Sept. 17, 2025

The Bill Martinez Show 09 17 25

The Bill Martinez Show 09 17 25
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The Bill Martinez Show 09 17 25
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Are you ready? Yeah, Okay, let's do it.

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Ill Martinas Live a program about current events, our culture,

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our values, our politics, and our future.

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And now Bill Martinez, Well.

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Good morning America. Six minutes after the top of the

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our Happy Constitution Day to you, officially, doctor Wilfrid Riley,

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the professor from Kentucky State University. Excuse me while I

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trip that out for a little bit, let me say,

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doctor Wilfrid Riley, the professor at Kentucky State University, welcome, Well,

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good to have you with us.

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Do glad to be on the show?

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Well Constitution Day?

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Huh?

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What do you think?

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It's a great Constitution?

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I mean, this is one of those days where I mean,

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we even in academia, don't do all that much.

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I mean, I have copies of the Constitution in my office, but.

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I mean it is good to remember the founding document

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of the United States, which is what I opened my

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criminal law class with every semester, and I find most

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people have never read it, right, So I mean.

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Including our conditions that we elect an office to represent

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us right based on that document? Yeah?

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Yeah, but I mean people are aware of what the

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Second Amendment says or something. When we started getting into

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you know four or five, six, seven, eight, right to

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speedy trial by a jority of your peers. And some

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people have no idea really where that's located, right, and

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you get to break it down for con law or cremlaw.

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But you know, I'm glad to be here on this

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August today.

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Yes, Well, it's also they added an addendum the Constitution Day,

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it's also Citizenship Day, which you know, you and I

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have discussed this before, and that is that, you know,

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the the privilege of citizenship has lost a bit of

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its luster and we need to reclaim that. I think

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this we've got to reset happening in our country right

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now as a result of the assassination of Charlie Kirk,

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and we're going to get into that. Bill Maher, you know,

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even chimed in on that and others. I don't know

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about you will, but I'm fed up with this. Well

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you guys do it too on your side kind of argument. Clearly,

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it's being proven out here according to the research, is

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it is the left that are very violent. In fact,

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recent research says that five out of ten left wingers

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approve of political violence, specifically death to Elon Musk and

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President Trump fifty percent, whereas on the conservative side, nine

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out of ten conservatives reject political violence just flat out.

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So this is where we are today. The left is

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taken over and know more of this stuff. I think

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the people on the right said, hey, quit blaming people.

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I don't know if I can recall the last time

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somebody on the right that was really defined as being

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somebody on the right, you know, with a maga hat

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or you know, supporting Donald Trump went out and killed somebody.

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Yeah.

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I mean, one of the issues with this is how

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you define political violence. So if you're on a Facebook

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and X, you've probably seen these memes recently where people

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are saying, you know, the right has committed x number

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of political murders in the past twenty years, and the

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left has committed you know, less or slightly less. The

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problem with that is that in general, riots for example,

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aren't defined as left wing political violence. Nine to eleven,

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which would be left coded in domestic terms, wasn't a

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Islamist political attack. That doesn't appear on most of those lists.

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So yeah, if you added in the BLM riots, which

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killed I think forty three people per the Federalist, you

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add in the LA riots, which is sixty to sixty

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three people.

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You know, so on down the line.

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And by BLM rights, I mean just me and George Floyd,

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not like first and riots and all that other stuff. Yeah,

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I mean you'd wind up with a substantially higher in

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almost every case left wing pull are. There are radicalized

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people on both extremes, but right now, like the of

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the last five mass shooters, you might correct this, but

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I think four of them were transgender. So you're really

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seeing like an angry movement coming out of just used

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to be stereotyped as peaceful hippies. But that's really cyclical.

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I mean, in the nineteen seventies, Puerto Rican Separative is

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attack Congress something like five times. So you're now seeing

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that movement again with like the John Brown gun Club, ANTIFA,

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you know, the NFA, let's say, coalition down here in

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Kentucky where you have organized left wing militias, which is

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a weird thing in the USA, but historically has been

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more dangerous than the.

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Right wing equivalent. So yeah, I mean, I think the FBI, those.

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Boys that specialize in counter terror stuff should look at

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some of these people.

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Eco terrorists come to mind, like large recipe.

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Yeah, and they are, well, you're exactly right. I mean,

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they're really honing in on this. And I think the

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challenge even for the Democrats is they're kind of waking

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up and realizing, like, whoa man, they're in our camp

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and they don't quite understand. And they're in there, you know,

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they're under their tent pegs and you know, so you

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make an excellent point here. But I think that systemically

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America overall, especially on a Constitution Day, Adams declared that

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our Constitution was designed for a moral and virtuous people.

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And the reason that we're having chaos, I believe, and

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people want to claim, uh, you know some problems with

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the Constitution. It has to do with us, you know,

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one on one individually. You know, are we morally bankrupt individually?

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And I think we need to do some soul searching

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and take take some assessment on that before we start

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looking beyond. Yes, there's some things immediately, like the trans issue,

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and you're finding in some you know, some doctors are saying, well,

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it's because all these drugs and you know, this is

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you know, creating you know, some madness and chaos in

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the minds of these young people whose genders are being altered.

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Yeah.

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I mean, well I think like and I'll probably take

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some heat for this, but trans people are by definition crazy.

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I mean, transgenderism is in the d s M four,

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in the DSM five as a as a psychiatric diagnosis.

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And this is something that's kind of ignored.

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I mean people just say, well, I'm a person that

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wants to live in my own unique way and so on.

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But the whole point of that diagnosis is that either

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you are a person who pretty much believes you're the

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opposite sex and that itself is causing you stress intention

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or you're a person who believes you're the opposite sex

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and because no one's going to accept that when it

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comes to foot racing and so on, that conflict with

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all of humanity is causing you stress intention So, like,

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the thing that people are asking other people to accept

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is a recognized medical condition, and I think that's pretty unique.

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I mean, we all understand people have depression, people have anxiety.

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A veteran might have PTSD.

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You try to comfort them with that, but no one

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with those common conditions, No girlfriend with bolima.

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Tells you you should simply accept me as a.

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Person with bliema, Like Buddy if I say I'm fat,

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I'm fat. And that's what the trans movement is coming with.

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And I think that not only is that insane, there's

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also the there's a great deal of simmering underlying anger

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at the fact that people won't just accept it. So,

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I mean, like the Nashville school shooter and another trans

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school shooter actually talked about this, Like she talked about

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seeing like these blonde she referred to them as crackers,

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but these perfect cysts another quote, children feeling this hatred,

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feeling isolated. So I think with a lot of these people,

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if someone's crazy mentally ill, if you prefer you should

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probably treat the underlying mental illness. The worst thing you

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could I mean, you know, I'm not a doctor, but

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the worst thing you could probably do is give them

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something like a prescription for pure testosterone and the right

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to buy a gun. And so we are seeing that,

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and that's not surprising.

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Well, and let's make it even more complex. Let's give

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them taxpayer surgery. And it's not just the surgery, but

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this is ongoing forever. So we're really not dealing with

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the root cause. I mean, I can have as much compassion,

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you know, toward an individual who's having a tough go

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in life. We all have had peaks and valleys of

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life where it's been tough, and you get to that

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point where, yes, depression can come in, and by the

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grace of God and whatever it takes, you're able to

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get out of it. Most of us able to get

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out of it. But if you're stuck in that rut

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and you're dealing with that and you're in that dark

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place in your head and you can't get out of it,

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you know you're dangerous to yourself and to others, and

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you need help.

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Yeah, I mean, that's essentially correct if you are mentally ill.

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And it's amazing that you even have to say this

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and kind of a formal discussion with the media a

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media friend. But like, if you're mentally ill, obviously that

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increases your risk of being dangerous. You frequently see people

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that have conditions like schizophrenia. I mean, you saw the

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man who killed the poor Ukrainian refugee was, in addition

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to being a racist, apparently a nut. I mean, he

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argued that what inspired him to do this was the

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government planting materials in his body or something like that.

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So if you think things that are visibly insane. Then

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there's a reason that thousands of years of human development

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has made us kind of wary of.

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That, the trans thing in particular. By the way, as

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you probably know, Bill.

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There's let's go to break. We'll pick it up on

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the other side. We've got more from the professor of

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and Lies My liberal teacher taught me, doctor Wilfrid Riley.

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Doctor Riley, I want you to go ahead and pick

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up where we left off in terms of dealing, you know,

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and understanding you know this trans issue.

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Go ahead, well, yeah, I mean, so trans people.

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There's a common phrase on the left like trans people exist,

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and that's true in the sense that people with the

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mental condition of gender dysphoria exist, or auto ginophilia, which

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is something we need to look into more. That's traditionally

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been considered a sexual perversion. But the idea of being

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excited about yourself being haken if you will as a woman.

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But those are people that have these conditions. There obviously

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aren't any people that actually are the opposite sex. So

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the question for me, not as a medical doctor, but

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it's a pretty good social science stats guy, is how

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do you treat the underlying psychological condition? Do you tell

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people to become comfortable with kind of the hardware they

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have the body that actually exists. I mean, you could

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probably give them same sex hormones if you think about it.

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If you have these low testosterone males that are beginning

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to think they're women, you could give them be twelve

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and testosterone for a year and see if they feel

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more manly.

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But do you change that?

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Do you get them a come from a customed to

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the hardware, or do you try to change the software package?

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I mean I might be mis misstating that, but do

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you try to mend the body so that it fits

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what someone sees in their mind? And the final the

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thing I was going to say before we hit that

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break was there's actually a really broad condition called bodily

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dysmorphia that gender dysphoria falls into. So there are people

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we recently saw a surgeon who cut his own legs off.

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He'd been some kind of fighting man. He was in

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the army.

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He thought his body was imperfect with all these arms

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and so on.

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And I don't mean to make.

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Fun of this, but he cut off both of his legs,

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I think one of his arms, and he's now apparently

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perfectly happy. The problem is that by both standards, he's crazy.

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So I mean he did this, he built insurance several

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hundred thousand dollars, and he's now fighting a civil case

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because of that.

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You can't do that. But this is actually extremely common.

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Like bolimia is bodily dysmorphia, anorexia is bodily dysmorphia. Many

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people that have known or dated someone of the arts

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have encountered this. But again, you normally don't tell anorexics

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that they are fat.

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That's what we're doing with transput.

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Right exactly, No, you're exactly right. I mean, of course,

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one of the big celebrated cases in my era, when

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I was a disc jockey in Los Angeles was Karen Carpenter.

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I mean I looked at Karen Carpenter, I go, what fat?

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What are you talking about? But that was her perception

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and there wasn't a mount enough, you know, therapy and

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whatever that could get her over, you know, over this

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perception that she held so tightly to and it took

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her to her death. But you know, but you have

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today's medical professionals somehow or quick to get you in

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surgery and try to re engineer the biology, which is

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like based on what I mean. Look at all these

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other countries will that have tried this, and they failed miserably,

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and it didn't take them a whole long time. They

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just said, hey, this is not working. But somehow here

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in America, the medical industrial complex is subsidized and built

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up in such a way that it's become like a

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bureaucratic agency, you know, like Ron Reagan says, once it starts,

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it lasts to eternity.

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Well, I think one of the stories I told you

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before the air once was that I went with my boss,

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his name is Elga, to a golf scramble, if I

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recall correctly, a couple of years ago, and one of

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the guys was in one of the foursomes was a

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member of the Tennessee Valley Authority. And I remember this

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is more Elgie's joke than mine, but I remember talking

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to the guy and asked, do you still exist, Like

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didn't you electrify the South bring light to the black community.

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And he said, well, yeah, but we don't. Bureaucracies don't

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go anywhere, like we're under something else. We're under in

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Perio now, but they still send us out here to

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shake hands, press the flush. And it was just sort

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of like that's when that was one of the things

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that kind of confirmed that, Yeah, I'm a conservative on

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almost every issue, Like you gotta you know, you got

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to look for work in the private sector, buddy.

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But that, yeah, things don't go anywhere.

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And that's actually true for the medical standards that we're

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looking at here as well, like they're intensely politicized that

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tied to these bureaucracies. Things in the USA actually that

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you could really attack from the left to kind of

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switch gears is that we have a very for profit

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medical system.

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I generally like that.

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But when you ask why would these doctors perform these

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crazy surgeries, Well, each one's worth one hundred and ten thousand.

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You're talking about the top and bottom surgery. It's a

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family practice, and you have to pay the bills on

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your house, so.

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You must plus on top of that. It doesn't stop

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at the surgery. Now you've got to maintain you know,

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all the pharmaceuticals and all the drugs to you know,

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try to figure out, you know, where's their basis point.

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Are they maintaining that basis point? You're not right?

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Well, yeah, I mean you're a you're a permanent patient

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after you get one of these surgeries, like full top

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and bottom. Like Shaneade Watson, who's one of the first

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D transitioners, who's this like adorably tough Scottish woman is

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a friend of mine. And if you actually hear what's involved,

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like the biology is very powerful. Like if you are

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if you ever stop taking your hormones and your trans

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you basically, unless you've had a hysterectomy or something, return

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to being the previous sex.

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Like you have a little fuzzy beard, but you can.

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Get pregnant and you're gonna be pretty enthusiastic about men,

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let's say for a while, once you stop the drugs

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you've been taking, so like this is lifetime. You know,

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if you're a man who wants to present a similockrum

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of femininity, you're gonna need to do things like scrape

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down the Adams Apple in your neck you're gonna need

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to do things like never do a traditional male weight

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training routine, like every day you're going to take estrogen,

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because otherwise you'll just be patrucless, you'll be a slightly

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feminine looking guy. So it's a it's an ongoing process

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for these for these these individuals.

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Well, and you and I had this discussion before, is

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our DNA runs deep. Of all the surgery they can

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do top and bottom, they're not getting into the DNA

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and reorganizing our DNA structure that was created by God himself.

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Yeah, well that's actually one.

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Of the things Mark Robinson in North Carolina got in

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trouble for Sammy had dumb scandal down their women or whatever.

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But like his actual speech on transgenderism is one of

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the things that do attention to him and it's a

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good speech. And the courus is like, you can't change

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that DNA. It's just this big southern guy having fun

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with that.

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Like God put that in you, you know.

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And there is an element of like every when you

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take a twenty three and me test. So I took

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mine and I'm you know, whatever percent black, Bonto whatever,

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percent Celtic, Irish whatever, percent mostly central plans Indians. It

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wasn't totally unsurprising to me. My friends are joking about that, like, yeah,

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you're basically.

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Hispanic, like you know a little bit more. That's that's

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what that is. It's a whole continent full of you guys.

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That's why you love That's why you love tacos man.

