July 2, 2026

The Bill Martinez Show 07 02 26

The Bill Martinez Show 07 02 26
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The Bill Martinez Show 07 02 26
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Are you ready, Yeah, Okay, let's do it.

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Bill Martinez Live a program about current events, our culture,

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our values, our politics, and our future.

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And now Bill Martinez.

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Well, happy fourth of July to America. Bill Martinez here

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just about six minutes after the top of the hour,

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and Mike O'Neil from Landmark Legal joins us. Now, Hey, Michael,

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Hey you nobuddy doing okay?

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Bill?

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Happy forth. Good to be with you.

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Yeah, always good to have you here. Let's talk Scota Son.

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Sure, absolutely well, yesterday was did not go down well

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as I'd predicted or as I thought. So I'll first

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to admit I was wrong. I wish I were I

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wish I had been right. Really unfortunate decision in the

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Trump versus Barbara, the birthright citizenship decision. I mean, we

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can break it down. I think the big takeaway here

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is that you had I mean, and there's there's been

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all kinds of spin in the last you know, twenty

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four hours or so about this decision. Some people are

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trying to characterize this as you know, some optimism and

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the fact that you had four of the justices recognized

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that this was that there wasn't maybe not a constitutional right.

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There's some breakdowns along those lines. But I think the

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really big takeaway with Trump versus Barbara birthright citizenship is

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the fact that five of the Justices, and particularly disappointing

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with Justices Barrett and Chief Justice Roberts closing the door

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of Congress fixing these problems that are facing with us.

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And let me explain what I mean by that.

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Yeah, I'm glad. I'm glad because people immediately thought were Congress,

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this is Congress's job now. But you're saying that they

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kind of put a they put a padlock on it.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, there was a pathway that was opened for them

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to really volley the issue back to Congress, and the

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pathway is is laid out in Justice Kavanaugh's concurring opinion. Look,

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nobody was surprised with the fact that the Supreme Court

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struck down the Executive Order, the executive order really declaring

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children of illegal immigrants as not citizens. The executive Order

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really wasn't the ideal vehicle to bring this issue before

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the Supreme Court. And this is a guest, I'm Monday

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Morning quarterback in this, I'm not placing blame on President

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Trump because President Trump is doing what he can to

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try to solve a problem. He identifies a problem here,

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and he's trying to solve it with the tools at

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his disposal. And one of the tools at his disposal

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is the executive order power. Unfortunately, under our constitutional structure,

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an executive order doesn't hold a lot of water right.

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So ideally, how this issue should be brought to the court,

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and I think maybe we can still try this is

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Congress can still try this is via a law. Is say,

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for example, Congress passes a law declaring birth tourism illegal,

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and then you say, does that law conflict with the

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Fourteenth Amendments citizenship clause as of right now? And this

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is the problem here because the Supreme Court ruled that

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there is a constitutional right enshrined within the citizenship clause

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of the Fourteenth Amendment to birthright citizenship, and that means

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territorial presence at the time of birth is enough to

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convey citizenship. That is a constitutional right enshrined in the

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Fourteenth Amendment. That means if you have a law that

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facially conflicts with that, i e. A law that says, well,

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a Chinese surrogates child or a Chinese billionaire sarrogate's child

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who's born in the United States is not a citizen.

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That law is presumptively unconstitutional and it's an enormous bar

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to bring to the court. So you've really closed the

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door for Congress doing that because again, it's a recognition

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of a constitutional right. Now, I'm saying, tactically speaking, it

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would be really it would have been ideal for that

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process to have been occurred as a case of first impression.

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In other words, Congress passed this law, the law is

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dragged up to the Supreme Court, and before the Supreme

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Court issued this decision that they issued yesterday and Trump

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versus Barbara as in other words, a case of first impression,

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the Court has to say, Okay, we're going to try

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to determine whether this is consistent with the birthright citizenship clause.

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See what I'm saying here. Now, when you do it

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this via an executive order, nobody was surprised with that

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right that they were going to throw out the executive order.

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And Justice Kavanaugh lays it out in his concurrence. He says, look,

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I would have declared the executive order illegal, but I

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would have not declared it unconstitutional. I would have held

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back on that. And that's something known as the canon

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of constitutional avoidance. And again, in so doing that, you

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would have allowed Congress to weigh in on this. Now

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you're kind of closing the door to Congress, and you're saying,

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this is a this is an enshrined constitutional right, not different,

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not really, kind of analogous. Again, it's a little rough,

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but it's kind of analogous. To encapsulate this and better

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illustrate it to the decision in Row versus Way. Right,

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there's a there's a recognition of a constitutional right to

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an abortion. Now again it's not it's distinguishable because there's

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not a textual hook with abortion. But you know, once

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the court recognizes this constitutional right i e. A right

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to an abortion, how do you get that? How do

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you how do you change that outcome? Well, you have

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to change it either in two ways. Number one a

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constitutional amendment or number two, a new Supreme Court opinion

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that overrules it i e. Adobts opinion that overrule that

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declares that overrules the president of versus Way. And we

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saw how long that took. So this is the journey

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before us. This is really this is unfortunate. The Court

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had a really clear pathway to making allowing the political

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branches to weigh in on this, and they closed that door.

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And that's what's really disappointing.

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Bill.

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Why did they do that? Mike? I mean almost seems

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like that's the question. You know, it's just something because somehow,

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you know, some have suggested that that you know, Roberts

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specifically was nervous because you know, the Democrats have been

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talking about packing the court.

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Who that's someone I've wrestled with a little bit over

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the past. I was thinking about that this morning. Really

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why the operative court? You know, we can talk about

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the how and the effects and everything, it's why why

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did Justice Robert Chief Justice Roberts deviate from his modus operandi?

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And I've struggled with that answer. I mean, I think

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you can, you can. This is why I was. I

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was really confident in predicting that it was going to

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be this illegal but not nonconstitutional. They're going to hold

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back on the constitutional because Justice Roberts. Chief Justice Roberts

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has always operated from a position of judicial minimalism, right,

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and if there's a if there's an off ramp that

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he can take to volly the a legitimate off ramp

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that he can take to volly the issue back to

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the political branches, i e. Congress specifically, or at state legislatures,

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what have you. He was going to take that, and

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he's done that repeatedly, and I thought to myself that'd.

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Be a except for Obamacare. Obamacare was another exception.

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Well, well, Obama, let me say Obamacare. He deferred to

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the legislature, right, he did. He was loath to overturn

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a piece of legislation that was this is this is

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actually works really to support my theory because he was

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deferring to Congress in this. He was trying to find

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a reason to preserve the legislation. So he was he

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was taking every step he could, including this wild step

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of finding the power of tax to declare this law constitutional,

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because he didn't want to override the power of Congress

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to pass a law. So that's kind of actually, I

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see what you're saying, but it's actually kind of consistent

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with what I was thinking, is that he understand stands

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the importance of Congress in our constitutional structure and doesn't

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want to close the door to them, and if they've

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done something, he wants to take every opportunity he can

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to validate what Congress has done. And so he's kind

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of he's kind of elevated. Congress not elevated, but he's

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recognized that under our traditional separation of powers and our

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constitutional structure, that really the Framers envisioned Congress as the

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most powerful branch. That all went out the window with

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this decision with Trump versus Barbara. And this is why

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I was so surprised with it and honestly disappointed, because

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I said to myself, you know, Okay, I get an

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executive order, bad, but you know, let Congress have a

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say in this before you, before you decide you're going

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to go down this constitutional road. Now you can not

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to get answer your question, Bill why, I mean, I

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don't really I'm loath to get into some of the

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theories I might have with it, but I don't want to.

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I'm really not comfortable in opening up my personal theories

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on it. But I think I think he was just

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looking for a reason to get into this constitutional issue

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and come down on it. It's just disappointing. I have

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theories on it, I'm not really comfortable voicing them publicly

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on it, but I wish I wish he'd go one

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the other way, honestly, And I'm surprised.

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Well, it's amazing when you think about where we are

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on a national security issue, immigration, where it sits right now,

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that's happening on this you think, gosh, you know, birthright

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citizenship is just part of the problem. It's not the problem,

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but it contributes to the problem.

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Yeah, and this is here's here's the other problem with

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this decision too, is is it opened up again. This

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is not just similar to watch and versus r RNC.

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It opens up a parade of horrible, possibly horrible, of

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thorny issues that we're now going to have to deal with. Okay,

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so let me let me throw a couple of things out. Well,

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how do you There's clearly there's some motivation here to

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reduce birthright citizenship. There's a political will to do this, right, Obviously,

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Donald Trump's the president. I states he was elected on

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an immigration platform, so there's a political will to address

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these issues. Well, okay, does the president now and I

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think he might have the statutory authority to require and

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again I don't feel comfortable with this. I'm just throwing

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this out there now, to require women who come into

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our country to take a birth to pass, to take

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You know we're talking with them.

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Mica O'Neal from Landmark Legal, Michael, go ahead, I mean,

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you know you post something. You're exactly right. I mean

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we're gonna have to run pregnancy test. You know again,

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is there.

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Is is that gonna? I mean I kind of I

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kind of instinctively am like I don't like that. You

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know that there's an instinctive problem with that, but you

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know there's a recognized issue here. Well, what if we

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want to deter birth tourism? Okay? Well, what steps are

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we going to take that are consistent with this opinion

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to deter birth step birth birth tourism? Okay? And then again,

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if what if you do that? If well, are you

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going to have immigration officials turning away pregnant women or

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or trying to discern whether somebody who's coming across the

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border looks pregnant? And then you're saying, well, no, we

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don't we want to turn them away. I mean, think

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about that that's that's a bad that's a bad optic,

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that's not that's not necessarily good. So again my point

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here is what happens is when you close the door

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to the legitimate political process for solving problems that are

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facing Americans, then you open up another door to all

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of these dramatic, you know, assertions of power, and there's

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not the necessary constitutional structural release valve i e. The

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legitimate legal process, law making process to address some of

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these problems. Again, think about this. If you if you impose,

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if you decide you're gonna mandate a regulation or you're

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going to impose a regulation mandating pregnancy test, well, what's

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to prevent another country from doing that? From American women?

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You know, Oh, I want to go over to America.

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I want to go over to a great Britain to

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do this, while do you have to have a pregnant

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I mean, that's then you get in this diplomatic tet

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a tench. It just becomes very messy, very quickly. So

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again it's a really it's it's just it's disappointing from

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the perspective of not surprising in the fact that they

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threw out the executive order, but disappointing and the fact

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that they close the door to the congressional process to this.

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So now the answer is, I guess in a bigger

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target is just amendment? Right?

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Well, yeah, I mean, I guess I was thinking this one.

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If we can talk up a little a little bit

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about politics with it, yeah, I mean, it's it's again,

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it's like a Row versus Wade kind of project thing

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you're talking about here. The lining, I guess if you will,

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is there. This might motivate the base, right, if we're

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going to talk about politics and electability and all that stuff.

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You know, we know that immigration is a huge issue.

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And again I'm loath to use this word, but I mean,

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for the for everybody, judicial activism, everybody's very concerned with.

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These were the issues that brought Donald Trump to office

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in twenty sixteen. Right election, judicial, the Supreme Court ruling

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bad rulings from the Supreme Court, putting judges, justices and

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judges on the bench that are going to enforce you know,

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that are going to be consistent with conservative principles.

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Et cetera.

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So you know what moves people. We know what moves voters,

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immigration and judges. So I mean, hey, guess what I

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guess if there is a silver lining here in this

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is that it might motivate the Republican or the conservative

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base to go out and vote in the midterm elections,

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where here, too four they might have been a little

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satiated and say, okay, well we might hold back a

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little bit. It's a midterm election, et cetera. Exce, this

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might motivate people to get out there and try to

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do something. So I think that that could be a

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good a good outcome in this. I mean, obviously roe

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versus Wade motivated a lot of people for a lot

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of years. Now again I'm not I'm not saying this

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is abortion is important, and it's it's it's a different case.

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But still there's a general principle that might be applicable.

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Here, right exactly. And of course, uh, you know, the

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people are speaking because uh, it's not like after after

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Dobbs abortion stopped, if anything, you know, because of the

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importivation fill pill. Uh it's uh, it's as robust as ever.

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Yeah, But I think what you want to ask yourself

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here and this is this is again just to go

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back to this point, is the the importance of preserving

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political solutions to problems facing Americans. That is what is

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necessary in our system of government, right you. You do

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not want to have the branches closing the door to

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Americans being able to effectuate change via the political process.

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And this is a theme, right, This is why it's

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important to have integrity in our lifectoral system.

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So that's exactly the same.

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That if I don't like birth tourism, and again ninety

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nine percent of Americans, I would venture to say, don't

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think birth tourism is a good idea, that I can

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do something about it, and well, what can you do

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about it? Well, I tell you what you can do

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about it. You can elect somebody a representative or a

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senator who's going to go to Washington and is going

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to author or support a law that outlaws about birth tourism.

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So that means the political process is open for this.

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This is why our framers envisioned this. This is the

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system implemented, and this is why it's important to use

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that The court is you know, is minimalist. And this

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is generally this is how John Roberts operates. This is

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why my mind has kind of boggled that he closed

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the door. He generally recognizes this fundamental principle in our

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government and our in our republic. And yet they slam

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the door shut on this one. And this is and again,

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just to get touched on another one from the past

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couple of days, is Watson versus R and C. This

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is the one where they court upheld the Mississippi law

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permitting five postmark ballots to be received five days after

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election day. And this is another one where again, uh,

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you know, they upheld this law. And I say, okay, well,

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you've got to understand that these these are this is

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a bad law that undermines the integrity of the system,

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and that you should recognize that this is going to

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contribute to a loss of faith. And as just as

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the Leader acknowledges in his in his dissenting opinion in

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this that this is a male voting is that process

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is inherently vulnerable to fraud and malfeasans and mischief, and

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that reasonable protections need to be implemented on this and

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that if you undermine the integrity of the system or

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the faith in the integrity of the system, you really

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undermine our government, and that you're closing the door. And

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I think this is really kind of what we're talking

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about here. They should be opening the doors to the

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political process. They shouldn't be closing the doors or undermining

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the faith that we have in this And this is.

