Bill Martinez Live
Dec. 17, 2025

The Bill Martinez Show 12 17 25

The Bill Martinez Show 12 17 25
The Bill Martinez Show 12 17 25
Bill Martinez Live
The Bill Martinez Show 12 17 25
The Bill Martinez Show 12 17 25
Transcript

0:00 Are you ready? Yeah, Okay, let's do it. Ill Martinez Live a program about current events, our culture, our values, our politics, and our future. And now Bill Martinez's. Let's go. Hey, good morning, Welcome Bill Martinez here with the infamous John O'Connor, the author of Postgate, How the Washington Post betrayed Deep Throat, covered up Watergate, and began today's partisan advocacy journalism. John, good morning, How are you good? Good? Yeah, yeah, just sailing along here.

0:41 Okay, Well, I'll tell you. You know, you talk about today's partisan advocacy journalism, it's on steroids, John. Well, it is when you think about it. Barack Obama literally sent out dropped three thousand and seven or ninety seven bombs while he was in office, and about eight hundred drone strikes killing thousands of people. And of course he's just a wonderful guy. Should get the Dobel Peace Prize, right, you know, Trump is you know, he sent out about ten bombings of boats, you know, fairly surgical strikes on drug boats, and now he's getting pillared, and of course he should be impeached. So it all makes sense. That's why I wrote the book Postgate was because it's it's a template and show how the media can gin up a controversy or it can hide a controversy. Did both during water Gate, A ginned up one and hit another.

1:43 And that's what we're seeing today. Yeah. Well, Donald Trump is the is the mainstream media's pinata, and they just you know, just keep on flying, even though you know they'll show up in the Oval office and he'll call him out and embarrass them. You know, they have no shame, John. That's right. And they've learned that anytime there is a criticism of them, they can put it off to just these crazy right wingers, you know, and it's you know, they wear it as a badge of honor. You know, it's the it's these conservatives are doing this. And look at this terrible, terrible president. And as they say on television, boy, he's just the way he treats people. He treats people so badly. Isn't that terrible? And oh, by the way, he's hitler, Yes, and he's the worst guy that ever hed the But he's so terrible. When he calls somebody miss piggy, that's terrible. Of course it's not. It's not polite.

2:42 I would agree with them on that. But the point is the difference between Trump's sort of regular, regular guy in a bar rhetoric, which in the rhetoric which falls him criminal or even worse, a terrorist and a mass murderer. I don't think those two things are parallel. Well, of course, of course not. Yeah, unless you're aching for bacon, you're not going to kill miss Piggy. But Adolf Hitler a whole nother case. And look what they've done with ice ice right now, the attacks are at over twelve hundred percent increase. And you got a knut that goes all the way across country and shoots two National guardsmen in the head. That you got a knucklehead congressman going, oh, it was just an incident, you know, it was what I.

3:40 Mean, help, I think he said it was an accident. Right, yeah, that was one of the terms he used. And I mean, how how disconnected can you be? I mean it's like at that point, you know, we need to put a bag over your head and walk you out of the room. You know you're no longer relevant. Well, I think if you put this whole thing, it gives a lands through which a lot of recent history can be viewed, for instance, the George Floyd riots over hundreds of cities, which caused many deaths and of course the loss of businesses of many hardworking middle class people, many minorities. And by the way, yeah, those are mostly peaceful protests, of course, and they're they're the These riots are the language of the unheard. These folks are rioting because they're just so oppressed and suppressed, and of course they've all got nice new tactical gear on and somebody is paying for them to come into town. But it's just a spontaneous upwelling of the oppressed that we're a mostly peaceful protest turns in amazingly and unexpectedly into a riot.

4:56 But that's the way that's portrayed. My point is that's the way that portrayed who you know, to the and a half the country kind of goes along with that because they've been told that by reputable people. And this is the disease and this is the problem. I mean, look, Europe is full of intelligent people, and we were watching their slow motion suicide exactly. We're just not far behind. We happen to have a good, hearty stock of people who aren't as decadent as those in Europe, and we're kind of trying to stop this slow motion suicide. But it really is a civilizational crisis. We're in the way things are viewed. If we view things correctly and honestly and forthrightly and have honest debate, We're not all going to agree perfectly, but have honest debate, we'll be fine.

5:53 But that's not what's happening. No, without a doubt. Well, you know, they've been canceling voices and people, you know for the last decade. And as you say, you watch what's going on in Europe. I mean right now England is being brought to its knees with thousands of tractors having a siege work there around the government right because they want to overtax them. And and what is it over immigration? And it's like, oh where else is that happening here in the United States? Maybe, I mean, do we not? Is the next step? We're gonna start seeing farmers siege working Washington, d C. Well, and it's interesting that Trump can be hit now as people are trying to hit them on affordability. Uh.

6:42 And my point here is that that may have something to do just a tad to do with the open borders we've had in the last four years. You think, which have cost us tremendously. That money has to come from someplace. It causes inflation. Think about it. It's it's not just there's one hundred and fifty billion in direct benefits from federal programs. But there's far more cost to this than just those direct benefits from emergency rooms to everything else. So when you're getting down into it, you know, how much is when you go out and you buy a Hamburg or how much of that is really you're spending, is really for illegal immigration?

7:24 Well, and look what's happening in Minnesota, John, I mean, that's disgusting, billions of dollars. And then you find out a lot of this money, I mean, it's like Black Lives Matter all over again. They get all this government assistance and next thing, you know, which is typical. You know, the leadership goes out buys fancy cars and houses and ingratiates themselves and meanwhile the people that the money was intended for, they're left on the street, still begging for food. That's right, and that's played out of course all over the place, often legally. When you look at nonprofits that are just so concerned about the public interest. But of course, before the money gets out to whatever it is they're spending it on. You know, people are making oh, just a reasonable amount, four hundred thousand for the leader, in three hundred and fifty thousand for the vice leader, and so forth and so on, and then they go to conferences at nice places. You know, Cabos on Lucas is a good place for a conference to talk about poverty, and our money's going there and so forth. So yeah, yeah, that's that's the situation we're in. And are we really helping poor people? Know we're not, and so I just what we are doing, just does it make sense?

8:43 Well, meanwhile, the taxpayers getting fleeced and being asked for more, and meanwhile our national debt is thirty eight trillion in counting John O'Connor. Well that's right. And then what happens is is when Trump left office in twenty twenty, we're paying three one hundred billion a year as interest on our national debt up through T bills and so forth and so on. And now just yesterday I think it was one point one three trillion a year exactly. We got to go to quick break. Let's go to quick break. We'll pick it up. We got more from John O'Connor on the other side. Stay with us ladies and gentlemen. So you need less many gifts, no judgment. Get an extra twenty five percent off during Cole's Friends and Family sale and find great gifts under twenty dollars Like something cozy, something thoughtful, something that says you plan this all alone. Yep, you're just one quick trip away from checking off the last gifts on your list. Save now at Colesandcoals dot com.

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14:43 And the interest payment on our debt alone is has already exceeded what we pay for the military. That's right, that's right. So that is and that constantly redoubles because we're now paying interest on interest and we are getting sinking farther in the whole things are getting less affordable. Now, what happens if we pry the remedies of the collectivists, the progressives like Mandami, where government's supposed to give more free stuff that is not economically advisable, it's going to sink us into more debt. We got into this problem by having the government try to provide too many things. We have eighty different programs right now giving benefits out to people, eighty that are just out of control. They're on autopilot. That's part of the lesson of this Somali thing in Minnesota. It's very hard to government.

15:42 People are not here's the basis, and you and I would agree with this bill. People are best when they're spending their own money. They take care of Aristotle said in response to Plato's collectivism, he said, the problem with your collectivism, Plato is this man treasures most dearly that which he calls mind. Right now, we have money being spent by politicians, nonprofits, governments. People are spending other people's money, and then it goes to people who didn't earn that money and they do not value it, and so all along we are losing the tether between you know, benefit and work, and that's not good for society. Milton Friedman said that when people when we allowed unfettered immigration in the United States, there was a difference back then because you got no benefits when you came in. When somebody came here, it was so that they could get a job, so they could work, so they could advance themselves, and that made the company the country stronger. But once you come in and that is freighted with benefits, now the system just doesn't make sense. Now you have to control that, because otherwise you're just giving away free things, you're encouraging that.

