You Talkin’ To Me: The Definitive Guide to Iconic Movie Quotes

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for choosing W FOURCY Radio. Well, if you're like me and you love

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the movies, there's always, you
know, in some of these iconic movies,

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iconic lines that come out right and
they stay with you forever, and

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anytime you hear them, you can
re envision them in your brain. They've

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just stuck in there, like,
you know, say hello to my little

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friend, and you even make the
pronouncement in such a way to try to

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imitate the actor in the movie.
Well, we're gonna have a lot of

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fun today, and welcome to the
Bill Martina Show. Good to have you

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with us, sharing a part of
your day with us. This brand new

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book you talking to me, The
Defensive Guide to Iconic Movie Quotes written by

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Brian Abrams. Iconic movie lines like
I talked about have long dominated pop culture.

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A simple line in a film can
turn into its own entity, almost

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outliving the film itself. Well.
He's the author of many best selling oral

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histories. Brian Abrams explores this phenomenon
in his new book, You Talking to

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Me, The Definitive Guide to Iconic
Movie Quotes. You'll enjoy an endlessly fascinating

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look at classic Hollywood movie quotes,
from Casablanca to Dirty Harry the Godfather to

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Mean Girls. You Talking to Me
as an exploration of how dialogue can transit

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and context and impact culture to find
actors' careers and become cemented in the modern

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lexicon, including our own brains and
minds. It just will not let go.

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Brian Abrams, Welcome to the show. Good to have you with us.

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Hi, Bill, how are you
Hey. I'm terrific. I'm looking

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forward to this. I love movies. I love what you've done here.

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You know, these lines are things
that often come up in trivia contests,

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so I'm sure our audience is going
to have a lot of fun and it

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will serve as a reminder of you
know some of these, you know,

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iconic lines that continue to live within
their memory. Yeah. I don't know

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how much I thought about like bar
trivia fanatics when I was working on it,

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but it will probably help them from
time question. I mean, hey,

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if you need to call a friend
and he's got Brian's book, Hey,

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it's going to be all the more
helpful. Sure, totally. Yeah,

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say, and we win a million
dollars. Don't forget to take care

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of who brought you to the dance, right exactly, just saying, so

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this book you talking to me?
What was this three o'clock in the morning

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idea that just wouldn't leave you alone? It was I don't know, I

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go to bed pretty early. It
was more of a twenty twenty idea.

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It was more I was locked down
at the height of COVID, fortunate enough

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to be able to work from home, and I had noticed that I,

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like myself, a lot of us
were sucking down movies three and four at

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a time, and in a way
that I think that maybe at least I'm

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naive enough to believe that we hadn't
been as we previously work as we're all

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at home, or a lot of
us are at home, and I had

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gotten in touch with an editor at
Workman, this book publisher that I worked

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with in the past, and we
started discussing the prospect of what something like

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this might look like on a definitive
level. And you know, sort of

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what you were driving at at the
beginning of the segment here is that I

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was hoping the book would operate on
a couple of levels. That first,

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you have these like you have these
lines. There's pieces of dialogue that have

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rang through the culture for forever and
ever, and we may not even kind

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of know their origin or where they
came from or why. You know,

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a Martine shaken not stirred seems like
a real basic one that everyone knows.

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But time marches on and not everyone
knows Goldfinger like they used to. So

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that's one level. And then the
other level, of course, is I

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definitely wanted to speak to fellow movie
fanatics and this was just a new fresh

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angle to be able to analyze Hollywood
history. Yeah, so much fun.

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You know, I always like to
read dedications, and I noticed that you

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dedicated this to the memory of your
friend Taylor. Tell us about Taylor Negron.

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Sure, Taylor Negron. A lot
of you know him. If you

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don't know his name, a quick
google, we'll pull up his face and

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you'll go, ah, that guy. He was a writer and a comic

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actor and a number of eighties films. I'm a gen X child, so

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I grew up watching him in Easy
Money, Better Off Dead, one Crazy

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Summer Punchline, just to name a
few. He has a great turn as

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a villain in the Last Boy Scout
with Bruce Willis. But we became friends.

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I guess when I was in my
thirties in like the in I don't

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know about fifteen years ago or so. How'd you mean him? I met

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him? How did I meet Taylor? I interviewed him. It was an

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assignment. I did an online Q
and A with him, and we just

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kind of hit it off. And
formally, when you interview a subject,

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you kind of just leave it at
that and keep things exactly professional, or

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maybe they're not cordial, but he
and I just hit it off on another

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level, and we started hanging out
and we had other mutual friends from there,

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it turned out, so we stayed
in touch, and unfortunately he passed

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away in twenty fourteen, and I
felt like I wanted people to remember him

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and this seemed like a really good
opportunity to try to make that happen.

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What a cool way to do that. That that's that is such an honor,

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you know, that you would extend
to him and you know in terms

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of your relationship and your friendship and
that that is so cool. Yeah,

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glad you asked. Well, let's
uh, let's get into the book.

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Uh sure, wait a minute,
Wait a minute, you ain't heard nothing

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yet. Of course, very familiar, you know, for me personally,

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because I you know, I think
I shared with the last time we talked.

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There were many of nights I watched
the Al Jolson story. Oh yeah,

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yeah, you know, I've never
seen it, but that's the one

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in the forties, right, Yes, it came out. Yeah, I

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mean, I'm The Jazz Singer nineteen
twenty seven is a good movie. I

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feel like it's really easy to resist
silent films for all the obvious reasons.

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But uh, there are plenty that
are excellent, even though they were meant

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to be seen on the big screen. But The Jazzinger is like a it

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is a it is sentimental. It
does kind of hit you in a way,

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despite its uh, despite its portrayal
of blackface, and a couple of

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scenes. Not to overlook that,
but uh well it was it was part

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of it was part of the culture
at that time. It was part of

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vaudeville, and you know, it's
what they did. And yes, I

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mean I can understand how it can
disturb people in the modern era. But

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you have to perceive it, you
know, like you do all things creatively.

