While China, Iran, Russia, And Our Enemies Are Rising, Where’s America?

WEBVTT

1
00:00:13.000 --> 00:00:16.280
The topics and opinions expressed in the
following show are solely those of the hosts

2
00:00:16.280 --> 00:00:18.960
and their guests, and not those
of W FORCY Radio. It's employees are

3
00:00:19.000 --> 00:00:23.000
affiliates. We make no recommendations or
endorsements for radio show, program services,

4
00:00:23.079 --> 00:00:26.519
or products mentioned on air or on
our web. No liability, explicit or

5
00:00:26.559 --> 00:00:30.359
implied shall be extended to W FORCY
Radio or its employees are affiliates. Any

6
00:00:30.399 --> 00:00:33.840
questions or comments should be directed to
those show hosts. Thank you for choosing

7
00:00:34.000 --> 00:00:52.679
W FORCY Radio. Hey, welcome, Good to have you with us.

8
00:00:52.679 --> 00:00:55.759
Bill Martin is here. For more
information on the show, you can check

9
00:00:55.799 --> 00:00:59.799
it out Bill Martinez Show dot com. Our guest today is doctor Michael Rubin,

10
00:01:00.159 --> 00:01:03.439
the nineteen forty five contributing editor,
a senior Fellow at the American Enterprise

11
00:01:03.480 --> 00:01:07.920
Institute, and former Pentagon official.
Michael, Welcome to the show. Good

12
00:01:07.920 --> 00:01:10.400
to have you with us. Hey, thanks for having me Bill. It's

13
00:01:10.439 --> 00:01:14.000
pleasure to see you. Well.
You know, I tell you I always

14
00:01:14.040 --> 00:01:17.719
love it when you're on because you
and I get an opportunity to talk about

15
00:01:17.760 --> 00:01:25.239
the emerging threats around the world and
where America's position is in defending set threats.

16
00:01:25.799 --> 00:01:27.599
You know, whether it's China,
Iran, Russia. You know,

17
00:01:27.640 --> 00:01:33.599
we got the Middle East boiling up. Our enemies are rising, and we

18
00:01:33.640 --> 00:01:38.079
wonder what's happening with you know,
Secretary Blincoln and the defense of our country

19
00:01:38.079 --> 00:01:42.519
and our interests. Absolutely, I
hate to say it, but there's absolutely

20
00:01:42.560 --> 00:01:47.599
no shortage of threats. And the
less we focus, the more they grow.

21
00:01:48.040 --> 00:01:53.359
Wishing these threats away simply doesn't through
the trick well. And it seems,

22
00:01:53.840 --> 00:01:57.359
you know, beyond, it's like
we're not doing anything to fortify our

23
00:01:57.400 --> 00:02:02.879
own you know, dare I say
military infrastructure when you have generals saying,

24
00:02:04.000 --> 00:02:07.799
oh no, we're not into the
woke stuff. But yet what we get

25
00:02:07.840 --> 00:02:12.840
back from you know, the soldiers
themselves, is that they have to be

26
00:02:13.080 --> 00:02:16.800
sensitive to diversity. I mean,
what happened to the military. It's lost

27
00:02:16.840 --> 00:02:22.919
its sense of mission and objective.
I believe it really is a tragedy because

28
00:02:22.919 --> 00:02:29.560
the military was for so long,
for decades, the one institution that had

29
00:02:29.879 --> 00:02:37.599
overwhelming favorability ratings. Americans of all
stripes respected it, and it assiduously stayed

30
00:02:37.719 --> 00:02:44.039
out of politics, whether among Democrats, whether among Republicans. This tendency of

31
00:02:44.439 --> 00:02:51.360
letters signing by former generals or admirals
to all sorts of things using the military

32
00:02:51.360 --> 00:02:57.919
as an engine for social engineering.
It really has ramifications far beyond what so

33
00:02:57.960 --> 00:03:00.960
many people may believe. Well,
it appears, you know, to your

34
00:03:01.000 --> 00:03:06.439
point here, Michael, that it's
gotten it's lost its direction, and is

35
00:03:06.479 --> 00:03:10.120
out of its lane instead of focusing
on why we have a military to begin

36
00:03:10.159 --> 00:03:15.879
with. I think you're absolutely right
with regard to that. I mean,

37
00:03:15.879 --> 00:03:19.439
the fact of the matter is the
threats we now face are grave and growing.

38
00:03:20.199 --> 00:03:23.240
Everyone can sense that. And sometimes
I think, and I say this

39
00:03:23.280 --> 00:03:27.800
as someone who worked in the Pentagon
at the beginning of the Iraq War,

40
00:03:27.840 --> 00:03:35.639
and there are parallels to what's going
on now. Oftentimes defense industry specialists politicians

41
00:03:36.039 --> 00:03:40.360
want to focus on the Manu Shi
and debate that endlessly so that they can

42
00:03:40.479 --> 00:03:45.680
both feel that they're doing something and
at the same time have an excuse to

43
00:03:45.719 --> 00:03:50.400
avoid the big picture items, which
are the elephants in the room. Michael,

44
00:03:50.439 --> 00:03:53.439
How do we address this? I
mean, it almost seems like the

45
00:03:53.439 --> 00:03:58.840
military industrial complex, which Eisenhower warned
us about, has gotten so massive that

46
00:03:59.000 --> 00:04:01.719
it's like, you know, trying
to turn a boat in a bathtub here.

47
00:04:01.719 --> 00:04:05.560
I mean, they're just it just
seems so impossible. Well, on

48
00:04:05.560 --> 00:04:10.719
one hand, you're absolutely right when
you talk about Eisenhower in that way.

49
00:04:10.719 --> 00:04:15.280
But wasn't it also Eisenhower said the
buck stops here, and or was that

50
00:04:15.360 --> 00:04:21.040
Truman? No Truman? Okay,
my apologies. The point is, however,

51
00:04:21.439 --> 00:04:28.680
that leadership actually matters. Truman had
it, Eisenhower had it. But

52
00:04:28.759 --> 00:04:31.800
the fact of the matter is,
we're now going back several administrations where it

53
00:04:31.839 --> 00:04:36.680
doesn't seem that we have leadership.
And I'm talking about a leadership that's willing

54
00:04:36.720 --> 00:04:43.600
to put the national good above short
term partisan game. On the diplomatic front

55
00:04:43.639 --> 00:04:47.839
as well as the political front.
We have so many people who are fantastic

56
00:04:48.040 --> 00:04:54.240
at counting trees, but no one's
willing to identify the forest, and that

57
00:04:54.360 --> 00:04:58.879
farrest booming right now. As you
said in the intro bill, it's Russia,

58
00:04:59.000 --> 00:05:01.720
it's Iran, it's China, and
you can add a whole host of

59
00:05:01.800 --> 00:05:08.199
other threats to that, and we're
just twiddling our thumbs. Michael. You

60
00:05:08.240 --> 00:05:14.079
know what you're suggesting here is when
you call out these leaders that stood out

61
00:05:14.160 --> 00:05:16.639
and come top of mind. I
would even add JFK to it, only

62
00:05:16.639 --> 00:05:19.800
in as much as that he had
a sense of vision and purpose, and

63
00:05:19.879 --> 00:05:24.839
he cast that vision out to the
American people and they rallied around it,

64
00:05:24.879 --> 00:05:28.040
and look at what Look what happened. We got into the space race,

65
00:05:28.120 --> 00:05:31.759
and in short order, even faster
than expected, we were able to accomplish

66
00:05:31.839 --> 00:05:35.360
our goals. And I see that, in a sense, is what we're

67
00:05:35.399 --> 00:05:41.800
missing, is that sense of vision
and mission that the American people can get

68
00:05:41.800 --> 00:05:46.079
behind. Well, I think you're
absolutely right on that. Leadership matters.

69
00:05:46.160 --> 00:05:50.639
Look, I'm from Philadelphia originally,
and when I go to visit my family,

70
00:05:50.759 --> 00:05:56.040
I have to drive up nine five
right over that portion of I ninety

71
00:05:56.040 --> 00:05:59.560
five which collapsed last month. Now
I was going to say, you got

72
00:05:59.560 --> 00:06:01.639
to take a little detour, now
go ahead, Well, actually you don't.

73
00:06:01.759 --> 00:06:06.560
That's the interesting thing. The first
estimates was that it would take months

74
00:06:06.600 --> 00:06:12.839
to fix, if not years,
and yet the governor, the city of

75
00:06:12.839 --> 00:06:17.120
Philadelphia managed to fix things in about
two weeks. The point of that is,

76
00:06:17.160 --> 00:06:20.160
and this is what gives me hope. On a temporary basis in Midley,

77
00:06:20.199 --> 00:06:25.560
but the traffic is flowing that if
there's a will, there's a way.

