Sept. 3, 2025

The Bill Martinez Show 09 03 25

The Bill Martinez Show 09 03 25
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The Bill Martinez Show 09 03 25
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Are you ready?

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Yeah, Okay, let's do it.

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Ill Martinez Live a program about current events, our culture,

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our values, our politics, and our future.

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And now Bill Martinez.

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Well, good morning. Six minutes after the top of the

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our Bill Martinez here with James Irwin from at R. James,

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good morning, How are you.

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I'm doing well, Bill, How are you?

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Hey? I'm doing terrific. Thanks for joining us. Lots to

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catch up on. Let's start off with Ai. You know,

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the race is on. Donald Trump has made it real

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clear he's cast a vision for this country, says that

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we will definitely lead the race. I think he's cautioning

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and saying, look at the Chinese broke out a little

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bit faster than us, but we have many more resources,

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and I think that we're going to leave them in

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the rear view mirror as long as we stay focused

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and keep moving forward. What do you say?

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I think Donald Trump has articulated a great America first

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vision for AI development, and we are still ahead of China,

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but just barely. There is no end to the amount

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of money they're willing to spend. They're willing to leverage

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their entire economy to try and catch up with us,

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and so we need to make sure our developers have

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the resources which are here. We just have to let

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them use them. And we need to make sure that

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they have permission or rather permission less innovation where they

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can really flourish and build stuff. And look, we're building

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more ships in America. We're starting to bring those manufacturers here.

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And plus better, better ships James two. That's the other thing.

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I mean when you look at the shipbuilding in China.

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Yes they've built, you know, they've upped their ship building,

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but the quality wise can't compare to America.

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Well, not to get into the specifics of historic Chinese

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war doctrines, but every time they've ever fought a war,

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their strategy has been human wave attacks. Now, Sun Zoo

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did write a great, great theory of how you you

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win a war by not even fighting a battle, But

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in practice, their advantage is their manpower, and they're just

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applying that to the sea. Right Like we have eleven

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aircraft carriers, I think they have two. They have more

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ships on paper, and they're just gonna throw these vessels

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into a battle when they try and and take Taiwan

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if they do.

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But they won't do that.

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If we are we remain far ahead of them in

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technology and in economic growth, and their economic growth is slowing.

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Ours is starting to accelerate with the Big Beautiful Bill,

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the permanent expensing, with tax cuts, with deregulation and energy policy.

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I mean that this is what AI development really needs,

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is they're so hungry for energy. We're finally starting to

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see a breakthrough on nuclear where the left has been

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protesting this since the Vietnam War, since the Cold War.

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You know that over of those those hippies still around,

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some of them California protest.

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They're they're actually out in DC right now yelling at

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the Vice President.

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They really at the National Guard, who I know, I've

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seen them around, you know, but the train stations and such.

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But I actually have some I want to talk to

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them someday because I've got some good ideas about where

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they might deploy, such as where I used to live

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up in North Capitol Street, where I think the boys

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are still out there, still on drugs. I think they

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can make a difference some places they used to live

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around here.

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Well, well, there's no doubt there's been a positive effect

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in a short period of time.

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You know.

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It's interesting when you put a focus on something whether

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it's the border, or job creation and development, or regulation.

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You know how quick things can change, And right now

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it seems that everything is happening in Trump.

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Time, absolutely, and we'll hopefully be building our next generation

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AI systems in Trump time as well. One of the

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dangers here that I'm working on and we're kind of

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worried about, is what the states will get up to

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because AI technology is developed in one state, but it

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doesn't ever stay there. It really is interstate commerce, and

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so there had been proposals that are ted. Cruz had

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led this fight for the Big Beautiful Bill to include

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an AI moratorium, basically to take a pause and tell states, listen,

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this is a federal jurisdiction. We're going to see how

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this goes, and we're going to see what we need

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to do, what harms we need to work.

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To mitigate in the future.

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Most stuff that AI can be used for that's bad

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is already illegal.

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So how do we enforce that.

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We need to take a little bit more of a

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wheat and sea approach so we're not getting in the

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way of innovation.

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I'll give you a great example.

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In Colorado, they led with this really woke left wing

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AI bill where basically they would blame coders and developers

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for crimes that other people commit with their their software,

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with their AI systems. This is like trying to take

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the gun manufacturers to court because of school shootings, or

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suit the old companies because the weather's bad. I mean,

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this is exactly the same logic. And it's so bad

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that Jared Poulis, the Democrat governor of Colorado, not only

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did he he signed the bill, and he included a

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signing statement, as governors often do, where he carefully explained

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everything that was wrong with it. It's one of the

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most remarkable things I've ever seen. But he's still signed

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it and starting today he called a special session to

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repeal it. So I don't know why he thought, why

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he signed this in their place exactly today.

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Yeah, well, you know, I think it's quite interesting with

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progressives how they kind of pick and choose their battles.

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You know, we have a situation now where I'm in

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Florida and we had an immigrant from he was illegal

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from India on an asylum claim seven years I mean,

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way beyond time to adjudicate. I mean, he was an

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asylum claim. Worried about his uh, you know, fearing for

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his life. He's from India, for goodness sakes, Come on,

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what's the threat level in India? I mean the threat

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level is higher in d C by uh by four

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or five times compared to India. But anyway, nonetheless, he's uh,

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he's in. He gets a California driver's license because gavinor

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Newsom is so liberal out there, he just hey, you know,

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he thinks he's Oprah Winfrey. You know, you get a

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driver's license, you get everybody gets a driver's license, you know.

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And so here's this guy, he can't even read the language,

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but he not only gets a California driver's license, then

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he ends up getting a commercial driver's license. He was

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even his I guess his application. Those that were in

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I guess an advisory capacity said hey, the guy doesn't

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know the language, he's a risk, but they went ahead

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and certified him anyway for a commercial driver's license. So

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then he comes here to Florida kills three people. And

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so to me, the liability should go all the way

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back to California and these other states, I think Washington

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also somehow you know, Partook and all this stuff, and

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they should all be held liable because what happens in California.

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What we're finding out doesn't stay in California, does it.

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I don't think there's any secret that California is a

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magnet for legal immigrants. It's a magnet for homeless people.

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A third of the homeless population in America today is

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in California because that's where you're allowed to live in

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the street, that's where you're allowed to openly shoot up

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in parks in front of children. And it's a magnet

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for illegal immigrants because that's where you get you get

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welfare regardless of whether you're allowed to be here. They

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want to overload their Medicaid roles, which is part of

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what the Big Beautiful Bill is going to do is

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trying to take these people, these specific people that California

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has added to its state program. It's federally funded off

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of the roles, so it's preserved for Americans who are

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actually disabled and can't work. So when Democrats go around

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scare mongering about oh, the poor or losing Medicaid the

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first question in every one's mind, it's kind of frustrating.

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I wish some of our Republican congressmen were better at

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making this argument. But whenever you're asked that your first

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thought should be your first response should be, oh, is

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he an illegal immigrant? If anyone claims my son's going

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to lose coverage, oh is he in the country illegally?

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Because if not, you're going to be fine. That's what

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this is about, and it's about not making California a

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magnet for these people, so they end up in other states,

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like in Florida. It's funny you mentioned India actually, because

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believe or not, I was there about a month ago.

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Fionce's family is from from the south of India, so

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we went to visit for a couple of weeks. And

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I can assure you there's no there's no present, clear

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and present danger to anyone's life there. I mean, the

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crime rate is actually very low.

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And to the.

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Extent there is crime, it's scams, it's fraud.

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Now.

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They don't even pick your pocket there. They just try

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and get you to buy junk. It's not even like Europe,

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but it's certainly, you know, nothing like say Latin America

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or some of these African countries where you do have

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like total you know, civil wars. In me out there

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is a refugee crisis. I can't I can't figure how

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anybody would would call themselves a refugee coming from a

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place like India. As chaotic as it is, it is

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still a safe society.

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Right well exactly. And and he's been on this asylum

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ticket for over seven years, and so nobody has reviewed

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his case in all this time period. But this is

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the problem again. The system is overwhelmed. The government is

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too big, or maybe not big enough in light of

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all the people that they allowed across the border. We've

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got to go to quick break. We've got more from

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James Irwin after this stay with us.

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Welcome back nineteen minutes after the top of the our

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ATRS Federal Affairs Manager James Irwin continues with us, James

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going back to AI, and as quickly as this is moving,

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the other thing that we must mention is the fact

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that what Donald Trump is presenting, not only to America

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but to the world is so enticing that you've got

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billions of dollars coming into the country in the name

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of investment into AI. Right, So, I mean, this is

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going to be a target rich market available for those innovators.

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Absolutely, it's a huge investment opportunity in microchips, it's a

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huge investment in data centers, and it's a huge investment

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in the energy needed to power the data centers. So

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we're talking about building. Every major tech company that has

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the capital to do this is going to try and

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build data centers to hold all of the the information

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that we have, Like our email files are so everything

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on social media, it's all stored on a server somewhere.

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And each of these costs, I mean each of them.

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They're acres wide, they're enormous, enormous buildings, and they cost

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eighteen to twenty billion dollars a piece to build. That's

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billion with a B to create one data center. So

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and they do an enormous amount of work. So that's

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great investment in local jobs. Manufacturing. We need engineers to

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keep it running and they all need lots and lots

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of energy to keep going. And so that is why

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you're finally seeing this actual market case for nuclear power,

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because nuclear energy could have lowered our electricity costs.

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A long long time agome.

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Yeah, exactly, they could have taken dollars off your bill.

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But because of the you know, hangover from the Cold War,

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these anti nuclear activists have been standing in the way

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for years. They call themselves green environmentalists, despite the fact

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the real carbon emissions from nuclear energy. You know, yes,

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you know, there could be catastrophes, but there have been

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three or four total in all of the history of

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nuclear energy. And I know it's scary because it makes

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the headline, but in general, it's actually one of the safest,

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cleanest forms of energy. And we're finally at a point

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where we have no choice. These data centers need energy.

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So Microsoft is bringing a nuclear reactor back online that

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was shut down in Pennsylvania. We're going to see one

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i think in the middle of Iowa as well as

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Meta is building a new data center and one of

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the reasons why we need to have an AI moratorium

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and stop these states from regulating and getting in the

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way is I'm mentioning all these big tech companies because

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they're the ones who have the capital to build these things.

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Smaller tech companies competitors that put pressure on them stuff

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like a perplexity AI. I think about open AI. I

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think about a lot of these new entries to the

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market that are going to put downward pressure on price,

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that are going to create the kind of competition that

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really drives excellence. Ones who are hurt by excessive regulation

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by states. At the end of the day, if California

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does something terrible, the tech companies from Silicon Valley are

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going to figure out a way to deal with it.

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They don't want it, but like they will live with

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it at some point and they can afford to do it.

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This is always what happens to cur regulation.

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It's thought to be targeted at the big guys, but

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it always hurts the little guys who were coming to

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put competitive pressure on them and deliver benefits to consumers

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through through lower prices through But.

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Those little guys are moving out to other states that

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are more business friendly, and actually you know friendlier to

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your point, I agree. What what do you think in

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terms of I mean, one of the I guess the

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downside propositions of AI is it's going to replace jobs.

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I don't necessarily see it that way. Maybe I'm myopic.

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Maybe you can help me understand here, because, like you know,

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the industrial revolution that occurred in our country, people thought,

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oh wow, I mean, you know, we it was going

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to replace jobs. And what it do? It created a

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and redefined a whole new job for us, didn't.

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It absolutely did? And I think that's what we're going

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to see again. Every single time there's spent a major

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labor saving technological breakthrough, you ended up creating more jobs

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than were erased by the single task that is now

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done by a machine. And not only that the tasks

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become easier and better, that we become healthier as a result.

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You know, I don't really think we should go back

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to a world where we had to have children sticking

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their small hands into industrial machinery because they're the only

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ones who could fit, or.

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Go back to the underwood Hunt and Peck typewriter, you know, exactly,

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throw the word processing out the side, Like how many

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jobs did we lose during that transition, but you know,

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to your point, it allowed the individual worker to produce

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at a higher level.

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Yeah, exactly. My favorite example is the knocker upper.

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There used to be a job every industrial town in

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the Midwest and in New England where I'm from. All

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over the country, they used to have somebody whose job

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it was to wake up early in the morning. I

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guess they owned a rooster and they would go around

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and they would knock on everyone's windows with a big

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stick because nobody had an alarm clock. Yet the invention

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of the alarm clock took away this job. I don't

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think we go back to a world without alarm clocks

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or timers on our phone to wake us up in

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the morning, just to preserve the knocker uppers.

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There's a so we losed, we lost one knocker upper,

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but then we created this industry of alarm clock industry, right,

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that created how many more new jobs?

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Right exactly? Yeah, and that that process keeps going.

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Now.

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I don't want to be you know, I don't want

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to ignore that there are there is a transition period.

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I mean, this does happen, right, There will be people

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who do need to be reskilled. There will be localized

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problems with this, and I don't want to diminish that.

