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0:00 Are you ready? Yeah, okay, let's do it. Ill Martinas Live a program about current events, our culture, our values, our politics, and our future. And now Bill Martinez. Hey, good morning, Mary Christmas. Welcome. Good to have you with us. Also great to have doctor John Lot with us. He is the author of Gun Controlled miss Doctor John also the president of the Crime Prevention Research Center. Good morning, Merry Christmas, John, How are you? Merry Christmas? To you doing okay? Well? Sadly things to report and talk about, whether it's Brown or what's happening in Australia again? Attack on Jews there during the celebration of Honakahan.

0:45 Yeah, no, well, I mean there's a similarity to both of those. Both of those attacks occurred in places where guns were banned. Rhode Island has fairly strict gun control laws. The gun control groups put it as one of the more restrictive places in the country, and the states that surround it, Massachusetts and Connecticut, are even more restrictive. But the problem is also Brown University bands people from being able to go and have guns for protection there, and you know, you just make it easy. You may actually create magnets for these attacks to occur. These attackers may be crazy in some sense, but they're not stupid. Their goal is to kill as many people as possible and to get media attention, and obviously that's a lot easier if you go to a place where your victims can't defend themselves.

1:43 Well, John, the knee jerk reaction from the left is, oh, we got to take away guns. Well, in a sense, you've already proven your theory there. You've taken away guns and it's put the people at risk. Right, So how does that comport with any kind of logic? You know, I don't know. I mean a lot of people have this view that somehow the United States is unique in terms of these mass public shootings. That's simply not true. Where if you look at the twenty years from nineteen ninety eight through twenty seventeen, the United States doesn't even rank in the top sixty in terms of per capita rates of mass public shootings.

2:28 You know, so well, let me ask you this, John, relevant to that number, how many countries in areas that are contributing these numbers that are above us in terms of mass shootings have restrictive gun control? Oh? A lot of them? Do? I mean? Would you say the majority of them. Oh yeah, I'd say the vast majority of them have very restrictive gun control laws. So obviously it's not My point is it's not working. That's what you and I continue to say. Right, Yeah, no, I mean you're exactly right. And look, if you just compare even just Western Europe in the United States, and I were to go and ask you, since let's say twenty ten, can you tell me the places with the worst mass public shootings. My guess is most people would know that the two worst were in Europe.

3:25 You have the one hundred and thirty people shot to death in November twenty fifteen in Paris, France. You have the sixty seven people that were shot to death in Norway. But you know, France has extremely strict gun control laws. You can't even own a semi automatic gun there. And you know it takes a year, takes thousands of dollars in fees to go and even get approved for the bolt action rifle. That you can get a bolt action rifle against some criminal who could care less about any laws and comes in with semi automatic weapons with hundreds of rounds in magazines, getting ready to you know, unload and keep keep putting in another magazine.

4:18 Right, yeah, oh exactly, Yeah, this is. This is insane. And again I think you know, I was just talking to somebody else about this, John, is that you know people look at this and they say, well, this is a human paradox. Well, it's a human paradox only because you try to satisfy the problem with human understanding. I mean, this is pretty this defies common sense. I mean, you've been understanding goes a long ways here. You just have to read the diaries of manifestos for these mass murders to know that they plan these attacks time after time. They explain that they try to pick places where guns are banned. You look at the men Festo for the Minneapolis school shooter. He picked not only the target because it was a gun for his zone, but the time of day or he didn't want to go in the morning when parents were dropping off kids at school, or in the afternoon when they're picking them up, because he was worried that there might be a parent with a permittent concealed handgun.

5:21 Exactly. So you know, the media is really irresponsible on this. The media goes and says, you know, they talk about the manifesto or the diaries for these mass murders. And in the Minneapolis case, the guy the media will say he talked about other school shooters where he talked about other mass public shooters, So that's true, But the reason why he talked about them was what he could learn from them, and what he learned from them was to go and pick a place where his victims were defenseless. Are these mass shooters given license in a way because of the political rhetoric out there?

