Aug. 8, 2025

The Bill Martinez Show 08 08 25

The Bill Martinez Show 08 08 25
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The Bill Martinez Show 08 08 25
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Are you ready?

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Yeah, Okay, let's do it.

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Bill Martinas Live a program about current events, our culture,

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our values, our politics, and our future.

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And now Bill Martinez, well.

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Good morning to you. Good to have you within us.

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Six minutes after the top of the hour. Right now,

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we got Mike Palace from ATR joining us. Hey, Mike,

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how you doing?

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Do it well? A building to see again.

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He always good to be talking with you. Two hundred days,

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the first two hundred days of Trump, and he's got

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everybody's head whirling, especially on the left. They don't want

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to make of it. They're kind of happy for this

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break so they can breathe. But then you know, there's

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more coming down the pipeline.

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Right, That's it.

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The best thing you can do to drive the other

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team craziness to keep winning another we see Trump administration

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do from passing his signature legislation I think six months

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or forty one realistically thought it got it done, and

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then moving at warp speed, deregulating the economy. A lot

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of wins for the Trump administration.

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But what a contrast it demonstrates to the voter. Mike, right,

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I mean, when you see all the wins and then

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what are the Democrats doing. They're just whining and complaining,

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and now they've reduced themselves to oh, justs cussing.

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That's right. They're used to the pace of the Biden administration,

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which is a little slow and doddering. I don't think

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they're quite ready for how quickly the Trump administration has

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been moving.

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Well, yeah, they're going, Hey, what happened to our afternoon naps?

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That's right.

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Yeah, Well, as you said, I mean, the first two

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hundred days, it makes you can't help but wonder, well, this,

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if this has been going on and we see other

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things in the pipeline just around the corner, what's the

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next two hundred days going to bring besides maybe the

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gray matter of Democrats all over the walls.

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Well, what's really exciting is the good thing about winning

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is that he gets more winning. Yes, So you have

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the sentiment with Republicans in Congress right now is that

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they're very happy with the way the one big beautiful

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bill went through that they're now talking about moving towards

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a second reconciliation package, meaning more tax cuts, more spending,

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I think primarily focused in the healthcare space, and they're

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gon't mean to get something done possibly as early as

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this fall or early next spring.

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Well they're talking, I mean, well they were very optimistic

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before and talking as many as two additional bills before

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the end of the year. I don't know if they'll

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quite get there. You know. The particularly the sent is

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having a very difficult time with the Democrats because they

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really don't want to do their business. I mean they're

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acting like the Democrats in Texas. They want to go

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leave town and go find some other city they can

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reside in for a while.

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On.

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Yeah, and that's you saw right before the August break here,

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Democrats up until the last minute, really in an unprecedented way,

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blocking a lot of you know, mid level Trump appointments,

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not necessarily cabinet secretaries, but the undersecretaries, right, not usually

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politically the case that you see a lot of you know,

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political maneuvering going on there, but just because how whipped

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up their bases, they're doing everything they could to try

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to delayed Trump from fully staffing his administration, which of

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course means that's just the lose loss for the country.

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So frustrating to see them playing politics to that degree.

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Well, it is because they had an opportunity here, I

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mean the things that the Republicans and Donald Trump were

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presenting were eighty twenty issues, and each of the time,

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I mean even on ninety ten issues, the Democrats were

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you know, they just stubbornly chose to be on the

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wrong side here. And you know that's really I mean,

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you talk about what's good for democracy, that's not good

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for democracy. Not only are you not willing to you know,

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to engage, even to even say, hey, let me offer

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an amendment, let me at least somehow be associated with

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that big, beautiful buildies. I can go back home and say, hey,

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we didn't get everything, but look what I got for you.

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At least I got something. But all they've got to

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show is just anger and bitterness. And they've lost their

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minds to such a degree, Mike, that now they're backing socialists.

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And you see it where they have no message point

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to Mamdonnie in New York, the outright communist essentially running there.

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The only thing that they can point to is what

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they know the issue they caused, because Mmdonnie is running

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on cost of living right, which we know is from

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bite inflation. So they're even trying to reinvent themselves out

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in the wilderness right now. It's frustrating when it comes

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to policy and for the American people you mentioned the

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one big beautiful bill. What really frustrates us is they

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will play this game again and again where they say

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Trump only cut taxes for the wealthy and big corporations,

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but they will never mention what is the specific tax

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provision that they oppose, Because what was going to happen

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at the Trump task cuts expire was across the board,

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every income hit with a tax increase, higher brackets, higher rates,

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stan in deduction cut in half. Democrats should, in theory,

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want none of that to happen, but they won't pay

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attention to it, and they all voted against extending that.

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They flat out ignored it. Mike, where she yet, I

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mean that's the thing, that's just I mean, what does

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that tell their constituents? Right?

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Yeah?

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And of course, if you look at what Kamala Harris

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and Joe Biden both campaigned on this bogus promise that

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we knew wasn't sure anyway, but they at least have

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to pay lip service to that they weren't going to

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raise taxes on anyone earning under four hundred thousand dollars

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and then they just voted against a tax increase that

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about eighty five percent of which would have impacted people

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below that that threature so extremely frustrating, and again they

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will never actually talk about what's the provision in this

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bill that they opposed.

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Well, and like you said, and I hope that people

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caught this mic, is that what Trump is doing and

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what he did with a big, beautiful bill was unwind

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the policies that Joe Biden had subjected us with.

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Yeah, that's exactly right. And what drove those policies you

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look at it was the overspending coming out of starting

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with their fake COVID bill, the American Rescue Plan Act,

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Oh my god, and then the misnamed Inflation Reduction Act. Instead,

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what you got here, smaller government, tax, government, taking less

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money out of your pocket, letting you keep more of

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your own money to address cost of living. And then

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on top of that, the Medicaid reforms they did, I

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think the most significant spending cuts, most significant reform to

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medicaid we've seen in decades. So finally, good to see

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Republicans doing things that they campaigned on, reforming government, cutting spending,

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and heck, we even were able to get rid of NPR.

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Right exactly.

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You talk about the cherry on top here, you know,

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and Mike, the thing is is, and I hope the

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voters really understand this because you know, for Congress and Senate,

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they've got to go home and they've got to sell

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this bill. I mean, it's not like, you know, people

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have just taken it for granted. Oh yeah, okay, And

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you know Republicans can go out and do an eight

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second sound bite and feel like, Okay, I've I've connected

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with the public and my voters and they all understand.

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Heck no, I mean when you got ninety five percent

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of the news being reported from the left, you know,

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MPR included MSNBCCNN, you know, the formerly main mainstream media.

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When you have that kind of bias that's anti Trump,

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an anti Republican, and really anti capitalism, you know, it's

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not a slam dunk issue, even though in many ways

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it's common sensical. But again, the opposing narrative and the

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reporting by the mainstream media is so negative. It has

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people confused because they believe, based on what they had

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heard is that there were drastic cuts for Medicaid. And

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you've got young people, you know, they're dying out in

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the street and things like that, and Granny once again,

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Granny's over the hill.

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Well, I think this is also where Trump and his

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influence on the party plays such a key role, because

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I can tell you in twenty seventeen, the main consultant

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DC pitch that most lawmakers followed after the tax bill

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was that they just had to pivot and move on

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to something else and fight for it, explain it to

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the public. This time around, I think you've seen a

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much more willing to fight Republican party that's not going

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to just sit back and take punches from the mainstream media.

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They're going out there doing the hard work right now

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during August, doing town hall meetings, going to businesses, dragging

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the media with them, forcing them to cover it, because

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the reality is this is a tax cut massively pro

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growth across the board, every income level. And the good

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news is we are starting to see some of the

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impact already taking effect. So one in an America's tax form,

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we've collected over one hundred examples over the country of businesses, waiters,

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waitresses talking about no tax on tips, what that means

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for their family. And then a great story in the

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Wall Street Journal this week talking about the pro growth elements,

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the new expensing provisions, which are set to increase household

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income by over twenty six hundred dollars in the next

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four years. Business is already announcing the massive savings, it says,

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and then crucially talking about how they're reinvesting it in

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their companies. So it's not just the screwge McDuck game

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that democrats like to pretend it is. These businesses aren't

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sitting on piles of money. They're reinvesting it in their

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workforce and exactly vacting and supply, and they're bringing jobs back.

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Gotta go to quick, Greg, We got more from Mike

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Mike Palace continues with us. You know, Mike, you bring

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up a great point here. In twenty seventeen. You know,

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of course, the Democrats, Nancy Pelosi all I mean, they

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lied about it flat out said, oh, these businesses are

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so greedy, you know, they're just gonna pocket all this

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money they gave, all these tax breaks and stuff. And

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what did they do? Surprisingly, I mean, and surprisingly to

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the Democrats because they don't have a capacity understanding how

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business works, that the most important component of any business

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is the people. So what did the owners, the CEOs

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the company did they put that money they gave it

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in bonuses, they gave people raises, they capitalized their business

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so they could be, you know, get back on solid ground.

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And after eight depressing years of Barack Obama in the

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economy that he did is no help on And they

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responded in a way that the Democrats I mean, and

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they have no shame because they couldn't even come back

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and go, wow, that fooled dust. No, you talk about

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pivoting and moving on. That's exactly what they did because

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they didn't want to talk about that, because they wanted

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to continue to lie, in which to this day they

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still lie about it.

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And that's exactly right. And I think the key point

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here and the good news is you can't trick the

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American people when the economy is doing well.

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They know it.

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So in twenty nineteen, one year after the tax bill

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was and in fact and we started to really get

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the outcomes of its policies, the average the median household

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income increased by six point eight percent. That was more

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growth for people's pocket for their household income than the

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entire Obama administration in one year under Trump's tax cuts.

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That's the type of growth that's the economy people wanted

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to get back to during the by administration. I think

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it's the primary reason Donald Trump was re elected.

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Well, and the thing is Democrats policies said, oh no,

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you're not going to get that six point eight percent,

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that's our money, and they clawed it back. And what

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did they do when they clawed all that money back?

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In my humble opinion, they need to do a forensic

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on this. But I'll guarantee you that money that they

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collected when they went to the printing presses and started

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rolling off one hundred dollars bills out of the presses

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and stuff, was to pay back political debts, money that

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they had lost in big numbers in backing Hillary Clinton

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and the Democratic donor base that you know, you olways,

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we you know, sat back for four years under Trump.

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But now it's time to pay upsukka. And they paid

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a big time at the expense of the American people.

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Inflation goes up, we're you know, out of control, our

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economies in the ditch. And what is Joe Biden sleepy Joe?

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He could care less. It was like, hey, he was

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just happy. He took care of the donor base that

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allowed him to come up with another what one billion

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plus for Kamala.

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If you want to look at democrats wheeling and dealing

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for their own self interest and you want to talk

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about what's actually a tax giveaway for the wealthy, is

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that Democrats came into office and the core part of

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their legislation was to spend about eight hundred billion dollars

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subsidizing electric vehicle purchases, massive giveaways to the wealth. These

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are luxury cars. The legislation allowed to claim the credit

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up to an eighty thousand dollars vehicle. Those were overwhelmingly

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primarily benefiting wealthy Americans. Thankfully, this is another bad policy

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that was repealed to pay for good tax cuts in

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Trump's One Big, Beautiful bill. So that's I think the

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strongest example of Democrat hypocrisy I can think of.

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Well, yeah, exactly. And the other thing that, you know,

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one of the things they did, oh my gosh, she

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still drives me nuts. Eight billion dollars for charging stations, right,

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and they only built and they only built I think eight,

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and I think only two are still working.

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And I think they had Pete Boudagette visit every single

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one of them.

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grand home. Yeah, fairy of energy. Right, she took her posse.

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She was going to show how convenient it was in driving,

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you know, across country in her electrical vehicle. What what

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a fiasco that was, right, Yeah.

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And then, of course, just months after that, you have,

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as soon as we get to the winter, these stories

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of up in New England, people's electric vehicles freezing because

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people have to learn that their battery has way less

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power in the winter months because it's cold. So you

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get people getting stuck on that.

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I don't jo don't have a three hundred and fifty

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mile range anymore. Now it's down to you know, I'm

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lucky to get three hundred right.

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Yeah, that's exactly right. And you know, I think you

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saw it's good that Republicans took a stand here. I

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think giving them credit, with a very narrow majority, were

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able to get rid of this government large ass and

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I think that's something past Republican parties, the pre Donald

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Trump party, would have keeped on. They didn't well.

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And the other thing too, as you recalled what happened

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in twenty seventeen, if you remember the things, you know

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that whole program was so resisted in everything, so terribly

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by the Democrats, that had drug on and those policies

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weren't able to be enacted until the following year. That's

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why it took so long for people to realize the

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full benefit. Trump said, not this time around. I want

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that bill by July the fourth, inside of is what

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one hundred and twenty days. I want that bill. I'm

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going to sign that bill. And the Republicans, as you said,

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they went in the ring and they're not used to fighting,

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and they got knocked out a couple times. Trump threw

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water on them, picked them up, and threw them right

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back in the middle of the ring.

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And Trump and Republicans they learned from that lesson in

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twenty seventeen too, where not only did they get this

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bill done as soon as they can and get this

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done by July fourth, but they made key provisions retroactive

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so that they apply at the beginning of this year.

