Jan. 14, 2026

The Bill Martinez Show 01 14 26

The Bill Martinez Show 01 14 26
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The Bill Martinez Show 01 14 26
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Are you ready, Yeah, Okay, let's do an Ill Martinez

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Live a program about current events, our culture, our values,

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our politics, and our future. And now Bill Martinez, Well,

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good morning America.

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Six minutes after the top of the hour, Bill Martinez here,

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and we're going to be talking about all this stuff

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that's happening in Iran. There's so much to pull things together,

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and we're fortunate to have doctor Ramesh Suparad with us.

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She is a leading Iranian American scholar, a published author,

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cybersecurity executive, and human rights advocate. Doctor Remesh, thank you

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for making some time and coming on to talk about

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what people are trying to understand about. You know, what's

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happening in Iran today. I think you know, in many ways,

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it's it's very exciting, but we're but also in the

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midst of that excitement, you know, we're praying because it

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looks like, as Donald Trump said that the ruling guard

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has maybe crossed the red line. Here.

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Yes, good morning, and thank you Bill for having me.

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Of course, yes, based on the latest report from inside

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Iran and what was published by Iran's main opposition, the

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National councilor Resistance of Iran, which is the main alternative

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to this regime. Regime already has killed more than three

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thousand people. So this regime has crossed the red line

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a long time ago, during the eighties when they massacred

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in the summer of nineteen eighty eight thirty thousand political

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prisoners that were affiliated with the mojahidinjal all the way

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to what we see today. So I think when it

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comes to the red line for the people of Iran,

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this regime has crossed more than four decades. When it

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comes to the international community, there are a little bit

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late to the game, but it's welcomed. It's extremely welcome

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to see various countries are speaking out against this regime.

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But there's more to be done. Absolutely, there's more to

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be done to support the people of Iran in their

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quest to change this regime.

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Well, you know, so much of what's happening in Iran

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just as familiar in a sense with American history, because

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the American revolutionaries got to that point. I mean, they

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tried to work with England, with the ruling government at

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the time, but the government became so oppressive that finally,

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you know, the revolutionary said, well, what have we got

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to lose? You know, I don't want to be enslaved.

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I want to have freedom, and I'm willing to sacrifice

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my life for myself and my progeny and the next

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generations forward for the sake of liberty. I'm willing to

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put it all on the line, and I have this

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sense the Iranian people are at that crossroads as well.

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Is that fair to say?

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That is absolutely fair to say. I cannot tell you

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Bill how many clips I've seen that has come from Insideuron.

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Of course, over the past three days there has been

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an internet shutdown, but prior to that, several clips of

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protesters recording their faces, recording their voices, saying that I'm

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going to be joining this protest and We've been waiting

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for this moment. This is the moment that is going

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to define the future of a free Iran. So it's

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absolutely at that moment. You know, what's really interesting about

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Iran is that there is an organized resistance movement on

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the ground that is essentially fighting this regime. Hannah's been

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fighting this regime for the past four decades. But the

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difference between this particular uprising compared to the previous uprising

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is that we now see the Bizaar as well as

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the university student, all sectors of society converging together, coming

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to the streets. The banners that we see in the streets,

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hanging off the center cities, despite the oppression, despite the

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attacks by the tuggish and terrorist revolutionary regards is it

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says we're here to fight, We're not going back home,

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We're here to fight. And the slogans, I think the

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slogans are probably the most descriptive of what's happening in

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terms of difference between this uprising with the previous one.

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Is not only down with the dictators, but down with

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homony supreme leader, and then down with the dictator, be

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it the Shaw or the Mola. Just like American revolution,

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Iranian people are rejecting the return to monarchy. Iranian people

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are rejecting theocracy. They want to move forward towards an

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American republic, exactly the way American Revolution happened, moving towards

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an American republic. And that's what the people of Iran

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are losing and risking their lives for doctor Ramesh.

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Are they encouraged, as I say, in other parts of

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the world, because of some of the indicators, positive indicators

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for freedom that are happening here in America. Are people

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around the world kind of getting the sense that the

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time is now and that this is what is promoting

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this Really it's an organic situation where you've got all

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these factors who have now unified under this banner for democracy, right.

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They're absolutely encouraged. I think the more we see international

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community speaking out to their defense, the more we see

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the denouncing of the Iranian regime and their killing machines,

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the more we see practical ways where the international community

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comes together to provide Iranian people the access to internet

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so that they can communicate internally within the country, And

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the more we see international community speaking out in supporting

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the Iranian people's right to self defense and self determination,

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all of those messages coming from the rest of the

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world will really go a long long way.

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You know.

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I constantly asked about you know, do you support military intervention?

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And my message is you can't have a military intervention

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with a clear political endgame, because such actions would only

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serve the regime and really allowing them to reframe these

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people led uprising as a foreign attack, and the gym

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uses this to escalate massacres, it uses this to justify

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mass repression and shut down of dissent and smear the

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protesters as foreign agents. So this scenario really plays in

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the hand of Tehran's regime. I think the danger is

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also compounded with the fact that there is a massive

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pr media echo chamber that is saying that the previous monarch,

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Vezzopahlavi is going to be the savior of Iran, and

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he's not an alternative to this regime. He's never been

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serious about the future of Iran. He lacks credibility, he

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has no legitimacy, and he has no democratic mandate. So

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the people around don't need another externally packaged figure to

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come and restore this dynasty that was once thrown out

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in the nineteen seventy nine revolution. The people of all

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want to move forward. They want to be public Iran,

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and that's what the bipartisan majority of US Congress is supporting.

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They're supporting the ten point plan by Marian Bradjavid that

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stands for a non nuclear, secular republic Iran stands with

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peaceful coexistence, free market economy, and to the executions and

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the death penalty in Iran modern judicial system very much

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kind of like a Jeffersonian and that's what we need.

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To blend our support for so I think if we

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are talking about any serious policy, whether it's from the

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United States or from the rest of the world, is

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that policy should really have a real endgame, and it

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should begin with, as I said, formalizing and formally recognizing

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Iranian people's right to self defense and determination. And I

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would say designate the terrorist Organization of IRGC in Europe.

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Let's see the United States lead that effort and shut

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down the Iranian embassies, shut down the Iranian lobbies that

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are advocating for the Iranian regime, and expose them. So

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in a nutshell, I would say pressure, isolation, accountability, and

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people's right to choose should be the pillar of a

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new policy on Iran, no matter where we're talking about

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US or elsewhere.

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Well, you talk about a future. You know Trump talks

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about the Golden age of America. This could be the

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golden age for Iran.

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Right, absolutely, absolutely, we're looking forward to that. The people

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of Iran deserve so much. The Iranian nation with its

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rich ethnic diversity from various nationalities, core Lore Baluchi's Farce,

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Arab Iranians everywhere that you look, this beautiful tapestry of

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Iranian nation deserves the best and they are working very

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very hard to get there.

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Well, we've got to go to quick break. We've got

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more from doctor Ramesh. Stay with us.

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she is she was born in Iran, and so she's

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been there, done at bought the T shirt, even got

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T shirts for everybody else, as you might say, and

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of course backing and supporting NCRII, which is the National

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Council of Resistance of Iran. Now you mentioned the ten

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point plan and it seems to me that this is

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the foundation. What NCRI has put out is the positive

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foundation for this Jeffersonian idea that Iran is on the

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cusp of embracing. And I mean, you've got people, you know,

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willing to put their lives on the line for this,

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which translates into freedom and this potential golden age for Iran.

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Right that's absolutely yet the freedom fighters inside Iran right now,

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the resistance units that are inspired by this doctrine that

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the discolding era of Iran, the vision that Mariam Rajavi

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has put forward is what really motivates the people of

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Iran to come to the streets and fight for what's

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inherently the rights the Iranian people have tremendous potential, tremendous history.

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You have to remember the struggle for freedom and democracy

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in Iran started back in a constitutional revolution in the

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early nineteen hundreds, and every single uprising and revolution that

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took place in Iran, the lessons learned of those uprisings

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and those revolutions is now really transpiring into really defining

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what the future of Iran would look like. And that

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is why the people of Iran, and it is multi generational.

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In the streets of Iran, we see the young people,

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we see the retired workers, we see the women, the teachers,

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union nurses, doctors, university students, the merchants, everyone coming together

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shouting one single message, which is we want to end

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this dictator should we want to end the harmony, and

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we want a free, secular republic Iran, and that is

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the future holds now. We in the West should do

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our part, We should do our best to really champion

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for them, to really clarify these various pr and lobbying,

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whether it's on the part of the chlo monarchists who

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want to restore the monarchy to Iran, or the part

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of the Islamic Republic. And to be honest, Bill, it's

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ironic to see how both of their messages coming up

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very similar and how they converge in their message. Within

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the Iranian aspora. People consider them as the two sides

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of the same coin. But we really need to echo

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the true voice of Iranian people. And I really appreciate

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you hosting programs like this because this message is what

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needs to be heard in America.

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The message has to otherwise we're going to get in

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a bucket of gum, you know, because we don't understand

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the culture. And as you just pointed out, I mean,

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you grew up there, you were born there. Uh, you know,

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I believe and everything I've been reading about the NCR,

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and of course I've been following as well, Uh, the

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Shaw's Sun and you know, some people getting behind him.

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But I think that's is more because of expediency without

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really understanding the heart and soul of what's happening on

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the streets of a run right now. And what you're

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bringing to Barrier is I think you're opening up some

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minds to people so that we can have a better understanding.

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And we're we're, you know, coming alongside you to support

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this vision for freedom and liberty and h and let

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the people. Let the people decide who should be their leader.

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Not some not America, not some you know, some lobbyists

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in DC, or anybody, some somebody from the international community.

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Right, the leadership emerges from inside Iran, the leadership bull

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will show itself. And you know, for.

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Those who say this movement is leaderless, for those who

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say this movement I can't really identify the leader, I

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would counter to say that this movement, it is leader

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full because when you look at the resistance units inside Iran,

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there are a network.

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Each of these network have a node. Each of these

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nodes have a leader. So what's more important is their capacity.

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What's more important is their action, how they're moving the

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needle in favor of the Iranian regime. If we sit

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here in the West and expect for it to be

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a leader with a megaphone out there saying I'm the

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leader of the Iranian movement right now, well guess what.

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The regime is going to target that leader immediately. And

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that's why we see as Marian radjab is out there,

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she's advocating constantly saying, our fight is to restore the

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power for the people of Iran. It is not to

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put someone in charge of the country, because the real

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legitimacy comes out of the ballot box for the Iranian people.

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The real legitimacy is for those who are fighting so

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that that free and fair election can take place in Iran.

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And in my opinion, it is the National councilor Resistance

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of Iround because they proved the legitimacy and the credibility

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over the past four decades, and that's why I believe

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they are the only alternative as a transitional government to

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change this regime and restore the power for the people

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of Iran.

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Well, when you do your elections, don't use any voting machines.

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That's my recommendation. We know they're compromised. I think, you know,

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a paper ballot one day, get everybody to vote voter id.

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I don't know what the position is in terms of

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voter idea, but they're probably you know, they're probably more

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practical in Iran than they are here in America. We're

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just so convol and uh, you know, mixed up because

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the tale is shaking the dog here. You know. What

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we say here in the in the political context is

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that politics should be downstream the people. And what's happened

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in America, it's got inverted. It's it's uh, politics is

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upstream the people. The people are downstream politics. This is

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why they're at odds with one another and they're so upset.

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So hopefully what we've learned here in America and what

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you're seeing from our example good and bad. And I

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would say right now the current condition of America as

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such that it makes uh, it makes politics, you know,

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very difficult and unsavory for the everyday American and that

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hopefully the Iranians as they go through this transition can

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see the things that America has done wrong. We're not perfect,

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you know. We we've done a lot of good things,

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but we're not perfect. And we've got a problem with

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our politics right now, and you know, and it's exciting

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to see. I got to tell you the spirit of

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what's happening in Iran because it's rebirthing an attitude I

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believe here in America to understand that, you know, freedom

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is worth dying.

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For exactly, and I think, you know, honestly, free nations

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learn from another, free nations lean on each other. We

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as human really human beings across various different societies have

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to remember we were born free and we should fight

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for the freedom. It is not handed to us. It

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has to be fought for. And Iranian nation is actually

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going through that process as we speak. And you know,

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when that day of election comes in Iran, obviously the

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international observers will be welcome with open hand because democracy

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will be a new journey and a new practice for

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the people of Iran. But I am confident. I am

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confident that we will get there because of the courage

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that we see in the streets by the Runian nation,

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no matter where they were born and which ethnic group

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they belong to.

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Yeah. Well, doctor Ramesh, I believe that our freedom comes

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from God. And this has been the battle, and this

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is it's really a battle against good and evil and

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a battle against God. Is that the forces, the prevailing

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humanoid forces of the world do not want, you know,

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a free people, and that is antithical to the vision

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that God has for each one of his creations.

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Absolutely. Absolutely.