78
00:06:25.600 --> 00:06:29.279
The question then becomes, in terms
of leadership, how can we stop

79
00:06:29.360 --> 00:06:33.240
bickering with each other to realize that
what may be an irritant, which we're

80
00:06:33.279 --> 00:06:39.600
amplifying into some sort of mountain,
is really just an irritant, and that

81
00:06:39.639 --> 00:06:45.199
the mountains, the storms on the
horizon are again threats to the entire American

82
00:06:45.240 --> 00:06:50.680
Republic, which Republicans, Democrats and
everyone in between should have a national interest

83
00:06:50.720 --> 00:06:57.639
in rallying to push back, Sorry, Bill, for what it is to

84
00:06:57.680 --> 00:07:00.839
be an American and what makes us
special at home and on the world stage.

85
00:07:01.120 --> 00:07:08.160
And unfortunately we become true provincial people
simply don't have the experience outside the

86
00:07:08.199 --> 00:07:13.199
country to realize just how special the
United States is. But you bring up

87
00:07:13.199 --> 00:07:16.000
an excellent point here. I mean, I'm embarrassed. I didn't know that

88
00:07:16.040 --> 00:07:19.839
I ninety five had been fixed,
even temporarily. I still envisioned, you

89
00:07:19.839 --> 00:07:23.240
know, like you said, they
said it could be up to a year

90
00:07:23.600 --> 00:07:26.160
that people are going to have to
go on this radical detour. But again,

91
00:07:26.199 --> 00:07:29.360
it speaks of our industry, doesn't
it, and the passion and the

92
00:07:29.480 --> 00:07:34.279
can do spirit that we have that's
so inherent to you to our DNA.

93
00:07:34.720 --> 00:07:40.439
I absolutely agree with that. Unfortunately, it also speaks to if you owe

94
00:07:40.439 --> 00:07:46.480
the commentariat class to especially the mainstream
media bill where we're all happy to highlight

95
00:07:46.519 --> 00:07:51.360
the problems, but we don't highlight
the examples when things work. I mean,

96
00:07:51.399 --> 00:07:56.199
you can take this with regard to
what happened in Philadelphia, which normally

97
00:07:56.279 --> 00:08:00.959
is a dysfunctional city, and Pennsylvania
normally is its functional state, and yet

98
00:08:00.959 --> 00:08:03.560
they managed to bring it together.
Why aren't we focusing on the lessons of

99
00:08:03.600 --> 00:08:07.079
how they did that? When it
SuDS to race, for example, why

100
00:08:07.120 --> 00:08:13.920
aren't we focusing on people like Clarence
Thomas or Condoleeza Rice and the people who

101
00:08:13.480 --> 00:08:22.360
made it rather than cascading an entire
I mean race of people, ethnicity as

102
00:08:22.439 --> 00:08:26.000
saying because of the accident of your
birth, you're it's impossible for you to

103
00:08:26.040 --> 00:08:31.079
be able to succeed. The fact
of the matter is examples of the American

104
00:08:31.160 --> 00:08:35.919
dream are out there that those are
the people to whom we should who we

105
00:08:35.919 --> 00:08:41.480
should embrace, who we should transform
into heroes rather than give an excuse to

106
00:08:41.200 --> 00:08:46.559
I mean, if you will kneecap, that can do spirit exactly well.

107
00:08:46.559 --> 00:08:52.200
And the thing is, you know
the recent decision by Scotus on affirmative action

108
00:08:52.559 --> 00:08:56.559
again that brings back into focus your
very point here Michael is that it's about

109
00:08:56.720 --> 00:09:01.720
merit. Maybe we're just getting to
that point now where we've had enough of

110
00:09:01.759 --> 00:09:07.320
this race baiting and this industrial racial
complex that has you know, overrun our

111
00:09:09.159 --> 00:09:13.159
cities, even our own psychology,
to say, look at you know,

112
00:09:13.480 --> 00:09:16.519
if it's as bad as you're saying
that it is, I'm seeing a lot

113
00:09:16.559 --> 00:09:22.039
of people of color, you know, brown and black being very successful and

114
00:09:22.159 --> 00:09:26.919
without exception. What made him successful
They worked their butts off, They worked

115
00:09:26.960 --> 00:09:31.360
hard, they were dedicated, they
were honest people, and they're successful.

116
00:09:31.600 --> 00:09:35.200
Boy, I'll tell you you know, to me, that's an American tradition.

117
00:09:35.320 --> 00:09:37.919
Well, I mean, this is
certainly something that you see when it

118
00:09:37.960 --> 00:09:46.240
comes to, for example, immigrants
from Nigeria who are extremely overrepresented in academ

119
00:09:46.320 --> 00:09:54.879
in medicine, in our military simply
because of the culture of family, of

120
00:09:54.080 --> 00:10:01.039
working together, of that can do
spirit as opposed to making excuses based on

121
00:10:01.080 --> 00:10:05.639
the color of their skin because the
color of their skin I'm sorry, is

122
00:10:05.679 --> 00:10:09.919
black, and they succeed because of
the kind I mean, It's what Martin

123
00:10:09.000 --> 00:10:13.440
Luther King Junior said, it's the
content of the character, not the color

124
00:10:13.480 --> 00:10:16.159
of the skin. Yeah, exactly
got to go to break more from doctor

125
00:10:16.159 --> 00:10:33.159
Michael Reuben after this stay with us. Do you have heart failure? And

126
00:10:33.320 --> 00:10:37.039
often here those stomach issues ruined your
birthday? You're too tired to play catch

127
00:10:37.080 --> 00:10:41.519
grandpa, sweetie. You haven't touched
your tools since the carpal tunnel syndrome diagnosis.

128
00:10:41.679 --> 00:10:46.360
If these seemingly unrelated symptoms sound familiar, talk to your cardiologist. Ask

129
00:10:46.399 --> 00:10:54.200
about trendstyrett and amyloid cardiomyopathy or ATTRSCM, a rare and underdiagnosed disease that gets

130
00:10:54.240 --> 00:10:56.879
worse over time. Learn more at
connect to your Heart dot com. Let's

131
00:10:56.919 --> 00:11:01.519
connect to your Heart dot com sponsored
fighter. How would you like to get

132
00:11:01.600 --> 00:11:05.799
high speed internet for your home for
less than two dollars a day? That's

133
00:11:05.879 --> 00:11:09.559
right, For about fifty bucks a
month, you'll get lightning fast internet.

134
00:11:09.639 --> 00:11:13.120
Are you paying less than fifty bucks
a month right now for your internet?

135
00:11:13.200 --> 00:11:18.600
Then called whole home Connect right now
for blazing fast internet at fifty bucks a

136
00:11:18.639 --> 00:11:24.320
month with no price increases, no
hidden fees, no contracts, no upfront

137
00:11:24.360 --> 00:11:28.000
costs, no equipment fees. It's
a great deal. And guess what,

138
00:11:28.240 --> 00:11:31.320
you can try it for fifteen days. If you don't like it, you

139
00:11:31.440 --> 00:11:35.279
get your money back, But you're
gonna love it, and you're gonna love

140
00:11:35.320 --> 00:11:39.559
the price. Internet for your home
for fifty bucks a month. That's less

141
00:11:39.600 --> 00:11:43.759
than two bucks a day, plus
no contracts, no upfront costs, no

142
00:11:43.879 --> 00:11:48.639
equipment fees, and our fifteen day
guarantee. Call now eight hundred six nine

143
00:11:48.759 --> 00:11:54.320
nine three five eight, eight hundred
six ninety nine O three five eight,

144
00:11:54.399 --> 00:11:58.000
eight hundred six nine nine O three
five eight. That's eight hundred six nine

145
00:11:58.080 --> 00:12:05.200
nine zero fifty eight. Attention timeshare
owners tired of the financial stress where you

146
00:12:05.279 --> 00:12:09.039
misled by the salesperson, don't or
can't use your time share anymore. If

147
00:12:09.039 --> 00:12:11.759
any of these apply to you,
then you may qualify for timeshare cancelation and

148
00:12:11.840 --> 00:12:16.320
get their a leafeee now. Timeshare
Defense Attorneys is the number one affordable fixed

149
00:12:16.360 --> 00:12:20.519
fee legal solution in the country,
with an A plus Better Business Bureau rating

150
00:12:20.679 --> 00:12:24.720
that's certainly better than my grades.
They even offer a one hundred percent client

151
00:12:24.799 --> 00:12:30.600
satisfaction guarantee. Let one of their
experienced lawyers evaluate your case and explain the

152
00:12:30.679 --> 00:12:33.600
process. If they take you as
a client, they'll work on your case

153
00:12:33.679 --> 00:12:37.000
until it's resolved in your favor guaranteed. Expect great service in a close working

154
00:12:37.039 --> 00:12:41.960
relationship with your lawyer, keeping you
informed every step of the way, protecting

155
00:12:41.960 --> 00:12:45.279
your rights, interests, and even
your credit. It's that simple. Even

156
00:12:45.320 --> 00:12:48.000
a kid like me could understand it. The consultation is free. Call today

157
00:12:48.159 --> 00:12:54.600
eight hundred two nine six one three
three two, eight hundred two nine six

158
00:12:54.840 --> 00:12:58.960
one three three two. That's eight
hundred two nine six thirteen thirty two.