17:04 And so we've got ourselves in a bad hole here. Bill is you and I I think agreed right. Without a doubt. Well, the issue of self responsibility, it's key. It's foundational to our founding documents. The other thing John and I've asked several top economists in the country about this is the thirty eight trillion dollars that were in debt. How much is tied to political favor how much is tied to buying votes? And one economist said probably all of it. Bill, to be honest with you, and I said, that's the problem that we have this money that's being spent. It's not in earnestness to really solve a problem. It's to get bureaucrats reelected. That's right. That's of course all the Climate Bill was, which was the aptly named Inflation Reduction Act, and Biden went out and said, this was really a climate bill.

17:52 I shouldn't even call it that. It's really about climate because I'm such a climate guy. But then if you look at the expenditures for climate, you know all they are is poor. You know, that's all is. It doesn't do any good for anybody. And then and of course, to the extent you're subsidizing something, it means that whatever you're subsidizing is non economically viable itself. Yeah, Obamacare, Obamacare for example. Right, Well, that's right, And my point about yeah, exactly exactly, that's going to cut our costs. Right, We're gonna have a big government program, you see, but it's going to cut our costs now, ten years later, whenever it is now, all of a sudden, we have to subsidize it. Well, wait a second, I what is that. I thought you said this would cut our costs, not that we have to have these massive subsidies that we're paying for. You didn't tell us that. Yes, but it's too late now, isn't it. We've hooked you. We've hooked you in by fooling you that this would be good for you. It's not good for you, and it is not good for the regular taxpayer. It is good perhaps perhaps on the margins.

19:03 It's good for someone who doesn't have insurance, but they were getting care anyway, they were going to emergency rooms and so forth. But now we're making the cost of insurance higher, and we're really straining state budgets who have to you know, provide some support for the medicaid. Well, if Obamacare were so good, why didn't Congress take it. Absolutely? And why would Obama accept the unions from it? His supporters and the unions because they don't want it, because they know it's nothing. So all you're doing is taking those people out there. Will call them suckers, and that's what they are, is the suckers that these politicians are really fleecing. They're you and I, Bill, and people who are you know, listening to this program, watching this program.

19:57 We're the suckers, and we're fleeced by either of the the politicians who are getting rich on K Street and their nonprofits. And maybe there are some people, to be fair, maybe there's some people that are you know, blamelessly indigen and so forth. But even at that, even the benefits for these programs are often you know, riddled by you know, by clever people. And who are you saying, Hey, you're handing out something free. I'm going to try to get as much of that free stuff as I can, even if I have to do so fraudulently. There's so much fraud. Everybody acknowledges that there's so much fraud in these programs because it looks.

20:39 But look what happens. You get Elon Musk to come in in his DOGE team and saying, look it, I think we could find a trillion. I think they could end up finding two trillion dollars of fraud and waste. But well, my goodness, the Democrats just went apoplectic. You know, they were in the fetal position, yelling and screaming, and everybody was a Nazi, and you know, death's on Trump and on Elon Musk. And then they do polling on it in about the thirty percent of the people said, yeah, I don't see a problem in assassinating the president or Elon Musk. I mean, that's how crazy this guy. Yeah, oh yeah, sure, no kings. We don't want a king. I don't. I'm not so sure why Elon Musk was a king, but no kings. And then of course, because he tried to cut waste in government, we should go out and we should destroy all tesla's. Yes, I think tesla's from my review in Marine County here, I think they're safe and sound. Again, you can still drive one around but nonetheless, think about that one. What a reaction to the notion that there's fraud and waste in a bruce and abuse in government. And of course that's interesting because that's always been the mantra of the left. Oh yeah, maybe the debt's getting high, but there's fraud and waste in abuse by all these right wingers out there. Well, okay, let's cut out fraud, waste and abuse. But that doesn't

22:09 seem to resonate when somebody really does something about it. Yeah, because that's reelection money, John. You see, you got to follow the money and you see what's going on, and that money is going back. It's what makes the wheels on the bus go round and round, it goes out, and part of that is the elected bureaucrats they get their vig I mean, this is money laundering, is what it boils down to. Sure, we talked about the nonprofits. The nonprofits often are a scam because they're directly connected to government. They get money from government, they then support the politicians and the money is just re routed. There was that congress person from California who did that.

22:53 She was a. Nonprofit person, the one who got caught up in the sex scandals. But that's how she came to power, was by using nonprofits money gathering them, and she was the one who was paying off the politicians. And finally she gets in office, then she gets money from the nonprofits, and that money doesn't really go anywhere. The amount of payoff at the end of the of the cycle, when the nonprofit pays for its offices and its people and so forth and so on, just is not a good way of dealing with things. Well, when you talk about administrative costs, we got less than a minute left here, John, You talk about administrative even the Red Cross, I think their administrative costs are something like twenty five percent. There's a lot of other you know companies that you know, go anywhere from three to five percent administrative costs. I would dare say these government operated so called you know entities, their administrative cost if you really did an audit on them, I bet it's over three.

24:01 If not more. What's interesting is is that in some nonprofits, such as the Clinton Foundation, they were originally criticized because they gave out none of their money to actually these things called charities, or they didn't give out money to charitable use, and they said, well, you don't understand we are so valuable. We're taking our wonderful people like John Podesta and so forth, and we're giving conferences all around the country and we're helping people out. That's what we're doing. So actually, when you really get down to it, the Clinton Foundation was one big administrative costs. They didn't give out any money at all, or still don't. They have conferences, and what they it is it houses political operatives who are performing political acts and so forth, and there's gravy then that they seek and then hopefully they'll go get some contract that will make them a fortune.

25:00 While they're like buzzards. They see where the money's gone, where the government money is gone, and they're there, whether it's in Haiti or any other third world country that they can get their claws into. You watch how the Clinton Foundation works, and that's exactly what they do. John, We got to leave it there. John O'Connor, the outher of Postgate. John is always appreciate the time. Thank you for being with us. I've been with you. Bill. Do you have Medicare and do you use a seapap machine. This is a National Healthcare alert regarding your SEAPAP supplies. Using a clean SEAPAP mask and clean supplies is important to staying healthy. The best way to make sure your SEAPAP equipment is clean is to get new supplies. If you have Medicare, we have great news.

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29:53 Jennybeth, Yeah, I would agree with that, Bill, And it's in America, and it's it is rising around the entire higher world. We saw it. I think first we realized just how bad the problem was on October seventh, over two years ago. And then just this past Sunday in Australia, as Jewish people are celebrating Hanukkah on a beach, being just shot and viciously murdered in a horrific, horrific terrorist attack. But it's not just the terrorist attacks that are the problem. We are seeing this rise of anti Semitism on both the left and the right, and we have to be able to call that out and say this is wrong.

30:41 It doesn't matter what your other political beliefs are. As Americans, there are some things we're just going to say is wrong and we don't stand for and racism. We have to take a stand against racism. We have to take a stand against anti semitism, and sadly, I think we also have to take a stand against political violence. And as Americans, I think ninety eight percent of us agree on these, but we have to make sure we're calling it out well. The ninety eight percent must take a stand on this. Jenny Beth, I think this is part of the problem. You know, as you said October seventh, you know that's. Over there kind of there, you know, and then you had this this rising.

