Sept. 24, 2025

The Bill Martinez Show 09 24 25

The Bill Martinez Show 09 24 25
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The Bill Martinez Show 09 24 25
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Are you ready?

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Yeah, Okay, let's do it.

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Ill Martinez Live a program about current events, our culture,

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our values, our politics, and our future.

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And now Bill Martinez.

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Well, good morning America. Bill Martinez here. Great to have

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you with us. It's just about six minutes after the

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top of the hour. We've got Horace Cooper, nationally recognized

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legal commentator at Young fellow with the National Center for

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Public Policy Research, co chair of the Project twenty one

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National Advisory Board, and also, of course author. Did I

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mention that we'll talk more about that in just a moment, Horace,

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Good morning to you.

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Good morning, It's always great to come on the program.

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Well, Charlie Kirk, he believed in God, America and our constitution, Horace,

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and for that the left, you know, radicals on the left,

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believe that they had to take him out.

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I guess you know you and I have talked about

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this quite often. Our founder's premised America as a place where,

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instead of the King issuing an edict that we had

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to comply with, each and every citizen's job was to

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persuade each and every other citizen's job. We have a

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First Amendment precisely because we wanted to give the space

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for persuasion. Charlie Kirk embodied this idea, But there are

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many on the left who do not believe in persuasion.

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And you say, well, Cooper, you're exaggerating. Think back to

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COVID right if you dissented. Instead of saying, oh, why

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don't you show up here at the university, or why

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don't we find some place in New York City where

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we can debate it. It's if you're a doctor, we're

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gonna throw to take away your licensing authority. If you're

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not a doctor but some other kind of prominent person,

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we're gonnadox you and get your employer to fire you.

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In fact, there was no space for conversation exact and

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as a consequence of no space up for conversation, millions

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and millions and millions of Americans concluded, Oh, I know

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the dirty little secret. This is dangerous.

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Yes.

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My point is our founders intended for conversation to lead

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to persuasion. Charlie Kirk embodied this and his assassin, and

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too many people on the left believe I'm not gonna

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respond with a great argument, I am instead going to

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silence you. That is not the American way.

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Everything about our Constitution is you certainly are aware. I mean,

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you've forgotten more about the Constitution than I'll ever learn

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as a constitutional professor in that and as an attorney

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who believes in the Constitution. Everything about it is, it

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has its pace and its heartbeat. There isn't you know.

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It's not one of those documents that is based on expediency, right.

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I mean, we've got to process these things, and particularly

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our First Amendment, right. And I think that over the

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years we've kind of lost context about how this process

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should be vetted out, especially with the left as they

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get more and more impatient, and you know, if you

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don't agree with them, yes, they're going to dox you

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and or worse yet, they'll just take you out.

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And one of the things that has been most troubling

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about our American system has been the pushed by the

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left to turn what the founders intended, that there is

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all of this space that is for you and I

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to operate free from government restraint to what is now

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a limited amount of space for us to operate and

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the government to do everything else. And Charlie Kirk was

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showing us that you know what, you and I can

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be trusted that's right. Excuse me, I'm not telling people

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not to take a vaccine. I am telling people that

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it's a decision that they should be free to make.

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You use your best judgment. In the state of Texas

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where I am, if you want to ride a motorcycle

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and you don't want to put a helmet on, that's

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a decision that you have the space and freedom to make.

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What the left did and what they have done with

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so many areas is there is no discussion. You will

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do this or you will be punished. Now, when I'm

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driving down the road, I don't have a motorcycle. Guess

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what I see lots of people wearing their helmet. It's

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not because they're required to, It's because they've made a

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choice exactly. Charlie Kirk was trying to help us as

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a nation understand this important and critical point. And it

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was through his efforts and those of advocates of free

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speech and many people in the federalist society and conservative

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judges that were reversing the idea government is not the

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first answer. Our personal space ought to be the first answer.

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And then we move up where we start with local,

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we go to state, and then we go to federal

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We absolutely need to continue along this journey exactly. One

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big beautiful bill helped us to get into that direction.

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But there's still a lot more work to do.

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Yeah, without a doubt. You know you talk about that

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personal space, and Horace, I'm glad you brought this up

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because in that personal space, I believe that's where our

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God given freedoms lie.

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Do they not?

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Amen? Absolutely? And I you know, I'm a big advocate

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of capital punishment. I believe that there are certain crimes

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for which there must be a price paid. But I

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have always believed that before you go, you the accused,

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we send in the faith representative of your choice to

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let you get right with your creator. What's happening here

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has come to an end, but I still want to

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give you And if I'm willing to do that for

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the most dastardly accused, how much more so should our

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society do that for you in your day to day life.

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Your employer. There was a time where your employer couldn't

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tell you to take off the cross around us that's

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on a chain around you. Right now you have to

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go into court and sue to force your employer to

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let you do this. The space the personal space is

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intricately related to faith, and one of the things that

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Charlie Kirk led with was faith and the importance of

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faith and how faith, particularly as found and described in

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the New Testament, provides an amazing pathway for joy, happiness

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and success in your life.

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Is it not the predicate of our constitution? Horse Well?

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Absolutely. Our founders believed that it was essential that we

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had people with morals who were going to make the decisions.

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And in fact, again I can use COVID, but there

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are other instances where it's obvious that people aren't using morals.

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I don't mean to say this in a cruel way,

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and I will try to say this in the kindest

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way possible. The homosexual lifestyle isn't just an immral choice.

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It's a harmful choice for the individual. We are increasingly

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seeing data that shows that there are psychological consequences that

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are Socialdate it with this. If you can't speak freely

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to warn people about these kinds of things, you curse

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them to life that is unhappy and is miserable and

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leads to the lack or loss of joy.

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We've got to go to a quick break. We've got

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more from Horace Cooper. After this stay with us.

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Welcome back Bill Martinez here along with Tooris Scooper, the

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constitutional former law professor and recognize legal commentator Well Horace

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to kind of wrap and summarize this incredible memorial. I mean,

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when was the last time you saw so many people

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of faith and not even a faith at a church

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service that lasted over four hours.

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I'm telling you, the prison worship service was unbelievable. It

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was amazing. You couldn't watch this and not be touched.

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And then when speakers came, every single one, it was

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I don't want to minimize this, but it was like

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going to one of the most amazing restaurants ever to

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be experienced, and the first course comes out and you're like, oh,

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this is wonderful. The second course comes up, this is better,

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and it just kept getting to be more amazing. The

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cellar of the loss of the life of a martyr

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for faith and for freedom, sends the signal about just

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how important what he was doing was.

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I mean it's estimated, you know, somewhere of one hundred

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million views. I think the numbers are still coming in.

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not only here in this country, but oversees how many

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people viewed this. And you know the bottom line, I

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mean this is this was Charlie's heart. You know, he

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wanted to be known, as he said before he died,

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that he wanted to be known for his faith. Well,

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I mean here it is that his memorial. You have

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Jesus high and lifted up too. You know, to the

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world horace.

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It was meant for evil, but God uses it for good.

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I think we're on the cusp of a revival. It's

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time for revival number three to come across America. Even today,

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the result in consequence of the revivals that happened seventy

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five years ago, one hundred and fifty years ago, those

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have a residual effect that they have imbued in all

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of society. The kinds of principles that are operational in America.

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of the reasons why we're so compassionate, one of the

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reasons why we are so moral is because of those

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and I welcome a third round of it.

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Charles Finny said, a revival happens when it's most needed.

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And I couldn't think of a better time. And what

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an additional bonus to the legacy of Charlie Kirk being

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the one that got the bull ball rolling on this.

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And my caution to the churches out there is please,

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in Jesus' name, get your acts together, I mean, hold

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to the word of God, be prepared. Do not allow

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what happened in nine to eleven. If you recall, there

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was a resurgence for people going back to church in

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nine to eleven, and I believe the church really dropped

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the ball their horace, you know, because that was another,

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you know, benchmark and monumental time that happened in our

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country when people started looking to the spiritual and I

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became critical of the church because I believe that they

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dropped the ball. In my prayer is that the church

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would be prepared to, especially in light of what we're

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hearing about branding and the consistency, and how important that

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is is that the branding of the Christian Church Jesus

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Church would just get in line with the heartbeat of

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our Lord and Savior and welcome all these new people,

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you know, looking for the truth.

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If our existing structures aren't willing to call out to God,

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acknowledge Him and help our people who desperately need God,

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stones will cry out and step up in its place.

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I'm confident that what is coming is an amazing push

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by our almighty Creator. Now, you know, in the Old Testament,

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when Sodom and Gomorrah were on the cusp of being destroyed,

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a biblical principle was outlined when Abraham says to the Lord,

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what if there are x many people that were willing

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to be called out to you, would you hold back?

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And guess what? The Lord said, yes, yes. Abraham said,

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well what if we had a funeral bless The Lord

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said yes. That principle is still in place, and America

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and this planet continue to be a place where there's

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just a residual that will hold back. And if this

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revival comes, who knows how long we could go again?

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Where the curse that so many of us so many

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of us, I'm including myself in this, have richly earned

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will be delayed so that what the mighty work that

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God wants to do can carry out.

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And please know that what happens with the Revival, what

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we've seen before, it's not all roses and rainbows here

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and everything becomes a perfect world. Its sweets, centaires. You're

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going to have good and evil cohabitating in the midst

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of this. It's just you're going to be more aware

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of good, you know, for a period of time, and

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what you choose to do with it is your choice, right.

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Oh, absolutely absolutely. I do want us, though, to restore

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our country to a place. The church that I attend

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was recently broken into, and some of our electronic equipment

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was stolen when my grandmother was a young woman. No

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one would dare think I've got an idea. I'm greedy,

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I'm evil, I'm going to break into the church. I

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want us to return to a world where people recognize

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the things of God are off limits for those It's

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not that there is no longer anymore sin, It's not

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that there is no longer anymore evil, but there is

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a clear recognition right now we live in what is

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obviously a post Christian society. But there is a possibility

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that if this revival is powerful enough, and it is

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strong enough, that we could become a Christian society, not

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that everybody must be Christian, but that the operational idea

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about behavior is that it's measured by its fidelity to faith,

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not by its fidelity to Satan's number one rule. Whatever

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makes happy, you can just do.

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Well, that we would rediscover our moral compass. As John

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Adams said that our Constitution was designed for a moral

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and religious people. And you know, we're hard pressed to

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support the Constitution, and this has been part of the

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problem for us, as you're well aware, the Constitution has

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been cracking because we've moved away from God and we've

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lost our moral direction.

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Yeah. Absolutely, it is the job of Christians to look

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out for their brother and sister, to say who is

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my name? What the left has decided is it's not

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the job of you and I to do this, it's

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the job of government to do this right, and government

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has done it in the most cruel way possible. I

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wouldn't wish criminals in the public housing that the left

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has created. I wouldn't put enemies in the public schools

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that government has created. The whole system where the government

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has seek sought to displace the church has substituted for

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a far more inferior and cruel alternative to people. Only

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an entity that hates mankind would really think up these

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kinds of things.

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Well, and this is why we have to tap down

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this socialism that's rising in our country. It is anti government,

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as you and I know it. It's anti God, it's

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anti we the people. We got a minute left. I'm

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going to let you summarize and take us out.

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Orse Cooper Charlie Kirk stood for this idea that each

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and every one of us should join in to a

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discussion where we start with faith and we advocate freedom

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and we use persuasion. Sometimes that means that we need

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to read our Bible a little more. Sometimes that means

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that we need to read our history books a little more.

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Sometimes that means that we need to put aside our

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embarrassment and speak in public and talk about the truths

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that really have made this country so exceptional. He's a

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martyr for faith and freedom, and it is my hope that,

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like Stephen, we will see people stand up in his

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place and rise up a small group of believers ended

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up allowing the entire planet in less than a couple

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centuries to be exposed to the faith, to the point

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where it is really really hard to find any person

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who has never heard about the Great and Wonderful Savior

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Jesus Amen.

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He's a former constitutional law professor, recognized legal commentator and author.

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Jenny Beth Martin from the Team Party Patriots Action. Jenny Beth,

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good morning.

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Good morning Bill.

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It's so good to be with you.

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Well, it's great to be with you to talk about hope.

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I mean, we were greatly inspired on Sunday. Certainly, nothing

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like a funeral service more like a celebration of life

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and a vision, you know, to continue on with the

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mission of one Charlie Kirk.

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That is exactly right.

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I was there on Sunday and it was an amazing

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service with an amazing tribute to Charlie Kirk's life, to

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his legacy and to his memory.

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It was it was a you're right, It was a

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celebration of life.

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It was a little bit memorial service and a little

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bit political rally kind of mixed mixed together.

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There Rob McCoy, who.

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Was the minister who spoke at the at the end

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of the worship service, at the beginning of the rest

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of the program, he had essentially an ultra call, a

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stay in your seat, stand up kind of ultra call,

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and many people stood up saying that they.

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Accepted Christ for the first time in their lives. That

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was pretty powerful.

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I took a video of that because I wanted to

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be able to remember that that is a tribute to

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how many people Charlie Kirk is affecting.

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And bringing to Christianity and to Christ. And then Erica

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kirk Man her speech.

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I had been praying that she would be able to

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do that, that she would be able to forgive him.

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When I read and saw.

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The accused get arrested, I told a couple of people

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on my team I had to find a way to

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forgive him, because if I didn't, I was going to

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be consumed and filled with hate.

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And I prayed she would be able to do that.

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I didn't pray she would be able to do that

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at his memorial service. I just prayed for her own

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sake and her children's sake she would be able to

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It's very hard to do, and she did it and

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faithful obedience to God. And that's what Charlie Kirk tried

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to do. He tried to live his life and faithful

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obedience to what God called him.

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To do exactly. Well, yeah, I like you. I mean,

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I thought this is going to take some time. And

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I was blessedly shocked, if I can put those words together,

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you know, when she did, because it was so touching.

