Jan. 16, 2026

The Bill Martinez Show 01 16 26

The Bill Martinez Show 01 16 26
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The Bill Martinez Show 01 16 26
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Are you ready, Yeah, Okay, let's do it.

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Ill Martinez Live a program about current events, our culture,

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our values, our politics, and our future.

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And now Bill Martinez.

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Well, good morning America. Good to have you with us.

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Bill Martinez here right now, six minutes after the top

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of the hour, we've got John O'Connor joining us right now. Hey, John,

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how you doing.

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Hey, just great, Bill, Well.

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Happy new year to you. Good to have you with us.

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Yeah, yeah, it's always good to have another year.

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Yeah, right, exactly. Yeah, we're celebrating and looking forward to

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I think we're around the corner to realize John an

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exciting twenty twenty six. By the way, ladies and gentlemen,

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John O'Connor is the author of Postgate, How the Washington

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Post betrayed Deep Throat, covered up Watergate, and began today

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his partisan advocacy journalism. He served as an assistant US

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attorney in Northern California, representing the US in both criminal

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and civil cases. And so we want to get up

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to speed on you know, so much happening right now legally, John,

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with you know, the this week's SCOTUS hearings and all right.

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All right, right, that's one thing that's been happening since

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Trump was elected. Things are popping, uh, you know wherever weah.

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And meanwhile you get people, I mean some of the questions.

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I mean that we were dealing with it. It just

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seems so weird where America finds itself, John, that you

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know that we're having a senator talking to a doctor.

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H And I've got to assume she has some level

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of intelligence. But suddenly she goes crazy, he goes almost stupid,

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and can't you know, answer a simple question if a

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man can get pregnant?

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Huh, Well, that's right.

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And I think probably what flummoxter was the fact that, uh,

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since a woman who can get pregnant, can in her

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universe become a man right now now? Josh Holly did

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it did continuously reference biological males, and he was really saying,

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can a biological man get pregnant? And in which case

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the obvious answer is no. But she couldn't say that

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because it was just too politically incorrect to make a

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bold statement like that. So you're right, I mean, our

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society has gotten a little crazy when we're talking about

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this stuff.

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Well, and the fact that you even got the Supreme

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Court dealing with this issue of men playing in women's sports,

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and you know, can they men go into women's restrooms? John,

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I mean when you and I were growing up, we

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never thought that we'd come to this, did we.

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No?

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No, And it shows a really a real problem in

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our culture. And it comes really from from far left

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thinking in which there are no limits.

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To to the concepts they put forth, because that's the

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whole concept of progressive Everything should keep going and going

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and going in one direction, as opposed to seeking a balance,

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as you know Aristotle, might you know the Golden Mean

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and all things.

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No, if you're progressive.

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No, it's one thing to be tolerant of someone who

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has a different sexual orientation.

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Sure, that's great, that's one thing.

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That's another thing to say that a man is a woman,

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and even worse, that young people should have surgery to

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destroy it, to mutilate themselves. And so you think about

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how crazy that is. That's just crazy, Yeah, it really is.

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And the thing is about progressives. I mean, it's like

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they're falling off the cliff here and they can't help themselves. John,

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It's just like a bunch of lemmings, you know, they're

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just bound for destruction. And I guess reasonable people, I

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guess can just step back and you know, watch it happen.

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I mean, you try to warm them, but there's no warning.

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I mean, they're so ideologically fixed that you know their

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answer is, well, you know, you just don't understand because

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you don't have a degree from the same college that

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I have. And this is all nuanced, and you have

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to be progressively intellectual in order to understand and apprehend

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the nuance.

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Right right, So, for instance, Bill, you know, one of

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the ways you're again, and of course I am too,

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is that I think things like defund the police don't

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make any sense, but there are people that were actually

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they don't say it anymore, really, but defund the police

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is probably one of the dumbest things that's ever been said,

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you know, but yet people were seriously espousing that concept.

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I mean, well, so you can think, you know, and

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we can thank Minneapolis and they're back again. You know.

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I mentioned John that maybe Minneapolis hadn't you know, smelled

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the city burning in a long while, so they had to,

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you know, bring it back one more time, right.

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Right, Oh, exactly exactly.

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It's it's and that just shows you that there there

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are serious problems with our society. I don't know how

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you get the genie back in the bottle. Frankly right.

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Well, and here it is Minneapolis when they really need

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local police, uh, you know, to bring this under control.

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I mean I feel for the sheriff there. I mean

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he's handcuffed, uh and and you can see sometimes the

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look on his face like Okay, I gotta I gotta

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dance around this politically and defy common sense because lawman, know,

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you know what is common sense to go all the

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difference between law and order and what it does for

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the local community. And meanwhile, you've got the mayor and

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the governor, you know, blaming Ice for the chaos when

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it's you know, they need to look in the mirror.

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They're the ones that have promoted this chaos. If they

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don't want Ice there, it's simple, Ice will leave. Just

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turn over these people that you have in jail, hand

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them over to the Feds and let them be you know,

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taken out of the country. And you know, and guess what,

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you don't have all this craziness in the street, things burning,

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you know, citizens running into ice officers getting shot or

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or somebody else coming out with a you know, with

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a shovel to beat an ICE officer and get shot.

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I mean, this is just insanity, John Well, Bill, you

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brought up one thing there that really would cure everything.

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If you didn't have these folks doing sanctuary cities and

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sanctuary states, then you would have a method for only

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getting the worst the worst first is what a lot

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of people have common sense like. But if you have

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a sanctuary city, you don't turn over the worst that

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you're arresting. If you would simply use your local police

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enforcement as a way of helping ICE, ICE would have

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less work and they would have less of an imprint

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on your local fabric of life.

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So ICE could simply sit back and say, okay, sheriffs,

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when you find some bad guy, just hand him over

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to us and we'll take care of it.

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And he's not that bad, we may not do anything.

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But if he is bad, we'll deport him and that

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would solve all the problems. But no, this problem has

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been has arisen because they're not arresting the worst people.

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So now ICE has to come in and figure out

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who the worst people are. And they're not going to

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be They're not going to be right all the time

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when they stop people. Well, heck, heck, the local law

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enforcement can really help them out a lot. And by

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doing that to accomplish two things, make ICE's job easier

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and have less of an imprint on the local society.

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That's what they're complaining about. Oh Ice is invading. Well, yeah,

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they're invading because you all aren't doing your job right.

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And so that's that's the problem. And and and I

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don't know, it's a very easy solution, but they're you know,

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could you imagine though, if you're a politician. Minneapolis tried

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to suggest that, Yeah, I'll tell you what.

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Yeah, Well, I mean, anybody who blows the whistle on

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anything there, including all the fraud going on in Little Somalia,

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they're all canceled, all in the name of this sanctuary

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city and this progressive thought process. I mean, they've john

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they've institutionalized this insanity. It's a systemic issue. And then

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on top of it, that's not bad enough, it's like

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then they want the rest of us taxpayers to pay

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for the craziness.

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Well, that's right.

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And in one of the things that the many applis

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and Minnesota situations give forth is that we are giving

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federal money to these states, but with no control over

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the friends do not have control over these programs. So

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now we have crazy places like Minneapolis that are not

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enforcing laws that say, the heck with you, federal law enforcement.

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But we'll take your money and we'll decide, and we'll

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decide how to spend it and how to audit it

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and so forth. Oh, by the way, and if you

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come in and claim that we're defrauding the government, you're

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conspiracy theorists.

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You're just crazy right wing people.

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Well we are a bunch of racists. Hey, we've got

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Hey, as promise we're back with you. Bill Martinez here

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with John O'Connor. He's the legal analyst and author of Postgate,

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How the Washington Post betrayed Deep Throat, covered up Watergate,

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and began today's partisan advocacy journalism. John, as you were saying,

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you know law enforcement there locally, you know they're there

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in place to protect the citizens of the city. And

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you know, here they are, they've obliterated the constitution. It's

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almost like they've they've amended it on their own, on

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the fly, all under the guise of this sanctuary city complex.

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That's right, that's right, and that's and that harms everybody,

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is my point, because what happens is the immigrant that

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is law abiding and has worked hard at a restaurant

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for ten years. Yeah, that person now may feel threatened

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by ICE. I understand that. But if the city were

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really cooperative with the Feds, probably no one would. People

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would ignore that ten year guy that's paying his taxes.

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I'm not saying that's right, but it doesn't offend me.

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I want to get rid of the bad guys first.

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I mean, there are millions. There are twenty million people

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in this schedule that should be here, and probably you

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know there's a million of them that aren't good people.

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I'd like to see those people get out first. But

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they are not helping anybody. And and and really built

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it's it's actually very close to a crime.

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Yes, a common law.

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There was a thing called misprisoning felons. That means you

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do not help law enforcement.

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You're harboring. You're harboring, yeah, felons, right, basically what they're going, Yeah.

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That's right, they're harboring felons. And and uh and that

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is a federal crime.

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Harboring.

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The misprisoning is a common law felony, but harboring is

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a federal felony. And there really any assistance you give

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to a someone you know is.

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A fugitive is harboring. You don't have to have them

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in your house.

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Uh, but for instance, that judge who did who helped

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that microant escape out the back door, that's harbor.

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Scott, Yeah, exactly.

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Yeah.

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I mean I used to prosecute these cases with known

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terrorists and everybody thought, oh, it's terrible, you're helping a terrorist.

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Well, you know, the same concept applies here.

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Yeah. Well, well justice was exercised in that case with

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that judge. You know, she's gone to jail and she

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resigned and uh you know it was going to be impeached,

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I guess anyway. But you know that's justice, and more

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of that needs to occourage on. And that's the problem

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that we have in our society today is uh, you know,

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we've got a long list of people evading justice and

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It frustrates the electorate because they say, why should I

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care whistleblowers? Why should I say anything? Because they just

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turn a blind eye. And meanwhile I get I get

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beat up, I lose my job, I put my uh

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my family's welfare in jeopardy.

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Right, oh right, right, you'll be you'll be targeted. But

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like I say, all of that, well that's that's another thing.

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What are you doing when you do that?

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I mean you're you're actually obstructing justice, You're intimidate, hitting witnesses.

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I mean, all of this really, uh could be could

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be resolved by prosecuting these people. Uh they're not they're

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just photographing Ice. They're there to obstruct Dice. And it's

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very clear, uh from their messaging that they're there there

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really to make ICE's job harder.

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Well, you know that's a crime.

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Uh, And so I really think that, uh, some of

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these people should be prosecuted. Now it's going to be difficult,

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of course to get convictions in a place like Minnesota,

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but nonetheless it ought to be done.

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I'd make it painful. I mean, if there's no pain, uh,

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you know, they're going to continue to blow their whistles,

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obstruct use their cars as ramming devices and on and on.

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You know, they broke into uh I guess an office

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or something and pulled out some information where I was

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just watching that where you know, they've accessed some ammunitions

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about maybe even a gun, they said, but also some

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official documents, uh, you know, regarding charges against other you know,

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illegal immigrants and on and on. I mean there, it's

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beyond obstruction. I mean, it's just flat out I don't know, John, Uh,

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there's got to be a stronger word, like, you know,

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tyranny or sedition or something.

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Well, in that case you're talking about, that's that's the

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government of government property.

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That's one thing it is.

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There's probably uh some you know, some breaking and entering.

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Involved that's illegal.

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Uh.

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But that's the problem.

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There's so much of this is is illegal and should

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be uh and should be prosecuted.

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And the governor and the mayor are basically promoting this

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kind of behavior with their rhetoric.

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John, Well, that's that's the other thing that's.

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That's now deemed noble and and it gets back to

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one of my pet peeves, which is that the media

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is complicit in all this when when remember, well let's

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go back to Minneapolis burning with the George Floyd stuff.

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What what happens?

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Kamala Harris comes out and says, Oh, I'm gonna have

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a bail fund for all these people. I'm gonna help

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them get out of jail. I'm gonna support him. Well,

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the media says, oh, you're a wonderful verson, Kamalo, what

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a wonderful thing to do, you know, help people burn

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down the city. Well, you know, uh so you have

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a media that says that's okay, now.

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Yeah, from a farmer, from a former Attorney general for

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the state of California, John right, she does this.

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Yeah.

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So so meanwhile, meanwhile, if people are in Washington on

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January sixth, oh, they're terrible people. The media will will

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leap on that, probably decessively so.

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And of course I don't I know anything any breaking

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of anything that Jay six thinks.

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There's some bad most of them are not. But but

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but the press then goes overboard the other way and says,

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anybody who's in Washington protests in election is just crazy.

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They're an election denier. Well no, that's called free speech.

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But but some of this is my point is it

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comes from the media who to a certain degree are

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enforces of our public morals. They should be enforces of

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our public morals.

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Yeah, uh, it's it's greatly disappointing, and that's why we're

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in the mess we're in right now. John, I did

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want to talk to you about, you know, this indictment

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on on on the Fed share, uh, you know, regarding

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it seems to be the focus is the uh, the

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renovation of headquarters there that is surpassing two and a

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half billion dollars. Who Donald Trump as a builder, looked

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at that, and of course he has comparisons where he saved, uh,

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you know, he saved a lot of money, because the

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guy knows what he's doing. But you've got Pal and

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his constituents just spending money hand over fist, and this

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thing is uh, you know, it's rather suspicious, and I guess, uh,

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you know, there's pressure on him and he's in the

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crosshairs now right.

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Right right.

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They're probably not the prosecution won't go anywhere because the

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charges that he lied to Congress, and for various reasons,

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even though he may have been emphasizing too much the

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moderation of what he's doing, they're not going to be

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able to get them directly online.

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But it's a good it's a good thing to bring up.

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But again, what Pale is doing is really somewhat similar

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to what all the bureaucrats do when you have public money.

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And this is what Adam Smith says.

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When you have public money to be given out supposedly

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for a public purpose, guess what. Guess what, the people

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tend to spend that money on private good, not for

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the public good. And that's what happened. To have a

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big budget, why not spend two and a half billion

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on making your headquarters in this wonderful place.

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And that's what's really happening.

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It's it's an endemic of all government spending, really, and

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it's too.

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Bad that that's so, you know, that's all I can say.

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There is this a little bit of added pressure, unpaled

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and maybe exit sooner.

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Well, you know what I'm afraid of is that it

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may have just the opposite effect. That is to say,

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he can stay on two more years after his chairmanship

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is up in May, his governor's term goes two more years. Now,

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normally a chairman when he resigns does not go back

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and become low the governor as a governor, which is

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still a pretty elevated position. But Poal just made dig

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his heels in and say I'm going to stay. So

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some of this clearly embarrasses PAL, and I think it's

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a good thing. By the way, I think it's a

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good thing that we hold all government officials to account

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and to potential embarrassment if they are not taking steps

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to do what they should do to preserve public moneyes now,

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so to a certain degree, this is good for every

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every public servant. But I just wondered, now, the other

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thing about it is if you if PAL is pressured

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to reduce current rates lower than heat than is wise,

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that might have the bad effect of actually raising the

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ten year rates because there might be an expectation of inflation.

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The bond market might react to it poorly and raise

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the tenure, which is the rate that people pay for mortgages.

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So you have to watch out here for you know,

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for unintended consequences.

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Exactly.

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Yeah, I mean, I love trum. Trump is always active.

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He's doing twenty things at once, and sometimes you know

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he you know, he'll have his heart's in the right place,

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but he's going about it wrong. And I want interest

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rates to come down too. But I would like to

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see that happen because of economic fundamentals being put in line.

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Yeah, I'm with you on that. John O'Connor has been

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our guest, the legal analyst, author of Postgate, How the

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Washington Post betrayed deep throat John. As always, we appreciate

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the time. Take care, Happy New Year, my friend, Bill,

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take care see you.

