Sept. 19, 2025

The Bill Martinez Show 09 19 25

The Bill Martinez Show 09 19 25
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The Bill Martinez Show 09 19 25
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Are you ready?

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Yeah, Okay, let's do it.

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Ill Martinez Live a program about current events, our culture,

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our values, our politics, and our future. And now Bill Martinez, Well.

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Good morning America. Six minutes after the top of they

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are Bill Martinez here with the infamous a doctor John Lott.

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Because look, gun control myths. You didn't realize your infamous, right.

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I guess a few people pointed that out to me,

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but I didn't know you would bring it up also,

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So anyway, thanks.

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Well, it's becoming more than colloquial. I mean, you know,

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we go to you and you know, we see some

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of these crazy, uh you know, gun control myths and

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things that fly out there. And of course we had

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as a result of you know, the Kirk murder. You know,

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we got some crazy opinions flying out there, and you know,

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so I said, hey, I got to talk to doctor

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John and get us straight. So tell us about the

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latest myth. What's going on here?

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Well, the Anti Defamation League for years has put out

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this report each year on murder and extremism in the

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United States. They recently came out with their report for

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twenty twenty four. I haven't gone through their report for

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twenty twenty four yet, but I've gone through it for

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other years and it's just a joke. They basically classify

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anybody who's a white supremacist or anti government as a

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right wing extremist, and so you'll have situations like in

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twenty twenty two, you had the Buffalo mass murderer at

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the grocery store there. They classify him as a right

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winger because he was a racist.

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But what they.

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Ignore is that he himself classified himself as an eco

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fascistational socialist. He called himself a mild moderate authoritarian leftist,

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and the reason why he hated minorities was that he

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viewed them as invaders who were overpopulating the world, and

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that he thought that people that have kids were damaging

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the environment. He didn't want people to have any children,

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and he thought that they were having too many children. So,

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you know, maybe you deal with a different group of conservatives,

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and I do. Maybe I'm just very kind of isolated

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on this, but I don't know a lot of conservatives

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who are, you know, upset about people having children, and

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you know, it's just crazy stuff. I don't know a

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lot of conservatives that classify themselves as socialists. And yet,

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you know, that's what this guy does. And then and

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then you have the murderer in Colorado Springs, who they

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also classify as a right winger. But what they ignore

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is that this person classified himself as non binary. He

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had pronouns like the they and them. I mean, it's

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true he was a white supremacist, or at least he

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participated in websites that were white supremacists. But you know,

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this notion that somehow only people on the right can

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be racist is simply crazy. I mean, it just makes

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absolutely no sense.

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And if you guess about all the BLM participants, I mean,

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clearly we're racist or that's just a different definition for them.

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Yeah, well I think you're right. I think that's exactly

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the point. And so you know, and it's not just

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these guys, but the Apasso mass murderer, the murderer in Ohio,

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others that were environmentalists. You know, it just and the thing,

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if you just changed those two classificated twenty two rather

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than all thems I'm claiming being done by right wingers,

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sixty percent of the murders were by left wingers. If

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you just changed those two, and there's other ones that

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you could go in and reclassify too. So it's just,

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you know, it's just but the unfortunately, the media just

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uncritically accepts these guys' claims. You know, it doesn't look

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at it because.

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It fits there, it fits their narrative. I mean, look

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at you know, Jimmy Kimmel. I mean, he you know,

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I don't understand what he was thinking, you know, to

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make that kind of statement. But again, he's so ideologically.

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He made it on Monday. He made it on Monday

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after it was already clear that this guy's partner was transgender,

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that everybody was speaking out that this guy was leftist.

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You know, so it was already announced multiple times, already

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been confirmed. I mean, there have been press release last

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week about this. But even after law enforcement had had

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a press conference with regard to this, even though after

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documents have been released, you know, on Monday evening, he's

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going out and making a claim that you know that somehow,

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you know, mega people were desperately looking for some way

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to deny that it was somehow a conservative right winger

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who had killed Charlie Kirk because you know, supposedly because

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Charlie Kirk wasn't right wing enough. I mean, one just

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has to go and look at the etchings, the engraving

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on the ammunition where he said, you know, catch this fascist.

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You know, are a lot of people who would think

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that Charlie Kirk supposedly wasn't conservative enough to go and

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say that, would call him a fascist. You know, that's

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the type of rhetoric that people on the left do

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to go and talk about furries and transgender references. There

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is that somebody who's you know, to the to the

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right of Charlie Kirk would be upset about comments that

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he made. You know that somehow it was hate language

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that Charlie Kirk had against transgender and and and and

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furry type people. No, I mean, that's obviously a concern

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of only people on the crazy left, and the notion

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anyway that Charlie Kirk was making hate speech against those

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individuals is also nuts. I mean, Charlie Kirk made it

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very clear that if you're an adult and you want

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to go and cut up your body in different ways,

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you know, that's your choice. He was very libertarian on that. Now,

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when you're talking about a minor, you know who maybe

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thirteen fourteen or fifteen sterilizing themselves or being sterilized. You know,

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he said, you know, he would draw a line between

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a minor an adult. Now that doesn't mean that he

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approved of people doing it, or that he would advocate

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that they do it, and he would be concerned that

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adults would do that, but he would still say, you know,

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it's your choice as an adult. And if you listen

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to the discussions there, he's asking people questions, you know,

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like what do you define a woman? Ask and he's

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letting people define it himself themselves. Of course they wouldn't.

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He'd say, define it without using the term woman, and

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people would say, well, you're a woman if you say

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you're a woman, And he said, okay, can you define

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it with you know, definitions. You don't go through a

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dictionary and see them using the word to define the

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word itself. It's just a logical thing. But for some reason,

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these college students wouldn't even understand that basic point that

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was there. But that's not asking somebody to define their

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own terms. The way they want to define it is

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hardly hate speech. And yet you know, that's the way

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people on the left were doing it. So somehow, you know,

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claiming that he hated hated people who are transgender, and

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that he was advocating for their death, you know, somehow

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justified them going and killing him. Those are all all

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the type of rhetoric you hear from the left, not

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from people on the right. And yet you know, you

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have Jimmy kill And I have to say one of

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the most bizarre things to me. I don't know if

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you saw this where Barack Obama just a night or

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two ago, was commenting on Charlie Kirk's murder, and you know,

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he said, you know, we should feel sympathy basically for

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anybody who's killed. And then he went on for this

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long diet tribe about all the horrible things that Charlie

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Kirk supposedly said, saying, you know that Obama's wife, Michelle

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and Justice Jackson just don't have you know, a much

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mental capacity. That's that's not what he said. He didn't

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go and say that black women were stupid. What he

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said was is that people are getting affirmative action, and

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so you don't always have the smartest people going and

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getting you know, you know, admitted to colleges and stuff,

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exactly poles or whatever.

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Okay, let's go to quick break. We'll pick it up

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on the other side. More from doctor John Lott. After

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this stay with us.

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Nineteen minutes after the top of our Doctor John Locke,

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the author of Gun Control miss is with us. He's

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the president of the Crime Prevention Research Center. John, if

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we can, I want to recount the story because we

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may have lost it a little bit here regarding Barack

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Obama and what he had to say, which just seemed

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to be out of context and it was just really

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hard to believe. Again, you just feel like, in the

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Barack Obama type of the storytelling, it was just another

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one of those myths and narratives that he wants to

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push on the American people. To me, it deviated from

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reality and truth. That's just me my humble opinion.

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What do you say, Well, I mean, I guess I

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agree with your humble opinion there. You know, So Barack Obama,

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who just divides people, you know, such a divisive person

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to make these types of comments. In the wake of

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Charlie Kirk's murder, he would say, he said, quote Michelle Obama,

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his wife, and Justice Jackson, who are both black women.

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He claimed that Charlie Kirk said they did not have

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quote adequate brain processing power.

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End quote.

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And you know, it's.

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Just completely taking out of context. All he said was

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that affirmative action meant that you don't always get the

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most qualified people to be admitted to colleges, for example.

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And you know, it's one thing to go and admit

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people based upon you know, their test scores or grades

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or other things like that. It's another thing to go

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and admit them based on the color of their skin.

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And so I don't know how you can disagree with that.

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He's not saying that any particular person. He's not saying

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that Michelle Obama or Justice Jackson don't have adequate brain

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processing power. I mean, I may not think Justice Jackson's

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a particularly bright person from looking at it, But Charlie

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Kirk made no such reference to a particular person that's there.

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And you know, or Obama was saying things like he

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was against the nineteen sixty four Civil Rights Act, that

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it was quote a mistake, that's again not what he said.

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He in fact explicitly said that, you know, he didn't

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think it was perfect, but he wasn't going to get

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rid of it. What he would prefer is something that

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just went and had a one page thing that just

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said you can't discriminate on the basis of race. And

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he explained it by saying that, unfortunately, the way the

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nineteen sixty four Civil Rights Act was written is that

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the courts have used that to go into things like

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transgender rights and for gay rights and things like that.

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appropriate to go and do those types of things. And so,

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you know, it's just just completely taking out a context

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all those statements. And he just went on he had

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other statements that were there that were just lies. But

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you could hear the audience that Obama was basically making

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into a frenzy there about it. And I have to

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tell you, so, after I saw the clip with Obama

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making these things, I went to X and asked Rock

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whether or not the statements that Obama was making.

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Were act or not.

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And I have to tell you it was very, uh depressing,

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because groc just went to you know, the fact checkers

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that were there and went to some of the news

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articles by Reuters and other people that made the same

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out of context type things. They would take, you know,

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one part of a quote that he had and uh

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and completely misrepresent both of those points that we just

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went through and uh, you know, so it's and to

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some exident, I can't blame GROC. I mean, it's just

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using the media. But the media is so biased on

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so many things. And we've seen this in terms of

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their coverage of these recent you know, mass shooting in

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Minnesota and and uh, you know, the Charlotte train stabbing

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and things like that, and so you know, AI relies

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on these media stories, and so you're just getting you know,

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the biases from the media just being repeated to you exactly.

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I mean, why why couldn't they have I mean, you

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hope that at some point Grock evolves to the point

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that they give you context or they give you the

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exact quote here's the quote. Because if you're if you're

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relying on the media resources, then you got so much

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opinion because as we know, uh, professional journalism has been

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altered so dramatically, John in the last couple of decades.

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It was nothing like when I went to journalism and

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was a broadcast journalist. You know, there were specific principles

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and conditions that had to be in play. Now it's

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very fast and loose. It's about clicks, it's about you know,

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more about entertainment than information. And this is why the

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American people are distancing themselves from these one time, you know,

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resources for news. They don't know exactly where to go.

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Even with the amount of podcasters and all this information

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flying out there, it's almost like you have to test

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drive and figure out, Okay, I can be with this

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podcaster for a while until they go off the reservation

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and do something goofy and which you know, we all

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will make a mistake and something. But you've got to

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at least have the semblance and respect for your audience

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to say, hey, I want to update you. This information

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I gave you was incorrect and I want to update it,

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you know. And but that's it's a rare commodity these days, John,

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I agree.

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I mean, look, when you went through journalism school, I'm

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sure one of the things that you were told was

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that you had to have both sides of the story,

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that you'd go and interview people on both sides. Read

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articles these days, any article in the New York Times

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or worse than posts, and it's like they never interview

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people on both sides, you know, It's like always just

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on one side.

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And well, I hate anonymous I hate anonymous research.

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Right right, and also anonymous stuff all the time. But

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I'm just saying, even when they identify the people that

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are there and they're doing something like evaluating some new

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study that's been out or whatever, they only seem to

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be able to find people on one side of the issue.

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It's kind of like they want to communicate to their

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readers that, look, there's no reasonable person on the other

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side that we can go and talk to. It's not

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surprising that you have this type of golf that's there.

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I mean, I have to tell you, I'm not shocked

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anymore that we have people like Charlie Kirk's murderer, who

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you know, becomes this crazy leftist. I mean, he grew

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up in a conservative family. His dad apparently was a

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Trump supporter. His mom was obviously horrified when she recognize

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the picture as possibly being her son that was there.

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And but you know, he goes to college, he you know,

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reads the media. I mean, I've seen this even with

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my own kids. They go to college, all their professors

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are on the left, all their friends. I mean, I

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was on admissions at Wharton when I taught there, and

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and you know, you look at admissions for undergraduates and

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maybe six to eight percent of kids at Ivy League

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schools entering students are classified as conservatives. Maybe seventy five

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eighty percent classify themselves for freshmen as liberals. That's not

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by accident. They look for proxies when they're deciding admissions.

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You know, if you're an Eagle Scout back in the nineties,

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you're not going to get admitted to Wharton because they

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think that they're more like be conservative. And so the

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few conservatives that they let in there, all their professors

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are liberal. You know, their friends are all liberals. And

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the notion is maybe they'll make even those few conservatives

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that they let in will become more liberal over time.

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And I think there's probably something to that. I know

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my daughter in twenty twenty she was afraid to go

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and vote for Trump because she was afraid that none

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of her friends would talk to her after that. And

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I said, well, you don't need to tell them, and

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they said, well, they'll ask and if she can't lie,

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which I admire that she wasn't willing to lie to them,

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and you know, and she was afraid that if she

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refused to answer, they would assume that she had voted

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for Trump. And she didn't want to alienate all of

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her friends.

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Well, John, the takeaway here as we wrap things up,

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L's absurd claim that one hundred percent domestic extremements.

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It's just complete omitted.

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It's just But the thing is, sadly is we're gonna

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have to put up with it because you're going to

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hear Democrats. You're gonna hear you know, go right on

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down the line from Jakim Jeffries to Nancy Pelosi quoting this.

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You know to me, it should be just clearly debunked.

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It should have no credence, and it shouldn't that be

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part of the public public squares discussion. It needs to

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be invalidated and canceled.

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Well. As I said, I've written on this before, published

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op eds on their early reports, but you're probably giving

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me the impetus to go and write another one. People

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can find what we've done at our website at crimeresearch

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dot org to go through some of their past reports

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and just search under a d L and they'll find

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the stuff.

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Well doctor John Lott. He is the author of Gun

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Control miss and the president of the Crime Prevention Research Center.

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Doctor John has always appreciate the time, take care, be well,

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my friend.

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That's about Bill?

475
00:29:22.640 --> 00:29:23.039
How are you?

476
00:29:23.279 --> 00:29:26.799
Well? You know, I'm with you. I mean, I got

477
00:29:26.799 --> 00:29:29.880
to tell you, I am really shocked, and I don't

478
00:29:29.880 --> 00:29:34.400
know why. Maybe because of this. The murder of Charlie

479
00:29:34.440 --> 00:29:38.200
Kirk has just been a real stark wake up call

480
00:29:38.279 --> 00:29:40.480
for me. I mean, it's like we all knew it

481
00:29:40.559 --> 00:29:42.839
was bad, but I don't know that we thought it

482
00:29:42.880 --> 00:29:43.839
was this bad Deroy.