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Which will exactly ate well when the political process is suspect,

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which it is right now clearly, I mean even to

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the point I mean still, Mike, over sixty percent of

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voters believe the twenty twenty election was uh was gudulent, right,

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And so.

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You're operating in that in that environment already. And so therefore,

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what do you do You need to come back to this.

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You need to you need to take you need to

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take affirmative steps to restore faith, right, And so that

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means if you have an opportunity to restore faith in this,

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because again, what's the importance here the takeaway is preservation

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of our democracy and ensure ensure that people believe in

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our country and believe in America at our two hundred

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and fiftieth birthday and this miracle and this incredible gift

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we've been bestowed upon us. So yeah, if you lose

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faith in it, you will will wait wait a minute,

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we have this opportunity to restore faith to say, Okay,

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there's a there's this is this is a reason this

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the election day means election day. It means ballots received

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post election day are are not processed. It's not part

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of the process of electing. So that means you have

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to have your ballots in. So again, but let me

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let me backtrack here, back to my original kind of

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point about bringing these cases to the court. To the

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Supreme Court is and I think this is some wisdom

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that needs to be considered. Is the vehicle by which

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you bring these cases to the court. Again, it's it's

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it's easy for the court. It was easier for the

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Court to declare unconstitutional and executive order, a broad based

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executive order promulgated by Donald Trump. It's easy for the

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court to declare illegal or legal a law that says

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five days postmark ballot within five days. But it would

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be really hard for the court to make the court

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struggle with some thorny issues. Bring a lot on them

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and say, Okay, you're gonna say that it's legal for

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Washington State to allow twenty one days to count their bouts.

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You're gonna say that's legal. Supreme Court, Really, okay, drag

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these drag these really hard issues to the Court and say, okay,

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let's see how you roll now when the rubber meets

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the road. Don't make it easy on them. And that's

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that's my take down going forward. It's like, let's bring

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these hard cases up to them, these strong facts, actual cases,

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and confront them with it. And again here's another one.

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Have Congress actually pass a law outlaw on birth tourism.

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Go ahead, do it well, understanding that it's probably going

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to be declared invalid, that it's going to be presumptively unconstitutional,

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all that stuff. Okay, guess what, or even have an

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executive order on it. Let's let's let's really make them

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say it and say, okay, Supreme Court, you're saying it's

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constitutional that a Chinese billionaire can have one hundred kids

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via surrogacy and that those kids are citizens, and that's

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consistent with the framers intent of the fourteenth Amendment. Make

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them answer that question. And that's my take right now.

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Don't make it easy on them. Make it hard on them,

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and bring tough cases to them and make them declare certain,

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make them see if they're see how quick they are

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to rule against. I think generally what most of us

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believe in the will of the American people in these.

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Issues exactly well about a minute left here, what else

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I mean we hadn't.

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Yeah, yeah, I've been ranting and raving about all the

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bad news. Here, let's talk about there is some. Let's

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end on a positive note. Right, this is a and

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this is our celebration of our two hundred and fifty

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and the anniversary. Let's end it on a positive note.

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Trump versus Slaughter this is a win for separation of powers.

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I'm always talking about separation of powers and preservation of

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requisite branches of government. Trump versus Slaughter is really important.

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This is a case that recognized that the executive authority

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is vested within the president the United States, and there

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can't be these bureaucrats or these political appointees from previous

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administrations languishing in these importantly powerful positions within Washington, DC's

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bureaucracy undermining the president's agenda from within. And now the

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president has there's a recognition again, which is the power

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has always been there. There was the aberration which was

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the Humphrey's Executor era, and that's been the past ninety

471
00:23:42.839 --> 00:23:45.519
years where the president couldn't fire these heads of these

472
00:23:45.599 --> 00:23:49.960
quasi independent agencies. Well, guess what, there's a there's a

473
00:23:49.160 --> 00:23:53.440
return to sanity, return to constitutional principles of separation of powers.

474
00:23:53.559 --> 00:23:56.240
The executive power is vested within the president if he wants,

475
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If he comes into office and he wants to fire

476
00:23:59.119 --> 00:24:02.319
the head of the ftc SE at will, then that's

477
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his presidential prerogative. So this is good news for separation

478
00:24:05.839 --> 00:24:08.400
of powers. It's a good news for really pulling a

479
00:24:08.400 --> 00:24:10.599
lot of the teeth out of the administrative state. Right,

480
00:24:10.640 --> 00:24:13.000
you don't have these bureaucrats that are working to undermine

481
00:24:13.039 --> 00:24:15.759
the duly elected president of the United States. So that's good.

482
00:24:15.759 --> 00:24:17.680
Trump versus Slaughter is a win for our country. That

483
00:24:17.759 --> 00:24:20.000
was a big, huge win. A lot of people in

484
00:24:20.599 --> 00:24:22.359
the movement I work in and a lot of people

485
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I work with, have worked a lot of years on

486
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that case. So it's a really huge win for us,

487
00:24:26.880 --> 00:24:29.000
a huge win for democracy, a huge win for the

488
00:24:29.000 --> 00:24:30.279
separation of powers.

489
00:24:30.640 --> 00:24:32.640
Well, we got to leave it there. Happy forth in July,

490
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my friend, Thank you for a positive note.

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Take care, Yeah, take care of my friend. I'll see

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556
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The New American. He's a publisher of the New American magazine.

557
00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:17.960
Hey Steve, how you doing?

558
00:28:18.160 --> 00:28:19.119
Hey? Bill? How you doing?

559
00:28:19.400 --> 00:28:22.640
Hey? I'm doing just a sidebar by the way, the

560
00:28:22.720 --> 00:28:26.240
commemorative issue. I guess it's a collector's issue that you

561
00:28:26.319 --> 00:28:28.680
did on the deep State, that your team did, it's

562
00:28:28.720 --> 00:28:33.000
just absolutely outstanding. I've had more comments from friends in

563
00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:36.799
my circle that I've mentioned about what a great job

564
00:28:36.839 --> 00:28:39.440
you did in breaking down, you know, the history of

565
00:28:39.480 --> 00:28:42.200
the deep state and dealing with some of these issues

566
00:28:42.200 --> 00:28:44.480
that some would consider as conspiratorial.

567
00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:48.559
Yes, well, thank you so much. We we aimed to please,

568
00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:51.559
and we felt that a thirty years was time to

569
00:28:51.599 --> 00:28:53.599
revisit the issue in a special issue.

570
00:28:53.599 --> 00:28:56.359
So well, and like you said, it's you know, for

571
00:28:56.440 --> 00:28:58.480
people that you know think whenever you.

572
00:28:58.480 --> 00:29:00.279
Hear you know that one right here there.

573
00:29:00.319 --> 00:29:04.440
It is when you think about the illuminati and you

574
00:29:04.480 --> 00:29:07.200
know the roots of you know, the deep state, and

575
00:29:07.480 --> 00:29:10.240
really it just comes down to just comes down to

576
00:29:10.279 --> 00:29:11.960
who's who's got the money, right.

577
00:29:13.079 --> 00:29:15.000
Yeah, I mean certainly money is a large part of it.

578
00:29:15.200 --> 00:29:17.319
There there are other issues as well, but yeah, I mean,

579
00:29:18.079 --> 00:29:21.160
at some to some degree, I mean that the people

580
00:29:21.200 --> 00:29:24.359
who are the ultimate movers and shakers behind what we

581
00:29:24.400 --> 00:29:27.039
call the deep state, I think are perhaps maybe not

582
00:29:27.079 --> 00:29:31.519
a political but they're certainly driven by an ideology. I mean,

583
00:29:31.559 --> 00:29:35.440
they're not without ideology. They have goals, they have an ideology,

584
00:29:35.480 --> 00:29:39.039
the ideology of power. I suppose that motivates them. So

585
00:29:39.599 --> 00:29:42.319
I mean, and this accounts for their their zeal and

586
00:29:42.359 --> 00:29:45.359
their tenacity in trying to achieve those those goals, not

587
00:29:45.480 --> 00:29:49.839
just in a single country like the United States, but worldwide.

588
00:29:50.440 --> 00:29:53.240
You know, it's interesting because Democrats are always accused of,

589
00:29:53.680 --> 00:29:56.200
you know, being so interested in power and control, you know,

590
00:29:56.200 --> 00:29:59.119
as Lindsey Graham would state it. But I got to

591
00:29:59.119 --> 00:30:01.559
tell you, the deep State make the Democrats look like,

592
00:30:02.240 --> 00:30:04.599
you know, their little pawns on a bigger chessboard.

593
00:30:06.079 --> 00:30:10.000
Well, sure, I mean the Democratic Party being I guess

594
00:30:10.079 --> 00:30:13.680
what would have once been called the court faction. You know,

595
00:30:13.880 --> 00:30:16.640
it's the party whose whose raizone deetra is to defend

596
00:30:16.640 --> 00:30:22.160
the status quo and to follow power wherever it leads.

597
00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:25.359
And you know, the Republicans, until recently have been primarily

598
00:30:25.400 --> 00:30:28.000
the loyal opposition, have a different, differentunct, so they're you know,

599
00:30:28.039 --> 00:30:32.759
the Democratic Party, certainly in the United States is more

600
00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:37.559
in sympathetic certainly to the aims of the globalists and

601
00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:40.839
the radical left and the other main factions within this

602
00:30:40.839 --> 00:30:44.039
this you know, the deep state, the conspiracy. That's that's

603
00:30:44.119 --> 00:30:50.359
trying to to radically overhaul the culture, government and you know,

604
00:30:50.400 --> 00:30:54.599
the totality of the United States and recondition it so

605
00:30:54.640 --> 00:30:57.240
that it will fit with a new world order. I mean,

606
00:30:57.240 --> 00:30:59.759
that's a term people hear, that conspirit. That's actually the

607
00:30:59.799 --> 00:31:04.119
term that they've used for centuries to describe this utopian project.

608
00:31:04.799 --> 00:31:06.799
Yeah, because how many people are we talking you know,

609
00:31:06.920 --> 00:31:10.720
maybe a thousand or so elites I mean uber elites

610
00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:15.680
that are very private and secretive, that are the lever pullers,

611
00:31:16.039 --> 00:31:20.519
as you say, looking in terms of an ultimate goal

612
00:31:21.039 --> 00:31:24.279
of global control and power, right.

613
00:31:25.119 --> 00:31:26.880
I mean, it's I don't know how many there are.

614
00:31:26.960 --> 00:31:31.400
It's certainly a small minority of people, but actually there

615
00:31:31.519 --> 00:31:33.200
is a large I mean there there There are different

616
00:31:33.240 --> 00:31:34.680
layers to it is. There are a large number of

617
00:31:34.720 --> 00:31:39.480
people who are ideological supporters in varying degrees. And it's

618
00:31:39.559 --> 00:31:41.559
hard to know, you know, those who at the apex

619
00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:43.519
of the power of power, so to speak, how many

620
00:31:43.599 --> 00:31:46.839
they may actually be, But they're certainly found all over

621
00:31:46.880 --> 00:31:50.680
the world, you know, and and and speak different languages

622
00:31:50.880 --> 00:31:55.480
and at least professedly belong to different you know, religions

623
00:31:55.519 --> 00:31:59.680
and cultures in this kind of thing. But in their

624
00:31:59.680 --> 00:32:03.279
inner convictions. They are globalists, they don't they don't you know,

625
00:32:03.319 --> 00:32:05.880
those things are are just are just trappings. Are are

626
00:32:06.039 --> 00:32:09.720
you know, are our superficialities, so you know, and and

627
00:32:09.799 --> 00:32:12.359
many of them probably are not household names. I mean

628
00:32:12.400 --> 00:32:14.720
we tend to say, oh, well, this billionaire or that politician,

629
00:32:14.799 --> 00:32:17.240
those are those are the are the deep state, But

630
00:32:17.359 --> 00:32:20.599
a lot of them are people who are uh, you know,

631
00:32:20.640 --> 00:32:23.039
perhaps not so well known to the general public or

632
00:32:23.079 --> 00:32:26.359
not at all, who wild power and and you know,

633
00:32:26.400 --> 00:32:29.160
and characterizing it, I mean, I find the term deep

634
00:32:29.160 --> 00:32:34.039
state to be not misleading, but perhaps limiting, because it

635
00:32:34.440 --> 00:32:41.599
implies that at root this movement is is political and

636
00:32:41.599 --> 00:32:43.279
and that's no more accurate than to say, well, it's

637
00:32:43.319 --> 00:32:45.160
just a bunch of you know, central bankers, you know.

638
00:32:45.160 --> 00:32:46.839
I mean, that's part of it too. But it's not

639
00:32:47.039 --> 00:32:50.920
purely about money either. At root, it is actually spiritual

640
00:32:51.359 --> 00:32:56.160
and the political and the financial and the cultural ramifications

641
00:32:56.200 --> 00:32:58.519
are are aspects of it. But but route I mean,

642
00:32:58.519 --> 00:33:01.559
there's there's a there's a power spiritual or dare I say,

643
00:33:01.559 --> 00:33:05.920
anti spiritual conviction among the people. And I mean one

644
00:33:06.119 --> 00:33:08.480
example of this, and this is not a contemporary figure,

645
00:33:08.519 --> 00:33:11.960
but someone who lived several hundred years ago. Is John D.

