Aug. 26, 2025

The Bill Martinez Show 08 26 25

The Bill Martinez Show 08 26 25
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The Bill Martinez Show 08 26 25
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Are you ready?

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Yeah, Okay, let's do it.

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Ill Martinez Live a program about current events, our culture,

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our values, our politics, and our future.

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And now Bill Martinez.

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Wel good morning America. Six minutes after the top of

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the are Bill Martinez here, and we've got doctor John

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Lott joining us. Got lots to talk about, Doctor laud course,

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the president of the Crime Prevention Research Center. Good morning, John,

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How are you doing great?

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Thanks for having me on.

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Hey, great to have here. Lots of things to talk about.

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One of the things that you wrote about recently was,

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you know, regarding mail in ballots. Once again, you've got

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Rasmussen polling sixty two percent are concerned about election cheating

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and all this is coming to the forefront right now

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in light of all this jerry mandering noise that's going on,

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and I think the Democrats may rue the day on

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it because they're being exposed big time. Me thinks you

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complained too much because they have been the kings of

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jerry mandering, and now that Republicans are, you know, about

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ten years behind the curveer, but they're catching up. They're

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very annoyed about that, John, Right.

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I mean, you look at a state like Illinois, for example,

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Republicans have seventeen percent of the congressional seats, but they're

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getting forty percent of the vote. You look at states

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like Massachusetts or Connecticut, there are no Republicans from there

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despite sizeable Republican votes. In Maryland they have eight House districts,

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only one Republican there. And you know, similarly in California,

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you know what's happened is that Texas is starting to

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get near with the redistrict into what these other states

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have already done in terms of like California, but now

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California wants to go even further rather than having like eight.

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Republicans, eight or nine Republicans representative with I think Trump's

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forty three percent or something right, both right, and they.

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Want to reduce it down to like three Republicans out

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of fifty two seats. So, I mean, what's been what's

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been put into effect in Texas isn't anywhere near as

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extreme is what California where it wants to go. But

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you know, it basically is catching up to where California

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is right now. And look, one can be opposed to

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jerry mandering, but as you say, it's something that the

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Democrats have been doing in a much more extreme form

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for a while. Right.

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And of course after the Obama administration you had Eric Holder,

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the Attorney General, who was the jerry mandering czar, went

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across the country to look at these states to see

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what they could do to get a better advantage for

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Democrats right.

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Right, And of course they used lawsuits to try to

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even reduce what modest Jereman during the Republican States had done,

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particularly in the South. So, you know, it's too bad

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we're at this stage.

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But I think it's a good thing, John. I think

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it's good because people are talking about it, they're now

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aware of it, and they see all the shenanigans the

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Democrats have been doing, whether it's in with mail and

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bating what they did in twenty twenty. They still haven't

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gotten over that. This is why whenever the in fact,

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they're the ones that bring it up. Interestingly enough, about

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Joe Biden winning the twenty twenty election, they're always the

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first to bring it up and go, why are you

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so concerned? I mean, we don't want to talk about it.

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You're the ones that keep bringing it up, and it's always, well,

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don't you believe in the results of the twenty twenty election.

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Well me and over sixty percent of America doesn't believe

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in it, So I'm sorry. You know, it looks bogus

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between mail in balloting, the illegal immigrants that voted. You know,

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it just what we have at least six six decisions

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by courts that have decided that there was cheating, and

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of course others have been thrown out for lack of

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standing and some other technical issues. But it leaves the

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people with the feeling that there is a lot of

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Shenanigan still.

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Right, you know, I mean, I agree with you that

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you look at pulling and even Democrats are concerned about

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possible fraud with regard to mail in ballots. They're concerned

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about lots of issues that the Democratic politicians who represent

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them seem to vote the other way all the time.

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You look at some like photo IDs required for voting.

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We have surveys that show seventy eighty percent of Americans

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that's a good idea, overwhelmingly Democrats. Voters think it's a

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good idea, and yet Democratic politicians will vote one hundred

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percent against requiring that. And you know it's not just

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in our country. You look around the world, in the

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United States is a real outlier in terms of what

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types of things we have for ensuring election integrity. You

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look at Europe, for example, there are forty seven countries

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in Europe, Forty six and a half of them required

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government issued photo IDs for people to be able to

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go and vote. Canada, Mexico require it, all South America

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requires it. And yet you know, somehow, even though they

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have it in Mexico, it's somehow discriminatory against minorities here

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in the United States for us to have a similar

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type of rule. You look at mail in voting that

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you are asking about, and there's no country. There's not

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one country in the world that has this kind of

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universal mail in ballot where they just send out a

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ballot to everybody who's a registered voter. In fact, even

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if you look at absentee ballots, most of the world

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is much more restrictive than what we have here in

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the United States. You look at Europe, for example, of

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the forty seven countries, there are thirty five of them

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completely ban absentee ballots for people living in the country.

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Another ten allow it, but they won't send you the

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ballot in the mail. You have to come in in

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person and show a government issued photo ID before they'll

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go and provide it to you. And even six six

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of those ten countries have an additional requirement that it's

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only limited to people who are in the military or

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who will be in the hospital on election day, and

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you have to they don't take your word for it,

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like in the United States, it's you say I need

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an absentee ballot and they just give it to you.

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In those countries. In Europe, you have to have either

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the military or the hospital write out of form and

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certify that you will not be available to vote before

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they'll let you come in with your photo ID and

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pick up the ballot.

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Exactly. Well, you know, as you wrote about John, and

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we've talked about it here. I mean, you had a

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bipartisan two thousand and five commission on federal Election Reform

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led by Democratic President, the former president Jimmy Carter in

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Republican Secretary of State James Baker the third and they

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said absentee ballots are the largest source of potential voter

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fraud and recommended against it. And it was of course,

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this has been something the Democrats have fought with and

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nail war and then when COVID came. It gave them

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a license to just go absolutely bonkers.

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Right. Look, people don't know kind of the history of

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vote fraud in the United States. There's a lot of

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evidence that we used to have massive vote fraud, and

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some of the people forget why we had the reforms

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that were put in place. So the United States didn't

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have secret ballots until relatively recently. Kentucky was the first

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state to adopt secret ballots in eighteen eighty. South Carolina

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was the last state to adopt secret ballots in nineteen fifty.

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And what happened was you would have a ballot box

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up in the front of the room. People would go

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and drop in a colored piece of paper based on

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which party they were voting for, and the representatives of

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the parties would stand on either side of the ballot

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box and watch to see how you were voting, and

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then they would pay people for how they voted. What

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you saw happen when they ended that and started secret

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ballance was that there was about an eight to twelve

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percentage point drop in the rate that people were voting

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because some people, when they weren't getting paid, didn't go

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and vote.

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Ay, go figure that on, John Hey, we got a

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nineteen minutes after the top of the hore. We're talking

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voter fraud. Our favorite topics. It's one of the top

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topics you talk about when you get the family together

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over Thanksgiving, you know, things like that, because you know,

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we just want to have fun and just watch some

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of the relatives heads explode. But you know, John, again,

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what you just shared with us is something. In fact,

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I was looking back in the United States. I mean,

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there's vote of fraud back in the seventeen hundreds, I mean,

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it's just it's the nature of humanoids. You know, we're

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just not as moral as we think we are, or

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as integrists as some would suggest. People are always looking

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to work an angle, it seems that, and this is

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why you have the laws to protect to protect us

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against those scalleywags that want to, you know, break the

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law and get their guy into office no matter what.

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But it was interesting and I read that part that

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you just shared with everybody about how they were buying votes.

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I mean, so there's nothing new under the sun here,

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right right.

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Well, And the thing is, at the same time, we

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put in the secret ballots in order to prevent vote buying.

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Many states banned absentee ballots. Others had very strict restrictions

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on it, and they had things like banning outlawing vote harvesting.

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And the reason they did those rules is that they

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were concerned that vote buying could occur with absentee ballots.

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If you have an absentee ballot, you can show somebody

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who's going to pay you how you're voting, as opposed

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to a secret ballot when you go into the voting

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booth and you close the curtain there and nobody can

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see how you're voting. I mean, the problem with secret

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ballots is that they can't pay you because you know,

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you can tell them how you vote, but they don't

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have any proof on how you voted. With absentee ballots,

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you can show them how you vote, and then with

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ballot harvesting, you can give them the ballot and then

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they can make sure that it's voted, so they see

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how you vote and they know that it was voted,

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and that makes your vote worth more in terms of

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whether how much they're willing to pay you.

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Right, And so I'm glad you brought up ballot harvesting

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because isn't that an advanced form of buying votes?

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Well, it's surely related to it, and it makes it

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possible for them to pay you because otherwise you could

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say you voted and you could show them the absentee out,

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but they're not sure that you actually voted the ballot.

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And unless they're sure about that, they're not going to

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be willing to pay you as much or pay you

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at all as you would if you actually voted. And

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here's the problem that people aren't recognizing with regard to

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this vote buying, and that is it's pays. Both parties

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are benefiting from it. The people who are who are

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buying the vote are benefiting. The people who are selling

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the vote are getting money or something in return for it.

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And that makes it harder to catch because both parties

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have an incentive to go and hide that that's occurring

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or to deny that it's happened. And we see this

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in Europe. There are many countries in Europe that used

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to have absentee bout rules similar to what we have

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in the United States. France had it until nineteen seventy

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five when basically, luckily there were some people who kind

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of felt bad that had been going on for decades.

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Literally hundreds of thousands of votes were being purchased or

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you had dead people voting, primarily on the island of Corsica.

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And you know, when France discovered this, because some people

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had a guilty conscience, they then outlawed, completely outlawed absentee

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balanced in the country. England had absentee bout rules similar

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to ours until like two thousand and five when they

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discovered in Manchester I believe was England that there had

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been like forty thousand fraudulent votes that have been done there,

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primarily with the Muslim community that's there, and it's just

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you know, that's a lot of votes just in one

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set exactly have that.

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And here you are, I mean, you're calling out an

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ethnic group, the Muslims, And so what does that tell you?

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Is that reproducible here in the United States in Muslim community,

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Not to say all Muslim communities do this, I mean,

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because look at there's enough fraud and lack of integrity

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on all sides, all colors, all races, you know. But

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you know, if you see something like this, I mean,

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doesn't that throw up a warning flag to say, hey,

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look at we need to especially look at these areas

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to check and see how these people are being coursed.

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Because in many cases, John, we don't even know the language,

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we don't even know how to commute with, you know,

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communicate with these communities. You don't know what's going on.

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But the local organizational groups do and they're very effective

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in rallying these particular niche groups.

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Right. Yeah, it could be any group that could be

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doing it, you know, but look, it's something that we've

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seen a number of elections, even this year, there have

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been a number of cases, there's been charges brought against

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kind of mass ballot buying in Texas with vote harvesting.

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That's there, you know. So you just had a case

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in ham Trammick, Michigan, where the aid for a city

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council member was caught on video stuffing you know, several

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batches of absentee ballots into a mailbox that was there.

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So you know, there are real concerns about these types

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of things, and you know, the twenty twenty election probably

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was greatly affected by that. You know.

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Well, you know, the the other interesting thing, and I

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was looking at this bit, John, is that in some

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of the swing states you had illegal voters participating. Small

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number people might say, well, it's you know, less than

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two percent, so it shouldn't be that big a deal.

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Nationally though it was about five percent illegal immigrants. Some saying, hey,

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I didn't even know if I was you know, if

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I was authorized to vote, but I got a ballot,

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especially in California, because Gavin Newsom gave everybody he went

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Oprah Winfrey on California driver's license. Right, you get a

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driver's lice to everybody gets a driver's license. And what they

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did the state said, if you had a driver's license,

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then you get a ballot. So so you know, it

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confused the people in the immigrant community and they would go, hey,

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I don't know if I'm supposed to vote, if I'm

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legal or not. Well, guess who's hustling up those ballots.

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You know, Eric Holder in his composites are going knocking

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door to door and they are, you know, ballot harvesting.

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They're getting these ballots and the people say, well, I

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don't know if I'm authorized to vote, don't worry, just

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give me the ballot. We'll take care of it for.

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You, right, sir. I actually lived in twenty twenty for

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a while in a state that was doing mail in ballots,

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and you know, I was in an apartment and I

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was getting mail in ballots from people who had lived

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there like three or four tenants ago. You had you

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go through the mail room there and there were ballots

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all over the floor.

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You know, John, you have retired with all those extra

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ballots that was right gone into the retirement.

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This is I didn't know who to ask to pay

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me for a voting on that.

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But it's just you probably don't want to know.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, I'm with you. I'd be nervous on that. I

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thought it was interesting that even Putin in this visit

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with Trump, this recent visit, said, you know, mail in

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balloting is just a total you know, it's just a

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total access to voter from there.

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There's no country in the world that had mail and ballots,

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even during the twenty twenty election, like we had. Poland

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talked about having it, but they dropped it before they

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actually implemented it. The one places I know of there

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are two cities in Russia that had it for one election,

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but there's no country and there's nobody that does it now.

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And even for those two cities in Russia, it was

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just during COVID. So you know, we're the only We

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have eight states that have these mail in ballots, and

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seven of them are very heavily democratic states. U Utah

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is the one Republican state. But Utah just passed the

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law that is undoing the mail in ballots because of

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concerns about vote fraud here. So you know, it's you

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kind of look to see who wants to adopt it,

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and it gives you an idea of who thinks that

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they're going to benefit from having these types of rules

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that basically and these states also don't require IDs to

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be able to go and vote. So you know, there

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are all sorts.

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Of is this a predominant condition of Blue states versus

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Red states? John? I know we always hear well, both

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sides do it, and that drives me nuts because it

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should be, you know, our law should be such that

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both sides don't do it. But the fact that you

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could even say, oh, both sides do it, But it

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just seems to me that you hear about these problems

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more from the Blue states than you do the Red.

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Well, as I said for mail in Ballance, pretty soon,

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the only states that will have it are going to

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be heavily democratic states. And you know, with regard to

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photo IDs, the only states that don't require any type

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of photo IDs tend to be the most heavily democratic states.

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So you know, it's kind of I guess the proofs

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in the pudding there on where people are willing to go.

