The Bill Martinez Show 07 02 26

0:00 Are you ready, Yeah, Okay, let's do it. Bill Martinez Live a program about current events, our culture, our values, our politics, and our future. And now Bill Martinez. Well, happy fourth of July to America. Bill Martinez here just about six minutes after the top of the hour, and Mike O'Neil from Landmark Legal joins us. Now, Hey, Michael, Hey you nobuddy doing okay? Bill? Happy forth. Good to be with you. Yeah, always good to have you here. Let's talk Scota Son. Sure, absolutely well, yesterday was did not go down well as I'd predicted or as I thought. So I'll first to admit I was wrong. I wish I were I wish I had been right. Really unfortunate decision in the Trump versus Barbara, the birthright citizenship decision. I mean, we can break it down. I think the big takeaway here is that you had I mean, and there's there's been all kinds of spin in the last you know, twenty four hours or so about this decision. Some people are trying to characterize this as you know, some optimism and the fact that you had four of the justices recognized that this was that there wasn't maybe not a constitutional right.

1:08 There's some breakdowns along those lines. But I think the really big takeaway with Trump versus Barbara birthright citizenship is the fact that five of the Justices, and particularly disappointing with Justices Barrett and Chief Justice Roberts closing the door of Congress fixing these problems that are facing with us. And let me explain what I mean by that. Yeah, I'm glad. I'm glad because people immediately thought were Congress, this is Congress's job now. But you're saying that they kind of put a they put a padlock on it. Yeah. Yeah, there was a pathway that was opened for them to really volley the issue back to Congress, and the pathway is is laid out in Justice Kavanaugh's concurring opinion. Look, nobody was surprised with the fact that the Supreme Court struck down the Executive Order, the executive order really declaring children of illegal immigrants as not citizens. The executive Order really wasn't the ideal vehicle to bring this issue before the Supreme Court. And this is a guest, I'm Monday Morning quarterback in this, I'm not placing blame on President Trump because President Trump is doing what he can to try to solve a problem. He identifies a problem here, and he's trying to solve it with the tools at his disposal. And one of the tools at his disposal is the executive order power. Unfortunately, under our constitutional structure, an executive order doesn't hold a lot of water right.

2:21 So ideally, how this issue should be brought to the court, and I think maybe we can still try this is Congress can still try this is via a law. Is say, for example, Congress passes a law declaring birth tourism illegal, and then you say, does that law conflict with the Fourteenth Amendments citizenship clause as of right now? And this is the problem here because the Supreme Court ruled that there is a constitutional right enshrined within the citizenship clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to birthright citizenship, and that means territorial presence at the time of birth is enough to convey citizenship. That is a constitutional right enshrined in the Fourteenth Amendment. That means if you have a law that facially conflicts with that, i e. A law that says, well, a Chinese surrogates child or a Chinese billionaire sarrogate's child who's born in the United States is not a citizen.

3:15 That law is presumptively unconstitutional and it's an enormous bar to bring to the court. So you've really closed the door for Congress doing that because again, it's a recognition of a constitutional right. Now, I'm saying, tactically speaking, it would be really it would have been ideal for that process to have been occurred as a case of first impression. In other words, Congress passed this law, the law is dragged up to the Supreme Court, and before the Supreme Court issued this decision that they issued yesterday and Trump versus Barbara as in other words, a case of first impression, the Court has to say, Okay, we're going to try to determine whether this is consistent with the birthright citizenship clause. See what I'm saying here. Now, when you do it this via an executive order, nobody was surprised with that right that they were going to throw out the executive order.

3:55 And Justice Kavanaugh lays it out in his concurrence. He says, look, I would have declared the executive order illegal, but I would have not declared it unconstitutional. I would have held back on that. And that's something known as the canon of constitutional avoidance. And again, in so doing that, you would have allowed Congress to weigh in on this. Now you're kind of closing the door to Congress, and you're saying, this is a this is an enshrined constitutional right, not different, not really, kind of analogous. Again, it's a little rough, but it's kind of analogous. To encapsulate this and better illustrate it to the decision in Row versus Way. Right, there's a there's a recognition of a constitutional right to an abortion. Now again it's not it's distinguishable because there's not a textual hook with abortion. But you know, once the court recognizes this constitutional right i e. A right to an abortion, how do you get that? How do you how do you change that outcome? Well, you have to change it either in two ways. Number one a constitutional amendment or number two, a new Supreme Court opinion that overrules it i e. Adobts opinion that overrule that declares that overrules the president of versus Way. And we saw how long that took. So this is the journey before us. This is really this is unfortunate. The Court had a really clear pathway to making allowing the political branches to weigh in on this, and they closed that door.

5:12 And that's what's really disappointing. Bill. Why did they do that? Mike? I mean almost seems like that's the question. You know, it's just something because somehow, you know, some have suggested that that you know, Roberts specifically was nervous because you know, the Democrats have been talking about packing the court. Who that's someone I've wrestled with a little bit over the past. I was thinking about that this morning. Really why the operative court? You know, we can talk about the how and the effects and everything, it's why why did Justice Robert Chief Justice Roberts deviate from his modus operandi? And I've struggled with that answer. I mean, I think you can, you can. This is why I was. I was really confident in predicting that it was going to be this illegal but not nonconstitutional. They're going to hold back on the constitutional because Justice Roberts. Chief Justice Roberts has always operated from a position of judicial minimalism, right, and if there's a if there's an off ramp that he can take to volly the a legitimate off ramp that he can take to volly the issue back to the political branches, i e. Congress specifically, or at state legislatures, what have you. He was going to take that, and he's done that repeatedly, and I thought to myself that'd.

6:22 Be a except for Obamacare. Obamacare was another exception. Well, well, Obama, let me say Obamacare. He deferred to the legislature, right, he did. He was loath to overturn a piece of legislation that was this is this is actually works really to support my theory because he was deferring to Congress in this. He was trying to find a reason to preserve the legislation. So he was he was taking every step he could, including this wild step of finding the power of tax to declare this law constitutional, because he didn't want to override the power of Congress to pass a law. So that's kind of actually, I see what you're saying, but it's actually kind of consistent with what I was thinking, is that he understand stands the importance of Congress in our constitutional structure and doesn't want to close the door to them, and if they've done something, he wants to take every opportunity he can to validate what Congress has done. And so he's kind of he's kind of elevated. Congress not elevated, but he's recognized that under our traditional separation of powers and our constitutional structure, that really the Framers envisioned Congress as the most powerful branch. That all went out the window with this decision with Trump versus Barbara. And this is why I was so surprised with it and honestly disappointed, because I said to myself, you know, Okay, I get an executive order, bad, but you know, let Congress have a say in this before you, before you decide you're going to go down this constitutional road. Now you can not to get answer your question, Bill why, I mean, I don't really I'm loath to get into some of the theories I might have with it, but I don't want to.

7:51 I'm really not comfortable in opening up my personal theories on it. But I think I think he was just looking for a reason to get into this constitutional issue and come down on it. It's just disappointing. I have theories on it, I'm not really comfortable voicing them publicly on it, but I wish I wish he'd go one the other way, honestly, And I'm surprised. Well, it's amazing when you think about where we are on a national security issue, immigration, where it sits right now, that's happening on this you think, gosh, you know, birthright citizenship is just part of the problem. It's not the problem, but it contributes to the problem. Yeah, and this is here's here's the other problem with this decision too, is is it opened up again. This is not just similar to watch and versus r RNC.

8:39 It opens up a parade of horrible, possibly horrible, of thorny issues that we're now going to have to deal with. Okay, so let me let me throw a couple of things out. Well, how do you There's clearly there's some motivation here to reduce birthright citizenship. There's a political will to do this, right, Obviously, Donald Trump's the president. I states he was elected on an immigration platform, so there's a political will to address these issues. Well, okay, does the president now and I think he might have the statutory authority to require and again I don't feel comfortable with this. I'm just throwing this out there now, to require women who come into our country to take a birth to pass, to take up pregnancy test before they're allowed to come into our country. This report is sponsored by IBM. The Championships Wimbledon will run from Monday, the twenty ninth of June to Sunday, the twelfth of July twenty twenty six. Tech partner IBM brings new personalized fan focused features to the experience thanks to its powerful watsonex technology. The new Key Moments tool analyzes play to calculate each player's probability of victory. Enhanced Matchchat is an interactive match companion capable of conversational style AI responses to questions. To learn more, download the Wimbledon app or visit Wimbledon dot com.

