July 6, 2026

The Bill Martinez Show 07 06 26

The Bill Martinez Show 07 06 26
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The Bill Martinez Show 07 06 26
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Are you ready?

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Yeah, okay, let's do an Ill Martinez Live a program

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about current events, our culture, our values, our politics, and

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our future.

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And now Bill Martinez.

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Well, Happy fourth of July America. Six minutes after the

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top of the our Bill Martinez here with Robert Marquis

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from ATR GROVERERT. Happy forth to.

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You, sir, Happy fourth to you as well our.

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Two hundred and fiftieth celebration. We got lots to share about.

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And meanwhile, our soccer team is doing us proud, or

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as the Europeans would say, our football team.

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Who knew we were any good at this? When did

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this happen?

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Well, I'll tell you it's. You know, I was told

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my son, who's been a devout soccer player's entire life, said,

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you know, this is going to be the best team

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that we've put on the field in a long time.

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And he's right. What a great game they've been playing well.

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Tough tough break though with a red card on one

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of our best players, which is America is still upset.

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You know.

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It's uh, you know, good news we won uh two

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to nail, but the loss of uh, you know, a

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talent like flow Is is going to be an injury.

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He's not gonna be able to play against Belgium.

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Now he's out like because of foul.

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Yeah, it was, and if you saw it, Grover, it was.

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It was incidental, and you know, it's kind of ironic.

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And somebody mentioned this too, and I thought it's interesting

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because you know, we hear a lot about fouls on

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Caitlin Clark, for example, in the w n B A

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and she's beat up. Three wasats of Sunday soccer players

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barely get bumped into. They hit the ground, they're screaming

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and yelling and all this stuff, and I think performing,

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but you know, the the foul was somewhat incidental, and uh,

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the player, the US soccer player landed as they were

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going for the ball. He landed on the on the

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opposing player's ankle and and it in real time it

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doesn't look that bad, but when you slow it down,

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it looks bad. And they at first they didn't even

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call a foul, and then they appealed it and had

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to have some other eyes look at it in the

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slow motion and they decided it was a red card event.

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So he was out. The United States plays for the

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last what thirty to thirty five minutes one man less,

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they still manage goal, you know, with ten men as

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opposed to you know, versus eleven. And then the tough

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thing is the number one player for America is out

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because he got red carded. He can't play in the

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next game against Belgium.

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Ah, that's a dirty track. Okay, Well the rest of

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the world. You know, we do so well on the Olympics.

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I thought this was the one thing we kind of

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let other people win every once in a while.

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Well, they've had their way with us for a long time.

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But again, America, as it's continued to develop its soccer skills,

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is becoming formative. And you know, so it's you know,

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we're talking about this in a way because it is

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uniting our country. You know, we got people from Europe

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coming in and then they go, god, what is that?

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You know, we're not used to seeing that. We go, well,

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that's called ice. You know they don't have ice in Europe.

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And and why is it cool in here? That's called

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air conditioning. You know.

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I was just this last week. I was weekend I

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was in Italy for one of my staffers got his

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Italian and got married over in Sicily, and we all

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had fans in the church and in the place we

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had dinner, and everyone did this the whole time, so you.

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Got plenty, got your arm, got your biceps worked out

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pretty good over there.

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Right, Absolutely, it was it was warm inside. They didn't

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have air conditioning, and the buildings are all old, so

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it's I guess hard to put it somewhere, but it's

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different in Europe. And of course you've seen that the

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numbers that if Britain became a state, the fifty first state,

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it'd be the poorest state in the nation after Mississippi.

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If Germany became a state, it would be the fiftieth,

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just a little bit ahead of Mississippi for at least

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three years, and then Mississippi would overcome it. You know,

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the United States, it's growing away from Europe for all

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the reasons that we would understand. They've been doing this

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Green New Deal forever, killing nuclear power plants, you know,

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just all this nonsense to slow economic growth, taxes that

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slow economic growth, and some of the politicians in Washington

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and in California and New York want to turn us

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into Europe. That's what it is. As reading a book

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by this crazed environmentalist from twenty years ago about Europe

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is the new European dream. Nobody has the American dream anymore.

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It is now the European dream. And the whole thing

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reads like a joke now, But at the time it

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had all these quotations from everybody because he was so smart. Wow.

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Yeah, well that's what happens when you quote Greta Thunberg

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as a genius, and that happens to be, you know,

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the leader of your political you know, philosophy. I mean,

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it's just it's it's bananas, there's no doubt. And that's

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the thing. So you see all this stuff that's happening

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in Europe, you know, with immigration, energy and the likes,

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and you go, you want that here, and even Europeans

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are coming here and go, you guys are crazy, you

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know what. But fortunately it's a small percentage. But that's

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all it takes, is a small percentage. We saw what

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happened in Minnesota. Only eighty thousand people have commandeered that

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entire state and have turned it into a hellhole, has it?

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Have they not?

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Yeah? Well, every time the Democrats win the governor's chef

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or a suner race, that's the margin. Yeah, people that

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had been imported. And then it's not just that they

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come here, they why would you put everybody who speaks

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Somali in the same place so they never have to

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learn English, And then they figure out how not to

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get jobs, and of course they don't assimilate because they're

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not living next to anybody who could help them learn

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English or figure out how to have an American job,

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or any of these things that you do that generation

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and generations of people from all around the world did

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in the past, and they went to public schools that

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actually taught you to read in English, which is pretty useful.

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But we have the government run schools are not doing

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very well. The welfare keeps people away from work, and

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then telling people they don't have to learn English because

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we're going to let you all live next door to

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people who you knew over another country. All of those

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things make immigration more difficult to be successful.

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Right well, especially when you have a government that says,

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look at grower, you don't have to work because we've

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got a big treasury here. We got plenty of money

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and will take care of you. You know, we'll give

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you this money, we'll give you welfare, we'll give you medicare,

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you know, we'll take care of you health wise, and

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then on top of that, you can elect somebody who

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represents you to ensure that you know, the government grip continues.

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Right.

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Well, yes, and I was talking to somebody who runs

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the people who do welfare at the state level and

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are trying to be serious about it, and of course

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they run into all sorts of challenges. And what they

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find is when they put people on disability. If you

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do that to somebody for two years and tell them

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you don't really have to work, they become almost incapable

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of working because they unlearned, if they ever learned, they

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unlearned to be expected to work. And people offered real

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and these are real stories. They were going through offer

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jobs of fifty sixty seventy thousand dollars a year. They

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didn't want to give up their small pittance of welfare

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because that's what they understood and was secure, and the

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other was scary, even though it was a very it

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was a very serious job, and it would have lasted

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a long time. People don't give up the little thing

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that they know and understand in order to have a

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much serious job and income and independent. You break these

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people's legs and then expect them.

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To walk right exactly, and then if they think that

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they're going to start walking, you break their legs again.

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Yes, that movie Misery, Yeah exactly. The lady wants the

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guy to stay whether or he breaks his leg every

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time he starts to get better, right, the welfare system does.

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Yeah. And the thing it's interesting, you know, in terms

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of and I put it in terms of mediocritizing, it

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just makes people mediocre, less than what they can be,

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the true version of themselves. The other thing, and I'm

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curious to see if they ever do a study to

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find out if they rehab these people in you know,

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going along with what you're saying, if it takes two

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years to cripple them, how many years does it take

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to rehab them.

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Yeah, it's evidently it can take you out for almost ever.

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You keep coming back once you've trained them that you

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can do this and get by on you know, fifteen

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hundred dollars of welfare in a month, they don't look

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for more.

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He's the president of Americans for Tax Reform America's create

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eminent center right expert on taxes, Grover A year since

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the Big Beautiful Bill, Boy, yeah, I mean, in the

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face of a portion of the country moving to government

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reliance and the government being their daddy, we've got President

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want to be productive and be the best version of themselves.

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And boy, there's lots of positive data to talk about

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since the passing of the Big Beautiful Bill.

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Right, absolutely, and you're not going to see it on ABC, CBS,

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NBC or National Public Radio. There was a permanent tax

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reduction for everybody who pays federal income taxes. Everybody's rate

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went down. There's the perch out tax credit. One thousand

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dollars went up. Then there was the idea that the

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Trump Accounts, where anyone under eighteen parents, your employer can

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put money into your child's accounts of at the time

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they are turned eighteen. They actually have real money that's

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growing with the stock market. And so you can have

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eighteen year olds graduating who are going to be talking

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to their friends in high school about how much money

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they have and how it's invested and what they're doing

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with it. They will know what the stock market means.

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They'll understand economic growth. They'll even understand corporate income taxes,

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capital gains taxes. They'll be better informed about the economy

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and the politics of the economy than most congressmen and

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state legislators. It's going to be amazing. It's a huge

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change in the world that happened with adults. When in

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nineteen sixties early sixties, only seven percent of Americans own

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shares of stock directly like in a four to one

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k or IRA or the equivalent. Today because four or

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one k's iras, health savings accounts, education savings accounts are

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out there so available, sixty five percent of Americans owned

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shares of stock directly in the pension in life savings.

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So we're talking about two thirds of the American people

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understand what it means to invest money and see it grow.

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And what if they put their Social Security money into

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that account instead of giving it to the government, which

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just spends it right away and then takes money from

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your grandchildren to give you money in the future. But

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there's no investment for you, there's no growth, there's no

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capital accumulating. This is huge, huge, huge, We're going to

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have tens of millions of people who never would have

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understood the market, or wouldn't have done it until they

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were fifty or sixty, understand it by the time there's

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sixteen seventeen eighteen.

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Can you imagine the power and the force the ingenuity

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that this as a result of this big, beautiful bill,

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what it could develop for America. And I got to

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see that on the good side. On the bad side,

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if Democrats take over in power and they see that

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asset sitting there, they're going to attack that. Grover.

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In Argentina under the Pironists, they did exactly that. They

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went and stole the money from people's four oh one

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k's iras, education savings accounts, those sorts of things, and

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then took it and put it into their social security

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equivalent and just spent it. So it's gone. That's one

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of the reasons that Argentina collapsed one of the times.

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And now, of course, both in Chile and in Argentina,

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people are saving and you have center right governments determined

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to protect your life savings. It'll turn people into Republicans.

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Knowing that the Democrats during Reagan's years, one of the

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things they talked about doing to save soci Security, but

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to steal everybody's pension that was outside of Social Security

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as a way of you know, just putting in one

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big pile and everything that you'd saved would be gone.

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I don't think they'll ever be able to get rid

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of that because so many Americans have and hold real

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savings and real capital for their futures.

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You and I talked about this a month ago, and

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we're still yet to really spend some time on this.

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But the question that I asked you then is what's

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the future of Social Security? Because we hear, you know,

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maybe we've got six years of life left in it.

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Does it all go away? Can we retrain people to

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understand we're going to take whatever asset is there now

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and transfer it into a better opportunity, a true investment

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vehicle that will gain interest, that will expand and will

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grow for them, as opposed to Social Security, which has

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basically become an ATM and a somewhat sophisticated Ponzi scheme

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for the government.

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Yeah, in a Ponzi scheme, somebody says, invest in my company,

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but there's really no company, and I'll give you twenty

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percent interest every year, which is a lot of money

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in interest guaranteed or eight percent that's guaranteed. And so

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you get one hundred dollars from the guy, and then

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over the next five years you give him back his

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twenty dollars one at a time, and there's nothing there.

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But he tells all his friends what a great investor

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you are. All his friends give you money and you

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pay them back part and then at some point you

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have a big enough pile you walk out the door

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with it. A guy named Ponzi who did this. He

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told people he was buying and selling stamps because if

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you bought a stamp from the United States, it went

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to Italy, and if you bought an Italian stamp, it

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would go all the United States. But the Italian stamp

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is cheaper than the American stamp. So he explained this,

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I do this and I get rich. They said okay,

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and they gave him a bunch of money. He wasn't

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doing any of that, and he just took the money

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and ran. What Chili did, the country of Chile and

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a number of other countries is they said, if you

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like the pay as you go system, I mean, there's

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no savings at all. You put the money in we

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give it to your grandchildren. Someday maybe there'll be money

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for you. Except there won't be everything you're expected. But

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if you'd like, you can from now on put your

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instead of your fight attaxes into the government. You can

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put them into a four to one k an individual

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retirement account, and you can start to accumulate. And you

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do have to do something to finance the fact that

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you're switching over from something where there's no savings to

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where there is. It's not free, So it took money

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in Chili, but they got everybody switched over. And now

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the last time I said Chili, the average person in

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Chili saves a lot of money and their retirement is

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in much better shape than it ever was, and in

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some cases better the United States.

