Sept. 29, 2025

Defiant: Inside the Mar-a-Lago Raid and the Left's Ongoing Lawfare

Defiant: Inside the Mar-a-Lago Raid and the Left's Ongoing Lawfare
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Season 2

She was an eye and ear witness to what happened when the FBI raided Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago residence. The attorney Christina Bobb reveals in her latest book, Defiant, the battle for America’s future the shocking, personal account takes readers behind the scenes of the infamous Mar-a-Lago raid, exposing unprecedented abuses of power: FBI agents breaking locks while offered keys, denying Trump’s representatives access, and seizing privileged documents under a shroud of secrecy.

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Well, hello and good afternoon. Bill Martinez here with you

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and got a real treat for you. Christina Bob a

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new book. We had spoken with her, I think about

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a year a year and a half ago about the election,

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the twenty twenty four election, and she's got a new

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book titled Defiant. Inside the Marlago Raid and the Left's

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ongoing lawfare. There's so much to this story, as you

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know instinctively, and you knew from day one there was,

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and fortunately for us, Christina was there as an eyewitness,

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as an ear witness, everything that happened on that incredible

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day when the FBI came upon mar Lago to invade

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the president's personal home. And I know you're probably still wondering,

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how could this be in the United States of America. Well,

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this is a gripping, first hand expose of the coordinated

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legal and I underlined that a coordinated legal and political

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attack against Donald Trump and his allies, revealing the Deep

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State's efforts to undermine democracy. Bob, welcome the show. Good

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to have you with us. Bill Well, Christina, I'm glad

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you could join us to talk about this book to

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find inside the Marlago raid and the left's ongoing lawfair

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Welcome the show. Good to have you with us.

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Thank you so much. I'm so excited to be here.

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Well, I'm excited to have everyone hear your story because

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this is first and this is eyewitness air witness. You

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were there at Marlago when this all came about, and

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little did you know, I think you were sensitive. As

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I was reading your book, your spidey senses kicked into

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Garrett to realize that you were being pulled into a

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bit of a hot potato and understanding that the Deep

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State had already gone after Donald Trump in many ways,

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and of course with your investigations and things that you

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had come to reveal and realize with the twenty twenty election,

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you knew you had to be on guard. And of

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course the way other not only the president the lawfair

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that was executed against him, but other attorneys as well,

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So you instinctively knew that you were on kind of

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hallowed ground here, right.

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Yeah, it was pretty clear that the Department of Justice

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was not actually after justice. They were purely operating on

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political motivation to try to silence and support their political opponent,

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Donald Trump, and they were willing to go to extraordinary

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lengths to do so. They were willing to throw innocent

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Americans in prison, most of them were the January six ers.

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They were willing to upend the lives of many great,

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great Americans who have worked hard, loved this country, Rudy Giuliani,

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Mark Meadows, John Eastman, you know, Jeff Clark that there

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are a lot of really.

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Great Americans that the list is long, and very long.

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List, exactly. And then they were also willing to destroy

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lives of Americans that just were in the mix, like

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myself and my colleagues that might not have had the

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name of Donald Trump or Rudy Giuliani, but I was

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there working with them, you know, on behalf of their

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political objectives, and as a result, you know, I wasn't

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I wasn't allowed to continue the work that I was doing.

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They were going to do everything they could to stop me,

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and they were going to use the force of the

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Department of Justice to do so, the Department of just

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I mean, I was investigated by everybody, Congress, the Department

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of Justice, State of Arizona, the California Bar the FBI.

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I mean, I had everybody come after me in the

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span of Apartment of Homeland Security in about three years,

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you know, six months in and six months prior to

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the end of the Biden administration. They I mean, they

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threw everything they had. I mean, I'm still a criminal

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defendant as we speak. Their case is falling apart, thankfully,

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but they are still trying to destroy the lives of

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Americans who were contesting the twenty twenty election.

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I don't think people understand how diabolical this is and

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what this is like for you, you know, personally. I mean, here,

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you are former marine, you were a uh you you

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were you were in the judge advocate right in the

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Marine Corps. Yeahs, yeah, so you serve you serve the

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Marine Corps. You get out of the Marine Corps, you

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go into private practice, and along the way you end

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up doing some work for Donald Trump. And uh, explain

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how that how that began your relationship with the President Trump?

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Right? So I got out of the Marine Corps and

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joined the Trump administration. The first Trump administration, I was

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at the Department of Homeland Security for that I was

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the executive secretary there. And that was during the Miles Taylor, Chadwolf,

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Chris Krebs era where they were all kind of running

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interference on the Department of Homeland Security. So I knew

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I very much and was very vocal in support of

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President Trump, and so I knew I wasn't going to

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really get anywhere with that crowd. So I decided to

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get out and try to come back in. Of course,

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I thought he was going to win the twenty twenty election.

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I believe he did win, but I thought he was

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you in.

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About ninety percent of America, yeah, And so.

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I thought he would have his second term right away.

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And so the plan was to get out and then

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come back in, you know, in a different capacity. And

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I ended up going to one American News. I left

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the Trump administration went to One American News, and I mean,

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what a time to become a reporter.

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Right exactly, with all this inside information that you have

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with you, Yes, exactly, Yeah, So you know.

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It worked out. I became a reporter, you know, less

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than six months prior to the twenty twenty election. I

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ended up covering the twenty twenty election. I was there

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on election. That's my first book, actually Stealing Your Vote.

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But through that process, I actually got to know the

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president because he was following my reports, he was watching

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what I was reporting on, and I developed a connection

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with him that way. And then, you know, obviously the

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election didn't go the way we all anticipated it going.

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And so I continue to report on the election, and

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I continue to investigate and figure out what was going

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on in all of these states. And through my investigation,

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the President said, you know, we're putting together a team.

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I'm making a comeback in twenty four. Why don't you

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join my team and help me secure the election for

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twenty twenty four, which is ultimately what I did. So

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I began officially working for him in twenty twenty two.

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Well in Stealing Your Vote, The inside story of the

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twenty twenty election, what it means for twenty two for

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your first book. Uh, just sure that real quick for

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our audience.

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Yeah. Well, the way I like to summarize it is

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Democrats cheated and Republicans covered it up. It was very

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much a bipartisan effort to get Donald Trump out of

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the political game. I mean, we all saw what happened

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on election day with them keeping Republicans out of the

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counting rooms, boarding up the windows, the midnight ballot dumps.

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I mean, the list goes on and on. Prior to that,

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they set up the mail in ballot issue with COVID.

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Uh you know, that gave them emergency authorization, which they

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they meaning these liberal state secretaries of state and governors,

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created these emergency plans where they just changed election law,

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changed election on the fly, on the flight right, So

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the whole manner in which the election was conducted was illegal.

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And that, you know, that kind of blindsided everybody because

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we were dealing with COVID, and everyone's kind of like, well,

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what are we supposed to do with this? And so

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that created a bunch of questions and a bunch of problems.

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And then one the Republicans either didn't bother to fight

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it initially and then after the fact, the Republicans were

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covering it up. I mean, especially in places like Pennsylvania

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in Michigan, it was the Republicans really working against those

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of us who were trying to fight for transparency and

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trying to do audits. And I spent a lot of

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time in Arizona on the ground during that audit in

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twenty twenty one. I reported live from the Arizona Audit

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I think every single day, almost every single day. And yeah,

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I mean it was the Republicans that really tried to

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sweep it all under the rug.

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I think people are going to be surprised when they

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first hear And of course we reported on this, and

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you were on the show before and we talked about,

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you know, the Republican cover up again. Can you unwrap

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that just a little bit more.

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Yeah, Well, so, for example, the Arizona Audit was initiated

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by the Republican Senate in response to the Republican constituent

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or just the constituents in Arizona saying, hey, we don't

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trust the results of our election. We want an audit.

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So the Arizona Senate launched an audit. The people of

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Pennsylvania started doing the same thing, started clamoring for an

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audit in Pennsylvania, and it was the Republican Senate in

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Pennsylvania that shut it down. They said, no, we're not

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going to look into this. And it was Jake Corman specifically,

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was the President of the Senate in Pennsylvania, Republican, who

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did everything he could sport the effort. There was a

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I think it's called the Government Accountability Committee or something

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some similar name to that, where they were planning on

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investigating through their committee and the President shut it down.