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13:50 You know we're talking with them. Mica O'Neal from Landmark Legal, Michael, go ahead, I mean, you know you post something. You're exactly right. I mean we're gonna have to run pregnancy test. You know again, is there. Is is that gonna? I mean I kind of I kind of instinctively am like I don't like that. You know that there's an instinctive problem with that, but you know there's a recognized issue here. Well, what if we want to deter birth tourism? Okay? Well, what steps are we going to take that are consistent with this opinion to deter birth step birth birth tourism? Okay? And then again, if what if you do that? If well, are you going to have immigration officials turning away pregnant women or or trying to discern whether somebody who's coming across the border looks pregnant? And then you're saying, well, no, we don't we want to turn them away. I mean, think about that that's that's a bad that's a bad optic, that's not that's not necessarily good. So again my point here is what happens is when you close the door to the legitimate political process for solving problems that are facing Americans, then you open up another door to all of these dramatic, you know, assertions of power, and there's not the necessary constitutional structural release valve i e. The legitimate legal process, law making process to address some of these problems. Again, think about this. If you if you impose, if you decide you're gonna mandate a regulation or you're going to impose a regulation mandating pregnancy test, well, what's to prevent another country from doing that? From American women?

15:16 You know, Oh, I want to go over to America. I want to go over to a great Britain to do this, while do you have to have a pregnant I mean, that's then you get in this diplomatic tet a tench. It just becomes very messy, very quickly. So again it's a really it's it's just it's disappointing from the perspective of not surprising in the fact that they threw out the executive order, but disappointing and the fact that they close the door to the congressional process to this. So now the answer is, I guess in a bigger target is just amendment? Right? Well, yeah, I mean, I guess I was thinking this one. If we can talk up a little a little bit about politics with it, yeah, I mean, it's it's again, it's like a Row versus Wade kind of project thing you're talking about here. The lining, I guess if you will, is there. This might motivate the base, right, if we're going to talk about politics and electability and all that stuff.

16:07 You know, we know that immigration is a huge issue. We know that. And again I'm loath to use this word, but I mean, for the for everybody, judicial activism, everybody's very concerned with. These were the issues that brought Donald Trump to office in twenty sixteen. Right election, judicial, the Supreme Court ruling bad rulings from the Supreme Court, putting judges, justices and judges on the bench that are going to enforce you know, that are going to be consistent with conservative principles. Et cetera. So you know what moves people. We know what moves voters, immigration and judges. So I mean, hey, guess what I guess if there is a silver lining here in this is that it might motivate the Republican or the conservative base to go out and vote in the midterm elections, where here, too four they might have been a little satiated and say, okay, well we might hold back a little bit. It's a midterm election, et cetera. Exce, this might motivate people to get out there and try to do something. So I think that that could be a good a good outcome in this. I mean, obviously roe versus Wade motivated a lot of people for a lot of years. Now again I'm not I'm not saying this is abortion is important, and it's it's it's a different case.

17:11 But still there's a general principle that might be applicable. Here, right exactly. And of course, uh, you know, the people are speaking because uh, it's not like after after Dobbs abortion stopped, if anything, you know, because of the importivation fill pill. Uh it's uh, it's as robust as ever. Yeah, But I think what you want to ask yourself here and this is this is again just to go back to this point, is the the importance of preserving political solutions to problems facing Americans. That is what is necessary in our system of government, right you. You do not want to have the branches closing the door to Americans being able to effectuate change via the political process.

17:56 And this is a theme, right, This is why it's important to have integrity in our lifectoral system. So that's exactly the same. That if I don't like birth tourism, and again ninety nine percent of Americans, I would venture to say, don't think birth tourism is a good idea, that I can do something about it, and well, what can you do about it? Well, I tell you what you can do about it. You can elect somebody a representative or a senator who's going to go to Washington and is going to author or support a law that outlaws about birth tourism. So that means the political process is open for this. This is why our framers envisioned this. This is the system implemented, and this is why it's important to use that The court is you know, is minimalist. And this is generally this is how John Roberts operates. This is why my mind has kind of boggled that he closed the door. He generally recognizes this fundamental principle in our government and our in our republic. And yet they slam the door shut on this one. And this is and again, just to get touched on another one from the past couple of days, is Watson versus R and C. This is the one where they court upheld the Mississippi law permitting five postmark ballots to be received five days after election day. And this is another one where again, uh, you know, they upheld this law. And I say, okay, well, you've got to understand that these these are this is a bad law that undermines the integrity of the system, and that you should recognize that this is going to contribute to a loss of faith. And as just as the Leader acknowledges in his in his dissenting opinion in

19:26 this that this is a male voting is that process is inherently vulnerable to fraud and malfeasans and mischief, and that reasonable protections need to be implemented on this and that if you undermine the integrity of the system or the faith in the integrity of the system, you really undermine our government, and that you're closing the door. And I think this is really kind of what we're talking about here. They should be opening the doors to the political process. They shouldn't be closing the doors or undermining the faith that we have in this And this is. Which will exactly ate well when the political process is suspect, which it is right now clearly, I mean even to the point I mean still, Mike, over sixty percent of voters believe the twenty twenty election was uh was gudulent, right, And so.

20:10 You're operating in that in that environment already. And so therefore, what do you do You need to come back to this. You need to you need to take you need to take affirmative steps to restore faith, right, And so that means if you have an opportunity to restore faith in this, because again, what's the importance here the takeaway is preservation of our democracy and ensure ensure that people believe in our country and believe in America at our two hundred and fiftieth birthday and this miracle and this incredible gift we've been bestowed upon us. So yeah, if you lose faith in it, you will will wait wait a minute, we have this opportunity to restore faith to say, Okay, there's a there's this is this is a reason this the election day means election day. It means ballots received post election day are are not processed. It's not part of the process of electing. So that means you have to have your ballots in. So again, but let me let me backtrack here, back to my original kind of point about bringing these cases to the court. To the Supreme Court is and I think this is some wisdom that needs to be considered. Is the vehicle by which you bring these cases to the court. Again, it's it's it's easy for the court. It was easier for the Court to declare unconstitutional and executive order, a broad based executive order promulgated by Donald Trump. It's easy for the court to declare illegal or legal a law that says five days postmark ballot within five days. But it would be really hard for the court to make the court struggle with some thorny issues. Bring a lot on them and say, Okay, you're gonna say that it's legal for

21:41 Washington State to allow twenty one days to count their bouts. You're gonna say that's legal. Supreme Court, Really, okay, drag these drag these really hard issues to the Court and say, okay, let's see how you roll now when the rubber meets the road. Don't make it easy on them. And that's that's my take down going forward. It's like, let's bring these hard cases up to them, these strong facts, actual cases, and confront them with it. And again here's another one. Have Congress actually pass a law outlaw on birth tourism. Go ahead, do it well, understanding that it's probably going to be declared invalid, that it's going to be presumptively unconstitutional, all that stuff. Okay, guess what, or even have an executive order on it. Let's let's let's really make them say it and say, okay, Supreme Court, you're saying it's constitutional that a Chinese billionaire can have one hundred kids via surrogacy and that those kids are citizens, and that's consistent with the framers intent of the fourteenth Amendment. Make them answer that question. And that's my take right now.

22:32 Don't make it easy on them. Make it hard on them, and bring tough cases to them and make them declare certain, make them see if they're see how quick they are to rule against. I think generally what most of us believe in the will of the American people in these. Issues exactly well about a minute left here, what else I mean we hadn't. Yeah, yeah, I've been ranting and raving about all the bad news. Here, let's talk about there is some. Let's end on a positive note. Right, this is a and this is our celebration of our two hundred and fifty and the anniversary. Let's end it on a positive note. Trump versus Slaughter this is a win for separation of powers. I'm always talking about separation of powers and preservation of requisite branches of government. Trump versus Slaughter is really important.

