July 7, 2026

The Bill Martinez Show 07 07 26

The Bill Martinez Show 07 07 26
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The Bill Martinez Show 07 07 26
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Are you ready?

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Yeah, Okay, let's do an Ill Martinas Live a program

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about current events, our culture, our values, our politics, and

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our future.

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And now Bill Martinez.

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Hey, good morning, welcome six minutes after the top of

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the hour. Right now, Bill Martinez here with Maria Espinosa

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from the Remembrance Project. Maria, good to have you with us.

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Happy Fourth of July to you.

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Yes, thank you, Bill, it's going to be here. Thank

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you for inviting me.

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Well, you know, I want to talk about birthright citizenship

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and also talk about the Remembrance Project. I mean, this

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is something that you and your husband, your organization, you

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guys have been on this for how many years now, Maria,

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sixteen years, sixteen years.

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Sixteen years exactly.

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And this was all in response to American citizens being

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killed by people who had come into our country illegally, exactly.

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And you know, this is not part of the plan

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of what we were supposed to be doing. And at

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most I thought maybe two maybe three years, just to

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inform our legislators. But it just happened. One evening we

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were watching the eding news and saw a report about

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a Houston police officer being shot an illegal alien. The

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report talked about another case prior, another police officer that

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was killed by an illegal alien, and that the wife

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had brought a lawsuit.

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And that actually.

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That's what intrigued me because I have a I was

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a legal assistant for years, and during my research I

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found out that it was over sanctuary city policies in Houston.

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Even back then, sixteen years ago, sanctuary city policies. Yeah,

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so this has been something that's been around for decades,

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sanctuary cities and protections of non citizens and and what

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what does it cost us? How many how many lives

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do we do we have an estimate at all yet

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in terms of how many American citizens have been murdered

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at the hands And we're not even talking you know,

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rapes or robberies or anything like that. We're talking just

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homicides that have been perpetrated on American citizens exactly one.

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Hundred percent preventable and those people had a right to

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live and they should still be here with their families.

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We don't have a number on that bill, and it's

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very difficult, as you know, and that with the different ministrations.

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Also the century city jurisdictions do not collaborate with the

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federal government. They don't keep track if they keep track,

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they're not sharing them. So, you know, under Obama became

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more difficult and the media outlets, which we now are

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fake news, you know, back then we didn't think that way.

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They simply would not inform the public of the immigration

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status of the perpetrator.

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So we don't have.

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That number for in a solid number. But you can

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look in our website on in our Facebook page the

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Remembranceproject dot org of the banners that we have up,

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which very difficult again to keep up with because there

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are so many killings, especially now.

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Well you know here you were as a legal assistant

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right previously, and so you are starting to interact and

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do some research and as you discover more and more

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of this, this had to be shocking for you, Like

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how could something really on its face so illegally be

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operating in a constitutional republic.

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Right and goodness, I caught me off guard. Yeah, so

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at first it was absolutely shocking and it still is.

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You just can't get that out of your head. And

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all the families and reading memorial pages of the families,

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you know, the angel moms and dads where they're missing

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their children and they're putting ads in the paper on

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there should have been their sixteenth birthday, you know, things

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like that, and we had no idea that this was

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such a huge problem. We focused on simply in the

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city of Houston, and then Texas and then to other states,

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and we found that we needed to connect the dots

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for them. And that's why the Stolen Lives Quilt banners

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came to be, because we wanted people in Massachusetts to

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know what was going on in California and Texas, you know,

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and even within their own state, because we were losing

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our entire country, you know, one life at a time, exactly.

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You brought the quilt up to tell our audience about

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the quilt for those that you know, maybe just hearing

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about it for the first time, because this is so

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special what you've done as a part of the remembrance project.

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Yes, it is a visual memorial for the victims and

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we have their photo, their name, their age, a short

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bit of how they were killed. If it was a crash,

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it was they were stabbed to death, shot and also

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sometimes the family is able to, you know, if we

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reach them and if they contact us, to put a

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little information at the bottom, you know, dearly missed. You know,

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they have a pet name for them, you know, their

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classmates and things like that on the bottom, so that

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we really the public gets to know, yeah, this individual

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and what we're losing. So and that is on a

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polyessis of fabric. The individual Stone Lives quote banners are

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three feet tall by two feet wide, and at times

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we send them to if there's three victims on one,

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we send that to maybe a group in that state.

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And I'm glad you brought that up, bill because we

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are gearing up to recognize the remembrance month in October

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and that was teed off from President Trump's proclamation of

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the National Dair. Remember it's back in October of twenty twenty.

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So you know, go to our website, everyone on our

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Facebook page at Stone Life's QLT and share those banners.

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Yeah. The thing that's amazing, though we don't have the numbers.

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The thing that I was able to find out, Maria,

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is that every state of the Union has experienced a

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homicide at the hands of an illegal migrant. And you

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think of the rippling effect, you say, oh, you know,

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and I get it. Some people say, well, that's just

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one person. No, it's not one person. It is a family,

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is everything. It's the legacy of that family that's involved there,

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you know, and it just seems so calous because you know,

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these are the kind of comments you hear sometimes in

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congressional hearings that these discompassionate people think, you know, in

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order to justify the unjustifiable sanctuary cities, that they come

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up with these kind of you know, discompassionate statements.

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Maria exactly. You know, they're illegal bill and basically unconstitutional

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because it places these illegal aliens above and they're untouchable,

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you know, in some of those crimes that they commit,

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they're allowed to just pass. And that's so wrong. And

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you know, I think this when we first started, this

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was so bewildering to me that I thought, you know,

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why if people are so strongly set on these century jurisdictions,

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then why don't they pay for that. If you are

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so set to protect and give illegal aliens protections and amnesty,

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well then they should support them. Maybe we should have

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an illegal alien tax. And if you voted for supporting

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these illegal aliens, which is aiding in the betting, then

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you get to pay for I mean, it makes sense

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to me. I mean, how fast with those individuals change

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their minds about Central policies.

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That's like so much of what operates in the government

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is that, and why we're at thirty nine trillion dollars

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in debt o by the way, is because you have

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these interests groups who come in and they get their

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cause and somehow, through wrangling and I think some political influence,

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they're able to tap into the treasury of the American people.

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And then here we are, whether it's abortion or sanctuary

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cities or things that we don't believe in, the American

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people have to have to unwittingly, you know, support their cause.

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Yes, And I'll give you an example. You know, I testified,

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gave public comment before the Harris County Commissioner's Corps and

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at that time, the judge there wanted to give at

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legal defense fund type for illegal aliens. In amount, I

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think it was like two and a quarter million dollars

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two and fifty thousand today and this was five years ago. Today,

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bill they've received eight point three million, and there it's

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earmarked for another million this year. And especially after the

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drainage problems that we have after hurricanes in Houston, how

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many people were displaced and out of their homes. You know,

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we need that money to fix our roadways and our

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drainage system and help whoever else who are really truly

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in need, and hardworking families who might be just down

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and out temporarily. So that gives you a picture. Two

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hundred and fifty thousand now is over nine.

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Million, exactly. Well, that's the way it happens, and it

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We're talking with Maria Espinosa. She's the co founder and

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national director of the Remembrance Project. All that we're talking

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about here, Maria, what it comes down to is one

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angel Mom said, is that you're putting illegals, illegals ahead

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of American citizens. How as that just and fair?

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It isn't.

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And that's the argument.

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You know it is not. And you know we had

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one legislator even state that, oh, it's just one person,

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it's just one little girl's life. Well, you wouldn't feel

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that way, missus legislator, if you were in this angel

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mom's shoes, and if it was your only child who

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was brutally stabbed at by an illegal alien who shouldn't

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have been here and should have been in jail because

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he had a criminal record and where his own country

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would not even repatriot him exactly.

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Well, and this is the thing, and these angel parents,

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moms and dads, they're the ones that are you know,

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not sleeping in the middle of the night, waking up

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in the middle of night in pain. Their heart is aching,

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and they probably uh, you know, treasure the moment of

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sleep to where their mind can be you know, kept away.

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But how do you do that? I mean, it's with

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them constantly. And then here it is. You know, we've

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got a Fourth of July holiday, two hundred and fiftieth

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all that America represents, and your child has been murdered

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by an illegal uh an illegal entrant into our country.

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And these parents are having to live with that and thinking,

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wait a minute, what, what's what's going on with my

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country that I cannot I cannot feel secure and safe.

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Exactly And you know, and many times these family members

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have health problems built from all the trauma and go

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and heartbreak. I see it over and over, you know,

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and it's you know, very difficult for them, and you know,

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you're talking about it brings up you know, feelings to

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your audience as well, and it's just you just can't imagine,

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you know, what they go through every day, then to

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hear in the news on what's taking place in their

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country and hear their child lies six feet under while

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these politicians are feeling what I say, their campaign coffers

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with the money from all these open border pro amnesty companies,

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possibly while their child is six feet in America's coffins.

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Yeah, you're exactly right, Maria, And you see this all

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plays into you know, whether we're talking sanctuary cities, and

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of course the Supreme Court. I'm sure there's decision here

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this week on birthright citizenship. See, this is all part

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and parcel of the problem that we have here in

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the country. So what they have done, you know, to

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again consistent with what you're saying, is there disenfranchising America

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citizens and they're devaluing our citizenship Maria.

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Yeah, absolutely, And look they roll this out a Happy

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Birthday America by the way. Right. Oh, it just angers

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me to know and Bill, but we're focused and we're

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doing other things also. But yes, absolutely there are things

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that we can do that are solutions, you know, and

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those have been those solutions to birthright citizenship. Number one,

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it has to be interpreted properly. And you know, I'm

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sure you know all this. But we can also give

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certificates of birth and of an illegal alien child who

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was born here. You know, give me, you know, we're

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not saying they're not born of course, which I've heard

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some people say was outrageous, But we can give them

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a certificate of birth. But it but also we this

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proving no amnesty first of all, in birthright citizenship obviously

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is amnesty. So you know, I believe that we can

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retroactively rolled back this birthright citizenship. And look at third

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world countries are doing this, why can't the United States

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of America. Well, the will of the people have to

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prove that their parents were citizens at least one.

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Yeah, the will of the people has has to be

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clearly you know, voted out and discerned. And of course

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then of course that brings other issues because we have

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the say back that needs to be passed so that

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we can secure elections, so that the consent of the

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governed is actually the consent of the governed, not the

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consent of the administrative state or these other NGOs that

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have an outside interest that is devaluing our citizenship.

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Maria, Oh, absolutely, there are things that can that should

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be done or should have already been done. I mean

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you talk about the NGOs. Why are our tax dollars

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going to these non governmental organizations that are aided and

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abetting illegal aliens? You know, why haven't we put a

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stop to all of that. I'm sure it's going to

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be a lawsuit, but look, it's running in our country.

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It's destroying our country from within, and that's what we

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have to stop. And these people who employ illegal aliens

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as subcontractors or contractors, they have to be absolutely punished.

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And I would say, Bill, look, you know when Donald

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Trump was running for the presidency the second time, he

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campaigned on mass deportation, which is exactly what we hired

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him to do, right, So why is it that these

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illegal aliens are still here. They've been given their pink slip,

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They've been given the opportunity to have a free trip

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back home, a free flight with money in their pockets.

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So now I believe those who have property here, who

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have owned a vehicle, I think we need to implement

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rego type laws and confiscate that property, sell it and

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repay the citizen tac That makes sense to me.

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No, I I agree, because the citizens we didn't we

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didn't have Did we have a vote in this I mean,

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arguably you could say we didn't because you know, unfortunately,

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the ballot box has been compromised for decades, not just

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in the twenty twenty election. This has been going on forever.

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In fact, you know, it was a bit disturbing for

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me when there was discussion about some fraud taking place

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in the twenty twenty election. You know, Democrats even proudly said, well,

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if the truth being known, JFK was, you know, we

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kind of manipulated things in Illinois and that's how JFK

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got elected? Are you kidding me? I mean all so,

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so this is all acceptable parlance, This is all acceptable

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you know, way to play the game in politics, right

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that you can cheat and stuff the ballot box as

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long as you know the ends justify the means as

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determined by you know, a small group of people. And

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I say small, small minded, because you have to be

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small minded to attack our constitution and to injure its

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foundation in such a way that it compromises, you know,

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the strength and the reason that our constitution exists, which

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is we the people. It's a government up for by

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we the people, not the administrative state, not political interests.

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Certainly not now. I mean here, you know, to your

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point earlier, Maria, look at all the outside money, the

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foreign money that's coming into our country. And it's not

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just absolutely it's not just the trillions of dollars that

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Trump has been you know, capturing for investment. We're talking

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about people who are coming in and subverting our young people.

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They have captured our institutions, whether it's education, the media,

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you know, right on down the line.

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Right exactly. You said a lot there. So I do

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want to say that, look, there's a way to stop

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this corruption, and that is consequences built. And we have

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yet to put people in jail. Look at the j

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six or the January six people who were detained and

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my opinion, unconstitutionally and illegally, and what they did to

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them is coming out, you know, is absolutely wrong.

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Who's going to pay for that bill?

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No one. So what happens is they'll continue to do this.

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And also, and you you hit the nail on my

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head over a dozen years ago. I would say probably

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fourteen years ago that I was at a conference I

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say infiltrated. It was liberals who got together like care

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and environmentalists from California and others, very liberals and self

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proclaimed communists. You know, they talked about that there was something.

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This was back in June, right before occupy, and they

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talked about that there was something going to take place

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that was nationwide and internationally support, so outside money to

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subvert our governant to make it look like all these

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you know, kind of tent city and occupied were just

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popping up organically, and that's not at all what was

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taking place, you know, to us naively, we were just

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here raising our children and making sure that they did

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you know, did their homework and volunteering for PTA and

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all and you know, making sure HOA is not in

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our case about our grass or something, you know, right,

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But yet all around us these people with nefarious ideas

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and to take down America, America, hating individuals and you know,

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sum are citizens here. Of course, they were planning, they

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were working, you know, to ruin our wonderful life here

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and what we have as America. So I think people

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need to understand that too, and maybe some of us

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are seeing that and more and more with the news

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and the fake news and all. And you know that's

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what we're up against. If we understand that there is

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an element out there that wants to destroy America, you

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will completely understand why some of this is taking place.

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And we wonder why are politicians who many of them

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are in the pockets of some of these organizations or

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companies or packs. You know, that's what's going on here.

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But there are more of us built than there are

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of them. They might have the money, they've got the bucks,

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but you know we've got that.

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We've got the numbers right exactly, and the numbers must

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come together in the name of freedom, for the cause

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of freedom. As we celebrate our two hundred and fiftieth

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anniversary of fourth of July. Maria Espinoza, she's the co

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founder and national director of the Remembrance Project. The website

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they can go to Maria.

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Now Remembrance Project dot org. And I ask your listeners

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to please continue praying.

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Hey, we're back with you, Bill Martinez here with the

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crime expert and author Neils Grabilius joins us. Now, hey,

501
00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:04.039
miss and Hill's how we doing?

502
00:29:04.839 --> 00:29:05.400
I think I'm.