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But that's one of the.

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Reasons we need robust GDP growth, which the Big Beautiful

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Bill will help with, which AI innovation will help with,

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because that generates the wealth that we then have we

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can then use to mitigate some of the problems that

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happen locally and find ways to create new jobs programs

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that or training programs, skilling programs. I think Florida has

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done a great job through its Department of Labor of

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focusing on that rather than trying to keep people on

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permanent government dependency and exactly you know, direct people you

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know through Hope Florida and and other types of other

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types of programs like that. I think it should be

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a model for the country, for other states as to

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how to best get people into new jobs and retain

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the dignity of work that maintains communities, It holds families together,

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and it really is what the basis of the Great

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American Republic of all these.

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Yeah, we don't want to create ghost towns like you

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know progressives have done traditionally, where they just wipe out

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industry and then they say, well, go fend for yourself

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or you know, like Biden, you know his proposition, it's like,

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look at we need to get ahead of this. We

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see this coming, and so right now, what are we

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still at about seven million jobs that are unfilled? So

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so we need to figure out, okay, of those seven million,

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how many of those are going to still stick around?

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And how do we encourage these young people who are

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now saying, hey, look at now more than ever again.

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This is, like you said, this stuff is starting to comeback.

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Some of this old school kind of stuff where you're

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doing on the job training and apprenticeships and that sort

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of thing is starting to come about, and people are realizing, hey,

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I don't need an Ivy League degree. I mean, what

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is that doing. The only thing that's doing is it's

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saddling me with an incredible amount of tuition debt. And

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you know, I don't know that Joe Biden's coming back

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soon to forgive any more of it, so that means

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I may have to pay it off.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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There's another dimension to this, which is that something like

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eighty percent of all skilled labor in this country are

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family owned small businesses, right, and almost all of those

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are maintained by passing from father's son. But when you

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have a whole generation of sons, you know, the sons

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of electricians and plumbers and elevator installers and all these

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great you know, high paying, well paying, dignified skilled professions

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going to college instead of taking over the family business. Well,

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let's say you get a shortage of elevator installers, which

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I mean, I don't know if people pay attention to this.

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We have a critical shortage of elevator installers. And that

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is one of the more random things that you sometimes

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read about. But like, that's actually like a huge problem

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in America, and we might have accidents and say deep

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problems because of it, and so, but.

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Look at look and look at look at the payday

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for those operation Exactly, they make money.

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You can make six figures by the time you're twenty

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doing that. So there's a lot of great opportunities. I

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think people are beginning to wake up to this.

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Uh.

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Certainly the universities did themselves no favors at all in

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how they've behaved in the last several years, especially at

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the Ivy Weeks. I think a lot of the state

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university systems, particularly in the South and the Midwest, see

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an opportunity here too to really do back to basics education,

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job training. In Florida, there's a renaissance of classical education.

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There's a lot of.

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Good stuff happening, and in many ways, I think they're

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going to start seeing themselves become the preferred institutions for

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a lot of families, those who you know don't have

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family businesses that they are beginning to realize they need

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to pass on to their the to the kids so

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that they can keep they can keep serving the community

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and to and keep those professions alive.

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Exactly. James got a little over a minute left here

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ATR champion the defunding of public broadcasting and NPR as

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we know, and of course Donald Trump signed and executive

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voter halting all direct and indirect federal funding to PBS

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and NPR, slashing something like one point one billion dollars

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from the corporation. And that'll be done over the next

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two years. And so as expected, it's their legacy donors

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that are, you know, writing some big checks to try

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to you know, keep them going, and we'll see how

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that happens. I think the next step will be is

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that maybe they need to rebrand and then start allowing

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for advertisers. And when they start allowing for advertisers, then

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they're going to be forced to open up the doors

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for you know, other points of view. Imagine that.

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Yeah, Also imagine running a radio station through voluntary contributions.

483
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You do something like that, right, yeah, Yeah, it's absurd

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that we've had this in the first place. So good

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on President Trump for leading on this. Good on Congress

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for both passing the recisions package. That's but it's funding

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for the next couple of years. But also when the

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Appropriations Committee advanced the Appropriations Bill hasn't passed yet, but

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it's moving to the floor, they did not restore its funding,

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so those needs sixty votes to pass. They're always by partisan.

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The Democrats did not fight for or get a concession

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from Republicans.

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They stood firm.

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And actually the Corporation Public Broadcasting didn't announce it was

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closing until the day after that bill passed out a

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committee without restoring their funding, So that was the real

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win there. Didn't make as much of a headline, but

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that's when they announced they were closing a couple of

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weeks ago. So VR and PBS will still be around

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if you like them, Yes, call them up on their

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pledge drive, give them a donation. Maybe they can more

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Exactly. He's ATR's Federal affairs manager, James Irwin has been

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you doing, buddy. I'll do it well, though we're all

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still a little reeling a little bit, are we not.

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I mean, this is just unbelievable.

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I'm telling you in Minneapolis on a Catholic church by

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a transgender lunatic and this is like the eighth or

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ninth mass shooting via training.

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It is shot, it is they are training. Actually, there's

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a group called Trancifa, which is a revolution area off

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split split off from Antifa that is encouraging transgender mental

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patients to arm themselves and conduct attacks against Christians Conservatives.

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Trump supporters. It is a revolutionary cell, but spreading multiple states,

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especially the Pacific Northwest.

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And of course you knew right away the answer and

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the problem is guns, and we've got to control guns.

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You know, we're not going to control the perpetrators. And

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we're not going to take any responsibility for what's been

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done in reorienting the brains with these young kids with

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all these chemicals. Right, no responsibility, Nothing talked about that.

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You're going to dose mentally unstable mental patients with cross

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sex with opposite sex hormones. And think about how women

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experience hormonal spikes during pregnancy and sometimes PMS, and they become,

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you know, highly emotional, and they find it hard to

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handle their emotions. They take medication for it. Right, dumping

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these wrong hormones on young men who have all the

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testosterone of men, the aggression of men, but now we're

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giving them the instability of women with the pregnancy blues.

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And an ideology, most importantly, a demonic ideology which tells

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them that they are oppressed not just by society the church,

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but that their own bodies are their enemies, that they

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are trapped in an alien body that doesn't match their

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inner gender. Whichever in one of the forty seven genders

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they've decided on. They've been told that they're trapped in

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an alien body. It's something out of nightmare science fiction movie,

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but even more so, it's something straight from the pit

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of hell. And we have to recognize transgenderism is demonic.

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This is why I call it the LGBTQ my name

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is Legion movement. Notice they use plural pronouns they want

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to call they my name is legion because there are

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many of us. I mean, this is directly demonic. And

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you can see from the Killer's manifesto he has all

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these pictures of Satan he had. It's his mother's parish

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where she used to work in the church.

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Well, he graduated from that. He graduated from that church

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as well over that school.

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Yeah, that's right. So his body is his enemy, the

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church is his enemy, that particular parish is his enemy,

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his family. We transgenderism is the most demonic force. It's actually,

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in some ways worse than abortion.

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And it's amazing, John that our culture is accommodating and

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embracing it instead of seeing it for what it is.

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And you know, and I'm glad you brought this up

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in this form because we've been talking about it all week.

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In terms of understanding good and evil. I know people

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hear good and evil in such a way they're almost

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numb about it. But it's real. You've got to know

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the difference between good and evil.

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Right, and well, we've trained people to talk about abortion providers,

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women's reproductive healthcare choice. So we've already spent the better

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part of my lifetime since nineteen seventy three numbing everyone's consciences.

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We numb their consciousness about pornography, about drugs, about divorce.

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There's a great book called The Revenge of Conscience by

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a philosophy professor je Vedizevski. Don't ask me this fellow's name,

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but the Revenge of Conscience is the book, and it's

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all about how our attempt to deny the natural law

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that God wrote on every human heart. We have to

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deny that, to deny our knowledge of it, to shield

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ourselves from its implications, has produced the chaos and misery

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that afflict society. I wrote a column about this at

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stream dot org. To what degree do we want the

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government to be Christian? Do we want the government to

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be inspired by Christian morality? And I think you need

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to trace a balance. Okay, there are two. There are

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two extremes. There's the extreme of theocracy, where you say, oh,

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this is the true religion this church, Catholic Church, or

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the Methodist Church or the Congregationalist Church.

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Like what happened in Europe. Yes, exactly, and.

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We're going to use the government to enforce this true

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religion so that everybody lives right. That causes Christians to

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persecute each other. It causes intense division. And also, I

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try to explain in my article in the stream, it's

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inherently unfair because there are mysteries of the Christian faith

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that you can only accept if you've been given supernatural

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grace directly from the Holy Spirit, the miraculous infusion of

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saving grace that redeems you. Okay, that comes from God.

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The government can't provide that. The government can't tell if

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a person has received that gift of faith. So if

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the government demands you have to believe in the Trinity,

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we can't prove it rationally, but it's in the scripture.

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You have to believe it. We're demanding the Holy Spirit

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perform a miracle for this person and or or that

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he be a hypocrite and pretend so that's wrong. Okay,

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that theocracy is wrong, and our founders knew that, that's

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why they established had no established church.

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But the opposite that in and of itself, John is

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so brilliant, you know, for our founding fathers to discern

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that and come to the right conclusion.

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Right, And that was the first time it had been

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tried anywhere in the world, right, anywhere in the world

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that have no established religion. It seemed crazy. But there's another.

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The opposite extreme is just as bad, may be worse

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with the government pretending to be absolutely neutral about religious

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truths and moral truth when in fact the government can't

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be neutral. It has to have some moral basis for

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its laws. So if that moral basis is not going

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to be the natural law, then it's going to be

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00:35:12.480 --> 00:35:17.920
some pagan replacement, some crazy, utilitarian or demonic replacement, which

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is what we saw under the Biden Harris administration where

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we had open borders. Four hundred and fifty thousand children

679
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were sent to traffickers.

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And God's jobs exactly, but they had.

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A moral basis. They made up a moral code. There's

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always going to be a moral code at the heart

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00:35:37.840 --> 00:35:41.000
of the government, as Bob Dylan was saying, you got

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to serve somebody. It may be the devil, it may

685
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be the law, but you got to serve somebody. So

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00:35:45.320 --> 00:35:49.599
the government has to have a moral basis, a moral

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law that it's positive. Established laws are based on that

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basis should be natural law. Natural law is what God

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wrote on the human heart, and it's noble by reason.

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It's not you don't have to turn to the Bible,

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though a lot of it's in the Bible, like the Tenderment.

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But natural law is something that the Pagans partly understood.

693
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It's it's something will you argue from the nature of man,

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from who he is, what he needs, from the fact

695
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that he was created by God and has an immortal

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soul that will be judged in the next life. All

697
00:36:25.320 --> 00:36:28.599
those things are knowable by reason. They don't. You don't

698
00:36:28.639 --> 00:36:32.280
need a divine miracle to believe those. So that natural law,

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which is what our founders assumed, would be the basis

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of all our legislation, legislation that natural advocating the natural

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law and ironically or you know, providentially. Pope Leo just

702
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yesterday talked about the importance for Catholics of supporting the

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natural law in government and of a pope, for instance,

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opposing abortion because it violates the natural law. People like

705
00:36:58.320 --> 00:37:01.440
Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi would say, well, I'm personally

706
00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:03.679
opposed to AFO. We're saying because I'm a Catholic, but

707
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I don't want to impose that on other people because

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the separation of church and state. They acted like not

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killing babies in the womb for sexual convenience was like

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night eating fish on Fridays in Latin, like some church regulation,

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some arbit church church regulation, like the color of a

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00:37:19.920 --> 00:37:23.719
nun's habit, when in fact it is it flows from

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the law of God wrote on the human heart. So

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that is Saint Paul said, we would be without excuse.

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There is no excuse for not accepting the natural law. Now,

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the natural law is quite extensive. It prohibits all sorts

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of things. It prohibits pre martal sex, adultery. We don't

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necessarily want there to be laws on every aspect of

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the natural law. In theory, you could do it morally,

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but you don't want a government that's going to punish

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teenage boys for having impure thoughts. Right, You don't want

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a totalitarian government. So what we need is a balance

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between what the natural laws says is wrong and how

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powerful we want the government to be. And that's going

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to be an argument of prudence. That's where the wisdom

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of a statesman come it.

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Comes in exactly. You know, John, we got to go

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to quick break. Let's put a pause on it and

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dot Org. John great background in history of you know,

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what this culture is dealing with and how we're being

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confused by these politicians that you when you need leadership,

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they're not anchored in the natural law and such a

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way to be a positive effect that is needed at

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this time. I mean, case in point with what happened

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in uh in Minnesota with with the you know, I mean,

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I will give the governor some credit. I mean he

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he seemed like he had his head on a little bit.

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Oh no, no, no, Bill, you missed that and I

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miss something.