23:13 This is a case that recognized that the executive authority is vested within the president the United States, and there can't be these bureaucrats or these political appointees from previous administrations languishing in these importantly powerful positions within Washington, DC's bureaucracy undermining the president's agenda from within. And now the president has there's a recognition again, which is the power has always been there. There was the aberration which was the Humphrey's Executor era, and that's been the past ninety years where the president couldn't fire these heads of these quasi independent agencies. Well, guess what, there's a there's a return to sanity, return to constitutional principles of separation of powers. The executive power is vested within the president if he wants, If he comes into office and he wants to fire the head of the ftc SE at will, then that's his presidential prerogative. So this is good news for separation of powers. It's a good news for really pulling a lot of the teeth out of the administrative state. Right, you don't have these bureaucrats that are working to undermine the duly elected president of the United States. So that's good.

24:15 Trump versus Slaughter is a win for our country. That was a big, huge win. A lot of people in the movement I work in and a lot of people I work with, have worked a lot of years on that case. So it's a really huge win for us, a huge win for democracy, a huge win for the separation of powers. Well, we got to leave it there. Happy forth in July, my friend, Thank you for a positive note. Take care, Yeah, take care of my friend. I'll see you next week. Streaming TV is where it's at. It's not about cutting the court anymore. That's old news. It's all about your customized TV options with the best and cheapest high speed Internet and your own TV subscriptions. We've got your dream TV lineup between wired and satellite internet and TV. You now have tons of options, save money and get more internet, speed, better TV today by calling the Whole Home Connect, we scan your location and offer you the best TV and Internet options, and we always have specials and promotions, so when you call ask about that. Take five minutes of your time. Make this free call now and learn how to save money and get better internet and TV for your home anywhere in the US.

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28:45 Yes, well, thank you so much. We we aimed to please, and we felt that a thirty years was time to revisit the issue in a special issue. So well, and like you said, it's you know, for people that you know think whenever you. Hear you know that one right here there. It is when you think about the illuminati and you know the roots of you know, the deep state, and really it just comes down to just comes down to who's who's got the money, right. Yeah, I mean certainly money is a large part of it. There there are other issues as well, but yeah, I mean, at some to some degree, I mean that the people who are the ultimate movers and shakers behind what we call the deep state, I think are perhaps maybe not a political but they're certainly driven by an ideology. I mean, they're not without ideology. They have goals, they have an ideology, the ideology of power. I suppose that motivates them. So I mean, and this accounts for their their zeal and their tenacity in trying to achieve those those goals, not just in a single country like the United States, but worldwide.

29:50 You know, it's interesting because Democrats are always accused of, you know, being so interested in power and control, you know, as Lindsey Graham would state it. But I got to tell you, the deep State make the Democrats look like, you know, their little pawns on a bigger chessboard. Well, sure, I mean the Democratic Party being I guess what would have once been called the court faction. You know, it's the party whose whose raizone deetra is to defend the status quo and to follow power wherever it leads. And you know, the Republicans, until recently have been primarily the loyal opposition, have a different, differentunct, so they're you know, the Democratic Party, certainly in the United States is more in sympathetic certainly to the aims of the globalists and the radical left and the other main factions within this this you know, the deep state, the conspiracy. That's that's trying to to radically overhaul the culture, government and you know, the totality of the United States and recondition it so that it will fit with a new world order. I mean, that's a term people hear, that conspirit. That's actually the term that they've used for centuries to describe this utopian project.

31:04 Yeah, because how many people are we talking you know, maybe a thousand or so elites I mean uber elites that are very private and secretive, that are the lever pullers, as you say, looking in terms of an ultimate goal of global control and power, right. I mean, it's I don't know how many there are. It's certainly a small minority of people, but actually there is a large I mean there there There are different layers to it is. There are a large number of people who are ideological supporters in varying degrees. And it's hard to know, you know, those who at the apex of the power of power, so to speak, how many they may actually be, But they're certainly found all over the world, you know, and and and speak different languages and at least professedly belong to different you know, religions and cultures in this kind of thing. But in their inner convictions. They are globalists, they don't they don't you know, those things are are just are just trappings. Are are you know, are our superficialities, so you know, and and many of them probably are not household names. I mean we tend to say, oh, well, this billionaire or that politician, those are those are the are the deep state, But a lot of them are people who are uh, you know, perhaps not so well known to the general public or not at all, who wild power and and you know, and characterizing it, I mean, I find the term deep state to be not misleading, but perhaps limiting, because it implies that at root this movement is is political and

32:41 and that's no more accurate than to say, well, it's just a bunch of you know, central bankers, you know. I mean, that's part of it too. But it's not purely about money either. At root, it is actually spiritual and the political and the financial and the cultural ramifications are are aspects of it. But but route I mean, there's there's a there's a power spiritual or dare I say, anti spiritual conviction among the people. And I mean one example of this, and this is not a contemporary figure, but someone who lived several hundred years ago. Is John D. Most people have no idea. I mentioned John D and one of my artor and most people have no idea who this guy John D was. Well, I'll tell you he was. He was a practitioner of black magic, including necromancy, which is where you try to raise the dead black black magic. He actually did this with a guy named or tried to. I don't know how successful he was, but he went into graveyards and tried to raise dead people and commune with spirits with an even more sinister character named Edward Kelly, who followed him around. He was fascinated with all aspects of the occult. You say, okay, well, he sounds like a really weird fringe character. Well. He was also a polymath at the apex of elizabethan England's not only academic but political scene. And he was a privy council to Queen Elizabeth the First. And he was the guy who is credited with thinking up the idea of the British Empire. It was his idea. He went to Elizabeth and said, you know, here's what we need to do to change the world. We need to take

34:14 all of these wonderful civilized laws and this whole system of British civilization, and we need to find a way to extend it worldwide, and we're going to do this by you know, uh. And he proposed this this project, and so you can find that in Wikipedia. That's actually not secret. Most people are just unaware of the fact that the guy who thunk up the British Empire, one of the most consequential events of the last thousand years, was this weirdoes. Yeah, so this kind of shows and and and and as his motivation to this, I don't think it was you know, petty partisan politics or whatever was the equivalent thereof back in Elizabethan, England. It was it was owing to his spiritual views and in his case and many others like him, people who inclined towards the occult, this idea and the perfectibility of man, this idea that we ourselves are capable of bringing about earthly paradise.

35:05 I mean that's certainly the motive. That's that's what socialism is in a fact. Right exactly. Yeah, Yeah, it's basically godless, I would think, even though they may claim some sort of you know, religious ideology, but it is you know, it seems to be humanistic more so. And as you mentioned, you know, they like not having their names and lights. They don't want to be noted figures, it would seem. Yeah, And I mean unlike in John D's day, where some of these these these are cult guys had sort of rock star status because that was the age when things like alchemy were very celebrated. Still your latter day John Dee's are not, you know, not the sort of people that most people are aware of. I mean probably the last such I would think would probably be probably Alistair Crowley, and he's of course been dead for a long time, but he was kind of a celebrated cultist and he was very influential politically too. He was he had his contacts in the highest, you know, corridors of power in both you know, Britain and the United States, and was highly and remains highly influential, I mean, certainly in the world of entertainment. It's it's hard to you know, to comb through much of the output of of Hollywood without coming up with references to Aleister Crowley and to his exactly his beliefs so called Thelma and everything else, his philosophy so you know, and then there are people like that today. Most of them are you know, are not not well. I'm not saying they're all occultists, like like Crowley, but I am saying that, you know, I mean, Adolf Hitler once made a comment about Nazism. He said, people that look at Nazism and I'm paraphrasing, but he said,

36:37 people who see Nazism as just a political movement don't understand what it's about. And in that he was telling the truth, right, because Nazism also originated as an occult movement. You know. The Tula Gazellschaft, which Hitler and all the inner circle of the Nazi belonged to, wasn't a cult organization, and it was derived from what we would now call the you know, the early New Age or you know, movement of the Theosophical Society, and you know Helena Plovotsky and any Bizant and all that crowd. You know. Again, these are not necessarily household names anymore unless people into the occult, you know, which I do not recommend, by the way. But the point being is that that again, Nazism, which was a terrible, enormously you know, uh, consequential part of you know, the globalism in the mid twentieth century, you know, and obviously rot Cheryl Havock was ultimately spiritual in nature. And this is this is the important thing to bear in mind. These people are you know, some of them. They may be atheistic, but they do have their their their philosophy and their goals and and and which animates them well.

