Sept. 12, 2025
The Bill Martinez Show 09 12 25
The Bill Martinez Show 09 12 25
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Are you ready, Yeah, okay, let's do an Ill Martinez Live,
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a program about current events, our culture, our values, our politics,
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and our future.
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And now Bill Martinez.
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Hey, we're back with the Bill Martinez here along with
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Richard Lyons. Richard, good morning. Good to have you with us.
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How are you, sir?
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Good morning, Bill. I'm well, but I'm very sad about
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Charlie Kirk.
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Yeah, no doubt. You know, this is our democracy. You know,
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you've written about it in the DNA of Democracy, The
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Shadows of the Acropolis. You know, democracy has been under
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attack from day one. I mean this great American idea.
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There were many antithical forces that have been rooting against
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us even to this very moment, and of course what
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happened with the assassination of Charlie Kirk once again this
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great American idea under attack.
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Well, what we're looking at is, if I may, Bill,
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it's the last one hundred years of socialism being presented
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in America as some sort of beneficial alternative mode of governments.
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It has never been that. It is tyranny dressed as
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redistribution through government to the poor of the wealth of
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a country. They replaced equality with the word equity and
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they use the word equity to say a single political
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party can take all the wealth in the nation and
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take it from those who earned it and give it
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to those who have it. The most recent this has
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been going on for one hundred years. The most recent
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advantage that the left has taken is for the past
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two generations now, Bill, during our lifetime, they have infiltrated
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the universities all throughout the country and have described America
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as a country that's the problem, that we are the
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original sinners in history, and that socialism is the cure
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all for that. They forget entirely that we fought a
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civil war unexampled in human history, where a majority race
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went to war with itself to free a minority race
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and provide them equal rights. Exactly, they forget about it entirely, right,
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They forget that it was a Democrat party that fought
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for the Confederacy, that it was the Copperhead Democrats that
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were against Lincoln every day of his administration through the media.
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In fact, now for the last two generations, they've gotten
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into the universities and they're portraying socialism as a happy
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utopia they can only be arrived at if you cancel
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every other idea of government. Our way, the way in
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which we were founded, is to present all the ideas
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you have. First of all, you have to take in
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the whole compass. You have to embrace opposites as much
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as George Washington did, or Thomas Jefferson did with John
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Adams and Abigail Adams. Right, because, okay, we fundamentally differ
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in what our ideas are and where we want to
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take the country. But you debate it like they debated
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the formation of our constitution. You put fifty five people
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in one room representing the whole country, and you say,
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let's work on the best idea for what the future
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of this country is. Now, what socialism is is. They
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claim that that same constitution is a living document. What
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does that mean? It means you can kill it, and
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they're doing their best to destroy it. Our Constitution is
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the one vehicle whereby persons of different ideas can compose
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those those ideas through reason and debate and come to
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a solution that is represented.
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In all of America, exactly right.
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All of America is represented in that chamber, and out
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of that chamber comes a solution for all of America
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and everybody can feel good about that solution and a
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part of the solution because it's their representatives who came
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to that solution. What socialism is saying, we don't want
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to talk about any other ideas. We want the single
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idea of socialism to be victorious at whatever costs.
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Right. The thing I find quite ironic here, Richard, is
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that they will say it's a living document, that it's dynamic,
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so it becomes interpretive. Okay, well that was then, you know,
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today's language and understanding. You know, this is now. I mean,
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that's like you know, saying, all right, well gravity is dynamic.
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So they back two hundred years ago meant a certain thing.
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Now it's not the same. So let's get back on
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top of the roof and we're going to jump off
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and see, you know, make sure we have our own,
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you know, modern understanding of what gravity is.
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Really well put. But if change it to weather, yeah,
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now they say weather is dynamic. No, we have to
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define it. We have to be within two degrees where
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we want to be.
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Right.
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Therefore, we have to change the entire economy. The government
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has to run it right. So the minute you know
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the constitution, as you know, Bill and everybody in America
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should read it. Please. It's what Charlie Kirch has died for.
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It is very short, it's very to the point, and
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it protects our representation and government. It protects ourselves as citizens.
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It limits government size. It isn't an open ended government
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can take control of everything and tell you what to do, right,
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and that that is what Charlie kirk was trying to
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reinform the youth of America who are literally drowning in indoctrination.
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And the thing that's amazing Richard, you know when he
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went to the campus, is that no other conservative dare
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go because they saw it as kind of like a
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no go zone. And Charlie goes, no, he goes, uh,
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you know, you got to talk to these kids. And
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and the thing is the reason these kids embraced him
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is that they go, you know what, I'm not crazy.
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I'm not right. I mean, it's.
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Crazy because I'm a I'm a white male. I'm not
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evil because I'm a white male.
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Yeah, because I because I believe in free speech.
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You know, one million casualties, largely white males, died in
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the Civil War, right, and now they're trying to claim
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it was never fought. I mean it is we are not.
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America is not the evil in the world. America has
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fought socialism and tyranny through out the world and make
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the world a better place.
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And tell me, with your historical background in that, is
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there any instance in history that you could say socialism
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worked here? No, zero, unequivocal.
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This is the profound problem. Yes, they either have to
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have utopia or they have to be on their way
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to the utopia. But the fact is there is no
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utopia right and on the way to utopia. What socialism
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does is destroy everybody with an independent idea, destroy everybody
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who earned an income that had been their own right.
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It destroys everybody but the inner circle of a single
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political party, their friends and family. You exit in China
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right now, where they just had a talk between g
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and Putin saying, isn't it wonderful we can harvest organs from.
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Anybody lived to be one hundred and fifty, no harm,
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no foul. Yeah, at their expense, not at their expense.
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But you know, in a sense, it's it's a it's
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a form of you know, singular rule where you know
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it's good to be king. But they don't talk about
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it that way.
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No, they don't. But it's the same thing. The tyranny
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that exists in socialism is the same tyranny exercised by
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the pharaohs of Egypt. Yes, they just rebranded. Yeah right.
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This guy Karl Marx, who never took a bath in
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his life, this you know, stinking crack pot from Germany,
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created an ideology that has destroyed everything that's touched since
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its inception. It's literally butchered hundreds of millions of people.
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And you know, if any professor in college, what they
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what they get, Bill, They get, Oh, I'm the cool
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professor because I'm against America, right and I'm for socialism,
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and I have tenure, they had security, and the rebel
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they get to be Marlon Brando and Howard Hughes.
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At the same time, right exactly.
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And it just it goals me entirely. And here's one
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man with courage enough to go to a college campus
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on his own and just try to put a wedge
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in that indoctrination and say, look, America is a great country.
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You really ought to get to know it.
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Yeah, let me, let me let me show you some facts.
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Let me facts, right, facts, not opinion. Here's the facts.
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Here's the historical record. And then of course you know
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it causes these kids to all of a sudden re
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engage with some you know, critical thinking. What a novel
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concept on a university campus, right exactly.
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And you know I heard great numbers yesterday. Bill. There
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are thirty five hundred chapters of turning point yes in
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high s, fools and on campuses in America. That's a
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remarkable feat. Oh, thirty one years was able to achieve.
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Exactly. We've got to go to a quick break. We'll
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