Feb. 20, 2026
The Bill Martinez Show 02 20 26
The Bill Martinez Show 02 20 26
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Are you ready?
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Yeah, Okay, let's do an Ill Martinez Live, a program
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about current events, our culture, our values, our politics, and
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our future.
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And now Bill Martinez.
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Well, good morning America. Six minutes after the top of
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the r Right now, I'm Bill Martinez. See Steve Bonta
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from The New American. Hey, mister Steve, how are you?
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I'm just fine, Bill, are you hey?
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I'm doing terrific. Glad that we could connect and talk about,
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you know, if we can a little bit, because we're
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gonna talk about the Epstein files. But part of the
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consideration here is how did we get here? You know,
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it's like, you know, it's like America, our country has
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become the prima facia for when a people or a
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country abandoned truth. You know, here we find ourselves driven
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by chaos. If we've lost as if we've lost our
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you know, ever loving picking minds here. You know, we've
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talked of common sense, Steve, as if it still exists.
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Right Well, I mean I think you've hit the nail
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on the head, Bill, I mean, this is at root,
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this is we tend to look at Epstein and the
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people and his patrons as the other you know, those
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people aren't like us. But in reality, I mean, to
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a certain extent, this type of sordid spectacle is unfortunately
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a mirror on what we've become in terms of you know, Morald,
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I mean, moral decline is a real thing. It's difficult
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to quantify, it's difficult to graph. It's not the same
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as say, graphing an economic recession or something of that nature,
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but it is just as real. And certainly the verdict
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of history shows that, you know, when private virtue is diminished,
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public virtue is lost altogether. And this is what happened
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with Rome, for example, the canonical example, but there are
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plenty of others history, and we seem to be undergoing
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a similar process. Although there are also indicators that America
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is undergoing a bit of our maybe an awakening, I
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think that's a proper term. And perhaps things like this
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are causing the scales to fall off of people's eyes
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and realize, Wow, our condition has really become awful and
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we have to do something about it.
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Right, And uh, you know, maybe because as you say,
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because it's immeasurable, and it's it's just something out there
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in the ether, makes it very dangerous. Could you imagine
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any disease operating in our body. If we couldn't measure
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and we couldn't quite put our finger on it, what
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what it would do? You know to fatality rates?
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Yeah?
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Sure, I mean, I mean you know this, this is
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you know what Epstein perpetrated, was was akin to a disease.
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It's definitely definitely a canker of the of the rich
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and the elite. I mean, this is not something new.
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If if are you know your viewers have the stomach
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for it, I would recommend perusing Suetonius's The Lives of
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the Twelve Caesars, which describes similar levels of scandalous debauchery
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and perversion among the Roman you know, the Roman, the Caesars,
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starting I think Julius Caesar and going right on, you know,
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the first, the first twelve, and just amazing because you know,
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whereas the standard history books, the textbooks remember Tiberius, for example,
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as being a round the male emperor who did this
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in that, you know, institute this reform and that that
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that imperial consolidation. But he was also in private, at
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least according to Spetonius, h every bit the equal and
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probably worse than Epstein. And we'll just leave it there
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because you know, if if I were to tell you
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what's in Swetonius about Tiberius and some of these other characters,
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you probably wouldn't be able to broadcast it. It's so
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it's this isn't a new thing, right, you know that
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that that that elitness and wealth and power and connections
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and so forth, you know, generate this type of of
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of of of corruption. But I think it's a reminder.
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Yeah, but I think you know it we're all capable
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of that kind of behavior because you know, we say elitists.
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I mean, you know sometimes that's a figment of our
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own imagination. Certainly you have obvious affluence and things like
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that that would lead that way. But it's just that
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the spirit of fallen man as such is that we're
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all we're all tempted, and without restraint, we could find
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ourselves in regrettable situations to say, what was in me?
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What was I thinking to do that? But it all
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kind of creeps in, and this has been creeping in
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over the years, and you and I have been reporting
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on this, not claiming to be you know, some moral
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you know, police chief or anything like that. I mean,
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we just see the indications that's happening in our society,
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and I've been saying, look, we we've become consumers of this.
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I mean, we've got four hundred thousand kids right now,
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sex traffic lost in America, you know, because of open borders.
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We have no idea, but we kind of have an idea,
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and but we don't even really want to think about
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it because it's so it's so evil, and that here
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it is, it's in our midst.