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I mean, same thing happened in Wisconsin. They wanted an

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audit in Wisconsin. The Republican Speaker of the Assembly in

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Wisconsin was the one that shut down the audit that

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the people wanted it instead hired this other team to

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do it. And then when the people continued to push

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back on that, he finally appointed a special council to

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do an investigation in Wisconsin. And the special council found

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that there was a prima facial case for bribery and

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that the election in Wisconsin was conducted illegally and they

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disbarred him for it. So rather than actually take it

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into considerations, say hey, we need to prosecute these people.

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They disbarred the special counsel who made the finding that

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the election was conducted illegally and a violation of bribery

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laws in Wisconsin. And that I mean that we say

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the same thing in Georgia.

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You know, I was going to ask you the same

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thing in Georgia right now.

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Yeah, And it's all Republicans Michigan. It was a Michigan

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It was a Republican House and Senate in Michigan, which

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they buried it. They issued a report saying you should

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consider prosecuting people who are challenging the elections. This was

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a Republican recommendation. So it was really the Republicans that

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targeted the Trump supporters.

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Wow, what was was it just the Republicans? The rhinos

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in that are just they were just so disturbed by

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the things that Donald Trump was doing because he was

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an outsider. I mean, what what is the basis of this, uh,

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you know, of this relentless attack against President Trump, especially

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after all the good things he did in his first term. Yeah.

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Well, you know, I don't know everyone's individual motivation, but

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what it appears to me, if I could paint with

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a broad brush, it appears that Donald Trump was changing

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the political landscape. You know, he was changing the way

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the game was played. He was changing the level of transparency.

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He was extraordinary and continues to be extraordinarily accessible. He

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communicates directly with the people, and the people were starting

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to want more information from the government, and we're trying

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to hold the government accountable. And the Republicans didn't want

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that either, just like Democrats don't want that. So I

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think the establishment Republicans didn't want the level of transparency

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that MAGA wanted, and Donald Trump was driving that that,

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you know, that was his agenda, and so they just

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worked really hard to get him out.

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Well, Christianea, the thing is is that all that Donald

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Trump was revealing was the stuff that the majority of

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Americans suspected. Yeah, you know, we suspected that all the

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three letter agencies in our government were corrupt. We just

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didn't have evidence. We just all everybody just spoke about

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it anecdotally suspected this was the case, because I mean,

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you didn't have to be a genius. You know, I

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think sometimes we over analyze this stuff, but I always say,

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just look at the fruit on the tree. Yeah, the

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fruit on the tree is quite telling. And it's very obvious,

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and here it is, and thank god for Donald Trump

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beginning to reveal it. Now it's up to we, the people,

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the basis of our constitution, to do something about it.

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They spoke loud and clear in twenty twenty four, but

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still the resistance continues.

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Right, Yeah, I think it does. I think it's I

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think you're right. They spoke very loud in twenty twenty four,

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and I think we're continuously moving more towards being able

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to hold the government accountable. But it's not at all

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all a sure thing. I think the fact that there's

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been an indictment on former FBI director Jim's comy, I

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think that's a great first step that goes to show

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that the indictments do go both ways. You know, the

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liberals just want to throw conservatives in prison without being

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held accountable for their own actions. So I'm happy to

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see that indictment. I want to see more. I something

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come for Bolton and then, you know, I've heard all

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the rumblings that everybody else has heard, but I want

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to see them. I want to see the indictments come out.

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But yeah, I expect to see more.

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More on the way I was kind of changing. In

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the other day with our daily audience, Christina that Donald

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Trump and Milania were walking on the beach and they

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came across some shelves that said, you know, uh, indict comy.

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Right, just so happened, and just I was waiting, I.

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Was waiting for that meme. I thought, somebody surely is

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going to put that meme out there.

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Yeah, I think I saw something like that. You know,

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everyone changing Komy's stupid little beach walk.

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I know, incredible, But so here, you know, this law

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fair is just bubbling up and it's almost like it

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really forced. And this is thing about Donald Trump. He's

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such a catalyst for exposure. He's exposing the corruption on

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both sides. To your point, I mean, they just can't

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help themselves now. And guess what. The closet door is

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wide open. Everybody's looking in and saying, well, this is unacceptable.

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Yeah, there needs to be more exposure. But I think

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his second term is off to a much better start

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than his first term. And I think Tulci Gabbard has

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done an amazing job revealing what she's revealed. I expect

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to see a lot more coming out of her office. Yeah,

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I think cash battel. Like I said, the indictment of

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call Me, I think is really good. I'm so proud

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of Lindsay Halligan. I consider her friend. She's in the book.

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She was with me at mar A Lago. So I

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disclose our conversations there, but yeah, I.

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Want to talk. I want to talk about that day

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at mar A Lago and how you were brought into

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and finding yourself there on the property on that day

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that you know makes you an eyewitness and an air

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witness to all the events, and you know it's almost

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it's almost a criminal activity by the FBI, isn't it?

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Sure? Yes, I think it is. I think I allude

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to that in the book as well. I thought everything

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was illegal. Everything that they were doing was illegal. They

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never had probable cause to read mar A Lago. In

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order to get the warrant, they had to lie to

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a judge that had, I think it was six weeks

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prior had recused himself from the Trumpy Clinton case because

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he said he was incapable of being impartial. And then

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they take an affidavit to the judge who has already

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said he's incapable of being impartial, and they lie to him.

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They don't disclose the fact that President Trump himself, not

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just his legal team, but President Trump himself was incredibly transparent.

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He said, to their faces, you can see whatever you want.

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You know, you want me to show you around mar

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A Lago. What do you want? They did not disclose

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any of that in the affidavit, and the affid the

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affidavit itself was very misleading into basically trying to say

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that President Trump was obstructing justice. I mean, ultimately, that's

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what they charged him with. It was never true. They

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never had any evidence for it, but that's they had

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to charge him with that because they couldn't bring the

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case they wanted to bring in Washington, d C. The

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original case was in Washington, d C. The grand jury

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Sepina came out of Washington, d C. They were trying

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to create this Hillary Clinton email scandal, espionage type case

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about Donald Trump, and they thought, for sure, if we

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can just read mar A Lago, if we can just

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get into his storage clouset, we'll be able to show something,

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and they couldn't. They never got the evidence, so they

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couldn't get a conviction. I'm sorry they couldn't get an

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indictment in Washington d C. So they had to move

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to Florida.

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Christian, did you ever figure out what it was that

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they were really looking for? I mean, yes, trip up

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Donald Trump, you know, get in the way, invalidate another

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potential presidential run. It seems like there's more to the story.

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They were looking for something.

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Seems to me I think their Trump derangement syndrome got

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the better of them. Yes, I think they they were

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looking for a unicorn. You know, they wanted to show

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that Donald Trump is selling secrets to the Russians, or

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you know, whatever crazy idea they had in their mind.

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But it was never true. There was never anything there,

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which is why they didn't recover anything to support that

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crazy theory because it wasn't true. So I've heard theories

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about them trying to recover crossfire hurricane documents, which is

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totally possible.

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A part of me kind of finds it hard to

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believe that they actually thought there would be crossfire hurricane

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documents there, because we had shown them, we had shown

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them the storage room. We had shown them where the

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documents were, and it's like a storage closet, you know

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what I mean, like it, you know, everyone's hall closet.

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When you walk in the door and like throw your

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coats in there. That's basically what it was. I mean

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a billionaire's version of that. But that's you know, this

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was not like a highly classified, you know, super secret

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storage facility. It was it was secure, I mean had

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multiple locks on it. It was in a very private

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area of mar Lago. But it was just a storage

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you know.

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Well, even in the previous visit the FBI, the thing

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they told them and said, can you put another lock

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on the door?

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Yeah, and there already were locks. It was guarded by

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Secret Service, it was guarded by private security. It's on

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a private residence. It was much more secure than any

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of the other locations that prior presidents had stored their documents,

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So there was no reason for the FBI to be

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concerned about access to the documents. The documents were secured.

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So you're telling us it was much more secure than

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Joe Biden's garat.

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It was more secure than Joe Biden's garage or the

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Pen Biden Center, you know, the Chinese the CCP paid

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for center. I think George Bush had his in a

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strip mall somewhere. Yeah. No, Donald Trump's documents were much

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much more secure than any of the prior presidents.

