Sept. 22, 2025

The Bill Martinez Show 09 22 25

The Bill Martinez Show 09 22 25
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The Bill Martinez Show 09 22 25
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Are you ready? Yeah, Okay, let's do it.

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Ill Martinez Live a program about current events, our culture,

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our values, our politics, and our future.

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And now Bill Martinez.

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Well, good morning America. Bill Martinez Here. Six minutes after

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the top of the hour, we got Liz Peak, the

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former Wall Street analyst and Manhattan based Fox News contributor. Hey, Liz,

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how we doing just great?

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Thank you? Thanks for having me on.

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Hey. Always great to have you on here. Of course,

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a heavy weekend, you know, with the memorial for Charlie

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Kirk and his life and influence continues. It's it's been

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really amazing to see what's going on here, Liz, and

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that is that it is bringing conservative It's like a

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rebirth of conservatism. And maybe it's always been there, but

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it's like the silent majority has decided, Okay, enough of

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this bullying, and Charlie took a bullet for us, and

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we're gonna, you know, we're going to stand up.

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Yeah. I think that's true.

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I think none of it would be happening frankly without

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Donald Trump. I mean, had he not been elected, I

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think the silent majority would have continued to be silent,

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and instead he is willing to say anything just about

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challenge anybody breaking all kinds of norms, as we are

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told frequently by the left, but the norms that should

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be broken, frankly, challenging the fact that the media is

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one hundred percent politically to the left, and challenging.

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The fact and violent Liz, forget about this this latest deal.

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I had doctor John Lott on the other day. We

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were breaking down the numbers that the ADL was putting

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out there and saying that all the violence was coming

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from the right. That's a bunch of bunk.

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Yeah, I don't I don't understand how they get to

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that conclusion, to be honest with you.

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I mean, they're working the numbers. I mean, that's what

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the left does. I don't care if we're talking labor,

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we're talking COVID deak, I mean, anything the government has

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to do with numbers. I mean it's a it's a

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terrible commentary on public education because they didn't learn.

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Math, well they did.

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I think that's the problem that actually they are very manipulative.

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And I agree with you.

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I mean, look at that all the statistics on crime,

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which purportedly show that crime is going down everywhere, Well

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it may be that post COVID, we had a spike

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and now it's somewhat lower. But all these Democrat may

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as saying, oh, no, we're solving the crime problem, and

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the residents of Chicago and Washington, DC and.

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New York look around, go wait a minute, no we haven't.

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And here's here's how they fudge the crime numbers.

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This is off the topic, but what they do is

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they look at where not not the crimes that are

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accused or that actually take place, but what they do

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is they look at the convictions or the mostly the

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plea bargains goes. I think ninety percent of criminal charges

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end up in a plea bargain. So if you're caught

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breaking into a store using a deadly weapon, holding somebody

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up at gunpoint, that gets pleated down or pled down

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to entering and breaking an entery. So the numbers don't

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even and I mean I've actually done work on this,

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I can guarantee you the numbers don't look at all

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like what actually happens in real fact. But to your point,

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it is just another example of I mean, how they

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have come up with numbers that show the right is violence,

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where every single headline thing we see is the other way.

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I don't know.

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Well, you know the thing is is that and you're

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well aware, you know, coming from an industry where numbers

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are critical, the data is key. What's going to happen

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I think twenty years from now that that generation is

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going to look back on this period of time and go,

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don't we don't even want to All that data is invalid.

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You know, it's been used, it's invalid. If we use that,

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we're going to be led down the wrong road here

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because they've worked the numbers in such a way, whether

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it had to do with COVID and all that we

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went through there, how they juice those numbers labor statistics,

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the economy and that. I mean, this is terrible for

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people going down, Like I said, twenty years from now,

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and you want to rely on the history and the

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information that the previous generations have passed on to you.

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But it's almost like we want to put an asterisk

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even before they do, to say hey, beware, Yeah, you're

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not getting the whole truth here.

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Okay, Yeah, but Bill, you're much more of an optimist

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than I am, because I think twenty thirty years from now,

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they're going to go to AI and AI will have

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scooped up all the information from the Washington Post, the

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New York Times, the economists, et cetera. And basically they're

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going to be telling their side of the story, and

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that is literally where people are going to get their information.

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I think it's extremely alarming. I don't have no idea

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what to do about it, except I keep hoping that

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Elon Musk with GROC will actually try to make sure

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that his site is more fact based than ideological. But

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the reality is, when I go on Grock to research

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something that isn't true, I mean, it's just as left

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wing as all the others.

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Right. Well, you know, getting back to what you were

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talking about earlier in terms of conservatism, the other characteristic

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that the silent majority has embraced is they had been cowering.

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And when you talk about the Donald Trump effect, Donald

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Trump has demonstrated to the silent majority that you don't

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have to cower that. You know, I don't care how

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many indictments you get, how many false accusations you get.

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You know, God bless him for everything this man has

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gone through, including evading a bullet. It's by the grace

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of God. I mean, he's real And now you know,

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with the Charlie Kirk effect. I think, I think this minority,

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which has been given a big platform, I think too

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big for its bridges, and they've bullied, They've bullied everybody

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enough that I think that they're going to be into

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their come up and and realize that they're greatly outnumbered,

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because this silent majority is going to stop being silent

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and they're going to stop cowering. Liz.

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I hope, so, I hope so.

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I mean the most positive indication of that would certainly

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be the changing of young minds. And that is, of course,

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what Charlie Kirk was famous for. What's so refreshing and

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sort of encouraging is that young people do have open minds.

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They're not being trained and taught at schools that share

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that openness. By the way, but I think when Charlie

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went to campuses and was willing to argue points that

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were taken as gospel by the leftist professors that are

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teaching our young kids and stuff, kids listen, they actually

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liked to hear what he had to say. And here's

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something that I don't think has gotten nearly enough attention.

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I wrote a piece that came out I don't know

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Monday on Fox News about the fact that the Democrats

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basically are teaching our kids is such a negative story,

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such a negative narrative about our country, about capitalism, about

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their chances at a better life. They are trying to

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convince kids, and they have convinced far too many that the.

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American dream is dead, that there is nothing to live for.

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And you knows some of these kids are so despairing.

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The kid, and he was a kid, a young man

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that shot Charlie Kirk clearly felt I've forget his language exactly,

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but that there was no way to counter the hate

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that he thought Charlie Kirk was spewing, even though you

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and I can agree he was not doing that, but

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his interpretation of it, or however he had read it.

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He didn't know what to do.

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The kid that shot the CEO of United Healthcare, same

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thing he was. He felt like committing an act of

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violence was the only outcome, the only outlet he had.

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So I really charge Democrats with this, And it's not

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just I mean, it's the people on the left like

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AOC and Senator Sanders and Elizabeth Warren who are constantly

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telling young people you have no future, but worse they

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have stolen it from you. If someone's a billionaire, they

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are robbing you. And let me tell you something that

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is exactly the language that they are out with. I mean,

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how do you not end up inflamed with anger and

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hatred when AOC is telling you that you've been cheated?

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I mean that exactly, that is really the truth. And

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I have to say I think it is an appalling

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message and just extremely damaging to our country.

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Without a doubt. Gotta go to Quick Break more from

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Bill Martinez's list Peak. I spent over twenty years on

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Wall Street, most of them a top rank research analysues.

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A Fox News contributor, Liz, you know, as you were

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saying this rhetoric, and you and I have been talking

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about it and warning people that something was going to

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happen unfortunately, like what happened with Charlie Kirk. And but

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in talking about these kids, one of the things that

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I saw that was very obvious to me is that

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when Charlie went to the campus and started, I mean,

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he brought the truth, he brought facts with them, He

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took out of the realm of opinion. And these kids

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were like you know, some kids. You could see they

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were going you know what. I kind of thought that

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I wasn't sure my factor was telling me. So I

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sensed that dynamic in a lot of these conversations, and

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you know some of the things that like Jimmy Kimmel

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was suggesting in that and you know, we can touch

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on that if you want to, but and only want

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to touch on it because he, you know, Jimmy Kimmel

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created his own demise for himself and everybody else that

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that worked for him on that show by flat out

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lying about about Charlie Kirk. And some people just they

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didn't they didn't know Charlie and they didn't really know

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his message, and they were being told that he was hateful.

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He wasn't hateful. Charlie was there putting himself in danger.

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He knew he was putting himself in danger. Yeah, by

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going to these adversarial environments and raising these questions and

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having a conversation and suddenly, as you said, these kids'

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lives mattered. And I think he was very respectful. He

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wasn't like he was getting in an argument with them

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and beating them down in closing no noes or anything

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like that.

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I totally agree he was respectful.

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And the respect shows in that he took their questions seriously.

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He took their debate seriously.

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But as you say, he was very for a self

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taught guy, didn't go to college, he was self taught,

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well read.

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And he had the facts. He could bring the facts.

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But I want to go back to people probably think

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I'm exaggerating about what the Democrats the other side of

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the coin, Charlie had a message of hope, inspiration. You know,

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love your family, love your country, love your God, and

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you will be Okay. Here is what I want to

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just quote to you what AOC is telling people on

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the trail on this oligarchy tour. She's telling them that

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Republican politics quoting lying to and screwing over working and

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middle class Americans so they can steal from our healthcare,

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social security and benefits, veterans benefits to pay for tax

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cuts for the wealthiest and bailouts for their crypto billionaire friends.

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Another comment, she said, these tech billionaires aren't working for

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these billions, they're stealing them from you and me. Now,

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you know, if you're a young person and you're living

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in your parents' basement and you can't figure out how

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to buy a house or get ahead, those words are

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going to inspire, inspire you to really hate the establishment

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people who are six cessfool. You're going to hate basically

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our political system. This is incendiary, and it's so damaging.

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And what does it get you? It gets her money

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of fame, you know, contributions to her political campaign. Does

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it really make the country better? I really I asked that. Honestly,

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I don't think exactly.

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Well, and this comes from a former bartender. Yeah, what

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was she what was she making before she went into Congress?

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You know, come on, give me a break. And the

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millions of dollars that she has in her in her

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war chest.

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Yeah, she's she's I mean, but she is part of

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the problem. And Charlie Kirk was part of the answer.

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An interesting factoid, and I ran across as doing research

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on this. Numerous all kinds of polling and surveys have

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shown conservatives are happier than liberals.

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And you have to say, why, Well.

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Let's see your your you are, You love your God,

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you love your country, you love your family. That is

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the essence of well being, Bill, What does the other

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side have?

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Nothing?

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You love the big state, you love bureaucracy. I don't

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think there's a comparable that it doesn't compare. You can't

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make people happy that way.

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Well exactly, especially when you're beholding to the government and

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the government is saying that they're going to provide for you.

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I mean, mom, Donnie, we're going to get to free

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bus rides, you know, government housing and government stores and

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that sort of thing. I mean, that's never worked anywhere.

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It robs people of their dignity, that idea that you know,

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and part of that equation, Liz, is people have to

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have a sense of productivity.

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Now you have to.

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Feel like they've earned their way. You deprive them of that,

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and you frustrate the holy what have you out of

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them because they become less than and they're mediocritized.

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I agree, I mean I think one of the more

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concerning things looking forward is that AI is coming.

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AI is going to take a lot of jobs.

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Are going to have to figure out we really are

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going to have people are going to very quickly have

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to figure out what they do if they wanted to

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be a paralegal and now that job has been replaced

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by a bot.

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And that that's going to happen. It is happening.

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Companies are spending tens of billions of dollars on what

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should be a productivity move, but it's not going to

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be productive if it means an awful lot of Americans

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and people around the world, not just America don't know

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where to earn their living. Because I agree with you

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the Happiness Project, all these people who have studied this,

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they conclude that productive people, working people doesn't mean you

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have to be a bricklayer. It means you can be

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an artist, you can be a writer, you can whatever

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it does. Whatever you do to be productive and hopefully

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earn a living. That is your salvation. And it is

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absolutely true. I believe at one hundred percent.

