Feb. 19, 2026

The Bill Martinez Show 02 19 26

The Bill Martinez Show 02 19 26
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The Bill Martinez Show 02 19 26
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Are you ready? Yeah, Okay, let's do it.

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Ill Martinez Live a program about current events, our culture,

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our values, our politics, and our future.

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And now Bill Martinez.

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Well, good morning, six minutes after the top of the

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r Right now, Bill Martinez here with Mike O'Neil from

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Landmark Legal. Hey, Mike, how we doing.

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What good to be with you.

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I'm doing lots to catch up on. I mean the

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Save accual pressure. You got to keep the pressure on Senate.

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Everybody's got to be calling their senators. I mean, last

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report is that we've got over fifty Republicans. I guess

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they're holding the line on this to really, you know,

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plant the flag on something. I think it's gonna be

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hugely significant, and especially as it relates to the midterms.

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Right absolutely, this is a really critical piece of law,

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of law that's that's languishing in the center right now.

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What was really disappointing to me was the fact that

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you're hearing from the leader John Thune that our Senate

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Majority Leader, John Thune, who's a Republican, he's saying they

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might not necessarily have the time to debate the Save

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Act on the well of the Senate. And I say

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that My response as simple as you guys took a

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recess this week. They've been off this week. So if

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they have time to go away to their jurisdictions and

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do whatever they want to do, then if they have

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time to take a recess for a week, then they

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certainly have time to put this important piece of legislation

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where incidentally, fifty Senators already support, and the American people

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overwhelmingly support. You're talking eighty four to ninety percent of

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American people believe that we should have voter identification. So

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this is important. This is important for Congress to get

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to this, for the Senate to put this to a vote.

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Do away with the zombie filibuster. Actually put this to

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a talking filibuster. Obligate the opponents to this legislation to

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stand in the well of the Senate, the Cory Bookers,

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the Chuck Schumers, the Dick Durbins. Let them express their

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opposition to voter identification to the American people in a

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traditional filibuster that we all know that's consistent with the

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rules of the Senate. Put this to the vote asap well.

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And the thing is is that seventy percent of Democrats

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yeah voter ID So how do you how do you

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tell you know three fourths of your constituency. You guys

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don't know what you're talking about, right.

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Yeah, exactly seventy percent. And this is this cuts across

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racial and demographic lines as well. We're talking over seventy

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percent of African Americans believe that you should have identification

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to vote, So that kind of cuts against that. Well,

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Jim co two point zero spiel that the the Democrats

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are coming out, But really, again, my request is simple here,

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Let's just do your job. This is an overwhelmingly popular

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piece of legislation. The American people are behind. The President

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of the United States is behind. He was voted by

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in twenty twenty four. The one of the one of

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the issues that Donald Trump ran on was voter integrity

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and voter identification. Put this to a vote for the Senate.

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This is not this is your job. This is what

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you're put in office to do. And for them to

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make it. For the leadership, for for this, for this

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to be held hostage, this legislation to be a held

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hostage by just a few senators is really be on

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the pale. I hope that the Republican Senators, the leadership

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that is holding this up. Understand the ramifications if they

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don't put this to a vote with the base, and

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how disappointing this is going to be to the to

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the base of the Republican Party. And this is one

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of our premier issues. If you ask any Republican what

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are your top issues, obviously they're going to say the economy,

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but of course included and that is in their top

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three or four issues is going to be voter integrity.

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This is a serious issue, and this begins to put

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us on the path of restoring the integrity of the

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voter system, of the electoral system that we've all lost

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faith in. And so it's imperative that that's the Senate

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acts as soon as possible.

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Well, you're exactly right, I mean, because when you look

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at the polling, over sixty percent, Michael have their doubts

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that America can do a free and fair election because

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nothing has been fixed. All we get we just we're

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all being treated like mushrooms, so to speak, as they say,

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kept in the dark and fed manure. And you know,

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we're just saying, okay, what happened? I mean, we have

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this this Foe jan six committee, you know, group that

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comes together that you know, it was a big waste

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of money. What did we get out of that? But

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other than, you know, some sort of validation for the

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Democratic talking points. But they missed the whole point of

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January sixth. You needed to look at the predicate of

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January sixth, which was the people were upset because the

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election came into question. And here it is, with all

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the smart people and all the King's men and everything else,

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we cannot put together an election that it looks something

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like something out of Bolivia or some third world country.

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Well, and again, this isn't this isn't a cure all

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for everything. But at least again it begins to acknowledge

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that our election system is broken and that certain states

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have removed any in all reasonable protections. Look, I understand

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the time, place, and manner argument, but Congress is a

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word to play here. And that went a state like

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California or Oregon and other states that are really Democrat

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controlled they removed any and all reasonable reasonable protections, then

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we've lost faith in this. And so then Congress can

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step in into that breach and fill the void and

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enact these common sense measures. And again, all we're asking

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for are three things number one, identification for when you vote.

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Number two verification of your citizenship when you register to vote,

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and number three identify and remove non citizens from the

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voting roles. This is not hard, This is not These

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are controversial measures. Again, as you said, overwhelming, the overwhelming

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majority of the American people believe in this. Congress needs

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to get this done asap. We see every day we

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see more and more evidence comes out about the improprieties

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of what happened in twenty twenty. We understand that that

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election was rigged. The Left took advantage of the Democrats,

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took advantage of the COVID emergency to put in all

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these nonsensical laws like vote universal voter mail in voting,

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opening up the voting process for weeks before, both before

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and after election day. Removed again all any and all

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these reasonable, reasonable productions. This does the simple thing about

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puts us on the road to restoring integrity. Contest needs

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to vote on this, well, the House, I should. I'm

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not going to give houses as a pass. They've already voted,

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they've done their job. The Senate to vote on this

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as soon as possible. And again, time is of the

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essence here because if they get this through. They need

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to get it through in order for it to be

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implemented before the twenty twenty six elect midterm elections. Remember,

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we have to have the process has to be in

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place so that state election officials in the regulatory process

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can be built, can be implemented, so that we can

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have these this law in place and these regulations in

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place before the November coming upcoming elections.

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Well, this is why Schumer and the rest of the Democrats,

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they're trying to run the clock out right, you know.

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And they may they may come up with some sort

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of compromise, but it won't be in effect in twenty

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twenty six, and it might be it might be an

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effect in twenty twenty eight. But what they look at is, hey,

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that gives us more days to come against that, and

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we'll will interfere with twenty twenty eight, even though they'll

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tell you upfront, I mean, is like, this is like

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dealing with Iran or Cutter or somebody that's so two faced,

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you know. And meanwhile, it is the legitimacy of our

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elections that's hanging in the balance. And what brought it

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all to the focal point again is more of democratic policies.

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In this specific case, you got millions of illegal immigrants

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who have come into the country, and uh, you know

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even I mean this, this is such a joke. Utah

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did a an inspection and they did an audit on there.

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I don't know if you if you saw this or not,

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but they did an audit on their on their voter

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lugs and they found only one illegal immigrant voted. Only one.

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I mean, yeah, it's interesting. When you actually get into

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the nuts and bolts of this, it's very, very difficult

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to establish this. Okay, let me give you the hypothetical

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how you walk it through. In California, everybody gets a

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mail ballot. Every name on the on the voter world

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gets a mail ballot, right, and so there's no there's

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no verification to ensure that you're eligible on the mail

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ballot or even if you live. So you fill out

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your mail ballot, you put it in the stream of commerce.

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It goes in there with millions of other ballots. So

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when you have millions of votes cast, thousands of them

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can be ineligible ballots. But actually sorting out pulling those

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out from the commerce. Think about it as a river, right,

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and so once you toss what you toss your bucket

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of water into the river, it's pretty hard to separate

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that that bucket of water from the bigger river. So

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actually identifying and pulling them out after the fact is

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really really a hurt Gillian task. And that's why it's

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so difficult to show to prove voter fraud. When you

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actually prove voter front, it's really hard because you have

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to segregate out those fraudulently cast ballots, show that they're dispositive.

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What the processes and people like me always argue for

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it is simple. You put protections in place beforehand, exactly

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before you can get to the river to throw that bucket,

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and you never get to the river in the first place.

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So what do you do? Okay, you say, Secretaries of

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state who are in tasks with ensuring the integrity of

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the verter roles, you say, you give them the information

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necessary so that they can verify that the people who

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the names on their vert roles are actually eligible to vote.

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In other words, if you go to the DMV and

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you say you're not a citizen, and yet some and

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you indicate you're not a citizen, but you get a

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drive license, that information should be shared with the Secretary

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of the state. So the Secretary of the state can say, hey,

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Mike O'Neill acknowledge he's not a citizen when he got

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his driver's license, and yet his name's here on the

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voter role. Let's get him off the voter roll. He's

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another idea for you. This is a simple one. When

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you go to and this happens all the time. If

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you show up for jury duty, you're called the jury

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duty and by the way, those are from the voter

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rolls too, and the driving roles. So when you show

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up to vote to jury duty and you say I'm

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not a citizen, I'm ineligible to serve on jury because

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I'm not a citizen, Well the courthouse should take that

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information and communicate it to the Registrar of voters, saying,

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Mike O'Neil just acknowledged yesterday and in exempting himself from

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jury duty, that he's not a citizen. Here's the information.

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Let's see if he's on the voter rolls, and let's

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remove him again. Common sense measures that these that state

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agencies can do, but they're not doing this exact. They

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need to do it immediately.

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Got to go to break We've got more from Mike O'Neil.

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minutes after the top of the er, Mic O'Neil from

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bow around the say back that the pressure we need

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to maintain pressure on the Senate. So make a phone

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Absolutely, come to Landmark Legal dot org. Check out I

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rove an editorial on red State that showed up a

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couple of weeks ago. I mean absolutely, But again, it's

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imperative that the Senate move on this as soon as possible.

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And I just I really really have faith. I think

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that there's enough senators, as you said, fifty plus are

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supporting this. We have a majority now if you include

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the Vice President and the Senate. I think that this

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is going to have to come to vote. I think

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that the base of our party, of the party, the

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Republican Party, is speaking out with one solid voice, and

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I think that they understand. I think the message is

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beginning to resonate with the leadership.

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Yeah, I think you're exactly right. I think it would

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be a kick in the gut to the base.

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Yeah, if the Senate fails them, and you talk about disenfranchisement,

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this will keep Republican voters at home. And the Democrats

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are the Democrats are burning novena candles for that.

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Absolutely, they want to drag this out as long as possible.

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They really are. They are hoping that the Senate, that

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the leadership fumbles this and that it will be it will,

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as you say, it will be a really deflating, deflating

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event for any any of the Republicans in the base.

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And you know, I think that the midterm elections are

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what they are, but this is this is why we

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voted for who we voted for, and we want to

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see some basic, you know, common sense electoral measure, election

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integrity measures implemented at the national level.

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such that it's caused Donald Trump to go out on

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the campaign trail. He's he's looking at the midterm like

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it's a general election because basically, I mean, his political

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life hangs in the balance in a sense that if

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the Democrats take over leadership, you know what's going to happen.

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to go. I mean, everybody's going to get impeached. And

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our government, I mean, forget about our government, uh, you know,

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being closed. I mean it will be totally distracted and

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we'll be running off these crazy policies that got us

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in trouble to begin with. And we're gonna, you know,

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forget about the debt, forget about the economy, forget about affordability.

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I mean, all that will be you know, cast to

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the win because the Democrats are going to rev up

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their base and saying, hey, look at what we're doing

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here with all these impeachments and everything. So yeah, this

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is I believe America, in our country is hanging in

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the balance over the midterm. So hopefully, prayerfully that we

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break tradition, Mike, and that you know, the ruling power

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is not adversely affected, which has been the tradition. Unfortunately. Anyway,

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I want to talk about Munique, Munich, Germany and what's

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going on your hair. A Casio Cortez. I said this

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right away when I saw her go. She just cooked

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her political career.

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I have not ready for prime time.

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I don't know how she survives this.

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But she wouldn't be the first Democrat to go internationally

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and fumble things and then try to come to come

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back for this. And I think she's so beloved by

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the base, but certainly, yeah, fumble after fumble, she couldn't

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answer the basic question about China. When you go on

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the international stage, you have to expect some certain fundamental questions.

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And of course it's not really out of the realm

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of possibility that a reporter is going to ask you

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about the Taiwan situation and how you would react to

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that if you were the leader of the United States,

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and what would be in what your take on that is,

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and that's that's pretty much. You should have that answer

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in place. You should have that in the back of

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your mind, prepared to answer that sort of question. Fundamental

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other understanding of geopolitics at Venezuela, of course, is north

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of the equators, south of the equator. I don't think

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she understands Mexico that horses were brought over from Spain

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to Mexico and again Spain the idea of a cowboy,

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which was again referenced by Marco Rubio and his exceptional speech.

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of styles. Here, you see Marco Rubio, who gave really

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one of the a fantastic I mean, I don't remember

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any Secretary of States giving great speeches in my life.

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I mean, Henry Kissinger kind of stands out for me

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as one of the premier I guess secretaries of State.

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But certainly Marco Rubio is coming forward with just these

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just these banger speeches that just resonate with not only

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the United States, but the entire world and the Europeans.