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So we're talking about Democrat lies around this bill. One

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of the worst lies they told the American people in

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twenty seventeen was telling them, how, oh, look at your

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smaller tax refund because of this bill, without explaining the

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fact that that's actually a good thing that you don't

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want to be giving the government an interest free loan

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that they're getting to borrow your money for free this

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time around. Though, however, for a good reason, Americans can

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actually expect a bigger tax refund because of the retroactive

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nature of these provisions. Your standard production is going to

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increased by fifteen hundred dollars for a married couple, right

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all things that tax withholdings haven't taken into effect yet.

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So you can actually be prepared to expect a bigger

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tax reform this year because wisely made these provisions to

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begin at the beginning of twenty twenty five.

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And when you got to imagine, like you said, you've

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got no tax on tip, no tax, no tax on

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Social Security. All this stuff is being realized. And as

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you mentioned earlier, and ATR has been going around talking

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to people these testimonials that you got from people at

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the ground level, saying, Hey, this is what the big

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beautiful bill is doing for me right now. I mean,

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I'm paying less for eggs, my energy costs are declining.

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Things look up for us. And yes, people are a

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little nervous because of again the fake reporting that's coming

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out of the media. They're doing. It's no favors whatsoever

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regarding tariffs. Look, look what we've got. I think we're

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up to about we're over one hundred and fifty billion

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in tariffs that we're collecting right now. So and they

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think by the end of the year somewhere to fifty

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maybe three hundred total.

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I mean yeah.

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And again it's a companied by massive spending cuts that

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we've seen from Republicans. More recision packages on the way too.

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So I think it was a great thing. The Republicans

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immediately addressed some of the concerns of the debt and

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devsit following this bill, what do they do the week

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following that they passed a nine billion dollar annual spending

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cut and achieving long term Republican victories like finally ensuring

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we're not subsidizing NPR, right exactly, focus on that, and

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I think they'll be back for more.

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And they should be, because that was such a small

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percentage of what Doge had exposed, right, and that's what

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was frustrating Elon Musk and others, And I think taxpayers

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were waiting to see, Okay, do the Republicans have the

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nerve because the Democrats like anything, I mean, even for

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what nine billion dollars they were in the fetal position,

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screaming and kicking and guzzing. And you know, for what

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I mean that that's just a small I think that

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was about one percent of what DOES had exposed.

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Yeah, and they were, of course they were there. Their

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best line of attack they could come up with was

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the idea that you know, all Republicans are going to

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get rid of Sesame Street itself. Of course a ridiculous law.

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And you can watch Sesame Tree on multiple platforms right now.

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But yeah, no, I think it's what you're seeing across

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the board right now. Democrats continue to struggle and they

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don't know how to respond to the success of the

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Trump administration, especially in the economic space, because it's where

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they know they ruined things so poorly under Joe Biden,

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and they don't know what their message or their policy is.

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Well, the Democrats are reaping what they've sown. They have

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obliterated their brand, their identification as a party. They don't

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know who they are so much so that they've abandoned

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solid mid mainstream principles for communism.

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Yeah, it's crazy to see, and I think it's going

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to be sad to see what happens in New York

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city with who they elect here. But I think that

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is a sign of where Democrats are headed, and all

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you have to do is listen to them, because, like

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I said, I think largely right now they're out of ideas.

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They're seeing this one guy getting attention, and I think

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if we just zoom out and look at the trend

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of Democratic Party, it's been moving farther and farther left.

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And I think this is just the newest iteration. You're

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going from AOC to a guy who's you know, openly

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embracing Marxism.

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Now right exactly, Well, we've gone from guys in the

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cabinet in dresses to being able to acknowledge a beautiful, blonde,

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blue eyed girl in jeans. I think things are looking

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up for us, Mike. I just want.

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I think it is a sign too that the that

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the woke America, the moment has passed, and I think

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we're on to better things now.

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Amen to that. He's with Americans for Tax Reform. He's

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the tax policy director of Mike pala let's just been here. Mike,

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Thank you so much for being with us. Take care

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of my friend.

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Hey, we're back with you, Bill Martinez. Here twenty eight

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minutes before the top of the hour. We've got the

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Fox News contributor, Manhattan based one and only, Deroy Murdoch. Hey, Deray,

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how you.

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Doing, buddy?

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Pretty good? Bill? How are you good to talk to you?

541
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Hey, always good to talk to you. You know, what

542
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is it about the Democrats? I mean, here, one of

543
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their own former Democrat turns Republican. I mean a guy

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that they went to and kissed his ring for many

545
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years to get money from him. They never thought that

546
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he would ever be elected, but he gets elected, and

547
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he just causes them brain damage to no end. And

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that party has never been the same since Donald Trump

549
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and Missus Trump came down the escalator.

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No, it's look, these guys are so consumed with hatred

551
00:28:34.759 --> 00:28:37.920
and disgust and revulsion for Donald J. Trump that they

552
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can't think straight. Now, it's perfectly fine for them to

553
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be the loyal opposition and to explain why they think

554
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Trump's program is not going to be effective or not

555
00:28:49.079 --> 00:28:51.319
the best way forward for our country, whatever, and so

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therefore let's do this, that or the other and present

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an alternative. Maybe it's something you and I might not like.

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Maybe they might have an idea or two that you

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and I might think, well, that interesting, But these guys

560
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do not have any program. They never offered in contrast

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to the big beautiful bill which passed I guess last

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month in July, fourth of July. You know, this is

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our lovely, luscious bill or whatever with whatever goodies and

564
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concepts and ideas that they want and try to push

565
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that as an alternative. I talked to somebody who is

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a Democrat in California, Los Angeles area, and he said

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he went to some sort of a fundraiser and the

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House Democrat leader Hacking Jeffreys is there, and somebody said,

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you know, what's your agenda, what's your program, what's your

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alternative to what Trump's promoting? And he said, oh, we

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don't have one. We're just going to attack Trump.

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And actually he actually said that.

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He actually said that, and these Democratic donors were livid.

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They said, we're not showing up and writing checks for

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you know, five and ten and fifteen, twenty thousand dollars

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to hear the head of the Democrats in the House say,

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we don't have an agenda, we have no program, we

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have no policy. We're just going to beat up on

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Trump NonStop. And these liberal Democrats said, this is ridiculous.

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We're not going to give another penny to you guys

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until you guys come up with something anything other than

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we hate Trump and Trump is suck and Trump is evil.

583
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So the Democrats have had something like six and a

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half months to come up with some alternative to their

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views on Trump other than Trump is evil, Trump is

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hip or whatever, Orange Man bad. That's all they've got.

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And you think after six and a half months it's

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they'd say, all right, well, here's our new health proposal,

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or here what we want to do an education, or

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here's our ideas, here are ideas on taxes or anything.

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And these people have nothing to offer other than we

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hate Trump and Trump is evil and Republicans are you

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know the KKK or whatever it is I mentioned earlier.

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I mean, do you want me to pick up that

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thing about the cocktail party? Did you get that or

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do you missed that?

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Yeah? Yeah, no, I got I got that. I got

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the cocktail party.

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That's okay, all right, So I think we'll have to

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edit all this stuff. But anyway, ask me another question.

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We'll keep going Well, the thing is is that which

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is surprising to me, Well, it's not really surprising. I mean,

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they're really kind of lost. They're they're leaderless, and that's

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pretty shocking that you would have the leader of the

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House on the Democratic side have nothing to offer, as

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you said, after months of trying to figure out, Okay,

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what's you know, what's the advantage here? What is Trump doing?

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But the thing that adds to the craziness of it

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all is Trump's going out and hitting home runs. I mean,

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it's one victory after another, and this has to just

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really rack the jaws and the and the next and

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the spines of whatever is left of the Democratic Party,

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I would think.

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I mean, look, whether you agree or disagree with what

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Trump is doing, as you say, it's just one victory

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after another after another. I mean, you have the big,

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beautiful bill get passed in time for his deadline, which

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allowed him to sign it into law on the fourth

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of July. Any few days later, hopped on a plane

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and went over to the i think g seventh Summit

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and got the NATO folks to agree to increase their

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spending to five percent of GDP, up from two percent

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of GDP, and they all went along with that. He

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was in Scotland I think a week or two ago,

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faces zero tariffs getting our stuff into Europe. I mean tremendous.

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And you know, whether you're talking about taxes, whether you're

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talking about trade, whether you're talking about the complete elimination

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of the Iranian nuclear program and other areas, the passage

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of Golden Dome, the protection against incoming missiles, which started

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the Big Beautiful Bill. You know, victory after victory after victory.

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And in contrast, you look at the Democrats. They can't

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point to any victories, they can't point to any alternatives.

633
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They can't point to any ideas, even rough concepts or vague,

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vague principles, I mean nothing. They have nothing to offer.

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And not only people say they don't have a leader. Okay, yeah, correct,

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they don't have any leaders. But they're not ideas. They're

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not pushing. Usually, when the Democrats are out of power,

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they have what they call anytime there's some kind of

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a proposal in the House or the Senate, they have

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a substitute in the nature of an amendment, and they

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basically say, well, we want to take the GOP Bill

642
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and amend it by putting up a big red line

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through every page of the GOP legislation and instead insert

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the amendment, which is whatever the Democrats want. They didn't

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do that in a big beautiful bill. And if I were

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hockeing Jeffreys, I would have said, look, we don't have

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the votes, but let's at least go down fighting. Let's

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at least say this is our vision, this is how

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we see America going forward. We put it on the

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House floor, it gets voted down, and they tell the people, look,

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we pushed it, we offered alternative. We lost. We're going

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to keep pushing that until we get re elected we

653
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can implement this agenda. They're not even doing that at all.

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They're just standing up.

655
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You know.

656
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I think he gave like a twelve hour speech and

657
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just meandered on and on and went ahead and lost

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the vote on the big beautiful bill and didn't even

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have the self respect to say, look, we pushed these

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three or four or five ideas. They didn't prevail, but

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at least we offered the American people alternative to what

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Trump and the Republicans eventually signed into law. They're not

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even doing that. I've never seen the Democratic Yeah, just

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rolling they did what they're doing.

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Now exactly, and they didn't even make an attempt to

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talk to Trump, to even negotiate with him on some

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victory of this big beautiful bill that they could say, hey,

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we did this. Instead, they just made themselves look all

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the worse by not participating in the process. And they

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all they can do is refute the beautiful bill. What

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are you going to refute? I mean, a tax break

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for all Americans. Across the board.

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Yeah, look, I mean they voted against, well, basically voted

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at seentually four the biggest tax increase in American history

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because of the Big Beautiful Bill had not passed. I

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think everyone's taxes would have increased simply the numbers twenty

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eight percent, if I heard correctly. Across the board, they

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voted against money to seal the board. They voted against

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money to build and complete the border wall. They voted

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against no taxes on tips. They voted against no taxes

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and overtime. They vote against no taxes on social security.

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They voted against the Golden Dome to keep Iranian or

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Chinese or Russian whatever missiles from coming in and blowing

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up our country. They voted against various school choice and

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education reform efforts that are part of this bill. Just no, no, no, no,

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no to all these ideas, a lot of the ideas

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that you know, seventy eight exactly support. And they're there

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with you know, waving the flag for their twenty percent

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of the country's you know, hardcore left, and that's all

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they've got showed themselves. It's a pathetic, pathetic performance on

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the part of the Democrat Party, which at this point

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I think is not only irrelevant but really truly a

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force for destruction in the United States of America.

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Well, DROI here they are trying to go after young men,

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and they're telling you that a beautiful, black haired gal

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in blue jeans is in a front and is fascist,

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and you know, it's like, what give me amazing? Yeah?

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This is Sweeny I think is her last names. Uh yeah,

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doing these ads for jeans. And she's blond haired, blue

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eyed and attractive and and I think the line is

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something like I have good jeans or yes, yeah, yeah,

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Now look she's got good jeans. Fine, but that doesn't

703
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say that only people like her have good jeans. Everyone

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else has bad jeans. You know, my dad's ninety three

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years old, he's not a woman, he's a man. He's

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not white, he's black. He's got great jeans. He's ninety three,

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he's in great shape. So she can have good jeans.

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But other people can have good jeans. They didn't assert

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that only white haired, blonde haired, blue eyed people have

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good jeans. And yet again, as the Democrats do, it's

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you know, it's zero to Hitler's in five seconds. And

712
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so this blond hair, blue eyed woman comes out and says,

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I've got good jeans. And so therefore the Republican Party

714
00:36:59.119 --> 00:37:01.440
UH is in favor of the Urmberg claws. And and

715
00:37:01.480 --> 00:37:04.719
I guess uh uh, you know, putting uh the uh

716
00:37:04.920 --> 00:37:07.719
sub humans onto trains and gassing them. It's just crazy.

717
00:37:07.800 --> 00:37:10.000
I heard just the other day there was something This

718
00:37:10.119 --> 00:37:11.760
is a different story, but this is related to the

719
00:37:12.119 --> 00:37:17.480
UH Democrats in Texas complaining about jerrymandering, and some women

720
00:37:17.519 --> 00:37:20.320
equated jerrymandering with the with the Holocaust.

721
00:37:20.960 --> 00:37:23.119
Wow, oh my god, how.

722
00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:27.320
Do you get from from redistricting to genocide in not

723
00:37:27.599 --> 00:37:30.239
you know, not one sentence or two, but within you know,

724
00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:33.360
five six seconds. I mean, these people are are completely

725
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totally unhinged. And I'd say at this point deeply mentally ill.