159
00:13:00.879 --> 00:13:05.799
President Biden recently released a massive six
trillion dollar budget, the largest budget in

160
00:13:05.879 --> 00:13:09.360
US history. And guests, who
pays the bill? That's right, you,

161
00:13:09.879 --> 00:13:13.960
the American taxpayer. American citizens and
business owners will be paying more taxes,

162
00:13:15.159 --> 00:13:18.679
that's a fact. And if you
owe back taxes, they will be

163
00:13:18.759 --> 00:13:22.799
coming after you to collect payments.
In fact, President Biden also hired thousands

164
00:13:22.840 --> 00:13:26.279
more IRS agents to go after you. If you've got a letter from the

165
00:13:26.279 --> 00:13:31.440
IRS and you know you owe back
taxes or you haven't filed in years,

166
00:13:31.600 --> 00:13:35.000
don't put your head in the stand. Call us today. We've saved our

167
00:13:35.039 --> 00:13:39.759
customers millions of tax dollars. One
quick, free phone call will show you

168
00:13:39.799 --> 00:13:43.480
how we can reduce your past tax
bill and save you thousands guaranteed, or

169
00:13:43.519 --> 00:13:50.080
you pay nothing. Call now eight
hundred nine three two one five nine seven

170
00:13:50.399 --> 00:13:54.120
eight hundred nine three two one five
nine seven. That's eight hundred nine three

171
00:13:54.200 --> 00:14:11.960
two fifteen ninety seven paid for by
the tax helpline. And we're back with

172
00:14:13.000 --> 00:14:16.000
you, Bill Martinez here along with
doctor Michael Rubin, the nineteen forty five

173
00:14:16.039 --> 00:14:20.559
contributing editor, senior fellow at the
American Enterprise Institute, and former Pentagon official.

174
00:14:20.960 --> 00:14:26.960
Michael It would appear that Secretary B. Lincoln wasn't able to do much

175
00:14:26.080 --> 00:14:31.759
damage control when he went to meet
with President gy. But we've got now

176
00:14:31.039 --> 00:14:35.639
Janet Yellen, the Secretary of the
Treasury, doing some damage control to see

177
00:14:35.720 --> 00:14:41.840
if something can be done to repair, you know, some diplomacy here between

178
00:14:41.879 --> 00:14:46.840
the US in China. Well,
you know, the danger now is diplomacy

179
00:14:46.919 --> 00:14:52.559
for the sake of diplomacy. Bill, And we've got a situation that reminds

180
00:14:52.600 --> 00:14:58.399
me a little bit of the Kennedy
Krusev summit back in nineteen sixty one,

181
00:14:58.000 --> 00:15:05.039
where Rushchev only, i mean only
agreed to meet with Kennedy after he saw

182
00:15:05.120 --> 00:15:11.600
that or he believed that Kennedy was
weak and he could humiliate him further.

183
00:15:11.120 --> 00:15:16.440
We've really got to ask the question
about whether meeting for the sake of meeting

184
00:15:18.000 --> 00:15:22.639
is worthwhile and what preparation is being
taken in to make sure that we can

185
00:15:22.679 --> 00:15:26.919
actually negotiate from a position of strength. That goes back to your initial questions

186
00:15:28.240 --> 00:15:33.919
with regard to our military, the
state of our military, and the solidarity

187
00:15:33.000 --> 00:15:39.399
which we're willing to show on foreign
policy. Unfortunately, we come off from

188
00:15:39.440 --> 00:15:43.639
the Chinese perspective as just flailing,
and these sorts of visits can actually make

189
00:15:43.639 --> 00:15:50.080
the situation worse if they embold in
China to believe that we're weak and that

190
00:15:50.120 --> 00:15:54.360
we don't have the backbone to do
what it takes. Well, Michael,

191
00:15:54.360 --> 00:15:58.960
with your experience as a Pentagon official
and what you've done, you know globally,

192
00:15:58.080 --> 00:16:03.039
and you know about the stuff.
You know, when when you have

193
00:16:03.159 --> 00:16:10.320
officials, especially at this level.
Janet Yellen meeting with President Giu, even

194
00:16:10.360 --> 00:16:14.639
with Lincoln last time, we expected
some some takeaway. There was nothing that

195
00:16:14.799 --> 00:16:18.960
came out of there. And so, uh, you know, to your

196
00:16:18.000 --> 00:16:22.720
point, it really adds to that
perception of weakness that America has if it

197
00:16:22.799 --> 00:16:26.559
goes and has these meetings and meanwhile
you have the president saying, Oh,

198
00:16:26.679 --> 00:16:30.159
I'm gonna I'm gonna meet with you
know, President ge Um. You know

199
00:16:30.240 --> 00:16:33.519
he's not all that offended because I
called him a dictator, you know,

200
00:16:33.679 --> 00:16:38.559
in other stories. But you know, this seems to be, you know,

201
00:16:38.879 --> 00:16:42.399
a little bit of a distraction because
I think that the problems that we

202
00:16:42.480 --> 00:16:45.639
have right now, Michael, unless
I'm misjudging them, I think they're a

203
00:16:45.679 --> 00:16:51.159
lot more serious that they really need. Uh, you know, the our

204
00:16:51.240 --> 00:16:56.919
president and their president coming together to
have these discussions, not to have surrogates

205
00:16:56.960 --> 00:17:00.120
at this point. Well, on
one hand, I agree with you.

206
00:17:00.759 --> 00:17:03.600
On the other hand, I'm going
to push back. I'm just one one

207
00:17:03.759 --> 00:17:10.720
issue bill, the notion that somehow
speaking truth in foreign policy should somehow be

208
00:17:10.759 --> 00:17:15.319
a sin. Now Biden may have
done it accidentally, and even a stop

209
00:17:15.319 --> 00:17:18.799
clock is right twice a day,
as they say, But China is a

210
00:17:18.839 --> 00:17:23.519
dictatorship, and I think it's highly
unlikely that g is such a snowflake that

211
00:17:23.680 --> 00:17:30.559
he truly took great offense at being
called a dictator. We've got to stop

212
00:17:32.400 --> 00:17:40.319
falling into this track where we tie
ourselves into nuts over fake grievance because our

213
00:17:40.440 --> 00:17:45.160
enemies take advantage of us there.
But I'm all for, as you say,

214
00:17:45.480 --> 00:17:48.799
having a head of state summit.
But again, we've got to do

215
00:17:48.880 --> 00:17:52.839
it from a position of strength rather
than weakness. We've got to do it

216
00:17:52.880 --> 00:17:57.000
when we've committed to build up Japan, build up India, build up Taiwan,

217
00:17:57.559 --> 00:18:04.079
rather than do it as if or
at some surf who's coming to meet

218
00:18:04.160 --> 00:18:10.440
with the Chinese Empire. Emperor Michael, I'm a bit confused. Speaking of

219
00:18:10.480 --> 00:18:14.359
Taiwan. Joe Biden a one time
said, you know, oh, yeah,

220
00:18:14.359 --> 00:18:18.279
we're you know, we're definitely gonna
support Taiwan, and then all of

221
00:18:18.319 --> 00:18:22.839
a sudden it got really milk toasty, and you know, I gotta tell

222
00:18:22.839 --> 00:18:25.680
you, if I was Taiwan ease, it would have made me nervous because

223
00:18:25.680 --> 00:18:30.319
I felt like they abandoned me.
Well, it's actually groundhog Day because Biden

224
00:18:30.440 --> 00:18:34.160
has done it four times, and
each time the White House walked back the

225
00:18:34.200 --> 00:18:41.000
statement, which raises questions again about
who's really in charge in the White House,

226
00:18:41.279 --> 00:18:45.640
and that gives a fundamental question about
the state of democracy in the United

227
00:18:45.640 --> 00:18:48.480
States. But let's put that aside
for a second. You're absolutely right there.