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You've got the European quote unquote elite sitting there, and

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he rouses them to a standing ovation by talking about

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our shared heritage where we come from, all of the

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you know, I kind of say, he's got really this

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velvet glove and really approaches it from a Christian perspective.

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Speak truth with love, you know, truth with love. I

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think it's really important he gives them. He delivers these

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hard truths to the Europeans and to America, these these

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these difficulties that we're facing in the twenty first century.

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And yet he does it in such a fashion that

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you're saying, oh, okay, you're not in your head in agreement.

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How can you disagree with what he's saying, even though

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it's a tough thing to hear, it's something that we

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need to hear. So I think he gave a fantastic speech. Obviously.

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Contrasts that with AOC, who is a disaster on the

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international stage, and you see what the stage is set

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for our future.

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Well exactly, I you know, that's that's the air thing.

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You're exactly right, the glaring contrast between you know, whether

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it's AOC or the other Democrat talking heads, you know,

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Gavin Newsom, and that, I mean you can tell. I

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mean they're just you talk about not being ready for

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prime time. I mean this is like the jvs versus

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the varsity team.

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Yeah, they're just not serious. And what comes out is

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these are not serious people. I mean their entire careers

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and their personas are just based on lies and falsehoods

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and just a house of cards. And whenever they're pushed

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to the limit and the wader meets the road with

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these folks, is you see that the vapidity of what

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they have to say. I mean, Kevin Newsome, I can't

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believe he even has the nerve to show himself in

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public after being leading this failed state for decades and decades.

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I mean, what is when has come out of California

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that's been good for the country in the past thirty

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or forty years. Nothing. It's just a disaster. And you

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can't even solve basic, you know, basic things. The Palisades fire,

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for example, the Malibu fire, what happened there? It just

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encapsulates California. That the billions of dollars spent on infrastructure

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for California that just goes nowhere. Yet this guy continues

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to show himself in public I don't understand. Similarly, AOC,

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what has she done other than be just a voice

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of lunacy for the left and when they're pushed to

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the when they're out there in the public sphere and

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the light shines brightest on them, they weather.

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I'll tell you the one thing, you know, there's no

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doubt the mainstream media, the legacy media, has hurt Republicans

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in a way because they you know, they put out

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the Democratic talking points. They're not interested in doing anything

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any investigating, investigative reporting, or anything like that. But by

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the coddle goes, when they left goes out to present

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a speech and act as if or even presenting offer

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some sort of presentation of intellect. They look absolutely goofy.

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And this is and we can thank the mainstream media

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because who's asking the questions overseas. It's it's not the

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legacy media here of America. It's the people in Europe,

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the journalists in Europe that are asking just real simple

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questions like, hey, tell me about Taiwan. Oh, It's like,

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how embarrassing?

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You know?

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Right?

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Yeah, I think you're right. They live in these these

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bubbles where that they're just surrounded by yes, yes people

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all the time and never really put to the test,

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and their their their worldview is never tested in such

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a way where they actually have to answer moderately uncomfortable.

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I don't think that a question about Taiwan is moderately uncomfortable.

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It's not even it's just a it's just a normal,

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regular question you should be expected to get when you're

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walking onto the international stage. Because that's probably the premiere

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issue facing our country going forward when it comes to

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international diplomacy is how are you going to face off

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against the Chinese visa VI Taiwan? Right, and to not

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be prepped on that. But again it's it's kind of

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like it's the Kamala Harris situation too. She could never

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answer any of those questions. And I think you're right

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it does come from it's an outgrowth of this coddling

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that they receive on the at behest of the mainstream media.

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Well, and as you said, it's uh, it's Laharris two

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point zero. It's like, wait a minute, it didn't work

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for you, then, how do you think it's going to

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work again? And you just keep on, you know, doing

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the same thing as the as the term insanity indicates,

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and expecting different results. But it's it's just it's horrendous.

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I mean, you sit there and think, you know, we're

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going to give the keys to the car back to

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back to the Democratic Party again.

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I don't know. I just again just to go back

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to domestically, I think that we have we've had a

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window here and I think you made a good point

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earlier about what would happen if the Left isn't you know,

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it takes control of Congress. And one of the issues

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I wanted to say when you were when you raise

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that is there's not going to be any permanency to

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the Trump administration. If the if Congress flips over to

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the Democrats, the window has now been open and it

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can be extended for an additional two years in that

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the codification of the executive actions. Remember all of these

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things that the president can do only so much as

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president he can issue these executive orders and these presidential orders,

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and they can they can only they can only survive

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as long as the president. The succeeding presidents continue to

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agree to those, they can rescind them the minute they

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take office. So if you want to have any of

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the permanency of this, if you want to have a

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legacy for the Trump administration for some of the things

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that he's been that the President Trump has been doing,

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you need to have some sort of legislation that works

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on that. Otherwise, you know, as you say, a succeeding

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president can just throw those out the window. So you know,

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it's imperative that that the Republicans do something, do something

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as soon as possible with regard to the Save Act.

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The takeaway again, when you see what happens, you see

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the contrast of styles with Marco Rubio and AOC on

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the international stage, I think it couldn't be clear. I

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think our path forward is obvious, and yet we'll see

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Glad you can join us.

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We've got doctor Wilfrid Riley joining us, a professor of

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political science at Kentucky State University. Hey, well, good morning

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Morton Bill.

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How are you Hey?

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I'm done great. I just my question is inquiring one

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of people you know want know, is why are we

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paying these people to shut down the government.

581
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That's a good question. I mean you could ask why

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we're paying the people in Congress not to work half

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the year in the first place. Man, So it's a

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pretty good job. You get paid two hundred thousand dollars

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a year you work I think one hundred sixty seven

586
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days all told. But yeah, I mean if there's a

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government shut down, obviously they get paid the full amount

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to not work. I mean, this is another set of

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things they're fighting about. They're going to take the Save

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Act probably to the Mattress as a couple other bills.

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There's not really an answer other than that we've gotten

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to a point right now where we are in such

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a state of partisan gridlock that the government's not functioning normally.

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What they're supposed to do is pass consistent annual budgets

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and then fund the budgets with a series of authorization

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and appropriations of bills. You might correct me, but I

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don't think they've done that since the mid twenty tens.

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I mean, you usually have some kind of continuing resolution

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keeps the government going at one hundred and two percent

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of the previous year's expenditures or whatever. And the reason

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for that is that the two parties can't stand each other.

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I mean, we lead, right, so we're probably both going

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to put this more on the Democrats. But it's just very,

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very hard to have those old Rivald Reagan, Tip O'Neil

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sit downs and actually get things done. So this is

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this is just the most extreme version of noncompetence. Like

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at the margins, you just everything shuts down. You just

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don't have money for that month.

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Well, and the thing that amazed me and you and

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I talked about this the last time, Will, is that

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it's not so much about Republicans versus Democrats what I

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see and it has come down to now because we've

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been at each other's throats for so long, as you say,

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for decades here it's either your you know, pro American

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or you're anti American. You know, this partisan politics is ugly,

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it's messy, it's not getting us anywhere. And I think

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we you know, I think in the days, as you say,

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with Tip O'Neil and Ronald Reagan, whether you were left

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or right, you were still pro American. What we argued

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about was the process. How were we going to get

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to the goal. And that's what I saw when I

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was growing up. Now it's not about it's not about

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the goal. You know, we're talking Chinese food and they're

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talking you know, Spaghettio's or something altogether or maybe even

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I don't know, it's just it's not of the same

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you know, genre, it seems, and so how can you

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how can you have a conversation when your reality is

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so different?

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Yeah, I mean I think traditionally there was an expectation

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that elected officials for a country would like that country

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and would have a pretty much similar idea of what

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the country should be at root, and so the disputes

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would be about the best way to get there. So,

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in foreign policy terms, the Democrats might favor a softer,

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you catch more flies with honey approach, and Reublicans might

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favor speak softly and carry a big stick. But the

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assumption would be that both of the political factions would

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think the USA was a good and honorable country, would

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want to extend American strength overseas, that sort of thing.

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I don't really know if you can make that assumption today.

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I mean, so there are yeah, yeah, but I mean

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so you pretty regularly see these polls where people are asked,

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do you think the United States is a good place? So,

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do you think capitalism is a good economic system? And

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like among young people who lean left, you often see

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these pretty crazy no findings where forty or fifty percent

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of people will just say no, I don't. And I

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think now, by the way, in backlash to this, because

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you've heard for decades, you've had people saying, I think

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whiteness is bad, I think America is bad. You're starting

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to see this among young people on the right, where

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like Curtis Jarvin, a moldbug for example, as a guy

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i've bantered with online. I mean, his idea is that

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democracy is not anymore, so we need a king. So

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I think that they're an increasing that it's funny like it,

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he's an enjoyable guy a dinner party. But like when

657
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you actually have people who are saying, well, no, I

658
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don't agree with the core idea of America. I think

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we need a bourbon monarch or I think we need

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a communist system, then it becomes increasingly hard to hold

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the country together and less thing. But like, as a

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as an academic, we think of this in terms of

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standard deviation. So like you got the Bell curve, most

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people fall somewhere around the middle of like what you

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call a distribution of data. But as like the pool

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of people spreads wider as you get more ethnic and

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economic and so on diversity and more political diversity. It

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actually becomes harder to keep people together. And I think

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that's what you're getting today, Like we have such a

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wide range of views about what we should even be

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that it's becoming increasingly hard to run the country. If

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you like the abolished Ice movement, If you don't think

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we should have borders, what kind of immigration policy do

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you want? It's going to be damn difficult for you

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to have one. I mean it's an issue.

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Well yeah, and that's the thing. See, some of these

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things are like eight seconds sound bites or they're a

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bumper sticker slogan, and when you you know, have you know,

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you know you want to break it down. It's almost

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like watching I don't know, if you saw AOC overseas

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in Munich. What oh yeah, yea, what a train wreck.

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I mean a poor girl. I mean she just set

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her political career decades back, I think, and maybe just

684
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totally annihilated herself altogether. I don't know. The Democrats have

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a way of resurrecting themselves even when you think there's

686
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just no way. I mean they're already six feet under

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and laid out, and somehow they come to be born again.

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But she was just she's just awful, and I think

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she just injured her political career severely. And that's what

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a lot of these lefties do is because they don't

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have enough substance. They're indoctrinated in a classroom by ideologues

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that you know, they got everybody nodding their head in

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the whole deal, and there's no way to challenge to say, okay, help,

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let's let's talk about a monarch. I mean, here Iron's

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talking about, you know, the possibility of bringing a monarchy back.

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But a lot of people on the streets, who are

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you know, having their Patrick Henry give me death or

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you know, give me liberty or give me death moment,

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they're saying, hell, no, we don't want to go back

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to a monarchy. We want a democratic, non nuclear, you know,

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contributing entity to the Middle East. I mean, it's and

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they want nothing to do with His Royal Highness.

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Yeah, I mean so, I do think we need to

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have these conversations really openly in academia. That that is

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one of the problems in fact, that the various paths

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for society aren't discussed all that openly. I mean, we've

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talked about the actual data on this show, but about

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ninety three percent of college professors lean to the left.

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They're mostly on the center left, but you know, leftist

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liberal or left leaning moderate. Most of them were Hillary

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00:36:04.920 --> 00:36:06.840
Clinton voters, that kind of thing. So yeah, you're not

712
00:36:06.920 --> 00:36:09.119
really you're not talking about anything on the right. I mean,

713
00:36:09.199 --> 00:36:11.719
most of most college students leave not knowing who Thomas

714
00:36:11.800 --> 00:36:14.320
soul is. He might read a little Hiatt, but it

715
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really is pretty depressing. But I mean, you're not you're

716
00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:21.000
not necessarily talking about monarchy either. You discuss communism, but

717
00:36:21.119 --> 00:36:24.119
not a lot of the other sort of left, leftist

718
00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:27.039
center theories. But yeah, I think that's that's an issue,

719
00:36:27.440 --> 00:36:29.880
you know, it's it's a problem you've got a badly

720
00:36:30.119 --> 00:36:35.039
educated population that's extremely diverse and that disagrees on very

721
00:36:35.280 --> 00:36:39.679
core issues and that that's also mass immigration isn't helping

722
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with that. I mean, actually, interestingly, white and Latino Americans

723
00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:45.320
are pretty close on a lot of issues, and that's

724
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something that we're we're actually very lucky in terms of

725
00:36:48.440 --> 00:36:50.760
where immigration comes from. And I could see both like

726
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white and Spanish guys se what to that. But when

727
00:36:54.079 --> 00:36:56.719
you look at when you look at mass migration in Europe,

728
00:36:56.880 --> 00:37:00.280
it's from the the Islamic Magrab it's from North Africa.

729
00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:03.719
The Europeans and the North Africans have been fighting since

730
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the Crusades. They can't stand each other. So you're really

731
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dealing with a lot of issues like the grooming gangs

732
00:37:10.119 --> 00:37:12.639
that come directly out of that, that come out of

733
00:37:12.679 --> 00:37:16.960
this century's long ethnic war. In the USA, I mean,

734
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the sources of immigration are like Mexico, Chile, Puerto Rico, Venezuela.