646
00:33:12.440 --> 00:33:14.319
Most people have no idea. I mentioned John D and

647
00:33:14.319 --> 00:33:15.839
one of my artor and most people have no idea

648
00:33:15.880 --> 00:33:17.480
who this guy John D was. Well, I'll tell you

649
00:33:17.599 --> 00:33:24.119
he was. He was a practitioner of black magic, including necromancy,

650
00:33:24.200 --> 00:33:28.200
which is where you try to raise the dead black

651
00:33:28.559 --> 00:33:31.000
black magic. He actually did this with a guy named

652
00:33:31.079 --> 00:33:32.720
or tried to. I don't know how successful he was,

653
00:33:32.920 --> 00:33:36.480
but he went into graveyards and tried to raise dead

654
00:33:36.559 --> 00:33:39.839
people and commune with spirits with an even more sinister

655
00:33:39.960 --> 00:33:43.880
character named Edward Kelly, who followed him around. He was

656
00:33:44.000 --> 00:33:47.039
fascinated with all aspects of the occult. You say, okay, well,

657
00:33:47.039 --> 00:33:50.559
he sounds like a really weird fringe character. Well. He

658
00:33:50.680 --> 00:33:55.799
was also a polymath at the apex of elizabethan England's

659
00:33:56.720 --> 00:33:59.400
not only academic but political scene. And he was a

660
00:33:59.400 --> 00:34:02.759
privy council to Queen Elizabeth the First. And he was

661
00:34:02.799 --> 00:34:05.960
the guy who is credited with thinking up the idea

662
00:34:05.960 --> 00:34:09.199
of the British Empire. It was his idea. He went

663
00:34:09.239 --> 00:34:11.440
to Elizabeth and said, you know, here's what we need

664
00:34:11.480 --> 00:34:13.760
to do to change the world. We need to take

665
00:34:14.039 --> 00:34:16.719
all of these wonderful civilized laws and this whole system

666
00:34:16.760 --> 00:34:18.960
of British civilization, and we need to find a way

667
00:34:19.079 --> 00:34:21.360
to extend it worldwide, and we're going to do this

668
00:34:21.880 --> 00:34:25.880
by you know, uh. And he proposed this this project,

669
00:34:26.199 --> 00:34:28.199
and so you can find that in Wikipedia. That's actually

670
00:34:28.280 --> 00:34:30.400
not secret. Most people are just unaware of the fact

671
00:34:30.519 --> 00:34:32.760
that the guy who thunk up the British Empire, one

672
00:34:32.800 --> 00:34:36.239
of the most consequential events of the last thousand years,

673
00:34:36.639 --> 00:34:41.119
was this weirdoes. Yeah, so this kind of shows and

674
00:34:41.239 --> 00:34:43.719
and and and as his motivation to this, I don't

675
00:34:43.719 --> 00:34:45.960
think it was you know, petty partisan politics or whatever

676
00:34:46.119 --> 00:34:49.599
was the equivalent thereof back in Elizabethan, England. It was

677
00:34:49.679 --> 00:34:53.519
it was owing to his spiritual views and in his

678
00:34:53.599 --> 00:34:56.480
case and many others like him, people who inclined towards

679
00:34:56.480 --> 00:34:59.519
the occult, this idea and the perfectibility of man, this

680
00:34:59.599 --> 00:35:05.039
idea that we ourselves are capable of bringing about earthly paradise.

681
00:35:05.320 --> 00:35:07.719
I mean that's certainly the motive. That's that's what socialism

682
00:35:07.880 --> 00:35:08.599
is in a fact.

683
00:35:08.519 --> 00:35:12.400
Right exactly. Yeah, Yeah, it's basically godless, I would think,

684
00:35:12.440 --> 00:35:14.800
even though they may claim some sort of you know,

685
00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:21.000
religious ideology, but it is you know, it seems to

686
00:35:21.039 --> 00:35:25.159
be humanistic more so. And as you mentioned, you know,

687
00:35:25.199 --> 00:35:28.719
they like not having their names and lights. They don't

688
00:35:28.760 --> 00:35:33.400
want to be noted figures, it would seem.

689
00:35:32.320 --> 00:35:34.679
Yeah, And I mean unlike in John D's day, where

690
00:35:34.719 --> 00:35:37.559
some of these these these are cult guys had sort

691
00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:40.000
of rock star status because that was the age when

692
00:35:40.039 --> 00:35:43.679
things like alchemy were very celebrated. Still your latter day

693
00:35:43.760 --> 00:35:46.119
John Dee's are not, you know, not the sort of

694
00:35:46.119 --> 00:35:49.239
people that most people are aware of. I mean probably

695
00:35:49.239 --> 00:35:52.079
the last such I would think would probably be probably

696
00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:54.280
Alistair Crowley, and he's of course been dead for a

697
00:35:54.360 --> 00:35:57.239
long time, but he was kind of a celebrated cultist

698
00:35:57.239 --> 00:36:00.159
and he was very influential politically too. He was he

699
00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:03.039
had his contacts in the highest, you know, corridors of

700
00:36:03.079 --> 00:36:06.239
power in both you know, Britain and the United States,

701
00:36:06.280 --> 00:36:09.320
and was highly and remains highly influential, I mean, certainly

702
00:36:09.599 --> 00:36:12.440
in the world of entertainment. It's it's hard to you know,

703
00:36:12.519 --> 00:36:15.840
to comb through much of the output of of Hollywood

704
00:36:15.880 --> 00:36:18.360
without coming up with references to Aleister Crowley and to

705
00:36:18.400 --> 00:36:21.400
his exactly his beliefs so called Thelma and everything else,

706
00:36:21.480 --> 00:36:24.480
his philosophy so you know, and then there are people

707
00:36:24.559 --> 00:36:26.079
like that today. Most of them are you know, are

708
00:36:26.119 --> 00:36:28.639
not not well. I'm not saying they're all occultists, like

709
00:36:28.800 --> 00:36:31.639
like Crowley, but I am saying that, you know, I mean,

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Adolf Hitler once made a comment about Nazism. He said,

711
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people that look at Nazism and I'm paraphrasing, but he said,

712
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people who see Nazism as just a political movement don't

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understand what it's about. And in that he was telling

714
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the truth, right, because Nazism also originated as an occult movement.

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You know. The Tula Gazellschaft, which Hitler and all the

716
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inner circle of the Nazi belonged to, wasn't a cult organization,

717
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and it was derived from what we would now call

718
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the you know, the early New Age or you know,

719
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movement of the Theosophical Society, and you know Helena Plovotsky

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and any Bizant and all that crowd. You know. Again,

721
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these are not necessarily household names anymore unless people into

722
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the occult, you know, which I do not recommend, by

723
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the way. But the point being is that that again, Nazism,

724
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which was a terrible, enormously you know, uh, consequential part

725
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of you know, the globalism in the mid twentieth century,

726
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you know, and obviously rot Cheryl Havock was ultimately spiritual

727
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in nature. And this is this is the important thing

728
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to bear in mind. These people are you know, some

729
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of them. They may be atheistic, but they do have

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their their their philosophy and their goals and and and

731
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which animates them well.

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And this is why they embraced, I believe, embraced in

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part Darwinism. You know so uh you know so uh

734
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how I want to say, you know so easily, let's

735
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put it that way.

736
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Yeah, out well, and many other things. It's one of

737
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the reasons for their tremendous patience. I mean, you want

738
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to say, well, you know, I I often hear the

739
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idea of conspiracy debunked on more or less at this base.

740
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Rush Limbaugh used to do this, used to say, well,

741
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you know, it's impossible to keep a conspiracy secret, you know,

742
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these people. And to an extent, he's right in the

743
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sense that if you look out, if you look at

744
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the evidence, it's not really that secret. You know, there

745
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are admissions against interest, you know. Obviously, Carol Quigley's book

746
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Tragedy and Hope is a really good example of that.

747
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And and but there are others as well. I mean,

748
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if you can't read the writings of any of these

749
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prominent occult people from John D onward without coming into,

750
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you know, across references of a secret global elite brotherhood.

751
00:38:46.119 --> 00:38:47.480
They call it by different names, but they all have

752
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the same the same thing. They say, the world is

753
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secretly controlled by these people. And they're good, you know,

754
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because their aims are noble and all this, and they

755
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know each other and they speak differently, but you know,

756
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they all the same thing. Well, they're all just making

757
00:38:59.800 --> 00:39:03.840
this stuff up. Obviously, you know, the the the the

758
00:39:03.880 --> 00:39:06.199
skeptic is going to say, well, they're just all making up.

759
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But are they all making up the same story?

760
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You know?

761
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I mean, you know, the whole idea of so called

762
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esotericism is the idea of.

763
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This this this there's this this.

764
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Group worldwide that has this has this power. I choose

765
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to believe it. I mean, I see enough evidence suggest

766
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that this that this is essentially a correct picture.

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We've got more from Steve Bonta from The New American

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after this, stay with us.

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Hey, welcome back. We're talking with Steve Bonta. He is

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the publisher for the New American magazine. When you look

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at the fruit on the tree, I mean the tree

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is going to bear a specific fruit based on its

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root system, and so it's quite telling. I mean you

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have to really just you know, purposely blind yourself, you know,

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to that reality to see these underpinnings that are going

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on and of course that are being manifest more and

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more in our country today. We're going to talk about

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that in just a moment. But to kind of wrap

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things up again, congratulations on this, uh, you know, on

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this publication and this special commandmentive magazine. Steve, how can

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people access it.

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Well, it's a you can order it online to go

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I'm we're very proud of this issue and it's selling

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very well, and we're hoping that it opens opens more

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eyes as to the the I mean, there are lots

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and lots of people Bill out there who are sympathetic

867
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in varying degrees to to the to the cause of

868
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freedom and limited government, all this stuff which is so important.

869
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But it's important, you know, to understand also from whence

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the opposition derives its vitality. You know, why is it

871
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that it's so hard to win this fight? Why is

872
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it that it always seems like two steps forward, three

873
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steps back? And the answer is because the enemy is organized,

874
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and no complete accounting of the freedom struggle is possible

875
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without acknowledging that, without saying, you know, understanding somewhat the

876
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nature of the enemy. Face.

877
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Well, you're exactly right, I see the enemy working a

878
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lot harder. I mean, look at what's happening, you know,

879
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across our country with the Democratic Socialist I mean, they're

880
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out of the closet, full blown. I mean we've known

881
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this for a long time, you know, for decades that

882
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this was a you know, a growing organization, and now

883
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here they are. I mean, they've captured, you know, the

884
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mayor's seat in New York. You've got three candidates in

885
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New York heading you know, potentially to Congress, and they're

886
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very outspoken about their Democratic Socialistic not even leanings, but

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their commitment.

888
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Yeah. Absolutely, And I mean, I mean that's obviously. Socialism

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is the main kind of the public face of this

890
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of this this drive for for for for global control,

891
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and you know, this type of thing we call it socialism,

892
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but it's it's just the ideology of pure a moral,

893
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collectivized power. That's all it is. And everything that and

894
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again with and even with socialism, just just confining our

895
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our analysis. Socialist people often make the mistake of saying, well,

896
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socialism is basically this this political and economic theory, and

897
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it's not. If you look at the origins of socialism,

898
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you find that all of the you know, the people.

899
00:46:33.199 --> 00:46:36.039
It was also a radical social experiment. I mean, all

900
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the first socialist communes were all into getting rid of

901
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marriage and the family and having you know, as they

902
00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:44.159
called it then and and now free love and all

903
00:46:44.199 --> 00:46:47.119
the rest of this. There's always been this counter cultural,

904
00:46:47.719 --> 00:46:52.440
moral or anti moral dimension of the thing we call socialism.

905
00:46:52.480 --> 00:46:54.639
So just looking at it as a like a politically

906
00:46:54.719 --> 00:46:58.880
a political partisan thing, or maybe an instance of extreme

907
00:46:59.519 --> 00:47:03.119
you know, but purely political zealotry is do you know,

908
00:47:03.159 --> 00:47:06.119
fails to capture the totality of what socialism is. And

909
00:47:06.159 --> 00:47:11.360
so there's nothing at all inconsistent about the fact that

910
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the same people who are espousing uh socialist you know,

911
00:47:15.639 --> 00:47:18.719
economic and political collectivism, are also a spouse, are trying

912
00:47:18.760 --> 00:47:21.119
to get rid of the family, are trying to destroy

913
00:47:21.199 --> 00:47:26.840
family values, are implacable foes of organized religions, particularly Christianity,

914
00:47:27.039 --> 00:47:30.599
all that kind of thing. It's all of a peace right.

915
00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:37.199
And in all the years of human history, what success

916
00:47:37.239 --> 00:47:39.800
record can you point to and say, you see here

917
00:47:40.199 --> 00:47:43.440
during the Roman Empire, or you know, during you know

918
00:47:43.559 --> 00:47:47.320
another empire, it worked brilliantly, or you know the Russians

919
00:47:47.320 --> 00:47:50.519
handled it, or you know whatever. I mean, every time

920
00:47:50.599 --> 00:47:55.639
you look at socialism as a history element. You see mediocrity,

921
00:47:55.679 --> 00:47:59.280
you see devastation, human carnage. So here it is the

922
00:47:59.679 --> 00:48:02.280
strikeing to have it your way, like as if you're

923
00:48:02.400 --> 00:48:05.760
ordering up a hamburger. You end up in the process

924
00:48:05.840 --> 00:48:10.039
just you know, debilitating the social norms and the things

925
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that brought you to the dance, and you've just blown

926
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up the whole party.

927
00:48:15.159 --> 00:48:16.760
Well, that's true, and I think that a lot of

928
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people on the left, at least the more intelligent ones,

929
00:48:20.400 --> 00:48:25.679
they know this. But they're motivated by a desire to

930
00:48:25.800 --> 00:48:30.000
destroy the existing order, and if that can be accomplished

931
00:48:30.480 --> 00:48:32.559
by socialism, then so be it. The I mean the

932
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whole The term radical comes from the word for root radics, right,

933
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and the idea is that the only thing that will

934
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suffice to bring about this aforementioned earthly paradise. You know,

935
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this this this this utopia that the human kind God

936
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listened to. Utopia. I have to say, uh, you know,

937
00:48:51.400 --> 00:48:54.480
you know, done by the hands of man, is the

938
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total uprooting of everything that went before. And of course

939
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is anyone who you know who knows anything about gardening.

940
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If you pull a planet by its roots, you kill it. Yes,

941
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but that's what they want to do is to kill utterly.

942
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And if that means, you know, the death of billions

943
00:49:12.199 --> 00:49:17.840
of souls and the desolation spoken of by Tacitus, then

944
00:49:17.880 --> 00:49:20.840
so be it. As long as you know, we can

945
00:49:20.840 --> 00:49:24.920
emerge at the far end with something new, something radically new.

