Sept. 15, 2025
The Bill Martinez Show 09 15 25
The Bill Martinez Show 09 15 25
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Are you ready, Yeah, Okay, let's do an Ill Martinez Live,
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a program about current events, our culture, our values, our politics,
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and our future.
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And now Bill Martinez.
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Hey, right now, six minutes after the top of the
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are Bill Martinez here with Fox News contributor Liz Peak.
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Hey, Liz, good morning, good morning.
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Happy to be with you.
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Well, great to have you here.
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As the somberness continues to weigh heavy in our country,
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I mean, I just I gotta tell you, Liz, I
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am really shocked at how how this, this murder of
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Charlie Kirk has exposed such a divide in our country.
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I mean, it is a definitive divide, not only in
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our country, but even in the world. I don't know
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if you saw the EU, the EU refused to do
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a moment of silence, you know, for Charlie Kirk.
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I mean, wow, what you know? You talk about a.
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A generational figure and lightning rod. I knew that he
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had a lot of impact and influence, but I never
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thought like this.
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Well, I think the reason that he had such impact is,
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to my way of thinking, he did everything right. He
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had the right ideas, to be sure, but he also
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was willing to discuss those ideas. He was willing to
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debate topics rather than just try and force his ideology
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down someone else's throat, which is sort of the prevailing
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way it goes these days. He actually believed an open discussion,
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open debate freedom of speech. And it does not surprise
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me that a group that tracks campus free speech called FIRE,
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the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression, says that he
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was one of the top three targeted speakers in the country.
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He Milo and also Ben Shapiro are the people who
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students are most likely to try to shut down. I think, honestly,
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this is a very big deal that we are teaching
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kids on college campuses that the way you disagree with
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someone is you shout them down, or you prevent them
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physically from appearing, or you basically silence them.
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Bill.
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I don't think any time ever has that been the
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recommended course of action, or that people have really kind
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of gotten behind the idea that you shouldn't even hear
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opposing ideas. I'm all over this because I'm on fire's
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advisory board, and I very very much believe that freedom
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of speech is under attack from by the way the
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right and the left some of the time, and this
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is a non part as an organization that calls that out,
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and that calls out campuses where they don't allow opposing
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a pinions. And I do think we're making a little headway.
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And why do I say that colleges now do not
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like ending up at the bottom of fires rankings on
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free speech. It was Harvard for many years if you remember,
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They're no longer there because they've made some adjustments to
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the way they approach fre speech issues. Now it's Columbia
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and Barnard and weirdly Indiana University. But really the point is,
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I think people are beginning to pay attention to college campuses,
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the fact that they are so homogeneous in terms of opinion.
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They talk so much about diversity, but when you look
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at the faculty. The Crimson at Harvard does the survey
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frequently of students and also faculty and their viewpoint, and
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naturally it's very liberal, always has been about eighty percent liberal,
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the faculty that is. But this year and I actually
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think the faculties beginning to I don't know if i'd
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lie or she maybe kind of try to color that survey,
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but ninety three percent of Harvard's faculty disapproved of Donald
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Trump's reelections, So that kind of tells you where they stand.
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The sad thing is not just that they have such
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a one note faculty, that they're all anti Trump for liberals,
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but that they when when asked should we prioritize hiring conservatives,
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that is, should we prioritize diversifying what the students here
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on our campus, most of them said no, absolutely not.
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So how can you call yourself an intellectual if you
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can't defend your position, if you're not interested in debate
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and discourse. I mean, I find that, honestly, I really
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do find that totally shocking. So the only the connect
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the dots here is kids are learning that the only
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way to shut down an opponent not to out debate
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and not to outthink him or outright him, but to
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silence him. And that's what they did with Charlie Kirk.
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Well, this is just another chapter and the cancel culture
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is yes, but now it's risen to the level of violence.
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I mean, you and I've been talking about this for
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what the last year and a half at least, that
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the rhetoric was getting to be so mean spirited that
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people were going to get hurt, and here we are.
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I mean, and their interpretation.
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Of Charlie's debate and his style in his positions was
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so over the top. I mean, in much the same
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way like with Donald Trump.
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You know, Donald Trump.
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You know, they can't beat him, they can't beat his ideology.
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So now they just they name cal they cuss at him,
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and he's a Nazi, he's a pastor, yeah, right, and all.
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This goes down. So all this is very dangerous.
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I mean to the point now that guess what, you know,
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as Obama's old pastor would say, the chickens have come
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home to roost, and even Democrats are saying, well, I'm hesitant.
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I'm a little weary about going out into the public,
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even though I don't see a lot of Democrats being
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politically targeted or shot at like you know the left
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has been doing to conservatives.
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No, I do think that the I think that basically, well, yes,
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I think it has been mostly conservatives that are under attack,
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obviously President Trump being the poster child for this. I
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gotta say, you know, every now and then, I'm kind
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of startled to realize that this guy has been as
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targeted for assassination twice at least that we know of,
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and shot once. How many people under those circumstances would
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show up at Yankee Stadium or other venues where he is.
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I mean he really or.
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Stand out in the streets outside of a restaurant in DC.
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Yeah right, I mean he's a pretty damn courageous guy,
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you know anyway, But yeah, this targeting of conservatives. But
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it's not just conservatives, Bill, what about the gunning down
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of people at Blackstone or the CEO of a health
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insurance company company that this idea that murder is a
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is a acceptable means to an end? Holy crow? I mean,
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how did we get here? I do think you're right
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that the rhetoric that the calling Trump a fascist and
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a Nazi all the time, someone online was called calling
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Charlie Kirk a fascist. And it's so stupid because one
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of his principal underpinnings of what he talked about was
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free markets, free enterprise capitalism. People don't know what fascism is.
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They're ignorant, and so they just use this label as
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sort of an incendiary talking point. But it's very damaging
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and very dangerous.
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Well, and that's the thing.
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When he was in these open debates, you know, I
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observed several dynamics. And one that was clear to me
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was that these kids, I mean, Charlie went right to
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the belly of the beast on these college campuses where
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these kids had been indoctrinated, they were siloed in their thinking. Yea,
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and Charlie comes in and he is having a reasonable conversation.
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I don't think I ever saw him, you know, pitching
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a fit, throwing the microphone down, cussing at people.
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You know.
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It was just let's have a civil discourse, you know,
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and back and forth. And what I saw occurring was
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you could see the look on some of these kids'
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faces like, oh my god, I am not crazy.
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Yeah, yeah, this makes sense.
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I mean, you know, you know, we talked last night
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on air on the bottom Line on Fox Business about
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you know, the fact he never went to college and
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the way his beginnings of enlightenment, if you will, was
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reading in I don't know, maybe junior high or maybe
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high school, an economics textbook by Paul Krugman, and he
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read it and he thought, you know what, that just
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sound right to me. And this is a kid reading this.
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Yeah, and.
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Let's hold on to that for just a second. We
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gotta go to a quick break, We'll pick it up
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the former Wall Street analysts and Fox News.
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