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Welcome back to America, Bill Martinez. Here we've got the

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Manhattan based Fox News contributed to Roy Murdoch with us

520
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ad Toray.

521
00:29:46.599 --> 00:29:48.599
Good morning, Hey Bill, How are you good to talk

522
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to you?

523
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Hey?

524
00:29:49.119 --> 00:29:51.400
Always good? Lots of things to catch up on real quick.

525
00:29:51.880 --> 00:29:56.920
Just to address all things Greenland and you and I

526
00:29:57.000 --> 00:30:01.079
are sharing the same type of motion over this. I

527
00:30:01.079 --> 00:30:04.880
think sometimes as much as we like the many things

528
00:30:04.920 --> 00:30:06.920
that Trump has done, every once in a while, I

529
00:30:06.960 --> 00:30:10.319
mean his rhetoric goes, you know, can go overboard, and

530
00:30:10.359 --> 00:30:13.039
it's tough because then you know, it's kind of like

531
00:30:13.640 --> 00:30:15.759
I'll never forget in that one town hall meeting with

532
00:30:15.799 --> 00:30:18.880
the gal talking to Barack Obama saying, can you make

533
00:30:18.880 --> 00:30:21.559
it a little bit easier? Sometimes it's difficult to defend you.

534
00:30:22.880 --> 00:30:26.160
Yeah, No, this is true. Absolutely. Look, I agree that

535
00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:28.599
with what President Trump has said that we don't want

536
00:30:28.720 --> 00:30:31.680
to rush in China to take over Greenland. It's very

537
00:30:31.680 --> 00:30:34.240
strategically located. There are a lot of minerals there, there's

538
00:30:34.279 --> 00:30:36.960
a lot of I think maybe rare Earth's is all

539
00:30:37.039 --> 00:30:39.319
very important. And I'm a thousand percent in favor of

540
00:30:39.559 --> 00:30:41.039
working out some kind of a deal where we can

541
00:30:41.079 --> 00:30:43.720
put in US bases, we can put NATO bases, we

542
00:30:43.759 --> 00:30:46.400
can have every ten miles there is another baseball as

543
00:30:46.480 --> 00:30:49.920
the US to NATO, to Germany, France, Italy, whatever you want,

544
00:30:50.119 --> 00:30:53.160
but this and relentless talk about well we're going to

545
00:30:53.200 --> 00:30:57.160
grab it. We're not ruling out military takeover. We want

546
00:30:57.200 --> 00:30:59.119
this to be ours. I mean, we don't talk to

547
00:30:59.160 --> 00:31:03.680
our friends that way, and then denigrating the Danes and

548
00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:06.160
mocking them and others and saying, well, you know, I

549
00:31:06.200 --> 00:31:07.920
don't know if we can rely on NATO to come

550
00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:10.680
to our defense. In fact, the only time I believe

551
00:31:10.680 --> 00:31:13.359
it's Article five, I remember it correctly, that says attack

552
00:31:13.440 --> 00:31:15.519
on one NATO members, attack on all NATO members. The

553
00:31:15.559 --> 00:31:17.519
only time that's ever been invoked was after the September

554
00:31:17.519 --> 00:31:20.240
eleventh attacks in the United States, and NATO invoked it,

555
00:31:20.359 --> 00:31:23.279
and sure enough, the NATO countries all stepped up, and

556
00:31:23.319 --> 00:31:25.759
they went into Afghanistan. And this now, we obviously, being

557
00:31:25.799 --> 00:31:28.960
the world's largest superpower, did most heavy lifting, but all

558
00:31:29.000 --> 00:31:31.400
twenty eight NATO countries at the time had troops of

559
00:31:31.400 --> 00:31:34.640
one kind or another in Afghanistan helping our mission there.

560
00:31:34.680 --> 00:31:36.680
So they in fact did step up. And so for

561
00:31:36.720 --> 00:31:38.839
Trump to come in and saying, oh, well, they'll never

562
00:31:38.839 --> 00:31:40.640
back us, we need help, it's just a terrible thing

563
00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:43.400
to say. There's no reason to slap our allies and

564
00:31:43.400 --> 00:31:45.440
our friends around like this. If he wants to talk

565
00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:48.240
that way, the Iranians, great, talk to Venezuela, and Venezuela's

566
00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:51.359
the remnants of the Maduro regime wonderful. We want to

567
00:31:51.359 --> 00:31:53.599
talk to Chinese and Russians that way, that's fine, but

568
00:31:54.039 --> 00:31:56.799
talking to our all our friends and our treaty allies

569
00:31:56.839 --> 00:31:59.680
like that is terrible. So you know, I support the

570
00:31:59.720 --> 00:32:03.279
idea increasing our military role in our presence in Greenland,

571
00:32:03.279 --> 00:32:06.839
but this whole this kind of battlefield rhetoric, in this

572
00:32:08.039 --> 00:32:11.000
sort of bombastic in order to grab it, including under

573
00:32:11.000 --> 00:32:13.839
military conditions, completely in appropriate. I we should stop that.

574
00:32:13.880 --> 00:32:15.400
I think it's very, very destructive.

575
00:32:15.920 --> 00:32:17.599
No, I agree with you, and you're right, it's Article

576
00:32:17.680 --> 00:32:21.200
five and nine to eleven only once, so you know,

577
00:32:21.279 --> 00:32:23.000
when you need them, you need them. And look what

578
00:32:23.119 --> 00:32:25.079
happened after nine to eleven. I mean we went in.

579
00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:28.640
It was you know, quite the you know, quite the

580
00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:31.839
agreement and support that was there with the NATO nations

581
00:32:31.839 --> 00:32:36.000
and it actually lived up to its charter. You may

582
00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:39.599
argue like now, which you know Trump has been trying

583
00:32:39.640 --> 00:32:42.599
to do, and to give them a vision and understanding

584
00:32:42.640 --> 00:32:46.200
that they need to be more participative and make sure

585
00:32:46.240 --> 00:32:49.160
that they're you know, they're carrying their fair weight. And

586
00:32:49.200 --> 00:32:54.000
I think that's positive. But you know, talking in a

587
00:32:54.039 --> 00:32:56.960
way that I believe, like you say that it's disrespectful

588
00:32:56.960 --> 00:33:01.400
towards our allies. You know, I'm with you. I think

589
00:33:02.200 --> 00:33:05.160
sometimes he just gets a little overboard with his rhetoric.

590
00:33:05.839 --> 00:33:07.240
Yeah, and it doesn't do any good. And all it

591
00:33:07.240 --> 00:33:10.039
does is reinforce the left notion that always a king,

592
00:33:10.079 --> 00:33:12.279
he's a dictator, is a fascist, blah blah blah, and

593
00:33:12.319 --> 00:33:14.960
it just gives it. Puts more gasoline into a tank,

594
00:33:15.400 --> 00:33:17.599
saying that tank run empty to let them, you know,

595
00:33:17.880 --> 00:33:19.440
sit on the side of the road unable to move.

596
00:33:19.920 --> 00:33:21.599
This just propels them and gets them back on the

597
00:33:21.599 --> 00:33:24.839
streets and gets some writing donation checks and getting fired up.

598
00:33:24.839 --> 00:33:30.079
And it's completely totally unproductive and totally totally counterproductive.

599
00:33:30.119 --> 00:33:33.079
Indeed, I think, yeah, without it, especially when you've got

600
00:33:33.119 --> 00:33:36.079
so many wins in your back. I mean, he has

601
00:33:36.160 --> 00:33:40.759
been doing such a great job in many ways here,

602
00:33:40.799 --> 00:33:43.960
and there's lots of things to get excited about, you know,

603
00:33:44.039 --> 00:33:47.720
with the economy and what he's doing for under other countries,

604
00:33:47.759 --> 00:33:50.880
and how many peace deals he's been able to work

605
00:33:50.880 --> 00:33:54.599
out in his first year. Wow, this has been a

606
00:33:54.640 --> 00:33:57.400
successful year. And of course it's all being you know,

607
00:33:57.480 --> 00:33:59.799
crowned with the success with the stock market.

608
00:34:01.160 --> 00:34:02.519
Yeah, this is true, and you know, there are a

609
00:34:02.559 --> 00:34:04.240
lot of wins, and you know, there was some talk

610
00:34:04.319 --> 00:34:07.519
not very long about maybe giving him the Nobel Peace Prize. Well,

611
00:34:07.599 --> 00:34:09.599
you know, I'd love seeing get the Nobel Peace Prize for

612
00:34:09.800 --> 00:34:14.719
bringing peace to Thailand and Cambodia and keeping Indian Pakistan

613
00:34:14.719 --> 00:34:16.159
f for blowing each other up. So those are all

614
00:34:16.199 --> 00:34:19.159
big wins. But then you have this kind of very

615
00:34:19.639 --> 00:34:22.480
bellicose rhetoric towards your own allies, and people think, wow,

616
00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:24.199
so much for the Nobel Peace Prize. That goes out

617
00:34:24.239 --> 00:34:27.519
the window. Not helpful. And you, as you say, we've

618
00:34:27.519 --> 00:34:29.960
had a I think we're having a downtown the financial

619
00:34:29.960 --> 00:34:32.880
markets today, but generally speaking, they're either add urn air

620
00:34:32.960 --> 00:34:36.199
record levels. We've the Dow broke a couple of records

621
00:34:36.239 --> 00:34:38.159
when it hit about the forty nine thousand mark, give

622
00:34:38.239 --> 00:34:40.719
or take, and all that is definitely up since you

623
00:34:40.920 --> 00:34:43.000
arrived just just Shive a year ago.

624
00:34:43.559 --> 00:34:46.360
Yeah, and I think maybe the market may be reacting

625
00:34:46.400 --> 00:34:49.760
because of the dubiousness of the you know, of the

626
00:34:49.800 --> 00:34:52.400
tariffs and the decision from Scotus that I think we're

627
00:34:52.440 --> 00:34:54.840
still as of right now when we're recording this, we

628
00:34:54.960 --> 00:34:58.000
have not received an update as to their decision on

629
00:34:58.039 --> 00:34:58.840
the tariffs, right.

630
00:34:59.760 --> 00:35:01.320
Yeah, we're so waiting to hear what they say. The

631
00:35:01.400 --> 00:35:03.599
thought was it was going to be the decision would

632
00:35:03.599 --> 00:35:06.119
be coming sometime this week, but you know, it could

633
00:35:06.159 --> 00:35:08.320
happen this week, It could happen as late as at

634
00:35:08.320 --> 00:35:11.119
the end of June. Now they're under no obligation issue

635
00:35:11.320 --> 00:35:13.400
of ruling any time until they're ready, and they couldn't

636
00:35:13.400 --> 00:35:15.559
be taking the sweet time about it, or they more

637
00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:16.960
could come out, you know, any minute.

638
00:35:16.960 --> 00:35:17.119
Now.

639
00:35:17.119 --> 00:35:19.679
We just don't know, and there's a lot of there's

640
00:35:19.679 --> 00:35:21.360
a lot writing on it. I mean a lot of

641
00:35:21.360 --> 00:35:23.800
it is just the sheer uncertainty of not knowing whether

642
00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:26.199
they'll say, yep, the president has the tariff power that

643
00:35:26.239 --> 00:35:28.119
he's exercised or hope he doesn't. He has to go

644
00:35:28.119 --> 00:35:30.039
to Congress every time he wants to raise or lower

645
00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:33.239
a tariff rate. And so consequently people don't know, gee,

646
00:35:33.239 --> 00:35:36.519
should I invest because the president has you know, steel

647
00:35:36.559 --> 00:35:39.159
tariffs that make it up the number you know, ten

648
00:35:39.239 --> 00:35:42.000
dollars a ton or whatever, or is it going to

649
00:35:42.039 --> 00:35:43.960
get cut or we'll go back to what it was before.

650
00:35:44.119 --> 00:35:46.480
If the tariff power is thrown out, does that mean

651
00:35:46.519 --> 00:35:48.159
that all the people who paid tariffs are going to

652
00:35:48.159 --> 00:35:51.000
get refunds, which costs hundreds of billions of dollars. So

653
00:35:51.079 --> 00:35:52.880
these are all question marks. It's very hard to make

654
00:35:52.920 --> 00:35:55.960
any kind of a an economic decision or a business

655
00:35:56.000 --> 00:35:57.800
decision with a bunch of question marks. You know, you

656
00:35:57.840 --> 00:35:59.519
can put a question mark in a spreadsheet and guess

657
00:35:59.559 --> 00:36:02.639
what he doesn't give you total that just sits there. Now,

658
00:36:02.880 --> 00:36:04.559
ask you back, okay, what do you want me to do? Now?

659
00:36:04.719 --> 00:36:08.519
That's no way to run a single company or frankly, entire.

660
00:36:08.400 --> 00:36:11.719
Economy, right exactly. And the thing is I've been saying,

661
00:36:11.880 --> 00:36:14.159
you know for a while here that I hope that

662
00:36:14.199 --> 00:36:18.119
Trump had plan be ready to go because if the

663
00:36:18.199 --> 00:36:20.760
decision from Scotus comes out in a way that's not

664
00:36:21.760 --> 00:36:25.440
advantageous for his position as the commander in chief and

665
00:36:25.480 --> 00:36:29.199
the one that's negotiated all these deals, then you know,

666
00:36:29.480 --> 00:36:33.760
can Congress pick up the ball and act in more

667
00:36:33.800 --> 00:36:37.199
with a sense of urgency then they, you know, traditionally

668
00:36:37.239 --> 00:36:37.679
have acted.

669
00:36:38.480 --> 00:36:40.199
Well that's true. I mean, if let's say this, the

670
00:36:40.239 --> 00:36:42.400
Supreme Court says, now the presidents have the power to

671
00:36:42.440 --> 00:36:45.719
adjust terrafs, you know, will the Congress have to pass

672
00:36:45.960 --> 00:36:48.400
you know, one one different bill every time that we

673
00:36:48.440 --> 00:36:51.280
want to put pressure on country air country, b will

674
00:36:51.320 --> 00:36:54.599
it be just one flat across the board teriff for

675
00:36:54.599 --> 00:36:57.519
every country? You know is you know, Congress doesn't move

676
00:36:57.599 --> 00:37:00.960
very quickly, and things things get it on and it

677
00:37:01.000 --> 00:37:04.039
turns every built term Christmas tree. So you know, how's

678
00:37:04.079 --> 00:37:06.039
that going to work? And then especially you know, part

679
00:37:06.039 --> 00:37:07.639
of what Trump has done is to try to get

680
00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:11.000
very rapid responses from countries. May recall very early in

681
00:37:11.039 --> 00:37:14.840
his presidency he wanted this nation of Columbia to take

682
00:37:14.880 --> 00:37:19.800
back a bunch of basically illegal criminals. And President Petro

683
00:37:19.880 --> 00:37:21.840
of Columbia said, no, I don't want them. You keep them.

684
00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:25.760
And Trump said, okay, every henceforth, every Columbian product has

685
00:37:25.800 --> 00:37:27.599
I think at twenty or twenty five percent tariff on it.

686
00:37:28.239 --> 00:37:30.679
Petro got back on the phone, I think that day

687
00:37:30.760 --> 00:37:32.639
or the next day at the latest, I said, okay,

688
00:37:33.000 --> 00:37:34.719
you know, we want our people who want them to

689
00:37:34.760 --> 00:37:36.880
return indignity, dignity. So I'm going to send my own

690
00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:39.679
presidential plane, the Air Force one of Columbia to pick

691
00:37:39.719 --> 00:37:41.920
these guys up and bring them back. So he got

692
00:37:41.960 --> 00:37:44.159
that message, and we got what we wanted about forty

693
00:37:44.159 --> 00:37:46.400
eight hours. I don't think Congress ever could move that quickly.