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I mean, and think about it, Jenny Beth. I mean,

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you had two hundred thousand people there filling both stadiums, right,

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and there were people outside as well. I mean, and

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then you had online one hundred million people online hearing

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Erica say I forgive him, and it was so heartfelt.

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I mean again, the whole expression, the natural expression and

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celebration of Charlie Kirk's life stood in contrast, unfortunately, to

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too many in our country. We're sorry they're there right now.

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We're sorry they're in a sense dispossessed from the truth

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of God. And Charlie felt that, and that was his

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passion to go and talk, particularly to the young kids

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that he felt that he could redeem, He could help

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redeem them.

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That is right, and Bill, you know, I think that

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those of us who are listening right now, one of

485
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the things that we are called to do that we

486
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need to obey Christ's calling. We have to pray for

487
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those who curse us, for those who persecute us, pray

488
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for our enemies. And it's hard sometimes to do that,

489
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but it's what we are commanded to do, and more importantly,

490
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it's what Jesus.

491
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Taught us to do in the Lord's prayer.

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Forgive us our sins, as we forgive those who sinned

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against others. My dad's a minister, and he taught me

494
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to say sin instead of trespassed when I was five

495
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because of my lisp.

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And it's always what I've.

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Said, but it and some versions. I think the New

498
00:31:10.160 --> 00:31:15.200
Living Translation uses that. But the importance the important Though

499
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you call it debts, trespasses, sins, it's the same thing.

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We have to forgive those who do wrong to us,

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because God is forgiving our sins, and we don't forgive

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them for their sake.

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We're not forgiving them for their sake. We're forgiving them

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for our sake. And it is very hard to do

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that when you've been wronged, especially when you've been wronged.

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Physically or someone you love has been wronged physically. But

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it's important to be able to do that. Now, that

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is a Christian thing to do. What we also saw

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in this memorial was the government, the United States government speaking.

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We had the President of the United States, we had

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members of the cabinet, we'd elected officials and others in

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the administer. They spoke as Christians. They also spoke on

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behalf of the government. And the government's job is to

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punish and to judge and to render justice. And so

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those aren't in conflict because both have to happen.

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Give un to Caesar, what is Caesar? Give under the Lord?

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What is the Lord's But.

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I thought one of the interesting the interesting things was

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when Donald Trump, He's right, he must help seek justice for.

520
00:32:31.880 --> 00:32:34.279
The assassination of Charlie Kirk.

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That is his role and his responsibility and the role

522
00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:38.519
of all those in.

523
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The government, not just his alone.

524
00:32:41.119 --> 00:32:44.759
But he also talked about his own struggle as a

525
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human with being able to let go of those who

526
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wrong him and he doesn't like his enemies.

527
00:32:50.599 --> 00:32:52.960
Well, forgiving your enemies it's different than liking them.

528
00:32:53.079 --> 00:32:56.440
Jesus Sem say you had to go have a dinner

529
00:32:56.480 --> 00:32:58.839
party with him, He said, just forgive them.

530
00:32:58.759 --> 00:33:02.799
Right exactly. Yeah, it's you know, interesting that you would

531
00:33:02.839 --> 00:33:06.440
bring this up because long ago I had this sense

532
00:33:06.519 --> 00:33:09.400
of in dealing with this, because we all do. I mean,

533
00:33:09.440 --> 00:33:11.960
that's just life experience. You deal you deal with this,

534
00:33:12.519 --> 00:33:15.119
And it was like I felt like God was saying,

535
00:33:15.160 --> 00:33:17.359
you don't want to get it on you. Is that

536
00:33:17.480 --> 00:33:20.720
if you don't forgive the sin, it's like you're sharing

537
00:33:20.759 --> 00:33:23.319
in it with the other person. Your way to kind

538
00:33:23.319 --> 00:33:28.039
of liberate yourself from that is to forgive them as

539
00:33:28.119 --> 00:33:31.279
much as we can, you know, as humanoids, because really

540
00:33:31.319 --> 00:33:34.599
God is the one truly who can forgive. But don't

541
00:33:35.000 --> 00:33:39.160
drag it along like some albatross. And experientially and I'm

542
00:33:39.200 --> 00:33:41.960
sure for you as well, when we've been effective in

543
00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:44.519
doing that by the grace of God, not in our

544
00:33:44.519 --> 00:33:47.640
own power. Because you say, naturally, that's that's hard to do.

545
00:33:47.960 --> 00:33:52.480
That's honest. But when we have those moments of glory

546
00:33:52.519 --> 00:33:55.039
where we do and we're able to obey God and

547
00:33:55.079 --> 00:33:59.599
do what God does, it's like, Oh, it's it's liberating,

548
00:33:59.680 --> 00:34:00.599
isn't it.

549
00:34:00.599 --> 00:34:05.400
It is liberating? Bill, I went through This isn't new

550
00:34:05.440 --> 00:34:07.319
to those who've listened for a while. I went through

551
00:34:08.119 --> 00:34:12.199
personal financial laws. I had to go through bankruptcy. My

552
00:34:12.920 --> 00:34:17.760
now ex then husband's business failed and his business partner.

553
00:34:17.440 --> 00:34:19.079
Did some things that were wrong.

554
00:34:19.320 --> 00:34:21.599
When it was going through that, a man spoke to

555
00:34:21.639 --> 00:34:24.519
me who came over and maybe brought dinner to me

556
00:34:24.639 --> 00:34:25.559
or just was helping out.

557
00:34:25.599 --> 00:34:27.079
I don't remember what he's doing to do is at

558
00:34:27.079 --> 00:34:27.480
my house.

559
00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:31.320
He's actually a recovering alcoholic and has been for a while.

560
00:34:31.400 --> 00:34:33.920
And I knew him when he was still drinking a lot,

561
00:34:33.960 --> 00:34:36.719
and then when he wasn't, And he said, you have

562
00:34:36.840 --> 00:34:40.760
to remember that the Lord's prayiss give us this day

563
00:34:40.760 --> 00:34:43.599
our daily bread, not our five year, not our ten year,

564
00:34:43.679 --> 00:34:46.480
not our twenty twenty eight, not our fiftieth anniversary bread,

565
00:34:46.480 --> 00:34:49.679
but our daily bread, meaning God's going to provide for

566
00:34:49.760 --> 00:34:50.760
you day by day.

567
00:34:51.000 --> 00:34:51.840
You can make.

568
00:34:51.679 --> 00:34:55.320
Plans, but what God promises is He's going to take

569
00:34:55.360 --> 00:34:58.039
care of you day by day. And then he also said,

570
00:34:58.119 --> 00:35:00.679
you have to be able to forgive, and you have

571
00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:04.039
to pray for those who who wronged you, and he

572
00:35:04.440 --> 00:35:08.440
highlighted the point I just mentioned before from the Lord's Prayer.

573
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I'm the daughter of a Methodist minister. I grew up

574
00:35:14.199 --> 00:35:19.360
the Lord's prayers of first prayer, taught my children that

575
00:35:20.039 --> 00:35:22.280
maybe not the first prayer, but certainly one of the first.

576
00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:23.880
But hearing it from.

577
00:35:23.719 --> 00:35:30.519
Him in the midst of extremely different difficult times change

578
00:35:30.760 --> 00:35:32.719
how I think of the Lord's Prayer.

579
00:35:32.760 --> 00:35:34.280
And I say it almost daily.

580
00:35:34.599 --> 00:35:34.760
Now.

581
00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:36.280
I wish I could say I say it every day,

582
00:35:36.280 --> 00:35:38.679
but I don't. But I say it almost daily, and

583
00:35:38.719 --> 00:35:41.400
it gives me such a different perspective about how to

584
00:35:41.480 --> 00:35:43.320
pray and how to live life.

585
00:35:43.400 --> 00:35:45.360
It doesn't mean we don't get up and fight.

586
00:35:45.159 --> 00:35:51.159
Those who whose opinions we oppose, because we're trying to

587
00:35:51.639 --> 00:35:54.719
work for what's best for our country. But you can

588
00:35:54.840 --> 00:35:59.920
fight those whose opinions you oppose without dehumanizing them. Without

589
00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:03.079
well forgetting that they also are humans, also are our

590
00:36:03.119 --> 00:36:07.079
fellow Americans, and we can love and respect them as

591
00:36:07.079 --> 00:36:12.199
fellow Americans and as fellow human beings while also fighting

592
00:36:12.639 --> 00:36:15.400
for what we believe in because we think it's a

593
00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:16.639
better way for our country to.

594
00:36:17.679 --> 00:36:20.400
Be, and it's a better way for our enemies.

595
00:36:20.960 --> 00:36:21.360
It is.

596
00:36:21.599 --> 00:36:24.480
That's why Jesus could say, forgive them, Father, for they

597
00:36:24.519 --> 00:36:27.519
know not what they're doing. They're just not aware. And

598
00:36:28.559 --> 00:36:31.400
this is the opportunity we have right now. Charlie went

599
00:36:31.400 --> 00:36:34.039
to the campus as he understood they weren't aware, so

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00:36:34.119 --> 00:36:35.920
he brought the truth of God. And this is what

601
00:36:35.960 --> 00:36:38.119
we have on our side, is we have the truth

602
00:36:38.159 --> 00:36:40.920
of God that gives us the boldness and the courage

603
00:36:40.960 --> 00:36:43.320
to speak out. We're not doing it for ourselves and

604
00:36:43.360 --> 00:36:46.199
our own ego, God forbid, We're doing it for our

605
00:36:46.239 --> 00:36:48.840
fellow man that we want the best for them. And yes,

606
00:36:48.920 --> 00:36:52.280
guess what, they can go and be evil and participate

607
00:36:52.320 --> 00:36:54.719
with evil and take you out, because that is this

608
00:36:54.920 --> 00:36:56.840
nature of the fallen world in which we live in

609
00:36:56.960 --> 00:36:59.800
right now. Jenny Beth, again, thank you so much for

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00:36:59.840 --> 00:37:03.519
being on. Thank you for sharing your experience there, because

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I'm sure we could probably be talking for hours about

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00:37:06.159 --> 00:37:09.079
all that went on, But Jenny Beth Martin from the

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Tea Party Patriots Action remind everybody where they can go

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for more information.

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Jennybeth, I'm on social media at Jenny Beth m as

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Andre Barnes from HBUSA. Always good to have him with us.

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And I hope I'm I'm saying that right. It's HBCU,

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not hb USA. HBCU. Sorry about that, Andre, Thank you,

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Hey, Well he is the HBCU Engagement Director. Let's get

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the official title in there as well, Andre. The Senate

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Judiciary Committee pulled up some more details, pulled back the

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curtain on the Biden border crisis and the ongoing un

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ACCOM Need Miners crisis. Break it down for our audience.

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Tell them what they saw, well, what they found was

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that there's an ongoing problem. During the abiding administration, there

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were five hundred thousand UACs uncompanied miners.

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They came how much five hundred thousand, five hundred thousand.

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It was because we were told three hundred thousand, I

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think last year, and then they revised it after the

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first of the year. It became four hundred thousand. Now

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we're up to five hundred thousand.

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It's now up to five hundred thousand. And here here's

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just some additional facts. A lot of them were sent

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to homes that weren't vetted. Over eleven thousand were placed

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in homes that weren't vetted. There were some that were

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calling to say that they needed help, and sixty five

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thousand of those messages were left were unanswered. So it

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has become a mess. And part of the problem is

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built is that they're not allowing the law to work

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itself out. They're not allowing us to get rid of

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the loopholes that are allowing the cartels to bring these

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children here in the first place. If we have children

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that are coming from Canada and Mexico, we have laws

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in place and relationships in place to quickly return them

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back home.

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Exactly.

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We don't have those agreements with people coming across the

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border from all over the world, so it takes more

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time to send them back.

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And this was the problem.

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So once they were getting here, they were staying here.

722
00:43:42.480 --> 00:43:45.000
And they're still here, and we're still dealing with the

723
00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:46.719
brunt of that issue.

724
00:43:46.920 --> 00:43:49.360
And worship. We don't know where they're at, we don't

725
00:43:49.440 --> 00:43:53.000
and who is holding them in custody. And meanwhile, because

726
00:43:53.320 --> 00:43:57.400
you've got this trumped arrangement syndrome going on, because the

727
00:43:57.599 --> 00:44:01.679
Trump administration is trying to resolve this, you get people

728
00:44:01.800 --> 00:44:04.440
that are putting a stick in the spokes here for

729
00:44:04.559 --> 00:44:08.599
the solutions. You know, whether it's you know, judges right,

730
00:44:08.800 --> 00:44:12.800
judges are interfering. You got political interests that are interfering.

731
00:44:12.840 --> 00:44:15.199
You going, wait a minute, we're talking about young people here.

732
00:44:15.639 --> 00:44:18.599
I mean, I remember seeing AOC outside of the chain

733
00:44:18.719 --> 00:44:21.639
link fence there. Remember she was crying and you know,

734
00:44:21.760 --> 00:44:24.239
and so upset about the children. Where is she now?

735
00:44:25.079 --> 00:44:26.480
Exactly where is she now?

736
00:44:26.880 --> 00:44:30.239
And where was the Biden administration where they were supposed

737
00:44:30.280 --> 00:44:34.599
to do eighty thousand in home inspections, they didn't do them.

738
00:44:34.880 --> 00:44:37.719
They didn't check the messages that were on the phone.

739
00:44:38.039 --> 00:44:40.639
It's basically willful.

740
00:44:41.639 --> 00:44:42.119
Ignorance.

741
00:44:42.480 --> 00:44:48.440
Here they are not doing their due diligence. And here's

742
00:44:48.480 --> 00:44:51.880
a couple of stories. You have twelve year olds and

743
00:44:52.079 --> 00:44:57.840
thirteen year olds working in meat factories and Hyundai and

744
00:44:58.519 --> 00:45:00.199
Kia plants.

745
00:45:00.840 --> 00:45:04.239
So even in corporate plants like that, you're talking in

746
00:45:04.320 --> 00:45:06.559
the corporate plans. Wow, that's.

