kind of

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an interesting and I encourage some people to read it

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from watching the movie because it really gives you a good,

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at least from my perspective, a good impression of what

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an everyday life of a cop in Los Angeles and

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these high risk neighborhood is going through. And there's this

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scene where they stumble across a drug house or a

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house with set with human trafficking, and there's it's it's

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essentially there's dozens of these uh human of these individuals

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who have been human trafficked in a basement and they

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stumble upon it, and then all of a sudden, these

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other guys come in. Federal agents come swooping in, right

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and they're all wearing the masks and they're The threat

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is you don't know what you're what you've gotten into.

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And then later on throughout the movie plays out that

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these guys have tangled with these vicious drug cartels.

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So if that's your opponent and those are the.

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People you're you're dealing with, you have to protect your

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identity otherwise these guys are gonna come after your family.

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So anyway, legality, there's no chances any quartal ever up

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all this performance are but it is indicative of the

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lunacy of the left that they have to talk about

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this sort of thing to get clicks and get attention.

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Right. Well, and the thing is it's not solving any problems.

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It's solved for political purpose. Like you say, performance art

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less than the quality of the art of unter Biden.

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We can put it probably in that classification as well.

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It's about as much value as you can get out

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of it. I mean, this is certainly not helping the cause,

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especially when the dangers remain here. American citizens are still

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being killed by illegal immigrants. Trump got a mandate from

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the voter saying get them out of here, and he's

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doing the best he can. But it's you know, he's

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dealing with the law fair you know, from activist judges

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and other immigrant attorneys that are doing everything they can

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to get in the way and resist what the American

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voter wants. But the American voter needs to understand that

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this is a long term fight. I mean, you can't

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allow upwards of twenty million illegal illegal immigrants on top

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of what we already had before then probably another twenty

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twenty five million, you know, good guests there either way.

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So you're talking, you know, maybe around fifty million illegal limit,

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How are you going to vacate You can't even you know,

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take care of the latest trunch, you know, And so

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this is an ongoing and ongoing battle. But again the

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voter must understand that, you know, if you see the

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future of this country, you know, in terms of you know,

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law and order, then we've got to clear this out

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and it's going to take some time, and so this

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isn't just oh, one voting cycle. And I've done my

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job right.

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Right, and I encourage everybody. Tom Homan was on Bill

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mahersh show. God bless him, yeah, over.

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The weekend, and I mean, can you have a better

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guy who's out there talking about this stuff than than

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the I don't know what his official is he is

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he director of I don't know, is he director of

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vice or is he?

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I know he's in charge of the immigration deport Well.

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I just I conveniently call him the really official borders are.

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Right exactly, borders are That's it, That's exactly. That's kind

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of what I was going to say. I'm loath to

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use the term borders are, but I think that's what

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he was that he I think that's.

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What he position is.

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But can you have a better person who's talking about

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these issues and encapsulating it? And he goes again and

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what God bless him. He goes right to people who

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are going to be antagonistic. And what's amazing about Homan

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is he never hesitates to go right into the adversarial

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situations where he's going to bring truth to the individuals

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and speak harsh truth to people. And in this interview

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I encourage you. I don't know if you've seen it

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or if you're listening, son, but it's worth it's worth watching.

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It's only like a I don't know, eight or ten

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minute spot, but what he says, and can you know,

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Mark peppers him with all the typical questions you know

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anything Haman hasn't already heard that, Oh, you're rounding up

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people who are law abiding, people who have been there back,

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and then Homan just bounces back, Look, you're talking about

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sex traffickers, you're talking about drug dealers, you're talking about

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people who have no interest in following the laws of

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the United States. And so this it just and he

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actually won the crowd over and I always think it's great.

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I always like it when these guys go in our folks,

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go into these adversarial situations and end up winning the

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craft because.

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There's so reasonable.

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And then you get the Bill Maher audience applauding home

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and by the end of the interview and you're like, okay,

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well there you go.

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Who presented the more reasonable positions there?

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And even kind of Bill Maher to kind of concede

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like okay, yeah, you're making some sense, but yeah, exactly

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your point bility is well taken. Is that he that

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this is going to This isn't something that we can

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just solve.

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In eight months, right. I mean the numbers are good.

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I mean what's happening is obviously something in the right direction.

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But this is this is how you eat an elephant.

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This is you know, one bite at a time, and

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that that's where you have to start with what you

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can do and then you know, initially start with the

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emergency and then just continue to work and continue to

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work the problem.

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Mike. The thing that I see that appears to be

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underplayed is the involvement of the cartels. You know, it

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comes up once in a while, but in terms of

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its local involvement in all these areas, I mean, this

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is big money for the cartels, just in sex trafficking alone.

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Last year, I think they generated third team billion dollars

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in profits. Oh, America, be a bit good for the cartels,

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and so now this is getting disrupted, not to mention

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you know, ventanyl drug running and everything else. And you know,

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most people ignorantly think that the cartels are operating south

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of the border. No, they're in every state of the

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Union according to the FBI.

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Yeah, and that that just kind of when you're talking

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about the money, I mean you're talking billions, tens of

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billions of dollars and assets and power that the cartels.

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Have underlaw, also military equipment.

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That's that's where I'm going with this.

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Okay, Yeah, go ahead, underlie.

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The necessity to treat these organizations as foreign terrorist organizations

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and to utilize our military assets to combat them. I mean,

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I don't it's not fair for domestic law enforcement to

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have to try to utilize their resources to address this problem.

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And again I think I probably said on your show,

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these guys are the cartels represent a clear and present dagery.

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Remember the book Claire President to Tom Plants clear President

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danger right, and then the President in the movie, the

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President says these cartels represented Well they do.

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You know what, no doubt about it. I'll tell well,

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we got to go to a quick break. Let's pick

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it up on the other side. More for Mike O'Neil

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And we're back whether you Bill Martinez here along with

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Mike O'Neil from Landmark Legal. As you were saying, Mike

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before the break, no doubt these cartels Antifa, which the

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THAN finally said, hey, we're going to declare them as

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a terrorist organization. And you know, this list is growing,

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but it's clear and it's present, and it is dangerous.

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Absolutely. I mean, tens of thousands of Americans die every

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year from fent and all. We're talking sex trafficking, we're

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talking again, talking to these organizations. These criminal terrorist organizations

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took over apartment complexes, actually held I mean, if you

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want to boil it down, held territory in our country.

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I mean, if you have if you have an apartment complex,

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a neighborhood that is a no go zone because it's

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controlled by the cartel, that's a foreign terrorist organization holding

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American territory.

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So why not.

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My point is is clearly authorization, the president has the

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constitutional authority to utilize the military to address this issue. Again,

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ideally in my Mike's perfect world, in my perfect growth,

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I would like to see I think I probably said

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this to you, I'd like to see Congress have an

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authorization to use some military force for this, just so

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that the congres I'm not saying it's necessary for legal purposes.

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What I'm saying is that it would be good to

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see Congress speak. And again, this is in my long

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running theme of Congress actually doing some things for the

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good of the American people and getting off the sidelines saying, look,

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we recognize this again as a clear in present danger,

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as a threat to the American way of life, and

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we are speaking as one body, as the representatives of

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the people, to recognize this as such, and we are

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authorizing the president is executive capacity to utilize all all

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necessary force to address the problem. So I would like

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to see Congress authorize you some military force. I think

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it's an easy thing to do. I can't believe anybody

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be opposed to that, but hey, let's want to do it.

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Let them vote against it. I just don't see it.

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Well, yeah, the dams are just against everything, you know,

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short of breathing, you know, and then that's debatable because

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if you're anything associated with MAGA, then they don't want

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you breathing either. But yeah, the problem is is that

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it's called a sense of urgency. Mind, is that there

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has to be that sense of urgency because it is

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an emergency. Because the longer we put this off, I mean, look,

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what's happening. You're talking about no go zones in Texas, Minneapolis, Michigan. Uh,

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you know, we just turn a blind eye to it.

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And meanwhile we've get we get these immigrants who come

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in that are you know, they're operating in a way

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not to assimilate, but to hold on to their own

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values and their own culture. And uh. And here you've

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got a Congresswoman Rashida Tale yelling and screaming, saying, uh,

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you know, well you mf ors you know, Uh, Palestinians

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are here, now what do you think? And we're taken over? Yeah,

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they're not hiding I mean that, I mean, how is

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that not an insurrection?

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The audacity is the emboldened and audacity of it just

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shows the extent to which they've inculcated themselves into the

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power structure. Right if you're if you're not, if you

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don't feel confident in your position of power, you're not

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going to come out and say something like that. And certainly,

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and you saw a lot of Omar speaking like this,

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I represent the small interests rather than the American interests,

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et cetera. And believe and and and they have platforms.

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They're powerful voices in the in the Democrat, in the

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Democrat Party, which is astounding to me, but they are,

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and they're the they have microphones. And uh, there's again

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we're t you can you can't separate it, but you

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can also blend it all together. There's the drug cartels,

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we're talking about the illegal immigration. We're talking about the

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lack of the lack of actually will to assimilate into

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the American culture, into the American way of life. That's

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I think a distinct distinction from this from previous generations

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who have come to America, previous immigration Democrat generations. I

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think that they're taught that they put themselves, their country,

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their nationality, ahead of their American identity.

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That's dangerous.

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I don't think you're seeing it, particularly amongst Muslims. I

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don't think you're seeing an ability even subsequent generations. I

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think subsequent generation's lack of assimilation, right, I mean you

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you are in unwillingness to assimilate, and so more nationalism

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for their their home country rather than and acceptance into Americans.

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So all very dangerous things.

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What other interesting touch on I want to talk about

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real quickly is on what we're seeing with regards to visas,

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non immigrant visas. We're seeing a lot of discussion about

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that too. H one B visas as something that's been

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rampant with fraud for years. You have these groups that

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are specializing and obtaining H one B visas and are

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willing to commit fraud to obtain them. You're you're seeing

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regulatory workarounds to overrule the hard caps that Congress has

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put on this. It's a opt rule for example. And

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H four visa. There's a lot of work to be

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done with regards to H one B visas and awarding

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visas for work for four workers to.

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Come into America.

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This is all part of the of the bigger issue

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we're talking about here with with regards to immigration.

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See all these things compromise. You know, the principles of

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our country, the principles that protect the integrity of you know,

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positive immigration policy. And you know, whether it's these nngos

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or these other non comms, they could care less about

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American values and the freedom principles of our country. They

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don't care, you know. And unfortunately, we've had too many

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greedy people in positions of authority that have opened that

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door and allowed it to come in, and you know,

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they figure, Okay, hey, you know, another one hundred thousand here,

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another one hundred thousand there. I think it's interesting now

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that Trump wants to put a in a sense, doesn't

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he want to put a bounty or some sort of

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you know, ticket price for HB one visas?

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Yeah, And that's I'm a little bit unclear exactly what

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we're getting because we've had a couple of the administration

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has been a little bit inconsistent how it's reporting this.

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So I haven't seen what the official new regulations pertaining

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H one visas are. At one point we heard that

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it was going to be one hundred thousand dollars fee

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that was going to be attached to every one of them.

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Now you're saying it's a one time fee and it's

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only for new ones.

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Or new ones.

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Yes, I don't know, and I think this.

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Is inherent in the problem the competing interests here, and

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even I'll concede to you, I think Republicans conservatives have

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some interests aren't consistent in this. You have the business

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obviously wing in that the high high value tech wing,

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who is obviously has a vested interest in ensuring that

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they continue to the flow of cheap foreign labor and

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so versus the Hey, American workers, American tech workers need

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to have jobs, and we need to put we need

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to elevate the interests of American tech workers ahead of

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foreign tech workers. And if American tech companies wants to

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do business in America, they need to hire American workers

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first and and and utilize H one B VISA system

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as a supplement, not as a primary usage for their employees.