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Well, and look at the studies that are coming out

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lives on these trades jobs. I mean, you know, these

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kids that have decided not to go to college and

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pick up a trade. Uh, they've been almost you know,

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they found himself in recession proof employment. Yeah, and they're

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doing quite well. I mean they're making six figures. And meanwhile,

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you got these kids coming out of college. They can't

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find a job. They're stuck in their parents' basements and thinking,

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wait a minute, where's my certificate here? And they promised

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me that I was going to be doing so well.

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And look at my peers from high school. That knucklehead

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he's making he's making six figures, uh, you know, doing

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doing his trade job. That doesn't seem right.

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Yeah, yeah, no, I mean it's exactly right.

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It's a very uh, it's a very obvious thing to

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anyone who looks at it that we should never have

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pushed everybody to go to college.

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Not everybody.

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And we do have a serious shortage of some skills

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in this country. You know, a good plumber, a good electrician,

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all those kinds of jobs. They are highly valued now,

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and to your point, more highly valued then the guy

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that can you know, write a spreadsheet or you know,

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do financial math or whatever.

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Right, Exactly a lot of people can do that.

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So I mean a lot of things are screwed up,

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but I sort of feel like things are getting a

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little bit and I think screwed up.

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Yeah, I think so. And I think even with AI,

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if we're left, you know, to our own devices and

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get government regulation out of there, the people will rise.

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The cream always rises. We'll reinvent ourselves. Just give us

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that opportunity. But if you know, if you get the

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Democrats in play and they think they're going to orchestrate something,

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Lord have mercy, they will complicate it and make it

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a hot mess. We got a couple of minutes left here.

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And the only reason I say that is because that's

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been the history of the Democratic Party. Yeah, I have

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two minutes left here. Palell not only too late, but

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too little. I think, what do you say, Well.

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Look, I don't think he could have done fifty basis points.

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Cutting by twenty five is not that meaningful, but it's

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a move in the right direction.

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When I say he couldn't do the other.

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I think that would have looked much too political, And

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I think Powell has been beaten up so much by

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Donald Trump he didn't want to look political, and frankly,

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it would have been an admission that he was too late.

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So I think the twenty five is exactly what I expected.

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Market seemed happy, and you know, right now everyone's been

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talking stagflation. Right now, we've got an economy growing at

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three percent. The real problem with the Fed right now,

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Bill is J. Powell does not believe in the Trump agenda.

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He doesn't believe in deregulation and lower taxes being able

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to boost the economy. He's got growth poor casts out

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there of one point six percent. We just had a

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three point three I think it was for the second quarter.

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Looks like it's going to be three plus for the

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third quarter. So what the heck is he looking at?

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I mean exactly. It is dragging the Fed along with

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him like an anchor.

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Yeah yeah, so look they're changing the Fed. They've got

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some voices in there. I think Mickey Bowman and Chris

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Waller should have gone along with Trump's newest appointee who

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went for a fifty basis point cut, But they didn't.

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That's fine. They're looking for cohesion. My guess is you'll

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get a couple more cuts this year.

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Okay. Government shutdown yes or no?

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Maybe temporary maybe short. Democrats are desperate to blame the Republicans.

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I don't see it that way.

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Republicans are happy with a clean CR and that's what

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they should do and then get the damn work done.

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Exactly. Can you believe that Schumer wants to unwind the

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big beautiful bill? Yeah?

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Well, I mean no, How desperate is that?

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Well, it's just all all Chuck Schumer has is running

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against Donald Trump, and Donald Trump's the president. He can't

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really do much about it, but that's all he has

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to sell. And you know he's selling it as hard

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as he can. He's blaming Republicans for everything. So that's fine,

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doesn't get you very far.

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Exactly, got to leave it there. Liz Peak, Fox News

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contributor and former Wall Street analysts, Thank you, Liz, have

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We've got doctor John Samer from stream dot Org. Hey John,

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how you doing, Hey Bill?

501
00:26:43.319 --> 00:26:46.480
Welcome. You know it's never complicated time for our country.

502
00:26:46.480 --> 00:26:48.480
A lot of really crazy things are going off.

503
00:26:48.799 --> 00:26:51.440
Yeah, we continue to process this deal. I mean, this

504
00:26:51.559 --> 00:26:56.279
is still so incomprehensible. You know, all that's taken place.

505
00:26:56.559 --> 00:26:58.400
I have been saying over and over again. You know,

506
00:26:58.440 --> 00:27:00.839
people call me say how you doing. I said, like you,

507
00:27:01.039 --> 00:27:04.599
I'm processing this. I mean, this is just an incredible

508
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and scary time. It's also a time that calls for courage.

509
00:27:08.880 --> 00:27:09.759
John Right.

510
00:27:10.079 --> 00:27:13.680
I mean, it's not just that a wonderful young man

511
00:27:13.960 --> 00:27:18.200
who had the political skills of Barack Obama, but unlike him,

512
00:27:18.359 --> 00:27:21.960
was a Christian and a patriot was gunned down at

513
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age thirty one with you had a wife and two children,

514
00:27:26.039 --> 00:27:31.480
but that thousands of Americans in positions of authority and influence, teachers,

515
00:27:32.319 --> 00:27:38.519
military officers, secret service agents, professors, actually went online to

516
00:27:38.759 --> 00:27:43.799
celebrate the political murder of a young conservative Christian just

517
00:27:43.839 --> 00:27:49.920
for his use. He never advocated violence, he never advocated extremism,

518
00:27:50.000 --> 00:27:56.039
he never demonized any groups. He simply spoke historic Apostolic

519
00:27:56.119 --> 00:28:00.079
Christianity and American patriotism the way Ronald Reagan did it.

520
00:28:00.480 --> 00:28:04.640
And look, we've come such a long time. Nobody at

521
00:28:04.680 --> 00:28:08.079
the time celebrated the attack on Ronald Reagan, not even

522
00:28:08.119 --> 00:28:12.920
his political enemies, Now this guy isn't even president, he's

523
00:28:13.039 --> 00:28:16.759
just a campus organizer, and they're willing to see him dead.

524
00:28:17.319 --> 00:28:22.400
And this unfunny clown, Jimmy Kimmel, went on his show

525
00:28:22.440 --> 00:28:25.880
to lie about the motives of the assassin, to claim

526
00:28:25.920 --> 00:28:28.960
that the guy who shot Charlie Kirk was a conservative

527
00:28:29.039 --> 00:28:32.559
Christian like him. He had no evidence for that. There

528
00:28:32.640 --> 00:28:33.640
was no evidence for that.

529
00:28:34.279 --> 00:28:36.440
If anything was, it was, there was all kinds of

530
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contra evidence to that. It was already released. It wasn't

531
00:28:39.400 --> 00:28:41.599
like this happened a couple of hours his statements, a

532
00:28:41.599 --> 00:28:44.960
couple hours after the assassination. I mean, these were days

533
00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:47.720
when when the you know, facts had already been laid out.

534
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Of that much of the facts had been laid out.

535
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Right, right, It's like claiming that John F. Kennedy committed suicide.

536
00:28:55.480 --> 00:28:58.759
I mean, it's just like that outrageous, that crazy a

537
00:28:58.839 --> 00:29:04.480
thing to say, right, And the FCC commissioner, a Trump appointment,

538
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criticized it. But mainly it was an upright an uprising

539
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of local TV stations.

540
00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:13.440
The affiliates, Yeah, exactly.

541
00:29:13.079 --> 00:29:16.680
Claire and Next Star. Their affiliates said, we can't keep

542
00:29:16.720 --> 00:29:19.640
airing Jimmy Kimmel after this we're no one's gonna watch us.

543
00:29:19.640 --> 00:29:22.200
They're gonna boycott our stations, so they pull them off

544
00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:26.759
the air. Now, the left and some some squished members

545
00:29:26.759 --> 00:29:29.480
of the right, like David French, I guess he's not

546
00:29:29.519 --> 00:29:32.599
really a conservative, and he claims to be. People who

547
00:29:32.640 --> 00:29:35.480
claim to be speaking with the First Amendment are saying that, oh,

548
00:29:35.519 --> 00:29:40.640
it's a terrible piece of censorship. First of all, TV

549
00:29:41.079 --> 00:29:45.519
broadcasting is not part of a free market. Every TV

550
00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:50.119
licenses are by definition, government monopolies. This is just how

551
00:29:50.119 --> 00:29:52.160
it was set up. It's the only way it can work.

552
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The TV public airways are a limited resource. They're natural monopolies,

553
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so the government parcels them out to ABC, CBS, NBC

554
00:30:02.319 --> 00:30:04.839
to work in the public interest, and if they don't

555
00:30:05.119 --> 00:30:09.720
work in the public interests, those licenses can legitimately be withdrawn.

556
00:30:10.240 --> 00:30:15.640
After ten years of vicious or more a vicious censorship

557
00:30:15.680 --> 00:30:19.039
on the left. If you remember, they wanted to put

558
00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:22.519
the unvaccinated into camps. There was actually something about that

559
00:30:22.599 --> 00:30:26.240
on the CDC website. All around the world, they try

560
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to censor vaccine misinformation. You're going to kill people if

561
00:30:31.799 --> 00:30:34.599
you tell them to take vitamin D and get sunlight

562
00:30:34.920 --> 00:30:38.720
and take ivermectin. These people were ruthless censors when they

563
00:30:38.759 --> 00:30:41.559
had power. The moment they have the whippand and some

564
00:30:41.599 --> 00:30:44.400
conservatives say, oh no, don't. You don't want the sac

565
00:30:44.559 --> 00:30:48.039
acting against the left because if when they take power again,

566
00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:51.400
they'll use it against us they have been using against us.

567
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They don't need a precedent alone. They don't need a precedent.

568
00:30:54.880 --> 00:30:56.880
They don't care about the law. They're going to do

569
00:30:56.960 --> 00:30:59.240
whatever they can as much as they can get away with,

570
00:30:59.640 --> 00:31:03.240
as ruthlessly as possible the moment they get power. So

571
00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:07.079
we have to make sure they never get power again. Period.

572
00:31:07.160 --> 00:31:10.480
That's the only solution. There is no common ground of

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00:31:10.960 --> 00:31:14.000
principle between the left and the right in America. This

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is Spain nineteen thirty six. And the only solution if

575
00:31:19.880 --> 00:31:23.799
they insist on giving us Spain nineteen thirty six, is

576
00:31:23.839 --> 00:31:27.119
to give them Spain nineteen thirty nine. You fight them,

577
00:31:27.519 --> 00:31:31.119
you beat them, you crush them. They can't be compromised with.

578
00:31:31.640 --> 00:31:34.480
Yeah, no, you're exactly right, John, because the thing is

579
00:31:34.480 --> 00:31:38.640
is that you know, traditionally, and this has been the

580
00:31:38.640 --> 00:31:41.480
tradition of the right. You know, as you've said time

581
00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:44.359
and time again, you use the analogy of the Washington generals.

582
00:31:44.640 --> 00:31:47.960
I mean they just default into that position. And I

583
00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:50.839
see Donald Trump every time that they go off the reservation.

584
00:31:50.960 --> 00:31:53.240
He goes out, gets them, brings them back, puts them

585
00:31:53.279 --> 00:31:56.799
under the tent, you know, reprograms them, and then they're

586
00:31:56.839 --> 00:31:59.240
okay for a little bit, until you know, they start

587
00:31:59.319 --> 00:32:00.000
drifting again.

588
00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:00.680
Yeah.

