Jan. 21, 2026
The Bill Martinez Show 01 21 26
The Bill Martinez Show 01 21 26
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Are you ready?
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Yeah, Okay, let's do it.
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Ill Martinez Live a program about current events, our culture,
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our values, our politics, and our future.
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And now Bill Martinez.
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Hey, right now America. Six minutes after the top, they
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are Bill Martinez here with the professor from Kentucky State University,
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the one and only Wilfrid Riley. Hey, doctor Riley.
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How you doing good? Are you hey?
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I'm doing I'm doing terrific. You know, it's an interesting
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time right now with this new year, twenty twenty six,
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and here Monday when MLK Day. You know, I'm thinking
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back fifty eight years ago and I think, oh my gosh,
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I can't believe this, and it reminds me, Yes, I
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am that old. I was a senior in high school
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when we were dealing with the assassination of you know,
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Bobby Kennedy, and of course you know Martin Luther King junior,
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and you know, in his impact and his leg see.
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You know, it's amazing in light of the culture that
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we're dealing with that MLK was, I guess because he was.
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He was so honest, not saying he was a perfect man.
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We're all humanoids and we're all flawed in our own way.
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But the message that he carried was of legacy quality,
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and this is why it continues to this day because
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it is uh, you know, it's best in truth. You know.
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I like the one line that he talked about when
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he said darkness cannot drive out darkness. Only light can
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do that. Right.
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I think when we honor people in general, and we're
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honoring the positive thing that person did. And this has
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become almost a cliche, but I mean, we don't honor
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Thomas Jefferson because he had a mistress who happened to
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be a slave. We don't honor, you know, Abe Lincoln
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because he fought a big war, although obviously he won
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the Civil War. We honor those people because they did
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things that were unique, magnificent. I mean Jefferson, you know,
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completed the Louisiana purchase. He added at the time half
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of the United States. Abe Lincoln kept the country together. So,
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I mean a lot of people have mistresses, not many
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people to create nations. It's like the I mean it's
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almost a joke. But Christopher Columbus got lost. Yeah, well
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he got lost and he found the United States. I
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mean he got lost and he went to Columbus instead
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of Cleveland.
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You know, so Martin Luther Similarly, Martin Luther King quite likely.
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Averted a race war in the United States. I mean,
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you can like or dislike this as a Republican, but
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he's responsible for the modern Civil Rights Act. Martin Luther
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King was the leader of the American civil rights movement,
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which in terms of the first wave basic desegregation I
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think we all think was good. I mean, he's the
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guy commemorated with Martin Luther King Day, So I mean,
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he really is one of those He's one of those
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guys in wax. He's one of the people that has
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a statue, and I think he generally speaking deserves it.
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So yeah, that's that's why we remember him with as
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a legacy figure, like you said, as a figure who
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keeps on down through the ages, like Jefferson. He's someone
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whose books and speeches you read.
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Yeah, I'm not sure you know your statementunless I misunderstood
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that Republicans in principle would disagree with Martin Luther King
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Day or Martin Luther King as a person and what
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he promoted, because it would seem that it was the
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Democratic Party that was in conflict more with the values
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of Martin Luther King and in integration. I mean, look
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at what happened in the South in Alabama, right, I mean,
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and its shades and memories of what we're dealing with
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here in Minneapolis.
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Well, no, there are two things there.
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I think that a lot of modern Republicans would have
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some questions about what ended up happening with the Civil
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Rights Act in the nineteen sixty five Immigration Act. I
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sometimes do myself. The CRA is one of those bills
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that came into conflict with another kind of foundational American value,
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which is the right of free association. I would come
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down on the side of the Civil Rights Act. I
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don't see anything wrong with saying that at the baseline level,
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you can't if you're hiring executives, you can't discriminate against women, Blacks,
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Irish and Hispanics so on. But I mean that is
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a debate that people have in general. I don't think
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that Republicans are or racist, for example, that Democrats certainly
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not if you define racism broadly. So I mean, if
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you're asking someone if they're a bigot, you can't just say,
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well do you dislike black people? You would also have
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to ask, well do you dislike white people. Do you
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dislike I mean, do you dislike immigration from Europe and
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Latin America? I mean like then, and if you ask
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those questions, I mean you'll find that fakind American Democratic
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Party voters or white Liberals or something like that aren't
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the most tolerant people in the world necessarily. So I
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think that's the point there. I mean, for I think
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any viewers of you or me would know this. But
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your other pointer correction there is good. I mean, the
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Democratic Party, historically, no, was not better on race than
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the Republican Party. The Republican Party in fact, was founded
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to pose slavery in the United States. I mean, that's
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the root basis of the GOP. The Democratic Party was
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sort of the armed wing of the pro slavery movement
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in the USA for a long time.
