Aug. 29, 2025

The Bill Martinez Show 08 29 25

The Bill Martinez Show 08 29 25
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The Bill Martinez Show 08 29 25
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Are you ready?

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Yeah, Okay, let's do it.

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Bill Martinez Live a program about current events, our culture,

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our values, our politics, and our future.

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And now Bill Martinez.

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Right now, six minutes after top of the AAR. Glad

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you could joined us on Bill Martinez. Hey, you know him,

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Bill Fetterer, the American Minute creator and author of multiple

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top selling books. Mister Bill, how are you doing, buddy?

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Great to be with you, Bill.

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Hey, always good. Happy Labor Day to you.

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Well, happy Labor Day to you. And there's quite a

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bit of history.

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Well, my goodness, is there not? I mean, this is amazing.

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I mean, and it all I mean, as they look

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at it, the matrix of it all is in a sense,

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it's kind of capitalism versus socialism or communism, isn't it right?

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Well, a little background, it's more than picnics and hot dogs.

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At the beginning of America, most people were self employed baker, butchers, carpenters,

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candle makers, and sometimes they would form guilds, but not

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really anything you could call a union. Then you had

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the Industrial Revolution in England. What's that Ireland? What did

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they burn in their fireplaces to keep warm? Peat? And

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what was that? It was mud from the slurries where

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you'd have enough decaying plants that there was enough carbon

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material that they would pull it out of the swamp,

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let it dry out, cut it into blocks and put

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it on a wagon and take it through town, sell

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it and people would burn these blocks. So there was

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very few trees in Ireland. But in England, if you

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let that stuff get buried for centuries, it turns into coal.

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And so in England they had coal mines, but the

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problem was they kept filling up with water, and so

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Scottish inventor James Watt came up with a pump to

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pump water out of coal mines, and it was based

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on steam. Right, you heat up the air and expand

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and pushes the piston up and then you cool the

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air and the piston comes down. And this turned into

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a steam engine that turned into steam railroads, steam boats

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and textile factories.

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How genius, Bill, I mean, how do you come up

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with that kind of idea? I mean, you know when

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you look at the inventors of America and ideas like this,

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it just blows me away, leaves me in awe.

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Yeah, And so now items could be produced cheaply if

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you put wool from a sheep under a microscope. It

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has little barbs on it, and if you pull them together,

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the barbs will catch a hold of each other, and

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the harder you pull it, the tighter it gets them.

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So women would sit there with a pile of wool

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and go through and pull these little threads together and

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then put them on a spinning wheel to pull them

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tighter and tighter, and then put them on a little

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spool and then weave closed. It was very labor intensive,

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but now with a factory you can have these mechanical

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looms that can do it all just instantly, and then

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you have full bolts of cloth. Basically, the industrial revolution

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freed up women from all these menial tasks and you

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could have steel, so you could pipe water into a

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house instead of going to a well, and you could

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have a washing machine. And so the British.

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Began and this happened really and I'm sorry to interrupt you,

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but again I want people to follow this in such

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a way that I mean, this was this didn't take

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hundreds of years. I mean when the Industrial Revolution was happening,

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I mean you had this incredible amount of invention and

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inertia that was happening in a short period of time,

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wasn't it.

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Yeah, So seventeen sixty is when Isaacquad invented the steam pump.

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And then the British began to export these machine made

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goods around to their colonies, but they would not let

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factories be built in the colonies because they wanted the

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business and they did. And so when America broke from Britain,

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the second bill George Washington signed into law was a

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tariff bill pushing tariffs. Well, the George Washington push tariffs.

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Why it made the European goods more expensive intentionally that

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you could afford to build factories in America. For the

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first factory was a Cotting cotton spinning mill in pow Tucket,

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Rhode Island, Samuel Slater in seventeen ninety And then you

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had shoe cobblers or shoemakers had developed a union in

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Philadelphia seventeen ninety four. But the tariff taxes on the

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imports was the main source of income for the federal government.

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There was no income tax.

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Yet.

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The problem was most of the factories were in the

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North and the South was agricultural, so the South now

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had to buy more expensive stuff from Europe. Because of

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the tariffs or more expensive stuff from the northern factories,

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whose animosity led up to the Civil War. And then

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after the war, the North passed lots of tariffs and

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it worked, and we had factories grow enormous, producing glass

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and dishes and farm tools and railroads, and so you

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had the fastest rise in the standard of living in

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human history boom. And then who worked in the factories, well,

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a lot of immigrants. And so you had immigrants from

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Scandinavia and Ireland, England, Italy, Greece, Poles, Russian Jews, and Germans.

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Grover Cleveland eighteen eighty six dedicates the Statue of liberty

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to welcome immigrants. Immigrants were a net plus.

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What do I mean?

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There was no welfare programs, There was nothing for them

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to sign up for. They were just cheap labor. There

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were no minimum wages yet, so anybody could start a business.

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You'd go down hire somebody and they would learn a

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language and learn a skill, and the next generation would

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start their own business, and they'd go down to the

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port and hire the next wave of immigrants.

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And bill these immigrants came in. They wanted to assimilate right.

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They looked at coming to America, as you know, the

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Gilded Age, which should ended up becoming. I mean, this

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was just a grand opportunity for them, and they were

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all in. They really appreciated being able to have this opportunity.

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Yeah, there was a German sociologist, Max Weber. He wrote

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a book The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism,

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and he talked about a lot of these immigrants came

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from these different countries where it was a social stigma

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to receive a handout. And if there was a welfare

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program in America, it was the extended family members and

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the churches, right, And so you had these immigrants coming over.

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But then you had some immigrants coming from Germany infected

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with the ideas of Karl Marx. What's that all about?

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You had in America, somebody could get an idea, innovative,

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work hard, and in one generation become wealthy. In Europe

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you had centuries of wealth of elites passed from generation

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to generation. They lock on it and the common people

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had no upward mobility. And so Karl Marx came up

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with this idea of the class struggle, and he said,

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let's pit the poor against the rich. Let's tear down

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the system, and then let's have a government put in

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place that will redistribute the wealth. And so these immigrants

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coming over from Germany had some of these ideas. Even

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though America's wealthy happened in one lifetime, they came up, well,

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let's take the wealth away. And so they began to

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sew these ideas, and yes, some factories were unsafe. Up

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to in Sinclair wrote the book The Jungle and talked about,

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you know, meat packing plants and all the unsafe conditions.

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And so these the first unionizing organizing flyers were printed

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in German, and so they would lobby for what eight

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hour workday and taxes on the ridge. That was the

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beginning of this. And so let's go to Chicago. A

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guy named Cyrus McCormick invented the mechanical reaper too. Instead

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of you being in the field with your sickle or

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one horse, right, you could have this mechanical reaper. That

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and so Cyrus McCormick was a Presbyterian and he felt

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that his reaper would help fulfill a religious mission to

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feed the world. He was a great guy. Donated ten

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thousand dollars to Dwight Moody to build the Chicago YMCA.

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But then there was an eighteen eighty two and economic

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downturn and fewer orders for these tractors, and you had

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the German immigrants in Chicago organized a protest in May

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of eighteen eighty six, and it turned into the Haymarket riot.

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Protest turning to rust. Somebody threw a dynamite bomb and

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it killed seven police officers for civilians, and so the

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union worker called this their Haymarket Riot. On May first,

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the International Workers date.

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Well, Bill, hang on, we're gonna put a pause on it.

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Got to go to quick break. We've got more from

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were talking about the haymaker riot, right, is that correct?

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Haymarket right? And then we have a railroad strike. And

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this is where it gets interesting. George Pullman had the

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Pullman Railroad Car Company made sleeping cars, right, you can

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go on these long trips. And he said, well, hey,

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you know these workers, if I can build little houses

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near the factory, it'll save them commute time. And then

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I can build little shops there and it'll save them

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time they have him going to a market, and so

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it was a nice one.

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Was was this the origination of the company store the

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Tennessee board saying about okay, all right, yes, And so.

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They would pay the people in script, and so you

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could use this payment to pay your rent, buy stuff

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at the grocery store. The company owned stores, and it

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was a utopian paradise, a workers paradise for about ten years.

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And then what happened. Orders for railroad cars dropped off.

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There was a depression, and so George Pullman, trying to

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keep his company afloat, had to cut wages and off

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workers and they were not happy. And so you had

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a high school dropout named Eugene Debs, and he had

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a job cleaning grease from freight engines and anyway, he

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organizes a railroad workers strike in eighteen ninety four, and

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it spreads, and so workers in twenty seven states begin

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to boycott the Pullman railroad cars and any trains that

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were pulling Pullman railroad cars. And then they started destroying

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railroad cars. They destroyed eighty million dollars worth of railroad cars,

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set them on fire burnt entire train yards is called

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Deb's rebellion. The New York Times July ninth, eighteen ninety

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four called Debs a lawbreaker at large, enemy of the

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human race. The President, Grover Cleveland sends in the National Guard,

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the troops, to twelve thousand of them, to restore order

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to these cities that are being trashed by these people

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doing these strikes. Imagine the president sending an armies to

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restore order. Anyway, We're coming up on a midterm election,

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and the advisor to Grover Cleveland is the Democrat, is

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Francis Lynn Stetson, and he warned that they're about to lose.

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dark night. Unless a return of commercial prosperity released popular

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discontent with what they believe is democratic incompetence to make laws.

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The Democrats are going to get their clock cleaned. Anyway,

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So Grover Cleveland thought he would appease the workers by

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giving them a day off, a Labor Day.

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Now.

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The workers wanted it to be on May first, to

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celebrate the bloody Haymarket riot that killed those police officers

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with that dynamite bomb and the International Workers Day, but

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Grover Cleveland said, no, we're not going to encourage that.

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He makes Labor Day the first Monday in September.

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Well, what happened.

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But what a great eye idea, though, Bill. The easy

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political thing would have been, okay, let's just go and associate.

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But in associating it with the you know, with with

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the market riot, I keep wanting to say, hey, market,

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that's not it.

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That's right, Hay market, Oh.

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Hay market Riot. Okay, to associate with that would have,

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you know, would have put a patina on this, I think.

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So I thought that was brilliant that he decided to

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do it, you know it, move it up to the

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first of May. Yeah.

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So what happened to May first? It became a loyalty

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Days recognized it in nineteen fifty five, and Eisenhower signed

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a law Public Law eighty five Dash five to nine

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making May first Loyalty Day. What happened in the eighteen

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ninety four elections? The Democrats lost big time, their biggest

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midterm loss in decades. What happened to Eugene Debs? He

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was arrested because the railroad strike interrupted delivery of US mail,

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and so he's put in prison for six months, and

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what does he do. He ravenously needs Karl Marx's dos

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copy toll. And so after he's let out, he pushes

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for a corporate income tax on the rich, a personal

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income tax on the rich, and then an inheritance tax

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on the rich. And then he had an attorney named

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Clarence Darrow, and you know him because that's.

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A familiar name, right exactly.

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He defended murderers and evolution in the Scopes Monkey Trout.

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So Eugene Debs is out of prison and he found

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the Socialist Party of America in nineteen oh one, runs

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for president five times between nineteen hundred and nineteen twenty.

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He gets zero electoral votes, and so he starts this

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movement to get rid of the electoral college. Every now

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and then we'll hear about that.

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Right.

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Then World War One starts and Eugene Debs urges resistance

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to the draft, telling people to be draft dodgers. One

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that followed his advice was Roger Baldwin, a draft dog

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who started the ACLU for the purpose of defending socialist agitators.

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That's how the ACLU came into being. Roger Baldwin said,

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I am for socialism, I seek social ownership of property,

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abolition of the propertied class, sole control of those who

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produce wealth. Communism is the goal. Well, Eugene Debs's influence

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went across the ocean. So when was his strike eighteen

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ninety four? Well, what happened in Russia? Well, somebody that

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read Eugene Debs was Vladimir Lenin. And you know Lenin

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because he organized the Bolshevik Revolution. Are killed twelve million people.

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And so Lenin writes this about Debs. It's called an

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open letter to Boris Sovereign January twenty seventh, nineteen eighteen.