589
00:32:01.039 --> 00:32:08.440
Yeah, So many conservatives were just happy to get like

590
00:32:08.519 --> 00:32:10.359
a place at the foot of the table, Like I

591
00:32:10.440 --> 00:32:13.640
could be the one conservative columnist at the Washington Post

592
00:32:13.680 --> 00:32:16.799
as long as I bassed Donald Trump. I can be

593
00:32:16.839 --> 00:32:19.240
the conservative columnist at the New York Times as long

594
00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:22.319
as I bass Donald Trump. So basically you're the lap

595
00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:26.000
the left lap dog. They're little chihuahua. They yaps on

596
00:32:26.079 --> 00:32:30.119
command and then gets little live liver snaps thrown from

597
00:32:30.119 --> 00:32:30.559
the table.

598
00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:34.880
Yeah, no, exactly. That's a that's been the tradition, and

599
00:32:34.920 --> 00:32:38.000
the right has played into this until you know, now,

600
00:32:38.519 --> 00:32:42.240
particularly these young kids, and and the Charlie Kirk effect

601
00:32:42.960 --> 00:32:45.200
on these young kids. John the fact that he was

602
00:32:45.279 --> 00:32:47.279
willing to come to the belly of the beast, come

603
00:32:47.319 --> 00:32:50.079
to these campuses and just have a discussion, you know.

604
00:32:50.200 --> 00:32:52.640
And the one thing that that's clearly missing from these

605
00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:57.319
other pundits. Is that Charlie brought with him a veritas

606
00:32:58.119 --> 00:33:03.160
uh a, just a soul of truth which was refreshing.

607
00:33:03.240 --> 00:33:05.519
And you could see these kids, you could see what

608
00:33:05.599 --> 00:33:08.720
was happening on their faces when they realized, oh my,

609
00:33:09.440 --> 00:33:12.359
that's right, I'm not crazy. You know, I kind of

610
00:33:12.359 --> 00:33:15.079
suspected this way I've been raised, but I've been you know,

611
00:33:15.119 --> 00:33:17.319
I've been in doctrinating the classroom because I've got to

612
00:33:17.759 --> 00:33:19.160
you know, I got to get that a and I've

613
00:33:19.200 --> 00:33:21.640
got to you know, make nice with a professor, and

614
00:33:21.680 --> 00:33:25.440
I'm compromising my values. And Charlie's you know, comes in

615
00:33:25.440 --> 00:33:29.480
and he's encouraging them. He's he's like a modern day

616
00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:34.519
some would say apostle. I'd say, a prophet, you know,

617
00:33:34.559 --> 00:33:38.480
who would come into you know, the communities and remind

618
00:33:38.559 --> 00:33:41.440
people of the truth and embolden them and get them

619
00:33:41.480 --> 00:33:44.160
excited about life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness all

620
00:33:44.200 --> 00:33:44.720
over again.

621
00:33:44.799 --> 00:33:48.039
Right, young people could tell that Charlie Kirk loved them,

622
00:33:48.039 --> 00:33:50.359
that he cared about them. Yes, he wasn't trying to

623
00:33:50.400 --> 00:33:52.480
indoctrinate them. He was trying to set them free to

624
00:33:52.519 --> 00:33:54.599
think for themselves, and that he would listen to them,

625
00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:58.319
and he would answer their arguments, and he would sometimes struggle.

626
00:33:58.359 --> 00:34:00.759
You know, he was not a philosophy professor. He was

627
00:34:00.839 --> 00:34:05.079
just a good, decent, principled man who took the Bible

628
00:34:05.279 --> 00:34:13.360
and the Constitution seriously, going TPUSA, Turning Point USA, setting

629
00:34:13.400 --> 00:34:17.360
up at these colleges, and Charlie Kirk going there onto

630
00:34:17.599 --> 00:34:21.400
such insanely hostile territory. It kind of reminds me of

631
00:34:21.480 --> 00:34:25.159
like the Jesuits going to North America and preaching to

632
00:34:25.199 --> 00:34:28.559
the wild Indians, knowing there was a good chance that

633
00:34:28.599 --> 00:34:32.159
they would be burned alive or tortured, which happened, you know,

634
00:34:32.519 --> 00:34:37.599
the North American Martyrs. It's like those brave Protestant missionaries

635
00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:40.199
who went to China in the nineteenth century or Japan,

636
00:34:41.960 --> 00:34:44.840
and he started a movement that's going to outlive him.

637
00:34:45.079 --> 00:34:48.519
His lovely wife, Erica, has taken over the organization and

638
00:34:48.559 --> 00:34:55.039
she's going to keep it on a sane, patriotic Christian track,

639
00:34:55.280 --> 00:35:00.440
an excical track that bridges the denominational differences. You know,

640
00:35:00.519 --> 00:35:03.679
you've got some crazy people out there trying to hijack

641
00:35:03.880 --> 00:35:08.000
what Charlie created, like Candace Owen, who I think.

642
00:35:08.039 --> 00:35:11.119
Has what what is going on with Candace Owans.

643
00:35:10.960 --> 00:35:13.719
Well, I think the same thing that's going on with

644
00:35:13.840 --> 00:35:19.760
Nick Fuentes and Milo. I think there's a literally, there

645
00:35:19.800 --> 00:35:23.480
are literal demonic spirits that when they see something holy

646
00:35:23.559 --> 00:35:27.239
and something good, like what Charlie Kirk created, they want

647
00:35:27.280 --> 00:35:30.079
to poison it, they want to pervert it. Evil is

648
00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:34.920
parasitical on the good. It has no existence of its own.

649
00:35:34.960 --> 00:35:39.679
It's parasitical. So Charlie Kirk starts this wonderful patriotic organization,

650
00:35:40.119 --> 00:35:44.320
some people want to hijacket into an anti Semitic nut

651
00:35:44.360 --> 00:35:47.440
job conspiracy outfit. And the leaders are not going to

652
00:35:47.519 --> 00:35:49.760
allow that to happen, and the followers are not going

653
00:35:49.800 --> 00:35:50.360
to follow that.

654
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But I do think.

655
00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:58.480
There's something special, something particularly demonic about hatred of the

656
00:35:58.559 --> 00:36:02.719
Jewish people. There because you're hating the Holy Family, you're

657
00:36:02.719 --> 00:36:06.280
hating the Virgin Mary, You're hating the Apostles, you're hating

658
00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:11.599
their cousins and their descendants. I've I'm not a big

659
00:36:11.639 --> 00:36:15.480
woo wu mystical guy, but on a few occasions I

660
00:36:15.599 --> 00:36:19.840
felt the presence of like personal evil, like the icy

661
00:36:20.039 --> 00:36:25.039
presence of something inhuman that hates us. I've only felt

662
00:36:25.039 --> 00:36:28.280
it into contexts when I was praying outside abortion clinics,

663
00:36:28.760 --> 00:36:31.480
and when I encountered hardcore anti semites, like when I

664
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had to covered David Duke giving a talk at LSU

665
00:36:34.079 --> 00:36:36.199
back in the nineties when he was running for governor,

666
00:36:37.239 --> 00:36:42.159
I felt that same inhuman icy spirit, like you're in

667
00:36:42.239 --> 00:36:45.199
the presence of extraterrestrials and want to wipe out the

668
00:36:45.280 --> 00:36:47.760
human race, but of course what they are is fallen angels.

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No doubt evil continues. I mean I look at it

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a sweets and terrors. Jesus said, right.

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We.

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Need to recognize evil and call it out, but not

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get fixated and fascinated by it. We need to we

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need to look at what is good, look at what

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is whole, holy and inspiring. And I've got a piece

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at stream dot org where I talk about Charlie Kirk

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and how he reminds you of another patriotic, saintly person,

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Joan of Arc. Now that's not an immediately obvious comparison,

757
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but think about it. America is under invasion, it's under subversion,

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its very existence is under attack. And the Church is

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being hijacked and corrupted in all its forms here in America.

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And Charlie Kirk risked his life and finally gave his

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life to fight all that. You could say all of

762
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the same things about France when Joan of Arc came

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on the scene. France had been invaded and pillaged and

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raped by England the English. The one hundred Years War

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that the English launched kit caused the deaths of some

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estimate a half of the population of France. Fifty percent

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died from war and the diseases that war brought with it.

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Joan of Arc heard voices of angels and saints telling

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her she, a sixteen year old illiterate girl, should go

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raise an army to liberate France. And she believed it,

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and she went to the Dauphin, the heir to the

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French throne, who was in internal exile, and he believed her.

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Thousands of soldiers volunteers believed Joan of Arc, and they

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went and they fought, and they liberated much of France.

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She was captured. She was the English that, just like

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the Left today, they had controlled the universities, they had

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controlled the elites. They put her on trial for heresy

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in front of the faculty of the University of Paris.

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She debated them, even though she had never gone to school,

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couldn't read. She won the debates. We have the trial

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transcripts of Joan of ARC's trial. Mark Twain read them

782
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and was so inspired he wrote a novel about her life,

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which was his favorite book. She won the debates the

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way Charlie Kirk won the debates on campus. She reasoned

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with people, even though she didn't she couldn't read. Charlie

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Kirk didn't even finish college, but they had the truth

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on their side and When she died, they celebrated, They danced,

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they did little victory dances. They thought they had discredited her,

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just the way the left is celebrating the death of

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Charlie Kirk. But in both cases it backfired. They made

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a martyr, and the blood of the martyrs is the

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seed of the church. Charge Joan of Arc was then

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vindicated by the Pope, widely considered a saint, finally canonized

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the saint in the twentieth century, and she is now

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the patron of all the patriotic parties in France that

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are trying to kick out the Muslim colonizers who want

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to turn it into a Sharia state. Kirk will serve

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that purpose for Americans trying to protect our country from jihad,

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from communism, from transgender terrorism, which is rampant. The transgender

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00:44:25.519 --> 00:44:29.519
movement has become a factory for creating mass shooters and

801
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political soldiers. And Donald Trump is cracking down. He's declared

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anti five terrorist organization. Let's see some arrests. Let's see

803
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the nonprofits who funnel dark money to get these street thugs,

804
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anti file, Black Lives Matter. They act like the German

805
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brown the Nazi Brownshirts. They take over the streets, they

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terrorize their political opponents, and then when they go to

807
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if they get arrested, they get acquitted because the courts

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are on their side. That is literally the Nazi playbook.

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It's how they took power in nineteen thirty thirt and

810
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it's what the less trying to do to us.

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Now.

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We have to fight back, fight better than people did

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in nineteen thirty three to stop the totalitarians who are

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willing to murder people of their political views from taking

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over our country.

816
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Well, John, you touched on something that's really important and

817
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is starting to come to the front here. Did you

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hear about Ryan Morrow's report He reported into this dark money.

819
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It's it's awesome. I mean, it's thousands of pages of

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receipts and following the dark money.

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Where can you find that online?

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It's a go to Ryan Morrow. He's at a capital

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research center and he discovered George Chorros. Of course that's

824
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one of the obvious ones. But they're talking about eighty

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million dollars that have gone through fifty four groups that

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are promoting domestic terrorism. All this domestic terrorism, so he says,

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and in those fifty four groups, those are groups, but

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You've got hundreds of people, even within one cell, thousands

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of people. So you're talking, you know, a multiple number

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of people who are involved in domestic terrorism that are

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doing everything they can to undermine this great American idea.

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Or remember Barack Obama who became president after his memoir

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was ghost written by Bill Ayers, a weather underground terrorist.

834
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But John McCain was too much of a gentleman to

835
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mention it, too much of a gentleman to mention that

836
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the Obamas for twenty years had attended a Marxist church

837
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led by Jeremiah Wright who preached Goddamn America. Oh, John

838
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McCain would mention any of that because he was a

839
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Washington general and it was his job to go lose

840
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graciously to the Harlem globetrotters. Well, we're not like that anymore.