821
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Yes, yes, okay, I must have missed something. But that

822
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when I when I heard it seemed like he was

823
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he was much more reasonable than the mayor.

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Because he had to cover up something. Tim Walls just

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a couple of months ago declared Minnesota a sanctuary state

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for kids who wanted to transition but parents wouldn't let them,

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So you could flee your parents to Minnesota and get

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your sex change treatment as a.

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Six year old. Yeah that that, Yeah, I agree, I

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agree with that, But I'm what I was talking about

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was his statements that he made post the shooting there

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at the Catholic school go ahead.

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He had to do that because Catholic leaders for almost

834
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a year have been asking for more police protection at

835
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Catholic churches because of threats like this one, and Walts

836
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didn't do it. So that's why Walls had had to

837
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cover and cover his butt because he is directly responsible

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for letting this happen, both by flooding the state with

839
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trannies and refusing security for churches. And the mayor was

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even worse. He was, oh, where are your thoughts and prayers? Now?

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Where's your God?

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Now?

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He was like one of the Roman soldiers taunting Jesus

844
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on the cross.

845
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It was exactly, yeah, no, it was. And not only he,

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but others. You know Jen Pseki and you know the

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statements that she.

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Magico a Catholic and she's mocking thoughts and she's mocking prayer.

849
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What they want they want to use. They're training these

850
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transgender lunatics to be political soldiers. They know they're going

851
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to be attacks like this, and they're waiting for them

852
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to use them as excuses to grab our guns to

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disarm the population, so we will be helpless at the

854
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hands of the next lunatic that they have created, they

855
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have groomed. This is why I wrote an entire book

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about this.

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No I'm glad, I'm glad you. I was just going

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to ask you about No Second, No first, go second.

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Amendment, No First, about the direct connection between our religious

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freedom and our ability to defend that freedom from attacks

861
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like this one and attacks by tyrannical government. There's a

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fundamental connection between the human the vision of the human

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person as an image bearer of God right and that

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person's right to follow his religious conscience and to defend

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himself and his family. They both flow from the human

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dignity that we find in the Gospel and in the

867
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Old Testament, in the whole by Biblical vision of man.

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And that's why the enemies of the Bible, the enemies

869
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of Christianity and a morality, want us to be helpless

870
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and disarmed. Of course, people like Czar and Kuwame Mamdani,

871
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the Muslim socialist who's going to become mayor of New York,

872
00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:56.239
it seems he wants to defund and disarm the police too,

873
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and in fact just stop enforcing the law against on

874
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misdemeanors so that people can go loot stores, take whatever

875
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they want. But he wants that because he wants to

876
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get rid of private businesses and replace them with government stores.

877
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He openly wants to turn New York City into Havana,

878
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Cuba under Fidel Castro. That's his vision of the future,

879
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as laid out by the organization. He belongs to the

880
00:46:19.840 --> 00:46:24.679
so called Democratic Socialists of America, who are essentially Marxists.

881
00:46:24.760 --> 00:46:27.559
They're Marxists who want to come to power through elections

882
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rather than revolution. But that's the only difference.

883
00:46:30.559 --> 00:46:34.679
Right, Yeah, they're just you know, some have said socialist

884
00:46:34.840 --> 00:46:38.320
like versus communism, but it all goes down that same road.

885
00:46:38.800 --> 00:46:41.760
It all ends up because socialism has a logic that

886
00:46:41.840 --> 00:46:45.559
it follows inexorably. The government must control all the means

887
00:46:45.559 --> 00:46:49.400
of production. That means your entire life, from top to bottom,

888
00:46:49.519 --> 00:46:52.000
is controlled by the government. The way he was in Cuba.

889
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I had a friend who grew up in Cuba, and

890
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on Sunday mornings, all the kids would have to go

891
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to parades so they wouldn't go to church. Every week

892
00:47:00.119 --> 00:47:02.880
there was a patriotic parade so that the kids couldn't

893
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go to mass. That's how they roll. Look, they closed

894
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their churches during COVID. They didn't close the abortion clinics.

895
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Those are the left's churches. The left churches are abortion clinics,

896
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and they have sacrifices there every single day, and those

897
00:47:18.920 --> 00:47:21.880
were too essential to close during COVID. But our bishops

898
00:47:21.920 --> 00:47:24.280
meekly shut the doors of all our churches all across

899
00:47:24.360 --> 00:47:26.920
America because they got checks from the government. They got

900
00:47:26.920 --> 00:47:29.880
PPP checks, so they didn't need the Sunday collection and

901
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they could sleep it.

902
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So well, you know, if we don't learn from history, John,

903
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you know, as they say, we repeat it. And here

904
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we are. I mean, we're we're knocking on the devil's door,

905
00:47:41.679 --> 00:47:44.360
not even on Heaven's door. With all that's happening.

906
00:47:44.199 --> 00:47:48.760
Right now, God, the Trump administration is showing understanding of

907
00:47:48.840 --> 00:47:51.840
natural law on one issue after another. They're cleaning out

908
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the CDC, they're clearing out the NIH they're deporting criminal aliens,

909
00:47:58.119 --> 00:48:03.519
they're encouraging self deportation, and they're aggressively moving against the

910
00:48:03.679 --> 00:48:07.159
bad actors in the deep state. Let's pray that Trump

911
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really goes ahead with his plan to clean up our

912
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elections to get rid of the phony rigged, fraudulent voting machines,

913
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which we're increasing the learn learn learning. We're crafted in Venezuela.

914
00:48:22.400 --> 00:48:26.280
The ballots are counted in Serbia, they're on servers in China.

915
00:48:26.719 --> 00:48:29.719
How is this happening? How are our elections being outsourced

916
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to third world countries, communist countries, far enemy countries.

917
00:48:36.719 --> 00:48:39.719
Well, it's it's embarrassing. When you got to Vladimir Putin

918
00:48:39.840 --> 00:48:43.119
telling Trump when they met in Alaska that you know

919
00:48:43.239 --> 00:48:46.920
that that mail in ballot system is just right with fraud.

920
00:48:47.159 --> 00:48:52.840
It's like, okay, we're having and a kgb uh operative

921
00:48:52.920 --> 00:48:55.360
telling us you know what's wrong with our voting system.

922
00:48:55.519 --> 00:48:58.519
I mean, it's clear we we know what's wrong with it. Uh,

923
00:48:58.760 --> 00:49:00.800
you know the majority of America and know what's wrong

924
00:49:00.840 --> 00:49:03.840
with it. But the people that have been controlling the levers,

925
00:49:03.880 --> 00:49:06.880
the Democratic parties, say oh no, it's working just fine.

926
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Why it's not.

927
00:49:08.400 --> 00:49:11.039
But it's not just the Democrats. The Rhinos don't want

928
00:49:11.079 --> 00:49:15.039
to fix election fraud either. Because the Democrats use election

929
00:49:15.119 --> 00:49:18.119
fraud to steal the general election. The Rhinos use them

930
00:49:18.159 --> 00:49:22.519
to steal the primaries for MAGA candidates. So that's why

931
00:49:22.760 --> 00:49:25.119
people like Brian Kemp and Georgia don't want to fix

932
00:49:25.119 --> 00:49:28.920
the elections because they are already fixing the elections. They're

933
00:49:28.960 --> 00:49:33.039
already stealing elections. They're part of the same corrupt system

934
00:49:33.320 --> 00:49:36.960
the Bill Barrs and John Bolton's and Lindsey Graham's of

935
00:49:37.000 --> 00:49:39.800
this world. They're every bit as bad as the Democrats,

936
00:49:39.800 --> 00:49:45.159
in some ways worse, because a rhino is a Democrat

937
00:49:45.320 --> 00:49:47.719
is like a noisy neighborho throws beer cans over your

938
00:49:47.719 --> 00:49:51.360
fence into your eard. A rhino is like a squatter

939
00:49:51.519 --> 00:49:54.079
who's living in your house, eating out of your refrigerator

940
00:49:54.119 --> 00:49:56.360
and sleeping in your bed and you can't get him

941
00:49:56.360 --> 00:49:59.239
out and he's claiming your house. That's the Rhinos. They

942
00:49:59.239 --> 00:50:01.480
are squatters, and we have to kick them out before

943
00:50:01.559 --> 00:50:02.679
we can fix anything else.

944
00:50:03.039 --> 00:50:06.199
Well, John, the midterms coming faster than you know, as

945
00:50:06.239 --> 00:50:09.760
we said, faster than the speed of light. Donald Trump

946
00:50:09.800 --> 00:50:13.159
needs reinforcements. I mean, it is critical that we the

947
00:50:13.239 --> 00:50:16.800
people get the right people and by the right people,

948
00:50:16.880 --> 00:50:21.760
those that believe in the Trump agenda and America first,

949
00:50:22.039 --> 00:50:26.360
and they go and reinforce you know what's happening here

950
00:50:26.440 --> 00:50:28.280
in DC and around the country.

951
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We need to vote in primaries for magni candidates, and

952
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we need to pray for the president. We need to

953
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publicly support the president. When people try to threaten or

954
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intimidate us for supporting the president, we have to push

955
00:50:39.960 --> 00:50:43.199
back aggressively let them know we don't live in communist

956
00:50:43.239 --> 00:50:46.519
Cuba yet, and by God's grace, we're never going to

957
00:50:46.559 --> 00:50:50.280
live in the kind of tyrannical society that you create

958
00:50:50.360 --> 00:50:53.679
in states like Michigan and California, then you imposed on

959
00:50:53.800 --> 00:50:56.840
all the states during the COVID panic. You have to

960
00:50:56.880 --> 00:50:59.840
see the COVID panic was it was like an episode

961
00:50:59.840 --> 00:51:03.039
of mental illness, but it was imposed on us by force.

962
00:51:03.400 --> 00:51:07.320
It's like the mk ultra experiments. Well us need to

963
00:51:07.400 --> 00:51:10.440
college students without telling them to watch how they reacted

964
00:51:10.559 --> 00:51:14.719
as a way of developing mind control. The COVID lockdowns

965
00:51:15.079 --> 00:51:18.079
and the force vaccination, all of it was an experiment

966
00:51:18.119 --> 00:51:22.119
to see how much authoritarian coercion they could get away

967
00:51:22.159 --> 00:51:24.760
with before the people rebelled. And the people didn't rebel,

968
00:51:25.000 --> 00:51:27.760
so to that the experiment was a great success, and

969
00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:30.159
they plan to do it again, but next time it'll

970
00:51:30.159 --> 00:51:30.760
be permanent.

971
00:51:31.239 --> 00:51:34.679
Yeah, And the people through this process, though, john have

972
00:51:34.880 --> 00:51:39.599
learned based on the data and the evidence how much

973
00:51:39.679 --> 00:51:42.000
they lied to us, and I think it's going to

974
00:51:42.079 --> 00:51:45.320
be a little bit challenging, or at least more challenging.

975
00:51:45.360 --> 00:51:47.639
I would hope to God it would be for them

976
00:51:47.679 --> 00:51:49.639
to do the same thing. But there's no question. I mean,

977
00:51:49.679 --> 00:51:52.480
they got the bird flu, they got monkey pocks, they've

978
00:51:52.480 --> 00:51:56.960
got already pandemics in the offing, and vaccines to the ready.

979
00:51:57.320 --> 00:52:00.480
That's right, that's right, And it's all a way getting

980
00:52:00.840 --> 00:52:04.719
direct control over the bodies and minds of every single American.

981
00:52:04.920 --> 00:52:10.119
They want us disarmed, vaccinated with experimental vaccines, cowering in

982
00:52:10.199 --> 00:52:12.679
fear from the unknown, weird new diseases that they are

983
00:52:12.719 --> 00:52:15.800
intentionally developing in government labs like COVID.

984
00:52:16.320 --> 00:52:19.320
Right, even though it's even though it's against the law, right,

985
00:52:19.480 --> 00:52:20.760
what law right?

986
00:52:21.719 --> 00:52:23.679
We have to find a way to put Anthony Fauci

987
00:52:23.719 --> 00:52:27.039
in prison. We have to that autopen pardon has to

988
00:52:27.039 --> 00:52:30.440
be invalidated. That man has got to rot in prison.

989
00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:33.199
There's at such a long list of people who need

990
00:52:33.239 --> 00:52:37.719
to be in orange jumpsuits to deter the next massive

991
00:52:37.800 --> 00:52:41.920
crime against humanity that they're planning to do so they

992
00:52:41.960 --> 00:52:45.639
can control us under the rubric of public health. Whenever

993
00:52:45.679 --> 00:52:49.760
you anyone uses the phrase public health right there, that

994
00:52:49.800 --> 00:52:53.559
person is your enemy. That person is against your freedom,

995
00:52:53.599 --> 00:52:56.760
that person is right they talk about gun violence as

996
00:52:56.800 --> 00:52:59.719
a threat to public health, Well, they mean it's citizens

997
00:52:59.719 --> 00:53:03.320
being armed to defend themselves against the lunatics they're producing

998
00:53:03.400 --> 00:53:05.639
in their transgender clinics exactly.