31:23 Already, this anti semitism has been going on for decades, but it just seems like now for somehow. I mean, when you've got kids on college campuses, you know, screaming from the river to the sea, this whole Palestinian issue, the accommodation of this all in the in all under the guise of our First Amendment right and free speech. I mean, all this rhetoric and as you say, even the lack of civility in terms of language that is spoken in the political realm. This is all very dangerous. I mean, we're just we're like lighting bonfire fires here all over the place, and sooner or later somebody's gonna throw a kerosene on this thing, and this is going to get out of hand if it hasn't ready. Yeah, I think that you're right, and I would say that the people in Australia and in Israel think it already is out of hand, and people within the Turning Point USA organization think it is as well. Not because of anti Semitism, but because of political violence.

32:22 Bill. Anti Semitism, to be sure, has been rising on the left, and we've seen that play out most clear the clearest example would be on college campuses. But we are seeing this happen on the right as well, and we have to be able to stand up against it on the right. And what I think that the way. It's manifesting on the right is that we have people who say they are America first, and then they blame all of the world's problems on Israel. And then they or they'll. Say they're just asking questions. And you can't blame all the world's problems on a on a single country. You can't blame all the world's problems on one certain kind of people of a certain religion.

33:07 It just simply it is wrong, and we have to be able to call that out as well. Well. It is surprising because you think the people on the right particularly and you find them a little squishy right now in all areas political everything is like they're letting loose of the things that got them elected. You know, because they were pretty determined when Donald Trump got re elected, and most on a scale of one to the right, you know what I'm saying. You know, not that they were one hundred percent, but they were definitely a little bit more defined. And now all of a sudden they get squishy. And that's unfortunate because that opens the door, as you say, to some of these creative ideas and some of these things they maybe they've been saying it in the back room, not real loud, but now it's starting to come out and you're exactly right. You know, they need to be called on this for all the right reasons, and that is that if we're going to be effective, we have to be unified. And also we got to be clear on these things that you know, promotes civility, that promote.

34:10 Righteousness in our in our country. And this is the problem that we have right now, is that there's a lot of evil that's flying around that's being accommodated, and you can point it out and call it out. I mean, gosh, we go we get somebody, you know what, we have bomb makers that are going to you know, set up a campaign over New Years in Los Angeles and they got what they They arrested four people. I go, four people? Are you are you kidding me? This is I mean, they had they were rather sophisticated in their plans. There's an infrastructure that's a lot deeper than four people. I know the FBI knows this, but don't think that just because they got four people that it's done right.

34:51 That's right, That's exactly right. So I think that what we need to think about is what can we do about it? And we're not going to be able to single handily as individuals stop terrorist attacks. In most cases, clearly a man in. Australia was able to do that and was willing to risk his life for the life of others. But we can make a difference. We can call it out when we see things that are wrong. We can remind people what anti Semitism is and that it is wrong. And we need to keep going back to our foundational principles. And for you and I that that comes from very clear sources. It comes from from our founding documents, the Decoration of Independence, the Constitution, federalist papers, and also it comes from the Bible. And we can look at the Bible and lean on God to understand that we there are certain moral truths and we have to be able to stand up for those. And we can look at our founding documents which acknowledge that our rights come from God, and look at those documents to know what stances we should be taking politically. And I think if we we we need to turn down the influencers and the social media just a little bit and turn up going back to the foundational documents, turn up going back and doing devotionals each day, reading the Bible, studying the Constitution, take Hillsdale's Constitution one in one course, making sure that we

36:25 are seeped in those seeped rather in those very foundational principles. And we have to remember also that we cannot call our. Fellow Americans names that wind up dehumanizing them. And I think that that is one of the biggest things that we have to remember when we're getting on in the figurative wars on social media, the battles back and forth. You don't group all people together and lump them together and call them names that dehumanize. And remember that there are fellow Americans. And if we don't agree on everything, we should be able to walk away from a disagreement agreeing that we love this country and we love them as a fellow American, even if we disagree with their political stances.

37:11 And we need disagreement, this is what makes us a better country. But we also need to know the difference between somebody who is disagreeing we maybe disagree on how to get there, versus somebody who wants to destroy the very thing that we love. That that is right. And when we're seeing and I think that we are, we are seeing some people who want to destroy the very thing that we love. And I think that we have seen immigrants who have come into this country who were not fully vetted. We're not vetted the way they were supposed to be, who have no intention of assimilating. And those people who want to destroy America and want to harm Americans and are willing to commit vicious, heinous.

37:55 Crimes that do harm Americans. They need to be deport they need to be out of our country. There's no place in America for that. And more American citizens and those who are immigrants who are here lawfully. None of us deserve to have those kind of crimes committed against us because of people who are unwilling to obey our laws. Yeah, and look what's happening, Jenny Beth. I mean the people who are being radicalized. I mean they say, well they were radicalized here in No, they came in with a level of radicalization because look where they came from. They came from countries that were lawless. What did you expect all of a sudden they were going to come to America and be law abiding.

38:36 Well, especially not when the first act in our country is breaking our law. We're telling them it's okay to not follow the law and that's completely unacceptable, and that happened throughout the entirety of the Biden administration. Thankfully, President Trump has that under control now at the border, but we still have this massive issue with the people who entered unlawfully, and. It starts with leaders Leadership has to has to project that change and that new standard here in America that is win win for all concerned. Right, that is exactly right. And I think that we see that kind of leadership with President Trump, and. We see it with we see it with people on both sides of the aisle.

39:20 We could say that we see that with John Fetterman. He is certainly a leader in trying to help Americans see we can have political disagreements and also still treat each other with the respect we deserve as fellow Americans. And there are other politicians on the right as well who do that. But we we need to look for those leaders, and we need to be those leaders ourselves. We may never be president of the United States, but we all can be a leader in our own circle of influence, and we need to do so, and we need to lead by example. And that doesn't mean we're not gonna we're gonna send. We're going to make a mistakes, We're going to fall, but then you get back up, you acknowledge it, you'll learn from it, and you keep striving to do better.

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45:46 Right. It's a really good point for people to remember, and of course people who are in these receiving communities they don't need reminders. But you know, the border has more or less been shut down as far as illegal immigration goes, but we still have millions of people, people who were released into the country, who were not admissible into the country, and we still have to deal with them and the ramifications of them. They need they need food. And shelter, and they're looking for work, often illegal work. They need the raw materials that it takes to support a life in the United States. It's a tremendous burden on the local communities and we're still sifting through that, and all of that is really, frankly a distraction from the long term picture, which is, how do we set our immigration limits at a level that we can sustain and feel very good about the people that we are admitting and the fact that they've been vetted and that we can handle. We can handle the inflow. So it really does for us. It comes down to the numbers, and that is a big question.

46:46 Yeah, you know, you and I can sit in with our audience and talk reasonably about this and say, okay, what's the ideal. But yet there's such an aggressive faction out there that doesn't want to sit down and talk about this stuff. All they want to do. Is complain and be agitators on this whole issue and not arrive at any kind of solution, but yet act like they're somehow trying to capture the higher ground. On these issues. It's very frustrating. It is frustrating. I'm optimistic. It's December. I'm optimistic. You know, the Biden administration had this attitude. This was reported recently in the New York Times that you know, the New York Times bombshell story that said the Biden administration messed up immigration.

47:27 Right, Oh my god. It's a newsflash. But it's a pretty in depth reporting and it shows, among other things, that at its core, it wasn't just incompetence, although there was some incompetence, there was a belief system, a belief structure inside the administration that really felt at its core that borders were illegitimate, that immigration limits were immoral, and they just they just didn't feel good about enforcing the law or setting any kind of limits. And so we had we had an administration and an immigration system for four years whose idea was our job is to let in as many people as possible, because that's the right thing to do. That was that was sort of at the heart of it.

48:12 And the problem, of course is you and I know, and as the country discovered, is that the demand to get into the United States far outstrips our capacity. But they knew that beforehand, Jeremy, I mean, how many how many people? How many millions of people? I think it was a survey years ago they took said how many people would want to come to the United States. I mean it's overwhelming. I mean so it's like, what were they thinking. Listen, you don't Yeah, you don't have to convince me. I mean, this is how bad it was. In the In the Biden administration, you had the former vice president of Larraza, which is basically an open borders organization, advising the President that his policies had gone too far towards open borders. I mean she, you know, Celia Munos, who was you know, a major thorn on the side of restrictionists over the years. She works in the Obama administration, but she she was one of the people raising the alarm saying we are going to we are going to be swamped with people and we're not.

