Aug. 6, 2025

The Bill Martinez Show 08 06 25

The Bill Martinez Show 08 06 25
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The Bill Martinez Show 08 06 25
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Are you ready.

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Yeah, Okay, let's do it.

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Ill Martinez Live a program about current events, our culture,

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our values, our politics, and our future.

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And now Bill Martinez.

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Well, good morning, Tia.

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Six minutes after the top of the our Bill Martinez

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here along with doctor Paul ken Gore, Professor of Political

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Science and Chief Academic Fellow of the Institute for Faith

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and Freedom and Grove City College.

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Hey Paul, good morning, Hey Bill.

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How you doing.

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Hey, I'm doing great. Excited to talk about so much.

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I mean, the Vatican has just been such a highlight

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of what over a million young people coming out to

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celebrate the jubilee the twenty fifth year, which is interesting

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because normally the Bible talks about fifty years Catholics like

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twenty five years, but in the twenty fifth year, over

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a million young kids came to came for hope. I

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guess is probably the best way to put.

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It, right.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, it was really good to see and the new

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Pope Leo the fourteenth, the first American pawn iff, was

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treated like a rock star. I mean, the guy circled

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above the crowd in a helicopter, this white Vatican helicopter, right,

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so like the like the you know the right, everything's white,

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you know, the pope is and he's the only bishop,

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the Bishop of Rome, who wears white. So he was

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really treated welcomed enthusiastically, and it looked like, you know,

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quite a quite a scene in Rome. I'll tell you

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that time of year, Bill, it's it's really hot in

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Rome this time of year. I gotta wonder what the

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temperature is. It's probably probably in the mid nineties. But

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I guess younger people have better endurance with that than

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than I do, so I'm sure they're probably all right.

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Well, good for them. I mean, look what happened. I mean, uh,

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the numbers came out last year. The Catholic Church was

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the only religion to have an increase in numbers, Paul,

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What does that tell you?

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Yeah, yeah, it's impressive.

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In fact, I don't know what those numbers were, but

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I could tell you the latest that I saw. In fact,

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I was looking this up just a couple of days

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ago from my biography of Pope Leo, and I think

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the Catholic Church is at about one point six billion,

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I think, right exactly, getting all together. And and that

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was it wasn't a big increase. I mean, it was

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anywhere from maybe one percent to ten percent.

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I think I think somewhere estimated about two percent. But

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even still, Paul, everybody else went down, the Catholic merch increased,

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so regardless of the number, the fact that it moved

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up is notable. And then you have all these young

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people coming to the Vatican estimated one point two million

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young kids there for the twenty five year jubilee, and

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their sense of enthusiasm in watching them, how they were responding,

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I mean it was it was really a an encouraging

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spiritual movement and moment for me as I was watching it.

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Yeah, it really where so where the growth is occurring

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and this is all very positive. First of all, it's

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been mainly in Africa and Asia, so Western Europe has

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not done well. The Catholic Church in America it's kind

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of held steady, but it's definitely gone down decreased since

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Vatican too, over like a fifty year period. But where

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it's growing is among traditionalists right, people who are more

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orthodox in the faith lower case O orthodox right, and.

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Among young people.

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And really the only growth you're seeing in Western Europe

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in countries like France and Germany where they've had these

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liberal bishops and cardinals that have just you know, tried

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tried to take the Roman Catholic Church over the cliff.

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The only growth has been with young people, young conservative people.

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You kind of akin to the you know, the young

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conservative men who are flocking to the Republican Party right

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now under Donald Trump, tired of wokeism, the Democrats liberalism,

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and you're seeing a lot of that in the Catholic

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Church too. But you're right in comparison to you know,

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non Catholic Christian denominations, I mean, in Protestantism, I think

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probably the evangelical churches are probably holding their own pretty well,

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but the mainline denominations are just crashing. And I used

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to be Presbyterian Presbyterian Church USA, and the PCUSA was

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one of the mainline denominations, and it is now, you know,

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the great imploding mainline denomination. I think they're now close

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to about a million members, maybe even under that. The

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Methodist United Methodist Church, which was once just as huge

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mainline denomination, they're in big trouble. The Evangelical Lutheran Church

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of America. I mean the Lutherans are in I mean,

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it's uh, yeah, it's it's not good. And what has

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hurt all of those churches liberalism secondary.

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They they've abandoned their brand.

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Paul, this is something I've been talking about, whether it's

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Delan mulvaney and the and bud Light, uh, these movie

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producers and that sort of thing, when they are inconsistent

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with what they're presenting the market.

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Look at Jaguar.

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Jaguar came out with the goofiest ad ever and they

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took it right over the cliff. And so all these

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uh d I A de e I agents and uh

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uh and these progressive thinkers again, the marketplace has has

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told them they don't want them, and they've they're spitting

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them out. And so my my caution to the church

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is you need to really certify who you are and

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and reh re engage your original mission. I keep saying,

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and I've been saying this for the last couple of years.

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I've been taking everybody to the first Book of Genesis,

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that first sentence in the beginning. You've got to go

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back to the beginning to remember the why of who

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you are and why you're here.

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Well, you know, and also that that book says in

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the beginning he created them male and female Now, part

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of the problem with the with the liberal denominations is

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they reject even that right.

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No, no, no, no, We've we've got over.

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One hundred different gender options and he didn't create either one.

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If he did, he messed up because he created all

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this gender dysphoria. And yeah, that's just your assigned birth right,

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that's your biological birth right. So the and and really

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the problem with the mainline denominations it goes back to

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the seminaries. They're bringing in strictly pastors who are liberals,

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left wingers. I went through this, in fact, I was

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on the I was on the pastoral search committee at

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my Presbyterian Church, USA church in the nineteen nineties, and

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out of the about one hundred applications that we reviewed,

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I think maybe the only two or three were kind

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of conservative or even pro life and not kind of

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radical left. And we actually picked a female pastor, and myself,

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as a Roman Catholic, I don't think women should be priests,

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so that's a whole other thing. But the most conservative

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person that we could find, the only pro life person

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we could find was was it was a female pastor.

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So the problem with the main lines is as much

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as you, and I see what their problem is.

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They believe they haven't become liberal enough.

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Right.

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Well, they're like they're like the Democratic They're like the

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Democratic Party right now, Paul, right right, you know they're falling,

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They're falling the lead.

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We've got about a minute and a half left in

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this segment. You've been working on a bio for Pope

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Leo the fourteenth, Any any news breaking, news enlightenment that

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you can share with the right now, Yeah.

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I can't say that there's been anything real new or

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revelatory in the last few weeks.

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And you know, other than this.

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Guy is just like has this calm, steady, kind of serene,

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measured leadership, more traditional, more stable, and you're not seeing

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the chaos and confusion that you saw under Pope Francis.

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And that's what everybody in the conclave seem to have

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wanted with Leo the fourteenth is somebody to stop the

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chaos and confusion. I mean, the Pope's job isn't to

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create instability, right, I mean this is a two thousand

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year old institution, right, So this guy seems to be slowly,

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steadily bringing the church back to stability and order, which

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is what a Pope really ought to be about.

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Yeah, without a doubt, we've got to go to quick Break.

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Back with in nineteen minutes after the top of the

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out Right Now Doctor Paul Kenngre, Professor of Political Science

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and Chief Academic Fellow of the Institute for Faith and

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Freedom at Grove City College. It's amazing that nobody is,

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I guess, protected from the fray of fake news. There's

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been some reports that, you know, big block busting news

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from Pope Leo that he found something in the Vatican

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archives proving the illegitimacy of the Roman Catholic Church.

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Did you see that?

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No, I haven't seen that. That's news to me.

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Well, and that's what I told the person who sent

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it to me.

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I said, you need to be real careful because if

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you're going to send stuff like that, you need to

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fact check it. I go, there's nothing I mean, because

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when he said it to me, I started going all

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over the place and looking to see, Okay, what what

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did Pope Leo run into in the Vatican archives? That

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were so, you know, with such a blockbuster and earth

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shattering and there's nothing there. So I would say to

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all my friends that want to attack this pope, because

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like anything, when when you're the leader, especially of an

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institution like this, like the Catholic Church, they're going to

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come at you. The knives are out, and especially right

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now as the counterculture and Dei Agency and all these

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progressives seem to be fading.

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I mean they're not going away, but they definitely have

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less less place and prominence than they had even two

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years ago.

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Paul, Yeah, well, no question, and you know, theologically not

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to get into a big argument and refight the Reformation, right,

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but you know, but Christ founded a church, and you know, Peter,

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you are the rock on this rock. I will build

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my church and through the disciples. And Christ didn't leave

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us a Bible. He left us a church through which,

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through the first four hundred years actually put together the

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Canon of Scripture. And you know, nicea the niceeing Creed

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three twenty five three eighty one a d define the Trinity.

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So you know, you'd have to assume that that Jesus

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made a mistake for the first fifteen hundred years.

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So how arrogant, Huh.

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I mean, right, So.

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Even if even if you believe in the Reformation that

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it was needed, you don't want to go down the

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road of saying that Jesus made a mistake for fifteen

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hundred years till Luther alone figured it out. And in fact,

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that would wipe out a lot of good people, Augustine

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Cyril of Alexandria, Right, all kinds and all kinds of

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good good saints and people and between. And I always

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you know, my good friends at Grove City College who

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are five point Calvinists, Anglicans, Evangelicals. You know, we we

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all realize that, you know, we we need each other.

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And you know, the worst thing that could happen would

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be for you know what, one of our churches to

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completely collapse. We're all in this together, fighting, uh, fighting

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the cultural revolutionaries and the secularists and atheists.

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And the thing is, I've always said that in many respects,

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we're like blind men filling different parts of the elephant. Right,

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it's the same elephant, you know, It's just we have

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a different perspective when we're.

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At the different end of the elephant.

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And uh, And if we can communicate back and forth.

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It's amazing what kind of enlightenment can be really realized, right.

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Yeah, And in fact that you know, really most of

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that elephant right now would be the Roman Catholic Church,

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like you said, one point six billion members and uh,

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and it's and it's the one that the only one

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that had increases in the last few years. By the way,

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even under Pope Francis, to many of us Catholics, to

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quote the Lake Cardinal pell we considered his papacy a catastrophe.

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The fact that it still grew is is really pretty remarkable.

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So I would tell that that person who sent that

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to you pray for Pope Leo the fourteenth right and

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bring a kind of a peace in unity that he's.

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Been praying for.

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It's interesting his very first word, quite literally from the

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Loggia the day that he yeah, peace right the pace

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concei of contuti voi, which is peace be with all

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of you, which were the words that Jesus said to

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the apostles when when he when he right after right

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after his resurrection. So we want peace and unity in

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the church, especially against the forces of disunity who hate

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Christianity and hate Christ.

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And you're exactly right, Paul, And this is all of

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Jesus's Church, right yeah, Because I know we know where

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judgment begins. It begins the church, and I believe that

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we may be entering that era sooner than we realize.

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I think there's been some you know, some minor you

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might say, judgments that have taken place, But I think

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that the church, from my humble observation, is right, you know,

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for some serious judgment because you cannot continue to support abortion.

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I mean, last year, Paul, seventy seven million abortions that

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we're aware of, and that's not even giving full account

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for you know, the abortifation form of abortion that's been

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you know, continuing to increase.

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Oh yeah, and you look at all the pro choice

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pastors who are out there in some of those denominations.

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I mean, Planned Parenthood has had a chaplain for decades,

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right and people, you can look up Religious Coalition for

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Reproductive Choice, Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice.

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You will be horrified.

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And I'm dare to say even a lot of the

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conservatives listening right now, Bill, who have come to expect

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almost anything from liberals, might even be a guest of

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what they see from the religious coalition for reproductive choice,

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and there are some mainline denominations who.

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Are members of that group.

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They actually argue that that Christ would support abortion.

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So yeah, yeah, and you know that too.

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Yeah, the God, the God, the God of life, would

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go against his own character.

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Amazing, that's right, I.

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Mean that makes no sense Onceoever, about four minutes left here,

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I did want to address your article a nation of

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slabs in light of in light of Sydney Sweeney, who

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continues to stay in the news, who single handedly has

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made beautiful great again.

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Yeah, she's no slab, that's for sure, exactly.

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And you know, I haven't looked at all of the

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pictures of her because I mean, for one thing, I'm

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a father of three daughters, all right, right, the party as.

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A good Catholic boy. I want to avoid the sin

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of lost right.

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Right, She didn't do a Paris Hilton washing the car

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and water dripping all over her wet T shirt or

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anything like that.

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No, it's right and from and from what I have seen,

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because I mean we've run a half dozen articles in

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her a American Spectator. I mean she seemed to be

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about as fully clothed as you can get. I mean,

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she has jeans covering her all the way to her

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wrists and to her ankles. I mean, obviously I've seen that,

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you know her, you know, upper part of her breasts

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are pretty exposed, right, But but I mean compared to

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the kind of stuff we've come to expect in terms

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of racy ads, I mean, she's not she's not advertising

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bikinis in g strings, right, I mean this is uh.

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I thought these were actually pretty mild. And I've heard

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some conservatives say, ah, you shouldn't support her, even.

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If she's a Republican because because of these.

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Racey ads, and I think I don't think they're really

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all that inappropriate.

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I mean, the girl is pretty fully clad.

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I just probably were cover than Pope Leo a little bit.

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Run wow. Yeah, yeah, It's just they just went sideways.

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Their head exploded because it was an idea they wish

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they had had. But you can't deliver an idea from

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the vicinity in which they live, Paul. They're so ideologically

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fixed in DEI and you know, men wearing women's dresses

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and bud like commercials and you know, brand busting type

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of commercials that something like this that is Americana is

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beyond them and then they're shocked because look at the

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response here, and I thought, you know, in light of

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the article that you wrote a nation of Slavs, you know,

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and Jordan Peterson said it.

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I mean, he's been cautioning you know that.

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My thought was, you know, because I know that you

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talked to Jordan Peterson about this, is that, you know,

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the Democrats forget about spending twenty million dollars trying to

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figure out how to talk to men. Maybe they just

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need to have a conversation with Jordan Peterson.

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Well, and also too with the with the Sidney Sween

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Sidney Sweeney ad so it's about genes J E. A.