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Look at America, haven't we the beginnings of a split

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there too? Eugene Debs, the American rebel, declares in the

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socialist press that he recognizes only one type of war,

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civil war, for the victory of socialism, and that he

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would sooner be shot than vote a single cent for

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American war expenditure. And then Lenin quotes again, he says,

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on his appeal to German independence February nineteen nineteen, I

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quoted this statement of the American rebel Eugene Debs, to

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the effect that he would rather be shot than agree

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to vote for imperialist war loans, and that the only

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war he would fight in is a war of workers

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against capitalists. So here Eugene Debs in America is helping

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to have the Russian Revolution right exactly.

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So.

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Eugene Debs gave an anti government speech in Canton, Ohio,

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June sixteenth, nineteen eighteen, and as a result, he was

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arrested and he was found guilty of sedition and sentenced

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to ten years in prison. His followers were upset, and

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they decided to have a May Day parade in Cleveland, Ohio.

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And what did they do? It turned into riots and

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violent antifat styles, smashing windows. It's called the May Day

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Rise of nineteen nineteen.

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Imagine that a p There's nothing new under the sun, right,

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Bill Fetter, They just kept it, just keeps on repeating itself.

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Debs's attorney asks for presidential pardon. Woodrow Wilson writes across

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the paperwork denied, saying that during World War One, while

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the flower of American youth was pouring out of his

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blood to vindicate the cause of civilization, this man Debs

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stood behind the lines, sniping, attacking, and denouncing them. This

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man is a traitor to his country who will never

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be pardoned. During my administration, Warren G. Harding, President didn't

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pardon Debs, and his White House released a statement, there

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is no question of his guilt. He is a dangerous man,

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calculated to mislead the unthinking and affording excuse for those

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with criminal intent. Teddy Roosevelt described Debs for fomenting bloodshed

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and anarchy and riot, calling him one of the nation's

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most undesirable citizens. Bernie Sanders produced a documentary praising Eugene Debs.

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In nineteen seventy nine, Bernie Sanders hung a portrait of

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Eugene Debs in the city Hall in Burlington, Vermont. Bernie

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Sanders dedicated a plaque to Eugene Debs in his congressional office.

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Now back to Russia.

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I'll tell you what, Bill, We've got about a minute

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and a half left for this segment here, so we're

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gonna have to tie it down, and then, of course,

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you know, if they stay with us, they'll be able

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to hear the next two successive parts as well.

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To go in and all this information is in a

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book called Socialism, The Real History from Plato to the President.

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My website's Americanmanute dot Com Lenin decides to take his

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revolution global and he forms the Communist Internacional in nineteen nineteen.

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So what happens in America? Debs's Socialist Party members formed

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the Communist Party USA September first, nineteen nineteen, and they

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run candidates for president every year from nineteen twenty four

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to nineteen forty, Communists running for president in America. But

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what happened nineteen forty? That's when the Communist Party decided

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to support Franklin Roosevelt because of his socialist New Deal

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programs during the depression. And Roosevelt made a treaty with

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Stallin during World War Two. And so this is where

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you get Reagan saying I didn't leave the Democratic Party.

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The Democratic Party left me right, as these communists have infiltrated.

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Albert Herlong, congressman in nineteen sixty three, read the communist

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tactics into the congressional record and won. It was capture

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one or both political parties, right. So these and then

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Well, good morning, glad you could join us Bill Martinez

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here along with Bill Fetner, the American Minute creator. We're

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talking Labor Day and how it came about and the long,

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rich history of America. And it's interesting because it's been

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in the battle, as Bill and I discussed from the onset,

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a battle between capitalism and communism, and here we are.

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I mean, you were just relating the story of how

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the communist in America in nineteen forty found a home

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with Franklin Delano Roosevelt. Why should that surprise people?

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Huh belt, Yeah, yeah, So a little background. So you

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had Industrial Revolution early eighteen hundreds, people moving from farms

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to factories. A lot of immigrants came over worked in

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the factories and they loved it. We had the high

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fastest rise in the standard of living in human history.

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But some German immigrants brought with them Karl Marx's idea

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of redistributing wealth, and they organized unions. And then there

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was the Pullman railroad car strike in eighteen ninety four

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that destroyed eighty million dollars worth of railroad cars. President

494
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Grover Cleveland sends in the federal troops to restore order.

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Debs is put in jail. He studies Communist DOS copy

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TWL by Karl Marx comes out and starts the Socialist

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Party of America. And then branching off of the Socialist

498
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Party of America is the Communist Party USA. And by

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the way, Grover Cleveland instituted Labor Day to try to

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appease the workers. So that's where you get Labor Day.

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But the Communist Party USA ran candidates for president up

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until nineteen forty. What happened then, that's when the Communist

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Party USA decided to support Democrats. Franklin Roosevelt made a

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treaty with Stalin during World War Two, and Franklin Roosevelt

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put in place these New Deal socialist programs during the

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Great Depression, and so that's when the Democrat Party began

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to take on a new direction. Zell Miller was a

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US senator, the last pro life Democrat US senator. He

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wrote a book twenty five, two thousand and five, Deficit

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of Decency, And so I met him during this time,

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and he said, the National Democratic Party has lost its way.

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They've been taken over by the very liberal, left wing

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leaning special inter groups in Washington.

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So you're talking as early as the two thousands of

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probably even before then. And you know he had to

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see this happening. I mean today we talk about it

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quite fluently how hard left the Democrats have been going.

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But they've been on that trajectory for decades, is what

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you're saying.

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Yeah, Bill Maher in his broadcast talks about I grew up,

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you know, a Democrat, liberal, and we were against the war.

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But here you have the Democrats being for the war.

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And I grew up we wanted the government not to

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control us, and here they're wanting the government to track

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us and control us. And we wanted freedom of speech,

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and now they're wanting to cancel people and Center speech

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and anyway. So in Chicago, these different socialist organizers had

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a Haymarket riot in eighteen eighty six they were having

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a protest that somebody threw a dynamite bomb and killed

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police officers. I know, it's hard to imagine that you

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could have a nice, peaceful protest turned into violence, but yeah,

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so they put up a statue to honor the police

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officers in Haymarket Square. That statue was blown up by

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the Weathermen Underground in nineteen sixty nine during their Days

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of Rage. Right, they re put up the statue and

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the Weatherman Underground blew it up again in nineteen seventy.

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The Weathermen Underground leader Bill Ayers, you know him because

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he launched Barack Obama's State Senate campaign. Bill Ayers said.

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I mean it's interesting because here, I mean, we've talked

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about the tentacles of the Weathermen Underground group and Bill

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Ayers launching Barack Obama. But you know, the media is

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not curious enough to really define and bring to light

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those political ties. But you know, here in retrospect post

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Obama's administration where starts. You know, we're seeing it quite

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clearly that Barack Obama didn't lie to us. He told

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us exactly. We just weren't understanding and listening.

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Yeah, he wanted a fundamental change in America.

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Fundamental transformation, he said, right.

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Yeah, Bill Ayers said, I am a radical leftist, small

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C communist. Maybe I'm the last communist who will admit it.

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The ethics of communism still appeal to me. I don't

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like Lenin as much as I like early Marks Weatherman.

553
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Underground member Eric Mann. You know him because he trained

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Patrise Colors, who founded Black Lives Matter, and Patrise Color

555
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said in twenty fifteen, myself and Alicia in particular are

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trained organizers. We are trained Marxists. We are superversed on

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sort of ideological theories. And so these ripples of these

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socialists coming over huge indebs. Bernie Sanders, you know the.

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Community organizing genesis, you know the seeds of community organizers, right, and.

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Now, backing up in a big picture, Laborers in America

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work and get money and buy things trucks, houses, cars, boats, guns,

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personal possessions, and if they want, they can give away

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some of their money. Workers in socialist countries don't get

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money and can't own anything because the government owns them

565
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and it owns everything. And so if you don't own anything,

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you can't be charitable, you.

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Can't give anything away. There's nothing left.

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And then people say, well, it's not communism and socialism. Well,

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Karl Marx said, communism socialism is a transition phase to communism. Right,

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So it's you have capitalism on one end of the spectrum,

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communism on the other end of the spectrum, and socialism

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in between. It's this transition phase from people owning private

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property to people owning no property. And the communists think

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that when the whole world gets rid of all private

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property everywhere, then there'll be a utopia. Not realizing that.

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So are you Are you telling me Bill here that

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that the communists don't celebrate a labor Day? Well, I

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certainly not in the context as we do here in America.

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I would think, right, right, right.

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I don't think they have that over there because they

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you don't own anything.

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It would be an oxymoron, I guess, huh.

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I talked to somebody that lived in Russia during the

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Soviet era, and they said nobody fixed up their house

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because if you made it nice, a Communist party member

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could come by and see it and like it and

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falsely accuse you. They drag you out of your house

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in the middle of the night, and two weeks later

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they'd be living in your house. So everybody lets the

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00:34:31.079 --> 00:34:33.679
outside of their house get dumpy and on the inside, well,

591
00:34:34.719 --> 00:34:37.079
things break. There's nothing in the store to fix it

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unless you go to the black market. And then if

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you go to the black market, you live in fear

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of the rest of your life because you think, oh,

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it's why I might snitch on me. But Karl Marx said,

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the theory of communists is summed up in a single sentence,

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abolition of private property. So the goal is you don't

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own anything. Lennon said the goal of socialism is communism,

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and then Karl Marx said, between capitalism and communist society

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there lies the period of revolutionary transformation. I love the

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quote from Anne Rand, an author. She said, there's no

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difference between communism and socialism except in the means of

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achieving the same ultimate end. Communism proposes to enslave men

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by force, socialism by vote. It's merely the difference between

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murder and suicide. And now, the word commune means community,

606
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and the idea is everything is owned in community. Yeah,

607
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it sounds nice, but somebody has to be the one

608
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doling out all that community stuff exactly.

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Somebody's at the top of the pile, that's for sure, Yes.

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And the saying is he who holds the purse strings

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has the power. John Lennon and Yoko Ono write a

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song in nineteen seventy one, imagine, and there's a line

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imagine no possessions and no religion too, so it just

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be this pointless brief existence klau Schwab World Economic Form.

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They released a video said, by twenty thirty, you'll own

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nothing and be happy own nothing. Wherever you heard that before, yeah, right, exactly.

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And now socialism, the very word itself was coined by

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French philosopher Henry D. Saint Simon who lived around seventeen sixty.

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And it's the opposite of individual. So you have individual

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on one side, socialism means the group or the state

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on the other side. And so Judeo Christian civilization emphasizes

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the individual. That you have a worth because you, individually

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are made in the image of God, and this God

624
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is not a respector of persons. So you have a

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worth independent of any group. But socialism doesn't like that.

626
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They want your worth, your identity, to be with the group.

627
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So what we have in America is based on the Bible.

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John F. Kennedy's inaugural address nineteen sixty one said, the

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rights of man come not from the generosity of the state,

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but from the hand of God. HARRYUS Truman and his

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inaugural nineteen forty nine, we believe all men are created

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equal because we're created in the image of God. So

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the very ideas of rights as an individual, we're all

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equal as individuals. That goes back to believing in the

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God of the Bible, exact Islamic God, because there's no equality,

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not in the Hindu gods. There's three hundred million, and

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the Brahmin and near the top, and the untouchables are

638
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at the bottom. Atheism countries has no God. No, these

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are Bible ideas that have got incorporated and we've taken

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them for granted, but they came from the Bible, exactly.

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Got to go to quick break more from Bill Feeder

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We're back with you just about fourteen minutes before the

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top of the rim, Bill Martinez, Bill Federer's with us,

723
00:41:55.559 --> 00:41:58.320
and we're celebrating and talking about the labor day and

724
00:41:58.360 --> 00:42:00.960
all its complexities. It's evolution and how it's come about

725
00:42:01.320 --> 00:42:04.920
and where we are, you know, throughout this rich history,

726
00:42:05.360 --> 00:42:09.360
and it takes us back to this this nexus. Bill

727
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as you been laying out, it's the battle between capitalism

728
00:42:13.039 --> 00:42:17.079
and socialism communism, however way you want to look at it.

729
00:42:17.119 --> 00:42:21.079
But as you pointed out, and you know, as Lenin

730
00:42:21.159 --> 00:42:24.039
and others have declared it to be, as you know,

731
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socialism is just the yellow brick road to communism.

732
00:42:28.280 --> 00:42:32.920
Yeah, and I do want to acknowledge that unions did

733
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end child labor. That's a good thing.

734
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Yeah.