694
00:37:46.800 --> 00:37:49.599
Even they did. Yeah, it would be you know, at

695
00:37:49.679 --> 00:37:52.719
best a few weeks and worse months.

696
00:37:52.760 --> 00:37:56.840
Especially with the craziness of the Democrats, I mean their loans.

697
00:37:56.920 --> 00:37:59.239
I mean, they don't want a reason. They can't look

698
00:37:59.239 --> 00:38:02.159
at the bigger pitch because their bigger picture is all

699
00:38:02.199 --> 00:38:05.280
about the midterms. Anything that they can do to kneecap

700
00:38:05.360 --> 00:38:09.639
Trump and undermine any kind of Republican success for their

701
00:38:09.679 --> 00:38:13.559
political advantage, that's what's more important to them, not not

702
00:38:13.679 --> 00:38:14.719
the American people.

703
00:38:16.039 --> 00:38:18.599
Yeah, well, you know, at best they're thinking strategically about

704
00:38:18.599 --> 00:38:21.239
the midterms. At worst, it's just pure Trump arrangement syndrome.

705
00:38:21.239 --> 00:38:23.320
Trump is for it, so we're against it. So you know,

706
00:38:23.360 --> 00:38:25.920
Trump says, hey, we want to get the uh, get

707
00:38:25.920 --> 00:38:28.000
the bad guys out of the US to sent it

708
00:38:28.039 --> 00:38:29.519
back to Columbia. Oh, we like to We like the

709
00:38:29.559 --> 00:38:31.559
mad guys that clembic keep me here. Why are attacking

710
00:38:31.559 --> 00:38:34.159
those people? So you know, if if Trump said he's

711
00:38:34.199 --> 00:38:38.039
for uh making clean water available poor they said, we're

712
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giving water, you know, watch, give fine coffee, send the milk.

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Whatever he says there against I mean, ipso facto. And

714
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that's there's star criticism in some areas and a lot

715
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of this is just pure and Saturday. I mean, it's pure, pure,

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out right psychosis.

717
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Well, of course they're absolutely nuts, because the big beautiful

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bill is starting to kick in and probably by the

719
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end of first quarter the start of second quarter, Deroy,

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all those beautiful benefits are going to be real. And

721
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as he says, affordability will really will be owned by

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the Republican Party because they had the wherewithal to support

723
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the ID in concept affordability. The Democrats can only talk affordability,

724
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but they don't have anything to show. In fact, the

725
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reason that affordability became an issue is because of the

726
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policies that Joe Biden and the Democrats enacted.

727
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Yeah, well, it was the massive spending on the part

728
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of Joe Biden and the American Recovery Actor that was

729
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called and followed by the inflation so called Inflation Reduction Act,

730
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but fueled inflation ran as high as I think it

731
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was nine point two percent. I think it finally hit

732
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back then. I think it was I think it was

733
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June twenty twenty two if I remember the dates correctly.

734
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It's come down now, but it's still higher than we'd like.

735
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But this was all fueled by so much extra necessary,

736
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uncalled for spending, and these people still want to spend

737
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even more money. I just saw something the other day.

738
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This also ties into the big fraud in Minnesota Center Barosso,

739
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Wyoming to put out that Center Warner is a Democrat

740
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in Virginia wanted to remove some kind of anti fraud

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provisions or related to welfare spending, and so there you got.

742
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The Democrats try to make it easy to commit more fraud.

743
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Hey, we're back with you, Bill Martinez here with Roy Murdoch,

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the Manhattan based Fox News contributor, Droy. As you were saying,

827
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I mean Elizabeth Warren and the rest of the Marxist

828
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socialists of the Democratic Party, I mean they're totally unhinged.

829
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I mean, you know here, we know again this is

830
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on the heels of Elon Musk showing everybody that, yes,

831
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you're exactly right. Fraud in corruption is rampant. He was committed.

832
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He said, I could discover at least a trillion dollars,

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might even two trillion dollars. And the Democrat this boy,

834
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they circled the wagons, did everything they could to interfere

835
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and all bitar and feather this poor guy for what

836
00:45:06.320 --> 00:45:09.239
trying to do good by, you know, by the American people.

837
00:45:10.280 --> 00:45:12.880
Well, yeah, that's correct. And I saw some figures from

838
00:45:13.159 --> 00:45:15.840
Treasury Secretary Scott Best at the other day, and I

839
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don't have them in front of me if I remember

840
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them correctly, with something like he said, we spent approximately

841
00:45:20.679 --> 00:45:23.880
a trillion dollars a year in welfare money to help

842
00:45:24.119 --> 00:45:27.639
the poor and disadvantage, and every year we've got something

843
00:45:27.760 --> 00:45:29.119
in the range of two hundred two I think it

844
00:45:29.119 --> 00:45:31.840
was two hudred and twenty five billion dollars in fraud.

845
00:45:31.880 --> 00:45:35.199
That means about twenty percent of the overall welfare expenditure

846
00:45:35.559 --> 00:45:37.480
goes up to fraud. Just stolen, these people are and

847
00:45:37.559 --> 00:45:39.400
then the thieves are stealing not from the rich, they're

848
00:45:39.519 --> 00:45:41.199
stealing from the poor. This is you know, robin hood

849
00:45:41.199 --> 00:45:44.800
and reverse and you know, perfect example of this and

850
00:45:45.119 --> 00:45:49.000
the shere ugliness of what we've seen in Minnesota with

851
00:45:49.079 --> 00:45:51.960
the fraud there. I believe we saw in between a

852
00:45:52.039 --> 00:45:55.360
twenty eighteen or so, they had about six I think

853
00:45:55.360 --> 00:45:57.239
it was the number is about six million dollars in

854
00:45:57.480 --> 00:46:00.280
spending for autistic kids that shot up to about one

855
00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:03.239
hundred and eighty million. And it turns out that that

856
00:46:03.440 --> 00:46:07.320
massive increase is basically fraud, people stealing from autistic children.

857
00:46:07.559 --> 00:46:09.800
I don't know if it gets any uglier than stealing

858
00:46:09.800 --> 00:46:12.920
from autistic children. This is just disgusting. And this is

859
00:46:12.920 --> 00:46:15.719
the oh where compassion we cares so much. You know,

860
00:46:15.760 --> 00:46:19.159
we're bleeding our hearts, bleed for the disadvantage and the

861
00:46:19.199 --> 00:46:22.119
downtrodden and the forgotten, and they overlooked. And yet you've

862
00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:24.599
got people who are stealing from autistic kids. And rather

863
00:46:24.639 --> 00:46:26.519
than standing up and saying, my god, this is horrible.

864
00:46:26.559 --> 00:46:28.599
We need to lock up those people who stole from

865
00:46:28.599 --> 00:46:31.559
the autistic kids, Democrats say, okay, there's nothing to see here.

866
00:46:32.199 --> 00:46:35.000
It's a conspiracy theory. Nick Sureley made it up. There's

867
00:46:35.000 --> 00:46:38.320
nothing going on. Everything you know, couldn't be better, and

868
00:46:38.400 --> 00:46:40.599
they're just sitting there, standing by, looking the other way

869
00:46:40.599 --> 00:46:44.599
as people steal from autistic children. The Democrats just can't

870
00:46:44.599 --> 00:46:47.960
get enough of it. It's absolutely stomach turning. And yet

871
00:46:48.000 --> 00:46:50.039
we on the right of the bad guys and supposing

872
00:46:50.079 --> 00:46:52.440
them on the left of the good guys. It's upside

873
00:46:52.440 --> 00:46:53.880
down line we're living in here.

874
00:46:53.920 --> 00:46:56.159
Well of course, and then it's not only us, but

875
00:46:56.199 --> 00:46:58.719
it's also Ice. And I believe the attack on Ice,

876
00:46:59.039 --> 00:47:02.159
everything that's going on now has more to do with

877
00:47:02.360 --> 00:47:07.320
this corruption that they're trying to deflect from because they

878
00:47:07.400 --> 00:47:10.400
are their hands are in the cookie jar, the crumbs

879
00:47:10.440 --> 00:47:13.519
are all over their faces, and they're claiming some sort

880
00:47:13.559 --> 00:47:16.880
of deniability over it all, or oh yeah, we did

881
00:47:16.920 --> 00:47:19.679
do something about it. But I mean, when you're talking

882
00:47:20.320 --> 00:47:23.679
what they're saying at least two hundred billion dollars of

883
00:47:23.719 --> 00:47:26.320
fraud and corruption, as if that's not bad enough, and

884
00:47:26.400 --> 00:47:29.039
all that a lot of that money going to support

885
00:47:29.039 --> 00:47:31.000
the Taliban. Are we nuts or what?

886
00:47:32.079 --> 00:47:34.320
Yeah? It's crazy. I mean they are these people in

887
00:47:34.719 --> 00:47:38.239
Minnesota who are running these leering remember the not learning

888
00:47:38.239 --> 00:47:42.719
but even spelling word of learning. And the money is

889
00:47:43.400 --> 00:47:46.519
being taken again from autistic kids. This is used for

890
00:47:46.760 --> 00:47:48.840
childcare for poor children, and some of this is used

891
00:47:48.840 --> 00:47:52.239
for healthcare for seniors, et cetera. Stealing this money and

892
00:47:52.239 --> 00:47:55.400
then they're turning around and we've discovered buying sports cars.

893
00:47:56.000 --> 00:47:58.639
One woman took the money to buy real estate in Kenya,

894
00:47:59.639 --> 00:48:02.840
and other kinds of luxury spending that you know are

895
00:48:03.000 --> 00:48:06.440
state and federal minute this coast to coast federal tax money.

896
00:48:06.440 --> 00:48:08.480
So it's not just the people in Minnesota being robbed.

897
00:48:08.480 --> 00:48:10.519
Every American across the country is being robbed because this

898
00:48:10.559 --> 00:48:13.920
includes federal money that was stolen. And then some of

899
00:48:13.920 --> 00:48:17.639
this money, we believe also is wired to Somalia to

900
00:48:17.639 --> 00:48:20.639
help out. I'll come bab to help out. Basically, an

901
00:48:20.719 --> 00:48:25.079
al Qaeda or isis related to Islamic extremist terrorist group

902
00:48:25.079 --> 00:48:26.840
and you can make this up. This is like something

903
00:48:26.840 --> 00:48:29.199
out of a really bad novel or some you know,

904
00:48:29.320 --> 00:48:33.159
ridiculous spy movie that would be would be kind of

905
00:48:33.159 --> 00:48:35.480
a farce or satire. If you put all these details in,

906
00:48:35.800 --> 00:48:38.199
you get this count this nonsense is going on. And again,

907
00:48:38.480 --> 00:48:40.199
if the Democrats said, look, you know, you're right, this

908
00:48:40.280 --> 00:48:42.199
is terrible. We can't believe we missed this. You're right.

909
00:48:42.199 --> 00:48:43.840
When you get the bottom of this, let's clean this up,

910
00:48:43.840 --> 00:48:45.800
that would be bad enough. But you know there's something there.

911
00:48:45.920 --> 00:48:49.559
It's a conspiracy theory, Nick Nick Shirley's lying, and it's

912
00:48:49.599 --> 00:48:51.679
all racist thing and it's some bigoted plot and blah

913
00:48:51.719 --> 00:48:55.280
blah blah, and they're they're not stepping up. And then

914
00:48:55.559 --> 00:48:58.719
I want of the defenses I hear people say, or

915
00:48:58.719 --> 00:49:00.840
I should say, the tax on Nick Sureley and other

916
00:49:00.840 --> 00:49:02.679
people who've pointed out this fraud as they'll say, well,

917
00:49:02.679 --> 00:49:04.639
there's no fraud there. Next yearly's making up in the

918
00:49:04.679 --> 00:49:08.159
next sentences. And by the way, we've already convicted people

919
00:49:08.440 --> 00:49:11.880
of fraud here, so there's no fraud. You know, Nick

920
00:49:11.880 --> 00:49:15.199
Suurley is making up the fraud. But here there's an

921
00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:17.679
old story because the fraud who has sixty sixty or

922
00:49:17.719 --> 00:49:20.880
so people convicted of this fraud already. And I think

923
00:49:21.239 --> 00:49:25.199
there's about six sixty people and take convicted, about ninety

924
00:49:25.280 --> 00:49:28.159
or so indicted. And I think of the people ninety

925
00:49:28.239 --> 00:49:31.559
or so people indicted of this situation Minnesota, I think

926
00:49:31.599 --> 00:49:33.679
something like about eighty eight eighty nine percent of them

927
00:49:33.719 --> 00:49:36.480
or Somali. So this is this is very very much

928
00:49:36.960 --> 00:49:43.599
centered on that particular population group again, right, And.

929
00:49:43.559 --> 00:49:45.480
You would think elan Omar, I mean, of course this

930
00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:50.920
is me, she'd be leading the investigation. But you know,

931
00:49:51.039 --> 00:49:53.960
all she is, she's out there spinning, you know, this

932
00:49:54.039 --> 00:49:56.639
whole deal, trying to protect I mean, how how do

933
00:49:56.719 --> 00:49:59.920
you protect and support this kind of theme.

934
00:50:02.119 --> 00:50:03.400
Well, the only way you can do it is if

935
00:50:03.400 --> 00:50:06.039
you think, gee, you know, we're willing to look the

936
00:50:06.119 --> 00:50:08.280
other way because we like the fact that the smally

937
00:50:08.320 --> 00:50:10.840
population in Minnesota is about one hundred thousand. Apparently they

938
00:50:10.880 --> 00:50:14.079
vote a blog and if you can count on, you know,

939
00:50:14.159 --> 00:50:15.960
rough one hundred thousand people, let's just say that they're

940
00:50:15.960 --> 00:50:18.400
all adults or only the adults are voting. So let's

941
00:50:18.400 --> 00:50:20.119
just make the number fifty thousand. If you know that

942
00:50:20.559 --> 00:50:23.800
any election statewide, you've got fifty thousand people voting for you,

943
00:50:23.920 --> 00:50:26.159
I mean most elections. If you have fifty thousand people

944
00:50:26.559 --> 00:50:29.360
in your pocket, you know, solidly for you, that could

945
00:50:29.400 --> 00:50:31.960
be the margin of victory for somebody running for governor,

946
00:50:32.000 --> 00:50:35.880
attorney general, lieutenant governor, or certainly a United States Senate.

947
00:50:35.920 --> 00:50:38.320
And so they kind of look the other way, and

948
00:50:38.360 --> 00:50:41.559
I guess they'd rather have these election wins than actually

949
00:50:41.559 --> 00:50:43.519
have an on a system where people are not stealing

950
00:50:43.559 --> 00:50:46.840
from the elderly, stealing from poor, and stealing from again

951
00:50:47.000 --> 00:50:49.920
autistic children. This is how disgusting the situation is. It's

952
00:50:49.920 --> 00:50:51.039
absolute stomach turning.

953
00:50:51.400 --> 00:50:53.920
Yeah, and it seems so obvious that this is systemic

954
00:50:54.239 --> 00:50:56.719
because you know, right now all eyes are in Minnesota.

955
00:50:56.800 --> 00:51:00.199
But you know, we've got a czar now that's going

956
00:51:00.239 --> 00:51:04.880
to focus on this and go from you know, sadly,

957
00:51:04.920 --> 00:51:08.199
I mean, it's the Blue states. It's these states that support,

958
00:51:08.719 --> 00:51:12.320
you know, sanctuary policies that are to me and an

959
00:51:12.320 --> 00:51:17.199
anathema of the constitution. How do you reconcile the sanctuary

960
00:51:17.519 --> 00:51:20.000
policies with our constitution? Deroy?