503
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Pretty good, mister martinege how are you?

504
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Hey, I'm doing terrific. You know post you know, July fourth,

505
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But the two hundred and fiftieth celebration continues. Why not?

506
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I mean, if the Pride people can get a month,

507
00:29:18.680 --> 00:29:21.200
why can't we grab a month or two or maybe

508
00:29:21.200 --> 00:29:22.119
even a year? Why not?

509
00:29:23.160 --> 00:29:27.559
Well, I mean they have Pride Season, Pride Day. You know,

510
00:29:27.599 --> 00:29:30.359
there's a Pride event in the men's room in Griffith

511
00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:33.039
Park after nine pm almost every day of the week,

512
00:29:33.079 --> 00:29:35.240
according to the Vice Squad. But what do I know of,

513
00:29:35.279 --> 00:29:36.200
mister Martinez?

514
00:29:36.400 --> 00:29:39.480
Well, yeah, exactly. Well, you know, hey, for inquiring people,

515
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you know, it's something's you don't need to answer. It's

516
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just rhetorical, right.

517
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I understand. I'll keep my mouth shut, mister Martinez, you don't.

518
00:29:49.079 --> 00:29:50.759
You don't have to admonish me further.

519
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No, no, hey, I'd be the last one. I mean

520
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because otherwise we'll both get in trouble here real quick.

521
00:29:56.759 --> 00:29:59.079
But hey, look at some things to catch up on.

522
00:30:00.400 --> 00:30:04.000
You know, Nancy Guthrie's case in and out of the news.

523
00:30:04.759 --> 00:30:07.519
It's just every time you hear about it's just heartbreaking.

524
00:30:07.559 --> 00:30:11.359
But the latest is the FBI are pursuing I think

525
00:30:11.359 --> 00:30:17.160
they've already arrested somebody regarding these illegitimate ransom demands. They're

526
00:30:17.200 --> 00:30:20.200
finding out that they're not. But you know, Neils, maybe

527
00:30:20.200 --> 00:30:22.920
you can help us out because what's being reported is like,

528
00:30:23.640 --> 00:30:27.799
you know, the ransom demands were legitimate. You know, it

529
00:30:27.880 --> 00:30:30.799
looked credible, and then now yeah, the FBI is saying not So,

530
00:30:31.519 --> 00:30:33.839
I mean, what's the story here, really?

531
00:30:35.039 --> 00:30:38.160
Well, a friend of mine named Bill Martinez says, in

532
00:30:38.200 --> 00:30:44.720
the absence of facts, opinions hold forth. So I always

533
00:30:44.759 --> 00:30:47.440
believe that the ransom notes were bogus. I think at

534
00:30:47.519 --> 00:30:52.480
least two people have been arrested for extortion for sending

535
00:30:52.599 --> 00:30:56.599
ransom demands through the media. You're trying to use burner

536
00:30:56.640 --> 00:30:59.960
phones and randomizers. One of them was even a form

537
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:05.319
more employee of the State of California. And it is extortion.

538
00:31:05.720 --> 00:31:09.559
It's not a it's not a joke. It's it's serious stuff,

539
00:31:10.759 --> 00:31:15.119
and it wastes law enforcement resources that could be going elsewhere.

540
00:31:16.680 --> 00:31:20.799
My information from sources in Pima County law enforcement is

541
00:31:21.799 --> 00:31:24.960
that it is a technical investigation at this point, with

542
00:31:25.079 --> 00:31:31.160
them attempting to separate some DNA profiles from those of

543
00:31:31.680 --> 00:31:35.960
Nancy Guthrie. There was a blood trail out out the

544
00:31:36.000 --> 00:31:39.119
front door. There was. There's been a lot of speculation

545
00:31:39.279 --> 00:31:42.160
about this character going in the back door. If he

546
00:31:42.240 --> 00:31:44.920
went in the back door, he wouldn't need to steal

547
00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:47.279
the camera and there wouldn't have been a blood trail

548
00:31:47.279 --> 00:31:51.599
out the front door. Now we have two possible scenarios here.

549
00:31:52.400 --> 00:31:55.680
My information from my Pema County sources is that there

550
00:31:55.759 --> 00:32:00.119
was no break into the house. Okay, there is one

551
00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:02.440
media source saying that there was a break in and

552
00:32:02.559 --> 00:32:05.200
it was through the back and that the floodlights weren't

553
00:32:05.240 --> 00:32:09.559
working or something like that. Okay. I don't believe the latter.

554
00:32:09.960 --> 00:32:16.880
I believe the former Nancy Guthrie probably knew or thought

555
00:32:17.039 --> 00:32:19.839
she knew the man banging on her door at one

556
00:32:19.920 --> 00:32:22.720
thirty in the morning. She had all of her babies,

557
00:32:22.839 --> 00:32:26.400
she wasn't incapable of living on her own, and she

558
00:32:26.480 --> 00:32:30.079
would have dialed nine one one if a stranger was

559
00:32:30.119 --> 00:32:33.119
trying to get into her house, like one thirty in

560
00:32:33.160 --> 00:32:39.240
the morning. Okay. And even though the Catalina Hills, you know,

561
00:32:39.319 --> 00:32:42.960
it's kind of a nice area of two sonnets, not

562
00:32:43.079 --> 00:32:46.680
that isolated from the rest of the city. Law enforcement

563
00:32:46.720 --> 00:32:50.400
can respond very quickly to the Catalina Hills in my experience.

564
00:32:50.720 --> 00:32:56.240
So what this points to his personal motive? This wasn't

565
00:32:56.279 --> 00:33:01.920
some terrorism kidnapping for ransom or a cartel gang or

566
00:33:01.920 --> 00:33:04.640
something like The cartels would never do something like this,

567
00:33:04.759 --> 00:33:07.599
kidnapping some old lady from it. When I hear that

568
00:33:07.640 --> 00:33:10.119
in the media, you know, my head wants to blow

569
00:33:10.200 --> 00:33:15.039
up build because those guys would never do anything to

570
00:33:15.079 --> 00:33:19.799
bring undo law enforcement scrutiny to them. And on a

571
00:33:20.880 --> 00:33:23.960
more basic level, it's unmanly. They'd never do it, they'd

572
00:33:23.960 --> 00:33:26.160
never get caught doing it. And if they caught somebody

573
00:33:26.160 --> 00:33:29.079
in the cartels or Mexican mafia or something like that

574
00:33:29.119 --> 00:33:32.039
involved in something like that, it'd be a death sentence.

575
00:33:33.400 --> 00:33:37.000
Nils, from what you're saying, if I'm deducing this correctly,

576
00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:40.960
are you saying that maybe the footage of the guy

577
00:33:41.000 --> 00:33:46.880
with the mask is more kind of an orchestrated situation

578
00:33:47.000 --> 00:33:50.599
because if she'd have known the person, the person wouldn't

579
00:33:50.599 --> 00:33:51.720
have worn a mask.

580
00:33:54.039 --> 00:33:57.960
I think that she thought she knew the person. So

581
00:33:58.599 --> 00:34:01.359
maybe that guy was told what to say at the

582
00:34:01.440 --> 00:34:03.240
door to get her to open the door.

583
00:34:03.400 --> 00:34:05.680
Okay, as opposed to visual Yes.

584
00:34:05.680 --> 00:34:09.039
But the other thing is he's got his roscoe stuck

585
00:34:09.119 --> 00:34:11.719
right in the front of his trousers. An open carry

586
00:34:12.440 --> 00:34:15.239
if he was part of the criminal class, the traditional

587
00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:18.519
criminal class, and he's out capering with a gun, he's

588
00:34:18.559 --> 00:34:21.119
going to keep that gun concealed to the very moment

589
00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:25.599
that he needs to use it, Okay, because he doesn't

590
00:34:25.599 --> 00:34:28.800
want to bring any law enforcement scrutiny on himself there.

591
00:34:29.079 --> 00:34:32.760
Arizona is an open carry state, but if you're a

592
00:34:32.840 --> 00:34:36.039
convicted felon, you can't open carry clothes, carry that sort

593
00:34:36.039 --> 00:34:38.119
of thing. So your options are very different if you're

594
00:34:38.119 --> 00:34:39.639
already convicted of a felony.

595
00:34:40.280 --> 00:34:43.480
Yeah, but convicts, we know they don't need to hear

596
00:34:43.599 --> 00:34:46.360
of the rules. You know what, I'm going to obey

597
00:34:46.400 --> 00:34:49.280
your stinking laws. I don't need your stinking laws right right.

598
00:34:49.280 --> 00:34:51.840
But at the same time, if you want to successfully

599
00:34:51.920 --> 00:34:54.400
execute your crime, you keep your gun covered until you

600
00:34:54.480 --> 00:34:55.199
need to use.

601
00:34:55.079 --> 00:34:58.480
It right exactly. But you know, hey, look at maybe

602
00:34:58.519 --> 00:35:00.800
I didn't cover my gun, but my face was covered

603
00:35:01.480 --> 00:35:02.400
right exactly.

604
00:35:03.039 --> 00:35:05.840
And even though I quote unquote went in the back door,

605
00:35:05.880 --> 00:35:08.280
I still had to remove the camera from the front.

606
00:35:08.360 --> 00:35:11.000
Didn't just obscure it with a b with a bush

607
00:35:11.159 --> 00:35:15.880
like at the beginning. He actually removed the camera, which

608
00:35:15.960 --> 00:35:19.039
tells me it's a fair amount of sophistication as to

609
00:35:19.800 --> 00:35:22.920
knowing what he was going to encounter in terms of

610
00:35:22.960 --> 00:35:26.239
security at that house. So it looks like personal set

611
00:35:26.320 --> 00:35:26.719
up to me.

612
00:35:27.159 --> 00:35:30.000
Well, Nils, I tell you, from day one, I've always

613
00:35:30.119 --> 00:35:33.840
thought this had to be a bit of an inside job.

614
00:35:34.599 --> 00:35:37.159
I think there's some part of the inside story that

615
00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:41.960
we're not getting that's being kept from us. But it

616
00:35:42.079 --> 00:35:45.400
just seems like everything. And you know you've been you've

617
00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:49.599
been studying this all your life, and you will have

618
00:35:49.960 --> 00:35:52.360
forgotten more than I could ever learn on this deal.

619
00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:57.519
But I just have sensed, my spidy senses from day one.

620
00:35:57.559 --> 00:36:00.400
Is said that this is something too close to home.

621
00:36:01.760 --> 00:36:04.800
I think you're correct. And now think about what a

622
00:36:04.840 --> 00:36:10.239
hon ch is, Bill. It's it's our emotional reaction to

623
00:36:10.400 --> 00:36:16.000
a fact, a statement, or a piece of information that

624
00:36:16.239 --> 00:36:21.880
hits us the wrong way. Yes, that's that's what a

625
00:36:21.960 --> 00:36:23.480
hon ch is right.

626
00:36:23.840 --> 00:36:27.320
And it seems like there's lots of lots of incoming

627
00:36:28.199 --> 00:36:30.440
that have come into our minds that just you can't

628
00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:31.239
reconcile it.

629
00:36:32.960 --> 00:36:39.119
I agree. It is my belief that the the Tucson

630
00:36:39.280 --> 00:36:42.559
law enforcement people will solve this. With the aid of

631
00:36:42.599 --> 00:36:46.159
the FBION, this will be solved, her remains will be found.

632
00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:51.320
I don't believe she she departed that that location alive.

633
00:36:51.559 --> 00:36:52.559
I think she was killed.

634
00:36:54.400 --> 00:37:00.800
Well, I guess uh, Well, in some sense that would

635
00:37:00.800 --> 00:37:03.480
be a relief to the Guthrie family if that was

636
00:37:03.519 --> 00:37:06.679
the case, that it was sooner not later, that she

637
00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:11.880
was tortured in some sort of extreme manner. And maybe,

638
00:37:12.039 --> 00:37:15.360
you know, the other possibility you've talked about it that

639
00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:19.800
this was a kidnapped for ransom gone wrong, that something

640
00:37:19.920 --> 00:37:26.079
happened that that you know, caused her demise to happen premeditatively.

641
00:37:27.039 --> 00:37:27.840
If I'm saying.

642
00:37:27.599 --> 00:37:31.679
That's that's a possible, prematurely prematurely is a better word,

643
00:37:31.760 --> 00:37:32.840
not prema prematurely.

644
00:37:33.239 --> 00:37:38.519
I consider kidnapping for ransom to be incredibly remote. Yeah,

645
00:37:38.559 --> 00:37:41.480
you know, they'd have to have really good inside information

646
00:37:41.840 --> 00:37:44.599
a good plan that sort of thing. Now, they planned

647
00:37:44.639 --> 00:37:48.280
well enough that they've been able to invade identification and

648
00:37:48.360 --> 00:37:51.760
location thus far. But I don't think that that will

649
00:37:51.800 --> 00:37:52.719
go on forever.

650
00:37:54.119 --> 00:37:57.639
That do you kind of feel like maybe the noose

651
00:37:57.760 --> 00:38:01.559
is tightening around the evidence here in such a way

652
00:38:01.559 --> 00:38:06.760
that this could possibly be exposed maybe before the end

653
00:38:06.760 --> 00:38:07.159
of the year.

654
00:38:08.719 --> 00:38:13.159
Potential exists. The people in the Bureau who handle scientific

655
00:38:13.519 --> 00:38:18.440
investigation are very closed mouth that have to be, and

656
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their investigation is mostly tight at this point. The p

657
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MAC County people I get more from them. They're the

658
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659
00:38:30.039 --> 00:38:33.440
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660
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We're talking with.

738
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Nils gravellis the crime expert author and US Army vet

739
00:42:47.559 --> 00:42:50.480
author of the new book coming up, The Last Lawman,

740
00:42:50.559 --> 00:42:53.800
True Story is of a private detective. You know, just

741
00:42:53.840 --> 00:42:57.400
to put a ball around this, Nils, when we're talking,

742
00:42:57.639 --> 00:43:01.679
you know, a tech a tech technical investigation. I think

743
00:43:01.719 --> 00:43:05.039
that's the word you use, right, is that? Okay? Exactly

744
00:43:05.079 --> 00:43:06.159
what does that mean?

745
00:43:08.000 --> 00:43:10.519
Let's say you come to a crime scene and you

746
00:43:10.559 --> 00:43:15.760
have DNA profiles for four people in their intermixed So

747
00:43:15.840 --> 00:43:19.239
if you have blood on blood, spit on spit urine

748
00:43:19.280 --> 00:43:23.519
on urine, semen on semen, things like that, it can

749
00:43:23.559 --> 00:43:27.079
take quite a bit of scientific resources to separate the

750
00:43:27.159 --> 00:43:30.679
DNA profiles, especially if one of them is only trace

751
00:43:30.880 --> 00:43:35.599
rather than fulsome like a blood trail. That's an example,

752
00:43:35.599 --> 00:43:39.599
and I'm not saying that that's what's occurring here now.

753
00:43:39.639 --> 00:43:44.840
In the realm of cellular metadata. This gets out into

754
00:43:44.840 --> 00:43:49.719
the weeds of something I will characterize as radio electronic combat.