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Yeah. So we've got about a minute left here and

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you and I are going to stay in touch. I

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want to continue because we have some other platforms in

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which this message needs to get out on and we'd

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have a little bit more time in which to you know,

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get into some of the detail because the people there

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right now, as you say, over three thousand bodies have

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been you know, have given up you know, I mean

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given up their lives, you know, for the sake of

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freedom and is Donald Trum said quite clearly this is

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crossing the red line. So what that will mean in

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terms of, you know, how the US would intervene, I

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pray that it would be with wisdom and in support

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of the people that are out there in the streets

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of Iran. Go ahead, I'll let you wrap it up.

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I agree, and I think the real battle is between

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the regime and the Iranian people. That's what we need

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to make sure it doesn't get muddied. Obviously, international support

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is most welcome. I think the US Congress has always

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been very very clear in terms of their support for

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the platform that was presented by the National Council of

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Resistance of Iran and the ten point planned by Marian Radjavi.

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But this is, you know, let's not get ourselves. We're

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dealing with a very very brutal regime. We're dealing with

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the regime that has really brought their killing machines to

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a science here, but that'd be also dealing with the

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very brave people of Iran who are very clear on

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what they want, which is a rejection of monarchy, rejection

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of theocracy, and a free, non nuclear, secular republic in Iran,

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which is quite frankly, a vision that really brings tremendous

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transformation to the entire Middle East and the world.

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Could you imagine unleashing the human potential and the resources

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that are there in Iran and what that could mean,

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you know, not only for the Iranian people, but like

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you say, for the entire Middle.

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East exactly exactly, Imagine no more proxy wars, Imagine no

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more nuclear threats. This is the vision that we're fighting for.

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This is the future that we have to strive for.

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Well, doctor Remash, thank you so much for coming on.

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She was born in Iran, a leading Iranian American scholar,

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published author, and a cybersecurity executive monkst and also a

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human rights advocate by the way, and so we look

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forward to continuing the conversation with doctor Remess. Sheperad Doctor Remsh,

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Hey, we're back with you, Bill Martinez here. Good to

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have you with us, sharing a part of your day.

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For more information on the show, you can check it

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out Bill Martinez Live dot com. Jim Robb is with us.

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He's the vice president for Alliances with Numbers USA. Hey Jim,

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Happy new year to you.

482
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Happy new year to you. Bill.

483
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Hey, I'm excited to talk about you know, what's what's

484
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been going on in terms I say excited because there's

485
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been such a narrative about you know, this ize shooting

486
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in Minneapolis and uh, you know, and everybody is just

487
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it's like brain matter is all over the place. But

488
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it's like wait a minute, just pause, hit hit the

489
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pause button here, and let's look about this logically. If

490
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you know Mayor Mayor Fry doesn't want ice in his

491
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uh in his city, and Governor Waltz doesn't want uh,

492
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you know, national guard in Minnesota, Well, it's simple just

493
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follow the law, you know, cooperate with law enforcement, and

494
00:29:34.440 --> 00:29:36.839
you don't need the national Guard.

495
00:29:36.720 --> 00:29:39.640
Right, correct. It's it's kind of crazy.

496
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Uh.

497
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The so you you've got some cities and states like

498
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Minnesota and especially Minneapolis, who say all illegal aliens are

499
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welcome here. This is a sanctuary state. Nothing will happen

500
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to you.

501
00:29:54.279 --> 00:29:56.640
Okay, but wait a minute, let me let me I'm

502
00:29:56.680 --> 00:30:00.519
glad you said that because I always ask at who's expense?

503
00:30:02.160 --> 00:30:05.599
Well, I don't think they've thought it through. So people

504
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who are on the open border side tend to be dreamers,

505
00:30:09.440 --> 00:30:12.400
right an idealists And I don't mean it as a

506
00:30:12.440 --> 00:30:16.079
compliment in this case. They're idealists and they think, oh,

507
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nobody's harder, harder working than these illegal immigrants, and we

508
00:30:21.200 --> 00:30:23.519
just want more of them and to show what big

509
00:30:23.559 --> 00:30:27.359
hearted people we are. But you know, wherein a lot

510
00:30:27.359 --> 00:30:32.279
of people are hardworking, others are criminals, especially in Minneapolis

511
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where we recent headlines have confirmed that they were just

512
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criminal aliens just all over the place.

513
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Right.

514
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So they get people, they get arrested because they're criminals,

515
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and they go into jail, and the law says that

516
00:30:48.880 --> 00:30:53.079
they need to let the government officials know ice that

517
00:30:53.119 --> 00:30:55.319
they're in jail and so they can come and pick

518
00:30:55.319 --> 00:31:01.200
them up as policy, and most juristics in America are

519
00:31:01.319 --> 00:31:04.680
glad to do that because who wants a criminal illegal

520
00:31:04.720 --> 00:31:09.640
alien in your town. Nobody who's thinking straight, because these

521
00:31:09.640 --> 00:31:13.680
are people who are like they're looters, or their rapists

522
00:31:14.000 --> 00:31:19.680
or their pickpockets, or they're fraudulent doing fraud. Okay, so,

523
00:31:20.039 --> 00:31:22.240
oh no, we're not going to do that because our

524
00:31:22.359 --> 00:31:25.519
city ordinance or our state law says we can't cooperate

525
00:31:25.559 --> 00:31:29.599
with ICE. So we're going to let these criminals, known

526
00:31:29.759 --> 00:31:33.079
convicted criminals out on the street. Well, what's the federal

527
00:31:33.119 --> 00:31:39.079
government supposed to do? The immigration is a federal responsibility,

528
00:31:38.279 --> 00:31:43.240
and so usually the state cooperates, the city cooperates, but

529
00:31:43.279 --> 00:31:45.559
when they don't, the Feds have to come in to

530
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arrest these people. That's the law. If you're here illegally,

531
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you're supposed to be arrested and deported. They're not picking

532
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them up to execute them. They're picking them up to

533
00:31:56.920 --> 00:31:59.039
get them out of the country. This is the law.

534
00:31:59.359 --> 00:32:03.680
So then okay, so it this is crazy enough, But

535
00:32:03.720 --> 00:32:08.640
then the real crazy thing is then these citizen activists

536
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I put this in quotes, Uh, they get this training

537
00:32:12.480 --> 00:32:15.759
in this particular radical group in Minneapolis. What they're gonna

538
00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:21.480
do is go and put themselves between these armed ICE

539
00:32:21.559 --> 00:32:24.319
agents and the people they're trying to arrest and get

540
00:32:24.319 --> 00:32:25.519
out of the country and.

541
00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:27.039
Some of that. And they're called and they're called Jim.

542
00:32:27.160 --> 00:32:31.440
That deal is again words matter. They're called legal observers.

543
00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:34.759
Legal observers is what they're titled. Are you kidding me?

544
00:32:35.119 --> 00:32:36.640
I mean, what does that? What does that say?

545
00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:40.079
Well, if they were legal, if they were legally observing,

546
00:32:40.160 --> 00:32:43.000
they would get out of the way. Anyone's you know,

547
00:32:43.039 --> 00:32:45.079
anyone can sit at the side of the road and

548
00:32:45.240 --> 00:32:49.000
take notes on a on a sketchpad, uh and or

549
00:32:49.200 --> 00:32:51.839
or photograph. That's not against the law. But when you

550
00:32:51.920 --> 00:32:55.359
put your car in front of an ICE agent and

551
00:32:55.440 --> 00:32:58.160
you start running over them or pushing them out.

552
00:32:58.000 --> 00:32:58.920
Of the way with your car.

553
00:32:59.480 --> 00:33:02.799
Uh and case the woman who was who was shot,

554
00:33:03.640 --> 00:33:07.880
she did hit the ICE agent and uh. You know,

555
00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:10.240
you've get some of the least balanced people in the

556
00:33:10.240 --> 00:33:12.680
community who want to gravitate to this sort of stuff,

557
00:33:12.720 --> 00:33:14.759
because really, isn't it. Don't you have to be a

558
00:33:14.799 --> 00:33:18.160
little crazy to try to to to push an ICE

559
00:33:18.200 --> 00:33:20.359
agent out of the way with your car. He's got

560
00:33:20.359 --> 00:33:21.519
a gun. You don't have a gun.

561
00:33:21.640 --> 00:33:22.079
What.

562
00:33:22.559 --> 00:33:26.920
Yeah, it's well, you're by you're obstructing justice and there's

563
00:33:26.960 --> 00:33:29.400
a law against you. Now you're breaking the law so

564
00:33:29.400 --> 00:33:31.839
so much for your legal observation.

565
00:33:32.359 --> 00:33:40.200
Uh, you know, position you grotesquely uh risky, you're taking

566
00:33:40.920 --> 00:33:43.839
you're taking chances with your lives and the ICE agent's lives.

567
00:33:44.240 --> 00:33:47.839
And who's going to win that battle. It's just it's crazy.

568
00:33:48.119 --> 00:33:51.200
And they're trying to do it to protect people who

569
00:33:51.200 --> 00:33:51.920
are criminals.

570
00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:56.240
Yes, yeah, exactly exactly. And and whether it's Governor Walsh

571
00:33:56.319 --> 00:34:00.480
or mayor Fry, they're putting their own people in danger

572
00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:03.440
because of the rhetoric the way they talk about ice.

573
00:34:04.759 --> 00:34:07.160
You know, so these people feel very justified. And then

574
00:34:07.160 --> 00:34:11.039
what's really dangerous is their school the schools are teaching

575
00:34:11.039 --> 00:34:14.559
this to the young kids. Jim, I mean what you're doing,

576
00:34:14.639 --> 00:34:19.079
what you're creating there in Minneapolis. Uh is a is

577
00:34:19.119 --> 00:34:21.400
a brown shirt university?

578
00:34:21.480 --> 00:34:26.599
Yeah, it's it's really really Uh it's it's it. I

579
00:34:26.760 --> 00:34:30.599
can't understand the logic which would countenance such behavior. And

580
00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:34.000
let's look at the even the bigger picture. When a

581
00:34:34.039 --> 00:34:38.119
certain state in our union one hundred and fifty years

582
00:34:38.119 --> 00:34:42.360
ago decided they were going to nullify federal law in

583
00:34:42.400 --> 00:34:44.880
that state with South Carolina, what did that lead to

584
00:34:45.239 --> 00:34:48.920
a Civil War? Exactly, hundreds of thousands of people in

585
00:34:48.960 --> 00:34:51.039
this country. Of course, there was a lot to it,

586
00:34:51.239 --> 00:34:53.719
but it started with someone who says, no, we're going

587
00:34:53.800 --> 00:34:56.239
to do it our way in something that was a

588
00:34:56.280 --> 00:34:59.679
federal matter. You just you can't do that, and it's

589
00:34:59.719 --> 00:35:02.559
food and it's wrong. Now, how could do this? How

590
00:35:02.599 --> 00:35:05.119
could we prevent this? What could Congress do about it?

591
00:35:05.239 --> 00:35:09.519
Besides other than sending in people or the federal government,

592
00:35:09.559 --> 00:35:13.239
besides sitting people, it could make everifying mandatory for every

593
00:35:13.320 --> 00:35:17.519
US employer. Well, the jobs would begin to dry up,

594
00:35:17.840 --> 00:35:19.920
and there would be less reason why people would want

595
00:35:19.960 --> 00:35:22.840
to come into the country illegally or stay once their

596
00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:26.679
visa was revoked or whatever their situation is because they

597
00:35:26.679 --> 00:35:31.400
can't get jobs. That wouldn't help with criminals exactly, but

598
00:35:31.440 --> 00:35:34.760
it would help with the great majority of illegal immigrants

599
00:35:34.840 --> 00:35:37.920
who are looking for work. So that would be smart.

600
00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:41.519
And how about an entry exit system that's fully up

601
00:35:41.559 --> 00:35:46.199
and operational. So it's been thirty years since Congress first

602
00:35:46.480 --> 00:35:50.519
told the administration that they want to register everybody coming

603
00:35:50.519 --> 00:35:53.599
into the country and everyone leaving, and thirty years and

604
00:35:53.679 --> 00:35:57.800
they they've given boat loads of money to administrations of

605
00:35:57.840 --> 00:36:02.199
both parties and sell their years later, no entry exit system.

606
00:36:02.440 --> 00:36:04.760
I mean, every other country in the world that's an

607
00:36:04.800 --> 00:36:08.440
advanced country has this. We don't have it because we

608
00:36:08.440 --> 00:36:11.599
we there's some people that still want illegal labor.

609
00:36:11.760 --> 00:36:13.599
Right, and you wonder what and you wonder why you're

610
00:36:13.639 --> 00:36:15.519
thirty eight trillion dollars in debt and you've got a

611
00:36:15.559 --> 00:36:19.800
dysfunctional government that's operating. You know, you mentioned what ignited

612
00:36:20.119 --> 00:36:22.480
the Civil War. We only have to go back sixty

613
00:36:22.480 --> 00:36:24.639
two years in Alabama, right.