946
00:49:24.960 --> 00:49:30.280
We will finally have banished God and morality and all

947
00:49:30.280 --> 00:49:32.920
the other things that they consider to be the source

948
00:49:33.480 --> 00:49:35.960
of all of the ills and troubles on this earth,

949
00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:38.719
and will have created this new temporal paradise that will

950
00:49:38.760 --> 00:49:41.239
not be encumbered anymore by those things. People will to

951
00:49:41.280 --> 00:49:43.239
do what they want. That will be the whole of

952
00:49:43.239 --> 00:49:46.400
the law, as Aleister Crowley famously put it, you know,

953
00:49:46.719 --> 00:49:50.480
and that will suffice if and if to get from there,

954
00:49:50.639 --> 00:49:54.920
from here to there, we have to sacrifice most of

955
00:49:55.000 --> 00:49:59.199
humanity on a modern day you know, alter of Moloch,

956
00:49:59.239 --> 00:50:01.920
will so be it? Yeah, I mean, obviously you have

957
00:50:01.960 --> 00:50:05.079
to break a lot of eggs to make this particular omelet.

958
00:50:05.159 --> 00:50:08.639
That's that's the reasoning. So I think you know a

959
00:50:08.679 --> 00:50:12.360
lot of them, you know, do know that theirs is

960
00:50:12.400 --> 00:50:16.400
a recipe for desolation and destruction. But that's what they want,

961
00:50:16.840 --> 00:50:18.440
you know, they say, some people just want to watch

962
00:50:18.519 --> 00:50:20.280
the world burn that's kind of become a bit of

963
00:50:20.280 --> 00:50:22.719
a of a punchline. But it's actually.

964
00:50:22.360 --> 00:50:26.519
True, right, that's what. And they're not satisfied with socialism.

965
00:50:26.559 --> 00:50:28.760
I mean, socialism is faced. It's the yellow brick road

966
00:50:28.800 --> 00:50:32.119
to communism, right, I mean, it's not a big leap

967
00:50:32.719 --> 00:50:35.440
once you once you become a socialist, you know, the

968
00:50:35.480 --> 00:50:39.440
transition to communism is you know, almost natural.

969
00:50:40.159 --> 00:50:43.519
Well, communism is is sort of a specialized form of socialism.

970
00:50:43.719 --> 00:50:47.039
Most communists will say, I mean, like the Chinese Communist Party,

971
00:50:46.880 --> 00:50:50.519
they anymore, they say, well, we're socialist, you know, I mean,

972
00:50:50.559 --> 00:50:56.039
socialism is the more correct term. Communism generally nowadays refers

973
00:50:56.039 --> 00:50:59.960
to a specific brand of socialism advocated by Karl Marx

974
00:51:00.559 --> 00:51:04.239
and that crowd, and a lot of people like the

975
00:51:04.280 --> 00:51:08.599
Fabian Socialists for example, really don't believe in that because

976
00:51:08.639 --> 00:51:12.039
they say, you know, this, this abrupt, violent revolutionary scheme

977
00:51:12.079 --> 00:51:15.320
that communism requires ain't gonna work. What we need to

978
00:51:15.320 --> 00:51:18.440
do is is is erect the house of socialist world

979
00:51:18.559 --> 00:51:23.559
order bit by bit, gradually, you know, basically, transform hearts

980
00:51:23.559 --> 00:51:26.480
and minds, and you know, if necessary, rule and ruin.

981
00:51:26.880 --> 00:51:30.360
But you know what, but but more this more gradualist approach.

982
00:51:30.679 --> 00:51:33.239
And then the other problem, you know, and the reason

983
00:51:33.360 --> 00:51:36.800
that modern day Marxists oftentimes you know, reject you know,

984
00:51:36.880 --> 00:51:39.800
the communist recipe. Per says, they say, well, you know,

985
00:51:39.840 --> 00:51:42.079
the problem with communism is, you know, it only it

986
00:51:42.119 --> 00:51:45.840
only works if you have a large uneducated peasantry like

987
00:51:45.840 --> 00:51:48.440
they head in Russia or China. And that's why communism

988
00:51:48.440 --> 00:51:51.360
has never really taken root, you know, taken over in

989
00:51:51.840 --> 00:51:54.199
countries that have higher standards of living, in education and

990
00:51:54.239 --> 00:51:56.320
so forth and so on. So so there are you know,

991
00:51:56.400 --> 00:51:59.199
some differences in that, but you know, Marxism writ large

992
00:51:59.199 --> 00:52:02.039
certainly know, embraces all of the above.

993
00:52:02.519 --> 00:52:04.400
Well, you look at what happened with Germany. I mean,

994
00:52:04.599 --> 00:52:08.199
Germany was a pretty you know, intellectual, uh you know

995
00:52:08.320 --> 00:52:11.239
country at the time. Of course we're talking communism and

996
00:52:11.280 --> 00:52:14.880
we're talking fascism as opposed to communism. But uh, you know,

997
00:52:15.400 --> 00:52:20.519
any ism whatsoever, you know, that relies on a constituency

998
00:52:20.559 --> 00:52:24.360
that's been dumbed down and mediocritized. You could argue that

999
00:52:24.840 --> 00:52:28.000
our educational system has been very effective in doing that

1000
00:52:28.199 --> 00:52:29.320
with this new generation.

1001
00:52:29.920 --> 00:52:31.519
Yeah. Well, I mean the thing is, again, if I

1002
00:52:31.559 --> 00:52:33.079
were a new World order, right, I'd be looking at

1003
00:52:33.079 --> 00:52:35.519
the Nazis and saying that's not the that's not what

1004
00:52:35.599 --> 00:52:38.079
I want to do, because look, it didn't last very long, right,

1005
00:52:38.360 --> 00:52:41.119
I mean, it was obviously a failure. They tried to

1006
00:52:41.119 --> 00:52:44.440
do too much, too quickly, and so you know, it

1007
00:52:44.559 --> 00:52:47.039
ended up coming a croppers of the rest of the world.

1008
00:52:47.119 --> 00:52:50.000
We know what happened to Nazism. So so what they're

1009
00:52:50.039 --> 00:52:52.280
what they're saying instead, is they say, well, let's how

1010
00:52:52.280 --> 00:52:55.239
can we make this permanent? You know, how can we

1011
00:52:55.400 --> 00:52:59.559
how can we ease humanity through this radical transition into

1012
00:52:59.639 --> 00:53:02.719
a new, entirely new order and make sure that it sticks,

1013
00:53:03.280 --> 00:53:05.639
you know, and make sure that we never return to

1014
00:53:06.360 --> 00:53:10.480
a time of sovereign nations and you know, religious faith

1015
00:53:10.519 --> 00:53:11.960
and all the you know, belief in a god that

1016
00:53:12.000 --> 00:53:15.679
doesn't exist, you know, fairy tales and all this type

1017
00:53:15.719 --> 00:53:20.079
of thing. Again, that's what they think. So you know,

1018
00:53:20.159 --> 00:53:24.519
in their in their hidden conclaves and conferences and so forth.

1019
00:53:24.559 --> 00:53:26.199
I mean, I have no doubt this is the kind

1020
00:53:26.239 --> 00:53:28.719
of thing that they're that they that they discuss, you know,

1021
00:53:30.320 --> 00:53:32.840
very serious terms, is how do you bring this about

1022
00:53:33.079 --> 00:53:34.079
and make it stick?

1023
00:53:35.159 --> 00:53:39.000
See about thirty seconds left. What about the hope for America?

1024
00:53:39.119 --> 00:53:40.719
I'm gonna let you wrap it up. Go ahead.

1025
00:53:41.519 --> 00:53:45.199
Well, the hope for America resides in bringing these hidden

1026
00:53:45.239 --> 00:53:49.159
things to light, and in also instilling in people and

1027
00:53:49.239 --> 00:53:53.119
appreciation of the positive values of the founders. You know,

1028
00:53:53.239 --> 00:53:56.199
the fact that that there is a God, that he

1029
00:53:56.320 --> 00:54:00.280
has given to us unalienable rights that make us who

1030
00:54:00.280 --> 00:54:04.519
we are, That the proper state of man in this

1031
00:54:04.599 --> 00:54:08.840
world and universe is as a free moral agent, not

1032
00:54:08.960 --> 00:54:12.719
a slave or a chattel, and everything that flows from that,

1033
00:54:12.800 --> 00:54:16.199
and the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. So all

1034
00:54:16.239 --> 00:54:18.519
of these things work together, and when we have enough

1035
00:54:18.519 --> 00:54:21.880
people with that critical understanding, we're going to have a

1036
00:54:21.920 --> 00:54:24.920
free country again, and the tide will turn well.

1037
00:54:24.960 --> 00:54:26.920
And here we are on the verge of celebrating two

1038
00:54:27.000 --> 00:54:30.079
hundred and fifty years, and we have Europeans and people

1039
00:54:30.119 --> 00:54:33.360
from around the world coming into our country and celebrating

1040
00:54:33.480 --> 00:54:38.079
our country and helping us appreciate just how exceptional the

1041
00:54:38.199 --> 00:54:40.119
United States of America is, right.

1042
00:54:40.480 --> 00:54:42.079
Yeah, yeah, And good for them. Who would have thought

1043
00:54:42.079 --> 00:54:45.199
the World Cup would be such a transformative political event,

1044
00:54:45.280 --> 00:54:46.280
But hey, we'll take it.

1045
00:54:46.639 --> 00:54:49.000
Yeah, absolutely, I'm with you. He's the publisher of the

1046
00:54:49.039 --> 00:54:51.840
New American magazine Steve Bonta. Thank you, Steve, take care

1047
00:54:51.920 --> 00:54:53.280
God bless Thanks Bill.

1048
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Getting America Back on Track Bill Martinez Live.

1068
00:56:05.079 --> 00:56:07.039
Hey, good morning, welcome six minutes after the top of

1069
00:56:07.039 --> 00:56:09.960
the are right now, Bill Martinez here with Maria Espinosa

1070
00:56:10.199 --> 00:56:13.519
from the Remembrance Project. Maria, good to have you with us.

1071
00:56:13.599 --> 00:56:14.760
Happy Fourth of July to you.

1072
00:56:16.519 --> 00:56:18.519
Yes, thank you, Bill, it's good to be here. Thank

1073
00:56:18.559 --> 00:56:19.480
you for inviting you.

1074
00:56:20.119 --> 00:56:23.440
Well, you know, I want to talk about birthright citizenship

1075
00:56:23.440 --> 00:56:26.440
and also talk about the Remembrance Project. I mean, this

1076
00:56:26.480 --> 00:56:29.360
is something that you and your husband, your organization, you

1077
00:56:29.400 --> 00:56:32.480
guys have been on this for how many years now, Maria.

1078
00:56:32.599 --> 00:56:35.800
Sixteen years, sixteen years.

1079
00:56:35.360 --> 00:56:38.079
Sixteen years, and this was all.

1080
00:56:37.920 --> 00:56:43.920
In response to American citizens being killed by people who

1081
00:56:43.920 --> 00:56:47.000
had come into our country illegally exactly.

1082
00:56:47.119 --> 00:56:48.719
And you know, this is not part of the plan

1083
00:56:48.760 --> 00:56:50.639
of what we were supposed to be doing. And at

1084
00:56:50.639 --> 00:56:53.920
the most I thought maybe two maybe three years, just

1085
00:56:54.000 --> 00:56:56.559
to inform our legislators.

1086
00:56:56.679 --> 00:56:57.760
But you know, it just happened.

1087
00:56:57.800 --> 00:57:01.159
One evening we were watching the Evey News and saw

1088
00:57:01.239 --> 00:57:04.760
a report about a Houston police officer being shot but

1089
00:57:04.880 --> 00:57:09.360
illegal alien. The report talked about another case prior, another

1090
00:57:09.400 --> 00:57:11.960
police officer that was killed by an illegal alien, and

1091
00:57:12.000 --> 00:57:15.159
that the wife had brought a lawsuit and that actually

1092
00:57:15.199 --> 00:57:17.239
that's what intrigued me because I have a I was

1093
00:57:17.280 --> 00:57:21.239
a legal assistant for years, and during my research, I

1094
00:57:21.320 --> 00:57:25.639
found out that it was over sanctuary city policies in Houston.

1095
00:57:25.800 --> 00:57:30.760
Even back then, sixteen years ago, sanctuary city policies. Yeah,

1096
00:57:29.679 --> 00:57:33.239
so this has been something that's been around for decades,

1097
00:57:33.320 --> 00:57:40.840
sanctuary cities and protections of non citizens And what does

1098
00:57:40.880 --> 00:57:43.960
it cost us many? How many lives? Do we have

1099
00:57:44.000 --> 00:57:46.719
an estimate at all yet in terms of how many

1100
00:57:46.760 --> 00:57:49.960
American citizens have been murdered at the hands And we're

1101
00:57:49.960 --> 00:57:53.920
not even talking you know, rapes or robberies or anything

1102
00:57:54.000 --> 00:57:58.599
like that. We're talking just homicides that have been perpetrated

1103
00:57:58.639 --> 00:58:00.400
on American citizens.

1104
00:58:00.559 --> 00:58:03.639
Exactly one percent preventable and those people had a right

1105
00:58:03.719 --> 00:58:06.159
to live and they should still be here with their families.

1106
00:58:06.320 --> 00:58:07.840
We don't have a number on that bill.

1107
00:58:08.119 --> 00:58:11.159
And it's very difficult, as you know, and that with

1108
00:58:11.199 --> 00:58:16.599
the different ministrations. Also, you know, the century city jurisdictions

1109
00:58:16.679 --> 00:58:19.559
do not collaborate with the federal government. They don't keep track.

1110
00:58:19.599 --> 00:58:22.320
If they keep track, they're not sharing them. So, you know,

1111
00:58:22.440 --> 00:58:26.199
under Obama became more difficult and the media outlets which

1112
00:58:26.320 --> 00:58:29.280
we now are fake news. You know, back then we

1113
00:58:29.320 --> 00:58:33.719
didn't think that way. They simply would not inform the

1114
00:58:33.800 --> 00:58:36.960
public of the immigration status of the perpetrator. So we

1115
00:58:37.079 --> 00:58:41.280
don't have that number for a solid number, but you

1116
00:58:41.320 --> 00:58:44.519
can look in our website on in our Facebook page

1117
00:58:44.760 --> 00:58:48.239
the Remembranceproject dot org of the banners that we have up,

1118
00:58:48.320 --> 00:58:51.320
which very difficult again to keep up with because there

1119
00:58:51.320 --> 00:58:53.239
are so many killings, especially now.