6:03 John? Is that contributing to what people are seeing as an increase in gun violence? Well, I mean, first of all, gun violences following this year were probably on track for the lowest murder rate ever recorded in US history. So but I'm sure a lot of the rhetoric, you know, when they go and they talk about things like assault weapons or AR fifteen's or whatever. You know, these killers, and even though only about fifteen percent of the mass public shootings involve any type of rifle, when they do occur, particularly with something like an air fifteen, it gets a lot of attention, and I think that helps make it even higher than it would be otherwise, because these killers then say, well, you know, maybe that's what I need to get.

7:01 Yeah, well, and some of it is that, you know, we have targeting taking place against groups of people, whether it's people of faith that you know, Jews. Right now, it seems that you know, of course, we mentioned what happened in Australia. I mean, this is during a Honkah ceremony and they're they're gunned down father and son there. I mean, it's just you know, so the perception is is people are saying this as things are increasing, but it's good to hear in one hand that they're not necessarily increasing. Maybe it's just the media is talking about it more. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I mean, all I can tell you is that the numbers show that we're on track. Right now. The year is almost over. It looks like we're going to have the lowest murder rate ever.

7:47 You know, it's and with violent crime looks. My guess is we won't know until next September, but my guess is violent crime for this year is down. And those are both big changes from what was happening or in the Biden administration. During the Biden administration, we had the largest percentage increase in violent crime ever recorded over a four year period, it went up fifty nine percent, and you know that's much higher, about twice as high as the previous four year increase that we had had, you know, and this year, I think there's obvious reasons for the drops and things like murder and crime you have.

8:29 You would you credit the Trump administration with that, John Mostly. Well, I think they had something to do with it. I think the fact that you've moved federal agents out of Washington, d C. The places where the crime is has helped. The arrests by the FBI are double what they had been last year. You know, those things help. I think also the deportation of illegal aliens has helped. They've concentrated primarily on criminals. But the thing is even the criminals that they haven't caught have reduced crime by them because they know that if they get caught and get taken to a local courthouse for arraignment, then there's a reasonable chance that ICE will show up and deport them.

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14:05 Hey, we're back with you, Bill Martinez here with doctor John Lott, the president of the Crime Prevention Research Center, also the author of Gun Controlled. Miss John, I want you to finish your thought. I'm sorry I had to cut you off because we ran out of time there. But as you said, these uh, these criminals are understanding, especially now that the FED is stepping in, I mean time and time again. Uh, they're making these these crimes of federal crime and uh, you know, kind of taking you know, local authorities out of it because they haven't quite caught up with a memo yet, right. Right, Well, I mean places like d C and Memphis have shown that uh, federal involvement, Uh, that increased law enforcement makes it riscue for criminals to commit crime. You have less crime that's being committed. But what I was talking about beforehand was just in terms of the deportation if if alien gets arrested and gets a ring, there's a good chance that they'll be deported. And so one way to keep from being arrested is not to commit any crimes right now and not to be on the police radar. And so I think you've seen a reduction in crime, both because you've deported a number of criminal illegal aliens, but also because you've made it riskier for the ones that you haven't even caught to go and commit crime.

15:32 Well, John, you mentioned something, and I'll sell you this is so underreported. I know Cash Mattel talked about, you know, decentralizing you know, the FBI and law enforcement and to get them out there on the front lines, and this is hardly reported. But this has had a positive effect, as you said, because you know they're now at the ground level dealing with the problem face to face, unlike when they were housed up in DC and kind of in an ivory tower. Right. Well, I mean, I think in most federal bureaucracies, people gravitate to where the power is and where the promotions are right, and so if they're in d C, it's an easier career path up for them, But that's not where the crimes are occurring. And so you know the fact that they've doubled the number of arrests from what it was in twenty twenty four in the year's not even over yet. I think, you know, it just shows you you know what you can do, and you have to make it riskier for criminals to commit crime in many different ways. Higher rest rates are part of it, more prosecutions, and surely the US attorneys across the country are more aggressive under Trump in terms of prosecuting criminals.