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Where did it come from? What, what where did it emanate?

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And what was it? You know, what was the part you know,

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what was it doing? And uh
yeah, I thought I thought it was

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I thought it was interesting, especially, I mean there's kind of different angles

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you can look at it. And
uh because I I just uh again,

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after you and I talked, I
had to go back. I tracked the

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movie down. I had to watch
it again, and I thought, well,

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you know, here it is at
a time, especially even today,

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as we're moving further and further,
and I'm very hopeful to think that we're

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getting to the other side of,
you know, the racial divide. I

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mean, look, what's happening.
We've got more interracial marriages than ever very

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you know, a legacy of very
successful people of color, whether they're black

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or Hispanic, and that I think
that the homogenization of America is evolving,

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maybe not as quick as we'd like, but regardless, I looked at it

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at that time, I thought,
what's interesting, you know, for all

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the you know, the prejudice that
was toward black people. You know,

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why why would white people you know, color their face black? And you

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know, and when I looked at
what, you know, Al Jolson in

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particular, was doing, you know, singing songs. You know, I

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didn't see it as something that was
demeaning, but I'm sensitive to understand how

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some people could think that. Well, I think that the average viewer of

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today, despite their race, would
look at the nineteen twenty seven jazz singer

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and I don't think they would be
they would be surprised with outrage. I

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think people are largely able to view
it in its context. It was shameful,

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it was wrong to do. Even
then, in the case of Al

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Jolson, Jewish entertainers would put on
blackface in a way to accommodate I think,

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you know, the WASP at the
time. I mean, you know,

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Jewish people were otherized in the twenties
and they needed you know, they

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were an ethnic minority of sorts.
They weren't they were kind of over there

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to some extent, and so they
were doing what they needed to do to

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sort of accommodate, but it was
wrong because they're sort of assuming a lane,

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if you will, that doesn't belong
to them. And yeah, obviously

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today we've seen to sort of jump
on what you're saying that, we've seen

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more diversification and better representation and on
many platforms. Although the one issue I

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think above all of this that doesn't
get addressed deliberately is class. That is,

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uh, that's the main issue.
I think you could you could you

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know, I'm not I'm not going
to tally the per capita of of uh

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what whoever may have been able to
climb the ladder from whatever ethnic background.

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But I think overall you can see
that the richer getting richer and will try

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to use representation for their cynical ends
to sort of paper over the truth,

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if you will. I mean,
that's that sounds like this this is for

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a different show, maybe, but
right exactly, we're waxing philosophical here and

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uh and maybe, but that's okay. You know, I appreciate you bringing

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some perspective here. I mean,
this is, you know, two humanoids

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going through the journey of life.
I'm a little bit older than you.

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I've gone down the road, and
I grew up in an area. In

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fact, I didn't know about prejudice. I mean, I was probably you

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know, if the truth be known, there was probably prejudice against me because

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being Hispanic. I just didn't I
didn't pay attention to it, and it

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really didn't come to mind for me
until I was in college in the latter

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sixties, early seventies, and it
was it was shocking to me because I

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grew up and I didn't care about
anybody's color skin. I played baseball with

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people of all races. All I
cared, did you catch the ball?

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Could you tag the guy? Can
you get a basebook when we need it?

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I didn't care. You know,
That's the way we were raised.

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And I'm grateful for that time because
it was an innocent and precious time,

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and I choose to hang on to
that. And you know, because that

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again, I'm hopeful, because I
think we've come a long way, and

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and there are some other things,
you know, you know, trying to

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get out of this a little bit
of a rabbit hole here. Uh.

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I think there's some other ways that
you're referring to that systemically are in play

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here and they're out of they're out
of the hands of most, you know,

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most of us, the every man
and woman. There are powers to

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be at a level, at an
elite level, you know, quote unquote,

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uh, that are pulling strings here
that you know, we're not fully

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aware of, but we know we
have the sense that it's not right and

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it's not fair. Uh. And
you know, my hope and prayer is

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that the majority of you know,
even handed Americans will stand up for those

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things that are right and good for
all concerned. Yeah, I agree with

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you, and I agree with what
you're saying. You know, the Pharaoh

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was always he was always successful of
getting the slaves to fight amongst themselves,

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right exactly. We're saying, Well, I love this illustration. I you

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know, again, I'm trying to
get on as whole. But we're in

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a cul de sac right now,
right exactly, and so we'll make a

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turn, we'll get out of this
here. But I love this story about

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you know, there's a jar of
ants, black ants and red ants,

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and they're all you know, they're
doing their ant thing. You know,

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no problem, it's all peaceful,
all cohabitating in the same jar until some

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knucklehead gets the jar and shakes it, and then next thing you know,

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it's rattling. What the heck is
going on? And so then the red

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hands start fighting with the Black Ants
and they're killing each other and everything,

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and they think it's the other one's
fault, not even realizing that somebody's got

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a hold of the jar that started
the shaking, that created the response.

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I thought that was an interesting illustration. And sometimes I think that, you

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know, culture and life, you
know, does that to us. So

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hopefully we can have some sober reasoning. But let's get back to the movies.

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Shock Man nineteen thirty. You think
about Hell's Angels in nineteen thirty.

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Huh right, Yeah, you're referring
to would you be shocked if I put

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on something more comfortable? The line
from Jean Harlow. And I wanted to

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write about that because I felt like
that was a turn of phrase that it's

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a perfect example of a piece of
dialogue we've all heard in several contexts over

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the years, no matter your generation. If you've heard Madeline Cohn parody it

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in Blazing Saddles, for example,
Yes, any number of TV shows,

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there's some variation of like, you
know, can I put on something more

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comfortable? And it's this come on
that's been used so much. It's cheesy,

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and I wanted to drive into the
origin and find out where it came

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from and look at the original depiction
of Geen Harlowe talking about it, and

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I spoke with a film historian,
Janine Basingers wrote, in a lot have

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written a lot of wonderful books,
and it was helpful to talk about the

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book just briefly discusses Harlow and how
she's presented on screen and how her character

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persona, which is kind of seen
across several films, is different from like

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the May West or the Lauren Bacall
who had come a few years later.