483
00:29:44.880 --> 00:29:48.880
Yeah, I agree with you. I watched I got an

484
00:29:48.920 --> 00:29:51.359
email not long after you and I spoke last week.

485
00:29:52.039 --> 00:29:54.000
In my email feed, I got this little thing saying,

486
00:29:54.039 --> 00:29:56.240
Charlie Kirk has been shot. I was at my office

487
00:29:56.279 --> 00:29:57.920
at Fox News. I turned on the TV on my

488
00:29:57.960 --> 00:30:01.480
desk and we're shot. At first something okay, maybe it

489
00:30:01.519 --> 00:30:03.920
grais his shoulder or hit him in the thigh, whatever.

490
00:30:04.359 --> 00:30:07.039
And as that, you know, as the information went on on,

491
00:30:07.079 --> 00:30:08.920
it got worse and worse. Eventually we heard from President

492
00:30:08.960 --> 00:30:13.240
Trump that he succumbed to his gunshot wound. I saw

493
00:30:13.240 --> 00:30:15.680
the video of him getting shot, which is which is horrific.

494
00:30:15.720 --> 00:30:18.799
But I think people see that they'll understand that when

495
00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:21.160
political violence like this happens, it isn't just that somebody

496
00:30:21.200 --> 00:30:24.279
gets hit by bullet magically just you know, grows wings

497
00:30:24.319 --> 00:30:26.359
and flies to heaven and disappears. I mean, it's a

498
00:30:26.519 --> 00:30:29.559
very very heinous, horrific thing, and frankly, I think people

499
00:30:29.599 --> 00:30:31.119
ought to see that so they know what this means,

500
00:30:31.319 --> 00:30:33.640
so when they applaud it, they understand exactly what's involved.

501
00:30:34.200 --> 00:30:38.440
What I was not prepared for was the response we've

502
00:30:38.480 --> 00:30:40.519
seen on the left. I mean, these people could have

503
00:30:40.519 --> 00:30:43.200
a handful of them, and Bernie Sanders, one will may

504
00:30:43.319 --> 00:30:46.400
discuss later, said the right thing and expressed condolences and

505
00:30:47.279 --> 00:30:49.400
said a few gracious words about his talents, and then

506
00:30:49.799 --> 00:30:55.200
wished sympathies to his family. Other people, I guess, stayed quiet,

507
00:30:55.200 --> 00:30:56.920
which I think can do if you don't like Charlie

508
00:30:56.960 --> 00:30:59.200
Kirk or somebody who dies just you know, clam up,

509
00:30:59.599 --> 00:31:02.400
nothing good, say, say nothing at all. But more than that,

510
00:31:02.440 --> 00:31:04.279
which I didn't expect, and I imagine you and our

511
00:31:04.319 --> 00:31:08.920
listeners didn't expect this tremendous outpouring of joy and glee

512
00:31:08.960 --> 00:31:11.640
and celebration. You know, ding Dong witch is dead, if

513
00:31:11.640 --> 00:31:14.519
you will, with all these people cheering and laughing and

514
00:31:14.799 --> 00:31:18.279
literally dancing not even on his grave, because not buried it,

515
00:31:18.319 --> 00:31:21.480
but dancing on Charlie Kirk's casket, if you will. Day

516
00:31:21.519 --> 00:31:25.759
after day of these celebrations of people just showing such

517
00:31:26.039 --> 00:31:29.720
excitement and and and glee at his death. I didn't

518
00:31:29.720 --> 00:31:30.640
expect to see.

519
00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:30.880
That at all.

520
00:31:30.920 --> 00:31:33.640
That was truly horrifying. It continues. I mean, I'm still

521
00:31:33.680 --> 00:31:37.000
seeing day after day, people who are in the media,

522
00:31:37.119 --> 00:31:41.160
people who are in the restaurant business, some politicians, lots

523
00:31:41.160 --> 00:31:44.720
and lots of students expressing, you know, their absolute ecstasy.

524
00:31:45.279 --> 00:31:47.759
Not just that Charlie Kirk is out of the off

525
00:31:47.799 --> 00:31:50.920
the political landscape, but at the way he the way

526
00:31:50.960 --> 00:31:53.480
he was murdered, he was taken, the way he was,

527
00:31:54.599 --> 00:31:57.119
as you say, murdered assassay taken from us in just

528
00:31:57.160 --> 00:31:58.799
about the most gruesome way imaginable.

529
00:31:59.680 --> 00:32:03.400
Yeah. And the thing is, like you said, you know

530
00:32:03.880 --> 00:32:11.240
the spectrum of people that were involved. We're talking professionals, doctors, teachers, lawyers,

531
00:32:11.319 --> 00:32:13.880
I mean, you know, educated people that you think, wait

532
00:32:13.920 --> 00:32:17.680
a minute, are we've gotten that cold hearted as a

533
00:32:17.720 --> 00:32:22.920
culture to where we think that somehow this is acceptable politicians.

534
00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:26.519
I mean, the things that elan Omar had to say

535
00:32:26.599 --> 00:32:30.559
and AOC and that it's just disgusting. It's like, wait

536
00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:33.640
a minute, you know, and here, I mean, this should

537
00:32:33.640 --> 00:32:35.240
be a real wake up call. I mean, at least

538
00:32:35.279 --> 00:32:37.079
before they would say, hey, guys, we need to tamp

539
00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:40.720
this down, even you know, even the former first lady,

540
00:32:40.759 --> 00:32:43.559
Oh when they go they go you know, lo, we

541
00:32:43.599 --> 00:32:45.680
go high. You know, even though I don't think she

542
00:32:45.759 --> 00:32:48.119
understood really what it's not as good.

543
00:32:48.039 --> 00:32:49.559
As a sound by it's not a good shouldn't mean

544
00:32:49.559 --> 00:32:51.599
it but so good but.

545
00:32:51.640 --> 00:32:55.640
Still nonetheless okay, maybe the sentiment even as foe as

546
00:32:55.640 --> 00:32:58.720
it was, Okay, it kind of softened it a little bit.

547
00:32:58.960 --> 00:33:01.519
But here it's just like no, they just all came

548
00:33:01.559 --> 00:33:03.680
out of the closet and said, hey, we don't care

549
00:33:03.799 --> 00:33:05.240
and then look a look at this. I mean, I

550
00:33:05.240 --> 00:33:07.400
think what was it. I think a couple of months ago,

551
00:33:07.440 --> 00:33:10.359
because you and I talked about they did this kind

552
00:33:10.440 --> 00:33:14.799
of violence, assassination, you know, study and we're showing that

553
00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:18.680
the people, the sentiment towards assassination and killing you know,

554
00:33:18.759 --> 00:33:21.640
politicians was becoming more and more acceptable. And then a

555
00:33:21.680 --> 00:33:24.759
recent study came out and said that five out of

556
00:33:24.839 --> 00:33:30.039
ten left wing left wingers approve of political violence. Five

557
00:33:30.039 --> 00:33:30.839
out of ten.

558
00:33:31.440 --> 00:33:34.200
That's happening. I mean, how many millions of people?

559
00:33:34.240 --> 00:33:36.000
And that's that's a lot of people.

560
00:33:36.079 --> 00:33:38.920
Thirty thirty forty million people, something crazy like that. Yeah,

561
00:33:39.440 --> 00:33:41.920
there was one guy who posted on on I think

562
00:33:41.960 --> 00:33:44.759
on x or Instagram one or the other. One down

563
00:33:44.839 --> 00:33:48.359
millions to go. So it's not just somebody who's able

564
00:33:48.400 --> 00:33:50.279
to draw a crowd. You're talking millions, talking about basically

565
00:33:50.279 --> 00:33:53.160
anybody who voted a publican, anybody voted for Trump. This

566
00:33:53.240 --> 00:33:56.240
is that's something borders on or something hints at genocide.

567
00:33:56.680 --> 00:33:56.799
Uh.

568
00:33:56.960 --> 00:34:00.240
And the lengths with which these people have gone. The

569
00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:05.039
mainstream dinosaur media spent most last weekend trying to say, well,

570
00:34:07.400 --> 00:34:11.239
Tyler Robinson, the alleged assassin, he's really not a left

571
00:34:11.280 --> 00:34:13.559
wing he's actually a mega mega kind of guy, and

572
00:34:13.599 --> 00:34:16.039
he killed Charlie Kirk as Charlie Kirk was just too

573
00:34:16.119 --> 00:34:17.800
much of a rhino, too liberally, you know, you know,

574
00:34:18.119 --> 00:34:21.920
can't have those those you know, establishment bushy types in

575
00:34:21.960 --> 00:34:23.800
the party. So let's take him out. I mean, if

576
00:34:23.800 --> 00:34:25.920
you're a mega maga person who support Donald J. Trump,

577
00:34:25.960 --> 00:34:28.760
you don't take out somebody who might be as possibly

578
00:34:28.760 --> 00:34:31.719
his most effective political operative out in the field. That

579
00:34:31.800 --> 00:34:34.679
just makes zero sense. But you still had MSNBC and

580
00:34:34.679 --> 00:34:36.360
CNN and these other people saying, well, you know, his

581
00:34:36.440 --> 00:34:39.199
parents were Republicans, so he must have been a Republican too,

582
00:34:39.239 --> 00:34:41.400
and you know he's really a big, you know, pro

583
00:34:41.440 --> 00:34:43.599
Trump guy who took out Charlie Kirk. It it makes

584
00:34:43.599 --> 00:34:45.719
no sense, but spend a whole weekend on that. And

585
00:34:45.719 --> 00:34:49.480
then he had people running around doing these fake deep

586
00:34:49.480 --> 00:34:51.239
fakes where they took a picture of him standing in

587
00:34:51.239 --> 00:34:54.199
a burgundy T shirt and then doctored so it'd say

588
00:34:54.239 --> 00:34:55.639
Trump on it, so they could say, oh, my god,

589
00:34:55.679 --> 00:34:57.639
look there is at Trump T shirt that was you know,

590
00:34:57.760 --> 00:35:00.639
AI or some photoshop or something like that. And I

591
00:35:00.679 --> 00:35:02.840
think maybe most chilling of all, and maybe it'll be

592
00:35:02.840 --> 00:35:04.960
more chilling, you know, later on today when I see

593
00:35:04.960 --> 00:35:07.119
something else. But they actually come up with a list

594
00:35:07.599 --> 00:35:11.840
of people who should be next, including Ben Shapiro, including

595
00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:16.599
Dennis Piger, Carlson Carlson, JK Rowling, the woman wrote the

596
00:35:16.639 --> 00:35:20.039
Harry Potter novels and the basis for the movies. And

597
00:35:20.079 --> 00:35:21.360
they're saying, all right, they ought to be an next,

598
00:35:21.360 --> 00:35:24.519
but they'll put them on the two do list. It's astonishing.

599
00:35:24.559 --> 00:35:26.679
And this isn't just one or two people. This is

600
00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:29.360
we have hundreds and hundreds of examples of this sort

601
00:35:29.400 --> 00:35:31.440
of thing, and a handful of people, like I say,

602
00:35:31.480 --> 00:35:35.119
Bernie Sanders saying, look, political violences, violence is terrible, we

603
00:35:35.119 --> 00:35:37.159
shouldn't do this. I thought he did a very good

604
00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:39.679
job in his statement, both a written transcript and a

605
00:35:39.760 --> 00:35:42.880
video he put out. I think the day after the assassination,

606
00:35:42.920 --> 00:35:45.320
I thought, by don't agree with Bernie Sanders on very much,

607
00:35:45.360 --> 00:35:47.440
but wrote a piece of American Inspectator on this and

608
00:35:47.480 --> 00:35:49.480
saying Bernie Sanders is right. He said just the right

609
00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:52.320
things that you would expect every political leader to say.

610
00:35:53.159 --> 00:35:55.079
And among Democrats, he's one of the few said anything

611
00:35:55.119 --> 00:35:56.719
like this. A lot of them have stayed quiet, and

612
00:35:56.760 --> 00:35:58.679
a lot of them jumped on the bandwagon and are

613
00:35:58.719 --> 00:36:02.199
just you know, kicking it Charlie Kirk's body before it's

614
00:36:02.199 --> 00:36:03.000
even burying the ground.

615
00:36:03.760 --> 00:36:06.400
Well, you know, and you watch and listen to some

616
00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:11.119
of these pundits and this, and I'm like a Greg Gutfield.

617
00:36:11.280 --> 00:36:13.440
I agree with Greg Gutfield on this, and that is

618
00:36:13.440 --> 00:36:17.280
that I'm getting tired of hearing this. You tooism, you know,

619
00:36:17.599 --> 00:36:19.239
you too do it? You know, you to it. You're

620
00:36:19.239 --> 00:36:22.199
both doing it. Both sides, you know, are doing it. No,

621
00:36:22.480 --> 00:36:25.119
it's predominantly on the left. They're the ones that are

622
00:36:25.119 --> 00:36:28.960
bringing guns. And you know, the whole trans issue and

623
00:36:29.079 --> 00:36:31.719
all that that every time you know something comes up,

624
00:36:32.360 --> 00:36:34.960
you know, you hesitate and then you find out okay.

625
00:36:35.039 --> 00:36:40.079
Here recently it's like, man, you know, somebody is being

626
00:36:40.199 --> 00:36:44.920
transitioned or has transit in this case, was transition sympathies

627
00:36:45.320 --> 00:36:50.719
because of his boyfriend or his partner, and you know,

628
00:36:51.360 --> 00:36:55.639
it all kind of comes together social the social media component,

629
00:36:55.960 --> 00:37:00.360
people being siloed and talking, you know, very old openly

630
00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:04.159
and recklessly about murder. I mean, it's almost and we've

631
00:37:04.159 --> 00:37:07.360
talked about this over the years, Deroy, that the gaming

632
00:37:07.440 --> 00:37:09.880
culture is such that, you know, these kids grow up

633
00:37:09.920 --> 00:37:13.559
watching television and playing these violent games on TV. It

634
00:37:13.719 --> 00:37:16.440
seems like, you know, it's not a human boy, you know,

635
00:37:16.559 --> 00:37:18.639
humanoid anymore. I mean, you know, Charlie Kirk might as

636
00:37:18.679 --> 00:37:20.679
well just been a you know, an avatar and it

637
00:37:20.760 --> 00:37:22.760
was no big deal. You know, he's going to get shot,

638
00:37:22.880 --> 00:37:25.119
just like you said, shot and grow wings and you know,

639
00:37:25.159 --> 00:37:27.119
go to heaven and you know, come back to live

640
00:37:27.159 --> 00:37:29.360
another day. And be with his wife and his kids

641
00:37:29.480 --> 00:37:32.000
or something, I don't know, pretty pretty bizarre.