735
00:42:37.000 --> 00:42:39.079
They did come up with an eight hour work week,

736
00:42:39.320 --> 00:42:42.760
that's a good thing, and a eight hour work day

737
00:42:42.880 --> 00:42:46.400
and a forty hour work week. They pushed minimum wages,

738
00:42:46.480 --> 00:42:49.960
safer conditions, more benefits for workers. Again, you read Upton

739
00:42:50.039 --> 00:42:53.559
Sinclair's The Jungle and a meat packing Plant, and you know,

740
00:42:53.679 --> 00:42:56.920
and all kinds of unsafe conditions that we're going on there.

741
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And there's greed. I divide the world between greed in

742
00:43:00.400 --> 00:43:03.760
the gospel, right, people motivated by the gospel, and they're

743
00:43:03.800 --> 00:43:07.039
digging wells and villages and starting hospitals, and you actually

744
00:43:07.039 --> 00:43:10.559
have people motivated by greed. And but so those were

745
00:43:10.599 --> 00:43:11.760
good things, right Bill.

746
00:43:11.800 --> 00:43:13.239
Let me let me ask you this real quick, just

747
00:43:13.280 --> 00:43:16.320
to real sidetrack, speaking of the unions, The unions at

748
00:43:16.320 --> 00:43:19.360
one point represented what thirty three thirty five percent of

749
00:43:19.360 --> 00:43:22.840
the labor force, right, fifty four right, and then now

750
00:43:22.840 --> 00:43:25.119
it's down to about six percent. And so what they

751
00:43:25.199 --> 00:43:31.559
did They transitioned from uh from what from private to public?

752
00:43:31.599 --> 00:43:34.199
You know, they got now they control the government. And

753
00:43:34.599 --> 00:43:38.400
what are they about twenty twenty five percent represented in

754
00:43:38.400 --> 00:43:42.599
the government something like that. Yeah, yeah, and so the

755
00:43:42.880 --> 00:43:45.039
but my boy, my point and asking that question is

756
00:43:45.239 --> 00:43:48.679
why did that happen? Why did did you know? Because

757
00:43:48.679 --> 00:43:51.320
we see these good things, we see some positive benefit

758
00:43:51.639 --> 00:43:55.360
of unions coming into the labor and uh, you know,

759
00:43:55.400 --> 00:43:58.519
protecting children, protecting the worker. You know, there were some

760
00:43:58.599 --> 00:44:01.360
good things to be drawn out of it. But something

761
00:44:01.480 --> 00:44:05.400
happened that made them less significant, that caused them to

762
00:44:05.440 --> 00:44:07.760
move out of the marketplace. So that's my question to you.

763
00:44:08.079 --> 00:44:08.719
What happened?

764
00:44:09.320 --> 00:44:13.119
Well, all these benefits cost money, and that companies have

765
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to stay in business, so they have to look for

766
00:44:15.639 --> 00:44:19.400
ways to cut expenses, and one of the ways was

767
00:44:19.440 --> 00:44:22.440
to bring in cheaper labor. And so Henry Ford his

768
00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:25.280
Ford Motor Company, it's a factory, He's hiring lots of people.

769
00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:28.559
The story circulated that he was going around the world

770
00:44:28.559 --> 00:44:31.320
looking for alternative sources for rubber and he's over in

771
00:44:31.320 --> 00:44:35.440
the Middle East, and a Yemeny sailor helped put his

772
00:44:35.480 --> 00:44:37.480
luggage on the boat, and he did a good job.

773
00:44:37.760 --> 00:44:39.719
And Henry Ford said, hey, if you show up at

774
00:44:39.719 --> 00:44:41.920
my auto factory in Detroit, I'll pay you five dollars

775
00:44:41.960 --> 00:44:44.880
a day, which back then was a decent amount. And

776
00:44:44.960 --> 00:44:49.119
so the word spreads and it starts this migration. Airbamerica

777
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dot Com reported September fifth, twenty twenty. The origin of

778
00:44:52.480 --> 00:44:54.480
the story of how the Yemeni community in Michigan is

779
00:44:54.480 --> 00:44:56.679
an interesting one. Way back in the early nineteen hundreds,

780
00:44:56.679 --> 00:45:00.559
Henry Ford started started recruiting Yemeny workers to work at

781
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Ford's factories. After a few years, Ford sent for more workers,

782
00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:06.039
and the yen and the American community to began to grow.

783
00:45:06.400 --> 00:45:08.920
People who gained citizenship during their time working for a

784
00:45:09.039 --> 00:45:13.400
forward brought their families over and started lives in Michigan

785
00:45:13.559 --> 00:45:16.119
while remaining close to their family back in Yemen. So

786
00:45:16.280 --> 00:45:20.559
Henry Ford to break the unions, brought in cheap the

787
00:45:20.639 --> 00:45:25.239
immigrant labor from the Middle East, and then you had

788
00:45:25.639 --> 00:45:29.360
companies saying, well, let's automate and then we can have

789
00:45:29.480 --> 00:45:32.599
machines do the jobs workers did. And then let's outsource,

790
00:45:32.920 --> 00:45:36.199
and that was the big one. So World War Two ends,

791
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and we America had the Marshall Plan, and we're pumping

792
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money and helping to rebuild Germany and Japan with brand

793
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new equipment, brand new factories, cheap labor. And they would

794
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use their profits to lobby politicians in America to reduce

795
00:45:50.480 --> 00:45:53.960
the tariffs so they could bring their less expensive items

796
00:45:54.000 --> 00:45:57.360
into America and gain a larger part of the market

797
00:45:57.400 --> 00:46:00.199
and put out of business the companies hiring peace people

798
00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:02.639
in America, so they'd have to shut down and move overseas.

799
00:46:03.079 --> 00:46:05.920
And then we began to see this hostile business environment

800
00:46:05.960 --> 00:46:09.119
in America. Higher union wages. Well, it's good for the worker,

801
00:46:09.239 --> 00:46:12.079
but it causes the company to have to cut corners,

802
00:46:12.199 --> 00:46:17.360
increase taxes in America, expensive lawsuits, burdens and regulation, environmental

803
00:46:17.400 --> 00:46:20.039
restrictions and so forth. And so you began to squeeze

804
00:46:20.039 --> 00:46:22.440
the sponge. The water goes out. More and more businesses

805
00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:25.360
say we're in business to make money, and we can

806
00:46:25.440 --> 00:46:27.920
make more money if we're located in another country.

807
00:46:28.400 --> 00:46:28.840
Exactly.

808
00:46:29.039 --> 00:46:32.440
Trump is trying to reverse that by putting tariffs on

809
00:46:32.480 --> 00:46:35.320
goods from other countries and trying to move them back

810
00:46:35.360 --> 00:46:38.800
into America, and I think he's having some success there.

811
00:46:39.159 --> 00:46:44.119
But when companies went overseas, their patriotism went with them

812
00:46:44.599 --> 00:46:47.519
and they became globalists. So this is when you begin

813
00:46:47.559 --> 00:46:51.280
to see this word globalists. And their patriotism was to

814
00:46:51.320 --> 00:46:54.840
the bottom line, the profit. And so you have a

815
00:46:55.000 --> 00:47:00.920
very important distinction between individual capitalism that is patrioteriotic, that

816
00:47:01.079 --> 00:47:04.400
supports the country, that gives them the opportunities to start

817
00:47:04.440 --> 00:47:07.519
their own business and do a transaction with somebody without

818
00:47:07.519 --> 00:47:10.960
the government sticking its nose in there, individual capitalism. But

819
00:47:11.039 --> 00:47:14.920
you can trast that to global capitalism, where it want

820
00:47:14.960 --> 00:47:20.960
to squelch competition, and global capitalists will work with communists

821
00:47:21.119 --> 00:47:24.159
and they just consider, you know, slave labor as a

822
00:47:24.679 --> 00:47:28.760
even the cheapest form of and so that's why it's

823
00:47:28.800 --> 00:47:31.400
we can't just say capitalism versus commonly there's a difference

824
00:47:31.440 --> 00:47:39.239
between individual capitalism versus globalist capitalism. Anyway, So we have

825
00:47:39.480 --> 00:47:44.760
these increased benefits, but the consequence was higher expenses and

826
00:47:44.800 --> 00:47:47.960
then the businesses trying to lower them by bringing in

827
00:47:48.320 --> 00:47:52.199
cheap immigrant labor that started this migration of Muslims to Detroit.

828
00:47:52.880 --> 00:47:56.159
I just recently read where in ham Trammick Michigan. They

829
00:47:56.159 --> 00:47:58.559
not only took over the city council, they put in

830
00:47:58.559 --> 00:48:02.039
a Muslim sheriff who's now an acting Sharia law And

831
00:48:02.159 --> 00:48:05.519
some young guy twenty one posted something on Facebook that

832
00:48:05.559 --> 00:48:08.760
he was tired of these annual rallies that they say

833
00:48:08.800 --> 00:48:12.320
death to America. And he posted something critical of that,

834
00:48:12.599 --> 00:48:15.159
and they came to his house and arrested him for

835
00:48:15.280 --> 00:48:17.039
free speech right here in America.

836
00:48:17.079 --> 00:48:18.639
In America, I'm believing them.

837
00:48:19.039 --> 00:48:23.519
So. And now, one of the interesting things about socialism

838
00:48:24.119 --> 00:48:29.639
is that they need a crisis to get people to

839
00:48:29.760 --> 00:48:35.280
be willing to surrender their freedoms. So Frederick Engels, who

840
00:48:35.719 --> 00:48:38.280
was a friend of Marx, he says that they should

841
00:48:38.280 --> 00:48:43.639
be alchemists of the revolution. Every fresh economic slump will

842
00:48:43.719 --> 00:48:48.400
ruin more small capitalists and then cause more people to

843
00:48:48.559 --> 00:48:52.440
become unemployed, and then they'll sign up for welfare, and

844
00:48:52.440 --> 00:48:55.320
then the government will control them. So here you have

845
00:48:55.440 --> 00:48:58.480
Frederick Engels saying, hey, we want to put the small businesses.

846
00:48:58.480 --> 00:49:00.920
What was the COVID response. They'd put out a business,

847
00:49:01.000 --> 00:49:04.400
a whole lot of small businesses, exactly, yes, and then

848
00:49:04.440 --> 00:49:08.079
more people would sign up for the welfare. You had

849
00:49:09.639 --> 00:49:16.559
the Nikita Khrushchev reportedly told Ezra taff Benson, Eisenhower Secretary

850
00:49:16.599 --> 00:49:19.639
of Agriculture in nineteen fifty nine. He says, we won't

851
00:49:19.719 --> 00:49:22.440
have to fight. You will so weaken your economy until

852
00:49:22.480 --> 00:49:25.599
you fall like an overripe fruit into our hands. So

853
00:49:25.639 --> 00:49:28.280
this idea is, you want to destroy the economy, get

854
00:49:28.320 --> 00:49:31.119
everything in debt, and then people lose their jobs and

855
00:49:31.119 --> 00:49:32.719
they go to the government sign up for welfare, and

856
00:49:32.760 --> 00:49:37.079
the government ends up taking control of the population through

857
00:49:37.119 --> 00:49:40.360
the back door. Now I want to read a quote

858
00:49:40.400 --> 00:49:46.199
from Alexander Solzhanitzen. He was from the Soviet Union, who

859
00:49:46.239 --> 00:49:50.119
stands for a Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, and he

860
00:49:50.199 --> 00:49:55.119
spent eleven years in labor camps, and he addresses America

861
00:49:55.159 --> 00:49:58.119
at June thirtieth, nineteen seventy five. He says, I call

862
00:49:58.239 --> 00:50:01.519
upon America to be more careful with its trust. Prevent

863
00:50:01.639 --> 00:50:06.519
those who are attempting to establish even finer legal shades

864
00:50:06.559 --> 00:50:10.320
of equality, because they're falsely using the struggle for social

865
00:50:10.679 --> 00:50:13.719
justice to lead you down a false road. They're trying

866
00:50:13.719 --> 00:50:16.440
to weaken you. They're trying to disarm your strong and

867
00:50:16.519 --> 00:50:20.840
magnificent country. I call upon ordinary working American men do

868
00:50:20.920 --> 00:50:25.400
not let yourselves become weak. Now highlighted at the beginning

869
00:50:25.440 --> 00:50:29.119
that America that you could come up with an innovative

870
00:50:29.159 --> 00:50:35.800
idea start a company. Booker T. Washington encapsulated this. He

871
00:50:35.880 --> 00:50:40.119
started the National Negro Business League in the year nineteen hundred,

872
00:50:40.519 --> 00:50:43.199
ten years before the US Chamber of Commerce. And he

873
00:50:43.320 --> 00:50:46.679
got it. And he says, I want you to own land.

