Sept. 11, 2025

The Bill Martinez Show 09 11 25

The Bill Martinez Show 09 11 25
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The Bill Martinez Show 09 11 25
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Are you ready?

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Yeah, Okay, let's do an Ill Martinez Live, a program

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about current events, our culture, our values, our politics, and

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our future.

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And now Bill Martinez.

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Six minutes after on the top of the hour. Right now,

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Bill Martinez here with Mike O'Neill from Landmark Legal. Hey, Mike,

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how are you good to be with you?

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Bill?

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I'm doing well, always good. Well, I'll tell you the

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left doesn't want to hear. They tried to do everything

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they could to bury this murder in North Carolina. I mean,

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this brings to light so many things. I mean, democratic

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run cities, liberal judges, no bail laws, all this stuff,

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and you've got a murderer with a rap sheet a

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mile long, and you know, it's like whoa. And I

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don't know what to say anymore. I'm just I'm just

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in utter, I guess awe of the danger that these

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democratic liberal states have put the American people in.

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There's just so much to unpack Bill with this, and

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it just really encapsulates all of the problems that we've

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been talking about for months. I mean, it's it's interesting

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that this just comes and almost for I mean, it's

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just providential. I don't know, but it's just how this

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how this arises right when, right when we're talking about

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crime in cities and this event transpires and it's just

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absolutely horrible. Let's just let's be very clear here. This

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is this is an evil act. This is an act

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bite of pure evil on an innocent person, and it

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is absolutely terrible. And but for X, but for conservative media,

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people wouldn't have even heard about this. This was something

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that was suppressed. You saw the mayor of Charlotte who

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was thinking people for not talking about it, or not

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broadcasting it, or not discussing it. This is this is terrifying.

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I think when you look at our criminal justice system,

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particularly post George Floyd and particularly in the past ten years,

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you just see the same You see the same issues

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repeat themselves over and over again. First of all, you

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see you see the individuals who are in charge of

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our cities who are utterly incompetent. Let's just be very

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clear about this, and I submit to you, I've seen

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a little bit about this in Virginia here that there

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you and I again not to sound conspiratorial, but there

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is this Soros Foundation. There's this thing called the Open

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Society Foundation. George Soros and he made a concerted effort

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to identify district attorney commonwealth's attorney races in states and

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put people in charge of criminal and the criminal justice

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system who are not criminal justice people, who are individuals

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who believed in all of this woke nonsense crap, and

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they they've taken effect in these cities. You see these

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prosecutors you see.

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And most most of them are blue cities. Des right,

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people need to look at how this breaks down. And

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it wasn't like Soros says, hey, I'm going to go

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after these conservative markets. He went where you know, uh,

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where the trees were ripe and ready ready to be picked,

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and he was easy picking. And he leveraged his money

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in such a way that here we are, I mean,

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we have today. And it's not only it's not only source,

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it's also this other dark money from outside of the

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country as well. It's showing everything they can to undermine

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this American dream.

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Right exactly. And it's it's you have again. I've seen it.

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I've seen it a little bit closer in some instances

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in Virginia here because there is where I live. There's

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a county prosecutor that was put that was funded by it.

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And you can are a commonwealth attorney that was funded

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by it, and another one down in Norfolk as well,

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and it's it's it doesn't take a lot, Right, You're

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talking about fifty sixty one hundred thousand dollars, which is

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a drop in the bucket for a lot of these groups,

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but can be completely dispositive in a local election.

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Right.

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And you the damage that can be wrought is is

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is horrific. And you see it over and over again.

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You see you look at yourself and you say, well,

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how does this person get elected as the state senator

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who defunds the security on the trains the light rail

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in Charlotte? Right, You're like, Okay, who's this individual who?

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Who?

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Who's who are these these state officials who've removed the

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cash bail procedures in the state, in the state statutes

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and the state laws. Okay, we know who's behind this.

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Who are the individuals who are getting rid of the

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three strikes in your outlaws? Who are the individuals serving

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on the benches again, not police, These are not rank

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and file police. Who are the individuals serving on the

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on the benches and the judiciary and these jurisdictions who

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are sitting there, who are turning these individuals loose over

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and over and over.

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Again on a promisory note that I will return, right.

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I mean, how it just gets And the more you

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look at it, the more insane it gets, Bill, and

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you be get to peel back the onion, and you

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begin to see the systemic rot that is taken over.

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And I have to be left with this conclusion that

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it is intentional. Right, it's certainly intentional.

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Like God, yeah, because for.

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Decades, and we talked about this before in your show,

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for decades we understood exactly how to curb crime in

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our in our cities, in our urban environments in general.

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What do you do?

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There's a small percentage of individuals who commit violent crime

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in this country, and it's generally not a surprise who

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these individuals are. The police know who they are, right,

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I'm sure that this guy was on the police's radar

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over and over again when they had to arrest him

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over and over again. Well, guess what, you know? What

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you do? You take those people off the streets and

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you put them in prison and lo and behold or get.

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Them mental help or whatever is necessary. Right, But you

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don't leave them out with a general population and risk

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the lives and the security of everyday Americans. They're just

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going to going to work.

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Yeah, exactly. You don't use the light rail system in

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your city as a way for homeless lunatics who are evil,

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demonic people to roam around and function as shelters for them.

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You get them off the streets asap. Now, this is

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what we're talking about here, this individual. What kind of

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system do you have when an individual and again, let's

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be very clear, the police have done their job. I

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love it when these idiot leftists say, oh, we need

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more money, we more resources for the police, We need

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more resources. You do not need more resources. This guy

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was I was identified and was arrested fourteen times. Okay,

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there's prisons for these people. Put him in prison. You

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need systemic reforms of this of these judges, prosecutors, whatever,

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mental health professionals, whoever partakes in this system where these

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individuals are allowed to roam the streets no longer. And

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I think, you know, we're fed up with it. I

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think we have a bold president again, take this up

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to the top. We always want to loopen Donald Trump

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on this stuff. You see, the federal government isn't going

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to put up with this anymore, and so local citizenry

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doesn't need to put up with this anymore either, these individuals.

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Wearings, But where is the local citizenry? I mean, look

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at what happened. This guy attacks this defenseless woman with

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a knife, he murders her on the train, and everybody

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just kind of sat back. I mean when I look

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at the video, you go, what happened? I mean, there's

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no Daniel Penny there trying to restrain this guy or

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do any There was no sheep dog on that train.

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And and then now after everything that comes out, where

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are the people, you know, on the streets. They're not

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on the streets and outrage yelling and screaming because you

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know what this twenty three year old girl or twenty

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twenty three to twenty four, it could very well have

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been your daughter.

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Oh absolutely, anybody, absolutely, And it's it's it's this horrendous,

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horrendous tragedy, and it's it's just it's not necessary. We

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don't need to live in this world. But as you said,

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there was again, if you beg the more you peel back,

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the you understand that there has been a systemic effort

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to ensure that these play that these systems in place

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ensure that these individuals who commit these horrendous crimes are

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not punished, Right, I mean, how can you have a

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judge who says, okay, sign a document saying you're gonna

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come back in when when your trial is on and

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and then that's enough to release somebody who clearly, clearly

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not in a position to be roaming the streets in public.

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Ye, you're not honorable. You've demonstrated time and again you're

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not honorable. But we're going to extend an honor system

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to you. Right, absolutely, It's just that makes sense.

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But the thing is, it's amazing how quickly this can happen.

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Right if you go back twenty years and again, just

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go back to two thousand and five, Right, twenty years

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this wouldn't have happened. This didn't happen in our this

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wasn't happening. But now, over the past several decades, you've

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had this wokeism, this nonsense crap, Marxism inculcate itself into

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the culture and into these Again, I keep saying this

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word over and over again, but it's important to understand

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integrating itself into the criminal justice system. And it's not

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just a criminal justice system. It's all of our systems, right,

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It's our educational systems, it's our social welfare systems, it's

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our criminal justice system. It's our mental health systems, it's

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our healthcare systems, it's everything. This woke crap has been

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integrated to the detriment of the American people. And no

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longer should we sit here tolerated. And I think everybody

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should say to themselves, no longer are we going to tolerate.

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We have individuals in our federal offices who are not

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going to tolerate it. You saw how this was amplified.

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This was discussed by the President of the United States.

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This is discussed by the Department of Justice, US Attorney

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God blessed the US Attorney Did you see him in

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his press conference to the other day talking about this exactly.

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We got to go to a quick break. We'll pick

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it up on the other side. More from Mike O'Neil.

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And we're back with you. Bill Martinez here with Mike O'Neill.

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Mike is with Landmark Legal and Mike as we were

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saying you know, a friend of mine we were talking

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the other day and he said, this has learned helplessness

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because as you you know, started outlining the effect that

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this woke Marxist mentality has had, there's been psychological conditioning

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to the American people, particularly in these blue states. And

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I'll tell you, people in these blue states ought to

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take an assessment here to say what is going on.

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I mean, let's get it out of the political realm.

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Let's just say, hey, this is the zip code, this

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is the neighborhood that I live in, that I'm raising

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my family in, and we're about as mentally deficient and

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I don't want to say deranged necessarily, but we're definitely affected,

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just like this individual who's you know, gone through the

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system fourteen times obviously has mental issues. And this is

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one guy of how many other thousands of people roaming

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the streets there in North Carolina. That's just North Carolina.

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We're not talking across the country and these other blue

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states where madness is running.

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A monk exactly. And again, the mind virus of warkness

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that has inculcated itself into the American populace. I like

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to think that there's a large percentage of people that

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aren't that haven't been affected by it. But again, within

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these jurisdictions, certainly it still happens. And what's what's really insidious,

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Bill is the is the effort to ensure that it

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continues even in the face of horrific violence. Okay, the

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media doesn't want to talk about this because you can't

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see it. And then what is the story, Now, what

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is the story from from the media. It's oh, here

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we go conservatives pounds right.

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Yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, the pounds.

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Yes, it's always it's always, Oh, I'm it's this consistent

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gas lighting gets Oh, it's it's the Van Jones or

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CNN CNN commentators saying that, oh, this individual, it's it's

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expressing sympathy for the individual who committed the viol right,

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this lunatic monster who committed this violences. We need to

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understand what's wrong, what's going on?

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No, we don't.

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We need to ensure that these individuals aren't on the

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streets of American cities committing the horrific acts of violence

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that they're committing. And we know how to do it,

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and we know how to identify and we know who

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they are. Get them off the streets. Put them in prison,

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deal with it. Then they shouldn't be running around. It's

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just it's not complicated. But we've been inculcated with this

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horrific virus to think somehow, Oh no, we can't talk

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about this. Oh oh, this person needs help. No, no,

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this person needs to be removed from the society in

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place in a position where they can never harm anybody

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ever again.

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Well, Mike, I don't know if you saw this latest

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pull from Gallup. It's the survey that shows how far

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left today's Democratic Party truly is. The National survey, according

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to Gary Bauer, asked American adults how they viewed capitalism

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and socialism only forty two percent. And I'm saying this

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only because of this mind virus you're talking about, because this,

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you know, clarifies and verifies more of what you're saying.

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Only forty two percent of Democrats said they viewed capitalism positively,

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while fifty five percent viewed it negatively. Think of that

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forty two to fifty five. Sixty six percent of Democrats

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said they had a positive view of socialism, while just

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thirty percent of Democrats had a negative view of socialism.

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So all this, you can put in the same bucket.

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You know, this psychological damage and this Marxism this you know,

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how do I want to say it's almost a disenfranchisement

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of crime and law and order, you know, because.

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That absolutely and then there's that other when when you're

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talking about the survey. I think one of the other

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ones that really stuck out with me this week is

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the marriage and children. Yes, for women, right, I think

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Democrat women put marriage and children at the lowest.

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There was twelve. There was twelve, twelve categories and they

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were number twelve. Right.

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You know, Bill, We've touched on this a little bit

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before in the past, and again I keep going. I

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go back to this when we talk about the disordered priorities, right,

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and a lot of it is lack of God, lack

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of faith, lack of Christianity. The further away you move

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from God, the more you put these things, you prioritize

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these things human. If you if you lose if you

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lose faith, if you lose religion, all of this other

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stuff becomes more important. Oh it's me, me, ME, I,

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I I. And then you're susceptible to it. I'm not

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getting what I want. I deserve a house, the Government's

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not the government. Government owes me a house, the government

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owes me money, the government owes me whatever they owe me.

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It's me, me, me. It's you stop looking, you stop

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looking outside, you start turning yourself inward. And I think

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that's what happens when you walk away from religion, when

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you walk away from no question.

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Well, and look, look look at empires of the past

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in history. That was the disease, the disease more that

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just sunk into them. It was all about meism. And

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here we are, We're down that slippery slope and you

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look at it, and where as you said, you know,

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you've got what George Barnell calls the nuns, the people

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that and I don't mean flying like flying nuns or

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religious nuns. These are the people that are non religious.

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They consider themselves non religious.

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But what gives me.

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Encouragement, though, is gen Ziers and exers, how they are

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responding by experience. It's like they have realized, you know,

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gravity exists, and that to defy gravity, to defy God

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is not good. And so what are they doing. They're

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turning to religion. And I'm just praying, Mike that the

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church is out there, you know, that they're authentic, that

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they take a pause and really determine their authenticity and

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really present to these young people what Jesus is all about,

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what God is about, so that they are they're reinforced

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with this inclination that they have right now in search

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for God, and that these churches would would respond accordingly.

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I I know that many won't because they they're as well,

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they're they're they're woke and uh, and they're going down

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a different gospel than the one that Jesus gave us.

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But uh, and and Heaven helped them because the accountability

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that they will have to God himself, because God says,

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look at this is my son's institution that he gave

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his life for. And you mess around with that program,

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you got hell to pay.

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Yeah. Absolutely, I think I think you you you become,

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you will allow yourself to become susceptible to this, and

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then you allow you'll, you'll you'll allow the influences to

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come in and infiltrate your systems of government and systems

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in your in your in your society, and then it

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just it simply becomes uh, you know, demonic, honestly, seriously,

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and the demonic to this point what what when you

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see these individuals, this individual commit this kind of acts

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of crime, and the the the effort to suppress it,

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the effort to not identify evil for what it is.

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And I mean, we're taught when you see evil, you

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call evil out. That's objective.