1120
00:58:54.119 --> 00:58:56.960
Well you know here you were as a legal assistant

1121
00:58:57.079 --> 00:59:02.920
right previously, and so you are starting to interact and

1122
00:59:03.440 --> 00:59:06.320
do some research and as you discover more and more

1123
00:59:06.320 --> 00:59:08.920
of this, this had to be shocking for you, Like

1124
00:59:09.159 --> 00:59:13.559
how could something really on its face so illegally be

1125
00:59:13.719 --> 00:59:16.360
operating in a constitutional republic?

1126
00:59:17.440 --> 00:59:19.599
Right and goodness, I come me off guard.

1127
00:59:20.400 --> 00:59:25.320
Yeah, so at first it was absolutely shocking, and I

1128
00:59:25.320 --> 00:59:26.159
mean it still is.

1129
00:59:26.199 --> 00:59:28.119
You just can't get that out of your head.

1130
00:59:28.119 --> 00:59:31.559
And all the families and reading memorial pages of the families,

1131
00:59:31.639 --> 00:59:34.880
you know, the angel moms and dads where they're missing

1132
00:59:34.960 --> 00:59:38.519
their children and they're putting ads in the paper on

1133
00:59:38.599 --> 00:59:42.760
there should have been their sixteenth birthday, you know, things

1134
00:59:42.800 --> 00:59:46.039
like that, And we had no idea that this was

1135
00:59:46.079 --> 00:59:50.360
such a huge problem. We focused on simply in the

1136
00:59:50.360 --> 00:59:54.880
city of Houston, and then Texas and then to other states,

1137
00:59:54.960 --> 00:59:59.079
and we found that we needed to connect the dots

1138
00:59:59.159 --> 01:00:03.039
for them. And that's why the Stolen Lives Quilt banners

1139
01:00:03.159 --> 01:00:06.440
came to be, because we wanted people in Massachusetts to

1140
01:00:06.480 --> 01:00:09.119
know what was going on in California and Texas, you know,

1141
01:00:09.239 --> 01:00:13.119
and even within their own state, because we were losing

1142
01:00:13.320 --> 01:00:18.119
our entire country, you know, one life at a time, exactly.

1143
01:00:19.039 --> 01:00:21.599
You brought the quilt up to tell our audience about

1144
01:00:21.599 --> 01:00:24.360
the quilt for those that you know, maybe just hearing

1145
01:00:24.400 --> 01:00:26.639
about it for the first time, because this is so

1146
01:00:26.760 --> 01:00:29.880
special what you've done as a part of the remembrance project.

1147
01:00:30.639 --> 01:00:35.559
Yes, it is a visual memorial for the victims, and

1148
01:00:35.599 --> 01:00:40.800
we have their photo, their name, their age, a short

1149
01:00:40.920 --> 01:00:43.599
bit of how they were killed, if it was a crash,

1150
01:00:43.719 --> 01:00:46.800
it was they were stabbed to death, shot and also

1151
01:00:46.960 --> 01:00:50.440
sometimes the family is able to, you know, if we

1152
01:00:50.559 --> 01:00:54.440
reach them and if they contact us, to put a

1153
01:00:54.480 --> 01:00:56.400
little information at the.

1154
01:00:56.440 --> 01:00:58.119
Bottom, you know, dearly missed.

1155
01:00:58.239 --> 01:01:00.519
You know, they have a pet name for them, you know,

1156
01:01:00.559 --> 01:01:04.039
their classmates and things like that on the bottom, so

1157
01:01:04.079 --> 01:01:08.960
that we really the public gets to know, yeah, this

1158
01:01:09.079 --> 01:01:12.599
individual and what we're losing. So and that is on

1159
01:01:12.639 --> 01:01:17.559
a polyessis of fabric. The individual Stone Lives quote banners

1160
01:01:17.679 --> 01:01:20.639
are three feet tall by two feet wide, and at

1161
01:01:20.719 --> 01:01:24.519
times we send them to if there's three victims on one,

1162
01:01:24.920 --> 01:01:27.639
we send that to maybe a group in that state.

1163
01:01:27.880 --> 01:01:30.440
And I'm glad you brought that up, bill because we

1164
01:01:30.480 --> 01:01:35.679
are gearing up to recognize the remembrance month in October

1165
01:01:36.519 --> 01:01:41.039
and that was teed off from President Trump's proclamation of

1166
01:01:41.119 --> 01:01:44.039
the National Dair. Remember it's back in October of twenty twenty,

1167
01:01:44.639 --> 01:01:47.199
so you know, go to our website, everyone on our

1168
01:01:47.239 --> 01:01:53.119
Facebook page at Stone Life's QLT and share those banners.

1169
01:01:53.440 --> 01:01:56.599
Yeah. The thing that's amazing, though we don't have the numbers,

1170
01:01:57.000 --> 01:01:59.679
The thing that I was able to find out, Maria,

1171
01:01:59.800 --> 01:02:03.760
is that every state of the Union has experienced a

1172
01:02:03.840 --> 01:02:08.320
homicide at the hands of an illegal migrant. And you

1173
01:02:08.400 --> 01:02:11.440
think of the rippling effect, you say, oh, you know,

1174
01:02:11.519 --> 01:02:13.320
and I get it. Some people say, well, that's just

1175
01:02:13.400 --> 01:02:17.079
one person. No, it's not one person. It is a

1176
01:02:17.239 --> 01:02:21.639
family is everything. It's the legacy of that family that's

1177
01:02:21.719 --> 01:02:25.679
involved there, you know, and it just seems so calous

1178
01:02:25.719 --> 01:02:27.960
because you know, These are the kind of comments you

1179
01:02:28.000 --> 01:02:32.159
hear sometimes in congressional hearings that these discompassionate people think,

1180
01:02:32.480 --> 01:02:37.639
you know, in order to justify the unjustifiable sanctuary cities,

1181
01:02:37.960 --> 01:02:39.960
that they come up with these kind of you know,

1182
01:02:40.079 --> 01:02:41.639
discompassionate statements.

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Maria exactly.

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You know, they're illegal bill and basically unconstitutional because it

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places these illegal aliens above and they're untouchable, you know,

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in some of those crimes that they commit, they're allowed

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to just pass.

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And that's so wrong. And I think this when we

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first started, this was.

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So bewildering to me that I thought, you know, why

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if people are so strongly set on these century jurisdictions,

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then why don't they pay for that. If you are

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so set to protect and give illegal aliens protections and amnesty,

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well then they should support them. Maybe we should have

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an illegal alien tax. And if you voted for supporting

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these illegal aliens, which is aiding in the betting, then

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you get to pay for I mean it makes sense

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to me. I mean, how fast with those individuals change

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their minds about central courting policies.

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That's like, so much of what operates in the government

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is that, and why we're at thirty nine trillion dollars

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in debt. O by the way, is because you have

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these interests groups who come in and they get their cause,

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and somehow, through wrangling and I think some political influence,

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they're able to tap into the treasury of the American people.

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And then here we are, whether it's abortion or sanctuary

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cities or things that we don't believe in. Uh, the

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American people have to have to unwittingly, you know, support

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their cause.

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Yes, And I'll give you an example. You know, I testified,

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gave public comment before the Harris County Commissioner's Corps and

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at that time, the judge there wanted to give at

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legal defense fund type for illegal aliens. In amount, I

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think it was like two and a quarter million dollars

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two and fifty thousand today, and this was five years ago. Today,

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bill they've received eight point three million, and there it's

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earmarked for another million this year. And especially after the

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drainage problems that we have after hurricanes in Houston, how

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many people were displaced and out of their homes. You know,

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we need that money to fix our roadways and our

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drainess system and help whoever else who are really truly

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in need and hardworking families who might be just down

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and out temporarily. So that gives you a picture. Two

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hundred and fifty thousand now is over nine million, exactly.

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Well, that's the way it happens, and it starts to

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national director of the Remembrance Project. All that we're talking

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about here, what it comes down to is one angel

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Mom said, is that you're putting illegals, illegals ahead of

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American citizens. How as that just and fair?

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It isn't. And that's the argument. You know it is not.

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And you know we had one legislator even state that, oh,

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it's just one person, it's just one little girl's life. Well,

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you wouldn't feel that way, missus legislator, if you were

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in this angel mom's shoes, and if it was your

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only child who was brutally stabbed to death by an

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illegal alien who shouldn't have been here and should have

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been in jail because he had a criminal record and

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where his own country would not even repatriot him exactly.

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Well, and this is the thing, and these angel parents,

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moms and dads, they're the ones that are you know,

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not sleeping in the middle of the night, waking up

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in the middle of night in pain. Their heart is aching,

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and they probably you know, treasure of the moment of

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sleep to where their mind can be you know, kept away.

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But how do you do that? I mean, it's with

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them constantly. And then here it is. You know, we've

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got a Fourth of July holiday, two hundred and fiftieth

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all that America represents, and your child has been murdered

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by an illegal uh an illegal entrant into our country.

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And these parents are having to live with that and thinking,

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wait a minute, what, what's what's going on with my

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country that I cannot I cannot feel secure and safe exactly.

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And you know, and many times these family members have

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health problems built from all the trauma and oh gosh,

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and heartbreak. I see it over and over, you know,

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and it's you know, very difficult for them. And you know,

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you're talking about it brings up, you know, feelings to

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01:11:52.399 --> 01:11:56.159
your audience as well, and it's just you just can't imagine,

1343
01:11:56.359 --> 01:11:59.439
you know, what they go through every day then to

1344
01:11:59.760 --> 01:12:03.079
hear in the news on what's taking place in their

1345
01:12:03.079 --> 01:12:06.439
country and hear their child lies six feet under while

1346
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these politicians are feeling what I say, their campaign coffers

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with the money from all these open border pro amnesty companies,

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possibly while their child is six feet in America's coffins.

1349
01:12:21.199 --> 01:12:25.039
Yeah, you're exactly right, Maria, And you see this all

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plays into you know, whether we're talking sanctuary cities and

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01:12:29.119 --> 01:12:33.159
of course the Supreme Court. Uh, I'm sure there's decision

1352
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here this week on birthright citizenship. See, this is all

1353
01:12:37.800 --> 01:12:40.800
part and parcel of the problem that we have here

1354
01:12:40.840 --> 01:12:43.760
in the country. So what they have done, you know,

1355
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to again consistent with what you're saying, is there disenfranchising

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America citizens and they're devaluing our citizenship.

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Mariah, absolutely, and look they roll this out a happy

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Birthday America way right. Oh, it just angers me to

1359
01:13:03.039 --> 01:13:07.439
know and Bill, but we're focused and we're doing other

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things also. But yes, absolutely, there are things that we

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can do that are solutions, you know, and those have

1362
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been those solutions to birthright citizenship. Number One, it has

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01:13:17.520 --> 01:13:20.359
to be interpreted properly, and you know, I'm sure you

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know all this, But we can also give certificates of

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birth of an illegal alien child who was born here,

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you know, give you know, we're not saying they're not

1367
01:13:30.239 --> 01:13:34.079
born of course, which I've heard some people say was outrageous,

1368
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but we can give them a certificate of birth. But

1369
01:13:36.399 --> 01:13:42.119
it but also we this proving no amnesty first of all,

1370
01:13:42.159 --> 01:13:46.199
in birthright citizenship obviously is amnesty. So you know, I

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01:13:46.279 --> 01:13:53.600
believe that we can retroactively roll back this birthright citizenship.

1372
01:13:54.720 --> 01:13:56.640
And look at third world countries are doing this. Why

1373
01:13:56.640 --> 01:14:00.439
can't the Man States of America. People have to prove

1374
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that their parents were citizens or at least one.

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Yeah, the will of the people has to be clearly

1376
01:14:08.079 --> 01:14:11.920
you know, voted out and discerned. And of course then

1377
01:14:11.960 --> 01:14:15.239
of course that brings other issues because we have the

1378
01:14:15.279 --> 01:14:17.840
say back that needs to be passed so that we

1379
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can secure elections, so that the consent of the governed

1380
01:14:20.920 --> 01:14:23.800
is actually the consent of the governed, not the consent

1381
01:14:23.880 --> 01:14:27.760
of the administrative state or these other NGOs that have

1382
01:14:27.800 --> 01:14:31.640
an outside interest that is devaluing our citizenship.

1383
01:14:31.680 --> 01:14:34.880
Maria, Oh, absolutely, there are things that can that should

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01:14:34.920 --> 01:14:36.600
be done or should have already been done. I mean,

1385
01:14:36.680 --> 01:14:40.239
you talk about the NGOs. Why are our tax dollars

1386
01:14:40.279 --> 01:14:44.000
going to these non governmental organizations that are aiding and

1387
01:14:44.039 --> 01:14:47.000
abetting illegal aliens? You know, why haven't we put a

1388
01:14:47.039 --> 01:14:49.600
stop to all of that. I'm sure it's going to

1389
01:14:49.600 --> 01:14:52.319
be in a lawsuit, but look, it's ruining our country.

1390
01:14:52.319 --> 01:14:54.960
It's destroying our country from within, and that's what we

1391
01:14:55.039 --> 01:15:00.199
have to stop. And these people who employ illegal aliens

1392
01:15:00.720 --> 01:15:05.880
as subcontractors or contractors, they have to be absolutely punished.

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And I would say, Bill, look, you know when Donald

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Trump was running for the presidency the second time, he

1395
01:15:11.439 --> 01:15:17.520
campaigned on mass deportation, which is exactly what we hired

1396
01:15:17.600 --> 01:15:23.159
him to do, right, So why is it that these

1397
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illegal aliens are still here. They've been given their pink slip,

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They've been given the opportunity to have a free trip

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back home, a free flight with.

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Money in their pockets.

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So now I believe those who have property here, who

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have owned a vehicle, I think we need to implement

1403
01:15:42.159 --> 01:15:47.600
reco type laws and confiscate that property, sell it and

1404
01:15:47.720 --> 01:15:50.000
repay the citizen taxpayer.