874
00:50:47.000 --> 00:50:49.880
He says, anyone can seek a job, but it requires

875
00:50:49.880 --> 00:50:53.639
a person of rare ability to create a job. What

876
00:50:53.679 --> 00:50:55.840
we should do in our schools is turn out fewer

877
00:50:55.960 --> 00:51:01.119
job seekers and more job creators. And then Reagan nineteen

878
00:51:01.159 --> 00:51:03.360
eighty eight said, I believe we really can say that

879
00:51:03.440 --> 00:51:09.360
God did give mankind virtually unlimited gifts to invent, produce, create,

880
00:51:10.000 --> 00:51:11.920
and for that reason alone, it would be wrong for

881
00:51:12.000 --> 00:51:15.199
governments to devise a tax structure or an economic system

882
00:51:15.239 --> 00:51:17.320
that suppresses and denies those gifts.

883
00:51:17.599 --> 00:51:17.960
Amen.

884
00:51:18.239 --> 00:51:19.760
So, in other words, instead of it being if you

885
00:51:19.800 --> 00:51:22.039
take a bigger piece of the pie, I get a

886
00:51:22.039 --> 00:51:26.719
smaller piece. No, it's bake another pie. Yes, we were

887
00:51:26.760 --> 00:51:29.559
serving the creator. He creates the universe. He can give

888
00:51:29.599 --> 00:51:35.920
you ideas, have faith and step out. And I always

889
00:51:35.960 --> 00:51:38.719
like to throw in a little spiritual Insight one Corinthian

890
00:51:38.800 --> 00:51:42.280
fifteen fifty eight. It says, always abounding in the work

891
00:51:42.360 --> 00:51:44.639
of the Lord. For as much as you know that

892
00:51:44.719 --> 00:51:47.519
your labor is not in vain in the Lord, so

893
00:51:47.559 --> 00:51:50.320
we can work, and we can work for the Lord.

894
00:51:50.840 --> 00:51:52.920
And here we are made in his image. Bill and

895
00:51:54.039 --> 00:51:59.440
what he offers is an unlimited supply, because he's Unlimmed's infinite.

896
00:51:59.599 --> 00:52:02.599
And you know people think sometimes that, well, you know,

897
00:52:02.679 --> 00:52:04.480
if I ask too much of God, or if I

898
00:52:04.519 --> 00:52:06.159
get too much God, there's not going to be enough

899
00:52:06.159 --> 00:52:09.800
for my neighbor. That's not the way God operates, you know,

900
00:52:10.119 --> 00:52:13.599
to your point that you made earlier, it is never

901
00:52:13.639 --> 00:52:17.119
it is never ending. And God would not tell us

902
00:52:17.199 --> 00:52:20.599
to I mean, because he told all of humanity go forth,

903
00:52:20.719 --> 00:52:23.239
be fruitful and multiply. Why would he tell us to

904
00:52:23.239 --> 00:52:26.079
do something that we weren't capable of doing, or that

905
00:52:26.159 --> 00:52:29.599
the resources would not be there for us to fulfill

906
00:52:29.719 --> 00:52:30.960
that commandment?

907
00:52:31.840 --> 00:52:35.719
Yeah. I mentioned that in my book Socialism The Real

908
00:52:35.760 --> 00:52:38.800
History from Plato to the Present, and then my son

909
00:52:38.840 --> 00:52:41.880
and I did a new book called Courageous Christianity. We'll

910
00:52:41.960 --> 00:52:43.280
have to talk about that, but it gives the whole

911
00:52:43.320 --> 00:52:47.159
history of the YMCA and this idea that Middle Ages

912
00:52:47.800 --> 00:52:52.559
was anything physical is bad, so fast until you're eighty

913
00:52:52.559 --> 00:52:55.639
pounds and you're more spiritual. And it's like, yeah, but

914
00:52:55.679 --> 00:52:57.639
how can you defend the orphan in the widow if

915
00:52:57.639 --> 00:52:58.480
you're eighty pounds?

916
00:52:58.559 --> 00:52:58.760
Right?

917
00:53:00.079 --> 00:53:03.320
So this idea that God made you your spirit, and

918
00:53:03.400 --> 00:53:05.000
he made your mind, and he made your body, and

919
00:53:05.039 --> 00:53:07.199
you can surrender all all of it to God and

920
00:53:07.239 --> 00:53:10.280
he can use all of it to establish His covenant

921
00:53:10.360 --> 00:53:14.000
on earth. So you can be a strong person and

922
00:53:14.639 --> 00:53:19.039
use it under control to be a blessing to the

923
00:53:19.079 --> 00:53:21.960
weak and defend the orphans and the widows and so forth.

924
00:53:22.360 --> 00:53:26.400
So it's a it's a fascinating study. But that new

925
00:53:26.400 --> 00:53:28.880
book is called Courageous Christianity.

926
00:53:28.519 --> 00:53:31.800
And all available there at your website right.

927
00:53:32.000 --> 00:53:33.639
Right, Americanminute dot com.

928
00:53:34.119 --> 00:53:36.199
Well, we got to leave it there, Bill Fetter, as always,

929
00:53:36.519 --> 00:53:38.519
thank you so much for all the information. You're such

930
00:53:38.559 --> 00:53:42.239
a blessing. I so appreciate you. And you know, have

931
00:53:42.639 --> 00:53:46.599
a happy labor day, enjoy the fruits of your labor

932
00:53:47.000 --> 00:53:49.480
and be thankful to God because He is the one

933
00:53:49.519 --> 00:53:53.559
that is has bountifully given all to us, hasn't he?

934
00:53:54.239 --> 00:53:57.039
Amen? Amen? Well, and I thank God for you Bill,

935
00:53:57.519 --> 00:53:59.639
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Getting America back on Track, Bill Martinez Live, Well.

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Good morning, and welcome six minutes after the top of

959
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the hour. Right now, I'm Bill Martinez's Doug Kellogg Americans

960
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for Tax Reforms, New York State Project Director. I guess

961
00:55:25.360 --> 00:55:27.280
you don't have your hands full there in New York

962
00:55:27.320 --> 00:55:30.519
these days, right, Doug.

963
00:55:29.440 --> 00:55:33.440
Bill, Yes, New York gets my hands full. And I

964
00:55:33.480 --> 00:55:36.639
also cover other states for Americans or Tax Reforms, so

965
00:55:36.840 --> 00:55:39.039
we have a lot of work. Fortunately, some of those

966
00:55:39.079 --> 00:55:41.360
states are still part of America and we get to.

967
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Cut taxes and do some good stuff.

968
00:55:43.519 --> 00:55:46.000
But some of them are you know, the problem children

969
00:55:46.119 --> 00:55:49.360
like New York that want to keep increasing their taxes

970
00:55:49.440 --> 00:55:52.760
and expect to somehow for that to work out, even

971
00:55:52.800 --> 00:55:54.960
though it hasn't for the past decade.

972
00:55:55.480 --> 00:55:57.840
Well, you got what some like fourteen states that you

973
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you supervise.

974
00:56:00.159 --> 00:56:05.039
Right, Yes, a little less than that, but yes, yes, right, but.

975
00:56:05.000 --> 00:56:06.800
It's still enough to keep your hands full. But there's

976
00:56:07.039 --> 00:56:08.960
you know, light at the end of tunnel and encouragement

977
00:56:08.960 --> 00:56:12.239
in some of these states. States have consistently been moving

978
00:56:13.039 --> 00:56:17.599
to a zero tax level. Some are you know, consistently

979
00:56:17.679 --> 00:56:20.400
showing you know, a plan to get there. It's not

980
00:56:20.400 --> 00:56:22.719
going to happen overnight, but they're starting to look in

981
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the right direction and move to lowering taxes because they

982
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see that in these other states where they have done that.

983
00:56:29.360 --> 00:56:32.280
It's working right absolutely.

984
00:56:32.320 --> 00:56:35.679
I mean it's very well said. We continue to work

985
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on lowering and eliminating income taxes at the state level

986
00:56:40.960 --> 00:56:44.880
across the country. We've had more states recently. It doesn't

987
00:56:44.920 --> 00:56:47.480
get the national attention it should, but I appreciate you

988
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shining a.

989
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Light on it.

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We've had Oklahoma this year pass a bill to phase

991
00:56:52.000 --> 00:56:56.119
out their income tax, which is tremendous. We've had Louisiana

992
00:56:56.239 --> 00:56:59.119
go to a flat tax. Mississippi pass a plan as

993
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well to gradually eliminate their state income tax. That's just

994
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in the past year. And that's on top of the

995
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states like West Virginia that have passed a plan to

996
00:57:09.840 --> 00:57:13.199
go to zero. We've had Ohio go to a flat tax.

997
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We have states that don't have the automatic ratcheting down

998
00:57:17.480 --> 00:57:19.480
like those other states, where just over time it's going

999
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to go to zero as the state takes in more

1000
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tax dollars than necessary. But we have states going to

1001
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flat taxes and cutting taxes like Ohio. So the list

1002
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keeps growing. I mean, we keep seeing the state tax cuts.

1003
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And the number one reason I think it's working so

1004
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well politically is that it gets results. It makes the

1005
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cost of living more affordable, and we see people voting

1006
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with their feet in addition to when they go the

1007
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ballot box, and they continue to flock to states that

1008
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are low and no income tax states, states that have

1009
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put that marker on the map that they're going to zero.

1010
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And now, you know, I think this is a couple

1011
00:57:56.559 --> 00:57:59.079
of years ago, the southeastern states that have been cutting

1012
00:57:59.079 --> 00:58:02.679
their taxes, they're combined GDP is now larger than the

1013
00:58:02.679 --> 00:58:06.920
Northeastern states that used to dominate the country's economy. So

1014
00:58:07.719 --> 00:58:10.760
the results just continue to be there. And for anybody

1015
00:58:11.039 --> 00:58:14.360
that's paying attention, they see what works. But in a

1016
00:58:14.400 --> 00:58:16.880
city like New York City, we're seeing an election where

1017
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we have folks running who aren't learning, aren't learning that

1018
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very clear or lesson.

1019
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Unfortunately, Yeah, they think they need to, you know, increase

1020
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taxes and put a stranglehold on productivity all the more.

1021
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And you know, it's interesting, particularly as you cite New York,

1022
00:58:34.519 --> 00:58:38.280
because you've had a democratic socialist there in Mom Donnie

1023
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who doesn't want there to be ownership of property, which is,

1024
00:58:45.360 --> 00:58:49.079
you know, a key marker for socialism and communism. But

1025
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yet he's he's got to generate revenue, So how's he

1026
00:58:52.480 --> 00:58:54.880
going to do that? Yeah?

1027
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Absolutely, And the property rights issue is as big as

1028
00:58:59.239 --> 00:59:00.280
the tax issue.

1029
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For somebody like zor On.

1030
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These things like rent rent freezes and having the government

1031
00:59:05.559 --> 00:59:08.280
run grocery stores and these kinds of things where you're

1032
00:59:08.320 --> 00:59:10.360
trying to you're gonna have the government do a worse

1033
00:59:10.480 --> 00:59:13.840
job of what private businesses are doing, or you're severely

1034
00:59:14.000 --> 00:59:18.320
curtailing property rights, and that scares away investment. I mean,

1035
00:59:18.559 --> 00:59:21.920
especially for which I don't understand how they don't get

1036
00:59:21.920 --> 00:59:25.599
that at all, or maybe they ignore it. The smaller landlords,

1037
00:59:25.639 --> 00:59:27.280
the mom and pop types who have to put a

1038
00:59:27.360 --> 00:59:31.079
huge amount of their life savings on the line in

1039
00:59:31.239 --> 00:59:35.480
order to get a property, and it just it crushes

1040
00:59:35.519 --> 00:59:39.280
them and scares away that kind of activity. On the

1041
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tax front, I mean, Zoron, he needs to check out

1042
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our state tax map at AHTR dot org slash tack.