735
00:37:23.880 --> 00:37:26.679
I mean, these are there's there's teasing back and forth,

736
00:37:26.719 --> 00:37:29.159
but these are fairly stable states, and I think pretty

737
00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:32.559
soon you're actually going to see something like what happened

738
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with the Italians and Irish happened here and that that

739
00:37:38.159 --> 00:37:40.400
may not be occurring as of yet, but like when

740
00:37:40.440 --> 00:37:42.719
you look at the demographics of ICE, something that's really

741
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surprising to the Democrats in the USA is that forty

742
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percent of ICE agents are Hispanic. So this isn't this

743
00:37:48.440 --> 00:37:52.159
isn't all immigration, but I mean, overall, when you talk

744
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about like these gaps growing, immigration does play a role here.

745
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And an example would be the Muslim woman who went

746
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viral the other day for saying that she didn't want

747
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to see any more dogs in New York City and

748
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This started this entire controversy. She said dogs are filthy

749
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in Islam, so you can either keep your dog outside

750
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or get rid of your dog, or you can't have

751
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any more Muslim neighbors, and this caused a frantic backlash.

752
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Congressman Randy Fine said, if it comes down to dogs

753
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or Muslims, it's a pretty easy choice. Keep your dog.

754
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And now he today on Twitter on X has been pilloried.

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All these people are screaming at him about Oh.

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I bet anyway, We'll pick it up. On the other side,

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Wilford Romey of the professor of political science at Conducty

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State University, the author of Taboo. Ten Facts you Can't

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talk about in Lies. My liberal teacher taught me, you know,

839
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speaking of New York and certainly you know Muslims. I mean,

840
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look at how many Mosque are coming into America now,

841
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will I mean, it's amazing. They're buying up land, and

842
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you know, it seems that the Muslims are doing something

843
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that my old teacher, Chuck Missler taught me about in

844
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terms of how Muslims would come in. They're not looking

845
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to assimilate. You know, we talked about immigration. Key to

846
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that successful immigration is when people assimilate saying, you know what,

847
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I like this great American idea. Let me bring my

848
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culture and my ideas to advance that idea. But what

849
00:43:28.679 --> 00:43:31.239
we're hearing from the Muslims coming in is they know

850
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they want to completely take over. So you've got the

851
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Muslim influence more and more. You speak of New York

852
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where they're having the call to prayer and Times Square.

853
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Now will whoever thought that would happen? Right?

854
00:43:45.920 --> 00:43:47.639
I don't think any of the founder fathers thought it

855
00:43:48.239 --> 00:43:50.440
when they were sailing over to Tripoli, that's for sure.

856
00:43:51.159 --> 00:43:55.039
So this gets into actually what empathy is. We hear

857
00:43:55.199 --> 00:43:58.320
constantly from the left, especially from left leaning women, about

858
00:43:58.400 --> 00:44:01.000
you guys, all these bros and on your side, you

859
00:44:01.039 --> 00:44:03.760
don't have empathy. Here's a picture of a crying kid,

860
00:44:03.880 --> 00:44:07.760
give up all rules. But what empathy actually is is

861
00:44:07.920 --> 00:44:11.039
the ability to think with the mind of another person

862
00:44:11.119 --> 00:44:13.079
and to view them as an equal. And if you

863
00:44:13.159 --> 00:44:17.360
know anything about Islam, yeah, Islam is not assimilationist. The

864
00:44:17.480 --> 00:44:20.760
idea of Islam is that it's the final religion, the

865
00:44:20.840 --> 00:44:24.599
final civilized religion. So they actually have some respect for Christians.

866
00:44:24.639 --> 00:44:28.400
They don't like Jews very much, but they think that

867
00:44:28.599 --> 00:44:33.039
Muhammad was an additional prophet who came after Jesus and Moses.

868
00:44:33.840 --> 00:44:36.440
People who convert to Islam are referred to as reverts.

869
00:44:36.480 --> 00:44:39.559
They're coming back home to the real faith. So yeah,

870
00:44:39.559 --> 00:44:42.320
there's not much idea of except in terms of clothing

871
00:44:42.440 --> 00:44:44.159
and talking to girls and so on. But there's not

872
00:44:44.280 --> 00:44:47.119
much idea that you're going to settle into the USA

873
00:44:47.280 --> 00:44:50.280
and become less passionate about being a Muslim and perhaps convert.

874
00:44:50.320 --> 00:44:53.159
I mean, the punishment for conversion is debt. So if

875
00:44:53.199 --> 00:44:56.159
you actually understand this, you understand what a lot of

876
00:44:56.199 --> 00:44:58.840
these things mean. Like, of course, if you're a passionate

877
00:44:58.920 --> 00:45:01.639
religious Muslim, you would want to convert as many other

878
00:45:01.719 --> 00:45:04.079
people to Islam as possible. To some extent, this is

879
00:45:04.159 --> 00:45:09.000
true for Christians. The mosque thing that's intentionally done to

880
00:45:09.159 --> 00:45:12.960
make a public statement and to some intent to intimidate.

881
00:45:13.639 --> 00:45:15.840
One of the ideas of Islam is that if there's

882
00:45:15.880 --> 00:45:19.840
been a military victory for Muslims, for a Muslim army,

883
00:45:19.920 --> 00:45:22.119
you should build a mosque within a mile or two

884
00:45:22.159 --> 00:45:25.119
of where that happened, right, So exactly, Yeah, And everyone

885
00:45:25.159 --> 00:45:27.800
has been in the military, everyone who's read the Islamic

886
00:45:27.880 --> 00:45:30.679
teachings knows that. So when you see people buying land

887
00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:34.760
within a mile or two of ground zero, that's probably

888
00:45:34.880 --> 00:45:38.320
why that is. There's not there hasn't suddenly been a

889
00:45:38.440 --> 00:45:43.320
desire to launch a religious establishment there, as opposed to

890
00:45:43.400 --> 00:45:46.280
in the much larger buildings that are available in Queens

891
00:45:46.360 --> 00:45:48.519
or Brooklyn. So like when you know this, when you

892
00:45:48.679 --> 00:45:50.679
understand this, you can respond to it and say, well,

893
00:45:50.679 --> 00:45:53.719
I'm going to tolerate some things but not others. If

894
00:45:53.760 --> 00:45:55.880
you're just looking at this in kind of a wide eyed,

895
00:45:56.000 --> 00:45:58.519
cheerful liberal fashion, you have you have no idea what's

896
00:45:58.599 --> 00:46:03.639
going on, and that's really dangerous position to be it. Yeah,

897
00:46:03.679 --> 00:46:05.760
I think that's that's pretty much the point there. And

898
00:46:06.119 --> 00:46:08.239
as for the thing with the dogs, that's an example

899
00:46:08.280 --> 00:46:11.960
of how every point can become contested when you do

900
00:46:12.119 --> 00:46:14.800
have one of those Towers of Babel societies. There's nothing

901
00:46:14.840 --> 00:46:17.400
wrong with diversity, but if you have one city where

902
00:46:17.400 --> 00:46:21.920
you have one hundred groups, you haven't mandated a single language,

903
00:46:22.039 --> 00:46:24.639
no one's encouraged to assimilate. You have all these basic

904
00:46:24.719 --> 00:46:26.800
issues where one guy owns one hundred and fifty pound

905
00:46:26.840 --> 00:46:29.599
cane corso, which is a man killing dog, although I

906
00:46:29.639 --> 00:46:32.400
love that breed, and another guy thinks dogs are filthy. Well,

907
00:46:32.440 --> 00:46:34.519
what do you do? You have to have some policy

908
00:46:34.719 --> 00:46:36.159
that lets these guys live together.

909
00:46:37.039 --> 00:46:40.000
We talk exactly, Well, look what's happening in Europe in England?

910
00:46:40.400 --> 00:46:44.119
I mean, how how the Muslim ideology? And you know,

911
00:46:44.159 --> 00:46:45.760
and I think that this is part of the confusion

912
00:46:45.840 --> 00:46:49.280
is we really don't understand in you know, the Muslims.

913
00:46:49.320 --> 00:46:52.599
We think, you know, we hear, Oh, it's even George W. Bush,

914
00:46:52.760 --> 00:46:53.840
it's a peaceful religion.

915
00:46:53.920 --> 00:46:54.320
Oh is it?

916
00:46:55.320 --> 00:46:58.159
You know, don't I don't see that. Historically that has

917
00:46:58.239 --> 00:47:01.239
not been the case, you know, And now they've been

918
00:47:01.280 --> 00:47:05.760
on a very aggressive march in the recent decades where

919
00:47:05.800 --> 00:47:08.199
they're taken over. I mean, look, look what they're doing

920
00:47:08.239 --> 00:47:11.039
in Europe as you mentioned, I mean, they're changing demographs,

921
00:47:11.599 --> 00:47:13.960
They've got you know, Mosco all over the place. To

922
00:47:14.079 --> 00:47:16.679
call to prayer, I mean, just what you want to

923
00:47:16.719 --> 00:47:18.559
hear in your neighborhood. All of a sudden, you wake

924
00:47:18.679 --> 00:47:20.800
up at five in the morning to the call to prayer,

925
00:47:20.840 --> 00:47:22.679
You're going, huh, you know, you know, and as you

926
00:47:22.760 --> 00:47:26.320
talk about whether it's dogs or you know, some horn blaring,

927
00:47:26.559 --> 00:47:29.639
you know, down your neighborhood, you know, how do we

928
00:47:29.719 --> 00:47:30.679
cohabitate with that?

929
00:47:32.639 --> 00:47:34.920
I mean, at one point, obviously, is that you don't

930
00:47:35.159 --> 00:47:39.960
have to like I think that there's there's a tendency

931
00:47:40.440 --> 00:47:46.159
in Christianity, maybe especially Protestant Christianity, to become excessively soft.

932
00:47:47.159 --> 00:47:51.280
The idea is that yours there are phrases in the

933
00:47:51.360 --> 00:47:54.920
Bible like love the least of these. You know, if

934
00:47:55.000 --> 00:47:57.199
you hit struck on one cheek, turn the other cheek.

935
00:47:57.760 --> 00:47:59.480
There are also phrases in the Bible like I come

936
00:47:59.559 --> 00:48:01.679
not with he's but a sword, so I mean the

937
00:48:02.119 --> 00:48:05.280
you know, the Knights Templar didn't have much problem figuring

938
00:48:05.320 --> 00:48:08.559
out justifications for war over the years. But there is

939
00:48:08.639 --> 00:48:13.320
this tendency to say, unless sorely provoked, you shouldn't use violence,

940
00:48:13.360 --> 00:48:16.360
you should be hostile to others. And this can be

941
00:48:16.519 --> 00:48:20.639
exploited by people who are aggressive and who don't feel

942
00:48:20.719 --> 00:48:24.599
the same way toward you. And I think that we're

943
00:48:25.239 --> 00:48:27.199
to get to the point. I think we've definitely seen

944
00:48:27.239 --> 00:48:30.039
a lot of that in Europe, where the pitch to

945
00:48:30.079 --> 00:48:34.480
the European authorities was there are these people that are refugees,

946
00:48:34.960 --> 00:48:37.159
you know, cast onto the seas by these wars in

947
00:48:37.199 --> 00:48:39.880
the Middle East, even though these wars have almost nothing

948
00:48:39.920 --> 00:48:42.840
to do with you. If you're Germany, how can you

949
00:48:42.880 --> 00:48:46.239
say no to them? And you saw these good German

950
00:48:46.400 --> 00:48:49.239
Frau lines standing by train stations with signs that said

951
00:48:49.280 --> 00:48:52.400
refugees welcome my arms or open for refugees. You saw

952
00:48:52.440 --> 00:48:54.360
the internet make some edits to these signs, but it

953
00:48:54.480 --> 00:48:57.679
was my arms are open for refugees, like we care.

954
00:48:58.280 --> 00:49:00.599
And what happened in almost every case was that these

955
00:49:00.800 --> 00:49:03.599
young male warriors from usually the defeated side of these

956
00:49:03.639 --> 00:49:06.960
conflicts came to these countries. Many were hard working shopkeepers

957
00:49:07.039 --> 00:49:08.480
and such, but for the rest of them, I mean,

958
00:49:08.559 --> 00:49:12.679
crime rates doubled. There was a recent analysis of what

959
00:49:12.840 --> 00:49:15.800
we're called I think it was gangster rape assaults in

960
00:49:15.880 --> 00:49:18.360
Sweden that means like gang rapes or violent ones, not

961
00:49:18.519 --> 00:49:21.440
stuff at parties, and it turned out that only seven

962
00:49:21.559 --> 00:49:24.559
percent of them were committed by suites. So the ten

963
00:49:24.679 --> 00:49:27.679
percent or whatever of the country that came from mostly

964
00:49:27.719 --> 00:49:32.320
the Middle East Africa, was responsible for ninety three percent

965
00:49:32.519 --> 00:49:35.079
of the at least the serious attacks on women, not

966
00:49:35.199 --> 00:49:38.039
disputes between couples, people being drunk. And I mean, I

967
00:49:38.079 --> 00:49:39.800
guess the point I'm getting too is like you can

968
00:49:39.920 --> 00:49:42.400
simply say, well, no, we're not going to do this,

969
00:49:42.840 --> 00:49:45.519
and this would be the path I encourage Christians or

970
00:49:45.519 --> 00:49:48.719
the secular European societies to take. You at any point

971
00:49:48.800 --> 00:49:52.280
can just decide well, short of me aggressively doing evil,

972
00:49:52.360 --> 00:49:55.119
which you're not supposed to do, I don't really have

973
00:49:55.199 --> 00:49:59.159
any responsibility to help people that don't like me at all, Right,

974
00:49:59.320 --> 00:50:02.840
and we coul simply reverse the migration policy that we've

975
00:50:02.880 --> 00:50:06.639
had on the books. We could close the borders, sink

976
00:50:06.800 --> 00:50:09.760
boats full of armed men that are coming in if necessary,

977
00:50:09.880 --> 00:50:11.480
and to do a start some of the people we

978
00:50:11.559 --> 00:50:14.559
have here. I mean, that's there's nothing really stopping any

979
00:50:14.639 --> 00:50:17.519
sovereign country from doing certainly two of those three things,

980
00:50:17.559 --> 00:50:18.239
if not all of them.