614
00:36:24.960 --> 00:36:27.079
Right, Well, that's right. They just said nope, we're not

615
00:36:27.119 --> 00:36:30.000
going to do it. Supreme Court said integrate, but we're not.

616
00:36:30.199 --> 00:36:33.800
We're not going to integrate. And you know, how's that

617
00:36:33.840 --> 00:36:38.079
supposed to end when because this is this was a

618
00:36:38.119 --> 00:36:42.239
federal matter and the state was saying, we're so the

619
00:36:42.360 --> 00:36:46.400
US Constitution says the federal law is the supreme law

620
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of the land. So and then especially on a matter

621
00:36:50.599 --> 00:36:55.599
like immigration, which the Constitution says the Congress has sole

622
00:36:55.880 --> 00:36:59.440
power on and the power the president has is only

623
00:36:59.559 --> 00:37:03.320
delegated by Congress in this matter. I mean, other matters

624
00:37:03.320 --> 00:37:07.280
like military that shared power even you know a little

625
00:37:07.320 --> 00:37:11.400
bit more to the president. But on matters of immigration

626
00:37:11.519 --> 00:37:15.800
and naturalization that is Congress's turf and Congresses of course

627
00:37:16.039 --> 00:37:20.599
has failed abducting the issue, and and so they've not

628
00:37:20.760 --> 00:37:21.800
updated the laws.

629
00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:24.840
So the probabillion here it is. You know, we always

630
00:37:24.840 --> 00:37:26.760
hear about the power of the purse. Jim, what are

631
00:37:26.760 --> 00:37:29.599
they doing. They're not holding back money, They're just they

632
00:37:29.679 --> 00:37:32.480
keep on giving money to these people that are breaking

633
00:37:32.519 --> 00:37:34.719
the law. And it's it's not just That's why I said,

634
00:37:34.840 --> 00:37:38.119
who's paying for this? It's not that Governor Waltz is

635
00:37:38.320 --> 00:37:41.039
opening up his checkbook and writing a check for all

636
00:37:41.079 --> 00:37:45.599
this illegal immigration. He's yeah, they're leaning on the rest

637
00:37:45.639 --> 00:37:46.360
of us, right.

638
00:37:46.840 --> 00:37:50.480
Right, he we write the checks, he cashes the checks. Right,

639
00:37:50.679 --> 00:37:54.960
he does a political theater. And I can't imagine he

640
00:37:55.039 --> 00:37:58.239
must be hating life right now because he's getting caught

641
00:37:58.519 --> 00:38:01.480
between the forces of good government, which says, you've got

642
00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:06.360
all this crime by an immigrant community in Minneapolis, and

643
00:38:06.480 --> 00:38:11.559
you've let fraud get out of control, enormous fraud. And

644
00:38:11.639 --> 00:38:15.199
yet still in their jails, they're letting illegal immigrants go.

645
00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:20.039
Right when they're jailed, what you know, you get what

646
00:38:20.119 --> 00:38:21.679
you pay for ultimately, right.

647
00:38:21.840 --> 00:38:24.880
Yeah, without a doubt. Well, they're all complicit with this

648
00:38:25.039 --> 00:38:28.280
systemic program that we're having to deal with right now,

649
00:38:28.599 --> 00:38:32.639
and why you know, the madness continues. Jim Rob has

650
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been our guests from Numbers USA. Jim, as always, we

651
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appreciate it. You've got a lot of information at your website.

652
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Tell everybody where they can go to be informed.

653
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Right, Bill, Everyone should go to Numbers USA. That's Numbers

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like a number like, but it's spelled out Numbers USA,

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one word dot com, NumbersUSA dot com and everyone should

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click where to join or to be involved and sign

657
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up so that we'll send you our mails and you

658
00:38:58.519 --> 00:39:01.639
can send messages to Congress. You can call Congress. You'll

659
00:39:01.679 --> 00:39:05.159
know what's going on every week so you can respond.

660
00:39:05.320 --> 00:39:07.719
If we want to clean this situation up, we gotta

661
00:39:07.840 --> 00:39:09.920
make Congress perform right.

662
00:39:10.280 --> 00:39:12.360
Well, the powers in the hands of the people, our

663
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constitution says, so it's a government of four buy not

664
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we the government, We the people.

665
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It's us right, that's absolutely correct.

666
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Well. Jim Rob, the vice president of Alliances at Numbers USA.

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Thank you, Jim, take care, Happy New Year, my friend, you.

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Hey, good morning, we're back with you. Bill Martinez here

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with Jenny Beth Martin from the Tea Party Patriots Action. Hey,

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Jenny Beth, Happy new year to you.

751
00:43:39.239 --> 00:43:41.039
Happy new year, so good to be with you in

752
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twenty twenty six.

753
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Yeah, And as much as changed and as much as

754
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we have looked to look forward to, we got to

755
00:43:48.039 --> 00:43:51.000
get through some of this mess that continues to linger.

756
00:43:51.599 --> 00:43:56.280
And it's just outright lawlessness, Jenny Beth, particularly what's going

757
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on in Minnesota. This is like deja vous all over again,

758
00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:03.800
you know, rewind sixty two years and again Democrats and

759
00:44:04.280 --> 00:44:08.320
mayors resisting federal law like they did back then here

760
00:44:08.360 --> 00:44:12.559
they are again defying the president. Define Congress.

761
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Yeah, they're defying the president, defining Congress, defining the laws

762
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that are already on the books and have been on

763
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the books for years. And they are distracting, and they're

764
00:44:24.840 --> 00:44:30.639
using the chaos in the demonstrations, the protests, and the

765
00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:35.039
violence that has happened at the protests to distract from

766
00:44:35.599 --> 00:44:38.800
two very important things that they don't want the media

767
00:44:38.880 --> 00:44:42.840
talking about. One is that the Trump administration is deporting

768
00:44:43.000 --> 00:44:47.159
people who are here who have committed heinous, violent crimes,

769
00:44:47.599 --> 00:44:50.039
and they are working to clean up our streets and

770
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to make sure America is safe. They don't want they

771
00:44:52.760 --> 00:44:55.159
don't want that to happen. They don't want any deportations

772
00:44:55.199 --> 00:44:59.800
to happen, and they don't want to highlight the crimes

773
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that people have committed that have led to the deportations.

774
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And two, they really don't want anyone talking to or

775
00:45:07.199 --> 00:45:11.239
paying attention to the fraud that has happened in Minnesota.

776
00:45:11.320 --> 00:45:13.440
We were talking about that a week ago, and now

777
00:45:13.480 --> 00:45:18.199
we no longer are, and it is rampant the governor.

778
00:45:18.719 --> 00:45:21.519
The governor knew about it, covered it up, did nothing

779
00:45:21.760 --> 00:45:25.440
to stop it, and or at least allegedly knew about

780
00:45:25.480 --> 00:45:29.079
it and did nothing to stop it, and they don't

781
00:45:29.119 --> 00:45:33.119
want the media talking about this. So the chaos, the protests,

782
00:45:33.119 --> 00:45:36.840
the demonstrations, and the demonstrations that are turning into violence

783
00:45:36.880 --> 00:45:41.679
and civil disobedience are means to ignore and cover up

784
00:45:42.000 --> 00:45:45.960
these two very important facts that are happening in Minnesota.

785
00:45:46.440 --> 00:45:52.400
Well, the governor and the politicos associated with Little Somalia there,

786
00:45:53.440 --> 00:45:56.079
they want to cover this up because they're all complicit.

787
00:45:56.320 --> 00:45:59.039
Jenny Beth, I mean, and we can say allegedly this

788
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is a systemic iss you. I mean, how do you

789
00:46:01.599 --> 00:46:04.480
get people from a third world some say fourth world

790
00:46:04.480 --> 00:46:08.360
even country background come into the United States and set

791
00:46:08.400 --> 00:46:12.199
up an operation like this sending billions back to Somalia.

792
00:46:12.239 --> 00:46:15.920
I mean, we've had reports where investigative reports were at

793
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the airports routinely, you know, because these carriers who are

794
00:46:21.119 --> 00:46:25.360
transporting money cash through airlines have to declare right, They're

795
00:46:25.400 --> 00:46:29.599
talking millions of dollars going through the airports, and it's

796
00:46:29.679 --> 00:46:32.360
just like no, big whoop? Are you kidding me?

797
00:46:33.119 --> 00:46:33.360
Yeah?

798
00:46:33.440 --> 00:46:35.760
What is the point of reporting and declaring all that

799
00:46:35.800 --> 00:46:38.559
cash if the government isn't going to do anything to investigate?

800
00:46:38.599 --> 00:46:42.679
When when red flags start arising from it. Why do

801
00:46:42.800 --> 00:46:44.679
we have to go through and declare it if they're

802
00:46:44.719 --> 00:46:48.719
going to do nothing with it. The TSE agent saw

803
00:46:48.760 --> 00:46:51.440
it and were alarmed by it, mentioned it, try to

804
00:46:51.440 --> 00:46:55.559
get investigations into it. Those were ignored. People within the

805
00:46:55.679 --> 00:47:01.840
government in Minnesota who were dealing with the grants that

806
00:47:01.880 --> 00:47:07.159
were going out, they were alarmed. They blew the whistle.

807
00:47:07.199 --> 00:47:09.760
They said things were happening that should not have been happening.

808
00:47:09.800 --> 00:47:13.400
They did not think legal activity was happening. They thought

809
00:47:13.480 --> 00:47:17.199
illegal activity was happening. Again, all of that was ignored.

810
00:47:17.440 --> 00:47:22.719
Nothing was investigated seriously. And we have had some investigations

811
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into it, but not nearly enough. And when you have

812
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a young investigative journalist who can go in in a

813
00:47:29.199 --> 00:47:33.599
single day and show hundreds of thousands, millions of dollars

814
00:47:33.639 --> 00:47:38.039
in fraud happening in a single day, imagine how much

815
00:47:38.119 --> 00:47:42.480
more widespread this is throughout the state of Minnesota. And honestly,

816
00:47:42.519 --> 00:47:45.000
built we've seen enough knowing that a little bit is

817
00:47:45.039 --> 00:47:48.639
happening in Ohio and in Oregon and in California, I

818
00:47:48.719 --> 00:47:52.199
think it's going on in I think it's going on

819
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in every state in the country. I think that all

820
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of these programs that are receiving money from the federal

821
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government need a real audit. Money needs to stop flowing

822
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until we guarantee and are assured that the people who

823
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are receiving the money actually are eligible according to the law,

824
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to receive that money.

825
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See Elon muskot All but tard and feathered for beginning

826
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to point this out. He had, you know, the weight

827
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and credibility of his business experience to say that, you know,

828
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there was at least a trillion. He estimated that it

829
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could probably even get up to two trillion dollars in

830
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fraud and corruption. But you know, we just could never

831
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get down to it. But it's been to me from

832
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my perspective, and what my experience in business has demonstrated

833
00:48:35.719 --> 00:48:39.559
time and again is that this is this is organized crime.

834
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You know, this is this is systemic. As I said earlier,

835
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and as you suggested, it's beyond Minneapolis. I mean, because

836
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if it's happening there, and the thing is that seems

837
00:48:50.719 --> 00:48:54.400
to be consistent is Democrats are involved with this ruse.

838
00:48:54.480 --> 00:48:58.400
Because as we've been saying for years, Jenny Beth, follow

839
00:48:58.480 --> 00:49:00.920
the money and you see what happen happens. This money

840
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just isn't going to Somalia. It's coming back. And part

841
00:49:03.840 --> 00:49:06.079
of that is in the form of you know, I

842
00:49:06.119 --> 00:49:08.679
call it a vig Part of the big goes to

843
00:49:08.719 --> 00:49:12.639
these politicians to keep them going along, to get along,

844
00:49:13.199 --> 00:49:16.360
because that's reelection money, and that's coffers, and that's how

845
00:49:16.599 --> 00:49:19.559
some of these politicians. Again, I know this. Some people

846
00:49:19.559 --> 00:49:21.679
are saying, well, Bill, you don't know that's exactly true,

847
00:49:21.840 --> 00:49:25.000
but it smells to high heaven when somebody makes, say

848
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one hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year, and somehow

849
00:49:27.199 --> 00:49:29.920
in a couple of years they've got over twenty million

850
00:49:29.960 --> 00:49:33.039
dollars in their bank account. Where did that come from?

851
00:49:33.800 --> 00:49:37.119
Yeah, you were right about that, And we don't know

852
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that it's true. But one thing that we can do

853
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that could happen what I'm saying right now is so

854
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we'ld be seen as so radical and so out there

855
00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:46.880
that no one in Congress would actually do it. But

856
00:49:47.280 --> 00:49:49.440
if they froze the money and then they just went

857
00:49:49.480 --> 00:49:51.440
in and made sure that the people who are receiving

858
00:49:51.440 --> 00:49:54.800
the money actually are eligible for receiving it according to

859
00:49:54.880 --> 00:49:57.519
the law and the rules and the regulations for those

860
00:49:57.599 --> 00:50:02.239
particular programs, and made sure that it truly is that

861
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the money is being distributed according to how the law

862
00:50:05.840 --> 00:50:08.760
intended for it to be distributed, and it's being used

863
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the way the law intended it to be used.