1043
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I love that see where people are moving and see

1044
00:59:50.920 --> 00:59:53.719
the load income tax states winning and continuing to cut

1045
00:59:53.719 --> 00:59:58.519
taxes because he is talking about raising taxes I mean

1046
00:59:58.559 --> 01:00:02.199
the two big ones. His other ideas, the two big ones.

1047
01:00:02.800 --> 01:00:05.800
He wants to increase the city's personal income tax and

1048
01:00:05.840 --> 01:00:11.199
he wants to increase the corporate income tax drastically. So

1049
01:00:11.280 --> 01:00:15.480
both are significant tax increases for people are not aware.

1050
01:00:15.760 --> 01:00:17.480
If you live in New York City, you pay the

1051
01:00:17.599 --> 01:00:22.119
highest combined top marginal tax rate in the country. I mean,

1052
01:00:22.159 --> 01:00:25.880
you have the significant state income tax, which has a

1053
01:00:25.960 --> 01:00:30.239
millionaire's tax on top of it thanks to Zorn's still

1054
01:00:30.239 --> 01:00:34.880
opponent Andrew Cuomo when he was governor, right, and so

1055
01:00:34.920 --> 01:00:38.320
you're paying the highest combined rate the city personal income

1056
01:00:38.320 --> 01:00:41.719
tax about three point nine percent in New York City.

1057
01:00:42.239 --> 01:00:45.920
That combined rate is way up there and.

1058
01:00:46.280 --> 01:00:48.639
High as the state is what ten point nine stubbornly

1059
01:00:48.679 --> 01:00:49.119
it's been.

1060
01:00:49.239 --> 01:00:51.239
The top rate, Yeah, the top rate for the state

1061
01:00:51.599 --> 01:00:53.360
with the surcharge and all that, and then you get

1062
01:00:53.360 --> 01:00:56.119
the three point nine on top of it. So Zorn

1063
01:00:56.239 --> 01:00:59.400
was talking about going up two percent on the personal rate.

1064
01:00:59.760 --> 01:01:02.840
It's going to continue to make life more unaffordable for

1065
01:01:03.039 --> 01:01:07.440
New Yorkers, and it's going to drive out the you know,

1066
01:01:07.519 --> 01:01:11.360
the investment class, the higher or no questions owners the

1067
01:01:11.679 --> 01:01:15.400
city the city, and as a result, the state is

1068
01:01:15.559 --> 01:01:19.800
very reliant on financial the financial sector for revenue. It

1069
01:01:19.800 --> 01:01:21.920
makes a huge makes up a huge portion, which shifts

1070
01:01:21.960 --> 01:01:24.960
around a bit, makes up a huge portion of the

1071
01:01:25.000 --> 01:01:29.079
state's revenues and the city's revenues from from income taxes.

1072
01:01:29.119 --> 01:01:33.840
So when you drive those kinds of folks out, you're

1073
01:01:33.880 --> 01:01:37.280
putting your revenue base at risk, and you can degrade

1074
01:01:37.400 --> 01:01:41.239
the tax base very easily and the city's lost.

1075
01:01:41.599 --> 01:01:42.320
Uh.

1076
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Maybe it's hundreds of firms at this point that are

1077
01:01:45.880 --> 01:01:47.639
financial services, hedge funds.

1078
01:01:47.599 --> 01:01:50.079
The mess, the mass exit is there. You don't you

1079
01:01:50.119 --> 01:01:52.239
want you don't want to stand at the exits there

1080
01:01:52.239 --> 01:01:54.920
in New York. You're gonna run over. Uh, you know,

1081
01:01:54.960 --> 01:01:59.239
they're them like uh uh, you know, like California the

1082
01:01:59.239 --> 01:02:01.880
same way. You know, California for a number of years

1083
01:02:01.960 --> 01:02:07.079
was the number one rental state for you haul one way,

1084
01:02:07.800 --> 01:02:11.079
and it actually costs more to get out of town

1085
01:02:11.360 --> 01:02:13.360
with U haul than to bring a U haul back

1086
01:02:13.360 --> 01:02:14.400
to California.

1087
01:02:14.760 --> 01:02:20.239
Because yeah, yeah, it's it's very unfortunate for you know,

1088
01:02:20.280 --> 01:02:24.639
a once great city that to see this kind of degradation.

1089
01:02:24.880 --> 01:02:29.519
And it's not just Zoron unfortunately, the you know, Governor

1090
01:02:29.559 --> 01:02:32.119
Cuomo and Mayor Deblasia, and these folks have not done

1091
01:02:32.159 --> 01:02:34.079
a good job on the tax front. They had a

1092
01:02:34.119 --> 01:02:37.760
bunch of other punitive policies as well. But yeah, I mean,

1093
01:02:37.760 --> 01:02:40.960
when you increase the income tax that much, you're just

1094
01:02:41.039 --> 01:02:43.880
sending a clear message that you want people out of there.

1095
01:02:43.920 --> 01:02:46.119
I mean, the power to taxes, the power to destroy,

1096
01:02:46.559 --> 01:02:50.559
and they're aiming at destroying those high earners. And you know,

1097
01:02:50.639 --> 01:02:55.320
they can say those are just the rich, but you know,

1098
01:02:55.360 --> 01:02:59.000
in New York City having a million dollars is a

1099
01:02:59.039 --> 01:03:01.800
lot different than other parts of the country. And uh,

1100
01:03:01.960 --> 01:03:04.880
and then they're they're jeopardizing the tax base that is

1101
01:03:04.920 --> 01:03:08.440
supposed to pay for all their grand ideas. The bus is,

1102
01:03:08.519 --> 01:03:11.920
the you know, the universal pre k, the childcare, all

1103
01:03:11.960 --> 01:03:15.000
these all these ideas that get thrown around, uh, which

1104
01:03:15.039 --> 01:03:18.400
are if they're they're questionable ideas on their own, but

1105
01:03:18.800 --> 01:03:20.360
if you think you're going to be able to do

1106
01:03:20.440 --> 01:03:23.280
any of that, degrading the tax base puts all of

1107
01:03:23.320 --> 01:03:26.280
those grand plans at risk. And then so these are

1108
01:03:26.360 --> 01:03:29.239
unfortunately the types of folks will just steam forward regardless

1109
01:03:29.519 --> 01:03:33.760
and then put pressure, uh create pressure to raise other

1110
01:03:33.840 --> 01:03:38.159
taxes to try to compensate as they start missing revenue figures.

1111
01:03:38.199 --> 01:03:42.119
So you know, the personally of tax, extremely punitive proposal,

1112
01:03:43.079 --> 01:03:46.000
very bad ideas we see as people move to low

1113
01:03:46.079 --> 01:03:46.800
tax states.

1114
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Uh.

1115
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And on the migration, well, i'll.

1116
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Tell you what. We've got to go to break here.

1117
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But the thing that's ironic is you're you're trading off

1118
01:03:54.800 --> 01:03:58.719
people of wealth. People have created businesses and you're exchanging them,

1119
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you know, anywise for immigrants who are here illegally, and

1120
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you're dumping a ton of money, you know, to support

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that effort. So you know, somebody's got to do the

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mass somewhere. We got to go to a quick break.

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Welcome Back nineteen minutes after the top of the hour.

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01:09:20.079 --> 01:09:23.279
Bill Martinez here with Doug Kellogg ATRS New York State

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Project Director. You know you mentioned, you know, government run

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01:09:28.520 --> 01:09:33.520
grocery stores. I think last month one in Missouri, I

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think that was the only one that was left, or

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you know, maybe the only one that tried went out

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of business. And it was interesting because they were showing

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the shelves of this store. I don't know if you

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saw it or not. They had just a package of

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01:09:44.640 --> 01:09:47.399
hot dog buns on a shelf and the people outside going,

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01:09:47.560 --> 01:09:52.439
this doesn't work. Well, yeah, I mean, we've got hundreds

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01:09:52.439 --> 01:09:55.479
of years of empirical data that says this doesn't work.

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But I guess, you know, typical of all socialists, they

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01:09:58.560 --> 01:10:01.680
always say the same thing, either we didn't have enough

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01:10:01.680 --> 01:10:03.640
money or not enough time. If you just gave us

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01:10:03.680 --> 01:10:05.439
more money and more time, we'd proved to you that

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it works. And this has been going on for thousands

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of years. Seems like you know, another one of those boondoggles,

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01:10:11.880 --> 01:10:15.479
like you know, electrical mandated automobiles or something.

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01:10:16.640 --> 01:10:19.920
Well, absolutely, it's the evidence should be clear at this

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01:10:20.039 --> 01:10:23.680
point that is a terrible idea, but you know, they

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put they put a.

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New face on it.

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You know, Zoron is the new face of the socialism,

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Socialist idea, their project that keeps getting promoted, and you

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01:10:35.479 --> 01:10:40.439
know he's been working with the Congressman Alexandria Cassio Cortes

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and following the same playbook.

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01:10:41.760 --> 01:10:42.279
In the city.

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You know, the Democratic Socialist Party is extremely relevant and

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01:10:48.439 --> 01:10:51.439
powerful in New York City and they've had a lot

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01:10:51.479 --> 01:10:55.399
of candidates that they've endorsed in, including those two go

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01:10:55.479 --> 01:10:59.239
to the State Assembly like Zoron go to Congress in

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01:10:59.319 --> 01:11:03.000
these position in the city. So you know, I think

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01:11:03.359 --> 01:11:07.199
folks are from around the country looking in. You know,

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01:11:07.399 --> 01:11:11.840
this is a sign of the radicalization of younger people

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01:11:12.319 --> 01:11:16.680
and growth and power of you know, the actual Socialist

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01:11:16.760 --> 01:11:20.119
Party in some of these parts of the country, and

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01:11:20.479 --> 01:11:24.520
it is a valid, a very valid concern, and you know,

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01:11:24.560 --> 01:11:26.840
we need to continue to work to educate people. But

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01:11:27.079 --> 01:11:30.000
you know, like you said, the evidence is there is

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01:11:30.079 --> 01:11:32.479
It's not just simply going to be a question of

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01:11:32.760 --> 01:11:36.760
showing people the stats or some old pictures. If they're

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01:11:37.479 --> 01:11:41.079
buying into a more of a cult of personality here, right,

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You're going to have to do a little bit more

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to get through to them. But it's also very important

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01:11:46.640 --> 01:11:50.520
for you know, other states to protect themselves. I mean,

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01:11:50.520 --> 01:11:53.319
we need that federalist model to work, the state tax

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01:11:53.359 --> 01:11:56.159
competition to work, and the folks who are going the

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01:11:56.159 --> 01:12:00.279
wrong direction to learn that other states learned from them

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and avoid that. And we can kind of have the

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01:12:02.159 --> 01:12:05.520
submarine effect where hey, if one part of the submarine

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01:12:05.560 --> 01:12:08.239
is flooded, we don't just let the water go to

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01:12:08.279 --> 01:12:11.359
the entire submarine and sink the whole thing, right.

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01:12:11.560 --> 01:12:14.560
Because well that's but that's the thing that we find ourselves.

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01:12:14.600 --> 01:12:18.720
And it's like even like this this horrific accident that

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01:12:18.760 --> 01:12:22.439
occurred in Florida here last week, Doug, you know, what

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01:12:22.520 --> 01:12:25.279
happens in California doesn't stay in California. What happens in

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01:12:25.319 --> 01:12:27.119
some of these blue states, it doesn't stay in the

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01:12:27.119 --> 01:12:32.680
Blue states. You know, people go across state lines and

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01:12:33.560 --> 01:12:36.039
you know, they take their baggage with them, and that's

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01:12:36.119 --> 01:12:40.560
problematic and dangerous and lethal in some cases as we saw.

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01:12:41.439 --> 01:12:43.600
You know, the thing is what's happening with New York

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01:12:44.119 --> 01:12:47.039
is New York's going to be like if they continue

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01:12:47.039 --> 01:12:48.920
on this course, and you would think that they'd learned.

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01:12:49.039 --> 01:12:52.399
They would have learned with the Blasio, you know, the

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01:12:52.439 --> 01:12:54.800
same thing. I mean, he was kind of like socialist light.

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01:12:56.319 --> 01:12:58.840
Mamdani is the Hey, I'm full on out of the closet.