16:52 That was true under Biden. So you know, those things matter. John know this statement here, legally armed civilians were told that they pose a major danger. They shoot innocent bystanders, justifiably, kill others whenever they personally believe forces reasonably necessary, and rely on racist self defense laws. Who told him that. Unfortunately, The Wall Street Journal has had a series of news stories on that. A week ago, on Monday, they had a story about four cases over the last four years where civilians carrying guns had accidentally shot a bystander when they were using a gun in self defense. The problem was, only two of those cases were really relevant for the story that they were saying. In terms of somebody who is permitted to carry in a public place.

17:53 But more importantly, there's like no perspective, there's like no notion that those two or four cases over four years, you know, ignore the fact that you have about one point six million defensive gun uses each year, that you have twenty one million concealed career permit holders in the United States and twenty nine constitutional carry states where it's not even necessary to carry, to have a permit to carry, you know, the fraction. And we also went through and looked at over the last decade. Basically, if you're talking about people who are legally carrying in public, there's three cases where a concealed care permit holder has accidentally shot a bystander. By contrast, the number of times that police accidentally shoot a bystander over that same period time is at least seven times higher.

19:00 Though, I mean, think about that, John, That is an incredible differential between somebody who is a civilian not necessarily on the range on a continual basis or in these kinds or used to being in these kind of situations where you only have maybe three accidents, versus you know, law enforcement who has been trained and supposedly conditioned to be in these kind of situations where they have, you know, a seven times higher occurrence. Yeah, well, you got to look at these things. You know, one accidental shooting by standard is one too many. But you know, the alternative is at nirvana. You know, obviously, if you don't allow individuals to go and defend themselves, you're gonna have more crime that's going to be occurring.

19:55 You're gonna have more victims out there. You make it riskier for criminals to make rhyme with higher rest rates, higher conviction rates, longer prison sentences. Are allowing victims to defend themselves. You take that away, you have more victims of crime and so but you know, the alternative is having even more police on the street. And they're not perfect either. So it just I mean, both of these when you talk about the number of instances involved over four years or ten years, are both small compared to the total number of times that it's necessary for them to use guns. But it's still you know, it's still a useful comparison, just to kind of make people clear in their mind exactly.

20:43 Well, And the thing is, John, when you have particularly these blue states that want to reduce law enforcement and have done so. New York right now is talking again about with their new mayor talking about doing this as well. You know, when you think, you know, the people of New York position is New York would be yelling and screaming, going, look at it. We've gone down that road before. We've followed that theory, and the results have not been very positive, have they. No, you know again, it's it's not rocket science. You have to have higher rest rates. So I mean, look at what and police are important for that. Look at what happened in d C. You had eighteen days in a row without a single murder in DC when Trump federalized the law enforcement there, when he moved in FBI and DEA agents and others there, put the National Guard.

21:42 You know, you had many Democrats that were accusing Trump of being racist for going and getting involved in law enforcement. In d C. But who do you think the victims of murders are? Something like ninety six percent of the murder victims there are blacks. So yeah, eighteen days with out a single murder, Whose lives do you think you're saving over that period of time? And so you know this notion of you know, the bizarre thing to me is that so many of these Democrats care about the race of the criminal, and obviously they're disproportionately black, but who are the victims? Blacks tend to commit crimes against other blacks. About ninety percent of black murder victims were murdered by blacks that were there.

22:33 And so you know, why not care about the race of the victim. If you're going to care about race rather than the race of the criminal. These notions that somehow we want to go and have criminals locked up in jail so that race is proportional to their share of the population. So if thirteen percent of the population's black, you should only have thirteen percent of the prison population that's black. If they're committing disproportionate crimes and you don't punish them, guess what, you're gonna have more black victims out. There exactly exactly. You know, this Wall Street Journal piece John that we're talking about, I mean it's a propaganda piece.

23:15 I mean they have four of these pieces that they've put out. This was just the latest and the pieces that they have. I wrote letters to the editor for the Wall Street Journal. They wouldn't take them, and so I end up writing an op ed on it. Just going through the different pieces that are there. But I mean there's so many errors. I mean you mentioned one when you're describing it. They basically seem to they basically claimed that people could go and shoot somebody whenever they think that they might be in danger. In some sense, it is not the law. The law is is that some objective third party would have to agree that the person was in serious risk of death or serious injury.