961
00:51:20.760 --> 00:51:22.280
Well, you don't. You know, we have something called the

962
00:51:22.280 --> 00:51:26.000
Federal Supremacy Clause that says federal law is supreme over

963
00:51:26.039 --> 00:51:29.480
state law, and if there's a conflict, unless there's a

964
00:51:29.559 --> 00:51:31.960
tenth Amendment situation, state law is supreme. But it's certainly

965
00:51:31.960 --> 00:51:33.880
in areas of criminal law and things like this. The

966
00:51:33.920 --> 00:51:35.719
states can't just say, hey, we're going to protect this

967
00:51:35.760 --> 00:51:37.800
person and they said, sorry, you can't come in and

968
00:51:37.840 --> 00:51:40.119
grab this person. We use the term sanctuary city. We

969
00:51:40.119 --> 00:51:42.800
really need to abandon that term because sanctuary has a

970
00:51:42.880 --> 00:51:47.039
very positive term. It sounds like sanctified and think of

971
00:51:47.039 --> 00:51:49.719
religious sanctuaries this sort of thing. I use the term fugitive.

972
00:51:49.800 --> 00:51:52.519
These are fugitive cities, these are fugitive states. They're keeping

973
00:51:52.519 --> 00:51:55.679
people who are fugitives from law and protecting them. And

974
00:51:55.719 --> 00:51:57.519
we need to stop using terms sanctuary and say these

975
00:51:57.519 --> 00:52:00.519
are fugitive cities, these are fugitive states. And the people

976
00:52:00.559 --> 00:52:03.960
who are taking care of these these criminals are basically

977
00:52:04.239 --> 00:52:07.599
harboring fugitives. And you harbor fugitive that's a federal violation.

978
00:52:07.719 --> 00:52:11.039
That's a violation of federal law and you can get

979
00:52:11.039 --> 00:52:12.760
in big trouble for that. And the people who are

980
00:52:12.800 --> 00:52:14.800
interfering with ICE as ICE tries to around up these

981
00:52:14.840 --> 00:52:17.880
these people, including some very very nasty, nasty thugs. They're

982
00:52:17.880 --> 00:52:21.679
basically engaging in obstruction of justice, uh and interfering with

983
00:52:21.679 --> 00:52:25.159
with with the federal law enforcement. That's not cute or funny.

984
00:52:25.159 --> 00:52:27.199
It's such as a protest, you can carry your signs

985
00:52:27.199 --> 00:52:29.800
around and sing songs and light candles, you know, as

986
00:52:29.800 --> 00:52:32.320
long as you want. But you start doing like this

987
00:52:32.880 --> 00:52:37.039
this woman, uh is good. Yeah, and the other day

988
00:52:37.400 --> 00:52:40.440
blocking our putting her carp perpendicularly in the street to

989
00:52:40.559 --> 00:52:44.159
keep the ice officers from doing their jobs. You know,

990
00:52:44.320 --> 00:52:46.840
that's that's not just protesting or having to sit in

991
00:52:47.039 --> 00:52:49.880
or singing some songs or whatever. This is interfering with

992
00:52:49.920 --> 00:52:52.519
federal law enforcement. This is a complete felony. This is

993
00:52:52.559 --> 00:52:55.119
a total violation of federal law. It's too bad she

994
00:52:55.159 --> 00:52:58.039
got shot, but you know she'd been just protesting peacefully,

995
00:52:58.079 --> 00:53:00.400
she would have put herself in a situation where you know,

996
00:53:00.480 --> 00:53:04.280
she's stepped on the accelerator, try to ramer car into

997
00:53:04.320 --> 00:53:07.119
an ice age and got shot in the face. Now

998
00:53:07.119 --> 00:53:09.519
she's dead as consequence. So I think we need to

999
00:53:09.559 --> 00:53:12.360
have a zero tolerance attitude towards these people are interfering

1000
00:53:12.360 --> 00:53:14.920
with federal law enforcement. Some of them are not just

1001
00:53:15.000 --> 00:53:18.039
standing in the way, they're actually throwing things, throwing objects

1002
00:53:18.039 --> 00:53:20.199
and throwing fireworks and other things in the faces of

1003
00:53:20.199 --> 00:53:23.039
these people. That is my new domestic terrorism is what

1004
00:53:23.079 --> 00:53:25.599
that is. And again the Democrat Party, rather than saying, hey,

1005
00:53:26.039 --> 00:53:28.559
be peaceful, keep it cool, over the temperature, they' out

1006
00:53:28.559 --> 00:53:31.000
there egging these people lodge, saying, you know, confront them

1007
00:53:31.000 --> 00:53:33.880
in the streets. And the Democratic Party has become basically

1008
00:53:34.679 --> 00:53:40.119
complicit with domestic terrorism. It's really, yeah, so far beyond

1009
00:53:40.320 --> 00:53:43.480
you know, your father or my parents or grandparents. A

1010
00:53:43.519 --> 00:53:46.199
Democrat Party, we're dealing with basically at almost a terrorist

1011
00:53:46.199 --> 00:53:47.440
type organization at this point.

1012
00:53:47.840 --> 00:53:51.840
Well, Jacob frey Fry doesn't want ice on the streets.

1013
00:53:52.159 --> 00:53:55.159
They had to cooperate with law enforcement. And then that

1014
00:53:55.199 --> 00:53:57.679
way they don't have to go, you know, from house

1015
00:53:57.679 --> 00:54:00.400
to house. You just turn over these people. I mean,

1016
00:54:00.400 --> 00:54:03.480
they're protecting, you know, the worst of the worst. I mean,

1017
00:54:03.480 --> 00:54:05.000
we're trying to get the worst of the worst out

1018
00:54:05.039 --> 00:54:08.880
and they are, to your point, you know, harboring, uh,

1019
00:54:09.079 --> 00:54:11.639
the worst of the worst, all in the name of

1020
00:54:11.880 --> 00:54:17.119
sanctuary cities. And then they are training their local citizenry

1021
00:54:17.199 --> 00:54:19.440
to become you know, these what do they call it

1022
00:54:19.519 --> 00:54:22.840
legal legal observers? What the heck is a legal observer,

1023
00:54:23.360 --> 00:54:26.320
and especially when you're interfering in this Gal Renee Good,

1024
00:54:26.320 --> 00:54:28.360
I mean she was, They've got her on tape. I

1025
00:54:28.360 --> 00:54:31.679
mean she was pretty much stalking, Uh, you know these

1026
00:54:31.719 --> 00:54:35.239
ICE officials throughout the day. This wasn't just one you know,

1027
00:54:35.360 --> 00:54:37.440
incidental you know confrontation.

1028
00:54:38.960 --> 00:54:41.079
Yeah, that's exactly correct. And to me, what the worst

1029
00:54:41.079 --> 00:54:44.039
thing about this is that we have this narrative that

1030
00:54:44.360 --> 00:54:48.559
people like as Good were out they're just trying to

1031
00:54:48.559 --> 00:54:50.960
protect these poor hard workers who just want to go

1032
00:54:51.000 --> 00:54:53.440
and do their jobs. And and there's ICE trying to

1033
00:54:53.440 --> 00:54:55.559
interfere with people who are just taking care of their kids.

1034
00:54:55.559 --> 00:54:59.800
And so I was an excellent piece by Bill Mallusion

1035
00:54:59.920 --> 00:55:02.960
is wonderful generalist here at Fox News. And Alexandra caught

1036
00:55:03.000 --> 00:55:05.559
your cocoa koc h mush i she pronounces it. They

1037
00:55:05.599 --> 00:55:07.599
got from ICE a list of the folks who have

1038
00:55:07.599 --> 00:55:10.159
been rounded up in Minnesota over the last few weeks.

1039
00:55:10.360 --> 00:55:12.800
They include some real delightful people, such as a man

1040
00:55:12.840 --> 00:55:16.320
the name of two Vang. He's a Laosian illegal immigrant.

1041
00:55:16.360 --> 00:55:18.760
He was convicted, not accused or and died with convicted

1042
00:55:19.000 --> 00:55:22.079
of sexual assault as sodomy of a girl, under age

1043
00:55:22.079 --> 00:55:25.480
of thirteen and procuring a child for prostitution. And we've

1044
00:55:25.519 --> 00:55:28.079
got another Laosian. I know the Laosians, for so many

1045
00:55:28.159 --> 00:55:29.920
of them in this country. Another one gay named gay

1046
00:55:29.960 --> 00:55:34.079
Yng Laosian illegal immigrant convicted of strong arm rape, aggravated

1047
00:55:34.119 --> 00:55:37.280
assault with the weapon and strangulation about that. And then

1048
00:55:37.360 --> 00:55:39.440
another guy here, let's say this is someone named Herman

1049
00:55:39.920 --> 00:55:43.280
Cortes Valencia. He was a convictive of sexual assault of

1050
00:55:43.320 --> 00:55:46.480
a child in Duy. He's had a detainer out for

1051
00:55:46.519 --> 00:55:49.880
him for deportation since twenty sixteen, that's nine years. And

1052
00:55:49.920 --> 00:55:52.239
these are murders. There's another person here, I'm just here,

1053
00:55:52.559 --> 00:55:55.400
a dosch Elmi who is a Smalion illegal immigrant. He

1054
00:55:55.519 --> 00:55:58.800
was convicted of homicide. So these are just five and

1055
00:55:58.800 --> 00:56:01.239
then about a dozen examples of this in this article.

1056
00:56:01.440 --> 00:56:03.440
And again these are not people who are just okay,

1057
00:56:03.519 --> 00:56:06.079
well illegal about These people are just trying to busy,

1058
00:56:06.119 --> 00:56:07.719
trying to get busy and go to work.

1059
00:56:07.480 --> 00:56:08.280
And do whatever work.

1060
00:56:08.760 --> 00:56:11.320
These are people they do do your lawn or are

1061
00:56:11.880 --> 00:56:13.760
you know, do the cleaning in the hotels, you.

1062
00:56:13.760 --> 00:56:17.440
Know, for your job. These people are drug drivers, These

1063
00:56:17.440 --> 00:56:20.039
people are child rapists. These people are trying to run,

1064
00:56:20.320 --> 00:56:25.280
child prostitution and murderers. These are vicious, horrible, violent wars

1065
00:56:25.360 --> 00:56:27.960
and the worst disgusting criminals. And what Ice is trying

1066
00:56:28.000 --> 00:56:30.920
to do. And by the way, illegal immigrants and illegal aliens,

1067
00:56:30.920 --> 00:56:32.800
most of them. Round them up and get them out

1068
00:56:32.800 --> 00:56:35.719
of this country. And what's the Democrat Party's response, Oh,

1069
00:56:35.800 --> 00:56:37.960
leave them alone, leave them here so they can continue

1070
00:56:37.960 --> 00:56:40.719
to rape children and kill people. I mean, the Democrat

1071
00:56:40.800 --> 00:56:43.159
Party has become the party of child rape and the

1072
00:56:43.199 --> 00:56:47.719
party of homicide. It's unbelievable how much bloodshed the Democrat

1073
00:56:47.760 --> 00:56:50.840
Party is busy protecting and the people who the people

1074
00:56:50.880 --> 00:56:53.800
who perpetrate these vicious crimes. I mean, this has become

1075
00:56:53.840 --> 00:56:57.840
the party that either excuses or winks at or apologizes

1076
00:56:58.159 --> 00:57:01.719
for fraud, for child ape, and for homicide. That's what

1077
00:57:01.760 --> 00:57:04.920
the Democrat Party's agendas has become today.

1078
00:57:04.320 --> 00:57:07.360
Exactly, and what voter wants to be under those ten pegs, right.

1079
00:57:08.119 --> 00:57:09.960
I would think voters would look at this and turn

1080
00:57:10.000 --> 00:57:13.840
their turn their backs, turn their their backs, and upturn

1081
00:57:13.920 --> 00:57:17.039
their stomach frankly at today's Democrat Party. I mean, I

1082
00:57:17.079 --> 00:57:19.079
don't know why these guys win any elections. This is

1083
00:57:19.119 --> 00:57:21.239
not just the party about Okay, We're going to raise

1084
00:57:21.239 --> 00:57:22.679
taxes a little bit and help out the poor and

1085
00:57:22.920 --> 00:57:24.840
help out the downtrot. I wish that they go back to,

1086
00:57:25.159 --> 00:57:27.079
you know, the old tax spend party. Could you could

1087
00:57:27.159 --> 00:57:29.480
you know, do some business. Those people try to, you know,

1088
00:57:29.760 --> 00:57:32.199
talk some sensitive This party is well beyond that. This

1089
00:57:32.239 --> 00:57:34.719
is this is a party that sees people engaged in

1090
00:57:34.800 --> 00:57:37.199
child rape and child prostitution. Or rather than saying round

1091
00:57:37.199 --> 00:57:39.840
them up and get them out the responsible these people alone.

1092
00:57:40.079 --> 00:57:42.079
Why are you bothering them? Why are you are asking

1093
00:57:42.079 --> 00:57:44.000
our neighbors let them go back to raping kids, that's

1094
00:57:44.000 --> 00:57:46.159
what we want them to do. It's just again, I

1095
00:57:46.800 --> 00:57:49.000
read these things, I'm like, oh, it's April Fool's Day.

1096
00:57:49.039 --> 00:57:51.119
Somebody's making this up. Nope, not made up. This is

1097
00:57:51.159 --> 00:57:54.519
actually there. And Bill MILUSI article by Alexander KOs H

1098
00:57:54.639 --> 00:57:57.559
Kocher Coke and Bill Mallusion. It was Fox news dot

1099
00:57:57.559 --> 00:58:00.199
Com on January tenth. I commend this article of theeople

1100
00:58:00.239 --> 00:58:02.320
and it's epsy heroism stuff.

1101
00:58:03.039 --> 00:58:06.960
Well, like you've said before, Deroy, in addition to all this,

1102
00:58:07.119 --> 00:58:12.880
the reason that somehow people are still electing Democrats is

1103
00:58:12.920 --> 00:58:15.800
because they're the party of voter fraud. They have perfected

1104
00:58:15.840 --> 00:58:19.280
it and you know, and maybe we'll find out a

1105
00:58:19.280 --> 00:58:23.400
little bit more after we get into the palaces of Venezuela.

1106
00:58:23.639 --> 00:58:26.159
Just as a sidebar, stay tuned for details. We got

1107
00:58:26.159 --> 00:58:28.599
to leave it there. He's the Manhattan based Fox News

1108
00:58:28.679 --> 00:58:33.119
contributor contributing editor, the one and only Deroy Murdoch. Thank you, Deroy, Take.

1109
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Care you, bet Bill great, talk to you. Thanks a lot.

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Bill Martinez Live.

1134
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Welcome morning, America. Good to have you with us. Six

1135
00:59:48.679 --> 00:59:50.559
minutes after the top of the hour, and we've got

1136
00:59:50.840 --> 00:59:55.320
Dennis Hall joining us from ATR. Pinch hitting for the

1137
00:59:55.360 --> 01:00:00.000
one and only Grover Norquizt. But great to have Dennis here. Hey, Dennis,

1138
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:00.559
welcome to the show.

1139
01:00:00.599 --> 01:00:02.800
Good to have you with us, Hey, Bill, great to

1140
01:00:02.800 --> 01:00:04.039
be here. I appreciate it.