981
00:50:18.840 --> 00:50:20.559
Well, you see, this is the challenge that we have

982
00:50:20.760 --> 00:50:26.079
with today's American government is that, Yes, Donald Trump, you know,

983
00:50:26.320 --> 00:50:29.559
seems to be in most the most recent president to

984
00:50:29.719 --> 00:50:34.159
take this idea of our sovereignty and national security seriously,

985
00:50:34.519 --> 00:50:36.800
and he's doing something about it. But meanwhile, you've got

986
00:50:36.920 --> 00:50:42.079
opposing viewpoints that want to, you know, disband law in order.

987
00:50:42.199 --> 00:50:43.639
You've got to have law in order.

988
00:50:45.719 --> 00:50:48.280
Yeah, I think that's that's a shorter and punchier version

989
00:50:48.320 --> 00:50:49.920
of what I said. Yeah, I think that this is

990
00:50:50.000 --> 00:50:52.320
something that annoys me about the reaction to Trump, Like,

991
00:50:52.480 --> 00:50:55.159
there are things you can criticize about Trump, whether that's

992
00:50:55.239 --> 00:50:58.840
his Internet personality or him and Gavin Newsom or trading

993
00:50:59.000 --> 00:51:02.360
videos showing the other party is different. Animals like Obama

994
00:51:02.519 --> 00:51:04.480
is a monkey, but Newsome shoots back with Trump as

995
00:51:04.519 --> 00:51:08.760
a pig and like AOC's a jackass. Like guys, you know, okay,

996
00:51:08.800 --> 00:51:11.000
you can you can dislike that, you can, you can

997
00:51:11.039 --> 00:51:14.519
even dislike some of his policy moves, tariffs. But the

998
00:51:14.800 --> 00:51:19.000
frenzy about Trump very often is aimed at him doing

999
00:51:19.199 --> 00:51:26.280
just normal presidential things. So the border enforcement thing, almost

1000
00:51:26.400 --> 00:51:29.480
everything is presented in this context of he's Hitler, He's

1001
00:51:29.559 --> 00:51:32.800
Julius Caesar. Like I actually looked into this warrant controversy.

1002
00:51:32.800 --> 00:51:35.360
I trained as a lawyer before going forward to the PhD,

1003
00:51:36.079 --> 00:51:39.639
and like the there's this huge crist the huge critique

1004
00:51:39.679 --> 00:51:43.639
of Trump at Trump's Justice Department, President Trump's Justice Department

1005
00:51:44.360 --> 00:51:51.000
allowing administrative warrants instead of judicial warrants when it comes

1006
00:51:51.199 --> 00:51:55.960
to entering houses to get aliens. And my impression was

1007
00:51:55.960 --> 00:51:58.079
that this is some very technical legal issue and no

1008
00:51:58.159 --> 00:52:00.960
one has any idea what they're talking about. And that's

1009
00:52:01.519 --> 00:52:04.039
what turned out to be the case, Like, this is

1010
00:52:04.119 --> 00:52:06.519
something that applies to see if I can keep this

1011
00:52:06.639 --> 00:52:09.039
under twenty seconds. This is something that applies when there's

1012
00:52:09.079 --> 00:52:11.800
a final order of removal for an illegal alien. You

1013
00:52:11.920 --> 00:52:14.239
go to an immigration judge and you get a signed

1014
00:52:14.360 --> 00:52:17.440
admin warrant. This isn't a judicial warrant because that ij

1015
00:52:17.719 --> 00:52:20.039
is technically in the executive branch. But you go in

1016
00:52:20.119 --> 00:52:23.079
with a warrant and the order of removal. However, this

1017
00:52:23.239 --> 00:52:26.880
is not a full magistrate judges warrant. The question is

1018
00:52:26.920 --> 00:52:29.280
whether this is legal. Supreme Court's going to have to decide.

1019
00:52:29.719 --> 00:52:32.960
But the thing is that this makes the process ten

1020
00:52:33.000 --> 00:52:36.239
times as fast. All of these people are responding as

1021
00:52:36.360 --> 00:52:39.840
though Trump was sacrificing one kid for every house he rated,

1022
00:52:40.440 --> 00:52:44.760
And this is every single thing he does. The sinking

1023
00:52:44.880 --> 00:52:46.840
drug boats thing where everyone was on board with these

1024
00:52:46.920 --> 00:52:50.880
narco terrorists, like how can you blow up MS thirteen

1025
00:52:50.960 --> 00:52:53.760
on the open waters? You can approve or disapprove, but

1026
00:52:53.920 --> 00:52:55.760
the frenzy is bizarre.

1027
00:52:55.880 --> 00:52:57.760
Like what you're supposed to wait until they get into

1028
00:52:57.800 --> 00:53:00.480
your zip code and then blow them up and have

1029
00:53:00.679 --> 00:53:03.679
collateral damage. I mean, it's just absurd. But I guess

1030
00:53:03.719 --> 00:53:06.480
what MS thirteen and the cartels are getting the message.

1031
00:53:06.480 --> 00:53:07.920
I don't see a lot of boats on the water

1032
00:53:08.039 --> 00:53:09.199
these days caring drugs.

1033
00:53:09.239 --> 00:53:10.599
Do you no?

1034
00:53:10.840 --> 00:53:12.960
And it's the other thing is I'm not even sure

1035
00:53:13.000 --> 00:53:14.800
whether there is a decline in the rate of these

1036
00:53:14.840 --> 00:53:16.559
boats or whether we've stopped blowing them up. Now I

1037
00:53:16.599 --> 00:53:18.480
would agree with you. I'd say the cartels have probably

1038
00:53:18.599 --> 00:53:21.159
negotiated through back channels and they're sending the boats in

1039
00:53:21.199 --> 00:53:24.800
the other direction, or they're stopped. But a part of

1040
00:53:24.880 --> 00:53:28.480
this is that the press coverage is so dishonest across

1041
00:53:28.559 --> 00:53:32.599
presidential administrations that it's really hard to tell. There's that

1042
00:53:32.760 --> 00:53:35.400
famous study of coverage of the homeless where people thought

1043
00:53:35.440 --> 00:53:40.800
that the homeless population decreased during Democratic presidential administrations, and

1044
00:53:40.920 --> 00:53:43.599
it didn't. Actually it increased. It was just that the

1045
00:53:44.159 --> 00:53:46.719
major papers, the Times, in the Post didn't cover the

1046
00:53:46.840 --> 00:53:50.239
homeless because the association was of the homeless with like

1047
00:53:50.320 --> 00:53:54.360
the heartless Republicans like Nancy Reagan in her nice mink coat,

1048
00:53:54.440 --> 00:53:57.840
and there's a bum sitting on a grate. Unfortunately. I mean,

1049
00:53:58.199 --> 00:54:00.880
so that this sort of thing is still continuing. The

1050
00:54:01.840 --> 00:54:06.039
whole thing that made the drug boat attacks worth covering

1051
00:54:06.280 --> 00:54:10.239
for CNN was that Trump was pursuing a policy five

1052
00:54:10.320 --> 00:54:13.320
percent more aggressive than the previous policy. And if Trump

1053
00:54:13.360 --> 00:54:16.079
and HAGSA dialed back the policy by five percent, I

1054
00:54:16.239 --> 00:54:19.320
truly believe that would simply stop covering the attacks. So

1055
00:54:19.679 --> 00:54:21.119
I don't know I mean, we'd have to go into

1056
00:54:21.199 --> 00:54:25.639
some obscure stars and stripe sort of venue probably to

1057
00:54:25.719 --> 00:54:27.320
find out when the most recent one was.

1058
00:54:28.159 --> 00:54:31.039
Well to be continued, and we're grateful for doctor Wilfred

1059
00:54:31.119 --> 00:54:33.199
Riley coming on the show. He's the professor of political

1060
00:54:33.280 --> 00:54:36.719
science at Kentucky State University. Will Is always appreciate the time,

1061
00:54:36.800 --> 00:54:39.159
Take care be well as always.

1062
00:54:39.239 --> 00:54:40.559
Thank you, Bill loved coming on.

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Getting America back on track, Bill Martinez Live.

1084
00:55:51.719 --> 00:55:53.559
Well, good morning America. Good to have you with us.

1085
00:55:53.599 --> 00:55:55.599
It's just about six minutes after the top of the

1086
00:55:55.679 --> 00:55:59.920
hour on Bill Martinez. He is John O'Connor, Hey, John,

1087
00:56:00.159 --> 00:56:00.880
good to have you with us.

1088
00:56:00.920 --> 00:56:03.519
How are you big me with you? Bill Well?

1089
00:56:03.599 --> 00:56:06.360
John's the legal analyst, author of Postgate, how the Washington

1090
00:56:06.360 --> 00:56:09.880
Post betrayed deep throat, covered up Watergate, and began today

1091
00:56:09.920 --> 00:56:14.400
as partisan advocacy journalism that we continue to frustratingly have

1092
00:56:14.559 --> 00:56:17.599
to put up with as it continues because John, as

1093
00:56:17.599 --> 00:56:21.000
you and I have discussed repeatedly, it deviates us from

1094
00:56:21.039 --> 00:56:26.199
the truth and right now our government needs some serious

1095
00:56:26.320 --> 00:56:30.000
cleaning up, you know, from the bottom up, because it's

1096
00:56:31.079 --> 00:56:33.840
I don't know, how do you put it nicely, It's

1097
00:56:34.039 --> 00:56:37.880
it's just a cesspool of deception, that's right.

1098
00:56:38.039 --> 00:56:44.519
I mean, anytime you have this much money disintermediated for

1099
00:56:45.400 --> 00:56:50.320
using a big word there between a buyer and seller. Yeah,

1100
00:56:50.440 --> 00:56:53.360
and you know people are not investing their own money.

1101
00:56:53.400 --> 00:56:55.239
You have a bunch of bureau press have a lot

1102
00:56:55.280 --> 00:56:59.320
of money and no accountability. People trying to get that

1103
00:56:59.519 --> 00:57:03.519
money from them that have no nothing to sell other

1104
00:57:03.679 --> 00:57:08.320
than just applying for the money in some form or fashion.

1105
00:57:08.360 --> 00:57:12.800
And it just invites fraud, invites fraud, and invites people

1106
00:57:12.920 --> 00:57:15.559
who are just scamming the system.

1107
00:57:15.760 --> 00:57:19.280
So and it's so pervasive, John, I mean, when you

1108
00:57:19.440 --> 00:57:22.639
have an elected official who comes in in a matter

1109
00:57:22.679 --> 00:57:24.599
of a couple of years, I mean she comes in

1110
00:57:24.760 --> 00:57:27.559
with nothing. Now she's worth thirty million dollars. I mean,

1111
00:57:27.679 --> 00:57:28.760
should that be a problem.

1112
00:57:30.519 --> 00:57:33.159
Sure should be, and there's not much you can do

1113
00:57:33.199 --> 00:57:35.360
about it. But all this proves to me is how

1114
00:57:35.480 --> 00:57:40.960
easy it is in essence to compromise public officials. They're

1115
00:57:41.119 --> 00:57:43.800
just no. And it's because they're the ones who write

1116
00:57:43.800 --> 00:57:46.280
the rules. And so you're not going to write rules

1117
00:57:46.320 --> 00:57:51.840
to prevent you from gaining all kinds of property money, property,

1118
00:57:51.840 --> 00:57:56.159
and especially if your spouse is immune. So somebody can

1119
00:57:56.320 --> 00:58:01.519
give ilan Omar's spouse a ton of money or property

1120
00:58:01.760 --> 00:58:05.800
or what have you, and that's just fine, and that

1121
00:58:06.000 --> 00:58:11.440
might buy that person some votes or some money or

1122
00:58:11.480 --> 00:58:15.079
some appropriation. And think about the power these folks have.

1123
00:58:15.199 --> 00:58:18.039
That's why they're so vicious about winning elections because they

1124
00:58:18.079 --> 00:58:21.960
had so much money to give out. Well exactly, well,

1125
00:58:22.039 --> 00:58:24.519
Joe Biden as he was leaving, had all kinds of money,

1126
00:58:24.599 --> 00:58:27.199
hadn't given out yet, so he tries to get it

1127
00:58:27.280 --> 00:58:30.199
out the door. And I think Stacy Abrams had something

1128
00:58:30.280 --> 00:58:32.840
like twenty billion dollars or something that she could give out.