228
00:18:48.799 --> 00:18:53.599
I mean, what I'm worried about
is not the question of if China

229
00:18:53.599 --> 00:18:57.480
will make a push towards Taiwan,
but when. And just one thing on

230
00:18:57.519 --> 00:19:02.920
Taiwan, because many Americans might say, hey, look, why is it

231
00:19:02.960 --> 00:19:10.279
our business? Anyway, you know, the last time mainland China controlled Taiwan

232
00:19:10.359 --> 00:19:17.680
in any shape or form, the
United States was still occupying Cuba, as

233
00:19:17.759 --> 00:19:21.920
if you will, a possession from
the Spanish American War. It's been that

234
00:19:22.000 --> 00:19:27.640
long. Put another way, China
has only controlled Taiwan for about fifteen years

235
00:19:27.759 --> 00:19:32.599
over the last five hundred years.
So what we're really seeing when it comes

236
00:19:32.599 --> 00:19:37.920
to Taiwan isn't China trying to reclaim
some sort of lost territory, but rather

237
00:19:38.519 --> 00:19:45.799
a furtherance of a colonial action.
And then the question becomes when and how

238
00:19:45.839 --> 00:19:48.039
are they going to be willing to
stop. If we wanted to look at

239
00:19:48.160 --> 00:19:55.400
what's often called the nine Dashed Line, this map that gives China ninety percent

240
00:19:55.559 --> 00:19:59.799
of the South China Sea and is
disputed by Vietnam, by Indonesia, by

241
00:20:00.160 --> 00:20:03.759
ni by Malaysia, and by Taiwan
by the Philippines, that map is a

242
00:20:03.799 --> 00:20:10.200
complete work of fiction. Even Chinese
historians have more or less said that there

243
00:20:10.359 --> 00:20:12.480
is no I mean when China says, well, our fishermen have been there

244
00:20:12.519 --> 00:20:17.079
for hundreds of years, Everyone's fishermen
have been there for hundreds of years.

245
00:20:17.119 --> 00:20:21.000
The exact point is, give an
inch, they take a hundred miles.

246
00:20:21.359 --> 00:20:23.640
This is why sometimes when faced with
a bully, you got to stand up

247
00:20:23.640 --> 00:20:26.680
to them. And I'm sorry,
this is where I'll pushed back. Sending

248
00:20:26.759 --> 00:20:32.920
Joe Biden to bumble through Beijing isn't
exactly standing up to them unless we're truly

249
00:20:33.000 --> 00:20:37.359
prepared. Yeah, Unfortunately, it's
the management we have right now to represent

250
00:20:37.480 --> 00:20:44.960
us. And whether it's Blincoln Janet
yelling God forbid, Kamala Harris, You're

251
00:20:45.000 --> 00:20:49.559
exactly right. The bench of diplomats
that we have that could support the American

252
00:20:49.599 --> 00:20:55.640
cause are definitely very weak by comparison, no doubt about it. Michael,

253
00:20:56.720 --> 00:21:00.480
What if what if China was to
take over Taiwan? What would it look

254
00:21:00.519 --> 00:21:06.960
like? Okay, there's a couple
different issues here that I want to parse

255
00:21:07.000 --> 00:21:11.319
out. First of all, the
thing that worries me most is China is

256
00:21:11.359 --> 00:21:15.079
going to bluster so much that the
United States is going to give up that

257
00:21:15.240 --> 00:21:19.400
in effect, we are going to
get bluffed. And the reason I say

258
00:21:19.440 --> 00:21:25.000
this is number one, China hasn't
fought a war since nineteen seventy nine,

259
00:21:25.000 --> 00:21:29.119
when they briefly fought Vietnam and they
lost that war. Second of all,

260
00:21:29.480 --> 00:21:33.559
we often talk about the One Child
policy, the forced sterilizations, of forced

261
00:21:33.599 --> 00:21:37.880
abortions, in terms of morality,
and it is a moral issue. But

262
00:21:37.400 --> 00:21:42.279
in terms of strategy, thirty six
years of the One China policy has meant

263
00:21:42.640 --> 00:21:48.079
that China not only has an army
of single of only children, but of

264
00:21:48.160 --> 00:21:56.160
only science. And as China's population
ages, the elites in Beijing, the

265
00:21:56.279 --> 00:22:02.480
elites in Shanghai are going to depend
upon those suns in order to take them

266
00:22:02.480 --> 00:22:06.440
into their golden years. Now,
the point is this, It's easy to

267
00:22:06.519 --> 00:22:11.559
lob missiles to Taiwan and cause a
great deal of damage, but Taiwan is

268
00:22:11.000 --> 00:22:18.599
topographically one of the roughest places on
Earth. To try to occupy Taiwan is

269
00:22:18.640 --> 00:22:22.119
going to cost tens of thousands of
lives. It's going to make Ukraine look

270
00:22:22.160 --> 00:22:26.880
like a cakewalk. And the point
is this, China, I'm not sure

271
00:22:27.119 --> 00:22:33.160
is able to address that. But
let's say, because China's population is plummeting,

272
00:22:33.559 --> 00:22:37.920
it's going to be eight hundred million
people by the year twenty one hundred.

273
00:22:37.000 --> 00:22:41.759
Right now it's over one point four
billion. What I'm afraid they do

274
00:22:41.799 --> 00:22:45.920
if they want to do this if
they want to distract from their economic failings.

275
00:22:45.400 --> 00:22:52.640
Number one, either go after or
attack, Either pressure or attack Singapore.

276
00:22:52.720 --> 00:22:57.880
First, why nine of our jet
fuel for the Pacific Command is stored

277
00:22:59.119 --> 00:23:04.799
in Singapore. And the reason why
that's important is if China invades Taiwan,

278
00:23:06.720 --> 00:23:10.039
they're going to I mean, we're
going to respond with our navy, but

279
00:23:10.079 --> 00:23:14.240
we want to stay out of their
missile range, which means we have to

280
00:23:14.279 --> 00:23:18.119
respond with naval aviation. If they
ncap our ability to fly those planes,

281
00:23:18.960 --> 00:23:22.519
then what will happen? And this
is where we need to be preparing.

282
00:23:22.920 --> 00:23:26.960
Where are the fuel deposts in Japan, Where are the fuel deposts in Hawaii?

283
00:23:26.160 --> 00:23:30.240
Where are the fuel depots in Australia
and so forth? So that's number

284
00:23:30.240 --> 00:23:33.240
one. Another issue, and this
is what I think is actually much more

285
00:23:33.279 --> 00:23:37.599
likely rather than all out assault on
Taiwan. I think we're going to have

286
00:23:37.640 --> 00:23:42.279
the so called salami slicing. That's
where they keep taking a slice hoping that

287
00:23:42.319 --> 00:23:45.799
it doesn't meet the threshold of an
all out war. A lot of people

288
00:23:45.839 --> 00:23:52.799
don't realize that the Taiwan Relations Act
commits the United States to defend the main

289
00:23:52.839 --> 00:23:56.720
Taiwan island and the Pescadories, which
are a group of islands in the middle

290
00:23:56.720 --> 00:24:00.960
of the Taiwan Street. But Taiwan
is many more islands, some if you

291
00:24:02.039 --> 00:24:07.000
remember back to the Eisenhower or Taiwan
crisis, are only about five miles off

292
00:24:07.000 --> 00:24:11.160
the coast of China. Those aren't
included in the Act, so I think

293
00:24:11.680 --> 00:24:17.319
China would go after them first and
test our reaction exactly. Michael got to

294
00:24:17.359 --> 00:24:19.200
go to quick Break. More from
doctor Michael Rubin. After this stay with

295
00:24:19.319 --> 00:24:37.599
US, the FDA issued an import
alert for US customs authorities to detain illegal

296
00:24:37.680 --> 00:24:42.440
disposable flavored nicotine ET cigarettes from foreign
countries, including China. Rich Marianos is

297
00:24:42.480 --> 00:24:48.839
a former assistant director for the ATF
now with Georgetown University. These disposable eat

298
00:24:48.880 --> 00:24:52.680
cigarettes have become a real problem.
It's encouraging to see the FDA act at

299
00:24:52.680 --> 00:24:55.559
the border, but our kids need
them to take the next steps and remove

300
00:24:55.599 --> 00:24:59.240
these foreign disposables from the store shelves. They have the authority and now it's

301
00:24:59.279 --> 00:25:03.599
time to act. Sponsored by the
Border Security Alliance. How would you like

302
00:25:03.640 --> 00:25:07.799
to get high speed internet for your
home for less than two dollars a day?