755
00:43:49.760 --> 00:43:52.840
I had to take a week of radio electronic combat

756
00:43:52.880 --> 00:43:57.519
in the Army, and it was all AMFM, voice radios,

757
00:43:57.880 --> 00:44:02.000
noncommunication signals that that sort of thing, and it was

758
00:44:02.039 --> 00:44:06.639
the boringest, driest subject in the world. Well, you need

759
00:44:06.679 --> 00:44:09.519
to have a technical guy who can separate all of

760
00:44:09.559 --> 00:44:13.519
the cellular telephone signals that night and then try to

761
00:44:13.599 --> 00:44:17.719
attribute a cellular telephone signal to a perpetrator or a

762
00:44:17.719 --> 00:44:21.360
group of perpetrators. Now, the way that a crime of

763
00:44:21.440 --> 00:44:27.039
this is like this is typically perpetrated. They conduct reconnaissance,

764
00:44:27.559 --> 00:44:30.800
which in the criminal world is called casing. Casing the job,

765
00:44:31.480 --> 00:44:35.119
whether it's for burglary or robbery or kidnapping, a murder, whatever,

766
00:44:36.119 --> 00:44:38.119
they're going to look at the place they have to go.

767
00:44:38.239 --> 00:44:41.639
They know the way in, another way out if their

768
00:44:41.800 --> 00:44:47.320
professional criminals are going to have some cover for status,

769
00:44:47.360 --> 00:44:50.519
cover for action, if they're contacted by law enforcement. You know,

770
00:44:50.719 --> 00:44:56.280
all of these things go into the planning of criminal behavior. Now,

771
00:44:57.559 --> 00:45:00.239
I continue to believe that this was it was a

772
00:45:00.320 --> 00:45:04.039
very well executed crime done by an amateur or somebody

773
00:45:04.039 --> 00:45:10.519
with not that much criminal experience. Okay, just simply because

774
00:45:10.519 --> 00:45:16.519
of the way the gun was carried. Why Ah, I

775
00:45:16.559 --> 00:45:19.280
don't believe any of these ransom demands. I think this

776
00:45:19.519 --> 00:45:21.039
was all personal motive.

777
00:45:23.679 --> 00:45:27.360
Personal motive, like he was getting back maybe Nancy Guthrie

778
00:45:27.519 --> 00:45:31.400
or her daughter ticked off somebody.

779
00:45:33.000 --> 00:45:36.159
That exists within the realm of possibility, right. The other

780
00:45:37.280 --> 00:45:40.960
possibility is something a little bit more immediate and close.

781
00:45:41.000 --> 00:45:44.639
And I don't want to get into accusing somebody. What

782
00:45:44.719 --> 00:45:49.719
if one sibling wanted to accelerate his inheritance or her inheritance.

783
00:45:50.360 --> 00:45:53.239
Savannah Gothrie has all the money in the world, Okay.

784
00:45:54.880 --> 00:45:57.960
The brother, Cameron, I believe, is a retired Navy or

785
00:45:58.000 --> 00:46:02.599
Air Force fighter pilot. Okay, less of a motive for him,

786
00:46:03.199 --> 00:46:06.119
and I will leave it at there. There's a third

787
00:46:06.239 --> 00:46:10.159
sister with a husband who's an educator I believe, an

788
00:46:10.199 --> 00:46:12.760
immigrant from Italy, that sort of thing. There are a

789
00:46:12.800 --> 00:46:15.679
lot of different possibilities here, and I would be going

790
00:46:15.719 --> 00:46:21.719
off into something speculative and irresponsible and potentially libelous if

791
00:46:21.760 --> 00:46:22.840
I took him further.

792
00:46:23.320 --> 00:46:25.920
Well, let's let's leave it there. But I appreciate what

793
00:46:25.920 --> 00:46:29.719
you're saying because you know the whole technical aspect. I mean,

794
00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:36.199
these people that that exceed in this discipline, wow, I

795
00:46:36.239 --> 00:46:40.239
mean they they are of a unique mindset, as you say,

796
00:46:40.280 --> 00:46:44.159
because this this is very tedious to be able to,

797
00:46:45.800 --> 00:46:48.159
you know, to unwind this ball of yarn.

798
00:46:48.920 --> 00:46:52.320
Right, it's a needle in a needlestack rather than a

799
00:46:52.360 --> 00:46:55.840
needle in a haystack. Would be easy in comparison.

800
00:46:55.639 --> 00:47:00.840
Right, exactly. Well, let's talk about the Pelosi's Pelosi still

801
00:47:01.079 --> 00:47:04.880
having a hard time driving. He got cited for a

802
00:47:04.960 --> 00:47:08.079
hit and run his latest episode. Huh.

803
00:47:08.119 --> 00:47:11.960
Well, even at his advanced age, Paul hasn't figured out

804
00:47:12.000 --> 00:47:14.639
what you do when you hit somebody else's car. Do

805
00:47:14.719 --> 00:47:18.960
you leave a note under the windshield wiper saying gosh, sorry, stranger,

806
00:47:19.079 --> 00:47:21.960
I clipped your car. I hope I didn't do that

807
00:47:22.079 --> 00:47:25.039
much damage. Would you please call me and let me

808
00:47:25.079 --> 00:47:27.920
know what I can do to set this right? Well,

809
00:47:27.920 --> 00:47:31.519
Paul didn't do that. Paul just left the scene. Okay,

810
00:47:33.719 --> 00:47:36.559
you know the hit and split as it's golden California,

811
00:47:36.599 --> 00:47:38.880
seems to be like a bronze medal event in the

812
00:47:38.920 --> 00:47:40.920
Democrat Olympics. What the hell do I know?

813
00:47:41.039 --> 00:47:41.280
Bill?

814
00:47:41.440 --> 00:47:45.360
Okay, it's a big problem, and I often get these cases,

815
00:47:45.400 --> 00:47:47.679
and in fact, in the last Loan Man, I detail

816
00:47:48.000 --> 00:47:50.960
a hit and run case with the guy who was

817
00:47:51.039 --> 00:47:55.559
drunk worked at a hospital put a woman. I injured

818
00:47:55.559 --> 00:47:58.480
her so badly that she got taken to the emergency room.

819
00:47:58.519 --> 00:48:01.519
Of the hospital at which he was in employed. But

820
00:48:02.119 --> 00:48:04.960
he covered his tracks pretty good except for leaving a

821
00:48:05.039 --> 00:48:09.599
truck bumper with the license plate at the scene. And

822
00:48:09.679 --> 00:48:12.519
the police were so you know, busy doing other things

823
00:48:12.559 --> 00:48:15.599
they didn't even bother themselves with it. So it was

824
00:48:16.079 --> 00:48:18.400
it fell to the private detective to handle what the

825
00:48:18.440 --> 00:48:21.679
police detectives were, you know, doing other things on.

826
00:48:22.199 --> 00:48:24.920
Can you imagine how silly that must have been. It's like,

827
00:48:25.480 --> 00:48:27.599
you know, here they are doing all this investigation, trying

828
00:48:27.599 --> 00:48:30.320
to figure out and then a private detective comes in

829
00:48:30.360 --> 00:48:34.079
and goes, hey, what about this bumper in the license plate?

830
00:48:34.320 --> 00:48:36.840
Do you think that might have any relevance whatsoever.

831
00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:40.119
Well, they didn't even investigate it. They sent a patrol

832
00:48:40.199 --> 00:48:43.360
unit over to take a report, and the tow truck

833
00:48:43.400 --> 00:48:45.760
cleaned up the scene, and they left the bumper in

834
00:48:45.840 --> 00:48:48.480
the gutter and I found it. That's what I did.

835
00:48:48.880 --> 00:48:51.639
They left the bumper in the gutter.

836
00:48:52.159 --> 00:48:58.960
Right, so I decoded the If you're a civilian, this

837
00:48:59.039 --> 00:49:02.280
happens to you, the police are forbidden by policy from

838
00:49:02.320 --> 00:49:05.000
identifying who hits you, hit your car put you in

839
00:49:05.039 --> 00:49:07.519
the hospital. We could never do that. We couldn't violate

840
00:49:07.559 --> 00:49:11.159
their privacy, right so you have to hire somebody like

841
00:49:11.280 --> 00:49:16.119
me to handle the situation. So I went over and

842
00:49:16.199 --> 00:49:18.480
knocked on his door, and he still had booze on

843
00:49:18.559 --> 00:49:21.159
his breath and was shaky at you know, eleven thirty

844
00:49:21.159 --> 00:49:24.519
in the morning, And I said, the woman that you

845
00:49:24.639 --> 00:49:28.760
hit is in the er at the hospital you used

846
00:49:28.800 --> 00:49:35.920
to work at. I took a tape recorded confession from him.

847
00:49:36.440 --> 00:49:39.880
Now, when you do that, you have to miranda. I

848
00:49:40.000 --> 00:49:44.480
just curious question you. You're not an official. I'm a

849
00:49:44.559 --> 00:49:47.840
law enforcement officer, so you don't have to give him

850
00:49:47.960 --> 00:49:50.400
a miranda. You don't have to mirandize him, do you?

851
00:49:51.440 --> 00:49:55.639
Under certain circumstances I must, oh. I like if a

852
00:49:55.719 --> 00:50:00.239
government entity puts me on the job. Occasionally I will

853
00:50:00.280 --> 00:50:03.079
have a police agency deputized me to do what they

854
00:50:03.119 --> 00:50:06.880
cannot do or must not do. And when I'm working

855
00:50:07.320 --> 00:50:09.960
under those circumstances, I always mirandize them.

856
00:50:10.400 --> 00:50:13.880
Okay. Oh so so even in that case, as you're

857
00:50:13.920 --> 00:50:16.519
holding up the bumper with his license plate, you go,

858
00:50:18.159 --> 00:50:20.880
you pull out your cheat sheet and read him his

859
00:50:20.960 --> 00:50:21.679
miranda rights.

860
00:50:21.760 --> 00:50:21.920
Right.

861
00:50:23.719 --> 00:50:25.960
I didn't have to read him his rights, hunta. I

862
00:50:26.039 --> 00:50:28.920
just said, you know, you used to work at the hospital,

863
00:50:29.199 --> 00:50:31.679
So let's get this whole squared away. The best way

864
00:50:31.719 --> 00:50:34.000
to do this is to be fearless and thorough from

865
00:50:34.000 --> 00:50:37.039
the very start. You know, try to start your life

866
00:50:37.079 --> 00:50:40.039
over because you did something right and they never filed

867
00:50:40.079 --> 00:50:42.880
felony charges on him. Only wound up with was losing

868
00:50:42.880 --> 00:50:44.199
his job in a lawsuit.

869
00:50:44.599 --> 00:50:48.400
Oh wow, crazy. So for Paul Pelosi, I mean for

870
00:50:48.480 --> 00:50:50.920
him to leave the crime. You don't know if he

871
00:50:51.119 --> 00:50:54.920
was drunk, you know what his blood level was at

872
00:50:54.920 --> 00:50:58.159
this point right now, I mean, he's walked away with

873
00:50:58.320 --> 00:51:00.000
evidence of a crime.

874
00:51:00.800 --> 00:51:05.199
Right still illegal though in California. Bill, let's break it

875
00:51:05.239 --> 00:51:10.199
down for the audience. What's really illegal in California? Lighting

876
00:51:10.280 --> 00:51:14.440
fireworks on fourth of July, being disrespectful to Karen Bass,

877
00:51:15.320 --> 00:51:19.760
making a Gavo del Tardo Gavin Knew some joke? What's illegal?

878
00:51:19.800 --> 00:51:22.800
And beating up men and skirts? Tell me what's illegal

879
00:51:22.840 --> 00:51:25.719
in California? Bill, I'll listen patiently and wait.

880
00:51:26.239 --> 00:51:29.960
Well, whatever the residing district attorney says it is illegal.

881
00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:32.000
It seems like yeah, I.

882
00:51:31.960 --> 00:51:34.440
Mean there's some there's some potential there. I bet that

883
00:51:34.599 --> 00:51:36.719
san fran Nan will have a fix for this.

884
00:51:37.519 --> 00:51:40.360
You know, well she got she was able to get

885
00:51:40.400 --> 00:51:43.519
him out of the other one. And uh, you know,

886
00:51:43.639 --> 00:51:45.760
and I still don't know that story. That's got to

887
00:51:45.800 --> 00:51:49.239
be a fun story to decipher at some point down

888
00:51:49.280 --> 00:51:52.679
the road. How this guy comes into his house and

889
00:51:52.679 --> 00:51:56.239
and supposedly is beating him over the head with a hammer.

890
00:51:56.840 --> 00:51:58.639
I don't just sounds out.

891
00:51:58.559 --> 00:52:02.719
Of talking about the legal alien from Canada, right exactly

892
00:52:03.320 --> 00:52:06.199
in the city where illegal aliens had a problem. Well

893
00:52:06.199 --> 00:52:08.800
that was the Onlucky sti illegal alien in the history

894
00:52:08.800 --> 00:52:12.280
of illegal aliens in San Francisco.

895
00:52:11.840 --> 00:52:15.000
Right right, So I wonder if he's getting any kind

896
00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:18.079
of special Pelosi treatment there because he took a bullet

897
00:52:18.079 --> 00:52:19.320
for the team.

898
00:52:20.360 --> 00:52:22.239
It's hard to say. It's hard to say. Do you

899
00:52:22.280 --> 00:52:24.320
think they'll deport that into a llegal alien?

900
00:52:25.280 --> 00:52:28.960
Well, he's right where they want him right now. He's

901
00:52:29.000 --> 00:52:32.440
locked up in quiet. He's not doing any TMZ interviews though.

902
00:52:32.480 --> 00:52:36.920
By the way, Hey, speaking of Karen Bass, this is

903
00:52:37.719 --> 00:52:41.400
this whole deal so bewildering, especially in light of all

904
00:52:41.480 --> 00:52:46.000
the talk about socialism. What's happened with these candidates, these socialists,

905
00:52:46.280 --> 00:52:50.360
candidates from the Democratic Party that are winning these primary

906
00:52:51.239 --> 00:52:55.719
run runs in that and you've got, you know, so

907
00:52:55.840 --> 00:52:59.199
many problems in Los Angeles and Karen Bass. Of course,

908
00:52:59.239 --> 00:53:01.920
the big issues homelessness, the thing that she said four

909
00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:05.639
years ago, she's going to have it sculped under control.

910
00:53:06.119 --> 00:53:08.199
She's going to take it, you know, take it by

911
00:53:08.239 --> 00:53:11.079
the horns and fix this problem. And here it is

912
00:53:11.079 --> 00:53:13.559
four years later. It's worse than what it was before

913
00:53:13.599 --> 00:53:14.880
she was elected the first time.

914
00:53:16.599 --> 00:53:19.199
Yes, well, she's not going to do anything other than talk.