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N S Blue gens.

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But the liberals immediately assumed genes like genetics, right.

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Yeah, it was eugenics and all this stuff, yes, right.

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Right, yeah, they're the masters of eugenics. I mean, that's

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Margaret Sanger and their playing parenthood. And I don't even

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know if they intended a double meaning with the word genes.

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I mean, but I think probably an American eagle has

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been quiet about this. Maybe they're trying to say, you know, Sidney,

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people say that Sidney Sweeney has great you know what,

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referring to.

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Her body parts.

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I think they met a substitute of genes for that.

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I don't think they were intending double meaning with genetics.

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No, I don't. I don't think. I think it was

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just a clear deal.

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I mean it's just like here, you've got this beautiful girl,

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and uh in America could uh you know, can appreciate beauty.

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And guess what for guys that that's in our wiring.

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We respect and acknowledge beauty, don't we. I mean, we

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don't even need.

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To be told to.

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And and I say all that we say all the

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time in a certainly non racist way. In fact, one

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of my buddies at church a couple of weeks ago

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was commenting in a good looking family at church, and I.

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Said, yeah, your daughters are blessed with good genes.

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You know, those are going to be pretty girls, right,

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And we didn't mean that in any kind of insulting

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or provocative or sexual way. And and but in terms

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of a Cinny Sweeney being a white girl with blonde hair,

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I'd say that about black girls that are that are pretty, right,

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you know, look at.

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Some beyond something similar not that long ago, right.

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Halle very yeah, I mean I can name so many

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black women off the top of my head over the

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final minutes of this show, who obviously have good genes. Yes,

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I mean nice genetics aren't reserved obviously to this girl.

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But this shows what the left is about. They're vicious

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and angry and nasty and hateful and yeah, critical race theorists. Basically,

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they divide everybody according to ethnicity, genes, genetics.

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They're really vicious.

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Well, God bless them well. Doctor Paul ken Gore is

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always your blessing. You bless us all the time. I

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appreciate you coming on. Paul is a professor of political

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science and Chief Academic Fellow of the Institute for Faith

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and Freedom at Grove City College.

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Thank you, Paul, Take care, God bless.

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All right, save with you, Bill.

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Well, good morning, America. Good to have you with us.

519
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I'm Gil Martinez's Jeff camp, the ministry leader and former

520
00:28:14.640 --> 00:28:15.359
nfl QB.

521
00:28:16.160 --> 00:28:16.400
Jeff.

522
00:28:16.440 --> 00:28:18.720
How you doing, buddy, I'm well. Good to see it, Bill.

523
00:28:18.839 --> 00:28:23.000
I I just got to come back from a trip

524
00:28:23.039 --> 00:28:29.319
to Indianapolis, where I an entrepreneurial construction business, hired me

525
00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:33.000
to do two and a half days of team coaching

526
00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:37.680
and team training out how to build a great team

527
00:28:37.720 --> 00:28:41.640
that can overcome blitzes and trials and challenges and get

528
00:28:41.680 --> 00:28:44.680
different people to work together and a culture you know,

529
00:28:44.680 --> 00:28:47.640
where everyone's kind of out for themselves. And there are

530
00:28:47.680 --> 00:28:50.119
some great experiences in that. I look forward to talking

531
00:28:50.160 --> 00:28:51.519
about some of those lessons.

532
00:28:52.240 --> 00:28:54.759
So what was the big wow, you know, the big

533
00:28:54.799 --> 00:28:55.759
aha moment there?

534
00:28:56.200 --> 00:28:58.160
I think the big the big aha might have been

535
00:28:58.200 --> 00:29:02.000
that this was a bunch of get it done construction

536
00:29:02.119 --> 00:29:06.200
people right that you have the top leader owners, you

537
00:29:06.319 --> 00:29:11.119
got superintendents, you got the foreman, and then you got

538
00:29:11.160 --> 00:29:17.200
the specialists from carpenters to pipe layers to bulldozer drivers.

539
00:29:17.920 --> 00:29:20.039
These are these are guys with callouses, is what you're

540
00:29:20.039 --> 00:29:20.519
telling me.

541
00:29:20.759 --> 00:29:27.480
More than me. Yeah. And and maintenance. I didn't realize

542
00:29:27.519 --> 00:29:32.319
how much maintenance of the equipment is a crucial part

543
00:29:33.400 --> 00:29:36.079
of a business like that, which you know, that guy

544
00:29:36.200 --> 00:29:38.240
kind of goes back to Stephen Covey's you got to

545
00:29:38.279 --> 00:29:38.880
sharpen this off.

546
00:29:38.880 --> 00:29:40.440
If you don't, you're going to say, I was going

547
00:29:40.519 --> 00:29:43.000
to say, the Bible says that very clearly as well.

548
00:29:44.160 --> 00:29:46.039
It's easier to cut when it's sharp, right.

549
00:29:46.400 --> 00:29:49.759
Yeah, if you don't keep your equipment in good shape,

550
00:29:50.119 --> 00:29:54.000
you slow everything down. Well, I talked to them about

551
00:29:54.440 --> 00:29:58.400
trust is kind of like that that if there isn't trust,

552
00:29:58.440 --> 00:30:03.119
it slows everything down. You can't handle a conflict, It

553
00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:07.200
becomes messy and elongated. You can't make a change because

554
00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:11.119
people don't trust the new way of doing it, and

555
00:30:11.160 --> 00:30:15.359
you really can't get understanding between people. So communication breaks

556
00:30:15.400 --> 00:30:17.880
down when there's not trust, So.

557
00:30:18.319 --> 00:30:21.240
You lose sight of the vision Jeff, you know, because

558
00:30:21.279 --> 00:30:22.839
because then all of a sudden it becomes about me

559
00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:24.160
trust it.

560
00:30:24.799 --> 00:30:25.839
Trust is communal.

561
00:30:26.519 --> 00:30:30.440
Without trust, Without trust, everything comes back into the short

562
00:30:30.519 --> 00:30:33.880
immediate term. Secondly, it leaves the we and it goes

563
00:30:33.920 --> 00:30:34.240
to the me.

564
00:30:35.119 --> 00:30:36.119
Yeah, exactly.

565
00:30:36.200 --> 00:30:39.039
And you and I have talked a lot about relationships

566
00:30:39.079 --> 00:30:42.400
need an attitude of being an investor and not a consumer. Well,

567
00:30:42.559 --> 00:30:47.400
without trust, things go back to the consumer mentality. What

568
00:30:47.440 --> 00:30:49.119
can I get? What are you giving me? What are

569
00:30:49.119 --> 00:30:51.559
you're not giving me? Expectations of the other person and

570
00:30:51.599 --> 00:30:55.960
not expectations of yourself. So that premise was kind of

571
00:30:56.000 --> 00:31:00.559
the aha, that this this team and its relationships have

572
00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:02.400
to be based on trust. Well, the question is, how

573
00:31:02.400 --> 00:31:05.960
do you build trust. And there are a lot of things,

574
00:31:06.000 --> 00:31:07.960
but I think today be fun to just talk about

575
00:31:08.000 --> 00:31:11.000
one that will make a huge difference in every marriage

576
00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:15.279
or every parent child relationship of anyone's listening to our

577
00:31:15.319 --> 00:31:17.400
show as well as anyone in work.

578
00:31:17.799 --> 00:31:19.039
Okay, wa'ts the number one thing.

579
00:31:19.680 --> 00:31:24.079
The number one thing is that we can create joy

580
00:31:24.119 --> 00:31:28.400
and peace and move people from their lower brain of

581
00:31:28.480 --> 00:31:32.039
just reactivity and selfishness and short term up to their

582
00:31:32.119 --> 00:31:37.319
upper brain image of God, long term generosity, kindness, planning

583
00:31:38.160 --> 00:31:41.880
by giving them something that we all want. It's affirmation

584
00:31:42.359 --> 00:31:46.400
and encouragement around something specific that we did, and you

585
00:31:46.480 --> 00:31:49.160
and I love to get encouraged. That gives us a

586
00:31:49.200 --> 00:31:51.720
dopamine hit of peace and joy. But we can't go

587
00:31:51.759 --> 00:31:53.759
around saying, hey, say something nice about me, Say you

588
00:31:53.839 --> 00:31:56.279
know something nice about me. But the thing we can

589
00:31:56.319 --> 00:32:00.119
control is we can praise and thank someone else. And

590
00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:03.400
I talked about how my coach, Bill Walsh with the

591
00:32:03.400 --> 00:32:06.480
forty nine Ers Hall of Famer, he used to coach

592
00:32:06.559 --> 00:32:09.680
me by putting a little videotape together Jeff Kemp Good

593
00:32:09.759 --> 00:32:12.319
Place and Jeff Kemp Bad Place, and he'd showed me

594
00:32:12.359 --> 00:32:15.039
all the good plays and say amazing things like this,

595
00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:17.480
This is excellent, this is great, This is exactly what

596
00:32:17.559 --> 00:32:20.440
we need, what high standards. Joe Montana doesn't do any

597
00:32:20.440 --> 00:32:24.279
better than this. That was high praise. He showed me

598
00:32:24.279 --> 00:32:26.880
that he valued me, he noticed me, and hef firmed

599
00:32:26.920 --> 00:32:29.519
me for what I was doing well on my strikes.

600
00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:32.599
Then he showed me the Jeff Kemp bad tape, which

601
00:32:32.599 --> 00:32:34.519
had a whole bunch more plays on it than the

602
00:32:34.559 --> 00:32:38.559
good ones. But I was ready to listen, learn and

603
00:32:38.599 --> 00:32:41.920
be coachable. And that had a lot to do with

604
00:32:41.960 --> 00:32:46.160
the fact that he tapped into the fundamental need that

605
00:32:46.240 --> 00:32:50.599
everyone has to be affirmed and appreciated exactly. There's a

606
00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:54.119
shortage of encouragement in this world. And so the aha

607
00:32:54.319 --> 00:32:57.000
for that company was, you know, where a bunch of big, gruff,

608
00:32:57.079 --> 00:32:59.440
callous guys trying to meet a deadline. You know, it's

609
00:32:59.480 --> 00:33:02.279
brained for too much the last three months. We're not

610
00:33:02.440 --> 00:33:04.839
catching up on our work fast enough. So everyone's kind

611
00:33:04.839 --> 00:33:07.039
of chop chop, get it done without saying thank you,

612
00:33:07.240 --> 00:33:11.799
without affirming, without praising. And so I think that was

613
00:33:11.880 --> 00:33:14.599
their aha is we're going to call out the good

614
00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:17.480
in one another. And I even give them an example

615
00:33:17.759 --> 00:33:19.559
on a little league football team. I used to give

616
00:33:19.559 --> 00:33:22.599
the kids all the praise after the games, and I said, nope,

617
00:33:22.599 --> 00:33:25.160
I'm gonna let the kids praise each other. And they

618
00:33:25.160 --> 00:33:27.359
started saying great things about one another, and the parents

619
00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:29.440
were just tears in their eyes listen to their little

620
00:33:29.519 --> 00:33:33.480
kid praise one another. So I think that what you

621
00:33:33.559 --> 00:33:35.559
and I and each person listening can take away as

622
00:33:36.839 --> 00:33:39.400
be on the lookout for the positive in your wife

623
00:33:39.480 --> 00:33:42.480
or your husband, your son or your daughter or grandson,

624
00:33:42.839 --> 00:33:46.440
the person you work with or work for, and when

625
00:33:46.480 --> 00:33:49.440
you see it, say it. When you see it, say it.

626
00:33:49.480 --> 00:33:51.240
That will build trust and when you need to handle

627
00:33:51.240 --> 00:33:54.599
a conflict in the future, like, hey, I don't think

628
00:33:55.319 --> 00:33:58.920
well that communication worked out so well, can you help

629
00:33:58.960 --> 00:34:00.880
me understand why you're going to be in a much

630
00:34:00.920 --> 00:34:03.079
better situation to do so if you've been praising the

631
00:34:03.119 --> 00:34:06.480
positive right right, Well, you.

632
00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:08.679
Know, it goes back when Jesus was asked about the

633
00:34:08.719 --> 00:34:12.519
greatest commandment, right the Pharisees thought they were going to

634
00:34:12.679 --> 00:34:15.480
put him in a corner. Yeah, trick him a little bit,

635
00:34:15.880 --> 00:34:19.320
and he quoted the Bible and it's almost, you know,

636
00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:22.079
word for word from the Shamah, something that they pray

637
00:34:22.119 --> 00:34:24.960
three times a day. First of all, you know you

638
00:34:25.000 --> 00:34:26.719
love God with all your heart, with all your mind,

639
00:34:26.719 --> 00:34:27.440
with all your strength.

640
00:34:27.480 --> 00:34:29.760
That's that's your pivot point. Kind of like what we've

641
00:34:29.760 --> 00:34:30.519
been saying time.

642
00:34:30.400 --> 00:34:34.559
In starting points, what's your launch what are you launching from?

643
00:34:34.880 --> 00:34:38.920
And if you're launching from this awareness of God and

644
00:34:38.960 --> 00:34:41.880
you're loving God because you can't give what you don't have,

645
00:34:42.239 --> 00:34:44.920
but you're filled up with God, and then now it's

646
00:34:44.960 --> 00:34:47.679
easier for you to love your neighbor as yourself. Now

647
00:34:47.679 --> 00:34:50.840
you can deposit into the neighbor what God is deposited

648
00:34:50.920 --> 00:34:51.480
into you.

649
00:34:51.960 --> 00:34:53.119
And the thing is.

650
00:34:52.880 --> 00:34:55.960
Is that, like you said, if you're not in a

651
00:34:56.000 --> 00:35:00.719
consumer mindset, you realize, because God is an end, that

652
00:35:00.719 --> 00:35:03.280
that flow of love to your neighbor can be un ending.

653
00:35:03.320 --> 00:35:05.840
It's not like, well, you know, Bill, I've already put

654
00:35:05.920 --> 00:35:08.840
two gallons into into my kids and my wife and

655
00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:11.239
I don't even have a quarter tank to you.

656
00:35:11.199 --> 00:35:13.199
Know, to posit into you. Right.