726
00:37:37.880 --> 00:37:42.000
Well, you know derayah On on Sydney Sweeney. They you know,

727
00:37:42.079 --> 00:37:45.960
they're they're so upset, uh you know, because here it

728
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is what she I guess in their mind, what she represents.

729
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And they're so beside themselves that now they're mad at

730
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her dog.

731
00:37:53.400 --> 00:37:55.039
Oh you hear about the dog. What's wrong with the dog?

732
00:37:55.440 --> 00:37:57.760
Yeah? The dog? They say, the dog is uh you

733
00:37:57.800 --> 00:38:01.079
see you look at the dog. The dog's Hitler ResQue

734
00:38:01.159 --> 00:38:03.719
kind of dog, because he's a I think he's a

735
00:38:03.760 --> 00:38:04.559
German shepherd.

736
00:38:04.880 --> 00:38:09.320
So oh yeah, so every every German shepherd is basically

737
00:38:09.320 --> 00:38:10.760
a relative of ad al f Hitler.

738
00:38:11.039 --> 00:38:11.440
I guess.

739
00:38:11.480 --> 00:38:16.039
So in there unbelievable. I mean, like my sister likes

740
00:38:16.039 --> 00:38:18.039
to say they should get a new hobby. I mean, look,

741
00:38:18.800 --> 00:38:21.840
rather than spend all this time engaging in these these juvenile,

742
00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:25.119
absurd ludicrous I wouldn't We don't even want to call

743
00:38:25.199 --> 00:38:28.239
them arguments but just assertions. Let's say one of these

744
00:38:28.239 --> 00:38:30.800
people sit down in smart shares and say, look, folks,

745
00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:34.239
let's come up with three solid ideas, one on taxes,

746
00:38:34.679 --> 00:38:38.559
one on healthcare, and one on education, and promote that

747
00:38:38.639 --> 00:38:40.320
that will be their little mini agenda and they can

748
00:38:40.360 --> 00:38:42.960
come up with whatever ideas make sense or that they

749
00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:45.000
think are exciting or that will appeal to American people

750
00:38:45.239 --> 00:38:48.039
and promote that instead of running around making fools of

751
00:38:48.079 --> 00:38:53.320
themselves saying that Sydney Sweety's German shepherd is reminiscent of Hitler.

752
00:38:53.320 --> 00:38:55.119
I mean, who believes that this is great?

753
00:38:55.360 --> 00:38:56.360
I mean or.

754
00:38:56.360 --> 00:38:59.639
Innocent dog who probably doesn't vote, probably has no political beliefs,

755
00:38:59.719 --> 00:39:03.119
left Middle arrieties to cute dog, and they're equating the

756
00:39:03.159 --> 00:39:05.639
dog with Hitler. I mean, it's just crazy. And people

757
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758
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These people are buffoons.

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837
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mourdact the Manhattan based Fox News contributor, and uh, just

838
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to kind of put a bow around this whole Sydney

839
00:43:32.519 --> 00:43:35.679
Sweeney deal. You know, the fact of the matter is

840
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to Roy, is that you see the right keeps thinking

841
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and hoping that there's some reason out there. But what

842
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they do is they keep doubling down on idiocy. Look

843
00:43:47.159 --> 00:43:51.440
at the way they're backing Mamdanni and other uh, other

844
00:43:51.559 --> 00:43:54.559
communist candidates in the country up in what in Minnesota

845
00:43:54.639 --> 00:43:58.440
is another one. It's like, and you got Elizabeth Warren,

846
00:43:58.599 --> 00:44:02.159
you know, embracing mom d and all. This is like whoa.

847
00:44:02.239 --> 00:44:05.440
I mean, when you are of that mindset, you can't

848
00:44:05.480 --> 00:44:08.760
sit down and do what you just said. Let's talk

849
00:44:08.800 --> 00:44:13.559
about three things here that you know, we'll put us

850
00:44:13.599 --> 00:44:17.760
on the ninety percent side of the equation as opposed

851
00:44:17.760 --> 00:44:19.840
to the ten or fifteen percent, right.

852
00:44:20.480 --> 00:44:22.760
Well, right exactly. And here in New York, as you

853
00:44:22.800 --> 00:44:26.199
mentioned these guys are on Mom, dammy, the so called

854
00:44:26.199 --> 00:44:28.199
democrat socialist, So I think it's really a full blown

855
00:44:28.280 --> 00:44:31.360
communist running for mayor. He's come out and said that

856
00:44:31.400 --> 00:44:36.960
he favors the quote seizure of the means of production unquote.

857
00:44:37.239 --> 00:44:40.719
That is a direct quote from Karl Marx and Vladimir

858
00:44:41.039 --> 00:44:44.480
Naglie Lennon. This isn't just hey, let's raise some taxes

859
00:44:44.559 --> 00:44:46.360
or make sure that the rich pay their fair share

860
00:44:46.400 --> 00:44:48.599
quote unquote. When you see is the means of production,

861
00:44:48.719 --> 00:44:58.599
you are basically nationalizing industry, transportation, agriculture, retail distribution, et cetera.

862
00:44:58.960 --> 00:45:02.440
And this goes well beyond FDR. This goes well beyond

863
00:45:03.000 --> 00:45:05.400
Ted Kennedy. I mean, this is this is that you're

864
00:45:05.400 --> 00:45:10.000
dealing with at this point. Lenin and Stalin and Mountstum

865
00:45:10.360 --> 00:45:13.360
and pol Pot, this is dangerous stuff. This guy said

866
00:45:13.400 --> 00:45:17.800
he wants to raise taxes on richer wider neighborhoods. Now,

867
00:45:17.880 --> 00:45:19.440
you can make an argument I don't agree with that,

868
00:45:19.480 --> 00:45:21.119
but you can make an argument that you should raise

869
00:45:21.400 --> 00:45:23.519
taxes and wealthy people and share the money with the poor.

870
00:45:23.559 --> 00:45:26.800
Blah blah blah. When you talk about wider neighborhoods, you're

871
00:45:26.840 --> 00:45:29.719
going into a racial area that we don't need to

872
00:45:29.760 --> 00:45:33.519
delve into. Now, also a totally racist comment. Now you

873
00:45:33.519 --> 00:45:35.559
could say something like, you know, we need to deploy

874
00:45:35.599 --> 00:45:39.239
the police into crime ridden areas. Most people say, okay,

875
00:45:39.280 --> 00:45:41.880
that makes sense. What if you said we need to

876
00:45:41.920 --> 00:45:45.679
deploy the police in the crime ridden blacker areas. Okay,

877
00:45:45.719 --> 00:45:49.239
Well that's a completely different statement. That's a rather racist statement,

878
00:45:49.480 --> 00:45:52.760
and most people recoil from that sort of thing. And

879
00:45:52.800 --> 00:45:54.239
this is the kind of stuff that we that this

880
00:45:54.519 --> 00:45:56.559
is coming out of this guy about Donnie's mouth. And

881
00:45:56.559 --> 00:46:00.880
here's Elizabeth Warren, the centator from Massachuse. It's just stuff

882
00:46:00.920 --> 00:46:02.960
here a couple of days ago, endorsing him and saying

883
00:46:02.960 --> 00:46:05.199
what a great leader is and so on and so on. Uh,

884
00:46:05.559 --> 00:46:09.119
it's really grim. And I really hope that the three

885
00:46:09.119 --> 00:46:12.719
people running against him can consolidate and get find one

886
00:46:12.719 --> 00:46:14.960
person and this guy can be defeated. If we have

887
00:46:15.559 --> 00:46:18.519
three people splitting the anti Mamdani vote, I'm afraid he's

888
00:46:18.559 --> 00:46:20.679
going to get in even with a plurality of just

889
00:46:20.760 --> 00:46:22.519
you know, thirty thirty five percent of the vote.

890
00:46:22.760 --> 00:46:25.960
Really imagine you imagine that the damage that he would do.

891
00:46:26.440 --> 00:46:29.039
I mean, you're still trying to recover from de Blasio.

892
00:46:29.840 --> 00:46:32.480
Absolutely, And what's going to happen is if we have

893
00:46:32.639 --> 00:46:36.519
a a Marxist Leninist mayor of New York City, you

894
00:46:36.519 --> 00:46:38.280
can imagine what this means for the police. The police

895
00:46:38.280 --> 00:46:41.039
are going to be demoralized. They'll be on very short leashes.

896
00:46:41.639 --> 00:46:44.719
He doesn't believe in sending the police in when there's

897
00:46:45.039 --> 00:46:47.360
a crime going, and he wants to send in social workers.

898
00:46:47.639 --> 00:46:50.480
He in fact came out against a particular unit unit

899
00:46:50.519 --> 00:46:53.719
of the NYPD. I think it's called the SGB, right, yeah,

900
00:46:53.719 --> 00:46:57.840
the higher like this, and he said they need to

901
00:46:57.840 --> 00:47:00.440
be shut down. These are terrible people. They're they're a

902
00:47:00.519 --> 00:47:02.880
threat to safety. Blah blah blah. This is the exact

903
00:47:03.000 --> 00:47:07.159
unit that went into that building in Midtown where Blackstone

904
00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:10.920
and the NFL or headquarter. Those guys showed up apparently

905
00:47:10.960 --> 00:47:13.039
in a matter of about two minutes and didn't run

906
00:47:13.039 --> 00:47:15.320
away from the bullets. They ran towards the bullets. And

907
00:47:15.360 --> 00:47:19.119
this is the exact unit that kept that mass shooter

908
00:47:20.119 --> 00:47:23.559
situation to a minimum of I think four people. I

909
00:47:23.559 --> 00:47:26.280
believe it was one killed, three or four injured. Obviously

910
00:47:26.320 --> 00:47:29.840
more than anybody wishes, but that could have been fifteen

911
00:47:29.880 --> 00:47:32.760
twenty thirty forty people killed had the cops not jumped

912
00:47:32.800 --> 00:47:35.320
on this guy as quickly as they did, and Mamdani

913
00:47:35.400 --> 00:47:38.199
attacked as attacked not just the NYPD in general, but

914
00:47:38.280 --> 00:47:42.480
that particular unit specifically, to show just how completely out

915
00:47:42.519 --> 00:47:45.800
of touch and unhinged and attached from reality this man is.

916
00:47:46.440 --> 00:47:49.199
What do you think the response rate for a social

917
00:47:49.239 --> 00:47:49.960
worker would have been?

918
00:47:51.599 --> 00:47:53.000
I'm sorry I didn't hear a response right now.

919
00:47:53.320 --> 00:47:55.639
I said, what do you think their response rate for

920
00:47:55.719 --> 00:47:58.159
a social worker would have been? To get to that building?

921
00:48:00.039 --> 00:48:01.800
I doubt the social worker would have gotten there in

922
00:48:01.840 --> 00:48:04.400
two minutes, And even if the social worker had, when

923
00:48:04.519 --> 00:48:06.719
social workers will sit down and hold hands with the

924
00:48:06.840 --> 00:48:09.199
shooter and say, you know, how do you feel right now?

925
00:48:09.360 --> 00:48:12.119
Or tell me about your upbringing. Did you have a

926
00:48:12.159 --> 00:48:15.159
difficult relationship with your father, Tell me about your mom

927
00:48:15.159 --> 00:48:17.679
and how your mom treated you. Let's all sit together

928
00:48:17.719 --> 00:48:21.920
in a circle and exchange our views about our feelings

929
00:48:21.920 --> 00:48:24.960
on our childhoods and our aspirations for the future. I mean,

930
00:48:24.960 --> 00:48:28.880
this is insanity, this is crazy. Look, if you want

931
00:48:28.880 --> 00:48:31.599
to sit down with somebody who's already in jail and

932
00:48:31.760 --> 00:48:33.719
is wearing an orange jumpsuit. Maybe you can sit down

933
00:48:33.960 --> 00:48:36.880
of a delightful emotional heart to heart. But when you've

934
00:48:36.880 --> 00:48:39.559
got a guy who's got an automatic rifle and he's

935
00:48:39.599 --> 00:48:42.360
opening fire and shooting people, that seems like a very

936
00:48:42.400 --> 00:48:45.039
strange time to sit down and try to have some

937
00:48:45.159 --> 00:48:49.280
kind of psychotherapy and ask him about you know, what's

938
00:48:49.280 --> 00:48:52.199
his favorite color, or if you were a tree, you

939
00:48:52.199 --> 00:48:54.559
would be a mighty redwood or a palm tree, or

940
00:48:54.559 --> 00:48:56.840
would be some kind of you know, some kind of

941
00:48:56.920 --> 00:49:00.800
a sequoia. I mean, this is insanity. These people are bonkers.

942
00:49:00.840 --> 00:49:03.400
There's no other work for it. These people are insane.

943
00:49:03.840 --> 00:49:05.400
And this guy now wants to be the mayor of

944
00:49:05.400 --> 00:49:08.719
the largest city in America.

945
00:49:08.440 --> 00:49:10.960
And how long has he been a citizen? He hasn't

946
00:49:10.960 --> 00:49:12.000
been a citizen in that long?

947
00:49:12.719 --> 00:49:16.760
Right, Well, I know he's from Uganda, right background from Uganda,

948
00:49:16.840 --> 00:49:18.400
I believe, moved to the United States and its about

949
00:49:18.400 --> 00:49:18.960
age seven.