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And I think that's what you're seeing here. So there's

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competing interests at play within probably even probably again I

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don't have any insider information, but within the administration, I

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think you have you have different voices who are who

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are jockeying for for a position on this.

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Personally, I come.

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Down and obviously uh putting American workers first.

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And without a doubt, the need for H one BBSs

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to supplement.

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Well, look what happened. You think we would learn something

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from the Manhattan Project. I mean there's still a lot

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of questions things hidden about that. You know, we used

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a lot of non American citizens in that project. I

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mean it was a powerhouse project, and not everything stayed there,

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you know, and was was protected. I mean that information

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spread out and next thing, you know, you've got other

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countries that have nuclear capacity. And where did that come from?

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Yeah?

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Absolutely, And I think you see, I'm particularly sympathetic.

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To the younger generation of folks, the gen Z folks who.

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Are being put on the sideline and the inability if

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you see, like the top ten jobs toughest toughest degrees

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to find a job, computer engineering and computer science.

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Fall within that.

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For people like me, I'm like, oh my god, how

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can somebody with a computer science degree not be able

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to get a job, more computer engineering degree not be

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able to get a job in twenty twenty five?

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Well, guess what because of the importation of all these workers. Yeah, exactly.

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And then, of course what you're talking about is America's

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technological innovations. You worry about that that being outsourced to

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adversaries or even allies, India, China, wherever other countries are

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being able to appropriate American tech work. To this day,

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I will say the reason one of the Chinese military

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has been able to catch up and become a pure

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rival of the United States is because what happened in

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the nineteen nineties with Bill Clinton, when he has essentially

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an open door policy to sell American tech secrets to

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anybody who wanted to write a check to Bill Clinton

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or Hillary Clinton. So I subject I submit to you

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that the reason why the Chinese military is where they

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are today started in the nineteen nineties with Bill Clinton

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and some of his more crony associates and his ability

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to sell America down the river.

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Well, and that's been the issue from day one. This

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is why the America First campaign is so important, and

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I believe it's resonating. But again, you know, people need

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to be reminded. You know, this isn't a Republican thing

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or a democratic thing. I know this is you know,

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this goes back to what President George Washington warned about

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about the party system, that it would created a natural divide,

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and this is what we're faced with. So we've got

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to re embrace in America first mentality, you know, and

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that's that's our north star. Does it advance the cause

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and the benefit of America and Americans. If it does,

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I'm all for it. But I don't care about the

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Democratic Party. I don't care about the Republican Party. I

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care about America citizens at.

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Large, absolutely, And I like the way you said that.

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I mean America. The first question should be what how

475
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does this benefit America and does and reanalyzing our immigration

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policy our economic policy are how we who we let

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into the country, how we let these individuals into the country,

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ensuring that that institutions that have been rife with fraud

479
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are and again the good news is obviously we're tackling

480
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these issues and we're bringing it out to the forefront.

481
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You can't just have a non immigration visa system that's

482
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just ripe with fraud and workarounds and regulatory workarounds and

483
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kickbacks and pedaling influence and expect that to be again

484
00:24:06.400 --> 00:24:10.519
pro American worker. Clearly seeing this, it's not pro American worker.

485
00:24:10.839 --> 00:24:14.920
So it's good that we're having these discussions. Hopefully some

486
00:24:15.000 --> 00:24:18.319
of the regulatory loopholes are going to be closed. It's

487
00:24:18.359 --> 00:24:20.759
good to see that we're at least talking about reforming

488
00:24:20.799 --> 00:24:22.839
the H one B VISA program. There's a lot of

489
00:24:22.880 --> 00:24:24.880
regulatory work to be done behind the H one B

490
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visa program. I'd like to see us continue down this

491
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road and actually make some changes again to protect what

492
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the American worker first and formers.

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And like you said, the onus is on Congress. They

494
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got to get to work, you know, and quit playing

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around whether or not you're going to shut down the

496
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government and all this kind of you talk about performance

497
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or it continues, and what a pain. I mean, you've

498
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got some serious business to deal with, you know, playing

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political games. I could care less. Mike O'Neil, the Assistant

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Welcome morning, Welcome, Good to have you with us, Bill

558
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Martinez here, and especially grateful for Jim Harton joining us. Jim,

559
00:28:11.799 --> 00:28:14.400
of course, is the President's CEO of Compass Care and

560
00:28:14.559 --> 00:28:19.000
expert in medical ethics and women's reproductive healthcare. Jim, good

561
00:28:19.000 --> 00:28:19.599
to have you with us.

562
00:28:19.640 --> 00:28:22.920
How you doing, sir, Oh, great to be back, Thanks

563
00:28:22.920 --> 00:28:24.839
for having me. I'm doing well well.

564
00:28:24.960 --> 00:28:30.200
Specifically, I wanted to address, you know, Charlie Kirk and

565
00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:33.519
what he was bringing to campuses, what you and I

566
00:28:33.559 --> 00:28:37.160
have been talking about, you know, for decades. It seems sadly,

567
00:28:37.680 --> 00:28:40.279
but this is a situation, you know, but we still

568
00:28:40.559 --> 00:28:45.359
were bringing the truth. But hats off, and you know,

569
00:28:45.359 --> 00:28:49.440
I'm thinking about all that Charlie did. I'm just thinking,

570
00:28:49.480 --> 00:28:51.400
you know, Jim, I was thinking how many lives he

571
00:28:51.480 --> 00:28:55.279
must have saved by bringing the truth to these young

572
00:28:55.359 --> 00:29:00.720
girls that have been so indoctrinated and lied to, you know,

573
00:29:01.359 --> 00:29:03.440
the courage that it took for him to do this,

574
00:29:03.599 --> 00:29:06.440
and I wanted to, you know, give you a platform

575
00:29:06.480 --> 00:29:10.240
in which we could again revisit the facts here and

576
00:29:10.359 --> 00:29:14.160
echo what Charlie was bringing to these college campuses.

577
00:29:15.200 --> 00:29:23.279
Oh yeah, Charlie had a wonderful, winsome, oftentimes humorous, but

578
00:29:23.400 --> 00:29:27.279
easy way about him when it came to talking about

579
00:29:27.319 --> 00:29:33.079
the issues in our culture today. And I think the

580
00:29:33.079 --> 00:29:37.319
reason why the young people, especially in colleges, were gravitating

581
00:29:37.319 --> 00:29:42.000
towards Charlie is because he was able to articulate what

582
00:29:42.039 --> 00:29:46.559
it meant or what it means to be human by

583
00:29:46.720 --> 00:29:50.359
using abortion and transgenderism and all these things as a

584
00:29:50.400 --> 00:29:55.680
springboard into discussing what that means. And quite frankly, you

585
00:29:55.680 --> 00:29:59.720
and I both know that talking the debate around abortion

586
00:29:59.880 --> 00:30:02.240
is really a debate about what it means to be human.

587
00:30:02.559 --> 00:30:05.400
When does human life begin? At what point should we

588
00:30:05.400 --> 00:30:09.039
start protecting human beings under the law, et cetera, et cetera.

589
00:30:09.200 --> 00:30:13.880
It's a question about humanity. And and so Charlie understood

590
00:30:13.880 --> 00:30:18.920
the truth that we are, as human beings, infinitely valuable,

591
00:30:19.440 --> 00:30:23.319
inherently valuable. We have dignity that comes from God because

592
00:30:23.319 --> 00:30:27.279
we're made in His image, And when you're talking about

593
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you know, abortion per se, and you know oftentimes that

594
00:30:32.480 --> 00:30:35.359
people think about that as a political issue, but really

595
00:30:35.519 --> 00:30:40.839
it's only a political issue because we're debating as a

596
00:30:40.880 --> 00:30:45.640
society who we are. We've essentially lost our soul. We

597
00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:48.359
no longer understand what it means to be human, and

598
00:30:48.400 --> 00:30:51.160
so we have to talk about those things. And Charlie

599
00:30:51.200 --> 00:30:54.519
was able to get down to the kernel. Okay, what

600
00:30:54.599 --> 00:30:59.079
is this issue really all about? What is transgenderism really

601
00:30:59.119 --> 00:31:00.799
all about? What it means? What does it mean to

602
00:31:00.799 --> 00:31:03.279
be human, male and female, made in the image of God?

603
00:31:03.880 --> 00:31:06.240
What does that really mean? And how do I talk

604
00:31:06.279 --> 00:31:10.200
to you about that in a way that helps you

605
00:31:10.440 --> 00:31:14.759
understand your role as a human being in relationship to

606
00:31:14.799 --> 00:31:17.119
other human beings. And that's really the role of government.

607
00:31:17.440 --> 00:31:20.599
The role of government is what is the role of

608
00:31:20.640 --> 00:31:24.359
government and human affairs? Well, it's essentially to make it

609
00:31:24.400 --> 00:31:26.839
hard for bad people to do bad things and easier

610
00:31:26.839 --> 00:31:29.200
for good people to do good things. And what we've

611
00:31:29.240 --> 00:31:33.119
been facing in America is the government, especially coming out

612
00:31:33.119 --> 00:31:36.599
of the Biden administration and years in the Obama administration,

613
00:31:37.279 --> 00:31:40.599
the government making it very easy for bad people to

614
00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:46.319
do bad things and worse, making it difficult and sometimes

615
00:31:46.400 --> 00:31:49.759
illegal for good people to do good things. And that's

616
00:31:49.799 --> 00:31:55.240
what Charlie was facing courageously. He was facing a Marxist

617
00:31:55.319 --> 00:32:02.079
propaganda apparatus that is ensconced in higher education is uh,

618
00:32:02.400 --> 00:32:06.640
you know, is ensconced in you know, government bureaucracy with

619
00:32:06.759 --> 00:32:09.839
the DEI hiring policies all but ensuring the rank and file.

620
00:32:10.359 --> 00:32:16.599
Uh you know, government worker is a car carrying you know. Uh,

621
00:32:16.720 --> 00:32:20.400
you know, I'm a progressive communist. And so he was

622
00:32:20.440 --> 00:32:24.079
able to to talk about the truth and and and

623
00:32:24.119 --> 00:32:27.480
you know, reminds me of when Charlie was shot. You know,

624
00:32:27.480 --> 00:32:29.000
I was on Charlie Show a couple of times, and

625
00:32:29.079 --> 00:32:30.759
he was behind his one hundred percent he said, and

626
00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:33.400
he raised money for the organizations that we're partnering with,

627
00:32:34.799 --> 00:32:41.000
and uh he he was just I don't know, I'm

628
00:32:41.160 --> 00:32:47.359
just so, you know, forgive me. But there's what he

629
00:32:47.440 --> 00:32:50.559
understood that that we're this is a Christian This is

630
00:32:50.599 --> 00:32:51.680
a battle of world.

631
00:32:51.519 --> 00:32:55.559
Views, right you know, well it's it's good versus evil.

632
00:32:55.720 --> 00:32:57.599
I mean, but the thing is the way, Jim, what

633
00:32:57.920 --> 00:33:00.839
I appreciated about is that look at he got you.

634
00:33:00.880 --> 00:33:05.440
As somebody said that very appropriately he got you in

635
00:33:05.480 --> 00:33:10.519
the boat heading toward truth that would eventually lead to God. Yes, okay,

636
00:33:10.680 --> 00:33:12.799
he didn't lead with God. I mean, and I think

637
00:33:12.799 --> 00:33:16.519
that we could learn a lot because it was like, okay,

638
00:33:16.599 --> 00:33:20.079
let's just talk, let's just reason together on the things

639
00:33:20.079 --> 00:33:22.599
that we might be able to agree on, and that's

640
00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:25.799
our humanity. You know, we're going to start with the basics.