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I mean, but it's just like, you know, so a

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lot of months in the USA, but like one of

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the things that that test said vary conclusively. It was like,

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you're a male at ninety nine point nine percent, this

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is your testosterone stratiol level. You're an x Y chromosomal

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human being. So you can you can never shake that.

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I mean, and I actually understand that twenty three in me,

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and I don't want to misrepresent them, but they have

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a problem with transgender people because people will just send

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in a vial of blood and you'll test it and

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you'll say, Okay, you're clearly a healthy female, and people

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are starting to write back in rage, like no, sir,

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I'm a man named Boyce Harper and.

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These are my pronos and that's it. Yeah, exactly. Well,

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a couple of minutes left here getting back to you

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know this, you know what's happened, you know, since the

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murder of Charlie Kirk and how the people are responded.

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I mean, you got professors, you got doctors, got professional

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people that are celebrating the murder of a fellow humanoid.

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I gotta tell you. I mean, I don't know. I thought, gosh,

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am I living in a Pollyanna world or what here?

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That people are doing this, And then you read these

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stats about how dangerous it is to be a conservative

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and that you've got so many of the people five

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out of ten left wingers think hey, it's okay for

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you know, for political violence. This is nuts.

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Yeah, I mean I think that.

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And by the way, that same status, I think twenty

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two percent we're much better it is twenty two percent

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for right wingers. The big division, the big divide is

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that young people tend to think this because they've grown

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up in kind of this internet debate world.

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If you disagree with someone, you can tend to kill

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yourself as something people say online.

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It's completely different from the norms of a dinner gathering

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or anything else.

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That's a problem. I think I was.

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Surprised by the reaction as well, in terms not so

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like one point, I would make strategically is the life

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has really bad info sec. So I mean on the right,

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if you go on Twitter, you will also see accounts

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with like anonymous names saying crazy thing like when we

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take over this country.

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You know.

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But I mean those people are whatever you might think

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of them, they're going to be fairly difficult to track down.

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You know, They're just they're guys online. A lot of

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them are probably from India.

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With the left, the thing that was notable is that

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people were openly saying under their names, like Karen Atya

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from The Washington Post posted a fake Charlie Kirk quote

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with quotes on it saying Kirk didn't like black women,

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and that actually blew up.

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To such a point that she she got fired.

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But I think for those people don't I don't really

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have a ton of sympathy. I don't like quote unquote

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cancel culture. But if you're ahead nurse and you go

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under your name on Facebook and you say I'm not

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just I'm glad he's dead and I just I didn't

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like his viewpoints.

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When you start posting memes.

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Or like the Juggler Jugglar remain exploding, you're probably going

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to get sanctioned by your boss.

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And that's that's true in pretty much any field. So

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they're kind of they're reaping what they sew and they're

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not too enthusiastic about it.

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Well, we've got to leave it there. He's a professor

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of political science at Kentucky State University, Doctor Wilfred Riley

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will Is. Always appreciate the time and then take care.

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Welcome back Bill Martinez here along with Jenny Beth Martin

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from the Tea Party Patriots Action. Jenny Beth, good morning.

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Good morning, Bill.

558
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It's so good to be with you.

559
00:27:14.839 --> 00:27:16.960
They always good to be with you. And I know

560
00:27:17.000 --> 00:27:19.240
we want to talk about our friend Charlie Kurt And

561
00:27:20.319 --> 00:27:24.359
you know, I know that you traveled in his orbit,

562
00:27:25.359 --> 00:27:28.720
you know, and the exchange of ideas, the encouragement you know,

563
00:27:28.880 --> 00:27:32.720
for one another. You know, we're still I think everybody,

564
00:27:33.920 --> 00:27:37.319
you know, conservatives, people who who love God and want

565
00:27:37.359 --> 00:27:39.599
the best of our country and for each other, are

566
00:27:39.680 --> 00:27:44.240
still processing this horrific, horrific shooting.

567
00:27:45.079 --> 00:27:51.440
Yeah, it is truly just it's awful. It's horrific.

568
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And the man who did this and anyone who helped

569
00:27:55.359 --> 00:27:57.759
him or who knew and did not take action to

570
00:27:57.799 --> 00:27:58.400
stop him.

571
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They all need to be held a care mountable.

572
00:28:00.920 --> 00:28:04.240
It's just it's an awful assassination.

573
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When I saw that video last Wednesday.

574
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I just I cried and prayed and knelt down and prayed.

575
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That's all I knew to do because when I and

576
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of course I think by the time I was praying,

577
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and even as a time word got to got around

578
00:28:24.640 --> 00:28:29.359
on the internet pretty quickly after it happened, I think

579
00:28:29.400 --> 00:28:32.759
he had already died at that point, so I guess

580
00:28:32.759 --> 00:28:34.960
the good thing is he wasn't in pain. But Bill,

581
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I've known Charlie since he was nineteen. I was introduced

582
00:28:40.480 --> 00:28:43.319
to him by his first major donor and my first

583
00:28:43.359 --> 00:28:47.559
major donor, Foster Freeze, and I have a Foster asked

584
00:28:47.599 --> 00:28:50.559
me to help Charlie, and I promised that I would,

585
00:28:50.720 --> 00:28:53.680
and I did. But honestly, Charlie did not need much

586
00:28:53.680 --> 00:28:57.920
help for me. He was so talented and gifted, and

587
00:28:57.960 --> 00:29:00.880
he used those gifts in faithful.

588
00:29:00.519 --> 00:29:02.920
Obedience to God, and he.

589
00:29:04.480 --> 00:29:07.599
Made a mark on this world, not just on this country,

590
00:29:07.599 --> 00:29:11.000
but on this entire world. And I'm so proud that

591
00:29:11.039 --> 00:29:13.559
I knew him. I'm so proud it was friends with him,

592
00:29:14.160 --> 00:29:15.759
and I miss him terribly.

593
00:29:16.400 --> 00:29:20.319
I got Well, Jenny Beth, the thing that I see

594
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that is missing in a lot of reporting is the

595
00:29:24.000 --> 00:29:27.319
spiritual component that you just referred to. That was his

596
00:29:27.400 --> 00:29:32.400
driving force. That's what you know motivated him and drove

597
00:29:32.480 --> 00:29:37.279
him fearlessly to accomplish what he believed God had called

598
00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:39.880
him to do. And even when you met him at nineteen,

599
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I mean, how articulate and brilliant was he at nineteen

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years old? I mean you probably felt like you were

601
00:29:46.480 --> 00:29:49.279
running into some sort of renaissance man of something, you know,

602
00:29:49.839 --> 00:29:52.799
you know, because he was just so beyond his age.

603
00:29:53.359 --> 00:29:55.759
Well he wasn't. He certainly was beyond his age.

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And you know when I met him at nineteen, he

605
00:29:57.960 --> 00:30:01.400
definitely was beyond his age. And he also still was

606
00:30:01.400 --> 00:30:04.440
was a kid or a young adult, and he had

607
00:30:04.480 --> 00:30:08.400
that vibrance that the young people have where they think

608
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that they can do anything. And and he went and

609
00:30:11.839 --> 00:30:15.359
did as much as as one could possibly do in

610
00:30:15.400 --> 00:30:17.839
the space that he was in. And I don't think

611
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that he was at the very beginning talking as much

612
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about about God and his faith, but that changed over

613
00:30:25.440 --> 00:30:28.519
time because he was so grounded in both the founding

614
00:30:28.559 --> 00:30:34.240
principles for this country and in his biblical convictions that

615
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those he had to share that and had to explain,

616
00:30:38.599 --> 00:30:41.000
this is why I'm doing what I'm doing, This is

617
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why I'm saying that what you're saying is wrong here.

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And he would just go back to it time and

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time again. And I interviewed him about two years ago

620
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for my podcast, and in that time I talked about

621
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turning Point Faith because he had had begun it and

622
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had had church churches and were involved. Of course he

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00:31:02.119 --> 00:31:06.519
has more churches involved now, but he said that he

624
00:31:06.559 --> 00:31:10.279
wound up doing that and starting turning Point Faith because

625
00:31:10.319 --> 00:31:12.519
of the lockdowns over COVID.

626
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And the churches who had I felt the same way.

627
00:31:16.519 --> 00:31:19.200
I felt like so many churches in this country lost

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00:31:19.200 --> 00:31:22.119
their faith in God. They did not trust God. They

629
00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:26.000
trusted the government and test results more than they trusted God.

630
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And he started he went to several of the churches

631
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that did open and or remained open and maybe never

632
00:31:33.240 --> 00:31:37.200
even closed, and he got to know those ministers, those

633
00:31:37.240 --> 00:31:41.200
pastors and began to pull them together so that they

634
00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:46.400
could network and be very connected. And I was doing

635
00:31:46.400 --> 00:31:49.319
the same thing with doctors. I still am very very

636
00:31:49.359 --> 00:31:51.440
in touch with all the doctors that I helped pull

637
00:31:51.480 --> 00:31:55.920
together during COVID, and we both did things during that

638
00:31:56.000 --> 00:31:58.319
time that we never thought that we would do. But

639
00:31:58.519 --> 00:32:01.079
we saw a need and we answered that need.

640
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And he.

641
00:32:03.880 --> 00:32:06.880
It's just it's really hard, but he did what he

642
00:32:06.960 --> 00:32:09.279
felt like he was called to do, and he used

643
00:32:09.319 --> 00:32:13.519
his talents and gifts in faithful obedience to the Lord,

644
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and the Lord blessed him. But more importantly, the Lord

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00:32:18.160 --> 00:32:22.759
blessed his family, the organization turning point, and he blessed

646
00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:26.799
our nation. And I think that most I think most

647
00:32:26.839 --> 00:32:28.279
of your listeners would agree.

648
00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:32.200
God gave us another chance in twenty twenty.

649
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Four, and we have to make sure that we continue

650
00:32:36.440 --> 00:32:38.559
to do what we have seen over the last week.

651
00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:42.960
Continue to turn to God, continue to pray, pray for

652
00:32:43.039 --> 00:32:49.039
this country, pray of course for Charlie's family, and pray

653
00:32:49.160 --> 00:32:51.079
daily and read the Bible.

654
00:32:50.799 --> 00:32:54.680
Daily and ask God what he wants us to do.

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Listen to the Holy.

656
00:32:55.799 --> 00:32:59.119
Spirit in your heart, your turn to God, open your

657
00:32:59.160 --> 00:33:03.720
heart to God, and the Holy Spirit will help guide you.

658
00:33:03.720 --> 00:33:06.720
You know, as you say, when Charlie first started his

659
00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:09.960
love for country, you know, he started connecting the dots,

660
00:33:10.440 --> 00:33:13.359
you know, with the constitution. You know, looking at this country,

661
00:33:13.359 --> 00:33:15.559
and going, Wow, what other country around the planet here,

662
00:33:16.039 --> 00:33:18.720
you know, is as great as America. And he starts

663
00:33:18.759 --> 00:33:21.039
looking at the heritage. And as he looks at the

664
00:33:21.079 --> 00:33:25.440
heritage and he lifts the hood on this covenant and

665
00:33:25.480 --> 00:33:30.000
this great American idea, he realizes there's God, that God

666
00:33:30.079 --> 00:33:32.400
is at the foundation of it all. And I think

667
00:33:32.400 --> 00:33:36.960
that is as you know, like any other onion skin experience,

668
00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:39.000
you know, and you've experienced it with the Tea Party

669
00:33:39.000 --> 00:33:42.039
Patriots action, is that as the onion skin is lifted

670
00:33:42.039 --> 00:33:44.160
off and you go a little bit deeper and deeper

671
00:33:44.240 --> 00:33:48.640
used to oh, okay, this starts to really make more sense,

672
00:33:49.160 --> 00:33:52.720
and as it does, it motivates you and assures you

673
00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:55.880
that yes, you're not doing this out of some you know,

674
00:33:56.039 --> 00:33:59.960
just ridiculous momentary passion, that this has something of signal

675
00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:03.359
nificance and can make a difference. And as you mentioned

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twenty twenty four, and I've said this time and again,

677
00:34:06.079 --> 00:34:09.440
but for Charlie Clark, Charlie Kirk, I don't think Donald

678
00:34:09.440 --> 00:34:10.360
Trump gets elected.

679
00:34:11.000 --> 00:34:15.079
No, I don't think that he would have, but we

680
00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:18.559
don't know, and we can't go back. Thankfully, Charlie Kirk

681
00:34:18.679 --> 00:34:21.920
was around and Donald Trump was elected, so it's hard

682
00:34:21.960 --> 00:34:25.199
to hypothesize on that. But what we do know is this,

683
00:34:25.679 --> 00:34:28.920
Charlie was extraordinarily granted in his faith and in the

684
00:34:28.960 --> 00:34:35.199
Founding Principles. We heard that we have senators who don't

685
00:34:35.199 --> 00:34:39.000
even understand that our natural rights come from our creator,

686
00:34:39.280 --> 00:34:42.719
and that we explain this in the Decoration of Independence.

687
00:34:42.920 --> 00:34:47.079
Tim Kaine. Tim Kain a former vice Democratic Vice president

688
00:34:47.559 --> 00:34:49.599
candidate from the Great.

689
00:34:49.280 --> 00:34:53.719
Seat of Virginia, where Tomas Jefferson was from, and Thomas

690
00:34:53.760 --> 00:34:55.079
Jefferson helped write the.

691
00:34:55.079 --> 00:34:56.480
Decoration of Independence.

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We hold these truths to be self evident, that all

693
00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:03.159
men are created equal, and they are endowed with certain

694
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rights from their creator, inalienable rights from their creator.

695
00:35:09.639 --> 00:35:10.679
Charlie understood that.

696
00:35:10.880 --> 00:35:13.639
Charlie understood that God so loved the world he gave

697
00:35:13.679 --> 00:35:17.400
his only son, and whoever believes in him will have

698
00:35:17.480 --> 00:35:22.800
everlasting life. And Charlie understood that he trusted God, he

699
00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:25.639
trusted Jesus, he trusted the Holy Spirit. He understood it

700
00:35:25.679 --> 00:35:28.559
is a trinity in it's three. God is three in one,

701
00:35:29.039 --> 00:35:32.320
and he talked about that courageously. And I think that

702
00:35:32.400 --> 00:35:35.159
we all need to be willing to do that and

703
00:35:35.239 --> 00:35:39.239
to do so and sometimes it's maybe not comfortable to

704
00:35:39.280 --> 00:35:41.440
do that, or maybe you don't feel like you know

705
00:35:41.840 --> 00:35:44.679
every enough about the Bible to have debates.

706
00:35:44.880 --> 00:35:45.920
Don't have debates, and.

707
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Just talk about what the Lord has done in your life,

708
00:35:49.480 --> 00:35:51.159
how he has given you comfort.