864
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We would be.

865
00:50:11.880 --> 00:50:14.280
Able to clean up a lot of this fraud very

866
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very very quickly. But Congress doesn't have the fortitude to

867
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do this. And in fact, you know you are just

868
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mentioning Bill, You're just mentioning Elon Musk. Elon Musk is

869
00:50:23.760 --> 00:50:27.599
not afraid of commas and zeros. And this seems like

870
00:50:27.679 --> 00:50:29.719
such a simple thing to say, but it's it is

871
00:50:29.920 --> 00:50:33.760
important to understand. You get people in Congress who've never

872
00:50:33.800 --> 00:50:36.199
run a business, who've never had to make payroll on

873
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their own, they've never had to face the consequences that

874
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come with running a business and the risk that it

875
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takes and the courage it takes to keep a business going.

876
00:50:46.000 --> 00:50:49.599
And they see the numbers, and they see a dollar

877
00:50:49.639 --> 00:50:52.519
sign and numbers and a comma and zero and common

878
00:50:52.639 --> 00:50:55.400
zeros and common zeros, and they get paralyzed and they're

879
00:50:55.440 --> 00:50:57.719
afraid of that. The number is so big they don't

880
00:50:57.800 --> 00:51:00.199
know how to deal with it. They can't even do

881
00:51:00.360 --> 00:51:03.760
basic math anymore. Elon Musk is not afraid of that,

882
00:51:04.320 --> 00:51:09.079
and he understood something wasn't adding up. He knows enough

883
00:51:09.159 --> 00:51:13.239
about money, and certainly way more than most people do

884
00:51:13.360 --> 00:51:16.639
about how to do math, that he knew this money

885
00:51:16.679 --> 00:51:19.599
going out it doesn't make sense and it doesn't add up,

886
00:51:19.880 --> 00:51:22.199
and he was hard and feathered. But I think that

887
00:51:22.320 --> 00:51:26.519
this situation in Minnesota shows he shouldn't have been hard

888
00:51:26.559 --> 00:51:27.039
and feathered.

889
00:51:27.079 --> 00:51:27.760
He was right.

890
00:51:28.159 --> 00:51:30.480
I think there's a trillion dollars in there that could

891
00:51:30.519 --> 00:51:35.039
be cut, just like Elawan Musk has said. And we're

892
00:51:35.079 --> 00:51:37.960
not going to know for sure that that's happening until

893
00:51:38.000 --> 00:51:42.199
Congress gets serious about doing the oversight and stopping the flow,

894
00:51:42.320 --> 00:51:44.679
until they know the money is being spent properly.

895
00:51:44.880 --> 00:51:47.639
Well, Jenny Beth, you have to also consider seventy seven

896
00:51:47.719 --> 00:51:51.840
million people voted for Trump to clean this mess up. Okay,

897
00:51:52.119 --> 00:51:55.800
Now keep in mind in Minneapolis, I mean in Minneapolis,

898
00:51:56.920 --> 00:52:01.360
over eighty percent of the people voted for Kamalains. What

899
00:52:01.400 --> 00:52:04.079
does that tell you, I mean in terms of the

900
00:52:04.119 --> 00:52:06.480
resistance and that sort of thing. So this kind of

901
00:52:06.519 --> 00:52:10.960
behavior that we're seeing is acceptable in Minneapolis. I mean,

902
00:52:10.960 --> 00:52:13.400
that's why they're so shocked. That's why they're causing problems,

903
00:52:13.639 --> 00:52:15.679
whether it has to do with law enforcement and with

904
00:52:15.800 --> 00:52:18.119
ice and the stuff that's going on there. I mean,

905
00:52:18.320 --> 00:52:20.519
they are out of control. These people do not care

906
00:52:20.519 --> 00:52:23.360
about the constitution or democracy, but they tell you it

907
00:52:23.400 --> 00:52:25.079
all comes down and you and I've been talking about

908
00:52:25.079 --> 00:52:29.480
this from day one. We the people, the people are

909
00:52:29.519 --> 00:52:32.079
in charge. This is a government of four by we

910
00:52:32.199 --> 00:52:35.119
the people, and we the people need to get in

911
00:52:35.159 --> 00:52:38.199
the in action. They need to get activated and start

912
00:52:38.320 --> 00:52:41.480
yelling and screaming and maybe follow the lead of what

913
00:52:41.519 --> 00:52:44.639
the people are doing in Iran right now right maybe.

914
00:52:44.440 --> 00:52:52.440
Yes, And in in Iran, those people are exhibiting the

915
00:52:52.639 --> 00:52:57.559
kind of courage, my goodness, are facing death by going

916
00:52:57.599 --> 00:53:00.039
out and speaking up and saying they just want to

917
00:53:00.079 --> 00:53:03.199
be free. And the people in Minnesota think that's what

918
00:53:03.199 --> 00:53:07.599
they're doing, they're not. They're breaking the law, they're disrupting

919
00:53:08.119 --> 00:53:14.000
legitimate police operations. What is happening in Iran is so

920
00:53:14.199 --> 00:53:16.920
massive and so important, and yet in our country, because

921
00:53:16.920 --> 00:53:20.039
of what's happening in Minnesota, we haven't even paid enough

922
00:53:20.039 --> 00:53:24.519
attention to what's happening in Iran. And my prayers are

923
00:53:24.559 --> 00:53:26.599
with the people of Iran who have the courage to

924
00:53:26.639 --> 00:53:28.679
stand up and they are trying to say no more

925
00:53:28.719 --> 00:53:32.480
to the tyrannical regime that has been controlling their lives

926
00:53:32.880 --> 00:53:36.480
for nearly fifty years. And I pray that they are successful.

927
00:53:36.719 --> 00:53:39.760
And I pray that our president has a courage, in

928
00:53:39.800 --> 00:53:43.119
the fortitude and the decisiveness to do what it takes

929
00:53:43.480 --> 00:53:47.000
to help those people in Iran. And I think he does,

930
00:53:47.079 --> 00:53:50.639
but I still pray that he continues to have those qualities.

931
00:53:50.920 --> 00:53:54.760
Exactly. It's foundational to a democracy, and they know that,

932
00:53:55.119 --> 00:53:57.320
and we are seeing it. And some of us get

933
00:53:57.320 --> 00:53:59.639
it and we see that, but there's others that don't.

934
00:53:59.679 --> 00:54:02.360
Jenny Beth, as you said, their worldview has become so

935
00:54:02.480 --> 00:54:06.599
compromised that the people in Minnesota are participating in the

936
00:54:06.599 --> 00:54:11.320
theft of public largest. I mean, you've got forty nine

937
00:54:12.039 --> 00:54:15.679
states other states that have put money into the treasury

938
00:54:15.960 --> 00:54:20.000
to do good, and they are participating in fraud and corruption.

939
00:54:20.840 --> 00:54:22.400
They should have They should be shamed.

940
00:54:22.800 --> 00:54:27.880
I mean, yeah, they should be shamed. They're participating in

941
00:54:27.920 --> 00:54:31.239
that cover up. And they also are participating in not

942
00:54:31.440 --> 00:54:35.239
allowing people to be trying to prevent people from being deported,

943
00:54:35.639 --> 00:54:37.880
and those people who are being deported, some of them

944
00:54:37.920 --> 00:54:43.079
have committed heinous horrible crimes, reads, murders, attempted murders. You

945
00:54:43.119 --> 00:54:45.199
can sit there and say, oh, it's my neighbor. You

946
00:54:45.239 --> 00:54:49.119
can't kidnap my neighbor. They're not kidnapping your neighbor. They

947
00:54:49.119 --> 00:54:52.159
are arresting people in deporting people who do not belong

948
00:54:52.199 --> 00:54:56.239
in this country and have committed crimes. And until it's

949
00:54:56.320 --> 00:55:00.960
easy to gloss around the law and to ignore what

950
00:55:01.000 --> 00:55:03.280
the people have actually done that have led to the

951
00:55:03.320 --> 00:55:05.920
need to deport to them. But until it happens to

952
00:55:06.000 --> 00:55:08.480
you or a friend of yours or somebody who you know,

953
00:55:09.199 --> 00:55:11.559
it's really easy to just ignore it and pretend like

954
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it isn't real. But these people are not supposed to

955
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be here. They broke the law entering the country, and

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many of them have heinous criminal backgrounds and should never

957
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have been in our country in the first place.

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Well, we got to leave it there. Jenny Beth Martin, President,

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co founder of the Tea Party Patriots, Jenny Beth, where

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We do need you in this fight. Go to Tea

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Getting America Back on track, Bill Martinez Live, ol.

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Good Morning America, six minutes to the top of the

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are Bill Martinez here. And he's not my brother, We're

990
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not related, but he has a great last name. Louis

991
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Martinez joins us. Now, Hey, Luise, how you doing good?

992
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Good?

993
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Not cousins either, Bill, No, no.

994
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But hey, I'll tell you I'd be proud of you.

995
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I mean, you know, you're doing a lot of great

996
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work there at NTT TV. Of course, you're on the

997
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hill and you got to you know, as usual, there's

998
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all plenty of work to do there and things to

999
00:57:26.960 --> 00:57:30.440
stay on top of all things political. You know, you

1000
00:57:30.519 --> 00:57:34.840
have specialized in democratic theory, particularly studies in Latin America,

1001
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populism and post authoritarian transition, which is boy, I'll tell

1002
00:57:38.880 --> 00:57:42.039
you're the perfect expert right now for all things Venezuela. Right.

1003
00:57:42.679 --> 00:57:44.840
Yeah. I actually had a coworker tell me you were

1004
00:57:44.880 --> 00:57:47.239
born for this. I was like, well, I wish I

1005
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hadn't been born for this, because I am from Venezuela,

1006
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born and raised, and I had to leave at age

1007
00:57:53.519 --> 00:57:58.320
seventeen because of the persecution of political activists. And that's

1008
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why I decided to study democratic theory and post authoritarian

1009
00:58:01.280 --> 00:58:04.440
transition for a moment like this, and the moment has come.

1010
00:58:05.400 --> 00:58:05.559
Well.

1011
00:58:05.559 --> 00:58:07.840
I think also, you know, when something like that happens

1012
00:58:07.880 --> 00:58:11.519
to you, you asked the question, everybody asked why, you know,

1013
00:58:11.599 --> 00:58:14.679
what is the system? What is like here in America

1014
00:58:14.719 --> 00:58:17.440
today where we are right now, you know, where corruption

1015
00:58:17.639 --> 00:58:22.599
is abounding and illegal migration, on and on that is

1016
00:58:22.639 --> 00:58:25.159
going on in this country. I mean, we are going

1017
00:58:25.199 --> 00:58:29.559
through in a sense of cultural revolution to decide, Okay,

1018
00:58:29.880 --> 00:58:33.280
are we going to preserve this great American idea or

1019
00:58:33.320 --> 00:58:35.840
are we going to surrender it to socialism?

1020
00:58:36.559 --> 00:58:38.639
And I think that's something that that's very common Bill

1021
00:58:38.679 --> 00:58:44.480
and people coming from ex communist countries or people countries

1022
00:58:44.519 --> 00:58:47.880
that have suffered through socialism, is that it never seems

1023
00:58:47.880 --> 00:58:49.039
like it can happen.

1024
00:58:48.840 --> 00:58:50.079
To you until it does.

1025
00:58:50.599 --> 00:58:53.280
And moving here to the United States three years ago,

1026
00:58:53.480 --> 00:58:56.559
it's been warrisome to see so many of the same

1027
00:58:56.679 --> 00:58:59.960
signs that we saw early in the two thousands in Venezuela.

1028
00:59:00.079 --> 00:59:03.800
And it only took twenty years to destroy Venezuela from

1029
00:59:03.880 --> 00:59:07.960
the richest country in South America, most promising economic prospect

1030
00:59:08.079 --> 00:59:10.400
in the region to pretty much you know, in the

1031
00:59:10.440 --> 00:59:13.400
bottom of every table that you can see, we're right

1032
00:59:13.400 --> 00:59:17.960
there with Zimbabwe, with Somalia, with Haiti on any index

1033
00:59:18.039 --> 00:59:19.480
measuring human development.

1034
00:59:20.400 --> 00:59:24.679
Well, the good news is that you have natural resources,

1035
00:59:25.000 --> 00:59:28.000
you still have the wherewithal. They're in Venezuela and the

1036
00:59:28.000 --> 00:59:33.440
people themselves who are, yes, several decades away from democracy,

1037
00:59:34.480 --> 00:59:38.079
but it's not like it's you know, totally lost. They

1038
00:59:38.079 --> 00:59:41.639
have an opportunity right now. But you know, that's the

1039
00:59:41.679 --> 00:59:44.360
story of socialism. It finally runs out of gas, so

1040
00:59:44.400 --> 00:59:46.800
to speak, if I can use that term.