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Yeah, oh you can. You can't do that today? Well,

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I mean, look what happens. Hey, Look what happens in England. England,

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you call out evil and you end up in jail. Well,

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you know, and now it's the deal, you and I

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if we happen to go visit England and they happen

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to hear and watch one of our videos and they

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can go, oh, you know, O'Neal and Martinez, they're they're

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on the docket. Man, we're gonna arrest them as soon

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as they landed Heathrow.

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I think, but here is again, try to turn this

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on it on a more positive note as opposed to

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despondent note. I think I do think we can. Now

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I'm done, I'm done trying to say, oh, we can't

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say that. I appreciate, you know, we can't say that

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polite society.

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That those days are passed.

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Look, it's twenty twenty five let's turn the page on that.

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We see what we see, we call it at we

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speak truth. We don't We're done with this. Look, we

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have people, we have a leader. Look, Donald Trump, he

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doesn't mince words.

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Right, Bill, Right, you're exactly right.

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He sees it, he calls it out. He did not

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hesitate when he when this was brought to his attention.

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He's not hesitated to call out the perpetrators of this,

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those who've allowed this, this incident to occur. Not just

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those individuals sitting on that on the train he didn't

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do anything, obviously, but the judges, the prosecutors, the criminal

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justice system, the state senators, the state justice system, the

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state politics, political system that that did away with three

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strikes and you're out, that did away with cash lists bail.

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That said, the judges who aren't even qualified to sit

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on the bench who are saying this, those days are done, okay.

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And I think, I really think, I think the more

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we we the more we take heart in the fact

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that we don't have to say, we don't have to

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watch what we say anymore. And when we see evil,

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we call it out. When we see that systems are broken,

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we call out. When we see you insane wokeness that

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ends up costing people their lives. We call it out,

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and I think I'm done with this. You can't say

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this anymore because we have in the United States of America,

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we have the First Amendment. We're not great exactly that

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we see evil, we call we see broke systems. We

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say they're broken. We tell it exactly why they're broken.

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Well, toll you for all the institutions you mentioned the

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government and the bureaucracy, for all the institutions, I mean,

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thank God for Scotus. Yeah, you know, really you know

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Donald Trump, his cabinet. Uh, there's a limited number. I mean,

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by and large, you know, DEI is pervasive. Still is

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going to be a long battle. It's not going to

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be won and done. But thank god, you've got people

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that have the courage. I mean, they're almost Daniel Penny

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like they're sheep dogs.

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You know.

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Donald Trump's the sheep dog who's going out there seeing

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the danger and he's going after it. He's not he's

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not flinching from it. Uh, and so and others are

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following his lead. And we need that time and we

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need reinforcements, we need You're right, this this contagion. This positivity.

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Uh, and.

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You know, I guess this mindset towards our constant life,

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liberty and the pursue of the happiness. We must re

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embrace that, you know, for the sake of the next generation,

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and to reinforce the good things that are happening in

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our country that will overwhelm all this bad stuff that's

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been going on, that's been built up over the decades.

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Right, Yeah, exactly as I said, turn it's a mor

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here in the United States. It's no longer should we

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be shackled with this correctness, this political correctness, that we

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have to monitor how we say things because we might,

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you know, hurt somebody's feelings or be perceived in a

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certain manner. Look, it's the systems are broken. The criminal

483
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justice systems are broken. We know how to fix it.

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It's time to start fixing it. People's lives are at

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stake here. We no longer have to We shouldn't have

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to tolerate idiots and Marxists and woke lunacy in any

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of these systems. And again, yeah, we're done, We're done

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with it. It's time to put that, put that to rest.

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Woke is twenty twenty four. It's not twenty twenty five.

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Yeah, crime, crime and lawlessness is unacceptable. It's killing Americans.

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That's the bottom line. Mike O'Neil, the assistant General counsel

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at Landmark Legal. Michael, thank you so much. Appreciate the time,

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Welcome morning, Welcome Bill Martinez here. Great to have you

541
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with us in Oh Gosh. I'll tell you this is

542
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gonna be a lot of fun.

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Here.

544
00:27:56.440 --> 00:27:59.960
Kevin Matthews is joining us, and you know, for people

545
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in Chicago, Kevin Matthews is a name that many people

546
00:28:04.920 --> 00:28:09.680
grew up with radio personality of radio personalities, you know,

547
00:28:09.799 --> 00:28:13.799
back in the eighties and nineties. He he, you owned Chicago,

548
00:28:13.880 --> 00:28:14.519
didn't you, Kevin?

549
00:28:16.000 --> 00:28:16.759
How were you? Bill?

550
00:28:17.400 --> 00:28:19.960
Hey, I'm doing great. I appreciate you coming.

551
00:28:19.839 --> 00:28:21.640
Out very much. I appreciate it.

552
00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:25.400
Hey, But what a legacy, Kevin? I mean, you know,

553
00:28:26.359 --> 00:28:28.160
as I was telling before we came on. I mean,

554
00:28:28.240 --> 00:28:32.400
here's here's two old radio boys coming together, not only

555
00:28:32.480 --> 00:28:35.000
with the radio background, but you know, a Catholic background

556
00:28:35.039 --> 00:28:37.880
as well. And so you know, I'm looking forward to

557
00:28:37.960 --> 00:28:41.359
our audience hearing your story. But you know, you had

558
00:28:41.400 --> 00:28:45.079
a lot of fun, you know, just like me. You know,

559
00:28:45.160 --> 00:28:49.160
when you're young and on radio. You know, we're juvenile delinquents,

560
00:28:49.400 --> 00:28:51.960
you know, just having fun, you know, trying and stay

561
00:28:51.960 --> 00:28:54.000
out of trouble. You had a clever way to avoid

562
00:28:54.119 --> 00:28:57.759
and kind of minimize some of the FCC complication with

563
00:28:57.880 --> 00:28:59.319
your characters, you know.

564
00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:03.519
Bill Uh, you know, I know I paid thousands and

565
00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:08.200
fines I my college station. The FCC took it away,

566
00:29:08.279 --> 00:29:12.880
The college took it away. Now we were we were,

567
00:29:14.200 --> 00:29:17.559
oh Ben Fido's pirates.

568
00:29:19.759 --> 00:29:20.119
You got it.

569
00:29:20.160 --> 00:29:22.480
Wait a minute, you got you gotta tell the story

570
00:29:23.039 --> 00:29:27.039
of the college station about you coming in late. So

571
00:29:27.160 --> 00:29:29.759
you had to have an excuse, and so I mean

572
00:29:29.839 --> 00:29:33.240
you you went, you went defcom five right.

573
00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:38.000
Well, the first book I wrote. My life changed ten

574
00:29:38.119 --> 00:29:40.559
years ago when I found a statue with a virgin

575
00:29:40.680 --> 00:29:44.079
Mary lying on the ground next to a dumpster, and

576
00:29:44.200 --> 00:29:46.839
I went over to her. She's broken in half her

577
00:29:46.920 --> 00:29:49.599
hands are missing. She's looking up at me, and I

578
00:29:49.799 --> 00:29:53.559
hear the voice of Christ say, will you deny me?

579
00:29:54.359 --> 00:29:55.599
Will you deny my mother?

580
00:29:56.599 --> 00:29:56.839
Wow?

581
00:29:57.039 --> 00:30:02.359
And what happened ten years ago? I've now written two

582
00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:09.079
books about because it's not ending, it's and what happened

583
00:30:09.119 --> 00:30:13.799
the first book. Eventually I got the statue blessed and

584
00:30:15.440 --> 00:30:18.319
I kept her broken because I said, no, I'm broken,

585
00:30:18.440 --> 00:30:22.519
and I was an am and I said, we're all broken,

586
00:30:22.599 --> 00:30:26.720
but we're loved by God and my priest Father Mark.

587
00:30:26.759 --> 00:30:29.720
I started coming back to the Catholic faith. I was

588
00:30:29.799 --> 00:30:34.319
a zombie Catholic. You know, I hadn't said a confession

589
00:30:34.480 --> 00:30:40.359
since the fourth grade, my first one, which in my

590
00:30:40.519 --> 00:30:42.559
second book, I tell you what happened to me in

591
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my first confession.

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Oh boy.

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But the bottom line is the first book, I I

594
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a nun. A Franciscan nun helped me. She was a

595
00:30:54.240 --> 00:30:59.079
literary professor at Grand Valley where I went, and she

596
00:30:59.200 --> 00:31:00.920
didn't want anything to do with me.

597
00:31:01.200 --> 00:31:03.799
Now, Grand Valley was the one that you had to

598
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get the three credits afterwards.

599
00:31:05.960 --> 00:31:09.799
Right, yeah, I literally, Well, basically what happened was she

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we approached her because Father Mark said you should write

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a book because people are taking the statue that are

602
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very broken, and the statue's been with people in hospice

603
00:31:21.680 --> 00:31:26.079
emergency rooms. The most broken have taken her into their

604
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homes and they started to write about what was happening.

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And we said we need to write a book. And

606
00:31:33.359 --> 00:31:36.119
that's where Broken Mary A Journey of Hope comes in.

607
00:31:36.680 --> 00:31:42.319
That was written in two thousand and sixteen, fifteen sixteen.

608
00:31:42.440 --> 00:31:46.440
But this nun I took her out to lunch and

609
00:31:46.559 --> 00:31:49.079
I said, you can write a great book. And she goes,

610
00:31:49.160 --> 00:31:51.599
I'm not writing a book. I don't have time to

611
00:31:51.640 --> 00:31:55.480
write a book. I don't want and she goes, will

612
00:31:55.559 --> 00:31:58.319
you write it? And I go, well, I can't spell?

613
00:32:00.759 --> 00:32:04.519
What is you can't spell? There's spell check. I'm not

614
00:32:04.680 --> 00:32:07.960
writing this book. She went back to her mother superior

615
00:32:08.039 --> 00:32:11.039
and said, I am not working with Kevin Matthews. He's

616
00:32:11.200 --> 00:32:16.240
Satan quote unquote, He's Satan Satan. Have you heard his

617
00:32:16.480 --> 00:32:20.240
radio show? He worked with Howard Stern and Steve Dahl,

618
00:32:20.720 --> 00:32:26.200
they're all Satan's whatever. Well, three days later she calls

619
00:32:26.279 --> 00:32:30.000
me back mother Colleen Anne loves me and she goes, Okay,

620
00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:31.759
I'm not going to write it. I'm going to ask

621
00:32:31.839 --> 00:32:34.839
you questions, and I'll ask my first question, and you

622
00:32:35.119 --> 00:32:38.960
just write it. And she goes, tell me about your

623
00:32:39.480 --> 00:32:43.279
college radio station. I go, okay, I'm going to tell

624
00:32:43.359 --> 00:32:45.000
the truth. I'm not going to lie to a nun.

625
00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:48.599
And I let her have it. Man, it was, She

626
00:32:48.799 --> 00:32:55.640
wrote back, just two words, oh my, and what in

627
00:32:55.759 --> 00:32:58.519
this thing? I tell her about one time I was

628
00:32:58.599 --> 00:33:02.960
doing the morning show and at that time, nobody had phones.

629
00:33:03.440 --> 00:33:06.480
We had clock radio. So if I'm late, the entire

630
00:33:06.640 --> 00:33:10.799
campus is late exactly. So I'm late twenty minutes and

631
00:33:10.960 --> 00:33:13.359
I get on the air and I just said, well,

632
00:33:13.519 --> 00:33:17.000
if you haven't heard by now, there's no school today.

633
00:33:17.279 --> 00:33:21.960
It's been closed. President Lovers has been murdered overnight and

634
00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:26.079
the entire campus is a crime scene, so there's no classes.

635
00:33:28.000 --> 00:33:31.079
Well I thought that was a pretty good bit. And

636
00:33:31.480 --> 00:33:34.880
the SCC, the school shut us down. I mean they

637
00:33:35.039 --> 00:33:38.920
just unplugged it. Then they called the FCC. FCC takes

638
00:33:38.960 --> 00:33:42.359
it away and it turned into a hair salon, so

639
00:33:43.480 --> 00:33:47.519
you know, and we just that it was just layers

640
00:33:47.759 --> 00:33:52.599
in layers, in layers and layers of sin and this

641
00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:57.039
poor and finally we wrote the book and she gives

642
00:33:57.079 --> 00:34:00.640
it out to the biggest publicists, and she goes, hey,

643
00:34:01.079 --> 00:34:04.400
Matthew Kelly wants to publish our book, and I go

644
00:34:04.720 --> 00:34:06.680
our book, you hate me?

645
00:34:07.200 --> 00:34:09.119
Oh no, no, no, no no.

646
00:34:09.800 --> 00:34:12.960
And so we went with Matthew Kelly and the second

647
00:34:13.039 --> 00:34:18.199
book was released just last July, called Mary's Roadie. And

648
00:34:19.880 --> 00:34:26.159
my life has changed because of God. This is you know, Bill,

649
00:34:27.000 --> 00:34:32.280
Every miracle starts with God. And everything that's happened to

650
00:34:32.360 --> 00:34:35.880
me has happened because of God. Literally happened to me

651
00:34:36.039 --> 00:34:42.119
because of God. And I've made a covenant with Jesus Christ.

652
00:34:43.000 --> 00:34:47.119
And I said, Jesus, I want to be your shepherd dog.

653
00:34:47.480 --> 00:34:50.880
You're the shepherd, You're the shepherd of shepherds. I want

654
00:34:50.960 --> 00:34:55.719
to be your shepherd dog. And I've got ms. I'm

655
00:34:56.079 --> 00:34:58.840
you know, I said, I can't walk that well. I'm old,

656
00:34:59.360 --> 00:35:02.280
i'm tired, i'm fat. But I promise I'm going to

657
00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:06.440
get any stray lambs back to you and I won't

658
00:35:06.599 --> 00:35:10.239
bite or bark. And that's what I've been doing. I'm

659
00:35:10.400 --> 00:35:15.119
his shepherd dog. I'm Mary's Roadie. You know, Jesus Christ

660
00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:19.559
left me at that dumpster with his mother, and Bill,

661
00:35:19.760 --> 00:35:22.480
I had a chance to just walk away. And I

662
00:35:22.599 --> 00:35:25.159
know if I would have walked away that dead. That day,

663
00:35:25.239 --> 00:35:27.760
we wouldn't be talking. I would be dead and I

664
00:35:27.960 --> 00:35:32.360
would be in hell. And he left me with his mother.