641
00:33:26.039 --> 00:33:30.720
You know, can you can you define a woman? And

642
00:33:31.000 --> 00:33:32.839
you know, at least get him to think about it,

643
00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:35.759
all right. Maybe stubbornly they may want to be like

644
00:33:36.880 --> 00:33:39.799
you know, a justice of the Supreme Court and refuse

645
00:33:39.880 --> 00:33:41.720
to answer the question. But I'm going to get you

646
00:33:41.799 --> 00:33:45.680
to think about it, okay, because as you said very brilliantly,

647
00:33:46.160 --> 00:33:48.599
is that it has to do with the essence of

648
00:33:48.640 --> 00:33:49.519
our humanity.

649
00:33:50.119 --> 00:33:54.599
Yes, right, And Charlie you know understood that. You know,

650
00:33:55.319 --> 00:34:00.680
coming to Christ is a process of engaging people relationally

651
00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:07.039
speaking the truth and love is key. You know, you know,

652
00:34:07.079 --> 00:34:08.800
when when somebody so so, when I when I saw

653
00:34:09.840 --> 00:34:12.199
somebody wants to talk to me about we were firebomb

654
00:34:12.239 --> 00:34:14.519
as you know, Bill and covered that. He was one

655
00:34:14.519 --> 00:34:16.719
of the first ones to cover it. And we were

656
00:34:16.760 --> 00:34:20.639
fire byb by Marxistantifa front group and know as Jane's revenge,

657
00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:25.159
and and I and I came out really strongly against

658
00:34:26.000 --> 00:34:30.840
that and calling people back to civilized order. And and

659
00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:34.480
I had Christians ostensibly, you know, saying, Jimmy just need

660
00:34:34.480 --> 00:34:38.039
to just back off, turn the other cheek. And I

661
00:34:38.360 --> 00:34:41.920
and I looked at that passage again about turning the

662
00:34:41.920 --> 00:34:44.360
other cheek, and I'm thinking about Charlie.

663
00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:47.159
Charlie turned the other cheek.

664
00:34:47.239 --> 00:34:51.639
And here's what I need. When Jesus said in that

665
00:34:51.679 --> 00:34:55.480
passage in Matthew, when someone strikes you on your right cheek,

666
00:34:56.679 --> 00:34:59.079
turn the other cheek, give them the other cheek. Well,

667
00:34:59.360 --> 00:35:01.880
most people are right handed, and so when they if

668
00:35:01.920 --> 00:35:04.199
you're struck on your right cheek, what that means is

669
00:35:04.239 --> 00:35:07.239
you're being backhanded. Okay, that's an insult, it's a slight,

670
00:35:07.320 --> 00:35:11.119
it's a it's a cheap shot. And so God is

671
00:35:11.199 --> 00:35:14.480
basically saying turning their cheek. He's saying, stand up, stand

672
00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:19.119
up tall, don't back down. And and and he's basically saying,

673
00:35:19.159 --> 00:35:22.519
give them your other cheek. That's a that's not it's

674
00:35:22.559 --> 00:35:25.760
an act of courage. And you give someone your other cheek,

675
00:35:25.800 --> 00:35:28.320
saying no, no, no, here's give me your best shot this time.

676
00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:32.559
And Charlie's sign on his tents on the college campus

677
00:35:32.679 --> 00:35:33.840
was prove me wrong.

678
00:35:34.079 --> 00:35:34.280
Wrong.

679
00:35:34.599 --> 00:35:37.199
Yes, I'm not going to use your tactics. I'm not

680
00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:40.440
going to sync to your level in terms of violence,

681
00:35:40.880 --> 00:35:43.320
but I want you to talk with me. Come, let

682
00:35:43.400 --> 00:35:46.000
us reason together. Let's talk about the truth.

683
00:35:46.079 --> 00:35:49.079
Here, here's the microphone. And the people that came up

684
00:35:49.079 --> 00:35:52.360
front were the ones they purposely selected, the ones that

685
00:35:52.400 --> 00:35:55.239
were at a grievance. It wasn't that they were going

686
00:35:55.320 --> 00:35:56.719
to come on and take up a bunch of times

687
00:35:56.760 --> 00:35:58.239
say oh I love you Charnick Kirk and I love

688
00:35:58.239 --> 00:36:00.320
all the balls and everything like that. No, it was

689
00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:02.480
like it was there for a reason, as you said,

690
00:36:02.719 --> 00:36:06.239
to reason together, to let's talk about these difficult topics.

691
00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:09.480
Because where else are you talking about them in your

692
00:36:09.559 --> 00:36:14.760
silos and your social media outlets. Maybe on campus, maybe

693
00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:17.039
in some of these classrooms that are being led by

694
00:36:17.079 --> 00:36:21.440
these progressive professors that are not doing much to really

695
00:36:21.480 --> 00:36:25.360
intellectualize you. If anything, they're dumbing you down. He didn't

696
00:36:25.400 --> 00:36:28.320
say that, you know, but we know you and I

697
00:36:28.360 --> 00:36:32.559
have enough experience. Is that when you squelled speech, you

698
00:36:32.800 --> 00:36:34.599
purposely dumb people down.

699
00:36:35.000 --> 00:36:39.119
Yes, and you know we have the truth. I mean, Billie,

700
00:36:39.800 --> 00:36:43.360
we have. We have nothing to fear, right, we have

701
00:36:43.599 --> 00:36:47.000
where God is not up there ringing his hands saying,

702
00:36:47.320 --> 00:36:49.000
I wonder if they're going to stump me this time.

703
00:36:49.639 --> 00:36:53.880
God has revealed himself to mankind. Because mankind's mind in

704
00:36:53.920 --> 00:36:57.159
our hearts are darkened. We don't know the truth unless

705
00:36:57.239 --> 00:37:00.159
God reveals himself to us. And once he does, it's

706
00:37:00.159 --> 00:37:02.960
like somebody, you know, it's like walking, It's like walking

707
00:37:03.000 --> 00:37:05.679
around with glasses on that turned the world upside down.

708
00:37:05.960 --> 00:37:08.519
My son and daughter in law have these glasses. We

709
00:37:08.559 --> 00:37:10.679
went over to their house and I put these glasses on,

710
00:37:11.000 --> 00:37:14.280
and it turned everything upside down. Your mirror glasses. And

711
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and it's a perfect analogy of how God describes humanity.

712
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We're in the dark, we see the world upside down,

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and Jesus came to reveal himself to us, and he

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turned everything right side up. He took those those those

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mirror glasses off our eyes so we could see the

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wrong and wrong is right, and good as evil and

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evil's good, that's because they have these their their view.

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to say, let's take the glasses off from them. Here's

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here's what wrong is. Because here's this who God is,

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and we're designed to reflect his character and his nature exactly.

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Welcome back. Just about fourteen minutes before the top of

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the hour, we're visiting with president and CEO of Comma's Character,

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Jim Harden. Jim, you know, it's one thing to see

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the truth, it's yet another thing to be set free.

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I thought it was interesting that when Charlie was shot,

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his shirt he had freedom on his shirt. And this

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is why, you know, when Jesus came to liberate us,

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you know, to set the captives free. I mean, and

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here we are. You know, the nature of humanity is

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we don't learn from history. We avoid the truth, and

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we end up getting ourselves trapped. And this is where

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a lot of people are right now, sadly is they're trapped.

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And what Charlie Kirk did was he set a lot

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of people free in believing in the Gospel and having

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the courage and as you said, you know, when you

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are a man and woman of faith and your blessed

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assurance is in the Cross of Christ, you can you

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can speak freely, respectfully, in love and and and be

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what what do you want? You want them to experience

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what you have, and that is you've got the ultimate

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gift that Jesus has given us, which is freedom. Yeah.

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I mean when you really ponder and consider and meditate

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what that means to be free.

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Charlie exemplified that freedom. And what I mean by that is.

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Charlie death did not enter into or factor into the

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formula for Charlie's decision making about where he was going

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to go, what he was going to say, and how

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he's going to say it.

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And that's the beauty of a good Christians. And that's

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the if you look at the the the behavior of

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the of the Disciples of Christ before and during the

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crucifixion and shortly thereafter, they were they were fearful of death,

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and they were fearful of other people and what other

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people might say of them. I'm thinking of Peter here.

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And then when when Christ rose from the grave and

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they received the Holy Spirit. I'm condensing a lot of

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things here, but death no longer factored in. They could

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stand courageously in the face of tremendous opposition and even

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in the face of losing their own lives, like Stephen did.

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The First Martyr.

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He stood and spoke the truth to the powers that be,

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and they could not contend with his rationale explanation of

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what it means to be human in Christ. And so

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they they gnashed their teeth and they rushed on him

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in a murderous frenzy and killed it. That's the first Martyr,

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and I think that's exactly what has been happening to

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Christians all across this country, and that's what happened.

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And around the world, exactly around the world.

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Yes, they cannot contend with the rational explanation of what

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it means to be human under God. They want to

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be their own God. And so when Charles, I thought

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to myself, well this is this is a man of courage,

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because when you juxtapose what he was doing standing there

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facing the fire, and I know he had death threats,

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and you look at the response of the crowd when

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that shot rang out and they ran in fear. Now

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I'm not saying they shouldn't run for cover. I'm just

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saying that fear was thick. Charlie, you know, he knew

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all the risks and yet he went in anyway. And

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that's what we have to understand is God in Christ

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takes away from us the fear of death because we

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know we're already living eternal life. You know, our relationship

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with Charlie isn't over. We understand as Christians that's just

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changed for a little while. The resrection is coming. We

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have to live this life to the fullest for the

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glory of God and watch him show up. We don't

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want to rob God at the opportunity to show himself

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strong on our behalf. By cowering and fear, we went

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to stand strong and watch him show up. And he

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delights to show himself faithful eyes moved to and fro

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throughout the entire earth, that he might strongly support those

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whose hearts are completely his. And so I think about Charlie,

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and I thought about myself, what do we do now?

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What does the church do now? What are we as

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Christians supposed to think about this? And the first thing

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that came to mind was the story about when Jesus

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was notified of the tragedy of the day. Do you

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remember this? It was in Luke thirteen, I think it was,

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and somebody we asked him about the injustice that happened,

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you know, recently to some Jews that were killed by

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the government, and their blood was mingled with the sacrifices

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horrific And then so Jesus said, well, when you see

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things like this happening, like the Tower of Silom, you know,

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falling and killing eighteen people, and this injustice that we

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see happening of these killings, what should be our first response?

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Our first response, Jesus said, is to repent or you

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00:46:56.519 --> 00:47:00.119
will all likewise perish. That's what he said, repents. When

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I think about okay, so what does that mean for me?

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00:47:02.039 --> 00:47:04.800
I have to repent when I see Charlie Kirk getting shot.

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I have to take stock of my life about how

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I parents, how I work, you know, with my employer,

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00:47:11.360 --> 00:47:14.400
how I engage my church, how I engage my community.

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I have to take stock and I have to repent

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and make sure that my life is in.

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Line with exact exactly.

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We all have something. There's no shame in repentance, you know.

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That's the point.

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Well, that's the opportunity that we have right now. And

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this is what's going on. Because you got a lot

899
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of young kids. Some are quick to call this a revival,

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and I'm saying, wait a minute, you know we need

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the first thing you said exactly right. The first step

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is repentance. Because if you're reviving, what are you reviving from? Right,

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If you don't know what you're reviving from, then it's

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just going to be a kind of a surface experience,

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00:47:51.519 --> 00:47:55.000
you know, as opposed to being something genuine that's going

906
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to have some lasting impact, unlike what we experienced in

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nine to eleven. Because you have a lot of people,

908
00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:04.199
you know, wondering, Okay, what's going on? Are we under attack?

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00:48:04.280 --> 00:48:06.719
You know, what's happening with our country? And they go

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00:48:06.760 --> 00:48:09.400
to the churches, and sadly, I think the churches were

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00:48:09.440 --> 00:48:12.880
ill prepared. They weren't in front of that movement. And

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my prayer for the churches today is that they would

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be aligned, just as you said, very appropriately, aligned with

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00:48:18.559 --> 00:48:23.000
God's plan in all this, and that that a real

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awakening that we've all been praying for. But the first

916
00:48:26.880 --> 00:48:29.559
step before you get to revival is you've got to

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00:48:29.599 --> 00:48:33.280
reckon your reconcile yourself with God. You've got to align

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00:48:33.320 --> 00:48:36.360
yourself with God. And that's that's what confession is all about.