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well there's I suppose. I mean, it all comes to different variations

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in different times. But I just
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character was eager. It was it's
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from you know, sort of the
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know, like Lauren Becall's you know, put your lips together and blow just

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someone who's like really laying it on
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be wanted, and it's just a
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who's kind of like, you know, the Sharon Stone who might kill you

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afterward, right exactly. Well,
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of censorship sensitivity maybe at that time. I mean we're talking nineteen thirties,

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and though somebody may hear that and
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sensual statement. But you know,
what you miss in the context here,

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and which is what people are going
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is I gotta go back and see
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here is to think about how many
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ways that line has been used.
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you know, we could be in
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would still come up totally. By
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time for Hollywood movies, thirty to
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before there really was a clamp down
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religious backed interest group got together with
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or something like that, pre code
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that, you know, the F
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are used nip slips. I mean, it's bizarre because you would assume that

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the F bomb wouldn't start until like
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you know, your sensitivity to the
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because you had to dodge around,
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you know, we're talking, you
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Dear Watson, right right, a
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Sherlock Holmes novels or short stories.
By the way, you can find the

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word elementary, you can find my
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together. That was just one of
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it sort of came about organically in
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inserted later on in the nineteen thirty
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the most famous of all the Sherlock
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But we don't really hear people saying
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still wanted to dig back and discuss
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been used over and over and over
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there's how many stories like this that
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the public as opposed to that which
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are a number of cases like that. You mean to say, like,

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how did our a line became famous? Did it become famous? Uh?

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Due to external factors rather just just
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know, win just one for the
Gipper from newt Rockney All American, which

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was this like football drama in the
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wasn't necessarily uh, that wasn't necessarily
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at the time. But when Reagan
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and uh, he and his speech
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it for in different contexts. Then
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that everyone necessarily went back and watched
newt Rockney All American, which I did

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for the book, and I don't
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like, that's a prime example of
where a line was just torn from a

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movie, used elsewhere, and now
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Yeah. Well, there were so
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that you could pull out of it. One of them that you referred

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to is you know, of course
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yeah, I mean there there's like, you know, there's a whole There

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are several books on Casa Blanca already, uh, and the and they obviously

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have chapters that drill down into all
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same way, and there were instances
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try to focus on one line per
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to maintain an awareness of balance,
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to be seven hundred pages, so
and there is something a lot of fun.

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kinds of fun and memorabilia. This
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you. Yeah. And you know
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really sensitive to the fact that I
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old. In other words, that
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there wouldn't be enough from say,
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in the in the end, I
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have the best stories behind them that
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and the culture, let's stick with
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be that movies were more at the
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Would you do me a favor,
Harry drop Dead? Huh yeah? Are

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you gonna do Are you gonna do
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Oh gosh, I know that's the
thing. To do me a favorite,

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Harry drop Dead? Hey, good
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thing, like we're talking about,
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lines, you know, your brain
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mm hmm. Yeah. I love
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recommend watching Born Yesterday nineteen fifty with
Judy, or for that matter, any

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Judy Holiday movie. You're in good
shape. But that's an instance where that

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line, would you do me a
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necessarily hear of it anymore, but
it had its moment. It was sort

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of the meme of the moment.
People would repeat it. They would replace

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Harry with their husband's name instead,
just to bust his chops, you would.

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And so obviously the famous New York
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dead. The editors, you know, in the night in seventy five when

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the White House wouldn't bail out a
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later on discussed how it was that
Judy Holiday line that got them to think

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of that famous headline Ford to City
drop Dead, and so they gave it.

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They breathed new more cynical life into
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people knew where it came from,
but there it was. Yeah, exactly,

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Well, maybe it might have taken
them to Google and they could do

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it a little bit of research and
shar no, a little bit more than

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the common man. Speaking of which, and you had the one I'd hate

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to take a bite out of you. You're a cookie full of arsenal.

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Oh yeah, sweet smell of success
nineteen fifty seven. Yeah, terrific,

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terrific movie. And Clifford Odetts had
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It was difficult to figure out which
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because the whole script it's just,
you know, one banger after another.

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Uh huh, Well, I mean
it's amazing, you know, and I

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know you've written a book and I
think when we talked you said this was

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like a you know, a project
of love for what about eight years putting

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all this together three years? So
yeah, twenty twenty was when the idea

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came to And you know, but
interestingly, because it was the shutdown at

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the time when it started, you
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actors had nothing to do either Hollywood. No one was working in Hollywood.

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And so if you could figure out
a writer's email and just send them a

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nice note, Hey, I'm Brian, I'm writing a book on iconic movie

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lines. Buh blah buh, do
you have ten minutes to discuss the most

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famous line you've ever typed out?
Right? And like they will call you

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back nine times out of ten.
And so that was terrific. It was

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because I needed more insight than obviously
whatever I know and whatever biographies I can

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read and whatever Blu Ray commentaries are
available to me. So I'm thankful for

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like the dozens of people that called
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into the deep end of the pool
here when you get contacts like that,

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right, I mean, you're no
longer waiting because you you know, we

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only have so much experience ourselves,
you know, firsthand, And then you

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go and you talk to these people
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this, the U wants the backstories
that they know are just so wonderful and

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enthralling. And it did help me
again, I know, I mentioned earlier

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how there was sort of a challenge
in the curation of the book, which

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lines to include, which lines not
to and and so the more people I

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spoke with, the more it sort
of solidified which movies which lines I needed

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to focus on, because it was
always a frustration trying to distinguish between movies

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that you know backwards and forwards because
you've seen them for so long and therefore

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you know all the lines, and
so you you've sold yourself into believing that

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you know whatever line is iconic.
But it turns out that once you leave

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your house, maybe not everyone else
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more the more people who kind of
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figure that out. But you did
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most of the quotes and iconic lines
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a movie buff, probably not to
the level that you are, but still,

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I mean I love movies, and
I can relate and you know,

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to a good percentage of what you've
presented. We're talking with Brian Abrams.