49:07 Going to be able to handle it. There will be chaos, and this will have political ramifications as well as you know, ramifications for the interior of the country for Americans. It was her Her calls went unheeded, her warnings went unheard. Well, look at the communities that she represents, Jeremy. She knows the impact was going to be felt by these local communities immediately. I mean, it didn't take a genius to figure that out. But like you said, the fixed ideology of some of those that didn't care, or maybe they just felt like, hey, it's unfair. You know, we've been so blessed, you know, I mean, you get this, this white privileged attitude that has overwhelmed our country. It's causing people to make ridiculous decisions and conclusions here.

49:49 And that's fine. Look at if you feel guilty for any kind of white privilege and and that's what you want to have in your household. Hey, that's okay. But to force that ideology on the rest of America, I think seems to be imprudent. Well, imprudent is putting it kindly. It's misplaced compassion. But regardless of the motivations, I mean, I don't believe that the people inside the Biden administration were hoping to resurrect a child labor catastrophe that we hadn't seen since the days of Upton Sinclair's The Jungle, but they did. I don't think they meant to lose hundreds of thousands of kids and put them in the hands of sponsors, quote unquote sponsors, many of whom were here not related to them, human traffickers, but they did. I don't think they meant to swamp hospitals and schools and small towns with these burdens, but they did. I don't think they mean the purveyors of legal immigration, which we're going to talk about here.

50:50 I don't think they mean to rob the working class of five hundred billion dollars every year. But they do. That's what our legal system does on autopilot. Because those numbers are way too high. A lot of it is misplaced compassion. There of course is some greed involved. Some people do get wealthy off of mass immigration, and some people do gain power from mass immigration, and those two are obviously factors. But I think a lot of it, at least if you read this New York Times story the background, a lot of it was really just absolute and misplaced compassion. It was sort of leading with the heart, but just turning off the brain. And you know, when you turn off the brain, the heart can do some really awful things in the name of compassion.

51:30 Well, and the air thing too is just in our own humanity, we can be pretty squirrely. And as you said, you know when you talk about greed and power, whoa, those are two powerful agents, and people do that which they get rewarded for. And there was a system to reward this malbehavior and get us to this point. I mean, it's really so paradoxical. On so many ways, me because you know, you want, you want to think better of your fellow citizen, to think, well, why would you do something so diabolical. It's not even you know, really considerate of the immigrant. It's unfair, you know, It's like saying Okay, honey, we're going to have dinner tonight.

52:17 And how many people can we place around the table. Well, we've got seating for eight people. We can do eight. Oh, let's go ahead and let's invite thirty people over. Right, right? Yeah, and and you know some yeah, it's and somebody ends up having some indignity. Now maybe you know the the idea is that well, hey, no matter no matter how much of a of a just a poor, destitute, tough living conditions they have in America, many of them are going to be better off than they are in their home countries. But what you're doing is you're creating a permanent lower class in America, a permanent servant class. Really, It's true. It's true some people, especially their kids. This is a part of our immigrant tradition. You know, they rise up and over generations, you know, you build up, but you're constantly replacing them with this new almost indentured ser servitude class so that we can, you know, get our tables busted for poverty wages. It's it's a tough trade off to swallow, I.

53:14 Think, right. Well, and the other question is asked at the expense. Of who that's it The great economist George Borjas said, when it comes to immigration policy, the question is who are you rooting for? Uh? And this is this is the beginning of wisdom, which is that there is no magic number, there is no magic formula. The question is is who do you want to who do you want to benefit? Who gets the profits and who pays the costs. Mass immigration privatizes the profits and it socializes the costs. And the burden is especially held on the working class, the people who work with their hands and their feet, who are up upstanding upright all day. And the investment class tends to benefit the people, you know, frankly like me who are sitting in front of a computer, andeople who are collecting dividends in the stock market.

54:02 That's the class that that. Tends to benefit. You know, you don't You can do so much more important things with your life if you don't have to mow your own lawn or do your own dishes, or wash your own clothes, or watch your kids for that matter. And so the burden really does fall on the wage earners of society. And so the question is you know how many and how do you balance that immigration system? And one this came up. This is this is why I'm optimistic, is because we're not talking about whether or not we should just throw the borders wide open anymore right now. What we're talking about. As JD. Vance was asked at a recent Turning Points to the USA event, what about legal immigration? What what is the right number? And Advance, you know, what he said was, well, it's complicated because there is really no no specific number.

54:50 Depends on the factors you're looking at. That's the way Borhas would say, depends on who you're rooting for. What Vance said was it's got to be way, way lower. And I'll double down on that and just say that ever since mass immigration was restarted sixty years ago by the Immigration and Nationality Act of nineteen sixty five, inadvertently, by the way, it was a mistake, but it's a mistake that our policymakers have decided to keep. But ever since then, so. Many mistakes happened. During the Lyndon Baines Johnson by the way, anyway go ahead. That one's going to be up there. So commission after commission through the latter half of the twentieth century studied this for years. These are blue ribbon federal bipartisan commission studied these things for years and they came up with numbers and they basically said, those commissions recommended annual immigration limits between three hundred and fifty thousand and five hundred and fifty thousand a year. That's a lot of people. That's very that's a very generous policy.

55:48 In fact, it's more. Yeah, it's more than we're coming during the middle of the twentieth century, so it was kind of an increase over our recent tradition. It's but it's more than half. I mean, it's less than half of what. We have to do exactly. That shows just how far out of whack we are right now. And so as you and I are constantly talking about just systems being overwhelmed, well, these things are happening because we are running more than double the rate recommended by every commission that has studied this. They've come up with very similar recommendations. And by the way, the breakdown is and this is where it gets. This is where Jade Vans is saying is kind of complicated, and Borja says, it depends on who you're rooting for. The breakdown is right now because our foreign born population is so high in America. If you believe, as my organization does, that an American citizen should be able to marry whomever they want overseas, and if you fall in love you bring somebody from another country to be your spouse, then you should be able to do that. There really shouldn't be any limits to that. And you should also be able to adopt the children that you want if you just do that alone. Because of the demographics we have right now, you're talking about five hundred thousand people year just in family based, nuclear, family based immigration. So that sets the level. And beyond that, it's because do you want do you want some number of truly exceptional talents, you know, just some Einstein level people to come in?

57:16 I think we do. So what is that is that fifty thousand people a year? Is it one hundred thousand people a year? And then finally, the third, the third leg of the stool is refugees. You know, what's the number the right number to permanently resettle people who have no hope of ever returning to their home countries. There's a discussion to be had there. The latest commission said fifty thousand. Now, the refugee program, as you and I know has a lot of problems right now, so I would like to get the refugee program in better shape before we start putting those kinds of numbers on it. But those are the recommendations. And again, this isn't this isn't a conservative think tank or liberal think tank. This is you know, federal commissions, and they've all been pretty consistent, and we are way way past the numbers.

58:01 Well, Jeremy Beck, Hey, we're gonna have to continue this conversation. I think we've gone down a chapter here that needs to be dealt with and examined further, and you've brought some great insight to it. So we'll continue this the next time we get together. Jeremy back, the co president of Numbers USA. Thank you, Jeremy, take care of Merry Christmas to you. My friend, Merry Christmas to you, Merry Christmas to everybody. Have you written a book? Where? Do you have a manuscript ready and just need to find the right publisher. Christian Faith Publishing supports authors like yourself to bring their books to life, and right now we're offering you a free writer's guide designed to steer you towards book completion. Christian Faith Publishing evaluates each manuscript we receive. If your book earns approval, we take care of everything editing, designing, printing, promotion, and widespread online and in store distribution. Picture your book, greasing the shelves of specialty Christian bookstores, Amazon, Barnes and Noble, and numerous other retail destinations. Time to get that manuscript published and to work with a publisher who shares your values of integrity and honesty.