919
00:48:36.599 --> 00:48:38.480
Is you're sitting there saying, God, I agree with you

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right right.

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I agree with you God about who I am. I

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agree with you God about what you say you are.

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I agree with you God that I must submit my

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life to you because You're the main character and all

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this not me. I agree with you God that I

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can I should be being doing a better job as

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a husband, as a father, as a as a as

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a as an employee, as a church member, as a

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you know, all in the blank friend, family, son, daughter,

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doesn't matter. I need to take stock and recalibrate and

931
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reorient and realign myself with God because that's how He

932
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created me. And so I'm just trying to get back

933
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in line with That's that's that's what the word discipleship

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00:49:17.840 --> 00:49:21.280
is all about. Discipline yourself in light of the revelation

935
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of God to be in line with what he says,

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what it means to be human as a man, as

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a woman, et cetera. And and and so you know,

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I think the church, I mean, Bill, you've been grinding

939
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this out day in and day out for decades. You

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know that's faithfulness. And we need to as a church,

941
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as a body of believers, demonstrate endurance, courage, and endurance

942
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in a culture that is not just apathetic. We're talking

943
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about a non Christian, almost anti Christian culture exactly. And

944
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so you know, we this is going to take a

945
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lot of courage. It's going to mean that we're going

946
00:49:59.920 --> 00:50:01.280
to have to be alert as a church.

947
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To be alert.

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Why do we need to be alert Because the enemy

949
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role he's roaring, seeking someone to devour. And we need

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to make sure that our love does not grow cold

951
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in a culture of lawlessness. And that's what we've got.

952
00:50:14.639 --> 00:50:17.679
We've got a nation that has been over many many years,

953
00:50:18.119 --> 00:50:24.320
attempting to legalize lawlessness exactly God describes it. And being

954
00:50:24.320 --> 00:50:26.800
a lord is important, is extremely important for the church

955
00:50:26.880 --> 00:50:29.880
to understand, and the pastors need to be calling people

956
00:50:29.880 --> 00:50:33.320
back to repentance. And just as just as Jesus did,

957
00:50:33.480 --> 00:50:38.039
we must not shirk that responsibility. And I think you know,

958
00:50:38.079 --> 00:50:44.559
God's going to demonstrate, you know, miraculous things on a

959
00:50:44.599 --> 00:50:48.239
daily basis if his people are willing to speak the

960
00:50:48.280 --> 00:50:50.840
truth in love in a very dark culture.

961
00:50:51.360 --> 00:50:54.159
Well, we know that judgment always starts in the house

962
00:50:54.199 --> 00:50:56.800
of the house of the Lord. Right, So this is

963
00:50:56.840 --> 00:51:00.719
again it's all about opportunity. And you know, just as

964
00:51:00.800 --> 00:51:03.840
Jesus wept over Jerusalem because they miss their appointed time,

965
00:51:04.320 --> 00:51:07.119
my prayer is that we not miss our a pointed time. Jim,

966
00:51:07.159 --> 00:51:09.039
we got about two and a half minutes left, and

967
00:51:09.079 --> 00:51:12.599
I just wanted to highlight again the facts about abortion,

968
00:51:12.719 --> 00:51:15.239
the things that Charlie brought to the campus all the time,

969
00:51:15.280 --> 00:51:17.039
you know, because these young girls would come in and

970
00:51:17.039 --> 00:51:20.480
they'd say, well, it's just a clump of cells and

971
00:51:20.480 --> 00:51:23.559
and and he would say, okay, when when does the

972
00:51:23.559 --> 00:51:26.519
fetus Okay? Well, we'll use your word when When When

973
00:51:26.599 --> 00:51:30.320
does the heartbeat in the baby begin? When? When does

974
00:51:30.320 --> 00:51:32.840
it show up? Let's hit on those real quick and

975
00:51:32.920 --> 00:51:36.400
kind of summarize these key points that are such grave

976
00:51:36.760 --> 00:51:42.159
misunderstandings and points of misinformation that these young girls and

977
00:51:42.280 --> 00:51:46.519
dare I say, even these participating uh you know, male

978
00:51:46.599 --> 00:51:49.639
figures in this whole ruse about abortion.

979
00:51:51.000 --> 00:51:54.800
Yeah, we need to understand that, you know, scientifically speaking

980
00:51:55.000 --> 00:51:58.079
in terms of the science of embryology, that is the

981
00:51:58.239 --> 00:52:01.519
how human life develops. In you road, when does when

982
00:52:01.559 --> 00:52:04.719
does science say life begins? Science says human a unique

983
00:52:04.760 --> 00:52:11.400
human life begins the moment when a male gammy meets

984
00:52:11.679 --> 00:52:15.719
a female gammyt and creates a unique strand of DNA.

985
00:52:16.360 --> 00:52:20.880
And that DNA represents, at the most nation level point,

986
00:52:20.920 --> 00:52:26.400
the most of that moment, a unique human life, because

987
00:52:26.440 --> 00:52:31.400
that DNA manages the maturation of that child from that

988
00:52:31.480 --> 00:52:34.000
moment on through natural death. And you and I, by

989
00:52:34.039 --> 00:52:37.280
the way, are not done maturing, thankfully, And and so

990
00:52:37.400 --> 00:52:41.840
what makes that that that newly formed human any different

991
00:52:42.800 --> 00:52:43.840
than than me or you.

992
00:52:44.559 --> 00:52:46.119
Yeah, outside outside of you.

993
00:52:46.199 --> 00:52:51.559
To row right that at that moment, that child is

994
00:52:51.639 --> 00:52:53.079
full of human at that.

995
00:52:53.119 --> 00:52:55.760
Moment, fully human at conception.

996
00:52:55.559 --> 00:52:58.639
At conception, and so what what we found is that,

997
00:53:00.079 --> 00:53:03.000
you know, people are are attempting pro pro abortion people

998
00:53:03.000 --> 00:53:07.960
attempting to redefine conception to mean implantation in the uterine lining, right,

999
00:53:08.239 --> 00:53:11.960
and we know that actual fertilization, the moment of human

1000
00:53:11.960 --> 00:53:14.760
being begins, happens in the Filippian tubes when the male

1001
00:53:14.800 --> 00:53:18.400
game beats the female gammy and creates a new embryo,

1002
00:53:18.880 --> 00:53:21.519
and that embryo going to move down the Filippian tubes

1003
00:53:21.519 --> 00:53:24.840
and then implants in the uterus urine lining and then

1004
00:53:24.880 --> 00:53:27.320
begins to continue wow, then continues to grow. So the

1005
00:53:27.320 --> 00:53:32.599
baby is always growing estentially geometrically. Actually the baby slows

1006
00:53:32.639 --> 00:53:35.840
its his or her growth toward the end of pregnancy.

1007
00:53:36.159 --> 00:53:39.519
But it's absolutely incredible how fast that baby is growing.

1008
00:53:39.559 --> 00:53:44.280
In fact, the baby has all all human all the

1009
00:53:44.480 --> 00:53:47.639
all the systems of a physical body are already developed

1010
00:53:48.039 --> 00:53:51.920
by the eighth week. This is including the heart beating,

1011
00:53:52.000 --> 00:53:54.480
including you know, the nervous system, I mean, the the

1012
00:53:54.719 --> 00:53:58.400
you know, every everything is there. It's just continuing to develop.

1013
00:53:58.679 --> 00:54:01.480
And then the baby feels pain at that point as well. Right.

1014
00:54:01.519 --> 00:54:01.719
Yeah.

1015
00:54:01.719 --> 00:54:04.880
Also, and we think quite quite honestly, the baby feels

1016
00:54:04.960 --> 00:54:09.639
more pain because the pain your body actually develops pain inhibitors. Right,

1017
00:54:09.679 --> 00:54:12.440
so we think there's more raw, raw pain being felt

1018
00:54:12.719 --> 00:54:17.920
at earlier stages in the human development. And so you know,

1019
00:54:18.280 --> 00:54:21.519
and furthermore, does it does it make a human more

1020
00:54:21.599 --> 00:54:24.239
or less human? If if they feel more or less pain? Well,

1021
00:54:24.280 --> 00:54:25.960
you and I know it's not that's not the case.

1022
00:54:26.639 --> 00:54:29.559
Like you know, what does a child need in order

1023
00:54:29.599 --> 00:54:30.320
to be viable?

1024
00:54:30.599 --> 00:54:30.800
Right?

1025
00:54:31.119 --> 00:54:34.440
Viability is a viability concept. Well, and baby's baby can't

1026
00:54:34.440 --> 00:54:36.719
survive outside the womb on his or her own, baby's

1027
00:54:36.719 --> 00:54:39.239
not viable and so therefore is not fully human. Well

1028
00:54:39.480 --> 00:54:42.800
quite frankly, if if you strip me down and set

1029
00:54:42.840 --> 00:54:46.360
me in the north pole and said, okay, survive, I'm

1030
00:54:46.400 --> 00:54:49.000
no longer at that point, I'm no longer viable. I

1031
00:54:49.079 --> 00:54:51.639
need food, I need I need nutrition, I need hydration,

1032
00:54:51.800 --> 00:54:55.079
I need shelter to be viable, right right, that's the

1033
00:54:55.159 --> 00:54:57.679
same thing for it, so that there's no difference between

1034
00:54:57.719 --> 00:55:00.400
me and that baby and the womb. That baby needs nutrition, hydration,

1035
00:55:00.519 --> 00:55:04.960
and shelter, and then mother is providing exactly that there's

1036
00:55:05.000 --> 00:55:08.719
no difference. So you know, we you know, scientifically understand

1037
00:55:08.719 --> 00:55:13.599
that theologically we also understand more importantly that God from

1038
00:55:13.639 --> 00:55:15.880
the foundation of the world, from before the foundation of

1039
00:55:15.920 --> 00:55:19.119
the world, had us in mind Ephesians Chapter one, verse four.

1040
00:55:19.519 --> 00:55:25.000
He wove us together in our mother's womb Psalm one

1041
00:55:25.000 --> 00:55:27.480
point nine. He made us just a little lower than

1042
00:55:27.480 --> 00:55:31.440
the angels Psalm eighty. He has his thoughts about us

1043
00:55:31.480 --> 00:55:34.920
are more numerous than can be counted Psalm forty. I

1044
00:55:34.960 --> 00:55:39.639
mean God lovingly intended us to exist and fashioned us

1045
00:55:39.760 --> 00:55:44.079
very intentionally. We are inherently valuable. We are infinitely valuable

1046
00:55:44.079 --> 00:55:45.679
by virtue of the shed blood of Christ. Think about

1047
00:55:45.679 --> 00:55:49.599
that Jesus blood got in the flesh, shed his blood

1048
00:55:50.199 --> 00:55:53.039
to buy us back from sin and death. He assign

1049
00:55:53.159 --> 00:55:55.960
a value to you and I, and that value, based

1050
00:55:55.960 --> 00:55:58.599
on the value of his blood, is infinite. Now what

1051
00:55:58.639 --> 00:56:01.360
does that mean for me? It means I must respect

1052
00:56:01.719 --> 00:56:04.880
every human being. I must protect the weak and the vulnerable.

1053
00:56:04.920 --> 00:56:08.360
I too, must take on the passionate heart of God,

1054
00:56:08.400 --> 00:56:12.639
who wants to protect the oppressed, who gives, who seeks

1055
00:56:13.159 --> 00:56:14.719
those that are beaten and left for dead on the

1056
00:56:14.760 --> 00:56:18.840
dangerous jerker out of life and gives them their lives back.