642
00:37:32.239 --> 00:37:34.239
Or something like maybe like Wiley Coyote and the old

643
00:37:34.440 --> 00:37:36.760
you know, bugs Body and Luditunes cartoons. You know, he

644
00:37:36.800 --> 00:37:39.519
has a giant boulder following him and flatting him like

645
00:37:39.559 --> 00:37:41.880
a pancake, and the next minute he's back to normal

646
00:37:41.960 --> 00:37:43.880
and you know, trying to get the road runner. I

647
00:37:43.920 --> 00:37:46.000
think people may think that's sort of that's how work

648
00:37:46.079 --> 00:37:48.440
life works. And of course what you have instead is

649
00:37:48.519 --> 00:37:50.599
a poor young man with blood gushing out of his

650
00:37:50.639 --> 00:37:52.239
neck and who's now in a casket and he's going

651
00:37:52.320 --> 00:37:55.239
to be buried the ground in an Arizona on Sunday.

652
00:37:55.280 --> 00:37:57.159
And then that that's the reality, not you know, the

653
00:37:57.159 --> 00:37:59.800
idea of either a cartoon or a video game where

654
00:37:59.880 --> 00:38:01.400
just you know, as you say, springs back to life

655
00:38:01.440 --> 00:38:04.760
right away. You mentioned that another aspect of this which

656
00:38:04.800 --> 00:38:06.800
is so grating, and that is the whole. Well, both

657
00:38:06.840 --> 00:38:09.199
sides do it, Both sides do it. Well, Look, they

658
00:38:09.239 --> 00:38:11.280
always the left toys points of January sixth, that we

659
00:38:11.320 --> 00:38:13.239
did have people on January sixth who went into the

660
00:38:13.360 --> 00:38:16.079
US capitalis shouldn't some of them kick down doors and

661
00:38:16.079 --> 00:38:19.000
broke down windows to get in as the electoral College

662
00:38:19.320 --> 00:38:22.239
votes are being counted after the twenty twenty election, and

663
00:38:22.280 --> 00:38:24.159
you and I and others have denounced them and said

664
00:38:24.199 --> 00:38:27.320
anybody went in violently should beat in jail. There's no

665
00:38:27.440 --> 00:38:29.679
question about that. And you, all right, what else you got? Well,

666
00:38:29.719 --> 00:38:31.559
they don't have much else, you know. They can't think

667
00:38:31.559 --> 00:38:34.599
of other examples of this giant, giant wave of right

668
00:38:34.639 --> 00:38:36.840
wing violence. But it's very easy for us to point

669
00:38:36.840 --> 00:38:40.079
to things that the left is done. Just to name

670
00:38:40.119 --> 00:38:43.119
a few, ran Paul's neighbor running up and tackling him

671
00:38:43.119 --> 00:38:46.119
and breaking his ribs, the George Floyd riots, which I

672
00:38:46.119 --> 00:38:49.880
think killed something like about forty fifty people, billions of

673
00:38:49.880 --> 00:38:52.320
dollars in damage. We had the rights in Los Angeles

674
00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:55.679
just a few weeks ago. You remember those fires down

675
00:38:55.719 --> 00:38:59.639
in downtown LA and the Weimo vehicles being summoned in

676
00:38:59.679 --> 00:39:04.159
and on fire, all the wave of attacks on Tesla vehicles,

677
00:39:04.199 --> 00:39:08.280
Tesla owners, and Tesla facilities. You may recall that facility

678
00:39:08.280 --> 00:39:11.039
at a Tesla dealership in Las Vegas, where I think

679
00:39:11.039 --> 00:39:14.519
three or four Tesla's were on fire. I did a

680
00:39:14.519 --> 00:39:18.559
piece for Daily Signal. I talked about other specific.

681
00:39:18.440 --> 00:39:19.960
All right, I'll tell you what we got to go

682
00:39:19.960 --> 00:39:22.039
to quick break. Let's go ahead to pod button, go

683
00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:24.159
to break. We'll be right back. Stay with the slavey gentlemen.

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Welcome back, Bill Martinez here along with the man based

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Fox News contributed to Roy Murdoch Deroy. We're just talking about,

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you know, all the violence taking place and you know

763
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Tesla's being targeted, and you were just beginning the story

764
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about what happened in Vegas.

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Go ahead, yeah, so other examples of left wing violence,

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you know, the left flight. Like I say, well, both

767
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sides do it, and it's you know, an even number,

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uh even steven. As far as violence goes beyond January sixth,

769
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there's not much that can point to on the right

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on the left. As I was saying, you have this

771
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is nothing new, these attacks on Turning Point USA. This

772
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is the first one that's been fatal, but not the

773
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first time. The Turning Point USA has had difficulties getting

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its message out on college campuses. This according to a

775
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group called FIRE, the Foundation for Independent Rights and Expression.

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They said that there is an article by Nico Pirino,

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the executive vice president, and he says that there have

778
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been fourteen attempts to stop Charlie Kirk from speaking on

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campuses since twenty twenty one. They've had writ letters to

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college campuses saying, you know, we want this guy to speak.

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They've had a number of instances, one notorious one where

782
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Riley Gaines was at San Francisco State University to give

783
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a talk about men and women's sports. She got to

784
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chased down the hall and had to barricade herself in

785
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a computer room till the San Francisco Police Department could

786
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rescue her. There've been other instances where people have shown

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up on campus. The left is disrupted, them pulled, fire alarms,

788
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circled the encircled the facility where people are speaking, banging

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on the windows so people couldn't deliver their They've had

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to have the campus police escort the Turning Point USA

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leaders and the speakers out of these facilities. There's a

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case back in twenty nineteen, I think it was a

793
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young man by the name of Hayden Williams was volunteering

794
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for Turning Point USA. He actually worked for Leadership Institute.

795
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He was manning a literature table at UC Berkeley, just

796
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handing out literature so people could join Turning Point USA.

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And this is a thud named Zachary Greenberg, who's actually

798
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an Oakland based computer coder computer engineer, just goes up

799
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to him and just calls him inbred racist MF for

800
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a lot of words we can't say here in a

801
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family or an in program. And it just clocks the

802
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guy in the face gives him a black eye. Hayden

803
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Williams showed up on Hannity about six days later. The big,

804
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big fat shiner in the face. Hayden didn't attack Greenberg,

805
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didn't call him names, didn't say anything. The guy just

806
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goes up and socks him. So we've seen this over

807
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and over the left's response when they don't hear ideas

808
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they don't like too often and say, all right, well,

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we need to shut this person up. Either sock him

810
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in the face or burned out on his property, or unfortunately,

811
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as we saw in or in Utah, shoot him in

812
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the neck until he bleased to death. Well, this is

813
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unfortunately too much of what the American Left has become today.

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And what we found out here this week is Biden's

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Department of Justice, Thank you very much. You know, mister Garland,

816
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and you know, and this was being reported by Cash

817
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Batalit the FBI and the President that they targeted in

818
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twenty twenty two. They had targeted Turning Point USA, trying

819
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to do to them what they did what Obama did

820
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with the Tea Party.

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Yes, you know again, what did what did Turning Point

822
00:46:43.039 --> 00:46:45.800
USA do? Nobody ever accused Turning Point USA of any

823
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kind of violence, any kind of disruption. You can disagree

824
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with what they had to say, but they went on

825
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campuses and very peacefully either spoke or debated with the people. Nobody,

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nobody in the Turning Point USA side, either the organizers

827
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or the speakers or the staff Turning Point USA, did

828
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anything violent or threatening or timidating towards anyone.

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You know.

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Here comes the US Department of Justice investigating these folks.

831
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And this is a part of a brand new I

832
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didn't heard about this, or brand new to me, and

833
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brand new to all of them, Department of Justice investigation

834
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called Arctic Frost. And apparently it was not just Turning

835
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Point USA, but something like ninety two different conservative organizations

836
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and individuals who are being organized or rather being investigated

837
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by the US Department of Justice under Joe Biden's This

838
00:47:26.840 --> 00:47:29.599
shows that the weaponization of the Department of Justice was

839
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much much broader than we thought. Which we thought was

840
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plenty broad, now turns out that it's even a bigger

841
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problem than we thought. And this is the same federal

842
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government that went after conservatives under the Obama administration with

843
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the IRS when a lot of them in the Tea Party movement,

844
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a lot of these Tea Party groups were trying to

845
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get organized and trying to get five oh one C

846
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three status so they could raise money for educational purposes,

847
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and the Department of the IRS rather under a woman

848
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named Lewis Learner, dragged their feet, took their time, asked

849
00:47:56.639 --> 00:47:59.079
them all sorts of invasive questions, like what kind of

850
00:47:59.079 --> 00:48:01.559
books do you read at your events? You know, send

851
00:48:01.639 --> 00:48:04.119
us a list of your speakers, what kind of prayers

852
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do you say at your meetings? I mean, my God,

853
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the US government asking people about the content of their

854
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prayers exacts such a thing as totalitarian as that. A

855
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lot of these groups never got their five h one

856
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C three status. They couldn't raise any money. They had

857
00:48:15.760 --> 00:48:18.079
to disband, and that turned out to be very convenient

858
00:48:18.960 --> 00:48:21.480
in twenty twelve, because these groups would have educated people

859
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and they might have turned out and voted for Mitt

860
00:48:23.119 --> 00:48:26.519
Romney not for Obama. They never got hundreds of them

861
00:48:26.519 --> 00:48:29.000
didn't get organized, and guess what, Obama got re elected.

862
00:48:29.039 --> 00:48:31.920
So mission accomplished. So this is the kind of weaponization

863
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of the government that is perpetrated against the right, not

864
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against the left.

865
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Repeated, Well, you see to me, and the impact goes

866
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even to this day. De roy I say probably eight

867
00:48:43.079 --> 00:48:46.039
to nine voting cycles have been affected because of what

868
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Obama's IRS lowest Learner did to these tea party groups

869
00:48:52.199 --> 00:48:56.519
in really neutering them, I mean, and it's still it's

870
00:48:56.519 --> 00:48:59.960
still there because they haven't been all healed. I mean,

871
00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:01.800
Jenny Beth Martin is doing a great job in the

872
00:49:02.199 --> 00:49:05.920
party activist group, but they are not to the level

873
00:49:05.960 --> 00:49:11.360
that they were back then, you know, when Obama did

874
00:49:11.400 --> 00:49:15.039
everything he could to execute the lawfair that they did,

875
00:49:15.280 --> 00:49:18.480
you know, debanking them and all these we're hearing about

876
00:49:18.599 --> 00:49:22.159
right now. I mean, I'll tell you and this is

877
00:49:22.199 --> 00:49:24.639
coming from one side, So don't tell me the Trump

878
00:49:24.800 --> 00:49:27.679
is doing this, I know, well, you know, both sides

879
00:49:27.719 --> 00:49:31.599
do it, no bs, you know it's it's this is

880
00:49:31.639 --> 00:49:35.320
coming predominantly from the left, and they affected this in

881
00:49:35.440 --> 00:49:38.599
much the same way. Let's go back to you know Johnson,

882
00:49:39.599 --> 00:49:44.440
you know President Johnson having you know, telling pastors that

883
00:49:44.519 --> 00:49:47.239
if you know, you couldn't tell you're faithful who to

884
00:49:47.320 --> 00:49:50.000
vote for from the pulpits and what kind of effect

885
00:49:50.079 --> 00:49:52.519
I mean, even to this day, even though they say,

886
00:49:52.559 --> 00:49:55.800
well you know that doesn't really you know, no, that

887
00:49:55.800 --> 00:49:59.199
that cloud still hangs over the pulpits of the churches

888
00:49:59.199 --> 00:50:00.599
in America to this day.

889
00:50:01.920 --> 00:50:03.559
Well, yeah, and as you say that, we've got some

890
00:50:03.639 --> 00:50:07.360
numbers behind this the again, FIRE, the Foundation for Individual

891
00:50:07.440 --> 00:50:11.079
Rights and Expression took a look at college campuses and

892
00:50:11.119 --> 00:50:13.639
where they've had what they call substantial event disruptions. This

893
00:50:13.719 --> 00:50:16.519
is where somebody steps in and either prevents a speaker

894
00:50:16.559 --> 00:50:19.920
from speaking, interrupts the speakers so the speaker can't finish

895
00:50:20.000 --> 00:50:21.960
or whatever. This isn't just sending petitions saying you know,

896
00:50:22.039 --> 00:50:23.679
we don't like so and so, disinvite him. That that

897
00:50:23.679 --> 00:50:26.159
doesn't count. That is where the event actually has either stopped,

898
00:50:26.320 --> 00:50:29.679
it never starts, or stops because of this intervention. And

899
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FIRE took a look at two hundred and six of

900
00:50:31.920 --> 00:50:35.519
these type of episodes I think since the year twenty twenty,

901
00:50:35.519 --> 00:50:39.000
if I'm not mistaken, and eighty six percent of those

902
00:50:39.159 --> 00:50:42.920
occasions where events were disrupted were disrupted by the left.

903
00:50:42.960 --> 00:50:45.599
Only fourteen percent of them were disrupted because of intervention

904
00:50:45.719 --> 00:50:48.559
from the right. So statistically that means that the left

905
00:50:48.599 --> 00:50:51.039
is six hundred and thirty five percent six hundred and

906
00:50:51.079 --> 00:50:54.440
thirty five percent more substantially disruptive than the right. So

907
00:50:54.519 --> 00:50:56.440
they did this all a fifty to fifty even Stephen

908
00:50:56.480 --> 00:50:59.760
thing as nonsense that the left is six times likely

909
00:51:00.519 --> 00:51:02.440
than the right to shut down a campus event and

910
00:51:02.480 --> 00:51:07.880
I saw something recently about figures on what percentage of

911
00:51:07.920 --> 00:51:10.400
people on the right approve of political violence versus people

912
00:51:10.400 --> 00:51:13.199
on the left. Interestingly enough, the number was about six

913
00:51:13.280 --> 00:51:17.079
to one. So these numbers seem to parallel very very consistently.

914
00:51:17.239 --> 00:51:18.760
So it seems like people on the left are six

915
00:51:18.840 --> 00:51:21.880
times more politically violent than people on the right. So

916
00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:24.079
I am very tired of the whole Both sides do it.

917
00:51:24.280 --> 00:51:25.760
You know, there is some of this.

918
00:51:25.800 --> 00:51:28.960
Activity on the right, but it's dwarfed completely about what

919
00:51:29.000 --> 00:51:30.960
happens on the left, which is much much worse, to

920
00:51:31.079 --> 00:51:33.599
the level of probably six to one.