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01:15:50.279 --> 01:15:51.279
That makes sense to me.

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01:15:52.119 --> 01:15:56.119
No, I agree, because the citizens didn't We didn't have

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did we have a vote in this. I mean, arguably

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you could say we didn't because you know, unfortunately, the

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ballot box has been compromised for decades, not just in

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the twenty twenty election. This has been going on forever.

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In fact, you know, it was a bit disturbing for

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if the truth be known, JFK was. You know, we

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01:16:24.199 --> 01:16:27.359
kind of manipulated things in Illinois, and that's how JFK

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01:16:27.479 --> 01:16:31.079
got elected. Are you kidding me? I mean, so, so

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01:16:31.239 --> 01:16:36.359
this is all acceptable parlance. This is all acceptable, you know,

1418
01:16:36.560 --> 01:16:40.039
way to play the game in politics, right that you

1419
01:16:40.079 --> 01:16:43.520
can cheat and stuff the ballot box as long as

1420
01:16:43.600 --> 01:16:47.520
you know the ends justify the means as determined by

1421
01:16:48.199 --> 01:16:50.079
you know, a small group of people and I and

1422
01:16:50.159 --> 01:16:53.720
I say small small minded, because you have to be

1423
01:16:53.800 --> 01:16:58.319
small minded to attack our constitution and to and to

1424
01:16:58.479 --> 01:17:02.039
injure its foundation and in such a way that it compromises,

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01:17:02.840 --> 01:17:06.520
you know, the strength and the reason that our constitution exists,

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01:17:06.680 --> 01:17:08.720
which is we the people. It's a government up for

1427
01:17:08.800 --> 01:17:11.600
by we the people, not the administrative state, not political

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01:17:11.640 --> 01:17:14.560
interests certainly not now. I mean here, you know, to

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01:17:14.600 --> 01:17:17.760
your point earlier, Maria, look at all the outside money,

1430
01:17:17.760 --> 01:17:20.840
the foreign money that's coming into our country. And it's

1431
01:17:20.880 --> 01:17:23.680
not just absolutely it's not just the trillions of dollars

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01:17:23.680 --> 01:17:27.439
that Trump has been you know, capturing for investment. We're

1433
01:17:27.479 --> 01:17:32.159
talking about people who are coming in and subverting our

1434
01:17:32.199 --> 01:17:37.399
young people. They have captured our institutions, whether it's education,

1435
01:17:38.039 --> 01:17:40.520
the media, you know, right on down the line.

1436
01:17:41.239 --> 01:17:43.760
Right exactly. You said a lot there. So I do

1437
01:17:43.880 --> 01:17:46.239
want to say that, Look, there's a way to stop

1438
01:17:46.239 --> 01:17:49.960
this corruption, and that is consequences built. And we have

1439
01:17:50.159 --> 01:17:52.560
yet to put people in jail. Look at the j

1440
01:17:52.760 --> 01:17:56.000
six or the January six people who were detained, and

1441
01:17:56.239 --> 01:18:00.880
my opinion, unconstitutionally and illegally what they did to them

1442
01:18:01.000 --> 01:18:04.840
is coming out, you know, is absolutely wrong. Who's going

1443
01:18:04.880 --> 01:18:05.760
to pay for that bill?

1444
01:18:06.199 --> 01:18:06.560
No one.

1445
01:18:06.680 --> 01:18:11.079
So what happens is they'll continue to do this. And also,

1446
01:18:11.199 --> 01:18:13.600
and you're you hit the nail on my head over

1447
01:18:13.680 --> 01:18:16.000
a dozen years ago. I would say probably fourteen years

1448
01:18:16.000 --> 01:18:20.880
ago that I was at a conference and I say infiltrated.

1449
01:18:20.960 --> 01:18:25.079
It was liberals who got together like care and environmentalists

1450
01:18:25.079 --> 01:18:31.920
from California and others, very liberals and self proclaimed communists.

1451
01:18:32.239 --> 01:18:36.479
You know, they talked about that there was something this

1452
01:18:36.560 --> 01:18:42.079
was back in June, right before occupy, and they talked

1453
01:18:42.079 --> 01:18:44.920
about that there was something going to take place that

1454
01:18:45.079 --> 01:18:54.359
was nationwide and internationally supported, so outside money to subvert

1455
01:18:54.520 --> 01:18:58.239
our governant to make it look like all these you

1456
01:18:58.239 --> 01:19:03.079
know kind of tency and occupied were just popping up organically,

1457
01:19:03.439 --> 01:19:05.720
and that's not at all what was taking place, you know,

1458
01:19:05.800 --> 01:19:09.000
to us naively, we were just here raising our children

1459
01:19:09.079 --> 01:19:11.000
and making sure that they did you know, did their

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01:19:11.000 --> 01:19:15.000
homework and volunteering for PDA and all, and you know,

1461
01:19:15.079 --> 01:19:17.479
making sure HOA is not in our case about our

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01:19:17.520 --> 01:19:21.119
grass or something, you know, right. But yet all around

1463
01:19:21.239 --> 01:19:27.960
us these people with nefarious ideas and to take down America, America,

1464
01:19:28.000 --> 01:19:31.600
hating individuals and you know, sum are citizens here. Of course,

1465
01:19:33.479 --> 01:19:37.079
they were planning, they were working, you know, to ruin

1466
01:19:37.319 --> 01:19:40.479
our wonderful life here and what we have as America.

1467
01:19:41.039 --> 01:19:43.479
So I think people need to understand that too, and

1468
01:19:43.520 --> 01:19:45.680
maybe some of us are seeing that and more and

1469
01:19:45.720 --> 01:19:47.560
more with the news and the fake news and all,

1470
01:19:48.439 --> 01:19:51.239
and you know, that's what we're up against. If we

1471
01:19:51.439 --> 01:19:54.239
understand that there is an element out there that wants

1472
01:19:54.239 --> 01:19:55.479
to destroy America.

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01:19:55.840 --> 01:19:57.359
You will completely.

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01:19:56.960 --> 01:20:00.319
Understand why some of this is taking place. And we

1475
01:20:00.399 --> 01:20:02.800
wonder why our politicians, who many of them are in

1476
01:20:02.800 --> 01:20:06.800
the pockets of some of these organizations or companies or packs.

1477
01:20:07.720 --> 01:20:11.039
You know, that's what's going on here. But there are

1478
01:20:11.079 --> 01:20:13.520
more of us, bill than there are of them. They

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01:20:13.600 --> 01:20:16.199
might have the money, they've got the bucks, but you

1480
01:20:16.199 --> 01:20:17.760
know we've got that.

1481
01:20:17.840 --> 01:20:21.159
We've got the numbers right exactly, and the numbers must

1482
01:20:21.199 --> 01:20:24.079
come together in the name of freedom, for the cause

1483
01:20:24.119 --> 01:20:27.279
of freedom, as we celebrate our two hundred and fiftieth

1484
01:20:27.279 --> 01:20:31.399
anniversary of fourth of July. Maria Espinoza she's the co

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01:20:31.479 --> 01:20:34.439
founder and National director of the Remembrance Project. The website

1486
01:20:34.439 --> 01:20:35.920
they can go to Maria.

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01:20:36.479 --> 01:20:40.159
Now Remembrance Project dot org. And I ask your listeners

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to please continue praying.

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Well, welcome back America. Glad you could join us. Bill

1553
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Martinez here and Alfonso Rivero joins us now to talk

1554
01:24:23.199 --> 01:24:26.319
about the Capitol Fourth that's coming up this weekend, and

1555
01:24:26.600 --> 01:24:30.640
we're all excited about kicking off America's historic Independence Day

1556
01:24:30.720 --> 01:24:34.520
weekend starts this Friday, July the third. As the iconic

1557
01:24:34.600 --> 01:24:39.520
TV personality Alfonso Rivero is back to host a Capital

1558
01:24:39.600 --> 01:24:43.720
Fourth two hundred and fiftieth weekend celebration. Alfonso, good to

1559
01:24:43.720 --> 01:24:44.720
have you with us, how you've been.

1560
01:24:45.560 --> 01:24:48.640
I am fantastic, Thanks for having me again, appreciate it.

1561
01:24:48.960 --> 01:24:51.439
This is getting to be a fun annual experience for

1562
01:24:51.520 --> 01:24:54.319
the two of us. I appreciate you, and I'm so

1563
01:24:54.479 --> 01:24:58.319
grateful to see you, know, your talent and the gift

1564
01:24:58.359 --> 01:25:01.119
that you give America in a space actually on this

1565
01:25:01.720 --> 01:25:05.920
you know, celebratory event of two hundred and fiftieth years.

1566
01:25:06.079 --> 01:25:08.680
I mean, did you ever think that you'd be doing

1567
01:25:08.720 --> 01:25:11.239
this on such an iconic birthday?

1568
01:25:12.239 --> 01:25:16.000
Absolutely not, would have never guessed it. But so happy

1569
01:25:16.239 --> 01:25:19.479
and honored and excited to be a part of this,

1570
01:25:20.600 --> 01:25:23.520
you know, to be there in d C on the

1571
01:25:23.520 --> 01:25:26.159
West lawn of the Capitol hosting a Capitol fourth on

1572
01:25:26.199 --> 01:25:30.760
the two fiftieth birthday celebration is something that I will

1573
01:25:30.800 --> 01:25:32.359
remember for the rest of my life. And to be

1574
01:25:32.399 --> 01:25:36.479
a part of this is incredible. We have such an

1575
01:25:36.479 --> 01:25:40.560
incredible show planned for this year as always, We've got

1576
01:25:41.800 --> 01:25:45.439
incredible artist Trace Atkins, Patti LaBelle Cool in the Gang, Chicago,

1577
01:25:46.079 --> 01:25:50.199
Carly Pierce, Angel Blue, We've got Lauren Alred doing a

1578
01:25:50.319 --> 01:25:54.840
beautiful song for us as we are. As for the

1579
01:25:54.880 --> 01:25:58.359
first time we will be in at George Washington's Mount

1580
01:25:58.479 --> 01:26:02.560
Vernon to have incredible firework show, and so this is

1581
01:26:02.640 --> 01:26:06.279
gonna be absolutely spectacular and so excited to be part

1582
01:26:06.279 --> 01:26:06.560
of it.

1583
01:26:06.960 --> 01:26:09.399
Well, of course, then we're going to enjoy in the background,

1584
01:26:09.560 --> 01:26:13.479
Maestro check every conducting the National Symphony Orchestra as the

1585
01:26:13.520 --> 01:26:16.680
fireworks are going off. That's always a highlight of the show.

1586
01:26:16.520 --> 01:26:20.319
Right, it is always. It really just brings the whole

1587
01:26:20.319 --> 01:26:25.920
show together. And the eighteen twelve overtures is incredible. And

1588
01:26:25.960 --> 01:26:28.800
we have a we have a beautiful, incredible tribute that

1589
01:26:28.880 --> 01:26:33.279
we plan to do three tributes. We've got Gary Sonize

1590
01:26:33.279 --> 01:26:36.159
who's going to be doing our tribute to the Artemis

1591
01:26:36.279 --> 01:26:40.520
two crew. We've got our Olympians and Paralympians, and as

1592
01:26:40.560 --> 01:26:44.680
always we will be joined by men and women of

1593
01:26:44.720 --> 01:26:47.880
our Armed forces and we will have a tribute to

1594
01:26:47.920 --> 01:26:51.720
them as well. And so we we've got Pershing Zone,

1595
01:26:52.640 --> 01:26:55.920
We've got you know, so many military bands that are

1596
01:26:55.960 --> 01:26:58.760
gonna be with us. It's gonna be h it's gonna beautiful,

1597
01:26:58.760 --> 01:27:01.920
it's gonna be incredible. Shows excited and so ready to

1598
01:27:01.920 --> 01:27:03.079
get my butt to DC to.

1599
01:27:03.239 --> 01:27:06.279
So I bet I went a time for patriotism. I mean,

1600
01:27:06.319 --> 01:27:08.680
it's always such a blessing, you know, for the audience.

1601
01:27:08.800 --> 01:27:10.760
Plus you got our good friend Joe Montagna is going

1602
01:27:10.800 --> 01:27:11.760
to be on stage.

1603
01:27:11.439 --> 01:27:15.880
Two, right, Yeah, he's he's actually remote. He's going to

1604
01:27:15.960 --> 01:27:21.119
be introducing the band Chicago as as perfect as he

1605
01:27:21.199 --> 01:27:24.000
should be, you know, as a as A, as A,

1606
01:27:23.960 --> 01:27:26.279
as A, as a young man from Chicago. He's going

1607
01:27:26.319 --> 01:27:27.720
to introduce the band.

1608
01:27:28.039 --> 01:27:30.479
Well. I had a fun time talking with with Lee

1609
01:27:30.600 --> 01:27:34.359
Locknik and from Chicago because for many years in La

1610
01:27:34.920 --> 01:27:37.159
I played their music. In fact, I reminded him, I said,

1611
01:27:37.239 --> 01:27:39.399
you realize feeling stronger every day. I was the first

1612
01:27:39.439 --> 01:27:42.479
person on the planet to play that song because our

1613
01:27:42.520 --> 01:27:46.640
program director had brought, you know, a master of the

1614
01:27:46.760 --> 01:27:49.960
song that he brought in from from Denver where they

1615
01:27:49.960 --> 01:27:53.199
were doing the you know, doing the tracks for the

1616
01:27:53.279 --> 01:27:56.520
new album, and he brought this forty five in. He says, hey,

1617
01:27:57.279 --> 01:28:00.680
this is hot off the presses. It's Chicago new song.

1618
01:28:01.000 --> 01:28:03.119
And I told I told Lee, I said, I not

1619
01:28:03.159 --> 01:28:05.239
only played it once, I played it back to back.

1620
01:28:06.439 --> 01:28:08.039
Oh that's cool, that's very cool.