747
00:45:08.239 --> 00:45:14.119
We have a government official who was tasked with reviewing

748
00:45:14.199 --> 00:45:18.079
what was going on with these children, and he mentioned

749
00:45:18.079 --> 00:45:20.639
a story about the twelve year old and the thirteen

750
00:45:20.719 --> 00:45:23.280
year old that he found in the plants. He mentioned

751
00:45:23.679 --> 00:45:29.159
that there were children seventeen and fourteen that were being

752
00:45:29.280 --> 00:45:32.320
molested by people that said that they were family members.

753
00:45:33.320 --> 00:45:36.639
It was fraud and they found a lot of fraud

754
00:45:36.800 --> 00:45:40.679
within this program. They said that seventy they had evidence

755
00:45:40.719 --> 00:45:44.599
that seventy percent of these cases where they were sending

756
00:45:45.599 --> 00:45:47.519
these children were fraud cases.

757
00:45:48.480 --> 00:45:51.519
Andre think just how massive it must be that it

758
00:45:51.599 --> 00:45:56.000
could be that blatant that in these corporate buildings and operations,

759
00:45:56.360 --> 00:45:59.920
as you mentioned that, you would have underage kids being

760
00:46:00.119 --> 00:46:03.119
abused like this, And how long has this been going on?

761
00:46:03.719 --> 00:46:05.840
You know, regardless of the length of time, the fact

762
00:46:05.880 --> 00:46:08.920
that it's happening, you know, We're not talking down in Mexico.

763
00:46:09.000 --> 00:46:12.360
We're talking here in the United States of America. But

764
00:46:12.440 --> 00:46:14.320
I guess you're not supposed to be upset by that

765
00:46:14.599 --> 00:46:19.840
because you've got all these pro immigration individuals that want

766
00:46:19.880 --> 00:46:23.719
to ignore that, and maybe they figure, well, you know,

767
00:46:23.840 --> 00:46:26.119
these young kids, they'll get over it, they'll grow up,

768
00:46:26.239 --> 00:46:29.519
and you know, I mean, they have no idea what

769
00:46:29.719 --> 00:46:32.480
kind of PTSD these kids will be dealing with where

770
00:46:32.519 --> 00:46:34.519
the rest of their lives as a result of this

771
00:46:34.679 --> 00:46:36.159
kind of depravity.

772
00:46:36.280 --> 00:46:41.239
Exactly, And it's happening at all levels. You have government

773
00:46:41.480 --> 00:46:44.679
officials that are looking the other way. You have school

774
00:46:44.760 --> 00:46:48.440
administrators that are looking the other way because in their minds,

775
00:46:48.719 --> 00:46:51.320
when they see the child labor, they're thinking to themselves, well,

776
00:46:51.599 --> 00:46:54.440
they're probably in a better off situation than if they

777
00:46:54.480 --> 00:46:56.840
were to go back to their home country, which is

778
00:46:56.960 --> 00:47:01.280
totally wrong, Which is totally wrong. I do think that

779
00:47:01.880 --> 00:47:06.519
people that are looking the other way need to take responsibility,

780
00:47:06.679 --> 00:47:09.599
and if it's proven that they look the other way,

781
00:47:09.880 --> 00:47:11.199
then they need to be charged.

782
00:47:11.679 --> 00:47:15.119
Yes, well, the thing is again, this thing is so massive.

783
00:47:15.199 --> 00:47:18.079
You're talking four hundred and five hundred thousand kids right now,

784
00:47:18.880 --> 00:47:22.280
and look what kind of effort it's taken to deport.

785
00:47:22.400 --> 00:47:25.760
We haven't even you know, deported. I don't even not

786
00:47:25.840 --> 00:47:28.880
even ten percent of the people that have come through

787
00:47:28.960 --> 00:47:30.880
the border. I mean they're saying, hey, this could be

788
00:47:30.960 --> 00:47:33.599
a generational issue because there's no way you're going to

789
00:47:33.639 --> 00:47:36.960
get the genie back in the bottle again. And especially

790
00:47:37.039 --> 00:47:38.760
the way they come into the country. They're just sent

791
00:47:38.840 --> 00:47:41.079
out and you know, into the interior of the country,

792
00:47:41.159 --> 00:47:43.519
have no idea where they're at on the honor system.

793
00:47:43.559 --> 00:47:46.400
Oh yeah, come back in eight years, you know. I mean,

794
00:47:47.280 --> 00:47:49.719
how are you supposed to send them a notice to

795
00:47:49.920 --> 00:47:53.559
appear eight years down the road if those notices are

796
00:47:53.639 --> 00:47:56.480
even being sent out, As you mentioned, you already had

797
00:47:56.559 --> 00:48:00.599
the government had promised to do in home investigation and

798
00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:03.960
follow up, and for all intent purposes, you're discovering they

799
00:48:04.000 --> 00:48:04.800
didn't do anything.

800
00:48:05.880 --> 00:48:08.480
They didn't even follow up on people that were supposed

801
00:48:08.480 --> 00:48:11.320
to have a background check. They were supposed to complete

802
00:48:11.360 --> 00:48:13.719
a background check, and they would send the kids there

803
00:48:13.800 --> 00:48:17.079
before the background check completed. So it was a lot

804
00:48:17.320 --> 00:48:21.880
of willful ignorance. So Bill, I know, we're sitting here

805
00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:25.599
and we are fired up, we are angry, but I

806
00:48:25.719 --> 00:48:28.320
want the American people to know and your viewers to

807
00:48:28.440 --> 00:48:31.800
know exactly what we can do to fix this problem.

808
00:48:32.480 --> 00:48:35.760
HR two is a solution. We pass it in Congress,

809
00:48:36.440 --> 00:48:39.519
but it didn't pass in the Senate. So we need

810
00:48:39.599 --> 00:48:43.639
to pressure these senators. Hey, this is an ongoing problem,

811
00:48:43.960 --> 00:48:46.440
and if we don't address this issue with HR two

812
00:48:46.519 --> 00:48:50.599
and be able to send people back immediately, then the

813
00:48:50.719 --> 00:48:54.199
cartels are going to continue to take advantage of that loophole.

814
00:48:55.079 --> 00:49:01.239
HR two prevents that loophole from being established, it helps

815
00:49:01.280 --> 00:49:04.559
it from continuing. And we want to pressure our elected

816
00:49:04.599 --> 00:49:08.480
officials to put together long term solutions. What they tried

817
00:49:08.519 --> 00:49:16.679
to do with that bipartisan bill bill, they attempted to

818
00:49:16.960 --> 00:49:21.719
codify the high numbers of people being able to come

819
00:49:21.760 --> 00:49:24.119
to the border. It would have been like five thousand

820
00:49:24.280 --> 00:49:28.920
a day. That would have been unaccompanied miners continuing to

821
00:49:29.039 --> 00:49:32.480
come to our borders every single day.

822
00:49:33.079 --> 00:49:37.800
You're codifying something that you've already realized is so god awful,

823
00:49:38.199 --> 00:49:41.760
which is the Biden policies of open border and those

824
00:49:41.920 --> 00:49:46.480
on the left and those that are interested in, you know,

825
00:49:46.599 --> 00:49:51.280
really disenfranchising the American people and compromising our citizenship to

826
00:49:51.400 --> 00:49:55.480
no end. And there is that level of people within

827
00:49:55.840 --> 00:49:58.880
you know, our country that say they're citizens, but they're

828
00:49:58.920 --> 00:50:01.800
citizens in name only. They're really they really don't have

829
00:50:01.880 --> 00:50:04.079
the heart. But going back to what you presented earlier,

830
00:50:04.239 --> 00:50:07.719
under him, this is critical. The American people need to

831
00:50:07.840 --> 00:50:11.480
understand truly what the problem is, right, you know, and

832
00:50:11.639 --> 00:50:15.039
and it's like anything any other any dysfunction. The step

833
00:50:15.199 --> 00:50:17.679
one is admitting you've got a problem, and you've got

834
00:50:17.760 --> 00:50:20.239
to go deep in that problem and realize, hey, look

835
00:50:20.239 --> 00:50:22.760
at what we're doing to these kids. And don't just say, oh,

836
00:50:22.880 --> 00:50:25.960
well that's somebody else, you know, that's a Hyundai's problem

837
00:50:26.159 --> 00:50:29.039
or whatever. This is the United States of America, a

838
00:50:29.119 --> 00:50:32.760
government of for by we the people. Okay, so our

839
00:50:32.920 --> 00:50:38.559
passivity is giving giving in a sense approval to this

840
00:50:39.039 --> 00:50:41.199
this kind of misbehavior and abuse of children.

841
00:50:41.960 --> 00:50:46.119
Absolutely, and going back to what you said, we definitely

842
00:50:46.679 --> 00:50:49.559
need to realize that we have a problem. The problem

843
00:50:49.599 --> 00:50:52.719
in the Binding administration was they were letting into many

844
00:50:52.800 --> 00:50:56.639
people and sending him to the interior without checking.

845
00:50:57.280 --> 00:51:00.239
And as a result of that, we don't know where

846
00:51:00.280 --> 00:51:00.719
people are.

847
00:51:01.360 --> 00:51:03.719
We've seen cases of people being hurt.

848
00:51:04.039 --> 00:51:05.239
We can't allow.

849
00:51:05.039 --> 00:51:08.360
Ourselves to get overwhelmed. And a lot of people think

850
00:51:08.440 --> 00:51:12.039
that organizations like numbers us say that want to moderate

851
00:51:12.199 --> 00:51:15.880
immigration are evil? Why are we keeping the people out? Well,

852
00:51:16.079 --> 00:51:19.800
our government couldn't manage to take care of these children,

853
00:51:20.039 --> 00:51:22.599
and now we put all these children in danger and

854
00:51:22.719 --> 00:51:25.400
a lot of them are still missing. So we have

855
00:51:25.719 --> 00:51:30.519
to be able to create a flow of people that

856
00:51:30.679 --> 00:51:33.519
we can monitor, people that we can vet and know

857
00:51:33.639 --> 00:51:36.360
where we're sending these children and be able to do

858
00:51:36.480 --> 00:51:38.639
the checks. If it's too much for us to do

859
00:51:38.760 --> 00:51:42.800
our due diligence to do the check, then we should

860
00:51:42.880 --> 00:51:47.639
not be allowing masses of masses of people to come.

861
00:51:47.559 --> 00:51:51.320
Across the board. Well what's true effective immigration? Andre but

862
00:51:51.440 --> 00:51:53.639
to you know, like you said, you're going to vet

863
00:51:53.719 --> 00:51:55.639
the people, but also that they want to come in,

864
00:51:55.920 --> 00:51:59.800
just like you know immigrants before who came into the

865
00:52:00.800 --> 00:52:03.679
they wanted to assimilate. They wanted to add to the

866
00:52:03.760 --> 00:52:07.119
great American dream, which immigrants for the most part have

867
00:52:07.320 --> 00:52:10.840
done so. But when you just open up the gates

868
00:52:10.880 --> 00:52:15.079
and let people come in that are not interested in assimilating,

869
00:52:15.239 --> 00:52:20.199
speaking English, embracing the American way of life truly, then

870
00:52:20.280 --> 00:52:23.000
guess what you know? You've got to know go zones

871
00:52:23.079 --> 00:52:25.039
like we have in some parts of the country right.

872
00:52:25.000 --> 00:52:29.079
Now, right, and look, look what's happening in Minnesota, Minnesotaca.

873
00:52:29.119 --> 00:52:31.280
There was going to say falling apart.

874
00:52:31.840 --> 00:52:37.599
Twenty five percent of Somalia's GDP comes from admitted of

875
00:52:37.800 --> 00:52:43.360
remittances from the United States. They've infiltrated the government there.

876
00:52:43.639 --> 00:52:46.960
They've allowed people to come there, get the free benefits,

877
00:52:47.159 --> 00:52:52.119
the housing, the education, and all of those things. Then

878
00:52:52.159 --> 00:52:55.519
they're able to have larger families. Then they get a

879
00:52:55.639 --> 00:53:01.239
stronger voting block, which then allow pressures a lot of

880
00:53:01.280 --> 00:53:04.880
Americans that can afford to have one or two children

881
00:53:05.440 --> 00:53:09.800
to be in a situation where they're no longer politically

882
00:53:10.039 --> 00:53:14.559
viable because essentially we've allowed the floodgates open to allow

883
00:53:14.639 --> 00:53:16.760
people to come in and infistrate the government.

884
00:53:16.880 --> 00:53:21.199
It is ridiculous, Yeah, it really is. Andrea Barnes Numbers

885
00:53:21.239 --> 00:53:25.000
USAHBCU Engagement Director has been our guest. Andrea has always

886
00:53:25.039 --> 00:53:27.440
appreciate the time. Take care, be well, my friend, Thank you,

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thank you for having me.

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Getting America back on track, Bill Martinez live, well, Good.

923
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Morning Jay America. Bill Martinez here. Good to have you

924
00:55:43.480 --> 00:55:47.119
with us. I'm here with us. Scott Powell, my good buddy.

925
00:55:47.199 --> 00:55:50.519
Hey mister Scott, how you doing. I'm very well, Bill, Thanks, Hey,

926
00:55:50.639 --> 00:55:53.239
thank you so much. By the time people will view

927
00:55:53.360 --> 00:55:58.559
this and hear this particular interview, Constitution Day and Citizens'

928
00:55:58.639 --> 00:56:01.440
Day will have come and gone. And I would dare

929
00:56:01.480 --> 00:56:04.239
to say that probably they didn't hear a whole lot

930
00:56:04.280 --> 00:56:07.519
about it, and here they are hearing it after the

931
00:56:07.599 --> 00:56:11.079
fact that Constitution Day happened. But Constitution Day is something

932
00:56:11.119 --> 00:56:13.360
that we should live with every day and regard. And

933
00:56:13.440 --> 00:56:15.559
I think this is part of the problem that we

934
00:56:15.679 --> 00:56:19.800
have in America today is two things. Our Constitution is

935
00:56:19.960 --> 00:56:24.960
not remembered and held to by its citizens, by its

936
00:56:25.000 --> 00:56:27.639
elected officials, and go right and down the line, and

937
00:56:28.480 --> 00:56:33.039
the respect for a citizenship right, Yes, I mean, if.