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Nutrition for Patriots, Well, good morning and welcome. Good to

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have you with us.

493
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I'm Bill Martinez and when You're a joy is back?

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When This is a scholar in residence for the Mississ Institute,

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a nonprofit organization that exists to promote teaching and research

496
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in the Austrian School of Economics and individual freedom, honest history,

497
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and international peace. Whyz're a welcome back, Good to have

498
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you with us. How are you?

499
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I'm fine? Thank you, Thanks so much for having me

500
00:28:40.160 --> 00:28:40.880
back on the show.

501
00:28:41.319 --> 00:28:45.000
Well, before we talk about Belgium, can we talk a

502
00:28:45.039 --> 00:28:47.559
little bit about what's happening in our country right now,

503
00:28:47.599 --> 00:28:52.319
because you've addressed this issue before, and what it seems

504
00:28:52.680 --> 00:28:54.680
what's happening because a lot of people are talking about

505
00:28:54.720 --> 00:28:59.640
Marxism and socialism, that it's rising in this country and

506
00:28:59.680 --> 00:29:02.799
become more and more, I guess, out of the closet

507
00:29:03.160 --> 00:29:06.559
and more obvious. But what also seems obvious to me

508
00:29:07.359 --> 00:29:13.039
is that it's targeted towards capitalism because you can't, you know,

509
00:29:13.440 --> 00:29:17.519
you can't bring in socialism and Marxism if capitalism is

510
00:29:17.559 --> 00:29:19.079
still in play. Is that fair to say?

511
00:29:20.519 --> 00:29:24.759
Yes, the goal of socialism and communism is to get

512
00:29:24.839 --> 00:29:27.880
rid of capitalism. And I think what's happened Many people

513
00:29:27.960 --> 00:29:32.960
are asking why has Marxism become so attractive? I mean,

514
00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:36.640
if you look at places like New York and Minneapolis,

515
00:29:36.640 --> 00:29:40.480
they're voting for about communists and people are saying why

516
00:29:40.640 --> 00:29:44.119
is this? I think that a large reason is because

517
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people don't they forget the causes of prosperity. So they

518
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look around and they think this is a prosperous country,

519
00:29:51.240 --> 00:29:54.279
things are going well. They forget how it came to

520
00:29:54.359 --> 00:29:56.839
be that way, and so they will easily put it

521
00:29:56.880 --> 00:29:59.599
at risk without thinking twice about it.

522
00:30:00.680 --> 00:30:04.039
Well, the cancel culture is still live and well, no doubt, yes,

523
00:30:04.160 --> 00:30:06.960
especially in these blue states. I mean you may think, okay,

524
00:30:07.400 --> 00:30:10.599
DEI and over this passe and all that, but no,

525
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I don't see it running away. I mean they may

526
00:30:13.960 --> 00:30:18.480
have you know, readjusted their attack, but there's still evidence

527
00:30:18.680 --> 00:30:22.000
and there's evidence that they're still around. And like I said,

528
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particularly in blue states where you know, the red carpet

529
00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:29.119
is still out for them, and people still have to

530
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be careful how they articulate their political positions.

531
00:30:32.519 --> 00:30:36.039
Correct, that's correct, And I think what's happened is that

532
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the debate has been reframed so that people think they're

533
00:30:39.559 --> 00:30:43.039
still in a debate between socialism and capitalism, whereas they're

534
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really in a debate between two different types of socialists.

535
00:30:47.559 --> 00:30:52.160
So that's the crazy, you know, woke socialists that everybody says, oh,

536
00:30:52.240 --> 00:30:55.720
that's just crazy the DEI people, and then the other

537
00:30:55.799 --> 00:30:58.759
socialists start looking very reasonable, the ones who are saying

538
00:30:58.839 --> 00:31:03.559
let's just have taxation and let's just redistribute wealth, let's

539
00:31:03.599 --> 00:31:08.240
have you know, controlled legal immigration. That's going to be

540
00:31:08.240 --> 00:31:12.240
better than the mass out of control immigration. But it's

541
00:31:12.319 --> 00:31:16.000
the same thing. It's packaged as a debate, but it's

542
00:31:16.039 --> 00:31:18.000
just the same thing, but just with a little it

543
00:31:18.039 --> 00:31:20.839
looks a little less crazy. So people think, okay, well

544
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that you know, but they just reframed the scope of

545
00:31:23.960 --> 00:31:24.480
the debate.

546
00:31:25.279 --> 00:31:27.920
So I'll just give you two choices. We're going to

547
00:31:27.960 --> 00:31:31.599
give you socialism or socialism light. That's all the choice

548
00:31:31.720 --> 00:31:32.559
you get, right.

549
00:31:32.960 --> 00:31:36.559
Exactly, And then everybody chooses the socialism light and they

550
00:31:36.559 --> 00:31:40.440
feel they want they feel, oh, yeah, we're winning because

551
00:31:40.559 --> 00:31:43.519
we're only you know, we aren't going as far as

552
00:31:43.559 --> 00:31:48.039
the communists. So, for example, they would not accept seizing

553
00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:52.119
the means of production, which is what mum Danny said

554
00:31:52.119 --> 00:31:55.319
in New York. He previously said he wants to seize

555
00:31:55.319 --> 00:31:57.839
the means of production. They won't accept that because that's

556
00:31:57.960 --> 00:32:03.000
clear communism. What they will accept is price controls, you know,

557
00:32:03.160 --> 00:32:06.599
rent controls. That he said, so everyone can afford their apartment.

558
00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:09.160
Oh that's okay, that's socialism light.

559
00:32:09.240 --> 00:32:12.200
They'll have that exactly. Yeah, that's just like I'm going

560
00:32:12.279 --> 00:32:15.519
to put you in some warm water. And once I

561
00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:17.759
get you in the warm water, then we're just gonna

562
00:32:18.079 --> 00:32:21.240
just slightly you know, just goose up the heat and

563
00:32:21.319 --> 00:32:24.039
before you know it, you're boiled, right exactly.

564
00:32:24.119 --> 00:32:26.559
So that's the strategy. They do it because it works.

565
00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:29.400
I think part of it is also that people are

566
00:32:29.519 --> 00:32:32.200
people are busy and then getting on with life, and

567
00:32:32.200 --> 00:32:34.920
they don't want to have endless debates. So if they

568
00:32:34.960 --> 00:32:38.400
find a compromise that they think, well, I can more

569
00:32:38.480 --> 00:32:41.640
or less live with this, then they just accept that

570
00:32:41.720 --> 00:32:43.599
and they're just happy with it. We've seen a lot

571
00:32:43.640 --> 00:32:49.279
of that around the whole civil rights debate, where people say, okay,

572
00:32:49.480 --> 00:32:51.920
you can have affirmative action as long as you're not

573
00:32:52.200 --> 00:32:55.839
using it to admit people to medical school because nobody

574
00:32:55.839 --> 00:33:01.920
wants a nobody wants a DEI doctor. Right, but you yes, promisedly.

575
00:33:02.400 --> 00:33:04.519
But you can have that as long as you're just

576
00:33:04.880 --> 00:33:07.359
doing it in schools, and you know, as long as

577
00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:09.880
you aren't taking it too far. And this is the

578
00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:12.400
compromise that I think is quite dangerous.

579
00:33:13.160 --> 00:33:15.839
Well, look what happened. You know, I say, what happens

580
00:33:15.880 --> 00:33:19.000
in California doesn't stay in California. We had a situation

581
00:33:19.119 --> 00:33:22.759
here where I'm in Florida one Giro and we just

582
00:33:22.839 --> 00:33:28.000
had a terrible accident with an immigrant who was here

583
00:33:28.079 --> 00:33:31.359
ill I guess maybe, well, he was here based on

584
00:33:31.440 --> 00:33:36.279
a you know, he's from India. It was asylum and

585
00:33:36.359 --> 00:33:38.880
for over seven years, and it's ridiculous, this case had

586
00:33:38.920 --> 00:33:42.319
not been reviewed. He couldn't even read English. But yet

587
00:33:42.359 --> 00:33:46.880
in California they gave him a driver's license, because Gavin

588
00:33:46.960 --> 00:33:50.519
Newsom gave driver's license to everybody. He became Oprah Winfrey.

589
00:33:50.759 --> 00:33:53.200
You get a driver'su you get everybody gets a driver's license.

590
00:33:53.599 --> 00:33:57.880
And so this man gets a driver's license. He somehow

591
00:33:58.039 --> 00:34:01.720
applies for a commercial license and he gets it even

592
00:34:01.880 --> 00:34:05.079
though his instructor said, this guy doesn't even understand the

593
00:34:05.160 --> 00:34:08.760
language and he's a danger, but they give it to him,

594
00:34:08.960 --> 00:34:11.239
and they send him out on the highways and byways.

595
00:34:11.280 --> 00:34:13.199
He ends up here on the East Coast and he

596
00:34:13.320 --> 00:34:17.960
kills three people. Well, to me, you know, somebody beyond

597
00:34:18.039 --> 00:34:23.320
this guy is libel. And I say, you got to

598
00:34:23.360 --> 00:34:25.599
go back to Gavin Newsom in California, and I think

599
00:34:25.639 --> 00:34:28.920
also Washington initially I think gave him a driver's license

600
00:34:28.920 --> 00:34:31.400
as well. I mean, this is a hot mess, but

601
00:34:31.519 --> 00:34:33.880
you know, to say, put it all in this person

602
00:34:34.199 --> 00:34:38.000
and not put it on the state that was responsible

603
00:34:38.440 --> 00:34:42.000
for giving him a commercial license I think is egregious.

604
00:34:43.639 --> 00:34:46.559
It absolutely is, And you're right, it's to do with

605
00:34:48.159 --> 00:34:52.800
having the wrong rules and the wrong policies in place.

606
00:34:53.039 --> 00:34:56.880
And that's a very good example because it shows how

607
00:34:57.360 --> 00:35:00.199
it's not just the state with a disastrous policy is

608
00:35:00.199 --> 00:35:04.519
that suffers. It's everybody that suffers from this. So you

609
00:35:04.599 --> 00:35:08.320
have states saying we're a safe haven for illegal immigrants,

610
00:35:08.920 --> 00:35:11.440
and people say, well, you know, California, that they're just

611
00:35:11.480 --> 00:35:14.239
crazy that way, you know, Massachusetts, this is how you

612
00:35:14.280 --> 00:35:17.920
know they're But it's not just them. You know, that

613
00:35:18.559 --> 00:35:22.880
may be where that illegals will start with all their

614
00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:25.719
paperwork and their licenses, but they can go anywhere they

615
00:35:25.760 --> 00:35:26.960
want exactly.

616
00:35:27.239 --> 00:35:29.039
Yeah, they can be on airplanes. And here it was.

617
00:35:29.199 --> 00:35:31.199
You know, the thing is so ironic because after nine

618
00:35:31.239 --> 00:35:34.079
to eleven, right, every well, you know, we had TSA

619
00:35:34.199 --> 00:35:38.199
come into play and all the security, how heightened it got,

620
00:35:38.960 --> 00:35:41.719
you know, at the airports and everything. And then I

621
00:35:41.760 --> 00:35:44.639
mean in less than two decades, next thing, you know,

622
00:35:44.719 --> 00:35:46.559
I mean, we still have to take our shoes off.

623
00:35:46.840 --> 00:35:48.440
I think maybe now you can keep them on again,

624
00:35:48.599 --> 00:35:50.960
but anyway, but you still have to take your shoes off.

625
00:35:51.119 --> 00:35:53.920
But then they just start giving license to people who

626
00:35:53.960 --> 00:35:56.880
aren't even legal citizens, and they're able to get on

627
00:35:56.920 --> 00:35:59.800
a plane, and so what happened to our security?

628
00:36:01.000 --> 00:36:03.840
It goes back to what we were saying about Marxism.

629
00:36:04.039 --> 00:36:08.199
The Marxists who are behind this have a dream, a

630
00:36:08.400 --> 00:36:11.519
vision of a world without borders. It's what they called

631
00:36:11.639 --> 00:36:16.119
the New World Order. It's there. Anybody can go to

632
00:36:16.159 --> 00:36:19.679
the United Nations website and see the documents there. It's

633
00:36:19.760 --> 00:36:24.360
this idea that you have a world without a world

634
00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:28.679
without nations, a world with just common taxes, you know,

635
00:36:28.800 --> 00:36:33.199
global taxations, so nobody can flee from one jurisdiction to

636
00:36:33.280 --> 00:36:35.719
a different one in order to reduce their tax bill.

637
00:36:36.119 --> 00:36:38.440
That's their dream, and they present it as a good dream.

638
00:36:38.480 --> 00:36:42.320
And unfortunately we now have some of the free market

639
00:36:42.400 --> 00:36:46.840
people supporting that because a lot of free market capitalists

640
00:36:46.920 --> 00:36:50.679
they think, oh, you know that sounds like free markets.

641
00:36:51.039 --> 00:36:54.199
I like free markets. I'm going to support that, right,

642
00:36:54.800 --> 00:36:57.440
So they fall for what we were saying earlier. The

643
00:36:57.519 --> 00:37:02.239
socialism liked because they think I will get my free

644
00:37:02.320 --> 00:37:05.079
market trade out of this whole New World Order thing,

645
00:37:05.119 --> 00:37:07.320
and so I should support it. So you have all

646
00:37:07.360 --> 00:37:13.079
these different political groups that are supporting the collapse of

647
00:37:13.239 --> 00:37:20.800
national borders, and then the attempt to defend national borders

648
00:37:20.840 --> 00:37:24.719
and to defend borders in general is now presented as

649
00:37:24.760 --> 00:37:28.639
what they're calling far right. If you're against the new

650
00:37:28.679 --> 00:37:32.320
World order, the Marxist new World order, that means that

651
00:37:32.400 --> 00:37:34.559
you're far right. That's the way they put it, so

652
00:37:34.599 --> 00:37:38.039
that people who don't have time to investigate all these

653
00:37:38.079 --> 00:37:40.719
debates will just say, well, you know, I don't want

654
00:37:40.719 --> 00:37:42.360
to be far right, so I'm just going to go

655
00:37:42.400 --> 00:37:44.119
and support the Marxists.