921
00:51:34.400 --> 00:51:36.760
All that being said, De Roy, we have serious problems

922
00:51:36.760 --> 00:51:41.159
here in River City. You can't have these kind of numbers,

923
00:51:41.159 --> 00:51:44.239
as you and I had talked about before, of our electorate,

924
00:51:44.280 --> 00:51:48.159
of our neighbors, you know, that have gone so crazed

925
00:51:48.519 --> 00:51:53.840
that the constitution, you know, doesn't mean what it did.

926
00:51:55.000 --> 00:51:57.280
You know, it's like we're being upended, you know, from

927
00:51:57.320 --> 00:52:00.639
the inside out. And you know even from politics elected

928
00:52:00.679 --> 00:52:02.920
officials that you would think, hey, look at your number

929
00:52:02.960 --> 00:52:06.400
one job. You raise your hand to defend our country

930
00:52:06.440 --> 00:52:10.440
against all enemies, foreign and domestic. It's a national security issue.

931
00:52:10.519 --> 00:52:12.599
But yet you let your lips fly in such a

932
00:52:12.679 --> 00:52:15.960
way and you you know, you're you're calling people deplorable,

933
00:52:16.000 --> 00:52:19.119
you're calling them fascists, and then you say, oh, well

934
00:52:19.159 --> 00:52:22.039
it's not us. We didn't we never said anything. Well,

935
00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:24.480
we didn't like what. We don't have the we don't

936
00:52:24.480 --> 00:52:27.760
have the video, we don't have the evidence that you've

937
00:52:27.880 --> 00:52:31.039
been doing this for you know, for decades. It hasn't

938
00:52:31.280 --> 00:52:34.519
been something that you know, by accident and maybe you

939
00:52:34.599 --> 00:52:39.719
stuttered out something. No, I mean, even a presidential candidate

940
00:52:39.719 --> 00:52:44.039
from the Democratic Party. You know, Kamala Harris declared without

941
00:52:44.280 --> 00:52:46.440
hesitation that Donald Trump was a fascist.

942
00:52:47.119 --> 00:52:48.920
That's right, yeah, And she said that just lest Paul.

943
00:52:48.960 --> 00:52:51.679
This wasn't something she said, No, she said that. You

944
00:52:51.679 --> 00:52:54.679
hear the you know, Trump equals Hitler comment all the time.

945
00:52:54.960 --> 00:52:56.800
You know, people like you and I are just conservatives,

946
00:52:56.960 --> 00:52:59.400
we're fascists or we're Nazis, and people hear this and

947
00:52:59.400 --> 00:53:01.119
you figure, okay, well, if Trump is Hitler, what do

948
00:53:01.159 --> 00:53:03.400
you Hitler? You kill Hitler? So you not see what

949
00:53:03.400 --> 00:53:07.400
do you kill a Nazi? So as the followers, and

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00:53:07.440 --> 00:53:09.960
then don't be surprised if somebody out there who's you know,

951
00:53:10.039 --> 00:53:13.480
not exactly tether to reality thinks, well, let me take

952
00:53:13.480 --> 00:53:16.920
out the you know, orange hitler. And we saw two

953
00:53:16.960 --> 00:53:19.239
people try to do it, thank god, you know, one

954
00:53:19.559 --> 00:53:21.880
was able to fire his gun. One pulled the trigger

955
00:53:21.880 --> 00:53:24.559
and and grazed the present's ear. I mean one quarter

956
00:53:24.639 --> 00:53:26.880
inch to the uh, you know, to the left, I

957
00:53:26.920 --> 00:53:29.119
guess would be to the right, and Donald J. Trump

958
00:53:29.159 --> 00:53:31.519
would be in a casket right now. I mean, r

959
00:53:31.639 --> 00:53:33.760
he's very lucky to be very very very lucky to be alive.

960
00:53:34.159 --> 00:53:34.440
Uh.

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00:53:34.480 --> 00:53:38.039
And I hear very few people on the left saying,

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00:53:38.039 --> 00:53:39.840
all right, folks, you need to calm it down, cool it,

963
00:53:40.039 --> 00:53:41.920
you know, lower the temperature. Used to hear that, you say,

964
00:53:42.119 --> 00:53:43.840
when there were incidents like this in the past. I

965
00:53:43.840 --> 00:53:46.079
don't hear that very much right now. And there just

966
00:53:46.079 --> 00:53:48.239
seems to be real effort to egg people on. And

967
00:53:48.760 --> 00:53:50.760
I guess they're hoping that maybe somebody on the right

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00:53:50.840 --> 00:53:52.320
kills somebody on the left and we can get on

969
00:53:52.360 --> 00:53:54.480
with a civil war here. And I don't I don't

970
00:53:54.480 --> 00:53:56.039
see it as civil war like we saw back in

971
00:53:56.079 --> 00:53:59.440
the in the South in the eighteen sixties. And one

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00:53:59.480 --> 00:54:01.679
line of soul on one side of an open field,

973
00:54:01.719 --> 00:54:03.519
one line on the other. My fear is. I hope

974
00:54:03.559 --> 00:54:05.840
it doesn't happen, but if you know, if this erupts

975
00:54:05.840 --> 00:54:08.039
into civil war, it's going to be something more like

976
00:54:08.960 --> 00:54:11.239
what we saw in the UK with the British and Irish.

977
00:54:11.239 --> 00:54:14.719
You know, left wing bar blows up and the right

978
00:54:14.719 --> 00:54:17.239
wing bar blows up, and then a left wing newspaper

979
00:54:17.280 --> 00:54:20.840
has its lobby detonated, and then a left wing newspaper

980
00:54:21.840 --> 00:54:24.119
blows up and it becomes a tit for tat kind

981
00:54:24.119 --> 00:54:27.559
of like you'd see in you know, Belfaster in England

982
00:54:27.559 --> 00:54:30.119
back in the nineteen seventies, nineteen eighties. I don't want

983
00:54:30.119 --> 00:54:31.480
to see that happen. I don't you want to see

984
00:54:31.480 --> 00:54:34.039
that happen. But the people of the left of got

985
00:54:34.079 --> 00:54:35.760
to get their people inder control and then to calm

986
00:54:35.800 --> 00:54:38.320
down or it may end up going in that direction.

987
00:54:39.039 --> 00:54:41.960
Well, you remember in the Civil War the North had

988
00:54:42.000 --> 00:54:45.920
advantage over the South. There were advantages, and I believe

989
00:54:45.960 --> 00:54:48.880
that if a civil war was to break out, there

990
00:54:48.880 --> 00:54:51.880
are some distinct advantages that the right has over the

991
00:54:51.960 --> 00:54:55.039
left when it comes to firepower and other things that

992
00:54:55.159 --> 00:54:58.280
could create a lot of damage in carnage. So you're

993
00:54:58.320 --> 00:55:01.159
exactly right. We don't want to even think about opening

994
00:55:01.199 --> 00:55:04.880
up that box. But I'll tell you can only push

995
00:55:04.960 --> 00:55:07.639
so far, and you know you're going to start getting

996
00:55:07.639 --> 00:55:08.159
no reaction.

997
00:55:09.679 --> 00:55:12.840
Yeah, well, you know, I think it's amazing. Look at

998
00:55:12.880 --> 00:55:17.159
the contrast between what happened after George Floyd was killed

999
00:55:17.280 --> 00:55:19.719
and what happened after Charlie Kirk was killed. George Floyd

1000
00:55:19.800 --> 00:55:21.800
was killed. Within a couple of days, the entire country's

1001
00:55:21.800 --> 00:55:25.320
on fire. We had an entire police station burned to

1002
00:55:25.360 --> 00:55:29.519
the ground. We had stores looted, We had stores also

1003
00:55:29.559 --> 00:55:32.719
burned to the ground. You saw may recall Minneapolis drug store,

1004
00:55:32.719 --> 00:55:35.599
liquor store, all these other places destroyed. There was actually

1005
00:55:35.679 --> 00:55:40.519
a building under construction, low income housing under construction in

1006
00:55:40.559 --> 00:55:42.480
Minneapolis that was burned to the ground. So thank you

1007
00:55:42.559 --> 00:55:45.079
very much. You burned down housing for poor people, many

1008
00:55:45.079 --> 00:55:48.320
of them probably black, nice nice work lefties. And all

1009
00:55:48.400 --> 00:55:50.960
that chaos and carnage coast to coast that went on

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00:55:51.000 --> 00:55:53.320
the Summer of love that won on for really for weeks,

1011
00:55:53.320 --> 00:55:55.880
if not months, and again I think dozens of people killed.

1012
00:55:56.639 --> 00:55:59.039
It's been about a week since Charlie Kirk was assassinated,

1013
00:55:59.320 --> 00:56:01.159
and I've not I've seen one person on the right

1014
00:56:02.039 --> 00:56:06.199
light a match, throw a rock, break a window, steal

1015
00:56:06.199 --> 00:56:09.320
a tube of toothpaste. I mean, it's been pretty much

1016
00:56:09.599 --> 00:56:12.599
candlelight vigils. It's been people singing of a Maria as

1017
00:56:12.599 --> 00:56:15.119
the New York and Republican Club did. I attended a vigil.

1018
00:56:15.280 --> 00:56:18.280
There's the Friday after Charlie Kirk was killed in the

1019
00:56:18.320 --> 00:56:23.400
Madison Park Madison Park in Manhattan. Pretty much speeches, prayers,

1020
00:56:23.599 --> 00:56:26.280
lit candles, and singing of songs. We also sang the

1021
00:56:26.280 --> 00:56:29.000
Star Spangled banner. That's what you've seen. On the right.

1022
00:56:29.519 --> 00:56:32.960
There's been no writing, no bloodshed, nobody's had a cuticle

1023
00:56:33.079 --> 00:56:35.039
moved out of place, nobody's lost so much as a

1024
00:56:35.079 --> 00:56:37.880
welcome mat outside of his property. This is how the

1025
00:56:37.960 --> 00:56:40.039
right response things. And you look at the left again.

1026
00:56:40.119 --> 00:56:42.960
This is in Los Angeles after the ice raids, going

1027
00:56:43.000 --> 00:56:47.960
after Leland alien criminals. You had people getting rocks being

1028
00:56:47.960 --> 00:56:53.639
thrown at ice vehicles. I had those Weaimo self driving cars,

1029
00:56:53.639 --> 00:56:56.239
three of them set on fire in downtown LA. People

1030
00:56:56.239 --> 00:56:59.079
going down onto the Hollywood Freeway that goes right through

1031
00:56:59.119 --> 00:57:05.199
there through downtown, locking traffic. Attacks on the ice offices

1032
00:57:05.800 --> 00:57:08.679
in LA. There was an attack on an ice facility

1033
00:57:08.719 --> 00:57:10.360
here in a New Jersey across from where I am

1034
00:57:10.360 --> 00:57:12.559
in New York. A congressoman got in trouble for that.

1035
00:57:12.599 --> 00:57:16.960
She's been indicted for attacking physically attacking ice agents. So

1036
00:57:17.000 --> 00:57:19.599
again you see, and over and over the left responds

1037
00:57:20.039 --> 00:57:23.760
with violence and the right response basically with candlelight, vigils,

1038
00:57:24.320 --> 00:57:28.360
singing of patriotic songs, prayers and speeches. And the contrast

1039
00:57:28.440 --> 00:57:30.679
is so stark, and yet you here people left say, oh,

1040
00:57:30.679 --> 00:57:32.519
both sides do it, both sides do it, and that

1041
00:57:32.880 --> 00:57:34.199
largely is utterly nonsense.

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I'm with you. De Roy Murdoch, the Manhattan based Fox

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Use contributor. Deroy is always appreciated. Thank you, take care,

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have a great dat you as well, Bill, Thank you well.

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Good morning, Good to have you with us. Bill Martinez here.

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Just about six minutes halfter the top of the hour

1082
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at ours, Tax Policy Director Mike Palace is with us.

1083
01:00:02.719 --> 01:00:02.800
Now.

1084
01:00:02.880 --> 01:00:03.559
Hey, Mike, how.

1085
01:00:03.480 --> 01:00:05.400
Are you do well? Bill? Thanks for having me on.

1086
01:00:05.920 --> 01:00:08.599
Hey, great to have you here. Well, I'll tell you

1087
01:00:09.639 --> 01:00:12.639
the lines are being drawn up, the wagons are circling

1088
01:00:13.000 --> 01:00:18.039
and Senate Democrats. I think Schumer's trying to save something,

1089
01:00:18.119 --> 01:00:20.880
something of his legacy, I guess on his way out,

1090
01:00:21.280 --> 01:00:24.159
and he is being as stubborn as the day is long.

1091
01:00:23.960 --> 01:00:26.679
Right absolutely, And I think what you're seeing here right

1092
01:00:26.679 --> 01:00:30.400
now is Democrats and Democrat leadership. They're genuinely afraid of

1093
01:00:30.440 --> 01:00:33.039
their beach right now because they are so wild up,

1094
01:00:33.079 --> 01:00:35.400
demanding so much, and all they want to do is

1095
01:00:35.440 --> 01:00:36.400
fight Trump on everything.

1096
01:00:36.480 --> 01:00:36.840
Right now.

1097
01:00:37.239 --> 01:00:40.239
The policy doesn't even seem to be a question in Washington,

1098
01:00:40.320 --> 01:00:42.840
DC right now. It's just the Democrats have to be

1099
01:00:42.880 --> 01:00:45.960
seen as fighting to appease their base, and they're afraid

1100
01:00:46.000 --> 01:00:48.039
of disappointing them and afraid of the consequences.

1101
01:00:48.639 --> 01:00:51.239
Well, it's so amazing because the Democrats, if you remember,

1102
01:00:51.480 --> 01:00:56.960
you know, we're just so adamant about a peaceful transition

1103
01:00:57.320 --> 01:01:00.639
from one administration to the next, right heard about it

1104
01:01:00.760 --> 01:01:06.239
during the Obama years and then post you know, post

1105
01:01:06.880 --> 01:01:09.360
Trump and even going back to the Bush days too,

1106
01:01:09.480 --> 01:01:13.519
you know, during that transition between the Clintons and George W.

1107
01:01:14.880 --> 01:01:18.360
But it's just like everything that they say is just

1108
01:01:19.760 --> 01:01:22.159
you know, it's just a projection of the very things

1109
01:01:22.360 --> 01:01:25.280
that they themselves are doing. I mean, how do you

1110
01:01:25.360 --> 01:01:28.440
trust these people? I mean they just flat out lie

1111
01:01:28.639 --> 01:01:30.880
and doing everything. I mean, look at here we are.

1112
01:01:31.000 --> 01:01:34.039
We're not even the first year of the Trump administration,

1113
01:01:34.440 --> 01:01:37.000
and if you look at all the resistance and how

1114
01:01:37.000 --> 01:01:39.880
they've slow walked everything. I mean, Trump doesn't even have

1115
01:01:39.960 --> 01:01:44.239
his entire staff approved yet because Schumer's doing everything to

1116
01:01:45.320 --> 01:01:48.960
block you know, Donald Trump's agenda, all in the spirit

1117
01:01:49.119 --> 01:01:54.760
of you know, I guess politics, I guess yeah.