999
00:53:06.000 --> 00:53:08.440
And the thing is, John, and we don't have enough

1000
00:53:08.480 --> 00:53:11.239
time to really get too deep into this, but what

1001
00:53:11.320 --> 00:53:14.719
I am challenged with is that if you exercise your

1002
00:53:14.760 --> 00:53:17.559
second Amendment right, I mean, it's like as if you're

1003
00:53:17.599 --> 00:53:20.199
the criminal. You know they take away your guns. They

1004
00:53:20.519 --> 00:53:23.320
you know it's going to cost you, depending on the situation,

1005
00:53:23.320 --> 00:53:25.760
it cost you at least twelve thousand dollars to defend yourself.

1006
00:53:25.920 --> 00:53:28.760
Look, but they tried to throw Kyle Ritnhou's in jail

1007
00:53:28.800 --> 00:53:31.239
for the rest of life for defending himself against a

1008
00:53:31.239 --> 00:53:34.519
convicted pedophile who was shooting at it. Thank god, there

1009
00:53:34.519 --> 00:53:36.559
were a couple, There were decent people on that jury.

1010
00:53:36.559 --> 00:53:39.639
If there were in another state, if we were in Washington.

1011
00:53:39.320 --> 00:53:39.559
D c.

1012
00:53:39.800 --> 00:53:41.360
Oh my gosh, yes, you would have gone to.

1013
00:53:41.400 --> 00:53:43.880
Prison, just like the innocent January sixth defendants.

1014
00:53:45.159 --> 00:53:48.079
Well, doctor John's America has been with us John about

1015
00:53:48.119 --> 00:53:50.760
twenty seconds left. I'm going to let you summarize it.

1016
00:53:50.800 --> 00:53:51.800
Bring us home. Go ahead.

1017
00:53:53.599 --> 00:53:56.199
We have to fight against the enemies of freedom, who

1018
00:53:56.239 --> 00:53:58.719
are also the enemies of the Gospel and the enemies

1019
00:53:58.840 --> 00:54:01.719
of the United States. And we need to pray, pray

1020
00:54:01.800 --> 00:54:05.440
like crazy, because this is what we face is centrally

1021
00:54:05.440 --> 00:54:06.719
directed as from the pit.

1022
00:54:06.639 --> 00:54:09.840
Of hell, without a doubt. Doctor John Zameric from stream

1023
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dot org, Thank you, John, Take care of you. Blessed

1024
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you got it.

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Getting America back on track.

1044
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Bill Martinez live, hey.

1045
00:55:25.320 --> 00:55:27.159
Right now, six minutes after the top of the hour,

1046
00:55:27.360 --> 00:55:30.440
And I'll tell you it. Common sense is is reigning

1047
00:55:31.400 --> 00:55:36.480
and it continues to fight against this DEI movement that's

1048
00:55:36.519 --> 00:55:43.559
happening again. We have another another casualty in DEI, and

1049
00:55:43.559 --> 00:55:48.159
that is Cracker Barrel's short term experience. But you know,

1050
00:55:48.199 --> 00:55:51.199
I think the CEO might save her job by saying, Okay,

1051
00:55:51.239 --> 00:55:52.559
it was a boneheaded idea.

1052
00:55:52.760 --> 00:55:53.280
I get it.

1053
00:55:53.360 --> 00:55:55.920
We should we should have learned from you know, whether

1054
00:55:55.920 --> 00:55:57.920
it was Disney or butt Light or any of these

1055
00:55:57.920 --> 00:56:02.199
other DEI companies that are finding out that that ship

1056
00:56:02.239 --> 00:56:05.000
has sailed and it doesn't work. But oh yeah, by

1057
00:56:05.000 --> 00:56:08.519
the way, I got you probably a half million to

1058
00:56:08.800 --> 00:56:18.639
a billion dollars worth of free advertising, right, I tell you, well,

1059
00:56:18.960 --> 00:56:22.000
you know, Scott, right when you think that it's over,

1060
00:56:22.119 --> 00:56:24.840
it's like it's just so obvious. And I was talking

1061
00:56:24.840 --> 00:56:27.199
with somebody else earlier today about this, and that is that,

1062
00:56:27.840 --> 00:56:30.960
you know, God bless Donald Trump, because Donald Trump owns

1063
00:56:31.119 --> 00:56:34.440
I mean, you've got eighty twenty issues, ninety ten issues,

1064
00:56:34.679 --> 00:56:37.519
and the Democrats they don't have a flag planted on

1065
00:56:37.639 --> 00:56:42.000
any one of those majority issues. Whether it's immigration, whether

1066
00:56:42.079 --> 00:56:47.920
it's crime, whether it's affordability issues, you know, fair trade,

1067
00:56:48.199 --> 00:56:53.360
whether it's national security, whether it's peace. I mean, they're

1068
00:56:53.440 --> 00:56:59.239
so you know, adversarial and argumentative that you know that

1069
00:56:59.280 --> 00:57:04.960
they've least put themselves out in a desert wasteland experience

1070
00:57:05.480 --> 00:57:09.559
because they're so out of step with the majority of Americans.

1071
00:57:09.599 --> 00:57:12.840
Gun, well, you I couldn't have said it better. Bill,

1072
00:57:12.960 --> 00:57:18.840
You just articulated exactly what is the you know, what's

1073
00:57:18.880 --> 00:57:21.960
the current state of political affairs in America. And it's

1074
00:57:22.079 --> 00:57:26.000
very sad that a country that once thrived on diversity

1075
00:57:26.280 --> 00:57:30.679
and you know, a pretty robust two party system that

1076
00:57:30.679 --> 00:57:37.400
that shared central values, values that you know that were

1077
00:57:37.440 --> 00:57:42.039
part of our country from the beginning, that they've vacated

1078
00:57:42.119 --> 00:57:46.519
all of that and we don't have the two party

1079
00:57:46.559 --> 00:57:49.800
system that we used to have. Yeah, we have a party,

1080
00:57:49.840 --> 00:57:56.280
we have a party of of of positive orientation of

1081
00:57:57.920 --> 00:58:04.119
you know, of celebrating what is good, celebrating unity, inclusion,

1082
00:58:04.599 --> 00:58:08.960
and then we have another party that celebrates destruction, lawlessness,

1083
00:58:11.920 --> 00:58:16.000
you know, the defamation of our country in so many

1084
00:58:16.039 --> 00:58:20.239
different ways. It's really quite amazing that we have arrived

1085
00:58:20.280 --> 00:58:23.480
at this place. But I think it is a marker

1086
00:58:23.519 --> 00:58:29.239
of the end of this phenomena, and it's probably going

1087
00:58:29.320 --> 00:58:32.280
to be They're not going to go down easy, but

1088
00:58:33.239 --> 00:58:34.639
I think you know, we're the victors.

1089
00:58:35.119 --> 00:58:38.840
Yeah, well, because they lust for power and control and

1090
00:58:38.880 --> 00:58:41.800
it's so much in their bloodstream and desperate. I mean,

1091
00:58:41.840 --> 00:58:44.360
it's like you're taking their very breath away. I mean,

1092
00:58:44.800 --> 00:58:47.679
you know yourself, if somebody starts to strangle you, what

1093
00:58:47.679 --> 00:58:49.159
are you going to do. You're going to fight to live.

1094
00:58:49.519 --> 00:58:51.679
And that's what they're trying to do, because we're choking

1095
00:58:51.719 --> 00:58:55.960
off their very root of existence, which is power and control.

1096
00:58:56.920 --> 00:58:59.880
You know. The thing is that you mentioned diversity, and

1097
00:59:00.119 --> 00:59:04.440
there was a pastor at this DNC three day confab

1098
00:59:04.840 --> 00:59:07.880
and he was talking about you know, diversity, equity and

1099
00:59:07.880 --> 00:59:12.159
inclusion DEI being the hallmark of Christianity. I mean it's

1100
00:59:12.199 --> 00:59:15.119
like talk about taking something out of context, but I

1101
00:59:15.199 --> 00:59:17.320
want to focus on diversity for just a moment, because

1102
00:59:17.320 --> 00:59:20.800
you brought that up. Look at America, Scott, when you

1103
00:59:20.840 --> 00:59:23.000
and I were young kids growing up versus where we

1104
00:59:23.039 --> 00:59:26.119
are right now. You didn't have to put a title

1105
00:59:26.159 --> 00:59:29.960
on diversity. We became a diverse nation, as you said,

1106
00:59:30.719 --> 00:59:38.480
just through natural evolution of capitalism, of giving people a

1107
00:59:38.519 --> 00:59:42.280
fair opportunity, a fair chance of being successful, allowing people

1108
00:59:42.360 --> 00:59:44.880
of all racist color and creed to come into the country.

1109
00:59:45.199 --> 00:59:47.480
And you know, hopefully you were here to do no

1110
00:59:47.639 --> 00:59:50.679
harm and to do right for yourself and for your family,

1111
00:59:50.719 --> 00:59:54.480
and for those immigrants who did There is one success

1112
00:59:54.519 --> 00:59:58.039
story after another. And the diversity is right in front

1113
00:59:58.079 --> 01:00:02.679
of your face. Now. As far as equity is concerned,

1114
01:00:03.119 --> 01:00:05.599
nobody's saying, hey, we should all be making the same

1115
01:00:05.639 --> 01:00:09.639
thing as Lebron James makes. I mean, that's ludicrous, but

1116
01:00:10.119 --> 01:00:12.320
you know some people would, you know, they try to

1117
01:00:12.679 --> 01:00:16.320
handle that argument doesn't play out in real life. You know,

1118
01:00:16.400 --> 01:00:19.079
there are some people that are more talented, or they're

1119
01:00:19.079 --> 01:00:21.960
in the right spot, the right place, right time. You know,

1120
01:00:22.079 --> 01:00:25.440
Jeff Bezos, for example, anybody in this country could have

1121
01:00:25.679 --> 01:00:29.719
worked out a deal with China and developed Amazon, but

1122
01:00:29.760 --> 01:00:32.039
it was Jeff Bezos and his wife that did that,

1123
01:00:32.599 --> 01:00:35.320
And so all of a sudden, he's supposed to be

1124
01:00:35.360 --> 01:00:39.639
punished because there was an opportunity that he uh, you know,

1125
01:00:39.719 --> 01:00:41.320
put it all on the line. I mean, he had

1126
01:00:41.360 --> 01:00:43.360
to roll the dice on it. It wasn't like somebody just

1127
01:00:43.599 --> 01:00:45.840
you know, put it in his lap. He had to

1128
01:00:45.880 --> 01:00:46.679
earn it, didn't he.

1129
01:00:47.199 --> 01:00:51.159
Oh, absolutely absolutely. And I was an early critic of

1130
01:00:51.199 --> 01:00:55.960
Jeff Bezos because I lived in Seattle. Amazon came into

1131
01:00:55.679 --> 01:00:58.840
into Seattle and at that time, you know, they were

1132
01:00:58.920 --> 01:01:03.280
selling books and records. I thought, that's a nice business model.

1133
01:01:03.320 --> 01:01:05.679
I think that would have worked. And then they decided

1134
01:01:05.719 --> 01:01:08.960
that they could sell everything, and I thought, there is

1135
01:01:09.039 --> 01:01:12.280
no way that any company can do that. It's a

1136
01:01:12.320 --> 01:01:15.840
supply chain nightmare. You can't do it right. And yet

1137
01:01:15.960 --> 01:01:18.039
Amazon found a way to do it.

1138
01:01:18.480 --> 01:01:22.039
Yeah, amazingactly, Yeah it is. It is amazing. So, you know,

1139
01:01:22.119 --> 01:01:25.159
this whole DEI issue, I think it's all a lot

1140
01:01:25.199 --> 01:01:28.480
to do about nothing. There's no there there in it.

1141
01:01:28.480 --> 01:01:31.880
It's all just for argument, all just to hate and divide.

1142
01:01:32.159 --> 01:01:35.679
It doesn't elevate. But in the natural course and development

1143
01:01:35.719 --> 01:01:40.159
of our humanity and capitalism, we are diverse we are equitable.

1144
01:01:40.440 --> 01:01:42.599
You know, if you put in the hard work, you know,

1145
01:01:42.920 --> 01:01:45.000
for the most part, you know, you're going to reap

1146
01:01:45.039 --> 01:01:48.239
what you sew. It's it's a natural order that God

1147
01:01:48.280 --> 01:01:52.800
has designed, you know, for for inspiration, right, yes, yeah, absolutely,

1148
01:01:53.239 --> 01:01:55.960
And inclusion is up to you. I mean, if you

1149
01:01:56.000 --> 01:01:57.920
want to be part of the game, you can be

1150
01:01:57.960 --> 01:02:00.679
part of the game. If you want to be rock

1151
01:02:00.679 --> 01:02:03.960
and Island under yourself, like Simon and Garbunkle saying, you know,

1152
01:02:04.039 --> 01:02:06.440
that's that's up that's up to you. That's your choice.

