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Well, good afternoon, Bill Martinez here. Good to have you
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with us. Appreciate you tuning in this topic. I know
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for some is a little bit of a challenge to hear,
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but we need to confront what's happening in our culture.
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For decades now, there's been so much misinformation. This issue
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of abortion, my body, my right has just been so
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entangled with emotions, and understandably, I mean, this is this
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is a personal issue, but what's happening is the emotions
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are really blocking out the things that we should consider,
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you know, in such a way that it's almost like
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we've kind of disrespected the whole idea of birth and
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how we are, in a sense, you know, partnering with
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God who is He is the creator, He is the
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one that's made all this possible. And because of our
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own convenience and you know, misunderstanding, we've really kind of
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cheapened I guess is the word, and I don't mean
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to be disrespectful about it, but we've definitely have cheapened
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our understanding of a reproduction and what it represents, not
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only in a physical sense, but even more so in
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a spiritual sense. And it's the spiritual sense that I
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believe has consequences that sometimes is beyond our understanding and comprehension,
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and oftentimes that gets blotted out when emotions come in.
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And Rebecca Terrell is going to be joining us in
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just a moment. She's with the New American magazine. She's
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also a former nurse, and this has been a topic
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that she and I have discussed many times over the
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years because we have seen the devastation that it's had
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all born, you know, from lies and misrepresentation. You know,
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when they sold everybody and the Supreme Court on this issue,
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those that were driving you know, this whole dastardly say,
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I say, dastardly and I know that's my comment. Okay,
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you may have a different way of saying it, but
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it really is. You know, you think about where we
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are right now. You know, been estimated sixty eighty million
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babies have been aborted, and even then those numbers are
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so rough and we're not even having its crew number
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on chemical abortions that have been taking place in the
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last decade because they just really don't want us to
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know the truth the culture is because they know that
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if everybody really realize the depth of where we are
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and I say, the death and our own humanity of
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where we are and all this, we have an idea
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and it's that idea that really, you know, created this
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organic movement to reverse Roe v. Wade and to move
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it back to the States. And when I say reverse,
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I mean move it back to the states, get it
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out of the get it out of the realm of
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the federal which at that point it was one size
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fits all. And of course the abortions were excited because
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when it was with the federal government, then the very
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thing they told us wouldn't happen did and that is
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that we would start having taxpayer funded abortion. And if
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that's not enough, I mean, we're all over the world
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paying for abortions. What is all that about? Anyway? Rebecca
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Trold is with us right now. Rebecca, thank you for
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joining us.
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How you've been been, Will It's great to see you. Bill,
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thanks for having me.
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Well, you know, this is such a say topic. And
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you know, as you and I talked about before, and
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with all due respect, you know, I'm a male figure.
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Certainly you're a woman. And some people would say, well, Bill,
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what do you You know, You're just a guy. You know,
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you know it doesn't matter to you. But it's mattered
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to me for a long time. And you know, as
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you and I talked about before, I really felt like,
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you know, in the Bible talks about the cry of
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Rachel when the babies were murdered, when Herod you know,
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put his edict out in hopes of killing Jesus, right,
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and you heard of this cry, And I thought when
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I was reading that many years ago, I thought, well,
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at some point there's going to be a male cry
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version of Rachel where the fathers of these children realized,
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oh my god, I killed my child, and they bought
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into the lie just like women did. That was meaningless,
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It wasn't that matter of fact, But we came to
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that conclusion on our own thinking, not even considering what
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God has to say about this.
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Right, absolutely, it is a lie that we have been sold,
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repeated and it's even worse now because of social media.
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I mean, we're all just addicted to our screens, so
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it's constantly. But you know, anytime we have a conversation
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like this, I like to start out by acknowledging that
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there are a lot of people in your own audience
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who are going to be listening to this show and
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who have had the misfortune, the horrible misfortune of being
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canned by that lie, and they have had to survive
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a horrible procedure going through an abortion, and they regret
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it now. And I do want to emphasize as we're
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talking about this, this is not in any way intended
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to damn anyone who has that lie. That there are
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in fact, you invoked Rachel's Crying Out. There's a group
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called Rachel's Vineyard that's one of many organizations founded to
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help women who have been through abortions and regret it
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and help them to find that healing that is there
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and the forgiveness that is there. Very important to start
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any conversation about abortion by making that disclaimer and saying, look,
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we're with you, we're on your side. We oppose abortion
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because we're for you, not against you.
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Right, And as you say, many women who have found
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Rachel's Vineyard or other resources to you know, to get
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some experience, some healing on this. And this is what
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ignited this what I say, this ground swell and this
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organic movement that puts so much pressure on the Supreme
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Court to finally get them to deal with this because
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they knew almost from day one, Rebecca, as you recall,
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you know, from all the notations and everything and even
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the record that they had their doubts. And and then
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of course with technology and I guess just really understanding that,
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you know, women were not necessarily in back alleys with
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coat hangers giving themselves abortions.
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They were not. They absolutely were not. I have a
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very personal story that relays that, how what a lie
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it is that before Roe v. Wade, abortions for only
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very very unsafe. All abortions are unsafe. And let's let's
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specify what we're talking about here. We're talking about elective abortion.