1041
00:59:47.159 --> 00:59:49.960
Yeah, and that was quite literally what happened in Venezuela.

1042
00:59:50.039 --> 00:59:54.800
Once the oil prices started to tumble after two thousand

1043
00:59:54.840 --> 00:59:57.920
and five thousand and seven, the government could no longer

1044
00:59:58.760 --> 01:00:02.280
just use welfare per grim's finance by oil revenues to

1045
01:00:02.800 --> 01:00:07.039
keep the population appeased. And they had nationalized pretty much

1046
01:00:07.280 --> 01:00:10.719
and every part of the of industry, and they just

1047
01:00:11.119 --> 01:00:15.039
ruined everything. We used to produce several million barrels of

1048
01:00:15.119 --> 01:00:19.000
oil per month in Venezuela and now we're only producing

1049
01:00:19.000 --> 01:00:21.719
about nine hundred thousand barrels of oil per month, and

1050
01:00:21.760 --> 01:00:25.840
that's because they destroyed the oil industry. And right now

1051
01:00:25.960 --> 01:00:29.519
Venezuelan's all over the world are very, very grateful for

1052
01:00:29.599 --> 01:00:33.280
what the Trump administration has done because they've at least

1053
01:00:33.360 --> 01:00:38.039
unlocked that gridlock, that political gridlock. So the regime had

1054
01:00:38.079 --> 01:00:41.360
control of the country obviously through means of repression and

1055
01:00:41.400 --> 01:00:46.199
through controlling weapons, state security surveillance, the national police, et cetera.

1056
01:00:46.360 --> 01:00:50.599
But now with Operation Absolute resolved, there's at least hope.

1057
01:00:50.760 --> 01:00:54.920
And the remaining of one third of the US Navy

1058
01:00:54.960 --> 01:00:57.679
by the coast in the Caribbean is like the constant

1059
01:00:57.719 --> 01:01:00.960
threat to the regime remnants that are right now in

1060
01:01:01.079 --> 01:01:03.760
charge of the country that they should fall in line

1061
01:01:03.800 --> 01:01:07.320
with a democratic transition or face the same fate that

1062
01:01:07.440 --> 01:01:10.000
Nicolas Maduro faced on January third.

1063
01:01:10.679 --> 01:01:12.960
Well, and I like the idea that the hope has

1064
01:01:13.119 --> 01:01:16.519
just grown in such a way that the rallying cry

1065
01:01:16.679 --> 01:01:20.079
is Stapasano. You know it's happening, right, I mean, it's

1066
01:01:20.800 --> 01:01:24.000
it's like when you hear that, it touches me in

1067
01:01:24.039 --> 01:01:28.000
such a way. You know, I got to say, Luis

1068
01:01:28.079 --> 01:01:31.119
that you know that's something that probably grandparents have been

1069
01:01:31.119 --> 01:01:34.360
telling the grandchildren, you know, yeah, it's going to happen,

1070
01:01:34.519 --> 01:01:36.280
and now they're saying, hey, it's happening.

1071
01:01:36.840 --> 01:01:41.039
It's it's hard to transmit that feeling if you haven't

1072
01:01:41.039 --> 01:01:41.760
gone through it.

1073
01:01:42.719 --> 01:01:44.280
But you know, since.

1074
01:01:44.039 --> 01:01:48.719
I've been ten years old, every year my family we've

1075
01:01:48.800 --> 01:01:51.000
gathered in December be like this is the year, this

1076
01:01:51.079 --> 01:01:52.519
is the year. And we'd always think it was going

1077
01:01:52.559 --> 01:01:54.800
to happen in December, by the way, because that's when

1078
01:01:54.840 --> 01:01:58.679
elections usually happened in Venezuela, And it was going to

1079
01:01:58.719 --> 01:02:02.440
happen in December thirty first, but weather did not allow

1080
01:02:02.440 --> 01:02:04.239
for it and it was pushed back the operation to

1081
01:02:04.360 --> 01:02:07.199
January third. But every year we were hoping, this is

1082
01:02:07.239 --> 01:02:10.320
the year things will change and will come back to democracy.

1083
01:02:10.320 --> 01:02:13.199
And let's also remember bill Venezuela used to be the

1084
01:02:13.199 --> 01:02:13.679
beacon of.

1085
01:02:13.679 --> 01:02:15.280
Democracy for South America.

1086
01:02:15.400 --> 01:02:18.559
So yes, of course, the US was always and has

1087
01:02:18.639 --> 01:02:22.239
been like the north star when we think about democracy

1088
01:02:22.239 --> 01:02:24.760
in the Americas as a whole. But in South America

1089
01:02:25.079 --> 01:02:29.599
fifty sixties, seventies and eighties, every other country had military dictatorships. Well,

1090
01:02:29.679 --> 01:02:33.599
Venezuela had a strong and vibrant democracy, and it was

1091
01:02:33.639 --> 01:02:35.800
sort of like everyone would talk about us, and that's

1092
01:02:35.840 --> 01:02:38.239
what we wanted to be, and now we were just

1093
01:02:38.320 --> 01:02:42.519
wanting to come back to that past that was so

1094
01:02:42.559 --> 01:02:45.800
beautiful that it had so much promise. And that's the

1095
01:02:45.840 --> 01:02:50.239
other thing. Also, bill eight million Venezuelans have left the

1096
01:02:50.280 --> 01:02:53.840
country since Maduro took power, and of course close to

1097
01:02:53.960 --> 01:02:57.960
nine million since the Socialist revolution started with Hugo Chaves.

1098
01:02:58.639 --> 01:03:01.360
And this is a country that was well endowed with

1099
01:03:01.440 --> 01:03:06.039
great universities, great schools, so professionals all over the world,

1100
01:03:06.239 --> 01:03:08.760
including here in the United States that have been able

1101
01:03:08.800 --> 01:03:11.960
to contribute a lot and are now willing to go

1102
01:03:12.039 --> 01:03:15.039
back to their country and rebuild that country with And

1103
01:03:15.079 --> 01:03:17.039
that's why I think it's very different. When people think

1104
01:03:17.039 --> 01:03:19.599
of like regime change, you maniately jump and think of

1105
01:03:19.639 --> 01:03:23.679
like Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan and like things that not necessarily

1106
01:03:23.760 --> 01:03:28.119
went the best way. They could be very different cultures,

1107
01:03:28.239 --> 01:03:32.639
very different populations, very different composition of society. This is

1108
01:03:32.679 --> 01:03:36.760
a Western oriented country that has had close ties with

1109
01:03:36.800 --> 01:03:41.000
the United States throughout pretty much his entire history, going

1110
01:03:41.079 --> 01:03:45.159
back to the independence of Venezuela from Spain. And now

1111
01:03:45.199 --> 01:03:47.920
there's a lot of people willing to go back rebuild.

1112
01:03:48.079 --> 01:03:53.119
There's not warring factions, there's no religious divisions in Venezuela.

1113
01:03:53.119 --> 01:03:57.360
It's actually a very homogeneous country. Ninety four percent Catholic,

1114
01:03:57.960 --> 01:03:59.880
so I think that the future is bright.

1115
01:04:01.000 --> 01:04:04.320
Well, the mainstream media can help themselves. So they're trying

1116
01:04:04.360 --> 01:04:08.199
to say at the border, they're at Colombia, in Colombia,

1117
01:04:08.239 --> 01:04:12.119
as the people are crossing from Venezuela into Colombia, and

1118
01:04:12.280 --> 01:04:14.519
some of the expats are just you know, they're just

1119
01:04:14.960 --> 01:04:17.280
they're burnt out, you know, some are leaving. You know,

1120
01:04:18.199 --> 01:04:20.960
I just don't have any hope. But it's not like

1121
01:04:21.000 --> 01:04:23.599
they're going to be hopeless, because I think once they

1122
01:04:23.679 --> 01:04:27.159
start seeing the rebuilding, you know, getting Maduro out of

1123
01:04:27.199 --> 01:04:31.000
there is step one. Now it's like, okay, where you know,

1124
01:04:31.079 --> 01:04:34.079
let's start building on that to where these things that

1125
01:04:34.519 --> 01:04:38.400
could have always been are realized and it will bring

1126
01:04:38.440 --> 01:04:40.320
people back to venezuel I mean, after all, this is

1127
01:04:40.360 --> 01:04:41.880
their home country. Right.

1128
01:04:42.599 --> 01:04:44.840
It will be a slow process, but the important thing

1129
01:04:44.960 --> 01:04:48.039
is to build that it started right. Yes, so Maduro

1130
01:04:48.119 --> 01:04:51.079
is out, The right signals are being sent, maybe for

1131
01:04:51.159 --> 01:04:53.760
the American audience when you hear President Trump saying, oh,

1132
01:04:53.800 --> 01:04:57.400
we're going to control Venezuela. American companies are to come

1133
01:04:57.440 --> 01:05:01.000
in and invest billions. That might not sell great for

1134
01:05:01.400 --> 01:05:03.400
left bleaning people here in the United States, but we

1135
01:05:03.400 --> 01:05:06.679
need to remember that this message is also for another audience,

1136
01:05:06.679 --> 01:05:10.039
which is the Venezuelan audience, which is the world investment community,

1137
01:05:10.519 --> 01:05:13.079
and all the right signals are being sent, so we

1138
01:05:13.159 --> 01:05:16.239
know that there is a threat against the regime that

1139
01:05:16.320 --> 01:05:18.440
they cannot go back to their old ways or they

1140
01:05:18.480 --> 01:05:20.280
will face the same fate as nicol Asma Dud. The

1141
01:05:20.360 --> 01:05:23.480
Venezuelan people are hearing American companies are coming in, and

1142
01:05:23.800 --> 01:05:26.639
we know what happened to Venezuela when American companies came

1143
01:05:26.679 --> 01:05:30.480
in in the nineteen thirties, forties, fifties and actually built

1144
01:05:30.559 --> 01:05:33.440
the Venezuelan oil industry. We became one of the richest

1145
01:05:33.440 --> 01:05:37.920
countries in the region. So immediately we've seen the Karaka

1146
01:05:37.960 --> 01:05:42.079
stock exchange jump seventeen points, the Venezuelan government bonds go up,

1147
01:05:42.400 --> 01:05:46.639
and also of course the shares of oil companies worldwide

1148
01:05:46.679 --> 01:05:50.480
are increasing because of the prospect of going into Venezuela,

1149
01:05:50.960 --> 01:05:54.400
largest oil proven oil reserves in the world and a

1150
01:05:54.519 --> 01:05:57.840
very friendly place to operate. Again, this is not the

1151
01:05:57.880 --> 01:06:01.239
Middle East with cultural difference. Is a language that is

1152
01:06:01.320 --> 01:06:05.239
far far away from English or what the American audience

1153
01:06:05.320 --> 01:06:08.280
is used to. You know, we've been hearing about Venezuela

1154
01:06:08.320 --> 01:06:11.199
and the United States for decades and vice versa.

1155
01:06:11.280 --> 01:06:12.480
Like what's the national.

1156
01:06:12.159 --> 01:06:15.800
Sport in Venezuela Baseball? Why? Because the Americans brought it

1157
01:06:15.840 --> 01:06:17.639
when they built the oil industry.

1158
01:06:18.119 --> 01:06:20.679
Exactly. Gotta go to quick break more from Luis after this,

1159
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Hey, we're back with you nineteen minutes after the top

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the hour right now, Bill Martinez with Luis Martinez, experienced

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political analysts with NTD TV, and we're talking. Well, there's

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just so much to unwrap here. You know, a lot

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of great news potentially, but as you said, Louise, this

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is going to take some times. It didn't happen overnight,

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and it's the correcting, you know. I think certainly Maduro

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is the was key to all this. But let me

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ask you, because there's lots of conspiracies out there. Some

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01:11:26.359 --> 01:11:30.960
are saying that Maduro took the safe, safest way out

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by having America come and arrest him. That typical of

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01:11:36.279 --> 01:11:39.760
any kind of communists or socialist running government when a

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01:11:39.880 --> 01:11:45.199
leader loses its position, they're conveniently assassinated and for the

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01:11:45.279 --> 01:11:48.560
sake of the cause, right, and that maybe this was

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01:11:50.039 --> 01:11:53.239
you know, a good thing for him, for his survival,

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01:11:53.439 --> 01:11:55.560
for he and his wife. What do you what do

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01:11:55.600 --> 01:11:56.439
you say about that.

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Well, first of all, the Trump administration had already been.

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In negotiations with the Maduro regime.