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Well, and imagine the force of that investment, because when

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you got people saving money, that equates to investment not

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only in themselves but the country, and you know the

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future growth. I mean, how long did it take them

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to make that transition grow?

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Well, they said, who wants to shift out? Ninety percent

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of people said.

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I do that quick?

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Wow yeah, and ten percent said I don't know about it.

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I'm thinking about it. Then later they come back and said,

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we're not running this program for ten percent, so we're

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going to switch you over and explain to you what

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we're doing. But by that time most people got it

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so much that nobody was unhappy about that. They just

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ten percent, like weren't paying attention, right, but interestingly understood

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immediately why it was a better deal to have an

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actual savings rather than in effect a welfare system. You

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give us money, we'll give somebody else your money, and

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then someday we'll go take money from somebody else and

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give it to you. That's welfare, that's not savings.

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Right exactly? Do you think we could have that kind

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of growth or that kind of transition here in America?

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Oh well, if we've done it when Bush was president,

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you'd be all done. Okay. The answer is you have

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to start at some time, and it will cost something

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to get done. But I think eventually we can make

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that happen. It is such a good idea, and the

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power of savings and making sure that people can compound

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interest is really a good idea. The idea of retiring

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with half a million and million dollars in the bank

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and then living off the interest and the growth there

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and then being able to give you children and grandchildren

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the corpus of the savings. It's a much better deal

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for every single America, not just some people, for everybody.

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And because so many people have the experience of an

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IRA individual retirement account for one K to say to them,

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this is what we're doing there, I got it immediately.

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I have one of those, and that's two thirds of

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the country. And then the other third they're not completely unaware.

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They just don't have that, and so I think they

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could fairly quickly go. I prefer door number two. It's

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to door number one.

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Well, you think about where the economy sits right now

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and how it's projecting. Grover, what better time to make

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this transition than now, because we're leaving money on the

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table by not participating, are we not?

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Yes, absolutely, and we've done a good job. We need

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to do. What you and I have talked about is

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index capital gains so you don't pay capital gains tax

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on inflation. There are a number of things to make

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savings and investment in United States even better, and I

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mean that's one of the reasons why the United States

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does so well. Somebody suggested to the president of Amazon,

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why don't we steal your money and spend it, or

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why don't you give it to charity? And he said,

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I can't spend it on charity as intelligently as I

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can by investing in my company. If I invest in

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my company, it's better for everybody. The wonderful calculations they

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did on how many hours out of the month simply

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buying things from Amazon is never mind lower prices, just

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less time taken away from you. And the idea that

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when somebody earns a billion dollars they had to create

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many times that to pay people salaries, to pay investments,

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and the consumer surplus, which is that money that the

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company never sees because they'll say some people would buy

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it for one hundred dollars and some people for fifty.

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But if you maximize revenue, you want to sell it

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for thirty because you get the most amount of money.

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But the people who would buy your product for one

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hundred are paying thirty because that's what that's the maximization

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of your profits. They're getting seventy percent at seventy dollars free.

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They pay thirty for somebody that they would pay one

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hundred to them. It's worth that much now at the

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end of the day. Some people just want thirty and

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they'll pay for thirty because that's what it's worth through them.

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But everybody who is willing to pay more than thirty

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has consumer surplus. They walk away much better off. And

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nobody even sees that. When we talk about who benefits

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from these companies that billionaires found, they see, oh, the

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guy's got a billionaire. Yeah, but tens of billions went

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into the hands and into the to the individuals who

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bought from the company.

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Exactly. He's the president of Americans for Tax Reform, America's

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pre eminent center right expert on taxes. Grover and Arquiz Grover,

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Happy two hundred and fiftieth birthday and maybe be blessed,

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especially this Fourth of July weekend.

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Absolutely two and fifty years ago, we were paying one

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to two percent of our income in taxes. We need

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to get back to that.

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Hey, we're back with you. Bill Martinez here along with

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my good friend Carl Gallops, the senior pastor of Hickory

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Hammic Baptist Church in Milton. Senior pastor in One Church.

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Can you believe it or not? I mean that and

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of itself is a walking miracle. One church. No junta

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is there on the Gulf coast since nineteen eighty seven.

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He's an Amazon top sixty best selling author, and we're

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going to talk about his latest book, Golga is Growing,

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and that'll come up in the conversation, no doubt. But

536
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first of all, Carl, always good to have you with us.

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How are you doing, Bill, It's always good to be

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with you, my brother, Thank you so much. Hey, the

539
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conversation we had off air just a few moments ago

540
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should have been a show.

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But anyway, well, that's that's okay. Yeah, yeah, people have

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to pay a lot of money for that, you know,

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So I go to keep that, Keith that in the archives,

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as they say.

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But certainly behind the paywall.

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Yeah, exactly. But we've got lots to talk about currently,

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especially this week after the Democratic Socialists have come out

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of the closet full blown. They've hijacked the Democratic Party's

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brand and have taken over. And I mean to me,

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what a lack of courage on their part that they

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couldn't even start their own party or even declare what

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they are. But now, you know, like I said, the

553
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Socialists are coming. Paul Revere is yelling and screaming.

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Now, well, there are a couple of good things to this. Finally,

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they are outing themselves unshakably. And we have two statistics

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on our side. Number One, the vast majority of Americans

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when they're polled, which means a lot of so called

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Democrats are in this group, don't want that. They want

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something like we, You and I want a constitutional republic

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with some form of really real justice and some form

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of real opportunity to get ahead in life, freedom of worship,

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and freedom from government and encroachment in our lives. Most

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of our people want that. They don't want their children

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to be transgendered in kindergarten. They don't want they don't

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want the borders open and flooded with whoever. They don't

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want Islamic conclaves of areas of our nation. Listen, if

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somebody's of the Islamic religion, our nation allows that for

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all of us. You don't have to have any religion

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at all. You can be Christian, you can be Muslim,

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you can be whatever, as long as the Constitution of

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the United States is your foundational guidestone for how we

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live in this exactly, there are very few places in

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the world that gives that kind of not only freedom

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but protection. So what I mean by Islamic conclaves. That's

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not America. You can't bring your former religion and your

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former culture, and your former lifestyle and try to take

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a city or a state of the United States and

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turn it into that. That's totally unconstitutional, totally illegal, and

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illogical unless you're trying to thwart the American constitution, the

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American way of life, and or eventually take over some

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form of government. And that's what's happening, brothers, so exactly,

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and so I'm almost finished. But the bottom line is

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is that so we've got a lot of Democrats, I

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think are getting ready to put an R by their name.

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Now I do not believe that the Republicans are the

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you know, the one hundred protectors of our nation. We've

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got all kind of ranos and everything else. But I

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think it would be beneficial if they would come and

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keep voting in some kind of constitutional conservative people to

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keep our lifestyle and our freedom. And the second thing is,

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well I've already said it in the beginning, and that

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is the vast majority of Americans, not all of them,

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but the vast majority are on our side. Whatever that means,

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you know, well.

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What we've been how we've delineated parl in the last

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several months, is that it's you're either pro American or

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you're anti American. Forget about parties, forget about Republican Party,

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Democratic Party. This is what God is. In this contentious

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position that we're in right now, we have to go

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back to the ultimate. What our founding fathers were all about,

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what the pilgrims when they first came to the country,

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what it was about. George Whitfield, and of course a

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great movie, The Awakening, If you haven't seen it, highly

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recommend that you do that. It will remind you how

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the idea of freedom, God given freedom, how it brought

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the forces together.

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You know.

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Decades later you have Ronald Reagan saying, and sometimes this

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is misquoted. Some people say democracies. He didn't say democracy.

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He said freedom is never more said freedom, never more

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than one generational way from extinction. We don't pass it

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to the children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected,

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and then handed to them with the well fought lessons

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of how in our lifetime they must do the same.

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So it's generational. It must pass through and hand it off.

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But what happened is we trusted our educational system in

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part to do some of this civil civic duty. That

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was the responsibility. The other thing is parents themselves got

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lax in telling the story. You know, even when you

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go back to the Old Testament in the Sheman, what

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does God tell us to do? Right, You're talking to

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the kids when you're walking in the highways and byways,

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You're telling them, you know, about the greatness of God.

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And we have failed. And this is why we have

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this big divide and people are shocked. They're waking up

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and going, how did we get these anti Americans at

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our dinner tables?

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Yeah, yeah, listen, you and probably some of your audience know.

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You know that I've been a pastor for a long

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time in one church, almost forty years prior to that

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Florida law enforcement officer you introduced me that way, for

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ten years. So I've watched, I've seen a lot. I've

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dealt in people's lives, government lives, lawyers, courts, justice, law enforcement,

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now ministry and everything that goes with it. And i

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can tell you I do a lot of media because

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of my books, and so I'm all over Christian media

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all over the United States and various places of the world.

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But I can tell you this. In an interview some

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years back, just a few years ago, the host and

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it was a big show, I mean, it went international,

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And the host asked me, Pastor Carl, what's wrong with

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us talking about the United States? What are these people thinking? What?

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And you just kept going on and on, and I

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didn't think he would ever take a breath. Finally I

645
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just said, stop, I can answer your question. They are

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not of us, they are not for us. They are

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not us, many of them. And I mean they're illegals,

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they're anchor babies and on and all. They grow up

649
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and they become lawyers and judges and all of these

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different things. And the institutions and teachers, the institutions have

651
00:35:45.880 --> 00:35:50.840
been infiltrated over the years purposely is by design. In

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the meantime, people like us, we grow up, we go

653
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to work, we get an education, we do what we do,

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we raise our kids. We you know, we try to

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provide for their future. And in the meantime, a lot

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of like you said, families and people, politicians, teachers, et cetera,

657
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et cetera, have just gotten complacent and thought, oh, it'll

658
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always be like this, and it won't. It's generation to

659
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generation like you said. That same host later a few

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years later, asked me when Trump went in office. The

661
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first time he asked me, He said, listen, give us

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a prophecy about Trump's presidency. Well, I don't call myself

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a prophet. I never do that. I was a little

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taken back. God has used me prophetically, but simply because

665
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I stand in his word, his contextual word, and he

666
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honors that. Well, when he asked me that, I was thinking, Lord,

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I don't even know what to say. And it's live,

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it's live, it's going to the whole world and so

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But as soon as he finished, my mind just boom.

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It was like the Lord just spoke to me. And

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I said, you know what, two things that I believe

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the Lord to speak to me. This was in twenty sixteen. Now, brother,

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think of what I'm getting ready to say. I said,

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I believe the Lord is telling me that Donald Trump

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will be used by God. That doesn't mean he's God's

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angel or God's favorite, or it doesn't even mean he's

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born again. God can use who he wants, Pharaoh's kings, whatever.

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But yeah, but I said, but God is going to

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use him to expose the underbelly of the deep state

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and things all over the world. And I remember the

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host looking at me like what and people were in

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the audience, huge audience, And I said, secondly, Donald Trump

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is going to catch all hell for that for as

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long as he tries to run, as long as he's alive,

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because he's getting ready to blow the lid off. That

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was in twenty sixteen. So what happened. Not only did

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he do that, not only did he start that, but

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then the next time he tried to run, it was

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stolen from him. And they were so terrified of him

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running again. They had monkey courts and everything trying to

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convict him. They still say, he's a convicted felon by

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a stupid court that didn't even have jurisdiction. And then

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they tried to impeach him, impeach him, impeach him, and

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they did a few times. They tried to put him

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somebody tried to kill him twice. He got hit in

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said to that other host about these people are not

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of us. They're not for us. That's still going on

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Here with Carl Gallups, senior pastor, former law enforcement officer

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and author. And we're also to talk about gold. Go

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with this, Groni because it all fits in to what's

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going on right now. This show, you know, from its inception,

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was all about taking culture and bringing it through a

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biblical worldview. Because you know, in and of itself, if

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you think you're in control, you know, just like you

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were talking about before, Carl. If you think it's all

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about you and a bag of chips, you know, forget it.

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I mean God is orchestrating all this. Whether we're talking

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about what's going on in Iran, what's happening in Ukraine

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and Russia, what's happening with China AI, all this is

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all happening just as God said it would, right.

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Yes, Yes, Satan is a master chess player. God is

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a ten level master chess player. So Satan, Satan loses

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in the end. But at the meantime, this thing called

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life is working its way out. It's going from point

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A the Garden of Eden, to point ze when Jesus returns.

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In the meantime, we that are believers, we are ambassadors

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for that coming kingdom. We've been put here for such

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a time as this. We're living in the midst of

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Satan's world. We're the Kingdom's secret agents, right.

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And the thing is is that every time this, this

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isn't the first time it's happened. Whenever you have this

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kind of antithical demonstration that takes place, I get it,

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some people want to get you know, get freaked out.