915
00:53:19.320 --> 00:53:24.920
She's going to count on certain segments of the California

916
00:53:24.960 --> 00:53:28.800
political media to drive her getaway car while she tries

917
00:53:28.840 --> 00:53:31.840
to fight off the communists. She's a communist. Well, the

918
00:53:33.079 --> 00:53:39.840
worst communist is Nythia Rahman. So the communists running all

919
00:53:39.880 --> 00:53:43.159
of the homeless angos, the drug treatment angios, all of

920
00:53:43.199 --> 00:53:46.920
this federal money that they get, the state money that's

921
00:53:46.960 --> 00:53:50.199
cryptocurrency for those people. And they're going to make sure

922
00:53:50.239 --> 00:53:58.239
that every dead body, cartoon character, house, pet, wino, junkie, bum, hype,

923
00:53:58.320 --> 00:54:03.719
et cetera, turn in a perfectly executed ballot at the

924
00:54:03.840 --> 00:54:07.480
very last minute, just like in the primary. And I'm

925
00:54:07.480 --> 00:54:09.920
going to say right here, I think Nathia Ralman's going

926
00:54:09.960 --> 00:54:10.239
to win.

927
00:54:11.480 --> 00:54:14.599
Really that could be interesting.

928
00:54:16.559 --> 00:54:20.599
I think it'll be wildly amusing. I mean, look at

929
00:54:20.639 --> 00:54:23.679
mom Donkey Stan look at what Mom Donkey did in

930
00:54:23.800 --> 00:54:28.079
New York. And now he's got a bunch of flaming socialists,

931
00:54:29.280 --> 00:54:32.960
outright communists running for office. You know, you've got the

932
00:54:33.000 --> 00:54:39.360
governor of Pennsylvania, Josh Shapiro, trying to libsplain the communists.

933
00:54:39.960 --> 00:54:44.280
They don't want to offend these Jacobins in the Democrat Party,

934
00:54:44.360 --> 00:54:46.480
so they won't stand up to them yet. But they're

935
00:54:46.480 --> 00:54:49.039
going to have to because their voters are going to

936
00:54:49.079 --> 00:54:52.639
start going over a little bit at a time to

937
00:54:52.719 --> 00:54:58.000
the GOP, if the GOP can mind itself right now.

938
00:54:58.079 --> 00:55:01.280
But you know, the way that they've effectively suppressed the

939
00:55:01.360 --> 00:55:05.119
vote that you have, like in New York, you know,

940
00:55:05.159 --> 00:55:09.760
people being elected with what twelve to fifteen percent of voters.

941
00:55:10.159 --> 00:55:11.880
I mean, LA is going to be the same thing.

942
00:55:12.000 --> 00:55:15.239
I mean, the vote is so suppressed, I think you'd

943
00:55:15.239 --> 00:55:17.920
probably be lucky to get twenty percent of the voters.

944
00:55:18.360 --> 00:55:19.079
Do you think.

945
00:55:22.119 --> 00:55:26.519
I'm excited? You know, Remind me what it is that

946
00:55:26.599 --> 00:55:29.239
I do for a living. Oh, that's right. I solved problems,

947
00:55:29.320 --> 00:55:32.920
right and his problems? Do I solve the people who

948
00:55:33.000 --> 00:55:36.159
voted their way into the problems that they loved so

949
00:55:36.320 --> 00:55:39.519
much that they voturely signaled over prior to getting victimized

950
00:55:39.559 --> 00:55:40.559
by their own ballot.

951
00:55:42.039 --> 00:55:45.000
Well, I'll tell you to be continued, no doubt. Nils

952
00:55:45.039 --> 00:55:47.559
Gravilli is the crime expert, author and US Army vet.

953
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Hey, good morning, six minutes after the top of the hour.

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Glad you could join us on Bill Martinez's Dennis Neal

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the best selling author and acclaimed journalist, author of Aura Gonners,

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and I'm sure we'll touch on his book once again.

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Oorra Gonners. I gotta tell you, Dennis Oragnners are so

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gone that they didn't even participate in the NISSA State Fair.

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Yeah, one of nine or ten states, including Pennsylvania where

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the Constitution was drafted. And do you have to be

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that lib widted, that partisan? I mean when when twenty

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five percent is it or twenty eight percent of the

989
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Democrat party says they're not says they're the only ones

990
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in the party who are proud to be American. We

991
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got a real problem. And shame on every one of

992
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those who aren't proud, because I am more proud of

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my country at this moment than ever before.

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00:58:00.079 --> 00:58:03.159
Well exactly, I mean two hundred and fifty years, looking

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in the rear view mirror of all the accomplishments, and

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what has made this country so exceptional and what could

997
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catapult us to the next two hundred and fifty years?

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All based on our god given right and the blessing

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of freedom that allows you, me, everybody to be the

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best version of themselves. Dennis, what other country offers you?

1001
00:58:23.320 --> 00:58:28.800
Exactly? And the key to that is capitalism, right, And politicians,

1002
00:58:28.840 --> 00:58:32.639
Republicans and Democrats alike are failing to stand up in

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00:58:32.719 --> 00:58:36.000
defense of capitalism because it is capitalism that has set

1004
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us free. It is capitalism that has raised and tripled

1005
00:58:40.039 --> 00:58:42.639
the per capita income and the poorest parts of Asia

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00:58:42.719 --> 00:58:45.679
in the past ten or twenty years. And I saw

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chart on X the other day, Bill, and it showed

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00:58:48.719 --> 00:58:52.119
that the US and Europe combined were about the same

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land mass, same resources, and similar population sizes back ten

1010
00:58:56.960 --> 00:58:59.719
to fifteen years ago, and they were equal in size

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00:58:59.719 --> 00:59:04.000
and GP. And now we are thirty forty percent larger

1012
00:59:04.039 --> 00:59:09.599
in GDP than that combination because of capitalism Europe went socialist, and.

1013
00:59:09.639 --> 00:59:12.880
Because of Donald Trump, because look what happened under Joe Biden,

1014
00:59:13.320 --> 00:59:17.559
that gap had really narrowed down significantly. Less people forget,

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00:59:17.800 --> 00:59:20.039
especially those that want to talk about affordability.

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Before Trump was elected first term, we were on track

1017
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to become the number two economy in the world, behind China.

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00:59:27.360 --> 00:59:29.480
But then Trump came in and the economy of the

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00:59:29.480 --> 00:59:32.960
first term started growing fifty percent faster than in the

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00:59:33.000 --> 00:59:35.480
previous average growth of the ten or twenty years. I

1021
00:59:35.559 --> 00:59:37.519
checked it at the time for the book I helped

1022
00:59:37.599 --> 00:59:41.199
lou Dobbs write The Trump Century, just incredible. And the FED,

1023
00:59:41.639 --> 00:59:44.639
which during Obama had raised rates only twice near the

1024
00:59:44.760 --> 00:59:47.760
end of eight years, that's all in eight years of Obama.

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00:59:47.840 --> 00:59:50.760
The FED then looks at this growth where there's no

1026
00:59:50.800 --> 00:59:55.360
signs of inflation, and the FED raises rates nine times

1027
00:59:55.360 --> 00:59:59.960
in Trump's four years. Just awful. And yet the economy's

1028
01:00:00.239 --> 01:00:04.239
grew really well all up until COVID So but kills me.

1029
01:00:04.280 --> 01:00:08.320
Bill though, is given that incredible growth, given the most creative,

1030
01:00:08.519 --> 01:00:13.159
innovative economy in the world, given the amazing advances with AI,

1031
01:00:13.440 --> 01:00:16.519
all of this good news. We have a big push

1032
01:00:16.639 --> 01:00:20.079
in the America for socialism right now, and New York

1033
01:00:20.119 --> 01:00:23.360
City is with Kami Mom Donnie. You know the nice

1034
01:00:23.360 --> 01:00:26.559
thing Aboutkammi Mom Donnie is he's making me really happy

1035
01:00:26.639 --> 01:00:29.360
that I left Brooklyn after forty three years in January

1036
01:00:29.440 --> 01:00:31.599
and moved to Sofla, South Florida.

1037
01:00:32.159 --> 01:00:35.960
Right now, have you been out buying your Tommy Bahama shirts? Now?

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01:00:36.639 --> 01:00:39.440
You know what, I have actually bought a couple of

1039
01:00:39.679 --> 01:00:42.800
Tommy Bahama or other kind of like Hawaiians, right, I

1040
01:00:42.800 --> 01:00:45.039
got to change by Look, I got a whole bunch

1041
01:00:45.039 --> 01:00:47.760
of black T shirts and black jeans which are just

1042
01:00:47.880 --> 01:00:50.000
murdered down here in ninety degree weather.

1043
01:00:49.800 --> 01:00:53.599
Right exactly. Yeah, so I want to go for some yea, yeah,

1044
01:00:53.639 --> 01:00:55.800
but look at the heat that's invading New York and

1045
01:00:55.920 --> 01:00:59.440
DC these days. Right now, they're looking at triple digit

1046
01:00:59.519 --> 01:01:03.199
numbers in the next couple of days. So we can

1047
01:01:03.280 --> 01:01:06.679
handle the eighty five almost ninety degree temperature, sure, you

1048
01:01:06.719 --> 01:01:08.719
and I. But anyway, getting back to what you were

1049
01:01:08.719 --> 01:01:11.599
saying earlier, you know, with these young kids and people

1050
01:01:11.599 --> 01:01:15.840
looking at socialism, I say this, this is my assessment, Dennis,

1051
01:01:15.880 --> 01:01:18.280
and correct me. You know, of course, I want your

1052
01:01:18.280 --> 01:01:23.039
input on this is that I think it's correct observation,

1053
01:01:23.239 --> 01:01:28.119
wrong conclusion. The reason these kids are leaning towards socialism

1054
01:01:28.400 --> 01:01:30.400
not only because of the professors and all that sort

1055
01:01:30.440 --> 01:01:33.480
of thing, but those that have been driving capitalism in

1056
01:01:33.519 --> 01:01:37.159
our country, they have mucked it up with government regulations,

1057
01:01:37.239 --> 01:01:40.360
fraud and other things that have Really, if you got

1058
01:01:40.400 --> 01:01:44.000
that stuff out of there, the eight cylinders of capitalism

1059
01:01:44.079 --> 01:01:48.119
would be riproaring and doing all kinds of incredible things.

1060
01:01:48.400 --> 01:01:51.440
And even in spite of all that interference, it's still,

1061
01:01:51.719 --> 01:01:54.639
you know, an incredible engine for the economy.

1062
01:01:55.280 --> 01:01:58.920
Well, respectfully, Bill, I think that the youth punks you know,

1063
01:01:59.000 --> 01:02:01.480
that old saying you is wasted on the wrong people.

1064
01:02:02.000 --> 01:02:07.239
The young I really think that they aren't even aware

1065
01:02:07.280 --> 01:02:09.719
of the government fraud, the massive government fraud, nor do

1066
01:02:09.800 --> 01:02:12.079
they care about it. Because most of marth the ones

1067
01:02:12.079 --> 01:02:14.079
who are paying the taxes, right, they keep saying that

1068
01:02:14.480 --> 01:02:16.519
top one percent doesn't pay their.

1069
01:02:16.400 --> 01:02:19.280
Fare, But they're the ones that are being hamstrung with

1070
01:02:19.360 --> 01:02:22.239
one hundred thousand dollars of tuition debt. They're the ones

1071
01:02:22.280 --> 01:02:24.400
that are dealing with affordability. I mean, you got the

1072
01:02:24.440 --> 01:02:26.880
average person now forty years old, before they can buy

1073
01:02:26.920 --> 01:02:28.079
a home, but it's.

1074
01:02:27.920 --> 01:02:31.719
Their own fault that they're hamstrung with college debt. Don't

1075
01:02:31.719 --> 01:02:33.559
take on one hundred thousand debt if you're going to

1076
01:02:33.639 --> 01:02:37.679
study seventeenth century French poetry the way Andy McDowell studied

1077
01:02:37.719 --> 01:02:41.199
in Bill Murray's What was a Groundhog Day?

1078
01:02:41.320 --> 01:02:41.800
Yeah? Right?

1079
01:02:42.079 --> 01:02:46.159
And the other thing is, you know a lot of

1080
01:02:46.199 --> 01:02:49.559
these young people, you know, they're marching for LGBTQ. Even

1081
01:02:49.599 --> 01:02:52.079
if they are in LGBTQ, they're marching for hamas they're

1082
01:02:52.119 --> 01:02:55.840
marching for Palestine. They have no success, no stake in

1083
01:02:55.880 --> 01:03:00.880
the economy. Fifteen percent of young men in America have

1084
01:03:01.000 --> 01:03:05.159
no paycheck for a year. They have no connection to business, right,

1085
01:03:05.519 --> 01:03:07.719
and so a lot of these people they have nothing,

1086
01:03:08.119 --> 01:03:10.880
and so they latch onto these movements as something to

1087
01:03:10.960 --> 01:03:13.760
believe in. And it sounds so good. I think a

1088
01:03:13.760 --> 01:03:16.480
lot of it also is guy's looking for hot dates, Okay,

1089
01:03:16.639 --> 01:03:18.559
because she sounds so good? You want to share the

1090
01:03:18.599 --> 01:03:21.440
wealth the Democrat Party. I was just appalled, and I

1091
01:03:21.480 --> 01:03:25.079
was a lifelong registered Democrat until January appalled to see

1092
01:03:25.079 --> 01:03:28.800
their reaction bill to Elon Musk becoming the first trillionaire.

1093
01:03:29.320 --> 01:03:31.800
They were so upset as if his being a trillionaire

1094
01:03:31.880 --> 01:03:35.119
somehow took money away from me, and it did not.

1095
01:03:35.400 --> 01:03:38.559
It did no such thing. And guess what since that happened,

1096
01:03:38.679 --> 01:03:42.159
he's no longer a trillionaire. SpaceX stock fell, he's down

1097
01:03:42.280 --> 01:03:44.719
down to oh nine hundred and fifty billion, But you

1098
01:03:44.760 --> 01:03:47.559
don't see any stories on that. And the Democrats want

1099
01:03:47.599 --> 01:03:49.920
to tax him at that trillion dollar value, even if

1100
01:03:49.960 --> 01:03:52.039
he loses a lot of value in a given year,

1101
01:03:52.039 --> 01:03:54.079
if they'll still take five percent of whatever they can.

1102
01:03:54.320 --> 01:03:59.159
It's awful to see. And I just astonished that's such

1103
01:03:59.199 --> 01:04:02.800
stupid Paula can come from a party that I used

1104
01:04:02.800 --> 01:04:04.639
to think was kind of smart on some things.

1105
01:04:04.719 --> 01:04:06.920
Yeah, what they're missing here, Dennis, is the fact that

1106
01:04:07.280 --> 01:04:10.199
this enlarges the capacity, the size of the pie when

1107
01:04:10.239 --> 01:04:13.199
you have a trillionaire in the marketplace. It's like Michael

1108
01:04:13.239 --> 01:04:16.639
Jordan coming to the NBA, right, I mean, what did

1109
01:04:16.679 --> 01:04:18.519
it do for basketball? And for the rest of the players.