665
00:35:32.960 --> 00:35:35.760
And it was the Holy Spirit said that I'll leave

666
00:35:35.800 --> 00:35:37.960
you with my mother and she's going to clean you up.

667
00:35:38.679 --> 00:35:42.079
And that's ten, you know, years ago. And I have

668
00:35:42.239 --> 00:35:46.800
been with the Blessed Mother from heaven every day of

669
00:35:47.000 --> 00:35:52.360
my life. I love her. I am devoted to the Rosary.

670
00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:56.800
The rosary is her ambilical cord. It saved my life.

671
00:35:56.880 --> 00:35:59.440
I didn't know who how to say the rosary. I

672
00:35:59.480 --> 00:36:02.760
asked mayor, who invented the rosary? Then I take this

673
00:36:02.920 --> 00:36:07.519
Google dive and I there's Dominic's, Saint Dominic France. She

674
00:36:07.639 --> 00:36:10.960
gives us Dominic the Rosary. And then I just started

675
00:36:11.079 --> 00:36:15.440
learning about the rosary and Louis de Montford and and

676
00:36:15.639 --> 00:36:17.719
all of a sudden, I am so devoted to the

677
00:36:18.239 --> 00:36:21.719
to the Rosary. I wear mine more protection and I

678
00:36:21.840 --> 00:36:25.199
wear it. I wear the scapular because She's asked us to.

679
00:36:26.119 --> 00:36:29.119
You know, when she told the children of Fatima or Bernadette,

680
00:36:29.320 --> 00:36:33.599
recite your rosary, recite your Rosary. And the rosary is

681
00:36:33.840 --> 00:36:35.239
Mary's ambilical cord.

682
00:36:35.639 --> 00:36:38.119
It's how she I love, I love, I love how

683
00:36:38.159 --> 00:36:42.000
you phrase that, keV, because that's how she feeds us Jesus. Well,

684
00:36:42.039 --> 00:36:44.000
when I was in Catholic school, we were told not

685
00:36:44.119 --> 00:36:45.239
to wear the Rosary.

686
00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:46.000
Oh why not?

687
00:36:46.599 --> 00:36:50.039
I I don't you know, it's perfect, it fits around very,

688
00:36:50.360 --> 00:36:52.960
very easily. But it was. It was interesting. So you know,

689
00:36:53.159 --> 00:36:54.920
I had all the time.

690
00:36:55.079 --> 00:36:59.559
Because this listening in the last ten years. Bill, Once

691
00:36:59.639 --> 00:37:02.920
you go to Christ, once you devote yourself to Christ

692
00:37:03.000 --> 00:37:05.639
andto God and the Holy Spirit, the whole family in heaven,

693
00:37:06.440 --> 00:37:10.079
demonically you know, God loves me, God loves everyone watching.

694
00:37:10.199 --> 00:37:13.159
No matter how broken, how sinful you are, as long

695
00:37:13.199 --> 00:37:16.280
as you're walking on earth, you've got a chance to repent.

696
00:37:16.760 --> 00:37:21.079
Repent means change, and I have changed. I've broken some

697
00:37:21.559 --> 00:37:26.440
awful habits and it's all because of God. And God

698
00:37:26.559 --> 00:37:30.400
loves us. But Satan hates us, and the minute we

699
00:37:30.840 --> 00:37:36.039
become devoted to Christ and especially Mary, he will demonically

700
00:37:36.199 --> 00:37:39.079
attack you, which I've done. I've had it happen. I

701
00:37:39.239 --> 00:37:44.199
don't fear him. He's sewage, he's keV.

702
00:37:44.239 --> 00:37:46.199
We got to take a real quick break. Quick break

703
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will be back, stay with us. More from Kevin Matthews.

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Welcome back, Bill Martinez here, just about fourteen minutes before

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the top of the hot we're talking with Kevin Matthews.

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His movie, you know, Broken Mary. Kevin matthews story has

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one party since has two additional books. The latest book

778
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is Mary's Rody. Is that what you said, Yes, Mary's Roady.

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And so we're you know, catching up on Kevin's story. Kevin,

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before we pick up where we left off, what brought

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you back to the Catholic Church, Because this is happening,

782
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I mean this movement you know last year, the only

783
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religion that grew, of all the religions, the only religion

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Catholic Catholic was the only religion that grew last year.

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Yeah, and well God brought me back and God gave

786
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me a chance, and then you know it was God.

787
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It was just exactly my story. This journey is so

788
00:42:40.679 --> 00:42:44.360
parallel to Fatima. And I went to Fatima on one

789
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hundredth anniversary and that changed my life. I remember I

790
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was leaving. We were I went with the nun.

791
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So you already had did you already have broken Mary

792
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with you?

793
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Yes?

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And so the book has been released. I was at

795
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a statue on the property Fatima in August where if

796
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you go back in nineteen seventeen, the children were not

797
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allowed to go to the apparition site in August. The

798
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police kept them back. So Mary appears to the children,

799
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not at the apparition site in August, but at this

800
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site near their home. There's a statue, beautiful statue of Mary.

801
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And here I am in Fatima. I'm sitting all alone,

802
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and I look up at Mary and I said, Mary,

803
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I recorded a rosary app I've written a book. Now what?

804
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And when I said now what, I realized how derogatory

805
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that was. And something whizzed by my head, smashed on

806
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the ground, and I thought to myself, whatever that is.

807
00:43:45.440 --> 00:43:47.360
It hit the ground so hard it would have killed me.

808
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And I look down. It's a giant pine cone, and

809
00:43:51.440 --> 00:43:56.880
for the first time I hear the delicate, beautiful, graceful

810
00:43:57.079 --> 00:44:01.400
voice of our Blessed Mother say, plant the seeds of

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my rosary. Plant the seeds of my rosary. That's what

812
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a pine cone is. Father Mark comes up and I

813
00:44:08.719 --> 00:44:11.800
say to Father Martin, I said, how many pine cones

814
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do you see around me? And he thinks I'm insane. Anyways,

815
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he goes, I don't know. We're in an olive garden.

816
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And I go, no, this one almost hit me in

817
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the head. So Our Blessed Mother, through God, that's my job.

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Plant the seeds of the Rosary. And the Rosary is

819
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the Bible. The Rosary is the Gospel. The Rosary is

820
00:44:32.960 --> 00:44:35.880
Jesus Christ seen through the eyes of our Blessed Mother.

821
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And her womb is the first. You know, it is sacred.

822
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It is.

823
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The tabernacle. She's the very first tabernacle. So now what

824
00:44:48.079 --> 00:44:52.480
I do is I go and wherever I'm called, I go.

825
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And as soon as I think, wow, that's slowing down,

826
00:44:56.239 --> 00:44:59.079
boy Mary, is it? Are we done? At the phone rings?

827
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:03.159
And I've been I've been all over America. This film

828
00:45:03.280 --> 00:45:06.639
that is coming out in October. October seventh, I have

829
00:45:06.840 --> 00:45:10.599
had nothing to do with this. This is all God everything.

830
00:45:10.679 --> 00:45:14.039
There's no such thing as a coincidence. Bill. I met

831
00:45:14.079 --> 00:45:17.159
the ODB Films Eric I was talking at a men's

832
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conference six years ago. He heard my story and he said, wow,

833
00:45:21.000 --> 00:45:25.000
that's really interesting. So in the last six seven years

834
00:45:25.599 --> 00:45:31.480
it's been put together. And again God chooses the best

835
00:45:31.639 --> 00:45:34.840
to work with, like Matthew Kelly. My book's Matthew. He's huge.

836
00:45:35.199 --> 00:45:38.119
Here we go ODB Films and Phantom and all these

837
00:45:38.960 --> 00:45:43.199
these distributors, and you know, I'm working with the best.

838
00:45:43.920 --> 00:45:48.079
And it's coming out to one thousand theaters October seventh,

839
00:45:48.679 --> 00:45:51.800
right right, that is Do you realize how many rosaries

840
00:45:51.840 --> 00:45:54.159
are going to be said? And I want people to

841
00:45:54.280 --> 00:45:56.719
go out and watch it. It's one day only, and

842
00:45:57.280 --> 00:46:00.119
I recite the Rosary at the end of this and

843
00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:03.599
I recite the Sorrowful Mysteries, And that to me is

844
00:46:03.679 --> 00:46:08.159
why I'm alive, because Jesus Christ died for me. When

845
00:46:08.239 --> 00:46:11.639
I recite the Sorrowful Mysteries. On Tuesday and Friday, I

846
00:46:11.840 --> 00:46:14.800
asked Scott for nothing. I just say, God, you gave

847
00:46:14.880 --> 00:46:17.400
me your son. I want nothing. I just want to

848
00:46:17.480 --> 00:46:22.960
honor him. And I weep when the sorrowful mysteries, the

849
00:46:23.039 --> 00:46:27.639
Crucifixion of Christ. Mary was there, John was there, Mary

850
00:46:27.760 --> 00:46:31.360
Magdalene was there. How many people just walked away? And

851
00:46:31.840 --> 00:46:34.960
no matter if you're living on earth, you have a

852
00:46:35.159 --> 00:46:42.199
chance to clean yourself. Heaven is waiting. Eternity is a

853
00:46:42.320 --> 00:46:47.280
long time to be wrong, exactly, people, it's a long

854
00:46:47.400 --> 00:46:51.280
time to be wrong. You've got three places to go Heaven,

855
00:46:51.719 --> 00:46:55.039
Hell or purgatory. One guy I said that too. He goes, well,

856
00:46:55.039 --> 00:46:57.519
I don't believe in purgatory. And I said, okay, now

857
00:46:57.599 --> 00:47:01.239
you're down to two places, you know, And I love

858
00:47:01.400 --> 00:47:05.000
this beautiful phrase. You know, all sinners have a past,

859
00:47:05.400 --> 00:47:08.639
all or all saints have a past, All sinners have

860
00:47:08.800 --> 00:47:15.119
a future. That's powerful, it really is. And I want

861
00:47:15.239 --> 00:47:18.119
nothing else in the world to work. My boss has

862
00:47:18.199 --> 00:47:22.679
got he's got great benefits. The job ends, it never ends.

863
00:47:23.239 --> 00:47:26.280
And I'm literally I've never been happier in my life.

864
00:47:26.719 --> 00:47:29.360
Yeah, I can tell Kevin, what is it? Even with

865
00:47:29.519 --> 00:47:34.960
Catholics that do not understand the holiness of Mary and

866
00:47:35.079 --> 00:47:38.000
the significance of Mary. I mean, you know, some people,

867
00:47:38.159 --> 00:47:41.239
you know, they refer to it as mariology, and you know,

868
00:47:41.360 --> 00:47:47.280
I think, which is so disrespectful. You know how they

869
00:47:47.360 --> 00:47:49.639
try to position this and but.

870
00:47:50.039 --> 00:47:50.440
What is it?

871
00:47:50.719 --> 00:47:52.840
You know that? Well, if you look at my shirt,

872
00:47:52.960 --> 00:47:57.880
it's the Catholic. Catholic established thirty three a d Any

873
00:47:58.000 --> 00:48:00.880
church after that, and there's forty four one thousand now

874
00:48:01.400 --> 00:48:06.039
after that, Christ made the church I go to. And

875
00:48:06.320 --> 00:48:11.480
Christ was given life through the birth Mary gave him life.

876
00:48:12.119 --> 00:48:18.519
And it's absurd. I a saint once said, for those

877
00:48:18.639 --> 00:48:23.679
who ignore the blessed Virgin Mary will die in his sins.

878
00:48:24.639 --> 00:48:28.159
And if you are Catholic and you ignore Mary, you

879
00:48:28.320 --> 00:48:30.679
have to take a look at yourself. And I see

880
00:48:30.719 --> 00:48:34.599
people post on social media and are awful to Mary.

881
00:48:34.880 --> 00:48:37.480
Do you know Jesus Christ is watching you post that,

882
00:48:38.000 --> 00:48:41.480
and someday you're He's going to ask you why were

883
00:48:41.519 --> 00:48:44.719
you so mean? Why did you hate my mother so much?

884
00:48:45.000 --> 00:48:45.320
Exactly?

885
00:48:45.320 --> 00:48:45.360
What?

886
00:48:45.519 --> 00:48:47.760
Yeah, my mother? Why would you hate? And that's what

887
00:48:47.840 --> 00:48:49.360
I tell people. I said, how do you feel about

888
00:48:49.400 --> 00:48:49.760
your mother?

889
00:48:50.199 --> 00:48:52.119
Yeah? I love her? And when people say, well, you

890
00:48:52.159 --> 00:48:56.159
shouldn't worship her, I worshiped my mom. I adored my Mom.

891
00:48:56.480 --> 00:49:00.239
When I say the Rosary, I am with Mary, I

892
00:49:00.360 --> 00:49:03.840
am with Jesus, I am with God. It reminds me

893
00:49:03.960 --> 00:49:07.480
of the time I danced with my mother at our wedding.

894
00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:10.920
Every time I say the Rosary, I'm dancing with my

895
00:49:11.400 --> 00:49:17.440
beautiful mother. Mary and I have everything I've ever needed.

896
00:49:17.840 --> 00:49:22.960
She through God. You know, Mary works for God. She

897
00:49:23.199 --> 00:49:28.440
sends everyone to her son during the wedding feast at Cana.

898
00:49:29.320 --> 00:49:34.039
They ran out of wine exactly say, Hey, she said, Jesus,

899
00:49:34.119 --> 00:49:37.039
they're out of wine, and he calls her woman for

900
00:49:37.119 --> 00:49:41.519
the first time because she knows if he performs a miracle,

901
00:49:41.960 --> 00:49:46.880
he's now walking towards his death, his passion. But okay,

902
00:49:47.199 --> 00:49:51.199
so he makes wine his first public miracle. And then

903
00:49:51.639 --> 00:49:54.960
Mary says to the servants, she didn't say, listen to

904
00:49:55.039 --> 00:49:58.400
what I say. Do whatever he tells you to do,

905
00:49:58.760 --> 00:49:59.679
exactly right.