709
00:35:51.639 --> 00:35:53.960
And I encourage everyone to pray right.

710
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Now, and when you're praying, pray for God for you

711
00:35:58.360 --> 00:36:01.519
to feel God's presence in your life, because when you

712
00:36:01.639 --> 00:36:04.719
feel his presence, he gives you the comfort and the

713
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love to make it through anything, including this horrific assassination.

714
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And that's my prayer for everyone listening right now, that

715
00:36:13.119 --> 00:36:15.880
they feel the presence of the Lord in their life

716
00:36:16.039 --> 00:36:19.280
right now, at this minute, and that gives them comfort

717
00:36:19.320 --> 00:36:19.760
and peace.

718
00:36:20.400 --> 00:36:24.320
Well, and to that point, look what Erica said, you know,

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about what would happen that And of course we read

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in the Word of God that at least unless the

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seed dies and is able to sprout up again, when

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when it sprouts it's even bigger, it multiplies. And clearly

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we're already seeing this happening with turning point. You know,

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we were what at about nine hundred organizations on campuses

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00:36:46.360 --> 00:36:49.920
at the time of Charlie's passing his murder, and now

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they've had what over thirty seven thousand requests for new chapters.

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Yes, and it is amazing they're going to need If

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if those thirty seven thousand people truly step up and

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start organizations, and I pray that they do, we're all

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going to need to help them, like go reach out

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to the local Turning Point chapter in your college and

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ask can give them gift cards so that they have

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pizza to give the students who show I mean, it's

734
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just little things like that that can make a huge

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difference for these students who have the courage to go

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and set up a table in the middle of their

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campus and say this is a truth.

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Come challenge me on it.

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That's what the Turning Point kids do and the Students

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for Life kids do the.

741
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Exact same thing.

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My daughter's been involved with both organizations, and they do

743
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tremendous work teaching these kids, giving them the tools they

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need to challenge the culture in the on the front

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lines and their college campuses, and Turning Point is amazing

746
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at doing that. And I hope that these thirty seven

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thousand people actually do start chapters and that we can

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all help them be successful because they are the next generation.

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That generation is why I do what I.

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Do, and we need to make sure we are supporting

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them with everything we have.

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Well, this is a time, as you say, a time

753
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for prayer and a time to be reminded of who

754
00:38:13.159 --> 00:38:15.960
our hope rests in. And our hope rests in a

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00:38:16.000 --> 00:38:18.400
sovereign God who wants the best first of all, who

756
00:38:18.400 --> 00:38:21.079
loves you to death, yes, and wants the very best

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for you, and he will continue to leave the ninety

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00:38:24.760 --> 00:38:29.039
nine if necessary, to go after the one, so he

759
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loves us that much. And Jenny Beth again, can you know,

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I'm just so grateful, you know, for our friendship and

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for your activation. And you're a vision you know for

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TEA Party, Patriots action. How can people be in touch?

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Well, just remember this, if we continue to turn to God,

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evil will not triumph and we will prevail. You can

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find more information about me at teapartypatriots dot org and

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you can follow me on all the socials at Jenny

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bethm And I'm going to be re running the episode

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Hey, right now about fourteen minutes people the top of

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the aren't going to have you with a son. Bill Martinez,

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Jim Robbie, Vice president for Numbers USA, Hey, Jim, how

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are you?

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Bill?

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I'm okay. It's been a very hard week.

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Yeah, we're all heavy of heart. And as we were

864
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talking before we went on the air, is that this

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is this is taking some time, you know, to process,

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and that's okay. People need to take their time and

867
00:44:35.639 --> 00:44:40.480
as they go through, you know, the the hierarchy of emotions,

868
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you know, from anger to denial all the way through,

869
00:44:45.559 --> 00:44:47.480
you know. But all this is a process that we

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must go through so that after everything is all said

871
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and done, that we take responsible action and that and

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00:44:55.199 --> 00:44:58.440
that first of all starts with us individually. That's something

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that has to be done on an INDIVI dual basis,

874
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and then we can come together corporately and see what

875
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needs to be done.

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Yeah.

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00:45:08.519 --> 00:45:11.880
I think that's right, Bill. I think you know. Numbers

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USA for thirty years has stood for civil engagement. He's

879
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all civil engagement. It says right there in our mission statement.

880
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You know, a civil forum to discuss immigration issues and

881
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work it out. And you know Charlie was he was

882
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good about that because he would He went to college

883
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campuses and really everywhere, and he engaged the people who

884
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disagreed with him. He got those to the front of

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the line. If you disagree, you speak first, and he

886
00:45:43.920 --> 00:45:47.159
respectfully disagreed. I mean, he could be smart, alec et cetera.

887
00:45:47.599 --> 00:45:50.079
Was he was a little bit he had a little

888
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bit of a showman in him, but mostly he was

889
00:45:51.639 --> 00:45:56.199
a communicator. He won over the over the youth with

890
00:45:56.239 --> 00:45:59.440
his arguments. And the thing about where immigration ties into

891
00:45:59.440 --> 00:46:03.079
this is that six years ago when I met him.

892
00:46:03.199 --> 00:46:05.079
One time I met I met him at one of

893
00:46:05.159 --> 00:46:08.320
his banquets in Washington at the Trump Hotel, and through

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00:46:08.719 --> 00:46:11.239
a mutual donor, I was seated at the head table

895
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with Charlie and he and I got to talk. I

896
00:46:14.679 --> 00:46:20.079
had noticed he was a quiet, serious, almost somber young man,

897
00:46:19.920 --> 00:46:23.840
and when he didn't know people, he wasn't like naturally

898
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bubbly every minute. But when he got up, he lit

899
00:46:29.719 --> 00:46:32.920
up that room of one thousand people, and everyone in

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00:46:32.960 --> 00:46:37.239
the room, including me, was hanging on every word that

901
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came out of his mouth, because he was just that

902
00:46:39.639 --> 00:46:43.800
kind of once in a generation communicator. But when I

903
00:46:43.840 --> 00:46:47.519
first met him, he actually wasn't really on our site

904
00:46:47.519 --> 00:46:50.400
on immigration. He was a little bit more the Wall

905
00:46:50.400 --> 00:46:53.280
Street Journal kind of libertarian Lucy gooon.

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00:46:53.719 --> 00:46:54.760
That was his original.

907
00:46:55.119 --> 00:46:58.480
But then some people who knew him and cared about

908
00:46:58.519 --> 00:47:02.119
him got around him and explain some things, and over

909
00:47:02.159 --> 00:47:06.039
time he became a champion of the American worker, and

910
00:47:07.039 --> 00:47:11.559
it came to and explained how globalism, by bringing in

911
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massive numbers of people to compete with people who are

912
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just working people right in our country, this places people

913
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who should be in the workforce, and how it's unfair.

914
00:47:24.119 --> 00:47:26.960
And of course he was. He was titanic in his

915
00:47:27.000 --> 00:47:30.800
opposition to illegal immigration, as we all are, and he

916
00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:33.800
became a very effective force. He did it though peacefully.

917
00:47:34.599 --> 00:47:38.519
He did it with argument and reason instead of name calling.

918
00:47:38.920 --> 00:47:42.360
He wouldn't allow people to be booed at his rallies.

919
00:47:42.559 --> 00:47:45.239
You remember that if anyone someone who disagreed with him,

920
00:47:45.239 --> 00:47:46.400
he quieted the crowd.

921
00:47:46.920 --> 00:47:47.440
Exactly.

922
00:47:47.719 --> 00:47:52.039
This is how we need to we need to approach

923
00:47:52.440 --> 00:47:56.639
our work. And we mourn the passing of Charlie Kirk,

924
00:47:57.119 --> 00:48:01.920
and it's it's like I was talking. I'm old enough

925
00:48:01.960 --> 00:48:07.079
where I remember personally the assassinations of nineteen sixty eight.

926
00:48:08.239 --> 00:48:13.480
I remember Robert Kennedy Senior being gunned down at the

927
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Ambassador Hotel in Los Angeles in June nineteen sixty eight,

928
00:48:20.920 --> 00:48:23.960
and how shocked I was, even though I was only

929
00:48:24.000 --> 00:48:27.079
a little lad and knew nothing about politics. But I

930
00:48:27.079 --> 00:48:30.559
could see the problem with assassinations, Bill, is they have a.

931
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Very long tail.

932
00:48:32.320 --> 00:48:36.920
Right, we're still arguing about JFK's assassination three years later.

933
00:48:37.280 --> 00:48:38.679
It's not calmed down.

934
00:48:38.559 --> 00:48:43.920
Yet because we don't know the truth, Jim, the truth.

935
00:48:44.000 --> 00:48:47.079
The truth has been stifled, and that's the issue. And

936
00:48:47.280 --> 00:48:50.519
what Charlie was bringing to the campus was was the

937
00:48:50.559 --> 00:48:53.679
banner of truth and holding it up with respect, as

938
00:48:53.679 --> 00:48:57.440
you said, And so these kids it wasn't necessarily that,

939
00:48:58.880 --> 00:49:02.079
you know, he it was just look at here the facts,

940
00:49:02.159 --> 00:49:05.159
you decide and do your own research. I mean he

941
00:49:05.360 --> 00:49:08.159
was self taught, as he explained to many of the students,

942
00:49:08.199 --> 00:49:10.159
because they'd go, you know, why are you picking on us?

943
00:49:10.199 --> 00:49:11.719
I mean you don't even have a degree. Why are

944
00:49:11.760 --> 00:49:14.719
we listening to you? Well, but yet as you said,

945
00:49:15.119 --> 00:49:17.960
I mean here he is. He talks, and he's so compelling.

946
00:49:18.000 --> 00:49:20.280
He's got the facts, he brings the receipts. How do

947
00:49:20.320 --> 00:49:21.320
you deny the truth?

948
00:49:21.920 --> 00:49:26.320
If you read the books, there's less need for college education, right, exactly.

949
00:49:26.800 --> 00:49:29.960
Well, And the thing is I also love too, is

950
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that you know the people you know would complain about it.

951
00:49:32.280 --> 00:49:34.559
And he says, well, bring your professor out here. I'll

952
00:49:34.679 --> 00:49:36.760
you know, have your professor come out here and prove

953
00:49:36.880 --> 00:49:37.239
me wrong.

954
00:49:37.840 --> 00:49:38.119
Right.

955
00:49:38.280 --> 00:49:40.639
I don't know that there was ever one professor that

956
00:49:40.679 --> 00:49:41.559
ever came out Jim.

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00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:42.360
Yeah.

958
00:49:42.400 --> 00:49:47.639
Well, I think they're probably intimidated by him, his amazing articulation.

959
00:49:48.000 --> 00:49:51.400
But then he had the he marshaled facts because he read.

960
00:49:51.719 --> 00:49:55.840
He read lots of big, thick books, and students they're

961
00:49:55.880 --> 00:49:58.760
sitting there looking at their phone looking for someone to

962
00:49:58.760 --> 00:50:01.679
send them two and three cents. It's cheat sheets about

963
00:50:01.800 --> 00:50:05.079
like a stay to Charlie Kirk. And you can't match

964
00:50:05.119 --> 00:50:07.920
wits with someone who's read a stack of big books

965
00:50:08.159 --> 00:50:10.639
with you know, two and three sentence bullet points.

966
00:50:10.639 --> 00:50:12.280
It just doesn't it doesn't work.

967
00:50:12.679 --> 00:50:15.320
But you know, one good thing happens since last we

968
00:50:15.440 --> 00:50:18.320
spoke one week ago, and that was the House of

969
00:50:18.360 --> 00:50:23.360
Representatives passed that bill. We were talking about Kate's Law.

970
00:50:23.960 --> 00:50:25.159
Yes you can remember.

971
00:50:24.920 --> 00:50:28.360
Kate Steinley, Yes, of course, we talked about her last week.

972
00:50:28.400 --> 00:50:32.880
But in San Francisco ten years ago. This happened was

973
00:50:33.199 --> 00:50:35.960
she was minding her own business and this guy had

974
00:50:35.960 --> 00:50:38.199
been deported what was it five times bill.

975
00:50:38.159 --> 00:50:40.280
And I think something like that. Yeah, he'd been.

976
00:50:40.360 --> 00:50:45.599
Five six times, he came on and killed her. And

977
00:50:45.639 --> 00:50:48.239
in the outrage of everyone in the country who had

978
00:50:48.280 --> 00:50:51.519
any sense, it's like, why are we letting these jokesters

979
00:50:51.880 --> 00:50:54.239
back in the country and then not locking them up?

980
00:50:54.840 --> 00:50:59.159
And sadly Kate Kate's death was not enough. It was

981
00:50:59.320 --> 00:51:04.000
not enough, and that was Yeah, that's really a travesty.

982
00:51:04.280 --> 00:51:07.760
But in the course of time, Mike Johnson has done

983
00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:11.000
a good job at the House of Representatives and he's

984
00:51:11.039 --> 00:51:13.719
fulfilled some promises where he used to promises.

985
00:51:13.280 --> 00:51:18.079
Being made and then not fulfilled. Right. I mean, we're very,

986
00:51:18.199 --> 00:51:18.920
very used to it.

987
00:51:19.079 --> 00:51:21.719
But this guy, I kind of I really like him

988
00:51:21.800 --> 00:51:25.960
because he he does do the things he says he'll do.

989
00:51:26.599 --> 00:51:30.920
And Kate's Law it says if guys have been deported

990
00:51:31.400 --> 00:51:34.280
and they come back and they've got felonies on their record,

991
00:51:34.480 --> 00:51:36.000
not just steep parties, but they've got a.

992
00:51:35.920 --> 00:51:36.679
Felony on the record.

993
00:51:36.719 --> 00:51:38.760
In other words, the same thing that happened with this

994
00:51:38.920 --> 00:51:43.239
Kate's Law situation. This creep who came back. If they've

995
00:51:43.280 --> 00:51:47.360
got then then if they're caught again, it's five years

996
00:51:47.400 --> 00:51:52.840
mandatory sentence. So that passed with all Republicans in the

997
00:51:52.880 --> 00:51:56.960
House and eleven Democrats. Now you'd say, why it wasn't

998
00:51:56.960 --> 00:52:02.320
it one hundred and eleven Democrats? Go out ask your representatives, right, audient?

999
00:52:03.360 --> 00:52:06.840
But eleven stood forth and and you know, I think

1000
00:52:07.119 --> 00:52:08.760
it would have it if we can get a vote

1001
00:52:08.760 --> 00:52:10.920
in the Senate, which I think we could get a vote.

1002
00:52:11.039 --> 00:52:14.000
I think it has a good chance. I think people

1003
00:52:14.039 --> 00:52:16.920
like Fetterman and Gaego will vote for it.