938
00:56:33.000 --> 00:56:38.599
People really understood, what an amazing blessing, if you will,

939
00:56:39.239 --> 00:56:43.000
the Constitution is for, you know, for all of our

940
00:56:43.119 --> 00:56:47.039
lives really for the broader picture. You know, the Constitution

941
00:56:47.280 --> 00:56:51.679
came at a time when there was relative political darkness

942
00:56:51.760 --> 00:56:54.760
in the world. There was no there was no notion

943
00:56:55.639 --> 00:57:00.719
that the government should serve the people own notion that

944
00:57:01.159 --> 00:57:05.000
the people were sovereign, that that they had unalienable God

945
00:57:05.119 --> 00:57:11.039
given rights, and that the government, uh, you know should

946
00:57:11.079 --> 00:57:15.679
protect those rights. Exactly every other government, you know, the

947
00:57:15.760 --> 00:57:18.840
government was in charge and it dictated your rights.

948
00:57:19.360 --> 00:57:21.960
Yeah, so and how and how and how dare you

949
00:57:22.199 --> 00:57:23.440
question the sovereign right?

950
00:57:23.559 --> 00:57:23.920
That's right?

951
00:57:24.039 --> 00:57:24.400
That's right.

952
00:57:25.360 --> 00:57:29.800
Now. There were there were developments, particularly with the Magna

953
00:57:29.880 --> 00:57:35.400
Carta and and and English history, British history, that moved

954
00:57:35.440 --> 00:57:40.840
in the direction of recognizing people's rights and limiting the

955
00:57:41.320 --> 00:57:46.760
power of the sovereign the king, but nothing came close

956
00:57:46.800 --> 00:57:51.000
to the Constitution wherein uh, you know, the starting point

957
00:57:51.159 --> 00:57:55.760
is is that people have unalienable God given rights. State

958
00:57:55.840 --> 00:57:58.880
can't take away and that it is the state's job,

959
00:57:59.039 --> 00:58:03.400
it's primary job is to protect those rights exactly. So

960
00:58:03.800 --> 00:58:06.559
free speech, for instance, which is you know, our first amendment.

961
00:58:07.280 --> 00:58:07.440
Uh.

962
00:58:08.719 --> 00:58:11.159
Has government been protecting free speech in America?

963
00:58:11.400 --> 00:58:15.119
No, certainly not in England these days either.

964
00:58:15.519 --> 00:58:15.559
No.

965
00:58:16.039 --> 00:58:19.719
No, no, yeah, But but that's a whole nother story.

966
00:58:20.000 --> 00:58:22.960
But you know, going back to uh, well you talk

967
00:58:23.000 --> 00:58:27.679
about inalienable rights. Here, you've got a former Democrat, Democrat

968
00:58:28.239 --> 00:58:33.800
nominee for Vice President, Tim Kaine, who declared that, you know, uh,

969
00:58:33.880 --> 00:58:37.280
he didn't believe in inalienable rights. Right, yes, I mean,

970
00:58:37.480 --> 00:58:41.159
this guy's a senator. Give me, how can you make

971
00:58:41.199 --> 00:58:43.840
such a goofy statement? See, that's as goofy as I

972
00:58:43.920 --> 00:58:46.639
can't tell you the definition of a woman. See. This

973
00:58:46.880 --> 00:58:48.719
is the kind of stuff that has crept into our

974
00:58:48.840 --> 00:58:55.159
culture that is aberrating our understanding of the Constitution, of

975
00:58:55.320 --> 00:58:58.320
how we look at one another made in the image

976
00:58:58.360 --> 00:59:02.000
of God. But you know, in terms of the Constitution,

977
00:59:02.679 --> 00:59:07.679
when Charlie Kirk understood and studied the Constitution, it caused

978
00:59:07.760 --> 00:59:12.840
him to declare and affirm that America is the greatest

979
00:59:12.880 --> 00:59:15.360
country on God's green Earth.

980
00:59:15.840 --> 00:59:20.360
And that is absolutely true. The vision that was established

981
00:59:20.400 --> 00:59:24.559
by the founders was absolutely revolutionary, and.

982
00:59:26.039 --> 00:59:29.679
You know, and we thrived for really, I mean.

983
00:59:29.679 --> 00:59:33.960
Our economic growth was dramatic in spite of booms and

984
00:59:34.079 --> 00:59:37.559
busts of the you know, in the eighteen hundreds and

985
00:59:37.679 --> 00:59:42.559
a civil war, a devastating civil war, right, America, you know, grew,

986
00:59:43.360 --> 00:59:47.920
its economy grew. We were very innovative. You know, I

987
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point out in the article that even though we have

988
00:59:50.559 --> 00:59:54.519
only four percent of the world's population, over ninety percent

989
00:59:54.639 --> 00:59:57.800
of the creativity in the world has come from the

990
00:59:57.960 --> 01:00:03.960
United States. Why is that because of the freedom of

991
01:00:04.000 --> 01:00:07.480
the people. When people are free to be creative and

992
01:00:08.039 --> 01:00:11.760
sue their ideas to their limit, look what happens.

993
01:00:11.800 --> 01:00:14.159
There's flourish and they get and they get to not

994
01:00:14.280 --> 01:00:17.639
only do they get to exercise their God given dallans right,

995
01:00:18.280 --> 01:00:22.119
but they get the reward of set exercise. They get

996
01:00:22.159 --> 01:00:26.639
to own property, they get to create businesses. Yeah, and

997
01:00:26.719 --> 01:00:29.599
you get proper incentive. And this was a process, as

998
01:00:29.639 --> 01:00:32.000
you know, you and I've talked about this before. When

999
01:00:32.039 --> 01:00:35.159
the early pilgrims came to the United States, they thought, Okay,

1000
01:00:35.199 --> 01:00:37.480
we're going to do this in a socialistic sort of manner.

1001
01:00:37.559 --> 01:00:39.440
They may not have said socialism. But they're just a

1002
01:00:40.039 --> 01:00:42.559
you know, all for one, one for all, we're going

1003
01:00:42.639 --> 01:00:44.679
to try and share. Until they realized that you had

1004
01:00:44.719 --> 01:00:47.519
people that wanted to sit back and say, Scott, hey,

1005
01:00:47.559 --> 01:00:49.199
you do the heavy lifting today. I'm just going to

1006
01:00:49.280 --> 01:00:51.559
kick back for a while and you know, and when

1007
01:00:51.719 --> 01:00:54.360
the harvest comes in, just tell me when I should

1008
01:00:54.360 --> 01:00:57.559
come and pick up my bushels of wheat. Right, that's right.

1009
01:00:58.039 --> 01:01:01.239
Well, William Bradford tried to for the first two years

1010
01:01:01.320 --> 01:01:05.440
of the Plymouth Colony and then he and then he declared,

1011
01:01:05.840 --> 01:01:10.360
this is not working. We need to parcel up the

1012
01:01:10.559 --> 01:01:14.159
land and given a lot into every to everyone in

1013
01:01:14.280 --> 01:01:14.960
our colony.

1014
01:01:15.559 --> 01:01:18.880
Yes, and Scott, think about this, Think about the people

1015
01:01:18.960 --> 01:01:21.440
that he was dealing with. These are godly people, yes,

1016
01:01:21.719 --> 01:01:24.920
supposedly god fearing people. Right, that's right, that's right. Read

1017
01:01:24.960 --> 01:01:27.559
the word very much, so, very much so right. And

1018
01:01:27.760 --> 01:01:30.880
so then you find out that the natural instinct of humanity,

1019
01:01:31.800 --> 01:01:35.239
not necessarily with God, wants to do us at darnwell pleases.

1020
01:01:35.599 --> 01:01:38.000
And if it can kick back and you know, let

1021
01:01:38.079 --> 01:01:41.039
other people do the work, they're happy to uh to

1022
01:01:41.199 --> 01:01:43.920
be be provided for. Let's put it that way.

1023
01:01:44.159 --> 01:01:48.679
You're absolutely right, You're absolutely right. So anyway, it's amazing

1024
01:01:48.800 --> 01:01:53.840
that you know, once, uh what, once they you know,

1025
01:01:53.880 --> 01:01:56.559
they had a very meager harvest for the first Thanksgiving

1026
01:01:56.719 --> 01:02:02.239
because of the socialized agriculture, and the second year wasn't

1027
01:02:02.320 --> 01:02:08.559
much better. Once they once they basically restructured things so

1028
01:02:08.639 --> 01:02:13.280
there was incentive and responsibility and accountability for people taking

1029
01:02:13.320 --> 01:02:16.440
care of themselves. Guess what, they flourished. They had a

1030
01:02:16.519 --> 01:02:18.360
surplus of food right.

1031
01:02:18.880 --> 01:02:21.320
Well, and they also opened themselves up to you know,

1032
01:02:21.599 --> 01:02:23.960
kind of talking with the local people to find out

1033
01:02:24.000 --> 01:02:25.960
what they did. Right well.

1034
01:02:26.000 --> 01:02:28.960
The Indians really played an important role on the coach

1035
01:02:29.519 --> 01:02:33.199
exactly because they you know, and it was really again

1036
01:02:33.360 --> 01:02:39.119
God's arrangement was for those Indians to be peaceful and

1037
01:02:39.960 --> 01:02:43.639
accommodating to these new strangers that had become their neighbors,

1038
01:02:44.079 --> 01:02:48.159
right instead of war, instead of warlike So anyway, I mean,

1039
01:02:48.159 --> 01:02:50.239
there were a lot of accomplishments made by the Pilgrims

1040
01:02:50.280 --> 01:02:52.519
that were very very unique, and one of which was

1041
01:02:52.599 --> 01:02:55.840
their fifty year peace treaty with the Indians that lasted

1042
01:02:55.880 --> 01:02:56.719
at full fifty years.

1043
01:02:56.840 --> 01:03:03.239
No other colony had that relationship with Indians. Well, again,

1044
01:03:04.039 --> 01:03:07.159
you know, God's in the picture, He's right there. This

1045
01:03:07.320 --> 01:03:11.159
is the great American idea. That was an answer to prayer.

1046
01:03:11.440 --> 01:03:15.000
As we know, for ten twelve years they're praying, God,

1047
01:03:15.079 --> 01:03:17.360
please send us someplace. Is there another place we can

1048
01:03:17.440 --> 01:03:19.199
go to and worship you freely?

1049
01:03:19.480 --> 01:03:19.599
Right?

1050
01:03:19.880 --> 01:03:22.840
That was the motivation for them to, you know, to

1051
01:03:22.920 --> 01:03:25.800
get on those ships thousands of miles away. And as

1052
01:03:25.880 --> 01:03:28.800
we know, in that first year, half of their contingents died.

1053
01:03:29.920 --> 01:03:32.000
Yes, in the first year, the first winner was brutal.

1054
01:03:32.159 --> 01:03:35.480
It's amazing that, you know, they all survived the Transatlantic

1055
01:03:36.079 --> 01:03:42.960
voyage except one crew member who was always criticizing, you know,

1056
01:03:43.079 --> 01:03:46.840
the separatists, the real pilgrims, the Christians. He was hostile

1057
01:03:46.920 --> 01:03:51.199
to Christianity and one in one storm, he was thrown overboard.

1058
01:03:51.239 --> 01:03:52.360
He was the only loss.

1059
01:03:55.519 --> 01:03:59.519
He was sacrificed to the ocean. Is that you're telling

1060
01:03:59.599 --> 01:04:00.760
me that's right?

1061
01:04:01.639 --> 01:04:01.800
Right?

1062
01:04:02.239 --> 01:04:05.760
Well, anyway, it's just it's fabulous when you go back

1063
01:04:05.800 --> 01:04:08.800
and you look at the history. I think where we

1064
01:04:08.880 --> 01:04:11.400
are today, Scott, and we've been saying this for a

1065
01:04:11.480 --> 01:04:14.920
long time that you know, in the absence of fact,

1066
01:04:15.000 --> 01:04:17.880
opinion rules, and we've got to get out of that realm.

1067
01:04:18.039 --> 01:04:22.039
I mean, there's so many opinions flying around, and I

1068
01:04:22.119 --> 01:04:24.599
think that what we could learn from the murder of

1069
01:04:24.679 --> 01:04:27.719
Charlie Kirk is that it's a call to bring, you know,

1070
01:04:27.840 --> 01:04:31.000
to bring the facts, to bring the true story. Anyway.

1071
01:04:31.119 --> 01:04:32.800
I want to address that on the other side of

1072
01:04:32.800 --> 01:04:34.079
the break, Stay with us. We're going to go to

1073
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Scott Powell right after this.

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As promised, we're back with you. Just about nineteen minutes

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after the top of the IRIS, Scott Powell, the author,

1171
01:09:17.399 --> 01:09:19.840
member of the Committee on President Danger of China, senior

1172
01:09:19.880 --> 01:09:23.079
fellow at the Discovery Institute, continues with us. Anyways, I

1173
01:09:23.239 --> 01:09:27.479
was saying before the break, Scot, is that you know

1174
01:09:27.640 --> 01:09:32.479
Charlie Kirk brought facts he showed himself studied to be approved.

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01:09:32.520 --> 01:09:35.520
I mean, and that was just so impressive, going to

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the belly of the beast and these universities that you

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think these kids should know all this information, and they

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found out very quickly they didn't know it because they

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would bring their opinions to a factfight and so to speak.

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And it didn't farewell for them, and they were overwhelmed.

1181
01:09:53.359 --> 01:09:56.119
But hopefully what it did for these kids is that

1182
01:09:56.319 --> 01:09:59.439
it encouraged them to know their own truth. You know,

1183
01:09:59.640 --> 01:10:01.199
you hear me say that all the time. You know,

1184
01:10:01.279 --> 01:10:04.279
don't just take our word for it, you know, study

1185
01:10:04.359 --> 01:10:07.880
to show yourself approved. Go find out if what Bill

1186
01:10:07.960 --> 01:10:09.279
and Scott are saying is true.