1129
00:58:33.920 --> 00:58:36.519
No, it was insane. I think was a two billion,

1130
00:58:36.599 --> 00:58:39.679
but two billion, twenty billion and what I mean different

1131
00:58:39.840 --> 00:58:44.519
two billions. It's just absurd. You know that this happens.

1132
00:58:44.599 --> 00:58:47.400
And here we are thirty nine trillion dollars in debt.

1133
00:58:47.840 --> 00:58:50.599
And as I've talked with several economists, I said, tell

1134
00:58:50.719 --> 00:58:53.679
me that that money, all that indebtedness, is not tied

1135
00:58:53.719 --> 00:58:57.719
to buying votes. And also the majority of it probably

1136
00:58:58.880 --> 00:59:02.480
comes from the Democratic you know, I hear all. They

1137
00:59:02.480 --> 00:59:04.480
always say, oh, it's both sides. I get that, but

1138
00:59:04.559 --> 00:59:06.400
I mean it might be one or two Republicans, but

1139
00:59:06.519 --> 00:59:11.280
it's it's predominantly one party that has has rigged the system.

1140
00:59:13.039 --> 00:59:17.000
That's right, And people forget that historically, ever since Martin

1141
00:59:17.119 --> 00:59:22.559
van Buren, this whole system, who really started the democratic system.

1142
00:59:23.400 --> 00:59:28.199
The system was based on number one, condoning racism and slavery.

1143
00:59:28.440 --> 00:59:31.880
And number two, the spoil system. Well, what we've got

1144
00:59:32.039 --> 00:59:36.280
here is the spoil system on steroids. But it's develops

1145
00:59:36.719 --> 00:59:40.639
over time. Originally it was just postmaster jobs and things

1146
00:59:40.800 --> 00:59:44.880
like that, or jobs on you know, for construction or something.

1147
00:59:45.440 --> 00:59:48.840
But then later on it just it just kept kept

1148
00:59:49.239 --> 00:59:50.880
accelerating and accelerating.

1149
00:59:51.639 --> 00:59:54.840
Yeah, I mean to the point that nobody has any shame, John,

1150
00:59:55.320 --> 00:59:57.000
I mean, how does you know you know, we talked

1151
00:59:57.039 --> 01:00:00.440
about elon Omar and and look at Nancy Pelos. I mean,

1152
01:00:00.800 --> 01:00:02.639
you know, you're from California. I was born and raised

1153
01:00:02.639 --> 01:00:06.039
in California. To see the kind of money that she's generated,

1154
01:00:06.159 --> 01:00:09.920
and clearly, I mean insider trading, nobody's picking any bones

1155
01:00:09.960 --> 01:00:12.320
about it. Every once in a while, the Ethics Committee

1156
01:00:12.360 --> 01:00:14.400
will say, ain't not supposed to be doing the insider trading.

1157
01:00:15.199 --> 01:00:17.360
You know, It's like, well, what does that mean, I'm

1158
01:00:17.360 --> 01:00:19.280
not supposed to be doing it? You know, I'm still

1159
01:00:19.360 --> 01:00:22.119
doing it because you know, I got this job in

1160
01:00:22.199 --> 01:00:26.039
Nancy Pelosi wants to convince us that, you know, these

1161
01:00:26.119 --> 01:00:29.159
people that are in Congress are so talented, John, that

1162
01:00:29.280 --> 01:00:31.719
they could be working a plethora of other jobs, but

1163
01:00:31.840 --> 01:00:35.679
they choose to suffer and sacrifice to do the people's bidding.

1164
01:00:35.920 --> 01:00:38.079
What a bunch of bull That's right.

1165
01:00:38.159 --> 01:00:41.199
And now I'll say this in defense and Nancy who Pelosi,

1166
01:00:41.239 --> 01:00:45.599
who lives near me, she at least made her money

1167
01:00:46.639 --> 01:00:51.199
by trading stocks. That to me is far more honorable

1168
01:00:51.679 --> 01:00:53.760
than the way some of these other folks are making that.

1169
01:00:53.840 --> 01:00:56.800
Let's put it that way. People I don't think, are

1170
01:00:57.800 --> 01:01:01.599
you know, are bribing Nancy Peloe? You don't need to

1171
01:01:01.639 --> 01:01:04.159
do it. But I'll tell you this, there are so

1172
01:01:04.280 --> 01:01:07.400
many of these congress people that are just up for sale.

1173
01:01:07.760 --> 01:01:10.480
Yeah, well they're grifters. And look what's happening. I mean,

1174
01:01:10.679 --> 01:01:14.159
you look at the model of what we're seeing in Minnesota,

1175
01:01:14.239 --> 01:01:18.400
for example, you got some eighty thousand Somalis that control

1176
01:01:18.519 --> 01:01:18.920
the state.

1177
01:01:19.079 --> 01:01:23.760
John That's all it takes because you're the swing vote.

1178
01:01:23.840 --> 01:01:26.320
You can elect or not elect anybody if you've got

1179
01:01:26.360 --> 01:01:29.079
eighty thousand votes. And by the way, I think that

1180
01:01:29.199 --> 01:01:33.360
eighty thousand votes may be multiplied a little bit by

1181
01:01:33.639 --> 01:01:36.639
sleight of hand on these ballots, but think about what

1182
01:01:36.800 --> 01:01:41.320
a determined group like that can do to affect an election.

1183
01:01:41.519 --> 01:01:44.079
Eighty thousand votes is a lot, and if it votes

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in the block watch out right.

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Well, and it's one thing, not only an election, but

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the impact that it has down line, because they come

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to Congress, they're controlling local municipalities. I mean, you've got

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situations now where you know and who have thought that

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we would have no go zones. I mean, this was

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all predicted that this would happen. You know, the Muslims

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01:02:06.719 --> 01:02:09.519
have come in. I mean you've got the call to

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01:02:09.639 --> 01:02:13.039
prayer at Times Square in New York, now, John.

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01:02:15.119 --> 01:02:20.000
And to me, that isn't as bad a deal. I mean,

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to me, you might have said, Okay, we have diversity

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of religion. The problem with to me is that you're

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going to have this influx of muslim some foreign countries

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do do not assimilate exactly. That's the key to American

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values and so and then once you say that sharia

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law is a good idea, now you know, Katie barred

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01:02:43.400 --> 01:02:45.360
the door. Now we don't have a republic.

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01:02:46.239 --> 01:02:49.400
Well, we've opened the door because we have allowed states

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01:02:49.480 --> 01:02:53.480
to become sanctuary cities, sanctuary states. I mean that that

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that is an anathema of the Constitution. I mean, you

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know you're a legal analyst. I mean, py up the

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sanctuary cities. In the constitution, where is it justified.

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Well, when it is, it goes right, you know, against

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the whole idea of enforcement of our laws, a common law.

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There was a crime that should be embedded, but it's

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usually not in most statutory sections here. It's called misprisoning.

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It's a funding word to pronounce prison. Misprisoning a felon

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01:03:28.679 --> 01:03:32.760
and a misprision of a felon is itself a felony.

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01:03:33.239 --> 01:03:36.320
And what it means is you know of a bank robber,

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you know the person that stole money from Bill Martiniz

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and you don't do anything about it, and you more

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or less, even if you're not exactly harboring Bill, you're

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01:03:46.800 --> 01:03:49.519
kind of doing what you can to keep him from

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01:03:49.599 --> 01:03:55.199
being caught. That is misprisoning some sort of action that

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keeps him from being caught or heightens the chances of

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01:04:00.119 --> 01:04:04.639
not being caught. That's precisely what these protesters are doing

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01:04:04.719 --> 01:04:07.400
during the ice rates and the sanctuary city is. Of course,

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01:04:07.920 --> 01:04:11.039
that's all they're doing. They're basically saying, look, we know

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01:04:11.159 --> 01:04:14.760
these people are felons, we know that the federal government

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wants them, and we're going to do what we can

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to make sure that the Feds don't get them, and

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that's all it is. That to me is and so

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01:04:25.159 --> 01:04:28.599
you can say it's really an absence of conduct. Therefore,

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01:04:28.719 --> 01:04:34.000
we're not tarboring the fuge too, which is a crime,

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clearly a crime under our law. Now they're not harboring

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fuge it is, but they're helping fugitives coming.

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Yes, terrible, you're parsing words in that situation. We've got

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Hey, we're back with you. John O'Connor, the legal analyst

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and author, continues with us, Johnny, you're saying, I mean yeah,

1318
01:09:29.760 --> 01:09:31.680
I mean to me, I look at it as as

1319
01:09:31.840 --> 01:09:36.000
you're harboring a criminal and and then you know, then

1320
01:09:36.039 --> 01:09:39.079
you're interfering with law and order. And now we're back

1321
01:09:39.159 --> 01:09:42.199
to and of course where it all began. You know,

1322
01:09:42.560 --> 01:09:46.840
the uh you know, defunding of police and uh you

1323
01:09:46.920 --> 01:09:50.720
know all the craziness four billion dollars plus of damage

1324
01:09:50.760 --> 01:09:54.680
to cities across uh Northern America. And you know, how

1325
01:09:54.720 --> 01:09:56.359
did that work for us? And I guess that wasn't

1326
01:09:56.399 --> 01:09:59.680
bad enough, so now we're going to do it again, right.

1327
01:09:59.680 --> 01:10:02.760
Well, sanctuary cities, there's a form of defunding the police,

1328
01:10:02.840 --> 01:10:05.479
really is what it is. And the whole idea that

1329
01:10:05.640 --> 01:10:08.399
things are going to be better if we don't enforce

1330
01:10:08.439 --> 01:10:12.680
our laws, it's just stupid. Yeah, And it's very, very

1331
01:10:12.760 --> 01:10:17.600
harmful to society. Really, it's a breakdown of society. Nothing

1332
01:10:18.560 --> 01:10:19.600
to be said more than that.

1333
01:10:20.359 --> 01:10:22.479
Well, and that's playing into the hands of the Marxists

1334
01:10:22.479 --> 01:10:24.479
who have come in. I mean, this is no longer

1335
01:10:24.520 --> 01:10:27.880
an existential threats on they're amongst us. I mean you

1336
01:10:27.960 --> 01:10:30.840
mentioned sharia law. I mean there are some cities where

1337
01:10:31.119 --> 01:10:36.079
Sharia law is the law of the city. And you've

1338
01:10:36.119 --> 01:10:38.560
got these enclaves that are coming in. And as you said,

1339
01:10:38.680 --> 01:10:43.359
key the key difference between today's immigrant outside of the

1340
01:10:43.399 --> 01:10:46.279
fact that they're illegal, but the key difference between today's

1341
01:10:46.439 --> 01:10:50.079
and decades ago in the turn of the century, the

1342
01:10:50.119 --> 01:10:55.159
immigrants came in to participate, to assimilate in this great

1343
01:10:55.159 --> 01:10:59.079
American idea. We've got immigrants who are coming in clearly

1344
01:10:59.479 --> 01:11:01.560
to destroy America and do as.

1345
01:11:01.479 --> 01:11:07.520
Harm absolutely absolutely, and that's where we're not America anymore. Really,

1346
01:11:07.560 --> 01:11:12.640
when this happens. Yeah, And you know, traditionally people would

1347
01:11:12.640 --> 01:11:14.760
come in even if if they had a foreign sounding name.

1348
01:11:14.840 --> 01:11:18.640
I mean, my wife's family, her mother's side came in

1349
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from Poland. Well they shortened their name a little bit

1350
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to make it a little more American, right, and they

1351
01:11:23.399 --> 01:11:25.920
really went out of their way to act American and

1352
01:11:26.039 --> 01:11:30.199
to speak English as well as they could. We don't

1353
01:11:30.239 --> 01:11:31.359
have that now, right.

1354
01:11:31.640 --> 01:11:34.560
And on top of that, we have these activist judges

1355
01:11:34.880 --> 01:11:37.960
that are all participating in this, and you're going, I mean,

1356
01:11:38.800 --> 01:11:41.600
have these activist judges that are they Marxist as well?

1357
01:11:41.680 --> 01:11:46.319
John, Well, here's where you get into the whole idea

1358
01:11:46.640 --> 01:11:55.159
that it's very much a good experience for an individual

1359
01:11:55.319 --> 01:11:58.520
judge or for an individual politician to say, oh, I'm

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01:11:58.600 --> 01:12:02.279
such a wonderful person going to be opened to all

1361
01:12:02.359 --> 01:12:04.439
these different people and I'm not going to do anything

1362
01:12:04.479 --> 01:12:07.279
about it. And it makes that individual person feel good

1363
01:12:08.760 --> 01:12:13.680
because he's dispensing large s like a king would. Right. However,

1364
01:12:14.720 --> 01:12:18.359
that doesn't work overall, because then what happens if there

1365
01:12:18.399 --> 01:12:22.159
are many people like that, and there are throughout our judiciary,

1366
01:12:22.279 --> 01:12:26.319
then we're not enforcing our laws. And that's the common

1367
01:12:26.399 --> 01:12:31.119
theme here. Bill we're not enforcing our laws and so

1368
01:12:31.359 --> 01:12:34.479
many and of course there's so many people we don't

1369
01:12:34.960 --> 01:12:38.960
we probably need more prisons, frankly, and you know, and

1370
01:12:39.119 --> 01:12:42.760
so the pressure is on judges not incarcerate people. So

1371
01:12:43.640 --> 01:12:45.079
it's a bad it's a bad deal.