1004
00:52:17.199 --> 00:52:18.199
Can we get to.

1005
00:52:18.199 --> 00:52:19.440
The eleven we need?

1006
00:52:20.039 --> 00:52:20.159
Uh?

1007
00:52:20.960 --> 00:52:21.559
Not eleven?

1008
00:52:22.480 --> 00:52:26.280
What is it sevent? Can we get the seven to

1009
00:52:26.320 --> 00:52:27.119
pass that law?

1010
00:52:27.159 --> 00:52:31.079
Because the President waits to sign it, and you know,

1011
00:52:31.760 --> 00:52:36.119
we it's it's not all about deportations. There's this poor

1012
00:52:36.159 --> 00:52:41.920
girl who is the the the the Ukrainian refugee with status.

1013
00:52:42.760 --> 00:52:45.119
But it was the same thing in the in the

1014
00:52:45.159 --> 00:52:47.400
sense that it was a guy who'd been out, he'd

1015
00:52:47.400 --> 00:52:52.599
had been at fourteen fourteen arrest or fourteen crimes out. Well,

1016
00:52:52.960 --> 00:52:58.599
you know, uh, that's a state matter. The people of

1017
00:52:58.760 --> 00:53:00.960
north of North Carolin. I have to take care of

1018
00:53:01.000 --> 00:53:02.519
that because that's that's state crime.

1019
00:53:02.760 --> 00:53:05.679
But but but immigration is a federal crime.

1020
00:53:05.920 --> 00:53:08.639
Right exactly. Well for this guy, for this guy though,

1021
00:53:08.719 --> 00:53:12.280
his his murder, the murder of this young Ukrainian girl

1022
00:53:12.400 --> 00:53:15.840
happened on a transport, so that makes it a federal issue.

1023
00:53:16.880 --> 00:53:20.039
Oh well, I mean, you guys know that, But I

1024
00:53:20.079 --> 00:53:22.360
as is the first I've heard about that. That's interesting,

1025
00:53:22.400 --> 00:53:22.760
isn't it.

1026
00:53:23.159 --> 00:53:23.360
Yes?

1027
00:53:23.880 --> 00:53:26.320
Okay, so well, they are little more to work with.

1028
00:53:26.639 --> 00:53:29.440
But the thing is, we do have one thing. Everyone

1029
00:53:29.480 --> 00:53:33.559
in America is tired of people coming back across the

1030
00:53:33.599 --> 00:53:36.599
border or overstaying their visas or however they get here

1031
00:53:37.039 --> 00:53:40.960
and they've already been deported and their criminals and they're

1032
00:53:41.039 --> 00:53:43.480
let then they're just they go back the revolving door.

1033
00:53:43.559 --> 00:53:45.320
Let's send them back to wherever they come from so

1034
00:53:45.360 --> 00:53:50.880
they'll come back and rob again, eventually kill again. This

1035
00:53:50.960 --> 00:53:55.000
bill must pass. I really want everybody on this on

1036
00:53:55.039 --> 00:53:57.840
the on the on the show, who's looking if they

1037
00:53:57.840 --> 00:54:01.719
haven't done, go to numbers USA dot Com Numbers us

1038
00:54:01.800 --> 00:54:06.519
a plural numbers, USA dot com one word and and

1039
00:54:07.000 --> 00:54:09.639
uh sign up to send our free messages to Congress,

1040
00:54:09.679 --> 00:54:13.119
because that's why Congress passed. That's why the House passes

1041
00:54:13.159 --> 00:54:15.840
built this last week exactly. And we got to get

1042
00:54:15.880 --> 00:54:19.840
the Senate to act. We we know that they mean well,

1043
00:54:19.880 --> 00:54:21.519
but they've got a lot to do, and there are

1044
00:54:21.519 --> 00:54:24.559
a lot of distractions, and they've got hearings and but

1045
00:54:24.679 --> 00:54:27.159
you know this needs to but you got but you

1046
00:54:27.239 --> 00:54:29.880
got the Democrats doing everything they can to interfere Jim.

1047
00:54:29.960 --> 00:54:32.320
That's the other thing. They're not here to serve the

1048
00:54:32.360 --> 00:54:35.039
people and to you know, because they look at it

1049
00:54:35.079 --> 00:54:38.079
as forwarding you know, Donald Trump. You know, Donald Trump's

1050
00:54:38.119 --> 00:54:41.079
the big boogeyman, and all this stuff comes down. You

1051
00:54:41.159 --> 00:54:44.719
got Kathy Hokel right now, Uh endorsing a socialist, a

1052
00:54:44.760 --> 00:54:49.400
communist basically, and uh, and she's endorsing him because of

1053
00:54:50.039 --> 00:54:53.800
some perceived political advantage. And the other thing that she

1054
00:54:53.880 --> 00:54:56.320
says that, uh, the main reason that she had to

1055
00:54:56.360 --> 00:54:58.880
do it is because this guy, you know, hates Trump

1056
00:54:59.199 --> 00:55:01.960
and she know it's like the enemy of my enemy

1057
00:55:02.000 --> 00:55:05.480
type of thing. And so she saddles up to mom Donnie.

1058
00:55:06.000 --> 00:55:07.480
Yeah, the weird thing.

1059
00:55:07.559 --> 00:55:11.239
Bill, I mean, you know it's kind of simple mouth

1060
00:55:11.880 --> 00:55:15.840
that nothing plus nothing equals.

1061
00:55:15.239 --> 00:55:19.400
What Yeah, still the same? Yes, exactly, yeah, pufkus.

1062
00:55:19.679 --> 00:55:23.639
The problem is you can't just oppose things because you know,

1063
00:55:23.760 --> 00:55:25.079
that's that's that's that's.

1064
00:55:24.920 --> 00:55:26.840
Not a program. A program is not.

1065
00:55:27.519 --> 00:55:30.519
I hate this. That's still you're still a zero there right,

1066
00:55:31.679 --> 00:55:35.320
flashing You're you're worse than zero? Jim? When when when

1067
00:55:35.400 --> 00:55:38.280
when you hate something, you're worse than because you've got

1068
00:55:38.320 --> 00:55:40.599
to get to the point to where you're reasonable and

1069
00:55:40.639 --> 00:55:43.960
then you can move forward. Until then you're just dragging

1070
00:55:44.159 --> 00:55:47.159
you know this, uh, this anchor behind you all the way?

1071
00:55:47.239 --> 00:55:49.480
So how effective can you be? Go ahead, I'm gonna

1072
00:55:49.519 --> 00:55:50.400
let you wrap it up.

1073
00:55:50.679 --> 00:55:51.239
Okay, Bill.

1074
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You know that we're bipartisan organization at Numbers USA. What

1075
00:55:54.599 --> 00:55:57.280
we want is to work with Democrats who want to

1076
00:55:57.320 --> 00:55:59.639
be reasonable, and there are some in this Senate. We've

1077
00:55:59.679 --> 00:56:03.239
had Beetterman Diego who voted for us in this in

1078
00:56:03.280 --> 00:56:06.039
this other immigration law. We need them to come forward

1079
00:56:06.039 --> 00:56:09.760
and say improve that they were willing and ready to

1080
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protect the American people against these criminal aliens.

1081
00:56:13.800 --> 00:56:17.599
Exactly, Jim Rob Vice President Operations for Numbers USA. Hey, James,

1082
00:56:17.639 --> 00:56:19.519
thank you so much, appreciate it, Take care, have a

1083
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Getting America back on track, Bill Martinez Live.

1106
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Welcome, Morning, Welcome. Six minutes after the top. They are

1107
00:57:37.519 --> 00:57:40.199
right now Bill Martinez here with Scott Palell and mister Scott.

1108
00:57:40.199 --> 00:57:40.920
Now are you buddy.

1109
00:57:41.119 --> 00:57:42.960
I'm great, Bill Scritchy with you.

1110
00:57:43.480 --> 00:57:46.679
Great to have you here. Talk about something that's not

1111
00:57:46.760 --> 00:57:48.519
talked a whole lot. I mean, it's like this day

1112
00:57:48.599 --> 00:57:52.599
comes every year and it goes about as fast as

1113
00:57:52.599 --> 00:57:57.199
it comes, and people forget, you know that we just

1114
00:57:57.360 --> 00:58:03.039
let a significant day go bias called Constitution Day. Actually

1115
00:58:03.039 --> 00:58:06.760
it's it's it's been expanded. I don't know. This was

1116
00:58:07.039 --> 00:58:12.199
in the early two thousands. Their Congress decided to alter

1117
00:58:12.320 --> 00:58:17.079
the name a little bit and call the Constitution and Citizenship.

1118
00:58:16.360 --> 00:58:19.760
Day, right, right, they merged these two ideas together, and

1119
00:58:20.199 --> 00:58:20.960
it's appropriate.

1120
00:58:21.000 --> 00:58:25.840
But I think still most people, you know.

1121
00:58:26.519 --> 00:58:29.159
They've heard a Constitution Day, right, they do.

1122
00:58:29.320 --> 00:58:32.320
But the reason that for me that I appreciate that

1123
00:58:32.440 --> 00:58:35.800
it's Citizenship Day is that we're starting to again talk

1124
00:58:35.840 --> 00:58:40.199
about the significance of our citizenship. I have felt that

1125
00:58:40.360 --> 00:58:45.760
in the recent years, especially, the value of our citizenship

1126
00:58:45.960 --> 00:58:50.000
has been denigrated and we need to elevate that that

1127
00:58:50.360 --> 00:58:54.760
where citizenship means something, you know, whether it's voting, whether

1128
00:58:54.960 --> 00:58:58.880
it's the law, whether it has to do with immigration,

1129
00:58:59.559 --> 00:59:01.840
I mean, right on down the line that you know,

1130
00:59:02.000 --> 00:59:06.960
citizenship comes with privileges that are clearly enumerated in our

1131
00:59:07.000 --> 00:59:11.000
constitution lest they be ignored. And what we have is

1132
00:59:11.039 --> 00:59:14.679
a growing number of politicians and bureaucrats who want and

1133
00:59:14.840 --> 00:59:18.199
I would say activist judges that somehow think that it's

1134
00:59:18.239 --> 00:59:22.840
convenient to ignore you know said, uh said values is enumerated.

1135
00:59:23.400 --> 00:59:26.519
Absolutely, yeah, So you you're so right, Bill, and saying

1136
00:59:26.559 --> 00:59:30.039
that we have these privileges, I guess we could call

1137
00:59:30.039 --> 00:59:32.800
them rights, but we both know you and I both

1138
00:59:32.840 --> 00:59:37.159
know that there is no such thing as rights without responsibilities.

1139
00:59:37.199 --> 00:59:42.199
And that's exactly yea of making people aware of what

1140
00:59:42.239 --> 00:59:46.280
it means to be a citizen. What is the you know,

1141
00:59:47.679 --> 00:59:50.199
what is the what is the cause our obligation to

1142
00:59:50.280 --> 00:59:54.119
the constitution. And it's really it's not that it's it's

1143
00:59:54.159 --> 00:59:57.400
overly taxing. Yes, we have there federal taxes on an

1144
00:59:57.400 --> 01:00:00.239
earned on money and locally on your real state and

1145
01:00:00.320 --> 01:00:05.239
so forth. But really a citizenship involves voting, It involves

1146
01:00:08.719 --> 01:00:13.000
being engaged in your you know, in your community and

1147
01:00:13.119 --> 01:00:18.719
in your country in a way that involves being informed. Uh,

1148
01:00:18.760 --> 01:00:23.320
you know, an informed voter is is the basis uh,

1149
01:00:23.840 --> 01:00:28.119
you know for our governance. Really Uh, as people have

1150
01:00:28.159 --> 01:00:32.920
become less informed and more pliable and manipulated by you know,

1151
01:00:33.079 --> 01:00:39.679
propaganda and political appeals. Uh, they're they're voting is uh

1152
01:00:40.000 --> 01:00:42.360
is skewed. They're they're not really voting in their in

1153
01:00:42.400 --> 01:00:44.360
their interests. I mean, why would you vote for this

1154
01:00:44.400 --> 01:00:47.000
guy what's his name? Mandami and Mandani?

1155
01:00:47.119 --> 01:00:47.719
Yes, right?

1156
01:00:48.800 --> 01:00:50.199
Why would you vote.

1157
01:00:50.360 --> 01:00:56.199
For a hardcore socialist is La Islamist socialists when the

1158
01:00:56.360 --> 01:00:59.360
record is so clear of what the result is.

1159
01:01:00.119 --> 01:01:03.440
Yeah, but look at the survey from Gallup though recently

1160
01:01:03.519 --> 01:01:10.519
scott Democrats, the majority of Democrats are embracing socialism. I mean,

1161
01:01:11.039 --> 01:01:13.519
I mean we Trevor Lauden has been telling us that,

1162
01:01:13.760 --> 01:01:16.400
you know, elected officials, you know, we're all part of

1163
01:01:16.440 --> 01:01:20.159
the Democrat Socialist Party for a long time and very

1164
01:01:20.199 --> 01:01:23.880
well documented. And now it's like they've all decided there's

1165
01:01:23.880 --> 01:01:25.639
a coming out party and they're all out of the

1166
01:01:25.679 --> 01:01:28.840
closet and here they are, and Mam Donnie and you've

1167
01:01:28.840 --> 01:01:32.039
got Mam Donnie. And now there's supposedly, i don't know,

1168
01:01:32.039 --> 01:01:36.679
another two dozen, three dozen Mamdani like characters that are

1169
01:01:36.719 --> 01:01:41.599
being infiltrated and parachuted into cities across the country to

1170
01:01:42.039 --> 01:01:46.400
attack these principles because they see right now, Scott, that

1171
01:01:47.280 --> 01:01:49.960
America is right for the picking it is.

1172
01:01:50.159 --> 01:01:53.559
You're right in spite of you know, the Trump victory

1173
01:01:53.639 --> 01:01:57.599
and the make America Great Again, the Maga movement, which

1174
01:01:57.679 --> 01:02:03.159
is very powerful. The reality is is that these there's

1175
01:02:03.199 --> 01:02:09.800
been a really a demonic, a politically demonic approach to

1176
01:02:09.880 --> 01:02:14.079
taking America down, and it really has started. This vision

1177
01:02:14.199 --> 01:02:16.199
was cast in the seventies. The way we're going to

1178
01:02:16.239 --> 01:02:19.760
take America down is locally. First, we're going to take

1179
01:02:19.760 --> 01:02:21.920
over the cities, and then we're going to take over

1180
01:02:21.960 --> 01:02:22.480
the states.