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We're not talking about the umbrella term in medical in
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the medical world, an abortion can mean, you know, a
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miscarriage is known as a spontaneous abortion. Still earth, anytime
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a child does not survive pregnancy or birth, it's known
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as an abortion. It's a very much an umbrella term.
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What you and I are talking about today is exclusively
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elective abortion. This is not health care. This is pregnancy
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is not a disease, and a baby, an unborn baby,
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is not a disease or a cancer. Okay, so we
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are we are exclusively talking about elective abortion. And if
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we have time, we're going to get back to this
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very important point because they use this to twist things
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when they say, you know, oh, we have u pro
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life bills or anti abortion bills and hungress that except
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for the life of the mother, you know, abortion's band
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except for the life of the mother. Well, there is
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no obgen, no matter how pro life they are, that
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would endanger a mother's life. And besides that, also, you
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do not go, you do not run off to an
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abortion mill when you're having a complication of pregnancy. That
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is a healthcare matter. So when you're when you're going
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to a planned parenthood that I call them abortion mills
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because that's what they are they are They are gathering.
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You don't realize that when you go there, you are
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being used. Your baby's organs are being harvested, the stem
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cells are being harvested. These people are making a lot
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of money, not just on the charges that they charge
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to the woman who's getting the procedure, but they are
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selling these parts. It's against the law. It doesn't matter.
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It goes on. We know it, we have we have well.
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Look and look what happened. David de Lighton caught them,
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got them on video. I think he's His legal fees
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have now exceeded over a quarter of a million dollars,
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and ironically enough, he's the only one that goes to jail. Yeah,
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people from Planned Parenthood who admitted on film that they
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were selling baby parts so that somebody could get a
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Ferrari or whatever I think the comment was, which is absurd.
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They're scott free.
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And think about the implications of this in human trafficking
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as well. Oh my gosh, abortions are now you can
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obtain a chemical abortion pills courtesy of the FDA without
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even an in person visit with your doctor, with your
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healthcare provider, So there's no screening for any type of
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abuse for any type of human trafficking, sex trafficking, So
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all of these sex this is like an open season
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for sex traffickers that can obtain chemical abortion pills through
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the mail and keep their system running without a hiccup.
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You know, nobody, no one taking the part of these
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young girls and women who are being exploited in these ways.
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So no matter what, no matter how you feel about
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and we're going to get into the topic of you know,
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when does life begin and all that, which is just
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is it's absolutely ridiculous that that's even a question anymore.
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But you know, no matter what you think about when
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life begins, do you not at least have compassion on
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these poor girls and women who are being trafficked And
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we know they are being trafficked in the not just
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in the hundreds and thousands, but in the hundreds and
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thousands and millions of Kaylin GEORGESQ a couple of years
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ago reported that eight million children go missing worldwide each year.
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That's an incredible millions, that's an insane number, right.
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Absolutely, And they said, and they said during the Biden
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years there were three hundred thousand young girls that were
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that were lost and then that number became four fifty
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now five hundred thousand. God only knows. I mean, in
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typical you know, government accounting. I guess it's just a guess.
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Right exactly. I mean, who can tell what the numbers
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are exactly? And I actually even question the numbers that
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they say that we have the world population is because
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you know, they're always talking about overpopulation, overpopulation, how is
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that possible? In so many countries now across the world
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are not even meeting their replacement rate, yes, for births,
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and that has been the case with the United States
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of America for years now. We are not we are
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handing over our culture because we are not pro creating.
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God said be fruitful and multiply. And there's a reason
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he said that too, is to protect your culture. And
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when I say our culture, I am specifically referring to Christendom.
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Rights, Western Western civilization. Rebecca. Yes, I mean that's really
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the heartbeat of America and it's what has saved the
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world up to this point.
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Absolutely absolutely. And you know we also have to think too.
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I mean, I know a lot of people talk about
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all of these things that are the transhumanism and I
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mean the journal Nature in two thousand and five published
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a work. It was a seminal work on something called parabiosis,
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and it was they were using rats and rodents at
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the time, mice where they would interlink the blood systems
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of an older animal with a younger animal and it
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would rejuvenate the older animal. And that is what has become.
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I mean, there are businesses now set up so humans
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can do this. The FDA had to shut one down
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a few years ago because it was just so latant.
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What was happening that, you know, And we have Peter,
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big names like Peter Teel. There was a big Vanity
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Fair spread about him not too long ago, in a
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recent Vanity Fair and him talking about how he consumes
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young blood every day. Regina, this is their fountain of youth. So,
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I mean, I know that this sounds outlandish and sci fi,
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but they're doing this and we were getting I don't
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know if you've ever seen the segment of the Ellen
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DeGeneres Show when Sandra Bullock was on there, you can
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look it up. You can find it pretty easily on YouTube,
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and she talks about her skincare regimen and Ellen goads
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her into admitting that what she does for her skincare regimen.
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She goes to a specialist and gets micro needling that
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injects stem cells from Korean babies.
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Wow, and for reals, this is for reals, this.
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Is this is not I'm not making this up. This
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is go look for it yourself. I mean, you know,
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people people love to call us conspiracy theorists when they
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when it comes out of their own mouths, I'm just
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quoting them. I'm saying what they've said, right.
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Well, and we know Charlie Sheen was you know, infamously