841
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We've learned our lesson. We've been persecuted by the IRS,

842
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investigated by the FBI, hunted after January sixth by every

843
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law enforcement agency in the country. We've been d banks,

844
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deep platforms censored, We've had our PayPal count sees. There

845
00:47:02.039 --> 00:47:05.199
has been a full on persecution of Christians and Conservatives

846
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all through the last ten years, even while Trump was president,

847
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the deep state was still doing it because he didn't

848
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have control of the deep state. Well, now it's fine

849
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to purge the deep state and give a little payback.

850
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The left needs to feel a little pain so that

851
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they learn these are the new rules. You created, these rules.

852
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How do you like them? Oh, you don't like them?

853
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You want to go back to the old rules. They

854
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have to feel the pain first, or else nothing changes.

855
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Well, they're so ideologically fixed, John, They're not even there.

856
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They're not even a point of reason or contrition. That's

857
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the scary thing about it. I mean you talk about

858
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doubling down and then doubling down again. That's what they do.

859
00:47:43.480 --> 00:47:47.920
This is why the silent majority quote unquote can no

860
00:47:48.039 --> 00:47:51.400
longer afford to be silent. And you've got to come

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00:47:51.440 --> 00:47:55.320
out in mass and make sure that the Democrats never

862
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are in control again until they're redeemed. And I'm not

863
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saying there any times.

864
00:48:02.800 --> 00:48:04.400
That's not going to happen anytime soon.

865
00:48:04.719 --> 00:48:07.639
No, I don't think so either. But still, just like

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you said, you want to you want to go back

867
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to the Obama years and what we just experienced four

868
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years of Joe Biden. You know when when you were

869
00:48:16.440 --> 00:48:17.920
persecuted at every turn.

870
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But I know when the FBI was sending agents to

871
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infiltrate Latin masses and pro life groups, when they were

872
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declaring PTA moms who objected to transgender pornography being foisted

873
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on their underaged children, they labeled those moms domestic terrorists.

874
00:48:35.440 --> 00:48:39.239
Eric Garland's Department of Justice agreed they were domestic terrorists

875
00:48:39.280 --> 00:48:42.480
and was looking for legal hooks to persecute groups like

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00:48:42.960 --> 00:48:45.400
Mass Resistance and Moms for Liberty.

877
00:48:46.039 --> 00:48:48.880
Or you're a dad and your daughter gets raped because

878
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the school thinks it's okay for some young man who

879
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wants to channel his female side and go and use

880
00:48:56.159 --> 00:48:59.119
a woman's restroom and he rapes and rapes his daughter,

881
00:48:59.400 --> 00:49:04.000
and he goes to he goes to the meeting to say,

882
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you know, I object, and he gets arrested.

883
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That's right. That is the America. The left once they

884
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want a totalitarian state like we had. We had the

885
00:49:16.280 --> 00:49:21.159
beginnings of a tatalitarian state under Joe Biden's inep senile

886
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pseudo leadership. He was a puppet for the people who

887
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are for Obama and the people behind Obama who want

888
00:49:28.280 --> 00:49:31.119
a left wing totalitarian state, and they are going to

889
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impose it on us the moment they get the chance,

890
00:49:33.519 --> 00:49:37.400
and nothing we do now in terms of restraining ourselves

891
00:49:37.559 --> 00:49:41.920
or following traditional cive ignored. None of that's going to help.

892
00:49:42.320 --> 00:49:45.480
They're just laughing at us. When we show weakness, they

893
00:49:45.480 --> 00:49:50.039
are laughing at us. It's like appeasing the Nazis. When

894
00:49:50.039 --> 00:49:52.679
the British and the French try to appease the Nazis

895
00:49:52.760 --> 00:49:56.519
try to avoid war. Behind the scenes, Hitler and Gering

896
00:49:56.599 --> 00:50:00.199
were laughing up their sleeves. Just wait, just wait till

897
00:50:00.199 --> 00:50:02.719
we're strong enough, and then we will We will crush

898
00:50:02.760 --> 00:50:07.440
you completely. That's the demonic spirit we're facing on the left.

899
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This is not John F. Kennedy, Robert F.

900
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Kennedy.

901
00:50:11.239 --> 00:50:14.760
This is more like Lenin and Stalin and Schague Vara

902
00:50:15.039 --> 00:50:17.800
and Fidel Castro. That's the spirit.

903
00:50:18.199 --> 00:50:20.360
And in place of the brown Shirts, you got furries.

904
00:50:21.119 --> 00:50:29.239
Yeah, Antifa and Trantifa and the transgender terrorists. Again, it's

905
00:50:29.280 --> 00:50:31.599
all fundamentally spiritual warfare.

906
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It really is. Nea.

907
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Remember that we we shouldn't demonize our opponents. The demons

908
00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:40.119
who possess them have already taken care of that. We

909
00:50:40.199 --> 00:50:43.400
need to hate the spirits that are controlling them. That

910
00:50:43.480 --> 00:50:46.960
are driving them like the gathering swine, over the cliff

911
00:50:46.960 --> 00:50:49.280
and into the sea. Well, we can't let them drag

912
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us down with them.

913
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But John, you and I talked about this before. The

914
00:50:53.239 --> 00:50:55.639
reason that evil has been able to proliferate is because

915
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we don't know the difference between good and evil.

916
00:50:58.760 --> 00:51:01.800
We're afraid to label it, or when we see something evil,

917
00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:05.079
we think, oh, would it be judgmental to call it evil?

918
00:51:05.480 --> 00:51:08.519
When you abort a nine month baby and then use

919
00:51:08.599 --> 00:51:11.559
its organs to create a vaccine that you're going to

920
00:51:11.599 --> 00:51:14.039
force people to take even though it's never been tested,

921
00:51:14.199 --> 00:51:16.480
and you're going to get them fired from their jobs

922
00:51:16.519 --> 00:51:19.119
if they won't take it, and you're going to censor

923
00:51:19.239 --> 00:51:21.760
doctors who even ask questions about it and try to

924
00:51:21.760 --> 00:51:25.360
destroy their careers. That all happened, folks, don't let that

925
00:51:25.519 --> 00:51:29.280
be forgotten. Never again, Never again. That's what they say

926
00:51:29.280 --> 00:51:31.679
about the Holocaust. So you need to say about every

927
00:51:31.760 --> 00:51:35.280
aspect of totalitarianism, whether it comes from the far right

928
00:51:35.400 --> 00:51:37.599
or the far left, which are no different because they're

929
00:51:37.639 --> 00:51:40.760
controlled by the same demonic spirits. Again, this is a

930
00:51:40.840 --> 00:51:45.360
war against principalities and powers, not against mere human.

931
00:51:45.159 --> 00:51:47.599
Being, And that's what Jesus said, and that's why we've

932
00:51:47.639 --> 00:51:50.639
got to armor up. I mean, the Book of Ephesians

933
00:51:50.639 --> 00:51:53.079
wrote clear laid out the battle plan for us. And

934
00:51:53.159 --> 00:51:55.760
if you haven't read that, maybe you need to revisit

935
00:51:55.840 --> 00:51:58.840
that and figure out the battle strategy because guess what

936
00:51:59.360 --> 00:52:02.239
is the Book of Ecclesiastes says there's a time for

937
00:52:02.320 --> 00:52:04.760
war and a time for peace. And I say that

938
00:52:04.920 --> 00:52:09.280
it is rather deleterious if you do not know the difference.

939
00:52:09.880 --> 00:52:11.880
That's right, and you need to know the difference between

940
00:52:11.880 --> 00:52:15.639
friends and enemies. And anyone who's telling you now that

941
00:52:15.760 --> 00:52:18.760
you have to support the free speech of people when

942
00:52:18.760 --> 00:52:22.559
they celebrate political murder, that person's an enemy.

943
00:52:22.960 --> 00:52:27.280
Yeah, yet exactly John, the Piece Two Patriots Saints Charlie

944
00:52:27.320 --> 00:52:30.760
Kirk joan of arc great piece. Where can people see it.

945
00:52:31.159 --> 00:52:33.400
Over at stream dot org. And please check out my

946
00:52:33.480 --> 00:52:36.880
new book, No Second Amendment, No First. It's all about

947
00:52:36.920 --> 00:52:41.360
the connection between gun rights, religious freedom, freedom of thought,

948
00:52:41.519 --> 00:52:46.159
and preserving our traditional American way of life from totalitarian

949
00:52:46.239 --> 00:52:47.000
threats against it.

950
00:52:47.360 --> 00:52:50.239
Amen, doctor John Sameric, thank you as always appreciate the time.

951
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Take care of my friend. Be well.

952
00:52:52.920 --> 00:52:54.800
Have you written a book or do you have a

953
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Hey?

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Bill? Doing great?

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Sir?

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How are you well? Now that we're on the other

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side of the Charni Kirk funeral? You know, I mean

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it's been a process, you know, I think everybody trying

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to get their brain and emotions around this tragic assassination.

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But the Charlie Kirk effect is going to be with us.

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I believe it could be generations. I mean, this could

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be one of those generational type events like JFK for example,

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but I think even stronger because it was one thing

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to have an assassination of a president and the manner

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which was and then all the information hidden from us

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even to this day, and here it is. You know,

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we saw exactly, you know what happened, the motivation behind it.

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You can have as much conjecture as you want to

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spend some time on, but that's irrelevant. The fact of

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the matter is is that I think, I think for

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people of faith, John, as you and I talked about

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last week, people of faith and hope, we realized that,

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you know, the battle between good and evil continues, and

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it's becoming more and more front and center and in

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our face.

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Yeah, I'm wondering the effect it's going to have on

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on like millennials and the younger generations, because they've the

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millennials at least they've gone through you know, nine to eleven,

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I guess was the big thing for millennials. And then

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you know they've they've lived through all the wars and

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you know, all the big events since then in COVID

1017
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and then you know, the Trump attempted to assassination. And

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now this which is, like you said, this is you know,

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the biggest political assassination since you know RFK and JFK.

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And I'm just sort of, you know, beside myself thinking about,

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00:57:00.320 --> 00:57:02.400
you know, how does this affect the generation, How does

1022
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it affect especially younger generations, who you know, aren't as

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mature as the older ones obviously by nature and not

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that they're immature, they just haven't been around as long

1025
00:57:15.119 --> 00:57:18.119
and don't have as much wisdom. And I'm it's going

1026
00:57:18.159 --> 00:57:20.480
to be interesting to see how how the younger generations

1027
00:57:20.519 --> 00:57:22.119
react to this. Are they going to dig in, are

1028
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they going to are they going to become more even

1029
00:57:24.880 --> 00:57:27.360
more aware than past generations. Are they going to get

1030
00:57:27.360 --> 00:57:29.599
more interested in politics, or are they going to shy away.

1031
00:57:29.960 --> 00:57:33.039
I'm just curious to see how how the younger generations

1032
00:57:33.039 --> 00:57:35.119
will handle this, just because they've been through so many

1033
00:57:36.000 --> 00:57:38.760
you know, collective you know, international traumas.

1034
00:57:39.400 --> 00:57:42.000
Yeah, exactly, No, I agree with you, John, But I

1035
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think the important thing here in what Charlie stressed was

1036
00:57:45.960 --> 00:57:49.840
the pursuit of truth. And and I'm I'm my hope

1037
00:57:49.880 --> 00:57:53.119
and my prayer is that you know, truth would become

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00:57:53.280 --> 00:57:57.719
paramount and uh, set politics aside, set all this other style.