950
00:49:19.719 --> 00:49:21.920
Yeah, But but I don't think that he was naturalized

951
00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:27.440
or or took a citizen ship test or anything like that.

952
00:49:27.760 --> 00:49:29.960
And uh, you know, of course he's part of the

953
00:49:29.960 --> 00:49:32.880
State Assembly there in New York, so he had to

954
00:49:32.920 --> 00:49:36.440
already have been a citizen. But I think if I'm

955
00:49:36.480 --> 00:49:38.360
if I'm reading it correctly, I think he's only been

956
00:49:38.360 --> 00:49:40.320
a citizen officially for a couple of years.

957
00:49:41.119 --> 00:49:43.519
Well, that's just well, I know it's he's fairly recent

958
00:49:43.760 --> 00:49:46.719
uh recently naturalized. I don't know the right I would

959
00:49:46.760 --> 00:49:51.320
assume that he's qualified, and he's I guess in some place.

960
00:49:51.360 --> 00:49:53.840
I think for the United States presidency you have to

961
00:49:53.880 --> 00:49:55.960
have been president. Sorry, well, you've got to be a

962
00:49:56.000 --> 00:49:58.159
national board citizen. And I think you're supposed to be

963
00:49:58.159 --> 00:50:01.480
a citizen of whatever city or a state you represent.

964
00:50:01.199 --> 00:50:06.159
For, or or have a birth certificate somewhere that you

965
00:50:06.159 --> 00:50:07.559
can manufacture.

966
00:50:07.079 --> 00:50:12.079
Something like that meets whatever those requirements are. But look,

967
00:50:12.519 --> 00:50:16.599
whatever boxing checks in that category, there are a lot

968
00:50:16.639 --> 00:50:19.559
of boxes. He also checks that he shouldn't like believing

969
00:50:19.559 --> 00:50:22.480
the ideas of Carks, believing in the application of those

970
00:50:22.480 --> 00:50:25.239
ideas via the seizure of the means of production as

971
00:50:25.280 --> 00:50:28.679
advocated by Vladimir Ilich Lennin, who started the Soviet Union

972
00:50:28.679 --> 00:50:32.519
back in nineteen seventeen. This guy wants a free universal

973
00:50:32.559 --> 00:50:35.679
health care, free buses. He wants to have government run

974
00:50:35.760 --> 00:50:39.239
grocery stores. And this goes so far beyond even the

975
00:50:39.320 --> 00:50:42.119
level of build a Blasios as awful a mayor as

976
00:50:42.159 --> 00:50:46.360
he was. Mamdani makes up build a Blasio look like

977
00:50:47.000 --> 00:50:51.760
Steve Forbes or Bear Goldwater. I mean, it's breathtaking, truly astablishing.

978
00:50:51.800 --> 00:50:54.960
It is unbelievable. But getting back to what you wrote

979
00:50:54.960 --> 00:50:59.119
about regarding the sower lose your Democrats four minutes left again,

980
00:50:59.320 --> 00:51:02.480
I wanted to put a around that. I mean, you've

981
00:51:02.519 --> 00:51:07.280
got a US Justice Department that is moving forward with

982
00:51:07.320 --> 00:51:13.519
a criminal investigation of a former president, former CIA directors,

983
00:51:14.320 --> 00:51:20.679
former FBI director, Hillary Clinton, the whole gang. And I

984
00:51:20.719 --> 00:51:24.679
got to tell you, Deroy, I believe America they want

985
00:51:24.760 --> 00:51:27.800
scalps on this if we go through all this stuff

986
00:51:27.840 --> 00:51:31.079
and nobody pays a price after all the damage that

987
00:51:31.119 --> 00:51:34.920
they've done, which is incalculable, the damage that was done

988
00:51:34.960 --> 00:51:39.960
because of this, because all that begat a brain addled

989
00:51:40.280 --> 00:51:43.719
presidency for four years, so on top of the mess

990
00:51:43.800 --> 00:51:47.199
that Barack Obama left us, the mess that they created

991
00:51:47.800 --> 00:51:51.639
in the Trump administration and the years. Even in spite

992
00:51:51.719 --> 00:51:53.800
of all this stuff, I mean, it's amazing that Donald

993
00:51:53.800 --> 00:51:57.639
Trump was even able to affect what he was able

994
00:51:57.679 --> 00:52:01.559
to do. But that just demonstrates, you know, how smart

995
00:52:01.599 --> 00:52:04.519
and how effective this guy was because in spite of

996
00:52:04.559 --> 00:52:07.639
all the resistance and everything, I mean, except for COVID,

997
00:52:08.639 --> 00:52:11.880
the the country is rolling and we're back rolling again.

998
00:52:13.320 --> 00:52:17.000
It is amazing to think about how much more in

999
00:52:17.000 --> 00:52:19.559
his first term Donald J. Trump could have accomplished if

1000
00:52:19.599 --> 00:52:22.679
he were not facing ninety mile per hour headwinds every

1001
00:52:22.800 --> 00:52:26.679
single day of the week, largely coming from this Russia hoax.

1002
00:52:27.480 --> 00:52:30.880
Look would be one thing if the Democrats had some

1003
00:52:30.960 --> 00:52:36.239
credible evidence or some accusations, at least believable charges that

1004
00:52:36.480 --> 00:52:38.840
Trump had some kind of ties to the Kremlin or

1005
00:52:39.639 --> 00:52:41.679
was being influenced by Putin or whatever it might be,

1006
00:52:42.360 --> 00:52:44.480
and they started this investigation, maybe it got out of

1007
00:52:44.480 --> 00:52:46.840
hand or whatever. That is not the case. This thing

1008
00:52:46.920 --> 00:52:51.239
was completely utterly, totally fabricated, fabricated from the beginning. And

1009
00:52:51.280 --> 00:52:55.800
we now have some emails that were declassified by Telca Gabbard,

1010
00:52:55.840 --> 00:52:58.239
the Director of National Intelligence, and one of them is

1011
00:52:58.239 --> 00:53:02.800
from named Leonard Bernardo, who works for George Soros, and

1012
00:53:03.039 --> 00:53:07.280
he sent an email basically saying that Clinton's foreign affairs

1013
00:53:07.320 --> 00:53:10.760
at Hillary Clinton's for advice Foreign Affairs advisor Julian Smith,

1014
00:53:10.920 --> 00:53:13.920
referring to your quote long term affair to demonize Putin

1015
00:53:13.960 --> 00:53:16.440
and Trump. Now it is a good time for post

1016
00:53:16.480 --> 00:53:19.800
convention bounce. Later the FBI will put more oil into

1017
00:53:20.039 --> 00:53:22.719
the fire. The FBI is can put more oil into

1018
00:53:22.760 --> 00:53:25.880
the fire and fuel this conspiracy and all these fake

1019
00:53:25.960 --> 00:53:28.639
charges against Trump. A couple of days later, this same guy,

1020
00:53:28.639 --> 00:53:31.280
Bernardo sent an email in which he wrote, quote HRC

1021
00:53:31.440 --> 00:53:35.039
Hillary Rodham Clinton approved Julia's idea about Trump and Russian

1022
00:53:35.039 --> 00:53:38.159
hackers hampering US elections. That should distract people from her

1023
00:53:38.159 --> 00:53:43.119
own missing email and all that email scandal which Hillary

1024
00:53:43.159 --> 00:53:47.639
Clinton was involved. And then after the election, the same

1025
00:53:47.800 --> 00:53:52.079
these same folks, Hillary Clinton, James Clapper at the CIA,

1026
00:53:52.239 --> 00:53:55.719
John Branne AT's CIA, James Comey at the FBI basically

1027
00:53:55.880 --> 00:53:59.400
cooked up this whole idea that Trump and Putin were

1028
00:53:59.400 --> 00:54:01.880
in cahoots and that they worked together to win the

1029
00:54:01.920 --> 00:54:04.920
White House, again, totally concocted. There was no evidence of that.

1030
00:54:05.559 --> 00:54:07.559
The FBI early on said there is no evidence that

1031
00:54:07.599 --> 00:54:11.960
Putin had any credible effect on the election. And yet

1032
00:54:11.960 --> 00:54:14.880
Obama said, why don't you guys think about that again

1033
00:54:14.920 --> 00:54:16.880
and come back to us with another answer, And they

1034
00:54:16.880 --> 00:54:19.960
did on January sixth, twenty seventeen, And that's when they

1035
00:54:20.000 --> 00:54:23.000
said quote. We assessed Putin and the Russian government aspired

1036
00:54:23.000 --> 00:54:26.079
to help President elect Trump's election chances when possible by

1037
00:54:26.119 --> 00:54:31.159
discrediting Secretary Clinton and publicly contrasting her unfavorably to him unquote,

1038
00:54:31.320 --> 00:54:34.719
and based again on that totally invented, fabricated, synthetic quote

1039
00:54:34.760 --> 00:54:37.719
unquote finding, they then embarked on a three year long

1040
00:54:38.320 --> 00:54:42.639
total wild goose chase, which hunt against Trump, against his sons,

1041
00:54:42.800 --> 00:54:47.280
against George Papadopoulos, one of his aides, Carter Page, Paul Manifort,

1042
00:54:47.599 --> 00:54:52.760
Roger Stone, NSC advisor Michael Flynn, Manafort, and Papadopoulos end

1043
00:54:52.800 --> 00:54:58.400
up going to jail. Stone and Flynn were sentenced to

1044
00:54:58.440 --> 00:55:01.480
go to jail, but were pardon by Trump towards the

1045
00:55:01.559 --> 00:55:05.079
end of his term. These people, many of them, were bankrupted, drowning,

1046
00:55:05.079 --> 00:55:07.880
and legal fees. Again, some of these people end up

1047
00:55:07.880 --> 00:55:13.559
buying bars. All over a completely invented, concocted, imaginary hoax.

1048
00:55:13.840 --> 00:55:18.440
There was no evidence. According to the FBI investigation, houses

1049
00:55:18.480 --> 00:55:22.880
Senate intelligence committees, the Mueller investigation, the Durham investigation, all

1050
00:55:22.880 --> 00:55:25.480
of them said, but the Russians tried to influence the election,

1051
00:55:25.800 --> 00:55:29.440
But nobody Donald J. Trump, nobody from his team. No

1052
00:55:29.519 --> 00:55:33.199
American citizen helped or colluded or assisted in any of

1053
00:55:33.199 --> 00:55:37.079
that effort. All of those five different investigations came to

1054
00:55:37.119 --> 00:55:40.280
the same conclusion. This is all garbage, is all invented.

1055
00:55:40.519 --> 00:55:43.079
And I want to see Clapper and Brennan and Komby

1056
00:55:43.199 --> 00:55:47.719
and Hillary Clinton and Obama paid serious consequences for this.

1057
00:55:48.079 --> 00:55:52.000
I want to see their licenses shredded. I want to

1058
00:55:52.039 --> 00:55:55.159
see these people disbarred, seriously find and if they're put

1059
00:55:55.159 --> 00:55:57.239
on trial, convicted. I want to see these folks behind

1060
00:55:57.280 --> 00:56:00.159
bars with the door slammish up shut every night as

1061
00:56:00.159 --> 00:56:02.480
they go to sleep, wearing their orange jumpsuits. These people

1062
00:56:02.599 --> 00:56:06.400
attacked the American people, attacked their democracy, attacked the popular will,

1063
00:56:07.320 --> 00:56:09.800
which was the American people electing Donald J. Trump to

1064
00:56:09.800 --> 00:56:12.679
implement his program. Rather than either say, look, we're going

1065
00:56:12.719 --> 00:56:14.719
to debate the issues and explain why his ideas are

1066
00:56:14.719 --> 00:56:17.480
not so good, I said, no, Let's invent all this garbage,

1067
00:56:17.559 --> 00:56:21.000
weaponize the justice system, drag these people through the courts,

1068
00:56:21.320 --> 00:56:24.440
impoverish them with legal fees, and then throw some of

1069
00:56:24.440 --> 00:56:29.079
them in jail again over a Russia hoax that did

1070
00:56:29.119 --> 00:56:32.800
not exist, that these people totally completely invented they attacked

1071
00:56:32.840 --> 00:56:35.360
our democracy, attacked the American people, and they need to

1072
00:56:35.360 --> 00:56:39.320
pay very serious consequences, including long, painful jail sentences, for

1073
00:56:39.320 --> 00:56:45.000
what these people did. There's anti American totalitarian intervention against

1074
00:56:45.199 --> 00:56:47.199
this American political system of ours, and the people who

1075
00:56:47.199 --> 00:56:50.840
did this you need to pay very serious consequences, including many,

1076
00:56:50.880 --> 00:56:52.000
many years behind bars.

1077
00:56:52.480 --> 00:56:55.320
Well, they need to write checks to the American people

1078
00:56:55.920 --> 00:56:59.519
the millions of dollars that were wasted on this big,

1079
00:56:59.559 --> 00:57:04.400
fabric hated lie from Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama at all.

1080
00:57:05.000 --> 00:57:08.920
They owe the American people money because taxpayer money, as

1081
00:57:08.960 --> 00:57:12.679
you said, paid the legal fees to chase down this

1082
00:57:12.800 --> 00:57:15.719
windmill in this big you know l I E as

1083
00:57:15.760 --> 00:57:19.400
you like to say, and I'm with you on that.