1110
01:04:18.559 --> 01:04:20.440
I mean, here's this guy that's right being paid a

1111
01:04:20.519 --> 01:04:23.760
gargantuis sum, and then the rest of the guys except

1112
01:04:23.760 --> 01:04:26.320
for you know, Scottie Pippen, but that's a whole other story.

1113
01:04:26.800 --> 01:04:29.079
He was, you know, he just had a bad negotiator.

1114
01:04:29.840 --> 01:04:31.760
But anyway, regardless.

1115
01:04:31.280 --> 01:04:35.440
But also, Bill, don't forget when SpaceX went public, four

1116
01:04:36.119 --> 01:04:40.800
four hundred employees became millionaires and they worked hard to

1117
01:04:40.880 --> 01:04:44.000
get it. Socialism wants to take it from them and

1118
01:04:44.079 --> 01:04:47.079
give it to people who have done nothing exactly. And

1119
01:04:47.119 --> 01:04:50.679
I just can't even believe that that's a good sales

1120
01:04:50.719 --> 01:04:53.800
pitch to these young people. They're just lost. And here's

1121
01:04:53.840 --> 01:04:57.079
what happens when we have thirty years of education K

1122
01:04:57.199 --> 01:05:01.719
through twelve and college utterly brainwaked them in liberal, stupidly

1123
01:05:01.760 --> 01:05:02.519
liberal ways.

1124
01:05:02.800 --> 01:05:06.440
Well, who doesn't want free but they think it's free,

1125
01:05:06.559 --> 01:05:09.599
But no, it costs, and they're going to find out

1126
01:05:09.639 --> 01:05:11.760
the hard way. You know. It's like I keep saying

1127
01:05:11.840 --> 01:05:15.039
on the show that gravity still exists, Dennis. You can

1128
01:05:15.119 --> 01:05:17.320
only defy it for so long, and you can hit

1129
01:05:17.360 --> 01:05:20.119
the ground only so many times before you know, bones

1130
01:05:20.199 --> 01:05:23.280
get seriously broken and you finally get tired of being injured.

1131
01:05:23.480 --> 01:05:25.840
But that's what socialism will do for you. It will

1132
01:05:25.880 --> 01:05:28.440
mediocritize you. You may think you're all that in a

1133
01:05:28.480 --> 01:05:30.599
bag of chips and welcome to the world of socialism.

1134
01:05:30.679 --> 01:05:32.760
Guess what, You're not even a bag.

1135
01:05:32.800 --> 01:05:36.880
Right, And here's another thing, though it's not a popular movement.

1136
01:05:37.480 --> 01:05:40.320
I looked at the numbers, and two of those Democrats

1137
01:05:40.360 --> 01:05:44.400
Socialist of America who are elected for congressional nominations in

1138
01:05:44.800 --> 01:05:48.960
Democrat nominations in New York City, they got eight percent

1139
01:05:49.719 --> 01:05:54.639
of the registered Democrat voters. Okay, that's you know, turnout

1140
01:05:54.679 --> 01:05:58.480
was low Democrat turnout seventeen percent. They got only eight

1141
01:05:58.519 --> 01:06:02.039
percent of the actual totaluer registered voters that they're representing.

1142
01:06:02.280 --> 01:06:04.559
That's what it took to get the Democratic nomination and

1143
01:06:04.599 --> 01:06:07.199
assure them pretty much a seat in Congress. And both

1144
01:06:07.239 --> 01:06:10.679
of them hate America and I can't even believe it.

1145
01:06:10.760 --> 01:06:13.239
It just shows, you know, there's a million Muslims in

1146
01:06:13.239 --> 01:06:16.400
New York City now, Yeah, twenty five years after nine

1147
01:06:16.440 --> 01:06:19.880
to eleven. Yeah, let's talk about let that happen. Yeah,

1148
01:06:20.000 --> 01:06:21.719
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Patriots we're talking With.

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Dennis, neil the best selling author and acclaimed. Journalist of,

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01:11:30.119 --> 01:11:33.279
course you, know you're exactly. Right the demography of our

1248
01:11:33.319 --> 01:11:35.680
country has changed, radically and there is no. Doubt four

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01:11:35.760 --> 01:11:39.680
years Under biden opened up the gates and we're flooded

1250
01:11:39.880 --> 01:11:42.199
with people that do not think like. Us they're not,

1251
01:11:42.479 --> 01:11:46.600
us they're Not, americans they're Anti. American you've got situations

1252
01:11:46.640 --> 01:11:48.760
like you AND i talked about the last time up In,

1253
01:11:48.840 --> 01:11:52.479
minneapolis where you've got eighty Thousand somalis that have changed

1254
01:11:52.520 --> 01:11:56.760
the demography and the politics not only Of minneapolis but

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01:11:56.880 --> 01:11:58.479
the entire. State, Dennis.

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01:11:58.680 --> 01:12:02.600
Yes and then the politicians welcome it and sucked up

1257
01:12:02.600 --> 01:12:05.000
to it because they think they're going to be able

1258
01:12:05.000 --> 01:12:06.359
to stay at the top of this and they don't

1259
01:12:06.399 --> 01:12:08.640
realize that these guys are going to come after you

1260
01:12:08.680 --> 01:12:11.079
and they're going to eat you. TOO i, mean it's

1261
01:12:11.239 --> 01:12:14.359
just it's just a. Mess and it shows you how

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01:12:14.439 --> 01:12:18.039
lost The Democrat party is because the only agenda they

1263
01:12:18.079 --> 01:12:21.520
have now is let's oppose anything and everything That trump

1264
01:12:21.840 --> 01:12:24.720
wants to. Do AND i don't really hear any kind

1265
01:12:24.720 --> 01:12:27.960
of platform from The democrats at. All they keep hammering on, affordability,

1266
01:12:28.000 --> 01:12:33.039
affordability but taxes take more out of your money than

1267
01:12:33.119 --> 01:12:36.279
any inflation rate In america ever has taken from your.

1268
01:12:36.319 --> 01:12:38.840
Money and they're doing nothing to try to cut back on,

1269
01:12:38.920 --> 01:12:39.760
taxes are? They The?

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01:12:39.800 --> 01:12:42.960
Democrats, well, no they just have more. Ideas and in

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01:12:43.079 --> 01:12:44.720
terms of what, happens you, know going to what you

1272
01:12:44.760 --> 01:12:48.039
were saying, earlier up until, recently until you, know you

1273
01:12:48.119 --> 01:12:52.119
have this socialism, rising it was all About trump Patron

1274
01:12:52.479 --> 01:12:56.079
but now the narrative is changing and they are talking

1275
01:12:56.119 --> 01:13:00.560
about you, know, affordability about free, buses you, know government

1276
01:13:00.680 --> 01:13:05.079
operated grocery, Stores medicare for, all and on and on

1277
01:13:05.239 --> 01:13:07.880
all these freebies that where in the heck are they

1278
01:13:07.880 --> 01:13:09.439
going to get the? MONEY i, Mean New york's already

1279
01:13:09.520 --> 01:13:11.800
virtually bankrupt right, now right.

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01:13:11.640 --> 01:13:13.720
And so you would, think, well what's the real? Plan

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01:13:13.800 --> 01:13:17.640
AND i think it's. True what is? It the rules for?

1282
01:13:17.720 --> 01:13:22.039
Radicals Saul Olinsky's rules For they are trying to overwhelm

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01:13:22.319 --> 01:13:24.720
the system here so that they can say we've got

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01:13:24.760 --> 01:13:26.800
to scrap it all and start over because the system's.

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01:13:26.800 --> 01:13:31.520
Overwhelmed it's Why biden let in twenty million and then

1286
01:13:32.079 --> 01:13:34.520
twenty million illegals who didn't follow the rules to come.

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01:13:34.560 --> 01:13:37.439
HERE i married A canadian. Woman. Okay it took us

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01:13:37.520 --> 01:13:41.960
two years to get approval for A k one visa

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01:13:42.119 --> 01:13:45.119
ninety day fiance, visa and then it took us two

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01:13:45.199 --> 01:13:49.000
years to get her a green card that lasted only two. Years,

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01:13:49.119 --> 01:13:51.479
okay that's what happens when you follow the. Rules, biden

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01:13:51.560 --> 01:13:54.199
let's send twenty, million ten, million twenty. Million it is

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01:13:54.199 --> 01:13:57.239
aimed at overwhelming the. System and then a district, judge

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01:13:57.319 --> 01:14:01.479
a federal, judge one of six hundred and seven in the,

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01:14:01.600 --> 01:14:05.079
nation rules, that, oh if you come here, illegally you're

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01:14:05.199 --> 01:14:09.399
required due process and, rights defendant rights and a hearing

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01:14:09.479 --> 01:14:12.079
before you can be forced out of the. Country, well,

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01:14:12.159 --> 01:14:15.680
luckily just the other day yesterday was a. University The

1299
01:14:15.680 --> 01:14:18.800
Supreme court came out and, said no, way they do

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01:14:18.920 --> 01:14:21.279
not get due, process that they come here. Illegally that

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01:14:21.439 --> 01:14:24.079
was an attempt to overwhelm the. System we would have

1302
01:14:24.159 --> 01:14:26.840
taken ten or twenty years to have to give court

1303
01:14:26.880 --> 01:14:29.479
hearings to every one of those twenty million illegals before

1304
01:14:29.479 --> 01:14:32.680
getting Exactle that's just. Crazy and it looks to me

1305
01:14:32.800 --> 01:14:36.000
like it was a blatant attempt to crush the, system

1306
01:14:36.039 --> 01:14:40.079
to overwhelm it and force an emergency replacement that is

1307
01:14:40.399 --> 01:14:43.720
socialist and. Communist that it seems like The democrats have

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01:14:43.880 --> 01:14:45.399
bared their true.

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01:14:45.399 --> 01:14:48.600
Colors now it's what they really. Have they've come out

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01:14:48.640 --> 01:14:50.640
of the. CLOSET i, mean this isn't. YOU i, mean

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01:14:50.680 --> 01:14:53.479
let's go back to that president that, said you, know

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01:14:53.640 --> 01:14:56.800
and talked about the fundamental transformation of our, country and

1313
01:14:56.840 --> 01:15:00.439
look what he. Did, Yeah and of course then you

1314
01:15:00.479 --> 01:15:03.239
get a pause With, trump but then he's in. There

1315
01:15:03.279 --> 01:15:05.640
he's in the ear Of Joe biden for four years

1316
01:15:06.039 --> 01:15:09.880
And god only knows What joe was discerning during that

1317
01:15:09.920 --> 01:15:12.239
period of. Time but look look what.

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01:15:12.399 --> 01:15:17.439
Happened, yeah, Yeah and you, know my mom is eighty

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01:15:17.479 --> 01:15:19.520
eight years old and she's seen a lot of history,

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01:15:19.560 --> 01:15:23.560
now and she, SAYS i cannot believe how close we

1321
01:15:23.640 --> 01:15:27.600
came to Losing america with The Obama biden, stuff and

1322
01:15:27.680 --> 01:15:29.880
Only trump stands in the. Way and she worries that

1323
01:15:29.920 --> 01:15:33.119
Once trump has, gone The Unit party will take. Over you,

1324
01:15:33.119 --> 01:15:36.199
know The republicans are just so, Lame they're so. Weak

1325
01:15:36.479 --> 01:15:40.479
The National Republican party should be throwing millions of dollars

1326
01:15:40.800 --> 01:15:45.960
At Christine Dresen republican nominee rematch In oregon for. Governor

1327
01:15:46.239 --> 01:15:50.119
Christine dresen has a shot to become the First republican

1328
01:15:50.199 --> 01:15:53.560
to be elected at governor At oregon since nineteen eighty,

1329
01:15:53.680 --> 01:15:57.000
two and The Republican party is nowhere to be. Found

1330
01:15:57.279 --> 01:16:00.359
she has almost no, money and yet She he's got

1331
01:16:00.399 --> 01:16:04.319
forty percent of The republican, vote and polls show that

1332
01:16:04.359 --> 01:16:07.600
The democrat governor running for a second, Term Tina, kotech

1333
01:16:08.239 --> 01:16:11.239
is in. Trouble even her own supporters in The portland,

1334
01:16:11.239 --> 01:16:14.840
area which she represented in the State house for fifteen,

1335
01:16:14.920 --> 01:16:18.319
years forty percent of them say they want to move

1336
01:16:18.359 --> 01:16:21.600
out in five, years and she's plunging in. Approval where

1337
01:16:21.680 --> 01:16:25.640
is The Republican, Party where is the State? Party just they're,

1338
01:16:25.720 --> 01:16:28.880
weak they're so used to being number. Two, Right we're

1339
01:16:28.920 --> 01:16:31.640
just In, Washington you're just you're Exactly you're exactly. Right

1340
01:16:31.880 --> 01:16:35.279
they're they're used to losing and they don't know about.

1341
01:16:35.319 --> 01:16:37.720
Winning that's Why trump, is you, know such a breath

1342
01:16:37.720 --> 01:16:41.119
of fresh air and freaking them out because you, know

1343
01:16:41.159 --> 01:16:42.720
and he ever once in a while will, ask, well

1344
01:16:42.760 --> 01:16:43.359
are you tired of?

1345
01:16:43.399 --> 01:16:45.600
Winning you? Know and the thing is is that to

1346
01:16:45.640 --> 01:16:50.000
your point regarding the backing of this candidate they're in

1347
01:16:50.079 --> 01:16:53.479
the in The, northwest is that it's not like THE

1348
01:16:53.680 --> 01:16:58.600
rnc doesn't have. Money they're loaded with money right. Now, Dennis, yeah, Yeah.

1349
01:16:58.399 --> 01:16:59.439
And Maybe i'm the naive.

1350
01:16:59.479 --> 01:16:59.600
One.

1351
01:16:59.600 --> 01:17:02.079
Okay i've only read a book on written a book On,

1352
01:17:02.119 --> 01:17:04.680
oregon And i've interviewed a lot of the people. There

1353
01:17:04.680 --> 01:17:07.720
BUT i just think they're overlooking, it you. Know And

1354
01:17:08.119 --> 01:17:12.159
christine Dresen, IS i, mean she's not a fantastic, candidate

1355
01:17:12.439 --> 01:17:16.880
but you, know there's been a total lack of testosterone

1356
01:17:16.960 --> 01:17:20.520
And oregon politics for ten or twenty years. Now it

1357
01:17:20.520 --> 01:17:22.720
seems like it's all. Women you're not going to get

1358
01:17:22.720 --> 01:17:24.880
a man. Elected you. Know the six foot eleven inch

1359
01:17:24.960 --> 01:17:32.479
tall FORMER nba Player chris Phil in second name, here you,

1360
01:17:32.520 --> 01:17:36.119
know he trailed far vastly behind. Her AND i met

1361
01:17:36.159 --> 01:17:40.439
the guy at A republican conference in The oregon a

1362
01:17:40.439 --> 01:17:42.720
few months, ago and, man you, know your hand just

1363
01:17:42.760 --> 01:17:45.680
disappears into his huge hand of a, hand you, know

1364
01:17:45.920 --> 01:17:48.399
but he's got way too much testosterone to get elected In.