1039
00:57:57.960 --> 00:58:01.280
What is the truth? You know, whether it's COVID you know,

1040
00:58:01.440 --> 00:58:03.960
I was just talking with Liz Peak earlier today, is

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that I think that you know, twenty years, thirty years

1042
00:58:06.800 --> 00:58:11.079
down the road, that generation looking back on the data,

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00:58:11.400 --> 00:58:14.280
COVID data, and you know you've been reporting on it

1044
00:58:14.519 --> 00:58:17.480
very faithfully, and how we've been worked. Those numbers have

1045
00:58:17.519 --> 00:58:21.000
been cooked, Labor statistics we find out have been cooked,

1046
00:58:21.400 --> 00:58:25.719
Obamacare numbers, cooked, crime statistics, It's all been cooked. I

1047
00:58:25.760 --> 00:58:30.480
mean the reason data is so important, especially historically, so

1048
00:58:30.519 --> 00:58:33.960
that for the next generation they have something valid to

1049
00:58:34.119 --> 00:58:36.559
work with in reference. I think what they may end

1050
00:58:36.679 --> 00:58:38.719
up doing thirty forty years down the road is to say,

1051
00:58:38.760 --> 00:58:40.519
you know what, we're just going to put a big

1052
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asterisk around that number and say don't pay attention to

1053
00:58:43.559 --> 00:58:47.559
it because it's just too it's too far fetched, and

1054
00:58:47.760 --> 00:58:50.880
these numbers have been so manipulated that we're giving people

1055
00:58:51.719 --> 00:58:55.199
a false impression of what's going on. But these kids,

1056
00:58:55.239 --> 00:58:57.400
I think that as a result, I think that you

1057
00:58:57.400 --> 00:58:59.199
can call it the Kirk effect, call it what you want,

1058
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is that I'm sensing that their search for truth okay,

1059
00:59:05.599 --> 00:59:08.000
and I think that's what Charlie. When Charlie came to

1060
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the campuses, he opened up the eyes of these kids

1061
00:59:10.519 --> 00:59:12.880
and he said, hey, let's have a conversation talking proved

1062
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me wrong, you know, come here, talk to me, tell me.

1063
00:59:15.800 --> 00:59:18.599
I'm gonna listen to you. And then he gives the facts.

1064
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And they didn't have facts, you know. They all they

1065
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had was opinion and talking points from the professor, and

1066
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then they realized that it couldn't hold water, right.

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Yeah, and the professors won't come debate him. I mean,

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every once in a while he'll get one to come

1069
00:59:33.119 --> 00:59:36.440
up and you know, kind of trade some barbs, but

1070
00:59:37.360 --> 00:59:41.840
they always lose because we you know, the conservatives have

1071
00:59:42.639 --> 00:59:46.480
you know, truth on their side, and the left they

1072
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don't even know what truth is. The left they sort

1073
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of take this this postmodern worldview where relativism is at

1074
00:59:54.840 --> 00:59:57.800
the top, and relativism just says that truth is relative

1075
00:59:57.880 --> 01:00:01.039
and truth is subjective, just like you like I like vanilla.

1076
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You know, you you think Hinduism is true. I think

1077
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you know, Christianity is true. This guy's an atheist, and

1078
01:00:07.480 --> 01:00:10.079
they're all sort of the same, just like you know,

1079
01:00:10.199 --> 01:00:13.199
people's favorite taste in ice cream. But that doesn't work

1080
01:00:13.239 --> 01:00:15.719
for truth. I mean, you think about it. If you

1081
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say truth is relative, meaning it's like ice cream flavors,

1082
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you're you're making an objective claim about truth. You've you've

1083
01:00:24.920 --> 01:00:29.440
literally proven the objectivity of truth by trying to disprove

1084
01:00:29.480 --> 01:00:33.440
the objectivity of truth, because objective truth is just whatever

1085
01:00:34.239 --> 01:00:38.960
accurately corresponds with reality. And the left will say you

1086
01:00:38.960 --> 01:00:41.960
know this or that is you know what accurately corresponds

1087
01:00:42.000 --> 01:00:43.880
with reality. The people on the right will say, no, no, no,

1088
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this is what accurately corresponds with reality. But at the

1089
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base of it, everybody believes in objective truth, even if

1090
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they don't think they do could because as soon as

1091
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they posit relativism, as soon as they say postmodernism is true,

1092
01:00:56.760 --> 01:00:58.239
they've made an objective truth claim.

1093
01:00:58.239 --> 01:01:00.239
And they've exactly proved objectivity in the.

1094
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Cool thing, like you've said, is now people are the

1095
01:01:04.239 --> 01:01:07.599
algorithms on social media are just flooded with videos of

1096
01:01:08.079 --> 01:01:11.039
Charlie Kirk. You can't get away from it. And his

1097
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videos are so powerful that now I'm getting calls and

1098
01:01:14.760 --> 01:01:17.880
texts from people in my family. I haven't reached out

1099
01:01:17.920 --> 01:01:20.480
to them because I've been digesting Kirk for years and

1100
01:01:20.559 --> 01:01:23.039
years and years now, and it's nothing new to me.

1101
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But to some of these some of my family members

1102
01:01:26.000 --> 01:01:31.039
who lean left. Unfortunately, they're actually watching these videos. They're

1103
01:01:31.079 --> 01:01:33.519
not saying anything negative about Kirk. They're just saying, hey,

1104
01:01:34.079 --> 01:01:36.639
I watched this video about Kirk debating this British guy

1105
01:01:37.800 --> 01:01:39.599
and it was and it was really interesting. And I'm

1106
01:01:39.599 --> 01:01:41.800
getting that from people on the left. So Bill, as

1107
01:01:41.880 --> 01:01:46.480
tragic as this is, God will continue to do what

1108
01:01:46.559 --> 01:01:50.000
he has done throughout history. What Scripture, the Old Testament

1109
01:01:50.039 --> 01:01:53.960
the New Testament have explained he does throughout history, which

1110
01:01:54.000 --> 01:01:57.679
is to bring good out of the bad things that happen.

1111
01:01:58.119 --> 01:02:00.960
And we see this throughout history, whether there's persecution of

1112
01:02:01.039 --> 01:02:05.480
Christians in China or Russia or wherever it is, there's

1113
01:02:05.519 --> 01:02:09.400
always an outpouring of the spirit and a massive harvest

1114
01:02:09.440 --> 01:02:14.280
of people coming to Christ, to the truth. And it's

1115
01:02:14.360 --> 01:02:17.800
wonderful to see. It's bittersweet because we all loved Charlie

1116
01:02:18.480 --> 01:02:20.880
and his message, but it's really cool to see people

1117
01:02:20.880 --> 01:02:21.880
coming to the Lord through it.

1118
01:02:22.440 --> 01:02:26.719
See this is again, God Almighty, how gracious he is

1119
01:02:26.760 --> 01:02:29.519
and how loving he is is that He's baked this

1120
01:02:29.679 --> 01:02:32.719
into the cake, so to speak. Right, it's all part

1121
01:02:32.880 --> 01:02:39.079
of the universality and consistency of his divine plan that

1122
01:02:39.280 --> 01:02:43.719
evil cannot overrun good, that there will be a balancing factor,

1123
01:02:43.719 --> 01:02:46.679
and that's what we're seeing that's happening right now. I mean,

1124
01:02:46.880 --> 01:02:50.760
look at before Charlie was assassinated, they had about nine

1125
01:02:50.800 --> 01:02:55.239
thousand chapters on college campuses. I believe nine hundred I'm sorry,

1126
01:02:55.320 --> 01:03:00.480
nine hundred. Since his assassination, they've had over I think

1127
01:03:00.559 --> 01:03:05.000
it's probably close now to forty thousand applications.

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Wow.

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Wow, it really And the thing is, again, I cannot

1130
01:03:12.880 --> 01:03:16.920
overemphasize enough the importance of the truth is that the

1131
01:03:17.000 --> 01:03:20.320
kids are coming to the truth, like you're talking about,

1132
01:03:20.599 --> 01:03:24.760
because that is that's our north star, that is our reference,

1133
01:03:24.800 --> 01:03:27.800
no matter because we're all going to deviate, we're all

1134
01:03:27.800 --> 01:03:30.079
going to have a tendency to drift and move off.

1135
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But if you don't know what to come back to, that,

1136
01:03:34.559 --> 01:03:38.880
I mean, you're losing connection with the mother ship here.

1137
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Absolutely.

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And there's a principle here that like God talks about

1139
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Hey, we're back with you, Bill Martinez here with John Fleewood. John,

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you were referencing Romans go ahead, exchanging a truth for

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the lie.

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Yeah, there are consequences to not accepting the objectivity of truth.

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You could say, well, you guys are talking about this

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really heady thing right now of objectivity versus subjectivity and truth,

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but it has practical negative consequences. You could talk about

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this biblically and scripturally. Where in Romans one you have

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a description of people who do not accept the truth

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about God is in the context in Romans one, and

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it says that God allows them to exchange the truth

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for a lie because we have free will. But what

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ends up happening is people end up getting a depraved mind.

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We end up getting a sickened mind when we don't

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01:09:31.800 --> 01:09:35.039
keep that north star, like you said, of objective truth.

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And it's like it's like cognitive dissonance when you hold

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01:09:39.560 --> 01:09:42.399
two contradicting thoughts at the same time. It can cause

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psychological problems. So there's not just like biblical support for this,

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01:09:45.800 --> 01:09:52.960
there's I think psychological support for this too, where where

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if we aren't accepting that there are objective truths, then

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01:09:56.960 --> 01:10:02.479
your mind starts to deteriorate. It's just more another apologetic

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for accepting the objective.

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The evidence is clear, John, right now in our culture,

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look at what's happening with these kids, depression, suicide rates,

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all this this is all a manifestation of exactly what

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the Bible says, what the Book of Romans says. You know,

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I think it's illogical and it's silly for us to

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think otherwise.

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Right, And it's not like you have some sort of utopic,

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you know, paradise of a life when you accept God.

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That's not what we're saying. But at least what I'm

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arguing here is that if you don't except that there

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are objective truths in the world, then you will You're

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going to start to lose your mind, You're going to

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01:10:50.560 --> 01:10:53.199
lose cognitive faculties and lo and behold, that's what we

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01:10:53.239 --> 01:10:56.520
see on the left is their inability to reason. When

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they interact with guys like Charlie Kirk, they don't respond

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with logic and reason and coherent facts that are put

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together to make like a syllogism. And here's the conclusion

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of my argument. They usually respond with whatever they have

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left with is just emotionality or.

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Or name streaking out? Yes, exactly, yes.

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Yeah, that's right. So it's it's it's an important thing.

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I'm glad you're stressing it. The importance of truth. This

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was really fundamental for me early on in my sort

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01:11:27.319 --> 01:11:33.680
of spiritual searchings and questioning God. Was, you know, coming

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01:11:33.720 --> 01:11:35.560
to an understanding that there is such a thing as

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objective truth and it's necessarily true. You can't get away

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from objective truth because as soon as you try to,

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you start, you know, proving it.

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And I use this, I use this example all the

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time because it's when the Holy I just felt like

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God downloaded this into me. I said, exactly, it's like

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defind gravity.

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Right, yeah, I mean, it's exactly it.

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If gravity exists, then what tells you that everything else

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that God has demonstrated to us and told us about

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does that not exist?

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Right there? And there are there are good reasons to

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believe in God too, So long as we're talking about it,

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I think the best I think the best evidence for

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it is the fact that the universe is not infinite.

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It hasn't been around forever. This is something that.

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Mainstream science even says that the universe only goes back,

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you know, thirteen point seven fourteen billion years. And if

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you have a beginning point for the universe, you have

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a moment where all space, matter, and time and energy

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came into existence. Well, if that's true, as you know,

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the standard Big Bang cosmological model says, then you have

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to have a at least a logical moment prior to

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that first singularity where you have something to timeless, spaceless immaterial,

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something very powerful, something very wise would have had to

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bring about space, time, matter, and energy and spaceless, timeless immaterial,

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very wise, very powerful.

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These are all just you know, terms for God.