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And so all this is scary and all this, But

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what you're doing is you're subordinating your rightful position. As

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you said so eloquently, Carl, you know they're not of us,

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and us have to continue to be aligned with God

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like never before, because God is speaking to us. The

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question is are we listening?

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That's right. No, No, that's it. Jesus said, my sheep

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hear my voice. Yeah, and I hear them. They follow me,

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and I give them eternal life, and nobody can snatch

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them out of my father's hand. And then he goes

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on to say, look, it's the thief that comes to

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steal and kill and destroy, but I have come to

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give it to you more abundantly. That's in John chapter ten,

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and so much more. He's saying to us, keep your

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eyes on me. That's Hebrews twelve. Keep your eyes on

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Jesus Christ, the author, finisher, and perfector of our faith,

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and do your work. Your work is an ambassador. That's

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what you and I are trying to do right now.

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Well exactly, and as you mentioned earlier, is that Donald

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Trump is an exposing agent, and so it's up to us.

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I mean, we're seeing the truth really that our institutions

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are so compromised, they're so fraud ridden ridden, they are

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compromised in so many ways that you can't really match

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it up and put it into proper alignment with our

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constitution because you have all these three letter agencies within

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our government that are all bought and sold and owned

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by outside entities. So this is no longer a government

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of for by we the people. And I want our

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audience to really grasp that and what it means, because

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the consent of the government has been compromised and diluted

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when ballot stuffing is going on. This is why just

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one thing, you know, to say that is so critical

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if we're going to take back the election process and

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have some credibility and make sure the consent of the

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government is actually being realized.

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Right, Yeah, no, you're absolutely right. We have to stay

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engaged and listen. That is not non Christian. You hear

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Christians sometimes say, well, God's got this, We're not supposed

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to be involved. That's all evil. Well, we live in

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Satan's world. The whole thing's evil. Yeah, but every time

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we vote to choose between the lesser of two evils,

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yes we do, so choose the lesser one, please, so

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we can please keep our head above the water and

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breathe every now and then for our children, our grandchildren,

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our great grandchildren, and whatever's left until the Lord returns.

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I mean, it's a fight. It's a war. The whole

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Bible speaks of that. The New Testament talks about the

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spiritual warfare we're in and we have to suit up

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in the armor of God, and we have to take

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a stand. We have to vote, we have to speak out,

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we have to do things like you and I are doing.

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People need to listen, they need to get engaged. They

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need to be a part of the whole system. Otherwise

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the enemy will take over. And by enemy I mean Satan,

857
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I also mean humanly speaking, his puppets, like watching in

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the United States right now. We've got Satan's puppets in

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this house, in the Senate, We've got them all through

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the government, We've got them in schools, We've got them

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all over the border. I mean, we listen. We are

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in very prophetic times, and the Word of God speaks

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specifically about all these things that I'm saying.

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Well, you look at you know the way immigrants have

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come into countries. Then they've changed the demography of European nations.

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They're doing it here. You've got situations. I keep reminding

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our audience. I mean, look what's happened in Minneapolis. Eighty

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thousand Somalis control the entire state.

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Now, Carl, I've been there, Listen. I've been there and

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preached conferences. I would catch ubers and lyfts, and most

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of them are There's some Hispanic and some Muslim people.

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I'm always very gracious to whoever i'm with. And so

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I was with my son was with me, Brandon, you

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know him, yes, And we were going to a big

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conference and we were talking to this Muslim lift driver

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and he had come here from Pakistan to get away

877
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from what all was going on over there, raised a

878
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family here, still had a thick accent. But his kids

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love America. They are American. They've gone to college, they're

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doctors and lawyers. And he said, in Minneapolis, he said,

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I'm going to tell you what. Not all Muslims are

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the same. He said, I will tell you this place

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is filled with some Malli's and even the other of

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us are scared the death of them. He said, it's

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you know, I'm sure there are exceptions, but the group

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as a whole we're watching what's happening there. And this

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is what the Supreme Court just.

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Recently exactly I was going to say, Okay, you go

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ahead with that, and yeah, no, go ahead, just keep

890
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on going with it, because I was going to ask

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you that question.

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Go ahead, yeah, yeah, just yesterday, I think and and

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it was six to three to uphold Trump's efforts to

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deport these who are under the safe haven of the

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United States.

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Hate hate eve protected protected status, right.

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Protected status, protected status. But listen, it's temporary protected status.

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It says that on all their documents. Temporary means there's

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no guarantee you can stay here for ever. Number one.

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Number two, they keep saying equal rights, equal rights. They

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ruled yesterday that these temporary protected status have no equal rights.

902
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Now that sounds un American, But wait a minute, they're

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not American. We took them in to protect them. Now,

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those that have become goods citizens and got involved, started businesses, working,

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raising their kids, getting an education, making money, paying Social

906
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Security and taxes, that's a whole different ballgame. But a

907
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bunch of these immigrants do not do that. We've watched

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those that flood across the border every day. We hear

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horror stories of these people raping and murdering and pillaging

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and pedophilia and all these different things. And what Trump's

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trying to do is to get the bad ones out

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of here because they've overstayed their welcome. They're not Americans,

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they're here by our good graces. They're stealing our social

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security numbers, they're stealing American jobs, they're robbing and pillaging

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the United States. And so the Supreme Court ruled do it.

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Now.

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Watch the Democrat Party, the current socialist communist Democrat Party,

918
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went berserk, like, no, you can do that. Well, what

919
00:50:59.119 --> 00:51:02.559
is Trump doing? First? He is taking away an illegal

920
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voting block from them, and fraud, and he's getting rid

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of criminals and as I said, rapist and pedophiles and

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on and on. And it's interesting if people would just

923
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listen to the response of the left. If you've got

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a D beside your name, get out of it. Put

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in an I or an R, something to get you

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into the mainstream of voting for a sane America will

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never be perfect. We live in Satan's wood, but we

928
00:51:30.639 --> 00:51:37.199
can be sane er and much more safer, so much

929
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more safe, and so anyway, that's that's where we are,

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and that's what I keep telling people. Keep your eyes

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on Jesus. If you are a born again believer, understand

932
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you're an ambassador in this mess for the coming Kingdom,

933
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trying to lead people to Christ, trying to minister to people,

934
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all of that. But we're also Americans, and the only

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reason we can do the Christian things we do is

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because of the protections we have there. Exactly, these seven

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Muslim nations where you and I cannot go and just

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talk to people about Jesus. We'll be put in jail,

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we might be killed, we'll have our assets. Sees fifty

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seven nations exactly, and there are other nations that aren't

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Muslim but that do some of the same things. So

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I'm just saying, for one hundred years, the statistic is

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that when people are polled all over the world, if

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they could leave their current nation and go anywhere else

945
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in the world to live for the rest of their life,

946
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where would they go. The United States of America is

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always number one, tenfold over number two every year one

948
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hundred years. And so with all of the evil we have,

949
00:52:44.840 --> 00:52:47.320
this is about the best place on earth right now

950
00:52:47.480 --> 00:52:49.440
that you can come. You can raise your children. You

951
00:52:49.440 --> 00:52:51.159
can get a job, you can make some money, you

952
00:52:51.199 --> 00:52:53.800
can have a future, you can have an education and

953
00:52:54.039 --> 00:52:56.360
almost guaranteed if you'll work for it.

954
00:52:56.840 --> 00:52:59.719
But anyway, and God has given us, and God has

955
00:52:59.719 --> 00:53:03.400
given the solution to even still make it better Carl

956
00:53:04.119 --> 00:53:07.159
to be renewed, to be revived, and that is that

957
00:53:07.440 --> 00:53:10.360
we must repent. I mean, what you're pointing out and

958
00:53:10.440 --> 00:53:14.360
what we're realizing and the exposure that Donald Trump has

959
00:53:14.480 --> 00:53:17.760
opened our eyes to is that we have this corruption.

960
00:53:17.960 --> 00:53:21.199
And we shouldn't be surprised. God said very clearly, hey,

961
00:53:21.199 --> 00:53:23.079
look at you can have it with me or without me.

962
00:53:23.400 --> 00:53:25.519
With me, you'll be blessed. Without me, you're going to

963
00:53:25.559 --> 00:53:28.960
be cursed. Okay, So look at America. Are we blessed

964
00:53:29.039 --> 00:53:29.920
or cursed right now?

965
00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:33.039
Yeah? A little both. We're blessed, but there's a lot

966
00:53:33.079 --> 00:53:36.199
of curse that's going on. And I tell people when

967
00:53:36.280 --> 00:53:38.679
I preach, and this can be right down to how

968
00:53:38.719 --> 00:53:41.440
you do a marriage, or how you treat other people,

969
00:53:41.559 --> 00:53:43.559
or how you do a church, but it can be

970
00:53:43.639 --> 00:53:46.440
also how you do a nation. And here's what I say.

971
00:53:46.880 --> 00:53:51.000
If you want to be blessed, do what God says

972
00:53:51.119 --> 00:53:55.880
is best. Do what he says is best, and he said,

973
00:53:56.039 --> 00:53:59.280
I will bless that. I will bless. That doesn't mean

974
00:53:59.320 --> 00:54:01.880
we have to be her fit. No human being is

975
00:54:01.920 --> 00:54:04.320
perfect except for me and you. But other than that,

976
00:54:04.760 --> 00:54:09.000
no one is other than Jesus Christ. And of course

977
00:54:09.000 --> 00:54:12.159
we're kidding here on you and I. But the bottom

978
00:54:12.199 --> 00:54:15.159
line is I have practiced this in my life forty

979
00:54:15.239 --> 00:54:17.360
years in one church. I mean, that's unheard of in

980
00:54:17.400 --> 00:54:20.239
this whole region of the Gulf Coast. There's not another

981
00:54:20.320 --> 00:54:23.599
pastor been forty years in one church. I don't know.

982
00:54:23.719 --> 00:54:27.000
It's just the blessing of God. But my heart has

983
00:54:27.119 --> 00:54:29.639
been and I think this is what He honors. My

984
00:54:29.800 --> 00:54:33.800
heart has been in all that I can do. I'm

985
00:54:33.840 --> 00:54:37.639
going to try to do the very best like God

986
00:54:37.679 --> 00:54:41.119
says to do it. Now, sometimes I fail. Sometimes I

987
00:54:41.199 --> 00:54:45.000
have to get, you know, my rear end slapped. I

988
00:54:45.000 --> 00:54:48.039
got to get a little discipline from the Lord and

989
00:54:48.079 --> 00:54:49.400
the Holy Spirit because.

990
00:54:49.119 --> 00:54:50.639
He chastises his children.

991
00:54:51.039 --> 00:54:53.599
Yeah, the Holy Spirit. Have you ever heard these words

992
00:54:53.599 --> 00:55:00.239
from the Lord? Stop that I hear that. Sometimes you're right, right,

993
00:55:00.280 --> 00:55:02.960
you're right. But the bottom line, he looks at the heart,

994
00:55:03.239 --> 00:55:06.800
he looks at your total motion forward in his kingdom

995
00:55:07.079 --> 00:55:09.360
and he blesses as you take a step of blessing.

996
00:55:09.599 --> 00:55:11.639
That's what Psalm twenty three means when it says he

997
00:55:11.679 --> 00:55:16.440
will lead us into paths of righteousness for his namesake.

998
00:55:16.519 --> 00:55:19.920
Now that for his namesake doesn't mean he's egotistical and

999
00:55:20.000 --> 00:55:23.199
wants his name. No, he's saying, I will show you

1000
00:55:23.199 --> 00:55:26.320
what my name does. It blesses you, it protects you,

1001
00:55:26.760 --> 00:55:30.000
it guides you, it leads you. My name I have

1002
00:55:30.079 --> 00:55:33.000
the power to open doors and close doors. No one

1003
00:55:33.000 --> 00:55:35.360
else does. So I will lead you in the path.

1004
00:55:35.440 --> 00:55:38.599
That means we're following him. If we will follow him

1005
00:55:38.599 --> 00:55:40.800
in the path of righteousness, even if we do fall,

1006
00:55:41.199 --> 00:55:43.400
scrape our knee or go off in the ditch every

1007
00:55:43.440 --> 00:55:47.159
now and then, just keep following him, he will bless

1008
00:55:47.559 --> 00:55:50.440
And my life in ministry is living proof of that

1009
00:55:50.880 --> 00:55:53.320
and many many others. It's just that you're talking to

1010
00:55:53.320 --> 00:55:56.480
me now, So I'm just using myself as an example,

1011
00:55:56.840 --> 00:56:00.599
and so that's the key. And as a nation, if

1012
00:56:00.599 --> 00:56:04.159
we could get that kind of focus, do what God

1013
00:56:04.239 --> 00:56:08.159
says his best, and then he's promised I will bless that.