1153
01:02:06.480 --> 01:02:10.639
It's uh, it's the freedom that abounds here in this country.

1154
01:02:10.960 --> 01:02:17.159
Right, absolutely, absolutely. But the freedom of course is uh,

1155
01:02:17.280 --> 01:02:19.840
you know, has has boundaries to it. You know, I

1156
01:02:19.840 --> 01:02:23.320
think we have a lot to learn from sports because

1157
01:02:23.920 --> 01:02:31.480
in many ways it sports is so instructive about what,

1158
01:02:32.320 --> 01:02:34.559
you know, what American success is all about. Of course,

1159
01:02:34.599 --> 01:02:37.199
sports is a very important part of our culture. But

1160
01:02:37.239 --> 01:02:39.239
think about you know, think about.

1161
01:02:39.119 --> 01:02:41.199
But but why why is it though you're touching on

1162
01:02:41.239 --> 01:02:41.800
something right now?

1163
01:02:41.840 --> 01:02:51.400
Yeah, why because sports stress is the importance of of

1164
01:02:51.400 --> 01:02:56.159
of talent merit. You don't you know, you you don't

1165
01:02:56.159 --> 01:03:00.559
get to the top in sports unless you're really excellent, right,

1166
01:03:00.880 --> 01:03:04.840
you know, and you have you know, so competition fosters,

1167
01:03:05.199 --> 01:03:10.000
you know, greatness, it raises up greatness. And it also

1168
01:03:11.079 --> 01:03:16.039
many sports that we the most popular sports are generally

1169
01:03:16.159 --> 01:03:21.119
team sports. And and so we're we're instructed to see

1170
01:03:21.159 --> 01:03:25.559
how how important it is as important as individuals are

1171
01:03:25.800 --> 01:03:30.440
in their merit and success. Success is also a function

1172
01:03:30.480 --> 01:03:34.800
of teamwork, right, and that has always been part of America.

1173
01:03:35.639 --> 01:03:37.000
Respect for other people.

1174
01:03:37.400 --> 01:03:40.159
And Scott, if I might add, there's a prize at

1175
01:03:40.199 --> 01:03:42.440
the end of it all, there's a reward, there's a

1176
01:03:42.519 --> 01:03:46.480
petro Right, So those three dynamics are very much a

1177
01:03:46.480 --> 01:03:50.079
part of sports, which is emblematic of what life in

1178
01:03:50.119 --> 01:03:52.920
America is all about. Right, right, that's what you're saying.

1179
01:03:53.000 --> 01:03:55.840
I agree, yes, but I'd go further and be able

1180
01:03:55.880 --> 01:03:58.519
to and suggest that we can see the problems in

1181
01:03:58.559 --> 01:04:02.599
America by what would happen in sports if we took

1182
01:04:02.639 --> 01:04:07.639
away the rules. For instance, if the if the the

1183
01:04:07.639 --> 01:04:11.360
referee arrives at the football game, you know, one Saturday,

1184
01:04:11.400 --> 01:04:14.239
it says, you know, this is a great sport because

1185
01:04:14.800 --> 01:04:16.880
you've got to get the ball over the other other

1186
01:04:16.920 --> 01:04:20.679
guys goal line. That's so we're going to do that,

1187
01:04:21.119 --> 01:04:23.079
and you can and you can pursue it any way

1188
01:04:23.119 --> 01:04:26.960
you want. There will be no rules. There'll be no

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you know there's We're going to suspend the rules and

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allow you to fight hard and get your and whoever.

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Gets more more more goals will win the game. What

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would happen? What Scott for real? Quick? We got to

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spend the time for just a minute. We got to

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top of the hour. I'm Bill Martinez and he is

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Scott Powell. And Scott is an author and of course

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you know a contributor. He's also with this Present Danger

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China the Discovery Institute, and Scott, you were saying that

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you know the rules of the game here here gota

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ficial be and says, hey, I got a better idea suddenly.

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Right, Well, if you took away all the rules of

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the game and just had a free for all, what

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would happen on that on that football field, people would

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get hurt, It'd be chaos, the you know, the goal

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of the goal goals would have been destroyed. And similarly

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in America, you know, we have to have law and order.

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We have to have.

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Boundaries to you know, to our you know, to our

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lives and to the way we're governed and the way

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we think about things. And if we stay within the

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boundaries we have, you know, we have ultimate freedom. We're

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freedom within boundaries is what leads to success.

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Right, what the.

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Democrats, what the left has done, is take away all

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the boundaries.

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You know, they because freedom, as you say, Scott, freedom

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comes from God, and God gives us freedom. Like you said,

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they're boundaries to protect the integrity of what he has created.

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If we are consistent in honoring the freedoms that He's established,

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it goes, it goes mobeta for us, doesn't it so

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oh much? Absolutely well?

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Said yep, all of this really, God's order is what

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we need to restore. And when you think about all

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of our all of our problems, almost all of our problems.

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I would even say, every problem we have in America,

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it can be addressed and solved by that great book

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called the Bible. Every single problem we have, whether it's

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the transgenders or the you know, uh, the racial issues,

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they're they're all put into proper context.

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Well, why did why did you speaking of the racial issue?

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Why was America motivated to do something about the racial

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issue if it wasn't the word of God. It was

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even included in the Constitution. You know, if you weren't

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going to make all men that God had created all

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men equal, why would you put that line in there.

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You knew that that was a down payment for what

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was coming down the road, and that was that all

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men were going to be free in America.

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Absolutely, yeah, I mean it was very prescient, uh, you know,

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for for Jefferson who have stated that in the Declaration

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of Independence when at that very time America did not

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reflect those ideas, all those ideals, right, but he cast

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a vision that you know that took root and bore

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fruit in the civil rights movement. Almost two centuries later, right,

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But I would dare say there were probably more people

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that were of a religious inclination in our founding than

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they are today. Oh absolutely with modern secularism and what's

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going on. And as you were, you've written about here recently,

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which we come back to the you know, fighting for

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the heart and soul of America, which is a spiritual issue.

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And I understand some people who are watching and listening today,

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may you know, may you know, kind of snap their

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neck a little bit, And I'm sorry if that offends you,

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but I have to be honest and Scott, and I

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have to be honest and truthful with you because if

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you have a.

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Better idea, then speak up up. But you know, for

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almost two hundred and fifty years we were founded on Judaeo,

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Prince jujail Christian principles. And we see time and again

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when we are consistent in following those principles, it goes

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well for us. When we violate those principles, then we

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go into a nosedive. And this is where America has been.

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And thank God for Donald Trump and where we are

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right now, it's like, you know, by God's grace and mercy,

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Scott He's given us a reprieve, a chance to figure

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this out, to say, Okay, are you going you know,

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God's I guess he's at the door knocking and saying, hey,

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are you going to answer? I am knocking at the door.

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Are you going to answer the door? Are you going

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to continue to ignore me? Yes? Absolutely?

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I mean what we really see the contrast, and I

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point this out in the article that was just published

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today in a Federalists on the importance of the restoration

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of the Reconciliation Monument in Arlington Cemeteries. Huge spiritual and

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symbolic significance to that monument. That is, that is the

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most beautiful and unique monument in all of Arlington Cemetery,

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or it was. It's now been taken down because of

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the woke revolution that took place, and you know, with

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COVID and the aftermath and the naming commission, the George

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Floyd Floyd Ryot's really really divided our country and and we've.

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That And the thing is is so disturbing about that, Scott.

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If it was a natural, organic response, that would be

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one thing. This was all manufactured, right, okay, And I

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don't mean to make it seem like as if you know,

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the racial divide didn't exist and that but it didn't.

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It wasn't to the point. This thing was ginned up

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and it ended up costing the country billions of dollars.

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It cost the you know, the city of Minneapolis what

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twenty seven million dollars to pay off what they determined

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to be a wrongful death suit, a wrongful death of

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George Floyd, who was you know, what what do you

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have twelve times the amount of fatal ventanyl and his

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legal dam. I don't know, but I mean it was insane,

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you know, but we we were living in a period

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what happened in Saint Louis.

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Well, really, the the Obama administration, our first black president,

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Barack Obama was so great, there wouldn't have been it

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wouldn't have been necessary for Donald Trump to come in, right. Well,

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have solutions exactly.

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Yeah. Yeah, and you know it's like it's okay to

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be normal again. I think somebody said the normies are back.

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Somebody had made recently that comment the normies are back. Okay,

1427
01:17:46.039 --> 01:17:48.359
well that's good, you know, because you know, you got

1428
01:17:48.720 --> 01:17:52.640
Cracker Barrel is now you know, going to re embrace

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01:17:53.000 --> 01:17:56.560
Uncle Herschel and the old logos back. And you know,

1430
01:17:58.000 --> 01:18:00.239
it was just amazing. And of course I wrote an

1431
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article a couple of weeks ago about that shalt not

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kill thy brand. And no sooner I write that article.

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You know, you got a Cracker. I guess it didn't

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01:18:09.159 --> 01:18:11.960
get into the boardroom of Cracker Barrel, uh, you know,

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01:18:12.000 --> 01:18:14.199
because they went ahead and tried to destroy their brand.

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But fortunately there wasn't enough ego to stop that. That

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01:18:17.640 --> 01:18:20.359
they were smart enough to say, okay, maybe we had

1438
01:18:20.359 --> 01:18:22.760
to listen to what Donald Trump is saying, let's listen

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to our customers. And you know, and and look what happened.

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Their stock is back up, you know, and they got

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01:18:28.800 --> 01:18:33.039
probably almost a billion dollars in uh, you know, an

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01:18:33.079 --> 01:18:36.439
income have a quotion in and name recalls. So we'll see,

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01:18:36.520 --> 01:18:38.960
we'll see what happens here. So anyway, we got about

1444
01:18:39.000 --> 01:18:41.319
forty seconds left. I'm gonna let you wrap it up, Scott,

1445
01:18:41.319 --> 01:18:41.720
go ahead.

1446
01:18:42.359 --> 01:18:46.720
Well, we're living we're living in very critical times.

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Uh.

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01:18:47.159 --> 01:18:49.439
The spiritual battle to save.

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01:18:49.239 --> 01:18:54.720
America is in full Uh you know, it's it's it's

1450
01:18:54.760 --> 01:19:01.560
on full display almost every day. And the enemies of America,

1451
01:19:01.680 --> 01:19:05.319
the enemies of Donald Trump, are revealing who.

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01:19:05.159 --> 01:19:07.840
They really are. They really are.

1453
01:19:08.960 --> 01:19:12.760
They really are people that want to destroy, They really

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01:19:12.800 --> 01:19:16.039
are people that embrace lawlessness. There they are the people

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01:19:16.640 --> 01:19:20.399
who open the borders to anyone who wanted to come

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01:19:20.399 --> 01:19:23.720
in America. A lot of bad actors, and most of

1457
01:19:23.760 --> 01:19:30.359
our problems, you know, are a result of the departure

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01:19:30.760 --> 01:19:32.800
from those principles that made us great.

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01:19:33.640 --> 01:19:37.319
Scott. It's still about good and evil, isn't it. No, People,

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01:19:37.720 --> 01:19:40.239
it bothers people Sometimes they go Bill or so are,

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01:19:40.960 --> 01:19:44.119
but no, it really is. It's black and white. You

1462
01:19:44.239 --> 01:19:46.319
have a choice. You can either choose for good or

1463
01:19:46.399 --> 01:19:49.479
choose for evil. And that's what it comes down to.

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01:19:49.880 --> 01:19:52.319
So whatever policy, I don't care if you're a Republican

1465
01:19:52.359 --> 01:19:56.600
Democrat political deal, does that policy promote good or does

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01:19:56.640 --> 01:19:57.920
it promote evils?

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01:19:58.000 --> 01:19:58.159
Right?

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01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:05.079
Does it promote unity or does it promote division? Does

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01:20:05.119 --> 01:20:10.159
it promote order and you know, a playing field that

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01:20:10.239 --> 01:20:14.640
everyone can thrive, or does it promote lawlessness?

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Exactly. You're going to go down the list, and it's

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01:20:17.279 --> 01:20:19.479
all good and evil. You can put it in one

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01:20:19.560 --> 01:20:22.880
column or the other. That's right. I mean, it's really

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01:20:22.880 --> 01:20:25.520
to me it is it is common sensical that that

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01:20:26.039 --> 01:20:29.000
we got to leave it there. My friend Scott Powell,

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01:20:29.199 --> 01:20:31.560
the author, member of the Committee on this Present Danger China,

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01:20:31.640 --> 01:20:35.000
a senior fellow at the Discovery Institute, and your article

1478
01:20:35.079 --> 01:20:38.720
is at the Federalist right yep today check it out.

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Spiritual battle is save America is being fought in our

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01:20:41.560 --> 01:20:43.840
linkedon cemetery. Thank you, Scott Powell.

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Take care okay, Bill, thank you.