657
00:35:14.239 --> 00:35:17.400
So, God, the way he has designed us, it's most

658
00:35:17.559 --> 00:35:21.119
it's most amazing. So to the point is that in

659
00:35:21.159 --> 00:35:25.360
affirming one another, we're connected to the Father because the

660
00:35:25.400 --> 00:35:26.480
Father is love.

661
00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:29.599
That's what it looks like. And I know sometimes you know,

662
00:35:29.679 --> 00:35:30.079
for some.

663
00:35:30.039 --> 00:35:32.519
Guys, especially big guys, and you know, you start talking

664
00:35:32.519 --> 00:35:35.679
about you know, love and it might be a little squishy,

665
00:35:35.960 --> 00:35:38.960
but the fact of the matter is is that's what works.

666
00:35:39.320 --> 00:35:45.400
Yeah, it does, It totally does. And uh, the opportunity

667
00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:48.840
to do that kind of affirmation in a manly way, yes,

668
00:35:49.360 --> 00:35:51.679
is just as high and you can you can do

669
00:35:51.719 --> 00:35:54.280
it by saying, hey, the way you just handle that

670
00:35:54.320 --> 00:35:59.440
situation fist bump, Yeah, that was amazing. That's that's manly.

671
00:35:59.480 --> 00:36:02.519
That's not all. But that speaks man language, you know,

672
00:36:03.039 --> 00:36:06.679
or hey, I saw you apologize and clear up that

673
00:36:06.719 --> 00:36:10.159
issue with him. You're a stud. Thank you, way to go.

674
00:36:10.199 --> 00:36:13.400
That made this company better. Way to go that that

675
00:36:13.440 --> 00:36:15.719
type of thing can be done in a man language.

676
00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:19.079
And you say, you know what, you taught me something

677
00:36:19.559 --> 00:36:20.280
by doing that.

678
00:36:21.159 --> 00:36:24.719
Oh that's even better. I watched you and I thought

679
00:36:25.440 --> 00:36:28.400
that is impressive. I'm going to learn that, So thank

680
00:36:28.440 --> 00:36:30.800
you for teaching me something. Way to go. So those

681
00:36:30.840 --> 00:36:33.559
type of encouragements you calibrate him to the person. You

682
00:36:33.639 --> 00:36:39.719
are right. Introverts should be praised in person. Extroverts, Oh,

683
00:36:39.800 --> 00:36:42.440
they need an audience podcasted baby, you know, wait till

684
00:36:42.639 --> 00:36:45.039
it's a big team meeting. Make a big deal, you know,

685
00:36:46.239 --> 00:36:51.000
So calibrate your encouragement and praise and specific thanks. And

686
00:36:51.119 --> 00:36:53.599
it is important to make it specific. If it's just flattery,

687
00:36:53.880 --> 00:36:56.960
it doesn't inject peace and joy into the brain the

688
00:36:57.000 --> 00:36:59.840
way the brain scientists have proven that this type of

689
00:37:00.159 --> 00:37:03.719
compliment and encouragement actually fires the neurons in the brain

690
00:37:03.760 --> 00:37:05.800
in a way to bring you joy because you're the

691
00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:08.400
one praising them and that feels good and again gives

692
00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:11.920
them joy at peace. So how about we make a

693
00:37:11.960 --> 00:37:15.400
goal today and then every day to look for the

694
00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:18.800
positive and people right and to call it out and

695
00:37:18.840 --> 00:37:20.639
praise it exactly.

696
00:37:21.480 --> 00:37:23.440
Yeah, we have about forty seconds left, and you touched

697
00:37:23.440 --> 00:37:24.960
on something I've always been interested in.

698
00:37:25.079 --> 00:37:28.480
You know this about introverts and extroverts.

699
00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:31.480
Did you give them any kind of training on how

700
00:37:31.559 --> 00:37:35.719
to define the difference between an extrovert and an introvert.

701
00:37:36.519 --> 00:37:39.920
Extroverts like to recharge with people. They don't need to

702
00:37:39.960 --> 00:37:44.239
be pulling away. Introverts need to recharge alone. They can

703
00:37:44.280 --> 00:37:46.719
be good upfront, they can talk and be social, but

704
00:37:46.760 --> 00:37:49.679
they wear down a little bit. They need to pull away, right.

705
00:37:50.119 --> 00:37:53.440
And it's also important for you to understand the difference

706
00:37:53.480 --> 00:37:57.039
because if you approach an introvert with extrovert language.

707
00:37:57.199 --> 00:37:59.559
It's not going to connect, you know, to your point.

708
00:37:59.599 --> 00:38:02.400
That's ye, So to wrap up, to wrap up, we're

709
00:38:02.440 --> 00:38:06.119
just saying, study the people you live with, love and

710
00:38:06.159 --> 00:38:10.400
work with, and deliver love and affirmation and thanks and

711
00:38:10.480 --> 00:38:13.760
praise and encouragement in their language, and much more often

712
00:38:13.800 --> 00:38:14.719
than we typically do.

713
00:38:15.039 --> 00:38:17.480
Amas Jeff damp the website, they need to go to.

714
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USA HBCU Engagement Director. Looking rather engaging, I might add, Andre,

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how are we doing.

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I'm doing well. I woke up and I thought to myself,

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you know, I really like my drink martiniz shaken in

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that start.

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I'm really having a good day.

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My wife and I were expecting number five, so we

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got behind congratulations.

800
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Oh wow, okay, when's number five coming March? Oh in Mark, good,

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that's that's my birthday month.

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Yep, mine too. I'm on to fifteen.

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I'm on the sixteenth, my friend.

804
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Wow, okay, man, how cool. Listen. I knew I liked you, Bill,

805
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but now I.

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Like right right around there, I'm telling you, well, that's awesome. Well,

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congratulations to you and the missus, and we look forward

808
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to hearing more great news. And we got we got

809
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five of the kids running around having fun, and so

810
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we got to make sure we save this country for them,

811
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right exactly.

812
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And it's it's so important. But there's a lot of

813
00:43:36.199 --> 00:43:40.880
good news out there. And I'll start with the Dairien gap. Yes,

814
00:43:41.400 --> 00:43:46.480
the lowest numbers since COVID. We're seeing that a lot

815
00:43:46.480 --> 00:43:49.840
of people aren't going taking this treacherous route. Now, before

816
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I get into the numbers, I really like to make

817
00:43:52.280 --> 00:43:54.960
sure that your audience know what the Darien gap is.

818
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It is a sixty miles rowless trek through the jungle

819
00:44:00.199 --> 00:44:05.119
that has crocodiles, snakes, and there are gangs out there.

820
00:44:05.639 --> 00:44:11.360
And what is happening now because of Trump's enforcement is

821
00:44:11.679 --> 00:44:15.599
these gangs that used to smuggle people to the United

822
00:44:15.679 --> 00:44:18.559
States are now trying to figure out a new strategy

823
00:44:18.679 --> 00:44:22.480
because the enforcement is working. And we saw that this

824
00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:26.519
year in February that the numbers coming across the Dairy

825
00:44:26.559 --> 00:44:30.199
and Gap had dropped to four hundred and eight wow.

826
00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:33.800
And at the max in twenty twenty three, we saw

827
00:44:33.960 --> 00:44:36.320
numbers of eighty two.

828
00:44:36.320 --> 00:44:37.679
Thousand, wow.

829
00:44:37.800 --> 00:44:40.159
From eighty two thousand to four hundred and eight. And

830
00:44:40.199 --> 00:44:42.119
of course, in the midst of all that, like you said,

831
00:44:42.199 --> 00:44:46.480
with all kinds of human abuses and rapes and pillaging

832
00:44:46.559 --> 00:44:51.480
and human trafficking that was taking place there, people would

833
00:44:51.559 --> 00:44:54.360
routinely as they would travel the Dairy and Gap, would

834
00:44:54.920 --> 00:44:57.280
you know, would trip over bodies that would be off

835
00:44:57.280 --> 00:44:59.719
to the side, right, I mean, there was that bad?

836
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:00.679
Was that bad?

837
00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:06.360
And I went on a six week study abroad in

838
00:45:06.400 --> 00:45:10.119
Brazil and they took us through this trek through a mountain.

839
00:45:10.280 --> 00:45:11.639
Now it was a.

840
00:45:11.679 --> 00:45:14.000
Roadless path, but it was a path that we had

841
00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:16.239
a guy. So they had me go ahead of this

842
00:45:16.400 --> 00:45:19.880
path with a machete. And I'm talking about.

843
00:45:19.719 --> 00:45:21.800
They put you, they put you in the lead, They

844
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put me in the lead. Stick yeah, with the MACHETI yeah.

845
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Vegetation. Now, I can't imagine with the temperatures, with the snakes,

846
00:45:34.679 --> 00:45:40.320
with crocodiles, how people make this dangerous trek it is,

847
00:45:40.480 --> 00:45:41.599
it is ridiculous.

848
00:45:42.039 --> 00:45:44.519
Yeah, but if you want to get to America so badly,

849
00:45:44.960 --> 00:45:49.800
you're willing to deal with being raped, possibly even murdered,

850
00:45:50.519 --> 00:45:53.400
because you're going after the Golden Ring on the other

851
00:45:53.440 --> 00:45:55.880
side of the border exactly.

852
00:45:56.119 --> 00:45:59.320
And and this is this is my my, my warning

853
00:45:59.360 --> 00:46:01.639
the people that will do that, because sometimes if you

854
00:46:01.760 --> 00:46:04.840
start something the wrong way, it will end up badly.

855
00:46:05.440 --> 00:46:08.880
And them getting to the United States is not the

856
00:46:08.880 --> 00:46:14.199
finish line, because they're still at the at the beckoning.

857
00:46:13.840 --> 00:46:16.880
Call of the cartels exactly.

858
00:46:16.480 --> 00:46:19.800
Smugglers that bring him them here, and it takes them

859
00:46:19.800 --> 00:46:23.199
a while to get out of that type of slavery

860
00:46:23.239 --> 00:46:26.159
that they're in, if they're able to get out of

861
00:46:26.199 --> 00:46:29.000
it at all. So I would recommend that people not

862
00:46:29.119 --> 00:46:32.760
make the trip, especially now, since it's not guaranteed that

863
00:46:32.760 --> 00:46:34.760
they're going to get asylum like it was in the

864
00:46:34.760 --> 00:46:36.320
previous administration.

865
00:46:36.239 --> 00:46:38.480
Andre, Do we have any idea, I mean, because I'm

866
00:46:38.480 --> 00:46:40.559
glad you brought that about the cartels, because I seem

867
00:46:40.639 --> 00:46:43.480
to be one of the few that constantly brings that

868
00:46:43.679 --> 00:46:47.599
back into the discussion, because people forget that they're beholden

869
00:46:47.639 --> 00:46:50.400
to the cartels. Do we have a number of these,

870
00:46:50.679 --> 00:46:53.280
you know, migrants who have come into the country during

871
00:46:53.440 --> 00:46:58.440
the during the Biden invasion? How many of those are

872
00:46:58.559 --> 00:47:02.159
behold into the cartels? Because I've been using a number

873
00:47:02.159 --> 00:47:04.320
and it's probably as good as any number I've just said,

874
00:47:04.320 --> 00:47:05.679
at least ninety five percent.

875
00:47:06.320 --> 00:47:07.920
Do you have anything that's qualified.

876
00:47:08.800 --> 00:47:12.639
No, I haven't heard of any specific numbers. A lot

877
00:47:12.639 --> 00:47:15.519
of it is speculation, and they have to go through

878
00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:18.400
like personal interviews with people, and the people have to

879
00:47:18.440 --> 00:47:22.199
be have enough trust that they're going to be protected

880
00:47:22.239 --> 00:47:25.199
after they've given up that information, and a lot of

881
00:47:25.199 --> 00:47:28.199
people will not give up that information, so we'll never

882
00:47:28.320 --> 00:47:32.360
know the true numbers for a while. So it's a

883
00:47:32.440 --> 00:47:33.880
lot of those numbers are speculative.

884
00:47:34.079 --> 00:47:36.159
Well, you got to know the cartels, I mean, just

885
00:47:36.199 --> 00:47:40.079
in human trafficking alone last year they generated over thirteen

886
00:47:40.320 --> 00:47:44.679
billion dollars in revenue. Okay, so you don't do that

887
00:47:44.960 --> 00:47:46.320
on a couple of dozen people.

888
00:47:46.639 --> 00:47:52.199
No, No, they are controlling that territory, and there are

889
00:47:52.320 --> 00:47:56.760
multiple cartels that are fighting over territory. So it makes

890
00:47:56.760 --> 00:48:02.679
it a very lucrative business for the cartels. The people

891
00:48:02.719 --> 00:48:07.559
that are risking their lives to come through that process,

892
00:48:08.639 --> 00:48:11.480
their end goal is to get to the United States

893
00:48:11.559 --> 00:48:15.880
and live the American dream. But we're finding that in

894
00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:19.119
them doing that that is having negative effects on the

895
00:48:19.360 --> 00:48:25.679
American native born population. So what needs to happen is

896
00:48:26.320 --> 00:48:31.199
even with Trump's great enforcement, which we're seeing, he's he's

897
00:48:31.239 --> 00:48:35.559
supported one hundred and fifty thousand people, over one hundred

898
00:48:35.599 --> 00:48:38.519
and fifty thousand people in six months. If we stayed

899
00:48:38.519 --> 00:48:41.760
at that pace, we'd be at around like one point

900
00:48:41.800 --> 00:48:45.760
two million by the time we ended his administration. And

901
00:48:45.840 --> 00:48:51.599
there's a projected fifteen million people in the United States illegally, so.

902
00:48:51.519 --> 00:48:52.519
That would not be enough.

903
00:48:52.800 --> 00:48:56.320
So we have to put policies in place like HR

904
00:48:56.440 --> 00:49:01.519
two to ensure that we add some tea to the

905
00:49:01.559 --> 00:49:06.599
great things that our president is doing with the executive orders.

906
00:49:06.800 --> 00:49:10.880
Well, we also have to take the incentives away as well.