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They had offered Maduro a way out to go into exile,

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even take some of the money he stole from corruption

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01:12:10.439 --> 01:12:13.920
and maybe exile himself and cutter Russia or China, and

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01:12:14.000 --> 01:12:18.039
Nikodasma Luttle rejected those offers, and Maduro also actually demanded

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that one hundred other people from his regime be offered

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01:12:21.159 --> 01:12:25.039
the same deal. So, of course it's within the realm

1271
01:12:25.159 --> 01:12:29.159
of things that are possible that this was an extraction

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01:12:30.159 --> 01:12:36.000
instead of a operation to capture Nicolas Maduro. Nikodasmalulu is

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01:12:36.000 --> 01:12:38.640
still a very valuable asset for the United States when

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01:12:38.640 --> 01:12:41.840
it comes to intelligence, because, as we know, the Maduro

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01:12:41.880 --> 01:12:46.680
regime had very very very close ties with the communist

1276
01:12:47.119 --> 01:12:51.680
Cuban regime. Pretty much his entire inner security circle was

1277
01:12:51.760 --> 01:12:55.279
Cuban counterintelligence agencies and agents, and we know now that

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01:12:55.319 --> 01:12:57.800
at least thirty two of them were killed in that

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01:12:58.479 --> 01:13:01.640
operation absolutely resolved. We also know that the Maduro regime

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has given out in between twenty five hundred and five

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01:13:04.359 --> 01:13:09.359
thousand passports Venezuelan passports to Hesbola and Hamas operatives.

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01:13:09.520 --> 01:13:11.039
Obviously these are proxies of.

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01:13:10.920 --> 01:13:13.960
Iran, and now we're operating in Venezuela and in South

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01:13:14.000 --> 01:13:16.800
America because that Venezuelan passport allows you to travel through

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South America freely. And of course also the president of

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the presidents of the Chinese Communist Party and the Russian

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01:13:24.039 --> 01:13:27.399
government of Vladimir Putin through the Maduro regime in Venezuela.

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So I wouldn't.

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Discard it, I would put it in the fringe of

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01:13:31.439 --> 01:13:34.920
what probably happened. I think that what's most likely is

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that the current interim president of Venezuela, delziral Ldigaz, was

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the one that negotiated to give the information to the

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United States to capture Nico Les Malulo in order for

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her to get some sort of amnesty and pretty much

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01:13:47.960 --> 01:13:51.119
break the gridlock that was either way going to be

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01:13:51.359 --> 01:13:55.039
terrible for the country. And Delziraliga is the interim president

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of Venezuela right now. Her brother is also the president

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of the National Assembly, and she was the one who

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took over the oil industry in twenty twenty four after

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01:14:04.560 --> 01:14:07.560
a large corruption scandal was discovered.

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Inside the Maduro regime.

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So she's actually a figure that would be a very

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01:14:14.600 --> 01:14:17.640
pragmatic figure for the America, for the American government, the

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01:14:17.720 --> 01:14:21.119
Trump administration, to negotiate with in order to get things

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01:14:21.239 --> 01:14:25.159
kick started in a manner that is more beneficial for

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01:14:25.439 --> 01:14:31.319
Venezuelan's unfortunately also for the regime to survive for a

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01:14:31.359 --> 01:14:34.600
few months more, but also for the Trump administration and

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01:14:34.640 --> 01:14:36.600
the national security interests of the United States.

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Well, clearly there's a transition that's taking place. And I'm

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01:14:40.039 --> 01:14:41.520
glad you brought up Elsea because I was going to

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01:14:41.560 --> 01:14:45.319
ask you about her, because there's different you know, obviously,

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01:14:45.359 --> 01:14:49.479
everybody has a different spin on it and report and

1313
01:14:51.000 --> 01:14:53.680
maybe short term, you know, she's the best option to

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01:14:53.760 --> 01:14:56.159
keep it, you know, going sideways in some you know

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01:14:56.239 --> 01:14:59.960
kind of civil war happening there, which would just I mean,

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01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:02.960
and now you're talking something instead of a transition would

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01:15:02.960 --> 01:15:05.439
take maybe two to three years something that could be

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you know, five to eight.

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01:15:06.840 --> 01:15:10.159
Right, Yeah, So I think that's important for the audience

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01:15:10.159 --> 01:15:12.920
to understand. You can tople a dick here, you can

1321
01:15:12.960 --> 01:15:16.359
take the top of that pyramid away, but that doesn't

1322
01:15:16.399 --> 01:15:19.520
change the entire structure. Venezuela still has for twenty seven

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01:15:19.600 --> 01:15:23.399
years been ruled by this regime. The generals and the

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01:15:23.520 --> 01:15:27.199
armed forces are making enormous amount of money through corruption,

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01:15:27.399 --> 01:15:30.039
through the cartel of the suns, and through control of

1326
01:15:30.079 --> 01:15:34.039
the country. Same with the surveillance and security apparatus. So

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01:15:34.199 --> 01:15:36.399
for example, if you take Madu out and maybe put

1328
01:15:36.439 --> 01:15:39.840
Madcorina Machallo the opposition leader right away, what will happen.

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01:15:39.960 --> 01:15:42.760
You'd have a coup within a week or less of

1330
01:15:42.880 --> 01:15:45.119
the military trying to take over again. And we saw

1331
01:15:45.159 --> 01:15:47.479
this in meon Mar So like if you want to

1332
01:15:47.479 --> 01:15:50.159
look at a president, the exact same story happened. It's

1333
01:15:50.199 --> 01:15:53.680
also an oil producing country. The opposition leader also won

1334
01:15:53.720 --> 01:15:56.159
a noble peace price on suit she and when she

1335
01:15:56.560 --> 01:16:00.359
was placed into power, the military then oust her through

1336
01:16:00.399 --> 01:16:02.359
a coup and she's now in jail for more and

1337
01:16:02.399 --> 01:16:04.960
will be for at least twenty years. So I think

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01:16:04.960 --> 01:16:08.800
that the Trump administration had learned its lessons of foreign

1339
01:16:08.880 --> 01:16:11.720
interventions and understands that. Yeah, like if you leave the

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01:16:11.800 --> 01:16:15.239
regime in place, put enough pressure to understand that the

1341
01:16:15.279 --> 01:16:19.359
regime needs to change its behavior and allow for a

1342
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democratic transitions, things.

1343
01:16:21.000 --> 01:16:21.840
Will go better.

1344
01:16:22.520 --> 01:16:26.319
Unfortunately, these things usually come with some amnesty to some

1345
01:16:26.399 --> 01:16:28.319
actors in the regime, and of course a lot of event

1346
01:16:28.319 --> 01:16:30.640
as well as will want to see every single one

1347
01:16:30.680 --> 01:16:33.920
of them pay the price on the injustices that they

1348
01:16:33.960 --> 01:16:34.680
brought upon.

1349
01:16:34.520 --> 01:16:35.600
The Venezuelan people.

1350
01:16:35.720 --> 01:16:39.039
But in order to actually make this work, a lot

1351
01:16:39.079 --> 01:16:43.640
of them will likely be offered exile and amnesty. But

1352
01:16:43.840 --> 01:16:45.800
desi Olidas right now is the.

1353
01:16:45.720 --> 01:16:46.960
Steward of the regime.

1354
01:16:48.239 --> 01:16:52.560
I'm assuming Bill, that we will see elections soonest in

1355
01:16:52.680 --> 01:16:55.920
eight months, but at least within the next two years

1356
01:16:56.279 --> 01:16:59.760
in Venezuela. That will also allow for actually might have

1357
01:17:00.319 --> 01:17:03.159
child to run as a candidate, because she exactly not

1358
01:17:03.720 --> 01:17:06.239
wasn't a candidate in last year's elections, so that would

1359
01:17:06.399 --> 01:17:09.199
also allow her to be the one to take in

1360
01:17:09.479 --> 01:17:12.359
the reins. And and lastly, Bill, I think that if

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01:17:12.359 --> 01:17:13.880
I if I were in my care of Chile, I

1362
01:17:13.880 --> 01:17:16.439
wouldn't want to go into power right now because all

1363
01:17:16.479 --> 01:17:19.279
the odds would be against me. And whoever is in

1364
01:17:19.399 --> 01:17:22.720
power right now will be blamed for anything that goes

1365
01:17:22.760 --> 01:17:25.319
wrong in the next year two years. So and that

1366
01:17:25.520 --> 01:17:28.119
if it's Deasie and she leaves the country after a

1367
01:17:28.199 --> 01:17:31.760
year or two, then you know, if she's she's probably like, well,

1368
01:17:31.800 --> 01:17:33.600
who cares if I'm blamed that I can take some

1369
01:17:33.720 --> 01:17:37.600
million dollars and go to cutter or whatever. And that

1370
01:17:37.640 --> 01:17:39.960
would be good for a democratic transition in Venezuela as.

1371
01:17:39.880 --> 01:17:41.199
Supposed to going straight to jail.

1372
01:17:41.640 --> 01:17:41.760
Uh.

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You know, and with your study of Latin American populism,

1374
01:17:44.560 --> 01:17:46.880
as you laid out some of this, you know, because

1375
01:17:46.920 --> 01:17:50.239
this is a populist dynamic that's coming into play. I

1376
01:17:50.279 --> 01:17:54.479
mean there's some similarities with America and all this, right, Yeah,

1377
01:17:54.479 --> 01:17:57.399
because you had Donald Trump coming in his first term, right,

1378
01:17:57.720 --> 01:18:00.439
and he had to deal with this opposition and this

1379
01:18:00.600 --> 01:18:02.800
deep seated you know what they call the deep state

1380
01:18:02.840 --> 01:18:05.520
that Jerry Nandler says doesn't exist. I don't know what

1381
01:18:05.600 --> 01:18:08.359
kind of medication he's on, but that's okay. We can pretend,

1382
01:18:09.079 --> 01:18:12.079
but we know it does, but he insists it doesn't.

1383
01:18:12.119 --> 01:18:14.439
But you had to kind of get through that and

1384
01:18:14.520 --> 01:18:17.800
let it be exposed. And so say what you want

1385
01:18:17.840 --> 01:18:20.479
to say about the election of twenty twenty again, I

1386
01:18:20.560 --> 01:18:23.880
think that that worked into the advantage of an America

1387
01:18:23.960 --> 01:18:29.359
First campaign because because the existing regime, so to speak,

1388
01:18:30.920 --> 01:18:32.359
it exposed itself, didn't it.

1389
01:18:33.439 --> 01:18:33.920
Yeah.

1390
01:18:33.960 --> 01:18:37.359
And it's interesting because populism, you know, if you look

1391
01:18:37.359 --> 01:18:40.359
at most of the academic literature and populism which comes

1392
01:18:40.359 --> 01:18:43.319
from Europe is right wing populism. But for Latin America,

1393
01:18:43.720 --> 01:18:46.239
the history of populism has always come from the left,

1394
01:18:46.319 --> 01:18:50.319
socialists and communist governments and how they've sold and like

1395
01:18:50.560 --> 01:18:54.279
packaged all the grievances and obviously blamed the elites.

1396
01:18:54.319 --> 01:18:55.800
It's always the elites.

1397
01:18:55.399 --> 01:18:59.119
Who are to blame for what is happening, and similar

1398
01:18:59.199 --> 01:19:01.960
dynamics are happening in the United States or at least

1399
01:19:02.079 --> 01:19:07.560
right now. Yes, the America First, Make America Great Again

1400
01:19:07.640 --> 01:19:12.960
agenda had some populist tendencies in its discourse, but now

1401
01:19:13.000 --> 01:19:16.479
that it is the administration, now we see it in

1402
01:19:16.560 --> 01:19:20.159
the opposition like everything is blamed on Trump. There's nothing

1403
01:19:20.239 --> 01:19:22.960
in this country that is in Trump's fault. And that's

1404
01:19:23.000 --> 01:19:26.239
the only way that the left is able to mobilize

1405
01:19:26.640 --> 01:19:32.560
voters without really having any solution, just highlighting the grievances

1406
01:19:32.640 --> 01:19:36.359
in order to move people's emotions to the ballot box.

1407
01:19:36.359 --> 01:19:38.079
And this year will be really important for the United

1408
01:19:38.119 --> 01:19:41.119
States and that in that sense because of the midterm elections.

1409
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Hopefully we'll see the Trump administration deliver some results through

1410
01:19:46.199 --> 01:19:48.640
its policy so that people can see that it works.

1411
01:19:49.600 --> 01:19:52.319
And that's that's an issue in all of Latin America

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because of the inequality. So it's always easier to sell grievances.

1413
01:19:58.359 --> 01:20:01.119
It's always easier to blame others than come up with

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an actual agenda and a plan. Like if we look

1415
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at Haavier Mile in Argentina, he was actually exceptional in

1416
01:20:07.920 --> 01:20:10.640
bringing in a coalition by literally saying he was going

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01:20:10.720 --> 01:20:14.479
to cut all the welfare programs, reduced government spending because

1418
01:20:14.520 --> 01:20:16.680
there was no money in the country. But I guess

1419
01:20:16.920 --> 01:20:20.479
the Argentinians, you know, wisen up after more than like

1420
01:20:20.680 --> 01:20:25.279
seventy years of inflation and economic problems that you know,

1421
01:20:25.399 --> 01:20:28.880
more populism and paranism wasn't going to be the solution.