906
00:50:00.079 --> 00:50:00.239
Yeah.

907
00:50:00.760 --> 00:50:04.719
I love Mary, and I'm telling you she is put

908
00:50:04.800 --> 00:50:07.599
up with me. And she reminds me and my mom,

909
00:50:07.800 --> 00:50:10.000
you know, because there's some things I've done. I just

910
00:50:10.119 --> 00:50:14.360
hear her presence go oh, Kevin, Yeah, and okay, Okay,

911
00:50:14.880 --> 00:50:17.280
I got it, Mary, I got it. Okay, I'm sorry, Yep,

912
00:50:17.480 --> 00:50:19.920
I'm sorry. Let's go. I love her to death. I

913
00:50:20.000 --> 00:50:23.079
love Jesus Christ. He's my brother. God is my father.

914
00:50:23.239 --> 00:50:28.840
That's my family in heaven Padre Pio death Superu. The

915
00:50:29.000 --> 00:50:32.760
saints are my family. They belong to my church, the

916
00:50:32.880 --> 00:50:37.280
Catholic Church, which was founded in thirty three a d

917
00:50:37.800 --> 00:50:39.199
I love it, you know, And you.

918
00:50:39.239 --> 00:50:44.719
Think about Mary here she is sanctified by God, a

919
00:50:44.880 --> 00:50:51.760
virgin and was the assigned one to bring in God himself.

920
00:50:52.400 --> 00:50:56.400
Yeah, I you know, that just blows me away when

921
00:50:56.400 --> 00:51:00.639
you goil do you realize Mary is a human being.

922
00:51:01.280 --> 00:51:05.599
Joseph was a human being, The Disciples human beings. She

923
00:51:05.920 --> 00:51:09.960
had a chance. The angel Gabriel comes to her and

924
00:51:10.320 --> 00:51:15.159
ask her will she be the mother of Jesus. She

925
00:51:15.400 --> 00:51:20.239
had every right to say no, And the angels and

926
00:51:20.400 --> 00:51:25.159
God heaven stopped at that moment, waiting will she say yes?

927
00:51:25.719 --> 00:51:28.360
Will she say no? And if she would have said no,

928
00:51:31.400 --> 00:51:36.199
we're not here. But she said yes. And Mary what

929
00:51:36.400 --> 00:51:40.320
she saw from the birth to the crucifixion to the

930
00:51:40.440 --> 00:51:45.239
resurrection herself, she's with. Mary did not die. She died

931
00:51:45.360 --> 00:51:51.159
from love right. And I absolutely if anybody I guarantee you,

932
00:51:51.480 --> 00:51:54.159
if you are so far from the Catholic Church. And

933
00:51:54.239 --> 00:51:56.920
you think you've done too much sin, just go to Mary,

934
00:51:57.239 --> 00:51:59.679
say Mary, please take me to your son. Take me

935
00:51:59.679 --> 00:52:02.599
to your son. I guarantee you your life will change.

936
00:52:02.840 --> 00:52:06.440
Your life will change. And folks, you only have a

937
00:52:06.599 --> 00:52:09.239
little bit of time here on this earth, because once

938
00:52:09.320 --> 00:52:12.199
you die, in a nanosecond, you are in front of

939
00:52:12.360 --> 00:52:16.039
Jesus Christ, not God. Jesus Christ. I am the way,

940
00:52:16.679 --> 00:52:19.840
I am, the truth and the life. No one comes

941
00:52:19.920 --> 00:52:23.280
to me except through me. And he's going to is

942
00:52:23.360 --> 00:52:25.559
he going to know you, or is he going to

943
00:52:25.639 --> 00:52:28.480
say welcome, or is he going to say, oh, my

944
00:52:28.639 --> 00:52:30.239
mother spoke of you many.

945
00:52:30.199 --> 00:52:34.280
Times, come on in, or worse yet, I don't know you.

946
00:52:34.599 --> 00:52:37.400
I don't know you. And then you're in hell, and

947
00:52:37.519 --> 00:52:40.480
you do not want to be in hell. Hell is real, folks,

948
00:52:40.920 --> 00:52:44.000
and it's so this country is up on rocks, this

949
00:52:44.199 --> 00:52:48.960
world because they've lost their souls, they've lost their morals.

950
00:52:49.480 --> 00:52:53.400
They are they're detached from God. And as long as

951
00:52:53.440 --> 00:52:57.400
you're on earth you can connect again. But don't die

952
00:52:58.159 --> 00:52:59.639
and be detached.

953
00:53:01.159 --> 00:53:05.159
Well, Kevin Matthews, A story of stories, I have to say.

954
00:53:05.719 --> 00:53:08.440
And it's been such an honor to have this time

955
00:53:08.480 --> 00:53:08.639
with you.

956
00:53:09.880 --> 00:53:12.679
And again, it's not my story, it's our story. We're

957
00:53:12.760 --> 00:53:16.559
all broken, but we're loved by God. And please everyone.

958
00:53:17.199 --> 00:53:21.480
October seventh is in theaters right by you. You can

959
00:53:21.559 --> 00:53:26.480
go to brokenmryfilm dot com and find the theater near you.

960
00:53:27.199 --> 00:53:29.039
Or if you would like to me to come and

961
00:53:29.159 --> 00:53:31.519
talk to you, or if you want to see the film,

962
00:53:31.599 --> 00:53:34.599
you can get I recite the Rosary for free. Go

963
00:53:34.760 --> 00:53:39.119
to Brokenmary dot com. I'd love to come and talk.

964
00:53:39.199 --> 00:53:43.440
I'd love to come. And Florida. We were just endorsed

965
00:53:43.480 --> 00:53:48.239
by the Bishop of Florida and down in Saint Augustine

966
00:53:48.880 --> 00:53:54.400
and the parish, and there's over two hundred thousand Catholics

967
00:53:54.440 --> 00:53:57.199
in this parish. He watched the movie we gave him

968
00:53:57.199 --> 00:54:01.039
in advance. He loved it. He's endorsing it. And my

969
00:54:01.280 --> 00:54:04.400
goal is to go over and and see our Holy

970
00:54:04.519 --> 00:54:07.920
Father Pope Leo. Because I was in Chicago, he was

971
00:54:08.000 --> 00:54:11.039
in Chicago. I know what kind of pizza he loves,

972
00:54:11.360 --> 00:54:14.760
and I know he loves the Virgin Mary because his

973
00:54:14.960 --> 00:54:18.119
first prayer as both was a Hail Mary.

974
00:54:18.320 --> 00:54:21.480
Amen Amen. Kevin Matthews, God, bless you. Thank you so

975
00:54:21.599 --> 00:54:24.440
much for I love you, Bill, and we've got to

976
00:54:24.440 --> 00:54:27.280
get together and just yet you're on tell me about

977
00:54:27.360 --> 00:54:29.280
wolf Man Jack because he was my hero.

978
00:54:29.920 --> 00:54:30.119
Yeah.

979
00:54:30.320 --> 00:54:32.599
Well, well we'll have some time to get into some

980
00:54:32.760 --> 00:54:33.760
old radio stories, I.

981
00:54:33.880 --> 00:54:35.800
Promise, all right, bring me to Florida.

982
00:54:36.079 --> 00:54:37.840
Hey, you got it. We'll do. I'm gonna work on it.

983
00:54:37.880 --> 00:54:41.320
I'm gonna talk to my brother knights. Okay, yeah, involved

984
00:54:41.320 --> 00:54:43.679
with the Knights of Columbus. You know, so you're your

985
00:54:43.679 --> 00:54:44.360
a knight as well?

986
00:54:44.599 --> 00:54:46.079
Yes, sir, Oh my god?

987
00:54:46.159 --> 00:54:48.360
What what are your third degree or your fourth degree?

988
00:54:48.880 --> 00:54:49.440
I'm third?

989
00:54:49.800 --> 00:54:52.079
Your third degree? Okay? You need you need to be

990
00:54:52.079 --> 00:54:54.920
a fourth degree. That's patriotism. And then what happens, see

991
00:54:55.000 --> 00:54:56.719
right now, you see you're a knight. As soon as

992
00:54:56.719 --> 00:54:58.639
you become a fourth degree, then you become a sur knight.

993
00:54:59.079 --> 00:55:02.280
Oh boy, yea, well can you get Mary's I'm Mary's

994
00:55:02.400 --> 00:55:05.000
roady right now, and I know he's got me busy.

995
00:55:05.119 --> 00:55:07.599
But if I have time, I'll be a fourth degree.

996
00:55:07.800 --> 00:55:09.280
Okay, we'll talk about it all right.

997
00:55:09.320 --> 00:55:12.079
Hey, buddy, I'll maybe make me a fourth down at Florida.

998
00:55:12.400 --> 00:55:13.800
Hey, I'd love to Are you kidding me?

999
00:55:13.920 --> 00:55:15.840
Okay? Then let me go and let me bring our

1000
00:55:15.920 --> 00:55:17.119
Lady of the Broken.

1001
00:55:17.159 --> 00:55:19.719
Oh I'd love it all right, you're onless you're talking about,

1002
00:55:19.719 --> 00:55:20.320
We'll set it up.

1003
00:55:20.440 --> 00:55:20.760
Take care.

1004
00:55:20.840 --> 00:55:22.000
God bless Kevin Matthews.

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Getting America back on track, Bill Martinez.

1039
00:57:31.760 --> 00:57:35.679
Live, Well, good morning to welcome back Bill Martinez here.

1040
00:57:35.719 --> 00:57:38.599
And yes we've got the one and only doctor George

1041
00:57:38.679 --> 00:57:41.320
Barno with us right now. Hey, doctor George, how you doing?

1042
00:57:41.400 --> 00:57:41.639
Ready?

1043
00:57:42.440 --> 00:57:45.679
Well, I'm doing okay. I'm still out of this time zone.

1044
00:57:45.960 --> 00:57:49.679
I just go back from Africa three weeks long there like, yeah,

1045
00:57:49.800 --> 00:57:52.400
doing great. Yeah, it's wonderful to be home, I'll tell you.

1046
00:57:52.840 --> 00:57:55.719
Well, and thank god you're not traveling during the labor

1047
00:57:55.800 --> 00:57:58.639
day Russian all. But you know, it's just when when

1048
00:57:58.679 --> 00:58:00.559
you're making that kind of link to trip, you just

1049
00:58:01.239 --> 00:58:04.079
take your medication, sit back and try to relax as

1050
00:58:04.119 --> 00:58:07.280
best you can. I get that, those long airplane trips

1051
00:58:07.320 --> 00:58:09.119
they get to you. But thank you so much for

1052
00:58:09.360 --> 00:58:12.719
making time for us and fighting through this. Doctor George

1053
00:58:12.719 --> 00:58:15.760
Barnet the director of research at Arizona Christian University's Cultural

1054
00:58:15.800 --> 00:58:19.920
Research Center. He's the author of Raising Spiritual Champions. This year,

1055
00:58:20.000 --> 00:58:23.039
what he's done on behalf of we the people and

1056
00:58:23.119 --> 00:58:26.519
all of us is they have embarked on a rather

1057
00:58:26.719 --> 00:58:31.599
ambitious research program this year, the American Worldview Inventory of

1058
00:58:31.639 --> 00:58:35.079
twenty twenty five, which is a national study for strengthening

1059
00:58:35.480 --> 00:58:39.360
the worldview of Americans. And there's a reason. I mean,

1060
00:58:39.599 --> 00:58:42.280
first of all, the reason this came to the forefront

1061
00:58:42.400 --> 00:58:44.320
is you realize, hey, we got a problem here in

1062
00:58:44.440 --> 00:58:46.960
River City, right, Well, we sure do.

1063
00:58:47.119 --> 00:58:48.639
I mean, you look at the fact that you've got

1064
00:58:48.679 --> 00:58:54.239
about sixty seven sixty six percent of adults who claim

1065
00:58:54.360 --> 00:58:56.880
to be Christians. So you would think, okay, well, then

1066
00:58:56.920 --> 00:58:59.440
they believe in the Bible and that's how they want

1067
00:58:59.480 --> 00:59:01.800
to live their lives. And yet when we look at

1068
00:59:01.840 --> 00:59:05.440
the data, what we find is that only four percent

1069
00:59:05.480 --> 00:59:09.280
of adults in America have a biblical worldview. And all

1070
00:59:09.360 --> 00:59:13.559
that means is that you possess pretty much the same

1071
00:59:13.679 --> 00:59:18.280
beliefs that Jesus had, and because we do what we believe,

1072
00:59:18.559 --> 00:59:21.400
that would then imply that, okay, then you're going to

1073
00:59:21.480 --> 00:59:23.440
live like him too, because you're going to take those

1074
00:59:23.519 --> 00:59:27.079
beliefs converted into that kind of lifestyle. But you know,

1075
00:59:27.159 --> 00:59:29.599
when you've only got four out of every one hundred

1076
00:59:29.679 --> 00:59:33.639
adults in America who have a biblical worldview, only eleven

1077
00:59:33.719 --> 00:59:38.119
percent of the people who regularly attend Christian churches, So

1078
00:59:39.519 --> 00:59:42.559
twelve percent of the people who we would call theologically

1079
00:59:42.679 --> 00:59:46.639
defined born again Christians have a biblical worldview, seven out

1080
00:59:46.679 --> 00:59:50.320
of eight of them don't. So there's been a huge

1081
00:59:51.039 --> 00:59:54.440
mismatch between who we say we are and what we

1082
00:59:54.559 --> 00:59:57.280
believe in how we live. So that's why we do

1083
00:59:57.400 --> 00:59:59.719
this kind of research. We're doing it every year and

1084
00:59:59.760 --> 01:00:02.920
now the last six years, tracking what's been going on

1085
01:00:03.119 --> 01:00:07.039
and what we've discovered is that that incidence of biblical

1086
01:00:07.119 --> 01:00:11.760
worldview has been declining. And as we find that the

1087
01:00:11.840 --> 01:00:15.920
Baby Boom generation, the older generation in America is dying

1088
01:00:16.039 --> 01:00:19.320
off a little bit every year, well, that number continues

1089
01:00:19.360 --> 01:00:23.159
to go down because boomers had the highest level of

1090
01:00:23.239 --> 01:00:28.159
biblical worldview. And as you progressed to younger and younger generations,

1091
01:00:28.280 --> 01:00:32.440
we find that each succeeding generation has a lower incidence

1092
01:00:32.960 --> 01:00:37.800
of biblical worldview. So, for instance, as Gen Z becomes

1093
01:00:37.880 --> 01:00:42.360
a larger part of the population, the biblical worldview incidence

1094
01:00:42.400 --> 01:00:46.480
declines because only two percent of them have a biblical worldview.