24:00 Just in your own mind. You just can't see, well, I felt I was at dangerous, so I shot somebody. That's not the standard that's there. Uh, you know, they basically parrot the gun control line there about standard ground laws that you can just you know, shoot somebody whenever you want to. Uh, And it's simply not the case. And it's not, it's not and it doesn't even happen that way. I mean, it happens in gang line wars and things like that. But I mean the everyday citizen that they're supposedly trying to represent, they're they're just classic. Very reticent to go and use guns defensively. It's you look at you look at the behavior, and they basically use it as a last resort, which is what they should.

24:43 Right exactly, Doctor John Lott, the president of the Crime Prevention Research Center, also the author of Gun Control missed, John, how can they be in touch with you and be up to date with all the great things that you're writing. Well, you go to our website at Crimeresearch dot org. Crimeresearch dot org. Thank you, John, take care of Merry Christmas to you. My Merry Christmas to you. Thank you very much. This vacation offer is so good I'm going to repeat it. If you're in your forties, fifties, sixties, even up to the eighties, come to Port of Iort in Mexico for sixties all meals, include it for only two ninety nine. Again, come to Port of Iarta. Mexico, all meals, all drinks to ninety nine. We'll even give you a free cruiser land package if you're one of the first fifty people to call right now. Again, come to Port of Iart in Mexico for only two ninety nine. Be one of the first fifty people to book right now in our luxurious, all inclusive resort.

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28:50 Doing well? Doing well? Good to be back on the program. He always good to be talking to you. Hey, let's talk about how the Republicans have kind of blocked themselves in a corner with dealing with Obamacare, with this deadline that you know, the Democrats have been able to manufacture, and they're putting a lot of pressure on Republicans to come up with the problem, a solution the problem they created. Yeah, I mean there's a lot here. So, first of all, one of the issues the parties face, because if we're talking about this both as adult guys. Is that when someone does something that's not ideal but that works, very often the other team doesn't really want to get rid of it. We've seen this with Republican military spending bills. We've seen this with Republican developments of the highway system. I honestly think we're seeing this with Obamacare.

29:42 We've seen this with Social Security. Both parties have grown social Security. So the first question is is there actually a GOP alternative in the works to Obamacare right now? Because if not, we're going to have a lot of negotiations and then we're just going to have a deal somewhere along the way. I think that that's that's what's lurking in the background. When something gets done by one of the sides and it's reasonably popular with the American people, you're often never going to get rid of it. And I'm not saying resign yourself to Obamacare if your a small business owner, but I really do think you need to push Republican politicians to say what the alternative is if you want there to be an alternative. So that's the backstory here. Yeah, I mean the recent budget fight, the shutdown was initiated basically by the Dems. Usually what happens in these fights is that you're going to get something like cars continuing appropriations resolution. Understanding is that's what they did this time, and that's going to push the government forward for two or three or four months, and then at the end of that time you're going to have to act like big boys again, and you know, figure out what the underlying problem was. The government's been really bad at figuring out what the underlying problem is during the entire time. I've been a political science prof so I actually teach a lass on this called legislative process and the kind of last thing. But like in twenty eleven, twenty twelve, the entire government was under some kind of budget resolution. Their budget was set based on the twenty ten budget. They've used cars eight times total. So you

31:15 at some point there are really core disagreements between the left and right, between black and white representatives, between the north and the south, about what the government even should be doing, what the welfare budget of the USA should be, And the question is is that resolvable? And I'm starting to have some questions. About that, yeah, because well, the deal is is you have such divergent interest and their self interest. They're not in the interest of the country. And that's the challenge that you have when you have which George Washington warned about, when you have sides, when you have you know, teams playing against one another, and instead of really being able to look at this in a unifying sense, because somebody doesn't want to not get credit for coming up with a solution, right, it's all about it's all about political you know, political posturing as opposed to you know, coming up with the right solution here. Because meanwhile, what you've done is you've hijacked healthcare going back to the Obama years.