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So right, so here it is. I mean, you're you're

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about your business and you get a phone call, he says, Christina,

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we need you to be on location at mar Lago.

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Do you got some time on your hands? Can you

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go there and observe the FBI. There's going to be

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this nondescript kind of meeting, you know, everything but coffee

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and high tea. But your gut tells you if the

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FBI is involved, there's more to this, right.

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Well, clearly, I mean you know I was flying blind,

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as you said, you know, I wasn't part of prior conversations.

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But obviously, if the FBI is involved, they're clearly trying

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to set Donald Trump up for something. I mean, you know,

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why would the FBI be involved if they weren't trying

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to manufacture criminal activity, which ultimately is obviously what they did.

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So yeah, so I was very cautious about participating. Of

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course I did participate because you know, what are you

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going to do? You can't ignore the FBI? Right, So

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I did participate, and ultimately, ultimately everything played out the

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way it should have. From our perspective, Donald Trump never

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should have been indicted. Walt not Ow and Carlos del

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Lavera never should have been indicted. None of the indict

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none of the criminal proceedings ever should have happened, and

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they never should have destroyed their lives and up into

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their lives the way that they did. But they were

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released from the incitement as they should have been. And

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where things stand today, at least as the Jack Smith

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cases go, is correct. Nobody was actually prosecuted other than

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Donald Trump.

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But meanwhile, you know, like you say, their lives and

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some people are not necessarily in a posient. I mean,

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you've gone through a strain and it's not cheap when

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you're getting sued and having to go through all you're

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going through. Yes, and we have people who are not

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familiar with the legal system and they're being put through

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the drain and everything and drug inside and out. I mean,

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I pray that these people you know here, they're there.

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They're in service to the president. I mean, they're just

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there to you know, help around the house and that

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sort of thing. And I'm sure President Trump has made

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them all as much as he can. But this has

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got to just been you know, just and I think

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the psychological impact of it has just got to have

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been tremendous.

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Oh, it's HORRIFICCT It's absolutely horrific. Like I said, I'm

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still going through it now. I'm still racking up monthly

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legal bills because the State of Arizona still wants to

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say that, you know, I tried to overthrow the United

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States government or something stupid like that.

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Here, you are a former marine taking an oath that

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lasts forever till the day we die that we will

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protect our government and the Constitution against all enemies, foreign

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and domestic, and you are you are doing everything to

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violate that oath.

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Yes, right, right, right, that's what they're trying to say.

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They don't have any evidence for it, which is why

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the indictment has been thrown out. But they haven't closed

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the case. So I'm still still working to get that

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case closed. I'm hoping that that will come soon, but

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still open for now. They still are, you know, defaming

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me by operating around saying I'm a criminal. You know

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the dominion laws. It was pretty devastating to me because

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you had all of these pundits on TV saying I

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was a liar. Ultimately, that case was also dismissed, but

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they did a lot of damage. I mean, these this

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law fair is incredibly damaging.

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Well yeah, I mean even to this day. I mean

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you've got Senators and congressmen, you know, at hearings just saying,

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you know, making statements like and challenging anybody who had

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any questions about the twenty twenty election and being very

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mean spirited about it. And the way in which they

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do it, it's quite obvious that either they themselves are

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not sure and believe it. I mean, you've got, according

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to the polling, over sixty percent of America and I

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think it's probably about sixty six sixty seven percent of

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America does not believe in the twenty twenty election to

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this day. So it's like, who are you trying to

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convince me or the you know, three quarters or two

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thirds of the America voter.

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Yeah, well, I think they're counting on destroying the integrity

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of our election. I mean, that's the way they keep

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power is by rigging the election, not by trying to

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win over hearts and minds. They're not trying to win

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anybody over because they're pushing everybody away. They're so far

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left that they're pushing everybody to the right. So I

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don't think they have any real desire to win anyone over.

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I think they just want to rig the elections. They

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want no voter ID, they want all mail in ballots.

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You know, they want to make it as difficult as

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possible to have a clean, fair election so that they

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can just steal the elections to stay in power. That's

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what they want.

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Yeah, without a doubt. It's all about power and control,

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is what Lindsey Graham stated, as you'll recall and you

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know that's what it is for them. Christina, do you

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have a sense that I mean, yes, it became real

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obvious that they stole the election in twenty twenty or

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they they're up to the Shenanigans, whether it was smartmatic

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or dominion and more and more. You know, we see

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a lot of smoke. We're still looking for, you know,

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some real fire, and I think we've we've touched on

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some fire. But the courts don't want to acknowledge it.

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People are reticent to acknowledge it, like you say, the

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establishment and that. But you have the sense that this

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is something that's been going on for a long time

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and it's just one of those things that like in

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every trajectory. It starts out where it's a little bit bad,

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00:24:16.079 --> 00:24:19.759
and each each election cycle it just gets worse and worse.

467
00:24:20.359 --> 00:24:24.599
Yeah, yes, I do think COVID was especially bad. I

468
00:24:24.680 --> 00:24:27.119
don't Twenty twenty four wasn't as bad as twenty twenty

469
00:24:27.279 --> 00:24:30.200
was because we didn't have COVID, right.

470
00:24:30.680 --> 00:24:32.160
But it didn't stop them from trying.

471
00:24:32.519 --> 00:24:36.680
No, that's true, that's true. So yeah, we still have

472
00:24:36.720 --> 00:24:39.160
a long way to go about cleaning things out, you know,

473
00:24:39.480 --> 00:24:42.319
two steps forward, one step back. We're working on it.

474
00:24:42.359 --> 00:24:45.559
I think we can get there, but nothing is for sure, right,

475
00:24:45.599 --> 00:24:48.599
you know, that's why every election cycle matters. Volunteer, become

476
00:24:48.640 --> 00:24:51.400
a poll watcher or poll observer, whatever, People need to

477
00:24:51.400 --> 00:24:54.000
be involved in the process. The more people we have

478
00:24:54.400 --> 00:24:57.200
from each community involved, the better it's going to be.

479
00:24:57.839 --> 00:24:59.960
I think I think we'll get to a point where

480
00:25:00.799 --> 00:25:03.240
it's more secure than it is today. I don't think

481
00:25:03.240 --> 00:25:05.279
it's ever going to be one hundred percent secure because

482
00:25:05.559 --> 00:25:08.839
every year someone's trying to cheat, right.

483
00:25:08.400 --> 00:25:12.559
Exactly, well, systemically, it's it's a problem. And this is

484
00:25:12.559 --> 00:25:14.960
why Trump and many of us believe get back to

485
00:25:15.000 --> 00:25:17.000
one day of voting. Everybody takes the day off, just

486
00:25:17.039 --> 00:25:20.839
like we used to one day of voting. It's you know,

487
00:25:21.319 --> 00:25:24.440
mail in ballots. Only if you happen to be in

488
00:25:24.440 --> 00:25:27.240
a military or there's some extreme emergency or something some

489
00:25:27.359 --> 00:25:28.839
way that you can't make it to the ball in

490
00:25:28.880 --> 00:25:31.759
that day, that's it. No mail in voting, and your

491
00:25:31.839 --> 00:25:34.079
vote counts on that day. You're not going to have

492
00:25:34.400 --> 00:25:37.400
thirty days in which your vote can count because the

493
00:25:37.519 --> 00:25:41.079
more time that you give it opens up that opportunity

494
00:25:41.079 --> 00:25:44.559
of cheating. So you've got to eliminate all those avenues.

495
00:25:44.599 --> 00:25:49.279
Potentially they could promote, you know, promote a breakdown in

496
00:25:49.319 --> 00:25:50.759
the integrity of the vote.

497
00:25:50.839 --> 00:25:54.160
Right, Yeah, that's exactly right. I think one day voting,

498
00:25:54.359 --> 00:25:58.559
same day voting very rare exceptions for mail in ballots.

499
00:25:59.720 --> 00:26:01.400
I think we need to get back to the precinct

500
00:26:01.440 --> 00:26:05.119
level rather than having these big voting centers like the

501
00:26:05.160 --> 00:26:08.720
State Farm Arena and oh yeah yeah, these big county

502
00:26:09.240 --> 00:26:11.319
county wide voting centers. I think the ballots need to

503
00:26:11.319 --> 00:26:16.119
be counted at the precinct level. That makes it significantly

504
00:26:16.160 --> 00:26:20.200
harder to cheat. But yeah, no, I agree. I think

505
00:26:20.240 --> 00:26:23.240
we can get there. We got to clean some things

506
00:26:23.240 --> 00:26:25.000
out first, but but we can get there.