1365
01:17:48.439 --> 01:17:51.560
Oregon you, Know oregon had these two political scandals back

1366
01:17:51.600 --> 01:17:55.079
to back with. Senators, right one of, Them Bob, packwood

1367
01:17:55.199 --> 01:17:58.439
just recently Died rest in, peace you, know sexual harassment

1368
01:17:58.439 --> 01:18:00.680
and the office. Stuff but then this guy who was

1369
01:18:00.720 --> 01:18:04.520
at Hat, field you know for years he had an underage,

1370
01:18:04.640 --> 01:18:08.279
girlfriend a teenage, girl and all of the power brokers

1371
01:18:08.359 --> 01:18:13.640
knew about. It and this fantastic journalist for The Willamet

1372
01:18:13.800 --> 01:18:16.960
week wrote a big expose a years later saying how

1373
01:18:17.079 --> 01:18:19.119
is it that this was allowed to? Exist and he

1374
01:18:19.199 --> 01:18:21.279
won A Pulitzer prize for.

1375
01:18:21.399 --> 01:18:23.439
It damn.

1376
01:18:23.439 --> 01:18:27.000
It fantastic GUY i interviewed for the. Book but with

1377
01:18:27.039 --> 01:18:30.800
those two sex scandals involving these male heterosexual, leaders you

1378
01:18:30.880 --> 01:18:34.520
now have women running. Everything you, Know Tina kotec is

1379
01:18:34.520 --> 01:18:39.239
the first or second openly lesbian woman to win the

1380
01:18:39.279 --> 01:18:41.760
governor of governorship in THE, us et, cetera et. Cetera

1381
01:18:42.119 --> 01:18:44.920
so they could use a little. Testosterone because the problem

1382
01:18:44.960 --> 01:18:47.520
with The Democrat, party AND i saw this from this

1383
01:18:48.000 --> 01:18:51.079
black woman scholar who was putting it forth out ON

1384
01:18:51.439 --> 01:18:56.880
x is that it's turned female, feminine it's identifying with

1385
01:18:56.920 --> 01:18:59.520
all the help the, poor all of these really soft,

1386
01:18:59.520 --> 01:19:02.800
stuff instead of protect our, borders be, strong you, know

1387
01:19:02.880 --> 01:19:07.840
wipe Out iran, government the, worst most murderous government in modern. History,

1388
01:19:07.920 --> 01:19:12.279
okay and yet The democrats are against the attacks on a.

1389
01:19:12.359 --> 01:19:14.960
RUN i, MEAN i can't even believe. It You democrats

1390
01:19:14.960 --> 01:19:18.479
in one hundred and seventy five billion dollars to Freaking

1391
01:19:18.680 --> 01:19:23.600
ukraine with no restrictions at, all Helping ukraine extend the

1392
01:19:23.640 --> 01:19:26.800
war Against. Russia but now you're balking because eighty billion

1393
01:19:26.840 --> 01:19:32.479
dollars is too much to spend on neutering the most terrorist. Government.

1394
01:19:33.039 --> 01:19:36.119
EXACTLY i, mean what shame on, them, Man but it

1395
01:19:36.199 --> 01:19:38.960
was wrong with. Them they've gone, crazy and It's trump

1396
01:19:39.159 --> 01:19:41.039
that drove them. Crazy well.

1397
01:19:41.359 --> 01:19:43.359
Exactly, Well Dennis, neel we got a couple of minutes left.

1398
01:19:43.359 --> 01:19:46.239
HERE i want to get your, spin spend your your

1399
01:19:46.479 --> 01:19:50.640
idea on the Latest scotish decisions on birthright.

1400
01:19:50.680 --> 01:19:54.520
Citizenship you, know this court is so in some ways

1401
01:19:54.520 --> 01:19:57.960
inconsistent and uneven, right and you get the feeling there's

1402
01:19:58.000 --> 01:20:00.920
horse trading going. Along, look we're going to Give trump

1403
01:20:00.960 --> 01:20:04.199
a victory on this. One but let's humiliate him on this, one,

1404
01:20:04.399 --> 01:20:07.960
okay because and The conservative majority quote, unquote because three

1405
01:20:07.960 --> 01:20:11.680
of those Six conservatives just are really moderates and their

1406
01:20:11.680 --> 01:20:15.720
turncoats And Chief roberts is the worst among. Them, okay all,

1407
01:20:15.800 --> 01:20:20.439
Right so on one, hand they, Say, trump you have

1408
01:20:20.520 --> 01:20:23.479
the power now to say you're fired to all these

1409
01:20:23.520 --> 01:20:27.399
independent agency, heads which The democrats. Assisted was. Wrong, well

1410
01:20:27.399 --> 01:20:29.319
now he can go ahead and get rid of, people

1411
01:20:29.399 --> 01:20:32.840
and that's the executive. Branch that's a good ruling. Exactly

1412
01:20:32.840 --> 01:20:34.920
but at the same, time another ruling, says but you

1413
01:20:35.039 --> 01:20:38.840
can't fire a member of This Fed, committee another autonomous.

1414
01:20:38.880 --> 01:20:43.000
Agency so they give they taketh, away right they what

1415
01:20:43.079 --> 01:20:44.479
else did they? Do they gave them another.

1416
01:20:45.359 --> 01:20:47.800
Victory well you got the, headline you got the.

1417
01:20:48.680 --> 01:20:51.119
Women AND i was just saying just the other. Day

1418
01:20:51.359 --> 01:20:55.199
at the same, time they refuse to review the ridiculous

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01:20:55.319 --> 01:20:58.439
five million dollar verdict awarded in favor of this E

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Gene carroll, Woman, yes who is accused of making up

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her rape story In burgdors from an episode Of law And.

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Order it's exactly, parallel, Okay and who once told what's?

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That see? It in anchor their who's got the famous

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mother Of cooper's out told, him you, know you're fascinating

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to talk. To and she told them that rape is

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really kind of. Sexy, yeah, yeah just. Incredible and so

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they turn that down so they don't look Like trump, shills,

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okay and so they give if they take it. Away but,

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man that's a ridiculous. Ruling maybe they weren't able to

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review it under legal precedent or, something but what a ridiculous.

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Ruling and it's all Against. Trump what's going to happen

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When trump Leaves? Bill, yeah what's going to? Happen The

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democrats won't be able to quit?

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Them, no not going to be in, charge right. Exactly,

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well that's a scary. Thought but you, know fortunately The

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democrats are doing everything they can to make themselves unworthy

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of any kind of leadership. Position Hopefully america is what

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what's going? On, Dennis we got to leave it there

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is always appreciate the. Time he's the best selling author

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and acclaimed, Journalist Dennis. Neil thank, You. Dennis take carey

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Patriots, hey good, Morning welcome Back Bill martinez here along

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with the FORMER nflqb And ministry leader and author of

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The one And Only Jeff. Kain, Hey, jeff how are we.

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01:25:59.479 --> 01:26:00.199
Doing, Buddy i'm.

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01:26:00.239 --> 01:26:00.960
Good how are, You?

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01:26:01.039 --> 01:26:06.359
Bill, Hey i'm doing terrific interesting topic in light of you,

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01:26:06.359 --> 01:26:10.079
know artificial intelligence and so much stuff that's coming our

1515
01:26:10.079 --> 01:26:13.279
way THAT i, Mean, jeff it wasn't that long ago

1516
01:26:13.399 --> 01:26:16.840
we were warning, people you, know make sure the information

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01:26:16.920 --> 01:26:20.920
that you're getting is. Legit and, now more than, ever

1518
01:26:20.960 --> 01:26:25.640
it's like this tsunami of, counterfeit you, know personages and

1519
01:26:26.159 --> 01:26:29.920
ideas and everything that are flooding us and flooding our.

1520
01:26:29.960 --> 01:26:33.359
Minds and it serves as a caution to the young

1521
01:26:33.359 --> 01:26:38.079
people especially that are embracing you, Know internet and artificial,

1522
01:26:38.119 --> 01:26:43.840
intelligence and we're, saying, hey slow, down be careful because

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01:26:44.199 --> 01:26:47.520
you need to enter into that with a filter of.

1524
01:26:47.560 --> 01:26:48.640
Discernment do you, Not.

1525
01:26:49.239 --> 01:26:52.439
Oh, Yeah I'm technology is meant to be a. TOOL

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01:26:53.720 --> 01:26:57.399
a tool is meant to help you accomplish something, valuable

1527
01:26:58.119 --> 01:27:00.520
and you need to think ahead of, time what is

1528
01:27:00.560 --> 01:27:03.920
the valuable thing that you want to accomplish in your.

1529
01:27:03.960 --> 01:27:08.359
Life at the end of people's, lives they've checked, with you,

1530
01:27:08.399 --> 01:27:13.039
know thousands of. People did you wish you'd gone to work,

1531
01:27:13.079 --> 01:27:15.680
more did you wish you got more, money did you

1532
01:27:15.760 --> 01:27:18.800
wish you had more, stuff or did you wish you

1533
01:27:18.880 --> 01:27:22.479
focused on. Relationships do you wish you'd spent more time

1534
01:27:22.479 --> 01:27:25.359
with your? Family do you wish you'd said everything you

1535
01:27:25.399 --> 01:27:27.239
needed to say to your dad or your, mom or

1536
01:27:27.239 --> 01:27:31.079
your son or your, daughter to your? Spouse so use

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01:27:31.199 --> 01:27:37.279
technology to strengthen your performance in things important to, you

1538
01:27:37.359 --> 01:27:42.119
relationships and doing your. Job, okay but what's happening is

1539
01:27:42.399 --> 01:27:47.880
these things and the iPad screen and the portal to

1540
01:27:48.840 --> 01:27:54.840
social media and NOW ai false, life false, information false.

1541
01:27:54.880 --> 01:28:02.520
Percentages as you, said we're replacing relationship with self, crafted

1542
01:28:02.680 --> 01:28:09.359
algorithm driven pleasurable videos and memes and you, know chat about.

1543
01:28:09.760 --> 01:28:15.840
People they're not just chat but. Personages and we're losing

1544
01:28:15.880 --> 01:28:18.399
friendship and all the research that says that we are

1545
01:28:18.479 --> 01:28:21.600
losing time, eyeball the, eyeball shoulders shoulder men like the

1546
01:28:21.640 --> 01:28:26.560
shoulders shoulder. Stuff, yes conversation with friends and all the

1547
01:28:26.600 --> 01:28:31.039
healthy stuff that comes from being known and knowing someone

1548
01:28:31.039 --> 01:28:33.880
else and exactly accepting.

1549
01:28:33.880 --> 01:28:33.960
You.

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01:28:34.600 --> 01:28:39.359
Yeah one of my favorite counselors for, Marriages Emerson. Egrits

1551
01:28:39.439 --> 01:28:44.560
you probably know. That. Awesome he talks about. Connection connection

1552
01:28:44.720 --> 01:28:48.960
is so vital to. Relationship and so the thing is

1553
01:28:48.960 --> 01:28:53.119
is THAT i think we're. Built we're, Designed god designed

1554
01:28:53.159 --> 01:28:57.000
us in a way that begs IF i might, say for,

1555
01:28:57.159 --> 01:29:00.720
relationship we need that, Connection we need that cannection with him,

1556
01:29:00.840 --> 01:29:05.199
especially but with one. Another so it really forms across

1557
01:29:05.479 --> 01:29:08.479
because vertically is you, know the vertical pillar that goes

1558
01:29:08.560 --> 01:29:12.600
up to him and the horizontal goes out to others

1559
01:29:11.840 --> 01:29:16.840
in our. Orbit and whenever that's out of, whack we

1560
01:29:16.920 --> 01:29:19.079
may not even, realize Because, jeff it can be so,

1561
01:29:19.279 --> 01:29:23.159
subtle but it's enough to kind of turn our world

1562
01:29:23.199 --> 01:29:24.840
topsy turby and confuse.

1563
01:29:24.920 --> 01:29:29.039
Us, Right, Yeah my wife AND i were benefiting On

1564
01:29:29.119 --> 01:29:32.560
sunday from a sermon By Pastor Tim calwell at our

1565
01:29:32.960 --> 01:29:37.439
church And Little, rock and he basically taught On jonathan

1566
01:29:37.520 --> 01:29:41.960
And david from The Old testament passages about their friendship

1567
01:29:42.039 --> 01:29:47.119
which lasted for ten years during their late teens to late.

1568
01:29:47.159 --> 01:29:51.119
Twenties and this was mostly during the time When david

1569
01:29:51.239 --> 01:29:54.520
was yet to be, king but was supposed to be

1570
01:29:54.560 --> 01:29:58.479
the king by, prediction But jonathan was the one in

1571
01:29:58.560 --> 01:30:02.119
line as the natural air to be the next king

1572
01:30:02.159 --> 01:30:08.079
after his father saw And tim pointed out some things

1573
01:30:08.239 --> 01:30:10.800
about their. Friendship first of, all they had a deep

1574
01:30:10.880 --> 01:30:14.039
bond and affection for each. Other, secondly they expressed. It

1575
01:30:14.159 --> 01:30:16.600
they used their words to say you're important to. Me,

1576
01:30:17.680 --> 01:30:23.680
thirdly they made a covenant vow of loyalty and. Commitment and,

1577
01:30:23.800 --> 01:30:29.079
Fourth david took off his chest protector, peace and his

1578
01:30:29.359 --> 01:30:33.560
belt and he gave his sword and all of that To,

1579
01:30:33.680 --> 01:30:35.880
jonathan his. Friend he gave some of his most valuable

1580
01:30:35.920 --> 01:30:39.680
weapons to his. Friend, now you wouldn't expect a friend

1581
01:30:39.680 --> 01:30:41.560
to immediately hurt you with a. Sword but if you

1582
01:30:41.600 --> 01:30:44.720
think of your honesty and your disclosure and your story

1583
01:30:44.800 --> 01:30:47.239
and who you really, are your weaknesses and, faults your,

1584
01:30:47.239 --> 01:30:50.840
fears if you give that to a, friend you're taking a. Risk,

1585
01:30:50.960 --> 01:30:53.720
right they could burn you with. It they could hurt

1586
01:30:53.760 --> 01:30:55.479
you with. It they could look down on you maybe with,

1587
01:30:55.520 --> 01:30:59.800
it or if they still accept, you it booies you,

1588
01:30:59.800 --> 01:31:02.880
in strengthens, you and you are even less weak in

1589
01:31:02.880 --> 01:31:05.319
those areas because you're being honest with. Them so that

1590
01:31:05.439 --> 01:31:08.479
was a great example that you take the valuable things

1591
01:31:08.479 --> 01:31:10.159
of who you really are and give them to your.

1592
01:31:10.199 --> 01:31:14.960
Friend and then the other thing he pointed out was

1593
01:31:15.399 --> 01:31:19.760
That jonathan was so humble he lifted up his Friend

1594
01:31:19.880 --> 01:31:24.079
david and Supported david becoming the next king over. Himself,

1595
01:31:24.640 --> 01:31:27.319
right he knew that was his best. Interest that's.