1084
00:57:20.159 --> 00:57:23.000
All the other stuff as well. I mean, Donald Trump

1085
00:57:23.079 --> 00:57:26.639
gave Hillary a big pass because you know, unfortunately when

1086
00:57:26.679 --> 00:57:30.840
they say the emails were missing, they weren't missing. They

1087
00:57:30.880 --> 00:57:31.800
were destroyed.

1088
00:57:32.440 --> 00:57:35.000
Yeah, under subpoena. They were under scappoena from the House

1089
00:57:35.480 --> 00:57:38.199
Intelligence I'm an oversight committee one of the other and

1090
00:57:38.320 --> 00:57:40.599
rather than say okay, up, they're under sapoena, had them over.

1091
00:57:40.880 --> 00:57:44.199
She picked them out, shredded them, and then had her

1092
00:57:44.239 --> 00:57:48.599
aides take her blackberries and cells and destroy them with hammers.

1093
00:57:48.599 --> 00:57:50.880
Who does this? This is like something out of the

1094
00:57:50.920 --> 00:57:54.119
Sopranos or Martin Scorsese film.

1095
00:57:54.400 --> 00:57:57.159
Well our thanks to Deroy Murdoch, the Manattan bas Fox

1096
00:57:57.199 --> 00:57:59.960
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1116
00:59:15.679 --> 00:59:18.159
Well, Welcome back Bill Martinez here. Great to have you

1117
00:59:18.239 --> 00:59:21.360
with us. Also, great to have the one knowing doctor

1118
00:59:21.400 --> 00:59:26.000
Bonnard Cohen with us. Doctor Cohen is a senior policy

1119
00:59:26.119 --> 00:59:29.440
analyst with Sea Fact. Doctor Colan, good to have you

1120
00:59:29.480 --> 00:59:30.679
with us. Good morning, sir, How are you?

1121
00:59:30.880 --> 00:59:33.360
Good morning though, I hope you're doing well too.

1122
00:59:33.760 --> 00:59:36.880
Yeah, I'm doing well, and some good news here with

1123
00:59:37.000 --> 00:59:41.599
the Epauh and Lee Zelden working on behalf of the

1124
00:59:41.639 --> 00:59:42.719
American people right.

1125
00:59:43.719 --> 00:59:48.239
Imagine the Environmental Protection Agency, which has a long and

1126
00:59:48.320 --> 00:59:54.360
well documented history of issuing news and regulations called in

1127
00:59:54.480 --> 00:59:57.920
the name of things that sound wonderful but would actually

1128
00:59:58.000 --> 01:00:01.639
have in many respects. Is that this consequences all of

1129
01:00:01.639 --> 01:00:05.440
a sudden becoming This is Aul of Tarsus becoming Saint Paul.

1130
01:00:05.519 --> 01:00:10.920
That's what it is. Exactly what they are doing is

1131
01:00:11.280 --> 01:00:18.320
they have initiated a very far reaching initiative that promises,

1132
01:00:18.360 --> 01:00:22.400
and I think it's a realistic promise to undo practically

1133
01:00:22.519 --> 01:00:30.400
all of the climate related regulations imposed going all the

1134
01:00:30.440 --> 01:00:34.519
way back to the Obama administration and the Biden administration.

1135
01:00:34.960 --> 01:00:39.679
And they're doing this by challenging the two thousand and

1136
01:00:39.880 --> 01:00:46.760
nine that means Obama administration in danger finding, under which

1137
01:00:47.239 --> 01:00:52.360
man made emissions of greenhouse gases, including first and foremost

1138
01:00:52.559 --> 01:00:57.800
carbon dioxide, pose a potential harm to the public, for

1139
01:00:58.079 --> 01:01:04.840
which EPA under the Clean Air Act can issue rules

1140
01:01:04.920 --> 01:01:09.360
to rein in that harm, all in the name of

1141
01:01:09.559 --> 01:01:15.320
combating climate change. Y pro with that that's being done

1142
01:01:15.400 --> 01:01:19.360
under the Clean Air Act. Nowhere in the Clean Air

1143
01:01:19.559 --> 01:01:25.519
Act does the word carbon dioxide, methane, or any other

1144
01:01:25.639 --> 01:01:29.840
greenhouse gas appear. EPA in two thousand and nine under

1145
01:01:29.880 --> 01:01:36.320
Obama was reacting to a very poor Supreme Court decision

1146
01:01:36.360 --> 01:01:41.840
from two years earlier that said that EPA could regulate

1147
01:01:41.960 --> 01:01:45.400
greenhouse gases. Didn't say they must. The problem with that

1148
01:01:45.679 --> 01:01:49.159
was nowhere in the Clean Air Actor they have the

1149
01:01:49.280 --> 01:01:52.800
authority to do so because it's not named. It has

1150
01:01:52.880 --> 01:01:57.760
to be a named pollutant. So Lee Zelden at EPA

1151
01:01:57.960 --> 01:02:02.159
has said is we're going to challenge this, saying that

1152
01:02:03.559 --> 01:02:09.880
this falls under the twoenty twenty two Supreme Court ruling

1153
01:02:10.519 --> 01:02:15.760
West Virginia v. EPA, which stated that in order for

1154
01:02:16.000 --> 01:02:21.239
a regulatory agency, federal regulatory agency to a who to

1155
01:02:21.360 --> 01:02:27.159
impose a rule, a regulation of major economic significance, there

1156
01:02:27.239 --> 01:02:32.920
must be specific instructions from Congress or authorization from Congress

1157
01:02:32.960 --> 01:02:38.639
to do so. There is no such authorization here, So

1158
01:02:38.760 --> 01:02:40.559
that's good, Go up to the screen.

1159
01:02:40.679 --> 01:02:44.000
So the regulators have just been running mad for fifteen

1160
01:02:44.119 --> 01:02:45.360
exactly basically right.

1161
01:02:45.440 --> 01:02:49.440
They had a blank check and by god they cashed it.

1162
01:02:50.480 --> 01:02:57.199
And this the implications of this go very far, because

1163
01:02:57.239 --> 01:03:01.440
this was used to justify shut down coal fired power

1164
01:03:01.480 --> 01:03:05.239
plants as a prelude to shutting down gas powered power

1165
01:03:05.320 --> 01:03:14.360
plans replacing that is, mandating the effective removal of gasoline

1166
01:03:14.400 --> 01:03:18.360
and diesel powered cars and replacing them with electric vehicles,

1167
01:03:19.199 --> 01:03:26.639
but also a green building codes for residential and commercial kinds.

1168
01:03:27.960 --> 01:03:35.199
The whole notion of say, having electric vehicles, including electric trucks,

1169
01:03:35.280 --> 01:03:40.440
electric exactly, locomotives. You name it, right, do you have?

1170
01:03:40.840 --> 01:03:44.039
Do you have a quantitative number bonner at all? In

1171
01:03:44.119 --> 01:03:48.400
terms of how much money this costs our economy?

1172
01:03:48.559 --> 01:03:51.199
To date it has costed no. Nobody's been able to

1173
01:03:51.199 --> 01:03:54.239
break that down, but I bet somebody does. It is

1174
01:03:54.440 --> 01:03:58.119
unquestionably cost us something in the neighborhood of a trindion

1175
01:03:58.199 --> 01:04:02.599
dollars already, because you are talking about factories having to

1176
01:04:02.679 --> 01:04:07.239
retool produce evs for which there's no market. You are

1177
01:04:07.280 --> 01:04:10.920
talking about tens of thousands of coal miners and people

1178
01:04:10.960 --> 01:04:14.079
who worked in co fired power plants who lost their jobs.

1179
01:04:14.199 --> 01:04:16.679
No problem, said Joe Biden. They can learn the code

1180
01:04:17.639 --> 01:04:25.400
and just the societal disruption that this caused, all in

1181
01:04:25.440 --> 01:04:29.280
the name of combating the so called climate crisis, and

1182
01:04:29.440 --> 01:04:33.960
all of which apparently with no legal underpinning whatsoever. But

1183
01:04:34.079 --> 01:04:39.119
remember this endangerment finding posed the keys to the kingdom

1184
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of all the regulations that have been posed on us

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in an incredibly bold move. Zelden is challenging the whole

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ball of blacks.

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How Come they didn't figure this out earlier? Just because

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the Democrats were in control of everything.

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They were certainly that was not anything that the Biden

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EPA was going to do. Oh they speed ahead with this, Yeah,

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Trump during the Trump administration, the first administration, they could

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have done it. They didn't. They did a lot of things,

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but they didn't take this bold step. But I think

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it was the very audacity of the Biden administration, which

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member they said they were going to take a whole

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of government approach to combating what they said was a

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climate crisis that was so disruptive disruptive being a polite

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term for disastrous, that the truck people came and said,

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there's only one way to do with this. We're going

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to take on the whole project, and we're going to

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go right to the root of the whole thing, namely

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the endangerment finding, and that will ultimately lead, I think,

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to overturning the two thousand and seven Supreme Court decision

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Massachusetts v. EPA that gave birth to the endangerment finding.

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So this is as far reaching a things as you

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can possibly imagine.

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It's like a demolition project here.

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That's exactly right, Yes, yes, right. Think of all the

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rules and regulations just at the federal level that have

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imposed that have been imposed in the name of combating

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climate change of the past year years, and now EPA

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comes forward. I think Supreme Court will uphold them and say, no,

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there was really no legal basis of this. If you

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want to regulate greenhouse gases, Congress has to authorize that,

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and Congress has not done.

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So where are we with climate change? Is this thing

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is there a you know, a still spike in the

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heart of this insane being, or does it live to

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continue to torment us?

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They are they being the left which saw gaining control

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of energy as way to gain control of people, because

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if you control energy, you control the people who need

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and use energy. So this is a very big deal

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for them. They will challenge this in court, they will

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try to do things at the state and local level.

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But believe me, they know this threatens the very existence

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of this vast enterprise, which actually dates all the way

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back to nineteen eighty eight when al Gore went before

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the United Nations declared impending disaster, and from that speech

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has flowed so many rules, regulations, international conferences, foundations floating

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huge amounts of money to environmental groups, all these grants,

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billions and billions of dollars that have flowed from EPA

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to Department of Energy, to politically well connected groups on

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the outside to spread the propaganda of course, environmental justice,

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you name it, right. So they they're not going to

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walk away, oh no, But I think they do recognize

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this is serious business.

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Wow. I mean they're they're really exposed. You know, this

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is the thing I've been saying, Bonner, Uh, for the

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last couple of weeks is that, uh, this administration, Donald

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Trump's administration has become quite apocalyptic. And and by that

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I mean that it's it's revealed all this insanity that

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we've been dealing with that has just yeah, you know,

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done so much injury and uh and interfered with uh,

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you know, with just reasonable progress.

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That's right, And you know it's the Trump administration is

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not trimming around the edges. Uh, They're going for the jugular.

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They recognize that if you don't kill this completely exactly

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one form or another, it's just going to come back.

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But you take away the legal constitutional justification for this,

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which is what they're aiming at, then it's a whole

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different ballgame.

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Well, doctor Colin, you got to stay in touch and

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keep a surprise to what's going on. Where can the

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people go for more information?

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All right? Yeah, check us out on our website website

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which is CFaCT dot org. C fact dotorg. You'll find

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lots of information on the subject we just talked about,

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as well as a host of other related things.

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Well, he's a senior policy analyst with c Fact. Doctor

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Bonner Cohen. Thank you, doctor con take care. I have

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a great day.

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Oh kay, thank you Bill.

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Well, you know, I'm battling COVID but mostly okay.

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But more importantly, it's a big day for me. Bill.

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It is big day.

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I turned fifty five today.

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And what that means is I get fifteen percent off

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at Denny's and I'm going later.

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Oh a good deal, going going to the Super Grand Slammer.

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No, what if you're gonna send me AARP stuff at

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fifty five, I'm gonna take that fifteen percent Denny's discount

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to the bank, baby, exactly.

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Well, good for you. We'll enjoy yourself. Happy birthday, double

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double Nichols. That's a that's a big day. I mean,

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you know, I remember mine. It's so far in the

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rear view, but hey, I can, I'll vicariously maybe I'll

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join you for Denny's.

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Yeah, it sounds great.

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Well.

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daughter being born on my fortieth birthday. So she's turning

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fifteen today, and I'm thankful as I get older that

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most of my family forgets that I even have a birthday,

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which is at this point there's a certain age at

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which people forgetting your birthday becomes a feature and not

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a bug exactly.

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No, I'm with you on that. And some people are

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really you know, into birthdays, and I respect that as well,

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was living with us there right, but regardless, it was

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just like, you know, my mom, But I knew I

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you know my favorite German chocolate cake.

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Just right, just make me a nice cake and we'll

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call it good exactly.

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I've just got much into that ceremony.

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and so she texted.

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Me this morning.

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I was about to say my wife texted me, and

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you'd be like, wait, why is your wife texting you?

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texted me happy birthday. I'm like, you know what, that's good.

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That's all I need.

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That's all. That's all, and then we'll have fun with

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the fifteen year old and all deal.

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And now you're exactly you're on the other end.

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You're on the other end of COVID.

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You know.

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terms of that we've gone through the scenario of COVID

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in such a way that it's it's like the flu basically.

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I know.

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Certain people would dispute that, but having had influenza the

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real deal a few times, I'm usually much much sicker

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than that than I have been with COVID the last

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couple of times. So, right, and it's my fourth go around,

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So happy day. Get me a punch card.