656
00:37:44.400 --> 00:37:46.920
Yes, yeah, they find a way to control you with

657
00:37:47.079 --> 00:37:51.000
your rhetoric, if they don't outright cancel you, because somehow

658
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outright canceling you that's kind of you know, that's yesterday's news.

659
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660
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You know what amazes me, Monzerro, is that so much

738
00:42:26.639 --> 00:42:29.679
of what is being presented here by way of Marxism

739
00:42:29.960 --> 00:42:32.960
still remains in the theoretical because if you look at

740
00:42:33.000 --> 00:42:36.800
the data, it is shared misery. It's never worked. I

741
00:42:37.119 --> 00:42:39.280
don't know. Can you give me one example in the

742
00:42:39.320 --> 00:42:43.199
history of mankind where Marxism or communism has worked so

743
00:42:43.239 --> 00:42:46.159
beautifully that should that we all should just get on

744
00:42:46.199 --> 00:42:49.360
the bandwagon and say, hey, let's return to the good

745
00:42:49.400 --> 00:42:49.960
old days.

746
00:42:51.280 --> 00:42:55.199
They have no examples, because there are no examples. Marxism

747
00:42:55.280 --> 00:42:59.440
has never worked ever. It has always only ever resulted

748
00:42:59.480 --> 00:43:03.360
in terror and death. The way they get around that

749
00:43:03.719 --> 00:43:06.800
is by saying, well, they didn't try it properly.

750
00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:10.519
And you know, if we only had a little bit

751
00:43:10.599 --> 00:43:13.920
more time. Right time, we.

752
00:43:13.840 --> 00:43:17.000
Can do it better. You know that it failed everywhere else,

753
00:43:17.039 --> 00:43:19.519
but they say, we can do it better, so this

754
00:43:19.639 --> 00:43:21.599
time it's going to work. That's the way that they

755
00:43:21.639 --> 00:43:25.880
get around it. And to a degree, you also have

756
00:43:26.000 --> 00:43:31.000
some nostalgia for some of the elements of Marxism, like

757
00:43:32.000 --> 00:43:37.920
state housing, state funded grocery stores. I saw that was

758
00:43:37.960 --> 00:43:39.840
one of the things that mum Danny said he was

759
00:43:39.840 --> 00:43:42.920
going to introduce into New York. And you get people

760
00:43:42.920 --> 00:43:47.039
who think, Wow, that's a great idea, let's try and

761
00:43:47.079 --> 00:43:49.840
do it better. But really what's beguiling them is not

762
00:43:50.440 --> 00:43:53.360
the thought that it could work, but just they're thinking, Wow,

763
00:43:53.400 --> 00:43:55.480
how amazing would that be if it could work?

764
00:43:56.239 --> 00:43:56.440
Right?

765
00:43:56.719 --> 00:43:59.960
Yeah. And then and then almost shortly after he talked

766
00:44:00.119 --> 00:44:04.639
about that, you saw what happened in Missouri. Right here,

767
00:44:04.679 --> 00:44:09.079
they have a government controlled grocery store that goes out

768
00:44:09.079 --> 00:44:11.320
of business, and they're showing the shelves and I think

769
00:44:11.360 --> 00:44:13.719
there is only a package of hot dog buns.

770
00:44:14.559 --> 00:44:17.280
Because that's always what happens. As soon as the state

771
00:44:17.480 --> 00:44:21.639
takes over grocery stores they end up with. First of all,

772
00:44:21.639 --> 00:44:24.679
they have pricing problems. They don't know what to price

773
00:44:24.800 --> 00:44:29.840
anything at because they have no market expertise or market experience.

774
00:44:29.880 --> 00:44:35.280
They're just bureaucrats. So they fix prices that doesn't work.

775
00:44:35.320 --> 00:44:39.239
Their supply chains collapse, so now there's nothing on the stores.

776
00:44:39.719 --> 00:44:44.719
And one form of state control leads to another form

777
00:44:44.760 --> 00:44:47.119
of state control because now they think, we'll get to

778
00:44:47.159 --> 00:44:50.760
the suppliers, right, and we'll take those over so that

779
00:44:50.800 --> 00:44:54.159
we can now control the supply chains. So it's just

780
00:44:54.280 --> 00:44:57.719
one thing leading to another, and that's why inevitably it

781
00:44:57.800 --> 00:45:00.480
leads to tyranny.

782
00:45:01.079 --> 00:45:03.280
Any good business person is going to tell you when

783
00:45:03.400 --> 00:45:05.639
when you got thin pickens to begin with, we're talking

784
00:45:05.639 --> 00:45:08.000
maybe one and a half three points of profit margin

785
00:45:08.280 --> 00:45:14.519
to work with. I mean, you imagine these theatersticians out there,

786
00:45:14.679 --> 00:45:17.559
some of these academics who think they know better. It's like,

787
00:45:18.280 --> 00:45:21.199
you know, get it off the paper. You know, it

788
00:45:21.280 --> 00:45:24.480
looks good on paper. But unfortunately a lot of these

789
00:45:24.519 --> 00:45:27.360
business plans don't work so well when you get them

790
00:45:27.360 --> 00:45:29.519
off of paper and you put them in the marketplace right.

791
00:45:30.400 --> 00:45:33.599
Right, And they don't have any picture of the long term.

792
00:45:33.679 --> 00:45:36.480
So they look at prices and they say, oh, would

793
00:45:36.519 --> 00:45:39.000
you believe this is the price of you know, whatever,

794
00:45:39.000 --> 00:45:42.719
they're looking at They have no they have no view

795
00:45:42.760 --> 00:45:46.599
of the trends, They have no idea of the costs,

796
00:45:47.199 --> 00:45:50.719
they have no idea of you know, how the market's

797
00:45:50.800 --> 00:45:53.079
being affected by anything. They just look at the price.

798
00:45:53.360 --> 00:45:55.599
They want to fix that. They say, nobody should be

799
00:45:55.599 --> 00:45:58.119
paying that price. This is the thing. They have no

800
00:45:58.280 --> 00:46:02.119
experience of how things work because either they've spent their

801
00:46:02.320 --> 00:46:08.360
entire career working in universities, whether they're shielded from market pricing,

802
00:46:08.880 --> 00:46:12.599
or their government bureaucrats, where again they're shielded from market pricing.

803
00:46:13.280 --> 00:46:13.760
Exactly.

804
00:46:13.920 --> 00:46:16.519
Well, they get so ideologically fixed once you were that,

805
00:46:16.559 --> 00:46:19.960
they don't understand the nuance. Like you said, they want

806
00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:23.360
everything to happen in an instant. Well, you've got supply chains,

807
00:46:23.440 --> 00:46:25.880
you've got you know, the dominoes all set up. When

808
00:46:25.880 --> 00:46:27.719
domino goes down, they all go down. I mean, they

809
00:46:27.719 --> 00:46:31.599
don't understand that because it takes effort and it takes time.

810
00:46:31.920 --> 00:46:34.599
It's just like I think it's why they're afraid to

811
00:46:34.679 --> 00:46:38.840
even debate, to even have a reasonable conversation of hey,

812
00:46:38.840 --> 00:46:41.519
look at, bring your ideas to the marketplace, let's work

813
00:46:41.559 --> 00:46:41.960
them out.

814
00:46:43.199 --> 00:46:43.440
Now.

815
00:46:43.480 --> 00:46:45.840
That's like doing a term paper all over again. I'd

816
00:46:45.920 --> 00:46:49.119
rather not just give me the grade, right, right.

817
00:46:49.280 --> 00:46:52.880
And the other thing is, first they pretend that nobody

818
00:46:52.920 --> 00:46:56.400
knows whether Marxism works, nobody knows whether communism works, so

819
00:46:56.440 --> 00:46:59.400
we let's try it and see. They pretend we don't

820
00:46:59.440 --> 00:47:06.559
have history of failed communist experiments and one hundred million

821
00:47:06.679 --> 00:47:10.400
people dead across the world. They pretend that we don't

822
00:47:10.440 --> 00:47:13.159
have that, and that we're just starting from ground zero.

823
00:47:13.599 --> 00:47:17.280
This is a very it's a very key Marxist strategy

824
00:47:17.320 --> 00:47:20.519
where we're always starting from day one, we always start

825
00:47:20.559 --> 00:47:23.920
with a clean slate. That's why erasing history is so

826
00:47:24.039 --> 00:47:28.039
important to them. And that's why, just to give an example,

827
00:47:28.119 --> 00:47:32.079
they say, you know, everyone's an American from the moment

828
00:47:32.199 --> 00:47:34.960
they arrive on you know, from the moment they arrive

829
00:47:35.280 --> 00:47:38.440
there is no such thing as American history. You know,

830
00:47:38.800 --> 00:47:43.599
everything is about an idea that starts today. They erase history,

831
00:47:43.599 --> 00:47:46.800
and this is what enables them to also erase the

832
00:47:46.920 --> 00:47:49.119
history of communist failures.

833
00:47:49.400 --> 00:47:53.239
Right exactly. Well. And the thing is they ignore the

834
00:47:53.280 --> 00:48:00.000
fact that we have millions of immigrants from previously communist country.

835
00:48:00.599 --> 00:48:03.440
You know, I say here in Florida, you know, I say,

836
00:48:03.519 --> 00:48:06.119
instead of these kids going to you know, South Beach

837
00:48:06.159 --> 00:48:10.360
in Florida for a little spring break vacation. What they

838
00:48:10.400 --> 00:48:13.599
need to do is go to Miami and kya Ocho

839
00:48:13.719 --> 00:48:15.639
out there with a lot of the Cubans and the

840
00:48:15.639 --> 00:48:19.119
immigrants there and talk to them about communism. But that

841
00:48:19.360 --> 00:48:22.760
would be the best investment that they could have in

842
00:48:22.880 --> 00:48:27.519
understanding how governments work and what is the truth and

843
00:48:27.679 --> 00:48:31.679
the reality of communism. You know, from the people that

844
00:48:31.760 --> 00:48:35.800
have experienced it, the ones that are saying, you know, ivosmeo,

845
00:48:35.840 --> 00:48:37.719
I mean, what are you doing here? I mean this

846
00:48:37.800 --> 00:48:40.920
is like, uh, you know, you are heading down the

847
00:48:41.000 --> 00:48:42.559
road that we left.

848
00:48:44.840 --> 00:48:49.079
And instead of giving them those experiences or teaching this

849
00:48:49.239 --> 00:48:54.519
in history, instead they devote the history curriculum to focusing

850
00:48:54.559 --> 00:48:58.719
on what they call the sins of America, what they

851
00:48:58.800 --> 00:49:03.559
call the original sin of America. They spend an inordinate

852
00:49:03.639 --> 00:49:07.599
amount of time talking about slavery. Now here's the thing.

853
00:49:07.800 --> 00:49:12.840
Nobody is learning about how economies are built. They're not

854
00:49:13.039 --> 00:49:17.599
learning about productivity, they're not learning about how to create

855
00:49:17.639 --> 00:49:21.480
a functioning country, or they're not learning about who built America.

856
00:49:21.639 --> 00:49:26.159
All they're learning is about grievances. They spend the whole

857
00:49:26.159 --> 00:49:30.400
time debating grievances, looking at pictures of grievances and saying, oh,

858
00:49:30.440 --> 00:49:33.760
you know, this is such a tragedy. And then they say,

859
00:49:33.800 --> 00:49:36.360
if you listen to them now, they say, oh, we

860
00:49:36.400 --> 00:49:40.599
don't talk about slavery enough. We need to talk about

861
00:49:40.639 --> 00:49:43.079
it more, when it's all they ever talk about. So

862
00:49:43.480 --> 00:49:45.960
one of the reasons there's a lot of ignorance about

863
00:49:46.079 --> 00:49:48.760
the failures of communism around the world is also that

864
00:49:48.800 --> 00:49:52.159
people simply haven't learned it. They haven't studied it, they

865
00:49:52.199 --> 00:49:55.639
don't know about it. This is a problem.

866
00:49:55.920 --> 00:49:58.320
Well, and it's like anything when you look at you know,

867
00:49:58.559 --> 00:50:01.679
I always use this example about bank tellers. You know,

868
00:50:02.280 --> 00:50:07.599
people are surprised that bank tellers, when they study about

869
00:50:07.599 --> 00:50:11.079
the counterfeit, what they focus on is the legitimate. They

870
00:50:11.159 --> 00:50:14.280
learned the legitimate so well that they can spot the

871
00:50:14.320 --> 00:50:18.760
counterfeit like that. And it's the same example that you're

872
00:50:18.800 --> 00:50:23.000
saying here. Because we're not studying the legitimate of good governments,

873
00:50:23.639 --> 00:50:26.920
we get caught up in all these little side trails

874
00:50:27.440 --> 00:50:31.000
and we get confused and overwhelmed, and next thing you know,

875
00:50:31.079 --> 00:50:36.760
you're voting for socialism socialism light because it's kind of okay,

876
00:50:37.039 --> 00:50:38.199
and plus you're just tired.

877
00:50:39.480 --> 00:50:42.920
Yes, exactly. Nobody knows what the real thing looks like

878
00:50:43.000 --> 00:50:46.239
because they haven't studied it. They've spent their entire time

879
00:50:46.280 --> 00:50:50.679
at school learning about grievances. So, for example, when you

880
00:50:50.719 --> 00:50:57.519
tell people the original Americans were illegal immigrants, So that's

881
00:50:57.599 --> 00:50:59.880
one of the lines that the Democrats have been run.