37:45 And this is why they embraced, I believe, embraced in part Darwinism. You know so uh you know so uh how I want to say, you know so easily, let's put it that way. Yeah, out well, and many other things. It's one of the reasons for their tremendous patience. I mean, you want to say, well, you know, I I often hear the idea of conspiracy debunked on more or less at this base. Rush Limbaugh used to do this, used to say, well, you know, it's impossible to keep a conspiracy secret, you know, these people. And to an extent, he's right in the sense that if you look out, if you look at the evidence, it's not really that secret. You know, there are admissions against interest, you know. Obviously, Carol Quigley's book Tragedy and Hope is a really good example of that.

38:33 And and but there are others as well. I mean, if you can't read the writings of any of these prominent occult people from John D onward without coming into, you know, across references of a secret global elite brotherhood. They call it by different names, but they all have the same the same thing. They say, the world is secretly controlled by these people. And they're good, you know, because their aims are noble and all this, and they know each other and they speak differently, but you know, they all the same thing. Well, they're all just making this stuff up. Obviously, you know, the the the the skeptic is going to say, well, they're just all making up. But are they all making up the same story? You know? I mean, you know, the whole idea of so called esotericism is the idea of. This this this there's this this.

39:14 Group worldwide that has this has this power. I choose to believe it. I mean, I see enough evidence suggest that this that this is essentially a correct picture. We've got more from Steve Bonta from The New American after this, stay with us. Have you written a book or do you have a manuscript ready and just need to find the right publisher. Christian Faith Publishing supports authors like yourself to bring their books to life, and right now we're offering you a free writer's guide designed to steer you towards book completion. Christian Faith Publishing evaluates each manuscript we receive. If your book earns approval, we take care of everything editing, designing, printing, promotion, and widespread online and in store distribution. Picture your book grasing the shelves of specialty Christian bookstores, Amazon, Barnes and Noble, and numerous other retail destinations. It's time to get that manuscript published and to work with a publisher who shares your values of integrity and honesty. You can get your book published, get your manuscript reviewed, and a free writer's guide today.

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43:12 Thanks John, you heard it. Folks, take advantage of this opportunity and call now eight hundred eight three zero five zero five zero. Advertisement sponsored by Legal Health Center. May not be available in all states. Not available in California. Hey, welcome back. We're talking with Steve Bonta. He is the publisher for the New American magazine. When you look at the fruit on the tree, I mean the tree is going to bear a specific fruit based on its root system, and so it's quite telling. I mean you have to really just you know, purposely blind yourself, you know, to that reality to see these underpinnings that are going on and of course that are being manifest more and more in our country today. We're going to talk about that in just a moment. But to kind of wrap things up again, congratulations on this, uh, you know, on this publication and this special commandmentive magazine. Steve, how can people access it.

44:13 Well, it's a you can order it online to go to the New American dot com our website again here here it is again, yes, right, and all of its glory. You can you can order a palette if you want. We've got several palettes in our warehouse right now that are ready to be shipped at a moment's notice. But yeah, I'm we're very proud of this issue and it's selling very well, and we're hoping that it opens opens more eyes as to the the I mean, there are lots and lots of people Bill out there who are sympathetic in varying degrees to to the to the cause of freedom and limited government, all this stuff which is so important. But it's important, you know, to understand also from whence the opposition derives its vitality. You know, why is it that it's so hard to win this fight? Why is it that it always seems like two steps forward, three steps back? And the answer is because the enemy is organized, and no complete accounting of the freedom struggle is possible without acknowledging that, without saying, you know, understanding somewhat the nature of the enemy. Face.

45:19 Well, you're exactly right, I see the enemy working a lot harder. I mean, look at what's happening, you know, across our country with the Democratic Socialist I mean, they're out of the closet, full blown. I mean we've known this for a long time, you know, for decades that this was a you know, a growing organization, and now here they are. I mean, they've captured, you know, the mayor's seat in New York. You've got three candidates in New York heading you know, potentially to Congress, and they're very outspoken about their Democratic Socialistic not even leanings, but their commitment. Yeah. Absolutely, And I mean, I mean that's obviously. Socialism is the main kind of the public face of this of this this drive for for for for global control, and you know, this type of thing we call it socialism, but it's it's just the ideology of pure a moral, collectivized power. That's all it is. And everything that and again with and even with socialism, just just confining our our analysis. Socialist people often make the mistake of saying, well, socialism is basically this this political and economic theory, and it's not. If you look at the origins of socialism, you find that all of the you know, the people.

46:33 It was also a radical social experiment. I mean, all the first socialist communes were all into getting rid of marriage and the family and having you know, as they called it then and and now free love and all the rest of this. There's always been this counter cultural, moral or anti moral dimension of the thing we call socialism. So just looking at it as a like a politically a political partisan thing, or maybe an instance of extreme you know, but purely political zealotry is do you know, fails to capture the totality of what socialism is. And so there's nothing at all inconsistent about the fact that the same people who are espousing uh socialist you know, economic and political collectivism, are also a spouse, are trying to get rid of the family, are trying to destroy family values, are implacable foes of organized religions, particularly Christianity, all that kind of thing. It's all of a peace right.

47:30 And in all the years of human history, what success record can you point to and say, you see here during the Roman Empire, or you know, during you know another empire, it worked brilliantly, or you know the Russians handled it, or you know whatever. I mean, every time you look at socialism as a history element. You see mediocrity, you see devastation, human carnage. So here it is the strikeing to have it your way, like as if you're ordering up a hamburger. You end up in the process just you know, debilitating the social norms and the things that brought you to the dance, and you've just blown up the whole party.

48:15 Well, that's true, and I think that a lot of people on the left, at least the more intelligent ones, they know this. But they're motivated by a desire to destroy the existing order, and if that can be accomplished by socialism, then so be it. The I mean the whole The term radical comes from the word for root radics, right, and the idea is that the only thing that will suffice to bring about this aforementioned earthly paradise. You know, this this this this utopia that the human kind God listened to. Utopia. I have to say, uh, you know, you know, done by the hands of man, is the total uprooting of everything that went before. And of course is anyone who you know who knows anything about gardening.

49:02 If you pull a planet by its roots, you kill it. Yes, but that's what they want to do is to kill utterly. And if that means, you know, the death of billions of souls and the desolation spoken of by Tacitus, then so be it. As long as you know, we can emerge at the far end with something new, something radically new. We will finally have banished God and morality and all the other things that they consider to be the source of all of the ills and troubles on this earth, and will have created this new temporal paradise that will not be encumbered anymore by those things. People will to do what they want. That will be the whole of the law, as Aleister Crowley famously put it, you know, and that will suffice if and if to get from there, from here to there, we have to sacrifice most of humanity on a modern day you know, alter of Moloch, will so be it? Yeah, I mean, obviously you have to break a lot of eggs to make this particular omelet.

50:05 That's that's the reasoning. So I think you know a lot of them, you know, do know that theirs is a recipe for desolation and destruction. But that's what they want, you know, they say, some people just want to watch the world burn that's kind of become a bit of a of a punchline. But it's actually. True, right, that's what. And they're not satisfied with socialism. I mean, socialism is faced. It's the yellow brick road to communism, right, I mean, it's not a big leap once you once you become a socialist, you know, the transition to communism is you know, almost natural. Well, communism is is sort of a specialized form of socialism. Most communists will say, I mean, like the Chinese Communist Party, they anymore, they say, well, we're socialist, you know, I mean, socialism is the more correct term. Communism generally nowadays refers to a specific brand of socialism advocated by Karl Marx and that crowd, and a lot of people like the Fabian Socialists for example, really don't believe in that because they say, you know, this, this abrupt, violent revolutionary scheme that communism requires ain't gonna work. What we need to do is is is erect the house of socialist world order bit by bit, gradually, you know, basically, transform hearts and minds, and you know, if necessary, rule and ruin.