32:20 And what do you got to show for it. Bucus even worse than Bucus. Bucus might be better than you know what we got right now. Yeah, there are a lot of problems with Obamacare, I mean national healthcare. One of the problems with national health care is that it's a push pull issue where you're never going to satisfy most people. I mean, I talked to a British friend once and his comment was socialism is tempting because it genuinely is better for a lot of poor people, especially if they're lazy, which I thought was a really blunt description. And the flip side of that is that capitalism is better for almost everyone who's middle class or wealthy. So, I mean, when you look at healthcare, if you're low income, if you're a college student or something like that, or recent immigrant to the country.

33:04 Under the traditional US model, unless you were badly injured enough to go to an emergency room, you basically just didn't have healthcare. You didn't go to the doctor all that often. And what the brit pointed out is if you go to England, everyone has fairly bad teeth, not like minor beautiful, but like everyone's got all their teeth, but they're like crinkly. They've got may one over here. You know, it's jokes about the breads, but everyone has their teeth, was his point. Everyone gets about the US working class standard of health care in the USA. You have people that have perfect veneers and you also have some people that don't have all their teeth. And that was the traditional model, like you'd go to the dentist when you had money for the dentists. Obamacare did lift the floor for healthcare, but it lifted the floor for healthcare at enormous cost because it was done by the government.

33:50 The government is so big and clunky and efficient. So for almost everyone else, including me, I was in a graduate school by this time, you saw your premiums increase. If you ran small business, it often became almost unsustainable. So there were all these critiques of Obamacare that became immediate, and they were leveled very rapidly. The thing is, I haven't seen the GOP come up with an alternative, whether that's healthcare exchanges, that's something like the faith based healthcare markets. I haven't seen. Home health savings. They've thrown out some ideas, but there needs to be You're exactly right. See, this is the problem. This is what's causing this to linger because the Republicans have not come out with a solid plan, like as if they didn't all. I mean, they've been fighting this battle for what fifteen years now?

34:35 Yeah, So to me, the Republican alternative to all this stuff, including Social Security, by the way, would be private investment where there's the same amount of money taken out of your check and this applies to your poor as well. Poor people pay what is it medicare, medicaid fiko, right, but that's fifteen or twenty percent and you get that money. Now there would be limit so much you can spend it on, as there are with child support. So basically you take that. And you you use some of it if you need emergency aid for something else, but you put that in robinhood or whatever, and you yourself grow your wealth. And I think again, almost everyone who's working middle class on up would say that's dramatically better for me than the social security system.

35:16 Right. But the problem. But the problem is is you get people at the lower scale will and I heard some politicians today and I just wanted to crash. I was driving in the car. I almost went an embankment. He goes, well, you know, these people can't take care of themselves. Excuse me, you know, like that's our job. I mean, like that's everybody else's job. Is that we got to take care of the knuckleheads that don't want to take care of themselves, so we continue to coddle them and cripple them. Well, this is kind of the issue. I mean, there's a famous tweet where a guy who's like a project manager is ranting, we're all at the mercy of the bottom twenty percent, Like my project's been delayed for months because there's one homeless guy sleeping in the building.

35:58 And it just goes on and on, Like you go to your kids in class are like dumb kids. One kid wants to start a fight, that schools shut down for four hours. We're all at the mercy of the bottom twenty percent. I mean, your girls get pregnant in high school? Off it was your girlfriend even interested in high school? Like, it just goes on and on. It's like a page long rant. But look up bottom twenty percent for anyone in the audience. But I mean, I think that there's that's a that's a valid point. And he's got like two tweets, one of them is just shorter. It's like, we're all up in the mercy of the bottom twenty percent. It's his rant condensed and it really is funny. But at any rate, the question is how you morally view that. I think we've often gotten deep into ethics on this show. What the guy is saying, the GOP politician is saying, and Republicans, if anything, tend to be more ethical than the Burrows at some level I think we all know is correct. So getting to the point, if you give me thirty percent of my income, back, which is, you know, it's probably the high five figures, and you allow me to put that in e trade or some gold or something like. Clearly, I'm gonna make better returns on that than i am on Social Security. Clearly, in twenty years, I'm gonna get more than sixty three thousand dollars or whatever back on that.