882
00:51:00.599 --> 00:51:03.920
Right now, if people don't know anything about American history

883
00:51:03.960 --> 00:51:08.480
that believe it, why wouldn't they, You know, it sounds plausible, right,

884
00:51:08.599 --> 00:51:11.760
because they've never studied this history. They don't know what

885
00:51:11.960 --> 00:51:16.360
was here in sixteen oh seven. They don't know what

886
00:51:16.480 --> 00:51:23.039
the original Virginians had to cope with, what they had

887
00:51:23.039 --> 00:51:26.000
to build, how they had to survive the winters. They

888
00:51:26.039 --> 00:51:28.639
don't know any of that. They just assume there was

889
00:51:28.679 --> 00:51:32.400
a government and they just got welfare when they showed up,

890
00:51:33.119 --> 00:51:35.559
because that's what they see around if they assume this

891
00:51:35.679 --> 00:51:37.920
is how it has always been, and nobody is teaching

892
00:51:37.960 --> 00:51:40.960
them that history, because if you knew the history, you

893
00:51:41.039 --> 00:51:42.800
would not believe these lies.

894
00:51:42.840 --> 00:51:46.360
They're preposterous, right, exactly, Well, we've got a couple of

895
00:51:46.360 --> 00:51:49.079
minutes left. I did want to address the main topic

896
00:51:49.119 --> 00:51:54.599
that we originally connected on, and that was the Bolivian election.

897
00:51:54.760 --> 00:51:57.639
Is proving the country once to put an end to socialism.

898
00:51:57.719 --> 00:52:02.199
Right, Yes, people have had enough, They've experienced the hard

899
00:52:02.280 --> 00:52:06.239
way the tyranny of socialism, because this is one thing

900
00:52:06.320 --> 00:52:08.800
that people often don't talk about. We talk about our

901
00:52:08.880 --> 00:52:13.519
shortages and the collapse in supply chains, but there's also

902
00:52:13.559 --> 00:52:17.239
the tyranny that goes with it that's needed to keep

903
00:52:17.280 --> 00:52:19.199
those systems in place. And I think that's one of

904
00:52:19.199 --> 00:52:22.280
the things that makes people say we've had enough. We

905
00:52:22.320 --> 00:52:23.719
saw the same in Argentina.

906
00:52:24.280 --> 00:52:26.599
Yeah, yeah, Venezuela, the same thing.

907
00:52:26.880 --> 00:52:28.760
Venezuela, the same thing especially.

908
00:52:29.199 --> 00:52:31.480
I mean you look at all that's going on there,

909
00:52:31.599 --> 00:52:35.119
and you know that just seems to be heading for

910
00:52:35.400 --> 00:52:40.679
a massive train wreck with all the corruption and you know,

911
00:52:40.760 --> 00:52:42.679
the cost of living. You can talk about cost of

912
00:52:42.719 --> 00:52:45.639
living and people eating out of the back of trash trucks.

913
00:52:45.679 --> 00:52:50.400
I mean, this is this is what communism, socialism, Marxism

914
00:52:50.480 --> 00:52:55.480
leads to as they share say, shared misery, right right.

915
00:52:55.400 --> 00:52:58.599
And I think a very important message to tell when

916
00:52:58.639 --> 00:53:01.480
we discuss what's happening in those countries. A lot of

917
00:53:01.519 --> 00:53:05.599
Americans think, well, maybe those countries didn't manage it very well.

918
00:53:05.440 --> 00:53:08.320
We would do it better, you know, because we would

919
00:53:08.320 --> 00:53:12.960
be less corrupt the corruption is inherent in the socialist system.

920
00:53:13.519 --> 00:53:13.760
It is.

921
00:53:14.280 --> 00:53:17.239
There's no other way that socialism could work other than

922
00:53:17.280 --> 00:53:18.639
through those forms of corruption.

923
00:53:19.639 --> 00:53:21.519
Yeah, and look what it does, Like you said, it

924
00:53:21.599 --> 00:53:25.199
is a government of death and destruction. You know, Venezuela once,

925
00:53:25.599 --> 00:53:29.599
you know, a very prosperous country. You know, you talk

926
00:53:29.639 --> 00:53:33.920
about the shining light of hope in South America. Venezuela

927
00:53:34.159 --> 00:53:35.920
had it all gone for them, and then look how

928
00:53:35.960 --> 00:53:39.880
long it took for them to you know, to dive bomb, right.

929
00:53:40.480 --> 00:53:44.199
Absolutely, Yeah, that's great, and they would be the first

930
00:53:44.239 --> 00:53:47.719
to warn people against the types of experiments that you're

931
00:53:47.760 --> 00:53:50.679
seeing now in America. The other thing that I think

932
00:53:50.760 --> 00:53:54.239
is worth commenting on the rise of socialism in America

933
00:53:54.400 --> 00:53:58.800
is how often the leaders, the socialist leaders are from

934
00:53:58.920 --> 00:54:03.000
countries that fail. Yes, you know, it's like I'm from

935
00:54:03.039 --> 00:54:06.679
a country that failed, and I'm here to implement that

936
00:54:06.800 --> 00:54:09.679
failed idea in America and it's totally going to work,

937
00:54:10.199 --> 00:54:14.400
and people just seem to fall for this. It's incredible, Yeah.

938
00:54:14.400 --> 00:54:15.599
It is, It is incredible.

939
00:54:16.280 --> 00:54:16.400
You know.

940
00:54:16.440 --> 00:54:18.639
I often say, if you want to know what somebody

941
00:54:18.639 --> 00:54:21.199
will do, look at what they've done. You know, there

942
00:54:21.360 --> 00:54:25.159
is a history that's undeniable. Wanzeri and Joya has been

943
00:54:25.199 --> 00:54:27.519
with us a scholar in residence for the Missus Institute,

944
00:54:27.639 --> 00:54:31.320
a nonprofit organization that exists to promote teaching and research

945
00:54:31.599 --> 00:54:34.679
in the Austrian school of economics and individual freedom. Hon

946
00:54:34.679 --> 00:54:38.039
his history and international peace in the tradition of Ludwig

947
00:54:38.199 --> 00:54:43.159
von Missus and Murray and Rothbart Wanzira, thank you so much.

948
00:54:43.199 --> 00:54:45.239
It's always an odd pleasure to have you with us.

949
00:54:45.280 --> 00:54:45.800
You take care.

950
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Good morning, six minutes after the top of the our

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Bill Martinez here with James Irwin from at R. James,

972
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good morning, How are you.

973
00:56:13.519 --> 00:56:15.239
I'm doing well, Bill, How are you hey?

974
00:56:15.239 --> 00:56:18.000
I'm doing terrific. Thanks for joining us. Lots to catch

975
00:56:18.079 --> 00:56:22.480
up on. Let's start off with AI. You know, the

976
00:56:22.599 --> 00:56:27.079
race is on. Donald Trump has made it real clear

977
00:56:27.199 --> 00:56:29.840
he's cast a vision for this country, says that we

978
00:56:29.920 --> 00:56:33.159
will definitely lead the race. I think he's cautioning and saying,

979
00:56:33.440 --> 00:56:36.239
look at the Chinese broke out a little bit faster

980
00:56:36.440 --> 00:56:40.400
than us, but we have many more resources, and I

981
00:56:40.440 --> 00:56:42.000
think that we're going to leave them in the rear

982
00:56:42.079 --> 00:56:44.440
view mirror as long as we stay focused and keep

983
00:56:44.519 --> 00:56:45.880
moving forward. What do you say?

984
00:56:46.840 --> 00:56:49.800
I think Donald Trump has articulated a great America first

985
00:56:49.960 --> 00:56:54.760
vision for Ai developments, and we are still ahead of China,

986
00:56:54.800 --> 00:56:57.559
but just barely. There is no end to the amount

987
00:56:57.559 --> 00:56:59.880
of money they're willing to spend. They're willing to lever

988
00:57:00.159 --> 00:57:02.320
their entire economy to try and catch up with us.

989
00:57:02.639 --> 00:57:04.920
And so we need to make sure our developers have

990
00:57:05.159 --> 00:57:07.840
the resources which are here. We just have to let

991
00:57:07.880 --> 00:57:10.119
them use them. And we need to make sure that

992
00:57:10.199 --> 00:57:13.840
they have permission or rather permission less innovation where they

993
00:57:13.840 --> 00:57:16.679
can really flourish and build stuff. And look, we're building

994
00:57:16.679 --> 00:57:20.000
more ships in America. We're starting to bring those manufacturers here.

995
00:57:19.840 --> 00:57:23.239
And plus better, better ships James two. That's the other

996
00:57:23.320 --> 00:57:26.079
thing I mean when you look at the ship building

997
00:57:26.280 --> 00:57:32.760
in China, yes they built, you know, they've upped their shipbuilding,

998
00:57:33.119 --> 00:57:36.920
but the quality wise can't compare to America.

999
00:57:37.000 --> 00:57:40.920
Well, not to get into the specifics of historic Chinese

1000
00:57:40.960 --> 00:57:43.800
war doctrines, but every time they've ever fought a war,

1001
00:57:43.880 --> 00:57:46.719
their strategy has been human wave attacks. Now, Sun Zoo

1002
00:57:46.719 --> 00:57:50.039
did write a great, great theory of how you win

1003
00:57:50.079 --> 00:57:52.760
a war by not even fighting a battle, but in practice,

1004
00:57:52.800 --> 00:57:55.280
their advantage is their manpower, and they're just applying that

1005
00:57:55.320 --> 00:57:58.280
to the sea. Right like we have eleven aircraft carriers.

1006
00:57:58.280 --> 00:58:01.400
I think they have two have more ships on paper,

1007
00:58:01.440 --> 00:58:04.400
and they're just gonna throw these vessels into a battle

1008
00:58:05.599 --> 00:58:08.039
when they try and and and take Taiwan if they do.

1009
00:58:08.400 --> 00:58:10.719
But they won't do that if we are if we

1010
00:58:10.840 --> 00:58:13.760
remain far ahead of them in technology and in economic growth,

1011
00:58:13.760 --> 00:58:16.400
and their economic growth is slowing, ours is starting to

1012
00:58:16.519 --> 00:58:20.440
accelerate with the big beautiful bill, the permanent expensing, with

1013
00:58:21.280 --> 00:58:24.559
tax cuts, with deregulation and energy policy. I mean that

1014
00:58:24.679 --> 00:58:27.400
this is what ai development really needs, is they're so

1015
00:58:27.599 --> 00:58:30.639
hungry for energy. We're finally starting to see a breakthrough

1016
00:58:30.639 --> 00:58:34.199
on nuclear where the left has been protesting this since

1017
00:58:34.440 --> 00:58:36.880
the Vietnam War, since the Cold War. You know that

1018
00:58:37.400 --> 00:58:40.559
over of those those hippies still around, some of them

1019
00:58:41.199 --> 00:58:42.519
California protest.

1020
00:58:42.199 --> 00:58:45.159
They're they're actually out in DC right now yelling at

1021
00:58:45.159 --> 00:58:46.039
the Vice President.

1022
00:58:47.760 --> 00:58:50.239
They really at the National Guard, who I know, I've

1023
00:58:50.280 --> 00:58:53.199
seen them around, you know, but the train stations and such.

1024
00:58:53.239 --> 00:58:56.000
But I actually have some I want to talk to

1025
00:58:56.039 --> 00:58:58.119
them someday because I've got some good ideas about where

1026
00:58:58.119 --> 00:59:00.480
they might deploy U such as for East live up

1027
00:59:00.519 --> 00:59:03.000
in North Capitol Street, where I think the boys are

1028
00:59:03.000 --> 00:59:04.719
still out there are stelling drugs. I think they can

1029
00:59:05.280 --> 00:59:07.239
make a difference in some places they used to live

1030
00:59:07.239 --> 00:59:07.840
around here.

1031
00:59:08.320 --> 00:59:11.440
Well, there's no doubt there's been a positive effect in

1032
00:59:11.440 --> 00:59:13.639
a short period of time. You know, it's interesting when

1033
00:59:13.719 --> 00:59:16.400
you put a focus on something, whether it's the border,

1034
00:59:16.880 --> 00:59:21.960
or job creation and development or regulation, you know how

1035
00:59:22.039 --> 00:59:25.719
quick things can change. And right now it seems that

1036
00:59:26.000 --> 00:59:28.000
everything is happening in Trump.

1037
00:59:27.719 --> 00:59:33.920
Time, absolutely, and we'll hopefully be building our next generation

1038
00:59:34.039 --> 00:59:37.079
AI systems in Trump time as well. One of the

1039
00:59:37.159 --> 00:59:39.280
dangers here that I'm working on and we're kind of

1040
00:59:39.280 --> 00:59:41.840
worried about, is what the states will get up to

1041
00:59:42.000 --> 00:59:45.239
because AI technology is developed in one state, but it

1042
00:59:45.239 --> 00:59:48.159
doesn't ever stay there. It really is interstate commerce. And

1043
00:59:48.239 --> 00:59:51.559
so there had been a proposal Senator Ted Cruz had

1044
00:59:51.639 --> 00:59:54.199
led this fight for the Big Beautiful Bill to include

1045
00:59:54.199 --> 00:59:58.320
an AI moratorium, basically to take a pause and tell states, listen,

1046
00:59:58.559 --> 01:00:00.760
this is a federal jurisdiction. We're going to see how

1047
01:00:00.800 --> 01:00:02.480
this goes, and we're going to see what we need

1048
01:00:02.519 --> 01:00:06.039
to do, what harms we need to work to mitigate

1049
01:00:06.079 --> 01:00:08.800
in the future. Most stuff that AI can be used

1050
01:00:08.840 --> 01:00:11.000
for that's bad is already illegal. So how do we

1051
01:00:11.119 --> 01:00:13.320
enforce that we need to take a little bit more

1052
01:00:13.320 --> 01:00:15.079
of a wheat and sea approach so we're not getting

1053
01:00:15.079 --> 01:00:17.320
in the way of innovation. I'll give you a great example.

1054
01:00:17.360 --> 01:00:20.760
In Colorado, they led with this really woke left wing

1055
01:00:20.840 --> 01:00:25.400
AI bill where basically they would blame coders and developers

1056
01:00:25.679 --> 01:00:28.960
for crimes that other people commit with their their software,

1057
01:00:29.119 --> 01:00:31.440
with their AI systems. This is like trying to take

1058
01:00:31.440 --> 01:00:34.119
the gun manufacturers to court because of school shootings or

1059
01:00:34.159 --> 01:00:36.559
STUDI old companies because the weather's bad. I mean, this

1060
01:00:36.639 --> 01:00:39.679
is exactly the same logic, and it's so bad that

1061
01:00:39.760 --> 01:00:43.920
Jared Poulis, the Democrat governor of Colorado, not only did

1062
01:00:44.079 --> 01:00:47.079
he he signed the bill, and he included a signing statement,

1063
01:00:47.119 --> 01:00:50.920
as governors often do, where he carefully explained everything that

1064
01:00:51.039 --> 01:00:52.679
was wrong with it. It's one of the most remarkable

1065
01:00:52.719 --> 01:00:55.280
things I've ever seen. But he still signed it, and

1066
01:00:55.559 --> 01:00:58.199
starting today he called a special session to repeal it.