303
00:25:07.000 --> 00:25:11.440
That's right, for about fifty bucks
a month, you'll get lightning fast

304
00:25:11.480 --> 00:25:15.000
internet. Are you paying less than
fifty bucks a month right now for your

305
00:25:15.039 --> 00:25:19.599
internet? Then call Whole Home Connect
right now for blazing fast Internet at fifty

306
00:25:19.599 --> 00:25:25.599
bucks a month with no price increases, no hidden fees, no contracts,

307
00:25:25.839 --> 00:25:30.279
no upfront costs, no equipment fees. It's a great deal. And guess

308
00:25:30.279 --> 00:25:33.519
what, you can try it for
fifteen days. If you don't like it,

309
00:25:33.640 --> 00:25:36.079
you get your money back. But
you're gonna love it, and you're

310
00:25:36.119 --> 00:25:40.200
gonna love the price. Internet for
your home for fifty bucks a month.

311
00:25:40.359 --> 00:25:44.960
That's less than two bucks a day, plus no contracts, no upfront costs,

312
00:25:45.079 --> 00:25:49.400
no equipment fees, and our fifteen
day guarantee. Call now eight hundred

313
00:25:49.480 --> 00:25:55.960
six nine nine three five eight eight
hundred six nine nine three five eight eight

314
00:25:56.039 --> 00:26:00.680
hundred six nine nine o three five
eight. That's eight hundred six nine nine

315
00:26:00.839 --> 00:26:03.480
zero three fifty eight. Would you
like to hear better for as little as

316
00:26:03.519 --> 00:26:07.400
ten cents a day? Now you
can with the all new audience hearing aids.

317
00:26:07.640 --> 00:26:11.440
The average heering aid lasts about three
years. Ours at only ninety nine

318
00:26:11.440 --> 00:26:15.920
dollars a pair, means you're paying
as little as ten cents a day to

319
00:26:15.039 --> 00:26:18.319
hear better, and to make things
even better, we'll give you a forty

320
00:26:18.319 --> 00:26:22.839
five day money back guarantee. Skip
the doctor and get hearing aids delivered straight

321
00:26:22.839 --> 00:26:26.839
to your door. We've eliminated all
the middlemen to offer you a factory direct

322
00:26:26.880 --> 00:26:30.920
price of only ninety nine dollars a
pair. Join over three hundred thousand people

323
00:26:32.079 --> 00:26:34.960
just like you who took advantage of
our forty five day trial offer. Now

324
00:26:36.119 --> 00:26:38.480
you can hear better too, for
just ten cents a day. Call now

325
00:26:38.519 --> 00:26:42.440
and order your ninety nine dollars pair
of audience hearing aids with a forty five

326
00:26:42.559 --> 00:26:47.680
day money back guarantee, plus get
free three to five day shipping. Eight

327
00:26:47.759 --> 00:26:52.480
hundred five seven seven five three one
nine, eight hundred five seven seven five

328
00:26:52.680 --> 00:26:57.680
three one nine eight hundred five seven
seven five three one nine. That's eight

329
00:26:57.759 --> 00:27:03.720
hundred five seven seven fifty three nineteen. Attention timeshare owners, tired of the

330
00:27:03.759 --> 00:27:08.160
financial stress where you misled by the
salesperson, don't or can't use your time

331
00:27:08.200 --> 00:27:11.119
share anymore. If any of these
apply to you, then you may qualify

332
00:27:11.200 --> 00:27:15.880
for timeshare cancelation and get their a
leafeee now. Timeshare Defense Attorneys is the

333
00:27:15.960 --> 00:27:21.119
number one affordable, fixed fee legal
solution in the country with an A plus

334
00:27:21.119 --> 00:27:25.440
Better Business Bureau rating that's certainly better
than my grades. They even offer a

335
00:27:25.519 --> 00:27:30.680
one hundred percent client satisfaction guarantee.
Let one of their experienced lawyers evaluate your

336
00:27:30.680 --> 00:27:33.880
case and explain the process. If
they take you as a client, they'll

337
00:27:33.920 --> 00:27:37.200
work on your case until it's resolved
in your favor guaranteed. Expect great service

338
00:27:37.200 --> 00:27:41.119
in a close working relationship with your
lawyer, keeping you informed every step of

339
00:27:41.160 --> 00:27:45.359
the way, protecting your rights,
interests, and even your credit. It's

340
00:27:45.400 --> 00:27:48.039
that simple. Even a kid like
me could understand it. The consultation is

341
00:27:48.079 --> 00:27:53.119
free. Call today eight hundred two
nine six one three three two. Eight

342
00:27:53.200 --> 00:28:00.400
hundred two nine six one three three
two. That's eight hundred two nine sixteen

343
00:28:00.640 --> 00:28:18.200
thirty two. We're back with the
America. Bill Martinez here, Good to

344
00:28:18.240 --> 00:28:22.359
have you with us. Doctor Michael
Rubin continues with us the nineteen forty five

345
00:28:22.400 --> 00:28:26.000
contributing editor, a senior fellow at
the American Enterprise Institute and former Pentagon official.

346
00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:30.400
Michael, I want to stay with
China just a little bit. You

347
00:28:30.440 --> 00:28:34.839
know you touched on this. The
demographics of China are troublesome. I think

348
00:28:34.880 --> 00:28:41.839
for the first year in recent history, their population, well the year before

349
00:28:41.920 --> 00:28:45.519
was static pretty much, but they're
down about point two percent, so they're

350
00:28:45.559 --> 00:28:52.200
on a decline. The other thing
that they're realizing is that with the one

351
00:28:52.279 --> 00:28:56.440
child two child I think now it's
up to three child policy, the first

352
00:28:56.960 --> 00:29:03.359
people to be aborted are are male
female girls. And so now you have

353
00:29:03.799 --> 00:29:07.319
a huge lack. You got less
marriages now happening. And I think it

354
00:29:07.400 --> 00:29:12.519
was estimated that you have a lot
of men out there that there's no women.

355
00:29:14.000 --> 00:29:15.759
I don't know, You're gonna have
to have some sort of Sadie Hawkins

356
00:29:15.759 --> 00:29:19.960
event or something so that these men
can have women, because, boy,

357
00:29:21.000 --> 00:29:25.319
I'll tell you, when you look
at some of the dynamics that occur in

358
00:29:25.480 --> 00:29:33.240
cultures when men are not getting married
and they're not being satisfied in a sexual

359
00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:37.000
context, you've got a lot of
problems that rise here. So China's got

360
00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:40.680
their hands full, and I think
what's being reported here in the West.

361
00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:45.799
We're constantly being told how great they
are and they're in such a strong position,

362
00:29:45.240 --> 00:29:52.839
but their economy is down. Their
basic infrastructure of humanity of human bodies,

363
00:29:52.160 --> 00:29:56.000
is at risk, is it not. I think you're absolutely right.

364
00:29:56.400 --> 00:30:00.240
Look, they're facing a double whammy
the first thirty six years of the one

365
00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:04.200
child policy, and like you said, that came with a great deal of

366
00:30:04.440 --> 00:30:11.119
femicide along the side. But as
their economy has grown more affluent, this

367
00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:17.480
is something that's common in most developing
a developed economies, is the fertility rate

368
00:30:17.559 --> 00:30:19.960
drops. So on one hand,
perhaps they can have three children now,

369
00:30:21.240 --> 00:30:25.720
but many families are choosing not to. Basically, China in the year twenty

370
00:30:25.799 --> 00:30:30.079
twenty three is like Japan in the
year nineteen eighty three as it was heading

371
00:30:30.119 --> 00:30:36.759
off the demographic precipice. This is
why I had mentioned briefly that UN report

372
00:30:36.799 --> 00:30:41.200
which cited that India had surpassed China
as the world's most populous country. Now

373
00:30:41.240 --> 00:30:45.279
that was the headlines across the globe, but if you actually look at that

374
00:30:45.599 --> 00:30:51.920
report, what I found much more
interesting is by the end of the century,

375
00:30:52.599 --> 00:30:56.880
India is going to have a population
around one point six one point seven

376
00:30:56.920 --> 00:31:00.640
billion people. China is going to
be down to around eight hundred million people,

377
00:31:02.079 --> 00:31:06.279
meaning they're going to lose six hundred
six hundred million people from where they

378
00:31:06.319 --> 00:31:11.279
are now, or approximately two entire
populations of the United States of America that's

379
00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:17.440
reculif facing, and with that goes
their economy, because their economy, with

380
00:31:17.480 --> 00:31:22.240
all due respects to Tom Friedman,
hasn't been the result of wise dictatorship.

381
00:31:22.720 --> 00:31:27.720
It's been on economists call the demographic
dividend, where suddenly you have a huge

382
00:31:27.880 --> 00:31:33.599
influx of working age population, but
you don't have many elderly population. Now

383
00:31:33.599 --> 00:31:37.640
that's going to invert, and when
that inverts, you're usually talking recession.