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01:12:59.000 --> 01:13:02.199
You know, we're just you know, going full communists here

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01:13:02.279 --> 01:13:04.479
in New York. And what's going to happen is tourists

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01:13:04.479 --> 01:13:05.880
are going to go to New York if they can

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01:13:05.920 --> 01:13:08.359
be safe again. Maybe I don't know if that's possible

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01:13:09.319 --> 01:13:12.119
under a Mumdani administration, but if they go to New York,

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01:13:12.279 --> 01:13:13.880
then it's going to be like going to the zoo,

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01:13:14.560 --> 01:13:16.960
you know, because you'll go out there without the cages.

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01:13:17.000 --> 01:13:19.399
You know, the animals are running, you know, rampant, and

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01:13:19.439 --> 01:13:21.600
you'll be able to look at the state of New

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01:13:21.680 --> 01:13:25.680
York sadly in a different perspective of, you know, what

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01:13:25.720 --> 01:13:29.600
you shouldn't do in the governance of your local communities.

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01:13:30.880 --> 01:13:32.000
Yeah.

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Absolutely, And you know, with with this has been a

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bit of a slow boil, and I think it's at

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01:13:38.960 --> 01:13:42.319
least now there is national interest and focus on what's

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01:13:42.319 --> 01:13:45.800
going on because Zoron is very openly socialist.

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You mentioned, you know, Deblasio.

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01:13:48.079 --> 01:13:52.239
The mayor two mayors ago, remember Mayor Deblasio started all

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01:13:52.279 --> 01:13:56.319
sorts of punitive nanny state policies. Businesses, you could get

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01:13:56.439 --> 01:13:58.560
hundreds of thousand dollars in fine for using the wrong

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01:13:58.600 --> 01:14:02.920
pronouns for somebody could put you out of business. So he's,

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01:14:03.239 --> 01:14:06.800
you know, an evolved version of this. And this is

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01:14:06.840 --> 01:14:09.800
the problem you were talking about people leaving. One of

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the challenges is that people who are productive do leave.

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I mean, you'll hear stats from Zoron about how the

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01:14:15.279 --> 01:14:18.199
millionaires don't leave or something. You know, first of all,

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01:14:18.199 --> 01:14:21.520
that's one time period. Also, people who make a modest

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01:14:21.680 --> 01:14:26.199
to decent income are leaving. Nor people are leaving the state.

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01:14:26.439 --> 01:14:29.880
The types of people who feel the pain and would

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01:14:30.520 --> 01:14:34.159
maybe change their voting pattern, they're just going. And that's

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01:14:34.239 --> 01:14:37.319
why you see the effect where you say, why isn't

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01:14:37.359 --> 01:14:40.000
anybody learning the lesson? A lot of people who learn

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01:14:40.079 --> 01:14:43.439
the lesson left and that has been helpful because we've

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01:14:43.439 --> 01:14:46.560
seen the massive growth in a state like Florida, Texas

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01:14:47.000 --> 01:14:49.560
and the politics haven't changed that much because you are

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01:14:49.600 --> 01:14:51.840
getting a lot of people who did learn the lesson,

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01:14:51.880 --> 01:14:55.640
So there are a lesson that's where they're going. Zoran

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01:14:55.840 --> 01:14:57.880
I do want to mention a second proposal on the

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01:14:57.920 --> 01:15:00.800
corporate income tax because it showed knows how much he's

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01:15:00.880 --> 01:15:03.239
not learning the lesson, because he's going on TV and

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01:15:03.319 --> 01:15:07.319
saying we should match New Jersey's corporate income tax rate.

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01:15:07.760 --> 01:15:10.479
If they can make it work, why can't we make

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01:15:10.520 --> 01:15:13.520
it work. New Jersey doesn't make it work. New Jersey

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01:15:13.760 --> 01:15:16.439
is the highest corporate income tax rate in the nation.

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They have an additional searcharge on top of the normal rate,

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01:15:20.319 --> 01:15:22.119
you know, to fudge exactly how high the.

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01:15:22.039 --> 01:15:22.840
Total rate is.

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01:15:23.199 --> 01:15:25.199
And people are leaving New Jersey. And New Jersey used

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01:15:25.239 --> 01:15:28.319
to have twenty two fortune five hundred companies a few

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01:15:28.359 --> 01:15:31.720
years ago, and that's down to fifteen maybe less. We

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01:15:31.800 --> 01:15:34.840
have a great Assembly minority leader in the Republican side,

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01:15:34.920 --> 01:15:37.760
John Demeyo in New Jersey's fighting this stuff and likes

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01:15:37.800 --> 01:15:40.079
to remind people of that. And he will tell Zoran

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01:15:40.119 --> 01:15:42.880
if he calls him, how the corporate income tax rate

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01:15:43.199 --> 01:15:47.399
is not working at work. They are losing businesses and people,

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01:15:47.439 --> 01:15:50.319
and New York is losing businesses and people, and the

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01:15:50.920 --> 01:15:53.760
rest of the country, the low tax states are the

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01:15:53.800 --> 01:15:58.720
ones gaining. So you know, hopefully he will learn that

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01:15:58.840 --> 01:16:01.640
lesson at some point. He talking about how he's guided

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01:16:01.680 --> 01:16:04.880
by facts. But maybe that's just that's just a slogan

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01:16:04.920 --> 01:16:06.960
because the facts you and I are talking about in

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01:16:07.000 --> 01:16:10.159
the history, uh, would would lead him in a different direction.

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01:16:10.479 --> 01:16:13.439
Well, we already know the left, I don't know. They

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01:16:13.520 --> 01:16:18.079
must be a product of the public school system because

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01:16:18.079 --> 01:16:22.199
they don't know how to do math. Anytime numbers come in, Uh,

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01:16:22.439 --> 01:16:25.119
they're they're screwballing. I mean it's that old fuzzy mass

1352
01:16:25.119 --> 01:16:27.199
stuff that they come up with and you go, well,

1353
01:16:27.199 --> 01:16:30.840
wait a minute, where where's the data here? Uh, you know,

1354
01:16:31.000 --> 01:16:34.880
to support this when we've got empirical data that says

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01:16:35.119 --> 01:16:38.000
this isn't going this isn't going to work. Uh, you know,

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01:16:38.000 --> 01:16:39.479
we got a couple of minutes left here, Doug, and

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01:16:39.520 --> 01:16:42.600
I did want to ask you, bottom line, does this

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01:16:42.960 --> 01:16:43.319
does this?

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01:16:43.560 --> 01:16:43.760
Uh?

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01:16:44.399 --> 01:16:48.279
Is this a blue state versus red state? Uh? You

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01:16:48.319 --> 01:16:50.640
know type of conclusion.

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01:16:51.800 --> 01:16:54.840
Yeah, Well, you're you're you're you're asking a great question.

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01:16:55.039 --> 01:16:57.399
And one of the things you said before is very

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01:16:57.439 --> 01:17:02.199
important to that point as well, that with the Left

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01:17:02.199 --> 01:17:06.039
and the Democrats, there's a pipeline of bad policy and

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01:17:06.439 --> 01:17:09.520
because they're having so much trouble in the states that

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01:17:09.600 --> 01:17:13.039
pipeline is you know, the New York City, the Chicago

1368
01:17:13.159 --> 01:17:17.680
to Congress pipeline. These bad ideas start getting proposed in Congress,

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01:17:17.680 --> 01:17:19.680
they are going to be forced on the entire country

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01:17:20.399 --> 01:17:23.640
because when they do these experiments more locally and in

1371
01:17:23.680 --> 01:17:26.199
their state, everybody leaves and it fails.

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01:17:27.119 --> 01:17:28.039
And then that gets the.

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01:17:28.000 --> 01:17:31.079
Point you're making that, you know, blue state versus Red state.

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01:17:31.119 --> 01:17:34.800
It's funny we talk about the competition, and I think

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01:17:34.800 --> 01:17:37.239
we're at the point there is no competition. I mean,

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01:17:37.399 --> 01:17:40.920
the Red states are so clearly winning on every front.

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01:17:41.079 --> 01:17:43.640
And you know we're not talking about education. Example, you

1378
01:17:43.680 --> 01:17:47.880
mentioned the public schools, though the education systems in Republican

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01:17:47.920 --> 01:17:49.920
states to state like Mississippi that has made.

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01:17:49.800 --> 01:17:52.319
Huge strides are doing better.

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01:17:52.600 --> 01:17:55.119
Florida's another great example over the past twenty years where

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01:17:55.119 --> 01:17:58.840
their education results are getting better because they're free to

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01:17:59.000 --> 01:18:02.000
experiment and not just stick with the same old big

1384
01:18:02.039 --> 01:18:05.960
top down, big government teachers union approach which has failed.

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01:18:06.359 --> 01:18:10.319
So there is no competition anymore. The Red states are winning.

1386
01:18:10.399 --> 01:18:16.159
It's the Los Angeles Dodgers versus the Steubenville Mudhas or whatever.

1387
01:18:16.239 --> 01:18:17.720
You know, they're not in the same league.

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01:18:18.159 --> 01:18:22.279
Right, Red states have won, which is why I think

1389
01:18:22.279 --> 01:18:26.479
we're getting to a very dangerous point with the quote

1390
01:18:26.520 --> 01:18:30.800
unquote competition where the left sees Congress and the federal

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01:18:30.800 --> 01:18:33.840
government is the most important thing where they can push

1392
01:18:33.880 --> 01:18:37.479
those ideas top down. We've heard a lot about redistricting

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01:18:37.520 --> 01:18:41.279
as an example, because the red states are growing fair

1394
01:18:41.319 --> 01:18:45.880
and square, productive, people who pay taxes are moving out

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01:18:45.920 --> 01:18:48.039
of the big blue states and they're going to friendly

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01:18:48.159 --> 01:18:52.319
or red states, and so we see significant gains projected

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01:18:52.319 --> 01:18:56.439
in the next sent census for a number of red states,

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01:18:56.520 --> 01:18:59.920
especially Florida and Texas. That exactly the balance of how

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01:19:00.199 --> 01:19:03.119
in the US House. And so you know, it's all

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01:19:03.159 --> 01:19:07.560
now a game about who can redistrict faster and sooner

1401
01:19:07.600 --> 01:19:10.720
and try to try to cover for their losses. And

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01:19:11.000 --> 01:19:13.880
that's that's what the Democrats have been focused. You know,

1403
01:19:13.880 --> 01:19:16.840
they don't have a plan for long term competition. They

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01:19:16.960 --> 01:19:19.399
just have a plan for short term power.

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01:19:20.079 --> 01:19:22.000
Well, Doug Kellogg, thank you so much for coming on.

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01:19:23.000 --> 01:19:26.119
Douglas with Americas for Tax Reform, and I would definitely

1407
01:19:26.159 --> 01:19:29.720
recommend checking out the website atr dot org Cutting Taxes

1408
01:19:29.760 --> 01:19:32.359
across America. There's the map right there and things we

1409
01:19:32.359 --> 01:19:35.239
were talking about the explanation. You see the various states

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01:19:35.279 --> 01:19:38.479
and the percentages, and also you guys have been so

1411
01:19:38.600 --> 01:19:41.600
kind to give us a little progress report to say, Okay,

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01:19:41.680 --> 01:19:45.039
how are these respective states doing. And so for some

1413
01:19:45.079 --> 01:19:47.880
of you in these states, like for example, Kentucky, you

1414
01:19:47.920 --> 01:19:49.479
know they're going to go to four to three and

1415
01:19:49.479 --> 01:19:52.600
a half percent. They're already at a flat rate when

1416
01:19:52.640 --> 01:19:55.680
it comes to bracket reduction, you know, and that's going

1417
01:19:55.760 --> 01:19:59.680
to save taxpayers. They're a seven hundred and eighteen million dollars.

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01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:01.640
I mean, we're talking a lot of lettuce here.

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01:20:01.600 --> 01:20:03.319
Right absolutely.

1420
01:20:03.359 --> 01:20:07.600
Look with the states, it's the savings from each tax

1421
01:20:07.640 --> 01:20:12.319
cut is significant. It's also that we're sending a message

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01:20:12.640 --> 01:20:14.439
that we're continuing to.

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Cut the tax.

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Where our state is a friendly environment, we're going to

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a flat tax, which is easier to defend from tax increases.