1057
00:56:19.559 --> 00:56:22.360
He tells the lawyer go and do likewise that's what

1058
00:56:22.400 --> 00:56:25.119
love is. And so the most weak and the most

1059
00:56:25.199 --> 00:56:27.760
vulnerable at this point in time in our society happens

1060
00:56:27.760 --> 00:56:29.199
to be the preborn boring girl.

1061
00:56:29.760 --> 00:56:34.400
Yeah. Amen, Well, in the I always love Genesis. You know.

1062
00:56:35.159 --> 00:56:38.280
Here you've got five days of creation. After each day

1063
00:56:38.320 --> 00:56:42.159
God says it's good, it's good. He creates man on

1064
00:56:42.199 --> 00:56:46.960
the sixth day is very good, you know, and we're

1065
00:56:47.000 --> 00:56:51.559
made in his image. And as a result of that

1066
00:56:51.679 --> 00:56:55.119
is in what you suggested, you know, you think about it.

1067
00:56:55.800 --> 00:57:01.000
We never meet a mere mortal. You know how significant

1068
00:57:01.719 --> 00:57:06.400
the creation is, and particularly when it comes to the

1069
00:57:06.440 --> 00:57:12.079
crowning jewel of the whole creation story, it's that which

1070
00:57:12.079 --> 00:57:15.400
he said is very very good. Jim Harden has always

1071
00:57:15.559 --> 00:57:17.760
appreciate the time. Thank you so much for being with us.

1072
00:57:18.280 --> 00:57:22.119
Jim is the president and CEO of Compass Care. Jim

1073
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Easy Getting america back on, Track Bill Martinez Live, Well

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good Morning.

1112
00:59:48.880 --> 00:59:50.599
America six minutes chapter in the top of the. Hour

1113
00:59:50.679 --> 00:59:54.519
Bill martinez here with my good, friend Doctor alex. McFarlane Doctor,

1114
00:59:54.559 --> 00:59:56.280
alex how you, doing. Buddy i'm.

1115
00:59:56.320 --> 00:59:57.440
Beloved it's good to see.

1116
00:59:57.400 --> 00:59:57.440
You.

1117
00:59:57.480 --> 01:00:00.360
Bill, hey, great great seeing. You it's it's been a

1118
01:00:00.400 --> 01:00:03.639
wild couple of, weeks lots going. ON i was glad

1119
01:00:03.679 --> 01:00:09.360
to see you respond passionately about this misinformation about our

1120
01:00:09.400 --> 01:00:12.039
Friend Charlie. KIRK i, mean the thing that's being thrown

1121
01:00:12.039 --> 01:00:17.360
out there talk about a, misrepresentation a clear, misunderstanding and

1122
01:00:17.559 --> 01:00:22.239
what it, does it makes it clear that people are

1123
01:00:22.360 --> 01:00:26.400
very ignorant of the difference between good and that's really

1124
01:00:26.400 --> 01:00:28.360
what it comes down. To so you can't expect them

1125
01:00:28.639 --> 01:00:33.400
to understand when you just don't even have a foundation

1126
01:00:33.440 --> 01:00:35.800
to begin. With and that's What charlie did, first was

1127
01:00:35.840 --> 01:00:38.039
to go and go into the belly of the beast

1128
01:00:38.159 --> 01:00:40.960
and help educate these young kids that have been indoctrinated

1129
01:00:41.519 --> 01:00:45.360
and bringing the. Truth and you could just see on their, Faces,

1130
01:00:45.440 --> 01:00:48.639
alex how they. RESPONDED i mean it was, like oh,

1131
01:00:48.679 --> 01:00:51.480
GOSH i am not. CRAZY i was thinking MAYBE i was.

1132
01:00:51.480 --> 01:00:53.639
Crazy my teachers were telling me you're. Crazy my peers

1133
01:00:53.639 --> 01:00:56.360
were telling Me i'm. Crazy but, yeah this all starts

1134
01:00:56.360 --> 01:00:58.800
to make, sense, right, exactly.

1135
01:00:58.880 --> 01:01:00.639
Exactly, well first of, All, bill it's great to be with,

1136
01:01:00.679 --> 01:01:03.360
you AND i appreciate you so much as a journalist

1137
01:01:03.360 --> 01:01:06.639
and a, broadcaster and you AND i have done a

1138
01:01:06.639 --> 01:01:09.119
lot of interviews over the, years And i've always known

1139
01:01:09.199 --> 01:01:13.800
you to be a very very precise, thinker a very

1140
01:01:13.840 --> 01:01:18.480
meticulous thinker and. Communicator and there's a lot to be.

1141
01:01:18.639 --> 01:01:25.000
Said this is as, MONUMENTAL i believe as the shooting

1142
01:01:25.079 --> 01:01:29.679
OF JFK Rfk Martin Luther King. JUNIOR i, mean this

1143
01:01:29.719 --> 01:01:34.280
is a defining moment in our country's. History and let

1144
01:01:34.320 --> 01:01:37.519
me just SAY i Knew. CHARLIE i shared the stage

1145
01:01:37.559 --> 01:01:41.960
with him on a number of, occasions as recently AS i.

1146
01:01:42.000 --> 01:01:46.159
Believe it Was october twenty, fourth last, fall he was

1147
01:01:46.199 --> 01:01:50.239
speaking In colorado before the. Election there were thirty five hundred.

1148
01:01:50.320 --> 01:01:54.360
People charlie AND i were backstage for two hours. ALONE

1149
01:01:55.199 --> 01:01:57.800
i prayed with him before he went out to. Speak

1150
01:01:58.480 --> 01:02:02.159
but over the, years you, know we had lots and

1151
01:02:02.320 --> 01:02:05.519
lots and lots of time to talk about. Things AND

1152
01:02:06.480 --> 01:02:09.320
i just want to say, this regardless of what political

1153
01:02:09.360 --> 01:02:14.559
positions someone might, be this is a tragic loss for

1154
01:02:15.599 --> 01:02:21.119
a great young. Thinker you, Know, Bill i'm old, Enough

1155
01:02:21.199 --> 01:02:24.920
you're old enough to remember Like WILLIAM. F Buckley.

1156
01:02:25.000 --> 01:02:26.320
Junior of, Course.

1157
01:02:27.639 --> 01:02:29.719
Bill buckley AND i would encourage people to go on

1158
01:02:29.800 --> 01:02:34.719
YouTube and look at some of the old episodes Of Firing,

1159
01:02:34.880 --> 01:02:39.079
line back from the nineteen, eighties where maybe we had

1160
01:02:39.079 --> 01:02:41.599
a bit longer of an attention. Span But WILLIAM. F

1161
01:02:41.639 --> 01:02:47.039
Buckley junior he would unpack for like ninety, MINUTES i,

1162
01:02:47.119 --> 01:02:52.320
mean deep issues about, economics our, constitution and think About WILLIAM.

1163
01:02:52.400 --> 01:02:56.239
F buckley And charlie was the same Way WILLIAM. F

1164
01:02:56.320 --> 01:02:59.639
buckley would have on people that agreed with, him like

1165
01:02:59.719 --> 01:03:03.440
Ron Old reagan or A Pat buchanan or an Antonin.

1166
01:03:03.559 --> 01:03:07.199
Scalia but he would also have on atheists Like Christopher,

1167
01:03:07.280 --> 01:03:11.239
hitchins who was a friend of. Mine you, Know hitchins

1168
01:03:11.280 --> 01:03:16.760
AND i were in two different. UNIVERSES i believe In Jesus.

1169
01:03:16.840 --> 01:03:21.639
Christ he did. Not but we agreed On, Jefferson we

1170
01:03:21.679 --> 01:03:27.119
agreed on the nature of The. Constitution Charlie kirk was

1171
01:03:27.480 --> 01:03:32.679
absolutely in the same vernacular as A. W. M. F

1172
01:03:32.840 --> 01:03:37.000
buckley or an Antonin. Scalia he really. Would he was,

1173
01:03:37.119 --> 01:03:39.719
brilliant and he AND i did not agree on. Everything

1174
01:03:40.360 --> 01:03:46.920
but my point this is a monumental. Tragedy he was

1175
01:03:47.360 --> 01:03:53.800
absolutely in the same tier as like A Chuck. Colson

1176
01:03:54.280 --> 01:03:58.639
you AND i both Knew Chuck, Colson, yes and so

1177
01:03:59.639 --> 01:04:06.880
look he's in. Heaven the memorial service was. Magnificent But i'm,

1178
01:04:07.079 --> 01:04:11.519
Sad bill because AND i, Know charlie did more in

1179
01:04:11.559 --> 01:04:14.159
thirty one years than most people could do in ninety one.

1180
01:04:14.239 --> 01:04:20.480
Years but this is a very important voice And american

1181
01:04:20.679 --> 01:04:23.079
intellect that has been snuffed.

1182
01:04:23.079 --> 01:04:27.840
Out, yeah well, again our hope comes From, god who's,

1183
01:04:27.840 --> 01:04:32.320
sovereign and his purposes will be. Realized charlie was sold,

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out you, know even you, know his wife made mention of.

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The book Of, isaiah you, know who do we? Send

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And charlie didn't even hesitate send, me you. Know And erica, says,

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hey next, time can you talk to me? First because she,

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understood you, know, spiritually she understood how significant that response.

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Was and and when you say To god send, me

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you surrender all you're. Not you're not asking for a return.

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Ticket you're just going out and Whatever god sovereignly decides

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to do because it's in the best interests of the

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grander plan of. Eternity, YEAH i mean that is, uh that's,

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true true sacrifice and and and that is a personal

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thing that you, Know, charlie Only charlie, understands you, know

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face to face with His savior right now fully and

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gives us hope is that we know That god is.

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Com New.

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Welcome, morning and. Welcome good to have you with. Us

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Bill martinez, here and also we Got Joan hunter joining.

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Us i'm going to be talking about her new, book

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three hundred and sixty Five days Of hope And healing

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01:20:04.479 --> 01:20:07.960
for Your, body, mind and. Soul, john thank you so

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much for being with, us the timeliness of your. Book

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who would have thought right? Right?

1443
01:20:13.960 --> 01:20:17.560
WELL i got dramatically healed roughly twenty, six twenty, five

1444
01:20:17.640 --> 01:20:20.640
twenty six years ago in my heart broken heart, syndrome et.

1445
01:20:20.720 --> 01:20:25.399
Cetera And god has given me such a compassion for

1446
01:20:25.560 --> 01:20:30.279
people that are struggling with broken heart, syndrome, grief, abandonment,

1447
01:20:30.359 --> 01:20:32.560
rejection all that kind of. Stuff And i've Been i'm,

1448
01:20:32.600 --> 01:20:34.560
like way on the other side of, This and when

1449
01:20:34.600 --> 01:20:36.079
you're on the other side of, it that's when you

1450
01:20:36.079 --> 01:20:39.760
can really teach it and minister and go in and

1451
01:20:40.199 --> 01:20:41.960
pull them out of, it which is so.

1452
01:20:42.079 --> 01:20:45.119
Exciting don't you love the Way god? WORKS i, mean

1453
01:20:45.520 --> 01:20:49.159
you go through hell and what have, you and you're

1454
01:20:49.199 --> 01:20:52.079
just trying to survive and make it. Through But god's

1455
01:20:52.159 --> 01:20:56.520
plan is beyond our, suffering for you, know by comparison

1456
01:20:56.600 --> 01:20:58.720
for a short period of, time even when we think

1457
01:20:58.720 --> 01:21:03.439
about this earthlea, exhibit this is nothing compared to eternity right.

1458
01:21:03.560 --> 01:21:06.600
Right And genesis, fifty verse. Twenty it's kind of like

1459
01:21:06.640 --> 01:21:10.119
one of one of my Five foundational. Scriptures though the

1460
01:21:10.279 --> 01:21:13.119
enemy meant this for, Harm god took, it turned it

1461
01:21:13.159 --> 01:21:18.119
around and made a miracle out of. It and books at.