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Yeah, I'm gonna say, I mean, you know, after the

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tenth one, you get a free car wash, you know,

1421
01:17:20.199 --> 01:17:22.680
I hope, So I hope, so get something out of it,

1422
01:17:23.119 --> 01:17:24.960
or you know, maybe you get up to twenty or

1423
01:17:24.960 --> 01:17:25.720
twenty five percent.

1424
01:17:25.960 --> 01:17:27.600
Right, Yeah, that'd be great.

1425
01:17:27.680 --> 01:17:27.800
That.

1426
01:17:27.880 --> 01:17:30.279
Yeah, just give me a free you know, stack of

1427
01:17:30.319 --> 01:17:31.479
pancakes and we'll call it good.

1428
01:17:32.000 --> 01:17:34.560
Hey, So, what's what's happening? It plugged in these days?

1429
01:17:35.199 --> 01:17:38.920
We just had you know, what If? Kevin Charbo again

1430
01:17:39.000 --> 01:17:43.720
reprised is actually it was just an anniversary version of

1431
01:17:43.760 --> 01:17:47.920
What If, which was well received and great reaction, fun movie.

1432
01:17:48.399 --> 01:17:50.199
So a couple movies out this week. One of them

1433
01:17:50.239 --> 01:17:54.680
is called Sketch. It's an Angel Studios movie, which Angel

1434
01:17:54.720 --> 01:17:57.720
Studios is an interesting sort of case study because they

1435
01:17:57.760 --> 01:18:01.279
are they're actually owned the company I believe is owned

1436
01:18:01.319 --> 01:18:03.399
by a couple of Mormon brothers.

1437
01:18:03.239 --> 01:18:07.560
But there were really ones that did the original kind

1438
01:18:07.800 --> 01:18:10.239
you know, original model for the chosen.

1439
01:18:10.079 --> 01:18:11.840
Totally totally and great job.

1440
01:18:12.199 --> 01:18:14.760
And we might think with angels, and they're doing a

1441
01:18:14.760 --> 01:18:17.640
lot of faith light stuff. It tends to not be

1442
01:18:18.640 --> 01:18:21.520
super heavy on the spiritual stuff, but kind of in there.

1443
01:18:21.560 --> 01:18:24.199
And then every now and then they'll throw an oddball

1444
01:18:24.279 --> 01:18:25.960
in and we have one of those this week, and

1445
01:18:26.000 --> 01:18:29.439
it's called Sketch. It's about a little girl whose mom

1446
01:18:29.479 --> 01:18:33.239
has died and she's drawing drawings of monsters, kind of

1447
01:18:33.239 --> 01:18:37.039
processing her grief, and the drawings fall into a pond

1448
01:18:37.079 --> 01:18:38.920
and come to life, and you know, she and her

1449
01:18:38.960 --> 01:18:41.199
dad and everybody else has to fight the monsters, and

1450
01:18:41.279 --> 01:18:45.399
so it really is sort of a metaphorical reflection on grief.

1451
01:18:46.600 --> 01:18:48.000
Pretty creative movie.

1452
01:18:48.119 --> 01:18:52.279
I mean, we often lament the lack of original IP

1453
01:18:52.560 --> 01:18:58.000
these days, intellectual property. Nice movie, some great messages about family.

1454
01:18:58.520 --> 01:19:02.399
I will say, kind of scary, Like I'm not sure

1455
01:19:02.399 --> 01:19:05.279
I would take a really young child to this movie

1456
01:19:05.319 --> 01:19:07.840
because they kind of they kind of play with some

1457
01:19:07.880 --> 01:19:12.399
horror movie tropes. So it's just a little bit on

1458
01:19:12.439 --> 01:19:15.159
the intent side. So that's one thing. And then if

1459
01:19:15.199 --> 01:19:17.960
you were laying awake at night pining, just thinking my

1460
01:19:18.039 --> 01:19:21.000
life would be complete if Disney would just give me

1461
01:19:21.119 --> 01:19:26.199
the sixth Freaky Friday movie since nineteen seventy two, it's.

1462
01:19:26.000 --> 01:19:27.000
Your Lucky Day.

1463
01:19:27.119 --> 01:19:29.760
We have Freaky Your Friday, Jamie Lee Curtis and Lindsay

1464
01:19:29.760 --> 01:19:33.680
Lowan reprising their roles from the last time around twenty

1465
01:19:33.760 --> 01:19:37.600
years ago. Lindsay Lowan now has a teen daughter. Teen

1466
01:19:37.680 --> 01:19:40.520
daughter has a friend or a friend of me, and

1467
01:19:40.560 --> 01:19:43.279
so we now get a four person body swap. So

1468
01:19:43.319 --> 01:19:48.199
the teen girls swap into mom and grandma's bodies and

1469
01:19:48.279 --> 01:19:53.760
vice versa, and you know, body related hilarity ensues. If

1470
01:19:53.760 --> 01:19:55.840
you've seen any of these movies, I mean, this thing

1471
01:19:55.920 --> 01:19:59.119
is practically a straight up remake of the last one.

1472
01:19:59.199 --> 01:20:01.000
So a little bit of.

1473
01:20:00.960 --> 01:20:05.159
Profanity, we get a little bit of tee body stuff,

1474
01:20:06.119 --> 01:20:10.000
not too much content wise. There's no LGBT characters. There

1475
01:20:10.079 --> 01:20:12.840
is one scene in a classroom, I think, where we see,

1476
01:20:13.079 --> 01:20:16.119
you know, an LGBT flag in the background for the

1477
01:20:16.159 --> 01:20:19.880
whole time. So Disney has dialed that down a little bit,

1478
01:20:19.960 --> 01:20:22.079
but they're still trying to sneak it in kind of

1479
01:20:22.119 --> 01:20:24.960
in the background. So that's what you need to know

1480
01:20:24.960 --> 01:20:26.000
about Freaky Friday.

1481
01:20:26.520 --> 01:20:30.600
Well, you know, that's like all these cultural influences, whether

1482
01:20:30.640 --> 01:20:33.800
it's you know, LGBTQ and the rest of the alphabet

1483
01:20:34.279 --> 01:20:38.520
and you know in the Dei stuff, there are some

1484
01:20:38.600 --> 01:20:41.640
that are just you know, it's just they've gone underground,

1485
01:20:41.800 --> 01:20:44.800
you know. So it's going to be around. And but

1486
01:20:44.920 --> 01:20:48.479
this is right now, is the opportunity as the fulcrum

1487
01:20:48.600 --> 01:20:53.479
is swinging back in our direction, in our favor where conservatism.

1488
01:20:53.760 --> 01:20:56.199
But again, this is a great opportunity for us to

1489
01:20:56.279 --> 01:21:01.560
promote uh, you know, religious values, U values. I mean, gosh,

1490
01:21:01.600 --> 01:21:04.159
I just saw, you know what happened at the Vatican.

1491
01:21:04.239 --> 01:21:08.880
They're celebrating the twenty fifth jubilee, and not twenty fifth

1492
01:21:08.920 --> 01:21:12.079
in number, but twenty five, twenty five years, a little

1493
01:21:12.079 --> 01:21:16.039
bit different than Christians that celebrate fifty every fifty years

1494
01:21:16.039 --> 01:21:20.039
of jubilee, you know, but the Catholics say, hey, why

1495
01:21:20.119 --> 01:21:21.960
wait for fifty, We're going to do it twenty five.

1496
01:21:22.600 --> 01:21:25.079
And they had over a million young kids out there

1497
01:21:25.319 --> 01:21:29.239
at the Vatican out there, and you know, and it's

1498
01:21:29.279 --> 01:21:32.560
so I think, you look at what's happening there. And

1499
01:21:32.600 --> 01:21:34.319
I was talking to a group of men the other

1500
01:21:34.399 --> 01:21:36.840
night and I said, guys, look at I just feel

1501
01:21:36.840 --> 01:21:39.560
like God's up to something really exciting here and we

1502
01:21:40.199 --> 01:21:42.119
need to be aware of it and get in front

1503
01:21:42.199 --> 01:21:44.680
of what God's doing. You know, like the Bible says

1504
01:21:44.720 --> 01:21:47.800
that God will place you in front of what's happening.

1505
01:21:47.840 --> 01:21:50.520
You know. I always being you know, a West Coast

1506
01:21:50.600 --> 01:21:53.720
guy and growing up on the beach, I always picture

1507
01:21:53.760 --> 01:21:55.560
it like surfing, you know, as that God would put

1508
01:21:55.600 --> 01:21:57.960
you in front of the wave, not alongside it or

1509
01:21:58.000 --> 01:22:00.960
behind it, but that you'd be to take full advantage

1510
01:22:01.239 --> 01:22:05.199
of that momentum, you know, that would carry you into

1511
01:22:05.359 --> 01:22:08.720
the next chapter. And I think this is this about

1512
01:22:08.720 --> 01:22:10.960
where we are because you look at again, you look

1513
01:22:10.960 --> 01:22:13.960
at what's happening in Israel right now? Uh now, I

1514
01:22:14.039 --> 01:22:16.560
always look at Israel when when I'm looking at and

1515
01:22:16.600 --> 01:22:21.039
considering what's happening spiritually, I want to know what's happening

1516
01:22:21.039 --> 01:22:21.600
in Israel.

1517
01:22:22.000 --> 01:22:26.399
Yep. So yeah, that's exactly right. And I think I'm

1518
01:22:26.439 --> 01:22:27.720
seeing you know, I don't know.

1519
01:22:27.720 --> 01:22:29.680
How much of this is anecdotal, how much of it's

1520
01:22:29.720 --> 01:22:33.199
based on studies, but we're seeing some evidence with gen

1521
01:22:33.319 --> 01:22:36.359
Z that there's a swing back and a conservative political

1522
01:22:36.399 --> 01:22:40.039
direction as well. And I just I wonder if that

1523
01:22:40.239 --> 01:22:44.439
generation has grown up with so much of this nonsense

1524
01:22:44.680 --> 01:22:47.800
and actually a sizeable you know, percentage of them are

1525
01:22:47.840 --> 01:22:49.880
saying it's nonsense.

1526
01:22:49.960 --> 01:22:51.000
They recognize it.

1527
01:22:51.000 --> 01:22:54.800
For what it is and are able to say, yeah,

1528
01:22:54.840 --> 01:22:59.159
we're not we're not going in for that now. Obviously,

1529
01:22:59.239 --> 01:23:03.439
you still have a public school system that is largely

1530
01:23:04.119 --> 01:23:06.720
slanted in a very progressive direction. So I don't want

1531
01:23:06.760 --> 01:23:09.119
to have, you know, too much confidence here. The battle

1532
01:23:09.199 --> 01:23:13.199
is not necessarily one, but I do think there are

1533
01:23:13.520 --> 01:23:15.439
you know, that's another sign of hope that we can

1534
01:23:15.479 --> 01:23:16.520
point to in our culture.

1535
01:23:17.159 --> 01:23:19.039
Well, if things are moving in your favor and you

1536
01:23:19.079 --> 01:23:21.520
don't have to do quite the heavy lifting, because a

1537
01:23:21.560 --> 01:23:24.199
lot of the heavy lifting really ended up at home

1538
01:23:24.319 --> 01:23:27.079
with mom and dad. You know, kids come home and

1539
01:23:27.079 --> 01:23:30.119
going look at my grave? Depends on me going along

1540
01:23:30.159 --> 01:23:32.319
with this, and you know, and the parents go, what

1541
01:23:32.399 --> 01:23:35.880
are you crazy? What are you talking about? You know,

1542
01:23:36.039 --> 01:23:38.279
I mean there's a lot on the line there. There's

1543
01:23:38.840 --> 01:23:41.479
you know, the peer pressure. I mean, look at mom, Dad,

1544
01:23:42.319 --> 01:23:45.399
we're together maybe an hour a day, hour and a half.

1545
01:23:45.439 --> 01:23:49.039
You're both working. We have that together. I'm eight hours

1546
01:23:49.039 --> 01:23:51.920
with these crazy people, you know, and I got a

1547
01:23:51.920 --> 01:23:54.159
peer group here and they're pushing me in this direction.

1548
01:23:54.600 --> 01:23:58.479
Everything is happening, you know. Climate Yeah, I mean all

1549
01:23:58.520 --> 01:24:01.000
these things that you've taught me, and that I learned

1550
01:24:01.000 --> 01:24:04.279
on Sunday is in conflict with all this stuff, and

1551
01:24:05.239 --> 01:24:08.279
you know, God blessed the kids that they survived. You know, yeah,

1552
01:24:08.720 --> 01:24:09.920
this insanity, you.

1553
01:24:09.880 --> 01:24:12.399
Know, well, and we just need to have and not

1554
01:24:12.479 --> 01:24:15.199
that this inoculates them and that it's the perfect solution,

1555
01:24:15.319 --> 01:24:18.039
but I just think we've got to have an ongoing

1556
01:24:18.079 --> 01:24:23.680
conversation and I think cultivating a home where we're talking

1557
01:24:23.680 --> 01:24:26.800
about stuff. So I talk with my teens. So let's

1558
01:24:26.840 --> 01:24:31.159
talk about the complexity of immigration. You know, let's pick

1559
01:24:31.239 --> 01:24:34.640
one topic and why why does one side think this?