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Yeah.
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I mean, you know, if if you look at a
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sampling of the people that were involved in the Epstein thing, I'm,
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by no means a great fan or booster of Bill Gates. However,
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four decades ago, five decades ago, Bill Gates was a
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nerd doing dirty stuff in a garage with some friends,
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you know, and he you know, he wasn't. I mean,
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people look at the all the photos of Bill Clinton
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and say, okay, yeah, well we expected that because anybody
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knows anything about Bill Clinton knows that his entire life
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has been subordinated to quest for power and libidinous gratification.
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I mean, we saw that as president, so that's started surprise.
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But Bill Gates, you know, where'd that company? I think
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there's a case to be made that somebody like that
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who is basically just you know, a real bright nerd,
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you know, but he too becomes corrupted in and and
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he's apparently was one of Epstein's top clients, you know,
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ditto for I mean, I don't know about Noam Chomsky
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as much, but I mean, as a trained linguist, I
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know something about the man, and you know, he's while
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I disagree with him profoundly on philosophical issues, I was
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quite surprised, you know, he too was apparently involved in
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some degree, although whether he was actually you know, taking
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bads with new bile twelve year olds, I don't know
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if that was the case, but you know, so it's
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it's just it's it's remarkable. There's a you know, a
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panoply of individuals involved, and apparently I mean, you know,
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I think every one of us maybe from time to
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time wish we were a little bit richer or had
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a little bit more money. And then this comes along
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as sorts of a salutary reminder of just what the
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level of temptation is if you if you break through
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and become you know, successful in that level. Very few
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people who who achieve, who achieve at that level seemed
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to be able to maintain, you know, some semblance of
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normal lives. And then and then if you confer on
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people like that, political power. Additional point, the corrupting influences
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is compounding.
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Yeah, or even corporate power. I mean, look what, Look
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what's happened in the music industry, right, I mean, well,
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you get music and also entertainment. I mean you can
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say movies as well. And it's it's quite interesting. I
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find that with all this stuff that's coming out, how
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Hollywood is just like keeping his head down.
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Well, you know, there's something to be said for rural
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agrarian virtues of the type espoused by you know, the
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likes of Thomas Jefferson among the founders. And you know,
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in contrast to Jefferson, Hamilton was a was a guy
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who who believed in wealth, who believed in cities and
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sophistication and all this. And look what happened to Hamilton.
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He was the caught in the very first sex scandal
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in the United States and ended up, you know, dying
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in a in a duel. So even even there, you know,
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look at a guy like that who clearly was you know,
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quite libit in this. I mean that that was well
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among the founding fathers. That was one of his his
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defining weakness, I guess, and it led to even back then,
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in those comparatively innocent times, it could lead, you know,
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people down down the primrose path. So how much more
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so today, as you say, with the power of modern
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wealth and technology to amplify personalities and to to deify people. Really, right,
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in some sense, it's in a natural state, right.
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And of course, you know, ambition, you'll do anything. You know,
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people will do anything for ambition, you know, to get
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on the big screen or to get the movie deal.
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I mean, you hear these stories time and time again,
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and people, you know, we've heard the saying, I mean
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you and I grew up with it, you know, selling
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your soul. And you know here it is a tale
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as old as time, as they would say.
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Right, oh, very much so. And as I said that,
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there's nothing really that unique about what Epstein was doing.
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If you look at I mentioned Rome, but you know
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in the Middle Ages, quite a number of the popes
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and so forth, and the cardinals were similarly that the
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power structure of the day were so corrupted, right, you know,
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the periodic scandals back then, and and this kind of thing,
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and all all the great empires have had this, you know,
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the Ottoman Empire. Uh, you know, pedophilia was was endemic
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and all this type of things. So you know it
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it's it's it's if it's it's true. As it says
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an Ecclesiastes that there's nothing gonna say. The only the
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the novelty here, of course, is the is a matter
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of degree. The degree to which these things can be
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you know, can be can be be influential, and the
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degree to which people can be made larger.
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Than life exactly.
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The the magnitude of the big lie has grown correspondingly
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with with I mean, technology is a great blessing. It's
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what allows it's a lot what allowing us to do
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this right now. And you know we're we're many hundreds
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this is this is a wonderful thing that we can do.
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But this same technology that we're using right now is
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also enabling other stuff.
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Without a doubt. We've got to go to quick break.
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