1014
00:56:08.960 --> 00:56:13.599
Amen. Carl Gallups, the senior pastor, best selling author, and

1015
00:56:13.719 --> 00:56:17.239
former law enforcement officer fully decorated, by the way, and

1016
00:56:17.519 --> 00:56:19.280
it's always an honor to have you with us. Carl,

1017
00:56:19.440 --> 00:56:21.440
Thank you, take care, God bless you, my friend.

1018
00:56:21.679 --> 00:56:23.920
My pleasure. Thank you, Bill, God bless.

1019
00:56:24.719 --> 00:56:27.559
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Eight hundred six nine nine oh three five eight, eight

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1036
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nine nine zero three fifty eight.

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Getting America back on track Bill Martinez Live.

1039
00:57:36.039 --> 00:57:38.039
Six minutes after the top, they are right now, Bill

1040
00:57:38.039 --> 00:57:40.760
Martinez here with the American Minute creator, the one and

1041
00:57:40.800 --> 00:57:43.199
only Bill Better. Hey, mister Bill, how we doing a

1042
00:57:43.320 --> 00:57:43.960
great to be with you?

1043
00:57:44.079 --> 00:57:45.000
Bill Well?

1044
00:57:45.000 --> 00:57:46.119
Happy fourth of July.

1045
00:57:46.039 --> 00:57:46.480
My friend.

1046
00:57:47.400 --> 00:57:53.440
Well, it is a monumental holiday where we celebrate our

1047
00:57:53.480 --> 00:57:58.000
independence from Britain. One of the things I highlight is

1048
00:57:58.039 --> 00:58:01.159
that Britain was the most powerful empire on the planet.

1049
00:58:02.159 --> 00:58:04.119
The King of England was a globalist. He was a

1050
00:58:04.159 --> 00:58:06.800
one world government guy. The son never sat in the

1051
00:58:06.800 --> 00:58:09.480
British Empire. He had India, Australia, New Zealand, Hong Kong,

1052
00:58:09.519 --> 00:58:12.599
British guy out of Canada, Barbatis, Berduda, Jamaica in America,

1053
00:58:13.199 --> 00:58:15.719
and America's founders decided they didn't like a globalist king

1054
00:58:15.760 --> 00:58:17.360
telling us what to do, so they broke away and

1055
00:58:17.360 --> 00:58:19.719
flipped it and made the people of the king. So

1056
00:58:20.840 --> 00:58:27.920
monarchies have kings, and republics have citizens. The king has

1057
00:58:27.960 --> 00:58:31.199
subjects who are subjected to his will. And the word

1058
00:58:31.320 --> 00:58:36.159
citizen means co ruler, co sovereign, cocaing. So our founders,

1059
00:58:36.199 --> 00:58:39.119
for all their faults, they gave us a present, and

1060
00:58:39.159 --> 00:58:41.679
that present is you get to be in charge of

1061
00:58:41.719 --> 00:58:44.599
your life, and all of us together are in charge

1062
00:58:44.599 --> 00:58:47.840
of the country, and we have a voluntary opportunity of

1063
00:58:47.880 --> 00:58:50.800
surrendering our lives to Jesus, the King of kings. But

1064
00:58:50.920 --> 00:58:55.199
it's voluntary. They fled from Europe where it was mandatory,

1065
00:58:55.480 --> 00:58:58.559
and they wanted freedom of conscience. God loves you, he

1066
00:58:58.599 --> 00:59:00.119
wants you to love him back. But for love to

1067
00:59:00.159 --> 00:59:03.079
be loved must be voluntary.

1068
00:59:03.119 --> 00:59:03.599
Exactly.

1069
00:59:03.880 --> 00:59:04.480
Yeah.

1070
00:59:04.519 --> 00:59:07.840
Well, and it's interesting because here it's almost like we've

1071
00:59:07.840 --> 00:59:10.599
gone full circle, Bill, because two hundred and fifty years

1072
00:59:11.440 --> 00:59:16.920
we're celebrating, you know, this this holiday. We rejected a

1073
00:59:16.960 --> 00:59:22.000
globalist movement. But the thing is about the globalist movement

1074
00:59:22.239 --> 00:59:26.199
is that, like cockroaches, it just keeps reinventing itself and

1075
00:59:26.239 --> 00:59:28.679
it just never ever just goes away, does it.

1076
00:59:29.400 --> 00:59:31.639
Yeah, it's like weed junior yard. What do you have

1077
00:59:31.679 --> 00:59:35.320
to do to get weeds? Nothing? You just do nothing

1078
00:59:35.360 --> 00:59:40.039
and they automatically appear. And what takes effort to weed

1079
00:59:40.159 --> 00:59:43.239
your yard. So the saying is eternal vigilance is the

1080
00:59:43.239 --> 00:59:46.280
price of liberty. So every generation has to be eternally

1081
00:59:46.559 --> 00:59:48.239
you have to get out there and weed the yard

1082
00:59:48.440 --> 00:59:52.400
every single you know, day or a week. And so,

1083
00:59:53.679 --> 00:59:56.400
you know, I like looking at history several years ago,

1084
00:59:56.440 --> 00:59:59.679
I decided i'd research every century of recorded human history.

1085
01:00:00.039 --> 01:00:02.800
I've talked about this before, but the most common form

1086
01:00:02.800 --> 01:00:05.760
of government is kings, and the first record of this

1087
01:00:06.039 --> 01:00:08.519
in the Bible is nimrod Tower, a babbel just down

1088
01:00:08.519 --> 01:00:13.239
the mountain from Arat, when Norah's ark landed. Yes, and Josephus,

1089
01:00:13.280 --> 01:00:15.960
the Jewish commentator, said, Nimrod wanted to build his tower

1090
01:00:16.119 --> 01:00:19.000
so high that if God destroyed the world again with

1091
01:00:19.000 --> 01:00:21.639
a flood, he could survive on top. And he made

1092
01:00:21.679 --> 01:00:24.760
everybody in town bake bricks or he would kill them.

1093
01:00:25.360 --> 01:00:28.840
He wanted people to fear him more than God. And

1094
01:00:28.960 --> 01:00:32.000
since the population of the world was centered there, the

1095
01:00:32.039 --> 01:00:36.239
Fertile Crescent, the Mesopotamian Valley, just down the mountain from Arat,

1096
01:00:36.719 --> 01:00:38.880
and he wanted to control it. In a sense, he

1097
01:00:39.000 --> 01:00:41.840
was the first globalist. Nimrod was the first one that

1098
01:00:41.880 --> 01:00:45.800
wanted to control the human population. God comes down, confuses

1099
01:00:45.840 --> 01:00:48.199
the languages, and the people scattered into language groups that

1100
01:00:48.239 --> 01:00:51.079
turn into nations. So in a sense, nations were God's

1101
01:00:51.079 --> 01:00:54.800
invention to postpone one world government. But every generation has

1102
01:00:54.800 --> 01:00:56.599
some king that wants to conquer other nations. And I

1103
01:00:56.599 --> 01:00:58.760
have left unchecked. Well, he'd been happy to conquer them all,

1104
01:00:58.800 --> 01:01:02.519
and he got Caesar and Antila the Hunt and Genghis Khan.

1105
01:01:03.159 --> 01:01:04.760
But at the time of America's founding, it was the

1106
01:01:04.840 --> 01:01:07.800
King of England. And so America's founders broke away and

1107
01:01:08.800 --> 01:01:10.639
gave us a republic where we get to be in

1108
01:01:10.760 --> 01:01:12.679
charge of our lives, and all of us together are

1109
01:01:12.679 --> 01:01:13.679
in charge of the country.

1110
01:01:14.320 --> 01:01:17.599
Well, getting back to what you said earlier about you know,

1111
01:01:18.800 --> 01:01:21.679
maintaining the garden and getting the weeds out of there.

1112
01:01:21.920 --> 01:01:25.320
I mean, little did we know. When Benjamin Franklin responded

1113
01:01:25.360 --> 01:01:29.159
to that woman asking him after the Continental Convention, Okay,

1114
01:01:29.280 --> 01:01:31.320
so what kind of government did you guys come up with?

1115
01:01:31.679 --> 01:01:33.960
He said, well, a republic if you can keep it.

1116
01:01:34.800 --> 01:01:37.079
Maybe he needed to explain a little bit more what

1117
01:01:37.159 --> 01:01:38.119
that meant, right.

1118
01:01:39.000 --> 01:01:45.599
Yeah, Well, John Adams wrote the Constitution for Massachusetts in

1119
01:01:45.679 --> 01:01:51.440
seventeen eighty, seven years before the US Constitution, So Massachusetts

1120
01:01:51.519 --> 01:01:55.880
is considered the longest still in use constitution in world history.

1121
01:01:56.599 --> 01:02:00.400
But when John Adams wrote it, he realized that if

1122
01:02:00.400 --> 01:02:02.519
we're not going to be a country ruled by a

1123
01:02:02.639 --> 01:02:07.280
king who uses fear, we're going to be a republic

1124
01:02:07.440 --> 01:02:10.880
where the citizens need to be moral, and so John

1125
01:02:10.920 --> 01:02:14.559
Adams put into the Massachusetts Constitution that the state shall

1126
01:02:14.639 --> 01:02:18.719
lay attacks for the support and maintenance of public Protestant

1127
01:02:18.760 --> 01:02:21.880
teachers of piety and religion. He says, we've got to

1128
01:02:21.920 --> 01:02:25.159
have a moral populace, and so it's to the state's

1129
01:02:25.320 --> 01:02:31.280
interests that we teach Protestant Christianity, right, And so what

1130
01:02:31.320 --> 01:02:33.840
does that teach. It teaches that God has a God

1131
01:02:33.880 --> 01:02:36.079
of laws, and he's watching you, and he wants you

1132
01:02:36.159 --> 01:02:40.320
to be fair. And if there is no God, then

1133
01:02:40.320 --> 01:02:43.440
it's whatever you can get away with exactly. Laws are

1134
01:02:43.480 --> 01:02:45.119
just made up by some men. You know, It's like,

1135
01:02:45.159 --> 01:02:47.360
why follow them? And it turns into lawlessness.

1136
01:02:48.159 --> 01:02:50.760
How did this not collide with the idea or this

1137
01:02:50.840 --> 01:02:54.000
concept that has been popularized these days, you know, the

1138
01:02:54.320 --> 01:02:56.119
idea of separation of church and state.

1139
01:02:57.639 --> 01:03:01.000
Yeah, so every colony was started by a different Christian

1140
01:03:01.039 --> 01:03:06.719
denomination of Virginia's Anglican, Massachusetts was Puritan, Rhode Island was Baptist,

1141
01:03:06.800 --> 01:03:10.440
Maryland Catholic, a New York Dutch Reform Delaware, New Jersey

1142
01:03:10.440 --> 01:03:14.920
Swedish Lutheran, and Pennsylvania Quaker. And they did not get along.

1143
01:03:16.320 --> 01:03:19.400
If you read the history. If any one of them

1144
01:03:19.440 --> 01:03:21.639
thought they could have defeated the King on their own,

1145
01:03:22.320 --> 01:03:24.280
they would have been tempted to set up their own

1146
01:03:24.320 --> 01:03:29.679
denomination as the national one. But for God's purpose they

1147
01:03:29.719 --> 01:03:33.320
needed each other. So at the Constitutional Convention excuse me,

1148
01:03:33.360 --> 01:03:36.960
the First Continental Congress in September of seventeen seventy four,

1149
01:03:37.039 --> 01:03:40.480
a motion was made open with prayer, and the delegate

1150
01:03:40.800 --> 01:03:44.599
Rutledge from South Carolina and Jay from New York objected,

1151
01:03:45.239 --> 01:03:48.480
and John Adams writes that we could not join together

1152
01:03:48.679 --> 01:03:52.559
in the same act of religious worship because we were

1153
01:03:52.559 --> 01:03:56.239
divided in our religious sentiments. And Sam Adams stands up, becaues,

1154
01:03:56.239 --> 01:03:58.440
I'm no bigot. I can hear a prayer of any

1155
01:03:58.519 --> 01:04:00.599
man of piety who, with the same time as a

1156
01:04:00.599 --> 01:04:03.199
friend and a patriot of our nation. And so they

1157
01:04:03.199 --> 01:04:07.599
prayed together, and God blessed us with independence. Now their

1158
01:04:07.639 --> 01:04:12.239
fear was that the new federal government would pick one

1159
01:04:12.320 --> 01:04:15.559
Christian denomination and make it the national one, which is

1160
01:04:15.559 --> 01:04:19.800
what every country in Europe did. England was Anglican, Scotland

1161
01:04:19.840 --> 01:04:23.920
was Presbyterian, Holland was Dutch Reformed, Germany was Lutheran, Switzerland,

1162
01:04:24.280 --> 01:04:27.679
you know, Italy Catholic, in Greece was Greek Orthodox, and

1163
01:04:27.960 --> 01:04:31.719
it was one denomination per country, and so we're setting

1164
01:04:31.800 --> 01:04:34.880
up a new country. Their only frame of reference is, okay,

1165
01:04:34.960 --> 01:04:38.079
we're going to pick one denomination, right, And they didn't

1166
01:04:38.079 --> 01:04:40.639
always agree. So they decided that they would put handcuffs

1167
01:04:40.679 --> 01:04:44.119
on the federal government called the First Ten Amendments. Congress

1168
01:04:44.280 --> 01:04:49.840
shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion. Respecting

1169
01:04:49.960 --> 01:04:53.519
means neither for nor against. It means concerning. And so

1170
01:04:53.679 --> 01:04:56.440
when the subject of religion comes before the federal government,

1171
01:04:56.480 --> 01:04:58.800
they're supposed to throw their hands up and say, we

1172
01:04:58.880 --> 01:05:03.119
have no jurisdiction. Religion is left under the state constitutions.