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While we're back with you. Good morning, Bill Martinez here

1551
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along with Jenny Beth Market for the Tea Party Patriots Action.

1552
01:24:58.039 --> 01:25:01.399
She's on her Only Citizens Vote bus tour and it's

1553
01:25:01.520 --> 01:25:05.720
rumbling along Wisconsin and now in Illinois. Hey, by the way,

1554
01:25:05.720 --> 01:25:09.640
when you're there in Illinois, give Governor Prisker and Brandon

1555
01:25:09.720 --> 01:25:12.439
Johnson a hug for us. I think they need, they

1556
01:25:12.479 --> 01:25:13.760
need some they need a hug.

1557
01:25:13.840 --> 01:25:17.119
I think, yeah, I think you need a hug. If

1558
01:25:17.159 --> 01:25:22.520
they need, they need a lot of special attention. We

1559
01:25:23.479 --> 01:25:27.239
are in Illinois and then we're headed on to Michigan

1560
01:25:27.439 --> 01:25:30.319
and Ohio, and then we've got two staff from Pennsylvania

1561
01:25:30.800 --> 01:25:34.680
all this week and then we will be in Maryland

1562
01:25:34.720 --> 01:25:36.960
next week. In Washington, d C. And of course we

1563
01:25:37.000 --> 01:25:40.119
are on the only Citizens Vote bus tour and we

1564
01:25:40.159 --> 01:25:42.800
are working to get the Save Act passed and we

1565
01:25:42.880 --> 01:25:46.560
want Congress to pass it this month in September, before

1566
01:25:46.640 --> 01:25:49.680
the new fiscal year begins for the United States government.

1567
01:25:50.119 --> 01:25:52.279
You see, Trump knew you were coming to DC one

1568
01:25:52.399 --> 01:25:55.279
to make sure it was crime free. It's all ready

1569
01:25:55.319 --> 01:25:59.560
for you and everything. I mean, what success that this

1570
01:25:59.640 --> 01:26:03.800
president and has had in taking on these major issues

1571
01:26:03.800 --> 01:26:07.079
that people are concerned about, and of course also still

1572
01:26:07.159 --> 01:26:10.439
concerned and this is why the bus door is. Citizens

1573
01:26:10.479 --> 01:26:12.159
want to make sure that their vote counts.

1574
01:26:12.239 --> 01:26:17.000
Jenny Beth, Well, that is exactly right. They want to

1575
01:26:17.000 --> 01:26:20.239
make sure they're vote counts and that it's only American

1576
01:26:20.279 --> 01:26:24.840
citizens voting in American elections for president, Senate, and Congress.

1577
01:26:24.920 --> 01:26:28.159
It's pretty common sense. Eighty seven percent of Americans agree

1578
01:26:28.199 --> 01:26:32.439
with us on this. We've had protesters and Huckler's and

1579
01:26:33.279 --> 01:26:38.239
the event in Wisconsin. We were at a lovely sports

1580
01:26:38.279 --> 01:26:41.279
bar and one of the some of the regular customers

1581
01:26:41.520 --> 01:26:43.920
happened to be there even though it was closed to

1582
01:26:44.000 --> 01:26:47.520
the public. They were Democrats, disagreed with almost everything. But

1583
01:26:47.560 --> 01:26:49.359
it was like, well, I'm sure you agree. You only

1584
01:26:49.399 --> 01:26:53.520
want American citizens voting in American elections, and they said, well, yeah,

1585
01:26:53.600 --> 01:26:56.800
of course we want that. That's kind of the point.

1586
01:26:56.960 --> 01:26:59.640
And they went off complaining about something else, and I said,

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that's what I'm here to talk about. I'm here to

1588
01:27:01.359 --> 01:27:04.199
talk about this. Let's get this done. We can agree

1589
01:27:04.279 --> 01:27:08.439
on this, and I think that that that's one of

1590
01:27:08.439 --> 01:27:12.039
the things that's so important for people to understand. We

1591
01:27:12.079 --> 01:27:16.640
can disagree as Americans on various issues, but when we

1592
01:27:16.720 --> 01:27:21.319
agree on something so overwhelmingly conforas needs to act and

1593
01:27:21.399 --> 01:27:24.720
to take into account what the American citizenry wants, and

1594
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in this case, we want to require proof of citizenship

1595
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to register to vote.

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You know, Jenny Beth, and I hope people are hearing

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what you're saying, because this is kind of a tutorial here,

1598
01:27:36.800 --> 01:27:39.000
and that is that you point out the things that

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we can agree on. And I think, hey, look at

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01:27:41.880 --> 01:27:45.319
good for those Democrats that weren't so ideologically fixed and

1601
01:27:45.319 --> 01:27:47.640
filled with hate, because there's some running around that no

1602
01:27:47.720 --> 01:27:51.520
matter what, they're going to be disagreeable, and because they're

1603
01:27:51.640 --> 01:27:58.000
just so I don't know, so confused and brainwashed that

1604
01:27:58.039 --> 01:28:02.159
they can't agree with common sense because you know, you're

1605
01:28:02.199 --> 01:28:04.159
on the other side, and there's no way that we

1606
01:28:04.199 --> 01:28:07.720
can agree, right because if we agree, that means we

1607
01:28:07.840 --> 01:28:10.600
might come to a solution that could be bipartisan, which

1608
01:28:11.159 --> 01:28:12.640
isn't that what we all want? Right?

1609
01:28:14.199 --> 01:28:14.399
Right?

1610
01:28:14.720 --> 01:28:18.680
That is right? And I just really think that that's

1611
01:28:18.720 --> 01:28:22.239
one of the most important things. Well, the most important

1612
01:28:22.239 --> 01:28:24.520
thing about why we're doing this is because we ultimately

1613
01:28:24.520 --> 01:28:27.439
want to achieve our goal. But when we were planning

1614
01:28:27.479 --> 01:28:30.159
this tour, I just kept going, you know, this is

1615
01:28:30.199 --> 01:28:34.159
something that with all of the protests against President Trump

1616
01:28:34.199 --> 01:28:37.439
and the division in our country over the last many years,

1617
01:28:37.880 --> 01:28:39.680
this is something that I hope that we can do

1618
01:28:39.720 --> 01:28:42.920
where we're we're not just making people angry when they

1619
01:28:42.960 --> 01:28:44.960
see us. They see us and go oh well. I

1620
01:28:45.000 --> 01:28:48.600
do agree with that, and sometimes it's important for us

1621
01:28:48.600 --> 01:28:52.039
as a country to remember we are the United Seats

1622
01:28:52.079 --> 01:28:56.880
of America and together, united we will continue to stand,

1623
01:28:57.000 --> 01:28:58.359
but divided we will fall.

1624
01:28:58.880 --> 01:29:02.479
Without a doubt. Thing is again, you know, the Democrats,

1625
01:29:02.640 --> 01:29:05.279
they've done an effective job, you know, with their core

1626
01:29:05.399 --> 01:29:10.399
base in turning Donald Trump into a boogeyman. But what

1627
01:29:10.439 --> 01:29:12.680
I say to them is, if not Donald Trump, then

1628
01:29:12.680 --> 01:29:15.520
who I mean? You had eight years of Obama, you

1629
01:29:15.560 --> 01:29:18.640
had four years of Biden, and particularly in the last

1630
01:29:18.720 --> 01:29:21.399
four years. I mean, with all due respect, do you

1631
01:29:21.439 --> 01:29:24.319
think the country was better off under the four years

1632
01:29:24.640 --> 01:29:28.079
of Obama versus what Donald Trump has been doing in

1633
01:29:28.439 --> 01:29:30.039
what six months?

1634
01:29:31.399 --> 01:29:36.159
Yes, I think that if they're intellectually honest, they would

1635
01:29:36.319 --> 01:29:40.359
understand that that things are better off right now than

1636
01:29:40.399 --> 01:29:46.000
they were under Biden. And even people who disagree with us,

1637
01:29:46.079 --> 01:29:50.439
or they acknowledged that there was too much illegal immigration

1638
01:29:50.560 --> 01:29:54.640
in the last four years. So even most Americans agree

1639
01:29:54.680 --> 01:29:58.399
on that. So I think that sometimes that it's important

1640
01:29:58.439 --> 01:30:02.000
for people to just step back, setify the personalities, and

1641
01:30:02.039 --> 01:30:04.800
think about the issues. Do you agree on the issue,

1642
01:30:04.840 --> 01:30:07.600
and if still, let's work to solve the problem with

1643
01:30:07.760 --> 01:30:09.640
the solution we agree on.

1644
01:30:10.520 --> 01:30:13.359
As you're traveling across the country and talking to people,

1645
01:30:13.640 --> 01:30:16.319
you know, speaking of issues and being able to communicate this,

1646
01:30:16.720 --> 01:30:20.159
are you sensing that people, you know, because things politically

1647
01:30:20.239 --> 01:30:23.359
sometimes takes a while, you know, because you know, here

1648
01:30:23.399 --> 01:30:25.199
we have the big beautiful bill, you know, all these

1649
01:30:25.239 --> 01:30:28.039
positive things. We see it as what Trump has done

1650
01:30:28.199 --> 01:30:33.039
on behalf of our country, trade policies, the border under control,

1651
01:30:33.439 --> 01:30:37.039
all these great positive things. But there's many Americans who

1652
01:30:37.079 --> 01:30:41.239
still believe that, you know, that's not enough. That you know,

1653
01:30:41.279 --> 01:30:43.920
we're not seeing it. We're not seeing low prices even

1654
01:30:43.960 --> 01:30:46.600
though I mean you're on the road. I mean gas

1655
01:30:46.640 --> 01:30:51.640
prices you know, compared to last labor day, you know,

1656
01:30:51.680 --> 01:30:53.920
a bit lower, I think, what ten to fifteen percent

1657
01:30:53.960 --> 01:30:54.680
then last time?

1658
01:30:54.760 --> 01:30:59.760
Right, Well, yes, gas prices are lower, and I understand

1659
01:30:59.760 --> 01:31:04.039
the people feel like maybe they're not seeing enough as

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01:31:04.119 --> 01:31:06.720
quickly as they want. But it took four years to

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01:31:06.720 --> 01:31:08.439
get us where we were, and it's going to take

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more than six months to get it out of it.

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01:31:11.319 --> 01:31:13.680
And it's also going to take more than two months

1664
01:31:13.720 --> 01:31:16.960
from when the bill passed into law for us to

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01:31:17.000 --> 01:31:19.680
see the all of the effects from it. So gas

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01:31:19.720 --> 01:31:23.720
prices are lower, things are improving in the economy, and

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01:31:23.800 --> 01:31:26.760
President Trump is right, the Fed really does need to

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01:31:26.800 --> 01:31:31.159
lower the interest rates. I think that when that eventually happens,

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and I believe it will happens, everyone is going to

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see a huge improvement because you'll feel like you can

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sell your house again, or you can get a card

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at a rate you can afford.

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You see, most people don't understand that nuance, Jenny Beth.

1674
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They don't understand that really it's so backed up. It's

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01:31:49.920 --> 01:31:52.760
like we need rotor Ruter to come in and kind

1676
01:31:52.800 --> 01:31:56.399
of clean that pipeline up. And the Fed. You're exactly right,

1677
01:31:56.439 --> 01:31:59.880
the Fed is not helping us again for resistance. And

1678
01:32:00.119 --> 01:32:03.800
it does seem political because for Joe Biden, they were

1679
01:32:03.800 --> 01:32:07.399
bending over backwards. I mean, we're going into election fifty

1680
01:32:07.479 --> 01:32:11.760
basis points, you know, reduction, and I mean it's just

1681
01:32:12.199 --> 01:32:16.600
on and on what Jerome pal did for the support

1682
01:32:16.600 --> 01:32:19.600
of Joe Biden, and forget about support of Donald Trump.

1683
01:32:19.680 --> 01:32:22.359
It's just the country. You know, we are in a

1684
01:32:22.399 --> 01:32:26.079
tough situation. People cannot sell their houses. If they don't

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01:32:26.079 --> 01:32:29.439
sell their houses, then this kind kind of makes the

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01:32:29.760 --> 01:32:32.520
you know, the wheels on the bus kind of jam

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up and come to a screeching halt.

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Do they not, Well, it does because let's see, you

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want to get a better job. There's a better job

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01:32:40.760 --> 01:32:44.279
opportunity somewhere else in the country, and maybe you can

1691
01:32:44.319 --> 01:32:46.800
get a raise of ten or twenty percent. Well, if

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01:32:46.840 --> 01:32:50.920
you're underwater in your house by ten twenty fifty thousand dollars,

1693
01:32:51.199 --> 01:32:54.239
you can't sell, you can't move, so you can't go

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01:32:54.319 --> 01:32:58.199
take advantage of that new opportunity because you're not able

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01:32:58.239 --> 01:33:01.279
to sell right now. And there are people are underwater.