907
00:49:11.000 --> 00:49:15.920
You've got these sanctuary states that continue to promote the

908
00:49:16.000 --> 00:49:19.440
illegal migration and people staying here in the country. So

909
00:49:19.880 --> 00:49:25.039
we're we're at you know, opposing forces here. You know,

910
00:49:25.119 --> 00:49:27.599
for example, in California, I don't know if you know

911
00:49:27.679 --> 00:49:30.800
about this new bill that the state of California has

912
00:49:30.840 --> 00:49:35.599
taken up as AB four ninety five, now ninety five

913
00:49:35.719 --> 00:49:37.639
is about as pernicious as you can get.

914
00:49:38.039 --> 00:49:39.239
And what it does.

915
00:49:39.840 --> 00:49:45.360
Is it it basically turns over the sovereign sovereigntry and

916
00:49:45.400 --> 00:49:51.119
controlling your children to anybody, to anybody. They can go

917
00:49:51.239 --> 00:49:55.760
to school and pick up your child and they don't

918
00:49:55.760 --> 00:49:58.159
even have to be a relative. They can just have

919
00:49:58.239 --> 00:50:01.840
documentation to say, hey, I'm authorized to do this, and

920
00:50:01.960 --> 00:50:07.480
the school releases that child to that person. Okay, I

921
00:50:07.519 --> 00:50:10.320
mean this is crazy. I mean we already have four

922
00:50:10.400 --> 00:50:12.960
hundred and fifty thousand. That number has been adjusted by

923
00:50:13.000 --> 00:50:15.639
one hundred and fifty thousand, four hundred and fifty thousand

924
00:50:15.679 --> 00:50:18.480
missing children in the country, thank you very much, Joe Biden.

925
00:50:18.880 --> 00:50:23.239
So to me, this is going to exacerbate that number.

926
00:50:23.559 --> 00:50:27.519
And the motivation for this bill is these well meaning

927
00:50:27.760 --> 00:50:38.679
Democrats and and pro illegal immigration legislators. What they're what

928
00:50:38.719 --> 00:50:43.760
they're doing is they're incentivizing all the wrong behavior there.

929
00:50:44.119 --> 00:50:45.519
You know, everything that we're trying to do in a

930
00:50:45.559 --> 00:50:48.920
positive manner, then they're undermining it with things like this

931
00:50:49.000 --> 00:50:51.840
because they're saying, oh, we need to protect our kids.

932
00:50:51.880 --> 00:50:54.920
Because what happens if a parent, you know, is taking

933
00:50:54.960 --> 00:50:57.559
off the street and they're thrown into a van, and

934
00:50:57.559 --> 00:51:00.079
all of a sudden, the children are left childless and

935
00:51:00.239 --> 00:51:02.559
they're there at school by themselves, and then all of

936
00:51:02.599 --> 00:51:05.400
a sudden, you're going to expect the school to administrate this.

937
00:51:07.480 --> 00:51:12.960
That is ridiculous. And to go back to the first

938
00:51:13.000 --> 00:51:16.599
part of your question about the sanctuary cities, and I'm

939
00:51:16.599 --> 00:51:19.639
going to address that second part as well. That's going

940
00:51:19.719 --> 00:51:22.920
to have to go to the Supreme Court. And it

941
00:51:22.960 --> 00:51:29.400
would have gone towards the end of Trump's first administration,

942
00:51:29.639 --> 00:51:34.199
but the Biden administration waived it. So we're in a

943
00:51:34.239 --> 00:51:37.920
situation now where I've seen a lot of people at

944
00:51:37.920 --> 00:51:42.840
the local level try to overturn some of these welcome

945
00:51:42.880 --> 00:51:46.960
in city ordinances and sanctuary city policies. But where does

946
00:51:47.000 --> 00:51:49.760
it get killed. It gets killed and the rules committee.

947
00:51:49.840 --> 00:51:52.800
It gets killed by these politicians that are playing games

948
00:51:52.800 --> 00:51:55.559
long enough for them to get enough votes to be

949
00:51:55.599 --> 00:52:01.119
able to overturn anything that the citizens at the local

950
00:52:01.159 --> 00:52:06.199
and state level can do to at least vote on it.

951
00:52:06.280 --> 00:52:08.880
They wouldn't even allow them to vote on it. So

952
00:52:10.320 --> 00:52:13.000
it has to go to the Supreme Court, and I'm

953
00:52:13.159 --> 00:52:15.679
hoping that that gets expedited so we can get the

954
00:52:15.760 --> 00:52:19.360
answer or you know how we're going to deal with this.

955
00:52:19.599 --> 00:52:22.559
At between this battle between the federal and the state

956
00:52:23.079 --> 00:52:27.440
and as far as the children, the Trump administration came

957
00:52:27.440 --> 00:52:34.880
into a mess. They were receiving thousands of messages to

958
00:52:35.880 --> 00:52:41.480
Homeland Security from people that were being molested, people that

959
00:52:41.719 --> 00:52:47.320
were missing, and the Trump administration responded to some of

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00:52:47.320 --> 00:52:50.559
those messages. There were like sixty six thousand messages left right,

961
00:52:50.960 --> 00:52:53.440
and they responded to one and it was a seven

962
00:52:53.760 --> 00:52:57.559
or eight year old boy who said that there were

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people that were coming around at night and they were touched.

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00:53:01.239 --> 00:53:06.119
And the ice responded and they were able to recover

965
00:53:06.679 --> 00:53:09.400
the boy. But could you imagine all the ones that

966
00:53:09.480 --> 00:53:14.800
weren't recovered. This welting towel issue is a huge issue.

967
00:53:14.960 --> 00:53:19.360
That Trump administration has located thirteen thousand of them. But

968
00:53:19.400 --> 00:53:22.000
it's just a it is just a tink in the armor.

969
00:53:22.039 --> 00:53:24.440
It's just a drop in the bucket exactly.

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00:53:24.679 --> 00:53:24.840
Well.

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And the thing is is that we heard during the

972
00:53:26.760 --> 00:53:29.760
Biden years people were calling this number.

973
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And nobody was answering it.

974
00:53:31.239 --> 00:53:31.800
That's right.

975
00:53:33.199 --> 00:53:35.599
Now, at least you have an administration that picks up

976
00:53:35.639 --> 00:53:38.719
the phone, yes, and it's trying to do something about it.

977
00:53:38.920 --> 00:53:41.920
In the midst of you know, the border patrol and

978
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ICE agents getting docked and look what's happening. I mean,

979
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the number of attacks on ICE agents has gone to

980
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put over eight hundred and fifty per Andre.

981
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That's right, that's right, And I'm glad that they have

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more money to call in more recruits so that they

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can strengthen themselves because they need more numbers. They need

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more support, and we don't want these guys getting overworked

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and who are putting their lives on the line right

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exactly and getting attacked every day, so they need they

987
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need more support, they need more numbers.

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Well, Andre Barnes, Numbers USA, HBCU Engagement Director, thank you

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Bill Martinez here along with the one and only Scott

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Palm is God.

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How you doing, Buddy good well, Thank you Bill Well.

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Scott.

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Of course.

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He's an author, among other great things, a member of

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the Committee on this Present Danger.

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China, and a senior fellow Discovery Institute. Scott, I want to.

1025
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Continue to talk about what we have been doing is

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00:56:17.599 --> 00:56:19.559
we've kind of been the theme for the last several weeks,

1027
00:56:20.079 --> 00:56:21.000
liberty and justice.

1028
00:56:21.039 --> 00:56:24.239
But before we get there, I mean, we can.

1029
00:56:24.119 --> 00:56:26.800
Take a look in contrast of what's going on right

1030
00:56:26.840 --> 00:56:30.320
now in the Gaza with Israel. I mean, there seems

1031
00:56:30.360 --> 00:56:34.199
to be some conflict at least if you hear it

1032
00:56:34.199 --> 00:56:39.679
from the media between Benjamin and Yahoo and President Trump.

1033
00:56:40.280 --> 00:56:43.679
I think they both want a solution. But I think

1034
00:56:43.719 --> 00:56:46.599
that what happens here in the West, particularly, we do

1035
00:56:46.719 --> 00:56:53.039
not understand how fixed ideologically the Palestinians are. I happened

1036
00:56:53.079 --> 00:56:56.719
to watch the other night and there was someone interviewing

1037
00:56:57.280 --> 00:57:02.280
Palestinians and asking them about a two state solution, asking

1038
00:57:02.360 --> 00:57:05.639
him about these things on the West that we think

1039
00:57:05.719 --> 00:57:11.280
are practical solutions to the conflict, and it's untenable there

1040
00:57:11.920 --> 00:57:16.880
there's no movement with it whatsoever. I mean, they there's

1041
00:57:16.920 --> 00:57:20.039
no there's no two state solution as far as they're concerned.

1042
00:57:20.480 --> 00:57:23.320
That is correct, you know, and that has been that

1043
00:57:23.400 --> 00:57:26.440
way for so many years. And it just shows the.

1044
00:57:28.199 --> 00:57:28.920
Depth of.

1045
00:57:30.519 --> 00:57:34.000
The breadth and depth of the narratives that just consume

1046
00:57:34.039 --> 00:57:34.679
our culture.

1047
00:57:35.199 --> 00:57:35.400
Right.

1048
00:57:36.199 --> 00:57:39.280
The elites don't understand that when you have a mortal

1049
00:57:39.440 --> 00:57:43.119
enemy that wants to destroy you, you had better destroy

1050
00:57:43.280 --> 00:57:49.719
him first he or he will continue to pursue your

1051
00:57:49.760 --> 00:57:53.239
destruction exactly. I mean, and this is not new. I

1052
00:57:53.239 --> 00:57:55.599
mean this, how many years has this conflict been going on?

1053
00:57:55.679 --> 00:57:55.880
Bill?

1054
00:57:56.000 --> 00:57:58.519
Well, they say thousands of years. They refer to it

1055
00:57:58.519 --> 00:58:01.480
as ancient hatred. You know, you go you read the

1056
00:58:01.480 --> 00:58:04.239
Old Testament and you see this conflict that's always been

1057
00:58:04.280 --> 00:58:07.440
there and uh, you know, and that's just been the

1058
00:58:07.440 --> 00:58:08.079
story of it.

1059
00:58:08.119 --> 00:58:08.639
Do you go there?

1060
00:58:08.679 --> 00:58:11.360
I mean, when I went to visit Israel, uh, the

1061
00:58:11.360 --> 00:58:14.119
only time I've been there, it was it was heartbreaking

1062
00:58:14.280 --> 00:58:18.800
to see how these areas with within the you know,

1063
00:58:18.800 --> 00:58:21.320
how they're all cordoned off with fencing and you know,

1064
00:58:21.360 --> 00:58:24.440
a whole deal and uh, I'm talking to one I

1065
00:58:24.559 --> 00:58:28.199
d F General and I said, well, what's up with this?

1066
00:58:28.280 --> 00:58:31.800
And he goes, well, it's just to protect protect the Jews,

1067
00:58:31.880 --> 00:58:36.199
because if we don't have the fences there, they come

1068
00:58:36.280 --> 00:58:39.199
in and uh, and they're and even as it is,

1069
00:58:39.519 --> 00:58:44.639
they're they're shooting over the fences, uh, into peaceful areas.

1070
00:58:45.119 --> 00:58:46.760
And this is what they put up with on a

1071
00:58:46.840 --> 00:58:50.639
daily basis. Yeah, you can't even imagine.

1072
00:58:50.679 --> 00:58:53.800
And then of course even before uh, even before the

1073
00:58:53.880 --> 00:58:59.679
seventh right, the infamous day they're in Israel, they were

1074
00:58:59.679 --> 00:59:03.760
sending missiles in constantly from the north and south into Israel,

1075
00:59:04.320 --> 00:59:06.639
and so uh and then now it all, it all

1076
00:59:06.679 --> 00:59:07.280
comes to a.

1077
00:59:07.280 --> 00:59:11.960
Head, and uh, here we are. We're back to trying

1078
00:59:11.960 --> 00:59:15.320
to appease people that you can appease. The only lights

1079
00:59:15.440 --> 00:59:16.320
to problem is.

1080
00:59:16.280 --> 00:59:17.559
You've got to get rid of you got to get

1081
00:59:17.639 --> 00:59:18.880
rid of Israel altogether.

1082
00:59:19.360 --> 00:59:23.519
That's right, That is right, That's so true. So you know,

1083
00:59:23.599 --> 00:59:27.239
I'm I'm not in the business of giving advice to

1084
00:59:27.239 --> 00:59:30.920
to solving this and most other international conflicts.

1085
00:59:30.960 --> 00:59:33.599
But I think I.

1086
00:59:33.519 --> 00:59:38.360
Think we have to acknowledge that Israel knows the situation

1087
00:59:39.719 --> 00:59:44.760
better than anybody else. And you know, we can think

1088
00:59:44.800 --> 00:59:48.760
back to ancient times when when the Israelites came into

1089
00:59:48.760 --> 00:59:51.599
the Promised Land. What what what did God tell them

1090
00:59:51.599 --> 00:59:56.599
to do with certain utterly destroying that's right? Now? Why

1091
00:59:56.800 --> 00:59:59.639
why did God give that direction?

1092
01:00:00.519 --> 01:00:02.440
Because he knew the hearts of the people.

1093
01:00:02.920 --> 01:00:06.719
Right he knew that there was a kind of evil,

1094
01:00:07.480 --> 01:00:13.320
demonic evil operating in those cultures that could not be

1095
01:00:14.639 --> 01:00:20.039
removed in any other way except to destroy them. So

1096
01:00:22.840 --> 01:00:27.599
I'm not saying that that this is the solution for

1097
01:00:27.719 --> 01:00:31.079
modern times. I just am acknowledging that in ancient times

1098
01:00:32.400 --> 01:00:36.280
there was a total destruction of the enemy in certain

1099
01:00:36.320 --> 01:00:38.440
locations in this part of the world.

1100
01:00:38.840 --> 01:00:42.320
Right well, And that it's always a problem with Western

1101
01:00:42.360 --> 01:00:46.440
civilization because we have such an enormous amount of compassion

1102
01:00:47.000 --> 01:00:49.480
and we want to and it's hard for us to

1103
01:00:49.559 --> 01:00:50.639
even read those.

1104
01:00:51.159 --> 01:00:54.239
Stories in the old interment and think, why would God?

1105
01:00:54.280 --> 01:00:54.360
Do?