384
00:31:40.200 --> 00:31:42.839
Yeah, exactly. And then the
tradition and the culture of the Chinese people

385
00:31:44.400 --> 00:31:48.960
is the eldest son or child takes
care of the elderly. So how are

386
00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:53.599
they going to be able to contribute
to the GDP of China if their home

387
00:31:53.720 --> 00:32:00.160
with their parents. You're absolutely correct
with that, and that's what China is

388
00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:04.039
facing. I mean, when I
go to India and I was on the

389
00:32:04.039 --> 00:32:09.079
Indian Chinese boarder high up in near
the Himalayas last fall, you know what

390
00:32:09.359 --> 00:32:15.559
someone Indian soldier said to me was
the average Indian soldier has four siblings.

391
00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:20.400
The average Chinese soldier has none.
I mean, this is what China is

392
00:32:20.440 --> 00:32:22.839
facing. And so this is what
I mean. I think we need to

393
00:32:22.880 --> 00:32:28.319
focus on the question, isn't the
rise of China. It's not the suit

394
00:32:29.200 --> 00:32:34.240
China supplanting in the United States.
Rather, it's the fall of China and

395
00:32:34.319 --> 00:32:37.759
what that fall might mean. And
there we have an example when it comes

396
00:32:37.759 --> 00:32:43.640
to Russia, as Russia's demographics,
as its fertility I imploated. We see

397
00:32:43.720 --> 00:32:49.880
Vladimir Putin engage in this adventurism to
distract people by waving the flag. What

398
00:32:49.960 --> 00:32:52.400
would it mean if China did the
same thing. One last point, Bill,

399
00:32:53.480 --> 00:32:59.200
If your viewers can imagine a map
and they draw drew a circle around

400
00:32:59.519 --> 00:33:05.720
India and China, more people on
this earth live inside that circle than outside

401
00:33:05.799 --> 00:33:09.599
that circle. We've never really had
a major war, at least since nineteen

402
00:33:09.640 --> 00:33:15.440
seventy nine inside that circle. What
would be the economic ramifications of such a

403
00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:21.319
war even if the United States wasn't
directly involved. Michael, you know,

404
00:33:21.359 --> 00:33:23.440
you bring up such an excellent point, and it makes me wonder. I

405
00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:28.920
mean, right now, we got
globaliss with their mission and their objectives that

406
00:33:28.960 --> 00:33:32.759
they're looking at. Is there anybody
that is looking at what you just laid

407
00:33:32.759 --> 00:33:37.119
out. I mean, you don't
want cranky people coming out of any one

408
00:33:37.119 --> 00:33:43.000
of those two areas. I mean
that could be devastating to the entire globe,

409
00:33:43.039 --> 00:33:46.200
would it not. Well, I
think you're absolutely right on that bill.

410
00:33:46.799 --> 00:33:50.839
The short answer is, yes,
people are thinking about this. They're

411
00:33:50.880 --> 00:33:54.599
thinking about this in the think tanks. They're thinking about this on the country

412
00:33:54.640 --> 00:34:00.359
desks and in the intelligence community,
and yes, in the military. Problem

413
00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:05.400
is our leadership, both in Congress
and in the White House, aren't thinking

414
00:34:05.440 --> 00:34:10.000
about this. You know, you
can't win the battle for freedom on the

415
00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:15.559
fly. You've got a plan,
and we're not planning. It's like we're

416
00:34:15.559 --> 00:34:19.679
in a slow motion train wreck.
Everyone can see it coming and we're doing

417
00:34:19.800 --> 00:34:22.599
nothing to hit the brakes. Well, I guess what you're saying is something

418
00:34:22.599 --> 00:34:25.639
that in my gut that I've sensed, is that we're not very proactive.

419
00:34:27.440 --> 00:34:30.239
These days, we seem to be
more reactive. And again, you know,

420
00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:32.719
some of this stuff, like you
said, happening in thing tanks,

421
00:34:32.719 --> 00:34:38.159
happening in places that you know only
nerdy people and people like you and I

422
00:34:38.280 --> 00:34:42.639
are interested in that because we see
the trajectory and we think of at least

423
00:34:42.639 --> 00:34:45.440
for me, I'm thinking of my
kids and my grandkids, Michael, what

424
00:34:45.079 --> 00:34:49.559
is what kind of America are we
leaving them? What kind of world are

425
00:34:49.559 --> 00:34:52.679
they going to step into what you
say proactive, and I agree with you.

426
00:34:52.800 --> 00:34:57.159
I say serious, and we're not
showing a great deal of seriousness.

427
00:34:57.400 --> 00:35:00.639
We're kicking that in the can down
the road in a way that is wholly

428
00:35:00.840 --> 00:35:07.039
irresponsible for the next generations. There's
no other way to put it exactly.

429
00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:12.400
Well, you bring up Russia and
Ukraine. Here it is you know,

430
00:35:13.719 --> 00:35:17.400
this is just the war that will
not end here. And Donald Trump has

431
00:35:17.400 --> 00:35:20.920
said, look at give me twenty
four hours. I could fix this thing.

432
00:35:21.280 --> 00:35:24.840
And of course other stratagists kind of
mock that, but I'm not hearing

433
00:35:24.880 --> 00:35:30.880
any other alternative other than hey,
let's just keep giving Ukraine billions of dollars

434
00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:34.360
to defend themselves. Well, the
first thing, though, is I think

435
00:35:34.360 --> 00:35:37.440
we need to step back and ask
what our end goal is. And it's

436
00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:40.119
simply to allow Ukraine to stand up
to Russia, or is it to allow

437
00:35:40.280 --> 00:35:45.960
Ukraine to win? And what would
be highly unfair is simply to dribble out

438
00:35:46.039 --> 00:35:52.960
weaponry to Ukraine expect Ukrainians to die
for a fight where we're not serious about

439
00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:58.639
allowing Ukraine to win. So either
we commit ourselves to a Ukrainian victory,

440
00:35:59.239 --> 00:36:04.719
or we stop treating the Ukrainians unfairly. I hope Ukraine wins this war.

441
00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:08.880
What I'm afraid of, though,
is we've descended into a frozen conflict in

442
00:36:08.920 --> 00:36:13.880
which neither Russia nor Ukraine are going
to be able to win. But too

443
00:36:13.880 --> 00:36:22.079
many people have, too many outside
powers have a interest in continuing this fight.

444
00:36:22.599 --> 00:36:24.639
Ultimately, I think PIECE is only
going to come to Ukraine and Vladimir

445
00:36:24.719 --> 00:36:30.760
Putin dies right sadly, Well,
you know, whatever it takes. But

446
00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:34.079
the other thing that we're looking for
here, you know, going back to

447
00:36:34.119 --> 00:36:37.840
what we talked about earlier, Michael, and that is that where's the visionary,

448
00:36:37.960 --> 00:36:44.760
who is the congealing leader to come
in and bring NATO together, because

449
00:36:44.880 --> 00:36:50.639
it seems that NATO has a lot
more to lose than America if Russia was

450
00:36:50.679 --> 00:36:55.639
to win over Ukraine. Well,
I think that you're absolutely right there.

451
00:36:57.039 --> 00:37:01.719
And look, the silver lining to
what we've seen over the last year and

452
00:37:01.800 --> 00:37:07.639
a half in Ukraine is the fact
that Europe is a lot more serious than

453
00:37:07.679 --> 00:37:10.639
it was just a few years ago. Europe may have been serious after World

454
00:37:10.679 --> 00:37:14.199
War Two, it may have been
serious at the height of the Cold War,

455
00:37:15.039 --> 00:37:20.719
but European leaders have lost their sense
of seriousness now they've regained that,

456
00:37:21.039 --> 00:37:27.119
and the European public has as well. The unfortunately NATO structure as it's expanded,

457
00:37:27.119 --> 00:37:32.280
perhaps for the sake of expanding,
isn't capable of addressing perhaps what its

458
00:37:32.320 --> 00:37:37.480
core mission needs to be. And
that's because it's taken on countries like I

459
00:37:37.519 --> 00:37:42.440
mean, some smaller countries. When
we see the in fighting between Turkey and

460
00:37:43.320 --> 00:37:50.119
NATO applicant Sweden, we're again losing
sight of the forest. For focus on

461
00:37:50.280 --> 00:37:54.440
trees exactly time to go to break
more from doctor Michael Rubin after they stay

462
00:37:54.480 --> 00:38:12.440
with US. Individuals and businesses with
tax problems, listen carefully. Do you

463
00:38:12.519 --> 00:38:15.760
feel like you're losing control of your
finances if you owe over ten thousand dollars