1095
01:00:46.639 --> 01:00:49.960
So we're not moving in the right direction. And we

1096
01:00:50.079 --> 01:00:51.880
want to be able to show, well, why what is

1097
01:00:51.960 --> 01:00:54.880
it that we believe or we don't believe? How does

1098
01:00:55.000 --> 01:00:58.159
that then impact the way that we live? And so

1099
01:00:58.360 --> 01:01:00.880
many of the social issues that we're wrestling with in

1100
01:01:00.960 --> 01:01:05.480
America today, we're wrestling with them, whether it's transgenderism, whether

1101
01:01:05.519 --> 01:01:09.679
it's being pro choice, you know, all of these kinds

1102
01:01:09.719 --> 01:01:11.800
of things have to do with worldview.

1103
01:01:13.519 --> 01:01:16.239
In your research, did you find a kind of a

1104
01:01:16.440 --> 01:01:21.679
lynchpin or a specific tipping point that really started to

1105
01:01:22.440 --> 01:01:25.920
exacerbate this decline or was it just a natural erosion?

1106
01:01:26.519 --> 01:01:30.400
Well, actually, Bill, we found that there are seven particular

1107
01:01:30.519 --> 01:01:35.440
beliefs that form the foundation of a biblical worldview, and

1108
01:01:35.599 --> 01:01:40.920
those would be having an orthodox biblical understanding of who

1109
01:01:41.039 --> 01:01:46.800
God is. Secondly, would be understanding that we're born into sin.

1110
01:01:47.559 --> 01:01:51.679
It's part of our human nature, and it's got consequences.

1111
01:01:51.760 --> 01:01:54.199
Thirdly is recognizing the only way you can deal with

1112
01:01:54.320 --> 01:01:58.239
those consequences of sin is by embracing Jesus Christ as

1113
01:01:58.280 --> 01:02:01.639
your Lord and savior, confessing your sins to him, asking

1114
01:02:01.719 --> 01:02:05.239
him to forgive you for those sins and to raise

1115
01:02:05.320 --> 01:02:07.960
you up to be a real follower of his.

1116
01:02:08.840 --> 01:02:09.000
You know.

1117
01:02:09.079 --> 01:02:13.000
A fourth foundation would be saying that there's no such

1118
01:02:13.079 --> 01:02:16.159
thing as absolute moral truth. I mean, that's not biblical,

1119
01:02:16.599 --> 01:02:20.039
and yet that's what most Americans believe. So recognizing that

1120
01:02:20.119 --> 01:02:23.960
there is absolute moral truth. Fifthly, recognizing that you can

1121
01:02:24.039 --> 01:02:28.039
identify those truths through the scriptures. It's the Bible that

1122
01:02:28.119 --> 01:02:31.199
helps us to know the difference between something that's moral

1123
01:02:31.239 --> 01:02:35.480
and in moral right and wrong and so forth. You know.

1124
01:02:36.039 --> 01:02:39.960
A sixth element would be recognizing that God calls all

1125
01:02:40.000 --> 01:02:43.119
of us to be successful, but that doesn't have anything

1126
01:02:43.159 --> 01:02:46.239
to do with money or position or status or prestige.

1127
01:02:46.920 --> 01:02:49.639
It only has to do with consistent obedience to God.

1128
01:02:49.760 --> 01:02:54.559
That's what success in life is. And then seventhly, recognizing

1129
01:02:54.679 --> 01:02:57.840
that our purpose in life is to know love and

1130
01:02:57.920 --> 01:03:00.360
servic with all our hurt, line, strength, and soul. So

1131
01:03:00.559 --> 01:03:04.920
those seven things. What we've been doing is tracking many

1132
01:03:05.000 --> 01:03:07.639
more things than that, but we've seen all of those

1133
01:03:07.880 --> 01:03:12.000
on the declining right. And so that's what's really when

1134
01:03:12.039 --> 01:03:15.079
you when you take away the foundation, you've got nothing

1135
01:03:15.159 --> 01:03:17.840
to build on, and right you had built is going

1136
01:03:17.880 --> 01:03:21.639
to collapse. And that's the story of Christianity in America today.

1137
01:03:22.320 --> 01:03:25.039
Yeah, when you go back, and I always start within

1138
01:03:25.119 --> 01:03:27.360
the beginning, you know, you go to the book of Genesis,

1139
01:03:27.960 --> 01:03:32.199
and God told Adam, told Adam specifically, if you eat

1140
01:03:32.960 --> 01:03:36.840
of the tree of good and evil, surely you will die.

1141
01:03:38.239 --> 01:03:41.480
And and of course then Satan comes in, says did

1142
01:03:41.559 --> 01:03:46.360
God really say? And then what? Then they partake? And

1143
01:03:47.800 --> 01:03:50.920
and maybe in an instant they didn't quite realize what

1144
01:03:51.199 --> 01:03:55.599
God meant by surely you would die. And it really

1145
01:03:55.760 --> 01:03:58.639
imparted on the rest of humanity from that day forth.

1146
01:03:58.719 --> 01:04:01.039
And tell Jesus death sentence, didn't it?

1147
01:04:01.880 --> 01:04:05.199
Well, it really did, And that helps to explain why

1148
01:04:06.159 --> 01:04:10.400
the fastest growing faith in America today is what I've

1149
01:04:10.440 --> 01:04:13.480
called the don'ts, the people who don't know if God exists.

1150
01:04:13.559 --> 01:04:16.239
They don't believe that God exists, and they don't care

1151
01:04:16.320 --> 01:04:19.079
if God exists. And the reason for all of that

1152
01:04:19.360 --> 01:04:23.000
is because we've now made life to be about us

1153
01:04:23.639 --> 01:04:27.079
rather than the one who created us and who created

1154
01:04:27.159 --> 01:04:30.400
us with his purpose for our life. Instead, what we've

1155
01:04:30.440 --> 01:04:33.639
said is now we're really the center of things. We're

1156
01:04:33.679 --> 01:04:37.199
going to do what makes us happy, and that's going

1157
01:04:37.239 --> 01:04:40.480
to be the basis of our life. So yeah, I mean,

1158
01:04:40.880 --> 01:04:44.440
when you take God out of the equation as completely

1159
01:04:44.559 --> 01:04:48.159
as we're doing in America today, you can't help us

1160
01:04:48.159 --> 01:04:49.559
see the society collapse.

1161
01:04:50.239 --> 01:04:53.440
Well, God gave us a conscience, and so basically what

1162
01:04:53.599 --> 01:04:56.599
Paul warned us about in searing that conscience, as you're

1163
01:04:56.639 --> 01:05:00.159
pointing out, is that as we continue to turn are

1164
01:05:00.239 --> 01:05:03.079
back on God, we share that part of that God

1165
01:05:03.199 --> 01:05:09.880
conscious that makes us, you know, decidedly and purposely unaware

1166
01:05:10.320 --> 01:05:15.000
of God's salvation and his solution to what happened in

1167
01:05:15.079 --> 01:05:17.119
the garden all those years ago.

1168
01:05:17.119 --> 01:05:22.239
Right absolutely, And this year in particular, we started focusing

1169
01:05:22.480 --> 01:05:25.000
on some of these what we call seven cornerstones of

1170
01:05:25.039 --> 01:05:28.719
a biblical worldview. So the American world View Inventory this

1171
01:05:28.880 --> 01:05:31.559
year has been focusing on things like truth and sin

1172
01:05:31.719 --> 01:05:35.679
and salvation, some of the core elements of what we

1173
01:05:35.920 --> 01:05:39.440
have to believe to get life right. And of course,

1174
01:05:39.480 --> 01:05:42.920
what we're finding is that people instead of saying, yeah,

1175
01:05:43.199 --> 01:05:46.840
I'm going to look for truth in God's word, what

1176
01:05:46.960 --> 01:05:49.199
they're saying is, I'm going to look for truth inside

1177
01:05:49.280 --> 01:05:53.480
myself and based on my feelings, all know whether or

1178
01:05:53.519 --> 01:05:56.760
not something is right or wrong. And then we look

1179
01:05:56.800 --> 01:05:59.880
at things like sin, and we're finding that such a

1180
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huge proportion of Americans, well, they believe that sin is real,

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they believe it exists, but they don't believe it's pertinent

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to them because they're not sinners. It's those other people

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who are sinners and they've got.

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To deal with it.

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And boy, I sure wish they would, because they'd make

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my life a lot better. I feel pretty good about myself,

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but I don't feel very good about those other sinners

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out there. So I mean, that's kind of the prevailing

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mentality in America that it's not a me problem, it's

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a them problem.

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Yeah, it's amazing how that has crypt it. But that's

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the nature of man outside of God, right, I mean,

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because well, you know, let's get again, we go back

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to the garden. You know who did Adam blame? Oh

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that woman. It's that woman you gave me.

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It's true, and we're still doing that today, you know.

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And part of the reason I can't help but feel

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is because people don't really spend much time reading the Bible.

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People spend less time studying the Bible, and we spend

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even less time than that reflecting on what it all

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means and then trying to take it and integrate it

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into our lives. When we measure worldview, we have three

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different categories of the population. We've got what we call

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integrated disciples, emergent followers and world citizens. And integrated disciples

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01:07:21.800 --> 01:07:24.480
are the people who have a biblical worldview. That four

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percent of the population. And we name them that because

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what we noticed in the research is that people have

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the mindset of Jesus. Aren't content just to say, oh,

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I know what he thinks. Their thrust in life is

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to figure out, how can I integrate that into everything

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I think can.

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Do exactly, George, we got to go to a quick break.

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We'll pick it up on the other side. More from

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We're back with you.

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The director of research at Arizona Christian University's Cultural Research Center.

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He's the author of Raising Spiritual Champions. That's what we

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want to do, Doctor George Barnett continues with us. George,

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go ahead and pick it up from where we left off.

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Go ahead, Yes.

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So the whole idea of having the mind of Christ

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is so that you can live the life of Christ. Yes,

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which means you're going to have to integrate His truth

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into every decision you make. That's what a world hew does.

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It helps you make every decision that you make. And

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01:12:59.399 --> 01:13:02.520
so when you look at our culture and wonder why

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01:13:02.600 --> 01:13:04.920
are we going to pieces, it's because of the decisions

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01:13:04.960 --> 01:13:08.479
we make, and we're making the decisions we make because

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01:13:08.560 --> 01:13:12.279
we don't have a biblical worldview. We have, you know,

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01:13:12.479 --> 01:13:15.760
basically a worldview that's known as syncretism. Ninety two percent

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01:13:16.239 --> 01:13:20.840
of Americans are syncretous. I'm sorry, eighty eight percent, and

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01:13:21.079 --> 01:13:23.479
so you know, you get nine out of ten people say, nah,

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I'm just going to pick and choose what I like

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01:13:25.159 --> 01:13:28.680
from all the different philosophies of life available to me,

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as long as they make me feel good, as long

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01:13:30.680 --> 01:13:33.800
as they give me the kind of life that I desire.

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That it's the right worldview for me. Not what an

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01:13:37.199 --> 01:13:40.399
integrated disciple would do. An integrated disciple goes back and says,

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01:13:40.439 --> 01:13:43.640
what would Jesus do in this situation? How can I

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imitate the master? Because that's what a disciple does. We

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have master. We try to study what do they think,

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01:13:50.640 --> 01:13:52.720
what do they do? Why did they do it? How

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01:13:52.800 --> 01:13:55.520
did they start thinking that way? I want to be

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01:13:55.800 --> 01:13:59.039
like that. That's why this person is my master. And

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01:13:59.159 --> 01:14:00.880
I think it goes back, you know, in the old

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01:14:01.000 --> 01:14:04.720
argument that, yeah, is Jesus just your savior or is

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he your Lord and savior? And for an integrated disciple.

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He's got to be your lord as well. It's not

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simply enough to take out the eternal fire insurance you

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01:14:14.319 --> 01:14:17.159
want to be like Jesus, you need to make the

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same decisions he makes to be like him. And that's

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what makes integrated disciples such a special group of people.

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And George, I gotta tell you, one of the things

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that keeps cycling back recently is this again, this idea

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of good and evil that some people, you know, when

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01:14:33.600 --> 01:14:35.840
you say good and evil, they kind of you can

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01:14:35.880 --> 01:14:37.840
see the look on their face. It almost snaps their

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01:14:37.960 --> 01:14:44.720
neck because they just resist this idea. But you know,

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01:14:44.840 --> 01:14:48.479
with Jesus, there was no confusion about what was good

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and what was evil. And if we're going to put

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on the mind and mind of Christ and alter our

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01:14:54.199 --> 01:14:59.800
lives appropriately with him being our lord, then we need

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01:14:59.840 --> 01:15:02.119
to understand. And I think this is the big failing

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01:15:02.159 --> 01:15:06.000
of today's culture, is their confusion over that which is evil.

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Yeah, and Bill, in our current report, what we discovered

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01:15:11.720 --> 01:15:16.800
is that seventy percent seven to zero percent of Americans

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01:15:16.920 --> 01:15:22.000
believe that people are basically good at heart. Now, nothing

1353
01:15:22.039 --> 01:15:24.760
could be further from the biblical truth, right, you know,

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01:15:24.880 --> 01:15:27.560
which says that no one is good, no, not one.

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01:15:27.760 --> 01:15:32.279
You know, the human heart is evil, it's corrupt, you know,

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01:15:32.600 --> 01:15:35.920
it leads us away from God rather to God. You know,

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we need the Holy Spirit to be invited to come

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and live in that heart to put us on the

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01:15:42.199 --> 01:15:45.239
right track. Most Americans don't do that. In fact, we

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01:15:45.359 --> 01:15:49.920
found that a huge majority of regular church attenders, a

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01:15:50.039 --> 01:15:54.359
huge majority of not only self professed Christians, but theologically

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01:15:54.479 --> 01:15:59.199
identified born again Christians, huge majority of Protestants, huge majority

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01:15:59.239 --> 01:16:02.239
of Catholics, take your pick who you want to look at.