1173
01:05:03.159 --> 01:05:06.920
And that's what Joseph's story said. The First Chief Justice,

1174
01:05:07.760 --> 01:05:09.920
the whole power of the subject of religion is left

1175
01:05:09.960 --> 01:05:16.519
exclusively to state constitutions. And so I read through every

1176
01:05:16.519 --> 01:05:21.920
state constitution in seventeen seventy six. Nine of the original

1177
01:05:21.960 --> 01:05:27.039
state constitutions required office holders to be Protestant. I mean,

1178
01:05:27.119 --> 01:05:31.719
even South Carolina specifically said that Christian Protestant religion is

1179
01:05:31.760 --> 01:05:36.360
hereby deemed the established religion of the state. It's like, okay,

1180
01:05:37.800 --> 01:05:41.480
And then you had three states that were liberal, like

1181
01:05:41.920 --> 01:05:46.920
Delawar's state, Constitutions seventeen seventy six said every officer holder

1182
01:05:46.960 --> 01:05:49.119
had to believe in God, the Father, Jesus Christ, his

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only Son, the Holy Ghost, One God bless her ever more.

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We're talking with Bill Fetterer. He is the American Mintic

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creators come together to celebrate our nation's two hundred and

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fiftieth anniversary. What a grande for an exceptional country that's still,

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by all measure, Bill Fetter is the greatest country on

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God's green Earth. Right.

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Yeah, you know, if I were to sum up America

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in one word, it would be individual. That you have

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a worth because you individually are made in the image

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of the Creator, and he is not a respector a person.

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So all of us individuals are equal. It's different all

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the rest of the world. Your worth is not because

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you're made in the image of the Creator. It's what

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class you were born into. So if you're in a

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Muslim country and you're a Muslim male, you are worth

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bore than a Muslim female. Even Mohammed said that it

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takes two women to testify in court against one man

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because a woman's mind is deficient. If you're in a

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Hindu country, if you're a Brahmin in the highest cast

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you're worth more than an untouchable dalits in the lowest cast.

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You got to carry out dead bodies and clean the sewers.

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If you're in an atheistic country, your worth is dependent

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on your utility to the state. If you can contribute

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to the communist party, you're worth more. If you're not,

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they'll harvest your body, your organs and tell you. But

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in America, you're worth something, not because you're a Muslim male,

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not because you're useful to the state, not because you're

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a Brahmin. You're worth something because you're made in the

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image of God, exactly. And that's what John F. Kennedy

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said in his inaugural address. We believe that all men

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are created equal because we're created in the image of God.

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In Islam, Allah has no image. Right, This is a

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Bible idea. God is singular, so we're not talking Hinduism

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or Buddhism, right. And then Harrius Truman's in augural address,

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he said, we believe that Wait, no, Kennedy. Kennedy said,

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the rights of man coming out from the generosity of

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the state, from the hand of God. So that's Kennedy

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and HARRIEUS Truman nineteen forty nine said, we believe all

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men are created equal because we're created in the image

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of God. So I got the Truman quote quote and

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Franklin Kennedy quote, but they're both from their inaugural addresses.

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They're Democrat presidents. They're acknowledging God, They're acknowledging the uniqueness

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of America compared to the other countries of the world.

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Well, you know, going back to ther Ling Fount, you

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mentioned John Adams. You know John Adams, you know, declared

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that our constitution was designed for a moral people. Well,

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what's your morality based on Bill if it isn't scripture.

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Yeah, it's interesting. It's the God of the Bible. The

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Greeks had democracy, but they had a bunch of fickle

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deities Zeus and Herain. I mean, aphrodi How can you

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be accountable to Aphrodite, the goddess of love, when her

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temple has temple prostitutes. I mean, there's no concept of

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adjust God. It's these fickle gods that you have to

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appease all the time. The God of the Bible is just,

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and he's watching you, and he wants you to be fair.

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And God knew they would sin, so once a year

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they had the Day of Atonement, and they would sacrifice

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and sprinkle the blood of the lamb on the mercy seat,

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and everyone's sins were forgiven. And that's foreshadowing Jesus. He's

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our atonement, not just for the last year, but for

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all of our lives and all eternity. But the Bible

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God is a just God, and that's key. And then

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one of the Bible principles in our constitution is we're sinners,

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and that's sort of overlooked. Oh, the Constitution doesn't mention God. Well,

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I mean it does where it says done in the

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Year of our Lord. But it's based on a principle

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that we humans are falling creatures right original sin, and

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as such, we're selfish. And even if you have a

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good person and he's in office, he's going to be

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tempted to favor his family and friends over his political enemies,

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and it gets discretionary. So the founders had this idea,

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let's take the power of ruling, break it into three

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branches executive, legislative, judicialness pit him against each other in

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a three way tug of war. So the executive branch

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would always try to pull power away from the legislative

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and judicial, and the judicial branch would always try to

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pull power away from the executive and legislative ad vice

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versa is a three way tugle war. It's actually brilliant.

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It's like giving a Sunday school assignment where sinners keep

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other sinners from sinning. Right, design a system of government

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where sinners will keep other centers from sitting. That's what

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our constitution is. Because we don't have any angels on earth.

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The governess is what you in Madison said. All we

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got is us fallen creatures, and so it's pitting the

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selfishness against each other. And it worked. Then we separated

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power federal to state level. Our founders basically took the

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tower of Babbel and scattered it. They took the power

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of a concentrated rule, and they separated it intentionally. They

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actually designed a government to work inefficient on purpose, slow

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to making good decisions, but thank god, slow to making

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irreversible bad decisions.

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Right.

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I mean, they realized they could take a lifetime to

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build a mansion, and one irresponsible match to burn the

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thing down in a day.

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Exactly. Well, Bill, you know, you think about going back

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to what you were talking about the individualism that was

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foreseen by our founders, that they got that and what

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that meant in terms of the power of the individual

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And when you know, consider you know here we're what

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three hundred and fifty population, the collaborative intelligence of three

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hundred and fifty million people as individuals. I mean, that

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is a lot of power. And that's what has thrust

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America to this greatness that it has become. If America

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was socialistic and siloed, everybody would have been dumbed down.

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You know, we'd have been a nation of mediocrity, wouldn't we.

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Yeah, you know it's interesting. I wrote a book on

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socialism and we're a government from the consent of the government.

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But what if you could engineer consent of the government? Right?

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And so Edward Bernez, who was a marketing pioneer, wrote

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a book called The Engineering of Consent and he talks

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His uncle was Sigmund Freud, who studied group psychology and

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found out that we want to be accepted in a

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group and we fear being rejected by a group. And

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so all marketing is based on that. I mean, the

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whole fashion industry. We wear something because hey, we'll be

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and we won't wear that, And so he would use

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Joseph Gerbels studied Edward Burneese and said people will do

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Minister of propaganda for the Nazis. He would fill a

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of a football game, and it's getting closer to you.

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You'd feel pressured to give it. And then people would

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say you give it. They'd feel pressure to give it,

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01:18:41.680 --> 01:18:43.800
and everybody would leave the stadium saying, well, I guess

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everybody's in on this Nazi stuff because I saw them all.

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It was a manipulation of your perception of what everybody

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else believed and was. But even if they didn't, so

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now it's all done online, and that's why they want

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to censor views on the Internet and magnify other view

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is because they want to make the impression that everybody's

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going along with this, and subconsciously you don't want to

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be left out.

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And they're missing out, right.

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Yeah, And then with AI they can have a deception

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designed just for you. They can personalize it. So every

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interaction you do with the Internet, it is building a

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profile on you and learning your pleasures, your pains, your

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your fears, and your desires, and then it congratulate. The

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University of Zurich did a study that AI bots are

1433
01:19:34.199 --> 01:19:36.439
six times more effective at getting people to change their

1434
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opinions than humans are. And so the where government from

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01:19:42.920 --> 01:19:45.920
the consent of the governed. But if somebody is controlling

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all that apparatus as psychological operation, they can help engineer

1437
01:19:52.840 --> 01:19:55.039
the consent of the governed exactly.

1438
01:19:55.119 --> 01:19:57.920
And there's so many things coming at you that affect

1439
01:19:58.439 --> 01:20:02.279
that aspect, that that matrix right there, the consent of

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the government, whether it's ballot stuffing, AI and all this

1441
01:20:06.520 --> 01:20:09.079
manipulation that's going on in the power of the information

1442
01:20:09.159 --> 01:20:10.399
agent which we live in. Bill.

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01:20:11.479 --> 01:20:14.720
Yeah, they say that within a few years passwords will

1444
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be useless, that the AI will be able to crack

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01:20:17.600 --> 01:20:22.439
everything and know all information about everybody. It's called AGI

1446
01:20:22.600 --> 01:20:26.760
artificial general intelligence. And Elon Musk says, we have five years.

1447
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In other words, the collective Internet will know all of

1448
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human knowledge at once.

1449
01:20:34.359 --> 01:20:38.520
Maybe we'll find out who really killed JFK. Yeah, maybe,

1450
01:20:38.560 --> 01:20:40.520
Hi Bill, Hey Bill, We got to wrap things up.

1451
01:20:41.359 --> 01:20:43.800
We know that today. I mean, you know, the fourth

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of July, our founders, said John Adams envision fireworks and

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celebrations and everything. And here we are two hundred and

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fifty years and the celebrations, the fireworks, the picnics and

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everything are as Americana, red, white, and blue. Right.

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Yeah, well, you know George Washington, excuse me, King, George

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was thirty eight years old when we fought the Revolutionary War.

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Most of the founders were young men. Thomas Jefferson was

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thirty three years old when he penned the Declaration of Independence.

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Out of the fifty six signers, eleven had their homes destroyed,

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five one hundred down and captured, seventeen served in the military.

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Nine died in the war. One of the youngest signers,

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George Walton, was twenty seven years old when he signed

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the declaration. He was captured and wounded. Edward Rutledge was

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01:21:39.560 --> 01:21:43.640
twenty seven, and Thomas Hayward was thirty and all these

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young guys, Thomas Nelson was thirty eight. But they were

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willing to sacrifice their prosperity for their posterity. And so

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many today are doing the opposite, sacrificing our posterity with prospery.

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Aready sattling our kids with a forty trillion dollar debt.

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But every generation it's the price of liberties, eternal vigilance.

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What are the stories we love best? It's when things

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look hopeless and God raises up little nobody's with faith

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and courage. And whether it's a Gideon, a David, or

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a George Washington, or a Patrick Henry or a Thomas Jefferson,

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this is just our turn.

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Yeah, exactly. Well, Bill Fetters always appreciate you. Remind everybody

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if they want to subscribe to the American Minute how

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they can do that.

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Oh, thank you. My website's Americanminute dot com. Americanminute dot com,

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and I would love to be in touch with everyone.

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Happy fourth is July, my friend.

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Hey, Welcome back Bill Martinez here with Steve Bonta from

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The New American. He's a publisher of the New American magazine.

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Hey Steve, how you doing?

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Hey Bill?

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How are you doing?

1552
01:26:27.199 --> 01:26:30.439
Hey? I'm doing just a sidebar by the way. The

1553
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commemorative issue, I guess it's a collector's issue that you

1554
01:26:34.119 --> 01:26:36.479
did on the deep State, that your team did, it's

1555
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just absolutely outstanding. I've had more comments from friends in

1556
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my circle that I've mentioned about what a great job

1557
01:26:44.640 --> 01:26:47.239
you did in breaking down, you know, the history of

1558
01:26:47.239 --> 01:26:50.000
the deep State and dealing with some of these issues

1559
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that some would consider as conspiratorial.