1141
01:00:04.320 --> 01:00:08.000
Well. Dennis is the manager of State Affairs with ATR,

1142
01:00:08.039 --> 01:00:13.480
an expert on you know, all things budget, particularly California

1143
01:00:13.480 --> 01:00:16.199
in the situation that they're facing right now. So looking

1144
01:00:16.239 --> 01:00:19.039
forward to this conversation with you, Dennis. So good to

1145
01:00:19.079 --> 01:00:23.159
have you here, because you know, California is representative of

1146
01:00:23.199 --> 01:00:26.960
a lot of blue states that are seeing mass exodus

1147
01:00:27.440 --> 01:00:30.800
where you know, U hauls are seem to be going

1148
01:00:30.840 --> 01:00:33.480
one way, and that's out of these blue states.

1149
01:00:33.159 --> 01:00:37.519
Right, That's right, California is set to lose multiple congressional

1150
01:00:37.519 --> 01:00:41.559
districts in twenty thirty just because you guys have overtaxed

1151
01:00:41.599 --> 01:00:44.880
and overregulated yourselves to such a point where people realize

1152
01:00:44.880 --> 01:00:47.639
they can just move to another state. They might not

1153
01:00:47.719 --> 01:00:49.960
be able to elect Republicans, but they can vote with

1154
01:00:50.000 --> 01:00:53.679
their feet and head across the border to Arizona or Nevada,

1155
01:00:53.800 --> 01:00:56.519
or Florida or Texas or any number of states with

1156
01:00:56.639 --> 01:00:58.280
low or zero income taxes.

1157
01:00:58.880 --> 01:00:59.199
Yeah.

1158
01:00:59.320 --> 01:01:02.480
Well, let me clarify something here for you, Dennis. I

1159
01:01:02.880 --> 01:01:06.840
beat the rush. I left California fourteen years ago, so

1160
01:01:07.519 --> 01:01:11.760
I was a trendsetter, you know, so, but this is,

1161
01:01:12.199 --> 01:01:15.039
you know, what's happening today. Of course, I still have

1162
01:01:15.239 --> 01:01:19.559
four kids in California and grandchildren, so I'm definitely concerned

1163
01:01:19.760 --> 01:01:23.360
about their situation, and maybe this is what it's going

1164
01:01:23.440 --> 01:01:26.320
to take, you know. I often say that people want

1165
01:01:26.360 --> 01:01:30.400
to insist on defying gravity, and this is what California

1166
01:01:30.400 --> 01:01:32.960
and some of these Blue states are doing. They're defining gravity.

1167
01:01:33.199 --> 01:01:37.199
Just it defies common sense, doesn't it It does.

1168
01:01:37.519 --> 01:01:40.840
I have many friends in California as well, and I'm

1169
01:01:40.960 --> 01:01:45.320
concerned for the economic growth of this country. There are

1170
01:01:45.400 --> 01:01:50.320
so many businesses and silicon Valley is a hub for entrepreneurship.

1171
01:01:50.760 --> 01:01:54.360
It's the forefront of the AI revolution, and so much

1172
01:01:54.360 --> 01:01:57.119
of what's happening in this country at the forefront of

1173
01:01:57.119 --> 01:02:00.239
innovation is taking place in California. So the more that

1174
01:02:00.280 --> 01:02:03.400
they sap tax dollars out of people's pockets and the

1175
01:02:03.440 --> 01:02:06.239
press businesses, the more our whole country will suffer. So

1176
01:02:06.280 --> 01:02:08.280
I think everybody should care about this issue.

1177
01:02:08.519 --> 01:02:10.719
Yeah, particularly in California. I can tell you haven't been

1178
01:02:10.760 --> 01:02:14.039
more than a raised there. I remember, oh, several decades ago,

1179
01:02:15.199 --> 01:02:19.440
the arrogance of state legislators who felt like they could

1180
01:02:19.480 --> 01:02:22.000
tax the heck out of people there in California because

1181
01:02:22.199 --> 01:02:24.719
they said, well, the climate and everything is so good

1182
01:02:24.719 --> 01:02:27.320
there in California that people will pay for it. Well

1183
01:02:27.480 --> 01:02:29.679
they have up to this point, but I think they're

1184
01:02:29.719 --> 01:02:33.840
getting to, you know, the end of their their vision

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and their silliness on this because, as you say, people

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are voting with their feet, you know, if they see

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what's happening in other states, So whether it's Texas or

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Florida and other you know, business friendly states, and I

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don't you know, Silicon Valley, yes, has really carried California

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all these years. But you know, they're gonna make moves.

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I mean, just like Elon Musk. He got out of there,

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That's right.

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Elon Musk moved to Austin and is headquartering SpaceX and

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Tesla and a number of other companies in that zero

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income tax state, and other states are seeking to become

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like Texas and Florida. It's not just the eight no

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income tax states that exist currently. There are twelve states

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with legislative leaders who are committed to eliminating their own

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state income tax. I do a lot of work in

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these states and state government affairs for Grover here and

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actually at five states that have now triggered their income

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tax all the way to zero. So any excess spending

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or any excess revenue that comes over a certain threshold,

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whether it's inflation or population growth, you're capping government spending

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and the ability for them to pay bureaucrats more and

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spend money on silly projects that don't work, like the

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train to nowhere in California or the issue which I

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think they've spent twenty billion dollars now in California, and

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homelessness has tripled since they started this. But these states

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are putting all of that extra revenue into permanent income

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tax and eventually they will get to zero. We'll see Missouri, Georgia,

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and South Carolina hopefully join the bandwagon here in a

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little bit. And it's wild to me that the momentum

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is in a complete opposite direction from where California has

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been going these last ten years or so. And I

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think people are starting to wake up and see that.

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Well, but we're still very polarized because you have these

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ideologues who are so fixed on this and they're going

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to continue on with these policies that really make for

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bad politics and are resulting. I mean, you know, look

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at what's going on with these sanctuary states for example, right.

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Right, Yeah, and California refuses to stop paying for illegal

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immigrants healthcare.

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Right.

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You're seeing welfare dollars and tax dollars go towards people

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who aren't even supposed to be in this country to

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begin with, and they're prioritizing other countries citizens versus the

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own people that they're meant to help, and I think

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the people who really do need welfare are suffering as

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a result. Love what you say about ideology and this

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idea that they're trying to create a utopian vision of

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They don't call it socialism, but it has quite a

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few elements of it, and the results speak for themselves.

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It doesn't work. And the beauty of federalism, this is

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what James Madison envisioned for this country, is that we

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have fifty little experiments. Wasn't fifty at the time of

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the Family. We've got little laboratories of democracy where you

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can enact certain policies. You see what works, and you

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see what doesn't. And hopefully the legislature and the voters

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of California will see the results from other states that

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are doing it better well.

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And it's interesting with some of this, I think that,

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you know, some of these you know, these experiments would

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be a lot more beneficial and expedient if they didn't

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find a way, particularly the Democrats, to find a way

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to lock down, you know, the purposing of money. It's

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so the model is so rigged in a way that

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once they get something in play, as Ron Reagan says,

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it's the closest thing to eternal life.

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Yeah, that's right, they take it in bits and pieces

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at a time. The income tax of California certainly didn't

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start at a fourteen point four percent top income tax rate,

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which is far higher than any other state, including blue

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states like Illinois. And by the way, Illinois has a

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flat tax in its constitution, and they tried to repeal

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this in twenty twenty at a millionaire's surcharge and the

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same year they elected Joe Biden by a sixteen point margin.

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They rejected a millionaire's tax fifty three forty seven. So

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there is hope, and I think that that speaks to that.

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Well, again, you know, you deal with reality and hopefully,

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like in some cases, you know, if you can have

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free and fair elections, that's still rather you know, a

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suspicious issue where you've got a majority of Americans have lost,

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you know, their trust in the whole voting process, particularly

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in states in blue states like you know, California and Illinois,

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where rampant voter fraud has been taking place. And you know,

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I'm just going to be curious right now, and I've

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put this out to our audience. I got to tell you, Dennis,

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is that with all that's been going on in Venezuela,

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which is the hub of voter fraud, I believe that

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we're going to find, you know, some information about voter

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fraud that's been emanating out of out of Australia. I mean,

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I say Australia, I'm in Venezuela. Yeah.

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Absolutely, And the administration has been encouraging states to look

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at their voter rules and see who should and should

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not be on there. And recently, just last week, Oregon

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has cleared eight hundred thousand people from their voter rules.

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That's twenty percent of the population of Oregon who were

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receiving automatic mail in ballots straight to whatever mailboxes or

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destinations that they might have had on file. And these

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people should not have been there to begin with. It's

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01:07:57.239 --> 01:08:00.519
a real travesty. And I think the administry is doing

1283
01:08:00.519 --> 01:08:02.719
a great job and encouraging states just to make sure

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that everything's in line and in order.

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Well, the people need to speak out. I mean, this

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is the government for by way, the people. I keep

1287
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saying and reminding our audience, and so if you don't

1288
01:08:12.079 --> 01:08:16.359
say anything, the bureaucrats the administrative state. You know, certainly

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one party and I hate to put it at the

1290
01:08:18.600 --> 01:08:21.680
feet of the Democrats, but that's where it seems to lie.

1291
01:08:22.199 --> 01:08:24.560
Are there some people in the Republican Party probably taking

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advantage of the program. I'm sure they are as well.

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But the fact of the matter is is that you know,

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without free and fair elections, you disenfranchise the electorates, and

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you have the America that we have today that resist.

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You know what's happening with sanctuary cities and all that's

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going on, particularly in Minnesota, after seventy five million people

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told Donald Trump, go fix up the problem.

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Right, Yeah, that's absolutely right. I think the fact that

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there is such mistrust in our elections contributes to the

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fact that people who don't have any trust won't show

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up to vote, and it's harder to get the vote

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out for good policies. If you think your elections are

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compromised anyway, why would you show up at the ballot box.

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Without a doubt. We got to go to a quick break.

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We've got more from Dennis on the other side. Stay

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Hey as promise we're back with you. Bill Martinez with

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Dennis Hall, the Manager of State Affairs. He's an expert

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on the California situation and knows national trends well, so

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we're taking advantage of him to have him here to

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break it all down. We talked about, you know, California.

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What other problem areas are you seeing Dennis.

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Well specifics in California. We've got something really nefarious coming

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up in November. The SEIU, the most powerful union in

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the state of California, where the state government is controlled

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largely by powerful, well financed unions who take dues automatically

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from their workers' paychecks without them even knowing, and use

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it for political lobbying purposes. These unions are sponsoring a

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ballot initiative to tax billionaires at five percent as a

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one time tax. And the most nefarious part about this

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is that they're providing no escape route from people who

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would prefer rather not to be taxed. It's retroactive to

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January first, so if you haven't already moved out of

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California and this passes in November, I'm sure there will

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be legal challenges to this, but knowing the courts in California,

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these guys will take a massive hit without even realizing

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what was coming for them. And there's a ton of

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different problems with the way this has been written, whether

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01:15:02.439 --> 01:15:05.960
it's drafting errors or otherwise, this will hit more than

1420
01:15:06.039 --> 01:15:08.760
just billionaires. And of course the left always leaves out

1421
01:15:08.760 --> 01:15:11.159
the second part of the equation when they say tax

1422
01:15:11.199 --> 01:15:15.279
the rich. It's taxed the rich first, and that will

1423
01:15:15.279 --> 01:15:17.000
come for you. We'll take you out of the room

1424
01:15:17.159 --> 01:15:19.319
one at a time and mug you there, so you

1425
01:15:19.359 --> 01:15:21.600
don't know what's going on. But it's just the first

1426
01:15:21.680 --> 01:15:24.279
step of the camel's nose under the tent for new

1427
01:15:24.319 --> 01:15:25.560
and hiring for everybody.

1428
01:15:25.600 --> 01:15:28.960
Well, well that's how income tax started. Right when it

1429
01:15:28.960 --> 01:15:30.760
first came into the country, it was, oh, we're going

1430
01:15:30.800 --> 01:15:33.439
to go after the wealthy folks, go after the one percent. Well,

1431
01:15:33.439 --> 01:15:35.439
the government went after the one percent, and they didn't

1432
01:15:35.479 --> 01:15:39.359
realize that they had a battalion of attorneys and legal

1433
01:15:39.399 --> 01:15:42.239
analysts and everything like that to defend themselves, and the

1434
01:15:42.279 --> 01:15:44.079
government said this is too hard, So now we're going

1435
01:15:44.159 --> 01:15:45.560
to go after the ninety nine percent.

1436
01:15:46.199 --> 01:15:50.760
That's absolutely right, And in fact, they can first written

1437
01:15:50.840 --> 01:15:53.319
for a seven percent tax on I think the top

1438
01:15:53.439 --> 01:15:56.560
point one percent of this country, exactly right, just for

1439
01:15:56.600 --> 01:15:58.880
the rich. Don't worry about it. And now I'm sitting

1440
01:15:58.920 --> 01:16:03.239
here making a relatively lower medium salary, and I'm paying

1441
01:16:03.279 --> 01:16:06.039
twenty something percent on all of my income. And the

1442
01:16:06.079 --> 01:16:09.159
worst part in my mind is that withholding right the

1443
01:16:09.199 --> 01:16:11.319
fact that they take it from you so that you

1444
01:16:11.319 --> 01:16:13.840
don't even see it, and on tax day next year

1445
01:16:13.880 --> 01:16:16.239
you feel good about yourself because you've got a massive

1446
01:16:16.279 --> 01:16:19.199
refund from the government. You can't even opt out of that.

1447
01:16:19.520 --> 01:16:22.920
So they're effectively taking an interest free loan from me

1448
01:16:23.399 --> 01:16:25.960
for fifteen months every year. Even though my bill is

1449
01:16:26.000 --> 01:16:28.640
not due until April fifteenth of next year, they're already

1450
01:16:28.680 --> 01:16:31.319
collecting the income tax from my paycheck. They're taking away

1451
01:16:31.319 --> 01:16:33.760
my opportunity to take interest or put it in the

1452
01:16:33.800 --> 01:16:36.199
stock market or anything else I might be able to do.

1453
01:16:37.119 --> 01:16:39.479
And that's the only way they could collect the massive

1454
01:16:39.479 --> 01:16:40.840
amount of taxes they do today.

1455
01:16:41.159 --> 01:16:43.560
And god forbid if you did it the other way around, right,

1456
01:16:44.359 --> 01:16:46.760
if you fail to pay your income tax, then they're

1457
01:16:46.800 --> 01:16:49.159
going to come back and penalize you for the lost

1458
01:16:49.199 --> 01:16:53.079
interest that somehow they have a right to. You know,

1459
01:16:53.119 --> 01:16:56.880
it's just they've found a way to come up with

1460
01:16:56.920 --> 01:16:58.960
a plan to legally steal from you.

1461
01:17:00.039 --> 01:17:02.560
That's absolutely right, and that's actually one element of this

1462
01:17:02.640 --> 01:17:04.000
proposed ballot initiative.

1463
01:17:04.239 --> 01:17:04.600
If you.

1464
01:17:05.079 --> 01:17:07.760
So, first of all, you have the responsibility as the

1465
01:17:07.800 --> 01:17:11.199
taxpayer to figure out what you're due to the government.

1466
01:17:11.600 --> 01:17:14.319
Then the bureaucrats will take a look themselves, and if

1467
01:17:14.359 --> 01:17:17.680
you were determined to have underpaid by a certain amount

1468
01:17:17.760 --> 01:17:20.680
relatively low amount, not only must you pay all of

1469
01:17:20.720 --> 01:17:23.680
that back, but you're subject to a twenty percent penalty

1470
01:17:23.960 --> 01:17:26.760
in punishment for what could have been a really good

1471
01:17:26.760 --> 01:17:30.279
faith error. And on top of that, the appraiser that

1472
01:17:30.359 --> 01:17:34.399
you hired to calculate your net worth is personally subject

1473
01:17:34.600 --> 01:17:37.600
to a two to four percent penalty on the total

1474
01:17:37.680 --> 01:17:41.680
value of the tax that they allegedly didn't collect properly.