1696
01:33:01.359 --> 01:33:03.680
There are people, of course who are not, but there

1697
01:33:03.680 --> 01:33:06.239
are also people who who would like to be able

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01:33:06.239 --> 01:33:09.640
to refinance and have a lower interest rate because they

1699
01:33:09.680 --> 01:33:14.000
are refinancing. So there are a lot of factors that

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01:33:14.159 --> 01:33:20.399
play with this. But the economy, it is when the

1701
01:33:20.439 --> 01:33:24.039
government is involved, and the government is involved in our economy,

1702
01:33:24.399 --> 01:33:28.079
it becomes it is a bit complicated and it takes

1703
01:33:28.119 --> 01:33:30.640
a little bit of time for things to improve. But

1704
01:33:30.920 --> 01:33:33.920
the egg prices are down, gas prices are down, there

1705
01:33:34.000 --> 01:33:39.680
is more opportunity, more Americans are working. There are more

1706
01:33:39.840 --> 01:33:46.079
job opportunities for Americans. Are in part because the illegal

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01:33:46.680 --> 01:33:50.399
aliens who are here are deporting or self deporting, and

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01:33:51.239 --> 01:33:54.279
so that is helping with job opportunities for Americans. So

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01:33:54.319 --> 01:33:56.800
there's a lot of good things going on and I

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01:33:56.800 --> 01:33:59.680
think it will continue to improve in the coming weeks

1711
01:33:59.680 --> 01:34:00.239
and months.

1712
01:34:00.640 --> 01:34:03.279
Well, Jenny Beth, this past week you spoke with was

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01:34:03.319 --> 01:34:06.720
Cleida Mitchell, the founder and chair of the Election Integrity

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01:34:06.760 --> 01:34:08.800
that we're talking about the Save Act. We got about

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01:34:08.840 --> 01:34:10.479
a minute left. I'm going to let you summarize that

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01:34:10.520 --> 01:34:12.680
because I thought you brought some and she did as

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01:34:12.720 --> 01:34:15.600
well as some critical points to why the Save Act

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01:34:15.680 --> 01:34:19.079
is so critical to ensuring a return to free and

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01:34:19.079 --> 01:34:19.880
fair elections.

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01:34:21.159 --> 01:34:24.840
Well, it's very important that we have only American citizens voting,

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01:34:25.000 --> 01:34:29.039
and the seat of Arizona they require proof of citizenship

1722
01:34:29.079 --> 01:34:31.520
to register to vote. There was a Supreme Court case

1723
01:34:31.880 --> 01:34:34.680
and because of that Supreme Court case, if you show

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01:34:34.720 --> 01:34:37.560
proof of citizenship, you get a full ballot in Arizona.

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01:34:37.640 --> 01:34:41.119
If you don't. You still can vote for president, Senate,

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01:34:41.159 --> 01:34:43.640
and Congress, and we're just trying to clear up the

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01:34:43.720 --> 01:34:47.159
loophole that exists in the motor voter law. And the

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01:34:47.239 --> 01:34:50.439
Supreme Court ruled that they had to adhere to the

1729
01:34:50.479 --> 01:34:53.600
motor voter law and Congress should clean it up if

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01:34:53.600 --> 01:34:56.920
they meant to require proof of citizenship. So that's what

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we're working on. People can go to Demand Only Citizens

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Vote dot com. Demand only Citizens Vote dot com to

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sign our petitions. See us on the bus tour and

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join us next Wednesday, September tenth in Washington, DC.

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Okay, my friends, safe travels out there. Enjoy Illinois and

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it's off to Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and before you know it,

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you'll be in Washington, d C. So safe travels.

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Jenny Beth Martin, thank you so much.

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Good morning, welcome back. Good to have you with us.

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Bill Martinez here along with Jeremy Beck, the co president

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of Numbers USA. Hey, Jeremy, good morning to you.

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Hey, good morning to you.

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Well we made it to the other side of Labor Day.

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And you know, some of us didn't labor, some of

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us still labored. You know, it's just kind of one

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of those interesting conundrums. It's called labor Day, but we're

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not supposed to be laboring.

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Yes, for some people, the work doesn't stop. That's that's

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for sure. And I think you're one of those people.

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Bill.

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01:39:58.479 --> 01:40:00.399
Yeah, we just keep on going. You know, it's just

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you know, but it's fun. I mean it. There was

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a little bit of calm, so I did. I did

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01:40:05.600 --> 01:40:08.239
enjoy that. But you know, hey, look at but here

1833
01:40:08.239 --> 01:40:11.039
we are rocking and rolling and doing another day. And

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01:40:11.319 --> 01:40:13.680
glad you're here to tell us that. You know, things

1835
01:40:13.720 --> 01:40:16.159
are getting back to normal. We got our kids going

1836
01:40:16.199 --> 01:40:19.159
back to school. Uh, we got that. We got that

1837
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happening and I say normal, Maybe that's an extended term

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when we're talking about Congress returning returning to d C,

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because they're not gonna you know, they're gonna be surprising.

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Oh my goodness, it's safe here in d C.

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01:40:34.840 --> 01:40:36.279
Yeah, well, you know it's it's Yeah.

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I spend some time in Union Station and so see

1843
01:40:39.800 --> 01:40:41.079
some of those changes down there.

1844
01:40:41.119 --> 01:40:44.119
For sure. Some colleagues as well.

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01:40:44.600 --> 01:40:46.600
Yeah, I think things are Let's let's hope that it's

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a pleasant and productive fall for everybody in the nation's capital.

1847
01:40:51.119 --> 01:40:52.960
You know, Jeremy, a lot of people are saying that

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they noticed the difference in crowd Muriel Bowser said, you know,

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crime down eighty five percent. I mean, are you kidding me?

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01:40:59.359 --> 01:41:01.920
I mean, what's city in this country wouldn't want a

1851
01:41:01.920 --> 01:41:03.720
reduction in crime by eighty percent?

1852
01:41:04.520 --> 01:41:05.520
Well, and what I.

1853
01:41:05.399 --> 01:41:08.720
Find interesting about this is that it's been widely reported

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01:41:08.880 --> 01:41:12.840
and to some consternation of some reporters, that a lot

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01:41:12.840 --> 01:41:17.439
of the enforcement is immigration enforcement, and it's it's you

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take the broken windows theory of crime and say, look,

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you crack.

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Down on the low hanging fruit.

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01:41:23.920 --> 01:41:24.880
You have, you.

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Fixed the broken windows, You light the streets, you address

1861
01:41:30.720 --> 01:41:33.720
the turnstile jumpers, et cetera. And immigration is one of

1862
01:41:33.760 --> 01:41:37.680
those things. People who are here illegally, they are not

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01:41:37.760 --> 01:41:43.279
necessarily all predisposed to additional crimes, but it's a sign

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of the legal system breaking down. And when you enforce

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the law, it produces results across the board. So you're

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01:41:50.199 --> 01:41:52.520
and you are seeing a lot of truly bad actors

1867
01:41:52.520 --> 01:41:54.760
getting picked up as well, and that's always good. And

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what most people all, you know, most Americans and including

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most people in risk, most people in the press, say

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that they do support deporting at least the bare minimum

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criminal elements in our society. And they're definitely getting picked

1872
01:42:07.760 --> 01:42:09.840
up as part of this broader enforcement.

1873
01:42:09.399 --> 01:42:11.239
As well well. And the other thing, like you say

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01:42:11.439 --> 01:42:15.359
in regard to enforcement, I mean, if you get arrested,

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01:42:15.520 --> 01:42:17.840
spend some time in jail, you know, think about what

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01:42:17.880 --> 01:42:20.760
you've done. You know, there should be consequences. This free

1877
01:42:20.760 --> 01:42:24.760
bail and in and out like a bullfighter, you know,

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just saying waving the red cape in front of the

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bull and going olay and let them go back out

1880
01:42:29.600 --> 01:42:33.000
to do more damage and destruction. It's just absurd. I mean,

1881
01:42:33.680 --> 01:42:36.760
this defies common sense. I mean, how many more years

1882
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of this kind of idiocy. Do we have to put

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up with and endangering our American citizens who are being

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01:42:42.359 --> 01:42:46.000
killed at the hands of illegal immigrants. And I say that,

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01:42:46.079 --> 01:42:48.359
and so oh, well, they're not all being killed, but

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too many are.

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Well, too many are, that's for sure.

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The one of the many tragedies of crimes committed by

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people who are here illegally is that if we had

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secured our immigration system, then those crimes wouldn't have happened,

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and those those victims wouldn't have become victims. And your

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point about the jail time and the incarceration, detention and

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01:43:08.760 --> 01:43:11.359
all that is is a good one, particularly for what

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we're seeing in the over the past eight months with

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you know, maybe one hundred and eighty thousand, two hundred

1896
01:43:16.920 --> 01:43:19.680
thousand people who have been detained and deported.

1897
01:43:20.680 --> 01:43:21.640
That's a lot of people.

1898
01:43:21.720 --> 01:43:24.600
It's not the record yet, although the Trump administration is

1899
01:43:24.640 --> 01:43:28.720
on pace to break the record for interior deportations at

1900
01:43:28.399 --> 01:43:31.680
somewhere around two hundred and forty thousand that occurred back

1901
01:43:31.680 --> 01:43:33.840
in two thousand and nine, I think it was, But

1902
01:43:34.439 --> 01:43:37.239
look at the number of people who have only by

1903
01:43:37.319 --> 01:43:42.800
virtue of seeing and hearing reports about these arrests, detentions,

1904
01:43:42.840 --> 01:43:46.359
and deportations. They're saying, I don't want that. I don't

1905
01:43:46.359 --> 01:43:48.119
want to be detained. I don't want to be arrested.

1906
01:43:48.119 --> 01:43:50.159
I don't want to be on a YouTube video or

1907
01:43:50.479 --> 01:43:52.920
have a you know, a news reporter you know, posting

1908
01:43:52.960 --> 01:43:56.600
their video of me getting you know, arrested on the street.

1909
01:43:56.760 --> 01:43:58.159
I'm going to go home on my own.

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01:43:59.000 --> 01:44:01.399
People are making those decisions, and that is that is

1911
01:44:01.479 --> 01:44:04.640
really ultimately what you want to see. It's good to

1912
01:44:04.680 --> 01:44:07.560
see the laws being enforced in a you know, in

1913
01:44:07.560 --> 01:44:09.880
in the sense of picking people up and detaining them,

1914
01:44:10.039 --> 01:44:11.800
but the real point of doing that, it's the same

1915
01:44:11.840 --> 01:44:14.239
thing as speeding tickets or anything else. Right, You need

1916
01:44:14.279 --> 01:44:16.479
to you need to pull enough people over so that

1917
01:44:16.520 --> 01:44:19.560
they see that happening they think maybe maybe I'm not

1918
01:44:19.600 --> 01:44:21.800
going to drive as recklessly as much, you know as

1919
01:44:21.840 --> 01:44:23.920
I did when I was you know, sixteen or something

1920
01:44:23.960 --> 01:44:24.279
like that.

1921
01:44:24.520 --> 01:44:27.000
Slow it down, and especially for the sixteen year olds.

1922
01:44:26.840 --> 01:44:29.439
Right well, you know we're talking about we're yeah, we're

1923
01:44:29.439 --> 01:44:33.399
talking about our kids. You know, if we don't exercise

1924
01:44:34.920 --> 01:44:38.640
you know, consequences with our kids. Then you know, there's

1925
01:44:38.680 --> 01:44:41.239
a natural law this says consequences are going to come.

1926
01:44:41.760 --> 01:44:44.039
It's a matter of who's going to pay those consequences

1927
01:44:44.039 --> 01:44:47.319
in a household, If little billy who's causing the problems,

1928
01:44:47.319 --> 01:44:50.920
that needs consequences and you amiliate it, then everybody else

1929
01:44:50.960 --> 01:44:54.680
in the household somehow carries the weight of the consequence.

1930
01:44:55.279 --> 01:44:59.920
And and and so now take that concept and apply

1931
01:45:00.199 --> 01:45:02.319
to a society. And this is what's been going on.

1932
01:45:02.680 --> 01:45:04.560
And I think people are waking up and going, wait

1933
01:45:04.600 --> 01:45:07.600
a minute, why am I paying for this knucklehead going

1934
01:45:07.640 --> 01:45:10.359
in and busting in a window taking one thousand dollars

1935
01:45:10.640 --> 01:45:14.399
worth of product with no consequence whatsoever. And it's okay.

1936
01:45:14.399 --> 01:45:16.399
And then meanwhile, the store that I used to go

1937
01:45:16.479 --> 01:45:19.119
to was very convenient for me has now closed left

1938
01:45:19.159 --> 01:45:22.119
the building. My daughter part time had a part time

1939
01:45:22.199 --> 01:45:24.039
job there. I guess what, she doesn't have part time

1940
01:45:24.119 --> 01:45:28.960
job anymore. Well, this is what happens. Consequences occur, okay,

1941
01:45:29.239 --> 01:45:31.800
And you may as unintended as you may hope and

1942
01:45:31.840 --> 01:45:34.479
think they're not, they do. It's a reality. It's it's

1943
01:45:35.039 --> 01:45:37.920
the law of nature. So the question is who's going

1944
01:45:38.000 --> 01:45:39.479
to pay those consequences? Right?