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He is the best selling author of
oral Histories and his new book You're Talking

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to Me, The Definitive Guide to
Iconic Movie Quotes nineteen sixty two, Doctor

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No, First time We year Bond, James Bond, right, and it's

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so interesting that you know what's funny. I have to admit I'm not a

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hardcore Bond guy. I like some
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of sleep through. I feel like
I'm describing the average Bond fan too.

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This franchise is inconsistent. But I
was not necessarily aware that that introduction happened

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at the outset and that it was
he's responding to the way Sylvia Trench.

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Another woman at the back red table
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Sylvie a Trench, And I did
not realize that. I realize this

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is not like deep research. Anyone
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too. But I'm pointing, I'm
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uh, I just assumed that it
was always Bond and James Bond. It

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was just some obnoxious line that he
came up with himself. And it turned

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out that they did reuse that in
tons of movies and it did become the

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obnoxious introduction that he always did.
But but it was a response at first,

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and it worked well. The Graduate, the award winning movie, had

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many lines. You chose plastics I
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I I the entry on the Graduate, I make a passing reference to missus

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Robinson. You're trying to seduce me, which is that was the one that

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was the one I thought you would
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Well I don't know, I mean
I should have. But Plastics is pretty

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strong too, especially you can write
into it. There's room, by the

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way, you can write next to
it. Missus Robinson, there are you

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trying to seduce me? Yeah?
But so in case, But so,

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as you mentioned earlier, like in
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The Godfather, there's a there is
a way of trying when writing like a

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short essay on that line, there
is a way of folding in other lines

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to discuss them along the way.
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to pretend that I'm not aware of
the greatness of that line. But Plastics

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was Buck Henry adapting the script from
the novel, which was not in the

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novel Plastics. He had at first
taken it out he thought it was stupid,

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and then he had slipped it back
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he's gone on and he's done interviews. He's no longer with us. But

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I don't I think he's no longer
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And but he's talked about how like
that's the first line that whenever he's at

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any dinner party, that's the first
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find that kind of interesting. But
I try to get in a graduate watch

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about once every six months, just
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know. And sometimes what punctuates,
uh, these iconic lines is in the

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like we talked about before, it's
the scene it uh you know, the

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directors that have just it's like you
know, when you have layers of music,

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how it all comes together. And
in these iconic scenes, whether it's

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this or when Harry met Sally and
the uh this sex scene there in the

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diner U right zicon I mean you
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the way, uh you know,
the way it was produced, right,

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yeah, yeah, yeah. I'd
also want to add one more thing on

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the curation. I know, I'm
really like hitting this one topic hard,

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but I think about it all the
time about you know, oh, I

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should have putten that line in there, I should have done that line in

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there, And I'm like, I
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but even though I've sort of made
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as objective as possible in deciding which
go in, which stories go in,

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and why that all said, there's
like no escaping who you are. There's

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no view from nowhere, you know, you know the when you think about

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a list you put together. I
mean, it really no matter what depends

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on your own perception. That's why
I wrote a line from Robert Altman's I

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wrote about a line from The Long
Goodbye, the Robert Altman take on Raymond

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Chandler from the seventies, and I
wrote it because it's there's a sequence in

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00:30:27.200 --> 00:30:32.839
which he's it sort of opens the
movie. He's a tortured cat Dad Elliott

409
00:30:32.880 --> 00:30:36.799
Gould's detective. And I mean that
spoke profoundly to me, and I knew

410
00:30:36.799 --> 00:30:38.799
there were others that felt the same
way. But you know, I probably

411
00:30:40.359 --> 00:30:42.839
should have included what you want my
arm to fall off from Lady Sings the

412
00:30:42.839 --> 00:30:48.160
Blues, which is this iconic op
opening line for Billy d Williams. And

413
00:30:48.680 --> 00:30:52.240
you know, but I didn't grow
up with Lady Sings the Blues, right,

414
00:30:52.319 --> 00:30:53.799
So there's there I go. There, I go, just you know,

415
00:30:53.880 --> 00:30:57.640
allowing myself to sort of narrate the
book in a way that maybe isn't

416
00:30:57.640 --> 00:31:02.640
as objective. But I'm but I'm
just saying, no, I think about

417
00:31:02.640 --> 00:31:04.640
this stuff. Yeah, exactly why
I got matter. How can you stop?

418
00:31:06.039 --> 00:31:08.720
I mean, all these lines in
your head? I mean, uh,

419
00:31:10.119 --> 00:31:14.319
well, you know I was.
I remember the seventies and the line

420
00:31:14.319 --> 00:31:18.279
that we you know that became so
iconic was uh, you know, love

421
00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:23.920
means never having to say you're sorry, right right right love story and it

422
00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:32.480
was so cheesy and it carried on
and I think it's cheesiness is what kept

423
00:31:32.519 --> 00:31:37.279
it bouncing, because Carol Burnett or
Johnny Carson or whoever would just reuse it

424
00:31:37.279 --> 00:31:41.480
in different context because it's just so
ridiculous. Well, and then you had

425
00:31:41.480 --> 00:31:45.799
those little cartoons, were those little
cartoons that were out there that I guess

426
00:31:45.839 --> 00:31:51.039
maybe grew out of this theme,
right love memes and all that love me

427
00:31:51.079 --> 00:31:52.519
it's never having to say you're sorry, yeah yeah, and it's it's this.

428
00:31:53.319 --> 00:31:57.319
I mean, if there ever were
a line that belonged on a Hallmark

429
00:31:57.359 --> 00:32:01.319
card, right like, so it
just it's in all these different contexts for

430
00:32:01.359 --> 00:32:07.799
sure. Well, Soylent Green as
people, right, Soilent Green as people.