1475
01:17:41.760 --> 01:17:45.039
So if your company is worth six six billion dollars,

1476
01:17:45.319 --> 01:17:48.159
but if you say your company's worth five billion dollars

1477
01:17:48.439 --> 01:17:51.720
and the government says it's worth six, not only would

1478
01:17:51.720 --> 01:17:54.359
you have to pay the ten million dollars in extra taxes,

1479
01:17:54.600 --> 01:17:58.119
but the appraiser would be personally liable for a million

1480
01:17:58.159 --> 01:18:00.479
dollars in fees. And who knows if they can afford

1481
01:18:00.560 --> 01:18:02.079
that These are just people making a living.

1482
01:18:02.760 --> 01:18:07.279
Yeah, this is this is nuts, you know. And the

1483
01:18:07.319 --> 01:18:09.079
thing is is that in the midst of all this,

1484
01:18:09.880 --> 01:18:13.640
and you realize how much the government takes from you,

1485
01:18:14.000 --> 01:18:16.720
and then you see what's happening in Minneapolis, all this

1486
01:18:16.800 --> 01:18:20.680
fraud that takes place. It can't it can't feel good

1487
01:18:20.720 --> 01:18:21.920
for jaspayers right now.

1488
01:18:22.800 --> 01:18:26.119
No, it really can't. Certainly, just one example of the

1489
01:18:26.159 --> 01:18:29.840
massive welfare fraud that we have in this country, twice

1490
01:18:29.880 --> 01:18:33.720
as many people are now collecting Obamacare benefits as were

1491
01:18:33.920 --> 01:18:36.960
just five years ago. We've got twenty percent on Obamacare

1492
01:18:37.039 --> 01:18:39.800
instead of ten or eleven that we had in twenty twenty.

1493
01:18:40.159 --> 01:18:43.920
And when we have this massive expansion in government subsidies

1494
01:18:43.960 --> 01:18:47.239
and welfare programs, you've got people who are taking advantage

1495
01:18:47.239 --> 01:18:50.399
of it, and they're receiving government dollars that they shouldn't,

1496
01:18:50.520 --> 01:18:53.720
whether you're Somalian and sending suitcases of cash back to

1497
01:18:53.760 --> 01:18:55.960
your home country that you took straight from the state

1498
01:18:56.000 --> 01:18:59.359
government or somewhere else. I would love to have a

1499
01:18:59.399 --> 01:19:03.159
full audit of every state welfare program and federal welfare program.

1500
01:19:03.199 --> 01:19:07.319
For that well, Trump is assigned as are you know

1501
01:19:07.399 --> 01:19:11.800
to that fact. I mean, we lost Elon Musk, but

1502
01:19:12.239 --> 01:19:17.720
some aspects of Doze and certainly the philosophy gets reinforced,

1503
01:19:17.800 --> 01:19:20.800
especially when we see you know, what's happened, you know

1504
01:19:20.840 --> 01:19:23.560
with Minnesota. And I think this is also what's promoting

1505
01:19:23.600 --> 01:19:26.159
a lot of the rioting there is because they want

1506
01:19:26.199 --> 01:19:30.199
to deflect this, this whole fraud scheme. Because they're saying

1507
01:19:30.319 --> 01:19:32.920
nine billion dollars. I think it's greater than that, and

1508
01:19:32.960 --> 01:19:38.319
they're only talking about, you know, a small aspect. And

1509
01:19:38.359 --> 01:19:40.039
you know, this is a small portion, even though they

1510
01:19:40.039 --> 01:19:44.439
look at how many Somalians are on welfare or some

1511
01:19:44.520 --> 01:19:46.760
government assistance, I mean to the tune of eighty eighty

1512
01:19:46.800 --> 01:19:50.279
five percent. And yet when they come into the country,

1513
01:19:50.600 --> 01:19:53.000
I mean, if they come in legally, if it's not

1514
01:19:53.039 --> 01:19:56.800
a migrant status, they have to have some sort of

1515
01:19:56.840 --> 01:20:00.239
sponsor that keeps them off the dole. But you know,

1516
01:20:00.279 --> 01:20:02.800
I suspect that a lot of this increase with Obamacare

1517
01:20:02.880 --> 01:20:06.840
that you mentioned earlier is being assigned to illegal immigrants,

1518
01:20:06.840 --> 01:20:07.439
don't you think.

1519
01:20:08.119 --> 01:20:10.439
Yeah, I'm certain that it is. And you've got people

1520
01:20:10.479 --> 01:20:14.079
in power, especially in these deep blue states and Minnesota.

1521
01:20:14.119 --> 01:20:16.039
As Trump said on truth Social a few days ago,

1522
01:20:16.079 --> 01:20:18.920
Minnesota is Trump country. It's GOP for the most part.

1523
01:20:19.000 --> 01:20:21.239
I think he won every county except for six of them.

1524
01:20:21.439 --> 01:20:24.399
The legislature is split right down the middle, but the

1525
01:20:24.439 --> 01:20:27.359
people who are in charge and who are on the

1526
01:20:27.399 --> 01:20:30.640
government take even within the state government, have a massive

1527
01:20:30.680 --> 01:20:33.920
incentive to keep the party going as long as possible. Right.

1528
01:20:34.159 --> 01:20:36.600
Not only do they have a political incentive to not

1529
01:20:36.720 --> 01:20:38.680
uncover the fraud because it makes them look bad in

1530
01:20:38.720 --> 01:20:41.479
the next election, but people are getting paid half a

1531
01:20:41.520 --> 01:20:44.600
million dollars a pop just to administer these programs.

1532
01:20:44.920 --> 01:20:46.119
And exactly what do.

1533
01:20:46.079 --> 01:20:48.840
They have to get people off the doll There's none.

1534
01:20:49.319 --> 01:20:51.920
Yeah, but the politicians themselves. I mean, how much money

1535
01:20:52.000 --> 01:20:55.279
is going into the coffers of governor wats for example,

1536
01:20:55.640 --> 01:20:58.600
or for the mayor. I mean these politicians they get

1537
01:20:58.720 --> 01:21:00.960
you know, I keep saying on the show, Oh, you know,

1538
01:21:00.960 --> 01:21:04.439
all these politicians get their vig So any government money

1539
01:21:04.439 --> 01:21:07.199
goes out there, it's like like Nancy Pelosi says, quid

1540
01:21:07.199 --> 01:21:10.359
pro quote, all right, what's in it for me? That's

1541
01:21:10.439 --> 01:21:15.600
the model, sadly, and that's why we're in this corruption.

1542
01:21:15.840 --> 01:21:18.880
We're so in the middle of this bucket of corruption

1543
01:21:19.000 --> 01:21:19.800
that we're dealing with.

1544
01:21:20.520 --> 01:21:24.119
That's absolutely right, And they will always take more. There's

1545
01:21:24.159 --> 01:21:27.640
always more people to pay off. There's always more taxpayer

1546
01:21:27.680 --> 01:21:30.319
funded lobbyists who come to the state government and ask

1547
01:21:30.399 --> 01:21:33.359
for even more tax dollars sent directly to them. And

1548
01:21:33.399 --> 01:21:36.520
that's really what you see with this allegedly one time

1549
01:21:36.600 --> 01:21:39.880
billionaire's tax in California. They go after the wealthy, they

1550
01:21:39.880 --> 01:21:43.439
go after the successful, they go after the AI founders

1551
01:21:43.439 --> 01:21:46.399
who are driving innovation in this country, and they punish

1552
01:21:46.520 --> 01:21:50.640
them for their success. Really nefarious, And I'll mention one

1553
01:21:50.680 --> 01:21:54.640
thing about this billionaires tax that I find personally horrifying.

1554
01:21:54.960 --> 01:21:57.359
You hear five percent on billionaires doesn't sound that bad,

1555
01:21:57.720 --> 01:21:59.920
but if you not a little bit deeper, a lot

1556
01:22:00.119 --> 01:22:02.760
of these founders. Take Mark Zuckerberg, He's got a lot

1557
01:22:02.800 --> 01:22:06.239
of shares that are not publicly tradable because they're voting shares. Right,

1558
01:22:06.279 --> 01:22:10.399
He's got a sixty one percent voting share stake in Facebook,

1559
01:22:10.680 --> 01:22:13.800
and the way that this ballot measure is drafted, he

1560
01:22:13.840 --> 01:22:17.079
would be taxed at this sixty one percent rate. So

1561
01:22:17.399 --> 01:22:19.720
sixty one percent of the value of Facebook is like

1562
01:22:19.760 --> 01:22:23.680
six hundred billion dollars. He doesn't have that money, so effectively,

1563
01:22:23.960 --> 01:22:28.079
he would be forced to relinquish his voting shares, convert

1564
01:22:28.119 --> 01:22:32.199
them into regular publicly tradable shares, and give up control

1565
01:22:32.399 --> 01:22:35.960
of the company that he founded in his garage and

1566
01:22:36.239 --> 01:22:38.960
send over to whoever else. Right, this doesn't just punish

1567
01:22:38.960 --> 01:22:41.760
Mark Zuckerberg, it punishes every one of the employees of

1568
01:22:41.840 --> 01:22:45.279
Meta who rely on competent leadership. And a guy who's

1569
01:22:45.319 --> 01:22:47.560
built this thing from nothing and is now one of

1570
01:22:47.640 --> 01:22:50.319
the most successful companies in the world. They're going after

1571
01:22:50.359 --> 01:22:53.560
his success, not his money, and I think philosophically that's

1572
01:22:53.600 --> 01:22:55.079
really damaging for our country.

1573
01:22:55.520 --> 01:22:59.479
Well, it's almost similar to what is happening, you know,

1574
01:22:59.520 --> 01:23:02.880
across the pond here in England. They're putting that kind

1575
01:23:02.880 --> 01:23:05.760
of pressure and tax pressure on the farmers. And what

1576
01:23:05.800 --> 01:23:09.520
did they do. They brought their tractors into London and

1577
01:23:09.880 --> 01:23:11.880
kind of siege work the city, right.

1578
01:23:12.520 --> 01:23:14.840
That's right. I mean, you look at the protests against

1579
01:23:14.840 --> 01:23:18.520
the Canadian government when they realized they'd have to get vaccinated,

1580
01:23:18.640 --> 01:23:21.000
even though they sit in their truck by themselves all day,

1581
01:23:21.560 --> 01:23:24.359
and you had people blocking the streets and protesting these things.

1582
01:23:24.439 --> 01:23:27.119
I really hope we see more people, especially in Europe,

1583
01:23:27.119 --> 01:23:29.960
which seems to me a dying civilization because of the

1584
01:23:29.960 --> 01:23:33.319
sheer level of tax and regulation. These guys are getting crushed.

1585
01:23:33.880 --> 01:23:37.560
My Opah, my German grandpa over there, has always said

1586
01:23:37.600 --> 01:23:41.119
for decades, they just take half they've always taken half,

1587
01:23:41.319 --> 01:23:43.760
they always will take half, and that's just the way

1588
01:23:43.760 --> 01:23:46.199
it is. And he sees no problem with it. And

1589
01:23:46.279 --> 01:23:49.800
I think people have really been cultured into this idea

1590
01:23:49.880 --> 01:23:52.680
that it's inevitable, when really they should look over here

1591
01:23:52.680 --> 01:23:55.159
and realize that in all of these states that are

1592
01:23:55.159 --> 01:23:57.800
eliminating their income taxes, the momentum is going in the

1593
01:23:57.840 --> 01:23:58.399
other direction.

1594
01:23:59.239 --> 01:24:02.319
Well, look at the government doesn't want you to be smart.

1595
01:24:02.600 --> 01:24:05.680
They want to keep you dumb down. But you know,

1596
01:24:05.760 --> 01:24:10.279
this information age in which we lead live in, it's

1597
01:24:10.359 --> 01:24:14.560
near impossible to ignore the realities of the fraud and

1598
01:24:14.600 --> 01:24:17.479
corruption that's taking place. Hey, it's your money, ladies and gentlemen,

1599
01:24:17.479 --> 01:24:19.960
it's what you choose do with it. And ATR has

1600
01:24:20.000 --> 01:24:23.560
a great website and a great resource to keep you informed. Right,

1601
01:24:23.640 --> 01:24:25.640
remind them of where they can go for more information.

1602
01:24:25.760 --> 01:24:26.279
Dennis Hall.

1603
01:24:26.800 --> 01:24:29.560
Sure, you can follow me on Twitter at real Dennis Hall.

1604
01:24:29.600 --> 01:24:32.760
I took inspiration from the President's Twitter handle. You can

1605
01:24:32.800 --> 01:24:35.720
also come to our website ATR dot org. And if

1606
01:24:35.760 --> 01:24:38.640
you'd like to see a map of where things stand

1607
01:24:38.680 --> 01:24:41.439
in the fifty States. The fact that we have twenty

1608
01:24:41.600 --> 01:24:45.720
four flat tax states where envy has been taken off

1609
01:24:45.760 --> 01:24:47.680
the table, and you can look to your neighbor and

1610
01:24:47.680 --> 01:24:50.119
say he's paying the same percentage of their income as me.

1611
01:24:50.600 --> 01:24:54.479
And politically this is really beneficial. Eventually, so many states

1612
01:24:54.520 --> 01:24:56.119
will have a flat tax that we can just do

1613
01:24:56.159 --> 01:24:59.399
it federally. But that map can be found on ATR

1614
01:24:59.479 --> 01:25:01.680
dot org slash tax map.

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01:25:01.840 --> 01:25:04.479
If you're interested, yep, check it out. You need to

1616
01:25:04.479 --> 01:25:07.880
be interested. Dennis Hall, the manager of State Affairs with ATR,

1617
01:25:07.960 --> 01:25:09.199
Thank you, Dennis, take care.

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01:25:09.560 --> 01:25:10.760
Thank you, Bill, appreciate it.

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Nutrition for Patriots, Welcome back to America, Bill Martinez here.

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Good to have you with us, and look at he's

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back with us this year. It's part of the new Year.

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It's getting to be a tradition, just like January Dry Youary,

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and we'll talk more about that with Joe Carr in

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01:29:26.880 --> 01:29:29.039
just a moment. Hey, Joe, welcome back. Good to have

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you with us. Yeah, good to be here.

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Bill.

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Well, we can blame it all on you. This new

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tradition that's catching on Dryuary or dry January, as some

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aer saying, it's when people take a break from drinking

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01:29:41.479 --> 01:29:44.039
during the month of January after the holidays. They say,

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look at maybe I need to just take a break.

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You know, I may have hit it a little heavier

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01:29:48.720 --> 01:29:50.800
than I'd like to, but you know, this kind of

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01:29:50.840 --> 01:29:53.079
makes sense. So, you know, shame on you, Joe Carr,

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01:29:53.079 --> 01:29:55.079
for listening to the people and giving them something they

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want to do.

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Right.

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Yeah, it's it's always my fault, Bill, It always has been, you.

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Know, Bill twenty twenty six.

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Even though it's dried January, you have to we realize

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something that it's America's two hundred and fiftieth anniversary, right,

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01:30:11.000 --> 01:30:13.479
and that's a big thing for us because, as you know,

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01:30:14.239 --> 01:30:18.279
Josh Sellers has really become America's most beloved wine brand.