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So I think, you know, that's the cosmological argument for

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God's existence and it's something that's that's inescapable. And I

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think is as people start interacting with Kirk, they're going

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to start seeing things like these. I think we're you know,

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we're probably going to witness a massive, massive revival, not

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01:13:33.199 --> 01:13:34.840
just in the numbers that we're seeing now, because we're

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01:13:34.840 --> 01:13:37.960
already starting to see revival happening in younger generations. I

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think there'll be a really, really, really big one that

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we'll see in our lifetime.

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Well, my prayer is that the people, the leaders of faith,

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the faith leaders churches are anticipating this and they're preparing

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01:13:53.239 --> 01:13:59.039
themselves for this deluge, this tsunami of souls looking for

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the truth. And my prayer is that they would be

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ardent and inflexible when it comes to the truth, that

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they would not you know, bend to some sort of

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01:14:10.800 --> 01:14:16.640
cultural concept or desire you know, that would be determined

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by the amount of money they could gain. This needs

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to be one of those things that again, I just

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appreciate it, and this is my perception. I didn't know

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Charlie directly. I knew him indirectly. I followed him. I

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just so respected, you know what I could perceive of

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01:14:33.880 --> 01:14:37.800
his heart, and his heart was always to elevate you know,

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these kids on campus. He didn't go down there to

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01:14:40.560 --> 01:14:42.479
go and you know, tear them down. It was like,

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look at I want you to know. Number one, you know,

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01:14:45.720 --> 01:14:49.720
God loves you, and if nothing else, if he could

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01:14:49.760 --> 01:14:53.159
communicate that and they could plant that seed to get

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01:14:53.159 --> 01:14:56.399
them to think, because just like you said, we've become

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01:14:56.640 --> 01:15:00.840
delusional and we've lost sight of our north star and

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01:15:01.079 --> 01:15:05.840
understanding that the one who created the universe cares cares

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for you, I mean, and that that in and of itself,

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If that doesn't cause you to pause for a minute

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01:15:11.239 --> 01:15:15.600
and think, how can something outside of time space, in

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01:15:15.680 --> 01:15:19.880
our reality and with all this power care for me?

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Right? And pastors, I hope they're ready.

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01:15:23.359 --> 01:15:28.000
You mentioned pastors, these these these younger generations. Man, if

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01:15:28.000 --> 01:15:29.439
you want to be able to reach them, you're going

1345
01:15:29.520 --> 01:15:33.079
to have to brush up on your politics. I've been

1346
01:15:33.119 --> 01:15:36.279
seeing a bunch of I know a lot of pastors,

1347
01:15:36.800 --> 01:15:40.119
a lot of them don't have any understanding of politics.

1348
01:15:40.199 --> 01:15:44.279
And the problem is younger people especially, they're coming to

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01:15:44.439 --> 01:15:48.840
church in order to understand politics better. If you like pastor,

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01:15:48.880 --> 01:15:51.079
if you want me to believe in Christianity, you're gonna

1351
01:15:51.079 --> 01:15:53.880
have to help me apply this to my life practically exactly.

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01:15:53.920 --> 01:15:56.600
And you can't get away from the news right now.

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01:15:57.119 --> 01:15:59.079
And another thing is going to happen, and then another

1354
01:15:59.119 --> 01:16:01.239
thing after that, another events going to happen after that,

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01:16:01.279 --> 01:16:06.279
where pastors need to start, uh, you know, pulling up

1356
01:16:06.279 --> 01:16:10.920
their breeches and getting to work understanding how do I

1357
01:16:10.960 --> 01:16:15.039
apply Christianity to politics. That's something Kirk did. That's why

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01:16:15.079 --> 01:16:18.000
he was so attractive. That's why so many people come

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01:16:18.039 --> 01:16:21.840
to him, because they're helping, you know, shape these young

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01:16:21.880 --> 01:16:25.800
minds and help them understand how Christianity can apply to politics.

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01:16:26.119 --> 01:16:28.920
There's there's there's another interesting thing happening. I'm seeing bill

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01:16:28.960 --> 01:16:33.119
where like I saw number one, you saw a lot

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01:16:33.119 --> 01:16:35.479
of videos of people coming to church. There's this really

1364
01:16:35.520 --> 01:16:38.319
sweet video of this guy who said his wife bottom

1365
01:16:38.359 --> 01:16:41.079
a suit and he's standing there and he's recording himself

1366
01:16:41.119 --> 01:16:43.199
in a suit and he's like, man, this is the.

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First time I've ever worn a suit three three hundred dollars.

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01:16:47.760 --> 01:16:50.000
So he looked really sharp, and he's and he's all

1369
01:16:50.000 --> 01:16:52.199
proud of how he looks, and it was really motivating

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01:16:52.279 --> 01:16:54.880
him to go to church. And so you're seeing people

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01:16:54.960 --> 01:16:57.000
go to church now because of this. But I'm also

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seeing people walk away from their church precisely because either

1373
01:17:02.560 --> 01:17:07.079
the pastor didn't know how to say anything about what

1374
01:17:07.199 --> 01:17:09.760
happened with Kirk, or when they said something, it was

1375
01:17:09.840 --> 01:17:12.560
it was negative about Kirk. So you're seeing people like

1376
01:17:12.720 --> 01:17:18.640
coming and going and they're realizing there we're getting a

1377
01:17:18.640 --> 01:17:22.960
a sort of quantum of you know, the state of

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01:17:23.000 --> 01:17:26.239
the church right now. And pastors, man, if you have

1379
01:17:26.359 --> 01:17:30.000
a huge opportunity, you have a huge opportunity. The harvest

1380
01:17:30.039 --> 01:17:33.279
is plenty right now. I fear we have a lot

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01:17:33.279 --> 01:17:35.960
of you know, so called pastors, but we don't have

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01:17:36.000 --> 01:17:40.000
a lot who understand how to marry politics with.

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Well with they.

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Buried to your point, John, they don't even know how

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to deal with the LGBTQ plus deal. Right, and the

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01:17:51.600 --> 01:17:53.840
kid gives what the kids want to know? Well, what

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01:17:54.159 --> 01:17:57.079
from a biblic or worldview, what does God have to

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01:17:57.119 --> 01:17:59.319
say about this? What does God have to say about

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the furries? They don't even know what a fer he is?

1390
01:18:02.000 --> 01:18:03.520
Right, right, right?

1391
01:18:04.119 --> 01:18:08.119
Yeah, this this sort of sick thing that apparently what

1392
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the news is saying. You know, his Tyler Robinson, the

1393
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you know alleged assassin and his boyfriend were into this

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thing where they dress up like animals and then it,

1395
01:18:21.279 --> 01:18:23.720
you know, kind of becomes this depraved sexual thing.

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And we need to be able to understand those things.

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I have.

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I have young kids.

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I have a ten year old and a fifteen year old,

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and I explain all this stuff to them. I let

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them see all the videos they can handle it. They

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01:18:36.000 --> 01:18:39.239
can handle a lot more than you know, we think

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01:18:39.279 --> 01:18:44.319
they can. And we have to as parents start, I mean,

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01:18:44.479 --> 01:18:46.680
use memes if you have to, If that's the only

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01:18:46.720 --> 01:18:49.439
means of communication that you can communicate with your kids

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01:18:49.439 --> 01:18:54.239
these political ideas. Start using memes. They're very they're very powerful.

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01:18:54.279 --> 01:18:57.319
I think those are what got Trump elected. Were these

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01:18:57.359 --> 01:18:59.960
memes about you know, Hillary or you know, just just

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01:19:00.079 --> 01:19:03.279
political issues. They're very effective, They're very pithy. There's a

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01:19:03.319 --> 01:19:07.479
picture that goes with it. They're very memorable. And I

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just think pastors have to be ready and parents have

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01:19:10.279 --> 01:19:12.840
to be ready, and we have to start.

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01:19:13.159 --> 01:19:15.319
You've got to read the news a little bit every day.

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01:19:15.520 --> 01:19:19.640
You have to you have to understand you know, you know,

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a Canesian style economics versus you know, the kind of

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01:19:25.600 --> 01:19:29.159
economics that Milton Friedman or a Thomas sol you know.

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01:19:29.199 --> 01:19:31.159
And these are things that Kirk talked about. So I

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01:19:31.199 --> 01:19:33.119
think this is a good opportunity for people to really

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01:19:33.119 --> 01:19:35.880
pour into, pour into Kirk videos, to brush up on

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01:19:35.920 --> 01:19:36.399
this stuff.

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01:19:36.960 --> 01:19:41.439
Yeah, and take responsibility, Yes, self responsibility number one, Own

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01:19:41.479 --> 01:19:44.319
your own knowledge things. You know, we've said many times,

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Hey, good morning, Welcome back Bill Martinez here. Great to

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have you with us, Nambari. He's going to be joining

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us in just a moment. He's the co founder and

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president of links Up. We're going to be talking about

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National Tradesman Day. A little quick background here is that

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September brings National Tradesman Day and the National Construction Appreciation Week.

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It's the time to recognize the vital contributions of skilled

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workers across our country. From plumbers and HVAC technicians to welders,

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construction crews, and mechanics. These are the skilled professionals who

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keep our essential services running. Joining us today, as I mentioned,

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to highlight the impact of these dedicated trades people, is

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Naim Bari, a co founder and president of links Up.

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It's a technology company that makes it easy for field

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based businesses to get the most out of their vehicles, equipment,

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and workers in the field. Naim, Welcome to Michelle.

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Good to have you with us, Good mornings, Thank you

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for having me.

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01:25:01.319 --> 01:25:05.520
Well, why is it important to recognize National Tradesman Day?

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A good question. Well, we've been for the last twenty

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five years links Up. We've been building software for trades

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01:25:12.159 --> 01:25:17.159
like landscaping, transportation, HVAC and more, and we've seen firsthand

1521
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that the number one problem of customers face is the

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01:25:20.399 --> 01:25:24.760
lack of skilled trades people. It's a constant challenge, right

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01:25:24.760 --> 01:25:27.119
and it makes sense. I mean from building homes, repairing

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01:25:27.239 --> 01:25:30.560
HVAC systems, maintaining the roads. I mean without the electricians,

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01:25:30.680 --> 01:25:33.560
plumbers and service technicians. You know, these guys the backbone

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of the communities. Our daily life would grind to a

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01:25:35.520 --> 01:25:39.159
halt without them. Yet all too often their work kind

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01:25:39.159 --> 01:25:43.279
of goes unnoticed. In events like the National Tradesman Day

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01:25:43.600 --> 01:25:46.399
and the National Construction Appreciation Week, they give us that

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01:25:46.560 --> 01:25:50.840
chance to not only appreciate the trades, but also kind

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01:25:50.880 --> 01:25:53.720
of build awareness of what a career in the trades

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01:25:53.720 --> 01:25:56.039
would look like for young people trying to enter the

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01:25:56.119 --> 01:25:58.720
job market nowadays. So it's very important it gives us

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01:25:58.880 --> 01:25:59.720
that opportunity.

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01:26:00.359 --> 01:26:02.039
Now, what I'm hearing, you know, from a lot of

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the trades people that I connect with, is that it's

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almost like their jobs are recession proof. The economy, we know,

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01:26:11.479 --> 01:26:14.159
has been going through a tough couple of years, but

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these tradesmen have been staying busy. Yes, I get it,

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construction has been down, there's been some downward trends, but

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by and large, you know, they're hanging in there and

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01:26:25.000 --> 01:26:29.079
they're doing well in spite of the dubiousness of this economy.

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Do you say that that's a fair analysis.