431
00:32:09.319 --> 00:32:14.039
Soylent Green, it's a sci fi
film with Charlton Heston in the early

432
00:32:14.119 --> 00:32:17.920
seventies that that this was a time
in his life when he was making,

433
00:32:19.319 --> 00:32:22.920
you know, just kind of one
bad action or sci fi after the next.

434
00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:27.200
They made money. Skyjacked is another
one. This is all leading up

435
00:32:27.240 --> 00:32:29.799
to, like the Towering and way. You know, he wasn't Edentarian Fronto.

436
00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:31.920
Was he? No? No,
no, that was that was McQueen

437
00:32:31.960 --> 00:32:36.839
I'm thinking of. Wasn't he Was
he an airport? Anyway? There was

438
00:32:36.839 --> 00:32:39.440
this moment where he was in airport
except me and you I think, you

439
00:32:39.480 --> 00:32:43.000
know, okay, but at any
rate, he was. It was all

440
00:32:43.039 --> 00:32:49.480
this sort of he was in this
like kind of crappy action era and Soylent

441
00:32:49.559 --> 00:32:51.920
Green was just a forgettable movie.
It was a hit, but it was

442
00:32:51.920 --> 00:32:57.799
a forgettable movie. And then famously, Phil Hartman does this Charlton Heston impression,

443
00:32:57.799 --> 00:33:00.799
and he did it several times when
he joined SNL in eighty six and

444
00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:06.119
in the early nineties, John Goodman
was hosting, and there was this segment

445
00:33:06.160 --> 00:33:12.079
where Phil Hartman gives his best Soilent
Green as people Silent Green as Papa,

446
00:33:13.119 --> 00:33:15.279
and it's just kind of rang through
the ages. Because of that, I

447
00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:20.839
think more people think of Phil Hartman
than they do Charlton Heston when that line

448
00:33:20.920 --> 00:33:27.000
comes up. Exactly. You also, you know, have some fun with

449
00:33:28.480 --> 00:33:37.559
mel Brooks, I would talk about
a one line iconic machine of thought and

450
00:33:37.000 --> 00:33:42.519
writings. Huh yeah. I mean
I dedicated a whole section to a number

451
00:33:42.559 --> 00:33:47.680
of filmmakers that I felt like just
they had such a wealth of dialogue to

452
00:33:47.720 --> 00:33:52.240
go through. So there's a mel
Brooks section, there is a Billy Wilder

453
00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:57.680
section, There's a Schwarzenegger section,
of course, and then I break off

454
00:33:57.680 --> 00:34:04.000
into some other themes to baseball,
comedy, universal horror movies. But mel

455
00:34:04.160 --> 00:34:07.480
for sure, Yeah, he's an
all timer. Yeah. May the Schwartz

456
00:34:07.640 --> 00:34:12.960
be with you. That's right.
Yeah, so so so so much fun.

457
00:34:14.159 --> 00:34:16.519
Of course from Jos You're gonna need
a bigger boat. Mm hmm.

458
00:34:16.760 --> 00:34:20.880
That's a great one. I mean
yeah, So, I mean this just

459
00:34:21.000 --> 00:34:23.519
kind of reinforces what we were talking
about earlier, how movies were once upon

460
00:34:23.559 --> 00:34:30.320
a time the center of culture,
right, because obviously everyone went to the

461
00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:35.400
box office this year to see you
know, Barbie and Oppenheimer. But once

462
00:34:35.480 --> 00:34:39.239
upon a time, it wouldn't make
news headlines to say everyone's going to the

463
00:34:39.280 --> 00:34:45.679
movies. That's just what people did. You would go see, you know,

464
00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:47.760
I could speak for myself in the
eighties and nineties as a kid that

465
00:34:49.280 --> 00:34:51.760
if I were to go see you
know, I don't know, Indiana Jones

466
00:34:51.880 --> 00:34:55.119
or something, or Ghostbusters, and
then you'd be Star Wars. Sure.

467
00:34:55.199 --> 00:35:00.559
For of course saw Jedi, you
know, eight hundred thousand times, especially

468
00:35:00.599 --> 00:35:02.760
when the video hit. But you're
in the movie theater and you're walking out

469
00:35:02.800 --> 00:35:07.079
with your mom or your dad,
and as you're leaving, they see the

470
00:35:07.159 --> 00:35:14.400
poster for Consenting Adults with Kevin Klein
and Annabella Shiora, which is like a

471
00:35:14.639 --> 00:35:17.760
it was an erotic thriller and which
don't really I guess there's a little bit

472
00:35:17.760 --> 00:35:21.239
of a trend of them getting made
now. But for the most part,

473
00:35:21.599 --> 00:35:23.559
that was a movie that mom and
dad would go see next weekend, you

474
00:35:23.559 --> 00:35:27.079
know, and they didn't expect it
to be a giant thing. It was

475
00:35:27.159 --> 00:35:35.440
just the thing you did different era
entirely, well exactly. And as we

476
00:35:35.559 --> 00:35:38.719
continue here, you know, in
the political realm, we always hear about

477
00:35:38.719 --> 00:35:43.840
follow the Money, but I think
most people would forget where that came from.