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59:47 Hey? I'm doing terrific and I've been looking forward to this opportunity to talk to you because I think you know you and I have been focusing a lot on the Constitution and you know, you know, on the origins of our country, and that really is something that we need to you know, keep in front of us constantly lest we forget. Donald Trump is, you know, traveling now across the country talking about affordability, you know, which he probably thinks, Okay. Well, why am I dealing with this issue? Because you know, Joe Biden in the previous administration had done so much in damaging our country's economy, our national security on so many levels, our border certainly, and it just seems so common sensical. But the issue is is that you got the mainstream media constantly be rating and resisting Donald Trump and the agenda, along with the Democrats, and they're just flat out misrepresenting and deceiving the public.

1:00:51 When I had. Consulted with CEOs across the country for many years, the thing that I always told them is that you have to keep the mission of the company up front all the time. Every time you meet with your staff, you have to remind them why you're here, what's your reason to exist, and where you're going. And Donald Trump is starting to do that again, and that's absolutely key as the chief executive officers to get people again to realize what the dream is and also to see that we're making we're making inroads. It's not like he's just saying, hey, give me. Another ten years and we'll be able to do this. I mean you're already seeing. I mean, we had an egg problem. He goes, we have an egg problem.

1:01:32 He didn't think. About having an egg problem when he first got into office. But look how long it took you know, Brooke Rollins and the FDA to do something about it. And now you know, egg prices are you know, they're affordable again. But I mean it was crazy when he got into office, right, just as one simple example, not to mention example. Yes, yes, yeah, you know. The Constitution is a remarkable document. I think everyone needs to be reminded that America was the first country in all of human history. Think about that. Think about being the first country in all of six thousand years of recorded to human history. Of course, six thousand maybe is stretching it on really really good recording.

1:02:21 But before Christ from you know, from you know, from Moses Hahn, there's a pretty good recorded history. And there was never a government that put the sovereignty in the hands of the people. There was there was not a government that looked to the people to to not only govern, but to establish what their rights were, what their God given rights were. That rights really came from God, not the government. All other systems always basically put all the power in the hand the government, and the government determine what your rights were, right, Yeah, So for Americans, our rights.

1:03:06 Yeah, and here it is, you've got now the consent of the governed. I mean, this really turned everything on its head, didn't it. It did, absolutely, But it's a it's a it's it's a fragile system simply because there are bad actors that will subvert a free society and they're you know, it's problematic for an affluent country to remain vigilant because affluence breeds a couple of things. One is that people begin to think that the blessings that they have, that they've achieved in their life came from themselves, right, and they don't they don't really need God. Yeah, and we see and we see historically every time arrogance and greed comes into play, God's judgment falls on their pumpkin head. And uh, you know these are you know, past warnings, you know, and something that needs to be remembered in the current day, right it does.

1:04:01 Yeah, I mean I don't you know, one could argue that, you know, God is punishing America. I don't. I don't just know. I think that reality is that when you when you step away from God, you lose his protection and then the bad actors can really have more influence and control on the outcome of things. And that's what we've seen in America, as we know. The way I look at it is God is that sometimes I don't think that God is you know, maybe directly punishing as much as it is that God has established universal law in his in his construct of creation. It's kind of like gravity.

1:04:42 Right, there's law gravity, there's certain laws that are built into the system, and if you violate those laws, you'll be punished by the universal force of his design. That's right, he says, Well said, Bill Well said, And that's the way. That's the way I look at it. So that yes, because I think that if we continue in this and certainly God has interceded in times of history when he says, hey, look at you guys want to continue to defy gravity and do all these stupid things. So now let's see if you can hear me, and he comes in and levels his righteous judgment because God is just and right, and he can only tolerate this even in his long suffering, only so long.

1:05:24 And you know, many. People feel that we've really you know, have are really asking God, you know, for consequences here, you know, And and we may not get disappointed, because we deserve the consequences of the sins that we have committed. Absolutely, and when you when you really take full stock of the assaults on the American people, they are so manyfold. You know, we have you know, we have a threat. You know, our primary geo strategic threat to is is China, but we have threats from the south from we're now learning a lot more how Venezuela is really a locusts of narco terrorism.

1:06:11 Uh yeah, well said I like that locus. Yes, you're right, yeah, uh, you know, and not only narco terrorism, but they're the locusts of international vote fraud exactly out of Venezuela. Right. So, and and then of course we've got you know, we we've we've got you know, the problem that we face now is that we're having internal subversion. We brought in so many illegal aliens. If you will illegal immigrants who really don't have necessarily an affinity for America and simply simply want to abuse the system. I mean, the huge number of Somalis that got that came into Minnesota.

1:06:55 They they came in legally. You know, for the most part, there's some illegal yeah there. You know, because of George Bush. You know, we we opened up the gates, said okay, uh, there're a persecuted class. We're gonna let him hear. But you know, the silly thing about it all in which Trump brought up, you know again in a common sensical perspective, is saying, you've got to consider where these people came from. I mean, they came from a lawless nation. Now you're going to bring them into a country that believes in law and order. I mean, this is like the wrong gospel, wrong church. And it's not like they're coming in and saying, Okay, look at I'm gonna swear allegiance to America and I'm gonna suddenly, you know, change my evil ways and I'm gonna be I'm going to be lawful. I'm gonna be right. Well, I think I heard a statement by home in about half the Somalis in Minnesota are illegal. Okay, A lot more have come in since the legal wave came in.

1:07:47 Through uh, through Bush. Yes, yeah, and it's it's it's it's a major problem because the bid the Biden years really exacerbated, uh, the illegal population in the Maria kind of was done for many reasons. It was done to change the demographics of the vote. The Democrats were confident that they could win that eventually they'd become voters and they'd vote Democrat because it was the Democrats that got them into the country and gave them all these freebies and these rights, right right, So. As if we could afford it at thirty eight trillion dollars in debt in counting. Right, Oh, I know, don't don't get me started. Yeah, I know. This is just well, you know, this is what fires up everyday Americans as they sit around their coffee tables or at kitchen tables and pondering what they're going to do with next month's budget.

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1:14:17 It really is. And the reason that I wrote the book, the book is really about American history from the vantage point of God's hand in American history from the very beginning, from Columbus who discovered the New World, who opened up colonization, and then we had the Reformation that took place in the early fifteen hundreds that transformed Christianity, and it was the reformed Christians who felt a calling to go to the New World, and they likened, they likened their coming to America, at least the Pilgrims and the Puritans to the Israelites as fleeing the bondage of Egypt to go into the Promised Land. They ma had the same language, the same vision. And so it was that the early colonies, you know, established the foundation for what came after that.

1:15:09 So all the thirteen Colonies were founded on Christian principles, every single one of them. Christianity was part of the culture, part of the early culture of America, and that culture was one of them, was probably the most productive culture in human history. I mean the progress that was made economically, industrial revolutions, scientific discovery, and so forth. It was on steroids in America through the eighteen hundreds into the nineteen hundreds. And you know, we still are a country of great innovation. But you know, now we face real problems international sovereignty because we've departed from God. We've driven God out of our culture. So I think in solving our problems. You know, one of the most important things we can do is bringing about a spiritual awakening, a spiritual revival, if you will, uh and uh, you know, it was very powerful. We never could have defeated the British in the War of Independence were it not for the great Awakening that preceded that engagement.

1:16:19 There was no way that the. The Ragtag, underfunded, undertrained, uh you know, uh, fewer in number. Uh, you know, continental army could take on the greatest military power in the world. But we did, and and. We won, and we won. We ended up winning. So God's hand was in that. But but we we desperately need a return to you know, to an awareness that God is watching over us. You know, if people feel that, uh, they that God is watching them, they have a relationship with God, then they automatically do the right thing in many circumstances. When you drive God out of the culture, then there's no inhibition and there aren't enough laws and regulations to keep everybody, you know, honest and aligned. You really need a cultural spiritual support that people feel and so they do the right thing even when no one is looking exactly.