1560
01:24:34.720 --> 01:24:38.520
Why does one side think the other? You know, my

1561
01:24:38.640 --> 01:24:40.199
daughter came to me, it's probably been a couple of

1562
01:24:40.239 --> 01:24:43.399
years ago now, She's like, Dad, what what are the

1563
01:24:43.399 --> 01:24:47.520
things that separate Republicans and Democrats? You know, all of

1564
01:24:47.560 --> 01:24:50.720
my friends at school say they're Democrats, but I don't

1565
01:24:50.720 --> 01:24:52.720
even know that they know what that means. I want

1566
01:24:52.760 --> 01:24:54.359
to know what that means.

1567
01:24:54.359 --> 01:24:56.279
And so we talk about this stuff.

1568
01:24:56.640 --> 01:24:59.279
Right, well, And the thing is is that, you know,

1569
01:24:59.439 --> 01:25:02.159
maybe that was two years ago talking about now, and

1570
01:25:02.399 --> 01:25:04.640
it's like even the Democrats don't know what a democrat

1571
01:25:04.680 --> 01:25:07.479
is now, right, you know, God bless them. I mean,

1572
01:25:07.479 --> 01:25:10.359
they're just really lost and but you know, look at

1573
01:25:10.479 --> 01:25:13.760
they'll they'll come back, but it's just they're in the

1574
01:25:13.760 --> 01:25:19.399
wilderness right now, and you know, logic will will eventually return,

1575
01:25:19.439 --> 01:25:21.239
but it's going to take them a while because they

1576
01:25:21.319 --> 01:25:23.479
just went to such an extreme.

1577
01:25:24.520 --> 01:25:27.520
Well, and you know, the love affair with socialism is

1578
01:25:27.680 --> 01:25:29.760
you know, that's the other thing we talk about. I'm like, Okay,

1579
01:25:29.800 --> 01:25:35.479
here's why socialism doesn't work. It promises something that it

1580
01:25:35.520 --> 01:25:39.880
can't deliver, and it can't deliver on its promises because

1581
01:25:39.960 --> 01:25:44.880
it fundamentally underestimates the fact that we are falling. And

1582
01:25:45.039 --> 01:25:48.600
capitalism can be brutal, but I would say, relatively speaking,

1583
01:25:48.640 --> 01:25:51.640
at least with capitalism you have an honest and level

1584
01:25:51.640 --> 01:25:54.000
playing field. And I know there are corrupt companies out there,

1585
01:25:54.039 --> 01:25:57.720
I'm not talking about that. But with socialism and communism,

1586
01:25:58.479 --> 01:26:05.680
you get a fundamental assessment of the human condition and don't.

1587
01:26:05.520 --> 01:26:07.920
Get sucked into the lie it doesn't work.

1588
01:26:08.439 --> 01:26:14.439
You know, well, you reduce the cumulative influence dramatically. It

1589
01:26:14.479 --> 01:26:17.880
gets fractionalized. You mean, I mean in an open society,

1590
01:26:19.560 --> 01:26:22.720
a capitalistic society, you can take advantage of the three

1591
01:26:22.760 --> 01:26:27.199
hundred and thirty plus million people's brains out there they're

1592
01:26:27.239 --> 01:26:32.199
all contributing in socialism. Communism, it's reduced to a fraction

1593
01:26:32.319 --> 01:26:34.920
of that. So now you've got to rely on what

1594
01:26:35.079 --> 01:26:38.479
the polit bureau of maybe a couple of handfuls of

1595
01:26:38.520 --> 01:26:39.000
people that.

1596
01:26:40.439 --> 01:26:41.600
Old guys in a bathroom.

1597
01:26:41.840 --> 01:26:45.560
When I say handfuls, I want to spell the fools fools,

1598
01:26:45.720 --> 01:26:51.800
not ul just because it is foolishness, as God says

1599
01:26:51.960 --> 01:26:55.479
it's it's foolishness, and it becomes comedy in heaven, so

1600
01:26:56.279 --> 01:27:00.159
you know. But meanwhile it's painful for us because that's

1601
01:27:00.199 --> 01:27:04.479
what communism gives you. It's shared misery, as they say, Yeah, awardly. Anyway,

1602
01:27:04.520 --> 01:27:06.920
we got to leave it there until next week. Adam

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Well, good morning and welcome. Good to have you with us.

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Bill Martinez here along with doctor John Lott from the

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Prime Research Center. Hey doctor John, how you.

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Doing doing great? How about yourself?

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Hey Criic, Thank you for asking. We've got lots to

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catch up on. I just wanted to pick up on

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something we talked last time, and that is illegal crime rates.

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Do you have an update on that, John.

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I don't have any new data myself. You have places

1676
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like CATO and whatever that have put out more data

1677
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since we last talk, and you know, claiming that illegals

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commit crime at low rates. It's probably useful just to

1679
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go through because they get a lot of attention when

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they put out this stuff, and it's one of the

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reasons why if you look at surveys, as unbelievable as

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it seems to me, a plurality of Americans think that

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illegals commit crimes at lower rates than American citizens. What

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CATO does is they rely on something called the American

1685
01:31:50.880 --> 01:31:55.920
Community Survey, which surveys a three point five million people

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a year. Some of the people that they survey are

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in prison, and they ask people to volunteer whether they're

1688
01:32:02.640 --> 01:32:05.760
illegals in the United States or not, and they use

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that then to see the rate that illegals are in

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prison relative to American citizens. But they don't talk about

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the problems with using the survey that way, and none

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of the media that keeps on repeating their claims seems

1693
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to understand what the data actually involves.

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How crazy is that for you? I mean, you're a

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researcher data is king. I mean, it's got to be pure.

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It's the old saying, you know, kaka in, kaka out.

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Yeah, you know. Well, I mean, people just don't understand

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how the data is put together and what it's measuring.

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So in this case, the problem is is that if

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you're an illegal citizen and you're arrested for a crime,

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you can be deported simply because you're illegal even before

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and they can deport you as soon as you're arrested.

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They can deport you. If they're going to convict you,

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they can deport you immediately after you're convicted. And even

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if you go to prison, many illegals who are in

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prison are deported before the end of their term. And

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so you know, you have two guys who commit robbery,

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both of them sentenced to four years. One of them's

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an American citizen, one's the illegal. If the illegal is

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deported after three months in prison, they're not going to

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01:33:27.199 --> 01:33:30.600
show up as being you know, represented at the same

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rate that they should be in terms of the prison

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population that's there. It's because the American will serve all

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four years, and so you're more likely to pick up

1715
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Americans in prison than you are illegals, but they don't

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mention that, they don't explain it. The news media that

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you know, the New York Times that will have a

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front page story on the Cato stuff that's there, doesn't

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seem to understand these things. You write letters to the

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editor for the New York Times and they won't publish it. So,

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I mean, they have strong views on these things, and

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unfortunately it kind of infects people generally with the type

1723
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of misinformation that they have. But you know, we went

1724
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through before. I mean, you just look at the data

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from the Biden administration. A couple months before the election

1726
01:34:21.760 --> 01:34:26.840
last year, they ice acknowledged that of the seven point

1727
01:34:26.880 --> 01:34:31.039
four million so called non detained individuals illegals that were

1728
01:34:31.079 --> 01:34:36.439
released into the United States, six hundred and sixty two

1729
01:34:36.640 --> 01:34:41.279
thousand of them had criminal records. That's nine percent. But

1730
01:34:41.720 --> 01:34:44.680
the point is is that's a real underestimate of the

1731
01:34:44.800 --> 01:34:48.159
true problem that's there. And the reason is is that

1732
01:34:48.760 --> 01:34:53.159
one a lot of countries like Venezuela, for example, will

1733
01:34:53.159 --> 01:34:57.319
not provide information on whether the illegals that are in

1734
01:34:57.319 --> 01:34:59.880
the United States from their country have criminal records or

1735
01:35:00.680 --> 01:35:04.279
and so the Bide administration discounted them as not having

1736
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a record. And two most of the non detained individuals,

1737
01:35:09.079 --> 01:35:12.439
almost all of them were ones who voluntarily turned themselves

1738
01:35:12.439 --> 01:35:15.960
in at the border. And so those aren't you know,

1739
01:35:16.359 --> 01:35:18.000
you still have a problem. I mean, you still got

1740
01:35:18.079 --> 01:35:20.680
nine percent of the ones that they did count had

1741
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criminal records, but they're not the ones that are really

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a problem. And the ones who are the real problems

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are the so called god it was once we saw

1744
01:35:30.079 --> 01:35:33.199
coming across the border, but we didn't catch. And there

1745
01:35:33.199 --> 01:35:36.439
are two million of those during the Biden administration, and

1746
01:35:37.600 --> 01:35:40.600
god knows how many more millions that we never even

1747
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saw coming across the border, let alone didn't catch because

1748
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the Bide administration had pulled off seventy six percent of

1749
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the border agents who were no longer guarding the border,

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01:35:53.920 --> 01:35:58.039
and we're instead processing the paperwork on illegals that were here.

1751
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And we had about a third of the passive monitoring

1752
01:36:01.960 --> 01:36:05.600
equipment along the border was broken and the Biden administration

1753
01:36:05.720 --> 01:36:08.680
wouldn't fix it. And so you had large areas of

1754
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the border, presumably areas that the cartels knew about where

1755
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we didn't have anybody watching the border.

1756
01:36:16.680 --> 01:36:19.319
Right, Well, the cartels aren't stupid, They know they know

1757
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how to get around, and you know, the Biden administration

1758
01:36:23.199 --> 01:36:25.560
made it easy. John, just real briefly here. I mean

1759
01:36:25.600 --> 01:36:30.840
the numbers you ran up probably about nine million. That

1760
01:36:30.920 --> 01:36:34.239
number now has been growing in the media. I guess

1761
01:36:34.399 --> 01:36:38.520
is an anecdotal response somewhere between fifteen and twenty million

1762
01:36:38.720 --> 01:36:42.760
illegal immigrants coming across the border, either in the form

1763
01:36:42.800 --> 01:36:46.600
of god aways, like you said, snuck through people that

1764
01:36:46.640 --> 01:36:49.720
we know about that whole combined number as much as

1765
01:36:49.760 --> 01:36:53.279
twenty million people during the four years of Joe Biden.

1766
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Right.

1767
01:36:55.680 --> 01:36:59.880
Well, look, if you know the ones who we either volunteer,

1768
01:37:00.079 --> 01:37:03.760
they turned themselves in, or we caught plus godaways, it's

1769
01:37:03.800 --> 01:37:08.600
about twelve million. Beyond that, it's just a guess how

1770
01:37:08.640 --> 01:37:11.640
many there. We don't see them coming across, as we

1771
01:37:11.800 --> 01:37:14.520
just talked about the large areas of the border where

1772
01:37:14.520 --> 01:37:20.680
we're not watching what's going on. And you know, it's

1773
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just a guess. But I wouldn't be about the christ

1774
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if it's twenty million or more.

1775
01:37:26.640 --> 01:37:28.960
Right, Yeah, the good news we've had about a million,

1776
01:37:29.520 --> 01:37:32.880
according to Tom Homan that have self deported, So.

1777
01:37:33.399 --> 01:37:38.760
He didn't quite say that. What people have looked at

1778
01:37:38.960 --> 01:37:41.960
and I think they're not reading the data correctly, is

1779
01:37:42.000 --> 01:37:46.840
that they look at the drop in employment for non

1780
01:37:47.319 --> 01:37:53.279
citizens And the problem is is that so during the

1781
01:37:53.319 --> 01:37:58.119
Biden administration, about five million of the so called jobs

1782
01:37:58.159 --> 01:38:02.000
that were created were for now native born Americans. Now

1783
01:38:02.039 --> 01:38:04.600
we don't know how many of those were due to

1784
01:38:05.359 --> 01:38:09.000
people who were here illegally versus here people that were

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01:38:09.039 --> 01:38:13.720
here illegally. Since Trump took over, the number of jobs

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held by non Americans, either legal or illegal immigrants, has

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fallen by about seven hundred and seventy thousand. And that's

1788
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where they largely get the one million number from. The

1789
01:38:28.239 --> 01:38:32.880
problem is is that, you know, a lot of them

1790
01:38:32.920 --> 01:38:38.680
could be legal immigrants. But even for the illegal ones,

1791
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just because they no longer are in the illegal workforce

1792
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doesn't mean that they haven't gone underground. Doesn't mean that

1793
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they're not doing other things, you know, it doesn't mean

1794
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that they're self deported. It's possible that some of them

1795
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self deported, but it's not it's not going to be

1796
01:38:58.000 --> 01:39:01.279
anywhere near seven hundred and seventy thousand, right.

1797
01:39:01.479 --> 01:39:04.600
Well, like you said, I mean, even Americans do this.

1798
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When things get tough, they will participate in the underground

1799
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gig economy and work under the table. And you know

1800
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that sort of thing because it's a matter of survival, right, I.

1801
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Agree, I agree. I mean, I'm sure that there have

1802
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been a number of people who have self deported. And look,

1803
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I think we see the impact of the deportations that

1804
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we've had in other ways. I mean, right now we're

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on track for the lowest murder rate ever recorded in

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If that trend continues, we're gonna have the lowest murder

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rate ever. And most likely we have two things that

1809
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are occurring in that. One is the fact that you've deported,

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You've taken out of the country a lot of bad

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we haven't caught yet are maybe wanting to lay low

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because if they get arrested then you know, they'll get

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radar is just not to commit crimes right now, for alack,

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and so hopefully, you know, I think there's some of

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Thanks John, you heard it. Folks, take advantage of this

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opportunity and call now eight hundred seven four five nine

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zero nine zero.