1118
01:01:54.800 --> 01:01:57.119
And it's really frustrating. That's frustrating to the American people.

1119
01:01:57.599 --> 01:02:01.800
We have Democrats playing in scene partisan politics like it's

1120
01:02:01.800 --> 01:02:04.559
a blood sport. At the same time, we have voters

1121
01:02:04.639 --> 01:02:07.199
screaming from the top of their lungs. The top issue

1122
01:02:07.239 --> 01:02:09.199
they care about right now is the cost of living

1123
01:02:09.239 --> 01:02:13.000
in the economy exactly have no plan for They've blocked

1124
01:02:13.000 --> 01:02:16.920
the Trump agenda to enact it. So every Democrat opposing

1125
01:02:17.000 --> 01:02:20.239
tax increases, I'm opposing letting you keep more of your

1126
01:02:20.320 --> 01:02:23.840
own money while inflation than the cost of living are

1127
01:02:23.880 --> 01:02:26.679
the number one problem in the country for voters, you know,

1128
01:02:26.840 --> 01:02:31.960
talking Trump administration's appointees from taking actions, from disallowing them

1129
01:02:32.000 --> 01:02:35.840
to govern properly. It's incredibly frustrating. They've become the hell

1130
01:02:35.880 --> 01:02:36.360
No party.

1131
01:02:36.840 --> 01:02:39.719
Yeah, exactly, so between them and then you've got activist

1132
01:02:39.840 --> 01:02:44.320
judges and of course you know the media outlets holding

1133
01:02:44.360 --> 01:02:47.199
true to their DNA that are going to do everything

1134
01:02:47.239 --> 01:02:49.920
they can to resist. But meanwhile, look at Donald Trump

1135
01:02:49.920 --> 01:02:52.559
has a country to save, and we trusted that he

1136
01:02:52.559 --> 01:02:55.840
would be the one to do it. And on the

1137
01:02:55.840 --> 01:02:58.920
face of it all, Mike, all indications are you know,

1138
01:02:59.039 --> 01:03:03.800
our vote was and was well founded and well assigned.

1139
01:03:04.400 --> 01:03:06.800
The problem is is that we're just not getting the cooperation.

1140
01:03:06.920 --> 01:03:09.320
And my question to Democrats to say, what have you

1141
01:03:09.480 --> 01:03:12.280
done for the economy. Don't tell me you hate Trump.

1142
01:03:12.719 --> 01:03:15.280
That's not doing anything right.

1143
01:03:15.880 --> 01:03:17.880
And this is on full display right now in Washington,

1144
01:03:17.960 --> 01:03:21.920
d C. On September thirtieth, government funding is set to expire.

1145
01:03:22.440 --> 01:03:23.559
If they do not pass a.

1146
01:03:23.480 --> 01:03:25.840
Bill funding the government by then, we will see a

1147
01:03:25.880 --> 01:03:29.480
government shut down. Schumer and Trump's first term decided to

1148
01:03:29.480 --> 01:03:33.599
shut the government down for thirty five days. Received no

1149
01:03:33.639 --> 01:03:37.800
concessions from the Trump administration. It was a completely wasted exercise.

1150
01:03:38.239 --> 01:03:42.039
They see damned on repeating that now again. They put

1151
01:03:42.039 --> 01:03:44.440
out their list of demands. And to keep in mind

1152
01:03:44.480 --> 01:03:47.159
what Republicans have offered on the table, what House Republicans

1153
01:03:47.559 --> 01:03:50.840
are expected to pass likely tomorrow will be essentially a

1154
01:03:50.880 --> 01:03:54.719
seven week extension of current spending levels. That's something Democrats

1155
01:03:54.719 --> 01:03:58.000
normally jump at. Instead, what we've seen is a list

1156
01:03:58.039 --> 01:04:01.840
of demands from Chuck Schumer yesterday that include We're going

1157
01:04:01.880 --> 01:04:04.679
to completely roll back all of the Medicaid reforms that

1158
01:04:04.719 --> 01:04:07.360
Republicans and Trump just signed into law, which is essentially

1159
01:04:07.400 --> 01:04:10.159
a plan to hold your breath until you turn blue,

1160
01:04:10.559 --> 01:04:16.000
right exactly. Restoration of taxpayer funding to NPR, for example,

1161
01:04:16.039 --> 01:04:18.159
was in the top of their list of demands, and

1162
01:04:18.159 --> 01:04:21.519
the same thing to ask that taxpayers subsidize left wing

1163
01:04:21.519 --> 01:04:23.960
messaging coming out of the media. And then of course

1164
01:04:23.960 --> 01:04:25.880
they want to see what they told us was a

1165
01:04:25.920 --> 01:04:30.480
COVID emergency temporary policy, half a trillion dollar expansion of

1166
01:04:30.480 --> 01:04:34.159
Obamacare subsidies. This isn't a reasonable list of demands. This

1167
01:04:34.280 --> 01:04:37.880
is them positioning themselves to shut the government down. It's

1168
01:04:37.920 --> 01:04:41.480
incredibly frustrating, it's unseerious, and it's taxpayers and the American

1169
01:04:41.480 --> 01:04:42.519
people who are going to suffer.

1170
01:04:43.039 --> 01:04:45.840
Well, help me understand, if the economy is the number

1171
01:04:45.880 --> 01:04:49.440
one issue for the American voter, how does any of

1172
01:04:49.480 --> 01:04:52.559
this relate to advancing the economy? Missing?

1173
01:04:54.159 --> 01:04:56.400
And you would think, right, what we're talking about here,

1174
01:04:56.480 --> 01:04:59.519
the people who are going to be not receiving paychecks

1175
01:04:59.559 --> 01:05:03.199
will be govern employees ninety federal government employees, ninety nine

1176
01:05:03.199 --> 01:05:07.400
percent of which are Democrat voters, their own constituents. They're

1177
01:05:07.400 --> 01:05:09.760
going to be forcing into a shutdown. But again, it's

1178
01:05:09.800 --> 01:05:12.559
just to appeal to their radical base, to show that

1179
01:05:12.599 --> 01:05:15.599
they're fighting Trump at any means necessary. They're willing to

1180
01:05:15.639 --> 01:05:17.920
do this, and I think the sad thing is you'll

1181
01:05:17.920 --> 01:05:20.519
see them a month from now. The Trump Administration's not

1182
01:05:20.599 --> 01:05:22.960
going to cave on this. They have no reason to. Yeah,

1183
01:05:23.000 --> 01:05:24.239
it's better for you.

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After all you did for the big beautiful bill getting

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that path, Why would you surrender that?

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elects election and get more Republicans in office. There was

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no path forward to doing that. It was insane to

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think Barack Obama would repeal Obamacare. He had to who

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the president was exactly in the same way right now, Democrats,

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there is no path forward. Trump is not going to

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overturn his signature legislation. It's great policy. He'd be wrong

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to do that. And instead of what this is about

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is Chuck Schumer and Democrat leadership are afraid of their

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own base.

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They need to be seen fighting.

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Chuck Schumer is calculating that it's better to pick a

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fight and lose it than to not pick the fight right.

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Well, that's what it came down to, because that's what

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they were most upset with him before. It was like, hey,

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you didn't fight hard enough. We didn't see any blood

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there in the well of the Senate, and we want

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to see some blood, whether it's yours, theirs, or combined whatever.

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But still, you know, how is that How does that

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make for good policy and something that benefits the American

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people when the American people just want to get you know,

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our country moving again, you know, and get these things

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that have been inhibiting the economy. I mean, Donald Trump

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has done everything he can, you know, too slow, pal,

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you know, finally gave us a quoter point. I was

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hoping it would be a little bit more aggressive, but

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silly me. I mean, that wouldn't make too much sense

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if he did something that would be reasonable, that would

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help advance the economy. Because right now, one of the

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big stubborn issues is still in front of us, and

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that happens to be you know, home sales. Well it,

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you know, and I've been saying over and over again, Mike,

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that that whole segment is constipated right now. You know,

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you've got to get it flowing, and the only way

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to get it flowing is to get those rates down.

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That would encourage people again for home sales and home

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buyership as opposed to where it is right now. It

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can't stay where it is stagnant and our economy move forward.

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This is a big anchor, and I think too heavy

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an anchor for us to really be able to move

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the economy in the direction that Trump is all set

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it up. It's all teed up right now. And if

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you get a couple of these inhibitors out of the way,

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oh Katie by the door.

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Right, absolutely right, and that it's back to the cost

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of living. Your absolutely right to nail housing as a

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top concern right now. We did have finally some welcome

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news coming out of the Fed yesterday with the first

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rate cut we've seen in a very long time half

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of a percentage a quarter of a percentage point. I

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hate when they say basis points. I think that's language

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designed to trick people and to confid.

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Well though those are hey, hey, those are those e

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congrats you know that paid a lot of money for

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got to make it sound fancy.

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Right, exactly right.

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So we did see some welcome news of the FED,

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but it's a bit of a mismixed bag because what

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they're doing that for is concern with the labor market. Now,

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we had again these numbers come out of the Bureau

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Labor Statistics, over nine hundred thousand dollars nine hundred thousand jobs. Correction,

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again addressing Trump's concern, which he's clearly right to have addressed.

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Now with the inaccuracy coming out of our jobs report.

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Numbers exactly, Mike, we hold on. We gotta go to

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quick break. Let's pick it up on the other side.

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Hey, we're back with you. Thanks for hanging in there

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with us. I'm Bill martinez'smke Pallas, the atr TEX policy director. Yeah,

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it was interesting that you know, nine hundred thousand jobs,

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you know, somehow vapored. I don't blame Trump for being upset.

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Anybody that's had anything to do with numbers and reporting,

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you know, whether it's a stock market firm or anything

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like that. Managers lose their jobs for not hitting their numbers.

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Even worse yet, is if you're not going to hit

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your number and you don't tell your boss, I mean,

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you know, they'll they'll put you on a pike, you know,

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on your way out the door. You know, that's unacceptable.

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And of course we know that these numbers, and I

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don't know the whole backstory. Who knows. Maybe the director said, well,

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look at those numbers were already out there, they were

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previously announced. This was under Biden's term, and most of

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these months, I think there's only one month that involves

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Donald Trump. Most of it is, you know, Biden. And

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so maybe somehow she convoluted and said, well, you know,

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we already announced those numbers. So I don't know why

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it was a big surprise, but remember when they announced

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it before it was a million, it was over a

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million jobs. And it's like all that stuff influenced our economy.

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It influenced the cost of living, affordability and everything all

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brought to you by the Democrats and a FED that

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was carrying the water for the dead. It's hard not

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to say they weren't carrying the water for them, Mike.

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That's exactly right.

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And if you look at it, even if you don't

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want to jump into the argument of you know, they

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were cooking the books for Biden, where there was political

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gamesmanship going on. You had an eight hundred thousand job

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correction in March of an election year, nine hundred thousand. Now,

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no one is out there arguing that Bureau Labor Statistics

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is doing a good job. But this is this is

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gets back into the reforms some administration has tried to implement.

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Right now, we have Senate Democrats holding up Trump's nominee

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to lead the Bureau Labor Statistics E. G. Antoni, a

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well respected economist. He should be confirmed. He should be

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in there leading the reforms to get us more accurate

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job numbers. Instead we have Democrats blocking that effort, and

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there's no reason why other than they're playing political games.

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Mike. Is this all part of the DEI hangover? I mean,

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you know, I know that Trump has made a concerted

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effort from day one to get DEI rooted out. But man,

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I'll tell you they're so so ingrained in our bureaucracy,

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and DEI and mediocrity seem to be synonymous.

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I think you nail the mediocrity, and I think one

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we can't ignore the political element of DEI too, because

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I think when Democrats here DEI, what they're hearing is

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they're putting people in positions of power that are on

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their team. So I think you get this as old

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school politics in the sense where it's you're compromising people

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who have the ability to do the job for political favors,

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for partisanship reasons. And I think you're seeing that across government,

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a failure of government to do its basic functions, which

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is of course also an element of expanding the government

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and asking the government to do too much beyond its

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core capabilities. This is what the trumpministration's focus on deregulation

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or form of government to get things working again.

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You know, it's one thing to have people there to

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do your partisan bidding, but it's another thing to have

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people there who do your partisan bidding and are not

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really good.

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That's right, And I guess in some circumstances.

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We should be thankful that they're not very good because

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they're not able to implement the progressive policies are seeking

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to do so. Again, limiting the Biden administration to just

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one term was crucial here. I can't imagine where the

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economy would be right now if we still had these

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people running the show, what they'd be doing at the.

1419
01:17:11.279 --> 01:17:13.359
Bureau Labor Statistics.

1420
01:17:13.479 --> 01:17:17.399
But just as a small example of this, but we're

1421
01:17:17.399 --> 01:17:19.920
finally getting the country I think back on track now.

1422
01:17:20.399 --> 01:17:22.520
A lot of the tax policy.

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01:17:22.600 --> 01:17:24.840
Set to kick in the end of this year the

1424
01:17:24.840 --> 01:17:28.800
beginning of next year, four Households for Working Families, for

1425
01:17:28.880 --> 01:17:34.239
small businesses, deregulatory efforts of the Trump administration, everything top

1426
01:17:34.279 --> 01:17:36.920
to bottom focused on addressing the cost of living for

1427
01:17:36.920 --> 01:17:37.840
American families.

1428
01:17:38.439 --> 01:17:41.760
Well, people have to understand that to root out incompetency

1429
01:17:42.479 --> 01:17:45.199
is a full time job. It's not going to happen overnight.

1430
01:17:45.279 --> 01:17:48.800
I mean, these levels of incompetency have been growing over

1431
01:17:48.840 --> 01:17:52.000
the decades, go back to the Obama years, even before that,

1432
01:17:52.079 --> 01:17:56.920
because it became so partisan and we know the government

1433
01:17:57.039 --> 01:18:00.680
union is so aggressive that they've promoted to this kind

1434
01:18:00.680 --> 01:18:04.560
of level of mediocrity and as you say, we can

1435
01:18:04.600 --> 01:18:07.520
be thankful that they're not all that competent. I mean,

1436
01:18:07.680 --> 01:18:11.079
even demonstrated in the FBI when they can't even get

1437
01:18:11.159 --> 01:18:13.920
rid of evidence correctly, right, they just leave it in

1438
01:18:13.920 --> 01:18:17.359
a burn back, in a closet back somewhere, And I

1439
01:18:17.359 --> 01:18:20.760
imagine Hillary and maybe others are freaking out, going, you

1440
01:18:20.800 --> 01:18:23.600
know what other burnback didn't get done, you know, get

1441
01:18:23.600 --> 01:18:26.840
cooked or whatever. You know, you know what, skeleton's going

1442
01:18:26.880 --> 01:18:29.520
to fall out of the closet with mine and Bill's

1443
01:18:29.560 --> 01:18:30.279
name all over it.