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Uh.

1188
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And and that we get it out of the realm

1189
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of the opinion, because right now we're in a dangerous

1190
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era and a position that is all based on opinion,

1191
01:10:19.319 --> 01:10:21.600
you know. And you know, years ago, I think what

1192
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year and a half ago, I put out the question,

1193
01:10:23.880 --> 01:10:26.199
you know, who told you to hate Donald Trump? Well,

1194
01:10:26.319 --> 01:10:28.119
who told you to hate Charlie Kirk?

1195
01:10:28.920 --> 01:10:29.079
Right?

1196
01:10:29.359 --> 01:10:31.520
And uh? And the thing is is you got to

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you got to consider that. And these people did not

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know Charlie Kirk. They thought they did. They had an

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opinion about him, Uh, but it really wasn't well established.

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And particularly what we're finding out how this how this

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assassin reacted, and the perception that he held in his heart,

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and how it corrupted him to the point that he

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would just in cold blood, kill kill a father, kill

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a you know, a generational leader. You know, for what

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you know he's promoting. He's promoting everybody's freedom, you know,

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01:11:03.039 --> 01:11:07.920
the principles of our constitution, and and and above all that.

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More importantly, for Charlie, he's promoting the gospel message because

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he knew everything, all the goodness of America, all the

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promises of the Constitution, began in the beginning in the

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Book of Genesis with Almighty God.

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Right absolutely, Bill. You know, Charlie was a remarkable a guy.

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Many people may not know. But he started out at college.

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But when he's when he's surveyed, you know, the environment,

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what he was getting, he decided that college students weren't

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they weren't being led to the truth that uh, and

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01:11:50.680 --> 01:11:53.920
he had an inspiration to do something about that, to

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01:11:54.039 --> 01:11:59.039
bring enlightenment to college students. He dropped out of college.

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01:11:59.760 --> 01:12:02.600
He never got a college degree, and then he goes

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on being able to debate Ivy League Oxford Cambridge scholars

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01:12:08.359 --> 01:12:12.479
and win the debates. Now, how is that possible? I mean,

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01:12:13.399 --> 01:12:16.319
Charlie was a very gifted guy. He was blessed by

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01:12:16.479 --> 01:12:21.520
God and really he had he had wisdom beyond his years,

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01:12:21.600 --> 01:12:22.600
There's no doubt about that.

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Well scotten, like you said, he had a choice. He

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could stay in the classroom and be indoctrinated with He

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01:12:28.399 --> 01:12:31.520
knew the curriculum, he saw what was going to be taught,

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01:12:31.560 --> 01:12:33.760
what books he needed to read, you know, for the

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01:12:33.800 --> 01:12:36.279
next semester, and goes, why am I going to waste

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01:12:36.319 --> 01:12:40.119
my time on you know, paper mache when I could

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go and spend time, spend that time, invest that time

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01:12:43.359 --> 01:12:48.119
in reading the classics and understanding, you know, the fundamentals

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of our constitution and these other disciplines. And that's what

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he poured himself into. And along the way then he

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01:12:55.800 --> 01:12:57.880
fell in love again with the Word of God and

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he started to pour himself into, uh, the Bible. And

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that's why so many of my my friends who are pastors,

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01:13:04.960 --> 01:13:07.680
who Charlie would be in touch with almost on a

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weekly basis at least, and he's constantly texting him ask him.

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You know, I run across his passage. You know what

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what does this mean? This is what I think it means,

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you know kind of thing. And so, uh, Charlie was,

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uh was the ultimate inquisitive individual.

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And uh.

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And that's what I take away from Charlie Kirk and

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I think that that's what several things here. Number one,

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self responsibility. Don't blame it on the teachers. Don't blame

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it on the professors, your lot in life or whatever.

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Take self responsibility. Make some choices and decisions for yourself,

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01:13:39.760 --> 01:13:43.640
number one, which Charlie did. And uh, and then be responsible,

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be responsible for uh, you know, for your work effort.

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And go out there and uh you know, and you

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01:13:52.359 --> 01:13:54.159
don't need it. May not be your calling to go

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01:13:54.199 --> 01:13:55.840
out and get in front of thousands of people. I

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01:13:55.960 --> 01:13:59.000
get that, But go and be individually. I mean, you know,

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we're talking about constant day, citizen day. Go out there

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01:14:01.840 --> 01:14:03.079
and be the best citizen you can be.

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01:14:04.479 --> 01:14:10.000
Yes, yes, don't be afraid to strike up conversations with people, uh,

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01:14:10.439 --> 01:14:15.960
you know, on on on important subjects pertaining to the

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01:14:16.079 --> 01:14:20.279
quality of life. You know, where our country is going.

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01:14:21.640 --> 01:14:25.479
Why morality, uh you know, why why morality is so

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01:14:25.640 --> 01:14:29.079
important to a healthy society. All those you know, those

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01:14:29.119 --> 01:14:31.359
are those are issues that people shy away from.

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01:14:31.399 --> 01:14:31.960
They shouldn't.

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01:14:32.479 --> 01:14:35.640
Yeah, well they're and they're personal, Scott. And when they're personal,

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01:14:36.000 --> 01:14:38.439
what can you do? Are you going to invalidate my

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01:14:38.600 --> 01:14:41.239
personal experience? You're going to tell me the blind man

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01:14:41.319 --> 01:14:43.439
that I you know, I can't see when I can

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01:14:43.520 --> 01:14:45.520
clearly see. I couldn't see it before, but now I see.

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01:14:45.720 --> 01:14:48.760
It's a personal thing, right, And you don't need to

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01:14:49.119 --> 01:14:52.760
articulate necessarily, you know, the exact date in the year

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01:14:52.880 --> 01:14:56.680
of certain events and all that, but you know you

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01:14:56.880 --> 01:14:59.960
can relate to the constitution and what the kind of

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01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:03.000
stitution is doing for you today on the two hundred

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01:15:03.000 --> 01:15:05.439
and fiftieth birthday of this incredible country of ours.

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01:15:05.760 --> 01:15:07.720
Yeah, well we're one more, you know, we got to

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01:15:07.760 --> 01:15:10.479
get to twenty sixth for the two hundred and fiftieth

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01:15:10.520 --> 01:15:15.199
anniversary of the Declaration of Independence. You know, it's everybody

1278
01:15:15.239 --> 01:15:20.640
should realize that the constitution, really the Declaration of Independence

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01:15:20.720 --> 01:15:24.039
came in the first year of the Revolutionary War, and

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01:15:24.159 --> 01:15:25.279
that was a six year war.

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01:15:25.439 --> 01:15:27.359
And then once we.

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01:15:27.399 --> 01:15:31.840
Were freed from Britain, we lived under a very weak

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01:15:31.960 --> 01:15:34.640
government under the Articles of Confederation and that went on

1284
01:15:34.880 --> 01:15:41.600
for like six years until Madison and several others realized this,

1285
01:15:42.279 --> 01:15:45.720
we need we need a strong government. You know, the

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01:15:46.199 --> 01:15:50.279
territories of the colonies was being infringed upon by you know,

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01:15:50.399 --> 01:15:53.159
by the French, by the Spanish and so forth, and

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01:15:53.239 --> 01:15:57.600
they didn't have any ability to stand up because there

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01:15:57.720 --> 01:16:01.279
wasn't a strong central government. So so that was the

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01:16:01.399 --> 01:16:06.439
exception of reforming the Articles of Confederation. But Madison, the

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01:16:06.560 --> 01:16:10.800
sort of the kind of the leader of the Constitutional Convention,

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01:16:11.279 --> 01:16:14.279
he knew that it had to be totally scrapped, right,

1293
01:16:14.720 --> 01:16:17.680
you know, you couldn't reform that, you had to start again.

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01:16:18.119 --> 01:16:22.720
And isn't it amazing to think about it? That the Constitution,

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01:16:25.000 --> 01:16:28.199
the debates that went on for about four months, starting

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01:16:28.279 --> 01:16:33.760
in late May and ending in September, and getting signed

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01:16:33.800 --> 01:16:37.800
off on them September seventeenth. That's why that's Constitution Day.

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01:16:38.359 --> 01:16:41.720
That's about a four month period. How is it possible

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01:16:42.279 --> 01:16:48.720
the delegates from thirteen different disparate states could possibly agree

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01:16:49.479 --> 01:16:52.039
on a new government, And yet they did.

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01:16:53.000 --> 01:16:56.479
And you know what brought them together, right, you know,

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01:16:56.640 --> 01:17:02.920
the clinch was Benjamin Franklin. Franklin, right of all people

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01:17:03.079 --> 01:17:05.720
right when you when you say that, you know, here's

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01:17:05.760 --> 01:17:09.600
Ben Franklin, the least spiritual, probably of the founding fathers.

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01:17:10.239 --> 01:17:10.359
Uh.

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01:17:10.680 --> 01:17:13.279
He's the one that says, hey, are we forgetting something here?

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01:17:14.039 --> 01:17:15.279
Maybe maybe we should pray?

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01:17:15.439 --> 01:17:15.600
Right.

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01:17:16.720 --> 01:17:19.760
Well, he pointed out that during the Revolutionary War when

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they met on a daily basis in Philadelphia, they met

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01:17:25.039 --> 01:17:28.479
because of the Articles of Confederation, they were responsible for

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01:17:30.439 --> 01:17:33.800
dealing with the issues of the states, particularly as it

1313
01:17:33.880 --> 01:17:39.399
pertained to you know, to the war, and they prayed

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01:17:39.399 --> 01:17:43.319
every day. So when it came time for the Constitution

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01:17:43.520 --> 01:17:47.800
to be drafted, the observation that Franklin made was, look,

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01:17:47.920 --> 01:17:53.239
we we always gathered, our governing body gathered and prayed

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01:17:53.640 --> 01:17:59.119
before we did anything. Shouldn't we be praying now? And

1318
01:17:59.239 --> 01:18:02.920
so it was, you know, it was Ben Franklin. You

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01:18:02.960 --> 01:18:05.279
know a lot of people have charged him with being

1320
01:18:05.800 --> 01:18:08.000
you know, a true dais that he really didn't believe

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01:18:08.039 --> 01:18:08.399
in God.

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01:18:09.279 --> 01:18:09.840
But you don't.

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01:18:09.840 --> 01:18:13.560
You're not a praying person unless you really believe that God.

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01:18:14.600 --> 01:18:19.159
God's influence can come down and affect human life, because

1325
01:18:19.359 --> 01:18:23.600
a Daist by definition believes that yes, God created everything.

1326
01:18:24.319 --> 01:18:27.279
Like the clockmaker makes a clock and he sets it

1327
01:18:27.479 --> 01:18:30.239
running and then he has nothing to do with it anymore.

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01:18:30.880 --> 01:18:34.640
That's what adeist is. So dias has no role for prayer.

1329
01:18:35.279 --> 01:18:39.039
So how could Franklin be possibly be a dais when

1330
01:18:39.960 --> 01:18:42.920
he called people to prayer? And I would add that

1331
01:18:43.119 --> 01:18:45.920
you know, he was very good friends with George Whitfield,

1332
01:18:46.359 --> 01:18:50.960
who is probably the the evangelist who made the Great

1333
01:18:51.000 --> 01:18:55.960
Awakening possible. That great Awakening brought the colonies together so

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01:18:56.119 --> 01:19:01.039
that they, you know, could muster the courage to fight

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01:19:01.399 --> 01:19:03.600
this greatest military power in the world that they were

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01:19:03.600 --> 01:19:06.079
going to declare independence and that was going to be

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01:19:06.159 --> 01:19:09.239
a war against the greatest military power in the world.

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01:19:10.680 --> 01:19:14.560
Well, ladies and gentlemen, though Constitution Day was a week ago,

1339
01:19:15.800 --> 01:19:18.800
we pray that you celebrate Constitution Day. There's no reason

1340
01:19:18.880 --> 01:19:22.159
why we can't continue the celebration every day because of

1341
01:19:22.279 --> 01:19:27.359
what we live under and we need a revival and consideration.

1342
01:19:27.560 --> 01:19:31.199
Scott Powell of Constitution Day. As you write, if the

1343
01:19:31.279 --> 01:19:34.239
light goes out, darkness and oppression are sure to follow.

1344
01:19:34.359 --> 01:19:35.159
You better believe it.

1345
01:19:35.520 --> 01:19:37.720
Right, Well, that's what we've been living under, and so

1346
01:19:37.880 --> 01:19:41.479
now the light is shining. Isn't it amazing that Charlie

1347
01:19:41.560 --> 01:19:46.760
Kirk in his martyrdom, and his death has catalyzed an

1348
01:19:46.800 --> 01:19:51.760
awakening in America. You know, there are apparently petitions for

1349
01:19:51.920 --> 01:19:55.079
some eighteen thousand new chapters of Turning Point.

1350
01:19:55.359 --> 01:20:00.359
It's now thirty seven thousand, Scotts going. That's a amazing

1351
01:20:00.439 --> 01:20:02.199
Probably by the time this here is will probably like

1352
01:20:02.319 --> 01:20:04.840
forty thousand. I mean, this is the kind of impact

1353
01:20:04.880 --> 01:20:06.840
that it makes which reminds us amazing.

1354
01:20:06.920 --> 01:20:11.119
It's amazing. And just as the church prospered under persecution

1355
01:20:11.800 --> 01:20:14.359
and martyred him, all of the apostles, with the exception

1356
01:20:14.479 --> 01:20:18.279
of John who lived on were you know, we're martyred.

1357
01:20:18.399 --> 01:20:21.880
They were executed for their belief. And yet the church

1358
01:20:22.479 --> 01:20:26.960
prospered and grew. So maybe we're in a second you know,

1359
01:20:27.319 --> 01:20:29.319
we're in a spiritual.