1372
01:12:45.560 --> 01:12:48.520
Yeah. But when you get judges that are taking off

1373
01:12:48.560 --> 01:12:52.159
the blindfold and lady Justice has an eye open and

1374
01:12:52.319 --> 01:12:55.760
it becomes prejudicial, it's no longer justice.

1375
01:12:55.600 --> 01:12:55.760
Is it.

1376
01:12:57.359 --> 01:12:59.520
That's right. I mean, we have a system that's sort

1377
01:12:59.560 --> 01:13:05.079
of rigged now, and and it's it's unfortunate, very political.

1378
01:13:06.279 --> 01:13:09.920
Well, so so what's how do we solve this? John?

1379
01:13:09.960 --> 01:13:12.319
I mean, are we just having to you know, fight

1380
01:13:12.439 --> 01:13:16.479
this out until you know, everybody's punched out, or or

1381
01:13:16.560 --> 01:13:18.800
do we have to go so far as to you know,

1382
01:13:19.000 --> 01:13:21.199
lose this democratic republic altogether.

1383
01:13:22.640 --> 01:13:24.840
I think we're going in the right direction, Frankly.

1384
01:13:25.039 --> 01:13:25.640
I think.

1385
01:13:27.279 --> 01:13:29.560
I think if we start out by cleaning up the

1386
01:13:29.640 --> 01:13:33.239
welfare fraud as much as we can and then have

1387
01:13:33.439 --> 01:13:37.920
Congress actually do something about it and try to streamline

1388
01:13:38.000 --> 01:13:41.119
our welfare system. We have so many different agencies giving

1389
01:13:41.159 --> 01:13:45.479
out largeess it's it's highly inefficient. I mean, the overhead

1390
01:13:45.960 --> 01:13:49.199
that the taxpayer's bearer is staggering. Forget about the actual

1391
01:13:49.319 --> 01:13:53.279
payments out, think about the supporting the structure. So if

1392
01:13:53.319 --> 01:13:57.439
we can simplify that and cut out that fraud and

1393
01:13:58.159 --> 01:14:04.560
have assist to where at least the cities do not

1394
01:14:05.600 --> 01:14:10.520
no longer have this protection of immigrants and we honor detainers,

1395
01:14:11.680 --> 01:14:14.560
We're going to get somewhere. It's going to be a slow,

1396
01:14:14.880 --> 01:14:18.960
slow process, and I think we can. I'm hopeful about it.

1397
01:14:19.039 --> 01:14:21.640
And I'm hopeful, by the way about what happened in Minneapolis.

1398
01:14:21.960 --> 01:14:25.640
If they're really going to honor detainers and people realize

1399
01:14:25.680 --> 01:14:30.000
that g ICE and the I in S system is

1400
01:14:30.079 --> 01:14:32.560
really helping us because when we arrest a real bad

1401
01:14:32.840 --> 01:14:36.960
they're taking him out of our community. Right and now,

1402
01:14:37.680 --> 01:14:41.439
now that way you can protect the immigrant that is

1403
01:14:41.600 --> 01:14:44.359
tax paying and has been going to church for twenty years.

1404
01:14:44.920 --> 01:14:47.680
People don't want to see that person leave. But the

1405
01:14:47.720 --> 01:14:50.720
way to protect that person is by getting rid of

1406
01:14:50.760 --> 01:14:51.399
the bad guys.

1407
01:14:52.199 --> 01:14:55.439
And so yeah, yeah, And as you say, John, when

1408
01:14:55.479 --> 01:14:59.800
you look at other cities and municipalities that have cooperated

1409
01:14:59.840 --> 01:15:03.159
with ICE, a whole different story. I mean, you don't

1410
01:15:03.199 --> 01:15:06.239
have all this drama, you don't have a situation where

1411
01:15:06.680 --> 01:15:10.119
people are getting killed, and you get activists that are

1412
01:15:10.159 --> 01:15:13.279
trying to you know, jam a car into an ice agent.

1413
01:15:13.359 --> 01:15:15.479
What do they think was going to happen, you know,

1414
01:15:15.920 --> 01:15:20.720
or somebody coming to you know, to a protest with

1415
01:15:20.880 --> 01:15:26.239
a loaded weapon and be argumentative. I mean, it's like

1416
01:15:26.720 --> 01:15:29.840
this is all a bad recipe. And then of course

1417
01:15:29.880 --> 01:15:32.760
then you have local officials who know these people. When

1418
01:15:32.840 --> 01:15:35.359
the local officials are around, they can talk with the

1419
01:15:35.399 --> 01:15:38.039
local community in such a way to calm them down.

1420
01:15:38.479 --> 01:15:40.039
But you take them out of the way. Now you

1421
01:15:40.079 --> 01:15:42.920
have outsiders trying to do something that they're really not

1422
01:15:43.079 --> 01:15:45.079
trained to do, which is crowd control.

1423
01:15:45.239 --> 01:15:51.000
Right, And think about this, if you're an illegal immigrant again,

1424
01:15:51.079 --> 01:15:53.560
the tax paying person who's been going to church and

1425
01:15:53.680 --> 01:15:57.479
working for twenty years, you're much safer in a red

1426
01:15:57.600 --> 01:16:02.960
state that honors theiners and uses local police as backups.

1427
01:16:03.000 --> 01:16:06.199
You're much safer there than in one of these blue

1428
01:16:06.319 --> 01:16:10.319
cities that's so unruly that the federal has no choice

1429
01:16:10.359 --> 01:16:14.039
but to bring in these squads of people. Now you know,

1430
01:16:14.119 --> 01:16:17.520
you might get caught up, so you're really not These

1431
01:16:17.560 --> 01:16:21.039
sanctuary cities are not really protecting the people that they

1432
01:16:21.279 --> 01:16:24.039
want to protect and claim they're protecting they're not doing

1433
01:16:24.119 --> 01:16:27.239
that at all. They're encouraging the raids on home depot

1434
01:16:27.319 --> 01:16:31.239
and so forth, which I facially don't like. Many people

1435
01:16:31.279 --> 01:16:34.279
don't like it. But if there are bad guys that

1436
01:16:34.560 --> 01:16:36.560
they want to get at home depot, then they got

1437
01:16:36.640 --> 01:16:38.760
to go there as opposed to just waiting for the

1438
01:16:38.880 --> 01:16:42.920
local police to give them detainers, and that would work

1439
01:16:43.159 --> 01:16:47.359
much better. And I think I think people hopefully are

1440
01:16:47.439 --> 01:16:51.720
seeing the light, and I hope this Minneapolis solution, if

1441
01:16:51.800 --> 01:16:55.079
it's you know, actually carried out, can be applied to

1442
01:16:55.159 --> 01:16:57.720
other Blue states and maybe we can make some progress.

1443
01:16:58.199 --> 01:17:00.920
So it's very slow process and we'll see.

1444
01:17:01.520 --> 01:17:05.560
Well, and it's so political, John, as you know, because

1445
01:17:05.800 --> 01:17:10.159
you have Mayor Fry you know, home and we'll meet

1446
01:17:10.199 --> 01:17:14.199
with them, they'll talk with the president. There's one narrative

1447
01:17:14.239 --> 01:17:16.000
that comes out and then Mayor of Fry comes in

1448
01:17:16.159 --> 01:17:21.079
and holds a press conference and he's, you know, pounding

1449
01:17:21.119 --> 01:17:23.159
his chest and acting like he's all that in a

1450
01:17:23.199 --> 01:17:25.760
bag of chips. Walt's the same way. Ellis in the

1451
01:17:25.840 --> 01:17:28.399
same way. I mean, we've got to get on the

1452
01:17:28.479 --> 01:17:30.560
same page here and say what are we trying to

1453
01:17:30.600 --> 01:17:34.279
accomplish here? You know, we've got twenty million illegal immercants

1454
01:17:34.279 --> 01:17:36.960
who came into the country on top of another twenty

1455
01:17:37.039 --> 01:17:40.000
five we already had before. So you're looking, you know,

1456
01:17:40.239 --> 01:17:44.159
somewhere forty fifty million illegal immigrants in the country, and

1457
01:17:45.279 --> 01:17:48.399
we've got bad players in between, you know, that are killing, raping,

1458
01:17:48.880 --> 01:17:51.399
human trafficking, you know, go right on down the list

1459
01:17:51.479 --> 01:17:54.479
that have contributed to a murder of an American citizen

1460
01:17:54.640 --> 01:17:57.239
in every state of the Union. But you know, so, okay,

1461
01:17:57.479 --> 01:17:59.439
is that bad enough? Are we supposed to do something

1462
01:17:59.479 --> 01:18:02.079
about it? Are there supposed to be consequences? Are we

1463
01:18:02.239 --> 01:18:05.079
just supposed to shrug and just figure, oh, well, maybe

1464
01:18:05.359 --> 01:18:09.800
you know, it'll solve itself somehow, right, That's right.

1465
01:18:09.960 --> 01:18:13.640
So I think, like I said, I'm hopeful there's some

1466
01:18:13.840 --> 01:18:16.760
progress here. I think one of the things we have

1467
01:18:16.920 --> 01:18:20.319
to look at is and I hope this thing calms

1468
01:18:20.359 --> 01:18:23.000
down before Trump goes out of office, because this is

1469
01:18:23.079 --> 01:18:25.680
the chance to do something about it with the president

1470
01:18:25.760 --> 01:18:31.399
who's bounded determined to do that. I think parenthetically here, Bill,

1471
01:18:31.439 --> 01:18:33.479
and maybe I'm getting off subject, but I think that

1472
01:18:34.159 --> 01:18:36.159
the Republicans are going to get a shell acking in

1473
01:18:36.239 --> 01:18:40.680
the mid term unless something happens here and when that happens.

1474
01:18:42.239 --> 01:18:46.600
Congress will not help in any of this stuff. The

1475
01:18:47.079 --> 01:18:51.680
Trump will still control the levers of justice here and

1476
01:18:51.880 --> 01:18:57.600
so we can probably make some progress. So, but the

1477
01:18:57.920 --> 01:19:00.800
good thing is here. By the time trumpets out of office,

1478
01:19:01.479 --> 01:19:08.039
the wall will have been I hope, completed, and mechanisms

1479
01:19:08.119 --> 01:19:10.560
in place to control the border. And I think it's

1480
01:19:10.640 --> 01:19:14.479
going to be harder for whoever follows Trump to deviate

1481
01:19:14.600 --> 01:19:18.680
from that and reopen the borders. So keeping those borders

1482
01:19:18.800 --> 01:19:23.560
secure from now onward is very important. It's not a

1483
01:19:23.640 --> 01:19:26.880
foregone conclusion that the next president, if it's a Democrat,

1484
01:19:27.159 --> 01:19:32.039
is not going to reopen the border. But if we

1485
01:19:32.119 --> 01:19:37.439
can keep it the border secure and make some headway

1486
01:19:37.479 --> 01:19:42.119
and getting the very worst guys out of here, you know,

1487
01:19:42.520 --> 01:19:44.720
maybe we should take our half loaf and call it

1488
01:19:44.800 --> 01:19:47.640
a victory. But that's one thing we have to do now,

1489
01:19:48.520 --> 01:19:52.079
this whole idea of the welfare fraud. We have reached

1490
01:19:52.159 --> 01:19:57.319
the point just recently where our national debt is higher

1491
01:19:57.439 --> 01:20:00.640
than our GDP. That's kind of bad.

1492
01:20:01.000 --> 01:20:04.920
Yeah, yeah, without a doubt. Well, as we said earlier, John,

1493
01:20:05.880 --> 01:20:07.800
you know, if we're going to change our wicked ways,

1494
01:20:07.840 --> 01:20:11.479
there must be consequences without consequences it will continue, and

1495
01:20:11.560 --> 01:20:14.439
that's been the problem is that there's been no consequences.

1496
01:20:14.479 --> 01:20:16.720
They continue to get away with it, and we're thirty

1497
01:20:16.840 --> 01:20:22.199
nine trillion dollars in counting. John o'counter he is the

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01:20:22.319 --> 01:20:25.199
legal analyst and author of Postgate. John has always appreciate

1499
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the time.

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Thank you, take care, They'll take care.

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Bill Martinez here with Scott Powell from the Discovering Institute,

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author and speaker. Hey mister Scott, how you doing, buddy.

1566
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I'm well Bill, Well, we're on the other side of

1567
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the Super Bowl shenanigans. Just real quick, just as a

1568
01:24:19.079 --> 01:24:22.359
as a commentary, boy, I'll tell you the NFL is

1569
01:24:22.399 --> 01:24:24.920
trying to do everything they can to justify bad bunny,

1570
01:24:25.560 --> 01:24:28.199
and you know, trying to come up with some numbers

1571
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and work the numbers. You think it was, you know,

1572
01:24:30.800 --> 01:24:33.800
the people left over from the Obama years working the

1573
01:24:34.039 --> 01:24:36.680
stats here. But as I was saying to somebody else,

1574
01:24:36.720 --> 01:24:39.199
I think they're a little bit desperate because you know,

1575
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they were charging eight to ten million dollars for a

1576
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thirty second ad, So they've got some serious justification to

1577
01:24:44.800 --> 01:24:47.439
do for the advertisers, right, I would think.