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So I mean in.
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The Dixie, the whole Dixie movement, the Dixiecrats and so on.
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Dixie Krat is a combination of Dixie and Democrats. All
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those boys were Southern Democratic senators and Republicans.
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Anyway, a long conversation here.
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Some people argue the two parties switched on race in
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the nineteen sixties. In my book, Lies my liberal teacher
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told me, I actually argue that that's not really true.
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Almost every sitting Southern representative who opposed the CRA, who
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voted against the Civil Rights Act stayed on as a Democrat.
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I mean Bobby Bird, Robert Bird was clan right, and
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he was the Democratic Senator from West Virginia well into
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the nineties. So gradually did those guys just kind of
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died and they were replaced by younger African American in
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a lot of cases or kind of you I fear
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remember John Edwards, kind of guys like that, like trial
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lawyers from the New South, and that's when you started
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seeing that shift in the South.
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But yeah, it's an interesting racial picture down there.
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Yeah, in my observation of the Civil Rights Act is
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that I sought more as a political ploy as opposed
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to really, you know, liberating you know blacks. I mean,
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it was Lyndon Johnson who was quoted as saying, in
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convincing the Southern Democrats that you referred to to go
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along with the CRA because it would ensure the black
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voters as a voting block for Democrats, he said for
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one hundred years. And he didn't say blacks. He used
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the N word, because that's the way he talked, and
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it was very demeaning. So I looked at it as
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more of a political operation as opposed to something that
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really connected with the spirit of the Constitution that all
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men are created equal, made in the image of God.
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Well, that's a famous quote from Lyndon Bains Johnson. Lyndon Johnson,
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it's fascinating guy. First of all, I think he'd be
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an interesting guy to have a beer with. Like a
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lot of those politicians from back then, I mean, going from.
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Kennedy to Reagan. I mean, they're all real American whether
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you like them or not.
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But yeah, Lyndon Johnson in his kind of draw setting,
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I'll have them mowings, let's say, voting Democrat for one
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hundred years.
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When he signed the CRA, you.
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Know, the Civil Rights Act.
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The basic point of the Civil Rights Act is very
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hard to oppose because, I mean, without civil rights law,
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there aren't there aren't protections. Both of us have been bosses,
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like there aren't protections in employment law in a capital
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country automatically. You know, when the first time I was
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working on a sales floor, the boss Al Carlson, who's
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just a fascinating character. Real Chicago guy basically said, you know,
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you guys is a trading floor. You guys have your phone,
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you got your folder of leads. We can fire you
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for any reason and no reason at all. You know,
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your base salary is like six hundred dollars a month
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in a can of soup. You know's all.
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You got a can of soup.
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I didn't get a can of souper.
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But it's this whole speech, like, you know, if I
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think you're an idiot, I can let you go. You know,
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leads as sales numbers are written on the board every day.
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But basically, you can fire someone for being an idiot.
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You can fight, but you can't fire someone for being
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like a black idiot. And the Civil Rights Act kind
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of entrenched that into lall, like you can't fire someone
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for being female, black, white, Irish, and before that you could.
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I think that's basically good. An interesting point also is
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that without the Civil Rights Act, unless you really have
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a good constitutional turn on your team, there's no protection
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from firing for being white. I think the dissident right
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boys sometimes kind of forget this, Like the assumption is, well,
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if we got rid of civil rights law, then all
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of this affirmative action stuff that would go away and
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we might have more of an advantage in the job market.
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I'm not sure that's true.
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I'm not sure modern corporations Target and Harley and so
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on would have any preference, not that they should for
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Caucasian American born Americans if they decided to implement quote
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unquote woke programs at scale again with no CRA, there's
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no way to oppose that because the law is gone.
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So anyway, the cool thing about the CRA, but yeah,
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there's definitely some sketchy politicking around it, and i'm a
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lot of lying around it and immigration law as well.
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