1444
01:18:30.880 --> 01:18:33.079
Hillary Clinton sitting there saying, if I had been president,

1445
01:18:33.079 --> 01:18:34.920
I would have been able to hide competently all of

1446
01:18:34.920 --> 01:18:35.880
my corruption.

1447
01:18:36.039 --> 01:18:39.279
Right exactly. Well, you know she was so I tell you,

1448
01:18:39.279 --> 01:18:42.279
it's amazing to me how bold she was, Mike. I

1449
01:18:42.319 --> 01:18:46.800
mean she destroyed evidence even you know, I mean, as

1450
01:18:46.840 --> 01:18:50.000
the case is being laid out. If you remember, by

1451
01:18:50.039 --> 01:18:54.279
then FBI director James Comy, you're going, oh my god,

1452
01:18:54.279 --> 01:18:57.319
they're gonna they're actually going to indict her. And he

1453
01:18:57.439 --> 01:18:59.720
takes us right up to the edge of the cliff

1454
01:18:59.760 --> 01:19:04.560
and go, eh, it's not gonna happen. And here she is.

1455
01:19:04.960 --> 01:19:09.520
She takes a hammer to evidence, she destroys evidence, and

1456
01:19:09.640 --> 01:19:13.000
gets away with this. I mean, it's like, Lord, have

1457
01:19:13.119 --> 01:19:19.319
mercy is I mean, it is totally befuddling. But this

1458
01:19:19.399 --> 01:19:22.159
is why the rule of law has been so compromised

1459
01:19:22.479 --> 01:19:26.479
and the American citizen is so confused about their government.

1460
01:19:26.680 --> 01:19:28.560
And Trump is saying, hey, look at I'm just trying

1461
01:19:28.600 --> 01:19:31.119
to get it back to standard. Let's figure out. You know,

1462
01:19:31.199 --> 01:19:35.239
we need law and order. We need to follow the constitution.

1463
01:19:35.439 --> 01:19:38.800
Oh yes, by the way, because traditionally we know that

1464
01:19:38.880 --> 01:19:42.199
when we follow the Constitution, it goes better for America

1465
01:19:42.279 --> 01:19:43.720
and it's citizens, doesn't it.

1466
01:19:44.359 --> 01:19:46.239
Yeah, absolutely, And we talk about, right, how much does

1467
01:19:46.239 --> 01:19:50.520
the other side focus on norms? They talk about trumping

1468
01:19:50.520 --> 01:19:52.880
and norm breaker all the time. But again, what we're

1469
01:19:52.880 --> 01:19:55.119
living in this moment right now, we're coming out of

1470
01:19:55.119 --> 01:19:57.680
the wake of very serious concerns of political violence in

1471
01:19:57.720 --> 01:19:59.439
the wake of Charlie Kirks's assassination.

1472
01:20:00.239 --> 01:20:02.119
Uh, this is an opportunity.

1473
01:20:01.680 --> 01:20:03.880
For everyone across the board to take the rhetoric down

1474
01:20:04.000 --> 01:20:07.720
a notch, and instead we're walking into a government shutdown

1475
01:20:08.159 --> 01:20:11.199
for really unclear reasons. And what seems to be the

1476
01:20:11.199 --> 01:20:14.439
Democrat plan is they're going to say because these what

1477
01:20:14.479 --> 01:20:18.680
we admitted at the time were temporary increase in Obamacare subsidies.

1478
01:20:19.079 --> 01:20:20.680
They're going to now scream at the top of their

1479
01:20:20.720 --> 01:20:24.039
LUNs that Republicans are killing people because they're letting these

1480
01:20:24.079 --> 01:20:25.359
healthcare subsidies expire.

1481
01:20:25.840 --> 01:20:26.000
Uh.

1482
01:20:26.119 --> 01:20:27.960
This is this is dangerous rhetoric.

1483
01:20:28.279 --> 01:20:31.279
We've seen The shooting of Steve's police before was directly

1484
01:20:31.359 --> 01:20:36.119
over the shooter's concerns with rising prices of healthcare, which

1485
01:20:36.159 --> 01:20:38.840
the Republicans were killing people. And they're gonna tote up

1486
01:20:38.840 --> 01:20:41.680
this rhetoric again now in an irresponsible way and lying

1487
01:20:41.720 --> 01:20:44.439
about the own policy they put in place.

1488
01:20:45.079 --> 01:20:48.279
Yeah, exactly, Well, that's that's their plan. That's all they

1489
01:20:48.720 --> 01:20:51.560
know to do. And unfortunately you've got too many people.

1490
01:20:51.640 --> 01:20:53.159
I mean, I don't know if you saw this, uh

1491
01:20:53.680 --> 01:20:57.520
uh this you know polling evidence that came out here

1492
01:20:57.520 --> 01:21:00.800
just a couple of days ago about political violence, and

1493
01:21:00.840 --> 01:21:05.600
you drew reference to that five out of ten left

1494
01:21:05.600 --> 01:21:11.239
wingers approve of political violence. Okay, nine out of ten

1495
01:21:11.319 --> 01:21:16.840
conservatives reject political violence. So this tells you. And we're

1496
01:21:16.840 --> 01:21:20.159
gonna be talking with doctor John Lot later on, who

1497
01:21:20.199 --> 01:21:22.880
is an analyst on all these numbers that come out,

1498
01:21:22.920 --> 01:21:26.159
because the narrative is right now is that there's more

1499
01:21:26.680 --> 01:21:30.199
violence coming from the right than the left. And you're going, wait,

1500
01:21:31.560 --> 01:21:35.119
help me. I don't. I can't connect those numbers. But

1501
01:21:35.239 --> 01:21:37.960
I trust John lot and the numbers that he brings

1502
01:21:38.000 --> 01:21:40.880
forth to give us, you know, clarity on it, because

1503
01:21:41.199 --> 01:21:45.039
we're being gas lit on this situation because time and

1504
01:21:45.079 --> 01:21:48.640
again it has been the left. I don't recall on

1505
01:21:48.720 --> 01:21:50.800
the right anybody that you can sit there, but of

1506
01:21:50.800 --> 01:21:53.880
course you know their their go to deal is oh,

1507
01:21:53.960 --> 01:21:57.520
January sixth, January sixth, nobody had a gun there. The

1508
01:21:57.560 --> 01:22:00.000
only person had a gun was a crazy you know,

1509
01:22:00.159 --> 01:22:03.159
Capitol police officer who shot in a crowd, which is

1510
01:22:03.359 --> 01:22:06.359
you know, if any other police officer would have shot

1511
01:22:06.399 --> 01:22:09.119
in a crowd like that, they called that a bad shoot.

1512
01:22:09.319 --> 01:22:11.199
That guy would have been suspended for the rest of

1513
01:22:11.239 --> 01:22:13.600
his life. He'd still be on time out. No what

1514
01:22:13.640 --> 01:22:15.600
they did, they awarded him and turned him into a

1515
01:22:15.640 --> 01:22:19.680
hero for killing a defenseless woman that was in the

1516
01:22:19.680 --> 01:22:22.479
frame of a door. That she wasn't going to go anywhere,

1517
01:22:22.479 --> 01:22:23.560
so you shoot her dead.

1518
01:22:24.840 --> 01:22:26.840
And I think we should point out too that the

1519
01:22:27.319 --> 01:22:30.359
increase of political violence on the left, and it has

1520
01:22:30.399 --> 01:22:33.159
been a growing concern for a very long time, going

1521
01:22:33.199 --> 01:22:38.439
back to twenty fourteen. Twenty fifteen, conservatives started worrying, pointing

1522
01:22:38.439 --> 01:22:41.359
out the terms like micro aggressions on campus. That was

1523
01:22:41.399 --> 01:22:47.239
the deliberate confusion of speech with violence. And right before

1524
01:22:47.279 --> 01:22:49.600
the day before Charlie Kirk was shot, a new poll

1525
01:22:49.640 --> 01:22:53.399
came out showing that thirty four percent of self described

1526
01:22:53.399 --> 01:22:56.199
Democrats on college campuses acquitted.

1527
01:22:57.119 --> 01:22:57.720
I said it was.

1528
01:22:58.000 --> 01:23:01.520
Okay to meet violence to his free speech if that

1529
01:23:01.600 --> 01:23:05.000
person was saying something they considered dangerous. That's a very

1530
01:23:05.159 --> 01:23:08.359
dangerous thought to have thirty four percent. I think we

1531
01:23:08.439 --> 01:23:11.640
have both a generational problem here and also an ideological

1532
01:23:11.640 --> 01:23:14.600
problem aligned with the left. But this is something conservatives

1533
01:23:14.760 --> 01:23:17.279
I've been selling the alarma on college campuses for in

1534
01:23:17.279 --> 01:23:18.640
the past decade.

1535
01:23:19.199 --> 01:23:20.640
At least mocked us for it.

1536
01:23:20.800 --> 01:23:23.239
Yeah, at least you know this rhetoric of you know,

1537
01:23:23.279 --> 01:23:27.960
he's a Nazi and he's a dictator, and he's Hitler incarnate,

1538
01:23:28.039 --> 01:23:31.119
and you know one other adjective or another to that end,

1539
01:23:31.800 --> 01:23:34.439
why not why not be justified because you don't want

1540
01:23:34.479 --> 01:23:36.359
Hitler to live. We don't want Hitler back again.

1541
01:23:36.439 --> 01:23:40.479
Right, And with the Luigi Mangione shooting, when he killed

1542
01:23:40.479 --> 01:23:44.359
he CEO, and this was a failure of several prominent

1543
01:23:44.399 --> 01:23:49.399
Democrats leadership. I'm thinking people like Alexandria Casio Cortes, Elizabeth Warren,

1544
01:23:50.039 --> 01:23:53.079
Chris Murphy who came out and said, of course this

1545
01:23:53.239 --> 01:23:56.079
was wrong, but it was a very big butt. We

1546
01:23:56.159 --> 01:23:58.720
have to understand where he's coming from, the anger thinking

1547
01:23:58.800 --> 01:23:59.800
that they can harness that.

1548
01:24:00.239 --> 01:24:02.520
For political reasons. They're absolutely wrong to think.

1549
01:24:02.399 --> 01:24:07.680
That these people, they're they're completely pinned against Western values,

1550
01:24:07.720 --> 01:24:10.760
American values. Democrats should not see them as allies or

1551
01:24:10.800 --> 01:24:11.880
potential builders to win.

1552
01:24:11.760 --> 01:24:15.079
Them over well, and Conservatives need to take a stand

1553
01:24:15.159 --> 01:24:18.439
like never before. Mike, I mean, this is unacceptable even

1554
01:24:18.520 --> 01:24:21.159
you know, whatever it takes in order to take a stand,

1555
01:24:21.159 --> 01:24:23.159
and I'm when I say whatever it takes, I'm not

1556
01:24:23.239 --> 01:24:25.760
talking civil war here, but if we don't stop this,

1557
01:24:25.880 --> 01:24:28.479
we're going to end up in a civil war, and

1558
01:24:28.520 --> 01:24:31.079
it's going to be ugly. Because last time I checked,

1559
01:24:31.159 --> 01:24:35.039
I mean, it was really hysterical. What was Jasmine Crockett said,

1560
01:24:35.840 --> 01:24:37.880
people on the left, and you know, these people they

1561
01:24:37.880 --> 01:24:40.800
don't know how to shoot straight, so you know, because

1562
01:24:40.800 --> 01:24:43.800
they didn't, they weren't raised with guns, so you know

1563
01:24:44.119 --> 01:24:46.600
the chances of them, you know, being a good shooter

1564
01:24:47.199 --> 01:24:50.680
is uh, just determined by their birthright. I mean, it

1565
01:24:50.760 --> 01:24:53.920
was the most ridiculous statement that I've ever heard. You

1566
01:24:54.000 --> 01:24:56.359
know that you know that they just can't shoot straight

1567
01:24:56.399 --> 01:24:58.680
because you know they didn't they weren't raised with guns.

1568
01:24:59.239 --> 01:25:01.520
And of course we should remember what Charlie Kirk what

1569
01:25:01.680 --> 01:25:03.960
he would go to these campuses and say, it's the

1570
01:25:04.000 --> 01:25:07.000
importance of free speech, the importance of debate to have

1571
01:25:07.039 --> 01:25:11.000
these political disagreements in conversation, because that's what prevents shooting

1572
01:25:11.000 --> 01:25:13.239
from happening. So we need to make sure we're dedicated

1573
01:25:13.239 --> 01:25:16.159
to that free speech that we're dedicated to continuing debate.

1574
01:25:16.880 --> 01:25:20.319
And I think everyone, hopefully Democrats will start to take

1575
01:25:20.560 --> 01:25:21.800
the tone down a bit.

1576
01:25:22.199 --> 01:25:26.279
Yeah, well, I have maintained it intellectualizes the masses. We

1577
01:25:26.319 --> 01:25:29.880
don't want to be dumb, okay, you know, squelching free

1578
01:25:29.920 --> 01:25:34.239
speech dumbs you down. We are smarter when we have

1579
01:25:34.319 --> 01:25:37.159
a conversation, especially with those that we don't particularly like

1580
01:25:37.439 --> 01:25:40.359
or we disagree with. You'd be surprised how much further

1581
01:25:40.399 --> 01:25:44.159
the conversation and the solution can get if we're communicating.

1582
01:25:44.399 --> 01:25:46.359
We got to leave it there. Mike Palace is always

1583
01:25:46.359 --> 01:25:49.119
appreciate the time. Thank you for coming on. Mike is

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01:25:49.680 --> 01:25:53.000
Americans for Tax Reforms Tax Policy Director, Take care of

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Filmwork is here with doctor Ted Behar from movie Guy. Hey,

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doctor Ted, how you doing?

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01:29:04.560 --> 01:29:06.640
I'm doing well because when I look at you, I

1646
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think you're getting younger every time we talk, and I

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you know, you chase this up.

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You keep this up. I'm gonna call you every day.

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I'm getting older with all the time. I got some

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mendous pains in the back of my head and my neck.

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You know. I was in Australian and then I came

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back and I spoke, and then I went to Washington

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to meet with the head of the FCC, and then

1654
01:29:27.439 --> 01:29:28.000
I went.

1655
01:29:27.880 --> 01:29:30.319
To I came back for a day.

1656
01:29:30.399 --> 01:29:32.800
I mean, I'm getting four or five hours sleep, and

1657
01:29:32.840 --> 01:29:36.119
then went to Sacramento and spoke four times on Saturday.