507
00:26:25.200 --> 00:26:26.880
Well, I think we can get there with Donald Trump,

508
00:26:27.039 --> 00:26:29.640
and we can get there with another. This is why

509
00:26:29.720 --> 00:26:31.839
we need When when the election was going on in

510
00:26:31.880 --> 00:26:34.079
twenty twenty four, I said four plus eight, people are

511
00:26:34.079 --> 00:26:36.160
saying four years. No, I go four plus eight. You

512
00:26:36.240 --> 00:26:38.319
got to think in terms of twelve years, the Democrats

513
00:26:39.000 --> 00:26:43.160
combined between Obama and Biden had twelve years and then

514
00:26:43.240 --> 00:26:46.440
some You could probably even count pentage of the Donald

515
00:26:46.480 --> 00:26:49.400
Trump first term because of all the shenanigans they were

516
00:26:49.440 --> 00:26:50.240
doing in the background.

517
00:26:50.319 --> 00:26:53.119
Right, Yeah, yeah, no, I think that I think that's right.

518
00:26:53.160 --> 00:26:56.440
I think Donald Trump is going to get us off

519
00:26:56.480 --> 00:27:00.240
to a really good start with cleaning this up. I

520
00:27:00.279 --> 00:27:03.640
think it's going to be incumbent upon the next incoming

521
00:27:03.680 --> 00:27:07.759
president to finish that job. But I have no doubt

522
00:27:07.799 --> 00:27:09.400
that Donald Trump is going to do everything you can

523
00:27:09.599 --> 00:27:11.599
and get us pretty far down the road about cleaning

524
00:27:11.640 --> 00:27:13.559
all of this up. But it definitely will be a

525
00:27:13.640 --> 00:27:14.640
multicycle thing.

526
00:27:15.039 --> 00:27:17.359
But it's clear we need somebody like a Donald Trump

527
00:27:17.440 --> 00:27:21.680
who's got a spine and is committed to the American

528
00:27:21.720 --> 00:27:27.559
people and the American idea. Now, getting back to mar Lago,

529
00:27:28.000 --> 00:27:31.279
that day, you're there and they didn't even you offered, Hey,

530
00:27:31.279 --> 00:27:34.039
i'll help you I got keys, I'll help you out here.

531
00:27:34.400 --> 00:27:37.000
They wanted nothing with it. They kept you outside in

532
00:27:37.039 --> 00:27:37.720
the heat, right.

533
00:27:38.039 --> 00:27:39.920
Yeah. They wouldn't let me observe what they were doing.

534
00:27:39.960 --> 00:27:42.680
So mar Lago, you know, it's in a state, and

535
00:27:42.720 --> 00:27:45.519
they were looking in a couple of different areas around

536
00:27:45.519 --> 00:27:48.920
the estate. I could see what they were doing between

537
00:27:49.160 --> 00:27:51.359
the rooms that they were looking at, because they would

538
00:27:51.400 --> 00:27:54.119
have to go outside, you know, on the sidewalk to

539
00:27:54.279 --> 00:27:56.599
go in between the rooms, so I can see that.

540
00:27:56.640 --> 00:27:58.319
I can see what they were carrying in and out

541
00:27:58.359 --> 00:28:00.799
of the rooms. I just couldn't see what they were

542
00:28:00.839 --> 00:28:02.720
doing in the rooms. They would not allow me to

543
00:28:02.759 --> 00:28:04.960
accompany them when they were actually doing the search, which

544
00:28:05.000 --> 00:28:08.480
I thought was very weird. You know, I'm not they're

545
00:28:08.519 --> 00:28:10.720
not required to allow me to hover over them for

546
00:28:10.759 --> 00:28:13.440
the entire time, but they wouldn't let me see anything,

547
00:28:14.240 --> 00:28:18.079
which to me that struck me as very suspicious.

548
00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:20.319
And of course they didn't want you there when they

549
00:28:20.440 --> 00:28:24.720
arranged you know, the mess, the picture of documents strewn

550
00:28:24.799 --> 00:28:27.759
on the floor, like as if that was Donald's personality.

551
00:28:27.839 --> 00:28:30.880
Right, Yeah, Well I saw them carry those cover sheets

552
00:28:30.920 --> 00:28:34.440
into the office. Yes, so they those were cover sheets

553
00:28:34.480 --> 00:28:36.799
that they brought with them, at least from my perspective.

554
00:28:36.880 --> 00:28:39.720
They later argued in court that they found them on site.

555
00:28:39.799 --> 00:28:42.279
I do not believe they did. I think because I

556
00:28:42.319 --> 00:28:43.920
saw them. I saw them carry them in in a

557
00:28:43.920 --> 00:28:46.839
clear rubber mayd bin. They carried them into the office,

558
00:28:46.880 --> 00:28:48.720
which actually is not how you're supposed to carry the

559
00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:52.680
cover sheets, but it's what they were doing. So yeah,

560
00:28:52.720 --> 00:28:54.839
I mean I basically I wasn't allowed to be in

561
00:28:54.839 --> 00:28:56.960
the room when they did it, but I basically watched

562
00:28:56.960 --> 00:28:58.039
them stage that photo.

563
00:28:58.359 --> 00:29:01.079
Do you even know, Christina, if every one of those

564
00:29:01.200 --> 00:29:06.880
officials were authorized to handle top secret information, I don't know.

565
00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:09.440
I imagine they probably were. I would be surprised if

566
00:29:09.440 --> 00:29:12.319
they weren't having a security clearance. And don't forget, it

567
00:29:12.359 --> 00:29:14.880
was being run out of Washington, d C. And so

568
00:29:15.559 --> 00:29:18.680
most of everybody who works in the federal government in Washington,

569
00:29:18.720 --> 00:29:21.680
d C. Has has some level of a clearance. So

570
00:29:21.799 --> 00:29:24.119
I suspect that they all did. But but I don't know.

571
00:29:24.480 --> 00:29:27.039
Yeah, Well, it just seems that as fast and loose

572
00:29:27.359 --> 00:29:31.279
as they were operating. And that's the thing about people

573
00:29:31.839 --> 00:29:33.759
that lie. It is like my dad used to say,

574
00:29:33.799 --> 00:29:35.839
if you lie, you better have a great memory and

575
00:29:35.880 --> 00:29:37.920
you better, you better be real good at dotting your

576
00:29:37.920 --> 00:29:40.319
eyes and crossing your t's. And this is what we're

577
00:29:40.319 --> 00:29:43.200
finding out right now with the Obama administration, even the

578
00:29:43.240 --> 00:29:47.000
Biden administration, they were so deceptive that they can't possibly come.

579
00:29:47.039 --> 00:29:49.279
They don't even remember all the lies they you know,

580
00:29:49.279 --> 00:29:51.000
and all of a sudden you find burn bags that

581
00:29:51.279 --> 00:29:53.559
are just lying around in a closet somewhere. You talk

582
00:29:53.559 --> 00:29:56.000
about Joe Biden's garage. I mean, are you kidding me?

583
00:29:56.519 --> 00:30:00.480
Yeah? No, I mean I don't. I don't think that

584
00:30:00.559 --> 00:30:03.039
they are going to be able to keep their story straight.

585
00:30:03.519 --> 00:30:06.759
I'm just hopeful, and I'm so grateful for you know,

586
00:30:06.839 --> 00:30:10.000
Cash Betel and Tolsi Gabbard that are actually doing the

587
00:30:10.039 --> 00:30:14.480
investigation to pull this out. I'm eager to see what

588
00:30:14.640 --> 00:30:16.519
they come up with. Obviously, we need a lot more

589
00:30:16.559 --> 00:30:19.640
exposure than what we currently have. I'm hopeful that they

590
00:30:19.680 --> 00:30:22.599
are they are doing that. But I mean, we gotta,

591
00:30:23.160 --> 00:30:26.519
we gotta gut, gut this information because there's been so

592
00:30:26.720 --> 00:30:29.079
much that has been covered up. It's I mean, it's

593
00:30:29.160 --> 00:30:32.720
essential to our country to clean out the rot right.