1560
01:26:53.239 --> 01:26:56.359
Yes, well, thank you so much. We aimed to please

1561
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and we felt that a thirty years was time to

1562
01:26:59.359 --> 01:27:01.399
revisit the issue in a special issue.

1563
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So well.

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01:27:02.560 --> 01:27:04.560
And and like you said, it's you know for people

1565
01:27:04.600 --> 01:27:07.239
that you know think whenever you hear you know one

1566
01:27:07.359 --> 01:27:10.600
right here there, it is when you think about the

1567
01:27:10.640 --> 01:27:14.239
illuminati and you know the roots of you know, the

1568
01:27:14.239 --> 01:27:17.479
deep State, and really it just comes down to just

1569
01:27:17.520 --> 01:27:19.760
comes down to who's who's got the money, right.

1570
01:27:20.880 --> 01:27:22.800
Yeah, I mean certainly money is a large part of it.

1571
01:27:23.000 --> 01:27:25.119
There there are other issues as well, but yeah, I mean,

1572
01:27:25.840 --> 01:27:28.920
at some to some degree. I mean that the people

1573
01:27:29.000 --> 01:27:32.159
who are the ultimate movers and shakers behind what we

1574
01:27:32.199 --> 01:27:34.840
call the deep state, I think are perhaps maybe not

1575
01:27:34.880 --> 01:27:39.319
a political but they're certainly driven by an ideology. I mean,

1576
01:27:39.359 --> 01:27:43.239
they're not without ideology. They have goals. They have an ideology,

1577
01:27:43.279 --> 01:27:46.840
the ideology of power. I suppose that motivates them. So

1578
01:27:47.399 --> 01:27:50.119
I mean, and this accounts for their their zeal and

1579
01:27:50.159 --> 01:27:53.159
their tenacity in trying to achieve those those goals, not

1580
01:27:53.279 --> 01:27:57.640
just in a single country like the United States, but worldwide.

1581
01:27:58.239 --> 01:28:01.039
You know, it's interesting because Democrats are always accused of,

1582
01:28:01.479 --> 01:28:04.000
you know, being so interested in power and control, you know,

1583
01:28:04.000 --> 01:28:06.920
as Lindsey Graham would state it. But I got to

1584
01:28:06.920 --> 01:28:09.359
tell you, the deep stater ors make the Democrats look like,

1585
01:28:10.039 --> 01:28:12.399
you know, their little pawns on a bigger chessboard.

1586
01:28:13.880 --> 01:28:17.800
Well, sure, I mean the Democratic Party being I guess

1587
01:28:17.880 --> 01:28:21.479
what would have once been called the court faction. You know,

1588
01:28:21.680 --> 01:28:24.399
it's the party whose whose raizone deetra is to defend

1589
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the status quo and to follow power wherever it leads.

1590
01:28:30.239 --> 01:28:33.159
And you know, the Republicans, until recently have been primarily

1591
01:28:33.199 --> 01:28:35.800
the loyal opposition, have a different, differentunct, so they're you know,

1592
01:28:35.800 --> 01:28:40.560
the Democratic Party, certainly in the United States, is more

1593
01:28:41.640 --> 01:28:45.359
in sympathetic certainly to the aims of the globalists and

1594
01:28:45.399 --> 01:28:48.640
the radical left and the other main factions within this

1595
01:28:48.640 --> 01:28:51.840
this you know, the deep state, the conspiracy that's that's

1596
01:28:51.920 --> 01:28:58.159
trying to to radically overhaul the culture government and you know,

1597
01:28:58.199 --> 01:29:02.399
the totality of the United States and recondition it so

1598
01:29:02.439 --> 01:29:05.039
that it will fit with a new world order. I mean,

1599
01:29:05.039 --> 01:29:07.239
that's a term people hear that they can spirit. That's

1600
01:29:07.239 --> 01:29:10.479
actually the term that they've used for centuries to describe

1601
01:29:10.600 --> 01:29:11.920
this utopian project.

1602
01:29:12.600 --> 01:29:14.600
Yeah, because how many people are we talking you know,

1603
01:29:14.720 --> 01:29:18.520
maybe a thousand or so elites, I mean, uber elites

1604
01:29:19.079 --> 01:29:23.560
that are very private and secretive, that are the lever pullers,

1605
01:29:23.840 --> 01:29:28.319
as you say, looking in terms of an ultimate goal

1606
01:29:28.800 --> 01:29:32.079
of global control and power, right.

1607
01:29:32.920 --> 01:29:34.720
I mean, it's I don't know how many there are.

1608
01:29:34.760 --> 01:29:39.199
It's certainly a small minority of people, but actually there

1609
01:29:39.319 --> 01:29:41.359
is a large I mean there there are different layers

1610
01:29:41.359 --> 01:29:42.720
to it is. There are a large number of people

1611
01:29:42.720 --> 01:29:47.560
who are ideological supporters in varying degrees, and it's hard

1612
01:29:47.560 --> 01:29:49.560
to know, you know, those who at the apex of

1613
01:29:49.600 --> 01:29:51.520
the power of power, so to speak, how many they

1614
01:29:51.520 --> 01:29:55.119
may actually be, but they're certainly found all over the world,

1615
01:29:55.720 --> 01:29:59.960
you know, and and speak different languages and at least

1616
01:30:00.039 --> 01:30:04.439
professedly belong to different you know, religions and cultures and

1617
01:30:04.479 --> 01:30:08.640
this kind of thing. But but in their innermost convictions

1618
01:30:08.640 --> 01:30:11.319
they are globalists. They don't they don't, you know, those

1619
01:30:11.319 --> 01:30:14.039
things are are just are just trappings are are you know,

1620
01:30:14.159 --> 01:30:17.920
are our superficialities, so you know, And and many of

1621
01:30:17.960 --> 01:30:20.479
them probably are not household names. I mean, we tend

1622
01:30:20.479 --> 01:30:22.800
to say, oh, well, this billionaire or that politician, those

1623
01:30:22.840 --> 01:30:25.239
are those are the are the deep state, But a

1624
01:30:25.239 --> 01:30:28.399
lot of them are people who are uh, you know,

1625
01:30:28.439 --> 01:30:30.840
perhaps not so well known to the general public or

1626
01:30:30.880 --> 01:30:34.159
not at all, who wild power and and you know,

1627
01:30:34.199 --> 01:30:36.960
and characterizing it, I mean, I find the term deep

1628
01:30:36.960 --> 01:30:41.840
state to be not misleading, but perhaps limiting, because it

1629
01:30:42.239 --> 01:30:49.399
implies that at root this movement is is political and

1630
01:30:49.399 --> 01:30:51.079
and that's no more accurate than to say, well, it's

1631
01:30:51.119 --> 01:30:52.960
just a bunch of you know, central bankers, you know,

1632
01:30:52.960 --> 01:30:54.640
I mean, that's part of it too. But it's not

1633
01:30:54.840 --> 01:30:58.720
purely about money either. At root, it is actually spiritual

1634
01:30:59.159 --> 01:31:03.960
and the political and the financial and the cultural ramifications

1635
01:31:04.000 --> 01:31:06.520
are aspects of it. But yet rude. I mean there's

1636
01:31:06.760 --> 01:31:09.760
a there's a powerful spiritual or dare I say, anti

1637
01:31:10.159 --> 01:31:14.399
spiritual conviction among the people. And I mean one example

1638
01:31:14.399 --> 01:31:16.359
of this, and this is not a contemporary figure, but

1639
01:31:16.399 --> 01:31:19.760
someone who lived several hundred years ago is John D.

1640
01:31:20.239 --> 01:31:22.119
Most people have no idea. I mentioned John D and

1641
01:31:22.119 --> 01:31:23.640
one of my artor and most people have no idea

1642
01:31:23.680 --> 01:31:25.279
who this guy John D was. Well, I'll tell you

1643
01:31:25.399 --> 01:31:31.920
he was. He was a practitioner of black magic, including necromancy,

1644
01:31:32.000 --> 01:31:36.039
which is where you try to raise the dead black

1645
01:31:36.359 --> 01:31:38.800
black magic. He actually did this with a guy named

1646
01:31:38.880 --> 01:31:40.520
or tried to. I don't know how successful he was,

1647
01:31:40.720 --> 01:31:44.319
but he went into graveyards and tried to raise dead

1648
01:31:44.359 --> 01:31:47.640
people and commune with spirits with an even more sinister

1649
01:31:47.760 --> 01:31:51.640
character named Edward Kelly, who followed him around. He was

1650
01:31:51.800 --> 01:31:54.680
fascinated with all aspects of the occult. You say, okay,

1651
01:31:54.680 --> 01:31:58.039
well he sounds like a really weird fringe character. Well,

1652
01:31:58.279 --> 01:32:03.039
he was also a polymath at the apex of elizabethan

1653
01:32:03.079 --> 01:32:06.640
England's you know, kind of not only academic but political scene.

1654
01:32:06.720 --> 01:32:08.840
And he was a privy counselor to Queen Elizabeth the

1655
01:32:08.920 --> 01:32:12.760
First and he was the guy who is credited with

1656
01:32:12.800 --> 01:32:15.840
thinking up the idea of the British Empire. It was

1657
01:32:15.840 --> 01:32:18.239
his idea. He went to Elizabeth and said, you know,

1658
01:32:18.560 --> 01:32:20.920
here's what we need to do to change the world.

1659
01:32:20.920 --> 01:32:23.760
We need to take all of these wonderful civilized laws

1660
01:32:23.760 --> 01:32:25.920
and this whole system of British civilization, and we need

1661
01:32:25.960 --> 01:32:28.600
to find a way to extend it worldwide. And we're

1662
01:32:28.600 --> 01:32:31.720
going to do this by you know, uh. And and

1663
01:32:31.760 --> 01:32:34.800
he proposed this this project. And so you can find

1664
01:32:34.800 --> 01:32:37.159
that in Wikipedia. That's actually not secret. Most people are

1665
01:32:37.199 --> 01:32:39.359
just unaware of the fact that the guy who thunk

1666
01:32:39.439 --> 01:32:42.880
up the British Empire, one of the most consequential events

1667
01:32:42.880 --> 01:32:47.720
of the last thousand years was this weirdoes. Yeah, so

1668
01:32:47.800 --> 01:32:50.239
this kind of shows and and and and and as

1669
01:32:50.279 --> 01:32:52.159
his motivation to this, I don't think it was you know,

1670
01:32:52.199 --> 01:32:55.680
petty partisan politics or whatever was the equivalent thereof back

1671
01:32:55.720 --> 01:32:58.479
in Elizabethan, England. It was it was owing to his

1672
01:32:58.600 --> 01:33:02.640
spiritual view and in his case and many others like him,

1673
01:33:02.640 --> 01:33:05.640
people who inclined towards the occult, this idea and the

1674
01:33:05.640 --> 01:33:10.239
perfectibility of man, this idea that that we ourselves are

1675
01:33:10.279 --> 01:33:13.720
capable of bringing about earthly paradise. I mean, that's certainly

1676
01:33:13.760 --> 01:33:16.399
the motive. That's that's what socialism is in a fact.

1677
01:33:16.319 --> 01:33:20.199
Right exactly. Yeah, Yeah, it's basically godless, I would think,

1678
01:33:20.239 --> 01:33:22.600
even though they may claim some sort of you know,

1679
01:33:22.760 --> 01:33:28.800
religious ideology, but it is, you know, it seems to

1680
01:33:28.800 --> 01:33:32.960
be humanistic more so. And as you mentioned, you know,

1681
01:33:33.000 --> 01:33:36.520
they like not having their names and lights. They don't

1682
01:33:36.560 --> 01:33:39.920
want to be noted figures, it would seem.

1683
01:33:40.119 --> 01:33:40.319
Yeah.