1067
01:00:58.280 --> 01:01:00.360
So I don't know why he thought, why he signed

1068
01:01:00.360 --> 01:01:02.599
this in the place exactly today.

1069
01:01:03.119 --> 01:01:05.000
Yeah, Well, you know, I think it's quite interesting with

1070
01:01:05.079 --> 01:01:07.519
progressives how they kind of pick and choose their battles.

1071
01:01:07.679 --> 01:01:10.800
You know, we have a situation now where I'm in Florida,

1072
01:01:11.960 --> 01:01:16.760
and we had an immigrant from he was illegal from

1073
01:01:16.760 --> 01:01:20.960
India on an asylum claim seven years. I mean, way

1074
01:01:21.000 --> 01:01:24.079
beyond time to adjudicate. I mean he was an asylum claim.

1075
01:01:24.519 --> 01:01:27.840
Uh worried about his uh, you know, fearing for his life.

1076
01:01:27.920 --> 01:01:31.239
He's from India, for goodness sakes, Come on, what's the

1077
01:01:31.280 --> 01:01:34.039
threat level in India? I mean the threat level is

1078
01:01:34.119 --> 01:01:37.039
higher in d C by uh by four or five

1079
01:01:37.079 --> 01:01:41.679
times compared to India. But anyway, nonetheless, he's uh, but

1080
01:01:42.079 --> 01:01:45.239
he's in. He gets a California driver's license because Govinor

1081
01:01:45.320 --> 01:01:48.239
Newsom is so liberal out there, he just hey, you know,

1082
01:01:48.320 --> 01:01:50.679
he thinks he's Oprah Winfrey. You know, you get a

1083
01:01:50.719 --> 01:01:53.440
driver's license, you get everybody gets a driver's license, you know.

1084
01:01:53.920 --> 01:01:56.280
And so here's this guy. He can't even read the language,

1085
01:01:56.639 --> 01:01:59.280
but he not only gets a California driver's license, then

1086
01:01:59.280 --> 01:02:02.679
he ends up getting a commercial driver's license. He was

1087
01:02:02.800 --> 01:02:09.800
even his I guess his application. Those that were in

1088
01:02:10.519 --> 01:02:13.159
I guess an advisory capacity said hey, the guy doesn't

1089
01:02:13.159 --> 01:02:15.880
know the language, he's a risk, but they went ahead

1090
01:02:15.920 --> 01:02:20.119
and certified him anyway for a commercial driver's license. So

1091
01:02:20.199 --> 01:02:24.000
then he comes here to Florida kills three people, and

1092
01:02:24.079 --> 01:02:28.119
so to me, the liability should go all the way

1093
01:02:28.159 --> 01:02:31.119
back to California and these other states. I think Washington

1094
01:02:31.159 --> 01:02:35.360
also somehow, you know, Partook and all this stuff, and

1095
01:02:35.400 --> 01:02:39.119
they should all be held liable because what happens in California,

1096
01:02:39.239 --> 01:02:41.800
what we're finding out, doesn't stay in California, does it.

1097
01:02:42.840 --> 01:02:45.239
I don't think there's any secret that California is a

1098
01:02:45.280 --> 01:02:48.119
magnet for legal immigrants. It's a magnet for homeless people.

1099
01:02:48.159 --> 01:02:51.000
A third of the homeless population in America today is

1100
01:02:51.039 --> 01:02:53.599
in California because that's where you're allowed to live in

1101
01:02:53.639 --> 01:02:55.880
the street, that's where you're allowed to openly shoot up

1102
01:02:56.000 --> 01:02:59.159
in parks in front of children. And it's a magnet

1103
01:02:59.159 --> 01:03:00.920
for illegal immigrant because that's where you get you get

1104
01:03:00.920 --> 01:03:03.440
welfare regardless of whether you're allowed to be here. They

1105
01:03:03.639 --> 01:03:06.639
want to overload their Medicaid roles, which is part of

1106
01:03:06.639 --> 01:03:08.199
what the Big Beautiful Bill is going to do is

1107
01:03:08.440 --> 01:03:11.360
trying to take these people, these specific people that California

1108
01:03:11.400 --> 01:03:14.920
has added to its state program. It's federally funded off

1109
01:03:14.960 --> 01:03:17.119
of the roles, so it's preserved for Americans who are

1110
01:03:17.119 --> 01:03:20.000
actually disabled and can't work. So when Democrats go around

1111
01:03:20.039 --> 01:03:22.679
scare mongering about oh, the poor or losing Medicaid the

1112
01:03:22.920 --> 01:03:25.119
first question in every one's mind. It's kind of frustrating.

1113
01:03:25.280 --> 01:03:29.159
I wish some of our Republican congressmen were better at

1114
01:03:29.159 --> 01:03:31.480
making this argument. But whenever you're asked that, your first

1115
01:03:31.519 --> 01:03:34.360
thought should be your first response should be, oh is

1116
01:03:34.760 --> 01:03:36.840
he an i llegal immigrant? If anyone claims my son's

1117
01:03:36.840 --> 01:03:38.719
going to lose coverage, oh is he in the country illegally?

1118
01:03:38.800 --> 01:03:40.239
Because if not, you're going to be fine.

1119
01:03:40.719 --> 01:03:41.079
That's right.

1120
01:03:41.679 --> 01:03:44.119
That's what this is about. And it's about not making

1121
01:03:44.159 --> 01:03:46.239
California a magnet for these people so they end up

1122
01:03:46.239 --> 01:03:48.440
in other states, like in Florida. It's funny you mentioned

1123
01:03:48.440 --> 01:03:50.280
India actually, because believe it or not, I was there

1124
01:03:50.320 --> 01:03:55.199
about a month ago Beyonce's families from the south of India,

1125
01:03:56.679 --> 01:03:58.519
so we went to visit for a couple of weeks.

1126
01:03:58.559 --> 01:04:01.840
And I can assure you there's no there's no present,

1127
01:04:01.880 --> 01:04:03.960
clear and present danger to anyone's life there. I mean,

1128
01:04:04.199 --> 01:04:07.880
the crime rate is actually very low. And to the

1129
01:04:07.880 --> 01:04:10.400
extent there is crime, it's scams, it's frauds.

1130
01:04:10.440 --> 01:04:10.559
Now.

1131
01:04:10.559 --> 01:04:12.119
They don't even pick your pocket there, they just try

1132
01:04:12.119 --> 01:04:14.519
and get you to buy junk. It's not even like Europe,

1133
01:04:14.840 --> 01:04:17.840
but it's certainly, you know, nothing like say Latin America

1134
01:04:17.880 --> 01:04:19.679
or some of these African countries where you do have

1135
01:04:19.760 --> 01:04:21.599
like total you know, civil wars and me out there

1136
01:04:21.599 --> 01:04:25.159
is a refugee crisis. I can't figure how anybody would

1137
01:04:25.159 --> 01:04:28.039
would call themselves a refugee coming from a place like India.

1138
01:04:28.199 --> 01:04:31.800
As chaotic as it is, it is still a safe society.

1139
01:04:31.920 --> 01:04:35.599
Right well exactly. And he's been on this asylum ticket

1140
01:04:35.679 --> 01:04:39.039
for over seven years and so nobody has reviewed his

1141
01:04:39.199 --> 01:04:42.039
case in all this time period. But this is the

1142
01:04:42.079 --> 01:04:46.239
problem again. The system is overwhelmed. The government is too big,

1143
01:04:46.679 --> 01:04:49.400
or maybe not big enough in light of all the

1144
01:04:49.400 --> 01:04:51.960
people that they allowed across the border. We've got to

1145
01:04:51.960 --> 01:04:54.639
go to quick break. We've got more from James Irwin

1146
01:04:54.719 --> 01:04:55.920
after this stay with us.

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Welcome back. Nineteen minutes after the top of the our ATRS,

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Federal Affairs Manager James Irwin continues with us. James going

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back to AI and as quickly as this is moving,

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the other thing that we must mention is the fact

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that what Donald Trump is presenting, not only to America

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01:09:52.279 --> 01:09:55.880
but to the world is so enticing that you've got

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billions of dollars coming into the country in the name

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of investment into AI, right, So, I mean this is

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going to be a target rich market available for those innovators.

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Absolutely, it's a huge investment opportunity in microchips, it's a

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01:10:12.560 --> 01:10:16.119
huge investment in data centers, and it's a huge investment

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in the energy needed to power these data centers. So

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we're talking about building. Every major tech company that has

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01:10:21.960 --> 01:10:24.680
the capital to do this is going to try and

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01:10:24.760 --> 01:10:27.920
build data centers to hold all of the information that

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01:10:28.199 --> 01:10:31.560
we have, Like our email files are so everything on

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01:10:31.560 --> 01:10:34.840
social media, it's all stored on a server somewhere. And

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each of these costs, I mean, each of them is

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01:10:37.239 --> 01:10:43.520
they're acres wide. They're enormous, enormous buildings, and they cost

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01:10:43.720 --> 01:10:46.159
eighteen to twenty billion dollars a piece to build. That's

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01:10:46.159 --> 01:10:49.199
a billion with a B to create one data center.

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So and they do an enormous amount of work. So

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that's great investment in local jobs. Manufacturing. We need engineers

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to keep it running, and they all need lots and

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01:10:58.239 --> 01:11:00.239
lots of energy to keep going. And so that is

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why you're finally seeing this actual market case for nuclear power,

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01:11:05.560 --> 01:11:08.760
because nuclear energy could have lowered our electricity costs a long,

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01:11:08.800 --> 01:11:11.479
long time agome. Yeah, exactly, they could have taken dollars

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off your bill. But because of the you know, hangover

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from the Cold War, these anti nuclear activists have been

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standing in the way for years. They call themselves green environmentalists,

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despite the fact that real carbon emissions from nuclear energy,

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you know is yes, you know, there could be catastrophes,

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but there have been three or four total in all

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of the history of nuclear energy. And I know it's

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scary because it makes the headline, but in general, it's

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actually one of the safest, cleanest forms of energy. And

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we're finally at a point where we have no choice.

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These data centers need energy. So Microsoft is bringing a

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nuclear reactor back online that was shut down in Pennsylvania.

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We're going to see one, i think in the middle

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of Iowa as well as Meta is building a new

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data center. And one of the reasons why we need

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to have an AI moratorium and stop these states from

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regulating and getting in the way is I'm mentioning all

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these big tech companies because they're the ones who have

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the capital to build these things. Smaller tech companies competitors

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that put pressure on them, stuff like perplexity AI. Think

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01:12:06.640 --> 01:12:09.039
about open AI. You think about a lot of these

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these new entries to the market that are going to

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put downward pressure on price, that are going to create

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the kind of competition that really drives excellence. Right once,

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we're hurt by excessive regulation by states. At the end

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of the day, if California does something terrible, the tech

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companies from Silicon Valley are going to figure out a

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way to deal with it. They don't want it, but

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01:12:28.520 --> 01:12:30.279
like they will live with it at some point and

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they can afford to do it. This is always what

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happens to the regulation. It's thought to be targeted at

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the big guys, but it always hurts the little guys

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01:12:37.039 --> 01:12:39.600
who are coming to put competitive pressure on them and

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deliver benefits to consumers through through lower prices through But.

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01:12:42.840 --> 01:12:44.800
Those little guys are moving out to other states that

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are more business friendly and they're friendly or to your point,

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I agree. What what do you think in terms of

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I mean, one of the I guess the downside propositions

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of AI is it's going to replace jobs. I don't

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necessarily see it that way. Maybe I'm myopic. Maybe you

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can help me understand here, because, like you know, the

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industrial revolution that occurred in our country, people thought, oh wow,

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I mean, you know, it was going to replace jobs.

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And what it do? It created a and redefined a

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whole new job for us, didn't.

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It absolutely did? And I think that's what we're going

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to see again. Every single time there's spent a major

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labor saving technological breakthrough, you ended up creating more jobs

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than were erased by the single task that is now

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done by a machine. And not only that the tasks

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become easier and better, that we become healthier as a result.

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You know, I don't really think we should go back

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to a world where we had to have children sticking

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their small hands into industrial machinery because they're the only

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ones who could fit our.

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Go back to the underwood, Hunt and Peck typewriter, you know, exactly,

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01:13:52.039 --> 01:13:54.319
throw the word processing out the side, Like, how many

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jobs did we lose during that transition, But you know,

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to your point, it allowed the individual worker to produce

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at a higher level.

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Yeah, exactly. My favorite example is the knocker upper. There

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used to be a job every industrial town in the

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Midwest and in New England where I'm from. All over

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the country, they used to have somebody whose job it

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was to wake up early in the morning. I guess

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they owned a rooster and they would go around and

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they would knock on everyone's windows with a big stick

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because nobody had an alarm clock. Yet the invention of

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01:14:24.119 --> 01:14:26.600
the alarm clock took away this job. I don't think

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01:14:26.640 --> 01:14:28.279
we need to go back to a world without alarm

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01:14:28.279 --> 01:14:30.319
clocks or timers on our phone to wake us up

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01:14:30.359 --> 01:14:33.159
in the morning, just to preserve the knocker uppers.

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There's a so we losed, we lost one knocker upper,

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01:14:37.319 --> 01:14:41.119
but then we created this industry of alarm clock industry,

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01:14:41.199 --> 01:14:44.119
right that created how many more new jobs.