1360
01:20:28.920 --> 01:20:29.640
Revival, right.

1361
01:20:30.720 --> 01:20:34.680
I believe a great awakening, another great awakening, by the

1362
01:20:34.720 --> 01:20:38.399
grace and mercy of God is before us. Scott, and

1363
01:20:39.239 --> 01:20:42.560
we'll continue this conversation next week when we get together.

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01:20:42.840 --> 01:20:44.600
He is the author, member of the Committee on President

1365
01:20:44.680 --> 01:20:48.159
Danger China, Senior fellow at the Discovery Institute. We're talking

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01:20:48.199 --> 01:20:50.760
about the one and only mister Scott Powell. Thank you, Scott,

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01:20:50.840 --> 01:20:51.960
take care, blurod bless you.

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you with us, sharing a part of your day. For

1434
01:24:33.880 --> 01:24:36.159
more info on the show, check it out Bill Martinez

1435
01:24:36.199 --> 01:24:39.399
Live dot com. Well, the fall color season is coming soon,

1436
01:24:39.760 --> 01:24:42.399
creating a perfect reason for a time to get away.

1437
01:24:42.640 --> 01:24:45.760
And joining us today is renowned travel expert and storyteller

1438
01:24:46.119 --> 01:24:48.760
Chris Repchek. She's here gonna charm us with all kinds

1439
01:24:48.800 --> 01:24:51.439
of great stories and beautiful scenery. She's teaming up with

1440
01:24:51.520 --> 01:24:55.479
West Virginia Tourism to reveal some amazing places to visit

1441
01:24:55.600 --> 01:24:59.119
for a great fall vacation. Chris, by the way, specializes

1442
01:24:59.199 --> 01:25:04.319
in outdoor advent and focuses on authentic experiences. I think

1443
01:25:04.399 --> 01:25:08.199
that's the only way to experience, is to experience authentic experience,

1444
01:25:08.319 --> 01:25:10.199
just saying Chris, welcome the show.

1445
01:25:10.039 --> 01:25:13.840
Good to have you with us, Thank you, good to

1446
01:25:13.920 --> 01:25:14.199
be here.

1447
01:25:14.920 --> 01:25:19.079
Well, what should someone look for in a great fall destination?

1448
01:25:22.079 --> 01:25:24.279
Yeah, So, as an avid traveler, I've explored a lot

1449
01:25:24.319 --> 01:25:26.640
of places, but West Virginia in the fall is like

1450
01:25:26.800 --> 01:25:30.279
stepping straight into a postcard. It's the third most forested

1451
01:25:30.319 --> 01:25:32.800
state in the country, so the colors stretch on for

1452
01:25:33.119 --> 01:25:37.319
miles with these brilliant reds, oranges, and gold. The best

1453
01:25:37.359 --> 01:25:39.520
part is that West Virginia doesn't come with the big

1454
01:25:39.560 --> 01:25:42.399
city price tags or the packed crowds that you'd find

1455
01:25:42.439 --> 01:25:45.359
in other destinations. So whether you're driving down a winding

1456
01:25:45.399 --> 01:25:48.319
country road or hiking up to a mountain overlook, it's

1457
01:25:48.479 --> 01:25:50.640
just one breathtaking view after the next.

1458
01:25:51.760 --> 01:25:54.640
Well, the fall colors are absolutely no question, especially for

1459
01:25:54.720 --> 01:25:57.399
a California boy. I was born and raised in California.

1460
01:25:57.960 --> 01:26:01.199
When I got back from any Coast tour, went through

1461
01:26:01.640 --> 01:26:05.119
West Virginia, saw the brilliant colors and I said, hey,

1462
01:26:05.199 --> 01:26:07.560
I said, we are so you know, we don't even

1463
01:26:07.640 --> 01:26:09.920
know what's happening, because I'll tell you. You go back east,

1464
01:26:10.199 --> 01:26:12.800
you see these fall colors. They're so dynamic, I said,

1465
01:26:12.840 --> 01:26:15.720
Here in California, we're just used everything being smog brown,

1466
01:26:15.880 --> 01:26:23.000
you know. So so yes, it's absolutely gorgeous. Let's talk

1467
01:26:23.039 --> 01:26:30.119
about a favorite place to see. You know, these fall colors, Chris, Yeah.

1468
01:26:30.039 --> 01:26:32.079
So I'm so glad that you mentioned that. And the

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01:26:32.159 --> 01:26:32.720
East Coast.

1470
01:26:32.800 --> 01:26:35.079
I think for most people what comes to mind when

1471
01:26:35.079 --> 01:26:38.000
you think fall foliage is New England. But honestly, West

1472
01:26:38.079 --> 01:26:41.560
Virginia rivals it in every single way. The colors are

1473
01:26:41.800 --> 01:26:44.199
just as vibrant, if not more so, but the whole

1474
01:26:44.239 --> 01:26:47.560
experience just feels so much more personal, more approachable.

1475
01:26:48.039 --> 01:26:49.279
When I visited, which.

1476
01:26:49.159 --> 01:26:51.960
Is often by the way, I just loved how easy

1477
01:26:52.000 --> 01:26:55.479
it's been to stumble onto those wow moments without being

1478
01:26:55.560 --> 01:26:59.000
surrounded by taurusts. So right now, I'm that Snowshoe Mountain

1479
01:26:59.119 --> 01:26:59.560
and it is.

1480
01:27:00.079 --> 01:27:01.600
Out of this world in the fall.

1481
01:27:02.000 --> 01:27:04.600
Whether you're road tripping through the mountains or enjoying your

1482
01:27:04.640 --> 01:27:08.199
meal in town, West Virginia always delivers that small town

1483
01:27:08.279 --> 01:27:10.359
warmth that makes every trip unforgettable.

1484
01:27:11.119 --> 01:27:13.399
Well, don't you love it whenever you can enjoy natural

1485
01:27:13.720 --> 01:27:18.520
beauty at natural savings. I mean, it's just it's just

1486
01:27:18.880 --> 01:27:21.960
it's God just opening up these visitas for you. And

1487
01:27:22.520 --> 01:27:24.520
you know you don't have to pay a lot of money, do.

1488
01:27:24.600 --> 01:27:29.199
You Nope, that's the best part.

1489
01:27:29.760 --> 01:27:32.840
Right exactly. So, uh, let's talk about some of your

1490
01:27:32.880 --> 01:27:33.560
most favorites.

1491
01:27:36.399 --> 01:27:39.359
Yeah, So some of my favorite moments in West Virginia

1492
01:27:39.560 --> 01:27:43.720
have been hiking the Monongahila National Forest, driving those iconic

1493
01:27:43.840 --> 01:27:46.359
winding roads that seem to just go low with color

1494
01:27:46.479 --> 01:27:49.960
in the fall. There's also overlooks at New River Gorge

1495
01:27:50.079 --> 01:27:52.760
National Park, Blackwater Falls State Park.

1496
01:27:52.960 --> 01:27:54.239
I mean, they're unmatched.

1497
01:27:54.359 --> 01:27:57.439
So a fallse sunset at Lindy Point, for example, at

1498
01:27:57.479 --> 01:28:01.159
Blackwater Falls will literally live run in my head forever.

1499
01:28:02.199 --> 01:28:04.880
Some other all time favorites would be Spruce Knob, which

1500
01:28:04.960 --> 01:28:08.159
is the highest point in the state, Dolly Sad's Wilderness,

1501
01:28:08.239 --> 01:28:12.199
which is a very unique area. Cranberry Glades is as well,

1502
01:28:12.319 --> 01:28:16.359
a lot of unique plants, vegetation, flowers, all kinds of

1503
01:28:16.439 --> 01:28:16.920
things like that.

1504
01:28:17.560 --> 01:28:19.159
And then there are the mountain towns.

1505
01:28:18.920 --> 01:28:22.359
So places like Wardensville, where I've loved just wandering around

1506
01:28:22.399 --> 01:28:25.079
on a crispfall day, could pop into the little shops

1507
01:28:25.119 --> 01:28:28.760
and cafes, check out the handmade goods, maybe grab yourself

1508
01:28:28.800 --> 01:28:32.199
a freshly baked maple scone. West Virginia is full of

1509
01:28:32.319 --> 01:28:35.279
these colorful, cozy, unforgettable experiences.

1510
01:28:36.319 --> 01:28:38.039
Well, I gotta tell you, and you talk about a

1511
01:28:38.079 --> 01:28:40.840
family adventure. I know some people you know that may

1512
01:28:40.920 --> 01:28:43.520
not think they're nature lovers. They find out real quick

1513
01:28:43.560 --> 01:28:46.079
that you can adapt and fall in love with nature

1514
01:28:46.159 --> 01:28:48.640
all over again, or even fall in love with nature

1515
01:28:48.680 --> 01:28:49.239
the first time.

1516
01:28:49.359 --> 01:28:49.479
Right.

1517
01:28:51.920 --> 01:28:54.199
Absolutely, I mean you don't even have to like hiking.

1518
01:28:54.279 --> 01:28:56.359
There's so many spots in West Virginia that you could

1519
01:28:56.399 --> 01:28:59.199
literally just pull up to an overlook, or you could

1520
01:28:59.239 --> 01:29:01.960
park nearby and just have this beautiful scenery right in

1521
01:29:02.039 --> 01:29:04.920
front of you. One thing I love about blackwater Falls

1522
01:29:04.920 --> 01:29:08.279
honestly is that there's a handicap accessible overlook. So I

1523
01:29:08.359 --> 01:29:10.920
think that is just, you know, something that's that's unique

1524
01:29:10.960 --> 01:29:12.640
and is just is really nice.

1525
01:29:13.760 --> 01:29:18.319
So, you know, for family planning, how much time you know,

1526
01:29:18.520 --> 01:29:21.119
I imagine you could set you know, from you know,

1527
01:29:21.279 --> 01:29:24.119
hours to hours or days in terms of it. But

1528
01:29:24.560 --> 01:29:26.760
you know, but just in planning, you know, how much

1529
01:29:26.840 --> 01:29:29.760
time should we set aside to be able to experience

1530
01:29:29.840 --> 01:29:31.600
some of these highlights that you're talking about.

1531
01:29:33.920 --> 01:29:37.119
Yeah, honestly, you're not wrong. You could go from hours

1532
01:29:37.279 --> 01:29:41.000
to a couple of days to honestly, weeks. I would

1533
01:29:41.079 --> 01:29:44.119
say that the ideal timing you would want at least

1534
01:29:44.199 --> 01:29:47.279
a long weekend. I would say at least two full

1535
01:29:47.399 --> 01:29:50.760
days to really, because you want to have that authentic

1536
01:29:51.239 --> 01:29:53.640
experience that we talked about, right, You really want to

1537
01:29:53.720 --> 01:29:57.239
be able to experience at least a full twenty four

1538
01:29:57.319 --> 01:30:01.199
hours immersed in the natural beauty in the local community.

1539
01:30:01.640 --> 01:30:04.439
That's another favorite thing of mine is West Virginia is

1540
01:30:04.560 --> 01:30:08.600
just so friendly. The hospitality is phenomenal. People are kind

1541
01:30:08.760 --> 01:30:11.399
and friendly, and you really just want to experience everything

1542
01:30:11.720 --> 01:30:13.399
from sunrise to sunset.

1543
01:30:13.079 --> 01:30:16.600
In my opinion, and I like the idea of interacting

1544
01:30:16.680 --> 01:30:20.239
with the local community, Chris, because you get stories, you know,

1545
01:30:20.680 --> 01:30:23.800
and you have you know about traditions and things that

1546
01:30:24.159 --> 01:30:26.119
you're not going to catch. But just by sitting in

1547
01:30:26.199 --> 01:30:28.159
your car and looking, you know, looking at all the

1548
01:30:28.199 --> 01:30:31.640
beautiful scenery, right, this really adds a dimension to the

1549
01:30:31.680 --> 01:30:33.119
scenery and the whole experience.

1550
01:30:35.680 --> 01:30:36.640
It absolutely does.

1551
01:30:36.800 --> 01:30:39.319
That's one thing that blows me away every single time

1552
01:30:39.399 --> 01:30:42.920
I visit West Virginia. Every single place town that I

1553
01:30:43.039 --> 01:30:47.079
go to, there are so many people who are ready.

1554
01:30:46.800 --> 01:30:48.520
And willing to tell you the stories.

1555
01:30:48.640 --> 01:30:51.159
And I really think that learning all of that history

1556
01:30:51.319 --> 01:30:54.039
about the culture, it just makes it such a deeper

1557
01:30:54.119 --> 01:30:56.760
and more meaningful experience that's really going to stick with

1558
01:30:56.840 --> 01:30:57.399
you forever.

1559
01:30:58.239 --> 01:31:01.319
Now you realize you teased me with these maple scones.

1560
01:31:01.800 --> 01:31:05.119
That means maple scones, cup of coffee, and lots of

1561
01:31:05.199 --> 01:31:05.840
trail work.

1562
01:31:07.800 --> 01:31:10.119
Yes, yes, I mean, how could you go wrong? What

1563
01:31:10.199 --> 01:31:10.960
more could you ask for?

1564
01:31:11.520 --> 01:31:17.239
Well, exactly So. Besides the amazing leaves, what makes great

1565
01:31:17.319 --> 01:31:19.039
Fall trips stand out for you, Chris.

1566
01:31:21.560 --> 01:31:24.600
Yeah, what really sets West Virginia apart is the variety.

1567
01:31:24.680 --> 01:31:24.800
You know.

1568
01:31:24.880 --> 01:31:26.680
I know we've talked a little bit about that, but

1569
01:31:27.159 --> 01:31:29.680
you can easily go from exploring a state park or

1570
01:31:29.760 --> 01:31:32.760
hiking through the forest to then enjoying live music at

1571
01:31:32.800 --> 01:31:35.560
a local venue or tasting a farm to table meal.