1684
01:33:40.359 --> 01:33:42.600
And I mean, unlike in John D's day, where some

1685
01:33:42.640 --> 01:33:45.720
of these these these occult guys had sort of rock

1686
01:33:45.760 --> 01:33:48.199
star status because that was the age when things like

1687
01:33:48.279 --> 01:33:52.119
alchemy were very celebrated. Still your latter day John D's

1688
01:33:52.279 --> 01:33:54.399
are not, you know, not the sort of people that

1689
01:33:54.560 --> 01:33:57.439
most people are aware of. I mean probably the last

1690
01:33:57.439 --> 01:34:00.880
such I would think would probably be probably Auster Crowley,

1691
01:34:00.920 --> 01:34:02.680
and he's of course been dead for a long time,

1692
01:34:03.239 --> 01:34:05.239
but he was kind of a celebrated cultist, and he

1693
01:34:05.279 --> 01:34:08.359
was very influential politically too. He was he had his

1694
01:34:08.479 --> 01:34:12.359
contacts in the highest you know, corridors of power in

1695
01:34:12.399 --> 01:34:14.560
both you know, Britain and the United States, and was

1696
01:34:14.640 --> 01:34:17.600
highly and remains highly influential. I mean, certainly in the

1697
01:34:17.600 --> 01:34:20.399
world of entertainment. It's it's hard to you know, to

1698
01:34:20.479 --> 01:34:23.960
comb through much of the output of of Hollywood without

1699
01:34:23.960 --> 01:34:26.279
coming up with references to Aleister Crowley and to his

1700
01:34:26.439 --> 01:34:30.479
exactly his beliefs so called Thelema and everything else his philosophy. So,

1701
01:34:31.239 --> 01:34:32.920
you know, and then there are people like that today.

1702
01:34:32.920 --> 01:34:34.359
Most of them are you know, are not not well.

1703
01:34:34.399 --> 01:34:37.239
I'm not saying they're all occultists like like Crowley, but

1704
01:34:37.279 --> 01:34:40.239
I am saying that, you know, I mean, Adolf Hitler

1705
01:34:40.279 --> 01:34:42.880
once made a comment about Nazism. He said, people that

1706
01:34:43.199 --> 01:34:45.960
look at Nazism, and I'm paraphrasing, but he said, people

1707
01:34:46.000 --> 01:34:49.640
who see Nazism as just a political movement don't understand

1708
01:34:49.640 --> 01:34:52.680
what it's about. And in that he was telling the truth, right,

1709
01:34:52.680 --> 01:34:57.079
because Nazism also originated as an occult movement. You know,

1710
01:34:57.119 --> 01:35:01.479
the Tula Gazellschaft, which Hitler in all the inner circle

1711
01:35:01.520 --> 01:35:04.920
of Nazi belonged to, wasn't a cult organization, and it

1712
01:35:04.960 --> 01:35:07.279
was derived from what we would now call the you know,

1713
01:35:07.319 --> 01:35:10.199
the Early New Age or you know, movement of the

1714
01:35:10.520 --> 01:35:15.600
Theosophical Society, and you know Helena Plovotsky and any Bizant

1715
01:35:15.640 --> 01:35:17.279
and all that crowd. You know, Again, these are not

1716
01:35:17.319 --> 01:35:21.079
necessarily household names anymore unless people into the occult, you know,

1717
01:35:21.119 --> 01:35:23.439
which I do not recommend, by the way. But the

1718
01:35:23.520 --> 01:35:27.760
point being is that that again Nazism, which was a terrible,

1719
01:35:27.960 --> 01:35:33.479
enormously you know, uh, consequential part of you know, the

1720
01:35:33.520 --> 01:35:37.000
globalism in the mid twentieth century, you know, and obviously

1721
01:35:37.119 --> 01:35:40.960
rot Cheryl Havock was ultimately spiritual in nature. And I

1722
01:35:41.279 --> 01:35:43.279
this is, this is the important thing to bear in mind.

1723
01:35:43.960 --> 01:35:46.239
These people are you know, some of them. They may

1724
01:35:46.239 --> 01:35:49.680
be atheistic, but they do have their their their philosophy

1725
01:35:49.720 --> 01:35:53.399
and their goals and and and which animates them well.

1726
01:35:53.439 --> 01:35:55.840
And this is why they embraced, I believe, embraced in

1727
01:35:55.920 --> 01:36:00.960
part Darwinism. You know so uh you know it so

1728
01:36:01.840 --> 01:36:05.680
how I want to say, you know so easily, let's

1729
01:36:05.680 --> 01:36:06.279
put it that way.

1730
01:36:07.680 --> 01:36:09.720
Yeah, well, and many other things. It's one of the

1731
01:36:09.720 --> 01:36:12.800
reasons for their tremendous patience. I mean, you want to say, well,

1732
01:36:13.039 --> 01:36:15.840
you know, I I often hear the idea of conspiracy

1733
01:36:16.039 --> 01:36:18.600
debunked on more or less at this base. Rush Limbaugh

1734
01:36:18.680 --> 01:36:20.640
used to do this, used to say, well, you know,

1735
01:36:21.000 --> 01:36:24.319
it's impossible to keep a conspiracy secret. You know, these

1736
01:36:24.319 --> 01:36:27.920
people and to an extent, he's right in the sense

1737
01:36:27.960 --> 01:36:29.960
that if you look out, if you look at the evidence,

1738
01:36:30.000 --> 01:36:33.239
it's not really that secret. You know, there are admissions

1739
01:36:33.239 --> 01:36:38.800
against interest, you know. Obviously Carol Quigley's book Tragedy and

1740
01:36:38.840 --> 01:36:41.680
Hope is a really good example of that. And and

1741
01:36:41.760 --> 01:36:43.199
but there are others as well. I mean, if you

1742
01:36:43.560 --> 01:36:46.039
can't read the writings of any of these prominent occult

1743
01:36:46.039 --> 01:36:50.159
people from John D onward without coming into, you know,

1744
01:36:50.159 --> 01:36:54.119
across references of a secret global elite brotherhood. They call

1745
01:36:54.159 --> 01:36:55.720
it by different names, but they all have the same

1746
01:36:56.000 --> 01:36:58.039
the same thing. They say, the world is secretly controlled

1747
01:36:58.039 --> 01:37:01.560
by these people. And they're good, you know, because their

1748
01:37:01.560 --> 01:37:03.560
aims are noble in all this, and they know each

1749
01:37:03.560 --> 01:37:05.279
other and they speak to every but you know, they

1750
01:37:05.359 --> 01:37:07.640
all the same thing. Well, are they all just making

1751
01:37:07.680 --> 01:37:11.640
this stuff up? Obviously, you know, the the the the

1752
01:37:11.680 --> 01:37:14.000
skeptic is going to say, well, they're just all making up.

1753
01:37:14.000 --> 01:37:15.720
But are they all making up the same story?

1754
01:37:15.960 --> 01:37:16.159
You know?

1755
01:37:16.159 --> 01:37:18.520
I mean, you know, the whole idea of so called

1756
01:37:18.640 --> 01:37:22.520
esotericism is the idea of this, there's this this group

1757
01:37:23.119 --> 01:37:26.920
worldwide that has this has this power. I choose to

1758
01:37:26.920 --> 01:37:30.880
believe it. I mean, I see enough evidence suggest that

1759
01:37:30.960 --> 01:37:33.439
this that this is essentially a correct picture.

1760
01:37:34.079 --> 01:37:36.600
We've got more from Steve Bonta from the New American

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Hey, welcome back. We're talking with Steve Bonta. He is

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the publisher for the New American magazine. When you look

1839
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at the fruit on the tree, I mean, the tree

1840
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is going to bear a specific fruit based on its

1841
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root system, and so it's quite telling. I mean you

1842
01:41:54.479 --> 01:41:58.880
have to really just you know, purposely blind yourself, you know,

1843
01:41:58.960 --> 01:42:01.840
to that reality to see these underpinnings that are going

1844
01:42:01.880 --> 01:42:04.760
on and of course that are being manifest more and

1845
01:42:04.800 --> 01:42:07.000
more in our country today and we're going to talk

1846
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about that in just a moment. But to kind of

1847
01:42:08.840 --> 01:42:12.920
wrap things up again, congratulations on this, uh, you know,

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on this publication and this special COMMANDMENTTIVE magazine, Steve. How

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can people access it?

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Well, it's a you can order it online to go

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to the New American dot com our website again here

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I'm we're very proud of this issue and it's selling

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very well and we're hoping that it opens opens more

1858
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eyes as to the the I mean, there are lots

1859
01:42:46.520 --> 01:42:49.880
and lots of people Bill out there who are sympathetic

1860
01:42:49.920 --> 01:42:52.760
in varying degrees to to the to the cause of

1861
01:42:52.840 --> 01:42:56.439
freedom and limited government, all this stuff which is so important.

1862
01:42:57.239 --> 01:43:00.000
But it's important, you know, to understand also from where

1863
01:43:00.279 --> 01:43:05.199
the opposition derives its vitality. Why is it that it's

1864
01:43:05.279 --> 01:43:08.520
so hard to win this fight? Why is it that

1865
01:43:08.560 --> 01:43:11.079
it always seems like two steps forward, three steps back.

1866
01:43:11.520 --> 01:43:14.640
And the answer is because the enemy is organized, and

1867
01:43:15.359 --> 01:43:20.000
no complete accounting of the freedom struggle is possible without

1868
01:43:20.039 --> 01:43:23.640
acknowledging that, without saying, you know, understanding somewhat the nature

1869
01:43:24.119 --> 01:43:25.199
of the enemy face.

1870
01:43:25.720 --> 01:43:27.960
Well, you're exactly right. I see the enemy working a

1871
01:43:28.000 --> 01:43:30.279
lot harder. I mean, look at what's happening, you know,

1872
01:43:30.319 --> 01:43:33.119
across our country with the Democratic Socialist I mean, they're

1873
01:43:33.119 --> 01:43:35.079
out of the closet, full blown. I mean we've known

1874
01:43:35.119 --> 01:43:37.359
this for a long time, you know, for decades that

1875
01:43:37.800 --> 01:43:41.760
this was a you know, a growing organization, and now

1876
01:43:41.800 --> 01:43:44.760
here they are. I mean, they've captured you know, the

1877
01:43:44.840 --> 01:43:47.640
mayor's seat in New York. You've got three candidates in

1878
01:43:47.760 --> 01:43:51.640
New York heading you know, potentially to Congress, and they're

1879
01:43:51.760 --> 01:43:56.680
very outspoken about their Democratic Socialistic not even leanings, but

1880
01:43:56.760 --> 01:43:57.439
their commitment.

1881
01:43:58.319 --> 01:43:58.680
Yeah.

1882
01:43:58.720 --> 01:44:03.279
Absolutely, And I mean I mean that's obviously. Socialism is

1883
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the main kind of the public face of this of

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this this drive for for for for global control, and

1885
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you know, this type of thing we call it socialism,

1886
01:44:13.119 --> 01:44:19.079
but it's it's just the ideology of pure amorl collectivized power,

1887
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that's all it is. And everything that and again with

1888
01:44:22.840 --> 01:44:26.359
and even with socialism just just confining our our analysis

1889
01:44:26.359 --> 01:44:29.800
socialist people often make the mistake of saying, well, socialism

1890
01:44:29.840 --> 01:44:34.680
is basically this this political and economic theory, and it's not.

1891
01:44:35.000 --> 01:44:37.119
If you look at the origins of socialism, you find

1892
01:44:37.119 --> 01:44:39.920
that all of the you know, the people it was

1893
01:44:39.960 --> 01:44:43.039
also a radical social experiment. I mean, all the first

1894
01:44:43.039 --> 01:44:46.239
socialist communes were all into getting rid of marriage and

1895
01:44:46.279 --> 01:44:48.720
the family and having you know, as they called it

1896
01:44:48.760 --> 01:44:50.960
then and and now free love and all the rest

1897
01:44:50.960 --> 01:44:55.119
of this. There's always been this counter cultural, moral or

1898
01:44:55.159 --> 01:44:59.000
anti moral dimension of the thing we call socialism. So

1899
01:44:59.159 --> 01:45:01.279
just looking at it as a like a politically a

1900
01:45:01.279 --> 01:45:06.159
political partisan thing, or maybe an instance of extreme you know,

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01:45:06.239 --> 01:45:10.000
but purely political zealotry is it doesn't, you know, fails

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01:45:10.000 --> 01:45:12.680
to capture the totality of what socialism is. And so

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01:45:12.680 --> 01:45:13.399
there's nothing.

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At all.

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Inconsistent about the fact that the same people who are

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01:45:18.960 --> 01:45:23.920
espousing uh socialist you know, economic and political collectivism are

1907
01:45:23.920 --> 01:45:26.239
also a spouse, are trying to get rid of the family,

1908
01:45:26.600 --> 01:45:31.000
are trying to destroy family values, are implacable foes of

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01:45:31.119 --> 01:45:34.640
organized religions, particularly Christianity, all that kind of thing. It's

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all of a peace.