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01:14:43.880 --> 01:14:46.800
Right exactly? Yeah, and that process keeps going now. I

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01:14:46.840 --> 01:14:48.720
don't want to be you know, I don't want to

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01:14:48.760 --> 01:14:51.239
ignore that there are there is a transition period. I mean,

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01:14:51.239 --> 01:14:53.039
this does happen right, there will be people who do

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01:14:53.119 --> 01:14:57.760
need to be reskilled. There will be localized problems with this,

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01:14:57.840 --> 01:14:59.600
and I don't want to diminish that. But that's one

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01:14:59.640 --> 01:15:02.079
of the reasons we need robust GDP growth, which the

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01:15:02.119 --> 01:15:04.239
Big Beautiful Bill will help with, which AI innovation will

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01:15:04.279 --> 01:15:06.399
help with, because that generates the wealth that we then

1347
01:15:06.439 --> 01:15:09.359
have we can then use to mitigate some of the

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01:15:09.399 --> 01:15:12.319
problems that happen locally and find ways to create new

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01:15:12.399 --> 01:15:16.319
jobs programs that or training programs, skilling programs. I think

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01:15:16.319 --> 01:15:18.680
Florida has done a great job through its Department of

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01:15:18.720 --> 01:15:21.119
Labor of focusing on that rather than trying to keep

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01:15:21.159 --> 01:15:24.880
people on permanent government dependency and exactly you know, direct

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01:15:24.960 --> 01:15:28.239
people you know through Hope Florida and other types of

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01:15:28.359 --> 01:15:30.039
other types of programs like that. I think it should

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01:15:30.039 --> 01:15:32.600
be a model for the country for other states as

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01:15:32.640 --> 01:15:36.279
to how to best get people into new jobs and

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01:15:36.760 --> 01:15:40.199
retain the dignity of work that maintains communities, It holds

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01:15:40.199 --> 01:15:43.640
families together, and it really is is what the basis

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01:15:43.720 --> 01:15:46.239
of the Great American Republic of all these.

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Yeah, we don't want to create ghost towns like you

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01:15:49.119 --> 01:15:52.520
know progressives have done traditionally, where they just wipe out

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01:15:52.600 --> 01:15:55.640
industry and then they say, well, go fend for yourself,

1363
01:15:55.800 --> 01:15:58.760
or you know, like Biden, you know his proposition, it's like,

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01:15:58.920 --> 01:16:00.479
look at we need to get ahead of this. We

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01:16:00.520 --> 01:16:03.600
see this coming, and so right now, what are we

1366
01:16:03.640 --> 01:16:06.640
still at about seven million jobs that are unfilled? So

1367
01:16:08.000 --> 01:16:11.000
we need to figure out, okay, of those seven million,

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01:16:11.239 --> 01:16:13.399
how many of those are going to still stick around?

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01:16:13.760 --> 01:16:17.680
And how do we encourage these young people who are

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01:16:17.720 --> 01:16:20.960
now saying, hey, look at now more than ever again,

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01:16:21.199 --> 01:16:23.359
this is like you said, this stuff is starting to

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01:16:23.359 --> 01:16:25.279
come back. Some of this old school kind of stuff

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01:16:25.279 --> 01:16:29.159
where you're doing on the job training and apprenticeships and

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01:16:29.199 --> 01:16:31.199
that sort of thing is starting to come about and

1375
01:16:31.239 --> 01:16:34.159
people are realizing, hey, I don't need an Ivy League degree.

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01:16:34.239 --> 01:16:37.159
I mean, what is that doing. The only thing that's

1377
01:16:37.159 --> 01:16:40.079
doing is it's saddling me with an incredible amount of

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01:16:40.079 --> 01:16:42.880
tuition debt. And you know, I don't know that Joe

1379
01:16:42.920 --> 01:16:45.720
Biden's coming back soon to forgive any more of it,

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01:16:45.800 --> 01:16:47.720
so that means I may have to pay it off

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01:16:47.800 --> 01:16:48.720
right now.

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01:16:48.840 --> 01:16:51.159
There's another dimension to this, which is that something like

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01:16:51.279 --> 01:16:55.279
eighty percent of all skilled labor in this country are

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01:16:55.359 --> 01:16:59.199
family owned small businesses, and almost all of those are

1385
01:16:59.199 --> 01:17:02.600
maintained by pass from father to son. But when you

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01:17:02.600 --> 01:17:04.640
have a whole generation of sons, you know, the sons

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of electricians and plumbers and elevator installers and all these

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01:17:07.319 --> 01:17:11.000
great you know, high paying, well paying, dignified skilled professions

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01:17:11.079 --> 01:17:13.560
going to college instead of taking over the family business.

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Let's say you get a shortage of elevator installers, which

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01:17:16.319 --> 01:17:17.760
I mean, I don't know if people pay attention to this.

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01:17:17.840 --> 01:17:20.199
We have a critical shortage of elevator installers, and that

1393
01:17:20.319 --> 01:17:23.000
is one of the more random things that you sometimes

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01:17:23.039 --> 01:17:25.159
read about. But like that's actually like a huge problem

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01:17:25.199 --> 01:17:27.359
in America, and we might have accidents and safety problems

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01:17:27.359 --> 01:17:28.760
because of it, and so but.

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Look at and look at look at the payday for

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those operation exactly the money you.

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01:17:33.840 --> 01:17:35.760
Can make six figures by the time you're twenty doing that.

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So there's a lot of great opportunities. I think people

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01:17:38.319 --> 01:17:41.159
are beginning to wake up to this. Certainly, the universities

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01:17:41.199 --> 01:17:44.479
did themselves no favors at all in how they've behaved

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01:17:44.479 --> 01:17:46.960
in the last several years, especially at the Ivy Weeks.

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01:17:46.960 --> 01:17:49.520
I think a lot of the state university systems, particularly

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01:17:49.560 --> 01:17:51.680
in the South and the Midwest, see an opportunity here

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01:17:51.720 --> 01:17:55.439
too to really do back to basics education, job training.

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01:17:55.439 --> 01:17:58.520
In Florida, there's a renaissance of classical education. There's a

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01:17:58.600 --> 01:18:01.520
lot of good stuff happening, and in many ways, I

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01:18:01.520 --> 01:18:03.920
think they're going to start seeing themselves become the preferred

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01:18:03.920 --> 01:18:07.640
institutions for a lot of families, those who you know

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01:18:07.680 --> 01:18:10.199
don't have family businesses that they are beginning to realize

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they need to pass on to their the to the

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01:18:12.319 --> 01:18:14.199
kids so that they can keep they can keep serving

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01:18:14.199 --> 01:18:17.039
the community and to keep those professions alive.

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Exactly. James got a little over a minute left here

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01:18:20.560 --> 01:18:24.600
ATR champion the defunding of public broadcasting and NPR as

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01:18:24.640 --> 01:18:27.520
we know, and of course Donald Trump signed an executive

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voter halting all direct and indirect federal funding to PBS

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and NPR, slashing something like one point one billion dollars

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from the corporation. And that'll be done over the next

1421
01:18:39.159 --> 01:18:43.680
two years. And so as expected, it's their legacy donors

1422
01:18:44.119 --> 01:18:47.800
that are, you know, writing some big checks to try to,

1423
01:18:48.119 --> 01:18:50.760
you know, keep them going and we'll see how that happens.

1424
01:18:51.000 --> 01:18:53.479
I think the next step will be is that maybe

1425
01:18:53.520 --> 01:18:57.680
they need to rebrand and then start allowing for advertisers.

1426
01:18:57.680 --> 01:19:00.239
And when they start allowing for advertisers, then they are

1427
01:19:00.279 --> 01:19:03.560
going to be forced to open up the doors for

1428
01:19:04.880 --> 01:19:07.840
you know, other points of view. Imagine that.

1429
01:19:08.359 --> 01:19:12.079
Yeah, also imagine running a radio station through voluntary contributions.

1430
01:19:12.760 --> 01:19:14.840
You do something like that, right, yeah, yeah, exactly.

1431
01:19:16.199 --> 01:19:16.520
Agree.

1432
01:19:16.640 --> 01:19:18.600
It's so absurd that we've had this in the first place.

1433
01:19:19.079 --> 01:19:21.600
So good on President Trump for leading on this. Good

1434
01:19:21.680 --> 01:19:25.399
on Congress for both passing the recisions package that cut

1435
01:19:25.439 --> 01:19:28.800
its funding for the next couple of years, but also

1436
01:19:28.920 --> 01:19:33.880
when the Appropriations Committee advanced the Appropriations bill hasn't passed yet,

1437
01:19:33.880 --> 01:19:36.439
but it's moving to the floor, they did not restore

1438
01:19:36.439 --> 01:19:38.760
its funding. So those needs sixty votes to pass. They're

1439
01:19:38.800 --> 01:19:42.000
always by partisan. The Democrats did not fight for or

1440
01:19:42.079 --> 01:19:46.039
get a concession from Republicans. They stood firm and actually

1441
01:19:46.039 --> 01:19:49.239
the Corporation Public Broadcasting didn't announce it was closing until

1442
01:19:49.319 --> 01:19:51.680
the day after that bill passed out a committee without

1443
01:19:51.720 --> 01:19:53.760
restoring their funding, So that was the real win there.

1444
01:19:53.880 --> 01:19:55.800
Didn't make as much of a headline, but that's when

1445
01:19:55.840 --> 01:19:57.920
they announced they were closing a couple of weeks ago.

1446
01:19:58.039 --> 01:20:00.000
So and for R and PBS will still be a

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if you like them, Yes, call them up on their

1448
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plunge drive, give them a donation. Maybe they can more

1449
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explicitly run ads. You know, they basically have been for years.

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But the good news is you and I will not

1451
01:20:10.319 --> 01:20:12.119
be forced to pay for them out of our own

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01:20:12.159 --> 01:20:13.600
paychecks exactly.

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He's ATR's federal affairs manager, James Irwin has been our guest. James,

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Hey, good morning, we're back with you. Bill Martinez here

1512
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along with Jeff Camp, the ministry leader, author of Receive. Mister, Jeff,

1513
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how are we.

1514
01:23:35.119 --> 01:23:35.560
Doing, Buddy?

1515
01:23:35.760 --> 01:23:36.119
H good?

1516
01:23:36.239 --> 01:23:36.720
How's it going?

1517
01:23:36.800 --> 01:23:37.000
Bill?

1518
01:23:37.119 --> 01:23:40.079
Hey, it's gone great. Can we talk a football. I'm

1519
01:23:40.119 --> 01:23:43.439
smelling pigskin. It's in the air. I'm excited.

1520
01:23:44.640 --> 01:23:47.960
I feel it in there, and you know, the high school,

1521
01:23:48.239 --> 01:23:51.279
the little leg I'm about to start coaching first graders

1522
01:23:51.760 --> 01:23:55.479
flag football with my son and my grandson. But being

1523
01:23:55.520 --> 01:23:57.960
in the NFL for all those years, we follow the

1524
01:23:58.039 --> 01:24:01.800
NFL really closely and notice that Micah Parson is probably

1525
01:24:01.840 --> 01:24:04.880
the best player other than Dak Prescott on the Cowboys,

1526
01:24:05.039 --> 01:24:07.960
is holding out. He's played great for several years and

1527
01:24:08.000 --> 01:24:10.079
he wants to get paid more like the guys at

1528
01:24:10.119 --> 01:24:12.920
the top of the league, which he is, and it's

1529
01:24:12.920 --> 01:24:15.800
a battle between him and what he thinks he's worth

1530
01:24:16.039 --> 01:24:19.960
and the owner, Jerry Jones, who is a very involved owner.

1531
01:24:20.720 --> 01:24:24.039
Yeah, even though his sons are involved he's still very

1532
01:24:24.079 --> 01:24:27.319
involved in. He was able to dodge a health scare

1533
01:24:27.479 --> 01:24:31.640
himself that has become quite quite prevalent. We've found out

1534
01:24:31.640 --> 01:24:32.880
more about it here recently.

1535
01:24:33.439 --> 01:24:39.760
Yeah, I was watching the Dallas Cowboys documentary on I

1536
01:24:39.760 --> 01:24:42.399
think it's on Netflix, and it just goes in the

1537
01:24:42.399 --> 01:24:44.359
whole story of how he bought the team. You know,

1538
01:24:44.359 --> 01:24:48.119
this Arkansas country Bumpkin loved football's whole life. It was

1539
01:24:48.159 --> 01:24:52.039
his dream and you know, he struck gold with the

1540
01:24:52.079 --> 01:24:54.560
oil to be able to leverage and buy the team.

1541
01:24:54.640 --> 01:24:55.520
He's always lived on.

1542
01:24:55.479 --> 01:24:59.439
The edge and he's more involved than most owners. He's

1543
01:24:59.439 --> 01:25:01.960
done a ton of great things, but playing a bad things.

1544
01:25:02.000 --> 01:25:04.359
And it seems like every bad thing he's done, which

1545
01:25:04.399 --> 01:25:06.319
is the same as me and you and everyone else

1546
01:25:06.319 --> 01:25:11.479
in this world, pretty much relates to pride. And maybe

1547
01:25:11.520 --> 01:25:15.520
that's what's at play right now because his pride won't

1548
01:25:15.560 --> 01:25:19.159
give in to one of his greatest players, who probably

1549
01:25:19.159 --> 01:25:20.760
the whole team and the coaches are like, hey.

1550
01:25:20.640 --> 01:25:23.159
Come on, get him in here, please go on exactly,

1551
01:25:23.159 --> 01:25:24.199
I don't even bring him in there.

1552
01:25:24.479 --> 01:25:27.439
And the show was fascinating because way back at the

1553
01:25:27.479 --> 01:25:29.399
start of the Cowboys, they had this great running back

1554
01:25:29.439 --> 01:25:32.880
Emmett Smith just starting to be a great team, but

1555
01:25:33.520 --> 01:25:35.800
he'd been on a rookie contract without much money, and

1556
01:25:35.840 --> 01:25:37.920
he'd proven himself and he wanted to be paid better,

1557
01:25:38.000 --> 01:25:41.399
and so he held out and Jerry Jones dug in

1558
01:25:41.479 --> 01:25:44.159
his heels, probably out of pride until they lost two

1559
01:25:44.239 --> 01:25:47.640
or three games straight because he had to win because

1560
01:25:47.760 --> 01:25:50.640
I him. He signed him and it turned out great

1561
01:25:50.640 --> 01:25:53.119
and he ended up one of the great greatest careers possible.