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Americans are convinced that we are good people, and because

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01:16:07.239 --> 01:16:12.359
we're essentially good, our hearts are good, that we can't

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01:16:12.399 --> 01:16:15.119
go wrong, that the choices we make must be right.

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And that's why we so desperately need to get back

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01:16:18.600 --> 01:16:22.960
into God's word and understand his perspective on us, not

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our perspective on ourselves.

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Right exactly, and as many people and I hear it

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all the time, George, you know, I'm praying, you know,

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for revival, and I'm saying, well, but we've got to

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come to repentance first. We have to see the difference.

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You know, just like in the Old Testament, when you

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have a discovery of the word of God right, and

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what would happen is the children of Israel would come

1377
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together and the King would lead them into this, you know,

1378
01:16:51.199 --> 01:16:54.439
this posture of repentance and understanding, Hey, look at this

1379
01:16:54.640 --> 01:16:57.680
is what God says. How how do we measure up

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01:16:57.880 --> 01:17:01.880
against his word and his comments? And when the people

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01:17:02.039 --> 01:17:06.279
realized and it's by god grace and mercy that they

1382
01:17:06.319 --> 01:17:08.439
were able to see this, because just like you said,

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we're so convinced that we're good, that we were spiritually

1384
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blinded to the truth and that blocks that ability for

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us to enter into repentance and a revival and a

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reconciliation with a holy God.

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Absolutely, And for me, you know, when I hear somebody say, oh,

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01:17:25.359 --> 01:17:29.560
you know, there's revival going on. Oh, that's interesting, let's

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01:17:29.600 --> 01:17:32.079
talk about that. You know, how do you define that?

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01:17:32.319 --> 01:17:34.880
And what what I find, at least in the conversations

1391
01:17:34.960 --> 01:17:38.800
I've had with people, is that there's a confusion between

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01:17:39.039 --> 01:17:44.079
decisions and conversions. You know, we we I believe, have

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the capacity to persuade people to temporarily believe something or

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01:17:49.680 --> 01:17:54.760
say something, and so we can get people to say, sure,

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01:17:55.239 --> 01:17:57.640
I'd like Jesus to be my savior, why would I

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want to go to hell? You know, in America today,

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01:18:00.039 --> 01:18:02.439
we find in our research only two percent of Americans

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believe they're going to go to hell.

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And yet when we.

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Look at the proportion of adults who would say that

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they're living their life for Christ, that they read the Bible,

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that they're they're a disciple of Jesus because they're loving

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01:18:18.199 --> 01:18:23.279
other people consistently, they're following his word consistently. They're every

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01:18:23.399 --> 01:18:25.840
day trying to produce fruit for the Kingdom of God.

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That's their highest goal for the day. In love, honor, cherish,

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01:18:30.199 --> 01:18:33.600
worship God. That's what they live for. I mean, those

1407
01:18:33.720 --> 01:18:37.800
numbers are really depressed. So there's that big difference between sure,

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01:18:38.239 --> 01:18:41.800
I'd like to avoid hell versus I'd like to give

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01:18:41.920 --> 01:18:44.640
my life over to Christ. I'd like to live it

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01:18:44.800 --> 01:18:49.520
for Him according to his ways, measured by his standards.

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And you know, let's measure by the number of transformed

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lives as opposed to the number of people filly in

1413
01:18:59.439 --> 01:19:03.279
auditory or filling a church sanctuary. You know, that's all

1414
01:19:03.359 --> 01:19:05.800
well and good, but my fear is that what's happened

1415
01:19:05.840 --> 01:19:08.399
in America is that the church has become one of

1416
01:19:08.439 --> 01:19:12.479
the most effective marketing organizations, but it has not become

1417
01:19:12.520 --> 01:19:14.399
a very effective ministry organization.

1418
01:19:15.239 --> 01:19:15.399
Right.

1419
01:19:15.960 --> 01:19:19.199
I think that's an excellent point because sometimes people misunderstand.

1420
01:19:19.199 --> 01:19:21.319
I mean, the other day, Oh, George, I'm telling you,

1421
01:19:21.359 --> 01:19:24.239
I wanted to throw a brick at the TV. There

1422
01:19:24.520 --> 01:19:30.640
was a pastor in Minneapolis saying that, you know, Jesus

1423
01:19:30.920 --> 01:19:32.800
was a Dei agent.

1424
01:19:37.399 --> 01:19:41.439
Well, yeah, I mean, if you watch the television long enough,

1425
01:19:41.560 --> 01:19:44.760
you know, and listen to some of the wacky radio programs,

1426
01:19:44.880 --> 01:19:48.880
read some of the unbelievable things that are written about

1427
01:19:48.920 --> 01:19:50.640
the Christian faith these days.

1428
01:19:50.760 --> 01:19:55.479
Yes, you'll find out that Jesus has been redefined to

1429
01:19:55.640 --> 01:20:01.399
fit our needs. Yes, as opposed to us surrendering our

1430
01:20:01.520 --> 01:20:04.479
lives to him and saying, Lord, make me who you

1431
01:20:04.640 --> 01:20:07.520
put me on the earth to be. That's that's the

1432
01:20:07.600 --> 01:20:09.600
only way I want to live. That's the only way

1433
01:20:09.640 --> 01:20:12.680
I want to determine success in my life. But then

1434
01:20:12.760 --> 01:20:15.840
that goes back to these seven biblical cornerstones that we've

1435
01:20:15.880 --> 01:20:16.560
been talking about.

1436
01:20:16.600 --> 01:20:18.520
You know, truth, Where does truth come from?

1437
01:20:18.960 --> 01:20:21.439
It doesn't come from your heart, It doesn't come from

1438
01:20:21.479 --> 01:20:24.319
your feelings, It doesn't come from the conversations you have

1439
01:20:24.439 --> 01:20:27.079
with your friends. It doesn't come from your bank account.

1440
01:20:27.479 --> 01:20:31.079
You know, how how much time and how deeply do

1441
01:20:31.239 --> 01:20:35.079
we dive into the Bible every day trying to really

1442
01:20:35.239 --> 01:20:38.079
glean what is God trying to tell me? What does

1443
01:20:38.119 --> 01:20:38.880
he want to teach me?

1444
01:20:39.359 --> 01:20:41.159
He wants me to be transformed.

1445
01:20:41.199 --> 01:20:43.239
I know that, you know, go back to Romans twelve

1446
01:20:43.319 --> 01:20:46.000
two and it talks about the importance of having your

1447
01:20:46.159 --> 01:20:49.720
mind transformed so that you can you can live in

1448
01:20:49.840 --> 01:20:53.920
that imagery. Price So yeah, I mean, we've we've really

1449
01:20:54.000 --> 01:20:56.840
got to get back to basics. America likes to think

1450
01:20:56.960 --> 01:21:01.960
that it's so sophisticated the altically and that's one of

1451
01:21:02.159 --> 01:21:04.560
the great undoings of the church in America day. I

1452
01:21:04.600 --> 01:21:10.159
can't tell you how many seminaries, Protestant and Catholic seminaries

1453
01:21:10.800 --> 01:21:12.880
teach things like you were just alluding to. You know,

1454
01:21:13.039 --> 01:21:16.560
Jesus was a great DEI guy, you know, Jesus you know,

1455
01:21:17.439 --> 01:21:20.119
probably was homosexual, you know, I mean, I.

1456
01:21:20.159 --> 01:21:23.000
Mean, oh my gosh, yeah, it just it drives me nuts.

1457
01:21:23.039 --> 01:21:26.680
It's just like you know, you read in the Old Testament.

1458
01:21:27.000 --> 01:21:30.000
God doesn't like to be misrepresented.

1459
01:21:31.039 --> 01:21:31.239
You know.

1460
01:21:31.439 --> 01:21:34.439
I mean, it's like, oh, when people say stuff like that,

1461
01:21:34.560 --> 01:21:36.520
I think, oh, Lord, have mercy.

1462
01:21:37.520 --> 01:21:39.880
Yeah, I mean, there is a price to be paid

1463
01:21:40.000 --> 01:21:44.000
for everything you think, everything you say, everything you do,

1464
01:21:44.800 --> 01:21:47.439
And so we've got to watch very carefully. We've got

1465
01:21:47.520 --> 01:21:50.520
a guide, very carefully what we think, which is why

1466
01:21:50.640 --> 01:21:53.359
this idea of a biblical worldview. We're not trying to

1467
01:21:53.399 --> 01:21:56.159
become perfect. We're never going to be perfect. We're sinners.

1468
01:21:56.600 --> 01:21:58.439
We're always going to be sinners, but we can be

1469
01:21:58.560 --> 01:22:01.760
forgiven for that sin. We can be transformed by the

1470
01:22:01.840 --> 01:22:05.880
one who forgives us. Definitely willing to surrender our lives

1471
01:22:05.960 --> 01:22:08.720
to him if we're willing to say, I don't want

1472
01:22:08.760 --> 01:22:12.000
an agenda, I want God's agenda. And that's what I've

1473
01:22:12.039 --> 01:22:14.439
got to wrap my time on Earth around.

1474
01:22:15.039 --> 01:22:17.119
Well, And like you said, George, this is why the

1475
01:22:17.239 --> 01:22:22.960
truth is so foundational and so critical. You know, these modernists,

1476
01:22:24.039 --> 01:22:26.520
you know interesting that one of the first things they

1477
01:22:26.560 --> 01:22:29.319
attack is that, you know, did God really say? And

1478
01:22:29.399 --> 01:22:32.800
truth is relevant? And all this is that it violates

1479
01:22:33.239 --> 01:22:37.039
this critical principle that God created the heavens and the earth,

1480
01:22:37.359 --> 01:22:40.520
and the boundaries were all set. This is all just

1481
01:22:40.680 --> 01:22:41.640
like gravity, right.

1482
01:22:42.319 --> 01:22:42.520
Yeah.

1483
01:22:43.279 --> 01:22:45.279
And you know when we started out this year with

1484
01:22:45.319 --> 01:22:47.680
the American World, the inventory we looked at. What do

1485
01:22:47.800 --> 01:22:50.439
people really think about God? I mean, if you need

1486
01:22:50.680 --> 01:22:54.399
a simple starting place, start there, because most Americans have

1487
01:22:54.520 --> 01:22:58.000
it wrong. We really don't understand who he is. We

1488
01:22:58.920 --> 01:23:03.399
assign values and beliefs to him that he doesn't possess,

1489
01:23:03.560 --> 01:23:06.840
never has possessed. He'd be embarrassed to possess them.

1490
01:23:06.920 --> 01:23:07.640
We should be too.

1491
01:23:08.279 --> 01:23:10.960
And so simply going back, as you say, start in

1492
01:23:10.960 --> 01:23:14.800
the beginning and begin to get a good understanding, a good, deep,

1493
01:23:15.039 --> 01:23:16.199
solid rock foundation.

1494
01:23:16.840 --> 01:23:18.760
Who is God? What is he about?

1495
01:23:19.319 --> 01:23:22.640
Why did he make you? What kind of person does

1496
01:23:22.680 --> 01:23:25.199
he want you to be? What's the calling he's given to?

1497
01:23:25.279 --> 01:23:28.640
You can make yourself to that calling and to his values,

1498
01:23:28.720 --> 01:23:32.039
his ways, his beliefs, and you'll live a meaningful.

1499
01:23:31.680 --> 01:23:37.319
Life totally different. I mean, your mind, first of all,

1500
01:23:37.399 --> 01:23:40.880
will be renewed and you'll be you know, like a guitar.

1501
01:23:41.479 --> 01:23:43.600
You know, you've got to tune up those strings to

1502
01:23:43.720 --> 01:23:46.520
the right notes so that you have the right to

1503
01:23:46.760 --> 01:23:49.680
the right harmonics right actually make music.

1504
01:23:50.199 --> 01:23:54.359
Yeah, yeah, and we aren't making music, but we're making

1505
01:23:54.560 --> 01:23:58.199
music that pleases the devil rather than music that pleases

1506
01:23:58.239 --> 01:24:01.199
the Lord. And so it's just like you know, I've

1507
01:24:01.239 --> 01:24:02.960
been in bands all my life. It's like, well, we

1508
01:24:03.039 --> 01:24:04.680
got to choose our audience. Who do we want to

1509
01:24:04.720 --> 01:24:07.079
play to? And I think that's the kind of music

1510
01:24:07.159 --> 01:24:10.600
that we're going to play. And so as a believer,

1511
01:24:10.960 --> 01:24:13.199
you've got to make those very same kind of choices.

1512
01:24:13.239 --> 01:24:16.199
Who's your audience. Are you playing to the world, are

1513
01:24:16.239 --> 01:24:20.520
you playing to Satan? Are you playing to God himself? Well,

1514
01:24:20.680 --> 01:24:22.800
you know the tune that's going to please that audience.

1515
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He's the director of research at Arizona Christian University's Cultural

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Research Center, author of Raising Spiritual Champions, The One and

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Only Doctor George Barnet. George, thank you so much. You

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Well, good morning, we're back with you, Bill, Martina s

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here and what a great story that we've got to

1587
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talk about with our next guest, Rachel kerch Schneider. And

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she's written a terrific book that is going to bless

1589
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you beyond your imagination her new memoir, The Widow Chose

1590
01:28:34.479 --> 01:28:39.279
Read My Journey with Jesus, John and Als. Rachel. Welcome, Michelle,

1591
01:28:39.279 --> 01:28:40.079
good to have you with us.

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01:28:40.479 --> 01:28:42.479
Oh, thank you. I'm delighted to be here.

1593
01:28:42.560 --> 01:28:48.920
Bill. Well, your book is so touching on so many levels.

1594
01:28:49.600 --> 01:28:51.920
You know, tell tell our audience your story. I guess

1595
01:28:52.239 --> 01:28:54.479
that would be the best way to start here.

1596
01:28:55.439 --> 01:28:58.439
Well, it's you know, all of us face things that

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01:28:58.560 --> 01:29:01.479
are beyond our imagination. In my case, it was getting

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the news of my husband's diagnosis of he meotrophic lateral

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sclerosis otherwise known of als.

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Gerek's disease, which it's.