1621
01:28:08.399 --> 01:28:11.520
Yes, so great, so great memories. But yes, I mean

1622
01:28:11.720 --> 01:28:15.600
the talent that is there that on display for this

1623
01:28:15.720 --> 01:28:19.760
July fourth, two hundred and fiftieth weekend celebration. I mean,

1624
01:28:20.039 --> 01:28:24.399
the team puts together every year such outstanding talent, So

1625
01:28:24.399 --> 01:28:26.199
it's just got to be fun for you to kind of,

1626
01:28:26.439 --> 01:28:30.159
you know, in a sense, MC and orchestrate all this talent, right.

1627
01:28:31.039 --> 01:28:35.359
It's it feels incredible when you recognize that, you know,

1628
01:28:35.439 --> 01:28:38.720
you've got all of these incredible people and I'm standing there,

1629
01:28:39.079 --> 01:28:42.359
you know, moving the show and getting to introduce all

1630
01:28:42.399 --> 01:28:46.640
of them. It is it is an honor beyond honors.

1631
01:28:47.800 --> 01:28:50.199
Well, and you say one of the highlights the art

1632
01:28:50.199 --> 01:28:54.000
of his two crew boy talk about capturing the imaginations

1633
01:28:54.039 --> 01:28:54.640
of America.

1634
01:28:54.760 --> 01:28:58.760
Huh, yeah, I mean it's pretty special to think that

1635
01:28:58.800 --> 01:29:02.039
we're now, after this many years, going back up to

1636
01:29:02.079 --> 01:29:06.520
the Moon and to have you know, to navigate the

1637
01:29:06.520 --> 01:29:11.159
Moon and come on back is very special. And to

1638
01:29:11.279 --> 01:29:13.760
think that this is just the beginning of this next

1639
01:29:13.880 --> 01:29:21.119
chapter of space journey. These astronauts deserve such love and

1640
01:29:21.199 --> 01:29:23.760
praise and honor, and we will be doing that on

1641
01:29:23.840 --> 01:29:24.439
July third.

1642
01:29:25.000 --> 01:29:29.239
Yeah, it really points to again the exceptionalism of America.

1643
01:29:29.600 --> 01:29:32.319
And what better time than our two hundred and fiftieth

1644
01:29:32.399 --> 01:29:36.239
birthday celebration and also, I don't know how funds, so

1645
01:29:36.279 --> 01:29:39.000
if you're aware, But I mean they've got a very

1646
01:29:39.039 --> 01:29:41.520
aggressive two three year plan. I mean, you know, we

1647
01:29:41.600 --> 01:29:45.119
know that space travel was kind of intermittent there for

1648
01:29:45.159 --> 01:29:47.439
a while, but they've hit the ground running and they've

1649
01:29:47.439 --> 01:29:49.720
got exciting plans over the next couple of years. So

1650
01:29:50.479 --> 01:29:52.479
I say, put on your seat belts and get ready.

1651
01:29:53.319 --> 01:29:55.600
Yep, we're all going. We're all going for a beautiful ride.

1652
01:29:55.920 --> 01:29:58.840
Yeah, well, there it is. So every year when you

1653
01:29:58.880 --> 01:30:01.920
do this, what kind of planning, you know, as you

1654
01:30:02.119 --> 01:30:04.680
as you put this together, and like you said, you're

1655
01:30:04.720 --> 01:30:08.279
you're eagerly and waiting and excited to go to d C.

1656
01:30:09.720 --> 01:30:11.479
You know, what do you do to you know, plan

1657
01:30:11.560 --> 01:30:12.720
and get ready for this event?

1658
01:30:13.560 --> 01:30:15.760
You know, there's there's not a lot to do on

1659
01:30:15.800 --> 01:30:18.720
my part in terms of you know, until I get

1660
01:30:18.720 --> 01:30:21.760
the script. You know, it's it's the script is everything

1661
01:30:21.800 --> 01:30:25.239
for me. I just got it. So my work really

1662
01:30:25.239 --> 01:30:28.199
starts now, uh, to really get into it and get

1663
01:30:29.079 --> 01:30:31.560
you know, to learn it and and know all the

1664
01:30:31.680 --> 01:30:34.520
nuances and in and outs and and so I will

1665
01:30:34.520 --> 01:30:40.439
start that work, you know, later on today and definitely

1666
01:30:40.439 --> 01:30:43.479
on the plane ride going. But then yeah, we we

1667
01:30:43.600 --> 01:30:46.199
get there and we hit the ground running. We do

1668
01:30:46.359 --> 01:30:50.239
address rehearsal on the second and we're alive on the third,

1669
01:30:50.319 --> 01:30:53.079
so it's a it's a quick turnaround, but we get

1670
01:30:53.119 --> 01:30:54.279
going and we get going fast.

1671
01:30:54.960 --> 01:30:58.439
Well, you know, uh talk about the specialness of you know,

1672
01:30:59.279 --> 01:31:02.960
our patriot has being on display, and I believe that

1673
01:31:03.079 --> 01:31:07.399
America is hungry for this display every year, but especially

1674
01:31:07.479 --> 01:31:08.279
this year, don't.

1675
01:31:08.119 --> 01:31:11.680
You think, Yeah, Well, you know, I think definitely. Right now,

1676
01:31:11.720 --> 01:31:13.760
we we all need to laugh a little, we need

1677
01:31:13.800 --> 01:31:16.520
to you know, love a little, We need to come

1678
01:31:16.520 --> 01:31:20.720
together a bit more. And this is a good time

1679
01:31:20.960 --> 01:31:24.560
to be making that change. And the two fiftieth is

1680
01:31:24.600 --> 01:31:28.399
an opportunity for all Americans to find a way to

1681
01:31:28.439 --> 01:31:32.520
find common ground with one another. And I'm excited to

1682
01:31:32.560 --> 01:31:36.439
see how that all plays out over the next you know,

1683
01:31:36.800 --> 01:31:38.319
you know a few months, you.

1684
01:31:38.279 --> 01:31:41.119
Know, Alfonso, when you think about this rich history of

1685
01:31:41.159 --> 01:31:45.960
this great country of ours, this American idea that we're celebrating,

1686
01:31:46.800 --> 01:31:49.359
I mean, what other country. I mean, We've been so

1687
01:31:49.560 --> 01:31:53.199
blessed to experience this, and you know, the kind of innovation,

1688
01:31:53.560 --> 01:31:58.680
the creativity, the freedom that's been exercised because you know,

1689
01:31:58.720 --> 01:32:01.359
the cherry on top of all this, you know, really

1690
01:32:01.479 --> 01:32:05.199
is the freedom of the individual, a chance, a real

1691
01:32:05.319 --> 01:32:08.319
chance to become the best version of yourself. I don't

1692
01:32:08.359 --> 01:32:11.039
know what other country you could go to to possibly,

1693
01:32:11.359 --> 01:32:13.800
you know, you know, like with your background and all

1694
01:32:13.840 --> 01:32:16.560
that you've done, I mean, where else could you have

1695
01:32:16.920 --> 01:32:19.960
exercised the giftings and talents that God's blessed you with.

1696
01:32:21.199 --> 01:32:24.479
Well, I personally like the thing, I could exercise it everywhere,

1697
01:32:24.520 --> 01:32:27.520
But so you never know how that ever plays out.

1698
01:32:27.600 --> 01:32:30.760
But at the end of the day, we are all

1699
01:32:30.800 --> 01:32:33.800
blessed that we get to be in this with one another.

1700
01:32:34.039 --> 01:32:40.039
And you know, it's it's always about, you know, looking

1701
01:32:40.039 --> 01:32:43.359
at truths, looking at realities, looking at what we want

1702
01:32:43.399 --> 01:32:45.960
it to be. And you know, when you have a dream,

1703
01:32:46.399 --> 01:32:48.800
dreams are not just you know, make believe dreams are

1704
01:32:48.840 --> 01:32:53.439
opportunities to create. And we all have a dream to

1705
01:32:53.439 --> 01:32:56.439
to make this country uh what we want it to be,

1706
01:32:56.600 --> 01:33:00.039
in a better place and in a greater place. And

1707
01:33:00.039 --> 01:33:02.079
and even when you are I say this to my

1708
01:33:02.199 --> 01:33:04.600
kids all the time when they're playing sports, even when

1709
01:33:04.600 --> 01:33:07.600
you're winning, it doesn't mean you're still you're doing everything

1710
01:33:07.640 --> 01:33:09.880
you can, So keep doing all that you can. And

1711
01:33:10.000 --> 01:33:13.159
Cane continue to win, win by more if that's what

1712
01:33:13.199 --> 01:33:15.760
you need to do to be your very best. And

1713
01:33:15.840 --> 01:33:20.439
so my idea is that we continue to strive to

1714
01:33:20.479 --> 01:33:22.680
even be better. Even if we are in the lead,

1715
01:33:22.760 --> 01:33:23.680
we can still be better.

1716
01:33:24.079 --> 01:33:27.079
Amen, alfonzer Rivero, thank you again for you know, coming

1717
01:33:27.119 --> 01:33:30.079
on the show and telling us all about this epic event.

1718
01:33:30.439 --> 01:33:33.359
Remind everybody how they can connect and see it on

1719
01:33:33.680 --> 01:33:35.640
public's TV stations nationwide.

1720
01:33:36.640 --> 01:33:38.800
Well, you can go to PBS obviously, go to PBF

1721
01:33:38.800 --> 01:33:42.239
dot org and you can find where we are and

1722
01:33:42.279 --> 01:33:45.079
your local listings. But know that we will be on

1723
01:33:45.199 --> 01:33:49.079
in July third, and in some places it will be

1724
01:33:49.159 --> 01:33:52.479
July fourth, But there's encore performances of it, and so

1725
01:33:52.600 --> 01:33:54.920
check us out. Enjoy. This is going to be the

1726
01:33:54.960 --> 01:33:58.439
beginning of the two hundred and fiftieth Birthday celebration, and

1727
01:33:58.520 --> 01:34:00.880
A Capital fourth is the best way to start it.

1728
01:34:01.439 --> 01:34:04.039
Well, make sure you tune in and join Alfonso Rivero

1729
01:34:04.199 --> 01:34:07.520
and a cast of incredible talent on July the third

1730
01:34:07.560 --> 01:34:10.319
for a Capitol fourth, two hundred and fiftieth weekend celebration

1731
01:34:10.920 --> 01:34:14.680
live from the US Capitol Building, kicking off America's historic

1732
01:34:14.760 --> 01:34:17.520
birthday party. Alfonso, thank you for being with us. Happy

1733
01:34:17.520 --> 01:34:18.880
fourth of July, my friend.

1734
01:34:19.319 --> 01:34:21.079
Thank you, Thank you very much, you too, have a

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great day.

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Hey, welcome back, Bill Martinez here along with my good

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friend Jeff Caruerer, Louisiana's own and political commentator, host of

1814
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the award winning program Rings Side Politics. Hey Jeff, how

1815
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are we doing doing great?

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Bill?

1817
01:38:36.359 --> 01:38:37.199
Thanks for having me.

1818
01:38:37.439 --> 01:38:42.159
Well, I'm on medication after the Scotis rulings, well some

1819
01:38:42.239 --> 01:38:45.000
of them anyway. I mean, you know, hey, it's like

1820
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what Scotus gives, it takes away. It's almost like, uh,

1821
01:38:49.399 --> 01:38:52.800
you know, Justice Roberts wanted to somehow play nice, play

1822
01:38:52.840 --> 01:38:54.960
down the middle, and you know, give some to Trump,

1823
01:38:55.000 --> 01:38:58.720
give some to the Democrats. You know, he just seems

1824
01:38:58.720 --> 01:39:01.239
to be such a political he can help himself.

1825
01:39:02.039 --> 01:39:06.399
Well we knew that after Obamacare, and he worked hard

1826
01:39:06.399 --> 01:39:08.399
to try to figure out a way to save Obamacare.

1827
01:39:08.960 --> 01:39:11.720
And ever since then, I mean, I've just looked at

1828
01:39:11.800 --> 01:39:15.840
him as being a very political justice and a very

1829
01:39:15.880 --> 01:39:19.880
weak Republican. And you know, so many of the Republican

1830
01:39:20.600 --> 01:39:23.239
justices for the Supreme Court have been disappointments. I mean

1831
01:39:23.279 --> 01:39:30.640
you go back to David Souter, Sandersie O'Connor, Kennedy, obviously Roberts,

1832
01:39:30.720 --> 01:39:33.439
and now you know you can add Amy Cony Barrett

1833
01:39:33.479 --> 01:39:34.760
to that big time.

1834
01:39:34.920 --> 01:39:37.159
Yeah, it's amazing. By contrast, I mean, the Democrats are

1835
01:39:37.239 --> 01:39:39.159
up at arms, but you know, you get the three

1836
01:39:39.159 --> 01:39:44.479
Democrat appointed judges and they're consistent, i mean almost one

1837
01:39:44.520 --> 01:39:47.399
hundred percent, Jeff, that they've stayed, you know, stayed on

1838
01:39:47.439 --> 01:39:50.479
the left. You know, it's like, well, that's not by accident,

1839
01:39:50.560 --> 01:39:52.159
rights by design, that's who they are.

1840
01:39:52.479 --> 01:39:55.600
So we've got a problem with how we vet these judges,

1841
01:39:55.840 --> 01:39:58.720
and we're not doing a very good job. President Trump

1842
01:39:58.800 --> 01:40:01.720
has not gotten good advice, and you know, the only

1843
01:40:01.760 --> 01:40:05.239
consistent one that he has is Gorsic. You know, Kavanaugh

1844
01:40:05.319 --> 01:40:08.279
is better than Amy Cony Barrett, and Amy County Barrett's

1845
01:40:08.439 --> 01:40:10.520
just like an alcolite of John Roberts.

1846
01:40:10.520 --> 01:40:13.159
It seems to me, well exactly, well, I think they're

1847
01:40:13.159 --> 01:40:16.159
too close to uh to d C. You need to

1848
01:40:16.159 --> 01:40:19.359
get them out of there because everything, all the pressure

1849
01:40:19.600 --> 01:40:22.800
there on them. You know, we talk about kiddingly, but

1850
01:40:22.840 --> 01:40:27.319
it's true, the influence of the DC Beltway cocktail party circuit,

1851
01:40:27.760 --> 01:40:30.880
you know, and you know, where can they go outside

1852
01:40:30.920 --> 01:40:33.880
of their homes or outside of the Supreme Court and

1853
01:40:33.960 --> 01:40:37.399
be welcome there? And you know, and that's that's a

1854
01:40:37.399 --> 01:40:40.680
lot of a lot of pressure in that in that

1855
01:40:40.760 --> 01:40:45.520
community that votes ninety six percent Democrat exactly.