1562
01:25:53.159 --> 01:25:57.720
So it's like we get our heels dug in on

1563
01:25:57.840 --> 01:26:01.319
issues that we shouldn't, whether it's marriage or parenting our kids,

1564
01:26:01.920 --> 01:26:06.000
or money in business and of course NFL football.

1565
01:26:06.000 --> 01:26:09.600
Of course, and as we know, pride cometh before the fall.

1566
01:26:10.239 --> 01:26:11.920
I think I think it's interesting to hear, you know,

1567
01:26:12.119 --> 01:26:15.720
these stories about Jerry Jones and also, uh, you know,

1568
01:26:15.760 --> 01:26:19.039
I heard about the negotiations with Dion Sanders and how

1569
01:26:19.079 --> 01:26:22.760
that went, which was quite the opposite because they were

1570
01:26:22.760 --> 01:26:28.079
in there and and Jerry offered him, uh, two prices

1571
01:26:28.760 --> 01:26:31.840
you know for his contract, and Dion goes, I'll take both.

1572
01:26:34.560 --> 01:26:35.920
And guess what he got them?

1573
01:26:36.039 --> 01:26:37.520
He got them both got him together.

1574
01:26:37.600 --> 01:26:39.119
You mean, yeah, exactly.

1575
01:26:39.520 --> 01:26:40.399
Well, you know what.

1576
01:26:40.479 --> 01:26:43.920
When when your pride isn't involved, which it probably wasn't

1577
01:26:43.960 --> 01:26:44.399
back then.

1578
01:26:44.760 --> 01:26:45.560
Yeah. Maybe.

1579
01:26:45.920 --> 01:26:48.119
In fact, it was going to be a coup for

1580
01:26:48.199 --> 01:26:50.640
him to bring Dion to the team, and he was

1581
01:26:50.640 --> 01:26:51.880
going to feel great about it.

1582
01:26:52.560 --> 01:26:52.880
Uh.

1583
01:26:52.960 --> 01:26:57.520
In the case of this linebacker Michael Parsons, I'm I'm

1584
01:26:57.560 --> 01:27:00.000
sure the only probably feels like, hey, I already have him.

1585
01:27:00.159 --> 01:27:02.720
I was great to get him on my team. I

1586
01:27:02.760 --> 01:27:05.399
deserve the benefit of how well he plays and the

1587
01:27:05.439 --> 01:27:09.760
profit that he makes. So it's almost like when you

1588
01:27:09.800 --> 01:27:13.840
don't have it yet, you're willing to be generous and free.

1589
01:27:14.359 --> 01:27:16.880
When you have it, you then say I deserve it,

1590
01:27:16.920 --> 01:27:20.359
I kind of own it, and that that's when pride

1591
01:27:20.439 --> 01:27:23.840
comes in. And you know, pride comes before it not

1592
01:27:24.000 --> 01:27:28.399
just a fall. It comes before a divided relationship and

1593
01:27:28.560 --> 01:27:32.640
pvided relationships are what leads to fall. Like an executive

1594
01:27:32.960 --> 01:27:36.600
who stops listening to his board and only has yes

1595
01:27:36.640 --> 01:27:40.840
people around them. Yeah, it is like broken relationships. They're

1596
01:27:40.840 --> 01:27:43.560
going to lead that person that leader to make some

1597
01:27:43.640 --> 01:27:45.319
dumb decisions and stuff.

1598
01:27:45.359 --> 01:27:47.319
Next next thing. Next thing, you know, you're taking down

1599
01:27:47.359 --> 01:27:49.600
your old cracker barrel sign and you're coming up with

1600
01:27:49.640 --> 01:27:50.279
a new idea.

1601
01:27:50.399 --> 01:27:55.359
Right, Yeah, so you make mistakes when you operate alone,

1602
01:27:55.600 --> 01:28:00.239
which is probably the nature of humanity. God said, I

1603
01:28:00.319 --> 01:28:02.560
made you, and I made you beautiful. It's gonna be

1604
01:28:02.560 --> 01:28:05.399
amazing garden, have fun in it. But we said, well,

1605
01:28:05.479 --> 01:28:07.039
but we kind of like to do it our way,

1606
01:28:07.840 --> 01:28:10.720
which led to doing it on our own, which led

1607
01:28:10.760 --> 01:28:12.720
to Adam and Eve being embarrassed and not even being

1608
01:28:12.720 --> 01:28:14.640
able to get along naked like they were supposed to.

1609
01:28:15.319 --> 01:28:17.159
And then or like they were before.

1610
01:28:17.399 --> 01:28:20.239
Yes, that like they were before, and their kids had

1611
01:28:20.239 --> 01:28:22.079
to be jealous of each other and one of them

1612
01:28:22.159 --> 01:28:24.760
killed the other. So right there we have the division

1613
01:28:24.760 --> 01:28:29.359
of humanity. So it's pride that causes the division and

1614
01:28:29.600 --> 01:28:33.600
arguments and the canceling and the offenses and relationships, and

1615
01:28:33.640 --> 01:28:36.359
then that's what leads to a fall. Because we were

1616
01:28:36.359 --> 01:28:38.359
made for relationship, we were made for unity. We're made

1617
01:28:38.359 --> 01:28:40.920
for teamwork. I need you, you need me. I really

1618
01:28:40.960 --> 01:28:45.239
need Stacy. She balances, she compliments me, et cetera. But

1619
01:28:46.039 --> 01:28:48.960
we just had conversations today. I get frustrated by her

1620
01:28:49.319 --> 01:28:53.720
meticulous standards. Then, Yet it's her meticulous standards to keep

1621
01:28:54.279 --> 01:28:56.000
us from going to jail because I forgot to pay

1622
01:28:56.000 --> 01:28:59.199
our taxes on time. We pick up the kids rather

1623
01:28:59.199 --> 01:29:02.039
than leaving them at school, because I forgot there's a

1624
01:29:02.079 --> 01:29:05.920
million things that she helps me with and I need

1625
01:29:05.960 --> 01:29:07.960
to not think, oh I can do it on my own.

1626
01:29:08.039 --> 01:29:10.079
I need the teamwork and that takes humility.

1627
01:29:10.479 --> 01:29:12.960
Yeah, it does. See, I thought it only happened in

1628
01:29:13.000 --> 01:29:18.199
my house, Jeff, I think it happens to men, right,

1629
01:29:18.239 --> 01:29:24.199
I think so exactly now, I hear you. Yeah, it's

1630
01:29:24.279 --> 01:29:28.600
an interesting situation right now. But the all these things

1631
01:29:28.600 --> 01:29:32.000
that come up in the culture are learning opportunities for us,

1632
01:29:32.239 --> 01:29:34.920
you know, whether it's in football, whether it's in running

1633
01:29:34.920 --> 01:29:39.359
a restaurant, all this other stuff. You know, you almost

1634
01:29:39.399 --> 01:29:43.399
thought that the whole dei ideology had gone by the wayside,

1635
01:29:43.439 --> 01:29:46.560
But oh no, I mean it's it's still here. And

1636
01:29:46.680 --> 01:29:51.199
that's certainly is an ideological pride issue that's being forced

1637
01:29:51.239 --> 01:29:55.800
on people. But you know, it doesn't elevate. It's not godly.

1638
01:29:55.880 --> 01:29:58.000
And as much as that anything that comes from God

1639
01:29:58.359 --> 01:30:01.760
is going to encourage and elevate you, and everything else

1640
01:30:01.840 --> 01:30:04.399
is going to mediocritize you. This is why I resist

1641
01:30:04.600 --> 01:30:07.680
socialism and all the isms and everything like that. I

1642
01:30:07.720 --> 01:30:10.319
don't know. I just was raised that way with nine kids.

1643
01:30:10.640 --> 01:30:13.479
I just Jeff, I got to I cannot stand mediocrity.

1644
01:30:13.840 --> 01:30:17.239
I mean it just it drives me. It drives me

1645
01:30:17.359 --> 01:30:18.119
picking nuts.

1646
01:30:18.439 --> 01:30:21.720
But I don't want mediocrity and relationships, which means I

1647
01:30:21.760 --> 01:30:23.680
need to learn and I need to grow. You talked

1648
01:30:23.680 --> 01:30:26.039
about these are opportunities for learning. I don't think they

1649
01:30:26.039 --> 01:30:30.000
are opportunities for learning unless we actually talk about them exactly,

1650
01:30:30.119 --> 01:30:33.560
will reflect and learn things. I use This is my journal,

1651
01:30:34.880 --> 01:30:40.279
and I write things that I'm processing and experiencing and learning,

1652
01:30:40.399 --> 01:30:44.279
including what the Word of God says about what I

1653
01:30:44.359 --> 01:30:46.960
just went through or where I'm going or what I'm planning.

1654
01:30:47.239 --> 01:30:50.439
And I talk to my friends Greg and Pete every

1655
01:30:50.479 --> 01:30:53.520
single week about the things going on in my life.

1656
01:30:53.600 --> 01:30:55.800
I'll talk to them about the marriage disagreement we had

1657
01:30:55.800 --> 01:31:00.479
this morning. It's that processing with my team that lets

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me learn the lesson and grow and change and do better.

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Football teams they process the past game with each other

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01:31:06.960 --> 01:31:09.720
and with the coaches, and they get better. I think

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01:31:09.760 --> 01:31:11.600
we move so fast and we have so much new

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01:31:11.600 --> 01:31:15.640
information on our phone that we actually don't process what's

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01:31:15.640 --> 01:31:18.079
going on with us. We only want to criticize what

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someone else did wrong. Yeah, I would encourage everyone here

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talk to God about the things that are happening. See

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what the word of God says to you. And talk

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to your very best friend or two or three, including

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your spouse, but especially some guys of the same sex

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if you're a guy, and some women right a same

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gender if you're a woman. Talk to your closest friends

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about your life and the lessons God wants you to teach.

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If you don't process them, you won't gain them. If

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you don't gain them, you won't change, and you'll be

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stuck with mediocrity, which bugs Bill Martinez.

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Oh, by the way, just being vulnerable with you and

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01:31:53.199 --> 01:31:56.920
quite honest. But you know, it's interesting Jeff, that you

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01:31:56.960 --> 01:32:00.399
know in football, you've got plenty of tape, plenty of

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video to look how the game went, what player you know,

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01:32:03.720 --> 01:32:06.159
what guard pulled in correctly when in the wrong direction.

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All those things stick out and you can study and

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01:32:08.880 --> 01:32:12.239
see it. Sometimes you wonder, you go, you know, if

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I had that, you know, for the disill like you

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01:32:15.359 --> 01:32:18.279
and Stacy, if you had a video to me, you

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01:32:18.319 --> 01:32:20.279
probably wouldn't want to see it, but anyway, but still

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01:32:20.439 --> 01:32:23.239
you could break it down and say, Okay, I see

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01:32:23.279 --> 01:32:25.439
what you're talking about. I can see the perception of it,

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01:32:25.479 --> 01:32:29.079
but it might it might be tough on the female types,

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01:32:29.239 --> 01:32:32.159
the women to deal with that kind of situation.

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Well, I don't think I'm responsible for my wife. I'm

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responsible for myself. I mean, yes, I'm responsible to love her,

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but I'm not responsible for her character and her changes.

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I'm responsible for me, my character and how I treat her.

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Which is why I'm saying to everyone, it's not quite

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as hard as you realize. Yes, you don't have film,

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01:32:52.079 --> 01:32:54.199
and you probably wouldn't want it. But if you talk

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about your husbanding or your wife ing, whatever it is,

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your fathering or your mothering, your character traits, and you

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process with your close friends what this last week was like,

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01:33:04.920 --> 01:33:07.439
what that negative instance was like, what a positive thing

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was like, what your plans are, what your personality and

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character is.

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If you process that and talk about.

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01:33:13.439 --> 01:33:18.439
It, you'll get the game film objective self awareness, and

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01:33:18.479 --> 01:33:20.279
then you'll get a little bit of self coaching or

1705
01:33:20.279 --> 01:33:23.359
maybe even some coaching from them wise counsel to change.

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01:33:23.399 --> 01:33:26.920
That's why I'm so passionate for this level five deepest

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level friendship.

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Right and the other thing too. Then you'll hear from

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the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit is so dugne,

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01:33:32.720 --> 01:33:36.239
always on point and so convicting. You know, have you

1711
01:33:36.279 --> 01:33:37.680
ever argued with the Holy Spirit?

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You don't win.

1713
01:33:39.479 --> 01:33:45.000
But the Holy Spirit, patient and persistent, usually speaks with

1714
01:33:45.079 --> 01:33:47.600
a small voice, which is why we should quiet our

1715
01:33:47.640 --> 01:33:50.479
lives a little bit and listen to the word of God.

1716
01:33:51.239 --> 01:33:53.079
Go outside and take a walk with God and hear

1717
01:33:53.119 --> 01:33:57.319
what he's saying. Listen to our spouse, and process your

1718
01:33:57.359 --> 01:34:03.000
life with some friends. Did close, consistently connected friends where

1719
01:34:03.079 --> 01:34:05.960
you talk honestly about what you're doing and what's how

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01:34:05.960 --> 01:34:06.399
it's going.

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01:34:07.000 --> 01:34:07.319
Yeah.

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01:34:07.479 --> 01:34:09.520
I remember one conversation I had with the Spirit of

1723
01:34:09.560 --> 01:34:12.600
God and I didn't even get a chance to talk.

1724
01:34:13.560 --> 01:34:15.159
He just told me. He just told me. It was,

1725
01:34:15.239 --> 01:34:17.319
you know, kind of a situation like you're talking about

1726
01:34:17.319 --> 01:34:21.279
with you and Stacy and mon and I were dealing

1727
01:34:21.279 --> 01:34:24.479
with some stuff and I'm like going and the spirits

1728
01:34:24.520 --> 01:34:26.960
is shut up. I said, what do you mean shut up?