1572
01:31:36.640 --> 01:31:39.239
My perfect fall day in West Virginia would go a

1573
01:31:39.279 --> 01:31:41.720
little something like this. I would start with the cozy

1574
01:31:41.760 --> 01:31:46.319
breakfast in Davis, then chase waterfalls at nearby Blackwaterfalls State Park,

1575
01:31:46.800 --> 01:31:49.600
ride the scene at chairlift at Canan Valley Resort, and

1576
01:31:49.720 --> 01:31:52.039
then wind down with dinner and live music and Thomas.

1577
01:31:52.720 --> 01:31:55.319
So on my past visits, I've always loved how every

1578
01:31:55.399 --> 01:31:57.880
stop just felt like it had its own character. In

1579
01:31:57.920 --> 01:32:02.520
West Virginia. You get this incredible mix of nature, history, heritage,

1580
01:32:02.640 --> 01:32:05.039
and that trademark hospitality all wrapped together.

1581
01:32:06.039 --> 01:32:08.439
Well, Chris, I mean, you laid out so many ideas

1582
01:32:08.760 --> 01:32:11.960
and I can see this as a planning issue, you know,

1583
01:32:12.560 --> 01:32:14.279
you know, And when I say issue, I don't think

1584
01:32:14.319 --> 01:32:17.000
in a negative way. It's just in terms of saying, hey,

1585
01:32:17.079 --> 01:32:19.720
there's a lot of options here, and if you're going

1586
01:32:19.760 --> 01:32:22.159
to spend a long weekend or you know, a couple

1587
01:32:22.239 --> 01:32:24.319
of days there, you want to make the most of it.

1588
01:32:24.760 --> 01:32:27.159
So where can you go? I mean, you've given us

1589
01:32:27.199 --> 01:32:30.199
some great suggestions. I'm taking notes, but then you know,

1590
01:32:30.439 --> 01:32:33.760
notes begets notes, you know, So where else can we

1591
01:32:33.880 --> 01:32:37.760
go to kind of, you know, get a good idea

1592
01:32:37.840 --> 01:32:39.720
of how we want to plan this trip out so

1593
01:32:39.840 --> 01:32:42.439
that we're you know, we're making the most of those days.

1594
01:32:46.199 --> 01:32:48.319
Absolutely, So I'll just tell you a couple of my

1595
01:32:48.399 --> 01:32:52.079
favorite things in West Virginia. I have loved slowing down

1596
01:32:52.319 --> 01:32:55.199
and honestly just enjoying the little things that there are,

1597
01:32:55.920 --> 01:32:58.880
the colors, the quiet, connecting with the local community. But

1598
01:32:59.039 --> 01:33:01.600
to learn more about planning a fall getaway and everything

1599
01:33:01.680 --> 01:33:02.560
West Virginia.

1600
01:33:02.319 --> 01:33:04.800
Has to offer, just visit wvtourism dot com.

1601
01:33:05.920 --> 01:33:10.840
In your experience, what has been the most amazing experience

1602
01:33:10.920 --> 01:33:14.399
or surprise or wow that has happened on this trip

1603
01:33:14.479 --> 01:33:15.279
to West Virginia.

1604
01:33:18.239 --> 01:33:20.760
Oh, my goodness, that is such a good question.

1605
01:33:20.960 --> 01:33:22.960
And I was just talking to somebody the other day

1606
01:33:23.000 --> 01:33:26.239
about I was visiting the Hatfield McCoy region, where there

1607
01:33:26.279 --> 01:33:31.359
are some phenomenal UTVATV trails. The history there the Hatfield

1608
01:33:31.479 --> 01:33:35.319
McCoy area, the history of the feud honestly phenomenal, just

1609
01:33:35.800 --> 01:33:36.239
so cool.

1610
01:33:37.720 --> 01:33:40.960
Well, I'll tell you, Chris Repchick, thank you so much.

1611
01:33:41.119 --> 01:33:45.159
I mean, you've really wet our appetite and you've gotten

1612
01:33:45.199 --> 01:33:47.920
this in the mood for the coming fall season and

1613
01:33:48.039 --> 01:33:52.119
anticipating the wonderful visas that are lying ahead for us

1614
01:33:52.159 --> 01:33:56.520
there and all these brilliant colors. Chris Repchick has teamed

1615
01:33:56.600 --> 01:34:00.000
up with West Virginia Tourism to reveal these amazing plays

1616
01:34:00.359 --> 01:34:02.920
to visit for a great fall vacation. And as we

1617
01:34:03.000 --> 01:34:05.600
wrap things up, Chris remind everybody of the website they

1618
01:34:05.640 --> 01:34:07.279
can go to for all the information.

1619
01:34:09.560 --> 01:34:11.600
Yeah, to learn more about planning a fall getaway and

1620
01:34:11.680 --> 01:34:15.479
everything West Virginia has to offer. Just visit wvtourism dot com.

1621
01:34:16.399 --> 01:34:19.479
Chris Rapcheck, thank you so much, Take care, happy travels

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01:34:19.520 --> 01:34:19.680
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Well, welcome back to America. Bill Martinez here. Great to

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have you with us sharing a part of your day.

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For more information on the show, you can check it

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out Bill Martinez Live dot com. We've got John mcfail

1706
01:38:33.560 --> 01:38:35.920
joining us. We're going to talk about his brand new

1707
01:38:36.159 --> 01:38:40.079
movie that is just so much fun and uh and

1708
01:38:40.279 --> 01:38:43.479
just in time for the season, John, But this is

1709
01:38:43.680 --> 01:38:47.079
this is really just a great family movie. A great

1710
01:38:47.159 --> 01:38:47.600
job on it.

1711
01:38:48.279 --> 01:38:50.239
Oh no, thanks boll. That that's that's exactly what I

1712
01:38:50.359 --> 01:38:54.479
was going for, Like like a love audiences. That's like

1713
01:38:54.560 --> 01:38:56.600
there's a whole reason I'm here as a filmmaker. It's

1714
01:38:56.640 --> 01:38:59.920
this all for audiences and the moment a petch That's

1715
01:39:00.119 --> 01:39:03.680
that's all I was thinking about. And like you hear

1716
01:39:03.720 --> 01:39:05.560
me seeing all the time, I want to take fate

1717
01:39:05.640 --> 01:39:09.880
that's like shared family experience and well.

1718
01:39:10.159 --> 01:39:12.800
John mcfeil is the director. He's an oord winning writer

1719
01:39:12.920 --> 01:39:16.119
and director known for crafting bold, heartfelt and hilarious stories.

1720
01:39:16.159 --> 01:39:19.520
That connect with audiences on a deeply emotional level. So

1721
01:39:19.880 --> 01:39:22.800
you're kind of catching his drift as he's sharing with us,

1722
01:39:22.840 --> 01:39:25.600
because you know, this takes you back to your roots, John,

1723
01:39:25.640 --> 01:39:28.520
I mean, you grew up with Friday night movies with

1724
01:39:28.600 --> 01:39:30.920
the family, and you know I could relate to that.

1725
01:39:31.079 --> 01:39:33.840
I think, you know, we and the kids when they

1726
01:39:33.880 --> 01:39:36.439
were growing up. That was, you know, part of the tradition.

1727
01:39:36.640 --> 01:39:38.560
So I could relate to what you're saying. And that

1728
01:39:38.760 --> 01:39:42.880
really helped you know, forge your you know, your artwork

1729
01:39:42.960 --> 01:39:45.800
and your background and you know, little did you know

1730
01:39:46.039 --> 01:39:47.640
it was your classroom.

1731
01:39:47.760 --> 01:39:51.640
Huh oh? Like like like my so my mom used

1732
01:39:51.680 --> 01:39:56.359
to tape all sorts of movies off the TV don't

1733
01:39:56.439 --> 01:39:58.920
watch them and still have the ad vails in between its.

1734
01:40:01.720 --> 01:40:03.479
Or we would go down tore like Blockbuster and we

1735
01:40:03.479 --> 01:40:06.960
would read movies. Yeah back in the days, you know,

1736
01:40:08.399 --> 01:40:12.319
like like like the Goonies, like at Shot Circa. Like

1737
01:40:12.399 --> 01:40:13.920
you know, like there's so many movies that sort of

1738
01:40:13.960 --> 01:40:16.720
grew up way that even now when I rewatched them,

1739
01:40:16.760 --> 01:40:18.760
it sort of transports me back to being a kid

1740
01:40:18.880 --> 01:40:21.199
and my parents' living room, you know, with them sitting

1741
01:40:21.199 --> 01:40:23.239
behind on the couch and my brother next to me,

1742
01:40:23.439 --> 01:40:27.199
just sort of like enthralled in some adventure, like some

1743
01:40:27.319 --> 01:40:30.640
Indiana Jones movie, a Star Wars, you know whatever. It

1744
01:40:30.880 --> 01:40:35.359
was like yeah, so so yeah, like my mother's got

1745
01:40:35.399 --> 01:40:37.279
a lot to answer answer for.

1746
01:40:39.119 --> 01:40:41.720
Well, well, thank your mother. You know, she's so sweet

1747
01:40:41.800 --> 01:40:45.359
and taking you through that experience. So tell us about

1748
01:40:45.399 --> 01:40:48.319
this movie. Grow How did this come across you know,

1749
01:40:48.800 --> 01:40:50.159
you know, come across your transit?

1750
01:40:51.039 --> 01:40:54.720
So it was so it was originally setting in the States.

1751
01:40:54.840 --> 01:40:57.279
It was written more than fifteen years ago. It was

1752
01:40:57.319 --> 01:40:59.479
a company called Double Nickel. They're based in New York.

1753
01:41:01.079 --> 01:41:05.920
They've just done the Double Nicles based in New York.

1754
01:41:06.680 --> 01:41:10.239
They'd just done like a movie there with Oh god, sorry,

1755
01:41:10.319 --> 01:41:13.920
let me try that again. It was so it was

1756
01:41:14.000 --> 01:41:16.880
risally an American movie. It was set about fifteen years ago.

1757
01:41:17.079 --> 01:41:20.920
So I said, so I'll start all again, Bill, Okay,

1758
01:41:22.560 --> 01:41:24.680
it came across my desk because it was an American

1759
01:41:24.800 --> 01:41:28.159
company called Double Nickel. They had they had been developing

1760
01:41:28.199 --> 01:41:31.720
it for over like like fifteen years ago, sitting like

1761
01:41:31.800 --> 01:41:35.720
in the back burner. We've been talking to Sky in

1762
01:41:35.800 --> 01:41:39.279
the UK about another another film, and that they'd mentioned

1763
01:41:39.319 --> 01:41:41.920
this and they were like, oh, we love this this

1764
01:41:42.000 --> 01:41:45.319
sounds incredible, and they looked for the UK, So there

1765
01:41:45.479 --> 01:41:48.680
is there is that sort of like baked into it,

1766
01:41:48.800 --> 01:41:51.439
that sort of like international audience. There's that sort of

1767
01:41:51.479 --> 01:41:54.960
Americanism that sort of built into that. And as you

1768
01:41:55.039 --> 01:41:58.279
heard me saying, like, I love American movies, I grew

1769
01:41:58.359 --> 01:42:02.039
up watching America. Having that opportunity to sort of make

1770
01:42:02.119 --> 01:42:06.199
a sort of best of brash film but with an

1771
01:42:06.199 --> 01:42:09.760
American twist, like you know, americanisms and sort of things,

1772
01:42:09.840 --> 01:42:14.319
they sort of that I'm winking American audiences, right, Yeah,

1773
01:42:15.560 --> 01:42:17.920
Like I couldn't pass that up. But as you say,

1774
01:42:17.960 --> 01:42:21.399
they developed this for the UK and they were looking

1775
01:42:21.439 --> 01:42:24.000
for a director and I was lucky enough to get

1776
01:42:24.039 --> 01:42:25.319
the job after pitching for it.

1777
01:42:26.720 --> 01:42:26.920
Yeah.

1778
01:42:27.039 --> 01:42:29.600
So as you say, from that moment, I was just

1779
01:42:29.680 --> 01:42:33.119
I just wanted to make a really fun family something

1780
01:42:33.159 --> 01:42:34.840
for the par and something for the kids.

1781
01:42:35.119 --> 01:42:38.039
Yeah, exactly. Well what a story. I mean, there's Pumpkins

1782
01:42:38.119 --> 01:42:40.640
back on the shelf and it's just crying out, Let

1783
01:42:40.720 --> 01:42:43.720
me out, Let me out. For fifteen years, that's correat

1784
01:42:44.359 --> 01:42:49.199
not say, Yeah, well, what a great idea. So you're

1785
01:42:49.239 --> 01:42:52.279
able to pull it off the shelf now, and so

1786
01:42:52.439 --> 01:42:54.800
you've put quite the team together. Here, tell us about

1787
01:42:54.840 --> 01:42:56.680
the team that you got working on this project.

1788
01:42:57.560 --> 01:43:02.199
So I don't like so from my timematograph, George Geddess

1789
01:43:02.239 --> 01:43:05.039
had always wanted to work with George is BROIWI kids

1790
01:43:05.039 --> 01:43:08.600
as well. Got so much patience, real, real fun, positive

1791
01:43:08.720 --> 01:43:11.079
guy and I knew with him said behind the camera,

1792
01:43:11.479 --> 01:43:14.840
it's not going to be something somebody grumpy. That's and

1793
01:43:15.000 --> 01:43:17.159
he's got a great eye. He's got he's a wonderful eye.

1794
01:43:17.279 --> 01:43:21.319
So like in my designer Jamie Lapsley, she's just incredible,

1795
01:43:21.399 --> 01:43:24.319
like having to design all those big, massive pumpkins and

1796
01:43:24.439 --> 01:43:26.800
sort of from the small ones to the big ones,

1797
01:43:27.039 --> 01:43:29.760
and you know they've almost got their own little personalities.