478
00:35:44.199 --> 00:35:50.280
Yeah, All the President's Men,
terrific movie. It is funny that

479
00:35:50.440 --> 00:35:52.360
when that came out, so this
is seventy six. The movie came out

480
00:35:52.400 --> 00:35:58.239
in April seventy six. Follow the
money, is this like whispery thing that

481
00:35:58.800 --> 00:36:04.920
deep throat says to Rob Redford in
the Parking garage. And at this time,

482
00:36:05.079 --> 00:36:07.840
Gerald Ford, who had taken over
the presidency from Nixon when he resigned

483
00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:13.639
in August seventy four, he was
up for reelection that November against Jimmy Carter,

484
00:36:13.760 --> 00:36:22.199
the peanut farmer from Georgia, and
this movie, among many things in

485
00:36:22.480 --> 00:36:27.000
the air in the news cycle,
this movie did kind of loom over the

486
00:36:27.000 --> 00:36:30.239
Ford campaign in a way, and
especially the line followed the Money. It

487
00:36:30.320 --> 00:36:37.400
was just the stinging reminder to voters
about whatever sketchy conspiracies that Nixon and his

488
00:36:37.480 --> 00:36:42.360
Republican cronies were up to two years
prior. And you know, and it

489
00:36:42.400 --> 00:36:46.039
had an effect, and it reminded
people, oh yeah, yeah, Ford's

490
00:36:46.079 --> 00:36:50.639
part of that. And it was
a close election, but that is probably

491
00:36:50.639 --> 00:36:54.199
the one line you could point to
and say that it had an effect that

492
00:36:54.320 --> 00:37:00.440
was like a direct outcome in electoral
politics. Yeah, it's amazing how these

493
00:37:00.719 --> 00:37:05.519
how these lines, these lines that
come out of the culture and impact everything.

494
00:37:06.280 --> 00:37:09.440
Certainly that's a perfect case. And
point rocky three, of course,

495
00:37:09.440 --> 00:37:15.039
we heard pity to fool I'm pity
to fool, right, And you know,

496
00:37:15.079 --> 00:37:16.599
I think most people think that came
from the A Team, Like I

497
00:37:16.639 --> 00:37:22.840
feel like people don't realize that mister
T never actually said that on the A

498
00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:25.920
Team, but you just, you
know, you associated. I thought maybe

499
00:37:25.920 --> 00:37:30.039
it was so pervasive. I thought
it came somewhere. I didn't realize that

500
00:37:30.199 --> 00:37:35.119
it had originated on a Rocky three. I'm just confused, as everybody else,

501
00:37:35.199 --> 00:37:37.719
I guess. Isn't that funny?
Oh? And it was also funny?

502
00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:43.320
Is Stallone, who wrote and directed
Rocky three, initially wanted clubber Lane

503
00:37:43.719 --> 00:37:46.840
to be Jamaican. So try to
imagine that character with a Jamaican accent.

504
00:37:50.039 --> 00:37:53.679
Yeah, and lead me next to
the Olympic Bob's sled team. You know,

505
00:37:53.719 --> 00:37:58.400
well, sure, well why don't
we put Yeah, we could put

506
00:37:58.440 --> 00:38:01.239
mister T in Cool Runnings with Candy
and see how well, what a what

507
00:38:01.320 --> 00:38:06.039
a fun movie that was? You
know we we we mentioned top Gun or

508
00:38:06.079 --> 00:38:08.960
maybe we didn't, but we should
have. Uh, and you can be

509
00:38:09.119 --> 00:38:14.320
my wingman anytime. There were so
many lines out of there, right,

510
00:38:14.599 --> 00:38:19.199
you know, well, it's funny
you picked. I mean, that's the

511
00:38:19.199 --> 00:38:22.320
one I wrote about, and I
just it's a. It's an amusing line

512
00:38:22.679 --> 00:38:30.280
because it it's not necessarily famous as
the way that maybe the script had originally

513
00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:36.360
intended. I think it sort of
points the there was just so much machismo

514
00:38:36.440 --> 00:38:39.039
in that era, right that,
And and Top Game Top Gun was so

515
00:38:39.119 --> 00:38:45.760
blatant with it, uh that testosterone
was flying off the screen. Are you

516
00:38:45.840 --> 00:38:49.639
kidding me? Right? And and
it unintentionally, you know, sort of

517
00:38:50.360 --> 00:38:57.480
created this like homo erotic uh fantasy. And I'm not suggesting that queer film

518
00:38:57.480 --> 00:39:00.159
audiences embraced the movie. They did
not. I think, you know,

519
00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:04.639
I think that you would find that
the movie was just too butch in general

520
00:39:04.719 --> 00:39:07.559
for them. But but it is
this kind of joke of you know,

521
00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:10.320
you watch the movie, it's impossible
not to notice how gay it is.

522
00:39:12.599 --> 00:39:15.760
And and and there were funny of
critics who called it at the time too,

523
00:39:15.800 --> 00:39:20.559
and and uh that was that was
fun to write about. Are you

524
00:39:20.639 --> 00:39:24.719
referring to the beach volleyball scenes?
All that was going on. I don't

525
00:39:24.760 --> 00:39:29.199
know how much of it we can
talk about on the air, but there's

526
00:39:29.320 --> 00:39:31.880
I don't want I don't want to
go, so thank you for you know,

527
00:39:32.039 --> 00:39:36.199
pulling us back. So sure,
sure, yeah, but you know,

528
00:39:36.239 --> 00:39:39.199
that's one of the things that that
came to mind. We kind of

529
00:39:39.239 --> 00:39:43.679
mentioned this when Harry met Sally.
Oh my gosh. Uh, you know,

530
00:39:43.760 --> 00:39:50.599
Billy Crystal and Meg Ryan. Of
course, the iconic U luncheon scene

531
00:39:50.639 --> 00:39:52.679
there in the Dinette, right,
oh it cats us DELI. Yeah,

532
00:39:52.719 --> 00:39:55.639
I'll have what she's having when uh, yeah, that's the director, that's

533
00:39:55.679 --> 00:40:00.199
Rob Ryder's mother mom. Yeah,
exactly. Yeah. No, that's one

534
00:40:00.239 --> 00:40:04.639
of the centerpieces in the book.
There were there there are a handful of

535
00:40:04.679 --> 00:40:07.480
lines that I felt I had to
kind of go long on and discuss at

536
00:40:07.519 --> 00:40:12.559
length. Uh. And so that
one, there's enough of a story there

537
00:40:12.599 --> 00:40:16.599
to sink into that it required sort
of several pages. Uh. And I'm

538
00:40:16.599 --> 00:40:20.360
glad you brought that up, Brian. And I'm sorry if I can interject

539
00:40:20.440 --> 00:40:22.639
just a moment here that, uh, you know, this book is more

540
00:40:22.679 --> 00:40:27.599
than just I mean, I'm I'm
reading lines, these iconic lines. This

541
00:40:27.679 --> 00:40:32.480
is a you know, kind of
a real short abbreviation. But as Brian

542
00:40:32.599 --> 00:40:37.519
just mentioned, I mean he's writing, he's giving you some background and depth.