1596
01:31:27.359 --> 01:31:32.920
Amazing, well it's. Huge and the thing is it's. Revelatory

1597
01:31:33.960 --> 01:31:37.600
you know he Got, JONATHAN i believe got that message

1598
01:31:37.640 --> 01:31:43.159
From god because it was prophesied That david was to be. King,

1599
01:31:43.880 --> 01:31:46.720
now whether or Not jonathan was fully aware of, THAT

1600
01:31:47.199 --> 01:31:50.319
i don't think The bible clears that up, necessarily but

1601
01:31:50.479 --> 01:31:53.359
his actions. Demonstrate, see we can always look at the,

1602
01:31:53.399 --> 01:31:55.800
fruit just like you pointed, out look at the fruit

1603
01:31:56.520 --> 01:32:01.000
of one's belief in their. Worldview world view was such

1604
01:32:01.319 --> 01:32:05.439
that he was very, Humble he was VERY i get

1605
01:32:05.520 --> 01:32:11.279
yielding to his friend and to a higher calling that

1606
01:32:11.880 --> 01:32:14.720
in and of his. Flesh anybody else would have, said, heck, no,

1607
01:32:14.920 --> 01:32:18.159
man it's good to be. King i'm in. Line it's

1608
01:32:18.279 --> 01:32:20.720
mine and you re throughout The bible time and, again

1609
01:32:20.800 --> 01:32:23.560
even When solomon became, king his brother wanted to be.

1610
01:32:23.680 --> 01:32:30.479
King, Right, Yeah, jonathan he Saw david Defeat, goliath and

1611
01:32:30.520 --> 01:32:33.319
instead of being, jealous he saw That god's hand was

1612
01:32:33.359 --> 01:32:36.159
on this. Man there was an anointing On, david and

1613
01:32:36.199 --> 01:32:36.920
he supported.

1614
01:32:36.920 --> 01:32:37.000
It.

1615
01:32:37.119 --> 01:32:39.560
Right and, then even though you said he was humble

1616
01:32:39.560 --> 01:32:45.199
and meek and submitted To david's future king, Role jonathan

1617
01:32:45.279 --> 01:32:47.279
was courageous as. Heck he stood up to his. Dad

1618
01:32:47.359 --> 01:32:49.880
his dad threw a spear at him because he was

1619
01:32:49.920 --> 01:32:52.800
so angry At, david and he was angry At jonathan

1620
01:32:52.840 --> 01:32:56.680
for being friends With. David And david stood up to

1621
01:32:56.720 --> 01:33:00.520
his dad and, Said david doesn't mean harm by he's

1622
01:33:00.560 --> 01:33:02.319
a good. Man don't go after him. Dead and then

1623
01:33:02.359 --> 01:33:05.920
he went and protected. Him so all that is really.

1624
01:33:05.960 --> 01:33:09.680
Amazing but think of. This david became a great, king

1625
01:33:10.479 --> 01:33:12.680
but he was vulnerable when he didn't have his Friend.

1626
01:33:12.800 --> 01:33:17.399
Jonathan jonathan wasn't alive. Anymore at the point at Which

1627
01:33:17.479 --> 01:33:20.199
david let the army go out soldiering and he didn't

1628
01:33:20.239 --> 01:33:22.880
go with, him he stayed in isolation back at the.

1629
01:33:23.039 --> 01:33:26.560
Palace and that's when the temptation to look At bethsheba

1630
01:33:26.920 --> 01:33:29.840
and then steal her and then get her husband. Killed

1631
01:33:30.239 --> 01:33:32.359
all that happened when he didn't have his. Friends so

1632
01:33:32.800 --> 01:33:36.760
the bottom line That Pastor tim gave us was get

1633
01:33:36.760 --> 01:33:41.119
committed to your friendships and spend an. Hour he spends

1634
01:33:41.159 --> 01:33:44.640
one hour every week in a deep conversation about his

1635
01:33:44.760 --> 01:33:48.159
life and his friend's life with other. Friends that's exactly

1636
01:33:48.159 --> 01:33:51.600
WHAT i do in The verbi call, huddling AND i

1637
01:33:51.680 --> 01:33:54.239
do with two other. Guys But tim made it so.

1638
01:33:54.319 --> 01:33:57.920
Simple do you talk for forty five minutes an hour

1639
01:33:58.399 --> 01:34:02.079
every week about what's it's important in your life with

1640
01:34:02.119 --> 01:34:05.079
your closest friend or Two AND i can help men

1641
01:34:05.159 --> 01:34:07.319
and women do, that ALTHOUGH i tailor a lot of

1642
01:34:07.319 --> 01:34:11.119
my language to men At, menhole but that's my. Takeaway

1643
01:34:11.479 --> 01:34:14.119
commit to a, friend Ask god who it should, be

1644
01:34:14.399 --> 01:34:18.359
maybe a, couple and then spend thirty, minutes forty, minutes

1645
01:34:18.439 --> 01:34:20.640
maybe an hour every, week put it on the, calendar

1646
01:34:21.039 --> 01:34:23.039
and talk about everything important in your life.

1647
01:34:23.640 --> 01:34:26.520
Exactly you, know when WHEN i was growing, up particularly

1648
01:34:26.560 --> 01:34:28.279
in my, age maybe a little bit in yours Because

1649
01:34:28.319 --> 01:34:30.680
i'm a little bit older than, You, jeff you, know

1650
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the slogan was get real, Man it's time to get, real,

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Right AND i think that in your generation you had

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something similar to that as. Well but here it's interesting

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that that has not. Receded the need for reality is still,

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there and we're being presented a False god THROUGH ai

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and all these other, channels and it's, like, okay there's

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an exchange. Here you can spend forty five minutes on you,

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know social, media which is not all that. Real it's more.

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Amusement which means without your, mind or you can invest

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it with other men and do something of value that

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Right, yeah it's it's it's, entertainment it's, scrolling it's, distraction

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it's numbing, yourself which leads to isolation and more. Loneliness,

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yes or it's, actual real. Relationship AND i think the

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word relationship is not as robust for men as a

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phones are distracting us from.

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It, yeah there you go one more. Time jeff the

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email the website.

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To men huddle dot, com men huddle dot.

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for you ladies and, Gentlemen i'm surely for you. Guys

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check it. Out thank, You, jeff take, Care Thanks.

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Com, hey welcome Back. America Bill martinez, Here good to

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have you with. Us it's great to Have Zach medler

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back with us with The Daily citizen and focus on

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the family and a great documentary to talk About faith In. America, Hey,

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01:40:34.640 --> 01:40:36.079
zach welcome. Back good to have you with.

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01:40:36.159 --> 01:40:38.039
Us Hey, bill good to speak with. You thanks for

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having me back on.

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01:40:39.159 --> 01:40:41.560
Well how much Fun faith In america just in time

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01:40:41.600 --> 01:40:43.439
for our two one hundred and fiftieth must have been

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01:40:43.439 --> 01:40:45.600
a lot of fun putting it. Together you wrote, it

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01:40:45.720 --> 01:40:50.560
you narrated, it you cleaned up, afterwards and everything you

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01:40:50.600 --> 01:40:50.920
were all.

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01:40:50.960 --> 01:40:51.119
In.

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01:40:52.039 --> 01:40:53.399
WELL i didn't do the whole. THING i had a,

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01:40:53.399 --> 01:40:56.359
great great guy who was helping me edit the video for,

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01:40:56.399 --> 01:40:58.399
It but, yeah you're. RIGHT i wanted to create this

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01:40:58.479 --> 01:41:03.159
special documentary Called faith In america really to examine just

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01:41:03.199 --> 01:41:06.479
our Nation's christian. FOUNDING i think if you ask anybody

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01:41:06.479 --> 01:41:09.680
on the street kind of Was america founded as A christian,

1770
01:41:09.760 --> 01:41:13.239
NATION i think you're going to find really polarized ANSWERS

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01:41:13.279 --> 01:41:15.319
i think on both sides of that. Questions and so

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01:41:15.800 --> 01:41:17.920
really in time for the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary,

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01:41:17.960 --> 01:41:19.800
HERE i wanted to really just take a look at

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01:41:19.840 --> 01:41:23.239
what is the honest history and the real history behind our,

1775
01:41:23.319 --> 01:41:26.840
nation what Impacted christianity have on our, founding and how

1776
01:41:26.840 --> 01:41:30.960
can we As christians really get involved in helping to number,

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01:41:30.960 --> 01:41:34.279
one remember our, history remember the just massive contributions That

1778
01:41:34.359 --> 01:41:37.199
Christian christianity And christian people have had on our. Nation

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01:41:37.640 --> 01:41:40.199
and how Can christians get involved in politics? Today so

1780
01:41:40.239 --> 01:41:43.199
that was really the primary goal of This faith In america,

1781
01:41:43.279 --> 01:41:46.199
documentary which you can find on The Daily citizen dot,

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01:41:46.319 --> 01:41:47.880
org or you can go to YouTube right now and

1783
01:41:47.920 --> 01:41:50.439
just Search faith In america and it should pop right up.

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01:41:51.159 --> 01:41:54.199
Exactly AND i highly recommend that because it'll get the

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01:41:54.199 --> 01:41:59.039
conversation going and help. You you, know, REALLY i, guess

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01:41:59.119 --> 01:42:03.159
research yourself in your position about how you feel about,

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01:42:03.199 --> 01:42:07.239
faith your faith and its contribution Had america had For,

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01:42:07.279 --> 01:42:12.359
america because without, faith you wouldn't Have. AMERICA i, mean

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01:42:12.359 --> 01:42:15.560
that's the bottom line and my my humble, Opinion, zach

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01:42:15.560 --> 01:42:18.199
because you, KNOW i was just reading a. Survey, here

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01:42:18.680 --> 01:42:21.199
here's where we are, today and this is why this

1792
01:42:21.279 --> 01:42:24.640
film is so. Important it's a forty six percent Of

1793
01:42:24.720 --> 01:42:31.520
americans don't KNOW us. History they don't know above, faith

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01:42:31.560 --> 01:42:34.680
they don't know above the seat of. Faith you, know

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01:42:34.760 --> 01:42:37.720
half of the. Country it's no wonder that we're at

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01:42:37.800 --> 01:42:41.000
each other's. Throats and you, know for people of, faith

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01:42:41.560 --> 01:42:45.640
THEY i guess this would encourage them to know that

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01:42:45.760 --> 01:42:50.199
they know and to have some confidence that you, Know

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01:42:50.399 --> 01:42:53.119
america would not have happened without.

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01:42:53.159 --> 01:42:56.399
Faith that's one hundred percent. Correct and you, know just

1801
01:42:56.840 --> 01:42:59.079
a few weeks ago we had that rededicate to fifty

1802
01:42:59.119 --> 01:43:01.960
event on Ant National mall and you had Speaker Mike johnson.

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01:43:02.039 --> 01:43:04.720
There he gave a great prayer saying our rights come

1804
01:43:04.760 --> 01:43:07.119
from From god and not from. Government and then JUST

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01:43:07.199 --> 01:43:09.960
i think that day or the day, after POTENTIALLY i

1806
01:43:10.039 --> 01:43:13.720
had MS now Host Katie turaska guest on her. Show she, said,

1807
01:43:13.880 --> 01:43:16.399
well why what is this From Speaker johnson saying that

1808
01:43:16.399 --> 01:43:19.079
our rights come From god not? Government she, said is

1809
01:43:19.159 --> 01:43:24.279
this him Putting god over The declaration Of? Independence and

1810
01:43:24.560 --> 01:43:28.239
anybody who knows anything about The declaration knows that he

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01:43:28.319 --> 01:43:30.840
was just quoting from. It, right we hold these truths self,

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01:43:30.840 --> 01:43:33.119
evident that all men are created, equal that they are

1813
01:43:33.199 --> 01:43:37.479
endowed by their creator with certain unalienable. Rights Speaker johnson

1814
01:43:37.560 --> 01:43:40.520
was quoting from The. Declaration he, wasn't you, know Putting

1815
01:43:40.560 --> 01:43:42.920
god over. It SO i think that that event really

1816
01:43:43.000 --> 01:43:46.279
highlights just the ignorance that we find among the much

1817
01:43:46.319 --> 01:43:50.199
of the, media much of, academia a lot of our.

1818
01:43:50.199 --> 01:43:53.520
Politicians they just don't Know america's, history or they they

1819
01:43:53.560 --> 01:43:55.319
have learned it and they know, it and they just

1820
01:43:55.359 --> 01:43:57.119
don't care and they want to tell a different. STORY

1821
01:43:57.159 --> 01:43:59.520
i think that's that's an option. Too but you, know

1822
01:43:59.560 --> 01:44:05.239
when we look at A christianity singularly played a indispensable

1823
01:44:05.279 --> 01:44:08.039
and vital role in the formation of our of our.

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01:44:08.119 --> 01:44:11.920
Nation The bible was by far the number one source

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01:44:12.000 --> 01:44:14.359
that was cited by our founding fathers in the creation

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01:44:14.479 --> 01:44:18.640
of our. Nation it wasn't Different enlightenment thinkers Or enlightenment.

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01:44:18.640 --> 01:44:22.800
Philosophy it was scripture that was confirmed By Donald. Lutz

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01:44:22.840 --> 01:44:25.239
he did a, study i think in the twentieth century confirming.

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01:44:25.279 --> 01:44:28.880
That and then you have you, know Especially genesis chapter.

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01:44:28.920 --> 01:44:32.680
One you, know we find That genesis chapter one where

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01:44:32.680 --> 01:44:35.359
we find that men are created In god's, image that

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01:44:35.640 --> 01:44:39.680
doctrine because of The Judeo christian environment and history and

1833
01:44:39.720 --> 01:44:44.199
tradition of the, colonies that is why they put in

1834
01:44:44.239 --> 01:44:46.640
the declaration that our rights come From, god not from,

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01:44:46.680 --> 01:44:49.920
government and that we are endowed with these rights prior

1836
01:44:49.960 --> 01:44:52.399
to any government. Existing they come From. God that comes

1837
01:44:52.439 --> 01:44:55.840
straight From genesis chapter. One and we have to remember

1838
01:44:55.840 --> 01:44:58.319
that as. Well and then you, know especially going back

1839
01:44:58.439 --> 01:45:01.479
even before the, founding going back to sixteen oh seven

1840
01:45:01.560 --> 01:45:05.319
and sixteen, Twenty Reverend hunt came over To america's shores

1841
01:45:05.359 --> 01:45:07.439
in sixteen oh seven and the very first thing that

1842
01:45:07.479 --> 01:45:11.560
he in one hundred and Five english settlers did was

1843
01:45:11.680 --> 01:45:14.560
that they got off the boat and they bowed their

1844
01:45:14.600 --> 01:45:17.159
heads and they, prayed and they asked For god to

1845
01:45:17.279 --> 01:45:20.399
bless their efforts to bring The gospel to a new.