51:26 But you know what, but but more this more gradualist approach. And then the other problem, you know, and the reason that modern day Marxists oftentimes you know, reject you know, the communist recipe. Per says, they say, well, you know, the problem with communism is, you know, it only it only works if you have a large uneducated peasantry like they head in Russia or China. And that's why communism has never really taken root, you know, taken over in countries that have higher standards of living, in education and so forth and so on. So so there are you know, some differences in that, but you know, Marxism writ large certainly know, embraces all of the above. Well, you look at what happened with Germany. I mean, Germany was a pretty you know, intellectual, uh you know country at the time. Of course we're talking communism and we're talking fascism as opposed to communism. But uh, you know, any ism whatsoever, you know, that relies on a constituency that's been dumbed down and mediocritized. You could argue that our educational system has been very effective in doing that with this new generation.

52:29 Yeah. Well, I mean the thing is, again, if I were a new World order, right, I'd be looking at the Nazis and saying that's not the that's not what I want to do, because look, it didn't last very long, right, I mean, it was obviously a failure. They tried to do too much, too quickly, and so you know, it ended up coming a croppers of the rest of the world. We know what happened to Nazism. So so what they're what they're saying instead, is they say, well, let's how can we make this permanent? You know, how can we how can we ease humanity through this radical transition into a new, entirely new order and make sure that it sticks, you know, and make sure that we never return to a time of sovereign nations and you know, religious faith and all the you know, belief in a god that doesn't exist, you know, fairy tales and all this type of thing. Again, that's what they think. So you know, in their in their hidden conclaves and conferences and so forth.

53:24 I mean, I have no doubt this is the kind of thing that they're that they that they discuss, you know, very serious terms, is how do you bring this about and make it stick? See about thirty seconds left. What about the hope for America? I'm gonna let you wrap it up. Go ahead. Well, the hope for America resides in bringing these hidden things to light, and in also instilling in people and appreciation of the positive values of the founders. You know, the fact that that there is a God, that he has given to us unalienable rights that make us who we are, That the proper state of man in this world and universe is as a free moral agent, not a slave or a chattel, and everything that flows from that, and the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. So all of these things work together, and when we have enough people with that critical understanding, we're going to have a free country again, and the tide will turn well.

54:24 And here we are on the verge of celebrating two hundred and fifty years, and we have Europeans and people from around the world coming into our country and celebrating our country and helping us appreciate just how exceptional the United States of America is, right. Yeah, yeah, And good for them. Who would have thought the World Cup would be such a transformative political event, But hey, we'll take it. Yeah, absolutely, I'm with you. He's the publisher of the New American magazine Steve Bonta. Thank you, Steve, take care God bless Thanks Bill. Same to you. If you're sixty five or older and Medicare is your main source of insurance, pay closer to right now and listen for details on how you may save thousands of dollars on your healthcare costs. Did you know that Medicare can pay for things like gentle visits, home delivery of drugs, even a gym membership. Call us right now and learn how to unlock all your Medicare benefits. Medicare and supplemental plans that we provide can even offer you drug coverage with zero copays and pay for transportation to your doctors.

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56:05 Hey, good morning, welcome six minutes after the top of the are right now, Bill Martinez here with Maria Espinosa from the Remembrance Project. Maria, good to have you with us. Happy Fourth of July to you. Yes, thank you, Bill, it's good to be here. Thank you for inviting you. Well, you know, I want to talk about birthright citizenship and also talk about the Remembrance Project. I mean, this is something that you and your husband, your organization, you guys have been on this for how many years now, Maria. Sixteen years, sixteen years. Sixteen years, and this was all. In response to American citizens being killed by people who had come into our country illegally exactly.

56:47 And you know, this is not part of the plan of what we were supposed to be doing. And at the most I thought maybe two maybe three years, just to inform our legislators. But you know, it just happened. One evening we were watching the Evey News and saw a report about a Houston police officer being shot but illegal alien. The report talked about another case prior, another police officer that was killed by an illegal alien, and that the wife had brought a lawsuit and that actually that's what intrigued me because I have a I was a legal assistant for years, and during my research, I found out that it was over sanctuary city policies in Houston. Even back then, sixteen years ago, sanctuary city policies. Yeah, so this has been something that's been around for decades, sanctuary cities and protections of non citizens And what does it cost us many? How many lives? Do we have an estimate at all yet in terms of how many American citizens have been murdered at the hands And we're not even talking you know, rapes or robberies or anything like that. We're talking just homicides that have been perpetrated on American citizens.

58:00 Exactly one percent preventable and those people had a right to live and they should still be here with their families. We don't have a number on that bill. And it's very difficult, as you know, and that with the different ministrations. Also, you know, the century city jurisdictions do not collaborate with the federal government. They don't keep track. If they keep track, they're not sharing them. So, you know, under Obama became more difficult and the media outlets which we now are fake news. You know, back then we didn't think that way. They simply would not inform the public of the immigration status of the perpetrator. So we don't have that number for a solid number, but you can look in our website on in our Facebook page the Remembranceproject dot org of the banners that we have up, which very difficult again to keep up with because there are so many killings, especially now.

58:54 Well you know here you were as a legal assistant right previously, and so you are starting to interact and do some research and as you discover more and more of this, this had to be shocking for you, Like how could something really on its face so illegally be operating in a constitutional republic? Right and goodness, I come me off guard. Yeah, so at first it was absolutely shocking, and I mean it still is. You just can't get that out of your head. And all the families and reading memorial pages of the families, you know, the angel moms and dads where they're missing their children and they're putting ads in the paper on there should have been their sixteenth birthday, you know, things like that, And we had no idea that this was such a huge problem. We focused on simply in the city of Houston, and then Texas and then to other states, and we found that we needed to connect the dots for them. And that's why the Stolen Lives Quilt banners came to be, because we wanted people in Massachusetts to know what was going on in California and Texas, you know, and even within their own state, because we were losing our entire country, you know, one life at a time, exactly.

1:00:19 You brought the quilt up to tell our audience about the quilt for those that you know, maybe just hearing about it for the first time, because this is so special what you've done as a part of the remembrance project. Yes, it is a visual memorial for the victims, and we have their photo, their name, their age, a short bit of how they were killed, if it was a crash, it was they were stabbed to death, shot and also sometimes the family is able to, you know, if we reach them and if they contact us, to put a little information at the. Bottom, you know, dearly missed. You know, they have a pet name for them, you know, their classmates and things like that on the bottom, so that we really the public gets to know, yeah, this individual and what we're losing. So and that is on a polyessis of fabric. The individual Stone Lives quote banners are three feet tall by two feet wide, and at times we send them to if there's three victims on one, we send that to maybe a group in that state.

1:01:27 And I'm glad you brought that up, bill because we are gearing up to recognize the remembrance month in October and that was teed off from President Trump's proclamation of the National Dair. Remember it's back in October of twenty twenty, so you know, go to our website, everyone on our Facebook page at Stone Life's QLT and share those banners. Yeah. The thing that's amazing, though we don't have the numbers, The thing that I was able to find out, Maria, is that every state of the Union has experienced a homicide at the hands of an illegal migrant. And you think of the rippling effect, you say, oh, you know, and I get it. Some people say, well, that's just one person. No, it's not one person. It is a family is everything. It's the legacy of that family that's involved there, you know, and it just seems so calous because you know, These are the kind of comments you hear sometimes in congressional hearings that these discompassionate people think, you know, in order to justify the unjustifiable sanctuary cities, that they come up with these kind of you know, discompassionate statements.

1:02:41 Maria exactly. You know, they're illegal bill and basically unconstitutional because it places these illegal aliens above and they're untouchable, you know, in some of those crimes that they commit, they're allowed to just pass. And that's so wrong. And I think this when we first started, this was. So bewildering to me that I thought, you know, why if people are so strongly set on these century jurisdictions, then why don't they pay for that. If you are so set to protect and give illegal aliens protections and amnesty, well then they should support them. Maybe we should have an illegal alien tax. And if you voted for supporting these illegal aliens, which is aiding in the betting, then you get to pay for I mean it makes sense to me. I mean, how fast with those individuals change their minds about central courting policies.