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01:20:29.840 --> 01:20:32.439
Well, and this is one of the reasons why a

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01:20:32.520 --> 01:20:35.439
free and fair election is so critical, especially for the

1424
01:20:35.479 --> 01:20:39.319
midterms coming up, because if the Democrats take control, we're

1425
01:20:39.319 --> 01:20:41.600
going to end up wasting a lot of political capital

1426
01:20:41.760 --> 01:20:44.920
on impeachment city, you know, because they just can't. They've

1427
01:20:44.920 --> 01:20:47.479
already said this as much. We got to leave it there.

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Luis Martinez, look forward to having you back. I so

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appreciate your insight and it's great to I'm just excited

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to see about what lies ahead, you know, for Venezuela.

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I mean America is on the verge of age, why

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not Venezuela. Right?

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Amen, Amen, Thank you for having me, Bill, and I

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look forward to share with you in the future, hopefully

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positive news coming from Venezuela and its relations with the US.

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I'm right with you. Take care, Luis Martinez stick here

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Hey, we're back with the America. Glad you could join us.

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I'm Bill Martinez and deb Ayer is going to be

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joining us in just a moment. She's with good RX.

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Because we're we're talking about, you know, January resolutions, you know,

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to be healthier. We're going to improve our health. We're

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you know, whether it's about eating better, improving fitness, and

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losing weight. And of course, the rise of popularity of

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glp ones like wagovi and zep bound for weight loss

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maybe changing how Americans approach their goals. Right, Debia, that's right.

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Weight loss is a common New Year's resolution, and gop

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ones are changing the way that people approach this in

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a pretty fundamental way. Goals that primarily relied on willpower

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can now become more realistic, more sustainable, and more measurable.

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Gop ones are prescription medicines that can regulate your appetite

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and blood sugar and can help people manage their weight

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and overall health. So, not surprisingly, the demand for these

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medicines has surged. However, insurance coverage continues to.

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Be a challenge.

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01:25:59.359 --> 01:26:02.840
The good news is that these medicines are becoming more affordable,

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and just earlier this month, the FDA approved the first

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ever oral version or pill for weight loss, and gurrx

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has access to the lowest discounted cash price for this

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pill at one hundred and forty nine dollars.

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That's excellent. Yeah, I had heard about that, so I'm

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glad you brought that up that now it's available in

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pill form. And initially when jlp it cut, I guess

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maybe you could say you could blame it on the

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celebrities because the celebrities really gravitated to this, and that

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really hiked the price because it was a supply and

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demand issue, right.

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That's right, the supply There were supply issues a couple

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of years ago, and the demand for these medicines has surged,

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and what that did was actually create an alternate market

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of knockoffs that are not FDA approved. So what you

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bring up is a very important point.

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Well, Divia. The other thing and you touched on this,

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which is really important, is you know the way this

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was introduced it was to deal with you know, heart

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issues and you know, leveling out our sugar and that

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sort of thing metabolically. And we're finding out that there's

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a lot, a lot more good associated with JLP.

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Right, that's right.

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These medicines are innovative and they're life changing for so

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many people. And there are a lot of options out there, right.

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I mentioned the fdairproof versions, compounded versions. There's also different types.

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There's the pill form, there's the injection pen, there's REGOVII,

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there's zep found. There's all these strengths and so good

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our X acts as that trusted access and affordability resource

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out there, what's safe, what's effective, and where to start.

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Well with good our X, you know getting of course

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you've been involved all along, but you know, with recent

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Research from GoodRx has shown that even people with insurance,

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Those are all priced separately, so you only pay for

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Well, is the weight loss will go be different than

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the one that's priced it, you know one ninety nine.

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Is it a different ingredients.

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It's the exact, vact, same ingredient semaglue tide, it's just

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in different forms. So the pill version that can be

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taken orally that's one hundred and forty nine dollars a month.

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And then the injection pen which is a self injector,

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that is one hundred and ninety nine dollars a month.

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Now I understand The difference is, especially with the pill form,

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is that you can take it with food as opposed

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to the injection. They recommend that you do, not that

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you do it on an empty stomach.

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Right, it's the other way round.

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Oh okay, all right, Yeah, I knew there was something there,

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so thank you.

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No, there is a difference and these types of clinical questions, right,

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that's why it's so important as a first step to

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talk to your doctor or licensed healthcare provider. The injection

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is taken typically once a week, and then the pill

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version is taken daily and has to be taken before food.

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Yeah, my audience is used to me saying things sometimes,

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and my doctor is often fond of telling me that

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one day I'm going to get arrested for practicing medicine

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without a license. So you know, listen, listen to the experts.

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They know better. So I'm sorry. I hope I didn't

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confuse anybody on this, but we got that straightened out now.

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But now available in pill form as well as injection.

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So the innovation that's been coming around, I mean, it's

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it's amazing how rapid this has happened, right, DEBM.

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That's right. Like I mentioned earlier, there's a ton of

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innovation happening in this space. These medicines are life changing

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for so many people. And now with these new affordable

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their options and figure out where to start.

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Well. Deviilleier started her career as an immunologist and clinical scientist,

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so she knows what she's talking about. Right again, you

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listen to her early in her career, she led multiple

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phase one through three clinical trials in farm across a

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GLP one is becoming more affordable and more people are

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going to have access to it, what advice do you

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have for people considering GLP ones but don't know where

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The first step would be to talk to your doctor,

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right and explain to our audience why that's right.

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When it's FD approved, it's gone through clinical testing and

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it's beenated, reviewed and approved.

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It's proven to be.

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Safe and effective, so you know what you're putting in

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your body. There's a whole market of knockoff versions, right,

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and the way to spot them would be if the

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price is really low, or if you can get it

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very easily without a prescription or without talking to a doctor,

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that's a red flag. And if it says compounded on

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it again, that tells you that it's not the real thing.

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It's a knockoff version.

1635
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Now, when they say it's a compound, explain to our

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audience a bit, because we run into that from time

1637
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to time when they say it's a compound, what are

1638
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they telling us?

1639
01:32:34.119 --> 01:32:38.439
So those compounded versions, they may have similar ingredients, but

1640
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they're not FDA approved, so they have not gone through

1641
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the rigorous process that a wig o V or a

1642
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zep bound have gone through. And so there is a

1643
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risk when you take a compounded version.

1644
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So in other words, you kind of turn yourself into

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a laborat.

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In other words, Yeah, so to speak, if we.

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Don't want that to happen to you, Okay, get the

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it happens. And also you get the kind of results

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that that you're expecting that people have been have been receiving.

1651
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You know, over the years, now, how long has GLP

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one's been in the marketplace.

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They've been in the market for a long time, and

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they were previously used only for diabetes. However, just in

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the last few years, we've had new innovative versions come

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to the market that have also been approved for weight loss.

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And then, like you said, you know, by word of

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mouth and with you know, celebrities talking about it and

1659
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the effectiveness that was seen with weight loss, the demand

1660
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for these medications has skyrocketed. So, yeah, these medicines have

1661
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been around for over a decade.

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Well, Debia, you've been awesome. Thank you so much for

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Hey, good to have you with us. Bill Martinez here

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along with Craig Rucker always going to be talking with Craig,

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especially when there's a new year around, because new year

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gives us new.

1762
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Hope, right, Craig absolutely, Hey, Happy new Year.

1763
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Happy new Year. Well, Craig is the founder and president

1764
01:39:15.399 --> 01:39:18.920
of c Fact and Craig lots of stuff to talk about,

1765
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particularly the story behind Trump's order halting Virginia offshore win.

1766
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What's going on?

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01:39:26.079 --> 01:39:30.840
Well, I say, Santa Trump actually delivered a lump of Cold,

1768
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the Dominion Energy, and five other offshore wind companies right

1769
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at the route. Two days before Christmas. As a matter

1770
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of fact, he issued a well it was through. It

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was through, the Department of Interior issued a stop work

1772
01:39:45.039 --> 01:39:48.279
order as they reviewed the permits that were agreed to

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under the Biden administration, and he stopped those permits based

1774
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on national security concerns. It appears that Biden administration basically

1775
01:39:58.079 --> 01:40:01.319
ignored warnings and studies that can from the US Navy

1776
01:40:01.359 --> 01:40:05.359
and others that building these offshore wind sites near some

1777
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of our nation's largest naval ports could disrupt communications training exercises. Indeed,

1778
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even some of these actually could hide Chinese subs. So

1779
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this is of course, was no big deal to the

1780
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Biden administration because you know, having Chinese subs off the

1781
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US coast is small potatoes compared to the horrific things

1782
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that could come from you know, climate change that Albright predicts.

1783
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So from their perspective, they rushed through the permits. From

1784
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the Trump administration's perspective, they said, not so fast. We

1785
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want to review these things.

1786
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That it defies common sense. I mean how I mean,

1787
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it's like every time they pull back another layer of

1788
01:40:49.079 --> 01:40:54.800
the skin of the Biden onion. It's just it's incomprehensible

1789
01:40:55.239 --> 01:40:58.039
how they could come to that conclusion to put our

1790
01:40:58.119 --> 01:41:01.039
national security at risk like that, all in the name

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and for the sake of alleged climate change.

1792
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Yes, well that's just the that's just the prepostor you know,

1793
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the preposter's way in which this is all being done.

1794
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A lot of people wonder why this mad rush Orgia,

1795
01:41:17.399 --> 01:41:20.680
not just offshore wind but onshore wind, solar energy wire

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prices going up in our rates, and that it's all

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based on climate change alarmism. Of course, they've been saying

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for many decades that the world's coming to an end,

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that we will we're seeing worse tornadoes, hurricanes, things of

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that sort. We like to at Sea Fact every month

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produce a climate reality fact check, and we really encourage

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your listeners to go there because every month, whether it's

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from the New York Times, it could be from CBS

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01:41:48.760 --> 01:41:51.760
News or whatever, they're making claims about, you know, the

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driest ever in California, or this hurricane that hit Florida

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01:41:55.159 --> 01:41:59.319
is unprecedented, and we you know, look at these things

1807
01:41:59.359 --> 01:42:01.159
and they're just patently false.

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I mean, well, but I say that anyone at any point, Craig,

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do they try to be objective? I mean, I get it.

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I mean they're ideologues. And here it is. We've been

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battling this windmill in the name of Don Quixote for

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01:42:17.000 --> 01:42:20.800
what three decades at least, and you know, in this

1813
01:42:20.920 --> 01:42:24.680
imaginary windmill keeps kicking their butt, but they insist it's

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still there.

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Right they do as a matter of fact, what they

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you know, as I say, they they're deceptive on how

1817
01:42:31.279 --> 01:42:33.920
they put this in case in points you know, I

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01:42:33.920 --> 01:42:36.119
remember this goes back to I think it was a

1819
01:42:36.199 --> 01:42:39.159
Hurricane Heleen when it hit Florida a few years ago,

1820
01:42:39.199 --> 01:42:41.600
and they say, this is the first time that a

1821
01:42:41.720 --> 01:42:46.720
hurricane has hit this portion of Florida ever, it's unprecedented. Well,

1822
01:42:46.720 --> 01:42:49.800
that's correct technically, but if they went fifty miles to

1823
01:42:49.880 --> 01:42:52.600
the west or fifty miles to the east, bigger ones

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01:42:52.600 --> 01:42:55.720
have hit. But they're technically correct that it never hit

1825
01:42:55.800 --> 01:42:59.880
this exact location in Florida. With this this, you know,

1826
01:43:00.039 --> 01:43:03.199
you don't have record of that. That's deceptive because one

1827
01:43:03.239 --> 01:43:05.479
gets the impression when they hear this that nothing's ever

1828
01:43:05.520 --> 01:43:08.039
struck this where. You know, it be like you going

1829
01:43:08.039 --> 01:43:11.760
into your living room and saying, I never ever ate

1830
01:43:11.800 --> 01:43:14.840
potato chips in this corner before. It's unprecedented. Well you

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01:43:15.039 --> 01:43:17.840
probably eight potato chips all over your room, but not

1832
01:43:18.000 --> 01:43:21.520
in this one corner, you know, So it's you know,

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01:43:21.600 --> 01:43:24.760
so technically they're not lying, but they're deceptive, and that's

1834
01:43:24.800 --> 01:43:26.119
how they do a lot of this stuff.

1835
01:43:26.119 --> 01:43:28.359
And the thing that's so embarrassing about it, Craig, but

1836
01:43:28.399 --> 01:43:30.760
they have no shame, so they can't be embarrassed. I mean,

1837
01:43:31.319 --> 01:43:34.039
normal people with a sense of common sense and reason

1838
01:43:34.119 --> 01:43:36.840
would be embarrassed. But you know, you go into their

1839
01:43:36.840 --> 01:43:41.000
living rooms and there's there's evidence of potato chip droppings

1840
01:43:41.319 --> 01:43:43.720
in every other spot right exactly.

