Aug. 6, 2025
The Bill Martinez Show 08 06 25
The Bill Martinez Show 08 06 25
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Are you ready.
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Yeah, Okay, let's do it.
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Ill Martinez Live a program about current events, our culture,
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our values, our politics, and our future.
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And now Bill Martinez.
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Well, good morning, Tia.
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Six minutes after the top of the our Bill Martinez
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here along with doctor Paul ken Gore, Professor of Political
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Science and Chief Academic Fellow of the Institute for Faith
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and Freedom and Grove City College.
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Hey Paul, good morning, Hey Bill.
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How you doing.
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Hey, I'm doing great. Excited to talk about so much.
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I mean, the Vatican has just been such a highlight
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of what over a million young people coming out to
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celebrate the jubilee the twenty fifth year, which is interesting
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because normally the Bible talks about fifty years Catholics like
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twenty five years, but in the twenty fifth year, over
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a million young kids came to came for hope. I
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guess is probably the best way to put.
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It, right.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, it was really good to see and the new
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Pope Leo the fourteenth, the first American pawn iff, was
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treated like a rock star. I mean, the guy circled
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above the crowd in a helicopter, this white Vatican helicopter, right,
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so like the like the you know the right, everything's white,
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you know, the pope is and he's the only bishop,
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the Bishop of Rome, who wears white. So he was
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really treated welcomed enthusiastically, and it looked like, you know,
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quite a quite a scene in Rome. I'll tell you
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that time of year, Bill, it's it's really hot in
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Rome this time of year. I gotta wonder what the
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temperature is. It's probably probably in the mid nineties. But
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I guess younger people have better endurance with that than
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than I do, so I'm sure they're probably all right.
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Well, good for them. I mean, look what happened. I mean, uh,
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the numbers came out last year. The Catholic Church was
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the only religion to have an increase in numbers, Paul,
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What does that tell you?
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Yeah, yeah, it's impressive.
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In fact, I don't know what those numbers were, but
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I could tell you the latest that I saw. In fact,
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I was looking this up just a couple of days
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ago from my biography of Pope Leo, and I think
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the Catholic Church is at about one point six billion,
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I think, right exactly, getting all together. And and that
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was it wasn't a big increase. I mean, it was
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anywhere from maybe one percent to ten percent.
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I think I think somewhere estimated about two percent. But
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even still, Paul, everybody else went down, the Catholic merch increased,
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so regardless of the number, the fact that it moved
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up is notable. And then you have all these young
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people coming to the Vatican estimated one point two million
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young kids there for the twenty five year jubilee, and
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their sense of enthusiasm in watching them, how they were responding,
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I mean it was it was really a an encouraging
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spiritual movement and moment for me as I was watching it.
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Yeah, it really where so where the growth is occurring
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and this is all very positive. First of all, it's
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been mainly in Africa and Asia, so Western Europe has
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not done well. The Catholic Church in America it's kind
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of held steady, but it's definitely gone down decreased since
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Vatican too, over like a fifty year period. But where
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it's growing is among traditionalists right, people who are more
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orthodox in the faith lower case O orthodox right, and.
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Among young people.
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And really the only growth you're seeing in Western Europe
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in countries like France and Germany where they've had these
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liberal bishops and cardinals that have just you know, tried
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tried to take the Roman Catholic Church over the cliff.
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The only growth has been with young people, young conservative people.
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You kind of akin to the you know, the young
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conservative men who are flocking to the Republican Party right
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now under Donald Trump, tired of wokeism, the Democrats liberalism,
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and you're seeing a lot of that in the Catholic
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Church too. But you're right in comparison to you know,
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non Catholic Christian denominations, I mean, in Protestantism, I think
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probably the evangelical churches are probably holding their own pretty well,
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but the mainline denominations are just crashing. And I used
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to be Presbyterian Presbyterian Church USA, and the PCUSA was
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one of the mainline denominations, and it is now, you know,
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the great imploding mainline denomination. I think they're now close
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to about a million members, maybe even under that. The
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Methodist United Methodist Church, which was once just as huge
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mainline denomination, they're in big trouble. The Evangelical Lutheran Church
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of America. I mean the Lutherans are in I mean,
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it's uh, yeah, it's it's not good. And what has
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hurt all of those churches liberalism secondary.
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They they've abandoned their brand.
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Paul, this is something I've been talking about, whether it's
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Delan mulvaney and the and bud Light, uh, these movie
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producers and that sort of thing, when they are inconsistent
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with what they're presenting the market.
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Look at Jaguar.
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Jaguar came out with the goofiest ad ever and they
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took it right over the cliff. And so all these
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uh d I A de e I agents and uh
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uh and these progressive thinkers again, the marketplace has has
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told them they don't want them, and they've they're spitting
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them out. And so my my caution to the church
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is you need to really certify who you are and
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and reh re engage your original mission. I keep saying,
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and I've been saying this for the last couple of years.
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I've been taking everybody to the first Book of Genesis,
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that first sentence in the beginning. You've got to go
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back to the beginning to remember the why of who
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you are and why you're here.
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Well, you know, and also that that book says in
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the beginning he created them male and female Now, part
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of the problem with the with the liberal denominations is
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they reject even that right.
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No, no, no, no, We've we've got over.
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One hundred different gender options and he didn't create either one.
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If he did, he messed up because he created all
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this gender dysphoria. And yeah, that's just your assigned birth right,
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that's your biological birth right. So the and and really
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the problem with the mainline denominations it goes back to
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the seminaries. They're bringing in strictly pastors who are liberals,
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left wingers. I went through this, in fact, I was
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on the I was on the pastoral search committee at
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my Presbyterian Church, USA church in the nineteen nineties, and
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out of the about one hundred applications that we reviewed,
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I think maybe the only two or three were kind
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of conservative or even pro life and not kind of
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radical left. And we actually picked a female pastor, and myself,
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as a Roman Catholic, I don't think women should be priests,
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so that's a whole other thing. But the most conservative
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person that we could find, the only pro life person
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we could find was was it was a female pastor.
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So the problem with the main lines is as much
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as you, and I see what their problem is.
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They believe they haven't become liberal enough.
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Right.
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Well, they're like they're like the Democratic They're like the
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Democratic Party right now, Paul, right right, you know they're falling,
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They're falling the lead.
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We've got about a minute and a half left in
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this segment. You've been working on a bio for Pope
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Leo the fourteenth, Any any news breaking, news enlightenment that
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you can share with the right now, Yeah.
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I can't say that there's been anything real new or
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revelatory in the last few weeks.
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And you know, other than this.
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Guy is just like has this calm, steady, kind of serene,
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measured leadership, more traditional, more stable, and you're not seeing
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the chaos and confusion that you saw under Pope Francis.
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And that's what everybody in the conclave seem to have
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wanted with Leo the fourteenth is somebody to stop the
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chaos and confusion. I mean, the Pope's job isn't to
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create instability, right, I mean this is a two thousand
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year old institution, right, So this guy seems to be slowly,
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steadily bringing the church back to stability and order, which
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is what a Pope really ought to be about.
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