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01:26:33.119 --> 01:26:36.159
It is an extremely fair assessment of what's going on. Yeah,

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01:26:36.159 --> 01:26:39.680
because a lot of the trades are frankly as close

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01:26:39.680 --> 01:26:42.600
a recession proof as you can get. I mean, you

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have I mean, think about it this way, right, Your

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home is not going to fix itself, Your businesses are

1549
01:26:49.319 --> 01:26:51.880
continually going to need maintenance. Your roof is still want

1550
01:26:51.920 --> 01:26:54.880
to be fixed. All of these things mean that those

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01:26:55.000 --> 01:26:57.319
jobs are going to be there, and people are going

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01:26:57.319 --> 01:27:00.880
to be busy in those jobs. And with if you

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01:27:00.880 --> 01:27:04.399
look at the overall picture of how many trades people

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01:27:04.399 --> 01:27:09.000
are getting older and hiring, this is just an increasing

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01:27:09.119 --> 01:27:11.479
gap that needs to be covered. So it's it. There's

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01:27:11.560 --> 01:27:15.319
no shortage of jobs and opportunities for trades careers. It's

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01:27:15.359 --> 01:27:17.479
a very very stable path to follow and growing.

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01:27:18.000 --> 01:27:20.359
And you're saying this is a great opportunity for younger workers.

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Take advantage of this opportunity right now, right it is?

1560
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It is absolutely I mean, if you think about it

1561
01:27:26.039 --> 01:27:29.920
from a young person's perspective, you know, the high demand

1562
01:27:30.000 --> 01:27:33.760
and rising demand frankly, the appeal of avoiding college debt,

1563
01:27:34.079 --> 01:27:37.640
the strong earning potential, and the immediate job opportunities they

1564
01:27:37.680 --> 01:27:41.399
make the trades kind of an increasingly attractive career path. It's,

1565
01:27:42.239 --> 01:27:44.039
as we just discussed, they offer a level of job

1566
01:27:44.079 --> 01:27:47.680
security that's hard to find in many other industries. Not

1567
01:27:47.800 --> 01:27:51.319
to mention these roles, they can't easily be automated away.

1568
01:27:51.359 --> 01:27:55.359
They require hands on expertise and specialized skills. AI isn't

1569
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coming to fix your toilet anytime.

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01:27:57.279 --> 01:28:01.239
Soon, exactly last time I checked.

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Uh.

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Now, I think it's frustrating for some of these kids

1573
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that you know, bought into the narrative that, oh, you

1574
01:28:08.279 --> 01:28:10.159
must go to college and you must get the right

1575
01:28:10.199 --> 01:28:14.359
degree and be saddled with you know, one hundred thousand

1576
01:28:14.399 --> 01:28:15.600
dollars worth of debt.

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Uh.

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And then they see these younger kids, you know, their

1579
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their peers in a way that didn't go to Yale,

1580
01:28:21.319 --> 01:28:24.119
they didn't go to some ivy League school, and they're

1581
01:28:24.199 --> 01:28:28.680
making six figures of money, and uh, they're you know,

1582
01:28:29.039 --> 01:28:33.239
building their families and enjoying their kids and uh, you know,

1583
01:28:33.399 --> 01:28:38.119
and uh knowing that their future is secure in these

1584
01:28:38.279 --> 01:28:41.439
uh in these trade occupations and uh, you know, and

1585
01:28:41.479 --> 01:28:45.600
I imagine it's somewhat you know, frustrating for those that

1586
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have gone to college believing because they were told, look

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at if you go to college, you you're gonna have.

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It made absolutely. I mean, you put it very well.

1589
01:28:54.960 --> 01:28:57.520
That's that's that is the reality we're in today. And

1590
01:28:57.760 --> 01:29:00.560
if you're going through college education, I mean, how many

1591
01:29:00.640 --> 01:29:02.560
layoffs are a common thing. I mean, how many people

1592
01:29:02.560 --> 01:29:06.039
get laid off nowadays from white color jobs, whereas in

1593
01:29:06.079 --> 01:29:09.840
the trades you don't. I don't see that that level

1594
01:29:09.880 --> 01:29:11.800
of impact. If anything, the reverse.

1595
01:29:12.199 --> 01:29:15.560
Right exactly. Gosh. I remember when I was in high school,

1596
01:29:15.560 --> 01:29:18.159
I was in student government and we had a big,

1597
01:29:18.279 --> 01:29:23.640
you know, conference, and I had mentioned that just instinctively.

1598
01:29:23.720 --> 01:29:26.680
It wasn't, you know, my own brilliance, but I just said,

1599
01:29:26.880 --> 01:29:29.720
you know, there's just something about, you know, the trades

1600
01:29:29.760 --> 01:29:33.960
field that that's being ignored. And of course the mantra

1601
01:29:34.000 --> 01:29:35.439
at that time was, oh, no, you had to go

1602
01:29:35.479 --> 01:29:38.840
to college. And I was chastised for even bringing that

1603
01:29:38.960 --> 01:29:42.079
up in the discussion. But you know, so here I

1604
01:29:42.119 --> 01:29:45.760
am all these decades later and seeing the reality of

1605
01:29:45.800 --> 01:29:48.319
this and going wow, I mean, this is and this

1606
01:29:48.399 --> 01:29:50.520
is important that this is coming up right now in

1607
01:29:50.600 --> 01:29:53.560
light of where we are with the econ where we

1608
01:29:53.600 --> 01:29:56.520
are with the labor force in America, because the bottom

1609
01:29:56.600 --> 01:29:58.920
line is, at the end of the day, people want

1610
01:29:58.960 --> 01:30:03.359
to feel productive. And this is the thing about about tradesmen.

1611
01:30:03.800 --> 01:30:05.439
I mean, every day they go to work and they

1612
01:30:05.439 --> 01:30:07.640
come home and they say I did something, you know,

1613
01:30:07.720 --> 01:30:11.000
I completed something. Right, This is very true.

1614
01:30:11.039 --> 01:30:13.439
I mean, we have so many trades people. We work

1615
01:30:13.479 --> 01:30:16.680
with companies that employ trades people, and survey after survey

1616
01:30:16.720 --> 01:30:22.319
and conversation after conversation consistently trade trade workers there. They are,

1617
01:30:22.399 --> 01:30:26.840
the report exceptionally high job satisfaction. They're happy with what

1618
01:30:26.880 --> 01:30:28.680
they make, they're happy with the demand they have, they're

1619
01:30:28.720 --> 01:30:32.239
happy with the jobs you mentioned, accomplishing something day after

1620
01:30:32.319 --> 01:30:34.520
day after day. Right, a lot of them just wish

1621
01:30:34.600 --> 01:30:38.079
more high school grads understood just how rewarding these these

1622
01:30:38.079 --> 01:30:41.680
careers can be. So you know, it's it's a it

1623
01:30:41.800 --> 01:30:42.680
is a beautiful thing.

1624
01:30:43.279 --> 01:30:46.720
Yeah, it really, because this is what they're they're designed

1625
01:30:46.800 --> 01:30:50.239
to do. They're skilled at this. I mean it's uh,

1626
01:30:51.079 --> 01:30:53.600
you know, as you say something like a simple you know,

1627
01:30:53.640 --> 01:30:56.600
you may think something like a simple plumbing job until

1628
01:30:56.640 --> 01:30:58.520
you're the one that doesn't know what you're doing and

1629
01:30:58.560 --> 01:31:01.800
you just caused a flood in the house, right, exactly

1630
01:31:02.479 --> 01:31:05.680
how many of us have found ourselves in that and going, oh,

1631
01:31:05.760 --> 01:31:08.119
please get me the plumber, you know, as your wife's

1632
01:31:08.119 --> 01:31:11.600
sitting there going this is a bad idea, honey.

1633
01:31:11.840 --> 01:31:13.880
So that is very true.

1634
01:31:14.399 --> 01:31:17.680
Speaking of which, what are some misconceptions about careers in

1635
01:31:17.720 --> 01:31:19.600
the trades. I know we touched on that a little bit,

1636
01:31:19.600 --> 01:31:21.119
but I want to expand a little bit more on

1637
01:31:21.159 --> 01:31:21.680
that name.

1638
01:31:22.279 --> 01:31:25.039
Of course, So one myth that just doesn't seem to

1639
01:31:25.159 --> 01:31:27.479
this is very persistent and doesn't go away. A lot

1640
01:31:27.479 --> 01:31:30.000
of people entering the trades, young people think that trades

1641
01:31:30.439 --> 01:31:32.399
take them away from technology. I mean, we know young

1642
01:31:32.439 --> 01:31:34.399
people really love technology, they want to be in it,

1643
01:31:34.920 --> 01:31:37.840
and they think that trades working with their hands, it

1644
01:31:37.920 --> 01:31:40.720
moves you away from technology, when reality is it's the

1645
01:31:40.760 --> 01:31:43.319
exact reverse. I mean, whether it's fleet management software like

1646
01:31:43.359 --> 01:31:47.399
links up, automated equipment, what have you. Skill trades people

1647
01:31:47.560 --> 01:31:50.239
use technology every day more and more than they ever

1648
01:31:50.279 --> 01:31:53.439
have in the past to work smarter, safer, more efficiently.

1649
01:31:54.199 --> 01:31:59.039
So yeah, it's a very technical, technical adjacent field. And

1650
01:31:59.159 --> 01:32:01.840
we talked about the the pay right there. It is

1651
01:32:01.880 --> 01:32:04.039
a persistent myth that trades don't make it up. Well,

1652
01:32:04.399 --> 01:32:09.039
if right now, electricians, plumbers, welders, they're just graduating from

1653
01:32:09.039 --> 01:32:12.439
trade schools with seventy thousand dollars jobs, jobs locked in

1654
01:32:12.520 --> 01:32:14.800
with a clear path to six figure incomes over time,

1655
01:32:14.880 --> 01:32:19.600
right Another persistent myth that you know it just needs

1656
01:32:19.600 --> 01:32:22.640
to go away, is that it's not a stable career. Well,

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it is as we talked about, right, they're always in demand.

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a college degree degree to be successful, when in fact

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there's all these other paths that lead you to success,

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sometimes better than advanced degrees can.

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Hey, good morning, Welcome, Good to have you with us.

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Bill Martinez here and we got a real treat for you.

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Nicole C. Mallin, the double Ward winner and author of

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a brand new book, It's Never wrong to do the

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right thing. Nicole, Welcome, Michelle, good to have you with us.

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Thank you so much meal for having me.

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Oh my gosh, I think the last time I saw

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you we were in Nashville together. I think it was

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I can't remember if it was the Imagine tour or whatever.

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I saw you on the red carpet. I still have

1786
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a picture with you that I cherish dearly. I want

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you to know.

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Oh, thank you very much, thank.

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You well, you know for you it's You're such a

1790
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blessing and you know your music, And I was thinking

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again of you know, my Redeemer lives, and I wonder,

1792
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do you ever pause for a moment and consider how

1793
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many tears you have caused to run out of the

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eyes of the people who listen to that song.

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You know what I do, stop and consider how great

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our God is. Because it was like, honestly, Bill, it

1797
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felt like when I wrote that song that I was

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just giving God my loaves and my fish, and I

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had no clue as.

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To what he would do.

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And so every time I hear a story, every time

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I see a tear, every time I hear of a

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01:39:35.039 --> 01:39:38.039
life being changed by the song, I know it's God.

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I know that I was only a secretary taking notes

1805
01:39:41.079 --> 01:39:43.159
and the real power has come from the power of

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the Holy Spirit and his work.

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Yeah, isn't that amazing? When God puts his anointing on

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a work that you know is so, it becomes holy,

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doesn't it?

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It does?