37:08 It's gonna be substantially, substantially Mars. The problem, though, is if you are a working poor guy and you are prone to buy into scams like they're gonna be whole crypto markets targeting that center of economy, like all those crap coins you can buy in gas stations, the pills behind the counter are gonna have crypto coins like it's funny. But at the same time, the bottom twenty five percent of people are gonna end up with no savings at all. They're going to be growing vegetables behind their houses, and the question is what do we do about that? And I think historically the idea that working poor families would be growing vegetables and would be your son is now old enough to go, he's in high school, he's working a job that wasn't really a problem for anybody else, Like you might Dad might be a Walmart greeter.

37:57 Mom would probably be at home by this time. But day, I think that we've grown used to the idea that that is uncomfortable. So if the government privatized social Security, this is the point, gave the money to everybody, and twenty five percent of the people wasted the money. The problem for men, even in the upper middle class, would be gambling. Now that you have draft kings and all that sort of stuff, what is an investment? Can you invest in pro football? You know? Like if all these people the people, if a quarter of the people throw the money away, which is the usual projection, there's going to be a government program designed to give them the money back. That's the issue with the Republican privatization plan. I think right got to go to quick break. More from doctor Wilford Riley. After this stay with.

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43:33 If you don't want to take responsibility, and if there's a government who is willing to go ahead, I mean, and I guess leverage the assets of producing Americans in order to take care of people, because you know, we're all empathetic to a point. I mean, we're not going to sit there and want somebody to you know, suffer. I mean it breaks my heart every time I go back to my home state of California and you know, go driving back in the old areas where you know, I used to work in downtown LA at the radio stations there, and you see seventy what have they got seventy thousand homeless people sleeping under the overpasses there. They're drug aduled, and I mean it's really it is heartbreaking.

44:18 But the problem is is that see, we're looking at it. We're looking at a situation that's been ignored for decades, you know, and we didn't come up with a solution, and we need to come up with a solution again, going back to what you know, the early Pilgrims figured out socialism didn't work. They said, hey, let's try to know everybody will just all put it in there together. And then you had human instinct being what it is, you hat people that were lazy and said, hey, I don't need to work and just feed me. And we got eight women here, so we're going to have the eight women do my clothes and everything else. Because they got away with it for two years until finally, you know, the rest of people said, hey, we're you know, somebody's going to get killed here, so we better just give everybody a farm, let them earn their way, and all of a sudden, you know, the community started thriving. So you know, that was our experimentation into socialism back then.

45:08 But we forget that, you know, we don't want to remember that part of history to say, look at we've we've tried it. It didn't work. It's stupid. It debases and dehumanizes the individual, and we've got to find a way to get that message across to these young kids that look at you know, our life is very short, really, you know, the Bible says seventy eighty years. If you're lucky, you know, what do you want to do with that lifespan? You know? Yeah, I think that there again, I think there's a deep, almost moral problem here. Like anyone who's ever done like an ecstatic version of prayer for that matter, one of the psychedelics common in college has felt the sense of no ego, like if I were this perfect person all the time, I could make a better society.

45:50 But the problem is there's also. A different you, which isn't bad either in the boxing dram or hunting elk, which is very different and a bit more predatory. You're not perfect and ego lists all the time, and most people are, believe it or not, less perfect and ego less perhaps than me or you. And so when you set up society, you have basically you can't imagine that your society is made up of angels. You have to set it up as if it's made up of people. And that's why communism doesn't work. It's it's just pointless to say, well, if everyone were this perfect being of pure light, this would be the best system. Because people aren't, and that also has advantages. Like in most religious traditions, the angels are jealous of the humans.