594
00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:35.640
And I think that the tough hill to climb here,

595
00:30:35.680 --> 00:30:38.880
Christine is that people can suspect that it's corrupt and

596
00:30:38.920 --> 00:30:41.559
it's a problem. I just don't know how bad it is.

597
00:30:41.599 --> 00:30:44.359
And then when you begin to realize, you know, the

598
00:30:44.440 --> 00:30:48.720
deception took place with crossfire, hurricane, and you know how

599
00:30:48.759 --> 00:30:51.160
this stuff led to the Oval Office, and many of

600
00:30:51.240 --> 00:30:53.839
us who did any kind of research in studying on

601
00:30:53.920 --> 00:30:56.680
this knew that knew that Barack and we still maintained

602
00:30:56.720 --> 00:31:00.279
Barack Obama had to orchestrate this. I mean, he's he's

603
00:31:00.359 --> 00:31:02.279
of course covered because he was the president of the

604
00:31:02.319 --> 00:31:03.319
United States, and.

605
00:31:04.160 --> 00:31:07.279
I wouldn't be that generous. You know, we have a

606
00:31:07.319 --> 00:31:10.359
Supreme Court ruling on presidential immunity. It is not absolute.

607
00:31:10.440 --> 00:31:13.480
That's why Donald Trump's case wasn't dismissed because it's not

608
00:31:13.559 --> 00:31:14.559
absolute immunity.

609
00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:15.200
Right.

610
00:31:16.319 --> 00:31:19.079
I don't know. I think Barack Obama is fair game.

611
00:31:19.160 --> 00:31:20.880
I you know, I haven't seen all of the evidence.

612
00:31:20.920 --> 00:31:22.759
I don't know what they're pulling out. And I firmly

613
00:31:22.799 --> 00:31:25.720
believe in innocent until proven guilty. So I don't want to, yeah,

614
00:31:26.039 --> 00:31:27.279
say anything about.

615
00:31:27.759 --> 00:31:29.599
This looks like a duck and talks like a duck.

616
00:31:29.640 --> 00:31:32.480
I mean, you look at you know, Hillary Clinton, John

617
00:31:32.559 --> 00:31:35.880
Kerry James, comey all these people out of his administration.

618
00:31:36.279 --> 00:31:39.160
I mean, this seems like a playbook that sounds familiar

619
00:31:39.480 --> 00:31:42.920
with what what Barack Obama did with Lois Lerner and

620
00:31:42.960 --> 00:31:46.359
the Tea Party, you know, wink wink, And because he

621
00:31:46.440 --> 00:31:48.640
knew the Tea Party was causing a lot of disruption

622
00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:51.319
and he was going to have problems with his re

623
00:31:51.400 --> 00:31:52.279
election campaign.

624
00:31:52.599 --> 00:31:55.000
Well yeah, and you know who ran the prosecutions from

625
00:31:55.039 --> 00:31:57.279
DJ for the Tea Party for all of that was

626
00:31:57.279 --> 00:31:58.720
through the irs. You know who ran that?

627
00:31:59.160 --> 00:32:03.720
Who Smith? Oh? Yes, yes, that's right, I did know that. Yeah.

628
00:32:03.839 --> 00:32:07.000
So Jack Smith did that, and then they appointed him

629
00:32:07.039 --> 00:32:09.480
to do the same thing for Donald Trump after he

630
00:32:09.559 --> 00:32:13.559
had also done the same thing for Bob McDonald when

631
00:32:13.559 --> 00:32:16.240
he was running for governor of Virginia, which that case

632
00:32:16.359 --> 00:32:19.279
was overturned unanimously at the United States Supreme Court. So

633
00:32:19.400 --> 00:32:21.960
this is I mean, this is Jack Smith's playbook. That's

634
00:32:21.960 --> 00:32:24.480
why they brought him in to do exactly exactly what

635
00:32:24.519 --> 00:32:25.680
you're describing.

636
00:32:25.599 --> 00:32:29.039
Right, I mean, I mean you talk about a lot

637
00:32:29.079 --> 00:32:31.359
of good lawyers, you know, I think a John Eastman,

638
00:32:31.640 --> 00:32:36.880
Sidney Powell, yourself, others that have been kneecapped by the

639
00:32:36.960 --> 00:32:41.559
Democratic Party's Justice Department and what they've done to all

640
00:32:41.599 --> 00:32:44.519
of you. And you you look at Jack Smith and

641
00:32:44.680 --> 00:32:47.119
Mark Elias and some of these others, you go, what

642
00:32:47.160 --> 00:32:49.039
are these guys doing with a law license?

643
00:32:50.000 --> 00:32:52.039
Yes, I think that all the time. I had to

644
00:32:52.039 --> 00:32:54.440
fight for my law license. I was reported to the bar.

645
00:32:54.519 --> 00:32:56.400
There were a dozen people that reported me to the bar,

646
00:32:56.440 --> 00:32:59.920
and I had to fight my license. I thankfully was successful.

647
00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:02.880
I did get to keep my license. They found no

648
00:33:02.960 --> 00:33:06.640
misconduct on my part, which is amazing. I'm so grateful

649
00:33:06.680 --> 00:33:06.880
for that.

650
00:33:07.559 --> 00:33:10.599
You're a marine, Marines, we don't miss conduct.

651
00:33:10.799 --> 00:33:14.680
No, but neither did John Eastman or Rudy Jeliani. And

652
00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:18.440
you know, my license is in California. At least the

653
00:33:18.440 --> 00:33:19.960
one that I was fighting for was in California. And

654
00:33:19.960 --> 00:33:23.480
I thought for sure they're gonna disbar me just because

655
00:33:23.519 --> 00:33:26.559
I'm you know, with Donald Trump. They didn't. I was

656
00:33:26.599 --> 00:33:29.640
grateful for. But but that that is the concern is

657
00:33:29.680 --> 00:33:33.599
they're they're taking out the conservative attorneys who are willing

658
00:33:33.640 --> 00:33:37.079
to fight, so eventually no one's going to be willing

659
00:33:37.119 --> 00:33:39.440
to fight, and we're not going to have any resistance

660
00:33:39.519 --> 00:33:43.119
to the tyrannical takeover that we're seeing. That's their goal.

661
00:33:43.599 --> 00:33:46.119
Well, in your book to find inside to Marlago raid

662
00:33:46.200 --> 00:33:49.640
and the lefts ongoing law fair. Uh, you relate your

663
00:33:49.720 --> 00:33:53.960
meeting with with Donald Trump to tell him saying, hey,

664
00:33:53.960 --> 00:33:55.559
this is what I'm you know, I kind of want

665
00:33:55.559 --> 00:33:58.440
your blessing on this to make sure it's okay, and

666
00:33:58.880 --> 00:34:00.559
tell us about that meeting in the Oval.

667
00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:03.400
Yeah. So I needed his permission to publish the book

668
00:34:03.440 --> 00:34:05.759
because all the information that I have as a turning

669
00:34:05.759 --> 00:34:07.440
plant privilege because I was on his legal team at

670
00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:09.199
the time. So he had to give me permission to

671
00:34:09.199 --> 00:34:11.880
publish it. And thankfully he did, and he also did

672
00:34:11.880 --> 00:34:14.920
the forward for it, which I'm really excited about. But yeah,

673
00:34:14.920 --> 00:34:16.800
I took the manuscript to him and said, hey, I

674
00:34:16.800 --> 00:34:20.360
want to basically tell everybody everything, tell him what actually happened.

675
00:34:20.840 --> 00:34:23.559
And I've got text messages and emails and all my

676
00:34:23.679 --> 00:34:25.920
dialogue and all the back and forth with the Department

677
00:34:25.960 --> 00:34:29.000
of Justice. And I showed him what I had and

678
00:34:29.039 --> 00:34:33.360
he didn't. He didn't delay at all. He said, yeah, great,

679
00:34:33.360 --> 00:34:34.840
I want to help you get it out. You don't

680
00:34:34.880 --> 00:34:38.000
just get it out. So he was very transparent through

681
00:34:38.039 --> 00:34:40.000
the whole thing. He wrote the forward to try to help,

682
00:34:40.119 --> 00:34:41.960
you know, raise awareness to let people know, like, hey,

683
00:34:42.000 --> 00:34:44.079
this is actually what happened, right.