1:17:22 Yeah. Well, the thing is is that you know, until the people realize there is a God, that he does love you and he cares for you, and there's clear evidence. You know, historically, you go through as you just mentioned, you go through the history of this great country, and you see God's hand on this country time and time again. But you need to be able to see it for yourselves individually. This requires individual responsibility. You know, I can't argue you in the heaven. All I can do is point to the evidence of our you know, of our presentation here to you say why God? You know? And and when you when you.

1:18:03 Can see it and realize that it's more than why God, that you need God desperately, then you will turn from your wicked ways and you'll realize what is going on here. I mean, it's the age old battle that started when we were kicked out of the garden of Eden, and that is a war against good and evil, and good and evil exists today and that's what it is. You either are going to be good, which is you're on the side of God, or you're on evil. And you say, I know some people may rackle a little bit when you say you know the side of the devil. Well, I didn't see myself as being the side the devil. Well, you're not on the side of God. So whether you say you don't want to be on Satan's side or the devil's side, if you're not with God, you're against him.

1:18:52 Yes, yes, there's really not a it's not a neutral not a neutral growth because of spiritual influence. That's that's the true influence is very real. So when we're aligned with with with God, you know, we get the benefit of good spiritual influence and. All this stuff, I mean, brilliant ideas, innovation, maximization of resources, all that. These are all blessings from God. When you do it on your own, there's holes in your pocket, you know, resources are falling out your pockets and your penny loafers and everything, right. Scott, Yes, but I would remind everyone that, you know, for those who still are skeptical, you know, you know, God created us to find meaning and fulfillment in our lives, and he created us uniquely. Everyone is very different, so we all have different talents and different aspirations and so forth, and the mixture of all of that is what makes for a very dynamic creative society.

1:19:54 But God, when you're when you're free when you're free to express that said giftings and talents. That's right. Yes, it's all based on freedom. He created us to be free and he intends for us to find meaningfulfillment and joy. I would remind everybody everybody thinks that, you know, life is all about the pursuit of happiness. That's in the Declaration of Independence, and it is true. But I like the word joy better because happiness is fleeting, you. Know, based on a happening. Right, But when you you know, when when your life is in order and you feel the presence of God in your life, you experience peace and joy that stays with you. And it isn't that you won't have challenges, but you've been able to deal with them knowing that there's another side to that. And then it's just one more phase of the training that God puts us through.

1:20:48 We get trained through difficulties in life. I mean, you look at all the Old Testament figures. God put each one of them through crisis and trial periods because they needed to be trained. God was going to then use them after it had grown through their trials. And so when we have trials, recognized that it is really part of the training so that we can go on to greater things. Yeah. Well, you know this is why James says, consider it all joy whenever you face trials of all sorts, right, and because that's what gets you through that trial, is that you know, the joy of the Lord is my strength, you know. And again another just nugget from the Word of God that when you've lived that out and you realize that you can have joy when you're in the deepest, darkest part of a valley, right and you're faced with the shadow of death and you still have joy. And then everybody else is looking at you and going, are you out of your mind?

1:21:48 Scott? And you go, I think I am. I think I am out of my mind. I'm out of my mind for God because I love him. Yeah. Well, with visual awaking and revival, the best years are ahead of us. Remember that they really are, you know, you know, the evil one would want to convince us that those years are gone, that we need a transformation of our you know, of our society. That the next stage for humanity is really a new global order, a secular, progressive, AI driven global order that's going to be hell on Earth.

1:22:28 Let me tell you. Yeah, well it will come. The Bible says that it will come, and you already see the infrastructure have said global order out there being laid out. And so in the meanwhile, here we are today, and we can be the fortification of this particular era in this time with this generation, to again remind them of what their anchor is, and their anchor is God himself, God Almighty, who loves them dearly and has got a great plan and purpose for each of us to get us through these inevitable storms that we'll be facing. Right, that's right, absolutely, Bill, Yeah, absolutely, Well, you know, and the thing is is God like Scott and I both we want the very best for you.

1:23:15 We want you to realize the best version of yourself. And the only way that can happen, it's not going to come from Donald Trump. It's not going to come from the Democratic Party or Barack Obama, go right down the line. It only comes from one source, and that is God Almighty himself, right, Scott, and. I think the Christmas season, you know, the Christmas thing is is just a remarkable time and the world celebrates at Christmas. In Buddhist countries, in Shinto countries in China and Japan, they are not Christian countries. Really. There's a large number of Christians in China, but throughout the world Christmas is celebrated. Non Christians are influenced by Jesus Christ. You know, we set time before Christ and after Christ. All nations do that. Why is that? Because Jesus Christ was the son of God, the only son of God, the only Messiah, and so he has influenced the entire world. But we need to you know, we don't just want to relate to that in sort of a you know, just a cultural way, but we want to make that an intimate part.

1:24:33 Of our life. We want to have an exactly personal. Relationship with Christ and then and then we can really flourish as individuals. Amen. Scott Powell. He is the author, member of the Committee on this Present Danger China, and a senior Fellow at the Discovery Institute. Scott Powell, Merry Christmas to you, my friend. Thank Gry Christmas. Bill. Whether you're gifting, decorating, or treating yourself, Lowe's December Deal drops are here to help you save more all month loans. Get up to fifty percent off select Holiday decor plus get up to forty five percent off select tools and accessories. Shop new December deal drops every week this month and get so much more out of your holidays lows we help you saved. Selection varies by location while supplies last.

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1:29:05 Sam Welcome to Michelle. Good to have you with us. Thanks for having me today. Well, it tis the season. Huh, sure is. Well, let's talk about this respiratory virus season so far in what should people know or be on the lookout for. Yeah, I mean every year, common resptory viruses like flu and pneumonia, they cause hundreds of thousands of hospitalizations and thousands of deaths. And in recent years, activity really starts to ramp up in December, and that's likely because a lot more of us are traveling or we're coming together for the holidays. So persony is I encourage everyone to check out and monitor Walgrain's Respiratory Index. It's our publicly available online tool attracts flu and COVID nineteen activity across the United States. And we've developed this tool really to provide actionable and accessible data so people can stay informed and take the necessary steps to stay protected. And actually looking at it now. While flu activity remains low nationwide, there are a few states, especially in the southeast, that are beginning to show increases. COVID nineteen activity has increased across the Midwest, specifically in Michigan and Indiana, and we're also seeing overall acute respiratory illness is beginning to increase nationwide.

1:30:19 We're all coughing or hearing people cough around us, and oh yeah, the top spots in the Midwest, Northeast, Southeast. So whether you're planning to travel or host guests this season, the rest Story Index can give you that real time insight into what's happening in your area or at your destination. Yes, and the docs are saying it's it's kind of the thriple the triple threat this season, right because you got flu, RSV and COVID nineteen. They're all raising their ugly heads. It comes with the season. And the other thing I think to be mindful of, and I think you might agree, is that, you know, because of the stress of the season and we're trying to get so much done in so little time, that really puts a stress on our immune system, doesn't it.

1:31:03 Yeah, I mean whether it's stress or just being busy and just being out and about, it really does and the biggest thing is to keep yourself protected. So, like you said, this time of year can be very busy, but again it's critical to take the time get your annual flu shot. Consider it like your self care and take that time and also recommended imanizations like the updated COVID vaccine RSV pneumonia vaccines. If you haven't gotten vaccinated yet, it's not too late. Like you said, we've multiple resptory vaccinations and you should be protected. Based on my experience as a pharmacist, the latest scientific data available, we know vaccines are definitely the safe, effective way to prevent contagious respiratory illnesses and getting recommendation your recommended vaccines can reduce the severity of symptoms hospitalizations. It's also so easy to get your flu shot or other vaccines. You can walk into your local Walgreens and time today, or if you want to plan ahead, you can schedule walgrains dot com and the app or just call one it hud your Walgreens.