1181
01:02:23.280 --> 01:02:26.880
Well, what they did was they attacked our faith. Yes, yeah,

1182
01:02:26.920 --> 01:02:29.360
you know, they brought they brought down you know, and

1183
01:02:29.400 --> 01:02:31.719
they're back. We're back to the garden. Did God really say?

1184
01:02:32.239 --> 01:02:37.000
And so you've had a growing disinterest in religion in

1185
01:02:37.000 --> 01:02:41.760
our country and people are shortsighted. They're not seeing the correlations. Scott,

1186
01:02:41.800 --> 01:02:43.719
you and I have talked about this. I mean, look,

1187
01:02:43.880 --> 01:02:48.239
as America has continued to step away from God, it

1188
01:02:48.519 --> 01:02:50.920
seems to open the portals for more chaos. I mean

1189
01:02:50.920 --> 01:02:54.039
he had a situation just last week. Kim Kane. I mean,

1190
01:02:54.039 --> 01:02:57.199
this is this is a senator, this is a guy

1191
01:02:57.559 --> 01:03:02.159
who was a vice presidential can it for the Democrats? Right?

1192
01:03:02.599 --> 01:03:06.599
And he make this statement that you know, there are

1193
01:03:06.639 --> 01:03:09.320
no there's no such thing as inalienable rights that come

1194
01:03:09.320 --> 01:03:09.760
from God?

1195
01:03:10.679 --> 01:03:10.880
Right?

1196
01:03:11.480 --> 01:03:14.800
This is and he he's a Catholic. Yes, I mean

1197
01:03:14.840 --> 01:03:17.960
what what what happened? What happened to him? Did did

1198
01:03:18.199 --> 01:03:20.840
somebody with a you know, some reptile with the long

1199
01:03:20.920 --> 01:03:23.800
tail hidden behind a suit come and visit him in

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the middle of the night and brainwash him?

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You may be onto something there, Bill, brainwashing is real

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and and demonic spiritual influence is real. Uh and we

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see it in Spains right now across America. How that, Well,

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you can't really explain people's behavior in any sort of

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rational way. They're acting. They're not acting in their own interests.

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They may be acting to some extent, and what they

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perceive is the interest that they can take power somehow. Well,

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they're they're going to be you know, they're they're going

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to be taken care of, they're going to be in charge.

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But the reality is is that there is no there

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has been no successful socialist government.

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Really yeah. But you know, but you got to look

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at the majority of Democrats could care less because they

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do the same thing that they always do. They fall

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into this mantra, oh, Bill, we just didn't have enough time,

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we didn't have enough money. But we've got a better idea.

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I mean, this is after hundreds, if not thousands of

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years of you know, experimental socialism or some form of communism,

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which all leads, you know, has been said all all

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roads of socialism end up in communism. And but but

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that's their insistence, you know, to try to brainwash us.

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And uh, you know, and and I think that what happens,

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especially where we are right now economically, uh, dealing with

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the portability issues, things that you know, the FED is

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not helping us out with right now to that end,

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and other things activist judges that are happening, you know,

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at every turn, these blue cities that are running amok,

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where their lawlessness going on, where you know, some young

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woman twenty four years old leaves a war torn area

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like Ukraine to come here to the United States for

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a hope of a better future, and she's murdered. And

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the people there and the people in North Carolina Scott

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just they kind of just yawned, I mean to shrug

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their shoulders and yawned. And it's like, going, where is

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the outrage? How come you guys aren't out in the

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street yelling and screaming. You know that this has got

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to this is unacceptable. You know, Blue state, Red state.

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I don't care. You know what about just you know

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that you have the right to be able to go

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to work, you know, work hard for your family, and

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and you know, and have life liberty, the pursuit of happiness,

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those inalienable rights that you know Tim Kaine says don't

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don't exist.

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Well, they do exists.

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We know that, I know, I know. But I mean,

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but to come from somebody of his, of his level

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of prominence, I mean he's disqualified. I mean, put a

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bag over his head, drag him out of the Senate,

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say you know you can't play here anymore. Yeah, you

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need you need, you need therapy.

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I'm with you.

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I'm with you.

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I think I think we all need to you know,

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we need to stand up, We need to be firm,

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We need to discredit this, this sort of opposition. I mean,

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Tim Gains should should be ridiculed.

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Yeah, without a doubt. Anyway, We've got to go to

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You know, we're back with you, Bill Martinez, along with

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Scott Powell and Scott as we were saying, you know,

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we get back to this this battle between good and evil,

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I mean Constitution Day and looking at the Constitution, well, hey,

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it spells things out there, you know, without really specifically

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saying good and evil, I mean it gives you a choice,

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you know, here's what you've got to choose this day

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in a sense, you know, and here's all these Judeo

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Christian principles that were brilliantly you know, written into our Constitution,

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which you know still I believe a majority of Americans

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believe in even though socialism is rising and a growing interest,

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but that's just you know, one party. Thank god, the

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Republicans and Convatives, they're still holding the ground and they

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still believe in these God given values.

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Right, yes, yes, I mean I think we have the

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numbers on our side, but we don't. We don't have

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the culture, we don't have the media megaphone as much

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as we need to. And but the reality is is

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the alternative media, like Real America's voice, like what you're doing, Bill,

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you're part of the alternative media has been growing by

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leaps and bounds because you know, people recognize that they're

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not getting the truth from the mainstream media, so they're

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looking elsewhere. So everybody that's listening to you, Bill should

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should tell their friends about your show. You know, we

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need to get the word out more broadly that there

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really is there is a large, you know, a large

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source of good information about what's going on in our country,

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in the world that is outside of the mainstream media.

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So well, my encouragement, Scott is that we have to

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re embrace critical thinking. Okay, you know, I appreciate the

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plug for the show, and we're one voice out there

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in the desert. You know, there's many out there, and

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thank God for it. But you know, I just hope

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people embrace, can re embrace the things that we're talking about,

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you know, critical thinking. You know, don't just take other

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people's word for it. Don't give up. I mean, because

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as my good friend doctor Johnson and Merrick says, it's

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almost like learned helplessness. We've been conditioned. We're like that,

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you know, that proverbial metaphor of the frog and the

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boiling water. You know, we're being slowly but surely cooked

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in this process. But don't give up this, this American idea,

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the constitution that we're talking about, is worth fighting for.

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You know, over a million people have given up their

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lives for our liberties, for the sake of the Constitution

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and all the values that are enumerated there. We owe

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it to them to say, you know what, you didn't

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give up your life in vain.

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That's right, absolutely absolutely, I mean, you know, the Constitution

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is the oldest, the oldest. Our constitution is the is

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the longest running constitution in the world in history. You know,

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most most constitutions last about twenty years, that's the average

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before they're fundamentally changed. But we have had the same

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constitution since it was of course it was rafted in

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seventeen eighty seven, it wasn't fully ratified for a year

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and a half two years seventeen. So technically seventeen eighty

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nine is sort of when the Constitution became the constitution

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of these United States. And at that time, of course,

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there were only thirteen states. Right, but this is a

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you know, think about that. That's it's the longest running constitution, uh,

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you know, in the history of mankind.

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Right. And the thing is got you know, Constitution Day,

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and we talked about it is a day. I mean,

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it should be a lifestyle, not just a day. And

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the thing is, you know, we were talking earlier about

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this bill that was passed in Congress saying that on

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that day, especially you know, schools and institutions who are

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supposed to focus on the Constitution. It's like, look it,

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I mean, here you are where where we've got people

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willing to embrace Marxism right now? Now, what happened in

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other Marxist nations. They didn't have a day to teach Marxism.

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It was every day was Marxist Day, and they spent

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hours in doctrinating people. And here we are with this

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incredible document that is supported by you know, as I said,

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over a million people who've paid the ultimate price for

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it to defend it, and we kind of give it

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lip service. And it's almost like, in a sense, we

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don't deserve it, you know, we don't deserve what this

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that in a way that we should be ashamed the

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way we've dishonored it. We've dishonored the Constitution and thereby

1434
01:16:16.800 --> 01:16:19.159
have dishonored our own citizenship.

1435
01:16:20.720 --> 01:16:23.920
I agree with you, Bill, You've said it very well.

1436
01:16:24.319 --> 01:16:28.640
It's a sad state of affairs. But when we study history,

1437
01:16:28.720 --> 01:16:31.479
you know, we study the nation of Israel, I mean it.

1438
01:16:32.680 --> 01:16:35.640
You know, God gave them many chances and they continuously

1439
01:16:35.720 --> 01:16:40.840
sort of fell away from their fundamental faith. And similarly,

1440
01:16:41.039 --> 01:16:43.520
you know, the other battle that we have in America

1441
01:16:43.560 --> 01:16:46.479
in particular is affluence. You know, we're an affluent country,

1442
01:16:46.560 --> 01:16:51.199
and when people are successful economically, they have a tendency

1443
01:16:51.239 --> 01:16:55.239
to think that they did that their success is from

1444
01:16:55.279 --> 01:16:55.920
their effort.

1445
01:16:55.960 --> 01:16:56.760
It isn't.

1446
01:16:57.399 --> 01:16:59.359
It isn't from you know, it isn't from God.

1447
01:16:59.399 --> 01:16:59.840
It isn't.

1448
01:16:59.880 --> 01:17:04.000
It isn't from a free society that allowed them, you know,

1449
01:17:04.319 --> 01:17:07.479
to pursue their dream and to be creative and to

1450
01:17:07.560 --> 01:17:11.960
produce in ways that led to you know, building wealth.

1451
01:17:12.560 --> 01:17:12.840
Uh.

1452
01:17:13.000 --> 01:17:16.640
You know, wealthy people tend to be they tend they

1453
01:17:16.680 --> 01:17:19.039
tend to walk away from God. And that's a that's

1454
01:17:19.079 --> 01:17:20.239
a big problem.

1455
01:17:21.880 --> 01:17:22.119
You know.

1456
01:17:22.239 --> 01:17:26.279
The humility we are starting point as Christians is that

1457
01:17:26.319 --> 01:17:29.920
we're humble, that we recognize a need for God in

1458
01:17:29.960 --> 01:17:31.920
our lives on a daily basis.

1459
01:17:32.880 --> 01:17:34.600
Well, you know, and even I got to tell you,

1460
01:17:34.680 --> 01:17:37.760
even within the church today and there's this uh you know,

1461
01:17:37.840 --> 01:17:42.600
as you've got these prosperity preachers out there preaching a

1462
01:17:42.640 --> 01:17:46.279
prosperity gospel. Yeah, you know, and you go, wait a minute,

1463
01:17:46.279 --> 01:17:49.760
that's that is antithical to what Jesus preached. Jesus, I

1464
01:17:49.760 --> 01:17:51.760
don't you know you reading the Bible. I don't see

1465
01:17:51.800 --> 01:17:53.840
anywhere in the Bible where Jesus said, hey, look at it.

1466
01:17:53.840 --> 01:17:55.159
I want you to come to me, and you're going

1467
01:17:55.239 --> 01:17:58.319
to be rich. You know, you're just going to be

1468
01:17:58.359 --> 01:18:03.039
so so stinking rich because you know, you believe in

1469
01:18:03.079 --> 01:18:05.079
Me and you've professed you know, the Son of God

1470
01:18:05.159 --> 01:18:07.680
is your Lord and Xavier, and you've got these prosperity

1471
01:18:07.960 --> 01:18:12.800
gospel merchants out there selling this false gospel and they're

1472
01:18:12.880 --> 01:18:15.720
raising tons of money, living in big houses and driving

1473
01:18:16.000 --> 01:18:18.359
you know how many luxurious automobile. I don't know how

1474
01:18:18.359 --> 01:18:19.840
you can drive more than one at a time, but

1475
01:18:19.920 --> 01:18:22.760
they have a man they've managed to buy up a

1476
01:18:22.840 --> 01:18:27.000
fleet at the expense of these people who buy into

1477
01:18:27.560 --> 01:18:32.680
their faux gospel message, which, like I said, you know,

1478
01:18:32.760 --> 01:18:35.800
God does not like to be misrepresented, and this could

1479
01:18:35.800 --> 01:18:39.720
be a problem for them down the road lest they

1480
01:18:39.800 --> 01:18:42.319
change their ways, because you know, you got people who

1481
01:18:42.399 --> 01:18:45.119
are giving. Like there's one story that was shared with

1482
01:18:45.199 --> 01:18:48.399
me about a woman who was I mean, she gave

1483
01:18:48.399 --> 01:18:51.640
her last thousand dollars so to speak, and just thinking, okay,

1484
01:18:51.680 --> 01:18:54.520
if she believed enough and really you know, just put

1485
01:18:54.560 --> 01:18:56.319
it all on the line and gave it all to

1486
01:18:56.439 --> 01:19:01.079
this you know, prosperity gospel merchant that you know her

1487
01:19:01.119 --> 01:19:03.560
her life would turn around. Well, she gave up her

1488
01:19:03.640 --> 01:19:05.960
last thousand dollars and guess what, it didn't turn around.

1489
01:19:06.680 --> 01:19:06.920
Yeah.

1490
01:19:07.159 --> 01:19:10.800
Yeah, And this is just one of many stories in

1491
01:19:10.840 --> 01:19:13.960
the Naked City. This isn't just a unique case. This

1492
01:19:14.000 --> 01:19:17.680
has happened time and time again. So again, everything about

1493
01:19:17.680 --> 01:19:19.199
this show, what we try to do is bring the

1494
01:19:19.239 --> 01:19:21.560
truth to you and then it's up to you to decide.

1495
01:19:21.600 --> 01:19:23.720
You've got to own your own knowledge, do your own homework,

1496
01:19:23.800 --> 01:19:27.159
check it out, and you know, so that you will

1497
01:19:27.159 --> 01:19:32.279
not be duped by all these you know, these purveyors

1498
01:19:32.319 --> 01:19:35.760
of lies, because that's what's been running amok. And it's

1499
01:19:35.760 --> 01:19:38.319
also why at the same time, Scott and I'm encouraged

1500
01:19:38.680 --> 01:19:41.079
is that you have truth rising focus in the Famili's

1501
01:19:41.079 --> 01:19:43.720
got a new series out, a new documentary called Truth Rising,

1502
01:19:44.199 --> 01:19:46.920
and you know, this is starting to happen. I think

1503
01:19:46.960 --> 01:19:49.560
we've had enough of the lies where it's starting to go.

1504
01:19:49.640 --> 01:19:53.119
But like in the Bible, it talks about wheats and terres,

1505
01:19:53.319 --> 01:19:55.560
they're gonna grow together. So you're gonna have truth, You're

1506
01:19:55.600 --> 01:19:58.319
gonna have lies, but you so because they're all going

1507
01:19:58.399 --> 01:20:01.439
to grow together. It it moves you to know the difference.