684
00:34:44.599 --> 00:34:47.800
So, yeah, did he take exception to anything.

685
00:34:47.639 --> 00:34:49.079
No, not a single thing. He did not ask me

686
00:34:49.119 --> 00:34:50.000
to change a single thing.

687
00:34:51.199 --> 00:34:55.880
You know. It's amazing and and I appreciate your wiring.

688
00:34:56.119 --> 00:34:59.920
I mean, you are a copious note taker. I really

689
00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:02.639
this has been your life, right, I mean you were

690
00:35:02.639 --> 00:35:04.199
a little kid, you were taking notes. I mean you

691
00:35:04.239 --> 00:35:09.039
were taking notes for Santa Claus even, right, Yeah.

692
00:35:09.079 --> 00:35:11.360
But I mean I kept on and I knew obviously

693
00:35:11.519 --> 00:35:13.280
as soon as I found out the FBI and DJ

694
00:35:13.360 --> 00:35:14.760
were involved, as like, okay, this is going to go

695
00:35:14.800 --> 00:35:17.119
to litigation at some point, so I need to record

696
00:35:17.199 --> 00:35:20.280
everything that's happening to make sure that if you know,

697
00:35:20.599 --> 00:35:22.519
if I have a lawyer, which ultimately I did, my

698
00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:25.639
lawyer knows exactly what's going on. I just want a

699
00:35:25.679 --> 00:35:28.559
record of what's happening. So I I did. I took

700
00:35:28.840 --> 00:35:31.960
notes at like within days of every meeting, within days

701
00:35:31.960 --> 00:35:35.920
of the raid, within days of every single event that

702
00:35:35.960 --> 00:35:40.360
transpired throughout the process. I just documented everything, and I

703
00:35:40.400 --> 00:35:42.920
took pictures and you know, I just made a record

704
00:35:42.920 --> 00:35:46.039
of everything that happened. And so actually putting the book

705
00:35:46.039 --> 00:35:48.480
together was actually quite easy because I just took, you know,

706
00:35:48.559 --> 00:35:51.519
took everything I had. I was like, well, look at

707
00:35:51.519 --> 00:35:52.280
there's a book.

708
00:35:52.199 --> 00:35:56.679
So well that's that's uh, that's amazing. Uh. And and

709
00:35:56.719 --> 00:35:59.639
God bless you for you know, for being that way.

710
00:35:59.840 --> 00:36:03.360
And although I imagine for some people that want to

711
00:36:03.440 --> 00:36:05.320
run the edges and stuff like that, you're probably a

712
00:36:05.400 --> 00:36:09.199
bit of an annoyance, but you know, mostly but the

713
00:36:09.239 --> 00:36:12.199
deal is, see, this is the thing. You know. Unfortunately,

714
00:36:12.199 --> 00:36:14.440
our culture has gotten to the point where truth is

715
00:36:14.480 --> 00:36:18.079
no longer a defense, it's an offense. And so anytime

716
00:36:18.079 --> 00:36:19.800
you bring the truth, people are going to be offended.

717
00:36:19.880 --> 00:36:22.400
In fact that you know here recently with the murder

718
00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:25.280
of Charlie Kirk, he's out there promoting the truth and

719
00:36:25.519 --> 00:36:26.679
it costume his life.

720
00:36:26.960 --> 00:36:32.159
Yeah. Yeah, No, it's true. The truth, the truth of

721
00:36:32.199 --> 00:36:35.159
what you know, what defined is it is a true

722
00:36:35.360 --> 00:36:39.800
and correct relay of everything that I experienced and everything

723
00:36:39.800 --> 00:36:43.320
that I witnessed, everything I saw. Don't I don't think

724
00:36:43.320 --> 00:36:45.599
anybody's going to be able to refute it, really because

725
00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:48.000
like and I say this in a note in the beginning,

726
00:36:48.599 --> 00:36:53.920
it comes from emails, text messages, eyewitness accounts that are

727
00:36:54.079 --> 00:36:58.079
captured on CCTV footage on security camera footage, and my

728
00:36:58.400 --> 00:37:01.400
negotiations back and forth with the Department of Justice. So

729
00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:05.079
it's pretty it's pretty tight. I don't think I don't

730
00:37:05.079 --> 00:37:06.960
think anybody's going to be able to refute what I'm

731
00:37:06.960 --> 00:37:10.760
saying because it's all so well documented and recorded that

732
00:37:12.119 --> 00:37:15.239
and I testified under oath multiple times about all of this,

733
00:37:15.920 --> 00:37:19.880
right that, I just don't think anybody can say that

734
00:37:19.880 --> 00:37:21.199
what I'm saying isn't accurate.

735
00:37:21.519 --> 00:37:23.920
Well, And the thing is is that when you are,

736
00:37:24.480 --> 00:37:26.679
you know, sold out on the truth, you don't have

737
00:37:26.719 --> 00:37:28.440
to make up stories, you don't have to remember stuff,

738
00:37:28.679 --> 00:37:32.239
and your testimony is consistent, right, because it was inconsistent

739
00:37:32.280 --> 00:37:34.440
at any point, they would shred you to no end.

740
00:37:34.840 --> 00:37:38.239
Yep, No, that's very true. And I've testified under oath

741
00:37:38.559 --> 00:37:42.599
multiple times before the January sixth committee, before I was

742
00:37:42.760 --> 00:37:45.800
interviewed and interrogated by both the Department Justice and the FBI.

743
00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:48.000
I testified before the Grand Juria, I testified before the

744
00:37:48.000 --> 00:37:52.559
California State Bar all on this set of facts. Well,

745
00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:55.519
Congress was the January six stuff, but other than Congress,

746
00:37:55.599 --> 00:37:59.199
all my other testimonies are all related to Marlago case,

747
00:37:59.400 --> 00:38:02.280
and nothing was inconsistent.

748
00:38:02.039 --> 00:38:05.719
Right, Yeah, and the January sixth is a whole another deal.

749
00:38:05.760 --> 00:38:09.119
I feel all these citizens in what they've gone through,

750
00:38:09.360 --> 00:38:13.079
I mean, you know, compared to what BLM and Antifa

751
00:38:13.119 --> 00:38:16.239
had done to our country and here, you know, these

752
00:38:16.239 --> 00:38:20.719
people were in shock. They go there to exercise their

753
00:38:20.719 --> 00:38:26.000
constitutional right and they're invited into the into the capitol

754
00:38:26.079 --> 00:38:28.199
in many cases. And now we're finding out that there

755
00:38:28.239 --> 00:38:31.599
were over forty is all documented now, there's no question

756
00:38:31.639 --> 00:38:34.480
about it. They you know, thank God for cash Patel

757
00:38:34.920 --> 00:38:38.639
and Angino there are now revealing the truth of the

758
00:38:38.639 --> 00:38:42.280
fact that we had over three dozen FBI agents on

759
00:38:42.320 --> 00:38:43.039
the ground there.

760
00:38:43.320 --> 00:38:45.840
Seventy four two and seventy four.

761
00:38:45.719 --> 00:38:48.440
Now two hundred and seventy four, two hundred.

762
00:38:48.159 --> 00:38:50.840
And seventy four FBI did. And the part that's particularly

763
00:38:50.840 --> 00:38:55.440
discussing about that is they manufactured convictions of these people

764
00:38:55.480 --> 00:38:59.159
without disclosing that that's braty evidence, that is material information

765
00:38:59.239 --> 00:39:01.960
that is essential to the defense for the defendants to

766
00:39:02.000 --> 00:39:06.320
be able to mount an effective defense in their case.

767
00:39:06.559 --> 00:39:09.039
That's a violation of their constitutional right that they did

768
00:39:09.079 --> 00:39:13.039
not disclose that to the defense prior to their prosecutions.

769
00:39:13.239 --> 00:39:16.480
So everything about this reeks the Department of Justice, the

770
00:39:16.519 --> 00:39:21.480
FBI rigged these trials in order to frame these innocent

771
00:39:21.559 --> 00:39:26.400
Americans because it was for a political objective, and they failed.

772
00:39:26.519 --> 00:39:29.079
They still failed at it. So every single one of

773
00:39:29.119 --> 00:39:31.039
these defendants, I hope that they can be made whole.