1:32:08 You can book appointments for up to four vaccines at once, so just takes one visit and then The nice added bonus is if you're shopping this season and you're getting those last minute holiday essentials, we actually are offering twenty percent off a purchase of twenty dollars or more with any vaccine that you get if you're a my Walgreens member. Oh wow, Actually, so you can get multiple vaccines at the same time, then, is what you're saying that. I hear you are. Yes, it's absolutely safe to get multiple vaccines at one time, and for most people that's the easiest thing to do. You can get one single appointment, multiple vaccines and just get it done. That's what I do every year. I get my flu in COVID shot and the same appointment because I mean, like I said, we're all busy. It's so hard just to get to one appointment. So you can get it all done at the same time. In addition to that, you actually can make an appointment for up to four individuals together, so come in as a family, check it off the to do list for everyone. Then Walgreens pharmacists are available to counsel patients on the latest recommendations and what makes the most sense for them based on their health conditions. In the latest recommendations, right, So how do they get you to slow down?

1:33:14 You know, being the pharmacists, You're running around with your hair on fire, and you still find a moment or two to where you can get vaccinated. Huh yeah, I mean luckily you pharmacists have it right there in the fridge. So whether that's pausing for a moment to get our shot and our technicians helping us out with that, it's the most important thing. Well exactly. How about giving a little bit more advice on how to help reduce our chances of getting sick during the holiday season? Yeah? I again, getting vaccinated number one most important thing you can do to protect yourself in those around you. Like I said, it's not too late. But in addition to vaccination, also preventative actions that can help stop the spread of viruses, like avoid close contact with people who are sick, cover your nose and mouth when you sneeze, wash your hands often, and avoid touching your eyes, nose, and mouth. I also recommend if you're traveling this holiday season, prepare a travel bag with essentials like hand sanitizer, disinfectant, wipes, tissues, or any prescription medications you may need to have on hand.

1:34:16 You know, I'm glad you brought up the idea. It's more than the idea of it's been highly recommended to be mindful of how often we put our hands on our face, and I have been. This is driving me nuts, Samantha, because I I, you know, it's just one of those things that this season I'm more mindful of and I'm trying to do And every time I go to you know, just casually, I catch myself going, don't do that right? So hard, especially if you're like you don't even think about it when you're doing it, so you have to catch yourself. Yeah, but that's why I also, you know, uh, hand sanitizer. I mean, when I was growing up, we didn't have a hand and sanitized. You have bar soap in the bathroom or something, you know, that's it exactly. Now it's readily available in them. I mean we used to call those people germophotes, right who here growing up? And now I am one, you know, but I still even have to remember to, you know, do that more routinely, you know, several times a day, using and taking advantage of little things like this that will you know, help you, you know, fight off these these viruses that are flying around this holiday season.

1:35:22 Right exactly. Yeah, I know you don't even think about it, but now I feel like I have hand satitizer on my car by every sink throughout my house. So just keeping those things on hand and making sure that you're prepared so that you can stay protected is really key. What about recovery, what do you reckon? Yeah, I mean when you do chicken sho not fun exactly. Staying hydrated, eating very important. But if you have Roundino's or cough, I do recommend you can go to your local Walgreens and tests for COVID or flu so you can understand if you have one of those viruses before you get together with family and friends for the holidays. But also it can be such an unpredictable time of year for cold to flu seasons, so gather your essentials ahead of time, and you can stock up at Walgreens like fever reducers, pain relievers, cox the pressens, humidifiers, and at home tests. You can have them on hand so you're ready when symptoms do arise. Also, vitamins and minerals like vitamin C, zinc, silenium can support the immune system, so you have those on hand. The best thing is all of these are available via same day delivery from Wallgreens, so it's super convenient. I use it all the time.

1:36:30 So whether you're sick, don't want to get out of the house, you're home with a sick kiddo, or you just want to avoid the crowds, you can order all these right online and get them delivered directly to your door. And the last thing that's most important is talk to your Walgreens pharmacist or other healthcare provider before you take any additional over the counter medications or vitamins and minerals to understand one, what's the best way to manage your symptoms, but also if you're on other medications or have a certain health condition, what medications can you take? Right while we're talking with Samantha Picking, she's a pharmacist, a senior director of immunizations with Walgreens. Now you may think that I may be faking my voice right now. Actually, I'm only doing this just especially for Samanthas so that it adds gravitas to this interview. No, actually, I was mentioning to her earlier. I did catch a little bit of a cold, but I think it came from Australia because I was on the other side of it and recovering, and then all of a sudden it snapped back at me.

1:37:27 Samantha, what do I do? Well? Like I said, Hey, if you need your OTC items, talk to your provisist. They can help you. But also, if you want to get more information around everything we talked about today, whether it's vaccine guidance, access to testing, checking those virus trends, just head to your neighborhood Walgreens or Walgreens dot com. Samantha, you're awesome. Thank you so much for the advice. Well, we'll stay healthy, keep our hands off our face, you know, sanitize, you know, take advantage of you know, the sanitary wipes and keep them near, use them often liberally, and get plenty of rest and stay hydrated. Right, That's exactly it. Thank you so much for having me. Okay, take care of Samantha. Have a great one, great have a great holiday.

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1:42:45 Hey, welcome back. Good to have you with us. Bill Martinez here and we've got Mark Beckman back with us. Definitely looking forward to, you know, to this conversation. Hey, Mark, welcome back. Good to have you with us. Thanks for having me, Bill, It's good to hear your voice again. Well, hey, you know, you bring up something here that inquiring minds are asking, and that is can the US trust AI. With national security? That is a huge question. Yeah, it's a big time right now for us to consider this. You know, as you know, I am a person who is in favor of small government, and we're sitting, at least from my vantage point, for somebody that really is linked into the tech community. I believe that today those individuals who are running these tech companies really have more power than most, if not all, global leaders. So it's a slippery slope. Government control could hurt us in a few ways, starting for example, with the messaging. If the government is controlling from a centralized perspective these large language models and basically training these large language models, we're starting to see where it becomes a slippery slope and misinformation, disinformation, and frankly just inaccurate information is being reported. So, by way of example, build there's an app that went to number one here in America on the App Store on the Apple App Store called deep Seek, which is created by the Chinese government. And if you or any of

1:44:18 your audience takes a minute to try it out, and they ask questions about the leader of China, Sijingping, Tieman Square, that incident, or the Weiger slaves. Their response is very different than the way you and I see the world. They actually think that Chijingping is their duly elected democratic leader. They see Tim and Square as never happening, and they also see the Wiggers as not being slaves. They in fact, the deep seq will say there is no slavery in China. So that's the first issue. The second issue, which is probably a more popular topic, is whether or not our information, our data, and ultimately the hardware that's coming into play now with autonomous vehicles, drones, humanoid robots and other types of weaponry can be used against us. That's a big issue too, And of.

1:45:13 Course we already saw a little taste of that when Canada stopped the truckers, right and they stop their banking capacity to their ability to interact with their banks and get money. So, you know, centralizing power and subordinating our freedoms to agencies like that, no bueno. Yeah, that's for sure. And remember again, like whoever's leading from a political ideological perspective, it could hurt us. So you know, we're moving away from like this demand for electronic vehicles right now in our country. But I love what you're showing with regards to Canada. Just to bring it here though, imagine if we have you know, Joe Biden part two after President Trump, and there's a big push to limit the amount of electricity for evs that people can use, or limit the amount of gas that people could use, and the government blocks it through the use of AI through machine learning. So then all of a sudden, you and I, who believe we're free, we could get in our car, drive around wherever we want.