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01:30:18.880 --> 01:30:21.359
And the backstory is, you know, I started this company

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01:30:21.359 --> 01:30:25.560
with my wife. We started in our garage. Our desk

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01:30:25.720 --> 01:30:29.439
was a picnic table, and I'm out in California making

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01:30:29.479 --> 01:30:33.199
wine inside somebody else's winery for over five years. So

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01:30:34.159 --> 01:30:38.760
that story, in that journey embodies the American dream. So

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01:30:38.920 --> 01:30:43.119
to celebrate America's two hundred and fiftieth anniversary is something

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01:30:43.199 --> 01:30:44.479
really really special?

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01:30:45.159 --> 01:30:47.039
Well, how did you come up with the idea of

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01:30:47.079 --> 01:30:49.079
a non alcoholic sparkling wine?

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01:30:50.399 --> 01:30:52.479
Well, we knew, you know, we kind of recognize this

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01:30:52.680 --> 01:30:56.840
trend a while ago. And you know, my mom was

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01:30:56.920 --> 01:31:03.479
diabetic and so she couldn't drink alcohol. And we we

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01:31:03.520 --> 01:31:06.800
have a winery in Italy, in uh in the Veneto

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01:31:06.920 --> 01:31:11.399
region where we make Josh Sellers prosecco, this generation wine

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01:31:11.399 --> 01:31:14.920
making family, Daniel Posey. So we all got together and

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01:31:15.000 --> 01:31:18.880
we said, could we create something? And we created a

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01:31:18.960 --> 01:31:25.239
non alcoholic sparkling which looks like and tastes like prosecco.

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01:31:25.479 --> 01:31:29.039
It's absolutely delicious. Well, and I noticed and the people

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01:31:29.039 --> 01:31:31.760
who probably notices that, you know, you hear sparkling and

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01:31:31.800 --> 01:31:33.720
you think, okay, but we're not hearing wine. We're not

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01:31:33.800 --> 01:31:38.760
hearing you know, a subject term, but it's sparkling is

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01:31:38.800 --> 01:31:39.399
the subject?

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01:31:39.840 --> 01:31:41.560
Right? Yes?

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01:31:41.680 --> 01:31:42.279
For us?

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01:31:42.680 --> 01:31:45.960
Right now, we're just making an na sparkling there are

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01:31:46.079 --> 01:31:50.680
people that are making NA wines, uh, table wines. We're

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01:31:50.720 --> 01:31:55.000
not we're not in that space yet. But we'll look

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01:31:55.039 --> 01:31:58.119
at it, you know, we'll we'll look at it. But

1739
01:31:58.279 --> 01:32:03.680
you know, Josh and a sparkling. I mean it's great

1740
01:32:03.680 --> 01:32:06.600
as a mocktail, you know, I make a ballini, I

1741
01:32:06.680 --> 01:32:10.800
make a mimosa with a you know, fresh fruit. And

1742
01:32:10.840 --> 01:32:14.640
that's another trend that especially young people are trying this too,

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01:32:14.840 --> 01:32:17.079
which is important. You know, if they try an NA

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01:32:17.199 --> 01:32:21.039
wine and when maybe they decide to have alcohol, this

1745
01:32:21.159 --> 01:32:24.880
is kind of our our bridge, right, so we're excited

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01:32:24.880 --> 01:32:25.279
about it.

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01:32:25.720 --> 01:32:28.880
Well, and of course when you're celebrating, uh, you know,

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01:32:29.119 --> 01:32:31.640
you want to, I guess have a sense that you

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01:32:32.319 --> 01:32:36.359
are you know, enjoying uh you know, a drink and

1750
01:32:36.359 --> 01:32:38.920
and who knows and who cares whether or not it's alcoholic,

1751
01:32:39.039 --> 01:32:40.680
right exactly?

1752
01:32:41.119 --> 01:32:45.479
You know, speaking of entertaining, uh, I do a lot.

1753
01:32:45.640 --> 01:32:48.199
I mean when you become a wine producer, guess what,

1754
01:32:48.319 --> 01:32:51.239
you're really popular and people want to come over to

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01:32:51.279 --> 01:32:54.880
the house. Well, so the trend now too is to

1756
01:32:55.119 --> 01:32:58.359
uh you know, make things a little easier and fun.

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01:32:59.159 --> 01:33:01.439
You know, we don't have to do a ten course dinner.

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01:33:01.520 --> 01:33:01.760
We don't.

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01:33:01.800 --> 01:33:03.439
We don't have to do that anymore. I put out

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01:33:03.439 --> 01:33:07.640
a buffet, or I do chacury boards, let people graze

1761
01:33:07.680 --> 01:33:12.199
walk around. We experiment by by putting out all types

1762
01:33:12.239 --> 01:33:14.359
of wine. So because you know, I make Caberny Saviallan,

1763
01:33:14.680 --> 01:33:16.720
I make Josh pino and no war which is great

1764
01:33:16.760 --> 01:33:20.600
for parties. We got a new white wine out called

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01:33:20.720 --> 01:33:24.560
Sea Swept. It's a blend of savant blanc and Pino Gregia,

1766
01:33:24.640 --> 01:33:28.199
which is on fire right now throughout the country. And

1767
01:33:28.239 --> 01:33:31.239
then of course we have our sparkling wines from Italy,

1768
01:33:31.640 --> 01:33:35.159
and this spring we're going to be introducing a new

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01:33:35.239 --> 01:33:40.119
sparkling wine called Sea Swept, made up in u in California,

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01:33:40.159 --> 01:33:45.880
and that, uh, that's gonna be my daytime wine. Just

1771
01:33:45.880 --> 01:33:48.319
saying I'm just putting that out there. I will try

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01:33:48.359 --> 01:33:51.239
it during the day and I'm gonna make a lot

1773
01:33:51.239 --> 01:33:52.760
of sprits is with it with fresh fruit.

1774
01:33:53.279 --> 01:33:56.000
Oh gosh, that sounds great, you know. And the deal

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01:33:56.079 --> 01:33:58.000
is is that, as you say, I mean, and I'm

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01:33:58.079 --> 01:34:01.640
like you, Josh, Uh, I'd much rather have in many

1777
01:34:01.680 --> 01:34:07.439
cases a nice charcuterie board and different wines available there,

1778
01:34:07.720 --> 01:34:10.000
just so you can discover the different pairings, right.

1779
01:34:10.600 --> 01:34:13.520
Yeah, absolutely, And you know, cheese doesn't necessarily have to

1780
01:34:13.560 --> 01:34:17.359
be with red wine. For example, goat cheeses mantas ship

1781
01:34:17.520 --> 01:34:21.159
they call Monache. They work great with Savion bloc with

1782
01:34:21.199 --> 01:34:23.520
the acidity. You know, have you got your darker cheeses

1783
01:34:23.600 --> 01:34:26.560
or parmesans or heavier cheeses. Yeah, that's where.

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01:34:26.359 --> 01:34:29.399
Mer Low comes in. Or and then you know, we

1785
01:34:29.439 --> 01:34:30.279
also make rose.

1786
01:34:30.520 --> 01:34:34.439
We make it an amazing Josh Sellers rose, uh from

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01:34:34.520 --> 01:34:38.119
the Barbara grape, Italian grape. And that's you know, that's

1788
01:34:38.119 --> 01:34:42.119
a party wine. That's that's just a big party wine.

1789
01:34:42.399 --> 01:34:46.000
Well, it's always fun talking with Joe Carr. He's the

1790
01:34:46.000 --> 01:34:48.800
founder of Josh Sellers and he's breaking it all down

1791
01:34:48.840 --> 01:34:51.920
for us and talking about you know, this this trend

1792
01:34:51.960 --> 01:34:56.800
that's catching on dry January. Uh, you know what's what's

1793
01:34:56.840 --> 01:34:59.319
behind all this? I mean, it just seems like there's

1794
01:34:59.359 --> 01:35:01.880
a lot of a lot of motivation and a lot

1795
01:35:01.920 --> 01:35:04.720
of rallying around this idea of dry January. Joe.

1796
01:35:05.720 --> 01:35:07.680
Yeah, you know, like I said, it's been a couple

1797
01:35:07.720 --> 01:35:11.760
of years, and I think for many that do it,

1798
01:35:12.479 --> 01:35:14.520
they just want to tap the brakes, you know, they're

1799
01:35:14.560 --> 01:35:17.239
coming off Christmas in New Year's Eve. So what do

1800
01:35:17.279 --> 01:35:21.279
you think? Yeah, you know, a little over imbibing perhaps,

1801
01:35:21.319 --> 01:35:24.600
And this is kind of a way to shift down.

1802
01:35:25.439 --> 01:35:28.479
But I don't think it's going to go away, and

1803
01:35:29.159 --> 01:35:30.199
we're prepared for it.

1804
01:35:30.520 --> 01:35:33.600
Yeah, yeah, but shifting down with I think in a

1805
01:35:33.640 --> 01:35:36.359
sense with very little compromise Joe with you know, with

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01:35:36.439 --> 01:35:37.680
the sparkling.

1807
01:35:37.199 --> 01:35:42.600
Right, Oh, absolutely, I mean the bottom line, whatever we

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01:35:42.680 --> 01:35:47.600
make has to taste good. It has to there's no

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01:35:49.239 --> 01:35:54.000
cutting corners. We've never done that. So the products that

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01:35:54.039 --> 01:35:58.079
we've produced, where they have alcohol or not, we want

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01:35:58.079 --> 01:36:00.680
to be a benchmark the category.

1812
01:36:01.399 --> 01:36:03.399
Well, the fact is is that if it didn't taste

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01:36:03.439 --> 01:36:05.119
good and the people were responding to it, you and

1814
01:36:05.159 --> 01:36:07.520
I wouldn't be talking about it today, right, No, I

1815
01:36:07.520 --> 01:36:11.039
don't think so. Just kind of common sense marketing here

1816
01:36:11.439 --> 01:36:15.319
is what this is all about. How exactly is a

1817
01:36:15.720 --> 01:36:19.119
non alcoholic sparkling made?

1818
01:36:19.479 --> 01:36:22.720
Well, you make it last if you're making a regular

1819
01:36:22.960 --> 01:36:27.359
alcoholic wine. But what you do is you we call

1820
01:36:27.399 --> 01:36:34.199
it arresting fermentation because fermentation needs heat. But if you

1821
01:36:34.359 --> 01:36:40.000
keep the prosecco grapes chilled, then the fermentation process doesn't happen.

1822
01:36:40.720 --> 01:36:43.439
So that's how we do it. It's called arrested fermentation.

1823
01:36:44.279 --> 01:36:48.640
Arrested for see, that's the words for the day, arrested fermentation.

1824
01:36:48.840 --> 01:36:51.399
Now see how smart you get here by listening to

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01:36:51.439 --> 01:36:54.399
Joe Cars He breaks all this stuff down. And now

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01:36:54.880 --> 01:36:56.560
I know what's going to happen, Joe. They're going to

1827
01:36:56.600 --> 01:37:00.439
be running, you know, running to you know, check this

1828
01:37:00.560 --> 01:37:02.920
out and you know, check out a couple of bottles

1829
01:37:02.960 --> 01:37:06.359
and you know, work up a nice charcuterie board and

1830
01:37:06.439 --> 01:37:09.680
start experimenting with the pairings. Right, Yeah, that sounds like

1831
01:37:09.720 --> 01:37:12.520
a great idea. I'm with you on that. I love

1832
01:37:12.560 --> 01:37:16.640
that idea. So again, the versatility, as you mentioned of

1833
01:37:16.760 --> 01:37:20.439
pairings with the sparkling, it's you know, people are going

1834
01:37:20.479 --> 01:37:22.279
to find this out for themselves. Of course, you already

1835
01:37:22.319 --> 01:37:25.399
have people that have discovered this, but for those of

1836
01:37:25.479 --> 01:37:29.439
us that have not, get ready and your taste buds

1837
01:37:29.680 --> 01:37:32.720
are going to be very receptive for this new idea

1838
01:37:32.960 --> 01:37:36.079
and concept of dry January, Right, I think so?

1839
01:37:36.560 --> 01:37:37.720
I think so?

1840
01:37:37.720 --> 01:37:41.840
So anything else you're holding back on us, Joe? I mean,

1841
01:37:41.920 --> 01:37:44.199
is there something else that we should we should know about.

1842
01:37:44.199 --> 01:37:45.479
We've got about a minute left here.

1843
01:37:45.640 --> 01:37:49.279
Well, well, listen, want to listen America's two hundred and

1844
01:37:49.279 --> 01:37:57.680
fiftieth anniversary, America's most beloved wine brand, American Dream Quality Wines, Handcrafted.

1845
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Go on Josh Sellers dot com, check out our Instagram feed.

1846
01:38:03.760 --> 01:38:06.439
We're going to have installations at concerts where you've got

1847
01:38:06.439 --> 01:38:08.680
to be able to go and taste some of our wines.

1848
01:38:08.720 --> 01:38:11.000
We don't have the schedule out yet. And then you

1849
01:38:11.039 --> 01:38:14.319
can also go on YouTube. I've had ten million views

1850
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on YouTube that talk about the journey and my dad

1851
01:38:19.279 --> 01:38:24.039
and our values and we think that's really important.

1852
01:38:24.439 --> 01:38:26.159
Well, we're going to leverage this interview as well, and

1853
01:38:26.199 --> 01:38:28.439
it'll be on YouTube and X and Rumble and a

1854
01:38:28.479 --> 01:38:31.159
couple of other platforms in addition, you know to what

1855
01:38:31.199 --> 01:38:34.239
we do here nationally and internationally on Bill Martinez Live.

1856
01:38:34.840 --> 01:38:38.199
We just so you know, love, you know what Josh

1857
01:38:38.279 --> 01:38:41.039
Shellers has done, Joe, what you've done with the organization,

1858
01:38:41.560 --> 01:38:43.880
and of course we've got a lot of fun things

1859
01:38:43.880 --> 01:38:47.600
to talk about with Dry January, right, you got it?

1860
01:38:47.600 --> 01:38:50.279
Sounds great As we wrap things up, where can people

1861
01:38:50.359 --> 01:38:51.319
go for more information?

1862
01:38:52.479 --> 01:38:54.640
Well, like I just said, go to Josh Sellers dot com,

1863
01:38:54.720 --> 01:38:59.760
check out the instagram feed, go on YouTube, go to

1864
01:38:59.760 --> 01:39:02.880
your local stores, because you know a lot of stores

1865
01:39:03.920 --> 01:39:06.680
have tastings on Saturdays and Sundays, and they're gonna be

1866
01:39:06.760 --> 01:39:08.600
trying our wines. They're gonna be pouring our wines.

1867
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Well, there it is, ladies and gentlemen, check it out

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for yourself. Joe Carr from Josh Sellers, Joe, thank you

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so much, take care having you here, my friend, you too, Bill,

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thanks a lot.

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Hey, we're back with you. Good morning, Happy New Year

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to you. Bill Martinez here with Adam Holtz from plugged

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in dot com. Hey, mister Adam, how we doing, Bundy?

1951
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Great Bill, how are you doing.

1952
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Hey, I'm doing wonderful. I'm checking my list here for

1953
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you know, resolutions for twenty twenty six. You know at

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plugged in you've got a good article there that I

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recommend for people to read. This will inspire you because

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you gov has noted the top New Year's resolutions for

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twenty twenty six exercising more. In fact, four of the

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year's top ten resolutions relate to physical health. Others include

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eating healthier that's number three, and of course to RFK

1960
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Junior is doing everything else to get some of these

1961
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nefarious things out of our pyramid, and we'll see how

1962
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that works out. So yeah, there's there's some good ideas

1963
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out there. Interesting to know. I would have thought, and

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this is just me, maybe just because I am a

1965
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little bit more rebellious, I would thought that praying more

1966
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would be higher on the list, but it's still in

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the top ten.