1846
01:45:20.479 --> 01:45:23.039
Land that was their purpose in coming. Here and then

1847
01:45:23.199 --> 01:45:26.560
the pilgrim's coming over obviously for religious freedom in sixteen

1848
01:45:26.600 --> 01:45:30.399
twenty trying to live out Their christian faith apart from

1849
01:45:30.439 --> 01:45:32.960
the Official church Of. England you, know we in our

1850
01:45:32.960 --> 01:45:35.399
documentary we spoke With Michelle bachman and she ran for

1851
01:45:35.439 --> 01:45:37.600
president in twenty twelve and she said this so. Well she,

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01:45:37.640 --> 01:45:40.600
said you, Know america didn't start in seventeen seventy. Six

1853
01:45:40.800 --> 01:45:43.279
we started in sixteen twenty and sixteen oh seven when

1854
01:45:43.319 --> 01:45:45.600
these people came and founded our. Country and so we

1855
01:45:45.680 --> 01:45:48.920
have to remember That america absolutely has a Distinctly christian

1856
01:45:49.000 --> 01:45:52.800
founding even before The Revolutionary. War these Were christian people

1857
01:45:52.800 --> 01:45:54.720
who came to our shores and wanted to live out

1858
01:45:54.760 --> 01:45:58.119
their faith in in a brand new, world a brand new.

1859
01:45:58.159 --> 01:46:00.399
Way and that's what we really looked at with our.

1860
01:46:00.399 --> 01:46:04.520
Documentary you, Know Dean bachmann was exactly. Right but you

1861
01:46:04.560 --> 01:46:09.000
could actually precede that roll back the tape maybe ten

1862
01:46:09.079 --> 01:46:12.079
twelve years when you had The pilgrims and you had

1863
01:46:13.039 --> 01:46:17.479
religious persecuted individuals praying To, god calling out To. God

1864
01:46:17.560 --> 01:46:20.760
so the seeds of faith were, planted you, know decades

1865
01:46:20.880 --> 01:46:24.760
prior to the landing in sixteen oh. Five but the

1866
01:46:24.840 --> 01:46:29.840
acknowledgment then was That god was answering their, prayer and

1867
01:46:29.880 --> 01:46:34.119
they were acknowledging that and Asking, God, okay you brought us,

1868
01:46:34.119 --> 01:46:36.840
here take us to the next. Step give us the

1869
01:46:36.960 --> 01:46:40.279
wisdom and the courage that is required to take the

1870
01:46:40.319 --> 01:46:44.199
next bold, step because here we are thousands of miles

1871
01:46:44.239 --> 01:46:48.159
away from anything that we've known traditionally and our, families

1872
01:46:48.239 --> 01:46:51.640
and we've come here for the sole purpose to find

1873
01:46:51.880 --> 01:46:54.119
a new world where we could Honor.

1874
01:46:54.239 --> 01:46:57.760
God, yeah that's exactly, right and that's so important for

1875
01:46:57.840 --> 01:47:01.640
us to remember of how our nation was, founded are

1876
01:47:01.840 --> 01:47:04.239
how the early early, colonists how they lived out their,

1877
01:47:04.239 --> 01:47:06.600
faith they wanted to live out their, faith and again

1878
01:47:06.680 --> 01:47:09.319
all of that laid the groundwork for The. Declaration so

1879
01:47:09.840 --> 01:47:12.960
when we look at The American, founding our governing, documents

1880
01:47:13.000 --> 01:47:16.079
THE Us, constitution those didn't just come out of. Nowhere

1881
01:47:16.119 --> 01:47:19.720
they came out of This Judeo christian tradition of the early,

1882
01:47:19.760 --> 01:47:23.239
colonists of the people that were involved in founding our

1883
01:47:23.279 --> 01:47:26.720
country even before the time of The Revolutionary. War and

1884
01:47:26.760 --> 01:47:29.119
looking at the founding fathers, especially you, know we find

1885
01:47:29.319 --> 01:47:33.119
kind of different and varying theological views upon all of,

1886
01:47:33.119 --> 01:47:36.000
them but many of, them Especially George, washington you, know

1887
01:47:36.079 --> 01:47:39.560
they saw themselves As, christians they were shaped by their.

1888
01:47:39.600 --> 01:47:41.640
Faith they were molded by their. Faith you think of

1889
01:47:42.279 --> 01:47:45.680
the prayer of the picture rather Of George washington praying

1890
01:47:45.760 --> 01:47:50.039
And Valley, forge the most iconic pictures and depictions of

1891
01:47:50.079 --> 01:47:53.199
the time of The American. Revolution you Have washington calling

1892
01:47:53.840 --> 01:47:56.800
for the establishment of The Chaplain's corps in seventeen seventy

1893
01:47:56.880 --> 01:47:59.399
seven because he knew that the spiritual health of his

1894
01:47:59.479 --> 01:48:03.399
troops was so. Important and what was that kind of spiritual, Health,

1895
01:48:03.439 --> 01:48:06.560
well it Was christian, traditions largely that many of them

1896
01:48:06.720 --> 01:48:10.359
were members of different churches and were Distinctly. Christians and

1897
01:48:10.399 --> 01:48:13.279
so you have people especially you, Know Samuel adams And John,

1898
01:48:13.359 --> 01:48:16.560
jay you, know very very Devout, Christians people Like Thomas,

1899
01:48:16.640 --> 01:48:20.079
jefferson you, know probably be more of a materialist kind of.

1900
01:48:20.680 --> 01:48:22.920
View but at the same, time all of the founding,

1901
01:48:22.920 --> 01:48:27.000
fathers Because christianity was such an important part in shaping the,

1902
01:48:27.079 --> 01:48:30.439
culture it shaped their, Views it shaped how they, spoke

1903
01:48:30.560 --> 01:48:32.720
even a lot of their cadences and how they. Wrote

1904
01:48:33.119 --> 01:48:36.319
it just almost echoes kind of scriptures, language especially The

1905
01:48:36.399 --> 01:48:39.680
King james version of The. Bible and so you cannot

1906
01:48:39.760 --> 01:48:44.399
understand to the crucial point of, this you cannot understand

1907
01:48:44.399 --> 01:48:47.000
the founding Of america and the founding of The United

1908
01:48:47.000 --> 01:48:50.479
states without understanding the essential role That christianity has. Played

1909
01:48:50.760 --> 01:48:52.920
AND i think that that really impacts us today is

1910
01:48:52.960 --> 01:48:56.880
how we view ourselves and As, christians how we engage

1911
01:48:56.920 --> 01:49:00.359
politics as. WELL i think we explore this in the

1912
01:49:00.359 --> 01:49:03.920
documentary What ozgenists calls a civilizational moment where we can

1913
01:49:03.960 --> 01:49:06.479
recommit to these kinds of founding, principles and you, know

1914
01:49:06.520 --> 01:49:08.640
the two hundred and fiftieth birthday Of america is a

1915
01:49:08.680 --> 01:49:11.000
great time to do. That that's one. Option the second

1916
01:49:11.000 --> 01:49:13.079
option is we find something else to be rooted. In

1917
01:49:13.479 --> 01:49:16.279
you think of the rise Of islam that's happening in

1918
01:49:16.279 --> 01:49:22.359
The United states and also In Great, britain especially, secularism, socialism.

1919
01:49:22.399 --> 01:49:24.560
Communism these are other things that we can be rooted,

1920
01:49:24.560 --> 01:49:27.880
in not very good options in my, opinion or we can,

1921
01:49:28.359 --> 01:49:31.199
die as a third option That ozgenist calls. For and

1922
01:49:31.239 --> 01:49:34.039
SO i would say, that given our remarkable, history and

1923
01:49:34.039 --> 01:49:36.760
that's what we explore in this, documentary the best option

1924
01:49:36.880 --> 01:49:39.000
for us and the best path for, us is to

1925
01:49:39.079 --> 01:49:42.880
recommit to these founding principles that have been founded in

1926
01:49:42.920 --> 01:49:46.800
the declaration that we have rights that precede, government that

1927
01:49:48.000 --> 01:49:50.439
they come From, god and to recommit ourselves to those

1928
01:49:50.479 --> 01:49:52.960
truths and to live out that in our own lives As,

1929
01:49:53.039 --> 01:49:55.920
christians to engage politics, TODAY i think that that is

1930
01:49:55.960 --> 01:49:57.319
really important for us to, do.

1931
01:49:58.079 --> 01:49:59.760
You, know and what should give us a lot of,

1932
01:49:59.800 --> 01:50:02.680
Hope zach is the past two hundred and fifty, years

1933
01:50:03.079 --> 01:50:06.640
there is empirical evidence of what happens when you do

1934
01:50:06.720 --> 01:50:10.800
It god's, way. RIGHT i, mean not that we're. Claiming

1935
01:50:10.840 --> 01:50:13.079
AND i always hate to bring this in AND i

1936
01:50:13.520 --> 01:50:16.680
it hates the proper, word BUT i resent bringing it,

1937
01:50:16.680 --> 01:50:18.880
in you, know because we always have, to you, know

1938
01:50:19.000 --> 01:50:24.560
put in the you, know the clarifying element of, well

1939
01:50:24.560 --> 01:50:27.279
we're not claiming. Perfection of, course we're not claiming. Perfection

1940
01:50:27.760 --> 01:50:31.520
but it's. Silly but regardless for those people who, think oh,

1941
01:50:31.520 --> 01:50:33.760
Well bill And zach are talking about a Perfect, america and,

1942
01:50:33.800 --> 01:50:36.520
no we're not doing. That we're, Human we're. Flawed we're all.

1943
01:50:36.560 --> 01:50:38.840
Flawed that's why we Need. Jesus if we're, perfect we

1944
01:50:38.840 --> 01:50:41.079
don't Need. Jesus and so here we, are you, know

1945
01:50:41.239 --> 01:50:44.079
so silly. Us but the fact of the matter is

1946
01:50:44.079 --> 01:50:47.199
is Thank god that he sent his son and That

1947
01:50:47.840 --> 01:50:51.680
we're part of that redemptive process With jesus. Coming america

1948
01:50:51.760 --> 01:50:54.159
is part of. It it's not all About, america, because

1949
01:50:54.199 --> 01:50:59.640
as you said, earlier what difference Did america make by you,

1950
01:50:59.640 --> 01:51:05.840
know really bringing into View western civilization and what's happened

1951
01:51:05.880 --> 01:51:08.560
as a result Of, america and how we've taken The

1952
01:51:08.600 --> 01:51:11.760
gospel to the uttermost parts of the, world how many

1953
01:51:11.840 --> 01:51:15.760
missionaries are launched out Of, america how much money is

1954
01:51:15.800 --> 01:51:19.239
invested into other. Countries me and we are such a giving.

1955
01:51:19.359 --> 01:51:22.720
Nation and you tell me what socialist nation are you

1956
01:51:22.840 --> 01:51:25.600
aware of that does anything Like america has.

1957
01:51:25.680 --> 01:51:29.039
Done that's a fantastic. POINT i, mean you think of

1958
01:51:29.159 --> 01:51:32.119
just the remarkable contribution that we've had to the. World

1959
01:51:32.319 --> 01:51:35.279
it truly is. Amazing and you have to, remember you,

1960
01:51:35.279 --> 01:51:38.640
KNOW i say this in the documentary that people are

1961
01:51:38.640 --> 01:51:42.000
not defined by their worst, mistakes and nations are not

1962
01:51:42.039 --> 01:51:44.560
defined by their worst. Mistakes and you're, Right america does

1963
01:51:44.640 --> 01:51:48.000
have a history that you, know nobody's perfect and therefore

1964
01:51:48.039 --> 01:51:52.199
no nation is. Perfect slavery absolutely, horrible our original. Sin

1965
01:51:53.119 --> 01:51:55.159
but at the same time we have these especially with the,

1966
01:51:55.199 --> 01:51:58.039
declaration this truth that our nation was founded, on that

1967
01:51:58.079 --> 01:52:02.720
all men are created equals, principle the founding principles of our,

1968
01:52:02.800 --> 01:52:05.159
nation even if we didn't always live it up perfectly in.

1969
01:52:05.239 --> 01:52:09.319
Practice the principles are what is, beautiful what make our nation,

1970
01:52:09.479 --> 01:52:12.399
remarkable and those principles are what we have to recommit

1971
01:52:12.399 --> 01:52:15.039
ourselves to As christians In america at the two hundred

1972
01:52:14.960 --> 01:52:18.600
and fiftieth anniversary of our country, today and Especially christians

1973
01:52:19.119 --> 01:52:21.640
because we examine this in the documentary as. Well christians

1974
01:52:21.680 --> 01:52:25.319
have a unique and special role to play in politics

1975
01:52:25.319 --> 01:52:29.760
today because we engage Like christ, does speaking the truth and.

1976
01:52:29.960 --> 01:52:32.239
Love and that's what we have to do, today is

1977
01:52:32.720 --> 01:52:35.279
because we're able to do, that because we're prone to

1978
01:52:35.319 --> 01:52:39.399
do that by virtue of our. Faith that allows us

1979
01:52:39.399 --> 01:52:43.439
to have conversations that are, difficult conversations that can be

1980
01:52:43.479 --> 01:52:46.960
heated in a respectful way without tearing each other. Apart

1981
01:52:47.000 --> 01:52:49.960
SO i think it's absolutely essential For christians to get

1982
01:52:49.960 --> 01:52:53.399
involved in politics, today and by doing, that we provide

1983
01:52:53.399 --> 01:52:55.640
something valuable to our.

1984
01:52:55.720 --> 01:52:56.199
Nation you.

1985
01:52:56.239 --> 01:52:58.159
KNOW i think of all the, quotes especially that the

1986
01:52:58.159 --> 01:53:01.399
founding fathers had of the importance of religion in having

1987
01:53:01.399 --> 01:53:04.800
a successful nation and having a successful. Country It's christians

1988
01:53:04.800 --> 01:53:08.199
today that can pave the way for a really successful

1989
01:53:08.239 --> 01:53:09.560
next two hundred and fifty years as.

1990
01:53:09.600 --> 01:53:14.640
Well Because christians understand the things Of. God Non christians do.

1991
01:53:14.840 --> 01:53:17.840
Not it's a foreign. Language they cannot relate to it.

1992
01:53:17.880 --> 01:53:22.119
Whatsoever Zach mentler has been our. Guest he's With focus

1993
01:53:22.159 --> 01:53:25.359
on The, family a staff, writer communications. Liaison he is

1994
01:53:26.640 --> 01:53:30.239
the writer AND i guess you could say even, producer

1995
01:53:30.279 --> 01:53:33.560
and you narrate this new documentary Call faith In. America

1996
01:53:34.319 --> 01:53:36.239
it's a film that has been put out by The Daily.

1997
01:53:36.279 --> 01:53:38.479
Citizen and where can they go to connect with? It

1998
01:53:38.600 --> 01:53:40.319
zach remind everybody.

1999
01:53:40.399 --> 01:53:42.560
You can go to The Daily citizen dot org and

2000
01:53:42.560 --> 01:53:44.439
it should be right there at the. Top or you

2001
01:53:44.439 --> 01:53:46.560
can go to YouTube and just Search faith In.

2002
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