1578
01:24:47.560 --> 01:24:50.800
So, you know, it's it's just a continuation of really

1579
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the trends that you know, the management of NFL has

1580
01:24:55.439 --> 01:24:59.079
had for years. Really it's well, you think you think

1581
01:24:59.119 --> 01:25:02.319
that would learn there's finally an alternative, you know, rav

1582
01:25:03.239 --> 01:25:08.640
right together with Charlie Kirk's organization, put together an alternative

1583
01:25:09.039 --> 01:25:11.880
halftime show that was really quite impressive.

1584
01:25:12.560 --> 01:25:17.039
Right well, they had fifty million in counting Scott. They're

1585
01:25:17.079 --> 01:25:20.239
still counting the numbers, but last I heard was fifty million,

1586
01:25:20.399 --> 01:25:24.479
and they still had more streaming channels to you know,

1587
01:25:24.560 --> 01:25:28.000
discern the numbers from them. So it's quite sizable and

1588
01:25:28.439 --> 01:25:31.000
should make a statement, hopefully a wake up call. But

1589
01:25:31.279 --> 01:25:33.359
we keep saying that for the NFL. But the NFL's

1590
01:25:33.399 --> 01:25:35.640
gone woke for a long time. At least they kind

1591
01:25:35.680 --> 01:25:38.279
of changed some of the stuff in the end zone,

1592
01:25:38.640 --> 01:25:42.039
although they still can't help themselves. In Goodell, I think

1593
01:25:42.239 --> 01:25:45.079
is just you know, full in himself and he's costing

1594
01:25:45.439 --> 01:25:47.800
the player's money after he costs him so much money

1595
01:25:47.840 --> 01:25:48.960
over the Kaepernick deal.

1596
01:25:48.920 --> 01:25:49.159
Right.

1597
01:25:50.760 --> 01:25:55.439
Absolutely. I mean it's it's it's kind of crazy that

1598
01:25:55.640 --> 01:25:59.079
there's no real correction. I don't know what it takes.

1599
01:26:00.119 --> 01:26:02.880
And maybe it's it's just people voting with their feet

1600
01:26:03.039 --> 01:26:06.760
that the numbers. Their numbers keep going down, uh, and

1601
01:26:07.680 --> 01:26:13.720
numbers on a more you know, true entertainment, American style

1602
01:26:14.399 --> 01:26:15.279
entertainment go up.

1603
01:26:16.079 --> 01:26:19.000
Well, I think the situation, the calculus is such, is

1604
01:26:19.079 --> 01:26:22.079
that the NFL is so big that it can afford

1605
01:26:22.159 --> 01:26:26.119
to lose some money, and so their margin of error

1606
01:26:26.359 --> 01:26:29.640
is a lot broader than most people. But hopefully, I

1607
01:26:29.680 --> 01:26:31.319
think for the sake of the players, because even the

1608
01:26:31.319 --> 01:26:33.760
players are plain planning, Scott, they don't They just want

1609
01:26:33.760 --> 01:26:34.880
to go out there and play ball.

1610
01:26:35.079 --> 01:26:35.239
You know.

1611
01:26:35.520 --> 01:26:38.920
And unlike even some of these Olympians that didn't learn

1612
01:26:39.079 --> 01:26:42.600
from uh, you know, the Australian tennis players, is that look,

1613
01:26:42.680 --> 01:26:44.600
we're not here about politics. You know, We're here to

1614
01:26:44.680 --> 01:26:48.039
play a game. But unfortunately, some of these people get

1615
01:26:48.119 --> 01:26:52.039
caught up in this, uh, in the political environment. And

1616
01:26:52.159 --> 01:26:55.560
I'm hopefully, you know, I'm hoping that America gets tired

1617
01:26:55.600 --> 01:26:58.000
of punching itself out and finally realizes, hey, look at

1618
01:26:58.000 --> 01:27:00.039
I just want to stick to my knitting, do what

1619
01:27:00.159 --> 01:27:03.479
I do best. I'll leave the politics up to the politicians,

1620
01:27:03.880 --> 01:27:09.640
because you know, it's just to me, politics is just

1621
01:27:09.680 --> 01:27:10.600
an ugly sports.

1622
01:27:10.680 --> 01:27:10.880
God.

1623
01:27:11.239 --> 01:27:12.840
And I think where we are right now, and I

1624
01:27:12.960 --> 01:27:15.159
was saying this to another guest here in the last

1625
01:27:15.199 --> 01:27:18.760
few days. Is that what we've come down to, and

1626
01:27:18.960 --> 01:27:22.399
your new article kind of leans to this. We're going

1627
01:27:22.479 --> 01:27:26.119
to transition to your latest column year and it has

1628
01:27:26.199 --> 01:27:29.079
to do with the fact that it's no longer about

1629
01:27:29.079 --> 01:27:34.079
Republicans and Democrats. It's really about America or anti America,

1630
01:27:35.359 --> 01:27:38.000
you know, and I mean think about it in those terms.

1631
01:27:38.039 --> 01:27:41.039
I mean we have what even at the Olympics, there's

1632
01:27:41.600 --> 01:27:45.119
a gal from a young gal from San Francisco, Chinese

1633
01:27:46.199 --> 01:27:49.560
and raised in America, but she's playing for the CCP.

1634
01:27:49.800 --> 01:27:52.800
She's playing for the communist Chinese and she's dissing America,

1635
01:27:53.439 --> 01:27:55.600
America who took care of her and allowed her to

1636
01:27:55.720 --> 01:27:57.680
enjoy the life to be able to compete in the Olympics,

1637
01:27:57.880 --> 01:28:00.560
which is now with the CCP. So I got a

1638
01:28:00.600 --> 01:28:03.239
problem with that, and most Americans are starting to do that.

1639
01:28:03.359 --> 01:28:07.439
And guess what, you know, this this young gal from

1640
01:28:07.640 --> 01:28:10.560
communists China is just one of more to come because

1641
01:28:10.560 --> 01:28:14.840
we have so many loyalists from the CCP living here

1642
01:28:14.960 --> 01:28:17.520
amongst us. So you know, we just may have to

1643
01:28:17.560 --> 01:28:18.119
get used to it.

1644
01:28:18.960 --> 01:28:24.279
It istant CCP strategy to infiltrate America, right This is

1645
01:28:24.520 --> 01:28:28.720
part of their long term strategy. And now you know,

1646
01:28:28.920 --> 01:28:31.560
now Americans ought to see it. I mean they're not

1647
01:28:31.680 --> 01:28:34.680
just they're infiltrating everywhere, and they come to work here,

1648
01:28:34.760 --> 01:28:38.439
they study here, They buy up farmland near military basis.

1649
01:28:38.479 --> 01:28:40.800
Why do you think they're doing that? They want to

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take down America right exactly.

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And they've bought up our politicians, you know, and I

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mean name them, you know't name them the bidens. I mean,

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just go right on down the list. Obama's you know,

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basketball players, Lebron. You know, they tried to buy up

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movie houses. They couldn't reverse what was going on with

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top Gun Maverick for example. You know, so God bless

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them for holding the ground. But you know, they they

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swing a big stick. And it's very tempting for these people.

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I say, these people, I guess any of us, given

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01:29:12.840 --> 01:29:16.039
that situation, could be tempted to abandon our values and

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side with the communist Chinese that are here, as you say,

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01:29:19.359 --> 01:29:22.520
quite clearly, for run reason. They're not here to be friends.

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They're here. They are our enemy. They want to be

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where America is, and they want to take us down.

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They want to destroy America from within. They don't want

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to engage us in a military conflict. They want to

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subvert us. This is this is classic communist strategy. Actually,

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01:29:43.760 --> 01:29:47.520
it's not complicated right in front of us, and we

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still are in denial about it. At least a lot

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of people are in denial.

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Well, and a lot of the young kids are playing

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into their hands. And it's going to be you know,

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hopefully they wake up before it's too late. You know,

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I say the kids, but really we have to blame

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01:30:00.640 --> 01:30:03.319
everybody else too. We have to blame the previous generations,

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whether it's parents, whether it's the educational system, whether it's

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the media. You know, we have to begin you know,

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we have begun to call it out, but we just

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we needed to call it out a lot sooner. And

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that's why, you know, like the Pennzol commercial, you can

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pay me now or pay me later, when you always

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pay later, it's much more complex and expensive, right right, absolutely,

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And that's that's where America is right now, ladies and gentlemen,

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and so look at this is a fight for our country.

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And as you're write about, Scott, the deep state is

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more insidious and more diabolical than people realize. We're not

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just talking about you know, some nice politician that has

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a differing political view than what we have. I mean,

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this is diabolical. It goes back to the heart of

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01:30:46.560 --> 01:30:50.000
what you just said about the CCP. There are anti

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typical forces that want the destruction of America full stop.

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Right absolutely. And it's not of course, it's not just

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in China. I mean, uh, you know, we we find that,

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you know, we have an alliance between the you know, uh,

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the Red Green Alliance, I mean, the the the Muslim

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01:31:13.000 --> 01:31:16.239
agenda is to take down America as well, and we

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01:31:16.399 --> 01:31:20.960
see the same strategy infiltrate us from within thee They

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01:31:21.000 --> 01:31:25.760
infiltrated Europe and you look at you know, I mean,

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countries in Europe have really lost. They may be totally

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lost barring a civil war.

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Uh that there's no.

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Corrective to what's happening in Great Britain and France. So

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you know, we got to learn from we we got

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01:31:41.800 --> 01:31:45.359
to learn from them that we need to say no, uh,

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you know too, you know, to Sharia law and to

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the you know, to the election of Muslims. I mean,

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you know, the type of Muslims that are running for

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for American office are hosts fold to the Constitution of

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the United States.

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Are you gonna tell me elon Omar give me a

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quote of anything that she said positive about America.

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I don't think there is one.

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I don't I'm not discerning one and the other thing.

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You know, I was talking with our good friend Bill

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Federer the other day. He was at a conference where

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they were laying out all these different insurgency insurgencies. I

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01:32:24.399 --> 01:32:27.279
guess you could say it how the Muslims are taking

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01:32:27.399 --> 01:32:30.840
over communities and how many mosques that are being built

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in local community. We're not talking one or two, We're

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talking tens and in some cases hundreds of mosque in

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01:32:37.600 --> 01:32:41.479
a small area to overtake what's going on in America.

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In fact, right now, according to these latest statistics, and

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this is according to the Copenhagen Protocols, the United States

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01:32:48.600 --> 01:32:51.000
stands at about two and a half million Muslims as

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01:32:51.079 --> 01:32:54.600
of twenty ten. Projected in four years from now that

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01:32:54.800 --> 01:32:57.039
number will have increased one hundred and forty percent to

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01:32:57.119 --> 01:32:59.279
six point two million. So what does that tell you?

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These are people, by and large, you know, and like

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you said, you know, they're electing officials. It took what

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eighty thousand people to control Minnesota right, right, right, and.

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01:33:10.479 --> 01:33:14.079
Then look at what has come out of the Somali

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01:33:14.199 --> 01:33:21.439
Muslim community right out, corruption, theft, wholesale theft. Tens of

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01:33:21.560 --> 01:33:25.600
billions of dollars have been stolen by these people.

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Right and the American people, you know, by and large,

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you know, we we have empathy, sympathy. We we want

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to be welcoming to our neighbors. But who welcomes a

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neighbor that comes in and steals your food and kills

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01:33:39.079 --> 01:33:44.079
your you know, kills your family members. Yes, so you

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know we.

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You know, really our faith, you know, Christianity is the

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main bulwark against all these things against you.

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But we can't but we can't allow somebody to use

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it against us. Scott and anyway, we got to go

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to quick break. We'll talk talk more about it on

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the other side. More from Scott Powell after this stay

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before the top of the arc of Scott Powell, the

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author and speaker. He is with a Discovery Institute as well. Scott,

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as you were saying just a moment ago, Yes, our

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faith drives us. But the deal is is that, see,

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we only know in part about our faith. I mean,

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if we're real students of our faith. You know, Jesus

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warned us, you know, to be as general as doves.

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But yet there's a time when you need to know

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when to be you know, like a lion, like a

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tire tiger.

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Right and we're in that time right now.

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It's a time where it requires discernment. We need to

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evaluate the threat levels that are coming in. I mean,

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we see, as you say, you know, you look around

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the world and what's going on. You know, Christianity number

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one persecuted religion on the planet right now. Well, do

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you think America is immune from that? No, it's not.

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And and the fact that you know, we're we are

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seeing all these seats being planted in America. Is a

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major should be a major concern, a real wake up call.

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So in Texas of all states, has sixty four mosques

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in their state, and they have a you know, they

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have one community where Sharia law is being is basically implemented.