464
00:38:15.760 --> 00:38:20.599
in back taxes or have unfiled tax
returns, we can help you take back

465
00:38:20.599 --> 00:38:24.280
control. The IRS is the largest
and most aggressive collection agency in the world,

466
00:38:24.360 --> 00:38:28.559
and they can seize your bank accounts, garnish your paycheck, close your

467
00:38:28.599 --> 00:38:31.800
business, and file criminal charges.
Take control of your tax problem now by

468
00:38:31.840 --> 00:38:37.320
calling the experts at US tax Shield
and take advantage of the Fresh Start program

469
00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:40.519
and new laws that may allow us
to negotiate a settlement for the lowest amount

470
00:38:40.519 --> 00:38:45.360
possible. Our team of tax attorneys
and enrolled agents can stop collections and get

471
00:38:45.400 --> 00:38:50.880
you protected so you can take control
of your financial future. US tax Shield

472
00:38:51.000 --> 00:38:54.880
offers a price protection guaranteed quote to
get you protected today. US tax Shield

473
00:38:55.000 --> 00:38:59.519
is a plus rated with the Better
Business Bureau. So call now eight hundred

474
00:38:59.559 --> 00:39:02.519
five three sixty four thirty six.
That's eight hundred five three six forty four

475
00:39:02.639 --> 00:39:07.320
thirty six. US tech Shield eight
hundred pi three six forty four thirty six.

476
00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:12.239
How would you like to get high
speed internet for your home for less

477
00:39:12.280 --> 00:39:15.800
than two dollars a day? That's
right. For about fifty bucks a month,

478
00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:19.800
you'll get lightning fast internet. Are
you paying less than fifty bucks a

479
00:39:19.800 --> 00:39:23.079
month right now for your internet?
Then call Whole Home Connect right now for

480
00:39:23.320 --> 00:39:29.639
blazing fast internet at fifty bucks a
month with no price increases, no hidden

481
00:39:29.719 --> 00:39:34.960
fees, no contracts, no upfront
costs, no equipment fees. It's a

482
00:39:35.000 --> 00:39:37.519
great deal. And guess what.
You can try it for fifteen days.

483
00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:40.360
If you don't like it, you
get your money back. But you're gonna

484
00:39:40.400 --> 00:39:44.760
love it, and you're gonna love
the price. Internet for your home for

485
00:39:44.880 --> 00:39:47.800
fifty bucks a month. That's less
than two bucks a day plus, no

486
00:39:47.880 --> 00:39:53.639
contracts, no upfront costs, no
equipment fees, and our fifteen day guarantee.

487
00:39:53.800 --> 00:39:59.559
Call now eight hundred six ninety nine
three five eight, eight hundred six

488
00:39:59.719 --> 00:40:04.679
nine nine O three five eight eight
hundred six nine nine O three five eight.

489
00:40:04.760 --> 00:40:08.440
That's eight hundred six nine nine zero
three fifty eight. If you're living

490
00:40:08.440 --> 00:40:13.800
with diabetes and using insulin, you
know the pain of pricking your fingers over

491
00:40:13.920 --> 00:40:17.880
and over again ouch well. By
wearing a small remote device called a continuous

492
00:40:17.880 --> 00:40:23.320
glucose monitor or CGM, you can
reduce the pain of pricking your fingers if

493
00:40:23.320 --> 00:40:28.519
you administer insulin three or more times
per day or use in insulin pump.

494
00:40:28.599 --> 00:40:32.400
Call now and learn how a CGM
can help you anless no more pricking my

495
00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:37.719
finger now finger pricks convenience, They
delivered it free and they took care of

496
00:40:37.800 --> 00:40:40.920
all the paperwork. You can reduce
pain right away. Plus, it's accurate,

497
00:40:42.039 --> 00:40:45.239
easy to use, and helps you
spend more time in range. And

498
00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:49.559
if you have insurance, you can
get a new CGM at little or no

499
00:40:49.760 --> 00:40:52.599
out of pocket cost. Call now
and at free shipping of your new CGM,

500
00:40:52.639 --> 00:40:57.440
plus will build your insurance for you. Eight hundred eight two three nine

501
00:40:57.480 --> 00:41:01.280
eight five three, eight hundred eight
two nine eight five three, eight hundred

502
00:41:01.360 --> 00:41:06.920
eight two three nine eight five three. That's eight hundred eight two three ninety

503
00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:24.239
eight fifty three. And we're back
with your Bill Martinez here with doctor Michael

504
00:41:24.280 --> 00:41:29.920
Reuben nineteen forty five, contributing editor, senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute,

505
00:41:30.199 --> 00:41:34.000
and former Pentagon official. You know, when we talk national security,

506
00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:39.639
there's so many moving arts that protect
and ensure our national security. Whether it's

507
00:41:39.639 --> 00:41:45.239
our southern border, whether it's thirty
two trillion dollars in counting in national debt,

508
00:41:45.559 --> 00:41:52.000
it goes on and on. Not
to mention these factions around the world

509
00:41:52.039 --> 00:41:54.800
that are causing problems. Michael,
I do want to talk about Israel in

510
00:41:54.840 --> 00:42:01.039
Iran, but before we do,
to me, the closest emerging threat is

511
00:42:01.039 --> 00:42:06.840
what's happening at our southern border.
I absolutely agree. You know, I

512
00:42:06.920 --> 00:42:13.679
once asked a very senior administration official
in a previous administration what kept him up

513
00:42:13.719 --> 00:42:17.320
at night, and his answer was
state failure in Mexico. And the fact

514
00:42:17.360 --> 00:42:23.840
of the matter is the cartels are
a cancer inside of those societies. And

515
00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:30.239
I don't think the United States fully
imagines not what the situation might look like

516
00:42:30.719 --> 00:42:34.039
a year from now, but what
it might look like ten years from now.

517
00:42:34.360 --> 00:42:38.320
Put another way, we have people
flooding across our border on one hand

518
00:42:38.360 --> 00:42:44.039
for economic opportunity, on the other
hand, because they say they're fleeing violence,

519
00:42:44.320 --> 00:42:47.840
their governments their home states have collapsed. Well, what are we doing

520
00:42:47.880 --> 00:42:52.840
to reverse those collapse? Because a
cancer left untreated is only going to spread.

521
00:42:53.960 --> 00:42:57.679
And of course they're coming across the
border. They got hooks, they

522
00:42:57.760 --> 00:43:00.880
got cartel hooks in them, Michael. And this is the thing, you

523
00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:04.559
know, we've been shouting from the
rooftops about this. You know, I

524
00:43:04.599 --> 00:43:10.000
was looking at a map that was
showing where the cartel was operating in just

525
00:43:10.079 --> 00:43:14.320
about every state of the Union.
I think about eight states they're not in.

526
00:43:14.400 --> 00:43:15.880
But I think it's a matter of
as I'm before, they're in every

527
00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:22.159
state of the Union. So they
have an infrastructure to produce a specific outcome,

528
00:43:22.519 --> 00:43:29.960
and they're operating with near impunity.
Michael. I think you're absolutely correct

529
00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:32.400
on that. Again, there's no
way to really add to that. It's

530
00:43:32.440 --> 00:43:38.239
a major threat and we're looking the
other way. And so here it is

531
00:43:38.840 --> 00:43:43.159
as you say, I mean,
we've got danger right now. In ten

532
00:43:43.239 --> 00:43:46.000
years from now, what's it going
to be like. There's a movie that

533
00:43:46.639 --> 00:43:52.920
just came out over the holiday called
Sound of Freedom, which is about human

534
00:43:52.960 --> 00:44:00.639
trafficking and a federal agent who did
as much as he could while he was

535
00:44:00.719 --> 00:44:06.559
with the Department of Homeland Security in
saving kids from human trafficking, and he

536
00:44:06.679 --> 00:44:10.599
ended up resigning his job to start
his own, his own organization to go

537
00:44:10.679 --> 00:44:15.840
out and save you know, hundreds, if not thousands of kids who have

538
00:44:15.039 --> 00:44:20.519
been abducted. And you know,
and we see and talk about and we

539
00:44:20.559 --> 00:44:22.840
think, oh, well, that's
happening in Honduras, or that's happening in

540
00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:25.039
Colombia. No, it's happening in
the United States. I think, Jim

541
00:44:25.119 --> 00:44:29.079
Caviezel said, the United States is, like, I don't know, the

542
00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:35.840
top two, top three countries involved
in human sex trafficking, and many of

543
00:44:35.880 --> 00:44:38.760
them. I think one out of
four of the human humans that are sex

544
00:44:38.800 --> 00:44:44.079
traffic are children. Michael, Well, you know, I haven't seen the

545
00:44:44.119 --> 00:44:45.800
movie yet. I heard about it, and I heard it was based on