1:46:12 We go to the gas station, we try to push some more gas into our car, and unfortunately, because there's a you know, Democrat leader in the White House, we're restricted because the machine learning is seeing that we've used too much gasoline. We've gone to that we've fulfilled our quota. You know that we've hit the limit for the month. That's really feasible that can happen. Well, Mark, you bring up something here, because we did get a taste of that in terms of over regulation and restriction by the Biden administration. As a matter of fact, if they'd had the electronic infrastructure in which to do what it was that their policies were doing, like restricting you know, fuel and you know, playing games like that.

1:46:57 Wow. I mean, they would have created a lot more more havoc in our country than what they already did. That's right, that's for sure. And then taking it back to whether or not we want to trust these people as it relates to the use of artificial intelligence and driving that into you know, military defense systems and beyond, it becomes scary, right, it really does become scary. Well, of course it does. I mean, right now we're having a big, you know, discussion about a double tap on the water off the waters of Venezuela, and you imagine if it's AI. I guess that gives you more than plausible deniability. It wasn't me, it was the robot. Right. Well, that's an interesting point, but you know, at the same time, we do need it. So Pete Hegseth, our Secretary of War, made a big announcement this week with regards to this new system that they're putting into place.

1:47:48 It's an interesting system and one of multiple features is the idea that the AI, the machine itself, can have the ability to react quicker and in real time than humans. So that's going to play itself out on the battlefield too. So that could be good for Americans. Right, we'll be you know, if we're not leveraging the technology now, Bill, if we're not leaning all the way in and investing and leveraging the technology, we are in an AI war with question with Ran and they're going to keep on going. So you know, what Hegseth and these guys are doing is important. And to have the ability to make, you know, in the moment decisions, even if it is the machine that could save our children and our children's children.

1:48:33 Yeah, but it comes with a warning, doesn't it. Mark. I think that's what you're saying. I am. We just can't wholesale, you know, surrender everything. But we need to keep our eyes and be aware of what's going on as much as the government will allow us to be aware. That's the other issue is how much are they going to hide underneath their sleeves here? We need some checks and balances built into the hardware. There's a company I sit on the board of called Extend Drones. It's our the number one drone company on the planet. It's seen battlefield action already in Iran, in Ukraine, in Gaza and beyond. And what the owners of that company, that privately held company is doing. It's really interesting, is they're building kill switches into the drones. So God forbid some bad actor and some bad region gets a holder of their technology, they have the ability to stop it and protect people like you and me.

1:49:27 Yeah, otherwise we're back to Sprock's Zarathustra and hew, it goes maniac. On us right. Entirely, entirely. But you know, I'm of the school I don't believe that we're looking at a terminator scenario. I don't see the robots coming out to get us and our family and our loved ones. I don't see a moment in time where artificial intelligence will shift into what's called AGI, where it's rational and it's able to make decisions ahead of us and point weapons at us. I just don't believe that. I think I might have mentioned the to you before. I've said it a few times. Similar to the way that a gun doesn't kill someone, someone has to pull the trigger to kill someone with a gun, AI is the same if it's going to be used for bad purposes. To point weapons, to create viruses and beyond it's a bad it's on the bad actor. Yeah, we need to we need to behave responsibly.

1:50:22 Now, well, you're exactly right, because like with any technology, it can be used good or evil. And generally what's behind that is it is a humanoid, right, I mean, I mean, I don't know of anything that all of a sudden, some nuclear bomb gets launched on its own. I haven't heard that happening, do you no? And we're I'm very grateful for that for sure, thank God, for sure. But you know, there are bad actors and things do concern me. So this week. Another big part of AI news this week is coming through our relationship with China. You might have read about it. Our president has allowed for you know, this incredible company, in Vidia, the leading company with regards to hardware with chips, specifically, to start providing their technology into China.

1:51:08 The argument. Is that as a result, it's allowing for us to get access to rare earth minerals, which we desperately need, not just for our cars and devices, but for our military equipment too. And furthermore, the chips that in Vidia is permitted to sell to China is bringing new revenue to the country, and they're not as advanced as they're laden models exactly. I was going to say they're somewhat held back a little bit. Are they tied to any soybeans sales? I mean, I want them to follow up on soybeans. I mean they promised and say, hey, we'll give you the chips, but we're sending barrels of soybeans along with them. Right. Yeah, we're desperate for rare earth minerals with China.

1:51:51 No doubt. But meanwhile we're moving We're moving along too. I mean, I think it's projected that by next year we could have manufacturing and be able to respond to this blight of rare earth accessibility here in the country. What do you think? Yeah, I think President Trump is doing an amazing job using the tariffs that he's set up to start cutting deals beyond the obvious. Most people really see it as a binary scenario unfortunately, and you know, I wish President Trump and the Executive branch would do a better job with messaging. They're not just using the tariffs to tax, They're using the tariffs to cut new deals. And in a lot of regions, I think in places like China, excuse me, in places like Brazil, in places like Argentina where rare earth minerals are really really rich, but these countries don't have the ability to extract them. We have some technology that is advanced on that front. And America is one of the only countries China and America. But President Trump is doing a great deal in cutting these foreign a great job at cutting these foreign nation deals to get us access to new rare earth minerals. Coming out of the fact that we're negotiating these tariffs, we're going to see a lot of growth I think in those categories too well.

1:53:03 And the other thing too, Mark Beckman, is that let's not forget the tariffsies utilize them to settle eight wars so far. I mean, is that a bad thing? Look, you know, people Trump during syndrome is real people really. They don't like his style, they don't like the way he speaks. He's doing incredible things here, just not even a year into it. And I heard this morning that there are some places that are in our country, certain states, where the gas price is below two dollars. That's like, yeah, exactly, back to the future, right, So you know, he's doing a great job. People just don't want to see it. It's you know, unfortunately, Bill, we're living in a time which, you know, if you don't want to like Trump, you go against everything he does, even if it's good, even if it helps your children. And if you do like him, you know, in some cases it's blind faith. But if you could just take a minute and look at the policy, he's doing a great job.

1:53:51 He really is, I agree. The thing that's hard for me, I mean, because like you said, people are so ideologically fixed and suffering from TDS that they find themselves standing on twenty percent of an issue instead of a majority issue that sometimes is eighty and ninety percent. There's such a clear common sense position to be on, and it's like you almost have to insist on being stupid just because you hate Trump. Bill, I call it, we're living in the age of dumb where people don't want to apply logic, they don't want to go and do the work to read and learn. There's no deductive reasoning. And I agree with you. But Trump's done a great job at finding those eighty percent issues right where most of the people will get behind him and he's running with them. But the guy works NonStop.

1:54:40 It really is twenty four to seven every single day of the week, and you know, there's tremendous progress. People just need to give everything a minute. A lot of his financial policies, his economic policies, are going to kick in after the new year. It's going to be great. Well, he's selling affordability. I thought that's what he sold to get reelected. But he's got to go out there because the Democrats have tried to all the Moniker but he's the only one that has the receipts to demonstrate that he is making America affordable again. Right well, I think so. I think right now. Messaging is important coming you know, as we turn into twenty twenty six, the midterms are going to be a big deal, as you very well know, and messaging is going to matter.

1:55:20 There are some segments within the population that supported him in a big way. For example, he had a massive amount of the Hispanic vote. It was record breaking, but that's been slashed in half according to the studies that I'm reading right now. So he's going to have to not just get his messaging up, but he's going to have to bring a lot of these segments that voted for him in an overwhelming way during the main election, back for the midterms or else. It could be problematic. And we need four more We need four full years of Republican policy in Congress and in the executive branch to make certain things stick. It's important well. Mark, as you says, is critical, and I think that's why Susie Wilds is putting him in the Willie Nelson buss and taking him product country. You know, you got to get on the road again. Man, keep that messaging out there. We got to leave it there. Mark Beckman, author of Some Future Day how AI is going to change everything even as we're speaking. He's the CEO of Advertising Powerhouse DMA United, is also the creator of the Milania AI audio book. Mark, thank you so much, Take care of have a great holiday, all right, you too, Thanks for having me.

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