774
00:39:31.679 --> 00:39:34.159
I don't know how you get back four years of

775
00:39:34.199 --> 00:39:36.920
your life. Some of them were incarcerated for years with

776
00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:38.920
no trial. I mean, you've got Jake Lang, he was

777
00:39:38.960 --> 00:39:42.480
incarcerated for severty years with no trial, right, I mean,

778
00:39:42.480 --> 00:39:44.599
it's just disgusting what they did to these people.

779
00:39:44.519 --> 00:39:46.360
It really is. And the thing is, and you've had

780
00:39:46.679 --> 00:39:50.920
I think at least two that had committed suicide from

781
00:39:50.920 --> 00:39:54.760
the pressure of it all in the strain, and yeah,

782
00:39:54.800 --> 00:39:56.760
I think it's you know, and if you look at

783
00:39:56.800 --> 00:40:00.559
some sort of you know, lawsuit, you know, the thing

784
00:40:00.599 --> 00:40:02.679
that discussed me is that the taxpayer is going to

785
00:40:02.760 --> 00:40:05.559
end up paying for it. I know, I know, I mean,

786
00:40:05.800 --> 00:40:07.840
you know, it's not it's not James Comy, it's not

787
00:40:08.519 --> 00:40:11.400
it's not Hillary, it's not Nancy Pelosi for all that

788
00:40:11.440 --> 00:40:14.400
they've done. And uh, and this is why you know,

789
00:40:14.400 --> 00:40:17.360
people are concerned, you know about Donald Trump and retribution. No,

790
00:40:17.519 --> 00:40:21.400
this is accountability, right, you know, you you have you've

791
00:40:21.400 --> 00:40:24.119
broken the law, and you have to pay the consequences.

792
00:40:24.159 --> 00:40:27.639
And one of the things I'd shared with another guess

793
00:40:27.639 --> 00:40:30.440
that I had is the thing about consequences. If it's

794
00:40:30.440 --> 00:40:34.880
not leveled on the individual that's responsible for the deed,

795
00:40:35.440 --> 00:40:38.920
then that consequence is shared. And in this case, it's

796
00:40:38.960 --> 00:40:41.480
going to be we the people sharing and carrying the

797
00:40:41.480 --> 00:40:45.480
burden of the consequence of the criminal activity of Nancy

798
00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:48.880
Pelosi and you know, the James Comy's and the Barack

799
00:40:48.960 --> 00:40:50.000
Obamas the world.

800
00:40:50.480 --> 00:40:53.639
Yeah. No, I think you're completely right to the extent

801
00:40:53.679 --> 00:40:58.159
that any fault of theirs is shouldered by the American people.

802
00:40:58.199 --> 00:41:00.960
That's just another offense against the American people that they're

803
00:41:01.000 --> 00:41:04.360
required to pay for. So, you know, whenever I have

804
00:41:04.400 --> 00:41:06.360
people ask me to say, well, you know, don't you

805
00:41:06.360 --> 00:41:09.239
think it's wrong for Donald Trump to politicize or weaponize

806
00:41:09.280 --> 00:41:11.719
the Department of Justice or the justice system. First of all,

807
00:41:11.719 --> 00:41:15.360
he wasn't the one that weaponized it. It was prior

808
00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:18.599
administrations and it wasn't just Biden. Obama did as well

809
00:41:18.639 --> 00:41:22.039
as you mentioned of the RAS cases. But Donald Trump

810
00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:24.719
isn't going after people because they went after him. He's

811
00:41:24.719 --> 00:41:27.039
going after people who came after us, and that's what

812
00:41:27.079 --> 00:41:30.559
he's doing. He is holding people accountable who targeted the

813
00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:32.880
American people unfairly. That's what this is.

814
00:41:33.199 --> 00:41:35.639
Well, because if you don't, they'll always be there.

815
00:41:35.880 --> 00:41:39.360
Yeah, they'll not only will they always be there the

816
00:41:39.400 --> 00:41:41.159
next time they get in power, they will make it

817
00:41:41.239 --> 00:41:43.880
so painful for us that we never get another chance

818
00:41:44.440 --> 00:41:47.760
at running our own country. They will completely steal everything

819
00:41:47.800 --> 00:41:48.360
from us.

820
00:41:48.679 --> 00:41:52.320
What you just said, I hope this is really landing

821
00:41:52.480 --> 00:41:55.559
on the minds and the brains of the American people.

822
00:41:56.039 --> 00:41:58.960
If we don't, then when it's their turn. I mean

823
00:41:59.000 --> 00:42:02.880
you talk about retro on steroids. I mean, it will

824
00:42:02.960 --> 00:42:04.920
really be out of control. And it was out of

825
00:42:04.960 --> 00:42:09.119
control during the Obama years and certainly under Biden and

826
00:42:09.199 --> 00:42:11.519
with Garland in that right.

827
00:42:11.960 --> 00:42:14.280
Yeah, I mean, look at what happened in twenty sixteen.

828
00:42:14.400 --> 00:42:17.039
You know, in twenty sixteen, all of President Trump's base

829
00:42:17.159 --> 00:42:19.519
was chanting lock her up, lock her up. They wanted

830
00:42:19.599 --> 00:42:22.880
Hillary Clinton in prison. And he got into office and said, no, no,

831
00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:24.199
I'm not gonna do that. I'm gonna let her heal.

832
00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:25.239
I'm gonna let the nation heal.

833
00:42:25.760 --> 00:42:28.559
Yes, and thank you, thank you very much. What does

834
00:42:28.639 --> 00:42:31.360
she do as a thank you, right.

835
00:42:31.199 --> 00:42:35.079
They unleash hell on him and anybody who supported him.

836
00:42:35.400 --> 00:42:37.320
So if we thought that was bad, if we thought

837
00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:40.039
the Biden years were bad, now that Donald Trump actually

838
00:42:40.199 --> 00:42:43.280
is taking action, if he doesn't complete what he started,

839
00:42:43.360 --> 00:42:47.960
if the American people don't support him and whoever's following

840
00:42:48.039 --> 00:42:51.280
him to complete what he started, when they come back,

841
00:42:51.320 --> 00:42:53.679
it will be so much worse than the Biden administration.

842
00:42:53.840 --> 00:42:56.280
It will be it will be unbearable. We won't ever

843
00:42:56.320 --> 00:42:57.119
get our country back.

844
00:42:57.679 --> 00:43:00.559
I mean, it is really sadly it's that it serious,

845
00:43:00.599 --> 00:43:04.239
But you know, life' lessons teach us that doesn't it.

846
00:43:04.800 --> 00:43:07.239
Yes, absolutely, I mean, and that's part of why I

847
00:43:07.239 --> 00:43:09.679
wrote Defiant. I mean, yes, there's a whole bunch of

848
00:43:09.719 --> 00:43:11.800
information about mar A Lago and there in the Department

849
00:43:11.840 --> 00:43:14.280
of Justice and the back and forth with Donald Trump's

850
00:43:14.320 --> 00:43:16.679
cases and all of that, But it is my story,

851
00:43:17.119 --> 00:43:19.920
and I say it in there, Yes it's my story.

852
00:43:19.920 --> 00:43:22.079
But if we don't fix this, it will be yours.

853
00:43:22.159 --> 00:43:26.039
And it's horrific. I had nine legal matters open in

854
00:43:26.280 --> 00:43:30.280
three years. I mean that's why, because I'm a staff

855
00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:34.039
attorney for the candidate of my choice, right exactly, Yeah,

856
00:43:34.280 --> 00:43:36.599
Why why are all these cases open against me? I mean,

857
00:43:36.719 --> 00:43:39.880
it's horrific what they're doing, and people need to be aware.

858
00:43:39.960 --> 00:43:42.800
So yes, I want everybody to get all the information

859
00:43:42.920 --> 00:43:45.039
and the dirty gossip about mar A Lago. But it's

860
00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:48.320
really important that people understand what they're doing to ordinary

861
00:43:48.599 --> 00:43:51.480
Americans because I may be on the front line, but

862
00:43:52.039 --> 00:43:54.760
they're coming for you. They're coming for everybody after me.

863
00:43:55.239 --> 00:43:57.880
Well, exactly, you and Donald Trump are in their way.