1:03:40 That's like, so much of what operates in the government is that, and why we're at thirty nine trillion dollars in debt. O by the way, is because you have these interests groups who come in and they get their cause, and somehow, through wrangling and I think some political influence, they're able to tap into the treasury of the American people. And then here we are, whether it's abortion or sanctuary cities or things that we don't believe in. Uh, the American people have to have to unwittingly, you know, support their cause. Yes, And I'll give you an example. You know, I testified, gave public comment before the Harris County Commissioner's Corps and at that time, the judge there wanted to give at legal defense fund type for illegal aliens. In amount, I think it was like two and a quarter million dollars two and fifty thousand today, and this was five years ago. Today, bill they've received eight point three million, and there it's earmarked for another million this year. And especially after the drainage problems that we have after hurricanes in Houston, how many people were displaced and out of their homes. You know, we need that money to fix our roadways and our drainess system and help whoever else who are really truly in need and hardworking families who might be just down and out temporarily. So that gives you a picture. Two

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1:09:45 That's magavitamin dot com Nutrition. Four Patriots. We're talking with Murray Espinosa issues the co founder and national director of the Remembrance Project. All that we're talking about here, what it comes down to is one angel Mom said, is that you're putting illegals, illegals ahead of American citizens. How as that just and fair? It isn't. And that's the argument. You know it is not. And you know we had one legislator even state that, oh, it's just one person, it's just one little girl's life. Well, you wouldn't feel that way, missus legislator, if you were in this angel mom's shoes, and if it was your only child who was brutally stabbed to death by an illegal alien who shouldn't have been here and should have been in jail because he had a criminal record and where his own country would not even repatriot him exactly.

1:10:45 Well, and this is the thing, and these angel parents, moms and dads, they're the ones that are you know, not sleeping in the middle of the night, waking up in the middle of night in pain. Their heart is aching, and they probably you know, treasure of the moment of sleep to where their mind can be you know, kept away. But how do you do that? I mean, it's with them constantly. And then here it is. You know, we've got a Fourth of July holiday, two hundred and fiftieth all that America represents, and your child has been murdered by an illegal uh an illegal entrant into our country. And these parents are having to live with that and thinking, wait a minute, what, what's what's going on with my country that I cannot I cannot feel secure and safe exactly.

1:11:37 And you know, and many times these family members have health problems built from all the trauma and oh gosh, and heartbreak. I see it over and over, you know, and it's you know, very difficult for them. And you know, you're talking about it brings up, you know, feelings to your audience as well, and it's just you just can't imagine, you know, what they go through every day then to hear in the news on what's taking place in their country and hear their child lies six feet under while these politicians are feeling what I say, their campaign coffers with the money from all these open border pro amnesty companies, possibly while their child is six feet in America's coffins.

1:12:21 Yeah, you're exactly right, Maria, And you see this all plays into you know, whether we're talking sanctuary cities and of course the Supreme Court. Uh, I'm sure there's decision here this week on birthright citizenship. See, this is all part and parcel of the problem that we have here in the country. So what they have done, you know, to again consistent with what you're saying, is there disenfranchising America citizens and they're devaluing our citizenship. Mariah, absolutely, and look they roll this out a happy Birthday America way right. Oh, it just angers me to know and Bill, but we're focused and we're doing other things also. But yes, absolutely, there are things that we can do that are solutions, you know, and those have been those solutions to birthright citizenship. Number One, it has to be interpreted properly, and you know, I'm sure you know all this, But we can also give certificates of birth of an illegal alien child who was born here, you know, give you know, we're not saying they're not born of course, which I've heard some people say was outrageous, but we can give them a certificate of birth. But it but also we this proving no amnesty first of all, in birthright citizenship obviously is amnesty. So you know, I believe that we can retroactively roll back this birthright citizenship.

1:13:54 And look at third world countries are doing this. Why can't the Man States of America. People have to prove that their parents were citizens or at least one. Yeah, the will of the people has to be clearly you know, voted out and discerned. And of course then of course that brings other issues because we have the say back that needs to be passed so that we can secure elections, so that the consent of the governed is actually the consent of the governed, not the consent of the administrative state or these other NGOs that have an outside interest that is devaluing our citizenship. Maria, Oh, absolutely, there are things that can that should be done or should have already been done. I mean, you talk about the NGOs. Why are our tax dollars going to these non governmental organizations that are aiding and abetting illegal aliens? You know, why haven't we put a stop to all of that. I'm sure it's going to be in a lawsuit, but look, it's ruining our country.

1:14:52 It's destroying our country from within, and that's what we have to stop. And these people who employ illegal aliens as subcontractors or contractors, they have to be absolutely punished. And I would say, Bill, look, you know when Donald Trump was running for the presidency the second time, he campaigned on mass deportation, which is exactly what we hired him to do, right, So why is it that these illegal aliens are still here. They've been given their pink slip, They've been given the opportunity to have a free trip back home, a free flight with.

1:15:32 Money in their pockets. So now I believe those who have property here, who have owned a vehicle, I think we need to implement reco type laws and confiscate that property, sell it and repay the citizen taxpayer. That makes sense to me. No, I agree, because the citizens didn't We didn't have did we have a vote in this. I mean, arguably you could say we didn't because you know, unfortunately, the ballot box has been compromised for decades, not just in the twenty twenty election. This has been going on forever. In fact, you know, it was a bit disturbing for me when there was discussion about some fraud taking place in the twenty twenty election. You know, Democrats even proudly said, well, if the truth be known, JFK was. You know, we kind of manipulated things in Illinois, and that's how JFK got elected. Are you kidding me? I mean, so, so this is all acceptable parlance. This is all acceptable, you know, way to play the game in politics, right that you can cheat and stuff the ballot box as long as you know the ends justify the means as determined by you know, a small group of people and I and I say small small minded, because you have to be small minded to attack our constitution and to and to injure its foundation and in such a way that it compromises, you know, the strength and the reason that our constitution exists,

1:17:06 which is we the people. It's a government up for by we the people, not the administrative state, not political interests certainly not now. I mean here, you know, to your point earlier, Maria, look at all the outside money, the foreign money that's coming into our country. And it's not just absolutely it's not just the trillions of dollars that Trump has been you know, capturing for investment. We're talking about people who are coming in and subverting our young people. They have captured our institutions, whether it's education, the media, you know, right on down the line. Right exactly. You said a lot there. So I do want to say that, Look, there's a way to stop this corruption, and that is consequences built. And we have yet to put people in jail. Look at the j six or the January six people who were detained, and my opinion, unconstitutionally and illegally what they did to them is coming out, you know, is absolutely wrong. Who's going to pay for that bill?

1:18:06 No one. So what happens is they'll continue to do this. And also, and you're you hit the nail on my head over a dozen years ago. I would say probably fourteen years ago that I was at a conference and I say infiltrated. It was liberals who got together like care and environmentalists from California and others, very liberals and self proclaimed communists. You know, they talked about that there was something this was back in June, right before occupy, and they talked about that there was something going to take place that was nationwide and internationally supported, so outside money to subvert our governant to make it look like all these you know kind of tency and occupied were just popping up organically, and that's not at all what was taking place, you know, to us naively, we were just here raising our children and making sure that they did you know, did their homework and volunteering for PDA and all, and you know, making sure HOA is not in our case about our grass or something, you know, right. But yet all around us these people with nefarious ideas and to take down America, America, hating individuals and you know, sum are citizens here. Of course, they were planning, they were working, you know, to ruin

1:19:37 our wonderful life here and what we have as America. So I think people need to understand that too, and maybe some of us are seeing that and more and more with the news and the fake news and all, and you know, that's what we're up against. If we understand that there is an element out there that wants to destroy America. You will completely. Understand why some of this is taking place. And we wonder why our politicians, who many of them are in the pockets of some of these organizations or companies or packs. You know, that's what's going on here. But there are more of us, bill than there are of them. They might have the money, they've got the bucks, but you know we've got that.