1841
01:43:44.039 --> 01:43:47.840
And that's exactly how they do these things. So you know,

1842
01:43:48.079 --> 01:43:50.279
when you call them liars, they'll say, well, has it

1843
01:43:50.399 --> 01:43:53.640
ever hit here in Florida before? To their credit are

1844
01:43:53.760 --> 01:43:55.840
our side and the past we used to just not

1845
01:43:56.039 --> 01:43:58.399
challenge these things. I was very encouraged. And this goes

1846
01:43:58.399 --> 01:44:02.439
back to the Helene incident that DeSantis actually read the

1847
01:44:02.479 --> 01:44:05.960
stuff that came from Sea Fax. Chris Martz, he's our

1848
01:44:06.039 --> 01:44:10.439
young meteorologist we have on staff, and he sent the

1849
01:44:10.479 --> 01:44:13.760
stuff to DeSantis's office that when a reporter came up

1850
01:44:13.800 --> 01:44:16.920
to him and made that preposterous claim. DeSantis just rattled

1851
01:44:16.960 --> 01:44:20.640
off facts and it was dismissive, and it left the reporter,

1852
01:44:21.000 --> 01:44:24.439
you know, speechless, kind of because they hadn't They don't

1853
01:44:24.479 --> 01:44:27.159
even know what they're saying. I'm not entirely sure that

1854
01:44:27.199 --> 01:44:29.640
many in the liberal media even understand what's coming out

1855
01:44:29.680 --> 01:44:30.800
of their mouth half the time.

1856
01:44:31.319 --> 01:44:34.039
Well, this is why we continue to insist that we

1857
01:44:34.079 --> 01:44:36.920
want the truth, the whole truth, and nothing. But because

1858
01:44:36.920 --> 01:44:39.479
that's all been obliterated, just as you said, it's all

1859
01:44:39.479 --> 01:44:42.159
been nuanced in such a way to fit an agenda

1860
01:44:42.199 --> 01:44:45.479
and ideology that at the end of the day, is

1861
01:44:45.520 --> 01:44:49.720
it helping or hurting? And after all this investment, trillions

1862
01:44:49.720 --> 01:44:55.439
of dollars chasing down this imaginary windmill, you know what

1863
01:44:55.479 --> 01:44:58.000
do we have to show for it? A lot of negative.

1864
01:44:58.039 --> 01:45:00.560
I don't see anything positive out of it, do you.

1865
01:45:00.560 --> 01:45:00.640
No.

1866
01:45:01.119 --> 01:45:03.640
One thing that's for sure hasn't happened, is it has

1867
01:45:03.720 --> 01:45:08.399
not changed the weather one iota or the climate one iota.

1868
01:45:09.039 --> 01:45:13.199
We're not experiencing any real differences. After the billions were

1869
01:45:13.239 --> 01:45:16.119
spending on climate change, you know, putting in solar panels,

1870
01:45:16.119 --> 01:45:19.119
wind panels, trying to force people in new electric vehicles,

1871
01:45:19.119 --> 01:45:21.880
getting rid of your hair dryers, not eating red meat.

1872
01:45:22.600 --> 01:45:24.560
You know, all these different things they're asking us to

1873
01:45:24.600 --> 01:45:28.760
do that does not impact the weather in any one way.

1874
01:45:28.800 --> 01:45:31.760
And we know this because we have long range record

1875
01:45:31.840 --> 01:45:34.560
data that we can go back and see. You know

1876
01:45:34.640 --> 01:45:38.159
that any modest warming that's occurred largely occurred as a

1877
01:45:38.159 --> 01:45:40.479
result of coming out of what they call the Little

1878
01:45:40.520 --> 01:45:43.479
Ice Age in the late eighteen hundreds. We're now returning

1879
01:45:43.479 --> 01:45:45.880
into the levels that are not unprecedented. If you went

1880
01:45:45.920 --> 01:45:48.680
back a thousand years ago, during the Medieval warm period,

1881
01:45:49.920 --> 01:45:52.319
temperatures were hotter than they are today. And we know

1882
01:45:52.399 --> 01:45:55.600
this not by necessarily. I mean, common sense can tell you.

1883
01:45:55.680 --> 01:46:00.159
The Vikings, for example, farmed in Greenland. Greenland's back the

1884
01:46:00.159 --> 01:46:03.840
news now that Trump's righting about it, but there was

1885
01:46:03.880 --> 01:46:06.319
a time when the Vikings had a settlement there. They

1886
01:46:06.399 --> 01:46:08.720
abandoned it in the fourteen hundreds because of the fact

1887
01:46:08.760 --> 01:46:11.199
it got really cold. We know that there were forests

1888
01:46:11.199 --> 01:46:14.079
and parts of Alaska that were around in one thousand

1889
01:46:14.119 --> 01:46:17.199
and eighty that are now under glaciers. So you know

1890
01:46:17.279 --> 01:46:19.840
the world went through a cools period. We're now returning

1891
01:46:19.880 --> 01:46:22.000
to a time that's probably like it was a thousand

1892
01:46:22.079 --> 01:46:26.560
years ago, and that was before we had SUV's coal

1893
01:46:26.600 --> 01:46:28.960
plants or anything. So this warming and cooling of the

1894
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earth occurs naturally. We're not seeing anything that requires alarm

1895
01:46:33.560 --> 01:46:35.960
or concern. And in fact, the world was a better

1896
01:46:36.000 --> 01:46:40.439
place back then. People actually had better health and longer

1897
01:46:40.520 --> 01:46:43.279
term lifestyles than they did once the cool cold weather

1898
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came in.

1899
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Right. But meanwhile, the left and these climate alarmists can't

1900
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help themselves and they'll just boldfaced lighting like they did

1901
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in Los Angeles, right with the fires. Oh, it's because

1902
01:46:56.199 --> 01:46:58.920
of climate change, until they found out that it was

1903
01:46:59.039 --> 01:47:03.279
actually an arsonist exactly. Maybe and maybe he had a

1904
01:47:03.279 --> 01:47:06.720
T shirt on that said I'm for climate changement. And

1905
01:47:06.840 --> 01:47:10.439
so somehow they can plead some sort of you know,

1906
01:47:10.520 --> 01:47:13.199
some sort of minor credibility or something, right.

1907
01:47:13.560 --> 01:47:16.520
Oh yeah, Gavin Newsome in particular, I mean, he's never

1908
01:47:16.680 --> 01:47:20.119
reclaimed any responsibility, even though they got people out in

1909
01:47:20.159 --> 01:47:23.199
California still protesting over the fact they can't remove brush

1910
01:47:23.199 --> 01:47:24.680
in front of their places.

1911
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Because unbelievable five hundred homes, I guess is all they've

1912
01:47:28.520 --> 01:47:32.119
gotten to in the Los Angeles area. And he's claiming

1913
01:47:32.159 --> 01:47:34.840
they're doing a much better job than they are in Hawaii.

1914
01:47:36.239 --> 01:47:39.680
Well, that's not saying much. Hawaii is also pretty irresponsible

1915
01:47:39.720 --> 01:47:41.680
and all that. I mean, I remember when there was

1916
01:47:41.720 --> 01:47:44.359
flooding in San Francisco, he said this was a climate change,

1917
01:47:44.399 --> 01:47:47.520
unprecedented until we showed pictures from the eighteen sixties that

1918
01:47:47.560 --> 01:47:50.640
showed all of San Francisco just about underwater. So this

1919
01:47:50.760 --> 01:47:54.239
is not unprecedented. Even in Ashville, North Carolina, as horrific

1920
01:47:54.279 --> 01:47:57.840
as that was there, we got old photos of that

1921
01:47:57.920 --> 01:48:01.119
being inundated with flooding. So this is these are things

1922
01:48:01.159 --> 01:48:04.399
that they're unprecedented from our perspective because none of us

1923
01:48:04.439 --> 01:48:06.520
were around in eighteen sixty or in the early nine

1924
01:48:06.600 --> 01:48:10.680
nine hundreds, So in that regard, yes, And that's another

1925
01:48:10.720 --> 01:48:13.920
way they deceive quite often. They'll often say it's the

1926
01:48:13.960 --> 01:48:17.680
warmest it's ever been in the modern record era. Well,

1927
01:48:17.720 --> 01:48:21.239
the modern record era goes to nineteen seventy nine. Yeah,

1928
01:48:21.399 --> 01:48:22.760
so I mean that's a fair mine.

1929
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Give me a break wind, give me yeah, give me

1930
01:48:25.279 --> 01:48:30.319
a break here. And you know, speaking of Newsom and

1931
01:48:30.399 --> 01:48:34.880
these other blue states, it's interesting because you see the

1932
01:48:34.920 --> 01:48:37.960
correlation with these blue states and the cost of energy

1933
01:48:38.520 --> 01:48:41.159
electricity prices, and I got to tell you, I was shocked.

1934
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You know, for example, what happened in New Jersey. You

1935
01:48:44.279 --> 01:48:47.600
know why the voters cannot make that correlation and they

1936
01:48:47.640 --> 01:48:52.239
bring in somebody who is a climate alarmist that is

1937
01:48:52.279 --> 01:48:55.279
going to give them higher electricity prices because they want

1938
01:48:55.279 --> 01:48:57.640
to hold on to this green agenda.

1939
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I know, it's it's it's bizarre. And you've got to

1940
01:49:00.680 --> 01:49:02.960
even wonder in New York City while they elected what

1941
01:49:03.039 --> 01:49:06.560
they did. I mean, people are concerned about high rent,

1942
01:49:06.680 --> 01:49:10.319
high prices, energy prices. They're putting in the very culprits

1943
01:49:10.319 --> 01:49:13.720
that are driving up those costs. I mean, it should

1944
01:49:14.079 --> 01:49:16.439
it should be common sense now. I mean, when Trump

1945
01:49:16.479 --> 01:49:19.199
came in back in twenty sixteen, America moved from an

1946
01:49:19.319 --> 01:49:25.520
energy net importer to an exporter. Gas prices fell. Biden

1947
01:49:25.560 --> 01:49:28.279
comes in, benefits from that for a little while, but

1948
01:49:28.319 --> 01:49:31.479
then prices start skyrocketing as he chokes off where our

1949
01:49:31.520 --> 01:49:34.800
supply and everything comes. And then of course Trump comes

1950
01:49:34.800 --> 01:49:38.800
back in. We're again enjoying fairly good gas prices and

1951
01:49:38.840 --> 01:49:42.039
all that. And you know, the people who are actually

1952
01:49:42.079 --> 01:49:45.640
responsible for that were just elected in. And I just

1953
01:49:45.720 --> 01:49:49.720
think that people are too easily deceived and they're promising,

1954
01:49:50.439 --> 01:49:53.039
you know, but I see this all the time people

1955
01:49:53.119 --> 01:49:55.680
when the left makes a claim, they'll say, hey, we're

1956
01:49:55.680 --> 01:49:59.760
going to give you free everything. Well, as Margaret Thatcher said,

1957
01:50:00.199 --> 01:50:02.800
it always works until you run out of other people's money,

1958
01:50:02.840 --> 01:50:04.399
and then all of a sudden the costs go up

1959
01:50:04.439 --> 01:50:05.880
and you lose a little bit of freedom.

1960
01:50:06.600 --> 01:50:10.239
Well, maybe with us capturing some of these Venezuelan TAC tankers,

1961
01:50:10.439 --> 01:50:13.840
we can replenish our strategic petroleum reserve. What do you think?

1962
01:50:14.399 --> 01:50:17.079
I like the idea, although I know the Guardian magazine

1963
01:50:17.119 --> 01:50:20.520
out of England just yesterday said that having all that

1964
01:50:20.800 --> 01:50:25.079
oil flood the planet, you know, with driving down gas prices,

1965
01:50:25.199 --> 01:50:29.199
will be an environmental climate catastrophe. So they're seeing only

1966
01:50:29.279 --> 01:50:33.319
bad things far left from all this oil that will

1967
01:50:33.359 --> 01:50:37.640
now benefit and keep our you know, economies humming along. That's,

1968
01:50:37.720 --> 01:50:40.720
you know, from the far left perspective, a horrific.

1969
01:50:40.279 --> 01:50:43.039
Thing, right. Well, to stay on top of the truth,

1970
01:50:43.039 --> 01:50:45.119
the whole truth and nothing. But you want to check

1971
01:50:45.159 --> 01:50:49.239
out Sea Fact's website, the website, mister Craig, Yes.

1972
01:50:49.319 --> 01:50:52.720
You can, and I would encourage all your listeners to

1973
01:50:52.800 --> 01:50:56.439
go there at c fact dot org. That's cf act

1974
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dot org, CFaCT dotg and we give out free updates.

1975
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You just got to put your email in there and

1976
01:51:05.039 --> 01:51:07.239
we'll send it to you for free, just to keep

1977
01:51:07.279 --> 01:51:09.640
in touch with all these different issues that we're talking

1978
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about here today.

1979
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He's a c fact founder and president, Craig Rucker. Thank you, Craig, Take.

1980
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Care, Thanks Bill. Always a pleasure.

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