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Well, and I think with resolutions, we often tend to

1969
01:44:27.720 --> 01:44:30.720
think about what we need to stop doing you know,

1970
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I need to stop, you know, eating too much. I

1971
01:44:34.239 --> 01:44:36.840
need to stop being on the couch so much as

1972
01:44:36.880 --> 01:44:39.520
opposed to what we should do it. But I will

1973
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add I wanted this is a great segue. I'm glad

1974
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you introduced us this way. So every couple of years

1975
01:44:45.279 --> 01:44:48.119
and we're trying to do it annually. Now we're doing

1976
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a Parent's Guide to Technology, and so if you go

1977
01:44:50.840 --> 01:44:53.319
to our blog page, you'll see a couple of blog

1978
01:44:53.880 --> 01:44:59.319
titles related to that. And this is basically a mini

1979
01:44:59.439 --> 01:45:05.800
book that is really geared practically and pragmatically toward helping

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parents understand and apply principles to your family's tech use

1981
01:45:10.880 --> 01:45:15.800
and screen use. And frankly, I'm not sure there's a

1982
01:45:15.840 --> 01:45:19.439
big issue for most of us than screens these days.

1983
01:45:19.680 --> 01:45:21.760
And I'm aware of the irony that I'm saying that,

1984
01:45:22.039 --> 01:45:25.159
and somebody's watching me on a screen, right, So life

1985
01:45:25.239 --> 01:45:29.960
is full of these meta paradoxes. There's good content, there's

1986
01:45:30.000 --> 01:45:35.000
bad content. Obviously, we want to equip you to recognize

1987
01:45:35.279 --> 01:45:39.039
what is going to be helpful, and not only helpful,

1988
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because helpful is sort of an American word, Let's make

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it biblical. What's going to be fruitful for you?

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Yes, right, what.

1991
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Is going to help multiply spiritual abundance in your life

1992
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and your family's life. And for most of us, that

1993
01:45:56.119 --> 01:45:59.800
means not only avoiding the bad content and engaging with

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01:45:59.840 --> 01:46:04.039
the good stuff, but really thinking about screen usage in

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01:46:04.119 --> 01:46:08.479
general as a discipleship issue. And so you'll find our

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Tech and Entertainment Guide for Parents. And I think we

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were asking for your email, so we'll trade you an

1998
01:46:16.159 --> 01:46:18.159
email for It's like, I don't know, it's like one

1999
01:46:18.239 --> 01:46:21.159
hundred page mini book. Don't quote me on the page numbers,

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01:46:21.199 --> 01:46:25.279
but it's big. There is a lot there that will

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really bless your family.

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Well, and this is the thing, I mean, when you

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think about how God, what he's done for us, you know,

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he built into the system boundaries so that we would.

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Be protected, right, yep, exactly.

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And what's happened ever since then, ever since the Garden

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is Man's Humans Revolt, has been against that. They want

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to cast off those boundaries.

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Well that's the thing, right.

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Yeah, And I keep saying it's like define gravity. It's

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like you're going to just say, well, I'm not going

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to play the gravity game, right really? Okay, Well, see

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how long that lasts and how many bones you break

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to finally realize that gravity exists regardless of your onneriness.

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Right, right, well, and here's the thing. You know, we

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have talked about individualism as a cultural value for a

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long time in the United States. You know, the United

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States is built on a fundamental understanding that every person

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has certain inalienable rights and freedoms.

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Right.

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We're not based on a collective you know, Sorry to

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01:47:33.119 --> 01:47:36.199
the Mayor of New York, that's not how the United

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01:47:36.239 --> 01:47:40.640
States is constituted literally in the Constitution. We're built on

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01:47:40.720 --> 01:47:44.279
individual freedoms. But I do think that we have gotten

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01:47:44.319 --> 01:47:48.359
to the point where we have pushed individualism into an

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01:47:48.399 --> 01:47:52.760
idea that each of us is sovereign right that we

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01:47:52.800 --> 01:47:55.840
get to control our own reality, to the point of

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01:47:56.359 --> 01:47:58.520
we can say up as down, and down as up,

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01:47:58.640 --> 01:48:01.359
and you and I know, and what sex you feel like,

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01:48:01.600 --> 01:48:05.039
and what sex you feel like. It just it doesn't

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work right, And you can go ahead and beat your

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01:48:08.720 --> 01:48:11.840
head against the wall trying to pretend that it works,

2033
01:48:13.159 --> 01:48:17.640
but it doesn't. And so I think what we see

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01:48:17.680 --> 01:48:21.039
in Scripture is here's the way, the truth and the life,

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and when we give our lives to Christ, when we

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01:48:24.359 --> 01:48:28.079
submit our lives to God when we live by his rules.

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01:48:28.119 --> 01:48:30.640
What does he say that will have life and have

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01:48:30.720 --> 01:48:33.239
it to the full. We'll have it in abundance. And

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01:48:34.039 --> 01:48:37.359
the abundant life that Jesus talks about may or may

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01:48:37.399 --> 01:48:40.439
not always line up exactly with the American dream, right.

2041
01:48:40.479 --> 01:48:43.159
We tend to think about abundance in material terms, but

2042
01:48:44.039 --> 01:48:47.319
abundance of peace. You know, Paul says that godliness with

2043
01:48:47.439 --> 01:48:52.000
contentment is great gain. And man, there's a lot of

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01:48:52.000 --> 01:48:54.439
stuff that we engage with on screens that lead us

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01:48:54.439 --> 01:48:58.960
away from both godliness and contentment. So anyway, Parents' Guide

2046
01:48:59.079 --> 01:49:02.640
will help you navigate those things with your.

2047
01:49:02.520 --> 01:49:07.560
Family, right, and it will help you, you know, establish

2048
01:49:07.600 --> 01:49:11.199
those boundaries because what's happened is technology has come upon

2049
01:49:11.279 --> 01:49:14.119
us so quickly and guess what, it's NonStop with AI

2050
01:49:14.279 --> 01:49:16.520
now too, exactly, So when are you going to get

2051
01:49:16.520 --> 01:49:19.079
in front of it? Are you going to be reacting

2052
01:49:19.119 --> 01:49:22.159
to it constantly or do you need to really measure

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01:49:22.199 --> 01:49:24.640
and understand? And as parents, I believe we have a

2054
01:49:24.760 --> 01:49:28.600
duty to our children, yeah, you know, to offer those

2055
01:49:28.920 --> 01:49:32.399
those boundaries that will help them and not harm them.

2056
01:49:32.920 --> 01:49:36.560
Yeah, exactly. And frankly, as much as we sometimes try

2057
01:49:36.560 --> 01:49:39.920
to frame the screen issue as this is a problem

2058
01:49:39.960 --> 01:49:42.680
that the kids have. A lot of us need to

2059
01:49:42.720 --> 01:49:46.039
take a look in the mirror because our own tech

2060
01:49:46.079 --> 01:49:48.720
habits are out of whack and our kids are mostly

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01:49:48.760 --> 01:49:50.439
going to do what they see us doing. You know,

2062
01:49:50.479 --> 01:49:52.600
it is a monkey see, monkey do kind of world.

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01:49:52.640 --> 01:49:55.760
And you know, if you're frustrated with your kids behavior,

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01:49:56.600 --> 01:49:59.319
you know, it may be an opportunity to look at

2065
01:49:59.359 --> 01:50:01.560
your own and what are you modeling that they are

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01:50:01.600 --> 01:50:03.119
just unconsciously imitating.

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01:50:03.479 --> 01:50:06.920
Well, even from the standpoint of realizing as you go,

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01:50:07.479 --> 01:50:12.720
you know, and involve yourself with tech and all these

2069
01:50:12.760 --> 01:50:16.880
different rabbit holes that they send you on. And sometimes

2070
01:50:16.920 --> 01:50:18.560
you know, after you stop, you and I've had this

2071
01:50:18.600 --> 01:50:21.920
discussion and you go, wow, I just wasted thirty minutes.

2072
01:50:22.319 --> 01:50:23.199
Yeah, exactly.

2073
01:50:23.359 --> 01:50:26.880
Okay, Now this is you, as an adult making the assessment. Now,

2074
01:50:27.079 --> 01:50:29.600
what what is the teenager? How are they going to

2075
01:50:29.640 --> 01:50:32.359
assess that when you know you've sent them to bed

2076
01:50:32.439 --> 01:50:34.720
and you think they're in bed and they're up till

2077
01:50:34.800 --> 01:50:37.079
four o'clock in the morning going down rabbit holes.

2078
01:50:37.560 --> 01:50:39.800
Right, that's exactly right, And that's you know, one of

2079
01:50:39.800 --> 01:50:43.600
the primary boundaries that we encourage is no smartphones in

2080
01:50:43.640 --> 01:50:48.880
the bedroom because bad things come of it. Right, Maybe

2081
01:50:48.920 --> 01:50:52.479
they stay up too late, maybe they encounter pornography. Maybe

2082
01:50:52.520 --> 01:50:55.479
it's nothing anywhere near that nefarious. But they have some

2083
01:50:56.079 --> 01:50:59.319
you know, wing nut friend who sends them a text

2084
01:50:59.319 --> 01:51:02.600
at three thirty in the morning and their notification goes off,

2085
01:51:02.640 --> 01:51:06.039
and they're curious. Right, Like when somebody texts me in

2086
01:51:06.039 --> 01:51:08.560
the middle of the night, if I hear the notification,

2087
01:51:08.680 --> 01:51:11.119
I'll probably be like, oh, this must be important, or

2088
01:51:11.119 --> 01:51:12.800
they wouldn't be texting me at three point thirty in

2089
01:51:12.840 --> 01:51:15.760
the morning. But you know, it's their friend that stayed

2090
01:51:15.840 --> 01:51:19.000
up all night, right, So it's not always that what

2091
01:51:19.079 --> 01:51:22.960
they're going to encounter encounter is you know, the most

2092
01:51:23.239 --> 01:51:28.079
diabolical thing out there. But when they get into these patterns,

2093
01:51:28.119 --> 01:51:31.840
we know, we know increasingly that sleep is important. We

2094
01:51:31.880 --> 01:51:35.319
know that screens interfere with sleep, and we know that

2095
01:51:35.560 --> 01:51:38.600
both of those things are especially true for teenagers whose

2096
01:51:38.640 --> 01:51:42.199
brains are still developing. And you know, one other thing

2097
01:51:42.239 --> 01:51:45.119
we know is that the teen mind, one of the

2098
01:51:45.159 --> 01:51:49.840
things that develops really slowly is consequential thinking, right, and

2099
01:51:49.920 --> 01:51:54.159
consequential decision making. It's not really until about twenty five.

2100
01:51:54.600 --> 01:51:58.119
I know I'm surprised or hardwired. I was surprised at

2101
01:51:58.119 --> 01:52:02.520
that age, you know, the psychiatrist, modern day you know,

2102
01:52:02.600 --> 01:52:06.159
philosophers have come up with that number. I thought it

2103
01:52:06.199 --> 01:52:08.960
was a lot younger, but they're saying twenty you know,

2104
01:52:09.039 --> 01:52:12.000
twenty five, and you're thinking, whoa, you know that's yeah.

2105
01:52:12.159 --> 01:52:17.159
And so when your kids do bone headed things, yeah,

2106
01:52:17.239 --> 01:52:20.960
we need discipline. Sometimes there are consequences, but that's an

2107
01:52:21.000 --> 01:52:24.520
important thing to understand as well. And I think one

2108
01:52:24.520 --> 01:52:26.600
of the things I try to communicate to my kids,

2109
01:52:26.640 --> 01:52:29.119
and they will often say, Dad, you know you're the

2110
01:52:29.159 --> 01:52:33.760
worst offender here, is that order and structure tend to

2111
01:52:33.840 --> 01:52:38.520
beget order and structure and chaos begets more chaos. And

2112
01:52:38.560 --> 01:52:41.319
so when these disciplines slip out of control in our

2113
01:52:41.359 --> 01:52:44.680
lives there it's sort of like and I've probably used

2114
01:52:44.720 --> 01:52:49.439
this metaphor before, or similarly, it's like spilling a glass

2115
01:52:49.439 --> 01:52:51.399
of water on a kitchen table with a bunch of

2116
01:52:51.439 --> 01:52:54.439
stuff on it, right, the water just goes everywhere, it

2117
01:52:54.479 --> 01:52:58.000
fills in the cracks. And unfortunately, that is a sort

2118
01:52:58.039 --> 01:53:01.720
of apt picture for our relationship with tech. We're just

2119
01:53:01.880 --> 01:53:04.880
used to picking up our phones now, many of us

2120
01:53:05.960 --> 01:53:08.520
every second. That we're not doing anything else, and so

2121
01:53:09.760 --> 01:53:13.000
and again the researchers say that creates problems too, because

2122
01:53:13.000 --> 01:53:16.000
our minds are not meant to engage with information and

2123
01:53:16.079 --> 01:53:19.439
images twenty four to seven. They need to be followed.

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01:53:19.520 --> 01:53:21.960
Actually being bored is a good thing. It gives our

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minds a rest.

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So anyway, well, speaking of which, let's talk a little

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bit of amusement here. What did you think about Song

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Sung Blue?

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You know, here's the PG movie that is, I think,

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at least loosely based on a true story. Hugh Jackman

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plays a guy who is a sort of a professional

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impersonator and he impersonates various singers, and he has a

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friend who says, you look just like Neil Diamond. You

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should do a Neil Diamond deal. And he's like, yeah, no,

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I'm not interested in that. But that ends up happening,

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and it sort of tells that story. So the funny

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thing is, when I actually saw the first trailer, I

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thought it was about Neil Diamond, Hugh Jackman is like,

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holy cow, how did we not see this right? Because

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he's a dead ringer and he can sing to boot,

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you know, So it's a PG thirteen biopic. I don't

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think it's going to have a whole lot of interest

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for most kids, but those of us of a certain

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tender age with an affinity for Neil Diamond probably will

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really enjoy it. You know, we've got some profanity, we've

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got some suggestive content. There's some drug and alcohol stuff

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going on here. So it's not perfect, but I think

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for an adult audience, there's not anything here that is

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a deal killer. And I will say I grew up

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my dad listened to Neil Diamond and the Beach Boys,

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and I mean those are my first musical memories, and

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so this is a fun movie. From that perspective, I

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get it.

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If nothing else, you'll be singing Sweet Caroline, you know

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exactly hours of.

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The night exactly. I want to watch baseball, and I

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don't know why exactly.

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Well, here it is, ladies and gentlemen, a new year,

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some new resolutions. May they work for you? And evaluate

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those resolutions? Does it add or take away? Does it

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help you create a better version for yourself for this

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year in twenty twenty six? And I think that we

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can look forward to I don't know, I just have

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this sense, Adam, that twenty twenty six is going to

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be an incredible gear on so many levels.

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I really believe that I am with you and that

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we're off, you know, with a kind of a bang.

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Already.

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We could talk about current events for the next hour,

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but certainly there's a lot going on in the world,

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and as always, we want to help you think about

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the entertainment and screen portion of that world.

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Right exactly. Don't you love it when God's up to

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his god thing?

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He is? And the good news is he is up

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to that god thing every single day, so we don't

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have to worry about him taking a day off.

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Yeah, because he loves you. That's why exactly. Amen. Adam

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Holtz from plugged in dot Com Right.

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Yep, plugged in dot com. We are a ministry and

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focus on the family.

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