1106
01:00:54.440 --> 01:00:56.880
You know, you asked the question, why would God do that? Well,

1107
01:00:56.920 --> 01:00:58.559
he knew the heart of the people. He knew that

1108
01:00:59.440 --> 01:01:01.719
the evil that resided in them with such that there

1109
01:01:01.760 --> 01:01:06.519
was no there was no remediation, right. And it seems

1110
01:01:06.559 --> 01:01:08.719
that that's where we are right now. I mean, because

1111
01:01:08.719 --> 01:01:11.320
you talk to these you know, you talk to people,

1112
01:01:11.599 --> 01:01:14.599
I mean watching men on the street, interviews with these people,

1113
01:01:15.119 --> 01:01:19.079
and there's no compromise and you go, Okay.

1114
01:01:18.840 --> 01:01:20.199
Well then what do you do?

1115
01:01:20.519 --> 01:01:23.960
And then here Israel because they're trying to protect whatever

1116
01:01:24.159 --> 01:01:25.840
number of hostages.

1117
01:01:25.280 --> 01:01:26.920
May or may not still be alive.

1118
01:01:28.400 --> 01:01:30.800
You know, I just think you got to just let Israel,

1119
01:01:30.880 --> 01:01:34.280
in my humble opinion, support Israel, Let them do what

1120
01:01:34.320 --> 01:01:37.880
they need to do, and go in. Because the thing

1121
01:01:37.960 --> 01:01:40.519
is even Israel before they had a time, remember in

1122
01:01:40.559 --> 01:01:42.960
the Sixth Day War, they had a time to utterly

1123
01:01:43.039 --> 01:01:44.119
destroy and they didn't.

1124
01:01:44.639 --> 01:01:45.559
And look what happened.

1125
01:01:46.760 --> 01:01:51.280
They are here today because they didn't take care of

1126
01:01:51.360 --> 01:01:53.239
business back in the sixties.

1127
01:01:55.280 --> 01:01:56.159
That is true.

1128
01:01:57.360 --> 01:01:59.119
So I'm with you, Bill, I think.

1129
01:01:59.760 --> 01:02:02.840
And it's tough. I mean, I get that, and I'm

1130
01:02:02.920 --> 01:02:06.760
like you. I mean, I just I pray for bib Nanyau.

1131
01:02:06.920 --> 01:02:10.360
For Israel has to make that decision, but it's their decision,

1132
01:02:11.159 --> 01:02:14.800
and America needs to be careful about how they intervene

1133
01:02:14.800 --> 01:02:17.800
there because historically, I don't know if you're aware of this,

1134
01:02:17.880 --> 01:02:20.320
but there's been several books written on this, is that

1135
01:02:20.519 --> 01:02:26.400
every time America interferes with Israel's foreign policy or national security,

1136
01:02:27.000 --> 01:02:29.719
we end up with a natural disaster.

1137
01:02:30.960 --> 01:02:33.679
I didn't know that. Oh yeah, I mean, and it's uncanny.

1138
01:02:33.760 --> 01:02:37.440
I mean, there's probably a couple of dozen events where

1139
01:02:37.440 --> 01:02:41.760
that's taking place, probably accounting for well into the billions,

1140
01:02:41.840 --> 01:02:46.599
almost a trillion dollars worth of damage. So America needs

1141
01:02:46.639 --> 01:02:52.280
to be careful how we deal with that, because you know,

1142
01:02:52.480 --> 01:02:56.320
Israel is God's chosen land. This is God's land. It's

1143
01:02:56.320 --> 01:03:01.519
not the Palestinian's land. And Israel is there because God

1144
01:03:01.679 --> 01:03:06.920
has has sanctified them for that piece of land. That's right,

1145
01:03:07.800 --> 01:03:10.559
and we got to be real careful how that's because

1146
01:03:10.760 --> 01:03:13.599
I don't know any other I'm not aware of any

1147
01:03:13.679 --> 01:03:16.719
other land other than maybe there might be some Edomites

1148
01:03:16.760 --> 01:03:20.320
and some lands that were dedicated to the other Arab nations.

1149
01:03:20.760 --> 01:03:23.519
But God is really clear that.

1150
01:03:23.400 --> 01:03:29.119
This is you know, this is for Israel. I believe so, and.

1151
01:03:29.440 --> 01:03:36.760
I think that you know, however, you start the historic record,

1152
01:03:36.760 --> 01:03:40.360
if you're a modernist, you'd say you'd start it when Israel.

1153
01:03:41.000 --> 01:03:43.920
When the land was set aside, I think was right

1154
01:03:43.960 --> 01:03:45.039
after World War One.

1155
01:03:45.360 --> 01:03:48.119
I forget the belfour, Yeah, the belfour, but then but

1156
01:03:48.159 --> 01:03:51.079
then it didn't take place until nineteen forty eight, right,

1157
01:03:51.119 --> 01:03:54.960
but the seats were there, and right belfour, and then

1158
01:03:55.000 --> 01:04:00.400
after World War Two it was formalized and Jews were

1159
01:04:00.480 --> 01:04:03.599
they were, there was always some settling going on ahead

1160
01:04:03.599 --> 01:04:06.280
of it. But then the doors were opened for the

1161
01:04:06.400 --> 01:04:08.239
establishment of the Israeli state.

1162
01:04:09.239 --> 01:04:13.440
And and and look what the Israelis have done with

1163
01:04:13.519 --> 01:04:17.679
what was a desert exactly totally unproductive area. And now

1164
01:04:17.719 --> 01:04:23.119
everybody wants that land, right they want the natural gas

1165
01:04:23.159 --> 01:04:23.840
off the shore.

1166
01:04:24.159 --> 01:04:26.639
Oh they want that too, billions of dollars right out.

1167
01:04:27.000 --> 01:04:27.239
Yes.

1168
01:04:27.800 --> 01:04:31.079
But but all the innovation that Israel has done, I

1169
01:04:31.079 --> 01:04:34.119
mean their irrigation science in that that they've done in

1170
01:04:34.199 --> 01:04:37.719
order to turn that desert into fertile land, which is

1171
01:04:38.440 --> 01:04:42.039
clearly it's it's the hand of God. Scott I got

1172
01:04:42.039 --> 01:04:43.480
to tell you that. Well, look at we're gonna take

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a quick break.

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Stay with us.

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We've got more from Scott. And you know right here,

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I'm Bill Martinezy Scott Powell, the author and member of

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the Committee on Present Danger China and a Senior Fellow

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at the Discovery Institute. Well, I guess the last thing

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I want to say about, guys is it's really disappointing.

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You know, here we Americans sent sixty million dollars in

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food Scott, and again this speaks of the evil that

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resides there. People are dying from starvation. We send millions

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of dollars of food there. Donald Trump thinks he can

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control it, but you got Hamas. Hamas has control. They

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control the ground, not Israel, not Donald Trump, the United Nations. Uh,

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it's Hamas. That food is captured by Hamas. It's to

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feed their soldiers. And then they use that food is

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leveraged to sell to the people who are starving, whatever

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money they got left and for whatever benefit and anything

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01:10:21.079 --> 01:10:25.439
else that serves their you know, their specific interest.

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Uh.

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And and we're and you know we're participating in that.

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I know it's you know, we're such we we are

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compassionate people, we really are. And and sometimes our compassionate

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orientation is you is abused by our enemies. It often

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is often than not is right right exactly?

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And so maybe you can, you know, you can go

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to your death and say, well I did the right thing.

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Well, the right thing is you define it.

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But sometimes, as we know in the words of those

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that promote tough love, you've got to be able to

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call things for what they are and and do this

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and do the smart thing.

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And my prayer is.

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Is that you know, Donald Trump, this administration, the Israelis,

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the IDF, would you know, do the right thing whatever

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God's telling them to do. And I hope they're listening

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to God, you know, to resolve this issue, because you know,

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this is beyond our pay grades.

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God, I don't know, you know, I don't know on handle.

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I mean, it just kills me to watch these people

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who are suffering needlessly. Food is there and they'll say,

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the food's you know, thirty feet away and they can't

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get to it because Amas is guarding it and keeping

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them from the food, and they're starving.

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Scott, I know it's and of course Hamas is using

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it as as as you know, it's a weapon, and so.

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Well, well they're not going to give up, you know,

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and they know and they're not going to give up

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the hostages because the hostages is what's keeping them alive

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right now. And that's that's the carot. Well, look at

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I want to talk and transition into what we have

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been talking about, you know, justice and liberty that you've

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been writing on.

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And this is a.

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You know, as you say, these are intertwined concepts, you know,

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with justice serving as both the foundation and the boundaries

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for liberty, not only in our country. But for anybody

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who is pursuing liberty, any nation that wants to pursue liberty,

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then you better make sure that you know, justice is

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one of those foundation foundational pillars, right, yes.

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Yeah, So so I did a little research in the

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Federalist papers and I found that James Madison, who was

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really largely the I won't say he was the author

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of the Constitution, but he from the beginning put the

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Constitutional Convention together. He was the major contributor. You know,

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George Washington was the president overseeing it all, but Madison

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had a very active role in making sure that the Constitution,

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you know, with three branches of government, was formalized and

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established and you know, and codified. And that was done

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in a matter of a little over four months, which

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is remarkable. But you know, God's hand was on all

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of them in the end. But Madison was a remarkable man.

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He was also the fourth President of the United States.

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And what he said about justice, I was very moved.

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He said that justice is the end of government. It

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is the end of civil society. So he goes beyond government.

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He says, it's the end of civil society. It's the

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most important thing. Justice and he said it has ever

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been and even still to be pursued until it be attained,

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or until liberty be lost in principle. In other words,

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he put it, he's really speaking to us today in

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modern times. He's and he's saying that if you don't

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succeed in re establishing liberty, you may lose your freedom.

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Right.

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And we have already lost a great deal of freedom

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because of of JA, because unjust people have governed us exactly,

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01:14:34.920 --> 01:14:39.840
really unjust people, people that are into their own. Uh,

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01:14:40.159 --> 01:14:43.479
they have an agenda which is not in step with

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01:14:43.560 --> 01:14:48.520
the Constitution and not in step with the people, right, and.

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And they don't they don't have the consent of the government.

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No, no, we can the people. You know, we could,

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01:14:53.920 --> 01:14:57.319
you know. We go back to Obama and Hillary Flinton.

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She was the Secretary of State under Obama. Brennan was

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his CIA director, James Clapper was the Director of National Intelligence.

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01:15:06.479 --> 01:15:13.000
Susan Rice was very involved, and lo and behold. Obama

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01:15:13.439 --> 01:15:23.000
conducts a formal meeting on January fifth, of twenty twenty one. Oh, no,

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01:15:23.239 --> 01:15:29.000
of I'm four years ago. Of twenty twenty seventeen, Donald

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01:15:29.000 --> 01:15:33.119
Trump had been elected as the forty fifth president and

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01:15:33.399 --> 01:15:37.359
they were plotting on January fifth, how they could subvert

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01:15:38.399 --> 01:15:41.920
Donald Trump, which is to say, how they could It

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01:15:42.119 --> 01:15:45.960
was how they could have a coup, a coup against

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01:15:45.960 --> 01:15:49.279
the duly elected president of the United States. There is

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01:15:49.359 --> 01:15:53.279
no greater treason than that, even.

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01:15:53.199 --> 01:15:57.520
Though we're not officially at war, which somehow they decide.

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01:15:57.560 --> 01:15:59.680
They say, well, you can't call it treason because we

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01:15:59.680 --> 01:16:02.000
weren't at war, but I don't know what else to

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01:16:02.039 --> 01:16:02.439
call it.

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Well, you know, I suggested in an article I wrote

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01:16:06.000 --> 01:16:09.399
a few weeks ago that because treason does require the

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01:16:10.640 --> 01:16:16.399
war as being a backdrop to it, a condition for it. Well,

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01:16:16.720 --> 01:16:21.159
there's one step down called seditious conspiracy, which is codified

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01:16:21.199 --> 01:16:23.800
in law. I forget what the number is, but it

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01:16:23.920 --> 01:16:29.319
is codified. And these people are all guilty of seditious

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01:16:29.359 --> 01:16:34.319
conspiracy without without a doubt, without a problem. So I

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01:16:34.760 --> 01:16:39.119
just pray that there's enough courage to pursue this, because

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01:16:39.399 --> 01:16:44.319
justice in this case means that people should be tried, prosecuted,

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01:16:44.439 --> 01:16:48.279
and tried could be a you know, a jury trial,

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and that the law that they face the consequences that

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you know, that they be prosecuted to the full ext

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01:17:00.119 --> 01:17:02.560
end of the law, and if if that leads to

1377
01:17:03.279 --> 01:17:07.840
a penalty of imprisonment, uh, let the chips fall. That

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01:17:07.920 --> 01:17:10.479
would actually be one of the best things to happen

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01:17:10.520 --> 01:17:14.399
to our country. Right, of all the things you could

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01:17:14.399 --> 01:17:17.960
ask for that would culturally change us, really move the

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needle in a significant way, I believe that would be

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01:17:21.640 --> 01:17:24.239
probably the greatest thing because what it what it would

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01:17:24.319 --> 01:17:28.159
do is it sends a very clear message to would

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01:17:28.159 --> 01:17:32.319
be followers. And of course it might be a small

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01:17:32.359 --> 01:17:35.640
group of people that I've just named that would that

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01:17:35.640 --> 01:17:39.640
that would be held accountable by law and penalized, But

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01:17:39.680 --> 01:17:42.600
it sends a huge message to everyone else in the

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01:17:42.600 --> 01:17:48.000
deep state that there, go there, that's their go I

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01:17:48.079 --> 01:17:52.600
for undermining the Constitution of America. But they're all involved

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01:17:52.600 --> 01:17:54.680
in this. I mean, you could argue that Bill Gates

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01:17:54.720 --> 01:17:56.960
and so many others are really well the.

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01:17:57.239 --> 01:18:02.079
Main the mainstream media, the social media entertainment. I mean,

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01:18:02.119 --> 01:18:04.239
you go down the whole list. But you know, because

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01:18:04.239 --> 01:18:06.960
it's all been so infected, this is you know, the

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01:18:07.000 --> 01:18:10.239
Bible calls calls it leven. It's that little eleven that

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01:18:10.319 --> 01:18:13.239
comes in and spoils the whole batch. Because like you said,

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01:18:13.479 --> 01:18:17.119
we're not talking millions of people involved here. This is

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01:18:17.199 --> 01:18:21.800
a small cabal of the administrative state operating in the shadows.