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It's just about fourteen minutes before the top they are

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right now. He is the author of the book Gun Control,

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Miss doctor John Lott. He's the president of the Crime

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Prevention Research Center. You know, speaking of these numbers, you

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know Kathy Hockel, the governor of New York and of

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course Oro Mamdani. I say Zoro Mamdani is zoron. I

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guess to be be respectful. Uh the uh it looks

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like the mayor of choice for New Yorkers, the socialist

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Uh boy. They were just coming out with all kinds

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of anecdotal information regarding gun control because of the latest

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shooting of an officer in blue Yeah.

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Look, uh, you know what they don't seem to understand

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is the problems that have been created by the gun

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control laws that they have uh in New York and

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New York City. So this individual, uh, committed lots of

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crimes when he was there.

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You know.

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Obviously it was the gun that he had was banned,

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The magazine that he had was banned.

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Uh.

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Openly carrying a gun is banned. Carrying a rifle uh

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publicly is banned. Uh. And so I mean the guy

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would have been facing a fair amount of prison sentences

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for that. But here's the problem. Obviously he died, so

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those prison sentences aren't relevant. But let's say he had

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even lived and would be facing four life sentences there,

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does anybody think taking seven years let's say from his

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fifth life, you could say, okay, well I can live

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with four life sentences, but you take seven years from

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my fifth life and that that will stop me from

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committing the crime. It's just not serious, that's there. It's

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it imposes no real penalty. And obviously he died, so

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he didn't even face the risk there. But he committed

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suicide but no real penalty. But here's the contrast. If

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you or I, and it's very difficult to get a

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concealed carry permit in New York City, and even if

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we do, it's banned to be able to go and

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carry in a huge.

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One and you can only get magazines with what seven

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rounds now or something like that. You can't even you

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can't even get a ten round.

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I think it's ten, but they passed a law that

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set seven, but I think a judge moved it up

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to ten. But anyway, you know, so you and I,

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if we were to go and violate the law that's

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there and be facing five years in prison or whatever,

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we'd be a felon. Our lives would be completely changed.

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It's a huge penalty for us, right, And so here's

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the problem. They set up the laws in order to

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try to protect people and stop criminals, but the way

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that they're set up is they really only affect the

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law abiding citizen exactly. You know, you don't want to

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be a fellon. Your life would be turned completely upside down.

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If you became a felon and had spent five years

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in jail, your career would be over. My career would

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be over. And so what you end up having happened

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is that the laws make it so that the only

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people who are going to have the weapons are going

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to be the criminals. The laws make it so that

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the criminals know that the law abiding citizens will be disarmed, right,

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And so anybody who reads the diaries or manifestos for

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these mass murderers, we don't know exactly yet all the

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thoughts that this murderer had. Time after time after time,

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they explicitly explain why they pick the targets that they do,

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and they explain that their goal is to get media coverage.

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And they know the more people they kill, the more

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media coverage that they're going to get. And they know

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if they go to a place where their victims are defenseless,

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they're going to be able to go and kill more people.

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So they explicitly talk about picking gun free zones. And

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I have to say it's my biggest pet peeve. It

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just drives me completely nuts. But the media, even though

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they cover and talk about the diaries of manifestos that

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these killers have, the media just refuses, just absolutely refuses

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to talk about those parts of their diaries and manifestos

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where they explain why they pick the targets that they do.

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And I want somebody, I mean, you're in the media business,

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I want somebody to explain to me why that isn't

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considered newsworthy. I think people would be interested in knowing

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why these guys picked the targets that they do. And

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my guess is that the entire gun control debate that

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we have right now would be very different if the

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media would say, we've had yet another mass public shooting

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in a place where guns were banned, because this killer

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explicitly went to a place like that. You know, and

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most of the country you're able to carry in the

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vast majority of places. There's only a few places that

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you're banned, and yet that's where the tax keep up.

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Two percent of the mass public shootings in the United

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States take place in areas where guns are banned. These

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killers may be crazy in some sense, but they're.

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Not stupidpid exactly well, And to your point, John, I mean,

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the manifestos that we've had read said as much said directly,

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the reason I targeted is because then you was a

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gun fore zone, right, And do you know I mean?

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And the thing is, even when the police explicitly talk

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about that motives for the killers there, the media still

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won't cover it. So like when we had the Nashville

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Covenant School shooting, the police chief that day had actually

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seen the killer's diary, had seen her diary, and in

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his press conference he said that she had gone and

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staked out other targets like the Green Hills Mall in

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the Nashville area, but it decided against attacking there because

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people had guns there.

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Exactly.

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She was worried that they would use the guns to

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stop her attack, right, So she picked the school that

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she knew something about, where she knew that they wouldn't

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have people who were able to go and stop her

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at that place. But even though the police chief explicitly

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talked about it in his comments, you will search in

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vain for any media discussion, even Fox or whatever that

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01:51:19.560 --> 01:51:24.640
goes and mentions that that's what the killer targeted and why.

2009
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But the manifesto itself, though the police chief held out

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I think even to this day, and I'm glad you

2011
01:51:31.159 --> 01:51:33.960
brought this up. Did we ever see or hear about

2012
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the manifesto at all?

2013
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John, Yeah, well, we've gotten it finally. But the problem

2014
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is is that the Nashville Police Department turned it over

2015
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to the Biden administration, and the Biden administration FBI basically

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sat on it for years afterwards, and it came out

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eventually that the reason why they did was because the

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murderer in that case was trained, and they didn't were

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worried about the backlash that might occur against trans individuals

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if people were able to go and read the diary.

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I mean, the person was a racist. The person had

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basically all the left wing views that you could imagine,

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and she obviously had real mental issues that were going

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on there. And you know, it's just you go and

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01:52:31.520 --> 01:52:35.239
look back. We virtually always get the information on these

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01:52:35.319 --> 01:52:41.079
killers immediately after the attack. Their diaries and manifesto has

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become public. Not in that case. And you know, if

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you have a white supremacist or somebody else. And by

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the way, most of these first of all, white supremacists

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are about eight percent of these killers, and about half

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of them are doing it because they're environmentalists. That they

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are upset with minorities, because they feel minorities are having

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too many children and they think that children damage the environment.

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They don't want people to have kids. But the media

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refuses to talk about those motivations for these killers too.

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Well, John, we go about three minute left. I wanted

2037
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to talk about AI chatbots relying on sources with clear biases.

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Break that down for us. You wrote about it, sure.

2039
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Well, I mean students are using AI chatbots to go

2040
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and write their essays for school. You have reporters they're

2041
01:53:41.079 --> 01:53:44.840
relying on it for information. You have researchers they're doing it.

2042
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You have voters who are trying to decide how they're

2043
01:53:47.960 --> 01:53:51.119
supposed to vote on different issues, going to AI chatbots

2044
01:53:51.159 --> 01:53:55.600
to help inform them about these things. Last year, we

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01:53:55.640 --> 01:53:59.840
did a survey of the twenty leading chat bots, asking

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01:53:59.840 --> 01:54:04.720
them a series of questions about crime and about gun control.

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We'd ask them questions like, do higher rest rates and

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01:54:09.359 --> 01:54:13.800
higher conviction rates deter some criminals from committing crime? All

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01:54:14.399 --> 01:54:17.159
the AI chat bots said that that was wrong. They

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01:54:17.199 --> 01:54:21.880
disagreed with that. Half of them strongly disagreed that higher

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01:54:21.920 --> 01:54:27.000
rest rates and higher conviction rates reduced crime. And you know,

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to me, it's just crazy stuff because it seems obvious

2053
01:54:31.159 --> 01:54:33.079
to me that you got to make it.

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Risks of conflicts.

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So anyway, I a couple of weeks ago, I had

2056
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a debate with groc which X's AI chat box, which,

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01:54:45.600 --> 01:54:49.680
by the way, tends to be relatively less biased than

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01:54:49.880 --> 01:54:55.479
other AI chat bots, but it's still really bad. Somebody

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01:54:55.560 --> 01:54:58.880
had asked it about the more guns, less crime hypothesis

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01:54:59.359 --> 01:55:03.920
and had responded saying, well, you know, right wingers believe that,

2061
01:55:04.039 --> 01:55:06.800
like John Lott, and I guess it kind of irked

2062
01:55:06.800 --> 01:55:12.239
me right that, well, I mean, I guess I'm responsible

2063
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for it, but you know, then it would cite people

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on the other side that they would just call researchers,

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and so I kind of was irked that they would just,

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you know, not call them left wingers.

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You know.

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So like they cite an article from Scientific American, they

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didn't cite my piece and Scientific American in response to it.

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They just site and I point out that the person

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who wrote the piece and Scientific American worked for Michael

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Bloomberg's gun control group, The Trace, And I said, anyway,

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we argued for a while about these things, and they

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would go Eventually they'd go and point to an article,

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a research article, and I said, look the article that

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01:55:54.960 --> 01:55:59.840
you're citing here. They don't account for any factors that

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could affect crime rates after a laws pass. Nothing on policing,

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nothing on prison, nothing on other gun control laws, nothing

2079
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on income or poverty that's there. And they would argue

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back and say, yes, it does. I said, here's the article,

2081
01:56:16.079 --> 01:56:19.359
here's a link to it. Here's what they say. Quote

2082
01:56:19.439 --> 01:56:24.039
to me where they say they can account for these factors. Finally,

2083
01:56:24.319 --> 01:56:26.920
after a long debate, they say, well, this other article

2084
01:56:27.039 --> 01:56:30.279
shows a statistical technique that you can use to do that.

2085
01:56:30.359 --> 01:56:33.079
I said, it's fine, but they don't deal with the

2086
01:56:33.520 --> 01:56:36.319
gun control issue that you're talking about in that paper.

2087
01:56:37.279 --> 01:56:41.520
Nobody uses this statistical technique to do to look at

2088
01:56:41.560 --> 01:56:45.880
the gun control issue that you're talking about. And finally,

2089
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after a long debate, they it finally conceded that I

2090
01:56:49.800 --> 01:56:54.439
was right on that. But I ended up talking to

2091
01:56:54.520 --> 01:56:59.279
an AI chatbot expert and they said, well, they're programmed

2092
01:56:59.319 --> 01:57:01.560
after a certain amount of time just to give in

2093
01:57:02.239 --> 01:57:06.920
on this. But when somebody else crolls over and they

2094
01:57:07.000 --> 01:57:10.760
just repeat the false information again, and you can see

2095
01:57:10.800 --> 01:57:13.560
them doing that again, even though they concede to me

2096
01:57:13.680 --> 01:57:14.439
that they were wrong.

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01:57:15.119 --> 01:57:17.520
That's crazy. I mean, I could just imagine on the

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server itself just falling over and smoke coming with the

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white flag.

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You know.

2101
01:57:23.560 --> 01:57:27.439
The problem is I write in this area. I've published

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about one hundred and twenty peer reviewed academic journals in

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a wide range of areas, so I know the research,

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I know the articles that they're citing. But you know,

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01:57:38.359 --> 01:57:40.800
most people aren't going to know these things. Most people

2106
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aren't going to go and look them up. For a

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lot of these journal articles, you have to pay like

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01:57:47.359 --> 01:57:49.680
thirty four dollars or whatever to go and get a

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01:57:49.720 --> 01:57:53.479
copy of the article that's there, right, And I doubt

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most people are going to do it. They're just gonna

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I mean, because the thing is, well, that's why they

2112
01:57:57.479 --> 01:58:01.479
thought come across as so certain about what they claim

2113
01:58:01.560 --> 01:58:06.359
the facts are. I doubt most students or reporters or

2114
01:58:06.840 --> 01:58:09.359
voters are going to go and look up that information.

2115
01:58:10.079 --> 01:58:13.399
Well, it kind of promotes the lazy man's mentality, right,

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01:58:13.600 --> 01:58:17.479
just the fast food approach to intelligence, And I don't

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know that that's all that well, serving all things considered,

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we got to leave it there. John, look forward to

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talking to you again, particularly about this, because no doubt

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this is going to continue to get more attention and

2121
01:58:31.520 --> 01:58:35.399
come more into focus as people realize how this plays

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out and the shortcomings of these AI chatbots. Doctor John Lott.

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He's the president of the Crime Prevention Research Center and

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01:58:43.319 --> 01:58:47.079
author of the book Gun Control Myths. John, thanks for

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01:58:47.119 --> 01:58:48.239
being with us, Take care.

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01:58:48.600 --> 01:58:51.079
Thanks for being there. People can find more at our website,

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01:58:51.119 --> 01:58:52.640
crimeresearch dot org.

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This is a National Healthcare alert regarding yours SEAPAP supplies.

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Using a clean SEAPAP mask and clean supplies is important

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to staying healthy. The best way to make sure your

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SEATPAP equipment is clean is to get new supplies. If

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you have Medicare, we have great news. Medicare will pay

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for you to have new clean supplies every ninety days.

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We'll even do all the paperwork for you to make

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sure that there's little to no out of pocket cost

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to you, and you don't even have to leave your home.

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We provide free in home delivery. So if you're a

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SEAPAP user and you have Medicare, staying healthy with new

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SEATPAP equipment is easy. Just make this free phone call

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right now to get started.

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Sponsored by Specialty Medical. Eight hundred two five four one

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two one eight hundred two five four one four two one.

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