1462
01:21:18.199 --> 01:21:18.600
A lot of.

1463
01:21:18.640 --> 01:21:21.159
Books you, know it's like The devil's.

1464
01:21:21.199 --> 01:21:23.880
Sorry he ever messed with, me BECAUSE i am putting

1465
01:21:23.880 --> 01:21:27.720
the word out for you to get. Healed and whether, body, mind, soul,

1466
01:21:27.800 --> 01:21:30.640
spirit or, Finances i've. Got i've been through the whole.

1467
01:21:30.680 --> 01:21:33.840
Gamut and by being through the whole, gamut it's.

1468
01:21:33.920 --> 01:21:36.600
Yay THOUGH i walk through The valley of The shadow of.

1469
01:21:36.640 --> 01:21:36.840
Death.

1470
01:21:36.920 --> 01:21:39.560
Yay THOUGH i walk through all the hell That i've gone,

1471
01:21:39.600 --> 01:21:41.439
THROUGH i don't smell like, Hell Praise.

1472
01:21:41.560 --> 01:21:45.920
God but the point IS i didn't stay, there and you,

1473
01:21:45.960 --> 01:21:47.720
know people just GO i was.

1474
01:21:47.840 --> 01:21:51.359
MINISTERING i just got back From iceland last night AND

1475
01:21:51.479 --> 01:21:55.560
i was ministering this. Lady she's a pastor there and

1476
01:21:55.640 --> 01:22:00.520
her husband HAS ptsd and he has totally accepted he

1477
01:22:00.720 --> 01:22:03.720
HAS ptsd for the rest of his life and he's living.

1478
01:22:03.760 --> 01:22:07.880
It And i'm, like oh, no get out of. That,

1479
01:22:08.439 --> 01:22:12.760
Yes and you, know it's like he won't. Budge he

1480
01:22:12.840 --> 01:22:15.239
got diagnosed with it got. Labeled and that's WHAT i teach,

1481
01:22:15.279 --> 01:22:19.079
about getting rid of the label's ADD, ADHD, ptsd all

1482
01:22:19.079 --> 01:22:21.920
those other letters that go on, there, OH, cd you name,

1483
01:22:21.960 --> 01:22:24.399
it it's on, there and you, know get.

1484
01:22:24.319 --> 01:22:27.399
Rid of those labels because we tend to live up to.

1485
01:22:27.439 --> 01:22:30.840
That and you, know twenty five years, AGO i went

1486
01:22:30.920 --> 01:22:33.800
to divorce my ex husband was living an alternative.

1487
01:22:33.760 --> 01:22:37.640
Lifestyle unfortunately still, is BUT i got.

1488
01:22:37.680 --> 01:22:42.000
DIVORCED i was devastated BECAUSE i still loved, him and

1489
01:22:42.039 --> 01:22:46.560
then diagnosed with breast cancer two days, after then diagnosed

1490
01:22:46.600 --> 01:22:49.319
with broken heart, syndrome given two years to. Live now

1491
01:22:49.359 --> 01:22:53.760
that was almost twenty six years. Ago, hallelujah totally the cancer.

1492
01:22:53.800 --> 01:22:55.760
Free thank You. Jesus broken heart.

1493
01:22:55.800 --> 01:22:58.600
Syndrome my doctor, said my heart, doctor he, goes you

1494
01:22:58.680 --> 01:22:59.359
have a beautiful.

1495
01:22:59.359 --> 01:23:00.399
Heart i'm, like thank You.

1496
01:23:00.520 --> 01:23:06.119
Jesus that's you, know BUT i, understand you, know and

1497
01:23:06.199 --> 01:23:08.840
see the thing is is that you in turn can

1498
01:23:09.039 --> 01:23:13.960
totally completely succumb to the label that you know you're.

1499
01:23:14.039 --> 01:23:16.960
Divorced god could never use, you because this is what

1500
01:23:17.000 --> 01:23:20.720
people want, want you, know in, btiguar this is what

1501
01:23:20.760 --> 01:23:23.680
the devil, wants is that he wants to shut you, up.

1502
01:23:25.079 --> 01:23:26.199
And god wants to heal.

1503
01:23:26.239 --> 01:23:29.279
You and and after all the, books Everything i've written

1504
01:23:29.399 --> 01:23:33.439
regarding all of, that those five, areas it's amazing that

1505
01:23:33.479 --> 01:23:36.279
the devil doesn't want to leave me alone because he

1506
01:23:36.279 --> 01:23:37.399
he knows who he's messing.

1507
01:23:37.520 --> 01:23:40.279
With, well he can't shut you.

1508
01:23:40.359 --> 01:23:43.880
Up it just gives me more fuel than my, fire you,

1509
01:23:43.920 --> 01:23:49.319
know BECAUSE i see people that are totally completely, devastated you,

1510
01:23:49.399 --> 01:23:52.800
know like WITH, ptsd all of a, sudden he gets LABELED.

1511
01:23:52.800 --> 01:23:58.680
Ptsd he's crippled and can't function and has accepted. That

1512
01:23:59.159 --> 01:24:01.800
And i'm, like WHEN i was diagnosed with, cancer for

1513
01:24:01.880 --> 01:24:05.079
a few MINUTES i accepted. It i'm, Like, okay put

1514
01:24:05.119 --> 01:24:07.119
some flowers in my. Hand i'm on the examining table

1515
01:24:07.319 --> 01:24:10.039
and just bury me and the girls had just lost

1516
01:24:10.079 --> 01:24:12.239
their dad because of divorce everything, else.

1517
01:24:12.479 --> 01:24:14.359
And i'm, like what AM i? Thinking?

1518
01:24:14.840 --> 01:24:18.079
BAM i literally whelped my. Face sometimes we need to

1519
01:24:18.079 --> 01:24:20.159
WELP R fivepole.

1520
01:24:20.279 --> 01:24:22.119
Ministry, bam right exactly.

1521
01:24:22.279 --> 01:24:24.439
Yes and it's, like, No i'm going to live and

1522
01:24:24.479 --> 01:24:26.560
not die and declare that works The lord. TODAY i

1523
01:24:26.680 --> 01:24:30.800
choose life. Today everybody that is listening to, us you

1524
01:24:31.079 --> 01:24:34.199
need to choose, life no matter what kind of circumstance

1525
01:24:34.239 --> 01:24:37.720
you're in. Today you choose life and watch What god will.

1526
01:24:37.760 --> 01:24:40.960
Do he will totally turn everything around for his.

1527
01:24:41.079 --> 01:24:42.880
Glory. Hollylujah.

1528
01:24:42.960 --> 01:24:45.279
Yeah you know when you talk about a broken, HEARTS

1529
01:24:45.439 --> 01:24:47.840
i mean this is a as you, say a temporary heart.

1530
01:24:47.880 --> 01:24:53.520
Condition i've never, heard uh in my life anybody referred to.

1531
01:24:53.560 --> 01:24:55.640
It but this is this is. Real this is a,

1532
01:24:55.680 --> 01:24:59.520
real a real. Condition is it more uh more buried

1533
01:24:59.600 --> 01:25:02.880
in the mental aspect or the spiritual aspect as opposed to?

1534
01:25:02.880 --> 01:25:04.880
It BECAUSE i even heard of a doctor, saying, well

1535
01:25:04.920 --> 01:25:05.760
you have broken heart.

1536
01:25:05.760 --> 01:25:09.600
Syndrome, right it's buried in the very core of your,

1537
01:25:09.640 --> 01:25:10.800
heart of your emotional.

1538
01:25:10.840 --> 01:25:11.079
Heart.

1539
01:25:11.359 --> 01:25:16.840
Okay and because of a traumatic. Event it could be a,

1540
01:25:16.960 --> 01:25:19.239
parent a loss of a, parent a, child things like,

1541
01:25:19.239 --> 01:25:23.159
that or. Divorce, okay my. Opinion i'll give you a

1542
01:25:23.199 --> 01:25:25.680
couple of examples. Here in my, opinion people that have

1543
01:25:25.760 --> 01:25:29.079
breast cancer have gone through an emotional family problem because

1544
01:25:29.119 --> 01:25:32.439
the breast represents the. Family AND i told, guys SO

1545
01:25:32.479 --> 01:25:33.880
i can live without a, breast BUT i can't live

1546
01:25:33.880 --> 01:25:36.640
with a broken. HEART i, went after getting my heart,

1547
01:25:36.680 --> 01:25:39.720
healed heart getting, healed went back to do the exam

1548
01:25:39.800 --> 01:25:42.880
to see what they recommended, medically and they, go we

1549
01:25:42.920 --> 01:25:45.560
can't find. It two hours, later they're looking all over the.

1550
01:25:45.560 --> 01:25:47.560
Place you, Know, wow what do you to do with?

1551
01:25:47.640 --> 01:25:49.439
Us AND i send it back to. Help BUT i

1552
01:25:49.600 --> 01:25:52.840
teach people how to starve your sickness to. Death you

1553
01:25:52.880 --> 01:25:56.199
can feed it with your. WORDS i know That i'm

1554
01:25:56.239 --> 01:25:58.000
going to GET. COVID i Know i'm going to get.

1555
01:25:58.039 --> 01:25:59.800
CANCER i Know i'm going to get. DIABEAT i, know

1556
01:26:00.119 --> 01:26:00.640
and you get.

1557
01:26:00.680 --> 01:26:02.239
It you're confessing. It life and.

1558
01:26:02.319 --> 01:26:03.600
Death that's are of your.

1559
01:26:03.680 --> 01:26:08.000
Tongue because we're made in the image Of. God, yes

1560
01:26:08.119 --> 01:26:11.319
he speaks things into, existence so we have that authority

1561
01:26:11.359 --> 01:26:11.920
to do right.

1562
01:26:12.119 --> 01:26:15.960
Right and my latest book is besides, this the one

1563
01:26:16.039 --> 01:26:19.439
right before this one Is frequencies Of, heaven and The

1564
01:26:19.479 --> 01:26:22.960
New age has tried to take frequencies where it's In genesis.

1565
01:26:22.960 --> 01:26:24.560
One so we're taking it.

1566
01:26:24.640 --> 01:26:28.359
Back And god formed the earth with his, frequency his.

1567
01:26:28.520 --> 01:26:33.119
Words you can change the atmosphere with your words and your. Frequencies,

1568
01:26:33.439 --> 01:26:37.800
okay it's an amazing teaching where that's. Concerned but back

1569
01:26:37.840 --> 01:26:41.119
to primarily to broken heart. Syndrome diagnose with.

1570
01:26:41.199 --> 01:26:41.880
That it's.

1571
01:26:41.920 --> 01:26:46.920
Incurable it is, healable but. Incurable no, medication no, therapy no. Nothing,

1572
01:26:47.039 --> 01:26:49.600
okay you have to learn to live with. It, okay

1573
01:26:50.199 --> 01:26:53.880
and just completely. Devastated AND i can go into my,

1574
01:26:54.000 --> 01:26:56.319
history BUT i don't necessarily need, to BUT i had, It.

1575
01:26:56.359 --> 01:26:58.359
Okay and you look.

1576
01:26:58.279 --> 01:27:04.199
At History christian, History Amy simple, McPherson Mariah Woodworth, edter

1577
01:27:04.920 --> 01:27:10.439
And Katherine cooleman all died of heart conditions and they're

1578
01:27:10.479 --> 01:27:15.560
all relating to emotional, trauma's, marriage, abuse in the, home,

1579
01:27:16.039 --> 01:27:19.720
heartache et. Cetera so if they were to be diagnosed,

1580
01:27:19.720 --> 01:27:22.800
today they would be diagnosed with broken heart syndrome and

1581
01:27:22.840 --> 01:27:23.279
it killed.

1582
01:27:23.319 --> 01:27:23.439
Them.