543
00:40:37.639 --> 00:40:42.199
I mean, uh, this is
more than just uh, you know,

544
00:40:42.280 --> 00:40:45.519
the lines themselves. So this is
a this is such an entertaining read.

545
00:40:45.559 --> 00:40:49.119
You did such a great job with
this. Thank you. Yeah,

546
00:40:49.239 --> 00:40:52.400
I mean you could see you're you're
reader or viewers can kind of get a

547
00:40:52.440 --> 00:40:55.679
sense of, uh, if you
want, I'm doing an ad here.

548
00:40:57.119 --> 00:41:00.480
Uh yeah, we we go long. I mean some some are summer,

549
00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:05.679
summer longer. It just depends.
But uh yeah, I wanted it though.

550
00:41:05.800 --> 00:41:07.840
I structured it into which I wanted
it to be very pick up and

551
00:41:07.880 --> 00:41:10.360
put down. You know, I
don't want it to be something that you

552
00:41:10.360 --> 00:41:14.599
feel that you have to get engrossed
with. Uh, you know, several

553
00:41:14.679 --> 00:41:15.760
days in a row, it can
It'll be there for you. I'm the

554
00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:22.880
coffee table or toilet tank or whatever. Exactly. That was my first thought,

555
00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:24.920
toilet toilet read. I've heard that
from so many friends. They're like,

556
00:41:25.119 --> 00:41:28.960
Brian, you're on the toilet with
me every morning, and it's it's

557
00:41:28.960 --> 00:41:31.639
flattering. It's flattering. Hey,
at least at least I'm with you wherever

558
00:41:31.760 --> 00:41:36.000
wherever that might be. Yeah,
Well, the next time that you text

559
00:41:36.039 --> 00:41:37.880
me about the book, I'm like, I know where he is, right

560
00:41:37.320 --> 00:41:44.239
exactly. You can't. You can't
handle the truth, Jack love it.

561
00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:47.800
That's what I mean. You see
you you hear this and you repeat it,

562
00:41:47.920 --> 00:41:51.920
and you you got to try to
do your best Jack Nicholson. You

563
00:41:51.920 --> 00:41:54.679
know it's not fair. It's really
hard. I can't do Jackie. Well,

564
00:41:54.719 --> 00:41:58.679
he's you think he's easy to do
because you can kind it. I'm

565
00:41:58.719 --> 00:42:00.000
not. I was here at I'm
here to write a book. I can't

566
00:42:00.039 --> 00:42:04.360
do impressions well, you know,
but I'll work on it for the next

567
00:42:04.360 --> 00:42:07.519
time. I'll get my Jack down
for you. Well, well, there's

568
00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:10.280
so many others that you have to
get on you Humphrey Bogart. I mean,

569
00:42:13.559 --> 00:42:16.079
you know, got to get a
sly on there and stallone. I

570
00:42:16.159 --> 00:42:22.199
mean there's so many, you know, so many characters that you'd have to

571
00:42:22.199 --> 00:42:27.519
do. But yeah, it's like
I said, this is you know that

572
00:42:28.679 --> 00:42:34.920
a few good men and Jack Nicholson. I love the one from you know,

573
00:42:35.239 --> 00:42:39.280
Coffees for Closers Only, Right,
Yeah, sure, what a movie.

574
00:42:39.320 --> 00:42:43.119
I just that movie kind of warmed
me out. I want you to

575
00:42:43.159 --> 00:42:46.760
know that. Oh really, I
remember when Glengarry came out ninety two,

576
00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:52.440
so I was fourteen, and I
had watched it repeatedly. Yeah, yeah,

577
00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:54.039
yeah, and my mom and my
mom and dad were pretty cool about

578
00:42:54.039 --> 00:42:57.840
that stuff with me. I mean
it may have affected me in life.

579
00:42:57.960 --> 00:43:00.000
I've I've always gotten in trouble in
human reas sources that you know, in

580
00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:05.159
places of employment, and I wonder
if there's a connection there, So you're

581
00:43:05.280 --> 00:43:07.639
you're one of the ones that the
CEO has to explain to everybody else.

582
00:43:07.719 --> 00:43:13.000
Is that what you're telling me?
I mean, I'm not saying that HR

583
00:43:13.119 --> 00:43:20.320
seminars happen after my employment at certain
places, but you know it, that's

584
00:43:20.360 --> 00:43:23.599
possible. There's a connection there.
Yeah, Well, there always has to

585
00:43:23.599 --> 00:43:27.960
be a motivator. I mean,
you contributed. There's nothing wrong with that.

586
00:43:27.960 --> 00:43:30.480
That's right, that's the way to
look at it. Yes, it's

587
00:43:30.519 --> 00:43:34.239
that's my gift to them. Well, yeah, you're you're there, huckleberry.

588
00:43:34.280 --> 00:43:37.920
That's why. Right, that's right
exactly. Take you to tombstone right

589
00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:44.719
there. Uh and of course Lion
King Hakuna Matana. Yeah, are you

590
00:43:44.719 --> 00:43:46.440
going to do the whole Are you
gonna do the whole number for us?