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Not unusual for it to take a while to be diagnosed.

1602
01:29:15.479 --> 01:29:17.560
In his case it took up to a year. He

1603
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was forty seven when he was diagnosed. He was fifty

1604
01:29:20.520 --> 01:29:23.680
when he passed. They will tell you when they deliver

1605
01:29:23.800 --> 01:29:27.199
this diagnosis that it's two to five years. There are

1606
01:29:27.239 --> 01:29:29.960
about thirty thousand people in the US right now that

1607
01:29:30.119 --> 01:29:34.000
currently have it. Between five and six thousand are diagnosed

1608
01:29:34.039 --> 01:29:38.239
per year. There is still no known cause, no known cure,

1609
01:29:38.840 --> 01:29:43.039
and it is still it's a death sentence. The body

1610
01:29:43.119 --> 01:29:47.039
self paralyzes, the motor neurons die, and yet the whole

1611
01:29:47.119 --> 01:29:50.319
time your mind stays intact, so you know exactly what

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01:29:50.520 --> 01:29:51.000
is going on.

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01:29:51.880 --> 01:29:56.119
And so here you are, both of you, still young,

1614
01:29:57.680 --> 01:30:02.359
and you're dealing with this. And here God says, I'm

1615
01:30:02.399 --> 01:30:05.479
going to take you through the shadow of death right.

1616
01:30:06.119 --> 01:30:10.560
Yes, yes, and this is a brutal disease.

1617
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It is so hard to watch someone, anyone that you love,

1618
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succumb to an illness, but this one especially more so

1619
01:30:18.239 --> 01:30:21.279
because you lose you lose all of your ability to

1620
01:30:21.359 --> 01:30:24.960
speak and communicate. And so I think for us, what

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01:30:25.079 --> 01:30:28.079
I really wanted to focus on was helping John finish well.

1622
01:30:28.800 --> 01:30:31.800
And it was interesting because I sought out a faith

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01:30:31.840 --> 01:30:35.199
based counselor who told me, you know, I was so

1624
01:30:35.359 --> 01:30:38.479
exasperated one day, why isn't my faith making this easier?

1625
01:30:38.720 --> 01:30:41.439
I thought that my faith would make this easier. And

1626
01:30:41.520 --> 01:30:43.720
she looked at me and she said, Rachel, she goes,

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01:30:43.840 --> 01:30:47.640
Jesus was human. She goes, he had twelve guys helping him,

1628
01:30:48.039 --> 01:30:48.479
and you're not.

1629
01:30:48.640 --> 01:30:51.279
Jesus, So maybe he needs some help.

1630
01:30:51.800 --> 01:30:54.359
And I thought about that and thought, you know what,

1631
01:30:54.760 --> 01:30:57.720
it's okay to admit this is tough and I do

1632
01:30:57.920 --> 01:31:00.279
need help, and I need to be willing any to

1633
01:31:00.359 --> 01:31:02.720
receive whatever help people can give me.

1634
01:31:04.079 --> 01:31:06.079
So now you're at that point and you start to

1635
01:31:06.119 --> 01:31:09.039
become honest with God, it's okay for you to be

1636
01:31:09.119 --> 01:31:12.039
honest with God. What did that do for your faith?

1637
01:31:13.560 --> 01:31:15.760
Well? It really, it really fortified it.

1638
01:31:15.920 --> 01:31:19.079
I really really began to see Jesus as a real

1639
01:31:19.199 --> 01:31:22.159
life person just going through this journey behind me. And

1640
01:31:22.279 --> 01:31:25.079
what I realized too, Bill, it's okay to question God,

1641
01:31:25.199 --> 01:31:29.840
it's okay to be mad, it's okay to wonder why

1642
01:31:30.000 --> 01:31:33.520
we go through these things. And our faith isn't necessarily

1643
01:31:33.640 --> 01:31:36.520
going to make it easier, but it will give us

1644
01:31:36.560 --> 01:31:39.640
some fortification as we go through the suffering. And our

1645
01:31:39.720 --> 01:31:43.279
sufferings never wasted. And I think that's important for us

1646
01:31:43.359 --> 01:31:45.600
to realize too. Who are we to think we won't

1647
01:31:45.640 --> 01:31:48.439
get through this life without some kind of pain and suffering,

1648
01:31:48.840 --> 01:31:50.800
especially when we look at what our Savior did for

1649
01:31:50.960 --> 01:31:51.760
us on the cross.

1650
01:31:52.199 --> 01:31:54.920
You know, I referenced Psalm twenty three at the very beginning,

1651
01:31:55.359 --> 01:31:58.920
you know, the shadow of death that going through that

1652
01:31:59.479 --> 01:32:02.880
is that because I got to imagine, there's so many

1653
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things that come into question. And one of the biggest

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things that I hear time and again from people who

1655
01:32:10.039 --> 01:32:13.199
go through this is they deal with evil, their fear

1656
01:32:13.239 --> 01:32:16.479
of evil. And in Psalm twenty three, it got says,

1657
01:32:16.520 --> 01:32:20.600
I'm going to take you through that and that evil

1658
01:32:20.720 --> 01:32:25.800
will not you know, will not conquer you in essence, right, correct?

1659
01:32:25.800 --> 01:32:29.439
And so you're going through this situation. It's like others

1660
01:32:29.520 --> 01:32:31.640
have said, it's not that you get over it, you

1661
01:32:31.720 --> 01:32:34.359
get through it right exactly exactly.

1662
01:32:34.479 --> 01:32:36.279
And what I realized, too, Bill, is that.

1663
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You know, we I had two young boys, and so

1664
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life had to we had to keep living while John

1665
01:32:44.560 --> 01:32:46.680
was dying. And I think that's one of the hardest

1666
01:32:46.760 --> 01:32:50.720
things too, is that you you know that this, the

1667
01:32:50.800 --> 01:32:52.880
way that you're living right now, will not last forever.

1668
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The life that you have will not last forever.

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And I think sometimes we're all in such a hurry

1670
01:32:57.239 --> 01:32:59.279
to get to the next stage of our life that

1671
01:32:59.359 --> 01:33:02.439
we sometimes overlook exactly where we are and appreciate what

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we have.

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01:33:03.359 --> 01:33:03.920
In the moment.

1674
01:33:03.960 --> 01:33:05.920
And I think that was one of the biggest lessons

1675
01:33:05.960 --> 01:33:09.279
I learned was to really not take any minute of

1676
01:33:09.399 --> 01:33:10.560
any day for granted.

1677
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What would you say to other women or you know,

1678
01:33:15.319 --> 01:33:20.239
spouses going through similar situations, because you know, in reading

1679
01:33:20.279 --> 01:33:24.279
your story, yes there's peaks and valleys, but I think

1680
01:33:24.359 --> 01:33:27.239
some of the peaks, as people will read this, would

1681
01:33:27.279 --> 01:33:30.479
be surprised that you made peaks out of what other

1682
01:33:30.520 --> 01:33:31.720
people would see as valleys.

1683
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Yes, because it's all in the way that we it's

1684
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all in the way that we look at things. And

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what I would say is that, a You're not alone,

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01:33:42.319 --> 01:33:44.960
and there are others who are who have been and

1687
01:33:45.119 --> 01:33:46.600
are going through this same thing.

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It's so important to get support.

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And now with social media, you can open up your

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laptop and find a group online, which I couldn't do

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01:33:56.560 --> 01:33:59.960
fourteen years ago. I didn't see another widow that was

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01:34:00.119 --> 01:34:02.520
forty nine years old. I didn't know what that looked like.

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But there is so much support. Reach out, find that tribe,

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and lean in on your community. There are people in

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your church, there are people in your neighborhood, and there

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are also so many more resource groups, advocacy groups, whatever

1697
01:34:17.680 --> 01:34:18.720
is that you're going through.

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And I got to imagine in this process, Rachel, that

1699
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you learned that not to trust everyone, You had to

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01:34:27.359 --> 01:34:30.479
be discerning as to who you brought into that inner

1701
01:34:30.560 --> 01:34:35.720
circle of pain and questioning and doubts that you you

1702
01:34:35.800 --> 01:34:38.119
know that you brought into that inner circle of your

1703
01:34:38.239 --> 01:34:40.279
very being right absolutely.

1704
01:34:40.520 --> 01:34:43.880
And we waited even one year before we told our boys,

1705
01:34:43.920 --> 01:34:46.760
who were very young at the time, because we knew

1706
01:34:46.960 --> 01:34:50.000
that once we told them, the rest of the world

1707
01:34:50.039 --> 01:34:52.279
would find out very quickly. We shared the news with

1708
01:34:52.359 --> 01:34:56.279
our family, you know, right away, but we needed some

1709
01:34:56.479 --> 01:35:00.199
time to fortify ourselves for the for the suna me

1710
01:35:00.359 --> 01:35:03.640
of emotion that was going to follow once our boys

1711
01:35:03.720 --> 01:35:05.800
found out about it, and they're the rest of the

1712
01:35:06.319 --> 01:35:07.039
rest of the world.

1713
01:35:07.199 --> 01:35:10.520
So yeah, because here you go, you get the diagnosis,

1714
01:35:11.000 --> 01:35:13.920
and as you said, it progresses and the boys are

1715
01:35:13.960 --> 01:35:18.000
probably thinking Dad looks fine, exactly right.

1716
01:35:18.560 --> 01:35:21.239
Yes, yes, And for a year he did. Bill for

1717
01:35:21.399 --> 01:35:24.680
a year he did, and then guess what he didn't.

1718
01:35:24.760 --> 01:35:25.960
He was he was falling.

1719
01:35:26.079 --> 01:35:30.439
He needed a cane, and they were questioning what's wrong

1720
01:35:30.520 --> 01:35:33.279
with Dad? And so we finally had to tell them,

1721
01:35:33.359 --> 01:35:36.880
and you know, my youngest his questions were, is you know,

1722
01:35:37.079 --> 01:35:38.359
is Dad going to be in a wheelchair?

1723
01:35:38.920 --> 01:35:39.079
Yes?

1724
01:35:39.680 --> 01:35:42.119
Is Dad going to get out of the wheelchair? Probably not?

1725
01:35:42.560 --> 01:35:44.520
And then the hardest one of all, is Dad going

1726
01:35:44.600 --> 01:35:47.520
to get better? And you know that's the one where

1727
01:35:47.600 --> 01:35:52.079
you say, probably not. But we serve a God who

1728
01:35:52.159 --> 01:35:54.720
can cure any one of anything at any time. So

1729
01:35:55.199 --> 01:35:58.079
we are going to pray every night that God will

1730
01:35:58.119 --> 01:36:00.640
heal Daddy, and in the meantime, we're just going to

1731
01:36:00.720 --> 01:36:02.319
take care of him as best we can.

1732
01:36:03.000 --> 01:36:07.079
Exactly the title of the book, the widow chose Red.

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Tell us the.

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01:36:09.960 --> 01:36:15.720
Backstory, Well, you know, it does have it's a heavy topic,

1735
01:36:15.800 --> 01:36:18.079
but there are some light moments in it. It kind

1736
01:36:18.119 --> 01:36:20.319
of talks about how I met John in our life

1737
01:36:20.399 --> 01:36:22.960
and how I followed him all around the country. He

1738
01:36:23.119 --> 01:36:25.840
was climbing the corporate ladder. I was the trailing spouse.

1739
01:36:25.920 --> 01:36:29.000
We relocated seven times in fifteen years. There are a

1740
01:36:29.119 --> 01:36:33.000
lot of great moments in there, and lots of fun too,

1741
01:36:33.359 --> 01:36:36.239
and so and I think it's just important to Bill.

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01:36:36.319 --> 01:36:38.319
I want to remind all of us that we have

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01:36:38.479 --> 01:36:42.079
this supernatural superpower inside of us known as the Holy Spirit.

1744
01:36:42.920 --> 01:36:45.920
Life becomes so hard that we don't even know how

1745
01:36:45.960 --> 01:36:47.159
we're going to take another breath.

1746
01:36:47.640 --> 01:36:49.600
We can't think straight that we have.

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01:36:49.720 --> 01:36:53.920
The ability because God gifted us with that that we

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01:36:54.039 --> 01:36:55.520
can call on him and he will.

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01:36:55.800 --> 01:36:57.640
He will get us through. He does hear us.

1750
01:36:58.279 --> 01:37:00.439
Yeah, when windows are supposed to be wearing black. You

1751
01:37:00.640 --> 01:37:03.720
chose Red, and you mentioned the Holy Spirit and read

1752
01:37:03.760 --> 01:37:07.520
in the Holy Spirit goes along in my life as well.

1753
01:37:07.760 --> 01:37:10.119
I mean, our very breath comes from the Spirit of God,

1754
01:37:10.239 --> 01:37:10.600
does it not?

1755
01:37:11.159 --> 01:37:12.880
Yes, it does, Yes, it does.

1756
01:37:13.039 --> 01:37:18.439
And John's service was a celebration of life and so therefore,

1757
01:37:18.920 --> 01:37:21.720
and we had probably we had so many kids there

1758
01:37:21.800 --> 01:37:23.760
because of the ages of the boys. I wanted it

1759
01:37:23.920 --> 01:37:29.159
to feel more like a celebration than a somber funeral

1760
01:37:29.359 --> 01:37:29.920
kind of thing.

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01:37:31.000 --> 01:37:34.520
Well, the last thirty seconds here, Rachel, what do you

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01:37:34.600 --> 01:37:36.479
want people to take away from your book?

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01:37:37.880 --> 01:37:39.840
You know, I want them to know that, even when

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01:37:39.840 --> 01:37:42.399
they're happily ever after doesn't turn out the way they

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01:37:42.479 --> 01:37:44.840
want it, there is still hopefully ever after.

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Well.

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01:37:46.760 --> 01:37:51.000
Since her husband died in twenty eleven, Rachel's faith continues

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01:37:51.039 --> 01:37:54.560
to be challenged by widowhood, single parenting, a son with

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01:37:54.640 --> 01:37:59.520
an addiction, relocation, relationships, and you husband after ten years

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01:38:00.039 --> 01:38:03.359
of long distance dating. We used to say gu back

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01:38:03.399 --> 01:38:09.319
in my days, but you overcame the gu influence and dynamic. Well, congratulations,

1772
01:38:09.479 --> 01:38:13.600
and here as a bonus, you're a mom to four girls. Huh,

1773
01:38:13.680 --> 01:38:14.680
how's that for a bonus?