1508
01:20:01.159 --> 01:20:06.279
Right, absolutely, absolutely, absolutely no. The truth will set you free,

1509
01:20:06.960 --> 01:20:10.399
and we should never forget that that we need to

1510
01:20:10.439 --> 01:20:13.479
be grounded in the truth, both for our personal lives

1511
01:20:13.479 --> 01:20:16.720
but also for our nation. And we are very blessed

1512
01:20:16.760 --> 01:20:20.319
to have the Constitution because you know, a lot of

1513
01:20:20.319 --> 01:20:23.600
people don't realize that one of the chief virtues of

1514
01:20:23.640 --> 01:20:29.079
the Constitution is that the founders recognized that that power

1515
01:20:29.520 --> 01:20:32.119
would always have a tendency to corrupt, to corrupt the

1516
01:20:32.119 --> 01:20:35.560
people that had the power. So they created a system

1517
01:20:35.600 --> 01:20:39.880
of checks and balances, a federal system where states and

1518
01:20:40.880 --> 01:20:43.680
would have more power than the federal government, or there'd

1519
01:20:43.720 --> 01:20:46.359
be a you know, a check from the states to

1520
01:20:46.399 --> 01:20:48.680
the federal government. And then we have frequent elections so

1521
01:20:48.720 --> 01:20:52.159
that every two years we're actually able to throw the

1522
01:20:52.279 --> 01:20:57.840
charlatans and the corrupt legislators out of office. We're able

1523
01:20:57.880 --> 01:21:00.119
to throw a third of the Senate, but we every

1524
01:21:00.199 --> 01:21:04.640
every two years. The health of representatives is up. Problem is,

1525
01:21:04.680 --> 01:21:07.439
of course, is that people are not paying attention, and

1526
01:21:08.079 --> 01:21:11.800
that the elected officials have have this you know what

1527
01:21:11.800 --> 01:21:15.479
do they call it fracking privilege where they of course

1528
01:21:15.479 --> 01:21:19.479
they can send out their their their mail is free,

1529
01:21:20.039 --> 01:21:26.600
and they position themselves as being uh, you know, serving

1530
01:21:26.640 --> 01:21:29.239
the interests of their constituents, when in fact, so often

1531
01:21:29.279 --> 01:21:31.760
they're not serving their the interests of their well.

1532
01:21:31.880 --> 01:21:34.119
Fix the fix is in, I mean that that's the deal.

1533
01:21:34.479 --> 01:21:37.600
When when they're told in day one that their number

1534
01:21:37.640 --> 01:21:41.039
one job is to get re elected, the constituents' desires

1535
01:21:41.039 --> 01:21:44.439
are subordinated to their own personal desires and that's the

1536
01:21:44.439 --> 01:21:46.920
bottom line of all. This is what's happened is our

1537
01:21:47.000 --> 01:21:50.600
society has become so self centered and our government has

1538
01:21:50.640 --> 01:21:54.079
become so self centered. This is what's being manifest right now.

1539
01:21:54.319 --> 01:21:57.000
But you see, if you don't know the difference between

1540
01:21:57.279 --> 01:22:01.960
good government and bad government, you're willing to settle right.

1541
01:22:02.079 --> 01:22:05.000
Oh absolutely, I mean I think there's a huge amount

1542
01:22:05.000 --> 01:22:09.159
of cynicism about government, and that's that's good, that's a

1543
01:22:09.199 --> 01:22:12.000
good sign in our society. But we've got to we've

1544
01:22:12.000 --> 01:22:15.840
got to go beyond cynicism and really figure out what

1545
01:22:16.279 --> 01:22:20.560
we need to do to bring correctives. And we need

1546
01:22:20.560 --> 01:22:26.760
to elect people that we really understand are committed to

1547
01:22:26.880 --> 01:22:31.439
the cause of the constitution and the future of our country.

1548
01:22:32.199 --> 01:22:34.560
Well, our constitution puts the onus right where it belongs

1549
01:22:34.600 --> 01:22:35.560
on we the people, Scott.

1550
01:22:35.640 --> 01:22:36.039
That's right.

1551
01:22:36.199 --> 01:22:38.000
We the people aren't going to be educated, We're not

1552
01:22:38.039 --> 01:22:41.479
going to be informed, and we're just going to accept mediocrity. Well,

1553
01:22:41.479 --> 01:22:45.399
look at you get what you expect. Well, we got

1554
01:22:45.399 --> 01:22:47.640
to leave it there to be continued because this is

1555
01:22:47.680 --> 01:22:50.920
a critical issue, I believe for this time, this time

1556
01:22:50.960 --> 01:22:53.640
and season. Scott, the Constitution, and thank you so much.

1557
01:22:53.680 --> 01:22:56.600
For your focus on that. Scott Powell is the author,

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01:22:56.680 --> 01:22:59.039
member of the Committee on Present Danger China, and a

1559
01:22:59.079 --> 01:23:02.520
senior Fellow at the Discovery Institute. Mister Scott Palell, thank

1560
01:23:02.520 --> 01:23:04.760
you so much, appreciate you, Thank you. Bill.

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Welcome morning, Welcome back Bill Martinez here. Great to have

1615
01:26:15.640 --> 01:26:18.399
you with us, and also especially great to have my

1616
01:26:18.439 --> 01:26:21.600
good friend Chris Whittington join us now. Hey, Chris, how

1617
01:26:21.600 --> 01:26:24.039
you doing, Bill?

1618
01:26:24.479 --> 01:26:27.520
I'm doing great, my brother, how are you? Hey?

1619
01:26:27.600 --> 01:26:30.159
I'm I'm honored to have you on the show here,

1620
01:26:30.239 --> 01:26:32.239
so we can, you know, brag on you a little

1621
01:26:32.239 --> 01:26:35.439
bit and appreciate all the great new things that you're doing.

1622
01:26:36.399 --> 01:26:40.199
You know. Chris, by the way, ladies gentlemen, is a singer, songwriter,

1623
01:26:40.279 --> 01:26:44.159
worship leader, Texas based still industry executive. I mean like

1624
01:26:44.199 --> 01:26:46.880
as if he doesn't have enough canvases to paint and

1625
01:26:46.920 --> 01:26:50.720
work with, he just keeps on expanding and uh and

1626
01:26:50.840 --> 01:26:53.199
just trusting that God will supply all our needs.

1627
01:26:53.279 --> 01:26:56.359
Right, Chris, That's that's That's exactly it, my friend.

1628
01:26:56.840 --> 01:27:00.079
Well, uh, well, I want to talk about you know

1629
01:27:00.359 --> 01:27:04.520
that particular song which is all part of this project,

1630
01:27:04.600 --> 01:27:07.960
newly released project that you released earlier this year, the

1631
01:27:08.119 --> 01:27:12.680
Bright Portal ten year Anniversary Edition. Now this is newly

1632
01:27:13.000 --> 01:27:19.920
remastered and reimagined this version of your critically acclaimed debut album,

1633
01:27:20.159 --> 01:27:20.840
Bright Portal.

1634
01:27:20.920 --> 01:27:25.279
Right, that's a man, you know your stuff, Bill Martinez.

1635
01:27:26.239 --> 01:27:31.199
That's all true. We've had a lot of fun reimagining

1636
01:27:31.239 --> 01:27:35.359
this record. We've even added I don't want to preempt you.

1637
01:27:35.760 --> 01:27:40.000
It's even got an additional new track added so yeah,

1638
01:27:40.119 --> 01:27:43.199
it's been a labor of love truly.

1639
01:27:43.760 --> 01:27:45.800
Well, why did you decide to do this? I think

1640
01:27:45.840 --> 01:27:48.279
sometimes it's a bit of a challenge when you have

1641
01:27:48.399 --> 01:27:51.920
something as good as Bright Portal was and so highly

1642
01:27:51.920 --> 01:27:55.159
acclaimed ten years ago, but you took it, you took

1643
01:27:55.199 --> 01:27:57.840
a second look and said, Okay, maybe we need to

1644
01:27:57.880 --> 01:28:00.880
reopen this a little bit and reimagine it and we

1645
01:28:00.920 --> 01:28:04.520
can bring a you know, uh, maybe a little bit

1646
01:28:04.520 --> 01:28:07.319
of a different perspective and you know that sort of thing.

1647
01:28:07.319 --> 01:28:10.920
But that sometimes it's tough for creative people to do, right.

1648
01:28:11.560 --> 01:28:15.960
Yeah, yeah, no, that's that's all very true. You know,

1649
01:28:16.199 --> 01:28:19.399
there have been there were two major forces driving the

1650
01:28:19.880 --> 01:28:25.920
reimagining the remastering of this record, of this album Bright Portal.

1651
01:28:26.760 --> 01:28:29.600
One is that in the ten years eleven years, I

1652
01:28:29.640 --> 01:28:32.399
think now where we're going on it since the album

1653
01:28:32.840 --> 01:28:37.119
was originally released, Bill, I've had a lot of opportunities

1654
01:28:37.159 --> 01:28:41.840
in that time to hear from people in social media,

1655
01:28:42.279 --> 01:28:47.800
people I go to church with friends, family acquaintances that

1656
01:28:47.960 --> 01:28:51.760
the songs on that album have really resonated with them,

1657
01:28:51.800 --> 01:28:55.039
and that's a So that's been a big driver to

1658
01:28:55.319 --> 01:28:59.159
uh to say, hey, let's, uh, let's remaster this album

1659
01:28:59.159 --> 01:29:02.079
and put it back out. The other big driving force.

1660
01:29:02.159 --> 01:29:05.479
There were other factors, but the biggest one, after the

1661
01:29:06.359 --> 01:29:09.239
learning that the songs have really hit home with people,

1662
01:29:09.520 --> 01:29:13.920
is just I'd always felt like the album could sound

1663
01:29:13.960 --> 01:29:19.479
a little better, and so that's what people typically go for.

1664
01:29:19.840 --> 01:29:21.680
I mean, you see this a lot these days. You

1665
01:29:21.720 --> 01:29:26.239
see really old records, right, twenty thirty, forty fifty year

1666
01:29:26.279 --> 01:29:31.680
old albums that are being remastered, and it's to apply

1667
01:29:31.920 --> 01:29:34.880
current technology to the mixic, to the sound of it.

1668
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You know all about that, and so I had thought,

1669
01:29:38.039 --> 01:29:40.520
even in the mirror eleven years, ten years, I guess

1670
01:29:40.600 --> 01:29:44.239
at the time that this album probably could sound a

1671
01:29:44.279 --> 01:29:49.520
little better. And so we were able to employ the

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01:29:49.600 --> 01:29:54.560
terrific talents of our great friend Bob Boyd Ambient Digital.

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His company. He's done work from some big artists, you

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two and people, a lot of Christian artists also, but

1675
01:30:03.479 --> 01:30:08.520
he's our friend and agreed to remastering A Bright Portal,

1676
01:30:09.199 --> 01:30:12.600
and you know, he did exactly what I'd hoped for,

1677
01:30:12.760 --> 01:30:15.640
Bill and Moore of the album, You're right, the album

1678
01:30:15.720 --> 01:30:19.359
did not sound bad before. It really didn't. We met,

1679
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We had a lot of people tell us, man, this

1680
01:30:21.159 --> 01:30:23.800
is a good sounding record. I just felt like it

1681
01:30:23.800 --> 01:30:27.600
could be better, and Bob Boyd has brought that exactly

1682
01:30:27.720 --> 01:30:31.079
to the project. It does sound better, he brought forth.

1683
01:30:32.359 --> 01:30:35.760
And if people are curious at all in remastering, sometimes

1684
01:30:35.760 --> 01:30:38.039
you can get It doesn't always happen, but sometimes in

1685
01:30:38.079 --> 01:30:41.279
our case it did. You can have There are parts

1686
01:30:41.279 --> 01:30:43.960
that I'd forgotten we'd recorded on this thing because it

1687
01:30:44.000 --> 01:30:48.600
been ten years. Yeah, yeah, that Bob and is remastering

1688
01:30:48.760 --> 01:30:51.199
kind of pulled forward in the mix and oh, well,

1689
01:30:51.319 --> 01:30:53.399
I forgot we did this. I forgot we did that.

1690
01:30:53.399 --> 01:30:58.399
That sounds really good. So if you had the album before,

1691
01:30:59.159 --> 01:31:03.079
just you know, not twisting anybody's arm, but if you

1692
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like things like that, if you like to hear things

1693
01:31:06.680 --> 01:31:09.600
change in in my opinion, for the better, you'll want

1694
01:31:09.640 --> 01:31:11.319
to pick this up. Well.

1695
01:31:11.359 --> 01:31:14.239
And as you said, you know with Boyd's genius, I mean,

1696
01:31:14.399 --> 01:31:18.760
my goodness, he's a three time Grammy dub Juno Award winner.

1697
01:31:19.000 --> 01:31:22.640
I'm telling you he's the best. Bill, thank you for

1698
01:31:22.720 --> 01:31:26.520
saying that. He really is. We're and been our friend

1699
01:31:27.960 --> 01:31:33.079
since we all worked together back at Second Baptist Megachurch

1700
01:31:33.119 --> 01:31:35.920
in Houston a lot of years ago. Along with Cagman's

1701
01:31:35.960 --> 01:31:38.880
call and all those great people.

1702
01:31:39.880 --> 01:31:42.039
Yeah. Well, and it's a lot of fun too, because

1703
01:31:42.079 --> 01:31:44.600
when you get back and you get those original recordings

1704
01:31:44.800 --> 01:31:48.239
and you start opening up some of these you know

1705
01:31:48.399 --> 01:31:51.119
channels that you know back then, you know, ten years

1706
01:31:51.119 --> 01:31:53.720
eleven years ago, somebody said, okay, we can you know,

1707
01:31:53.800 --> 01:31:56.880
let's let's mute this one. We're going to highlight this other.