1:20:17 We've got the numbers right exactly, and the numbers must come together in the name of freedom, for the cause of freedom, as we celebrate our two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of fourth of July. Maria Espinoza she's the co founder and National director of the Remembrance Project. The website they can go to Maria. Now Remembrance Project dot org. And I ask your listeners to please continue praying. We call ourselves a SAP travel for one reason. We can help you book a ticket asap. For those of you that don't know, that means as soon as possible. That means no wait time, you get through right away, no searching online. Our specialty is the lowest available fairs on the big name airline you know them.

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1:24:45 I am fantastic, Thanks for having me again, appreciate it. This is getting to be a fun annual experience for the two of us. I appreciate you, and I'm so grateful to see you, know, your talent and the gift that you give America in a space actually on this you know, celebratory event of two hundred and fiftieth years. I mean, did you ever think that you'd be doing this on such an iconic birthday? Absolutely not, would have never guessed it. But so happy and honored and excited to be a part of this, you know, to be there in d C on the West lawn of the Capitol hosting a Capitol fourth on the two fiftieth birthday celebration is something that I will remember for the rest of my life. And to be a part of this is incredible. We have such an incredible show planned for this year as always, We've got incredible artist Trace Atkins, Patti LaBelle Cool in the Gang, Chicago, Carly Pierce, Angel Blue, We've got Lauren Alred doing a beautiful song for us as we are. As for the first time we will be in at George Washington's Mount Vernon to have incredible firework show, and so this is gonna be absolutely spectacular and so excited to be part of it.

1:26:06 Well, of course, then we're going to enjoy in the background, Maestro check every conducting the National Symphony Orchestra as the fireworks are going off. That's always a highlight of the show. Right, it is always. It really just brings the whole show together. And the eighteen twelve overtures is incredible. And we have a we have a beautiful, incredible tribute that we plan to do three tributes. We've got Gary Sonize who's going to be doing our tribute to the Artemis two crew. We've got our Olympians and Paralympians, and as always we will be joined by men and women of our Armed forces and we will have a tribute to them as well. And so we we've got Pershing Zone, We've got you know, so many military bands that are gonna be with us. It's gonna be h it's gonna beautiful, it's gonna be incredible. Shows excited and so ready to get my butt to DC to.

1:27:03 So I bet I went a time for patriotism. I mean, it's always such a blessing, you know, for the audience. Plus you got our good friend Joe Montagna is going to be on stage. Two, right, Yeah, he's he's actually remote. He's going to be introducing the band Chicago as as perfect as he should be, you know, as a as A, as A, as A, as a young man from Chicago. He's going to introduce the band. Well. I had a fun time talking with with Lee Locknik and from Chicago because for many years in La I played their music. In fact, I reminded him, I said, you realize feeling stronger every day. I was the first person on the planet to play that song because our program director had brought, you know, a master of the song that he brought in from from Denver where they were doing the you know, doing the tracks for the new album, and he brought this forty five in. He says, hey, this is hot off the presses. It's Chicago new song.

1:28:01 And I told I told Lee, I said, I not only played it once, I played it back to back. Oh that's cool, that's very cool. Yes, so great, so great memories. But yes, I mean the talent that is there that on display for this July fourth, two hundred and fiftieth weekend celebration. I mean, the team puts together every year such outstanding talent, So it's just got to be fun for you to kind of, you know, in a sense, MC and orchestrate all this talent, right. It's it feels incredible when you recognize that, you know, you've got all of these incredible people and I'm standing there, you know, moving the show and getting to introduce all of them. It is it is an honor beyond honors.

1:28:47 Well, and you say one of the highlights the art of his two crew boy talk about capturing the imaginations of America. Huh, yeah, I mean it's pretty special to think that we're now, after this many years, going back up to the Moon and to have you know, to navigate the Moon and come on back is very special. And to think that this is just the beginning of this next chapter of space journey. These astronauts deserve such love and praise and honor, and we will be doing that on July third. Yeah, it really points to again the exceptionalism of America.

1:29:29 And what better time than our two hundred and fiftieth birthday celebration and also, I don't know how funds, so if you're aware, But I mean they've got a very aggressive two three year plan. I mean, you know, we know that space travel was kind of intermittent there for a while, but they've hit the ground running and they've got exciting plans over the next couple of years. So I say, put on your seat belts and get ready. Yep, we're all going. We're all going for a beautiful ride. Yeah, well, there it is. So every year when you do this, what kind of planning, you know, as you as you put this together, and like you said, you're you're eagerly and waiting and excited to go to d C.

1:30:09 You know, what do you do to you know, plan and get ready for this event? You know, there's there's not a lot to do on my part in terms of you know, until I get the script. You know, it's it's the script is everything for me. I just got it. So my work really starts now, uh, to really get into it and get you know, to learn it and and know all the nuances and in and outs and and so I will start that work, you know, later on today and definitely on the plane ride going. But then yeah, we we get there and we hit the ground running. We do address rehearsal on the second and we're alive on the third, so it's a it's a quick turnaround, but we get going and we get going fast.

1:30:54 Well, you know, uh talk about the specialness of you know, our patriot has being on display, and I believe that America is hungry for this display every year, but especially this year, don't. You think, Yeah, Well, you know, I think definitely. Right now, we we all need to laugh a little, we need to you know, love a little, We need to come together a bit more. And this is a good time to be making that change. And the two fiftieth is an opportunity for all Americans to find a way to find common ground with one another. And I'm excited to see how that all plays out over the next you know, you know a few months, you.

1:31:38 Know, Alfonso, when you think about this rich history of this great country of ours, this American idea that we're celebrating, I mean, what other country. I mean, We've been so blessed to experience this, and you know, the kind of innovation, the creativity, the freedom that's been exercised because you know, the cherry on top of all this, you know, really is the freedom of the individual, a chance, a real chance to become the best version of yourself. I don't know what other country you could go to to possibly, you know, you know, like with your background and all that you've done, I mean, where else could you have exercised the giftings and talents that God's blessed you with.

1:32:21 Well, I personally like the thing, I could exercise it everywhere, But so you never know how that ever plays out. But at the end of the day, we are all blessed that we get to be in this with one another. And you know, it's it's always about, you know, looking at truths, looking at realities, looking at what we want it to be. And you know, when you have a dream, dreams are not just you know, make believe dreams are opportunities to create. And we all have a dream to to make this country uh what we want it to be, in a better place and in a greater place. And and even when you are I say this to my kids all the time when they're playing sports, even when you're winning, it doesn't mean you're still you're doing everything you can, So keep doing all that you can. And Cane continue to win, win by more if that's what you need to do to be your very best. And so my idea is that we continue to strive to even be better. Even if we are in the lead, we can still be better.

1:33:24 Amen, alfonzer Rivero, thank you again for you know, coming on the show and telling us all about this epic event. Remind everybody how they can connect and see it on public's TV stations nationwide. Well, you can go to PBS obviously, go to PBF dot org and you can find where we are and your local listings. But know that we will be on in July third, and in some places it will be July fourth, But there's encore performances of it, and so check us out. Enjoy. This is going to be the beginning of the two hundred and fiftieth Birthday celebration, and A Capital fourth is the best way to start it. Well, make sure you tune in and join Alfonso Rivero and a cast of incredible talent on July the third for a Capitol fourth, two hundred and fiftieth weekend celebration live from the US Capitol Building, kicking off America's historic birthday party. Alfonso, thank you for being with us. Happy fourth of July, my friend.

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1:38:35 Bill? Thanks for having me. Well, I'm on medication after the Scotis rulings, well some of them anyway. I mean, you know, hey, it's like what Scotus gives, it takes away. It's almost like, uh, you know, Justice Roberts wanted to somehow play nice, play down the middle, and you know, give some to Trump, give some to the Democrats. You know, he just seems to be such a political he can help himself. Well we knew that after Obamacare, and he worked hard to try to figure out a way to save Obamacare. And ever since then, I mean, I've just looked at him as being a very political justice and a very weak Republican. And you know, so many of the Republican justices for the Supreme Court have been disappointments. I mean you go back to David Souter, Sandersie O'Connor, Kennedy, obviously Roberts, and now you know you can add Amy Cony Barrett to that big time.