1945
01:45:40.119 --> 01:45:41.159
Yeah, that is right.

1946
01:45:41.199 --> 01:45:43.359
And in some sense, this is this, this whole operation

1947
01:45:43.520 --> 01:45:47.640
is calling a giant bluff, that bluff being that, hey,

1948
01:45:47.920 --> 01:45:50.479
immigration laws, they're not really that big of a deal

1949
01:45:50.920 --> 01:45:51.880
illegal immigration.

1950
01:45:52.119 --> 01:45:53.079
Who's it really hurting?

1951
01:45:53.279 --> 01:45:55.439
Aren't they mostly just people who want to come here

1952
01:45:55.479 --> 01:45:58.359
and live a better life, And don't they really love

1953
01:45:58.399 --> 01:45:59.479
America and all those things.

1954
01:45:59.640 --> 01:46:01.640
Some of the those things may even be true.

1955
01:46:01.680 --> 01:46:03.600
All of those things may be true in some cases,

1956
01:46:03.800 --> 01:46:06.760
but illegal immigration is not a victimless crime, even if

1957
01:46:06.760 --> 01:46:09.359
you're not even if you're not banging in windows and

1958
01:46:09.439 --> 01:46:12.960
you know, looting the store. You know, if you're working illegally,

1959
01:46:13.000 --> 01:46:14.680
you're stealing somebody's job.

1960
01:46:15.560 --> 01:46:15.920
You are.

1961
01:46:16.520 --> 01:46:18.800
If you're working illegally on the books, as most people

1962
01:46:18.840 --> 01:46:22.399
who work illegally are, you've probably stolen somebody's identity.

1963
01:46:22.920 --> 01:46:25.319
These have real world consequences.

1964
01:46:25.359 --> 01:46:29.600
And we get this kind of narrative out of legacy

1965
01:46:29.640 --> 01:46:32.760
media and other outlets that they kind of constantly trying

1966
01:46:32.800 --> 01:46:36.760
to guilt us for saying, wait, don't we have don't

1967
01:46:36.760 --> 01:46:39.720
we have rules? Don't we have boundaries? Haven't we set

1968
01:46:39.760 --> 01:46:43.479
limits on things? And they're trying to tell us that no, no, no,

1969
01:46:43.520 --> 01:46:45.720
those aren't those don't really matter? Well, yeah they do,

1970
01:46:45.960 --> 01:46:48.319
and we're seeing right now what we're seeing by most

1971
01:46:48.359 --> 01:46:51.640
people hundreds of thousands, over a million people leaving on

1972
01:46:51.680 --> 01:46:54.960
their own who are here illegally. That's that's a collective

1973
01:46:55.000 --> 01:46:58.119
effort of people saying, uh, I mean, America, what are

1974
01:46:58.119 --> 01:47:00.479
you going to do? It seems like they actually care

1975
01:47:00.520 --> 01:47:03.000
about their laws. Now, I guess I'm going to go home.

1976
01:47:03.359 --> 01:47:06.960
That's that's rational, that's reasonable, and that's the way that

1977
01:47:07.000 --> 01:47:07.920
we would want it to be.

1978
01:47:08.119 --> 01:47:09.920
We want the world to get out, word to get

1979
01:47:09.920 --> 01:47:10.760
out around the world.

1980
01:47:11.079 --> 01:47:13.920
Don't don't break the rules here. You know, we're gonna

1981
01:47:13.920 --> 01:47:15.840
take We're going to take it seriously. It's not it's

1982
01:47:15.880 --> 01:47:18.720
not mean spirited or it doesn't need to be heavy handed.

1983
01:47:18.920 --> 01:47:20.880
But if you do break the rules, there are going

1984
01:47:20.920 --> 01:47:23.760
to be consequences, and we would rather those consequences fall

1985
01:47:23.800 --> 01:47:26.479
on the people who are breaking the rules than then

1986
01:47:26.520 --> 01:47:29.680
on the American people who are victimized by the rule breakers.

1987
01:47:30.079 --> 01:47:34.000
What a novel concept, Hi, Jeremy's amazing, you know, it's amazing.

1988
01:47:34.359 --> 01:47:37.159
The thing the statements that you just made that come

1989
01:47:37.199 --> 01:47:39.039
out of the mouths of some of these people. I'll

1990
01:47:39.079 --> 01:47:40.800
guarantee you their job's not affected.

1991
01:47:41.960 --> 01:47:44.479
Often often that is a case, of course. It's what

1992
01:47:44.720 --> 01:47:48.359
Peggy Newnon describes as the protected class. Yes, you know,

1993
01:47:48.439 --> 01:47:50.680
you don't you don't notice it or not even just

1994
01:47:50.680 --> 01:47:52.920
their jobs aren't affected, but they may benefit from it.

1995
01:47:52.920 --> 01:47:55.600
They like their cheap nanny who's here off the books.

1996
01:47:55.600 --> 01:47:59.159
They consider her part of the family, right, Oh, yeah, she's.

1997
01:47:59.000 --> 01:48:01.000
Part of them's part of the fam.

1998
01:48:01.199 --> 01:48:02.359
She's part of the family.

1999
01:48:02.680 --> 01:48:05.640
It makes tortillas for us, yes, exactly.

2000
01:48:05.640 --> 01:48:08.640
She's so grateful to be working eleven hour days for

2001
01:48:08.760 --> 01:48:10.600
eight dollars an hour or whatever it is.

2002
01:48:10.680 --> 01:48:13.800
You know, that kind of that kind of thing. It's uh,

2003
01:48:13.880 --> 01:48:16.039
it's very paternalistic. Uh.

2004
01:48:16.079 --> 01:48:19.000
And of course if if they are cheap labor, that

2005
01:48:19.119 --> 01:48:20.560
is what it is. And it doesn't mean you don't

2006
01:48:20.600 --> 01:48:22.560
like the person, but you like them in part because

2007
01:48:22.600 --> 01:48:24.640
they're so cheap. I love I love my I love

2008
01:48:24.680 --> 01:48:27.439
my landscaper, I love the people. Now my kid doesn't

2009
01:48:27.439 --> 01:48:29.159
have to mow the lawn. Now I don't have to

2010
01:48:29.159 --> 01:48:31.079
mow the lawn, and so you get you know, now

2011
01:48:31.119 --> 01:48:32.600
I can do my important work.

2012
01:48:32.760 --> 01:48:33.560
That kind of thing.

2013
01:48:34.079 --> 01:48:37.560
Uh, yeah, it's again, it's it's it's calling the bluff

2014
01:48:37.560 --> 01:48:38.479
on some of those things.

2015
01:48:39.000 --> 01:48:40.680
Well they are thing too, and you kind of touched

2016
01:48:40.720 --> 01:48:43.359
on this, but I want to bring this out front,

2017
01:48:43.399 --> 01:48:46.359
and that is that wages are being suppressed. And so

2018
01:48:46.600 --> 01:48:50.760
if you suppress wages of the citizenry, then now we

2019
01:48:50.800 --> 01:48:54.000
start running into affordability issues. And that's what we're hearing

2020
01:48:54.000 --> 01:48:56.399
a lot out of Mom Donnie in New York. It's

2021
01:48:56.439 --> 01:48:59.560
affordability issues others that are going on. I mean, I

2022
01:48:59.600 --> 01:49:02.960
have a so in California right now, and he's working

2023
01:49:03.000 --> 01:49:06.600
two jobs and he still can barely make it. A

2024
01:49:06.600 --> 01:49:08.399
lot of these kids, the only way that they can

2025
01:49:08.479 --> 01:49:10.720
live is they got to, you know, they got to

2026
01:49:10.920 --> 01:49:13.880
you know, camp together, you know, share rent, you know,

2027
01:49:13.960 --> 01:49:17.680
four or five people a one bedroom apartment and try

2028
01:49:17.720 --> 01:49:20.560
to make that work because it's just so unaffordable. I mean,

2029
01:49:20.680 --> 01:49:22.319
I was talking with Liz Peak the other day in

2030
01:49:22.319 --> 01:49:25.520
New York. She said, a one bedroom apartment now is

2031
01:49:25.560 --> 01:49:26.760
five thousand dollars a month.

2032
01:49:27.720 --> 01:49:31.000
How and do you think do you think that normalizing?

2033
01:49:31.079 --> 01:49:33.439
Because what you're describing is the way that you know

2034
01:49:34.000 --> 01:49:36.119
that a lot of people who are here illegally, that's

2035
01:49:36.159 --> 01:49:38.039
the way that they live and work because they don't

2036
01:49:38.039 --> 01:49:40.600
make enough money. They have to crowd into apartments that

2037
01:49:40.640 --> 01:49:43.159
aren't meant for that aren't meant for fifteen people they're

2038
01:49:43.199 --> 01:49:45.279
meant for maybe a family of three or a family

2039
01:49:45.319 --> 01:49:47.960
of four, and got fifteen people living in there. And

2040
01:49:48.039 --> 01:49:51.159
of course all of this extra it's not just illegal immigration,

2041
01:49:51.279 --> 01:49:54.680
it's immigration at unsustainable levels, two high levels.

2042
01:49:54.880 --> 01:49:55.960
You think, do you.

2043
01:49:55.920 --> 01:49:58.479
Think over a million adding over a million people here

2044
01:49:58.560 --> 01:50:00.760
legally might have an impact on that housing market?

2045
01:50:00.920 --> 01:50:01.880
Yeah, of course it does.

2046
01:50:02.680 --> 01:50:06.760
And so but we've normalized this with the illegal community,

2047
01:50:07.119 --> 01:50:11.079
and now it's becoming normalized in American citizens and legal

2048
01:50:11.119 --> 01:50:13.720
immigrants as well. Wouldn't it be better to have a

2049
01:50:13.760 --> 01:50:16.920
tighter labor market where we can see people being paid

2050
01:50:17.159 --> 01:50:19.880
American wages by American wages? I mean, if it's an

2051
01:50:19.880 --> 01:50:23.000
American job, shouldn't you be able to live in American.

2052
01:50:22.800 --> 01:50:23.720
Quality of life?

2053
01:50:23.760 --> 01:50:25.520
And I'm not talking about high on the hill. It

2054
01:50:25.560 --> 01:50:28.720
doesn't necessarily mean everybody has to be rich. But if

2055
01:50:28.760 --> 01:50:31.640
it's a job that's worthy of being in America, shouldn't

2056
01:50:31.680 --> 01:50:34.319
you be paying a person enough so that they can

2057
01:50:34.359 --> 01:50:38.800
live self sufficient lives of dignity? Exactmigration is a major

2058
01:50:38.840 --> 01:50:39.319
part of that.

2059
01:50:39.760 --> 01:50:42.640
Well, Jeremy thirty seconds left, sorry for the short amount

2060
01:50:42.680 --> 01:50:46.880
of time. HR two. Does it or doesn't it? Yeah?

2061
01:50:46.920 --> 01:50:49.000
Exactly, Well, that Congress is back and they're going to

2062
01:50:49.039 --> 01:50:51.520
be looking at things. But HR two it hasn't popped

2063
01:50:51.560 --> 01:50:53.439
up yet. They were supposed to bring it back before

2064
01:50:53.479 --> 01:50:56.520
their recess, and now they're back beyond the watch out

2065
01:50:56.520 --> 01:50:58.279
to see because this is a real canary in the

2066
01:50:58.319 --> 01:50:58.920
coal mine.

2067
01:50:59.119 --> 01:51:01.279
Are we going to get around here a little bit?

2068
01:51:02.239 --> 01:51:02.439
All?

2069
01:51:02.640 --> 01:51:04.800
As I said before, I think with you and on

2070
01:51:04.840 --> 01:51:07.680
your show, Yeah, the border is closed right now, but

2071
01:51:07.720 --> 01:51:09.000
there's no lock on the gate.

2072
01:51:09.199 --> 01:51:10.640
All those loopholes are still there.

2073
01:51:10.680 --> 01:51:15.119
And the minute there's an administration that doesn't prioritize that

2074
01:51:15.119 --> 01:51:17.279
that gate can get kicked wide open again. We need

2075
01:51:17.319 --> 01:51:19.880
a bill like HR two to close these loopholes. That's

2076
01:51:19.880 --> 01:51:21.520
what we're going to be pushing for this fall.

2077
01:51:21.640 --> 01:51:22.199
Be on the lookout.

2078
01:51:22.920 --> 01:51:25.920
He's the co president numbers us say, Jeremy Beck, Thank you, Jeremy,

2079
01:51:25.920 --> 01:51:26.239
take care.

2080
01:51:26.239 --> 01:51:27.520
I have a great day you too, Bill.

2081
01:51:28.760 --> 01:51:30.600
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