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We have the plan to go to zeros. We take

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in additional money, even if it takes a while. That's

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the direction our state is going, and we're going to

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protect your pocketbook. It also acts as a secondary spending

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cap because when we take in more money than we

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need to operate what we said we're going to do

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in the next last budget, plan. We're putting taxpayers first.

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So the automatic cuts mean taxpayers come first. They don't

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have to compete with lobbying interests in the state capitol.

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When they're flush with cash, right their money back, they

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get that automatic tax cut. It's not just a gimmicky rebate.

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It's a permanent tax relief. And that sends a strong

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message for people moving in that they can have confidence

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that that's the direction their state government is going and

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they're not just going to show up every budget cycle

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see the numbers looking scary, see a deficit, or spend

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all the extra money on their friends and keep growing

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government and keep raising that bar of what people have

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to fund in the future. So it's been it's been revolutionary,

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and you know, we're proud to be working on that

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and helping move that ball forward.

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It's going to a great job, great job.

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I mean it's almost like designed accountability, you know. So

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for the taxpayers, I mean, they're they're cheering this on.

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Doug Kellogg ATRS New York State Project Director, Doug appreciate

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all the information and for coming on the show. Take care,

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have a great day.

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Nutrition for Patriots, Welcome morning, Welcome, good to have you

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with us.

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We've got Ovi Mahali going to be joining us in

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just a few monitos, So stay with us here as

1513
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we get all off and rolling here because we're gonna

1514
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be talking about not only football, but we're gonna talk

1515
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about tailgating and all the essentials that are so important.

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But before we do that, if you can humor me

1517
01:25:16.520 --> 01:25:20.760
for just a moment. I mean, I mean, here it is,

1518
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with your award winning background and all that you did

1519
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as a fullback for the Falcons and Baltimore Ravens and

1520
01:25:29.359 --> 01:25:32.800
at Wake Forest and all. I mean, these kids are

1521
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big and fast these days. What is going on? What

1522
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are they feeding these kids out there in that football field?

1523
01:25:38.760 --> 01:25:42.680
I do not know, but I'm actually happy that these

1524
01:25:42.720 --> 01:25:45.479
big and fast kids are playing in a much safer

1525
01:25:45.920 --> 01:25:49.800
NFL college and high school because when I played, we

1526
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were big and fast, and we were told to stay

1527
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in the game if we act incussion. We were told

1528
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to play through the worst injuries. And now the game

1529
01:25:59.279 --> 01:26:01.800
is becoming a lot. I mean, they had three days

1530
01:26:01.840 --> 01:26:05.000
before I got there, then two days, and now they

1531
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have like one a day.

1532
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They don't have two days anymore that Falcons practice.

1533
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And I was just just, you know, dumbfounded talking to

1534
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Arthur Blank and Rich McKay used to be the GM

1535
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when he brought me, and I now I believe he's

1536
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president or something, but he's on the rules committee at

1537
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the highest level. He was talking about how there's less

1538
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goal line, there's less contact. There's a camera up there

1539
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that actually watches to make sure there's not more than

1540
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a certain amount of contact. So these kids are getting

1541
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bgger and faster. But luckily the game is scaling back

1542
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on the violence.

1543
01:26:35.319 --> 01:26:36.119
So that's a good thing.

1544
01:26:36.159 --> 01:26:38.760
I guess, well, I guess it is. You know, we

1545
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love the game, we love our players. We want everybody

1546
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to be safe. When something tragic happens on the field,

1547
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we're all taking a knee, we're all praying. You know

1548
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that everything is well. And you know, again, I know

1549
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the league has been doing everything it can to maintain

1550
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the safety because I mean, like you said, the season

1551
01:26:59.720 --> 01:27:03.520
is banded. Yeah, you know, you've got more games involved,

1552
01:27:03.560 --> 01:27:05.119
and uh there's a lot going on.

1553
01:27:05.640 --> 01:27:07.279
Oh yeah, a lot going on it. And don't get

1554
01:27:07.279 --> 01:27:09.600
me started on that. They're like, we gotta make it safer.

1555
01:27:09.800 --> 01:27:10.359
Let's add more.

1556
01:27:10.359 --> 01:27:12.239
We're game because of the money, I mean, because we

1557
01:27:12.680 --> 01:27:14.640
because we want football, Like, wait, how can you make

1558
01:27:14.680 --> 01:27:16.800
it safe? But you're adding more game like we took

1559
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away a preseason game, but no one plays hard.

1560
01:27:20.000 --> 01:27:20.800
Don't get me started.

1561
01:27:20.840 --> 01:27:25.039
So yeah, I feel like, yeah, well, well you know,

1562
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I just say I feel you ob I just do.

1563
01:27:27.319 --> 01:27:30.560
I mean, I came from an athletic family. I just

1564
01:27:30.640 --> 01:27:33.000
you know, you see the season and you see what's

1565
01:27:33.039 --> 01:27:34.840
going on with these athletes, and a lot of people

1566
01:27:34.840 --> 01:27:37.199
don't understand, you know, the wear and tear on their

1567
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bodies and everything else, and especially in a situation like

1568
01:27:40.560 --> 01:27:44.399
the NFL. Anyway, let's talk about take a breath, and

1569
01:27:44.479 --> 01:27:45.640
let's talk about tailgating.

1570
01:27:45.760 --> 01:27:47.000
Huh, let's do it.

1571
01:27:47.119 --> 01:27:50.119
Okay, So how about it. What's the secret for a

1572
01:27:50.199 --> 01:27:51.279
successful tailgate?

1573
01:27:51.680 --> 01:27:51.880
Now?

1574
01:27:52.000 --> 01:27:54.039
Bill, if I told you the secret, it wouldn't be

1575
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a secret, but I'm gonna tell you anyway because we're afraid.

1576
01:27:56.319 --> 01:27:57.199
Thank you.

1577
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So you know about my.

1578
01:27:58.000 --> 01:28:02.159
NFL crew was was it was a blessing playing at

1579
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the highest level with so many people who excellence was

1580
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a standard, and I feel like the attention to detail

1581
01:28:08.520 --> 01:28:10.640
is what made them so good. So for me when

1582
01:28:10.640 --> 01:28:14.079
I tailgate, I want to make sure that we take

1583
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care of the details.

1584
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We also we have.

1585
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Fun and get creative. So I'm gonna do that with

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you guys right now.

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Okay, all right, So let's talk about the best ice

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guys or the majority of the public. I want something

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that's kind of different. I was the beer and bourbon guy.

1594
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Me and my fellows like beverages, beer, bourbon, We're fine.

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1608
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The first time I had Rayvern was in New York,

1609
01:29:24.039 --> 01:29:27.640
of all places. I'm a and I'm a California boy, right, Okay,

1610
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So so go figure. But yeah, rayburn doesn't matter what

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city you're in. It's that's that's a great and the

1612
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cab is excellent. Right, Okay, let's talk about atmosphere, all right,

1613
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So how do we set the atmosphere for the perfect party?

1614
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You gotta set the mood bill for the perfect party,

1615
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and for me, personalization wins the party. And you can

1616
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1617
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Now, do the kids let you deal with the cricket

1628
01:30:24.600 --> 01:30:25.279
by yourself?

1629
01:30:25.399 --> 01:30:28.479
Or well, I don't let them do it by themselves

1630
01:30:28.479 --> 01:30:31.079
because it's safe, but it's still like an exact a

1631
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knife on steroids. So it's something that I want to

1632
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make sure I'm around. But if I'm supervising them, they

1633
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can still make some amazing things.

1634
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In that incredible I mean, the genius behind that is

1635
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unbelievable And as you said, it adds to the atmosphere.

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What about new tech gaing.

1637
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in my basement in my house, that's one of the

1639
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1640
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1641
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1652
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1653
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1654
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Huh?

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When you're raised with that kind of name, you've got

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Well, we're down to a few seconds left here, Oby,

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I can't thank you enough for your time. Congratulations with

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There it is. It's just that simple. Obe Mahaley has

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Huh you too, Bill, Thank you, you got it all right.

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plugged in dot com. Mister Adam, I you doing, buddy, Bill?

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I am great?

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How are you this morning?

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Hey? I'm excited. I mean here we are celebrating another

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labor day by the grace of God and his mercy.

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You know, labor is a good thing. I mean labor

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is a good thing. I mean it's sordained by God.

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It's in our DNA. When we violate labor. It doesn't

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go well for us, and politicians try to make it

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more than what it's all about. It's pretty basic, isn't it.

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If you just yea God says yeah.

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I mean, I think that God has designed us, as

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you said, to work. And as much as we sometimes

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may think of work as you know, something less than

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a gift from God, it gives us purpose, you know,

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it gives us a sense of what life is about.

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It's not the entirety of our identity, but certainly we

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see the price that society pays when work is not

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available and people lose hope and there's despair, and there's

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you know, I think especially for men, you know, when

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there's not work to do, bad things happen, right, Yeah, exactly.

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Yeah, It's an issue of productivity. You know, at the

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end of the day, you want to feel like, hey,

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I either earned my way and I earned my paycheck

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or that I did something of value today. And when

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you're not and you're caught up. I mean it's one

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thing that if you have economic conditions and you know,

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you have some sort of depression, and you know, all

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these businesses collapse in one deal or another. But even then,

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you know, you try to, you scramble, and you do

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what you can in order to get back to work.

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It's kind of like an old pastor friend of mine

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used to say that when you're out of work, you

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still have forty hours of work to do, and that

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forty hours now has changed from the job you were

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doing to forty hours of looking for a job.

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Right, No, that's exactly right. And so you know, back

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to your original point, I'm thankful that God ordained meaningful work.

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And if we go back to Genesis, you know what

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was the job that was given to Adam and Eve. Well,

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it was to name the animals and to rule and

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reign over creation. And so there was an established order there.

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And I think as much as I sometimes in my

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youth and maybe even later wanted to push against this, order,

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begets order.

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Right.

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When we're bringing order and discipline to our world, it

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spills over and we get momentum in other important areas.

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And when there's chaos, chaos tends to spill over and

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eat into other things too. So as much as I

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sometimes in a maybe a romantic sense, wish that that

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weren't the case, the reality is that God is a

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god of order, right, and there's a design for things,

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and when we violate that design across the board, you know,

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with from his intended design, it doesn't go well for us.

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Yeah, I say, it's like violating gravity, right, I think

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most which you don't actually do.

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Right's Wiley Coyote, right, exactly exactly.

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But you know, you get people who think, okay, maybe

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I can test the boundaries here and uh and they

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find out the hard way. But uh, you know, even atheists, uh,

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you know, because it's one of those things. You know,

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the rain will fall on the righteous and unrighteous, and

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gravity the same way. But you have to realize what

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is the source of the rain, what's the source? Who's

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the one that uh you know gave us gravity? Who

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created it? And what I love? It's been the past

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couple of weeks again this is it kind of cycles

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every I don't know, five or six years. I think

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God says, okay, it's time, let's go back to the

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classroom and realize once again that I did create this

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from nothing, by the way, from it, you know, and

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you think about it and you get all these other

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you know, theorists who come out and you know they

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have these ideas and you know, like they're the grand

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creators and stuff and goes. Not really, you might be

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an assembler because the creator has already created it and

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you're his stuff to assemble to claim some sort of

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you know, creative genius.

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Right, right, And when we design anything, I would argue

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that we're reflecting our created nature as beings who are

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created in the image of God. Right, that that we

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have a designer, and we have a creator, and we're

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hardwired to design and create, which this is Okay, I'm

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going to.

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Take a left turn here a little bit.

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Put you put my blinker on signal, look over my shoulder.

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It's one of my concerns about the AI revolution is

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that is it going to short circuit the impulse to

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create When creating suddenly becomes it seems easier, and you know,

1889
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maybe we'll look back on this time and say, yeah,

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it never could get to where we actually are as

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01:43:47.479 --> 01:43:49.680
humans and we recognize it for what it is. But

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but I think it's human nature. I mean, I'm dealing

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with this with my kids. You know, if there's a

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shortcut to take, like chat GPT doing your paper for you,

1895
01:44:01.239 --> 01:44:05.880
if there aren't sufficient consequences pushing back against it, most

1896
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people most of the time are going to take the shortcut,

1897
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you know, and you.

1898
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Don't want to be you don't want to be like

1899
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a former president or vice president that you know, plagiarized

1900
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and you know, try to cut corners and cheat your

1901
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way through because guess what people find out right?