1774
01:38:16.079 --> 01:38:17.880
I gotta tell you, Bill that we could have a

1775
01:38:17.920 --> 01:38:20.680
whole nother discussion about that, because being a boy mom,

1776
01:38:21.039 --> 01:38:22.520
I didn't know a thing about girls.

1777
01:38:23.640 --> 01:38:27.800
Even though you are one. I know, go figure, I

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01:38:27.920 --> 01:38:30.159
know it's got's sense of humor and just to keep

1779
01:38:30.199 --> 01:38:34.600
her humble right exactly so you know you go. God,

1780
01:38:34.640 --> 01:38:36.119
you told me to pick up my cross, but you

1781
01:38:36.159 --> 01:38:38.520
didn't say there were four of them. Oh my goodness,

1782
01:38:38.560 --> 01:38:40.600
I'm just teasing. Don't let the girls hear this.

1783
01:38:41.439 --> 01:38:42.880
No, No, it's okay.

1784
01:38:43.000 --> 01:38:43.159
You know.

1785
01:38:43.279 --> 01:38:45.600
I remember looking at Kevin and saying, I love you,

1786
01:38:45.760 --> 01:38:50.520
but I'm not sure about these girls. Lots of counseling there, Bill,

1787
01:38:50.640 --> 01:38:52.600
but it's all working out well.

1788
01:38:52.840 --> 01:38:55.760
Lots of counseling, lots of prayer because we always hang on.

1789
01:38:55.840 --> 01:38:58.119
I know sometimes people say, Bill, how do you do it?

1790
01:38:58.159 --> 01:39:00.600
And I just said, I'm hanging on to Jesus garment

1791
01:39:00.680 --> 01:39:01.319
all the way through.

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01:39:01.439 --> 01:39:05.880
That's all I can do, right, absolutely, absolutely, and I'm.

1793
01:39:05.800 --> 01:39:06.439
Right with you.

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Well, I'm with you, so God bless you. Rachel Kerrschneider.

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And the Book of Course is now available right all

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Als Rachel Kerschneider has been with us. Rachel, thank you

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so much, Take care, God bless.

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September the twelfth. Doctor Ambrosio, welcome the show. Good to

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have you with us.

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It is a pleasure to be with you. Bill, Thank

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you so much for inviting me well, this.

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Story is it is so powerful. How did you come

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you know, how did it get in your orbit?

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Well, let me just say that I'm a writer, but

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I'm not a film writer. My son is the one

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who wrote this film and directed the film. I'm the

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executive director, which means I've been in the background, and

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I'm a historian, so I've had impact on the script.

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I've had impact on getting this thing out.

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But I'll just tell you that my son went through

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a profound time of darkness in which he lost his

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faith after being a seminarian, after being a youth minister,

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and he really felt like Maximill and Colby somehow entered

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into his cell of his isolation and his darkness and

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pulled him out.

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And this was at this was a mental cell as

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opposed to the cell that Colby.

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That's right, that's right.

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The young man had what we now kind of understand

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a little bit, but just a profound attack on his

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health and his ability to function, and it really ruined

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the potential engagement. It ruined so many things, and it

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felt like God had abandoned him. And I think that's

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how he realized that Maximum and Kloby didn't just give

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his life to save one man from that despair, that cell,

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that bunker of starvation. But he went into that cell

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to accompany those men and pull them out of darkness

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and despair into hope, to die with dignity. And that's

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the story is really about triumph, and it's about it's

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just an amazing, amazing reflection on the power of holiness

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and also the nobility of the human spirit that can

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that can thrive and be heroic in the midst of

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this horror.

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Well, you know what I could see from Saint Colby

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is that he was a carrier of Jesus light. And

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whether he realized it or not, but certainly in that

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dark situation in Auschwitz, I mean, here was I mean,

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he didn't have to volunteer to go into that cell

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with those nine other men, but he had to respond

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to a call that God had placed on him. And

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as you said so appropriately, he was walking into darkness,

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but he was going to be that penetrating light and

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encouragement to those nine men.

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Right.

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Absolutely, just something about maximum and Colby from the time

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he was a kid, he wanted to be in the

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military and that was his goal. His father and his

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brother both were cut committed to fight for Poland against

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the Russians in those days before the German invasion. So anyway,

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Colby carried that into is religious life, and he always

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talked in terms of a militia, of founding a militia

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of the Imaco Lada to fight for God's glory.

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And in the cell, what you.

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Find there is their spiritual resistance. He whips these guys

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into a brigade, right, who spiritually resist and drive the

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Nazis crazy and rouse the people in the camp. I

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think that that is the untold part of the story

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that is very clear in the primary sources that we

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used to bring this story to the world.

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Yeah. Here, you think the Germans and the leadership and

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everything thought well, by incarcerating these men, it would restrict

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their story. But like anything, when you resist the power

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of the truth, it comes out. It's like an eclipse

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of the sun, isn't it.

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Yeah that's right, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Someone once said they

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tripped this to Saint Augustine. The truth is like a lion,

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you know, you can't really stop it. It just it's

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gonna roar. And that's what happens from this cell.

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The truth roars out of this.

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Little window that is the that is the connection between

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that cell and the rest of the camp. And you

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just see the impact that it has on people, which

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many survived. We actually have at the very end on

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you know, as it rolled the credits, you see a

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few comments of survivors of Alschrusz who said, what Colby

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and these men did for them.

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Yeah, that's quite quite the testimony. And uh, and here

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Colby had the sense of destiny that he was to

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be used of God as a warrior.

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As you know.

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Of course, his writing skills were were very evident right

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there in Poland. But God had you know, a greater call,

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you know, for him. I think that even more than

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he can imagine. You know, we all we often talk

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about how God loves us and his plans for us

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are more than we can imagine. But you really don't

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know until you get to the end of yourself and

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start dealing with the realm of the imagination and God

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takes you to that next step that you thought you'd

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never go.

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Right, that's absolutely right. You know, he did have huge

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impact in Poland. I mean there were eight hundred brothers

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that he attracted to his monastery, which really was a

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city a small city was called City of the Immaculate,

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and they're printing out papers, newspapers, magazines. They started at

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first Catholic radio station there. I mean, so he had

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all this impact and the nazisus came in and destroyed

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it all. And his greatest impact was none of that,

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because none of us have probably read a whole lot

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of what came out in those newspapers, but his final

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act of self surrender and his final Now the world

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will learn about what he did in those fourteen last

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days of his life. And this is the greatest contribution

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that Maximill and Kolby makes to the world, these last

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fourteen days.

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Amazing, huh that it would come down to, as you say,

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the fourteen days of his life that lives into infamy.

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Absolutely absolutely. I would just say this bill. The world

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premiere happened in Warsaw, and it's incredible the impact that

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that world premiere had. And the team said, we don't

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want to just do this big, glitzy premiere in Warsaw.

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We want to go to maximum Colby's monastery and show

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it to the brothers, and then we want to go

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to his hometown and show it to his relatives. So

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there were three beautiful days in Poland and the brothers

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at the City of the Immaculate, which still exists and

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has a shrine to Colby, the brothers there said, wow,

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this we will never tell the story of Colby the

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same way after seeing this film. We'd never really talked

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about those last four days, and now we know that

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we need to talk about them. So I think that's

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the impact of this story. Many people have heard a

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little bit about Colby, but this will really give you

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a living It's a living icon of who he was.

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I think.

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I think the actor who plays him did an amazing job.

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The scripts an amazing job, and so his image is

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now emblazon our imagination in a new way.

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So here, your son, in a crisis of his own,

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comes across this story and somehow it just speaks to

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his heart right that he says, wait a minute, this

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is this could be me and.

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Absolutely absolutely, you know, I just tell you, Bill. Part

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of his suffering was he could only sleep for half

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an hour to two hours a night for a long time,

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which really makes you delirious, you know. And it was

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in the midst of that that he and there were

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no answers, like no doctors could figure it out. No

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01:51:26.960 --> 01:51:30.800
meds were working, you know. And anyway, he started to

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discover the story and get the insight of Colby's ministry

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to these guys in the cell and start reading the sources.

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And he started writing the dialogue when he couldn't sleep

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in the middle of the night. So it came out

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of suffering.

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I think only out of suffering can someone understand other

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people who have suffered deeply.

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So I think that's part of the power of the

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writing of this movie.

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Well, and as your son said, you know, he saw

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himself as a good Catholic. He was faithful, and all

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of a sudden his life is turned on its head.

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And you know, now we're back to that refrain from

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01:52:05.279 --> 01:52:09.960
the Old Testament. What Satan made meant for bad, God

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turns to good right.

2045
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Absolutely, And I think one of the things about this movie.

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We go through times like this sometimes, but we also

2047
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know many people who go through times like this of

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despair where nothing seems to be working, where it seems

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that God has abandoned them.

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How do we help them? I think this movie gives

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us insight.

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One priest told me, I can't wait to see this

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movie because I want to be better at giving hope

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to people.

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And I think that's what we'll walk out with, you know.

2056
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When you're in that kind of situation that you can

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only imagine as I'm watching the scenes, and here these

2058
01:52:43.239 --> 01:52:49.319
ten men are really they're given a death sentence, no water,

2059
01:52:49.680 --> 01:52:55.159
no food. They're going to starve because another prisoner escaped, right.

2060
01:52:56.199 --> 01:52:59.279
Right, Yeah, And part of the story that many don't

2061
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know is that the price are actually did not escape.

2062
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The prisoner that was missing actually died by falling into

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a latrine, and so that he's discovered later on. And

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that's that's that's reflected in the story and in the dialogue,

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01:53:14.159 --> 01:53:19.279
the dialogue between the subcommandant. They basically the COO of

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01:53:19.359 --> 01:53:20.159
the camp, not.

2067
01:53:20.279 --> 01:53:23.359
The chief guy. His name is Carl Fritch.

2068
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He's a real historical figure. This gives us an image

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into the mind and into the life of a Nazi monster,

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01:53:31.000 --> 01:53:33.439
and we see his humanity in this. But we all

2071
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this is the guy who, right after Colby dies, within

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01:53:36.680 --> 01:53:38.720
two weeks, he comes up with the bright idea of

2073
01:53:38.840 --> 01:53:42.279
using poison gas to kill more people, and the first

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01:53:42.359 --> 01:53:44.640
people are gassed by him. So this is this is

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01:53:44.880 --> 01:53:46.520
if you want to look at one of the architects

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01:53:46.600 --> 01:53:49.840
of the Holocaust. It's this man and you see Colby

2077
01:53:49.920 --> 01:53:53.560
facing off against him in a magnificent way. I think

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the dialogue is just phenomenal that goes on.

2079
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Well, this movie, I know is and have such a

2080
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great impact. And thank you to you and your son

2081
01:54:02.760 --> 01:54:07.239
and everybody involved in bringing this movie to the United States. Now,

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01:54:07.319 --> 01:54:10.560
this is going to premiere here in the United States

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01:54:10.800 --> 01:54:14.279
on Friday, September the twelfth. Now, is this on a

2084
01:54:15.279 --> 01:54:19.119
through a special uh what would you call what'd you

2085
01:54:19.199 --> 01:54:24.199
call it? The screening? Yeah, my my my mind escapes me,

2086
01:54:24.319 --> 01:54:28.159
so forgive me. But the what what's the what's the

2087
01:54:28.239 --> 01:54:30.039
type of screen Fathom? A Fathom event?

2088
01:54:30.399 --> 01:54:31.760
Yeah, it is not a Fathom event.

2089
01:54:33.079 --> 01:54:34.800
It's a it's kind of an end run around the

2090
01:54:34.840 --> 01:54:38.720
Hollywood studios and around the the theater chains, which is

2091
01:54:38.960 --> 01:54:41.399
who they are, the ones who own Fathom. Often Fathom

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01:54:41.479 --> 01:54:45.239
restricts how long you can run this. Here's the thing

2093
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I want to encourage everyone to do. If you're interested

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01:54:47.600 --> 01:54:51.000
in this movie, go to colbymovie dot com and Colby

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01:54:51.119 --> 01:54:54.880
is k O l B E colbymovie dot com And

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01:54:55.119 --> 01:54:58.479
there's actually tickets that you can you can reserve around

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01:54:58.560 --> 01:55:00.760
the country and various markets around the country. You can

2098
01:55:00.840 --> 01:55:03.520
do that until the end of this week, but this

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will be playing in many mainstream theaters around the country,

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particularly I think in a lot of AMC's, So I

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would encourage everyone get your tickets if you can this week,

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01:55:13.079 --> 01:55:15.199
and if you can't do that and prereserve it, look

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01:55:15.439 --> 01:55:17.239
for that weekend September twelfth.

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Look at the theaters around your area, and if there

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is a theater, make sure you get there.

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It's just an amazing thing to experience in the theater, honestly.

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Now, this is also kind of a crowdfundme pay it

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forward type of model as well.

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Right, absolutely, some people are familiar with Angel Studios. The

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Chosen originally started with them. They kind of pioneered an

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01:55:39.000 --> 01:55:41.640
idea pay it forward. We came up with a new

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platform really just designed for this movie that we hope

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will be an opportunity for other Catholic films and other

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01:55:48.520 --> 01:55:52.000
faith based films to get out there. So it's actually

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01:55:52.079 --> 01:55:55.960
a new, brand new idea of buying screenings rather than

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with somebody paying a lot of money setting up a

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01:55:58.880 --> 01:56:02.039
way for everybody to pick to bias screening into town

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or a theater.

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And the information is there at the website and how

2120
01:56:06.760 --> 01:56:09.159
they can participate. Right, So, you've got tickets, you've got

2121
01:56:10.279 --> 01:56:13.800
special reserved screenings that you could do for your church

2122
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or your organization.

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Right, absolutely, absolutely so go to colbymovie dot com.

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You can also see the trailer.

2125
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You can see so many things about about the directors

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01:56:23.119 --> 01:56:25.520
and actors experience as a press kit there with lots

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of interviews, great reviews. I'll just tell you the reviews

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have been absolutely stunning in the unanimity of acclaim from

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the movie.

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So it's it's wonderful, well, as C. S.

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