April 13, 2026
The Bill Martinez Show 04 13 26

The Bill Martinez Show 04 13 26
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Are you ready, Yeah, Okay, let's do it.
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Bill Martinez Live a program about current events, our culture,
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our values, our politics, and our future.
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And now Bill Martinez.
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Well, good morning America. Good to have you with us.
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Bill Martinez here at six minutes after the top of
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the hour and joining us right now is Julian Hagman.
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He is the COO of Caring Professionals. Julian, welcome show,
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Good to have you with us.
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Thanks for having me. Bill appreciate it.
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Well, we've got billions of dollars in medicaid fraud. It's
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almost like every day we just hear of more fraud,
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and you know, and it's what's so aggravating about this
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is that we tried to do something about I say
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we the government, Donald Trump and the administration tried to
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do something about it early on with DOGE. But man,
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I'm telling you could find out real quick what a
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political hot potato this was and who was feeding out
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the troth of these of these fraudsters.
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Yeah, one hundred percent. I mean, you see it nationwide
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on a scale that no one really imagines unless you're
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actually working in the industries that it affects, that it plagues,
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and that's really what it is. It's you know, a
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plague that's going around and affecting all of these industries
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and programs that really are good programs and were built
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off of good ideas and good thought. However, the execution
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and the follow through by the different states has you know,
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been a epic failure.
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Yeah. Well, you know, as the COO of caring professionals,
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you saw this and I'm sure you had been talking
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to somebody whistle blowing to a certain degree, and now
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it's coming out. So how frustrating is this for you?
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Because of course, this just doesn't happen in a bubble.
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You know, what happens in Minneapolis doesn't stay in Minneapolis.
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You know, it's a contagion.
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So it's more than frustrating. I don't think frustrating. I'm
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past frustrating to put it lately. But yeah, to put
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it in perspective, right, it's easy to find the low
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level fraud, the provider level fraud, right, And that's what
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they're doing out in Minneapolis and in California with the
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hospice centers. Right, they're finding the lower level fraud, the
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provider that's billing fraudulently, that owns owns a bentling. Right,
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those are easy to spot, easy to take a picture of,
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a video of, and explain it. The bigger fraud aspects
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going across the country is the contracts fraud and why
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aren't the states putting guardrails on these programs to limit enrollment,
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to limit the potential for fraud in these programs. Right,
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That's the major issue that everyone needs to be concerned
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about because we all can agree, we all want these
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programs to be around, and we all want to be
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able to ben fit, have loved ones that benefit off
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the program, friends, et cetera. But when these programs come
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into play and then there's no enforcement and no compliance
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regiment behind it, that's when that's when people can really
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take a program and you know, run wild with it
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with fraud. And I blame solely blamed the legislatures across
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the country that you know, have turned a blind eye
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to this, and whether they're getting donations to their packs
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and their super packs from these fraudsters, whether they're you know,
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initiating these blind procurements and backroom deals in order to
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facilitate people that they are friendly with to be able
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to lead these programs. It's it's you know, it's it
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all falls on the legislature across the country for you know,
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putting these programs in place, which was the good thing,
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but not preventing the fraud to begin with. That's the
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main thing.
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Yeah, what happened to oversight? I mean they often talk
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about oversight. I mean, there am I a on this situation.
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You know, it's it's amazing because you know, in the
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old days, we used to say, I think was Everard Dirkson,
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the Senator would say, you know, a millionaire, a millionaire
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and a million here. You know, after a while you're
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talking lots of money. We're not talking millions anymore. We're
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talking billions leading into trillions.
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Yeah. No, absolutely, it's hundreds of billions across the country,
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hundreds of billions, and that could really go a long
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way in securing the longevity of these programs. Not to
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mention cutting taxes for everybody in America. I mean this
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this this isn't a state issue. It's a country issue.
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And everybody is contributing to the fraud, whether you know
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it or not. But you're paying for it through your taxes.
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You are. All these medicaid programs are a federal match program.
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So you know, it's not just state money, it's federal money,
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it's your money, it's my money, it's everybody's money. And
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we should be able to hold the people accountable to
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administer the programs and say where are your compliance? Where
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is this How did this person get a contract through
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a fraudulent RFP process? Why are you not listening to
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the good providers on the grounds that have been serving
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this industry for decades rather than revamping the program to
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see how you like it to be fit. That's not
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how it works. You know, a lot of these programs,
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you know, when they're written legislatively, the legislative doesn't know
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what it means to go and actually work in these
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programs or how the program runs right. They would like
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to because they like to sound all smart writing their legislation.
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But the real education comes when you talk to the
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provider network and the associations, and all the states have
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these good provider networks and associations that can probably point
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you to where the fraud is and what the issues
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are in the programs and how to better service the
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individuals of that state through those programs. But again it
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falls on deaf years because they want to go around
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and they want to sell these contracts off to the
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highest bidder, through their friends, through their networks, and they
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don't care. They want to and they want to grow
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their medicaid programs because the higher the Medicaid program is,
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the more money they get from the Fed. Right. No one,
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no one's talking about that, right. But that that's the
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real issue here, is that you know, they're almost incentivized
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to grow the medicaid program because then they get more
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funding from the federal government. Right, And that they bad incentives.
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Yeah, they get more money from the federal government, and
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the politicians who are in their pocket get more money too,
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because again the old saying, follow the money. You know,
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I was talking with Grover Norquiz here recently and I said, Grover,
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we're thirty nine trillion dollars in debt. How much of
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that money went to buying votes? He was probably all
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of it. Yeah, I mean it sounds center, but you know,
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this is the problem that we have. And meanwhile, we
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the people are getting the short end of the stick here.
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And you know, and it's not just us, it's and
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it's forget about our grandkids, it's now our great grandkids.
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You know, they're going to pay the price of this.
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But it's it just seems like they've they've acquiesced and
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they've gotten so used to this, you know, this way
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of doing business. It's a flawed program. And that's the
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one thing about everything that has to do with the government,
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the administrative state. Everybody is quick to say, what it's broken, Okay,
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well how long? How long have you known it to
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be broken? And why didn't you do something about it?
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And you're just saying here, this has been going on
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for decades.
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Yep, yep, one hundred percent. And to your point, right,
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it's not I don't think it's the grandkids that are
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going to be affected by this. You know, it's start
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with your generation, right, And that's where it's going to
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really start, because they're already limiting and taking away choice
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for provider networks for you. And so what does that
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say about America overall? When we're saying that you can't
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go to this doctor, you have to go to see
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this provider. That's not right. That's not And that's just
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the tip of the slope here, right, And it's very slippery.
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Once you start removing people's choice, you're not moving now,
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you're moving from a democratic government to a socialist gogment.
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You're saying, you have to use this person, right, Oh,
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I'm sorry, I want to use them because I have
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a better You can't. I'm not going to pay it.
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You have to pay it out of pocket if you
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want to go use that person.
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But Obamacare told me if I wanted my doctor, I
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could have the same doctor.
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Right.
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Yeah, yeah, that's that's the tale as old as time
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is insurance. Right. But I mean, that's just it's a
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very slippery slope and we're at the peak of it
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with the fraud coming to light, and now the states
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are using that say okay, we need to have much
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more control over oversight, and so we're going to limit
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the providers. And how do we limit the providers. We're
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going to say we need one provider to be able
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to get proper reporting from. And this is where it
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all starts, and this is this is how it affects
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your generations and affect my generation. Does that affect the
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next generation? And you know, if people like living and
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having their freedoms, we need to stop this and nip
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this in the bud. Right now, got to.
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Go to quick break. We've got more from Julian on
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believers know that no matter the situation at hand, Christ
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