1583
01:27:24.119 --> 01:27:29.359
Okay Lisa Marie, presley she saw the. Movie elvis died

1584
01:27:29.399 --> 01:27:31.479
the next, day broken heart of.

1585
01:27:31.439 --> 01:27:34.600
What could have been with her. Dad and Then Debbie.

1586
01:27:34.680 --> 01:27:40.439
Reynolds Todd, Wie reynolds's son, said When carrie, Dies mom's

1587
01:27:40.479 --> 01:27:43.520
going to die right after, her because she has blamed

1588
01:27:43.640 --> 01:27:47.079
everything that happened In carrie's, life even at sixty. Five

1589
01:27:47.520 --> 01:27:52.000
carrie sixty, five, yes, Okay and she blamed her for her,

1590
01:27:52.039 --> 01:27:57.359
alcoholism her drug, abuse multiple, divorces et, cetera and absolutely horrific.

1591
01:27:57.439 --> 01:28:00.960
Life debbie blamed herself by not being a good enough.

1592
01:28:01.039 --> 01:28:06.159
Mother So carrie. Dies twenty two hours, Later debbie. Dies

1593
01:28:06.560 --> 01:28:11.199
diagnosis For debbie is broken heart. Syndrome it is more

1594
01:28:11.279 --> 01:28:14.560
predominant than you can. Imagine, now really.

1595
01:28:14.680 --> 01:28:16.840
Awesome see in the, news let me interrupt you for

1596
01:28:16.960 --> 01:28:19.279
just a second. Job and in the, news we didn't

1597
01:28:19.319 --> 01:28:23.039
hear That debbie had died of broken heart syndrome and.

1598
01:28:23.479 --> 01:28:26.600
On her death, certificate actually it is on Her, okay,

1599
01:28:27.079 --> 01:28:28.079
yeah that's on her death.

1600
01:28:28.079 --> 01:28:30.600
Certificate well why Didn't why didn't they bring that? Out

1601
01:28:30.680 --> 01:28:34.439
is it just thinks that they don't understand it OR i.

1602
01:28:34.399 --> 01:28:36.960
Heard it from the. News it just depends on what news.

1603
01:28:36.760 --> 01:28:40.399
You're you, know, right exactly, like what Is Debbie reynolds's

1604
01:28:40.439 --> 01:28:40.760
cause of?

1605
01:28:40.800 --> 01:28:41.560
Death broken heart?

1606
01:28:41.600 --> 01:28:45.800
Syndrome you, know AND i mean she blamed, everything everything

1607
01:28:45.800 --> 01:28:47.720
that bad that happened To kerry blamed it on. Her,

1608
01:28:48.159 --> 01:28:51.640
wow this is really awesome this next revelation.

1609
01:28:51.760 --> 01:28:53.880
Here i've been teaching this for a few.

1610
01:28:53.960 --> 01:28:57.920
Years the elogians are now backing up the revelation THAT i,

1611
01:28:57.960 --> 01:28:58.880
got which is really.

1612
01:28:58.960 --> 01:29:01.960
Awesome when that, Happens, okay, yes, now when.

1613
01:29:02.319 --> 01:29:04.479
Well we, know we know in part and we prophesy in.

1614
01:29:04.520 --> 01:29:05.159
Part that's what we.

1615
01:29:05.199 --> 01:29:07.760
Did jesus died on the cross for our. Sins he

1616
01:29:07.840 --> 01:29:10.119
became poor so we could be, rich you. Know he

1617
01:29:10.159 --> 01:29:11.760
took stripes on his back so we can get. Help

1618
01:29:11.760 --> 01:29:15.640
blah blah blah. Blah when they pierced his, side what came.

1619
01:29:15.479 --> 01:29:18.279
Out water butter and blood and blood.

1620
01:29:18.920 --> 01:29:24.239
Water broken heart syndrome is a form of inflammation of

1621
01:29:24.279 --> 01:29:29.479
the heart and can car congestive heart, failure which is

1622
01:29:29.920 --> 01:29:34.479
water fluid around the. Heart So jesus' official cause of

1623
01:29:34.520 --> 01:29:38.600
death was broken heart. Syndrome, Wow SO i don't have

1624
01:29:38.720 --> 01:29:40.439
to have, it AND i.

1625
01:29:40.479 --> 01:29:41.760
Don't isn't that?

1626
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Awesome, Well i'll tell you what you're opening something. Altogether

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there with a, Sign Bill, martine she's shown hunter Author

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01:34:00.119 --> 01:34:03.079
and CAN i say you're a? HEALER i MEAN i just,

1707
01:34:03.720 --> 01:34:05.000
THIS i work for the.

1708
01:34:05.039 --> 01:34:08.119
Healer, YEAH i mean you work for the healer and

1709
01:34:08.119 --> 01:34:10.960
The healing of. Ministry whatever but the. Healing but he

1710
01:34:11.079 --> 01:34:13.960
uses me in an incredible. Way in addition to, THAT

1711
01:34:14.199 --> 01:34:16.760
i trained people how they can do. It according To mark,

1712
01:34:16.800 --> 01:34:19.359
sixteen as, believers we're supposed to be doing it.

1713
01:34:19.840 --> 01:34:22.239
Right, Well jesus, said look at the Miracles i'm, Doing

1714
01:34:22.479 --> 01:34:25.840
you're going to do even, greater right? Right.

1715
01:34:25.920 --> 01:34:28.640
Okay so he never laid hands on anybody with fibrom.

1716
01:34:28.640 --> 01:34:31.560
Algia you, know just this last, WEEK i was In

1717
01:34:31.640 --> 01:34:35.840
iceland AND i had probably thirty people healed of. Fibromalgia,

1718
01:34:36.640 --> 01:34:40.199
wow it's, awesome which is brought on by, trauma, stress et.

1719
01:34:40.239 --> 01:34:45.800
Cetera so let's go back to the, Cross, Okay jesus hardest,

1720
01:34:45.800 --> 01:34:50.319
peers water and blood comes, out and you can see

1721
01:34:50.319 --> 01:34:53.920
where broken heart syndrome comes into place when you think

1722
01:34:53.960 --> 01:34:58.039
about his. HEART i, mean what a few days, before

1723
01:34:58.359 --> 01:35:02.279
day before he's Overlooked jerusalem and you get one of

1724
01:35:02.279 --> 01:35:05.439
the shortest sentences in The. Bible jesus wept.

1725
01:35:05.279 --> 01:35:08.520
Right, yeah and he was. So, NOW i was just

1726
01:35:08.640 --> 01:35:12.039
In israel literally three weeks. Ago, Okay i've been like

1727
01:35:12.239 --> 01:35:14.840
traveling all, over But i'm there in THE i get

1728
01:35:14.920 --> 01:35:19.640
privileges by going into the private garden Of gsemine and

1729
01:35:19.720 --> 01:35:22.239
we do an anointing service in a time of consecration.

1730
01:35:22.359 --> 01:35:25.319
There it's just really amazing for the tour that people

1731
01:35:25.319 --> 01:35:27.640
that go with. Me and he was in there and

1732
01:35:27.680 --> 01:35:32.439
he was crying once again as he Overlooked, jerusalem weeping

1733
01:35:33.239 --> 01:35:36.880
over the ones that would say he's not The, messiah

1734
01:35:37.479 --> 01:35:40.600
not weeping over us that got, saved weeping over those

1735
01:35:40.680 --> 01:35:45.600
because it broke his heart that they refused, him, right

1736
01:35:45.680 --> 01:35:49.439
and it still hurts his heart that they're still refusing.

1737
01:35:49.520 --> 01:35:52.000
Him the main question is Is jesus coming back for

1738
01:35:52.039 --> 01:35:54.520
the first time or the second? Time you, know that's

1739
01:35:54.560 --> 01:35:57.239
the main question over. There But god's moving on the

1740
01:35:57.239 --> 01:35:57.720
people over.

1741
01:35:57.760 --> 01:36:00.920
There it's just. Amazing but go in there and you

1742
01:36:00.960 --> 01:36:01.840
can feel.

1743
01:36:01.720 --> 01:36:06.760
The, anointing not the, pressure not the, agony but that

1744
01:36:06.840 --> 01:36:11.359
he was in so much agony that his pores blood even.

1745
01:36:11.159 --> 01:36:12.239
Came out of his pores.

1746
01:36:12.680 --> 01:36:15.319
Exactly that is, Anguish, yes what.

1747
01:36:15.479 --> 01:36:18.600
Is you, know talk about a spirit of? Intercession he

1748
01:36:18.760 --> 01:36:23.319
was like really really into it and interceding for, you.

1749
01:36:23.760 --> 01:36:27.319
Right And i'm glad you put that way because some people, think,

1750
01:36:27.560 --> 01:36:29.920
oh well he. Was he was so upset about what

1751
01:36:29.960 --> 01:36:32.439
he knew was was ahead in terms of dealing with

1752
01:36:32.479 --> 01:36:36.319
the cross AND i see it differently as. WELL i

1753
01:36:36.399 --> 01:36:39.680
see it for what it was is, that you, know

1754
01:36:39.960 --> 01:36:43.800
the children Of, israel you, know his chosen, people had

1755
01:36:43.840 --> 01:36:45.319
missed their appointed time.

1756
01:36:46.520 --> 01:36:48.039
And they could have accepted.

1757
01:36:48.119 --> 01:36:51.479
Him, wow the world would be completely, different to say the,

1758
01:36:51.560 --> 01:36:55.319
least you. Know but the point is is that the

1759
01:36:55.560 --> 01:36:59.520
enemy whatever blinded their eyes to the reality of Who

1760
01:36:59.600 --> 01:37:04.920
jesus is and was and. Is and it just, goes

1761
01:37:05.399 --> 01:37:07.840
what DID i do? Wrong why don't you believe?

1762
01:37:07.960 --> 01:37:08.039
Me?

1763
01:37:08.800 --> 01:37:10.640
Ah you?

1764
01:37:10.720 --> 01:37:14.560
Know and it wasn't just one person that rejected, him you,

1765
01:37:14.600 --> 01:37:18.560
Know and it was a whole nation that rejected.

1766
01:37:18.119 --> 01:37:22.479
Him, right you, Know, John as you, know our country

1767
01:37:22.520 --> 01:37:26.159
has gone through a devastating, loss our, country the, WORLD i,

1768
01:37:26.159 --> 01:37:32.199
say for that, Matter Charlie kirk's impact was, international which

1769
01:37:32.479 --> 01:37:34.600
a lot of PEOPLE i think we're surprised to see

1770
01:37:34.800 --> 01:37:37.359
how far. Reaching but this is.

1771
01:37:37.439 --> 01:37:41.800
The rippling effect of salvations and. Reviible it's all over the, world.

1772
01:37:42.359 --> 01:37:47.760
Right but in regard to broken heart, SYNDROME i believe

1773
01:37:47.840 --> 01:37:51.560
a lot of people are experiencing this AND i want

1774
01:37:51.640 --> 01:37:54.399
to give you an opportunity BECAUSE i just feel Like

1775
01:37:54.399 --> 01:37:58.800
i'm being called to do this to you, know encourage

1776
01:37:58.880 --> 01:38:03.319
those that may be, suffering you, know from this loss Of,

1777
01:38:03.439 --> 01:38:06.720
charlie Especially. ERICA i Think erica is you, KNOW i,

1778
01:38:06.800 --> 01:38:11.359
mean it was amazing how she has comported herself throughout

1779
01:38:11.359 --> 01:38:14.199
all this and even to the point, of you, know

1780
01:38:14.520 --> 01:38:18.199
telling the world that she had forgiven the alleged, shooter

1781
01:38:18.399 --> 01:38:21.199
the alleged murderer of her husband and the father of her.

1782
01:38:21.279 --> 01:38:25.439
CHILDREN i mean truly that that that came, from you,

1783
01:38:25.479 --> 01:38:27.560
know the throne room Of, god the grace to do.

1784
01:38:27.600 --> 01:38:27.680
That.