546
00:44:46.239 --> 00:44:51.199
a true story. What's actually interesting
to me, beyond what you just said,

547
00:44:51.880 --> 00:44:54.199
is that this movie, which was
done on an extremely low budget,

548
00:44:54.840 --> 00:44:59.880
managed to supplant and knock out of
the number one position in the box office

549
00:45:00.320 --> 00:45:05.880
the latest Indiana Jones movie. And
that symbolizes how the American public and the

550
00:45:06.559 --> 00:45:10.639
focus of the American public, the
appetite of the American public for truth,

551
00:45:10.679 --> 00:45:16.400
for addressing problems head on, is
different than what Hollywood wants to impose in

552
00:45:16.519 --> 00:45:22.000
terms of ideological indoctrination. What it's
like you said earlier, Michael, We've

553
00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:25.119
got to be serious about these things. There is a lack of curiosity,

554
00:45:25.320 --> 00:45:30.280
a lack of seriousness. And you
know, the other thing we've been talking

555
00:45:30.320 --> 00:45:34.239
about is part of the reason that
whether we're talking about fentonol or we're talking

556
00:45:34.280 --> 00:45:37.559
about human sex trafficking, is that
we need to admit that here in the

557
00:45:37.639 --> 00:45:43.039
United States, we've got trouble here
in River City, that we're consumers for

558
00:45:43.079 --> 00:45:46.840
this junk, and because we're consumers
for this junk, they keep selling it

559
00:45:46.880 --> 00:45:52.239
to us. I think you're absolutely
right, And on one hand, you're

560
00:45:52.280 --> 00:45:58.159
absolutely right. On the other hand, a number of corporations are starting to

561
00:45:58.199 --> 00:46:02.400
wake up to the fact that the
American public's appetite for having various ideologies and

562
00:46:02.519 --> 00:46:07.039
things imposed on us is stepping back. You know, it's July. June's

563
00:46:07.079 --> 00:46:10.719
pride month is over. I have
a modest proposal. Let's get rid of

564
00:46:10.760 --> 00:46:15.239
all these months. Yes, And
the fact of the matter is we're all

565
00:46:15.280 --> 00:46:20.320
Americans. I tend to be a
social libertarian to each his own. We're

566
00:46:20.360 --> 00:46:24.440
a tapestry that makes the country better
together. But that doesn't mean that we

567
00:46:24.519 --> 00:46:31.239
have to be engaging in sort of
exercises which divide, exactly, and that's

568
00:46:31.280 --> 00:46:36.039
what it does. It divides,
it doesn't united. You're exactly right,

569
00:46:36.280 --> 00:46:38.119
I mean to me, you know
when you said that, I'm thinking affirmative

570
00:46:38.159 --> 00:46:42.039
action. You know, let's get
rid of it. Let's level the playing

571
00:46:42.079 --> 00:46:45.039
field for everybody. You know,
every day can be a holiday if you're

572
00:46:45.039 --> 00:46:47.679
an American, you know here in
this country, why not? Right,

573
00:46:49.760 --> 00:46:51.840
Well, I think you're absolutely right. I mean, the irony of the

574
00:46:51.880 --> 00:46:57.559
affirmative action issue is that most African
Americans, most Hispanics, most Asians,

575
00:46:57.880 --> 00:47:01.719
most minorities disagree with affirmative action.
They want to be merit based. It

576
00:47:01.760 --> 00:47:07.920
reminds me of a whole Latin X
controversy where when Latinos were pulled on this,

577
00:47:08.679 --> 00:47:12.719
I think two percent were in favor
of the term, and yet we're

578
00:47:12.760 --> 00:47:15.920
trying to impose it on people.
I mean, we've got to stop this

579
00:47:15.039 --> 00:47:19.840
nonsense exactly. Well, two percent
maybe in favor, but I'll tell you

580
00:47:19.840 --> 00:47:22.800
the other ninety eight percent, Michael, not happy at all, No bueno

581
00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:27.800
whatsoever. I mean, they were
upset and insulted, and rightfully so.

582
00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:31.280
And that's why it went away so
quickly. You know, you're you're absolutely

583
00:47:31.360 --> 00:47:35.199
right. Well, look, it
corrupts the culture. I mean the culture.

584
00:47:36.280 --> 00:47:38.760
I mean, sometimes languages have gender, sometimes they don't. The fact

585
00:47:38.840 --> 00:47:43.039
of the matter is, it's what
makes us richer. Yeah, without a

586
00:47:43.079 --> 00:47:45.239
doubt, Michael. You know,
for me, and you know, we've

587
00:47:45.280 --> 00:47:49.199
talked about this for a long time. When I think of the Middle East,

588
00:47:49.360 --> 00:47:52.679
I think of Israel. It liked
it or not, Israel is the

589
00:47:52.719 --> 00:47:55.480
center. To me, that is
the focus. I look at it in

590
00:47:55.599 --> 00:48:00.960
terms of, you know, according
to God's prophetic clock, Israel is where

591
00:48:01.400 --> 00:48:06.639
God's clock is at. So I
look at what's happening in Israel and how

592
00:48:06.679 --> 00:48:10.639
that's affecting the Middle East. And
right now you've got Iran again, saber

593
00:48:10.719 --> 00:48:14.559
rattling. Well, they're more than
that. I mean they're rattling you know,

594
00:48:14.840 --> 00:48:19.000
nuclear options here, and you and
I had this conversation a couple of

595
00:48:19.079 --> 00:48:22.360
years back, and at the time, Israel was going to have to rely

596
00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:29.880
on one Barack Obama to help them
to do something about these nuclear centrifuges that

597
00:48:29.920 --> 00:48:34.280
were building up in Iran. But
I don't think Israel's going to wait anymore,

598
00:48:34.360 --> 00:48:38.079
do you. I don't think Israel
can truly wait or rely on the

599
00:48:38.199 --> 00:48:43.280
United States. You know, some
analysts say, well, if Iran gets

600
00:48:43.280 --> 00:48:47.239
twenty kilograms of ninety percent enriched highly
enriched geranium, they could build a bomb.

601
00:48:47.480 --> 00:48:52.360
Let's not forget that at Hiroshima the
bomb was only around seventy five to

602
00:48:52.440 --> 00:48:55.760
eighty percent enrich. We can't start, I mean, we can't force ourselves

603
00:48:57.039 --> 00:49:01.000
to assume that the perfect is going
to be the outcome, rather than from

604
00:49:01.000 --> 00:49:06.519
the Iranian standpoint, the good.
We're vulnerable to dirty bombs right now.

605
00:49:06.800 --> 00:49:10.159
The Iranian problem isn't going away.
And you know, a year ago we

606
00:49:10.159 --> 00:49:14.119
were talking about, or almost a
year ago, we were talking about the

607
00:49:14.119 --> 00:49:19.239
protests across Iran. The fact of
the matter is they're saber rattling because they're

608
00:49:19.239 --> 00:49:23.320
afraid of what might happen domestically.
And this is the same sort of concern,

609
00:49:23.840 --> 00:49:28.000
same pattern we see in Iran that
we've seen in Russia, and we

610
00:49:28.039 --> 00:49:31.000
see in China. We need to
be very worried right now. Perfectly Well,

611
00:49:31.039 --> 00:49:34.719
Michael, I cannot thank you enough
for coming on the show. I

612
00:49:34.760 --> 00:49:38.079
always appreciate your insight and being able
to kind of give us a lesson as

613
00:49:38.079 --> 00:49:43.599
to what's happening on a national security
level. And you know, I appreciate

614
00:49:43.679 --> 00:49:46.880
your candor and certainly your experience because
you bring a lot to bear on this

615
00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:51.880
topic, and I know our audience
is blessed for your time. I appreciate

616
00:49:51.880 --> 00:49:55.119
it. Thank you, sir,
Thank you, Bill Well. Doctor Michael

617
00:49:55.280 --> 00:50:00.440
Rubin has been our guest, the
nineteen forty five contributing editor, senior fellow

618
00:50:00.599 --> 00:50:06.039
at the American Enterprise Institute, and
former Pentagon official. Thank you, Michael

619
00:50:06.079 --> 00:50:08.559
Reuben. Thank you ladies and gentlemen
for sharing a part of your day with

620
00:50:08.679 --> 00:50:14.199
us, and we look forward to
getting together once again as we continue to

621
00:50:14.239 --> 00:50:19.159
pursue the truth, no matter where
it leads. May God bless you and

622
00:50:19.239 --> 00:50:22.280
keep you, and make His face
shine upon you, go and be blessed

623
00:50:22.320 --> 00:50:24.000
beyond your imagination. Thank you for
being with us,