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01:18:21.800 --> 01:18:24.720
And guess what what we're talking about is one of

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probably a dozen, maybe two dozen injustices that are there

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01:18:30.520 --> 01:18:35.760
that are all contributing to this conditioning, this mind conditioning

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01:18:35.800 --> 01:18:40.000
of young people Scott, who are saying, what's this constitutional

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01:18:40.039 --> 01:18:44.960
republic about? You know, America is it's a mess. And

1404
01:18:45.039 --> 01:18:48.239
you get all these you know, professors and universities who

1405
01:18:48.279 --> 01:18:50.960
can point to all these things and say, oh, you

1406
01:18:51.079 --> 01:18:53.000
think you're all that in a bag of chips. Here,

1407
01:18:53.039 --> 01:18:55.520
you guys are lying three ways to Sunday and look

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01:18:55.520 --> 01:18:59.279
at all this injustice that's taking place right right.

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01:18:59.319 --> 01:19:04.319
I mean they almost they create the conditions of injustice,

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01:19:04.359 --> 01:19:06.439
you know, a breakdown of law and order and such.

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01:19:06.960 --> 01:19:09.279
And then they and then they turn around and point

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01:19:09.319 --> 01:19:13.479
to that America. You know, the American system is not

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01:19:13.600 --> 01:19:16.399
working and we need to you know, we need to

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01:19:16.439 --> 01:19:20.680
fundamentally change it, exactly, fundamental changes that they all share.

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01:19:21.079 --> 01:19:24.199
What their vision really is. It is leadership by a

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01:19:24.319 --> 01:19:29.640
very elite group of people. There's clearly an international component,

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01:19:30.000 --> 01:19:32.359
a globalist component, right exactly.

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And we've known that to become.

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I've known it for the longest time.

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I've got to go to quick break.

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We've got more from Scott Powell after this, stay with us,

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01:19:41.079 --> 01:19:43.359
and we're back. He's the author, member of the Committee

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01:19:43.399 --> 01:19:46.399
on Present Danger China, the senior Fellow at the Discovery Institute.

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01:19:46.560 --> 01:19:49.359
Scott Powell continues with us. Scott, as you were saying

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01:19:49.399 --> 01:19:52.800
before the break, what's been happening in America has been

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01:19:52.840 --> 01:19:56.520
going on for decades, and justice has been swept under

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01:19:56.560 --> 01:19:59.600
the rug, so to speak, and something has got to give.

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01:20:00.039 --> 01:20:02.000
And I think, you know, in so many ways, I

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01:20:02.119 --> 01:20:05.079
keep telling people you can be grateful for Donald Trump

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01:20:05.279 --> 01:20:09.920
for this one thing. His administration and his presence has

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01:20:09.960 --> 01:20:14.880
become apocalyptic inasmuch as that it's revealing all these injustices

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01:20:14.960 --> 01:20:15.560
that are here.

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01:20:15.840 --> 01:20:18.960
So if we we've known it, but he is, you know,

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01:20:19.199 --> 01:20:24.319
he is has the courage to unclassify all this information,

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01:20:24.439 --> 01:20:27.680
to thoroughly go through it. And what do we find

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01:20:27.800 --> 01:20:32.680
but overwhelming evidence for a process, you know, for a

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prosecution of these people that engaged in seditious conspiracy against

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the United States. As I said, there's no greater crime

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than that, There's no greater crime. It's because it's the

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01:20:42.880 --> 01:20:46.600
crime against the whole country. It's a crime against all

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01:20:46.680 --> 01:20:49.720
the people. You know, all all the people in America

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01:20:49.760 --> 01:20:55.119
are pretty comfortable with the constitutional Republic, that right, you

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01:20:55.159 --> 01:20:59.000
know that their grandparents and great grandparents lived under. And

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01:20:59.079 --> 01:21:02.439
the reason that they're satisfied with is not that it's

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01:21:02.439 --> 01:21:07.039
a perfect system, but it's probably the closest to a

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perfect political system that you could come up with, because

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you're dealing with flawed people. So there is people are

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not angels. So one of the chief contributions to Founders

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01:21:18.119 --> 01:21:22.720
made was not just empowering the individuals individual liberty through

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the Bill of Rights and such, but it was a

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recognition of the depravity of man and that when you give,

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when government gets power, it will inevitably abuse it. So

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01:21:34.640 --> 01:21:38.000
they created a system of checks and balances, and then

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01:21:38.039 --> 01:21:40.680
they created a federalist system. So there's checks and balances

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01:21:40.720 --> 01:21:43.800
being federal government and state government. And then they overlay

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01:21:43.880 --> 01:21:47.520
it all with frequent elections to throw the corrupt people

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01:21:47.560 --> 01:21:52.039
out of office every two years in the case of legislators. Otherwords,

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01:21:52.039 --> 01:21:54.399
they get only two years and then they're thrown out.

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01:21:54.920 --> 01:21:58.640
But the problem is is that we're all so busy

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01:22:00.399 --> 01:22:04.520
that we we don't follow that people don't follow politics

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01:22:04.520 --> 01:22:06.520
at us, So they really don't. We really have an

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01:22:06.640 --> 01:22:10.079
uninformed electorate to some extent, an apathetic election.

1463
01:22:10.640 --> 01:22:11.239
Well, and the deal.

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01:22:11.319 --> 01:22:13.720
The other thing, too, Scott, is we've given ourselves a

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01:22:13.760 --> 01:22:17.239
false security of the constitution. We believe in the constitution,

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01:22:17.439 --> 01:22:21.800
and we believe, you know that our elected officials are

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going to follow the constitution. And what is obvious is

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01:22:25.199 --> 01:22:28.359
that to your point exactly is they don't, and they

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01:22:28.560 --> 01:22:31.960
lied to us, and the result of their lies, people

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01:22:32.039 --> 01:22:34.600
have died. I mean, look at I mean, just just

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01:22:34.680 --> 01:22:38.720
take the eight years of Obama alone, Scott. Supposedly, as

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01:22:38.760 --> 01:22:41.680
he said, he said he was, his administration was one

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01:22:41.720 --> 01:22:44.199
of the few scandal free administrations ever.

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01:22:44.439 --> 01:22:47.399
It was like, what a bull lace lie that is.

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01:22:47.439 --> 01:22:50.159
And even with half a brain and memory knows that

1476
01:22:50.159 --> 01:22:54.119
that's a fundamental lie. First of all, in the first

1477
01:22:54.199 --> 01:22:56.920
year of his administration, he had fast and furious that

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01:22:57.079 --> 01:23:01.439
was a distribution of firearms to the Mexican cartel. Right,

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01:23:01.479 --> 01:23:03.920
And yes, they thought that's the way they would they

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01:23:03.960 --> 01:23:05.680
would track the cartel.

1481
01:23:06.199 --> 01:23:09.000
Right, But we all know what happened.

1482
01:23:09.319 --> 01:23:12.279
Yes, totally failed and backfired, and it cost the life

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01:23:12.279 --> 01:23:15.079
of a you know, one of our you know, our

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border Uh, well.

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They tracked.

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They tracked as good as my orc has tracked the

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people coming across the border.

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01:23:22.239 --> 01:23:23.960
You know, it's just it's just absurd.

1489
01:23:24.119 --> 01:23:27.039
But there's a pattern within the Democratic Party and people

1490
01:23:27.039 --> 01:23:28.159
who have this mindset.

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01:23:28.399 --> 01:23:32.279
So he he lied. He he also interfered with elections.

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01:23:32.319 --> 01:23:34.159
I mean they talk about you know, last night I

1493
01:23:34.199 --> 01:23:37.479
was hearing them talk about how many elections he he

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01:23:38.039 --> 01:23:42.079
interfered with, But they didn't even mention his interference.

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01:23:41.560 --> 01:23:43.319
With Lois Learner and the Tea parties.

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01:23:44.239 --> 01:23:49.760
Seven eight, maybe in counting, nine election cycles have been

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01:23:49.920 --> 01:23:52.920
influenced because of what he and Lois Lerner did.

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01:23:53.800 --> 01:23:58.479
Absolutely, and she she took the Fifth Amendment. She wouldn't testify,

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01:23:58.920 --> 01:24:02.239
she wouldn't own up to what she did. And he's

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01:24:02.319 --> 01:24:05.479
living nicely. She's living nicely on our She didn't lose

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01:24:05.600 --> 01:24:09.359
she didn't lose her pension. No. So I mean, even

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01:24:09.399 --> 01:24:11.840
if people don't go to jail, if there are some

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01:24:12.000 --> 01:24:17.399
penalties for wrongdoing, it helps. But in the very last

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01:24:17.560 --> 01:24:22.399
year of his administration, you know, we had the but

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01:24:22.600 --> 01:24:28.760
ben Ghazi disaster exactly where we lost four people in Benghazi,

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01:24:28.840 --> 01:24:33.960
Libya because of because of a failure, a fundamental failure

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01:24:35.760 --> 01:24:38.239
to read what was going on, and then a fundamental

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01:24:38.319 --> 01:24:43.079
failure to respond and send military assets to take out

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01:24:43.119 --> 01:24:47.279
the terrorists that had our people pinned down. We would

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01:24:47.279 --> 01:24:50.520
not give them. You know, we had planes within an

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01:24:50.520 --> 01:24:54.239
hour and a half or an hour away in Italy, right,

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01:24:54.520 --> 01:24:56.840
the right kind of aircraft we had, you know, we

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01:24:57.119 --> 01:25:00.159
could have dealt with that situation. We stood down and

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01:25:00.199 --> 01:25:03.439
we let the tragedy happen. If that's not a scandal,

1515
01:25:03.439 --> 01:25:04.439
I don't know what is.

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01:25:04.880 --> 01:25:07.279
Right exactly well, And the deal is is that's only

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01:25:07.319 --> 01:25:14.079
the beginning. Because did Hillary Clinton's home brewed server in

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01:25:14.119 --> 01:25:19.279
a closet in Colorado? Did you know, did the people

1519
01:25:19.319 --> 01:25:23.119
in Libya have access to know that Chris Stevens was

1520
01:25:23.119 --> 01:25:26.560
going to be there? But suddenly all those emails, all

1521
01:25:26.640 --> 01:25:30.159
that evidence is bleached out.

1522
01:25:30.039 --> 01:25:34.880
Right right, is destroyed? That alone? Is she at this

1523
01:25:35.119 --> 01:25:39.560
By this time Hillary was under subpoena when all those

1524
01:25:39.640 --> 01:25:43.560
emails were destroyed exactly. And all those communication devices I

1525
01:25:43.560 --> 01:25:47.600
think there were thirteen of them, mostly blackberries and you

1526
01:25:47.640 --> 01:25:52.479
know phones, but perhaps some iPads. Anyway, they were all

1527
01:25:52.680 --> 01:25:53.880
destroyed by hammer.

1528
01:25:54.159 --> 01:25:57.319
Yeah, they ran into a hammer. It's amazing.

1529
01:25:57.640 --> 01:26:01.840
Yeah, picture Hillary in her compadre. You know, at some workbench,

1530
01:26:02.640 --> 01:26:06.319
banging away with hammers to destroy these devices. Why are

1531
01:26:06.319 --> 01:26:10.039
they destroying them? Yeah, she has destroying them because they

1532
01:26:10.079 --> 01:26:13.479
had evidence on them. Everybody knows that, but there is

1533
01:26:13.560 --> 01:26:16.640
no And then and then Jim Comey interviews her on

1534
01:26:16.760 --> 01:26:21.239
July fifth, the day after the day after our precious

1535
01:26:21.279 --> 01:26:24.680
fourth of July. He's interviewing you know, he comes before

1536
01:26:24.720 --> 01:26:27.560
the nation. He had already interviewed Hillary, but he came

1537
01:26:27.600 --> 01:26:32.600
before America on July fifth. He recounts Hillary's clant crimes.

1538
01:26:33.159 --> 01:26:35.520
And then at the end he says, but no one,

1539
01:26:36.239 --> 01:26:42.439
no court, reasonableutor, no reasonable prosecutor. He said, yeah, just ridiculous,

1540
01:26:43.000 --> 01:26:45.720
I know. And let's let's follow up on that. So

1541
01:26:46.199 --> 01:26:51.399
six six months later, this is July. Six months later

1542
01:26:51.439 --> 01:26:57.800
from July is is January. Six five months later, four

1543
01:26:57.800 --> 01:27:03.119
months later from July is the election of twenty sixteen

1544
01:27:03.720 --> 01:27:08.960
where Donald Trump got elected, right, Yeah, And that was

1545
01:27:09.039 --> 01:27:16.960
the So they were beside themselves, and so they orchestrated

1546
01:27:17.000 --> 01:27:20.199
a coup that started in December after the election because

1547
01:27:20.199 --> 01:27:21.880
they they believed that Hillary.

1548
01:27:21.600 --> 01:27:22.159
Was going to win.

1549
01:27:22.279 --> 01:27:24.800
She did not win. From a million to a million

1550
01:27:24.880 --> 01:27:27.880
to one, they said she was going to win, right,

1551
01:27:28.439 --> 01:27:30.720
And that's because they had a lot of vote fraud

1552
01:27:30.840 --> 01:27:35.119
going to of course. So so anyway, we had the

1553
01:27:35.119 --> 01:27:40.199
big upset of of Donald Trump winning the twenty sixteen election.

1554
01:27:40.479 --> 01:27:45.079
They immediately started plotting against Donald Trump, and they formalized

1555
01:27:45.880 --> 01:27:49.800
a meeting on January fifth. This is still before he

1556
01:27:50.199 --> 01:27:56.479
Trump's inaugurated, remember from transition is a lame duck. And

1557
01:27:56.800 --> 01:28:00.199
at that meeting or none other than James Comy, who

1558
01:28:00.239 --> 01:28:04.760
we had heard from six months earlier exonerating Hillary, James Clapper,

1559
01:28:05.479 --> 01:28:11.359
John Brennan, they were all there, and probably Susan Riis

1560
01:28:11.520 --> 01:28:13.880
and Susan Weiss was there, and Sally Yates was there.