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And you know what, and I think it also becomes

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anointed when we have experienced the crushing, because so that

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01:40:00.239 --> 01:40:02.479
the anointing comes from the oil, and the oil normally

1814
01:40:02.520 --> 01:40:04.640
came from the olive, and in order for that oil

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01:40:04.680 --> 01:40:08.359
to flow, there had to been some brokenness that resulted

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in such a crushing that the oil was produced. And

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01:40:11.199 --> 01:40:14.199
so I believe on the song, even a Redeemer and

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01:40:14.239 --> 01:40:17.279
other songs that are like it. Yes, the power comes

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01:40:17.319 --> 01:40:20.560
through our lives being broken open for the Lord. And

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01:40:20.600 --> 01:40:23.960
so Redeemer was not written on a mountaintop experience. For me,

1821
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It was written in the midst of a valley. It

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was written in what I consider a night season. And

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01:40:28.600 --> 01:40:32.479
so I believe that crushing of the oil spilled over

1824
01:40:32.840 --> 01:40:35.239
the song and the performance of the song, and so

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01:40:35.319 --> 01:40:36.960
the Lord uses it for his glory.

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Well, it's one thing, you know, to write a song,

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and the other is to interpret, as you know as

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a singer. And clearly it is so deep in your

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01:40:47.920 --> 01:40:54.399
heart the way you deliver, you know, the lyrics. I

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01:40:54.439 --> 01:40:57.520
remember one time I was talking with Frankie Valley of

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all people, going back to my old radio days, and

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he said that it was Frank Sinatra, of all people,

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that taught him the most important thing he learned as

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an artist. And he said, it's all about the interpretation

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of the lyric. Very true, and here it is, I mean,

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01:41:15.039 --> 01:41:19.199
and you exemplify that in all your music. And as

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you said, you know with my Redeemer, I mean, and

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in a sense that this is really your testimony, isn't it.

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01:41:25.319 --> 01:41:26.880
It is definitely my testimony.

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Like job, I've been through heartache, I've experienced the harshness

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of life, but I've also seen Christ step in as

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the redeemer, the one who saves me, the one who

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01:41:35.000 --> 01:41:35.640
buys back my.

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01:41:35.600 --> 01:41:36.399
Pain and my shame.

1845
01:41:36.439 --> 01:41:38.840
And I did write about it in the book, the

1846
01:41:38.880 --> 01:41:40.560
book that you know, it's never wrong to do the

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01:41:40.600 --> 01:41:43.680
right thing. So there are stories and details of what

1848
01:41:43.760 --> 01:41:46.439
the Lord has brought me through for his glory. But yes,

1849
01:41:46.520 --> 01:41:49.359
I have experienced that, and Frank Sinatra was right. My

1850
01:41:49.359 --> 01:41:52.279
grandmother she taught me a similar principle and I put

1851
01:41:52.319 --> 01:41:54.920
that in the book as well, about when you when

1852
01:41:54.960 --> 01:41:57.680
you're singing, don't just use your voice She always taught

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01:41:57.720 --> 01:41:59.880
me to use my eyes and my hands and every

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01:42:00.079 --> 01:42:03.159
thing to magnify the Lord and to convey the message.

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01:42:03.359 --> 01:42:05.520
And so just as you're saying, it is very true,

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01:42:05.560 --> 01:42:07.920
and the Scripture also confirms. It says that you know,

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01:42:08.000 --> 01:42:11.319
the spirit sorry says like the letter sometimes can kill,

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01:42:11.520 --> 01:42:14.079
but it's the spirit behind it that brings life to

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the words.

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And so I think the same is true.

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Don't we love our grandmas? Yeah?

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Where would we be without grateful thank you Lord?

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01:42:22.840 --> 01:42:23.039
Yeah?

1864
01:42:23.199 --> 01:42:23.560
Amen?

1865
01:42:23.840 --> 01:42:24.159
Amen.

1866
01:42:25.000 --> 01:42:28.199
Well, you know, I think some people might be you know,

1867
01:42:28.560 --> 01:42:32.640
they've known you a multiple Dove Award winning artists, a

1868
01:42:32.680 --> 01:42:37.239
Grammy nominated singer songwriter, and some people have experienced you

1869
01:42:37.439 --> 01:42:40.199
on you know, on your stage events. I mean, you've

1870
01:42:40.199 --> 01:42:43.279
been across the globe proclaiming the truth of scripture and

1871
01:42:43.279 --> 01:42:45.920
the power of God to bring healing and wholeness to

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01:42:46.000 --> 01:42:52.000
our lives. So your ministry outreach goes beyond your award

1873
01:42:52.079 --> 01:42:53.279
winning music.

1874
01:42:54.039 --> 01:42:55.800
You know, to God be the glory. You are right.

1875
01:42:55.800 --> 01:42:57.479
He has taken me all over the world.

1876
01:42:57.840 --> 01:42:59.960
And I've been singing Redeemer for the past twenty five

1877
01:43:00.079 --> 01:43:02.279
years along with other many other songs.

1878
01:43:02.319 --> 01:43:04.520
But He has taken me around the globe, and he

1879
01:43:04.560 --> 01:43:05.159
has allowed me.

1880
01:43:05.199 --> 01:43:07.960
To sing in different languages in different seasons, and so

1881
01:43:08.119 --> 01:43:10.760
I am super grateful for that because it is so

1882
01:43:10.920 --> 01:43:13.640
far beyond myself. And so when I see that, I

1883
01:43:13.720 --> 01:43:17.840
know it's not Nicoci mullin, It's only Jesus and Jesus alone.

1884
01:43:18.079 --> 01:43:22.319
Sir, do you pinch yourself? You go, it's not tongues

1885
01:43:22.319 --> 01:43:25.039
but almost. But I'm singing in another language here, Lord,

1886
01:43:25.159 --> 01:43:26.199
really be proud. Huh.

1887
01:43:26.359 --> 01:43:29.199
You know it's something and build The ironic part of

1888
01:43:29.239 --> 01:43:31.640
it is is that growing up I loved math, I

1889
01:43:31.720 --> 01:43:33.319
loved the numbers.

1890
01:43:32.880 --> 01:43:34.079
But speaking I was like no.

1891
01:43:34.600 --> 01:43:38.000
So whenever I am singing, whenever I am speaking to

1892
01:43:38.079 --> 01:43:40.880
a different audience or different culture, I know it's the

1893
01:43:40.960 --> 01:43:42.880
Lord like and I put that in the book too.

1894
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I'm telling you.

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These are you know, we're living in crazy times.

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As we all know.

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We need courage like never before. We need the power

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of the Holy Spirit like never before to do those

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things that we could not do on our own. And

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so because my life is yielded to Christ, because I'm like, Lord,

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need the power of your Holy Spirit.

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You said, when we are weak, you are strong. So

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what I'm depending on you?

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And because of that, he always shows up and he

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always shows.

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Out exactly Well, Nicole, Uh, it's never wrong to do

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the right thing. Your new book. Uh, we got a

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lot of kids today. You're going, Bill, Nicole, what's the

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right thing?

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Wow?

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The right thing is always the godly thing? And so

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you know, Bill, I want to if you don't mind, because,

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especially in light of the craziness that we are currently experiencing,

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there are some words from a part of a chapter

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in the book called We Will Not Bend or Bow,

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and it's from the Daniel and the Shadreck Meshack situation

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that I really if you don't mind, can I just

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read a little bit if you don't, Oh, go ahead, okay,

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because I think it's I think it's it's very timely

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for today. Yes, And like I said, it's from chapter six,

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and it says, he works, the Lord all the puzzle

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pieces of life together to create a masterpiece. While we

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can only see from our own limited vantage point, he

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sees all. While we see small, we have little awareness

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of the millions of circumstances, relationships, and seemingly insignificant events

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that God is working together for our good. At times,

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those pieces may be tragic, or difficult to accept. But

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God promises to rightly judge the evil and reward those

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who love Him and stand for what is right. And

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then it says, maybe you have walked through the flames

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as well. In our day times, there are constant pressures

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to conform to the ways of culture and the expectations

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of friends, family, and society. Right can seem to be wrong,

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and what is truly wrong from God's perspective can be

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voted in as the new right. As followers of Jesus,

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we are called to bow only to Him, and sometimes

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we will take the heat for that. And then it

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goes on and it says that at times society may

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mandate or strongly suggests beliefs or actions that are in

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direct conflict with what the scripture commands. In extreme cases,

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we may be kicked out of societal circles, threaten with

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loss of income, removal of our families, our homes, our freedoms,

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or even our lives. When we face such trials, the

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temptation is to give in to what is required and

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not to make waves, to remain silent, and to go

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along with the crowd, to blend in. We may wish

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to avoid the penalty for letting people down or disobeying orders.

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Our flesh may tell us that it's okay to do

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what everyone else is doing as long as we believe

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in God in our hearts. But this is a deception

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from the enemy Satan, who wishes to silence us. But

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I walk in truth. When my words and my actions

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line up with God's standards. I have decided it is

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better for me to stand on what God has said,

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to do the right thing, and to lose everything in

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the natural, then to hold allegiance to the world while

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forsake in God's infallible word, because the most tragic end

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is eternal separation from God, and life is so much

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better under His rule and reign.

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Wow, well that's so powerful. I mean, what what you've written,

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and thank you for bringing that you know to the

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forefront here, Nicole. We we hear this especially right now

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because of this upside down world. I mean, the Book

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of Isaiah warned us that there will be those days

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when you know, uh, that which is good will be

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called evil evil good sweet sour, sour sweet. And this

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is the season, This is the era and the age

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in which we live in today, in upside down. But

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It goes back to what we were talking about earlier

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in terms, you know, the right thing is the righteous thing,

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righteousness going right alone, and and so but we know

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that the way to know the difference because I asked God,

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I you know this was a while ago. I just said, God,

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you know good and evil is really here? You know,

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how how do we know you know, really know the difference?

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You know?

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To your point, because you you addressed that is that

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you it can be confusing. You look at the culture

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and what happens for us as people of faith. We

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are to affect the culture. The culture is not to

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affect us, right, so if we're not true to our faith,

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we're going to get compromised. And the other thing is

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is that God said, look at you have to study righteousness,

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you know that which is right to know the difference,

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you know, much like a bank teller, yes, right, well,

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or you know when they study counterfeit money, they don't

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study counterfeit money. They study the legitimate tender right when

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they when they when the counterfeit comes in, it sticks out.

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It's so obvious. And so that's the way we should

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do as well. Was my takeaway from my conversation with

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God on.

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That absolutely, and Bill I totally agree three hundred percent,

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because really, in order for us to be able to

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stand for truth, we have to know what the truth is.

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And if we're saying, well, Lord, I don't feel like

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I have enough faith, well, he says that faith comes

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if you need an increase in your faith. Faith comes

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by hearing hearing the word of God. So the more

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we hear the Word of God, the more we hear

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the stories that are in the Word of God, the

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testimony is the exam amples, the blueprints, the more our.

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Faith is built.

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So when it's time for us to have those tests

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and those challenges, our faith is built strong enough for

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us to be able to say, Lord, I can withstand

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this test. I can come out on the other side

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because my foundation is built upon the scriptures and upon

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the Lord Jesus Christ. And so my aim in my

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heart is to help young people, is to help older people,

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is to help everyone know the Word of God, love

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the Christ of the Word, make courageous decisions based off

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of it, and when it's all said and done, be

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found faithful.

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Well. The book is packed with courageous stories that are

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no doubt going to inspire decisions that you will admit,

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you know right away, that didn't come for me. That

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from God. And Nicole Simullin was gracious enough to share

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this with us, and you will be blessed greatly by

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this new book. It's never wrong to do the right thing.

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Nicole C. Mullin has been our guests and call I'm

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going to let you wrap it up. How can people

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get their hands on your book?

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They can get the book anywhere that books are sold

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on different platforms, Amazon, Barnes, and Noble. It's also on

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audible audible dot com. You can listen to me read

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it to you. And for more information or for booking

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or for masterclasses, you can go to Nicole C. Mullen

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emul Eon dot com, nicocmullen dot com.

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