1729
01:34:27.119 --> 01:34:31.119
Didn't you hear her? Shut up? And so then I

1730
01:34:31.159 --> 01:34:33.520
had to, you know, I had to approach it. I

1731
01:34:33.520 --> 01:34:35.399
had to come up with a whole different game plan, Jeff,

1732
01:34:35.880 --> 01:34:38.159
And you know what I'm saying, because it was like,

1733
01:34:38.399 --> 01:34:40.840
wait a minute, what do you mean shut up and

1734
01:34:40.920 --> 01:34:43.840
so then you know, the Spirit of God takes me

1735
01:34:44.439 --> 01:34:47.720
through when Jesus was being you know, persecuted, you know,

1736
01:34:47.840 --> 01:34:50.399
hair being pulled out of his beer, his hair, he slapped,

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01:34:51.199 --> 01:34:53.560
you know, all kinds of stuff that happened to him,

1738
01:34:53.760 --> 01:34:59.520
and repeatedly he says, he says nothing. Jesus said nothing.

1739
01:35:00.199 --> 01:35:05.079
In the Spirit of God says, see, don't say anything. So,

1740
01:35:06.319 --> 01:35:08.920
for what it's worth, that was my conversation with the

1741
01:35:08.920 --> 01:35:09.399
little and I.

1742
01:35:09.439 --> 01:35:12.079
Ark of standing else on this ten minute segment other

1743
01:35:12.119 --> 01:35:17.000
than let's listen to the spirit, amen, let's process how

1744
01:35:17.000 --> 01:35:20.039
we're doing with our best friends. And if you want help,

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go to my website because I'm really intent on helping

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you build the trusting, consistent, level five friendships that make

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us better as team players. That's you know what the

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what they'll get at Jeff kempteam dot com and the

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website from men as men Huddle dot com.

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Jeff camp is always appreciate the time and insight my friend.

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Take care, God bless Thanks Bill.

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While we're back with you fourteen minutes before the top

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of the hour, right now. Good to have you with us,

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sharing a part of your day. For more info on

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the show, you can check it out Bill Martinez Live

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dot com. Right now, now, we're going to check out

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Nicole Hunt from Focus on the Family who joins us now.

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Nicole is the attorney who serves as a writer and

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spokesperson at Focus on the Family. Nicole, good morning to you.

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Hey there, Good morning, hey, Good to.

1832
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Have you with us. Time to talk about parents winning

1833
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a critical religious freedom victory. Tell us about this what's

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going on?

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Right So, this really was a very significant win, not

1836
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just for Pence but for everyone in the pro life community.

1837
01:40:32.359 --> 01:40:35.840
The case is called Medina vi Parenthood, and it was

1838
01:40:35.880 --> 01:40:40.079
a six to three decision in favor of Sarline being

1839
01:40:40.119 --> 01:40:44.000
able to defund planned parenthood, which really is going to

1840
01:40:44.039 --> 01:40:47.359
create a pathway not just for other states to follow

1841
01:40:47.439 --> 01:40:51.119
the model, but for Congress to finally stop using taxpayer

1842
01:40:51.159 --> 01:40:54.039
dollars to subsidize planned parenthood once and for all.

1843
01:40:54.439 --> 01:40:57.840
Well, this is huge that this has come across. Again,

1844
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we've been engaging battles, one battle at a time. I

1845
01:41:01.880 --> 01:41:05.039
know some people thought, okay, look at roeby Wegg went

1846
01:41:05.079 --> 01:41:07.760
back to the States. Hey, honky dory, all is good.

1847
01:41:07.800 --> 01:41:09.880
Don't wait a minute. Stop now, this this was just

1848
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the beginning. I mean, welcome to your baccalaureate. Right, it's

1849
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not the end, so to speak.

1850
01:41:15.880 --> 01:41:16.880
Oh, very true.

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01:41:16.920 --> 01:41:19.239
And the truth is is that this decision, it really

1852
01:41:19.239 --> 01:41:22.920
does affirm the fact that state governments and even the

1853
01:41:22.920 --> 01:41:27.000
federal government they have the authority to define who a

1854
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qualified medical provider is. And it firms the dedicator recipients

1855
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they can't just do because they didn't get access to

1856
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the people that they wanted.

1857
01:41:38.079 --> 01:41:40.640
Well, how is this going to affect? You know, California

1858
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has had a bill and I think they've they've kind

1859
01:41:43.399 --> 01:41:46.600
of postponed it, but it was before you know, the

1860
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state there which was going to allow anybody to control

1861
01:41:52.840 --> 01:41:56.199
your children outside of the mother and father at school.

1862
01:41:56.199 --> 01:41:58.359
They could have been the you know, the nurse, It

1863
01:41:58.359 --> 01:42:02.199
could have been anyone just about I mean, the broad

1864
01:42:02.720 --> 01:42:06.880
spectrum of people that could control your son or daughter's

1865
01:42:07.199 --> 01:42:10.720
sexual health was extraordinary, Nicole.

1866
01:42:12.520 --> 01:42:15.640
Right, And that's true. I think we've heard recent cases

1867
01:42:15.640 --> 01:42:19.039
out of Loud and County of students potentially being encouraged

1868
01:42:19.079 --> 01:42:24.199
to get abortions during the school day. So this prevalent,

1869
01:42:24.319 --> 01:42:28.359
the prevalence of this ideology is still very active in

1870
01:42:28.399 --> 01:42:30.680
a lot of or society, which is why parents to

1871
01:42:30.680 --> 01:42:33.359
continue to stay vigilant and to be very involved in

1872
01:42:33.800 --> 01:42:37.800
their children's lives, and especially involved in the schools because

1873
01:42:38.479 --> 01:42:42.439
in a lot of these schools, they even privately run schools,

1874
01:42:42.720 --> 01:42:46.760
if they are into a woke ideology, then they could

1875
01:42:46.800 --> 01:42:49.319
be potentially exposing our children to things that we don't

1876
01:42:49.319 --> 01:42:52.239
want them exposed to. What's really important with regard to

1877
01:42:52.279 --> 01:42:55.680
this decision and how it's going to impact families and

1878
01:42:55.680 --> 01:42:59.279
and impact abortion availability in general, is that when an

1879
01:42:59.319 --> 01:43:04.119
organization that provides abortion is being subsidized by federal tax

1880
01:43:04.159 --> 01:43:07.079
paying dollars to be able to provide services, that then

1881
01:43:07.199 --> 01:43:10.600
opens up the floodgates for them to put those dollars

1882
01:43:10.680 --> 01:43:15.279
towards selling abortions, or I would argue also putting those

1883
01:43:15.359 --> 01:43:21.079
dollars towards campaigning for abortion constitutional amendments, especially in states

1884
01:43:21.119 --> 01:43:25.239
that protect preborn babies. This is very, very significant, and

1885
01:43:25.279 --> 01:43:28.800
it's going to have very long lasting implication. If Planned

1886
01:43:28.800 --> 01:43:33.239
Parenthood can't put millions of dollars into passing abortion amendments

1887
01:43:33.279 --> 01:43:37.079
and trying to change pro life laws, well that's going

1888
01:43:37.119 --> 01:43:40.880
to impact not just whether or not abortions are available,

1889
01:43:40.920 --> 01:43:43.159
but it's going to impact our culture. It's going to

1890
01:43:43.159 --> 01:43:45.600
impact the way that we think about abortion, and ultimately

1891
01:43:45.640 --> 01:43:47.960
it's going to impact what we in the pro life

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movement want to do most, which is we want people

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to think abortion is unthinkable. And so these are all

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important steps to cut off the funding that Planned Parenthood

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is using to try to prop up a bortion and

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to change the moral understanding of whether or not it's

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right or wrong.

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And the other thing we're not even addressing here, Nicole,

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is the whole industry. The abortion industry. Okay, it's one

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thing that you go in and you kill your child,

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but then you have these facilities that are selling the

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parts of your child that's just been aborted like a

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used car part, you know. And you know Gosnell he

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was you know, that case came forth and arrested and

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he was convicted. He just said, hey, look at I'm innocent.

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And I know sooner or later, you guys are going

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to accept this. And you know, here we are down

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further down the road than we ever expected because when

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he made that statement, we said, how ludicrous. And then

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we found out how dark the industry is, and people

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are slowly but surely waking up. And I think this

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is where we are right now this country, is that

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we are in a season of exposure where the truth

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is hitting us right square in the face, right and so, okay,

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what are you going to do about it? Because you know,

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it's one thing that they're making all this money in,

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you know, selling abortions, but there's a whole nother profit

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center for them. As disgusting it is, sound, but you

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got to wake up and smell the coffee, ladies and gentlemen.

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They're selling baby parts, that's right.

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And you know, I think that when we're talking about

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federal taxpayer dollars going to subsidize organizations that do that well,

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guess what. Congress absolutely has the right to say. You

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know what, I don't think that we are duly elected

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representatives of the people, and we don't like the idea

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of continuing to fund an organization that is doing these

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sorts of things. And so it's very interesting. We're going

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to see what plays out at the federal level, of course,

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because we know that in this one year funding stop

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that Congress passed, Claim Hurnhood has already filed several lawsuits

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and they're challenging whether or not Congress has the authority

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to do that. I would be remiss if I didn't

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mention that one of the things I really love about

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this decision in this case is that it really was

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a practice of judicial restraint because what Planned Parenthood wanted

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the court to read into it was that somehow, even

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though Congress did not create an explicit right for a

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medicaid recipient to sue, that they wanted the court to

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read that right into the language. And so what the

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court did was they demonstrate constraints. They said, you know what,

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if Congress wants to create an explicit right to sue,

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then they will, and in this case they did not.

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So we're not going into practice judicial activism and become

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legis ourselves and do that. And so I think what

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we see here is that Congress has the right, the

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Court is respecting the right that Congress has to create law,

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and the Court is simply interpreting the law. So I

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think what we can be grateful for right now is

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that there is a Supreme Court that respects the separation

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of powers that is established by.

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The US Constitution.

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And we can be hopeful that as this case makes

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its way up to the Supreme Court, that we're going

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to have a court that respects the fact that Congress

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decided that it didn't want a fund plan parenthood for

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this year, and it's going to respect the fact that

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Congress doesn't want to do it and they won't force

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them to do it.

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Well, ladies, gentlemen, I hope you're hearing what Nicole is

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saying is that the next move and pressure point is Congress,

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which really activates we the people. Look at it. If

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you want if you don't want to pay for abortions,

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you don't want your hard earned tax money to be

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paying for abortions setting up an industry that sells baby parts,

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then you need to stand up. You need to activate

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your citizenship because this is a government of for by

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we the people, though we're being told something else. You know,

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the Communists and Marxists that are trying to take over

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this country want us to believe different and will end

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up being forced to believe it whether you like it

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or not if you don't step up and put pressure,

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you know, pressure on your elected official by writing, calling,

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doing whatever it takes. I mean, can you not give

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five minutes out of your week to contact your local representative,

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federal representative and say no on planned parenthood, no on abortions,

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no on even you know, all these decisions they are

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being done with you. And I didn't even talk about abortifacians.

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I mean, what is going on with that? Because that's

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crossing state lines. I think of all these young girls,

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I mean how many. I mean we don't even know

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the you know, the breakdown, a demographic breakdown of these

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young girls, but we know that they're young. I mean,

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some are in college and they're doing abortions in their

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dorm room. And here they are, you know, seeing their

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baby dumped in a toilet. How do you unsee that

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for the rest of your life?

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Yeah?

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No, that's right.

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And we also didn't talk about the fact that the

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little sisters of the poor, they're having to go back

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to the Supreme Court make the case that they shouldn't

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be forced to pay for some else's abortion because of

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their deeply held religious beliefs. This is Constitution, one oh woman,

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and yet we're having to defend these rights. So it

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is so important that not only are we putting people

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in Congress who respect those rights, we're putting people in

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the Court, and we're putting people in the White House.

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Back to religious.

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Freedom and the rights that people got to fund.

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Abortion, Nicole, what's wrong with the Constitution? I mean a

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lot of people are asking, you know, we got these

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activist judges that are turning the Constitution on its head

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at every turn. I mean, this is getting to be

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so ridiculous. But again, if you don't say something and

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do something about it, these activist judges feel like they

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can get away with this. I mean, it's just absurd

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what they're doing. But you've got to speak up, right,

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that's right.

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And of course nothing is wrong with the Constitution. Thank

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god that it's there, because it is the guardrails. But

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the interpreters of those rights are our judges, and so

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it is very important whether we're looking at the constitution,

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they're interpreting constitutional law. We want a judge who appreciates

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separation of powers, federalism, and judicial restraint. And so those

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are the types of judges that need to be in

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position of authority. And the person who appoints those is

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of course the President of the United States.

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Right.

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And of course here we've got the midterms coming up,

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and ladies, gentlemen, look at if you believe in conservatism

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and religious values, then you better make sure your vote counts.

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Make sure you're registered to vote, make sure you vote,

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make sure you let your congressmen and your senators know.

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So the pressure is on. And look at there's freedom

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of speech. There's nothing wrong with telling your family, talking

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to your family about these important issues. If we're going

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to keep America as a free country. Right, I'm going

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to let you wrap it up, tell people that you

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can go for more information. Go ahead, and Nicole, thank you.

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We are out of pivotal crossroads, and more than ever,

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we have the power of a lot of executive orders,

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and of course the power of pro life lawmakers and

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lawmakers affect religious freedom. So This is the time to

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be bold and to have convictions and speak with our

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neighbors and our friends in a way that taces them

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to want to understand more. And so I would encourage

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you to do. On the Family dot Com, there's a

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link there to the Daily Citizen, which is where I

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write and my colleagues write. We write about what does

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it mean to be a Christian and to hear and

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see the news that we're seeing today. How can we

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engage in a way that's going to reflect Christ and

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is going to spread biblical values? And so go there

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to learn more. And thank you so much for having

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me on the show today.

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Bill Well.

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Nicole Hunt, thank you so much for being with us.

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Let's Focus on the Family dot com. She's an attorney

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who serves as a writer and spokesperson at Focus on

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the Family. Nicole Hunt, Thank you, Nicole, God Bless, God Bless.

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