1785
01:38:27.880 --> 01:38:31.079
Right but So i've read like some things On.

1786
01:38:31.079 --> 01:38:36.199
Facebook my heart is, Broken, yes exactly what you're talking, about, Right.

1787
01:38:36.319 --> 01:38:39.479
SO i just feel LIKE i want you to address,

1788
01:38:39.560 --> 01:38:44.680
that you, know For, erica for anybody that is you,

1789
01:38:44.720 --> 01:38:48.079
know is their heart is. Aching it's broken over this

1790
01:38:48.239 --> 01:38:48.640
loss Of.

1791
01:38:48.760 --> 01:38:53.720
Charlie AND i think there was like forty fifty thousand

1792
01:38:53.800 --> 01:38:56.119
people in his memorial service this, Week well.

1793
01:38:55.960 --> 01:38:59.640
There was one hundred one hundred thousand because they filled

1794
01:38:59.840 --> 01:39:04.560
the stadium itself and another, arena and then of course

1795
01:39:04.560 --> 01:39:06.479
people people were turned away or they were out in

1796
01:39:06.520 --> 01:39:10.000
the parking, lot and then you had over one hundred million. Streaming.

1797
01:39:10.479 --> 01:39:13.399
WOW i hadn't even heard all. That, yeah that's a,

1798
01:39:13.479 --> 01:39:18.079
huge that's, Amazing And god once. Again here we Have genesis,

1799
01:39:18.079 --> 01:39:20.880
fifty verse. Twenty though the, enemy if you're evil to

1800
01:39:21.079 --> 01:39:23.600
shut him, up it is not shut him.

1801
01:39:23.680 --> 01:39:24.680
Up it's given him a.

1802
01:39:24.720 --> 01:39:28.920
Microphone even though he's, gone he's still speaking over, people

1803
01:39:29.279 --> 01:39:31.239
ministering to, people even in his.

1804
01:39:31.359 --> 01:39:36.720
Death, yes, exactly, well yeah, again the word Of god

1805
01:39:37.039 --> 01:39:40.199
is the same yesterday to day. Forever it still comes in.

1806
01:39:40.319 --> 01:39:44.239
Power and you know the enemy is probably, going, oh,

1807
01:39:44.239 --> 01:39:45.920
oh you know what what DID i?

1808
01:39:46.079 --> 01:39:49.840
Create, yes look what this is a BIG i made

1809
01:39:49.840 --> 01:39:53.439
a big. Mess that is what he. Says, right so you,

1810
01:39:53.479 --> 01:39:54.479
KNOW i mean we're we.

1811
01:39:54.399 --> 01:39:56.920
Win number, one because that's what The bible. Says but

1812
01:39:57.439 --> 01:40:00.680
in this, situation it's, like how Can god use? This you,

1813
01:40:00.720 --> 01:40:03.840
Know god will take anything bad and make it.

1814
01:40:03.880 --> 01:40:05.640
Good even though in the.

1815
01:40:05.520 --> 01:40:08.800
Midst of the devastation of, divorce breast, cancer you, know

1816
01:40:09.880 --> 01:40:14.079
broken heart. Syndrome you, know my life was a wreck financially.

1817
01:40:14.159 --> 01:40:17.479
Broke you, KNOW i was like so, POOR i couldn't

1818
01:40:17.479 --> 01:40:20.239
EVEN i call MYSELF o can't even afford the.

1819
01:40:20.239 --> 01:40:20.439
Brother.

1820
01:40:20.520 --> 01:40:23.399
Oh god has totally redeemed.

1821
01:40:22.960 --> 01:40:25.760
Every area of my. Life and that's what's so neat

1822
01:40:25.800 --> 01:40:28.159
in regards to this book that it will help you

1823
01:40:28.479 --> 01:40:32.439
literally walk out every devastation that you've ever experienced in your.

1824
01:40:32.479 --> 01:40:33.600
Life so that's.

1825
01:40:33.680 --> 01:40:35.920
Right put your hand on your, heart, father right, now

1826
01:40:35.920 --> 01:40:38.239
the name Of, gas we send the word of healing to.

1827
01:40:38.279 --> 01:40:40.600
Each person that is watching right.

1828
01:40:40.640 --> 01:40:42.560
Now in the name Of, gas we come against that

1829
01:40:42.640 --> 01:40:48.079
spirit of trauma and broken heart and just complete, devastation.

1830
01:40:48.359 --> 01:40:49.319
Like what are we going to do?

1831
01:40:49.359 --> 01:40:51.640
Now, Father we know that you know what we're going

1832
01:40:51.720 --> 01:40:53.880
to do, now and we thank you for opening that

1833
01:40:53.960 --> 01:40:57.359
world up with the pain that many people are experiencing

1834
01:40:57.439 --> 01:41:00.720
even though they never never even Heard charlie's speak except

1835
01:41:00.720 --> 01:41:04.000
for that one time when he was. Shot, father right

1836
01:41:04.039 --> 01:41:05.920
now in the image is if you have as you

1837
01:41:06.000 --> 01:41:09.680
have given compassion to those of us around the, world

1838
01:41:09.800 --> 01:41:12.840
not just in The United, states but around the world for,

1839
01:41:13.039 --> 01:41:17.239
him for his, family his, parents his, wife his, children

1840
01:41:17.319 --> 01:41:20.199
and soon to be a third. One So, father we

1841
01:41:20.279 --> 01:41:23.039
just thank you for touching their, hearts healing their. Hearts

1842
01:41:23.359 --> 01:41:27.600
you you know you heal the wounded. Heart And, FATHER

1843
01:41:27.680 --> 01:41:30.680
i thank you that you are healing our wounded hearts

1844
01:41:31.119 --> 01:41:34.239
and desperation in every area of our.

1845
01:41:34.279 --> 01:41:36.079
Lives And, father you are our.

1846
01:41:36.479 --> 01:41:39.359
Healer, Yes, father we just thank you for healing our

1847
01:41:39.399 --> 01:41:42.359
hearts now In jesus', Name, Amen.

1848
01:41:43.359 --> 01:41:45.640
John thank you for. That AND i know our audience

1849
01:41:46.079 --> 01:41:51.680
will be greatly. Blessed we serve a Good. God. HUH

1850
01:41:51.720 --> 01:41:55.239
i mean he loves us so. Much he doesn't want,

1851
01:41:55.359 --> 01:41:59.760
us you, know, uh dragging around an anchor of pain

1852
01:41:59.840 --> 01:42:05.199
and uh and. Constriction this is Why jesus came so we,

1853
01:42:05.319 --> 01:42:07.720
leave we could live. FREE i Mean charlie when he

1854
01:42:07.880 --> 01:42:12.359
was right and When charlie was, shot he had that

1855
01:42:12.439 --> 01:42:16.239
shirt you, know it had, freedom you. Know and, uh

1856
01:42:16.600 --> 01:42:19.399
this is Why jesus came to set you, know to

1857
01:42:19.479 --> 01:42:22.720
set the captives. Free, uh like The book Of isaiah

1858
01:42:22.880 --> 01:42:26.119
that he read that famous scripture, from you, know and

1859
01:42:26.159 --> 01:42:29.520
so uh you, know broken heart, syndrome as you as you,

1860
01:42:29.600 --> 01:42:33.239
noted is a temporary heart, condition, right.

1861
01:42:35.079 --> 01:42:37.960
Yes but it's a permanent one unless.

1862
01:42:37.600 --> 01:42:40.880
You get, healed yes right right, Right, yeah it's.

1863
01:42:41.199 --> 01:42:44.279
Temporary it was temporary to, me temporary to the different

1864
01:42:44.319 --> 01:42:47.880
people THAT i prayed, for but it is deadly yes.

1865
01:42:48.159 --> 01:42:51.439
Yeah but, again the deal is is that there is a.

1866
01:42:51.359 --> 01:42:56.920
Solution yes In jesus, name right, now if you choose

1867
01:42:56.960 --> 01:43:02.079
to exercise and believe in, that, yes and that is our,

1868
01:43:02.119 --> 01:43:05.520
prayer is that that you would believe that this suffering

1869
01:43:05.520 --> 01:43:08.399
that you've gone, Through god Will, god as he does

1870
01:43:08.439 --> 01:43:12.039
all the, time he always turns it on its, head

1871
01:43:12.399 --> 01:43:15.119
that which is, evil Because, god Because god is.

1872
01:43:15.199 --> 01:43:18.000
Life. Right, yes, yeah.

1873
01:43:18.399 --> 01:43:20.039
AMAZING i LOVE i love.

1874
01:43:20.079 --> 01:43:24.319
That it's just it's so empowering and, liberating you know

1875
01:43:24.319 --> 01:43:26.359
when you think about. That and the thing, is we

1876
01:43:26.439 --> 01:43:28.840
got a couple of minutes left, Here, joan the, stories

1877
01:43:28.920 --> 01:43:31.880
the testimonies that you get constantly from people as you

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go out and talk to, them we got a little

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bit of. Time can you share a couple of stories with?

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Us oh, GOSH i?

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CAN i have?

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Thousands? Okay number one me.

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Okay and then there are other people that like their mother,

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died and similar To carrie And, debbie but in, reverse

1885
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the mother died and it's, LIKE i can't live without,

1886
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her you, know And i'm just broken heartly because my mom.

1887
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Died and so you become engulfed in. That you SAY

1888
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i can't live without my. Mom it opens the door

1889
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up for broken, heart broken art, syndrome and. Death once,

1890
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again life and death is in the power of the.

1891
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Tongue you can start CONFESSING i can't live without my

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mother or a, spouse you, know a spouse dies and

1893
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you've been together for you, know, ten twenty, thirty fifty,

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years and it's.

1895
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Like Like Johnny cash And June carter right.

1896
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Right uh, Huh and it's LIKE i can't live without.

1897
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Him and then all of a, sudden the you, KNOW

1898
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i love you so, MUCH i can't live without, You Michael,

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bolton can't live living without. You that's a song of,

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death actually so. Romantic you, KNOW i love, you but

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you know what if sometimes You i'm going to keep.

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Living you're killing.

1903
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Me, yeah it's like, yeah and that's not that's not you,

1904
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know really good for the spouse to.

1905
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Hear you, know it's, like But i'm going to live.

1906
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Anyway but the point is is that we can succumb

1907
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to it and come into agreement with the that that,

1908
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pain that, trauma it's killing. Me you, know you, KNOW

1909
01:44:58.079 --> 01:45:01.479
i can't fix my. Husband it's killed, me and it's

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actually killing. Them and these are ways that you. Know,

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anyway long story short IS i have people repent for

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saying that and cut those words off In jesus, name

1913
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and then they're going to live and not die and

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declare the words of The. Lord but the point is

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is that people that come in literally with broken. HEARTS

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i was praying with a lady the other day and she,

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SAYS i have broken. HEART i have a broken, heart

1918
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and you, know AND i have my fiance is so

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01:45:30.479 --> 01:45:32.640
abusive to me and it's hurting.

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01:45:32.680 --> 01:45:33.920
Me BUT i can't.

1921
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Leave And i'm, like yeah you, can, okay if he's killing.

1922
01:45:38.039 --> 01:45:39.920
You, physically think about.

1923
01:45:39.960 --> 01:45:42.800
That and her mama died two weeks, before so she

1924
01:45:43.000 --> 01:45:45.560
was like a. Wreck BUT i, mean she comes, IN

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01:45:45.920 --> 01:45:49.159
i pray she gets a face, lift AND i, said

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01:45:49.239 --> 01:45:51.560
with your, fiance you need to set.

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Boundaries don't treat me like.

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This, yes, Okay AND i pray for her to get

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healed in any grief and you, know sorrow with. Mom

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and it was just like a light bulb went on

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on the inside of, her the shame shoulders going, forward head.

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Down beautiful, WOMAN i mean beautiful and she just like

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whoa came back to. Life it was absolutely. Amazing how

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