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01:45:36.840 --> 01:45:42.960
Right and in all the years of human history, what

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01:45:43.159 --> 01:45:45.920
success record. Can you point to and say, you see

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01:45:45.960 --> 01:45:49.880
here during the Roman Empire or you know during you know,

1914
01:45:50.000 --> 01:45:53.760
another empire, it worked brilliantly, or you know the Russians

1915
01:45:53.760 --> 01:45:56.960
handled it, or you know whatever. I mean. Every time

1916
01:45:57.039 --> 01:46:02.079
you look at socialism as a history element, you see mediocrity,

1917
01:46:02.119 --> 01:46:05.720
You see devastation, human carnage. So here it is the

1918
01:46:06.199 --> 01:46:08.720
striving to have it your way, like as if you're

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01:46:08.840 --> 01:46:12.199
ordering up a hamburger. You end up in the process

1920
01:46:12.279 --> 01:46:16.479
just you know, debilitating the social norms and the things

1921
01:46:16.520 --> 01:46:19.039
that brought you to the dance, and you've just blown

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01:46:19.079 --> 01:46:20.880
up the whole party.

1923
01:46:21.600 --> 01:46:23.199
Well that's true, and I think that a lot of

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01:46:23.199 --> 01:46:26.399
people on the left, at least the more intelligent ones,

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01:46:26.840 --> 01:46:32.119
they know this. But they're motivated by a desire to

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01:46:32.239 --> 01:46:36.439
destroy the existing order, and if that can be accomplished

1927
01:46:36.920 --> 01:46:39.279
by socialism, then so be it. I mean, the whole

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01:46:39.760 --> 01:46:43.079
the term radical comes from the word for root radics, right,

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01:46:43.279 --> 01:46:46.319
and the idea is that the only thing that will

1930
01:46:46.319 --> 01:46:50.800
suffice to bring about this aforementioned earthly paradise, you know, this,

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01:46:50.800 --> 01:46:55.560
this this utopia that human kind of God listened to. Utopia,

1932
01:46:55.600 --> 01:46:58.479
I have to say, you know, you know, done by

1933
01:46:58.479 --> 01:47:03.640
the hands of man is the total uprooting of everything

1934
01:47:03.640 --> 01:47:06.159
that went before. And of course, anyone who you know,

1935
01:47:06.560 --> 01:47:09.039
who knows anything about gardening. What if you pull a

1936
01:47:09.079 --> 01:47:12.159
planet by its roots, you kill it? Yes, but that's

1937
01:47:12.159 --> 01:47:14.880
what they want to do, is to kill utterly. And

1938
01:47:14.920 --> 01:47:18.720
if that means, you know, the death of billions of

1939
01:47:18.760 --> 01:47:24.399
souls and the desolation spoken of by Tacitus, then so

1940
01:47:24.520 --> 01:47:27.600
be it. As long as you know, we can emerge

1941
01:47:27.600 --> 01:47:31.359
at the far end with something new, something radically new.

1942
01:47:31.399 --> 01:47:36.720
We will finally have banished God and morality and all

1943
01:47:36.720 --> 01:47:39.359
the other things that they consider to be the source

1944
01:47:39.920 --> 01:47:42.399
of all of the ills and troubles on this earth,

1945
01:47:42.439 --> 01:47:45.159
and will have created this new temporal paradise that will

1946
01:47:45.199 --> 01:47:47.680
not be encumbered anymore by those things. People will to

1947
01:47:47.720 --> 01:47:49.680
do what they want. That will be the whole of

1948
01:47:49.680 --> 01:47:52.840
the law, as Aleister Crowley famously put it, you know,

1949
01:47:53.159 --> 01:47:56.079
and and that will suffice. And if and if to

1950
01:47:56.119 --> 01:47:59.239
get from there, from here to there, we have to

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01:47:59.479 --> 01:48:04.239
sacrifice most of humanity on a modern day you know,

1952
01:48:04.600 --> 01:48:07.600
alter of Moloch, well, so be it. Yeah, I mean,

1953
01:48:07.640 --> 01:48:09.680
obviously you have to to break a lot of eggs

1954
01:48:09.880 --> 01:48:13.560
to make this particular omelet. That's that's the reasoning. So

1955
01:48:13.720 --> 01:48:16.720
I think you know a lot of them, you know,

1956
01:48:16.960 --> 01:48:21.079
do know that theirs is a recipe for desolation and destruction.

1957
01:48:21.640 --> 01:48:24.000
But that's what they want, you know, they say, some

1958
01:48:24.000 --> 01:48:26.079
people just want to watch the world burn. That's kind

1959
01:48:26.079 --> 01:48:28.159
of become a bit of a of a punchline, but

1960
01:48:28.199 --> 01:48:29.680
it's actually true.

1961
01:48:29.680 --> 01:48:33.239
Right, that's what. And they're not satisfied with socialism. I mean,

1962
01:48:33.279 --> 01:48:36.760
socialism is faced. It's the yellow brick road to communism, right,

1963
01:48:37.159 --> 01:48:39.920
I mean, it's not a big leap once you once

1964
01:48:39.960 --> 01:48:43.359
you become a socialist, you know, the transition to communism

1965
01:48:43.600 --> 01:48:45.880
is you know, almost natural.

1966
01:48:46.600 --> 01:48:49.960
Well, communism is is sort of a specialized form of socialism.

1967
01:48:50.159 --> 01:48:53.479
Most communists will say, I mean, like the Chinese Communist Party,

1968
01:48:53.319 --> 01:48:56.680
they they anymore, they say, well, we're socialist, you know,

1969
01:48:56.720 --> 01:49:01.520
I mean, socialism is the more correct term. Communism generally

1970
01:49:01.560 --> 01:49:05.640
nowadays refers to a specific brand of socialism advocated by

1971
01:49:05.720 --> 01:49:10.520
Karl Marx and that crowd, and a lot of people

1972
01:49:10.520 --> 01:49:13.760
like the Fabian Socialists for example, really don't believe in

1973
01:49:13.800 --> 01:49:17.199
that because they say, you know, this this abrupt, violent

1974
01:49:17.319 --> 01:49:21.439
revolutionary scheme that communism requires ain't gonna work. What we

1975
01:49:21.479 --> 01:49:24.039
need to do is is is erect the house of

1976
01:49:24.079 --> 01:49:28.520
socialist world order bit by bit gradually, you know, basically,

1977
01:49:28.520 --> 01:49:32.479
transform hearts and minds and you know, if necessary, rule

1978
01:49:32.520 --> 01:49:35.560
and ruin. But you know what, but but more this

1979
01:49:35.680 --> 01:49:38.600
more gradualist approach. And then the other problem, you know,

1980
01:49:39.199 --> 01:49:41.920
and the reason that modern day Marxists oftentimes you know,

1981
01:49:42.000 --> 01:49:45.079
reject you know, the the communist recipe.

1982
01:49:45.079 --> 01:49:45.439
Per sayes.

1983
01:49:45.479 --> 01:49:47.479
They say, well, you know, the problem with communism is,

1984
01:49:47.720 --> 01:49:50.119
you know, it only it only works if you have

1985
01:49:50.199 --> 01:49:53.520
a large uneducated peasantry, like the head in Russia or China.

1986
01:49:53.720 --> 01:49:56.680
And that's why communism has never really taken root, you know,

1987
01:49:56.800 --> 01:50:00.000
taken over in countries that have higher standards of living,

1988
01:50:00.199 --> 01:50:00.760
education and.

1989
01:50:00.720 --> 01:50:01.479
So forth and so on.

1990
01:50:01.560 --> 01:50:03.920
So so there are you know, some differences in that.

1991
01:50:03.960 --> 01:50:07.640
But you know, Marxism writ large certainly, you know, embraces

1992
01:50:07.680 --> 01:50:08.479
all of the above.

1993
01:50:08.960 --> 01:50:10.840
Well you look at what happened with Germany. I mean,

1994
01:50:11.039 --> 01:50:14.640
Germany was a pretty you know, intellectual, uh you know

1995
01:50:14.760 --> 01:50:17.680
country at the time. Of course we're talking communism and

1996
01:50:17.720 --> 01:50:21.319
we're talking fascism as opposed to communism. But you know,

1997
01:50:21.840 --> 01:50:26.960
any ism whatsoever, you know that relies on a constituency

1998
01:50:27.000 --> 01:50:30.800
that's been dumbed down and mediocritized. You could argue that

1999
01:50:31.279 --> 01:50:34.439
our educational system has been very effective in doing that

2000
01:50:34.640 --> 01:50:35.760
with this new generation.

2001
01:50:36.359 --> 01:50:37.960
Yeah. Well, I mean the thing is, again, if I

2002
01:50:38.000 --> 01:50:39.520
were a new world order, right, I'd be looking at

2003
01:50:39.520 --> 01:50:41.960
the Nazis and saying, that's not the that's not what

2004
01:50:42.039 --> 01:50:44.520
I want to do, because look, it didn't last very long, right,

2005
01:50:44.800 --> 01:50:47.560
I mean, it was obviously a failure. They tried to

2006
01:50:47.560 --> 01:50:51.199
do too much too quickly, and so you know, ended

2007
01:50:51.279 --> 01:50:53.479
up coming a croppers of the rest of the world.

2008
01:50:53.560 --> 01:50:56.439
We know what happened to Nazism. So so what they're

2009
01:50:56.479 --> 01:50:58.720
what they're saying instead is they say, well, let's how

2010
01:50:58.720 --> 01:51:01.479
can we make this permit it? You know, how can

2011
01:51:01.520 --> 01:51:05.640
we how can we ease humanity through this radical transition

2012
01:51:05.840 --> 01:51:08.600
into a new, entirely new order and make sure that

2013
01:51:08.640 --> 01:51:11.039
it sticks, you know, and make sure that we never

2014
01:51:11.119 --> 01:51:15.960
return to a time of sovereign nations and you know,

2015
01:51:16.039 --> 01:51:18.000
religious faith and all the you know, belief in a

2016
01:51:18.039 --> 01:51:21.720
god that doesn't exist, you know, fairy tales and all

2017
01:51:21.760 --> 01:51:25.399
this type of thing. Again, that's what they think. So

2018
01:51:26.319 --> 01:51:30.399
you know, in their in their hidden conclaves and conferences

2019
01:51:30.399 --> 01:51:32.199
and so forth. I mean, I have no doubt this

2020
01:51:32.279 --> 01:51:33.760
is the kind of thing that they're that they that

2021
01:51:33.800 --> 01:51:38.439
they discuss, you know, very serious terms. Is how do

2022
01:51:38.479 --> 01:51:40.520
you bring this about and make it stick?

2023
01:51:41.600 --> 01:51:45.439
See about thirty seconds left. What about the hope for America.

2024
01:51:45.560 --> 01:51:46.760
I'm gonna let you wrap it up.

2025
01:51:46.800 --> 01:51:47.159
Go ahead.

2026
01:51:47.960 --> 01:51:51.640
Well, the hope for America resides in bringing these hidden

2027
01:51:51.680 --> 01:51:55.600
things to light and in also instilling in people and

2028
01:51:55.680 --> 01:51:59.560
appreciation of the positive values of the founders, you know,

2029
01:51:59.680 --> 01:52:02.640
the the fact that there is a God that he

2030
01:52:02.760 --> 01:52:06.680
has given to us unalienable rights that make us who

2031
01:52:06.720 --> 01:52:10.960
we are, that the proper state of man in this

2032
01:52:11.039 --> 01:52:15.279
world and universe is as a free moral agent, not

2033
01:52:15.399 --> 01:52:19.159
a slave or a chattel, and everything that flows from that,

2034
01:52:19.239 --> 01:52:22.640
and the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. So all

2035
01:52:22.640 --> 01:52:24.960
of these things work together, and when we have enough

2036
01:52:24.960 --> 01:52:28.319
people with that critical understanding, we're going to have a

2037
01:52:28.359 --> 01:52:31.359
free country again, and the tide will turn well.

2038
01:52:31.399 --> 01:52:33.359
And here we are on the verge of celebrating two

2039
01:52:33.439 --> 01:52:36.520
hundred and fifty years, and we have Europeans and people

2040
01:52:36.560 --> 01:52:39.800
from around the world coming into our country and celebrating

2041
01:52:39.920 --> 01:52:44.520
our country and helping us appreciate just how exceptional the

2042
01:52:44.640 --> 01:52:46.359
United States of America is right.

2043
01:52:46.920 --> 01:52:48.520
Yeah, yeah, and good for them. Who would have thought

2044
01:52:48.520 --> 01:52:51.640
the World Cup would be such a transformative political event,

2045
01:52:51.720 --> 01:52:52.720
but hey, we'll take it.

2046
01:52:53.079 --> 01:52:55.439
Yeah, absolutely, I'm with you. He's the publisher of the

2047
01:52:55.479 --> 01:52:58.279
New American magazine, Steve Bonta. Thank you, Steve, Take care,

2048
01:52:58.359 --> 01:52:59.720
God bless Thanks Bill.

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Sam.

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