1902
01:44:22.880 --> 01:44:25.960
Well, and the thing is with all this AI stuff,

1903
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I mean, what is not What is AI if not

1904
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a giant plagiarism bought? Oh you know, and I actually

1905
01:44:33.279 --> 01:44:35.199
that just sort of popped into my head. I haven't

1906
01:44:35.239 --> 01:44:37.199
heard anybody frame it that way. You know, we call

1907
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it large language modelers. I'm like, well, we used to

1908
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just call it plagiarism because you were stealing something that

1909
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you didn't create exactly. And I don't want to sound

1910
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like an old fuddy day. I think that there will

1911
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be enormous in its insignificant gains from AI, but but

1912
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I'm worried about what it does to us, not only economically,

1913
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but ethically and morally. And so I think we as Christians, again,

1914
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we understand our mandate to rule and reign, to create,

1915
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to design, and there's still going to be a place

1916
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for us. I think if I were the benevolent ruler

1917
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of things, I would say, you got to put a

1918
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you know, a label on everything created by AI, saying

1919
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this was created by A.

1920
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That's what people are doing, I mean, and we have

1921
01:45:24.520 --> 01:45:26.479
to be careful is that we don't enter into the

1922
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realm of Babbel. And that's the temptation here. But I

1923
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believe and I trust in God in such a way.

1924
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And like you said, initially, is the design is there.

1925
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When we're faithful to that design in the guardrails, it

1926
01:45:41.079 --> 01:45:43.520
goes well for us, that's all. When we violate that,

1927
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then we get into troubles and then you get all

1928
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these other unintended consequences. Try to short circuit the deal.

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And God doesn't doesn't deal well with it because I mean,

1930
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he doesn't even have to deal with it because the

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system itself, you know, holds it into account, doesn't.

1932
01:45:59.720 --> 01:46:05.359
It creates that sort of inbuilt accountability. So, you know,

1933
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speaking of inbuilt accountability, when you have a shark that

1934
01:46:10.359 --> 01:46:13.800
goes crazy, what do you do, well, you need Roy Scheider, right.

1935
01:46:14.079 --> 01:46:17.840
And that's right because you need Jaws's back.

1936
01:46:18.279 --> 01:46:19.079
Jaws is back.

1937
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Transition on that, I mean from nineteen seventy five. You know,

1938
01:46:23.399 --> 01:46:25.600
for those of you that missed it, the first time, right,

1939
01:46:25.960 --> 01:46:28.640
you know, here we got that thumping bass sound that's gonna,

1940
01:46:29.000 --> 01:46:31.439
you know, get keep you up at night.

1941
01:46:31.920 --> 01:46:35.640
You know, I actually I missed it in the sense

1942
01:46:35.720 --> 01:46:38.119
that I never saw it in the theater. I'm actually

1943
01:46:38.560 --> 01:46:41.439
thinking about checking it out in theaters this weekend. And

1944
01:46:41.520 --> 01:46:44.520
again some people say, I'm going to tie all this

1945
01:46:44.680 --> 01:46:45.239
together here.

1946
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You watch what I do here.

1947
01:46:47.439 --> 01:46:50.119
There are those who say, and I think rightly, so,

1948
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Jaws is really the first modern summer blockbuster. You know,

1949
01:46:55.399 --> 01:46:57.239
we can look at Star Wars and you know, a

1950
01:46:57.279 --> 01:46:59.560
couple of years later we had Raiders Lost Arc But.

1951
01:46:59.720 --> 01:47:04.119
I in line for three hours for that movie, Man Man.

1952
01:47:04.119 --> 01:47:08.039
And so, you know, as we think about the creatives

1953
01:47:08.119 --> 01:47:11.920
in our culture, what Steven Spielberg brought to bear on

1954
01:47:12.079 --> 01:47:16.359
the realm of cinema was and is remarkable. It doesn't mean,

1955
01:47:16.479 --> 01:47:18.880
you know, everything he's ever done gets a total pass,

1956
01:47:19.000 --> 01:47:22.760
but he was a man and is a man of

1957
01:47:23.159 --> 01:47:27.760
I think tremendous cinematic vision and man, if you haven't

1958
01:47:27.800 --> 01:47:31.000
seen Jaws, it's one of the interesting things I will

1959
01:47:31.079 --> 01:47:33.680
note is that it was rated PG, and it would

1960
01:47:33.680 --> 01:47:36.520
not be rated PG today. And it as much as

1961
01:47:36.560 --> 01:47:41.199
we think, you know, society is just going to seed boy,

1962
01:47:41.439 --> 01:47:43.800
some of the stuff that got rated PG in the seventies.

1963
01:47:43.840 --> 01:47:46.279
You're like, WHOA, I guess I didn't care about the

1964
01:47:46.399 --> 01:47:47.199
children back.

1965
01:47:47.079 --> 01:47:49.680
Then, you know, and then and and and they weren't

1966
01:47:49.800 --> 01:47:51.600
very pronounced sensitive either.

1967
01:47:52.840 --> 01:47:57.079
Jaws, she doesn't matter. And so we have a review

1968
01:47:57.159 --> 01:47:59.800
of Jaws up from nineteen seventy five that we posted.

1969
01:47:59.840 --> 01:48:02.479
I saw that what plugged in has to say about

1970
01:48:03.359 --> 01:48:05.800
the granddaddy of monster fish movies.

1971
01:48:06.199 --> 01:48:08.319
Well, when you go to the movie to watch it

1972
01:48:08.399 --> 01:48:11.199
in the big screen with all the audience and everything,

1973
01:48:11.520 --> 01:48:13.560
make sure you bring earplugs because there's gonna be lots

1974
01:48:13.600 --> 01:48:14.079
of screaming.

1975
01:48:14.479 --> 01:48:15.880
I think there probably will be.

1976
01:48:16.279 --> 01:48:18.319
I mean not since the Beatles, you know, so I

1977
01:48:18.399 --> 01:48:21.399
need a bigger theater probably, Yeah, without a doubt. Yeah,

1978
01:48:21.680 --> 01:48:23.239
it's kind of interesting. This is kind of like a

1979
01:48:23.319 --> 01:48:26.239
da Javou weekend because you also have the movie The

1980
01:48:26.359 --> 01:48:30.319
Roses that you are that you're viewing, which is interesting.

1981
01:48:30.359 --> 01:48:32.920
I mean they call it a comedy, right in a

1982
01:48:33.119 --> 01:48:38.039
dark combination dark? Yeah, I guess that. Yeah, it's just bizarre.

1983
01:48:38.079 --> 01:48:40.359
Well, and it's based on the War of the Roses,

1984
01:48:40.359 --> 01:48:42.680
which came out in nineteen eighty nine, which was based

1985
01:48:42.720 --> 01:48:44.720
on a book that came out in nineteen eighty two,

1986
01:48:44.920 --> 01:48:47.319
and it's a family whose last name is Rose by

1987
01:48:47.359 --> 01:48:51.039
the Way, and it really is a cautionary tale about

1988
01:48:51.159 --> 01:48:54.920
how in marriage, when you don't deal with things as

1989
01:48:54.960 --> 01:48:58.279
you go, they can stack up and resentments turn into

1990
01:48:58.319 --> 01:49:01.840
bitterness and that can lead in a really dark direction.

1991
01:49:02.000 --> 01:49:04.199
And so even though there is some content here to

1992
01:49:04.279 --> 01:49:10.039
reckon with, definitely Benedict Cummerbatch and Olivia Coleman do a

1993
01:49:10.119 --> 01:49:13.279
remarkable job I think depicting a marriage coming apart at

1994
01:49:13.319 --> 01:49:16.560
the seams, and those of us who've been married a while,

1995
01:49:16.640 --> 01:49:19.000
you know, sometimes maybe we need a little case study

1996
01:49:19.119 --> 01:49:21.039
and okay, this is what happens.

1997
01:49:21.600 --> 01:49:25.439
Well, this will slap you in the face. Yeah yeah,

1998
01:49:25.479 --> 01:49:28.479
this will definitely you know, slap you back into reality.

1999
01:49:29.199 --> 01:49:32.039
Of course, all the attorneys are looking this is a win,

2000
01:49:32.239 --> 01:49:36.039
a wind profit potential, because divorce rates are going to

2001
01:49:36.199 --> 01:49:38.960
increase after watching this stuff, and they're going to go, oh,

2002
01:49:39.199 --> 01:49:43.119
I see those little fighting satirical barbs you've been thrown

2003
01:49:43.159 --> 01:49:45.920
at me. Is actually we're down the yellow brick road

2004
01:49:46.039 --> 01:49:49.199
for d I v O RCEE right right now, that's right.

2005
01:49:49.279 --> 01:49:51.520
I mean, I I think of the times I drive

2006
01:49:51.600 --> 01:49:54.239
by billboards that say no cost divorce.

2007
01:49:54.640 --> 01:49:56.600
I'm like, well, in whose world?

2008
01:49:56.760 --> 01:49:57.520
In whose world?

2009
01:49:57.720 --> 01:50:01.319
Because you know, obviously, again going back to our previous conversation,

2010
01:50:02.560 --> 01:50:08.239
God did not design covenantal relationships to be disposable, right,

2011
01:50:08.640 --> 01:50:11.640
And we see as Christians, we see marriage not as

2012
01:50:11.680 --> 01:50:14.279
a contract, but as a covenant. It's you know, this

2013
01:50:14.479 --> 01:50:19.960
is a hallowed vow that we make. And you know

2014
01:50:20.119 --> 01:50:22.199
it's all fine and well and good when you're twenty

2015
01:50:22.239 --> 01:50:25.039
two and you're starry eyed and love to say for Richard,

2016
01:50:25.079 --> 01:50:27.800
for poorer and sickness and health, you know, till death

2017
01:50:27.880 --> 01:50:32.560
do us part. But my in laws, my father in

2018
01:50:32.680 --> 01:50:36.520
law is really on the verge of succumbing to Alzheimer's,

2019
01:50:36.600 --> 01:50:38.720
and just to watch my mother in law care for

2020
01:50:38.880 --> 01:50:43.000
him over these last couple of years has been remarkable, right,

2021
01:50:43.119 --> 01:50:46.039
And I don't want to be a downer, but that

2022
01:50:46.479 --> 01:50:49.520
is the dignity I think that God invites us to

2023
01:50:50.159 --> 01:50:53.000
bring to marriage and to receive the benefits and the

2024
01:50:53.039 --> 01:50:57.079
goodness of it, but to sacrificially serve and love in

2025
01:50:57.199 --> 01:50:58.199
those hard moments too.

2026
01:50:59.000 --> 01:51:03.039
And that is such a a personal example and a

2027
01:51:03.159 --> 01:51:07.319
reflection of their marriage, and what a model sixty five years.

2028
01:51:07.640 --> 01:51:11.079
Everybody else from the family to watch that kind of

2029
01:51:11.720 --> 01:51:15.359
you know, that kind of servanthood. Uh, you know, it's uh,

2030
01:51:16.479 --> 01:51:19.680
it's beyond touching. It's remarks what's happened in families, and

2031
01:51:19.920 --> 01:51:24.520
it's it's precious. Yeah, so uh, you know, God bless them,

2032
01:51:24.720 --> 01:51:27.920
you know, everybody called Yeah exactly, Well, we got to

2033
01:51:28.000 --> 01:51:32.159
leave it there as always have a great labor day, weekend,

2034
01:51:32.359 --> 01:51:35.319
enjoy you you do too, and everything like that. Uh,

2035
01:51:35.840 --> 01:51:37.760
don't forget the ear plugs for the Jaws movie.

2036
01:51:37.920 --> 01:51:38.199
Jaws.

2037
01:51:38.359 --> 01:51:41.000
Yep, let's go see Jaws and see, uh see if

2038
01:51:41.000 --> 01:51:42.039
it still works for us or not.

2039
01:51:42.119 --> 01:51:43.119
I guess it's a four K.

2040
01:51:43.439 --> 01:51:43.600
You know.

2041
01:51:43.720 --> 01:51:46.640
They put sprinkled some digital fairy dust on it, so

2042
01:51:46.800 --> 01:51:48.359
maybe it'll be even scarier.

2043
01:51:49.520 --> 01:51:53.000
Without. Adam All from plugged in dot Com. Thank you buddy,

2044
01:51:53.039 --> 01:51:54.119
Take care, Thanks Bill.

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