591
00:43:46.480 --> 00:43:50.800
I didn't know if my if my
grandson was here. I when I was

592
00:43:50.800 --> 00:43:52.239
in Hawaii a couple of months back, I had a chance. I said,

593
00:43:52.360 --> 00:43:55.079
hey, let's let's watch the Lion
King. Oh my god, you

594
00:43:55.119 --> 00:44:00.320
know where they're you know, they're
perfect age. Uh what the the two

595
00:44:00.360 --> 00:44:04.000
there, six and three? We
had so much We had so much fun

596
00:44:04.039 --> 00:44:07.400
on that. Of course I saw
the political implication too, because I know,

597
00:44:07.440 --> 00:44:13.039
being a political mindset, you know, I had to come back.

598
00:44:13.119 --> 00:44:15.719
As I had said to a friend
of mine who was another political strategist,

599
00:44:16.159 --> 00:44:20.679
and I mentioned to him, I
said, yeah that I saw the lion

600
00:44:20.760 --> 00:44:23.199
king and I couldn't help but think
that where a country is right now.

601
00:44:23.280 --> 00:44:27.559
And hopefully I don't offend you,
but you know, I just said that,

602
00:44:27.719 --> 00:44:30.719
Yeah, I thought that, you
know, the country ended up with

603
00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:36.000
Scar as our current leader. But
anyway, that aside, but that was

604
00:44:36.039 --> 00:44:42.000
just a sidebar, and that's you
know, a little just silly political commentary.

605
00:44:42.119 --> 00:44:45.079
Yeah, but no, I hadn't
heard that analogy before of Biden being

606
00:44:45.159 --> 00:44:50.559
Scar. But that's interesting. I
mean, I mean, I'm open minded.

607
00:44:50.639 --> 00:44:53.760
You're not going to offend me.
Well, I try to be careful

608
00:44:53.840 --> 00:44:58.519
sometimes, you know, because I
believe it or not. I really try

609
00:44:58.599 --> 00:45:01.840
not to offend people. But you
know, when you do a show,

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a type of show that I do, which you know is all about those

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things you're not supposed to talk about, whether it has issues of faith or

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you know, political or you know, you even get into the cultural issues.

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So this is a fun escape for
me. Brian. I want you

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to know that we can, you
know, talk about these things and they're

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kind of you know, they're kind
of neutral, and you know, which

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is what I always have felt that
entertainment should be, you know, sadly,

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And I was talking to somebody else
recently about Broadway. I used to

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every every Christmas, I would go
to New York because I love the theater,

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and I'd see ten plays in seven
days. I just love the theater.

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But you know, right before COVID, it went real, it went

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real political, and you know,
so I thought, you know, I

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don't I don't want to spend two
hundred dollars for a ticket to have somebody

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try to espouse their political opinion on
me, especially when they're not that deep.

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Well, I agree, I agree
and disagree with what you're saying right

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now, and I'm with you that
well A I'll say that I have run

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across when doing press for this book
that I get a general feeling that it

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it it's a palate cleanser for a
lot of people who are tired of discussing

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the more directly political discussions. That
are happening in the news. I totally

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get that. Where I disagree,
however, is that And by the way,

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I would get annoyed at any play
that I had to see where I

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felt that I was getting lectured.
But politics is everywhere. Politics is in

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every single movie, regardless of the
movie. Every movie is coming from a

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certain direction. I'm not sitting here
saying that they're heavily ideological or that they're

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trying to push a specific agenda on
you on some policy, but they all

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come from a place and that perspective, so it's impossible to escape. Well,

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we all have a worldview and all
that's fine. I think the opportunity

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for the creatives is to come up
with something that And of course it's tough.

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It's a tough time. I mean, you have comedians that have a

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hard time going to college campus this
day, and all they want to do

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is just have fun and make people
laugh, right, And people are just

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so overly sensitive about stuff. So
I just can't wait till we get to

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the other side of it. We've
got about a minute and a half left

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here, Brandon, just a couple
of quick black panther, Oh Wakanda forever,

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right, yeah, I'm not a
Marvel fan. Really, I'm not.

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You know, I don't want to
be a hater of superhero movies.

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They are superhero movies I love.
But I'm fully aware that Wakanda Forever is

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a line and it's probably that is
the most recent line you could point to,

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I think and say that it has
sort of ricocheted through our culture,

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and so I definitely wanted to write
about that one. Yeah. Yeah,

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we close out the book with that
one, I think, right exactly,

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that's the last one. I'm right
above that last Action Heroes Liam Neeson in

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Take It, I will look for
you, I will find you, and

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I will kill you. And the
way which he says that, I mean

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it is like, okay, I
get your you know you got my attention.

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Yeah, Pete Pausmad, Yeah,
he's a throwback. He's a throwback

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to the to the eighties for sure. Well his book You're Talking to Me,

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The Definitive Guide to Iconic Movie Quotes. Brian Abrams has been our guest.

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Brian, any last minute summary sentiments
that you would like to share with

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us, It's all on you,
buddy. Hey, I'm on Twitter and

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on letterboxed at Brian Abrams. If
you want to come at me and let

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me know which lines I left out
and why, I'm happy to hear it.

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But other than that, it was
great being on the show and happy

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to come back anytime. Well,
You're always welcome. It's it's good fun.

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And I'm glad that we had this
time together, more time to be

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able to get in depth on you
know, these iconic lines, and we

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just barely touched on the surface.
Ladies and gentlemen. Well, I mean

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almost three hundred pages here of you
know, these lines, these iconic lines

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and a bit of the backstory.
I mean, you did some great work

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on this, Brian, and I
cannot thank you enough. Appreciate it.

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Thank you, thank you, thank
you for all the kind words you got

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it. Brian. Brian Abrains has
been our guest with us today. For

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more information to be a part of
this mighty movement to return to God and

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00:49:36.239 --> 00:49:38.119
save our country, go to Bill
Martinez Show dot com. Mean God bless

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you and keep you, make His
face shine upon you, may be gracious

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unto you and give you bees.
Go and have a great day. Thanks

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for being with us. Take care,