1658
01:29:36.640 --> 01:29:39.079
And just when I think I'm recovering, I have to

1659
01:29:39.119 --> 01:29:39.680
talk to you.

1660
01:29:42.079 --> 01:29:43.199
Well, that builds me up.

1661
01:29:44.560 --> 01:29:44.720
There.

1662
01:29:45.359 --> 01:29:48.439
I can energize you here just a little bit before

1663
01:29:48.479 --> 01:29:52.000
we get into you know, a movie that I think

1664
01:29:52.119 --> 01:29:55.119
is going to be a needed escape. We need a

1665
01:29:55.119 --> 01:29:57.319
good movie this weekend, and you've got a good one

1666
01:29:57.359 --> 01:30:01.760
to share with us, because of course, this weekend we're

1667
01:30:01.760 --> 01:30:05.119
going to be dealing with, you know, the funeral of

1668
01:30:05.479 --> 01:30:09.199
when Charlie Kirk, and you know, this has just been

1669
01:30:09.600 --> 01:30:14.000
real heavy. And I know you as a you know,

1670
01:30:14.039 --> 01:30:18.840
as somebody who understands the cultural psychology of our country.

1671
01:30:18.920 --> 01:30:21.800
Right now, we're in trouble here.

1672
01:30:21.720 --> 01:30:25.239
Ted, Yes, we're in trouble because the news media has

1673
01:30:25.279 --> 01:30:30.000
been so vociferous and spreading false information, and I teach

1674
01:30:30.680 --> 01:30:31.279
people news.

1675
01:30:31.399 --> 01:30:33.600
I don't watch the news. I try to turn off

1676
01:30:33.600 --> 01:30:34.039
the news.

1677
01:30:34.079 --> 01:30:38.079
However, with Charlie Kirk's assassination, I started watching the news.

1678
01:30:38.119 --> 01:30:40.439
And it's built to make you afraid.

1679
01:30:40.600 --> 01:30:43.119
It's built to make you unhappy, it's built to get

1680
01:30:43.159 --> 01:30:46.039
you on edge. It's built to turn you into a

1681
01:30:46.079 --> 01:30:49.359
negative nabob. And that's what it did, and it's done

1682
01:30:49.399 --> 01:30:52.760
it with many other people. You know, everybody knew. I

1683
01:30:52.800 --> 01:30:56.560
didn't realize that everybody knew Charlie. I was at a

1684
01:30:56.640 --> 01:31:01.399
conference in Steamboat Springs, Colorado, and he was my opening act.

1685
01:31:02.600 --> 01:31:07.079
But by the way, a long time ago, Franklin Graham,

1686
01:31:07.119 --> 01:31:09.920
when he came out of riding motorcycles and being off

1687
01:31:10.000 --> 01:31:13.199
the charts came and he was my opening act. So

1688
01:31:13.239 --> 01:31:15.920
it shows you should be my opening act because this

1689
01:31:16.079 --> 01:31:18.920
kate and then you become rich and famous, and then

1690
01:31:19.800 --> 01:31:21.520
you know, he was a good friend of my son.

1691
01:31:21.600 --> 01:31:23.960
They used to text and they'd see one of my

1692
01:31:24.000 --> 01:31:26.600
sons and they'd see each other all the time, once

1693
01:31:26.640 --> 01:31:28.359
a month, and then my daughter was on.

1694
01:31:28.279 --> 01:31:33.239
His show and he was he changed radically.

1695
01:31:33.640 --> 01:31:37.399
You know, I think Rob McCoy is game a little

1696
01:31:37.760 --> 01:31:41.720
present a plaque, you know. But I think with the

1697
01:31:41.760 --> 01:31:45.119
tutoring of Rob McCoy, with his faith in Christ, he

1698
01:31:45.239 --> 01:31:49.119
became really a wonderful person. And people are all saying,

1699
01:31:49.199 --> 01:31:51.920
you know, Erica, we should pray for her. People are

1700
01:31:51.960 --> 01:31:55.000
all saying, you know, who's going to take over. We

1701
01:31:55.039 --> 01:31:57.439
don't have to worry about that. God is in charge

1702
01:31:57.920 --> 01:32:00.319
and he will raise somebody up. And if you read

1703
01:32:00.439 --> 01:32:04.119
Christian history, which I do all the time, He's always

1704
01:32:04.199 --> 01:32:06.840
raised somebody up. Just when you think that the end

1705
01:32:06.920 --> 01:32:10.239
is near, when Augustine is standing on the walls of

1706
01:32:10.319 --> 01:32:14.000
Hippo and the vandals are attacking, God raises somebody else up.

1707
01:32:14.039 --> 01:32:15.039
So don't worry about it.

1708
01:32:15.359 --> 01:32:18.359
But keep Erica in the prayers, and those two little kids,

1709
01:32:18.399 --> 01:32:20.920
because it's going to be hard for them without a.

1710
01:32:20.920 --> 01:32:25.560
Daddy, Yeah, without a doubt. And again for you know,

1711
01:32:25.600 --> 01:32:28.800
the rest of America, you know, the people that are affected.

1712
01:32:29.239 --> 01:32:31.960
And the thing that amazes me ted and looking at

1713
01:32:31.960 --> 01:32:35.760
some of this research, the acceptability of political assassinations, how

1714
01:32:35.800 --> 01:32:39.920
it's increased here recently, and it's coming mostly from the left.

1715
01:32:39.920 --> 01:32:41.439
And I hate to put it that way, but you

1716
01:32:41.520 --> 01:32:45.000
got to put it where you know, where the shoe fits.

1717
01:32:45.159 --> 01:32:47.760
You know, they're saying fifty percent of those on the

1718
01:32:47.840 --> 01:32:52.439
left feel that political assassination is acceptable. I mean, really,

1719
01:32:52.479 --> 01:32:54.880
I mean, have we become such a death culture? I mean,

1720
01:32:54.920 --> 01:32:56.760
I get it already, we deal with with all the

1721
01:32:56.800 --> 01:33:02.399
abortions we produce here in this country, but I mean,

1722
01:33:02.600 --> 01:33:04.439
this is just another one of the well.

1723
01:33:05.920 --> 01:33:08.239
I mean, there's a lot to say about this, and

1724
01:33:08.279 --> 01:33:10.000
we can spend the whole show if you wanted, we

1725
01:33:10.000 --> 01:33:14.640
could do that. But every shooting of a president, you

1726
01:33:14.680 --> 01:33:17.560
know that there are three presidents have always been from

1727
01:33:17.600 --> 01:33:21.720
the left. That's been the nature of it. Oswald was

1728
01:33:22.239 --> 01:33:26.520
you know, went to Russia and was communist. Whoever cooperated

1729
01:33:26.560 --> 01:33:30.279
with him will find out, but anyway, he was a communist,

1730
01:33:30.640 --> 01:33:34.199
you know, Teddy Roosevelt was shot by an anarchist. World

1731
01:33:34.239 --> 01:33:38.760
War One started because a left wing anarchist shot the

1732
01:33:38.760 --> 01:33:43.840
future king of Austria Hungary. World War two started because Hitler,

1733
01:33:44.479 --> 01:33:49.840
of course, had been a communist. And national socialism is socialisms.

1734
01:33:50.800 --> 01:33:54.079
It's the left, and the reason they do this is

1735
01:33:54.119 --> 01:33:56.000
because they don't have faith in God. Now I'm going

1736
01:33:56.039 --> 01:33:58.800
to say something very outlandish and you can cut it

1737
01:33:58.840 --> 01:34:02.279
out of your program. But I debate people all the time,

1738
01:34:02.800 --> 01:34:04.279
not as well as Charlie did.

1739
01:34:04.359 --> 01:34:05.960
He was a master of debate.

1740
01:34:06.319 --> 01:34:09.720
But I've debated Muslims in the University of San Francisco,

1741
01:34:09.800 --> 01:34:13.199
which is a Jesuit school. I've debated Muslims in Kiev

1742
01:34:13.560 --> 01:34:17.680
because Prime is mostly Muslim, and I've debated Muslims. And

1743
01:34:18.000 --> 01:34:21.279
you know, if you're just as an example, if you're

1744
01:34:21.319 --> 01:34:25.840
Communist or Muslim or Hindu, which are killing Christians.

1745
01:34:25.920 --> 01:34:26.920
You don't believe.

1746
01:34:27.439 --> 01:34:30.800
If you're a Communist, for instance, you believe that in

1747
01:34:30.960 --> 01:34:34.359
ontological materialism, you believe that the world is all there is.

1748
01:34:34.680 --> 01:34:37.279
So if you kill a few Ukrainians, or if you

1749
01:34:37.319 --> 01:34:41.760
assassinate somebody, it doesn't matter because they're just fertilizer for

1750
01:34:41.840 --> 01:34:45.720
the ground. But what we have as Christians and Jews

1751
01:34:46.279 --> 01:34:50.319
is we believe that God designed us that were created

1752
01:34:50.399 --> 01:34:53.880
in the image of God from Genesis one. So we

1753
01:34:54.119 --> 01:34:58.359
don't believe in assassination. We believe in prayer, We believe

1754
01:34:58.359 --> 01:35:00.359
in the power of the Holy Spirit. You know, in

1755
01:35:00.399 --> 01:35:02.760
the Koran, if you can't bring somebody to Allah, you

1756
01:35:02.880 --> 01:35:05.079
get to kill them. But we don't believe that you

1757
01:35:05.159 --> 01:35:07.720
get to kill them. So none of that works for us,

1758
01:35:08.000 --> 01:35:10.319
but it works for the other side. So the answer

1759
01:35:10.439 --> 01:35:13.680
to this problem is what you're doing. The answer is revival.

1760
01:35:14.079 --> 01:35:17.720
The answer is not guns, The answer is not being fear,

1761
01:35:18.159 --> 01:35:21.960
The answer is not you know more. The answer is revival.

1762
01:35:22.039 --> 01:35:24.680
And that's what we need. And we need revival all

1763
01:35:24.720 --> 01:35:27.079
over the world, in Russia and China everywhere.

1764
01:35:28.000 --> 01:35:32.960
Well, God willing, by his grace and mercy, this this

1765
01:35:33.000 --> 01:35:36.800
could very well ignite that, as we know from God's word,

1766
01:35:37.880 --> 01:35:41.119
you know, a seed has to die, right, the blood

1767
01:35:41.159 --> 01:35:42.880
of the martyrs, Amen.

1768
01:35:42.640 --> 01:35:43.680
Blood of the martyrs.

1769
01:35:43.760 --> 01:35:47.560
And it's already raising up thousands of people who are

1770
01:35:47.600 --> 01:35:48.279
going to church.

1771
01:35:48.840 --> 01:35:50.720
And if we talk about it and not cry, we're

1772
01:35:50.720 --> 01:35:51.640
going to have to get off.

1773
01:35:52.279 --> 01:35:54.880
Okay, all right, all right, Let's let's talk about the

1774
01:35:54.880 --> 01:35:56.880
movie that you're excited to talk about for this weekend,

1775
01:35:56.920 --> 01:35:57.600
because I think we.

1776
01:35:57.520 --> 01:35:59.039
Need this well.

1777
01:35:59.079 --> 01:36:03.960
Boo is one of the best movies about the Nazi

1778
01:36:04.079 --> 01:36:08.840
national Socialist persecution of Jews that I've ever seen. Vow

1779
01:36:09.079 --> 01:36:12.399
was actually one of my wife, who was an architect's

1780
01:36:12.399 --> 01:36:16.319
favorite artists. He was a great characture. It's a great

1781
01:36:16.399 --> 01:36:19.640
artist and work. And before World War Two, he and

1782
01:36:19.680 --> 01:36:23.119
his family because they were Jewish, got taken to a

1783
01:36:23.159 --> 01:36:27.399
Polish concentration camp. They were treated terribly, but he had

1784
01:36:27.399 --> 01:36:31.119
a wonderful sense of humor, and the commandant needed him

1785
01:36:31.479 --> 01:36:35.399
because he had such artistic ability that the commandant used

1786
01:36:35.479 --> 01:36:40.119
him to be able to create maps and things that

1787
01:36:40.159 --> 01:36:41.680
they needed for the war effort.

1788
01:36:42.039 --> 01:36:45.520
The interesting thing is that he was working with the.

1789
01:36:45.600 --> 01:36:53.159
Resistance in the concentration camp, providing passports and passes per Schindler,

1790
01:36:53.640 --> 01:36:57.199
remember Schindler's List, So he was the guy who was

1791
01:36:57.239 --> 01:37:00.840
faking those documents because he was so good good at

1792
01:37:01.000 --> 01:37:03.800
art that he could fake the documents. And the movie

1793
01:37:04.039 --> 01:37:08.800
is full of pathos, of emotion, of humor. It's probably

1794
01:37:09.159 --> 01:37:11.760
one of the best movies I've ever seen in terms

1795
01:37:11.760 --> 01:37:15.399
of being well orchestrated. Boo even gets married in the

1796
01:37:15.399 --> 01:37:19.239
concentration camp. The end of the movie is so good

1797
01:37:19.439 --> 01:37:22.800
that it just, you know, captured my heart. And I've

1798
01:37:22.840 --> 01:37:25.119
seen other people. Ben Shapiro just said it's one of

1799
01:37:25.159 --> 01:37:27.720
the great movies of all time. It's one of the

1800
01:37:27.800 --> 01:37:30.399
and the left, the right, the center are all saying

1801
01:37:30.439 --> 01:37:32.319
it's one of the So if you have anything to

1802
01:37:32.359 --> 01:37:36.880
do now, I'd say it's for older teenagers. It's not

1803
01:37:37.119 --> 01:37:41.039
for young kids. It isn't a concentration camp. There are

1804
01:37:41.039 --> 01:37:44.279
some scenes that you know that the prisoners.

1805
01:37:43.720 --> 01:37:44.479
Are being led.

1806
01:37:44.520 --> 01:37:47.479
You don't see anything, you know, naked to the gas

1807
01:37:47.520 --> 01:37:50.560
chambers and stuff like that, so you've got to watch out.

1808
01:37:50.640 --> 01:37:52.840
It's not for young kids, but I think for older

1809
01:37:52.840 --> 01:37:56.119
teenagers they've got to see this because they got to

1810
01:37:56.239 --> 01:38:01.359
understand that people have been persecuting Jews and Christians for

1811
01:38:01.520 --> 01:38:05.199
centuries and we're not the bad guys. We're the good guys.

1812
01:38:05.399 --> 01:38:08.920
And Boo is one of the great good guys in history.

1813
01:38:11.479 --> 01:38:14.000
I can't wait to see this movie. I haven't seen

1814
01:38:14.000 --> 01:38:16.039
it ted, so I'm looking forward to it, and it

1815
01:38:16.439 --> 01:38:17.880
releases this weekend.