1:39:34 Yeah, it's amazing. By contrast, I mean, the Democrats are up at arms, but you know, you get the three Democrat appointed judges and they're consistent, i mean almost one hundred percent, Jeff, that they've stayed, you know, stayed on the left. You know, it's like, well, that's not by accident, rights by design, that's who they are. So we've got a problem with how we vet these judges, and we're not doing a very good job. President Trump has not gotten good advice, and you know, the only consistent one that he has is Gorsic. You know, Kavanaugh is better than Amy Cony Barrett, and Amy County Barrett's just like an alcolite of John Roberts. It seems to me, well exactly, well, I think they're too close to uh to d C. You need to get them out of there because everything, all the pressure there on them. You know, we talk about kiddingly, but it's true, the influence of the DC Beltway cocktail party circuit, you know, and you know, where can they go outside of their homes or outside of the Supreme Court and be welcome there? And you know, and that's that's a lot of a lot of pressure in that in that community that votes ninety six percent Democrat exactly.

1:40:45 I mean, they go to the cocktail parties, they talk to their friends, they're in that little bubble and you're one hundred percent right. And so we had decisions that allow now ballots to be counted after election day, which is ridiculous, and we allow people to come here from all over the world illegally have their babies here and these are going to be US citizens. I mean right again, knowing the country and the world is doing that. We're getting other countries have gotten away from mail in balloting, so we now are stuck with this due to these Supreme Court decisions. Yeah, they affirmed a cottage industry of you know, birthright, birthism, right right, you know, citizen you know, birthism, and here it is. I mean, this has been a growing problem on top of the problem we already have with illegal immigration, Jeff.

1:41:36 When you've got an administration says, look at we've got to clean this up, you know, whether it's voter rolls or illegal immigrants and that sort of thing. A temporary protective status for you know, people who've come to the country because their countries were in peril. But you know, temporary is temporary. I mean, I mean some of these people have been here for over twenty years, Jeff. It's amazing, I know, and they've got to go. I mean, the American people want to to go. So at least that was a decision that was a good win, ending TPS for Haitians and Syrians who had been here for years and years and years. So, yeah, the Supreme Court gave us some singles, some doubles, but they gave the left some home runs. I mean, I don't know anything bigger than birthright citizenship and these mail and balance those are huge losses.

1:42:22 Well, this is again why the Save Act needs to be passed. It's also why Congress needs to get off its back in and do some work on these issues that Trump has been pointing out. You know, we talk about in terms of them being eight to twenty issues, but when it gets the Supreme Court, you're rolling the dice. And this is what we saw today and in this last session of the Supreme Court. And you know, we need Congress to do their job and pass these laws. And if we need to go so far regarding the fourteenth Amendment, you know, we need to have a change to the Constitution, and the people need to get involved and chime in and have this national debate and understand what birthright citizenship is all about and what the fourteenth Amendment originally was about.

1:43:05 Jeff Right, and it wasn't about what's going on today, which is a perversion of what the original intent was. And you know, I thought some of these conservative justices were originalists. They try to get into the mind if the original framers of either the Constitution or these amendments and obviously they're not. They're political animals, and as you say, they're influenced too much by this liberal environment that they're in d C. So the job of US, I guess, is to put pressure on this Senate to do something. And the problem is that they're not listening to the people and once again they're ignoring the will of the voters.

1:43:45 We elected Donald Trump to do these things. He's trying to do them. Yet they're putting roadblocks. In the way right exactly because they don't really take the vote of the people seriously. They see Donald Trump as being elected as another anomaly. It wasn't you know. The people really didn't mean that they wanted to take care of immigration. They really didn't mean that they wanted this administration to do something about fraud. They you know, they really didn't care about national security. I mean that's just yeah, you know, it's okay to have a terrorist regime, have a nuclear weapon. I mean, you know, right, Yeah, they obviously are are ignoring the will of the people. And what you just said, everything from Iran to the border are things Trump has consistently said throughout his career as a politician. We voted for him three times and you know he's back in now and he's having the same roadblocks he had in the first term. You know, the Congress is not doing what they should be doing. And sadly, after the first two years, we had a midterm where the Democrats won seats.

1:44:52 And that's what I'm worried about happening here. We can't allow these Democrats to gain control of Congress because that would be a. Well, especially where they are now. I mean, they are out of their minds. You know, you and I had this conversation I think four years ago, maybe longer, Jeff, because I had predicted that the Democrats were so lost that they were going to unravel. Unfortunately, they fixed the election of twenty twenty and Joe Biden got in and it stayed their execution. Now they're just shooting themselves in the foot, you know, with this movement and the takeover by these socialists that have hijacked their party. I mean, you know, they're totally out of the closet. I mean, we've known this for years, you know, back to the Obama years. We knew when Barack Obama called about the called for the fundamental transformation of our country, it wasn't anything that was going to be constitutional by no means.

1:45:46 And just remember I mean Bill back in the in the nineties, I mean we had Bill Clinton who was talking about the era of big government is over, welfare reform, capital gains, tax cuts, He created a surplus with the new gingrich working together balance the budget. I mean, so we've gone from that to where we are today. I mean, that's a major shift to the left among the Democratic Party. Yeah, thirty nine trillion dollars in counting in debt, Jeff. Right, And back then we had a surplus. I mean it's just and just from two thousand and eight to today, we've quadrupled the national debt and we're knocking on the door of forty trillion. And nobody seems to be concerned about that bill. They don't seem to be doing anything about it.

1:46:30 Well, and the thing, Jeff, you know, these young kids that are upset about, you know, capitalism because of what, you know, what they're seeing, what they're realizing. You know, I keep telling people, I go, look at it's you know, correct observation, wrong conclusion. Socialism is not the answer. That is the nightmare that has been realized, you know, over the history of mankind, shared misery, humanity, the carnage that has taken place under socialism. You know you want that coming to America, are you real? Okay? But I get it. I understand your pain. You were told that if you went to college and got one hundred thousand dollars of tuition debt, that all would be hunky dory, be okay.

1:47:13 But the system, the infrastructure of this capitalism system has been compromised in such a way that has put all that in jeopardy. It's made affordability an issue that was in large part you know, yes, you can say, well, it's been a little bit of both sides, but primarily the Democrats are the ones that have driven with regulations and other political favoring that they've done to create this lack of affordability and housing and jobs. Well, Bill, I just give you to examples. New York, I mean, a perfect example of socialism. People are fleeing New York City they can't afford it. The state is collapsing. Florida, a state where you have a red state, where you have a governor that's implementing tax cuts, balancing the budget.

1:47:58 The state is boom. They now have many more citizens in New York. So that gives you an example of how socialism fails, how conservatism works when implemented correctly. That's exactly what Florida is doing and that should be a model for all of our states. Yeah. The other thing, Florida can count their votes in the same day of voting. California is still counting their votes, right. I mean, which makes this whole thing ridiculous. I mean, Bill, we got to get back to an election day. We can't do an election season. Okay, election day is election day. The winner's got to be known on election day. All of this other stuff is corrupt. It's just corrupt, and people lose faith in the electoral system because of it.

1:48:41 And it's a crisis. So that's why the Senate has got to do something. I mean, but they seem to be unwilling to take action. So the President is now saying he's not going to sign anything. He doesn't care about the housing bill, he doesn't care about anything else. He just wants to Save America Act passed. So I'm looking at a confrontation coming here between the President and these senators. Well, God blessed Donald Trump for doing this, because it really is about the consent of the governed. And what has happened is the political elites because this is their nature, their elites, and they believe they know better than the governed, and the government needs to be told what to do. So this idea of the consent of the government is an anachronism to.

1:49:22 Them, right, I mean, they're out of touch. They're listening to the other elites. They don't care about us, the little people, the voters who had our demands. So we've got to remind them who's in charge. It's we the people. Okay. So I think we've got to increase the pressure on these eggheads, these fools up there who think that they can just lord over us. Know, they're representatives of the people. It's we the people. So we've got to remind them of that. Bill Jeff Carreerer, the native New Orleans and Louisiana's favorite son, also his award winning program Jeff My Friend, Happy fourth of July, Happy two hundred and fiftieth birthday America.

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