1708
01:31:57.199 --> 01:32:00.279
And all of a sudden, now you're hearing with new

1709
01:32:00.359 --> 01:32:03.880
ears and you go, wow, how did we miss How

1710
01:32:03.880 --> 01:32:06.960
did we miss this? I think I think, I think

1711
01:32:07.000 --> 01:32:10.319
I shared with you the story. I was really blessed

1712
01:32:10.439 --> 01:32:16.279
uh to uh meet up with Keith Green's father. He

1713
01:32:16.319 --> 01:32:21.159
gave us uh some masters to listen to. And because

1714
01:32:21.199 --> 01:32:24.560
I had this vision of doing Keith's story and it's

1715
01:32:24.600 --> 01:32:26.840
still there, God still wakes me up in the middle

1716
01:32:26.880 --> 01:32:28.399
of nights is and I go, well, God, you got

1717
01:32:28.439 --> 01:32:31.600
to bring people into my orbits, make us happen, because

1718
01:32:31.640 --> 01:32:34.279
I just have really believed in Keith Green's story and

1719
01:32:34.359 --> 01:32:38.000
his genius. And so anyway, we go in the studio

1720
01:32:38.159 --> 01:32:40.199
and we we put it on the machine and we

1721
01:32:40.239 --> 01:32:45.000
start opening up these tracks that had been stifled, and

1722
01:32:45.359 --> 01:32:50.119
my good and we had some really top notch you

1723
01:32:50.119 --> 01:32:55.159
know musicians they just said, this guy's doing stuff. You know,

1724
01:32:55.760 --> 01:33:00.560
his core changes, his subtleties are so genius. You know,

1725
01:33:00.600 --> 01:33:03.479
they were just in absolute awe. And it was just

1726
01:33:03.520 --> 01:33:06.479
such an honor because I feel like when you are,

1727
01:33:07.359 --> 01:33:12.000
you know, associating yourself with something so personal and creative

1728
01:33:12.000 --> 01:33:14.880
genius like this, that you're really on hallowed ground. And

1729
01:33:14.880 --> 01:33:17.680
it was such a blessing to be able to experience that.

1730
01:33:17.800 --> 01:33:19.319
So I got to imagine.

1731
01:33:19.000 --> 01:33:21.560
A little incredible story, you know.

1732
01:33:21.720 --> 01:33:24.000
Is what you what you guys went through as you're

1733
01:33:24.039 --> 01:33:26.840
looking back, you know, eleven years and going wow, this

1734
01:33:26.960 --> 01:33:29.560
is cool and and uh and to have a chance

1735
01:33:29.600 --> 01:33:33.199
to kind of, as you say, reimagine, yeah, this whole thing.

1736
01:33:33.279 --> 01:33:34.319
So what a blessing.

1737
01:33:34.920 --> 01:33:38.000
I'm telling you, it's it's a privilege. And hearing you

1738
01:33:39.600 --> 01:33:42.880
tell the story, the Keith Green story. And by the way,

1739
01:33:43.119 --> 01:33:46.199
ever since you told me that, I've been praying that God,

1740
01:33:46.319 --> 01:33:49.680
will you know, bless you and give that project the

1741
01:33:49.760 --> 01:33:54.000
light of day very soon. But but it becomes a privilege,

1742
01:33:54.039 --> 01:33:56.479
didn't it, Bill? I mean to get to to get

1743
01:33:56.520 --> 01:33:59.800
to yeah, to be in the presence of Look, go

1744
01:34:00.079 --> 01:34:03.840
U is the giver of all good gifts, right, including

1745
01:34:03.880 --> 01:34:07.439
the talents that he loans to men and women, and

1746
01:34:07.479 --> 01:34:09.920
then the courage. He also gives us a gift to

1747
01:34:10.039 --> 01:34:13.239
deal and develop. The talents are only the talents until

1748
01:34:13.319 --> 01:34:15.800
we get up and work on them and develop them.

1749
01:34:16.199 --> 01:34:18.359
You know that better than a lot of people do.

1750
01:34:18.880 --> 01:34:20.840
You've been at this for quite some time and you're

1751
01:34:20.880 --> 01:34:22.800
at the top of the game. Now. Well, that didn't

1752
01:34:22.840 --> 01:34:26.039
happen by accident. That happened through many years and hours

1753
01:34:26.039 --> 01:34:29.359
and hours of work and figuring out what worked and

1754
01:34:29.399 --> 01:34:33.039
what didn't. It's the same thing. And virtually all of

1755
01:34:33.079 --> 01:34:37.399
our labors, work our works also being gifts from God. Right,

1756
01:34:37.680 --> 01:34:40.640
Adam and Eve were charged with working in the garden

1757
01:34:40.760 --> 01:34:43.880
before the fall. That's that's something that I think about

1758
01:34:43.920 --> 01:34:48.239
a lot. And anyway, it becomes a privilege to work

1759
01:34:48.319 --> 01:34:51.279
with talented people. I'm with you. I'm picking up what

1760
01:34:51.319 --> 01:34:54.399
you're putting down. It's a it's it's here. You are

1761
01:34:54.479 --> 01:34:57.680
in awe and uh and you just happy, happy to

1762
01:34:57.720 --> 01:34:58.920
be some small part of it.

1763
01:34:59.039 --> 01:35:02.479
Right, yeah, exactly. Uh, you know, and what you just

1764
01:35:02.520 --> 01:35:06.439
shared is wisdom and for the young people, and you know,

1765
01:35:06.479 --> 01:35:08.560
maybe even parents and says, look and my son needs

1766
01:35:08.600 --> 01:35:10.159
to hear this, and my daughter needs to hear this.

1767
01:35:10.680 --> 01:35:15.119
Understand that, as you said so appropriately is giftings and

1768
01:35:15.199 --> 01:35:20.159
talents are from God. And where we get frustrated is

1769
01:35:20.159 --> 01:35:23.319
when those giftings and talents I always said are not

1770
01:35:23.439 --> 01:35:24.840
being exercised and grown.

1771
01:35:25.680 --> 01:35:27.920
Yes, there you go, the same thing as I said

1772
01:35:27.920 --> 01:35:30.239
about developing. That is exactly the same.

1773
01:35:30.039 --> 01:35:34.600
Point, right, And so when that is happening you you're

1774
01:35:34.640 --> 01:35:37.520
a happy camper. You know, you may not already be

1775
01:35:37.600 --> 01:35:40.439
at the top, but it's just that you are. You

1776
01:35:40.520 --> 01:35:43.880
are in rhythm with God designed for your life.

1777
01:35:44.319 --> 01:35:47.800
Huggle struggle is real, right Bill, Yeah, I mean exactly.

1778
01:35:47.800 --> 01:35:51.600
That's a cliche thing in our culture currently, but it

1779
01:35:51.640 --> 01:35:56.359
really does reflect the truth. Uh. I struggle with patience

1780
01:35:57.520 --> 01:36:01.079
as as I know a lot of people do. As Christians,

1781
01:36:01.319 --> 01:36:04.800
we don't stop being sinners. I'm still a sinner, so

1782
01:36:04.880 --> 01:36:06.359
are you. So is every Christian.

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01:36:06.640 --> 01:36:08.800
I'll tell you what. Let's hit the pause button, go back,

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Weddington his new remastered Genius Bright portal. Uh but Chris,

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before the break, I'm sorry, sorry I cut you off.

1866
01:40:28.920 --> 01:40:32.199
There no problem in the middle of your confession of

1867
01:40:32.239 --> 01:40:34.840
being a sinner. Uh, you know when we all feel

1868
01:40:34.840 --> 01:40:36.960
sorry for you, because like you're the only one you.

1869
01:40:36.920 --> 01:40:43.159
Know exactly feel sorry for me. I'm a victim.

1870
01:40:43.359 --> 01:40:46.439
Oh, thank thank, thank you Jesus for your grace.

1871
01:40:46.199 --> 01:40:50.319
And yeah, amen, and his mercies that are new every morning. Bill,

1872
01:40:50.399 --> 01:40:55.319
Now you're gonna make me cry that how incredible is

1873
01:40:55.359 --> 01:41:00.960
that the God's mercies are for us? They're new every morning.

1874
01:41:01.479 --> 01:41:03.439
And let me tell you, as a as a as

1875
01:41:03.479 --> 01:41:06.840
a sinner, I am utterly and totally dependent on the

1876
01:41:06.840 --> 01:41:10.479
fact on that truth, right, each one of us is

1877
01:41:10.600 --> 01:41:15.119
He's He hasn't chosen to give me what I deserve. Yeah,

1878
01:41:15.319 --> 01:41:19.640
Fortunately He's chosen of much better faith for us as Christians,

1879
01:41:19.920 --> 01:41:22.199
and the one one that we cannot and will not

1880
01:41:22.359 --> 01:41:25.000
ever earn or deserve. I get up and thank God.

1881
01:41:25.119 --> 01:41:28.159
That's how I start my prayers every morning. Thank you

1882
01:41:28.239 --> 01:41:30.720
God for not giving me what I deserve. But by

1883
01:41:30.760 --> 01:41:36.760
your grace and mercy, you know, I get to enjoy,

1884
01:41:37.000 --> 01:41:40.239
you know, the life after this one, which you know

1885
01:41:40.319 --> 01:41:43.880
this this life is not the end. Right, Yes, we

1886
01:41:44.319 --> 01:41:49.039
will live forever, but but you know we even in

1887
01:41:49.119 --> 01:41:53.199
this life, we're looking forward to taking those talents which

1888
01:41:53.199 --> 01:41:56.159
God has loaned to us and developing them. As you said,

1889
01:41:56.600 --> 01:41:59.600
you and I said, and uh, but but the struggle

1890
01:41:59.640 --> 01:42:04.079
in that, you know, it's what we're meant for. As

1891
01:42:04.119 --> 01:42:07.960
a young person, you mentioned maybe parents wanted to be

1892
01:42:08.239 --> 01:42:12.239
looking for encouragement for their kids. Yeah, as a sixteen

1893
01:42:12.319 --> 01:42:16.079
year old, Pardon me, boy, did I not understand that

1894
01:42:17.760 --> 01:42:19.640
I was a God had saved me. I was a

1895
01:42:19.720 --> 01:42:22.279
Christian at that point. But you know, you're young and

1896
01:42:22.960 --> 01:42:26.039
you think you know more than you do, and it's

1897
01:42:26.079 --> 01:42:31.079
a common malady. And so anyway, I think I kind

1898
01:42:31.079 --> 01:42:34.439
of lost my Oh, just as far as the struggle

1899
01:42:34.600 --> 01:42:39.560
of developing the talents, you know, it's it is what

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we were meant to do, and each of our sanctifications

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01:42:43.119 --> 01:42:47.479
as Christians, sanctification being a fancy theological term for God

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01:42:47.600 --> 01:42:52.359
making us like Christ. That is happening. That is happening

1903
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right now while you and I are talking to you

1904
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and to me and to every Christian. You can't stop it. God,

1905
01:43:00.000 --> 01:43:04.399
God sanctifying you and making you, remaking you into the

1906
01:43:04.399 --> 01:43:08.720
image of Christ. We do have a responsibility in that.

1907
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That's a mystery, right where does God's you know, soorvereign

1908
01:43:14.000 --> 01:43:19.239
work leave off and my responsible my responsibility to add

1909
01:43:19.279 --> 01:43:23.800
to that work pick up? I don't know. I've read

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01:43:23.880 --> 01:43:27.520
plenty of books and talked to plenty of theologians, and

1911
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we're all searching for that answer. But we do know

1912
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it's true. You know that God is at work in us,

1913
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both to will and to do of His good pleasure,

1914
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and separately that we are being changed from glory to glory.

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Those are straight from the mouth of God in his work.

1916
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Those aren't my opinion or your opinion. So that sanctification

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is always happening. So yeah, to sum that up, it's

1918
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great to be to have talents and to recognize that

1919
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you've been given them. But if you sit around and

1920
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don't work on them, not really doing yourself any favors,

1921
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and you're not glorifying God. You got to get after it,

1922
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find a way to find somebody who's better than you

1923
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and attach yourself to them. Learn from them like an apprentice,

1924
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work on it, get better at it. That's the only

1925
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thing that glorifies.

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God, right and being in communion with God. And I'm

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glad you said and specifically said sovereignty because that is

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the battle that you know we live with since the

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Garden of Eden. Yes, you know it's like, well, God,

1930
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God is sovereign. Am I going to bend my knee

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to God and subordinate my individual interests to God's higher calling?

1932
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And we know by experience, we know those times when

1933
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we do, and we also know those times that we don't,

1934
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and we find ourselves like like David crying out, God,

1935
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please don't take your Holy Spirit away from.

1936
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Me, right, creating me a clean heart of God? Yeah, yeah,

1937
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taking the Holy Spirit from me, draw into me the

1938
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joy of my salvation, and renew a right spirit within me.

1939
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Oh man man, then utterly dependent on God's grace. I

1940
01:45:09.960 --> 01:45:13.199
have blown it, I am blowing it. I will blow it,

1941
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and said dumb word for sin. But and yet He

1942
01:45:17.760 --> 01:45:21.760
is ever there, ever present. It's not like God doesn't

1943
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know us, right. He knows our shortcomings. He knows our failings,

1944
01:45:27.760 --> 01:45:30.399
and yet he takes our sins and cast them as

1945
01:45:30.439 --> 01:45:34.319
far as the east is from the west. So acknowledging

1946
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that he knows my sins shouldn't put me into a

1947
01:45:38.600 --> 01:45:42.000
funk or a depression. If I'm remembering that he also

1948
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cast them as far as the east is from the west,

1949
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and that His mercies are new every day, then I

1950
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can rejoice and get up and lift up my head

1951
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and look forward to all that God has for me

1952
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on this day.

1953
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How liberating is it, Chris, when you have that kind

1954
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of communion with God, to say, God, you know what

1955
01:46:00.239 --> 01:46:01.880
this sucks? I mean, this is hard.

1956
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Yes, it just does. I'm not going to lie to

1957
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you God.

1958
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Right, and just lay it out. And I remember the

1959
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first time I had that conversation with God. Maybe because

1960
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of my Catholic upbringing and guilt, you know, right, Oh gosh,

1961
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here comes a bolt of lightning. But it was all

1962
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of a sudden, it was just like you felt this

1963
01:46:21.920 --> 01:46:25.159
liberation and this connection with God at a level that

1964
01:46:25.239 --> 01:46:28.079
I never felt before. Because I had to tell God,

1965
01:46:28.119 --> 01:46:30.119
I said, look at it. I'm sorry. I just can't.

1966
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I can't say your kingdom come here, will be done

1967
01:46:33.600 --> 01:46:36.479
right now? You just put me through refiners fire and

1968
01:46:36.520 --> 01:46:40.079
you cooked me. You know, I need a breath. Can

1969
01:46:40.119 --> 01:46:41.079
I have a breath here?

1970
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Yeah, can take a break from from your judgment. And

1971
01:46:44.720 --> 01:46:47.640
that's what it is, right right right, But but but

1972
01:46:47.640 --> 01:46:51.920
but you know the world gets it wrong by saying

1973
01:46:52.720 --> 01:46:55.720
you know, they'll acknowledge the more honest ones what you

1974
01:46:55.800 --> 01:47:00.119
just said. But but for those who don't underst to

1975
01:47:00.199 --> 01:47:04.600
end these truths, that's the end. God is that old

1976
01:47:04.680 --> 01:47:07.680
man with the beard and the whip, just waiting for

1977
01:47:07.760 --> 01:47:10.319
you and I to step one toe. Don't even have

1978
01:47:10.359 --> 01:47:12.600
to cross the line, just get close to the line.