864
00:43:58.440 --> 00:44:02.039
You know, That's what it is. Your book, Defiant is

865
00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:04.719
your right as a bombshell, exposea the lengths the left

866
00:44:04.760 --> 00:44:07.440
will go to maintain power, and a call to action

867
00:44:07.559 --> 00:44:11.159
for Americans who refuse to let their country be lost

868
00:44:11.199 --> 00:44:15.000
to tyranny and Christina. I mean as I'm really, I mean,

869
00:44:15.039 --> 00:44:17.480
we were so close to losing this.

870
00:44:18.199 --> 00:44:20.800
We were. We're in a better position now, but we're

871
00:44:20.840 --> 00:44:24.599
still close. Like it's not it hasn't been decided. We're

872
00:44:24.639 --> 00:44:28.039
still in limbo. So I think the twenty twenty sixth

873
00:44:28.079 --> 00:44:30.800
election is very important. I think twenty twenty eight is

874
00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:33.519
very important, and I think what the Trump administration does

875
00:44:33.559 --> 00:44:37.360
between now and then is very very important. So we'll

876
00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:38.280
see how it plays out.

877
00:44:38.559 --> 00:44:42.079
Well, thank God for Scotus too, right, Yeah.

878
00:44:41.880 --> 00:44:44.239
And I think they're coming around. I think, you know,

879
00:44:44.280 --> 00:44:46.920
the amy Cony Barretts of the world. Initially we're trying

880
00:44:47.000 --> 00:44:48.840
to play both sides, but I think they're starting to

881
00:44:48.880 --> 00:44:52.599
realize we're going to lose our country if we allow this,

882
00:44:53.039 --> 00:44:56.800
you know, crazy takeover by the left. So yeah, scotos

883
00:44:56.519 --> 00:44:58.159
is hitting some big wins.

884
00:44:58.400 --> 00:45:00.519
Did you send your book to each one of the members?

885
00:45:00.920 --> 00:45:03.079
Oh, that's a good idea. I haven't, but I will.

886
00:45:03.599 --> 00:45:06.880
Yeah, I think they should. This is must read for

887
00:45:06.920 --> 00:45:11.400
them because what you have exposed here. I can only imagine,

888
00:45:11.599 --> 00:45:13.599
you know, even with all your notes, as you're going

889
00:45:13.639 --> 00:45:18.840
through and reviewing everything. I mean, talk about a catharsis.

890
00:45:19.320 --> 00:45:22.639
I think you had to just go through all kinds

891
00:45:22.679 --> 00:45:27.039
of evolutions as you're realizing just how bad this was.

892
00:45:27.400 --> 00:45:29.719
Yeah, and like I said, I'm still in it. And

893
00:45:29.760 --> 00:45:32.519
so I feel a lot better now because the court

894
00:45:32.559 --> 00:45:35.280
has thrown out my indictment, but they haven't closed the case,

895
00:45:35.840 --> 00:45:38.719
and that's a very vulnerable place to be. And so,

896
00:45:40.360 --> 00:45:42.440
you know, getting out of the dominion case was a

897
00:45:42.519 --> 00:45:45.599
huge relief to me. That brought a lot of relief,

898
00:45:46.480 --> 00:45:48.559
But I still need to get out of this criminal case,

899
00:45:48.599 --> 00:45:50.599
me and all of my co defendants.

900
00:45:50.360 --> 00:45:54.800
Right exactly. So, And the thing is about dominion. See,

901
00:45:54.840 --> 00:45:56.639
I think that there's a little bit of a cloud

902
00:45:56.679 --> 00:46:00.559
between dominion and smart matic right right, Yeah, I mean,

903
00:46:00.679 --> 00:46:03.000
and that that's yet to be determined. I think that

904
00:46:03.840 --> 00:46:08.079
maybe Fox got a little excited, and maybe they're part

905
00:46:08.119 --> 00:46:12.480
of the Republican establishment, and why they surrendered and offered

906
00:46:12.559 --> 00:46:15.679
up Tucker Carlson is a sacrifice and paid all that

907
00:46:15.760 --> 00:46:20.159
money a sacrificial lamb, right exactly. But but I think

908
00:46:20.199 --> 00:46:22.800
there's you know, there's always more to the story, isn't there.

909
00:46:23.039 --> 00:46:25.599
There's always more to the story. And I think there's

910
00:46:25.639 --> 00:46:28.800
a lot more coming out. Like I said, I think

911
00:46:29.119 --> 00:46:31.039
I think there's going to be some more information coming

912
00:46:31.079 --> 00:46:33.239
out from this administration, at least I hope. So we

913
00:46:33.719 --> 00:46:35.719
need to in order to clean this up, We need

914
00:46:35.760 --> 00:46:37.079
more to come out from the government.

915
00:46:37.320 --> 00:46:41.199
We got about three minutes left here, Christina. Next, what's next?

916
00:46:41.360 --> 00:46:42.320
The next objective?

917
00:46:42.960 --> 00:46:46.639
I think getting a few more indictments and actually forcing

918
00:46:46.679 --> 00:46:50.320
some of these folks to defend themselves for what appears

919
00:46:50.360 --> 00:46:54.119
to be crimes that they've committed. I think that's that

920
00:46:54.159 --> 00:46:56.159
goes a long way to show that people will be

921
00:46:56.199 --> 00:46:58.840
held accountable. We have to start putting these folks and

922
00:46:58.880 --> 00:47:00.440
I say it's on the left, but it's the right

923
00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:02.719
to I'm showing these people that they're going to be

924
00:47:02.760 --> 00:47:04.599
held accountable if you break the law, and it's not

925
00:47:04.920 --> 00:47:09.800
just one sided. And then some more exposure. Let's let's

926
00:47:09.960 --> 00:47:12.519
dig in more, more in the intel community, more in

927
00:47:12.559 --> 00:47:14.679
the FBI, and let's see what's really going on in there.

928
00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:17.960
Can we expedite this? I mean, because you know Trump's

929
00:47:18.199 --> 00:47:22.920
Trump's got a little over three years remaining. Yeah, you know,

930
00:47:22.960 --> 00:47:25.159
the clock is running, and the Democrats know how to

931
00:47:25.159 --> 00:47:26.360
play play the clock.

932
00:47:26.760 --> 00:47:30.199
They do well. That comes down to ham BONDI, cash

933
00:47:30.239 --> 00:47:32.719
Betel And at the moment, Lindsay Halligan, the US attorney

934
00:47:32.760 --> 00:47:37.079
in Virginia who's indicted, call me. Yeah. I mean that's

935
00:47:37.159 --> 00:47:39.119
part of the game, right, is playing the clock. So

936
00:47:39.519 --> 00:47:41.880
I am hopeful that they're on top of it and

937
00:47:41.920 --> 00:47:44.880
that they'll push this along as quickly as possible. It's

938
00:47:44.920 --> 00:47:47.320
up to call me. Whether he wants a speedy trial,

939
00:47:47.400 --> 00:47:49.320
you know, that's the right of a defendant to request

940
00:47:49.360 --> 00:47:50.960
a speedy trial, or if he wants to try to

941
00:47:51.000 --> 00:47:53.920
delay it, that'll be That'll be up to him. That's

942
00:47:53.920 --> 00:47:56.559
the right of the defendant, but I'm hopeful that DOJ

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is prepared either way.

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Well. Christina Bob inside Marlago raid and the Left's ongoing

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lawfair a minute left, Christina closing summary on this Yeah.

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Please check it out or we'll give you all the

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details of a help frame the picture for you of

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everything that happened and continues to happen in our government.

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You can pick it up at Amazon, Barnes, and Noble,

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wherever books are sold. You can visit my website at

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Christinabob dot com or follow me on social media at

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Christina Underscore Pop.

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Christina Bob, You're awesome. Thank you for your service to

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the country as a marine and as an attorney and

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fighting a good fight on behalf of we the people.

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Christina is the author of Defiant. She's an attorney in Washington,

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d C. With an emphasis in national security law. Thank

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you for being with us, Christina, take care, godspeed, Thank

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you so much. Bill, you got it our thanks to

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Christina Bob. Wow, what a story. Huh well, Ted, this

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is one that you need to get your hands on.

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This book and also this interview. Get it out to

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your friends and neighbors, because this really reveals the underbelly

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of what we're dealing with here in our country and

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why we must do the things in order to preserve

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our constitution and all our rights that go with it.

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Thank you for being with us. God bless you. May

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God bless you and keep you. May make His face

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shine upon you. May He be gracious unto you and

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give you peace. Take care