1856
01:40:45.560 --> 01:40:47.560
I mean, they go to the cocktail parties, they talk

1857
01:40:47.640 --> 01:40:50.880
to their friends, they're in that little bubble and you're

1858
01:40:50.880 --> 01:40:54.399
one hundred percent right. And so we had decisions that

1859
01:40:54.479 --> 01:40:58.560
allow now ballots to be counted after election day, which

1860
01:40:58.600 --> 01:41:01.359
is ridiculous, and we allow people to come here from

1861
01:41:01.359 --> 01:41:04.680
all over the world illegally have their babies here and

1862
01:41:05.039 --> 01:41:07.880
these are going to be US citizens. I mean right again,

1863
01:41:08.119 --> 01:41:10.680
knowing the country and the world is doing that. We're

1864
01:41:10.720 --> 01:41:13.800
getting other countries have gotten away from mail in balloting,

1865
01:41:14.439 --> 01:41:17.359
so we now are stuck with this due to these

1866
01:41:17.399 --> 01:41:18.600
Supreme Court decisions.

1867
01:41:19.039 --> 01:41:24.960
Yeah, they affirmed a cottage industry of you know, birthright, birthism,

1868
01:41:25.159 --> 01:41:30.600
right right, you know, citizen you know, birthism, and here

1869
01:41:30.600 --> 01:41:32.359
it is. I mean, this has been a growing problem

1870
01:41:32.439 --> 01:41:36.039
on top of the problem we already have with illegal immigration, Jeff.

1871
01:41:36.239 --> 01:41:38.359
When you've got an administration says, look at we've got

1872
01:41:38.399 --> 01:41:41.000
to clean this up, you know, whether it's voter rolls

1873
01:41:41.119 --> 01:41:43.880
or illegal immigrants and that sort of thing. A temporary

1874
01:41:44.199 --> 01:41:47.560
protective status for you know, people who've come to the

1875
01:41:47.600 --> 01:41:50.600
country because their countries were in peril. But you know,

1876
01:41:50.680 --> 01:41:52.840
temporary is temporary. I mean, I mean some of these

1877
01:41:52.880 --> 01:41:55.000
people have been here for over twenty years, Jeff.

1878
01:41:55.119 --> 01:41:58.800
It's amazing, I know, and they've got to go. I mean,

1879
01:41:59.079 --> 01:42:01.159
the American people want to to go. So at least

1880
01:42:01.159 --> 01:42:03.840
that was a decision that was a good win, ending

1881
01:42:03.920 --> 01:42:08.000
TPS for Haitians and Syrians who had been here for

1882
01:42:08.159 --> 01:42:10.960
years and years and years. So, yeah, the Supreme Court

1883
01:42:11.000 --> 01:42:14.520
gave us some singles, some doubles, but they gave the

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left some home runs. I mean, I don't know anything

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bigger than birthright citizenship and these mail and balance those

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are huge losses.

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Well, this is again why the Save Act needs to

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be passed. It's also why Congress needs to get off

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its back in and do some work on these issues

1890
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that Trump has been pointing out. You know, we talk

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about in terms of them being eight to twenty issues,

1892
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but when it gets the Supreme Court, you're rolling the dice.

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And this is what we saw today and in this

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last session of the Supreme Court. And you know, we

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need Congress to do their job and pass these laws.

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And if we need to go so far regarding the

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fourteenth Amendment, you know, we need to have a change

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01:42:53.199 --> 01:42:57.159
to the Constitution, and the people need to get involved

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and chime in and have this national debate and understand

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what birthright citizenship is all about and what the fourteenth

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Amendment originally was about.

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01:43:05.239 --> 01:43:08.640
Jeff Right, and it wasn't about what's going on today,

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01:43:08.720 --> 01:43:11.920
which is a perversion of what the original intent was.

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And you know, I thought some of these conservative justices

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were originalists. They try to get into the mind if

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the original framers of either the Constitution or these amendments

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01:43:22.520 --> 01:43:26.640
and obviously they're not. They're political animals, and as you say,

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01:43:26.640 --> 01:43:30.199
they're influenced too much by this liberal environment that they're

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01:43:30.199 --> 01:43:33.680
in d C. So the job of US, I guess,

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is to put pressure on this Senate to do something.

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And the problem is that they're not listening to the

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people and once again they're ignoring the will of the voters.

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We elected Donald Trump to do these things. He's trying

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to do them. Yet they're putting roadblocks.

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In the way right exactly because they don't really take

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the vote of the people seriously. They see Donald Trump

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as being elected as another anomaly. It wasn't you know.

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01:44:00.920 --> 01:44:03.399
The people really didn't mean that they wanted to take

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care of immigration. They really didn't mean that they wanted

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this administration to do something about fraud. They you know,

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they really didn't care about national security. I mean that's

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just yeah, you know, it's okay to have a terrorist regime,

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have a nuclear weapon.

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I mean, you know, right, Yeah, they obviously are are

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ignoring the will of the people. And what you just said,

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everything from Iran to the border are things Trump has

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01:44:30.960 --> 01:44:35.079
consistently said throughout his career as a politician. We voted

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01:44:35.079 --> 01:44:39.000
for him three times and you know he's back in

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01:44:39.119 --> 01:44:42.119
now and he's having the same roadblocks he had in

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the first term. You know, the Congress is not doing

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what they should be doing. And sadly, after the first

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two years, we had a midterm where the Democrats won seats.

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And that's what I'm worried about happening here. We can't

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allow these Democrats to gain control of Congress because that

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01:44:59.399 --> 01:45:00.560
would be a.

1936
01:45:00.880 --> 01:45:03.840
Well, especially where they are now. I mean, they are

1937
01:45:03.920 --> 01:45:06.680
out of their minds. You know, you and I had

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01:45:06.680 --> 01:45:10.439
this conversation I think four years ago, maybe longer, Jeff,

1939
01:45:10.479 --> 01:45:14.000
because I had predicted that the Democrats were so lost

1940
01:45:14.039 --> 01:45:16.920
that they were going to unravel. Unfortunately, they fixed the

1941
01:45:16.960 --> 01:45:20.239
election of twenty twenty and Joe Biden got in and

1942
01:45:20.279 --> 01:45:24.039
it stayed their execution. Now they're just shooting themselves in

1943
01:45:24.079 --> 01:45:26.560
the foot, you know, with this movement and the takeover

1944
01:45:26.760 --> 01:45:30.600
by these socialists that have hijacked their party. I mean,

1945
01:45:31.239 --> 01:45:33.119
you know, they're totally out of the closet. I mean,

1946
01:45:33.159 --> 01:45:35.039
we've known this for years, you know, back to the

1947
01:45:35.079 --> 01:45:39.000
Obama years. We knew when Barack Obama called about the

1948
01:45:39.359 --> 01:45:42.520
called for the fundamental transformation of our country, it wasn't

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anything that was going to be constitutional by no means.

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And just remember I mean Bill back in the in

1951
01:45:48.399 --> 01:45:50.960
the nineties, I mean we had Bill Clinton who was

1952
01:45:51.000 --> 01:45:54.039
talking about the era of big government is over, welfare reform,

1953
01:45:54.159 --> 01:45:58.359
capital gains, tax cuts, He created a surplus with the

1954
01:45:58.479 --> 01:46:02.479
new gingrich working together balance the budget. I mean, so

1955
01:46:02.520 --> 01:46:06.119
we've gone from that to where we are today. I mean,

1956
01:46:06.119 --> 01:46:09.640
that's a major shift to the left among the Democratic Party.

1957
01:46:10.000 --> 01:46:13.600
Yeah, thirty nine trillion dollars in counting in debt, Jeff.

1958
01:46:13.800 --> 01:46:16.479
Right, And back then we had a surplus. I mean

1959
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it's just and just from two thousand and eight to today,

1960
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we've quadrupled the national debt and we're knocking on the

1961
01:46:23.840 --> 01:46:27.560
door of forty trillion. And nobody seems to be concerned

1962
01:46:27.560 --> 01:46:29.439
about that bill. They don't seem to be doing anything

1963
01:46:29.479 --> 01:46:29.880
about it.

1964
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Well, and the thing, Jeff, you know, these young kids

1965
01:46:32.840 --> 01:46:37.600
that are upset about, you know, capitalism because of what,

1966
01:46:38.119 --> 01:46:40.319
you know, what they're seeing, what they're realizing. You know,

1967
01:46:40.359 --> 01:46:42.720
I keep telling people, I go, look at it's you know,

1968
01:46:42.880 --> 01:46:47.399
correct observation, wrong conclusion. Socialism is not the answer. That

1969
01:46:47.560 --> 01:46:51.600
is the nightmare that has been realized, you know, over

1970
01:46:51.720 --> 01:46:56.960
the history of mankind, shared misery, humanity, the carnage that

1971
01:46:57.000 --> 01:47:00.439
has taken place under socialism. You know you want that

1972
01:47:00.479 --> 01:47:03.479
coming to America, are you real? Okay? But I get it.

1973
01:47:03.520 --> 01:47:05.840
I understand your pain. You were told that if you

1974
01:47:05.880 --> 01:47:09.319
went to college and got one hundred thousand dollars of

1975
01:47:09.399 --> 01:47:12.760
tuition debt, that all would be hunky dory, be okay.

1976
01:47:13.039 --> 01:47:16.960
But the system, the infrastructure of this capitalism system has

1977
01:47:17.000 --> 01:47:19.439
been compromised in such a way that has put all

1978
01:47:19.479 --> 01:47:23.359
that in jeopardy. It's made affordability an issue that was

1979
01:47:23.479 --> 01:47:26.680
in large part you know, yes, you can say, well,

1980
01:47:26.800 --> 01:47:29.000
it's been a little bit of both sides, but primarily

1981
01:47:29.039 --> 01:47:32.359
the Democrats are the ones that have driven with regulations

1982
01:47:32.600 --> 01:47:37.119
and other political favoring that they've done to create this

1983
01:47:37.239 --> 01:47:39.720
lack of affordability and housing and jobs.

1984
01:47:40.800 --> 01:47:43.600
Well, Bill, I just give you to examples. New York,

1985
01:47:43.960 --> 01:47:46.880
I mean, a perfect example of socialism. People are fleeing

1986
01:47:47.319 --> 01:47:51.920
New York City they can't afford it. The state is collapsing. Florida,

1987
01:47:52.359 --> 01:47:54.439
a state where you have a red state, where you

1988
01:47:54.439 --> 01:47:58.359
have a governor that's implementing tax cuts, balancing the budget.

1989
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The state is boom. They now have many more citizens

1990
01:48:02.760 --> 01:48:05.319
in New York. So that gives you an example of

1991
01:48:05.720 --> 01:48:11.159
how socialism fails, how conservatism works when implemented correctly. That's

1992
01:48:11.159 --> 01:48:13.520
exactly what Florida is doing and that should be a

1993
01:48:13.560 --> 01:48:15.359
model for all of our states.

1994
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Yeah. The other thing, Florida can count their votes in

1995
01:48:17.600 --> 01:48:22.279
the same day of voting. California is still counting their votes, right.

1996
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I mean, which makes this whole thing ridiculous. I mean, Bill,

1997
01:48:26.239 --> 01:48:28.920
we got to get back to an election day. We

1998
01:48:28.960 --> 01:48:33.119
can't do an election season. Okay, election day is election day.

1999
01:48:33.159 --> 01:48:35.880
The winner's got to be known on election day. All

2000
01:48:35.920 --> 01:48:38.960
of this other stuff is corrupt. It's just corrupt, and

2001
01:48:39.000 --> 01:48:41.920
people lose faith in the electoral system because of it.

2002
01:48:41.960 --> 01:48:45.119
And it's a crisis. So that's why the Senate has

2003
01:48:45.119 --> 01:48:47.680
got to do something. I mean, but they seem to

2004
01:48:47.720 --> 01:48:51.560
be unwilling to take action. So the President is now

2005
01:48:51.600 --> 01:48:54.279
saying he's not going to sign anything. He doesn't care

2006
01:48:54.279 --> 01:48:56.560
about the housing bill, he doesn't care about anything else.

2007
01:48:56.640 --> 01:48:59.359
He just wants to Save America Act passed. So I'm

2008
01:48:59.399 --> 01:49:02.520
looking at a confrontation coming here between the President and

2009
01:49:02.560 --> 01:49:03.319
these senators.

2010
01:49:03.760 --> 01:49:06.119
Well, God blessed Donald Trump for doing this, because it

2011
01:49:06.239 --> 01:49:08.640
really is about the consent of the governed. And what

2012
01:49:08.680 --> 01:49:12.600
has happened is the political elites because this is their nature,

2013
01:49:12.800 --> 01:49:15.680
their elites, and they believe they know better than the governed,

2014
01:49:16.159 --> 01:49:18.319
and the government needs to be told what to do.

2015
01:49:18.359 --> 01:49:20.800
So this idea of the consent of the government is

2016
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an anachronism to.

2017
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Them, right, I mean, they're out of touch. They're listening

2018
01:49:27.840 --> 01:49:31.199
to the other elites. They don't care about us, the

2019
01:49:31.239 --> 01:49:34.800
little people, the voters who had our demands. So we've

2020
01:49:34.800 --> 01:49:37.079
got to remind them who's in charge. It's we the people.

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Okay.

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So I think we've got to increase the pressure on

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these eggheads, these fools up there who think that they

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01:49:44.039 --> 01:49:47.079
can just lord over us. Know, they're representatives of the people.

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01:49:47.399 --> 01:49:50.479
It's we the people. So we've got to remind them

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of that.

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Bill Jeff Carreerer, the native New Orleans and Louisiana's favorite son,

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also his award winning program Jeff My Friend, Happy fourth

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of July, Happy two hundred and fiftieth birthday America.

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Right, Yes, indeed, it's going to be a great celebration. Bill,

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