1798
01:43:29.880 --> 01:43:33.600
So you want to play into that. And like the

1799
01:43:33.760 --> 01:43:37.720
j X wet we modeled the g X or what

1800
01:43:37.960 --> 01:43:40.039
like off the back of our body, build us back,

1801
01:43:41.840 --> 01:43:44.399
get muscles on muscles on muscles, and like you know

1802
01:43:44.720 --> 01:43:48.760
that's the sort of divots into it. So so yeah,

1803
01:43:48.840 --> 01:43:52.880
and obviously like like an incredible cast, like a wonderful cast,

1804
01:43:53.039 --> 01:43:56.960
like like I think we found like an absolute diamond

1805
01:43:57.079 --> 01:44:00.960
where we prea place. Charlie, she's only she's eight years old.

1806
01:44:01.000 --> 01:44:03.680
When we show at the best like and unbelievable. I mean,

1807
01:44:03.880 --> 01:44:06.279
she just owns the screen.

1808
01:44:07.520 --> 01:44:11.600
Whenever, whenever, pre gold, Dot and Neck together, the three

1809
01:44:11.640 --> 01:44:13.720
of them, it's just like it's just magic, you know,

1810
01:44:13.840 --> 01:44:16.560
absolutely magic. And then I love it, absolutely love it.

1811
01:44:17.119 --> 01:44:20.199
Well, there's no doubt about it. In the course when

1812
01:44:20.279 --> 01:44:23.920
you have you know, a team that's positive and there's

1813
01:44:24.520 --> 01:44:27.439
you know, you don't have ego tension and junk like

1814
01:44:27.520 --> 01:44:30.000
that that can get in the way. I mean, there's

1815
01:44:30.039 --> 01:44:33.760
nothing like that to stifle creativity. But you can sense

1816
01:44:33.840 --> 01:44:35.760
in this movie and how you tell the story that

1817
01:44:36.720 --> 01:44:39.760
you had a real fine you know, sweet spot and

1818
01:44:39.840 --> 01:44:41.880
rhythm in putting this all together.

1819
01:44:42.600 --> 01:44:44.920
Oh no, not totally, like and like you mentioned that,

1820
01:44:45.039 --> 01:44:47.600
which has like like collaboration, Like there was like so

1821
01:44:47.800 --> 01:44:52.199
much collaboration and like creativity from everybody because like I'll

1822
01:44:52.239 --> 01:44:55.399
love creating us like a free and safe space for us,

1823
01:44:56.079 --> 01:44:58.279
because we're all artists, like you know, and I'm get

1824
01:44:58.359 --> 01:45:00.439
to work with people who are all amazing what they

1825
01:45:00.520 --> 01:45:03.439
do and my job is to manage that and sort

1826
01:45:03.479 --> 01:45:05.720
of bring out the best in everybody. And you know,

1827
01:45:06.760 --> 01:45:10.079
oh and you know obviously you know we're working towards something.

1828
01:45:10.159 --> 01:45:12.720
But allowing as I said that that that freedom and

1829
01:45:13.439 --> 01:45:16.840
like like Golda Rojavel, who is my number one on

1830
01:45:16.960 --> 01:45:20.720
the call sheet, was just just incredible, like a woman,

1831
01:45:21.079 --> 01:45:23.880
What an actress, but also what a woman. She's so cool,

1832
01:45:24.239 --> 01:45:27.640
she's so funny, she's so given, she's so kind, Like

1833
01:45:27.720 --> 01:45:29.600
she think a trailer. She never went to a trailer,

1834
01:45:29.680 --> 01:45:32.039
saying we Nick Frost never went to Australia. Nick just

1835
01:45:32.119 --> 01:45:35.119
wanted to sit on an apple box and talk to

1836
01:45:35.199 --> 01:45:38.119
the camera team and the grips, like in the electrocal department.

1837
01:45:38.199 --> 01:45:41.079
I just wanted to talk about cameras and play with toys.

1838
01:45:41.720 --> 01:45:44.319
Alda just like we're just you know, there's the same

1839
01:45:44.439 --> 01:45:46.520
be just the most fun just as I sa SI

1840
01:45:46.680 --> 01:45:49.640
on set having fun with the art department and the

1841
01:45:49.720 --> 01:45:53.560
costume department and like yeah, honestly, like it was the

1842
01:45:53.680 --> 01:45:56.000
most fun set I've ever been on, Like the most

1843
01:45:56.039 --> 01:45:58.760
fun set. And you know, I feel like you can

1844
01:45:58.880 --> 01:46:02.479
feel that you can feel like exactly making it, you

1845
01:46:02.600 --> 01:46:05.479
know ander and of the film itself.

1846
01:46:05.800 --> 01:46:07.640
She wasn't one of those type of actors that just

1847
01:46:07.760 --> 01:46:09.439
wanted blue M and m's or something like that.

1848
01:46:09.640 --> 01:46:12.880
Right, honestly, some of them, to mind, like none of

1849
01:46:12.920 --> 01:46:17.159
them demanded anything, like nothing you know, like like were

1850
01:46:17.399 --> 01:46:21.000
they were genuinely just really lovely, lovely people and like

1851
01:46:21.560 --> 01:46:24.720
you know, you for you know, you you sometimes build

1852
01:46:24.760 --> 01:46:28.039
people up in your head of like celebrities for them

1853
01:46:28.079 --> 01:46:31.039
when you meet them and they'll just exact savings. They

1854
01:46:31.199 --> 01:46:32.760
just want to have fun. They just want to have

1855
01:46:32.760 --> 01:46:34.479
a nice day at work. They just want to go

1856
01:46:34.560 --> 01:46:36.199
home at the end of the night and you know,

1857
01:46:36.680 --> 01:46:40.039
like up and do it again. You know, like it's yeah,

1858
01:46:40.239 --> 01:46:41.279
that's that's all you want.

1859
01:46:41.720 --> 01:46:43.520
Well, we're talking with joh mcfallly's the director of the

1860
01:46:43.560 --> 01:46:44.520
new movie Grow.

1861
01:46:45.159 --> 01:46:45.279
Uh.

1862
01:46:45.520 --> 01:46:48.000
I got to imagine with this crew and you're talking

1863
01:46:48.039 --> 01:46:51.640
about the chemistry. Uh, there had to be some surprises

1864
01:46:52.039 --> 01:46:54.359
that maybe caught you off script. You know, they go,

1865
01:46:54.560 --> 01:46:57.399
wait what but it was so brilliant. Can you share

1866
01:46:57.680 --> 01:46:58.680
some of those perhaps?

1867
01:46:59.199 --> 01:46:59.319
Oh?

1868
01:46:59.439 --> 01:47:01.439
Those like so many, Like there's loads of them, Like

1869
01:47:01.680 --> 01:47:04.279
so Joe wilkeson like quite a lot of his lines,

1870
01:47:04.399 --> 01:47:06.760
like like you know, there's don't I give away, there's

1871
01:47:06.760 --> 01:47:08.720
a gag at the end where like you know, like

1872
01:47:08.800 --> 01:47:11.640
a pumpkin and as I say, like his his line

1873
01:47:12.039 --> 01:47:15.279
like Camember trying everything like oh I didn't expect that,

1874
01:47:15.479 --> 01:47:17.640
you know that just sort of like it just ends me.

1875
01:47:18.039 --> 01:47:20.319
There's so many things that even pre I did. I

1876
01:47:20.319 --> 01:47:23.000
would always say to the kids, like go with your gut,

1877
01:47:23.319 --> 01:47:25.640
like we'll just go again if it's if it's not

1878
01:47:25.760 --> 01:47:27.880
good like and she would just go with things and

1879
01:47:28.039 --> 01:47:31.720
just like and the same with Golda. I told her

1880
01:47:32.640 --> 01:47:37.520
she supports like the the when Nick when they so

1881
01:47:37.720 --> 01:47:39.840
when you go to Arlow for the first time and

1882
01:47:40.000 --> 01:47:43.039
he slaps it on their face like they're just supposed

1883
01:47:43.079 --> 01:47:45.760
to just barge in. But Prea she just tns and goes,

1884
01:47:46.199 --> 01:47:48.560
oh well, and goes to walk away, and then you know,

1885
01:47:48.920 --> 01:47:50.960
like she gets grabbed by Golda who holds the door

1886
01:47:51.000 --> 01:47:53.319
and says you wanted this and just launching this in

1887
01:47:53.520 --> 01:47:56.039
and again that's that's that's them, that's all of them,

1888
01:47:56.199 --> 01:48:00.439
you know. That's how again they have that freedom the kid.

1889
01:48:00.600 --> 01:48:03.840
This sounds really sick. There's a lot of Simpsons references.

1890
01:48:03.920 --> 01:48:09.800
I love the Simpsons, love drama, but love right like

1891
01:48:09.960 --> 01:48:12.119
the kid. I kept on saying, you like you're Bart Simpson,

1892
01:48:12.840 --> 01:48:15.920
you know, like little things like that, and like little

1893
01:48:16.039 --> 01:48:18.960
noises she'd make when she's throwing things or kicking things

1894
01:48:19.079 --> 01:48:25.239
or you know exactly you know, you know, and yeah,

1895
01:48:25.399 --> 01:48:26.880
so there's a there's a lot of fun in there.

1896
01:48:28.159 --> 01:48:32.560
Jeremy Swift. In fact, Facio who plays Kevin, you know,

1897
01:48:33.279 --> 01:48:37.720
he goes up to chat up the pumpkin like full

1898
01:48:37.760 --> 01:48:42.000
of orange, like that's all. That's all improv like like

1899
01:48:42.119 --> 01:48:44.079
he was just supposed to be like but but but

1900
01:48:44.479 --> 01:48:46.720
and then like god to sort of like let's let's

1901
01:48:46.840 --> 01:48:48.800
like let's chat up the pumpkin. And those are all

1902
01:48:48.880 --> 01:48:51.960
Facios lines, all of them. It was so many. He

1903
01:48:52.119 --> 01:48:55.960
just was them all off. It was very very funny.

1904
01:48:56.279 --> 01:48:57.039
Well it had to be.

1905
01:48:57.119 --> 01:48:59.520
And there you are as the director and you're watching this,

1906
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you know, evolve right before your eyes, and you go, hey,

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you got to let it ride right.

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Oh no, one hundred percent like for me anyway, Like again,

1909
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I love cast I love actors because I can't act.

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I'm terrible active. That's why I'm on this side of

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the camera. So like again like like giving them that love,

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like sort of saying like trusting them and sort of saying,

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you know, like you know, particularly in those blocking stages

1914
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when you're sort of getting together running the lines and

1915
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seeing them, I've got an idea, I like this, I

1916
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can I try this, you know, and usually what we

1917
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I always like to do is take one in two

1918
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or mine, like you know, like we nail these. You know,

1919
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if you get it done in three, great, you know

1920
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if you get it done browning and then takes three

1921
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and four or four and five or yours, like do

1922
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you want have fun?

1923
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Like you know exactly, well, how did the themes of

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loneliness and connection influence your creative choices in shaping this

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movie grow?

1926
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Well?

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Like the sort of that that connection, like like I

1928
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wanted to do it through like like obviously there's like

1929
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there's those changes through their costumes, like you know, they

1930
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start to get brighter, they start to kind of mirror

1931
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each other, Golda and Charlie like those two are like

1932
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the sort of like what I knew would ground the film,

1933
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Like like those with those there there was the relationship

1934
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everybody was going to root for, like is the two

1935
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of them and making sure that like their relationship and

1936
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the growth of their relationship influences a lot of the

1937
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things in around there. So as they start to really connect,

1938
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like the farm starts to come to life, like everything

1939
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starts to become that little bit brighter, that little bit

1940
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more colorful. The color plant starts to sort of like

1941
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really finish off like I've I've got a beautiful color

1942
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palette running through there, and I love color telling through

1943
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story and and having as I say, this sort of

1944
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like that. So the kitchen is my favorite set in

1945
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the whole film. I love it. It's just her workshed,

1946
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like she's working on on the table and it just

1947
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on everywhere. And by the end of it, like you know,

1948
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it feels like a proper kitchen, like you know, and

1949
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like the kitchen as a as a family room, it's

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just where everything comes together. It's the best place at parties,

1951
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right exactly. It's where we all you know where. It's

1952
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just it's just such a family room. And having the

1953
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ability to let that grow and become and feel like

1954
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a proper kitchen like a proper family room was like

1955
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was it was something that would help subtlely get the

1956
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audience there. I sort of can feel that back connection

1957
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not only through them the performances and the sort of

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the story, but through the esthetic.

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Well, just in time for Halloween, the movie grow and

1960
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uplifting and heartwarming family film for movie lovers of all ages.

1961
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I mean, there's no doubt about it. This is going

1962
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to touch everybody in the family and American audiences, as

1963
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you said, John mcpheil, are going to love it and

1964
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eat this thing up without a doubt. And this is

1965
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a Fathom event, right.

1966
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Yes, file of event. So like I'm I'm I'm stoked.

1967
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I'm so stoked. You know that we're getting a theatrical release.

1968
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It's like that's the dream and it and.

1969
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The premiere is on October the third.

1970
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Right, Toba thumped and like, as I think it's one

1971
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two hundred screens.

1972
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Wow, that's great, excellent, So get your tickets now and

1973
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uh and for more information, what's the website they can

1974
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go to, John.

1975
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Thank You's on Fathom dot com. I have to actually

1976
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know that's money.

1977
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I'm trying to double check in the notes here real quick.

1978
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But that's okay. We can, we can, uh you know,

1979
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we we have post editing to here. You know, Fathom.

1980
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Go ahead, Monique, I can't hear you. I'm sorry, I

1981
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can't read lips. Grow the growthfilm dot com and grow

1982
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It's it's a Fathom event. Grow thefilm dot com is

1983
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the website.

1984
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Grow the film dot com is the website.

1985
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Yeah, see what we do without Monique?

1986
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Huh uh, thank you. The ponic though.

1987
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That's great. Well, all right, okay, John McPhail, the director

1988
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of Growth, John, thank you so much for being with us.

1989
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Take care, have a great day, and look forward to

1990
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seeing the movie on the big screen with everybody here

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in America twelve hundred screens and Fathom Entertainment Events.

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