1561
01:28:14.760 --> 01:28:18.760
And and look, I think Tulca Gabbart is a fairly

1562
01:28:19.520 --> 01:28:26.319
cautious woman. She would not come out and say what

1563
01:28:26.479 --> 01:28:30.439
she has said unless she was sure that the evidence

1564
01:28:30.560 --> 01:28:36.479
was overwhelming that they were plotting an extended creup against

1565
01:28:36.479 --> 01:28:40.720
Donald Trump, how they could undermine him. And shortly thereafter,

1566
01:28:40.800 --> 01:28:44.680
of course, they set up you know, Michael Flynn, General

1567
01:28:44.680 --> 01:28:48.640
Michael Flynn. They set him up and took him out

1568
01:28:48.800 --> 01:28:53.399
and made him you know, uh, you know, a liability

1569
01:28:53.439 --> 01:28:56.640
to Trump. So Trump Trump's knew, you know, he's brand

1570
01:28:56.720 --> 01:29:00.000
new in politics. So he gets advice, we'll look especially

1571
01:29:00.359 --> 01:29:03.479
especially feel appointee. The best thing to do is let

1572
01:29:03.560 --> 01:29:05.920
them go and replace him with somebody else. But they

1573
01:29:06.000 --> 01:29:09.399
wanted Michael Flynn out because Michael Flynn knew where all

1574
01:29:09.399 --> 01:29:13.000
the bodies were buried exactly. Well, all tell you there's

1575
01:29:13.000 --> 01:29:14.119
so much more to the story.

1576
01:29:14.159 --> 01:29:18.319
But again, this is a search for justice the bottom line, right, Scott,

1577
01:29:18.399 --> 01:29:22.920
That's what's because if you don't have if you don't

1578
01:29:22.960 --> 01:29:24.560
have justice, forget about liberty.

1579
01:29:25.279 --> 01:29:31.560
That's right. Liberty only can exist where you have where

1580
01:29:31.600 --> 01:29:35.520
you have a system of justice to protect it. Exactly

1581
01:29:36.000 --> 01:29:39.520
to protect it, I mean liberty. You know, liberty gives

1582
01:29:39.800 --> 01:29:42.760
bad guys freedom to operate. So you've got to have

1583
01:29:42.800 --> 01:29:46.079
a system of justice so that it limits the bad guys.

1584
01:29:46.119 --> 01:29:48.159
It's sort of like I make the analogy to sports.

1585
01:29:48.199 --> 01:29:52.920
You know, if if you if you uh take football

1586
01:29:52.960 --> 01:29:56.319
for example, if if the if the the referee comes

1587
01:29:56.800 --> 01:29:58.760
for the final game of the season says, you know

1588
01:29:59.520 --> 01:30:01.640
where where do what We're going to suspend all the

1589
01:30:01.720 --> 01:30:03.880
rules and allow you to All you have to do

1590
01:30:03.960 --> 01:30:06.560
is get your ball over the goal line. You know,

1591
01:30:06.760 --> 01:30:09.680
the two goals, two sides. They have to whoever gets

1592
01:30:09.720 --> 01:30:11.800
the more goals and you can do whatever you want.

1593
01:30:11.840 --> 01:30:15.640
There's no boundaries, no rules. What would happen the game

1594
01:30:15.920 --> 01:30:19.760
if people would get hurt, it would be disastrous. Same

1595
01:30:19.920 --> 01:30:23.000
for us in civil society.

1596
01:30:23.039 --> 01:30:24.840
Yeah, welcome, welcome to a world.

1597
01:30:25.399 --> 01:30:27.399
We're free within boundaries exactly.

1598
01:30:27.560 --> 01:30:29.039
Yeah, otherwise you got chaos.

1599
01:30:29.199 --> 01:30:30.600
That's right, that's the bottom line.

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Got to leave it there.

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01:30:32.239 --> 01:30:34.840
Scott Palell the author, member of the Committee on President

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01:30:34.920 --> 01:30:37.600
Danger China, and senior fellow at the Discovery Institute.

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Scott has always appreciate the time. Thank you to you, Bill,

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Thank you for all that you do.

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Council, tucker welcome. Back good to have you with.

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Us it's great to hear your voice and to be with.

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You and as we go back to, school this is

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a great time to be talking about this subject.

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Exactly, well millions of students they're going to ride to

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school this year on diesel. Buses but a new survey

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says parents are ready and let's just see if they're

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really willing for something.

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Cleaner it seems to be the.

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Case joining us, today AS i, mentioned Is Tucker, perkins

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The president AND ceo of The Pro education And Research,

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council with information on this new survey and how we

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can improve the ride to, school, Right.

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Tucker, Yeah we surveyed parents and educators across the country

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and they came back with the resounding, yes eighty seven

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percent saying they thought their children should ride to school

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in a low emission bus powered by Pro. Pane quite

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different than the reality on the, ground which is children

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go to school today the way their, parents in many

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cases grandparents went to school in a diesel power school.

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Bus that's the that's a bus of the. PAST a

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probane bus is off the, future better for the, child

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better for the, environment and better for the school.

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System, Well, tucker you're bringing the. RECEIPTS i mean this

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has been going.

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ON i mean this.

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Study people have seen the practical use of pro pain

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and the difference that children who who ride a, bus you,

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know powered by Pro paine as opposed to a diesel.

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Bus you, know tell us some of those obvious DIFFERENT

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i mean obvious because you AND i we've been talking

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about this we've studied, this but you, know some parents

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may still be a little bit confused about the.

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Difference Right in, fact this, morning twenty two thousand propane

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powered school buses will transport one point one million children

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to school every, day bring them home this, afternoon and

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we talk to those drivers and school nurses and teachers

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about the importance of giving those children that. Ride and

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so what we've learned is it's better for the. Child

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let's start. There it's. Healthier we've all been behind that

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cloud of black smoke when the bus pulls. Away we

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know what's in that cloud of black, smoke harmful pollutants

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create for children, asthma. Bronchitis when you choose, propane that

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cloud of black smoke is. Gone these buses are. Quieter

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it gives the child a calmer ride to, School they

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can converse with their, friends they can talk to the

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driver and the driver can hear. Them safer, environment excuse,

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me and then, lastly better for the immunity because every

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mile they travel is a, cleaner quieter, street and they're

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saving the school system money a rare set of, benefits

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and it's time to act and stop.

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Talking this is really a common sense sort of, thing

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and this is why parents responded the way they did

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in this new, survey, Right, Tucker, YEAH i really.

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Think this is the right. Time you, know a lot

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of talk about domestic and energy security and domestic security

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as we think about, propane it's the most domestic of

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all the, fuels and so it plays in we think

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about changes in emission. Regulation here's a chance to put

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a child in a modern bus that's cleaner than anything

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they've ever been in before and saves the school system.

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Money you, KNOW i love talking to fleets and other

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fleet managers about how to save. MONEY i really love

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talking to a school board about how to save, money

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allowing them to hire more, teaches, teachers buy better, computers

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fix the leak that's in the gymnasium, roof and so

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it's just an important way to give a child a

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leg up and to make the school system stronger as. Well.

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Well we've been talking about the impact that you, know

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our fuel decisions have on our environment for, decades, right

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and here you, Are. TUCKER i, mean propane is the clear,

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winner is it.

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Not and we love and we have a lot of,

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experience so there are a lot of fleets now around

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this country are one hundred percent committed to propane school,

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buses and we see how it's changed their. Fleets so it's.

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Powerful the drivers want to drive. It it's a great

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retention tool and a way to attract school bus. Drivers

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and in all those communities across the, country we're going

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to be seeing that sign go up now school bus drivers.

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Needed it's a great way for the. Child the child

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gets a different, ride a better ride to, school and

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then again saving. Money how important is that so and

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doing our part for the, environment making a logical choice

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to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and a host of other harmful.

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Pollutants what effect does it have on the maintenance schedule

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on these.

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Buses it's about the. Same but the beauty of it

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is we don't need a lot of the complex emission

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equipment that's currently on a diesel. Bus it adds a

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lot of first cost expense and really difficult to. Maintain

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we use less oil in a propane bus than we

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do in a diesel, bus so there's less oil to dispose.

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Of there are a host of maintenance benefits when you

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go from diesel to pro, paine and that's one way

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school systems save a lot of money that have this

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lower maintenance cost as well as a lower fuel. Cost.

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Exactly we're talking To Tucker, Perkins president And Chief Executive

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officer for The Propane education And Research, council a position

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he has held since twenty. Seventeen since coming To perkin twenty,

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Twelve perkins has served as Its Chief Business Development, officer

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most recently its Chief operations Of previously was a member

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of The Perk Advisory committee and shared the panel on engine. Fuel,

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tucker as you, MENTIONED i got to believe that when you,

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know recruiting comes into, play like you, said the signs

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are going to be. Up you, know bus drivers needed.

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THAT a prospective bus driver having a choice to drive

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a pro pane bus that is cleaner and, safer, BOY

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i got to imagine that puts you a leg up

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over somebody who's offering another job but not quite as

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nice a bus.

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BILL i love to be there when those first propane

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buses roll into a, system because invariably the drivers, GO

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i don't want to drive. That it's. Different one day

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in that, bus they realize how much quieter it, is

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how much cleaner it is for. Them they're not smelling

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that diesel exhaust either and then how powerful and responsive

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it is for them to. Drive then they routinely, say

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on day, Two i'm not going back to my diesel.

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Bus AND i see it day in day out as

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we're talking to fleet managers about making this.

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Switch you, see this is what makes your job easier

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because when you can deliver on your promise and the

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proof is in the, pudding and it's that clear that

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somebody can be, hesitant but you know you have the

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confidence because you've been through this drill. Enough you've seen

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this scenario time and, again and you're just waiting to

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see that frown turned upside down into a.

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Smile.

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Right it tells you a lot about human behavior and

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a reluctance to change because rarely AND i love this,

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story although the story doesn't ever have any bad. News

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where else can someone promise you something that's better for the,

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child better for the, environment and it's cheaper to. Operate you,

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know it's such a, rare unique set of circumstances that

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come together that make a propane bus a bus of

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the future and one That i'm proud to say a

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lot of fleets are fully committed. To but it's time

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for parents to engage and ramp up this conversation so

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their school boards will make the shift as.

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Well, well like you.

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Say in the, survey the parents chimed, in and so

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how did they feel about the cost of low emission?

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Buses, well interesting when cost comes into, this the parents

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surveyed were about the same as other people when they, say,

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YES i really want to protect the, environment But i'm

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not really willing to pay much for. That and what

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the parents said here is they firmly believed that children

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should have this better, ride but they were worried about

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taking money away from the school. System, now the next

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step of that is once they learned these, facts then

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they were even more resolute that they wanted their children

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to ride in this propane powered. Bus and not just their,

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children they wanted all the. Children they wanted us to

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be accessible to. Everyone and so as they learned about

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finally the cost, savings not the cost, disadvantage their cost,

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savings they became even more strong advocates to go away

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from diesel and choose. Propane when you.

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Say cost, savings what are we talking, About, Tuger we could.

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Be talking about five thousand dollars per bus per year

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in the. Operating, yeah so we have a lot of.

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Fleets think about. It if you're running one hundred, buses that's

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a half a million dollars a. Year and we see

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it time in and time. Out hire more, teachers put

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in better, computers fix the leak that was in the

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roof in the. Gym whatever money makes the, difference it

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makes the biggest difference in a school. System and so

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we're talking about significant savings for a school. System even

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one bus could be five thousand dollars a year and

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that's a significant.

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Savings how common are propane school buses?

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Today, well there are twenty two thousand buses that operate

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today in the country on. Propane we're proud of that.

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Fact but there are over four hundred thousand buses that

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don't operate on. Propane and that's what we're trying to

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change this. Conversation have the parents engage with the school

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systems and, say why aren't our children and all the

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children of this community given this same opportunity to get to, school, healthier,

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calmer and save us.

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Money Zicher perkins has been our.

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Guest The PRESIDENT'S ceo Of Propane education And Research Counsel

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Tucker i'm going to give you the last.

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From focus on The.

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Family Mister, gary it's been a minute or. Two good

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to have you back with. Us how you've Been.

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I've been, well it's been, yeah it's been like a

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couple of. Months we have so many good spokespeople That.

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FOCUS i don't get my turn that.

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Often so, WELL.

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01:48:47.680 --> 01:48:51.159
I thought maybe daily had, you you, know beaten the

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bushes and you, KNOW i, mean, here you are the

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01:48:53.319 --> 01:48:56.039
assistant to the president for media, relations SO i fear

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he had you run around with your hair on.

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01:48:57.520 --> 01:49:01.560
Fire, well as people who are watching can, SEE i

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01:49:01.560 --> 01:49:03.359
don't have that problem with my hair on.

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Fire, YEAH i hear. You but, anyway we got lots

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01:49:09.439 --> 01:49:10.079
to talk. About.

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01:49:10.439 --> 01:49:13.039
YEAH i saw the, survey the marriage survey that you

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take in and the numbers right off the bat pretty.

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Impressive who would have thought that seventy four percent of

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01:49:21.479 --> 01:49:23.880
us marriages are quote unquote.

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Healthy, YEAH i mean that's what our respond, is more

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01:49:27.239 --> 01:49:30.319
than three thousand people who we. Surveyed and again it's

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01:49:30.359 --> 01:49:33.720
important to remember about this survey that it's a self.

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01:49:33.760 --> 01:49:36.520
Assessment these are what people say about their. Marriages, now

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01:49:36.520 --> 01:49:38.279
there's one way to look at that and, say, well

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01:49:38.279 --> 01:49:42.039
it's not scientifically it is scientifically, valid but it's not

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like they analyze that we analyze these. People this is

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01:49:46.359 --> 01:49:48.720
what they think about their, Marriages and from our, perspective

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01:49:48.960 --> 01:49:51.199
that's the best kind of survey you can, have because

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01:49:51.359 --> 01:49:53.760
who knows better about the state and the health of

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01:49:53.800 --> 01:49:55.920
their own marriages than people who are in those.