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It's like a no go zone, you know. And that's

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what's happened in Europe all these Muslims. The Muslims don't

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integrate with with you know, we assimilate, you know, they

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don't assimilate, and so they have So this is not healthy,

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especially for America of all places. We are the country

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that was founded really as a melting pot as as

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a country where people from different nationalities could come to

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America and join together in this great thing called freedom.

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But freedom is based on principles. I mean, you have

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to have respect, you have to have tolerance.

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Well, they're based on godly principles, Okay, because see see

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the whole Muslim religion and all these other isms that

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are out there, they're anti God, Scott, that's the bottom line.

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Just like people are anti American. It's the same thing.

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It's it's black and white there's no gray area about it.

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And this is what we're seeing as the Muslims come in,

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as you say, they don't they're not interested in assimilating.

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They're interested in taking over land. That's what they want

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to do. They want to take over people and take

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over America and America because of our I mean, all

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these policies right now. I mean, these sanctuary cities are

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kind of like, you know, they're the enemy of my enemy,

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you know, so to speak. Because the sanctuary cities really

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01:41:06.439 --> 01:41:10.960
lend support to you know, to the Muslim growth and

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an invasion of America. Does it not?

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Oh? Absolutely? You know, I don't think when when the

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sanctuary cities were adopted back in the nineteen eighties, and

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this was a strategy that was implemented by the Marxist left,

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the radical Marxist left came up with this idea of

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creating sanctuary cities in America with a long term strategy

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of transforming the cities within America that's been that's a

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FATA company in most cities now exactly, the big cities

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are are are democrat they're blue. And we see that

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that influence, you know, is dominant. I mean, if you

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if you took the in many of these states, if

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you took out the big city of a blue state,

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it would be a red state, right, yeah.

1886
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But in regardless of that, I just think that even

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in these blue cities, the pain that these people are

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suffering and coming to the slow realization, you know, right

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now in Minneapolis, for example, in order to hide what's

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going on there, they've emotionalized everybody and they're all just

1891
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yelling and screaming and angry and hateful. But what they're

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doing in the process is they're ignoring the obvious problem,

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which is the policies that are you know, that are

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really instigating this type of behavior in response. But they

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don't see it that way. They think it's Donald Trump.

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Oh well, that's yeah, that's right. They'll shift the focus

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to Donald Trump.

1898
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It's not.

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It has nothing to do with Donald Trump, to be truthful.

1900
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I mean, Donald Trump has made some mistakes, but this

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01:42:56.359 --> 01:43:01.680
is not one of them. He's he's late in dealing

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01:43:01.760 --> 01:43:04.880
with this problem. Frankly, Well, and.

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01:43:04.920 --> 01:43:06.920
The thing is is that you know, what do you do?

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01:43:07.680 --> 01:43:09.479
You know, Scott? I mean, this has got to be

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something organically that occurs, kind of like what's happening in Iran.

1906
01:43:13.479 --> 01:43:15.760
The people have finally got fed up and they're just saying, hey,

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look it, I don't care. You know, it's like you

1908
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and I talked about last week. It's a Patrick Henry moment.

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You know, give me liberty or give me death. And

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in some of these blue states, they're going to come

1911
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down to that realization. Whether it's California, whether it's Illinois,

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whether you know, Minneapolis, just go right on down these

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01:43:33.079 --> 01:43:38.880
blue states because the matrix and the and the clear calculus,

1914
01:43:39.600 --> 01:43:43.520
the empirical evidence is so clear that the blue states

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01:43:43.560 --> 01:43:46.840
and their policies is destructive. I don't know of a

1916
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blue state and their policies. That's you know, it's thriving

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right now, do you.

1918
01:43:52.000 --> 01:43:52.600
No, I don't.

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I don't. And that's why I think. You know, if

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01:43:56.760 --> 01:44:02.600
we play our cards right, you know this is going

1921
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to come to You know, when you have failure and

1922
01:44:06.920 --> 01:44:09.840
you don't bail out failure, you get a correct you

1923
01:44:09.960 --> 01:44:13.880
get a corrective, right, And we're very slow to do this.

1924
01:44:14.119 --> 01:44:17.520
We keep bailing out failure in this country. We keep

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subsidizing our enemies.

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Really right, No, you're you're exactly right. And I think

1927
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Donald Trump more and more as you say is coming

1928
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to that, uh, that realization and finding out ways. I mean,

1929
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look at we're doing it around the world with tariffs, right. Uh, hey,

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you want to you want to behave and and uh

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01:44:35.279 --> 01:44:38.680
play nice in the neighborhood and be peaceful. Hey, look

1932
01:44:38.720 --> 01:44:40.039
at you've got America on your.

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Side and we'll help you.

1934
01:44:41.680 --> 01:44:44.079
And uh, you know this has been I think a

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positive outcome of what you know, tariffs have done. Argue

1936
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whatever you want to do. I mean, all these economists

1937
01:44:50.520 --> 01:44:52.600
that know so much, you know, said oh, this is

1938
01:44:52.680 --> 01:44:55.920
going to just skyrocket inflation and all that. I mean

1939
01:44:56.039 --> 01:45:01.920
wrong again, right, yeap. I mean at some point you

1940
01:45:02.000 --> 01:45:03.800
got to look at the at the batting average here.

1941
01:45:04.279 --> 01:45:07.199
I mean, Trump is hitting grand slams and they can't

1942
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even get a button single.

1943
01:45:10.079 --> 01:45:13.600
Right, That's true. But we've got to, you know, we

1944
01:45:13.840 --> 01:45:16.960
we we've got to We've got to really be very

1945
01:45:17.159 --> 01:45:22.840
mindful of the mid term. Uh, you know, twenty twenty

1946
01:45:22.880 --> 01:45:26.399
sixth election, which is only almost a little more than

1947
01:45:26.439 --> 01:45:27.319
six months away.

1948
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Right.

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01:45:29.079 --> 01:45:31.760
You know, I've made the case that it's important that

1950
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you know, we get election reform established. Donald Trump needs

1951
01:45:36.279 --> 01:45:39.159
to get behind the Save Act. We've got to get

1952
01:45:39.199 --> 01:45:44.399
that passed. Where's Donald Trump, you know, educ you know,

1953
01:45:44.600 --> 01:45:47.439
really making the case for it. I know he has

1954
01:45:47.560 --> 01:45:50.000
so much on his plate, but we've got to he's.

1955
01:45:49.880 --> 01:45:52.720
Got to be that's foundational. You're you're exactly right. It's

1956
01:45:52.800 --> 01:45:55.399
critical because the Democrats have gotten away. The reason that

1957
01:45:55.439 --> 01:45:59.359
they got so much representation, let's say, misrepresentation our government

1958
01:45:59.760 --> 01:46:03.239
is because they have been cheating their way into Congress

1959
01:46:03.359 --> 01:46:05.680
and to the Senate. If the truth be known, I mean,

1960
01:46:05.720 --> 01:46:08.560
that's clear, all right, And so the Save Act goes

1961
01:46:08.600 --> 01:46:11.000
a long way. And this is why Chuck Schumer and

1962
01:46:11.039 --> 01:46:12.880
the rest of them are claiming, oh, this is Jim

1963
01:46:13.000 --> 01:46:15.439
Crow two point zero and all this other junk when

1964
01:46:15.800 --> 01:46:19.000
eighty percent of the country says, hey, we want voter ID. Right,

1965
01:46:19.159 --> 01:46:22.000
I don't care black, white, pink, it doesn't matter what minority.

1966
01:46:22.279 --> 01:46:23.960
I mean. I think the numbers are in the high

1967
01:46:24.039 --> 01:46:25.359
eighties for Republicans.

1968
01:46:25.840 --> 01:46:31.039
Oh they're ninety. I think it's ninety percent, seventy one percent, Yeah.

1969
01:46:30.880 --> 01:46:34.399
It's seventy one percent for Democrats, which de souded about eighty.

1970
01:46:34.880 --> 01:46:43.960
That's overwhelming, right, Why I mean, these you know, Republicans

1971
01:46:44.079 --> 01:46:48.720
now are are sort of you know, not getting behind

1972
01:46:48.800 --> 01:46:52.680
the Save Act. You know, and I think some people feel, well,

1973
01:46:52.720 --> 01:46:55.279
we got to get you know, to get over the filibus,

1974
01:46:55.399 --> 01:46:57.960
or we have to have sixty votes. We won't get there. Well,

1975
01:46:58.840 --> 01:47:00.880
maybe it's time to obey and in the filipbuster.

1976
01:47:01.840 --> 01:47:05.199
You and me both hear you. I'm right, This filibuster

1977
01:47:05.399 --> 01:47:07.359
is not in the constitution right.

1978
01:47:07.479 --> 01:47:12.239
This is a protocol that has developed and it served

1979
01:47:12.279 --> 01:47:15.239
a purpose at a time. But the times now are different.

1980
01:47:15.760 --> 01:47:18.960
We are in emergency time. It is time that we

1981
01:47:19.159 --> 01:47:21.199
save America exactly.

1982
01:47:21.560 --> 01:47:24.439
Well, and what this all comes down to, Scott, and

1983
01:47:24.520 --> 01:47:27.000
what you wrote about is you got to have a backbone,

1984
01:47:27.399 --> 01:47:29.079
You got to have courage. You know people that have

1985
01:47:29.159 --> 01:47:31.159
sat back and said, hey, I don't want to talk

1986
01:47:31.199 --> 01:47:33.800
about politics. You know, people get upset. Well, we're not

1987
01:47:33.880 --> 01:47:36.359
talking politics here. That's why I said, this isn't about

1988
01:47:36.399 --> 01:47:40.039
Republicans or Democrats. This is just about saving America. Okay.

1989
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You either are for America wearing an Olympic jacket to

1990
01:47:45.800 --> 01:47:48.159
the cost of what eighteen hundred dollars that we pay,

1991
01:47:48.399 --> 01:47:51.399
you know, the taxpayer money paid for these people and

1992
01:47:51.560 --> 01:47:54.199
you love America, or look at don't put the jacket

1993
01:47:54.239 --> 01:47:58.680
on and don't represent us, because we want representation you know,

1994
01:47:58.800 --> 01:48:01.800
of four by the people that believe in America. We're

1995
01:48:01.840 --> 01:48:05.119
not claiming perfection here, nobody is saying that. But go

1996
01:48:05.239 --> 01:48:09.119
out there, represent your country proudly and stay away from

1997
01:48:09.159 --> 01:48:12.319
those things that you have no you have no control of.

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01:48:12.399 --> 01:48:15.640
All you're doing is you're like the person in the

1999
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in the movie Theater, you know, screaming fire.

2000
01:48:20.239 --> 01:48:24.520
Yes, yeah, it's it's a shame, you know, it's it's

2001
01:48:24.920 --> 01:48:27.079
you know. One of the one of the problems we

2002
01:48:27.239 --> 01:48:31.119
have as a country right now is that this inversion

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01:48:31.239 --> 01:48:35.119
matrix that I've written about is a it's a programming

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where people are getting programmed to think, to embrace irrational

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01:48:40.319 --> 01:48:44.039
ideas and and to adopt a kind of group think.

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Uh.

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And it it is totally contrary to the way we

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should live our lives. We have to live our lives,

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01:48:54.239 --> 01:48:58.720
you know, with critical thinking, with rational critical thinking, and

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01:48:58.880 --> 01:49:03.760
we have to adopt, you know, approaches that are you know,

2011
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that are balanced, that makes sense, and that deliver good results.

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And the thing is so crazy, Scott. Just to your point,

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in this inversion matrix, the people are choosing the minority

2014
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eighty twenty ninety ten issues.

2015
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What side are they on?

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They're on the ten and the twenty percent. You're going,

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how do you ignore eighty percent or ninety percent of

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01:49:24.640 --> 01:49:28.560
the proposition just for the sake of you know, your anger,

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01:49:28.720 --> 01:49:32.000
hatred of you know, some boogeyman, so to speak. Look

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01:49:32.000 --> 01:49:34.079
at we got we got to leave it there. Tell

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01:49:34.119 --> 01:49:35.880
everybody where they can read this, because this is a

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01:49:36.039 --> 01:49:36.920
this is a great read.

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01:49:38.239 --> 01:49:38.840
Well, it's it.

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01:49:38.960 --> 01:49:39.159
It was.

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01:49:39.279 --> 01:49:41.279
It's been published in a couple of places, the American

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01:49:41.359 --> 01:49:46.279
Thinker and town Hall, and it's called you know, uh,

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01:49:46.760 --> 01:49:50.840
defeating uh the Inversion Matrix.

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01:49:50.680 --> 01:49:52.399
And Deep States and Version Matrix.

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01:49:52.479 --> 01:49:55.079
Yes, yeah, the Deep States and Version Matrix. And it

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really explained, it really provides the answer to your question

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01:49:58.199 --> 01:50:00.399
that you just asked, Bill, because it is very hard

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01:50:00.479 --> 01:50:04.119
to understand this right, and it's all you know, the

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01:50:04.239 --> 01:50:07.600
roots of it all are spiritual and that's why, you know,

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01:50:07.720 --> 01:50:11.840
a spiritual revival in America would solve a lot of

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these problems.

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Yeah, I'm with you. He's the author and member of

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the Committee on this Present Danger China. A senior fellow

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at the Discovery Institute. Doctor Scott pell Hey, Scott, thank

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you so much for being well to take care.

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