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Well, good afternoon, glad you could join us.
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You know, ever since Al Gore came out with the
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inconvenient truth or the convenient truth of a way inconvenient
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truth right, and got all this you know, lawed and
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praise and created a whole new industry, the climate industrial complex,
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it's like we've been deluged with anti science and which
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is kind of you know the theme of so much
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of our government.
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You know, who do we trust? What can we trust?
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And when it comes to climate, then you realize was
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you go and you pull back the curtain on these
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climate scientists and realize, you know, like the old saying,
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just follow the money and you realize that they're making
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statements because that's what they're paid to do. They've really
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sold themselves out at the detriment of we, the people
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here in America, and not only here in America but
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around the world. Anyway.
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Along the way, Gosh, Gregory Rightstone came into my orbit,
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and he and I have been in constant discussion over
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the years, I think probably like about fifteen years, it seems.
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And Gregory is a geologist and executive director of the
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CO two Coalition in Arlington, Virginia. Is best selling author
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of A Very Convenient Warming, How Modest Warming and more
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CO two Are Benefiting Humanity. He's also written other books,
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and we're going to talk about that as well. But
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right now I want to bring on Gregory Rightstone on
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the show. Gregory, great to have you with us. How
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are you?
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Oh good? Really really busy though, I got to tell you,
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and it's good. I'm not complaining. We're being we being
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the CO two Coalision or are deep in the midst
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of pushing back and being very successful about promoting the
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true science and the facts about climate change and the
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benefits of warming and more CO two and I couldn't
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be pumped it's our people, and our members are proud
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of what we're doing and thanks to people like you,
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Bill for helping us get our message out well.
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Gregory, everything about our show is about in the pursuit
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of truth, as you know, no matter where it leads.
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And this is why you and I came together, because
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you know, I realized early on the folk science that
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was butten was put upon us, you know, just like
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what we went through in COVID. And this has all
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been a culmination of this which whis you know, been injurious.
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It's just science. I mean, we need science to ask
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questions and be allowed to ask questions and not to
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be bought and sold and start presenting a bunch of
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propaganda that causes us to spend trillions of dollars. And
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then also, as if that's not enough, let's just assume
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a bunch of guilt and be liable for third world
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countries to help them get out of their climate prices.
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Right it is. And I'm just last week I gave
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a lecture to the Irish Science Climate Foundation and you
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pardon me, no one came on suddenly, but I gave
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a talk. The title was using scientific or science and
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the scientific method just to fight climate change disinformation by
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scientific societies, government institutions and the People Advisory Committee. And
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it was it was it really was an analysis of
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everything we're doing and fighting this particularly today is the
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is the last day to submit comments for the EPA
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Endangerment Finding, and we might want to just talk a
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little bit about what that is. Yeah, go ahead, yeah, yeah.
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So in two thousand and nine, the EPA under Obama
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UH set of regulation controlling emissions from vehicles like duty
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trucks of CO two emissions and they decided that and
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claimed that CO two carbon dioxide was harmful to human
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health and by that they could regulate it, and boy
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have they. And it's just it's called the endangerment finding
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because CO two is endangering American's health. Well it's nothing
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could be further from the truth. It's a huge benefit.
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But they didn't look at any of those, any of
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the positive aspects, and they looked at completely fabric caid
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made up climate crises linked to the day link to
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CO two. And so we've already filed one comment on Friday.
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It was based on a paper we've just revised by
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Wes Allen from Australia. Climate change in human health cataloging.
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Now health has been improved and significantly not declining. I'll
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be filing a second comment later today, and what we're
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going to do is in this we're pushing back against
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this notion of CO two driven calamities, crises, and harms
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to human health. So we've been busy doing that and
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we've got our senior legal advisor leading the legal analysis
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and what we've done too, what he's done is they
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were in twenty twenty four last year in June, there
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were two really important Supreme Court visions. The first one
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was the it overturned the what's called Chevron deference right,
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which is where if there's if it's to the court
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and they're reviewing whether a regulation could be appealed or
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or enacted, that they give deference to the regulatory agencies
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because those regulatory agencies, they say, are they should be
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the experts. They should, but they're not. And the regulatory
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agencies is given or given difference because they should have
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looked at everything, but they haven't. And they recognize that,
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and they removed that deference for the regulatory agencies. The second, uh.
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Supreme second, let me I mean positive for just second,
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I want I want the audience to catch that the
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fact that the Supreme Court ruled on that, to me,
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that's just a huge red flag saying, you know, here
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we've yielded under under the Chevron Act, We've yielded to
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these regulatory agencies, and now we're looking at the results
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and saying we're not getting the value that we anticipated
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from that.
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And they've overstepped, have they not? Yeah? Well, actually what
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they said was that the regulatory agencies did not look
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at all of the pertinent informations, They did not review
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the materials, and in some cases outright line to the courts,
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they presented false and misleading information, disinformation, misinformation. Uh. And
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it's been it's worth the American public the results. But
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right the day, actually the day before that ruling was
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another one called Ohio versus EPA. And then if they
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they looked at what we call the State Farm Defense,
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and then that the Supreme Court said that regulatory agencies
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have to look at all of the data anything that's
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raised when when they when regulatory agencies like EPA or
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Department of Transportation, Department of Energy, whenever they propose regulation,
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they propose it. And then there's a period of a
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couple of months, maybe six weeks, where people can comment
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on it. And this ruling in the State Farm they
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said that these regulatory agencies need to consider all pertinent data.