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01:49:55.960 --> 01:49:58.960
Marriages, well, yeah some guys would, say look at my

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01:49:59.000 --> 01:50:04.800
wife says our marriage is. Healthy so it's, healthy, yes, yeah,

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right so just to keep it safe and keep it

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01:50:07.399 --> 01:50:11.079
fair and keep themselves out of. Trouble but even if you,

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know from an optimistic, standpoint if the assessment is that

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it's healthy or mostly, HEALTHY i think that's that's a good.

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Sign that's an encouraging. Sign what's going on? Here, YEAH

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i mean.

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One of the things that we wanted to make sure

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01:50:23.399 --> 01:50:26.680
we did with this survey is not ask people if

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they're if they were happy in their, marriages because we

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all know, marriage, right happiness and any any in any

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01:50:33.520 --> 01:50:36.279
endeavor is an up and down, thing, right happiness can.

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Be it's a day to day it's like the stock,

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01:50:38.439 --> 01:50:39.880
market up and. Down, well it's.

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Like my, friend my, friend you, Say, gary happiness is

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01:50:42.560 --> 01:50:45.079
based on a happening at.

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Amen i'm going to steal.

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That if that's what you, can you can you can

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have that all you want and take it to the.

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Bank it made so much sense to, me, obviously and

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01:50:52.079 --> 01:50:54.960
it stayed with me AND i uh, so, yeah you're exactly.

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Right it is an up and down.

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Experience some would, say you, know referring to the Old disneyland,

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days an e coupon ride at, times.

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Right, yeah so, healthy, right that is day to, day

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even when we're not, happy even when there are some

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some AS i would say, healthy, uh you, know intense

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01:51:13.680 --> 01:51:17.279
fellowship going on in the. Marriage we believe it's. Healthy

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we believe that we're we're on good. Footing that, really

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and that's not Just christian. Marriages that's marriages we.

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Surveyed MAR i was going TO i was going to

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ask you if it was reserved For. Christians this is

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this is the entire universe, HERE i guess, basically, right, yeah.

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This is everybody that's, good people of other, faith people

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01:51:35.720 --> 01:51:38.960
of no, faith and seventy four percent find their marriages

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to be. Healthy that was The that was one of

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01:51:41.960 --> 01:51:43.760
the things that came out of this study that was

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01:51:43.800 --> 01:51:45.680
most encouraging to. Us one of the things that came

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out of the study that was not most encouraging to

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01:51:47.840 --> 01:51:51.279
us is, this and that is that only twenty one

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01:51:51.359 --> 01:51:54.399
percent of married couples in THE us have sought help

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01:51:54.439 --> 01:51:58.520
for their marriage in the last twelve. Months of those interesting,

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01:51:58.560 --> 01:52:01.880
stuff bill fourteen percent who say their marriages. Aren't to

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01:52:01.880 --> 01:52:05.399
make SURE i get those words, right that they fourteen

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01:52:05.439 --> 01:52:08.600
percent sought a moderate amount of. Help and among those

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01:52:08.640 --> 01:52:12.279
in marriage. Crisis, okay that's like divorces on the. Table

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in my, mind only seventeen percent sought even a moderate

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amount of. Help that's the kind of, stuff, Right that's

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what why focus on The family is here to reach

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those folks to, say let us help you strengthen your

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marriage and get into the healthy.

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Zone, right. Exactly, well and what was the response Among?

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Christians was was it any different for people that professed

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A christian?

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Belief, Yeah christians did seek it more, often but not you,

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know again somewhat, disappointedly not remarkably. So and of those

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01:52:51.199 --> 01:52:54.279
of all of those, again all Of americans who seek

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01:52:54.640 --> 01:52:58.439
help for their for their, marriages AND i, chuckle and

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01:52:58.479 --> 01:53:03.359
it's not, funny it's. Ironic and and it's Said google

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01:53:03.920 --> 01:53:08.039
was their number one source of help for their. Marriage

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so we take those results to focus on the family as, Saying,

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okay we've got to let more folks know about the

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01:53:14.960 --> 01:53:19.319
programs we have to help people whose marriages are, struggling

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whether that be our marriage assessment that you can take

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and focus on the family dot, com whether that be

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to our marriage intensives, right the really intense dive deep

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01:53:32.000 --> 01:53:35.920
let's go hope restored those kinds of things that can

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really help turn marriages around and have a remarkable success.

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01:53:39.880 --> 01:53:42.720
Rate hope, restored which again is an intensive for couples

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who are on the brink of. Divorce it's got a

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ninety percent success rateing and keeping those couples.

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Together that, testimonials the testimonials are astounding. THERE i, mean you,

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know people going forget about marriage being on the. Table

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we were off that we have fallen off the. Table

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we were already dealing with attorneys and uh and so

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they uh you, know.

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01:54:09.079 --> 01:54:16.319
Through focuses resources, here you you reverse the trajectory of

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01:54:16.079 --> 01:54:19.039
a of a, marriage of a, family the kids that be.

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Affected.

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Unbelievable the success, record, yeah for.

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Sure and the the other thing that we thought was

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interesting about the survey, again many things interesting about the.

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01:54:28.439 --> 01:54:30.520
Survey we'll be talking about this for most of this

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01:54:30.600 --> 01:54:33.239
year because there's so many interesting data. Points but one

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01:54:34.920 --> 01:54:38.760
what what do you think were the top five drivers

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01:54:39.399 --> 01:54:45.239
of of marital health if you had to pick five?

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01:54:45.279 --> 01:54:47.399
Things that we have these things this is what makes

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01:54:47.439 --> 01:54:47.920
our marriage.

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01:54:47.960 --> 01:54:52.079
HEALTHY i still think the number one issues.

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Trust CAN i trust the? Person ding ding?

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01:54:55.199 --> 01:54:56.199
Ding you're?

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Correct, well, yeah BECAUSE i that is so found and

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the thing is the culture, thinks oh it's. OKAY i,

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01:55:03.760 --> 01:55:06.399
mean there was a SURVEY i was reading the other

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day about people who are unfaithful in their, marriage AND

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01:55:10.159 --> 01:55:12.239
i thought it was. Interesting they had a higher number

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for guys than women and where you, know there'd been

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01:55:17.319 --> 01:55:21.760
an additional, affair AND i just, MEAN i, mean it

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01:55:21.880 --> 01:55:26.159
just seemed like somebody was lying, here, right but nonetheless

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01:55:26.159 --> 01:55:29.479
the numbers were still. There and and to, me that's

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01:55:29.520 --> 01:55:33.039
one of the, biggest if not the biggest trust violation

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01:55:33.199 --> 01:55:35.880
you can have in a relationship is when you violate

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your your covenant commitment to your.

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Marriage, yeah for, sure and that that is, Indeed, bill

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that's the number one that that leads to a healthy.

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Marriage the number one. Factor also number two is love

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for each. Other the third one is respect for each,

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other very. Important fourth we see a lot sexual. Intimacy

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and five is communication with each. Other being able to

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01:56:00.119 --> 01:56:03.920
talk to each other openly without, anger, frustration but you,

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01:56:03.920 --> 01:56:09.880
know openly and honestly and, humbly and you, know with

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01:56:09.960 --> 01:56:13.479
a mind towards solving, problems not yelling at each. Other

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01:56:13.760 --> 01:56:16.359
those are the things that drive these healthy marriages that

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01:56:16.399 --> 01:56:18.319
we talked about that we discovered in the.

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01:56:18.399 --> 01:56:21.520
Study, yeah you got to quit looking At google for your,

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01:56:21.560 --> 01:56:25.000
example what a model or maybe even some of THESE

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01:56:25.039 --> 01:56:27.399
tv series you Know, gary for such a long, time

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01:56:27.439 --> 01:56:29.680
a couple of decades, there marriage was.

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01:56:29.600 --> 01:56:32.239
So under you, know under.

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Attack they were constantly making fun and attacking the father for.

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Example and here we, are what's the big issue that

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01:56:39.920 --> 01:56:40.479
we're dealing with?

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Today but fatherlessness, Right, oh for, SURE.

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I mean that is.

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A number one cause of some of the pathologies that

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01:56:51.720 --> 01:56:55.039
happened among, children for. Sure and another thing that was.

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01:56:55.319 --> 01:56:59.520
Right we also surveyed attitudes toward, marriage and we found

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01:56:59.560 --> 01:57:06.119
this for single, people bill marriage is losing. Appeal just

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01:57:06.199 --> 01:57:09.239
over half of single never married, respondents fifty six percent

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01:57:09.359 --> 01:57:12.479
SAID i want to get married. Someday we've got to

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01:57:12.520 --> 01:57:14.439
do a better job as the body Of christ and

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01:57:14.439 --> 01:57:18.119
focus on the. Family needs to help lift that boat

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01:57:18.760 --> 01:57:21.199
and letting people know just the value and the and

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01:57:21.239 --> 01:57:24.199
the beauty and the benefits of. Marriage and fifty six

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01:57:24.279 --> 01:57:26.600
percent of those who are not married who are younger

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Say i'm never going to get. Married we've got to

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01:57:30.159 --> 01:57:33.640
hold out a better example and a, better better, discussion

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and hopefully this survey is one of the things that

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01:57:35.439 --> 01:57:37.279
helps that helps accomplish.

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That, well the thing, is in part is the culture

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has been infected.

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01:57:41.880 --> 01:57:46.319
Here, gary it has abused the sacrament of. Marriage they

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01:57:46.319 --> 01:57:49.159
have violated in such a. Degree can you blame these?

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01:57:49.239 --> 01:57:52.319
KIDS i, mean with the hookup culture that exists, today no,

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01:57:52.479 --> 01:57:57.680
consequence get, pregnant get an, abortion you, know, rinse cycle and,

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01:57:57.720 --> 01:58:01.279
repeat you, know and the kids, go, well why SHOULD

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01:58:01.319 --> 01:58:03.840
i get? Married you, Know i'm down here in the

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01:58:03.840 --> 01:58:06.960
basement of mom And dad's. House i'm not paying any.

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01:58:07.000 --> 01:58:09.399
Rent it's all, good you. Know they give me an,

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01:58:09.399 --> 01:58:13.520
Allowance my girlfriend comes, over we hook, up AND i

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need to get.

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Married why?

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RIGHT i mean.

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Exactly and that's where one of the things that we

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found that shows one of that drives healthy. Marriages and

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01:58:23.680 --> 01:58:26.119
we've talked about this when this study first came. Out

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01:58:26.159 --> 01:58:29.079
before we released it to the, PUBLIC i did a

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01:58:29.119 --> 01:58:31.760
few interviews and one was with you and That Convictional

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01:58:31.840 --> 01:58:34.760
christians we call them into, data, Right Convictional christians those

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01:58:34.800 --> 01:58:38.039
who don't just believe the, faith don't just read about the,

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01:58:38.079 --> 01:58:41.239
faith but they they act out the. Faith they, pray

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01:58:41.279 --> 01:58:43.640
they go to, church they pray with each. Other on

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01:58:43.840 --> 01:58:48.520
thirty two areas that indicate marriage health Convictional christians rate

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01:58:48.600 --> 01:58:53.319
themselves higher in terms of health than anybody else who

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01:58:53.399 --> 01:58:56.680
took this. Survey that to me is the gold key

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01:58:57.279 --> 01:59:01.279
for this. Study if you are a, believer not enough

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01:59:01.279 --> 01:59:02.680
to just be a, believer you have to be a

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01:59:02.720 --> 01:59:04.880
doer of the. World if you do that in the

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01:59:04.920 --> 01:59:08.960
context of your marriage thirty two all thirty two of

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01:59:09.000 --> 01:59:11.800
the things that range from those things we talked, about

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01:59:11.880 --> 01:59:14.760
trust and, communication all of those, things thirty two of those,

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01:59:14.800 --> 01:59:17.479
things you're going to rate yourself. Higher you're going to

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01:59:17.479 --> 01:59:21.960
see yourself more healthy on the scale that we talked

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01:59:21.960 --> 01:59:25.600
about if you do those things as a quote unquote Convictional.

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01:59:25.199 --> 01:59:27.640
Christian But gary to your, point, SEE i think those

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01:59:27.680 --> 01:59:30.960
stories need to be echoed. Repeatedly there needs to be

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01:59:31.000 --> 01:59:35.880
a campaign of healthy, marriages why marriage is, sacred why

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01:59:35.960 --> 01:59:39.920
it's successful amongst you, know the people who are getting

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01:59:39.920 --> 01:59:44.479
married today and be able to tell their, story you,

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01:59:44.479 --> 01:59:47.800
know BECAUSE i mean before people got married because they

2145
01:59:47.800 --> 01:59:52.640
had to was a survival. Reason As america, expanding, NOW

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i guess maybe the survival dynamic is a little bit,

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different but it's still a survival is is it? Not

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i'm not quite you. Know bringing all these words together

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THAT i want to. SAY i think they're stuck in my,

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brain BUT i think you know Where i'm getting.

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To, yeah for.

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SURE i mean we have to do a better job

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of talking about our, marriages talking about what we what

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the value of our marriages. Is and that's one of

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the things that this, study this this study helps us

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do is identify where people say their marriage helps them

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do this and this and this.

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Exactly that's the.

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Stuff that's why we're doing a barnstorming, tour if you,

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will right, now because this study just came out a

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couple of weeks. Ago we are talking about it everywhere

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we can because we want people to know exactly what

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you talked. About the benefits of marriage extend beyond just

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to the to the husband and wife and the. Kids

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they extend it to the society and the. Culture happily.

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Marriage you, know happily married folks who are in healthy

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marriages make for a healthier. Society and that's What focused

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on The family wants to help help.

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Developed, well look at, buddy you need to stay in

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touch and give me an, update all, right and then

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when we get a group of people together to this,

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end because you, know for so, long marriage has been.

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Maligned can we just have a, while a period of

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time where we could celebrate?

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Marriage?

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Absolutely, yeah we should absolutely do that because we don't

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do it. Enough you, know marriages Is, yes it's intimate

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and it's personal between a husband and wife and the

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context of, family but it's also something for society to

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celebrate and for us to talk about in society because it, is,

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indeed to your point, earlier it is indeed something that

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is a survival. MECHANISM i know it is for. Me

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maybe not in the same way it was you, know

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forty or fifty years, ago BUT i am a better

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human being because of my wife THAN i am without.

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Her, Yeah i'm with you one hundred.

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