1816
01:38:17.560 --> 01:38:21.399
Right right, And it's done one of my favorite directors

1817
01:38:21.760 --> 01:38:25.479
who's won our awards before. He won an award last

1818
01:38:25.560 --> 01:38:29.159
year for Christ and Pageant. He's done some great movies,

1819
01:38:29.680 --> 01:38:33.319
and he texted me last night that he wants to

1820
01:38:33.359 --> 01:38:35.600
talk today. So if he calls me while we're talking,

1821
01:38:35.880 --> 01:38:37.279
I'll get off and talk to him.

1822
01:38:39.800 --> 01:38:42.680
So for him, you'll give plenty of time for that's great.

1823
01:38:43.000 --> 01:38:45.520
All right, Well, check it out, check out Boo, and

1824
01:38:45.640 --> 01:38:49.880
check out the other movie reviews and cultural news that's

1825
01:38:50.159 --> 01:38:53.119
there at movieguide dot org. Doctor Ted Behar has been

1826
01:38:53.159 --> 01:38:56.800
our guest Doctor Ted, God bless you appreciate you well.

1827
01:38:56.840 --> 01:38:58.520
I think the world of your bill. Thank you for

1828
01:38:58.560 --> 01:38:59.199
putting up with me.

1829
01:38:59.359 --> 01:39:03.880
God bless you always take care my friend. Bye bye bye.

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Welcome back to America. Bill Martinez here along with Adam

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Holtz from plugged in dot com. Mister Adam, how are

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we doing?

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Oh?

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I'm great.

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How are you?

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All things considered, We're hanging in there, you know, with

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all that we're anticipating this coming weekend with general services

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for for Charlie, for charlie family and that, and it's uh,

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I'll tell you, God's grace is abounding. I know it's hard.

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I know it's hard for some people to see that,

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but you know, our hope is in God. That's what

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Charlie maintained. And yeah, any of us agreed with, you know,

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in the spirit of our faith and our personality and

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the wholeness of our humanness. That's what we hold on to,

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isn't it.

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It is what we hold on too, and I think

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that it's so important. With so many voices competing for attention,

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there's still so much stridency, there's so much hurt that

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that we are to be people of hope. And you

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and I talk about that a lot. That what we

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offer the world that the world cannot duplicate, it can't

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counterfeit is real hope and real meaning. And I think

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part of the reason we're in this place today is

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because in so many ways, our culture has abandoned those

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things and we're seeing the.

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Fruit of it.

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And I don't want to, I don't want to oversimplify

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anything with regard to to Charlie's assassination, but I do

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think it's symptomatic of a culture that in so many

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ways has lost its way. And it affected, you know,

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the person who pulled the trigger, and in a horrible way,

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and he made horrific choices, you know, And so there's

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a lot to unpack there, and obviously many of us

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01:46:00.640 --> 01:46:05.039
are are doing that. But but Charlie was a person

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of hope. That is the message, and that's what we

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want to.

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Major on well and individually. I mean, this becomes an

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individual thing. Yes, we can exercise some of this and

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in groupthink and that sort of thing, but some of

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this has to be worked out in your prayer closet

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by going to the Father and just asking God help

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help me understand what is it as much as would

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count on me. What is it that I need to

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take away from this experience. Whether it's the issue of mortality,

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whether it's the issue of my own ego, whether it's

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the issue of serving or being served. You know, I mean,

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there's all kinds of things that could come out of this.

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But God, God is sovereign, I mean, you know, and

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I think he thought about this. You know, here it

1968
01:46:50.479 --> 01:46:54.399
is President Trump by you know, micro inches they say,

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all but for a micro inch misths. You know, he'd

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be in a call often and in this particular case,

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I mean, you know, to me, the way the shot

1972
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was and it was interesting that it hit his throat.

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And I can't help but believe with the scope that

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this guy was aiming for his head. He wasn't necessarily

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heading for his throat. But why, you know, there's going

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to be something understood, maybe not this side of heaven

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and people can run analysis on it. And I know

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people are saying, well, well, why not Charlie. I mean,

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you saved you know, you saved the presidential Why couldn't

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you save Charlie. Well, but but look what happened. Look

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what's happened. You know, as the Bible says, unless the

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seed goes to.

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Them, is carried, right, And look what we've got, what

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ninety eight thousand inquiries.

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Now, yeah, since he's.

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Passing for turning point, you know, operations on campuses across

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the country.

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Yeah, I mean, I think that what has happened has

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served to further the gospel. And it's old, old saying.

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You know, the blood of the martyrs is the seed

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of the church. And I don't say that in any way,

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shape or form to sound like I'm glibly minimizing what's happened.

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And it's a tragedy of massive proportions, and one of

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you know, Charlie is the victim of ruthless hate and violence. Right,

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and yet, and yet, because we have hope, and because

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we're people of hope, it becomes something that God can redeem,

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even you know, without minimizing the horror of it.

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Right, and the thing is I mean for me especially.

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I will share this with you that you realize that

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it's not about you, you know it. You know, you've

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01:48:49.600 --> 01:48:52.159
got to take yourself out of the equation here right,

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01:48:52.359 --> 01:48:55.840
your personal desires and your will set aside. It's God's

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sovereignty and what God's going to do and what God

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is doing, you know, in and throughout all this. Uh,

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you know, I feel for you know, Charlie's family, his wife,

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the kids, his mom, you know, his dad. I even

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feel for, you know, for the assassin's parents. I mean,

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here are there, they're men, he's a man and woman

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of God, yep. And you know, for their family to

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go through this, I mean, this is this is tough

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all the way around here.

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Yeah.

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But yeah, but as you said, our hope is in

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God and we know that that look at His will

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be done. But also at the same time, people need

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to understand Christian persecution. I mean, we've always thought about

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Christian Christian persecute, all that's happening in Africa or China

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or some in distant land, and we've seen an increasing

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number of murders and persecution happening in this country.

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Yeah, well, what's the passage? I think it's in maybe

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in I think it's in Matthew twenty four or twenty five.

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Jesus is talking about, you know, the end time stuff,

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and he said, you know, time is coming when anybody

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who kills you will think they are offering a service

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to God. And I'm paraphrasing, and you know, we'll think

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that they are doing a good thing. You know, I

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don't know that that this shooter thought he was offering

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a service to God, but he certainly felt, like, you know,

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he was doing something that that he thought was good,

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even though we recognize it is horrible. And I think

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that's where we're at culturally, that there's so much lostness.

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And even in the mainstream media, response has just been

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beyond the pal as far as I'm concerned.

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You know, Yeah, but you know you talk about response,

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I mean, look at the people, even at that very moment.

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I mean, they're doing TikTok videos, you know, ding dong,

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you know, this kind of stuff and celebrating you know,

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Charlie's Charlie's murder, and that, I mean, how how uncivil.

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01:51:02.159 --> 01:51:05.239
But this is what we've we've reduced ourselves to. And

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as you said, the mainstream media, I mean Jimmy Kimmel,

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01:51:08.359 --> 01:51:12.199
he loses his job and others. I mean, we're not

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01:51:12.279 --> 01:51:16.319
talking a bunch of knuckleheads. I mean, Adam, we're talking professionals.

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01:51:16.319 --> 01:51:20.960
We're talking doctors, teachers, influencers. I mean that, you know,

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it's like, you've got to be kidding me. I mean,

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01:51:23.920 --> 01:51:26.840
are we in trouble that our culture? Again, this isn't

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01:51:26.880 --> 01:51:29.319
some third world This is the United States of America.

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01:51:29.720 --> 01:51:32.359
And the people have been so infected that they think

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01:51:32.399 --> 01:51:35.800
it's okay that this you know, this response. I mean

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01:51:36.520 --> 01:51:39.399
the other thing too that blew me away was a

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01:51:39.439 --> 01:51:41.520
survey that came out and this is just this week,

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01:51:42.039 --> 01:51:48.239
that fifty percent of left wingers approve of political violence. Yeah,

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01:51:48.279 --> 01:51:51.880
five out of ten people. That's that's nuts. And nine

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01:51:51.960 --> 01:51:56.399
out of ten conservatives, of course, reject political violence on

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01:51:56.520 --> 01:51:59.880
a space. And this argument that oh, it's on both sides,

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01:52:00.039 --> 01:52:03.920
I mean, no, that's not. That's not it's a bunch

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01:52:03.920 --> 01:52:05.479
of bunk. It is a bunch of bunk.

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01:52:05.479 --> 01:52:07.439
And we can go back and look at it, and

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I think it goes back to a core biblical principle

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that we're trying to hang on to, and that's that

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we're all created in the image of God, and because

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of that, each person has value, has sanctity, has dignity,

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01:52:22.520 --> 01:52:29.520
has immense worth. And I think unfortunately the left wing

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01:52:29.920 --> 01:52:38.079
progressive perspective, it dehumanizes people Bill and when you dehumanize

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and other people, you can perpetrate these sorts of things.

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And I think that's just one influence. And I wanted

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to say something else that's going to feel like a

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01:52:45.600 --> 01:52:47.600
little bit of a digression, but I just want to

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01:52:47.600 --> 01:52:51.199
toss it out there. You know, it plugged in where

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01:52:51.279 --> 01:52:54.760
I work and contribute to content being produced. We review

2070
01:52:54.800 --> 01:52:56.600
all sorts of stuff, and we've got a review that

2071
01:52:56.640 --> 01:53:00.800
we'll be publishing this week for the video game Borderlands.

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01:53:00.880 --> 01:53:03.680
For now, if you watch a trailer for this game,

2073
01:53:04.520 --> 01:53:08.720
it's basically every kind of action sci fi fantasy thing

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01:53:08.880 --> 01:53:12.159
you can think of, and you just shoot and kill

2075
01:53:12.239 --> 01:53:14.239
lots of things that are coming at you. I mean,

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01:53:14.279 --> 01:53:16.560
it's a little bit Terminator, it's a little bit Lord

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01:53:16.600 --> 01:53:19.680
of the Rings, it's a little bit superhero ish, and

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01:53:19.720 --> 01:53:24.319
it's just mad cap mayhem. And I don't want to

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01:53:24.600 --> 01:53:26.920
I want to be careful not to say, oh, violent

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01:53:27.039 --> 01:53:30.600
video games are the main thing that produced these things.

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01:53:30.600 --> 01:53:34.159
But we know that that the shoot was a gamer,

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01:53:34.319 --> 01:53:35.920
and I think that what I want to say is

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01:53:35.960 --> 01:53:41.640
that these games that have incredibly graphic violence, I think

2084
01:53:41.760 --> 01:53:46.439
play a desensitizing role. Right If all you are immersed

2085
01:53:46.479 --> 01:53:50.560
in is a world in which you are, you know,

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01:53:51.880 --> 01:53:56.479
digitally taking the lives of creatures constantly, and that's a

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01:53:56.520 --> 01:53:59.399
steady diet, I think it's fair game to ask the

2088
01:53:59.479 --> 01:54:03.640
question what's the influence of that? And thankfully not everybody

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01:54:03.680 --> 01:54:06.359
who plays a game where you shoot something is going

2090
01:54:06.399 --> 01:54:10.800
to become a shooter. But I do think it's worth

2091
01:54:10.840 --> 01:54:15.720
asking the question, man, how is our culture contributing to

2092
01:54:16.119 --> 01:54:19.880
violence and dehumanization where something like this can happen?

2093
01:54:20.399 --> 01:54:23.319
For thousands of years, Adam, we've been warned about searing

2094
01:54:23.359 --> 01:54:27.239
our conscience. The Apostle said, look at it this and

2095
01:54:27.319 --> 01:54:30.319
I believe this contributes to it is an exactly thing,

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01:54:30.760 --> 01:54:33.760
no doubt. The language, the rhetoric we've been warning for

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01:54:33.800 --> 01:54:36.000
a couple of years, the political rhetoric, the way it's

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01:54:36.039 --> 01:54:39.119
been out, you know, especially targeted towards Trump and anything

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01:54:39.159 --> 01:54:41.760
Donald Trump and any of his followers, all this has

2100
01:54:41.800 --> 01:54:45.520
been contributory to you know, to to this end, and

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01:54:45.640 --> 01:54:50.199
it is affecting the cancerous condition, I would say of

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01:54:50.239 --> 01:54:51.199
our culture, if I can.

2103
01:54:51.119 --> 01:54:51.760
Put it that way.

2104
01:54:52.439 --> 01:54:54.199
Yeah, And so you know, to circle back to where

2105
01:54:54.199 --> 01:54:57.399
we started. Our call is to be people of hope,

2106
01:54:58.560 --> 01:55:01.239
to be people of the God Gospel, to be people

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01:55:01.239 --> 01:55:07.520
who are standing firmly and unapologetically on what we believe,

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01:55:07.800 --> 01:55:10.520
which is that Jesus came and lived and died and

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01:55:10.640 --> 01:55:15.279
rose again for you, for me, for all of us.

2110
01:55:15.319 --> 01:55:17.880
And that is our message of redemption and hope.

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01:55:17.920 --> 01:55:20.960
Bill, right, And we can go with confidence because we

2112
01:55:21.039 --> 01:55:24.920
know that our eternity is sealed absolutely what Jesus did

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01:55:24.920 --> 01:55:26.039
at Calvary for us.

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Right, absolutely right absolutely.

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Bo blessed assurance, they say, right, yep, yeah, I love that. Well, Adam,

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01:55:33.960 --> 01:55:37.079
thank you, you know, thank you for your contribution and

2117
01:55:37.239 --> 01:55:39.520
oh yeah, you know coming on the show. Because this

2118
01:55:39.600 --> 01:55:42.960
is a time where we need to continue to seek

2119
01:55:43.000 --> 01:55:46.560
the spirit of God. Will be done. He is sovereign.

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01:55:46.720 --> 01:55:51.239
And there's a reason that you know that video was

2121
01:55:51.319 --> 01:55:54.479
out there as horrific as it is. Not everybody has

2122
01:55:54.479 --> 01:55:57.520
seen it, but it is horrific because what it brings

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01:55:57.520 --> 01:56:00.800
to life is that this is a real person. Yeah,

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this is a father, this is a husband, this is

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a contributing citizen of our country, a fellow believer, not

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some avatar, not some cartoon character. Right, you know in

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an arcade game.

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Yep, that is exactly right, Bill. And I'm glad that

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we have a chance to just talk about these things

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each week and hopefully contribute to the conversation in a

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way that is redemptive and that is moving people toward

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hope and moving people toward truth.

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Amen. Amen, Adam Holtz plugged in dot com. That's where

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you go to be in the flow of the No.

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Thank you, Adam, Take care of God, bless my friend

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you bit.

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Thanks Bill.

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eight hundred four to three, nine one five eight eight.

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That's eight hundred four three nine fifteen eighty eight.