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Any of the comments that have that are made with relevant,
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significant information or a significant line of thought, the agency
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needs to consider that. Well, they never did. They only
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looked at any information that helped their case and never
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presented or looked at things that were posed to them.
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And here they say, you have to and this is
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really important for us in our comments again, particularly the
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comment I'm filing today on this endangerment finding uses that
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State Farm defense where we're going through and we're saying,
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if you imposed a law or a regulation in this
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case and didn't consider everything, it's on its face unlawful.
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It needs to be it needs to be repealed. And
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so that's that's the gist of our our filing that
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we'll make later today.
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And the thing that's so frustrating about that great ground strying.
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You know, I just again, I'm I'm listening as our
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audience is listening on this, and they're probably getting frustrated
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and saying, wait a minute, you know we're being sold
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you know, a bucket of goods here. And meanwhile, by
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the time this goes through the process, you know, we're
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four or five years down the road. We've been told
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all these lies. How do you remedy you know, all
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the lies and the cost to the American tax payer
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where you've got regulators doing things that now you know,
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five years later are determined to be unlawful.
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Yeah, and think about this. Let mean, let's let's think
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about all of your listeners or viewers right now. You're
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probably sitting in the comfort of your own home, maybe
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your office, when you're when you're looking at this, look
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around you. Every appliance, every everything using electricity or hot
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water has now been have significant regulations imposed on it
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because of this endangerment finding and other rules like it.
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And they look above you. Your ceiling fan above you
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has been regulated. Last year, your dishwasher, your washing machine,
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you're dryer, you name, Incandescent light bulbs were banned. And
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so what the government's done is say, well, we're going
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to impose these regulations, let's say, on dishwashers and dishwashers today.
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When you buy a modern dishwasher today, you can't buy
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a really good dishwasher by that, I mean one that
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can get the washer dishes washed in thirty minutes. Today's
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dishwashers go anywhere from two and a half to four
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hours per cycle. And it's because they're very low energy
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and it's very low water. It just takes a long time.
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And what we find too these because it's low energy,
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they're using smaller motors that burn out. They've asked these
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small motors of being asked to do more, so they
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burn out and need replaced more often. And so what
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they say is, this is a high efficiency dishwasher and
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it's best for you because you're gonna you're gonna save money,
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use less electricity, less water. Well bill their different definition,
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the government's definition of efficient efficient dishwashers a lot different
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than my wife's. My wife her definition of an efficient
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dishwasher is one that would get it done in thirty
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or forty minutes or less and the dishes are clean.
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And you can't buy those today. The government's saying you're
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only allowed to buy what we have approved in which
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is government a fruit dishwasher or all of these other things.
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They're telling you what you can drive, or they've been
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trying to what you can drive how to heat your
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home with temperature to heat or cool your home, or
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it's just it's crazy. The overreach of these regulatory agencies. Well,
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this is an infringement, infringement on our on our freedom.
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It is. And when I when I tell you to
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bear with me, when I'm pro choice, I'm strongly pro choice.
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And by that I mean your viewers and listeners should
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have the choice of what to buy, what kind of dishwasher,
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washing machine, you name it. Uh, they should have the
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choice to be able to buy a shower head that
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doesn't have a flow restrictor, so the water just dribbles out.
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I bought a new I bought a new shower head
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when I moved into my new home. Uh, and it
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just it was it was a dual head. My son
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in law came down, he said, let me look on that,
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and there were three flow restrictors on that deck on thing.
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He knocked them. He knocked them out. Man, the water
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comes out like Niagara falls. Now it's a wonderful shower.
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And you know, things like that. They want to they
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have to control every aspect of our lives. We've had
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our freedom systematically taken away from us. And just we're
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just willing sheep going along with it. Well, no more,
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no more, We're going to rise up. We're going to
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do it. And it's all really came to a head
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on January twentieth with the inauguration of Donald Trump when
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he brought in his his people at Energy, at Interior,
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at E p A and others lee Zelden, Chris Wright,
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Doug Burgham. They're they're pulling back on this and they're
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going great guns. So kudos kudos to them. I talked
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with Steve Coonan not too long ago, who's the author
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of I'm struggling to think of his book. I'm sure
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you know it. It's but he and Will Happer and
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I were He said, you know, felt felt feels like
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we've had a strong headwind. We were facing strong headwinds
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in our in our battle and uh and he says,
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now feels like the winds at our back. And so uh,
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it's it's a wonderful thing and we're moving forward. We're
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going to the name of his book is going to
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gets back behind me. I know, it's almost it's not
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it's not unsettled, right, it is. It might be the
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second best book on her third best book on climate
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change that's been written in the last fifteen years. Of
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course number one would be inconvenient facts. Number two a
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very convenient warming and then probably unsettled. But I'm biased.
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Who knows well, You've been fighting the battle out there,
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you know, for it seems decades, and thank god, you know,
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because you know, there had to be some pushback because unfortunately,
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you know, with these progressive governments, so Obama Biden continued
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to course the course there and you know, we have
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been lied to and somehow, yeah, you know, again indoctrinated
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on this misinformation regarding climate and you know, thank god
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