1979
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Wha you know? And that that's of course not true.

1980
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There is his judgment, but it's too again in our sanctifications,

1981
01:47:22.159 --> 01:47:25.960
make us more like Jesus, which will ultimately glorify him

1982
01:47:26.479 --> 01:47:31.039
and be be a bummer a drag. No, it's you

1983
01:47:31.159 --> 01:47:34.960
said it. It's liberating, yes, becoming all that I and

1984
01:47:35.000 --> 01:47:37.279
you and I were meant to be. There is no

1985
01:47:37.560 --> 01:47:41.199
that is the only liberation, becoming all that God created

1986
01:47:41.279 --> 01:47:44.199
us to be. The world says, it's it's the ability

1987
01:47:44.319 --> 01:47:47.600
to come and go and do whatever I feel like

1988
01:47:47.760 --> 01:47:51.159
doing when I want to. That's freedom, the world says.

1989
01:47:51.439 --> 01:47:57.800
But as Christians, we know that's not true. Right. Our true,

1990
01:47:57.880 --> 01:48:01.239
our true freedom is to be to become all that

1991
01:48:01.279 --> 01:48:01.960
He made us to be.

1992
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Amen. Uh the bonus track that we mentioned, God will

1993
01:48:05.800 --> 01:48:09.640
supply all our needs. This is real personal to you.

1994
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It is tell our audience about this. Let's let's here,

1995
01:48:14.159 --> 01:48:16.600
you know, talk about from whence you came.

1996
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Yeah, well, I appreciate the opportunity. Bill love that, thank you.

1997
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It's kind of twofold. I mean it does reflect the

1998
01:48:29.279 --> 01:48:35.800
uh my own personal history from childhood about age eleven,

1999
01:48:35.920 --> 01:48:39.479
my parents it was discovered that my dad was in

2000
01:48:39.520 --> 01:48:44.880
an adulterous affair, and uh, our whole world, I and

2001
01:48:45.000 --> 01:48:47.520
my five siblings and my poor little mother of her

2002
01:48:47.600 --> 01:48:51.880
whole world can crashing down. Uh there was it was.

2003
01:48:51.920 --> 01:48:58.119
There was an acrimonious divorce, and uh we were plunged

2004
01:48:58.960 --> 01:49:05.239
into a deep poverty practically overnight. So that speaks to it. Also,

2005
01:49:05.359 --> 01:49:09.920
I was working in a large megachurch in Houston at

2006
01:49:09.920 --> 01:49:13.800
the time of the eight to nine financial meltdown in

2007
01:49:13.880 --> 01:49:17.399
the world, in this country, and a lot of people

2008
01:49:17.479 --> 01:49:21.520
were struggling a little bit like they are now even

2009
01:49:21.560 --> 01:49:24.760
in this economy, but at the time it was really bad,

2010
01:49:24.840 --> 01:49:26.560
and I saw a lot of my friends and people

2011
01:49:26.600 --> 01:49:29.600
I went to church with who I loved very much,

2012
01:49:30.000 --> 01:49:34.359
hurting and struggling, and so and so I took you know,

2013
01:49:34.399 --> 01:49:39.600
I took that scripture from Mark that consider the birds

2014
01:49:39.640 --> 01:49:41.439
of the air and the lilies of the field, how

2015
01:49:41.479 --> 01:49:44.760
God I'm paraphrasing that, how God takes care of them

2016
01:49:45.800 --> 01:49:50.039
and they're not even people. Is the implication you are

2017
01:49:50.159 --> 01:49:53.600
his child. Of course He's taking care of you. I've

2018
01:49:53.640 --> 01:49:57.399
never missed a meal bill, and during those dark days,

2019
01:49:58.880 --> 01:50:01.920
I've always had a roof of my head. You know,

2020
01:50:02.199 --> 01:50:04.680
maybe I wasn't as comfortable as the world told me

2021
01:50:04.800 --> 01:50:10.279
I deserve to be, which I've learned is also a misnomer, uh,

2022
01:50:10.520 --> 01:50:15.079
for the reasons we discussed earlier. But but anyway, Yeah,

2023
01:50:15.239 --> 01:50:21.239
that's those two events largely informed my writing. God will

2024
01:50:21.279 --> 01:50:23.840
supply all our needs.

2025
01:50:23.239 --> 01:50:26.000
Well, and it's such a such a blessing and it's

2026
01:50:26.039 --> 01:50:29.840
so relatable because as you said, uh, what happened in

2027
01:50:30.000 --> 01:50:32.720
eight what happened in COVID? What you know, the yes,

2028
01:50:33.600 --> 01:50:37.119
highs and lows that we've gone through in the recent decades. Uh,

2029
01:50:37.800 --> 01:50:41.600
you know, again, are we going to rely on our

2030
01:50:41.640 --> 01:50:44.760
own understanding or are we going to rely on the

2031
01:50:44.800 --> 01:50:48.359
sovereignty of God? And when we look back and we

2032
01:50:48.399 --> 01:50:52.359
see God's sovereignty operating in our life, that then we

2033
01:50:52.399 --> 01:50:54.960
get back to being free again. Right. I mean that

2034
01:50:55.039 --> 01:50:57.479
Jesus came, Jesus came to liberate us.

2035
01:50:57.800 --> 01:51:01.399
That's it. It's it's it's humbling, isn't it. I mean,

2036
01:51:01.560 --> 01:51:04.680
you can have you can have as a Christian if

2037
01:51:04.720 --> 01:51:07.880
God has saved you. There is no other honest reaction

2038
01:51:08.039 --> 01:51:12.159
to that but humility to see that we stand before

2039
01:51:12.840 --> 01:51:17.399
a kind and loving and just always kind, always generous,

2040
01:51:17.479 --> 01:51:21.680
and always just. We forget that last part because we

2041
01:51:21.720 --> 01:51:23.840
want them to be like us. We don't have the

2042
01:51:23.880 --> 01:51:26.800
ability to do all those things at once. But God

2043
01:51:26.840 --> 01:51:29.079
does the alone does, and.

2044
01:51:29.640 --> 01:51:33.800
We realize the joy of the Lord, which is our right.

2045
01:51:34.199 --> 01:51:36.720
I mean, there's something think about it. God's joy in

2046
01:51:36.840 --> 01:51:38.119
us is our strength.

2047
01:51:39.000 --> 01:51:43.000
Yes, exactly. In other words, we have none in and

2048
01:51:43.039 --> 01:51:47.159
of ourselves, just like I don't have the ability. How

2049
01:51:47.199 --> 01:51:51.600
can a lost creature save itself? I don't believe that's possible,

2050
01:51:52.159 --> 01:51:54.800
and I believe the Bible backs that up. So we

2051
01:51:54.840 --> 01:51:58.439
are utterly and completely dependent on we said this earlier,

2052
01:51:58.520 --> 01:52:01.920
upon the grace and mercy of the God to save us,

2053
01:52:02.039 --> 01:52:04.800
to care for us, to pour our fat out of

2054
01:52:04.800 --> 01:52:07.600
the fire when things get tough, to teach us what

2055
01:52:07.680 --> 01:52:10.600
he wants to us to know at any given time,

2056
01:52:11.119 --> 01:52:14.640
To struggle with the world system that's evil and corrupt,

2057
01:52:15.159 --> 01:52:18.640
and to overcome it because Christ has gone before us

2058
01:52:18.680 --> 01:52:23.199
and done all the overcoming. That's what the life of

2059
01:52:23.239 --> 01:52:26.880
a Christian is supposed to be about. Whoever's promising you

2060
01:52:27.399 --> 01:52:30.760
good times will never end and you'll live off the

2061
01:52:30.800 --> 01:52:35.560
fat of the land and drive escalades or whatever the

2062
01:52:35.640 --> 01:52:39.920
thing is you know the world tells you is success.

2063
01:52:40.800 --> 01:52:44.600
That's all not true, and it's a diversion and it's

2064
01:52:44.600 --> 01:52:48.039
from the devil, and the devil wants us to be

2065
01:52:48.119 --> 01:52:52.439
diverted and not walk through these fires and come out

2066
01:52:53.279 --> 01:52:54.920
as winters on the other side.

2067
01:52:55.680 --> 01:52:59.319
Well, there's no other agency that exists that can offer

2068
01:52:59.399 --> 01:53:00.479
us forgiveness.

2069
01:53:00.239 --> 01:53:02.560
Chris, No, none, you.

2070
01:53:02.560 --> 01:53:06.439
Think about that. I mean, that just overwhelms me to think. Okay,

2071
01:53:06.560 --> 01:53:09.279
I mean, why would you not choose God? He says,

2072
01:53:09.319 --> 01:53:12.199
look all forgive you. You know, as far as the

2073
01:53:12.199 --> 01:53:14.760
east is from the west is done.

2074
01:53:15.279 --> 01:53:20.439
Yeah, yeah, yeah, incredible, incredible reality. Hard to wrap our

2075
01:53:20.520 --> 01:53:26.159
minds around that completely. And that's okay. But that's also

2076
01:53:26.359 --> 01:53:29.760
I believe part of our sanctification. We're growing in the

2077
01:53:29.880 --> 01:53:35.399
knowledge you understand those things you probably look I'll speak

2078
01:53:35.439 --> 01:53:37.279
to me. I'm not going to sit here and look

2079
01:53:37.319 --> 01:53:39.359
it in the eyebill Martinez and't tell you that I

2080
01:53:39.439 --> 01:53:43.640
understand everything about what you just said. But I will

2081
01:53:43.640 --> 01:53:46.720
tell you that I do understand it a whole lot

2082
01:53:46.800 --> 01:53:49.960
better than I did twenty years ago. And that's through

2083
01:53:50.000 --> 01:53:54.000
Bible study. Weekly Bible studies I attend to a week

2084
01:53:54.079 --> 01:53:56.840
I have. I'm not better than anybody else. I'm not

2085
01:53:57.399 --> 01:54:00.840
trying to say that I'm not. I'm good. God knows

2086
01:54:00.880 --> 01:54:03.800
I am not more righteous than to anybody. I am

2087
01:54:03.840 --> 01:54:07.520
a sinner. But if you want this peace, if you

2088
01:54:07.600 --> 01:54:11.239
want the strength, if you want to be an overcomer

2089
01:54:11.319 --> 01:54:14.439
like God has promised you to be, there's only one

2090
01:54:14.479 --> 01:54:17.279
way to obtain that. As far as our part and

2091
01:54:17.319 --> 01:54:20.479
our responsibility that is to study and to know the

2092
01:54:20.479 --> 01:54:24.720
Word of God and Christians. And by the way, I

2093
01:54:24.760 --> 01:54:28.640
don't hold myself up as any great modicum of success

2094
01:54:28.680 --> 01:54:31.680
of that. I am struggling, like a lot of people

2095
01:54:31.760 --> 01:54:34.840
to learn and know the Word of God. But again,

2096
01:54:35.079 --> 01:54:38.239
I'm sorry for being a broken record. That's the point

2097
01:54:38.640 --> 01:54:41.680
that we struggle with it. The struggle is real, man,

2098
01:54:42.319 --> 01:54:44.840
We're supposed to struggle with it. And you know what

2099
01:54:45.039 --> 01:54:49.000
happens when we don't think we're learning and growing. We're

2100
01:54:49.079 --> 01:54:52.199
learning and growing and just wake up one day and go, well,

2101
01:54:53.840 --> 01:54:58.159
this thing about let's say God's sovereignty. I got a

2102
01:54:58.239 --> 01:55:00.119
much better handle on that than I used to. I

2103
01:55:00.159 --> 01:55:03.720
have a piece about that and the strength that comes

2104
01:55:03.720 --> 01:55:06.640
from that piece that I didn't have a long time ago.

2105
01:55:07.000 --> 01:55:10.920
So that's what happens. That's a kind of a cheesy

2106
01:55:11.000 --> 01:55:15.520
short way describing our sactification and especially with you wear

2107
01:55:15.560 --> 01:55:19.520
an involved Bible study, but it's so crucial and we

2108
01:55:19.600 --> 01:55:22.319
don't pay attention to it. We want to be entertained

2109
01:55:22.359 --> 01:55:26.680
in our churches first and foremost, and have kids programs.

2110
01:55:26.680 --> 01:55:30.640
There's nothing wrong with all those things, and performances and

2111
01:55:31.279 --> 01:55:34.039
having a good time with your friends and family. There's

2112
01:55:34.079 --> 01:55:37.640
nothing wrong with it, but it can't when it becomes

2113
01:55:37.640 --> 01:55:42.239
central over and against learning and understanding the Word of

2114
01:55:42.279 --> 01:55:45.720
God and going to a church that teaches the whole counsels,

2115
01:55:46.079 --> 01:55:49.680
the entire word of God, the whole canons of the scripture.

2116
01:55:50.520 --> 01:55:53.840
That's where the life comes from, so that then we're

2117
01:55:53.880 --> 01:55:57.159
ready to go out into the world and spread the

2118
01:55:57.159 --> 01:55:57.720
good news.

2119
01:55:58.399 --> 01:56:02.479
Well, as Jesus told Martha, there are better there are

2120
01:56:02.560 --> 01:56:05.520
better things to choose, right, Yes, well.

2121
01:56:05.359 --> 01:56:07.439
I love that. I was not that I did not

2122
01:56:07.520 --> 01:56:08.239
see that coming.

2123
01:56:08.279 --> 01:56:08.479
Bill.

2124
01:56:08.720 --> 01:56:10.199
That's that's excellent.

2125
01:56:10.760 --> 01:56:17.359
Well, well you inspired me. Uh well, Chris Whittington, congratulations

2126
01:56:17.399 --> 01:56:21.000
on the new project. It's available, you know all the

2127
01:56:21.079 --> 01:56:24.960
usual places, so get your hands on it and be blessed.

2128
01:56:25.680 --> 01:56:27.880
You know to where your socks fall off, because they will.

2129
01:56:29.159 --> 01:56:31.479
Thank you. Thank you so much, my friend, Chris Whittington,

2130
01:56:31.560 --> 01:56:36.479
dot Com, Spotify, iTunes. Yeah, like Bill said, all all

2131
01:56:36.520 --> 01:56:39.399
the usual suspects you can find my music.

2132
01:56:39.960 --> 01:56:43.000
Well, the singer songwriter, worship leader in Texas base still

2133
01:56:43.079 --> 01:56:46.159
industry executive Chris Whittington has been with us. Chris, You're

2134
01:56:46.199 --> 01:56:48.279
always a blessing. Thank you so much. Take care of my.

2135
01:56:48.239 --> 01:56:51.600
Friend back at you, my friend, thank you, you got it.

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