46:31 We can have, let's say, marriages. You know, we can eat food, Like there are significant advantages to being. Yeah, little do they know until the angels, if they were allowed to get married, they'd go, oh my god, what were we thinking? I mean, they're like they're big physical questions, but I mean, like it's just there. The commination of what a matter and energy I think is not a poor way to exist as a being. We have to regulate some of the animalistic aspects of that, but the overall framework is a pretty positive one. Given the other two options, I mean, and ghosts and demons, the theories about what the what either extreme would be are interesting. We obviously see what animals are, but at any rate communism yet it doesn't work.

47:15 And it gets back to what we're talking about here. The question of civilized societies to some extent is how much to give to the underperforming? Basically, I mean, like when you're talking about la there are seventy thousand bums in LA or whatever term we're supposed to use. I mean, they're entire. Era homeless people. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, their entire areas of LA that are tent camps, and it is I've always liked it as a city. It is disturbing to see they have no problem taking those Americans and putting them in small houses and giving them at very least the basics that we give to people in our welfare at tenements, food and so on, a call that'll allow you to purchase warmth and meet The issue tends to be this is the same as the issue with the people taking the Social Security money and spending it on drugs. The issue tends to be that without the kind of strict rules that we used to have in the past, you can't just give non functional people liberty, Like you can't take a homeless guy and also say here's ten thousand dollars for a quarter of the year and an EBT card, because it's very obvious what's going to happen. Right, So traditionally what we used to do with homeless people is here's a shelter with very strict rules that were incredibly invasive, like you have to do this amount of religious practice, no homosexuality, probably no sexuality, and wear clean clothes in a shower is the seven to.

48:46 Fifteen in the morning. And what happened was that fifty sixty percent of people got out of those shelters and just became normal citizens. The breaking experiences you could otherwise have simply weren't allowed. You just went out and got a job as a bricklayer or something, joined the year union and became normal. Now we've essentially banned that process of conversion. In fact, we use the term conversion therapy in this setting and a bunch of others entirely negatively, like you should never change someone from their current state. So it becomes very difficult, and basically I don't think we can continue this long term, Like I don't think you can have the combination of almost total freedom, like hey, there's a rave down the street with a welfare state, i e. Other people have to give you some percentage of their money the last thing.

49:31 But Saudi Arabia actually it implemented a new vices policy, and their policy is pretty much, if you can afford the thing, and if you don't get in any trouble at all, you can do whatever you want, Like alcohol is legal in the Kingdom. Now the drug KRATM is legal in the Kingdom. There are party houses in the Kingdom. But the two catches are one you have to make I think it's fifty thousand dollars a year. You don't want just ordinary guys spending money that their wives don't have on this stuff. And too like if you get caught the first time, they're not going to beat your throwy in jail, but you're getting this warning from the cake like this can't happen again. So those those are the two caveats. Like, as long as that you can party, given those two things, I think that's quite healthy.

50:14 Yeah, well, you know bound boundaries clearly. I mean we try to live with boundaries, I mean regardless, you know, self imposed or otherwise. But it's interesting, like you said, you know, previously where they would bring homeless people into a program, what they're finding out now is that many of them they don't want the structure. So you know, now you only got about five percent. I think there was five percent of the people that were coming in would actually stay there and put up with you know, they'd much rather be out in the fields and do whatever and do as they darn well please, and they've been able to. And what I'm what I'm I guess I'm concerned with is that we're so far down the road. And I hate to use this term, but it's almost like some of these people are irredeemable will and I gif you just your losses or I mean, and that's hard to say that you're talking about a fellow human being that you're going to just say, hey, look at you know, you just you want to be a drug addict.

51:08 You want to you know, we're gonna, I don't know, courting you off somewhere. We're going to send you to Australia or something. I mean, I think a lot of societies would just chill you. I mean, it's hard to advocate that undercurrent conditions, you know. But like my before getting to that point, because I mean, I suppose as a medieval leader, I'd be fully capable of just saying, you know, line up some crosses by the road if we have this level of sexcrib and so on. But before getting to that point, I would simply reinstate the rules that make functionality possible. And actually, I think that's the level we would get to before anything else. I mean, when you see we're blowing. Home, so I hope so, but you got to get all these coddlers out of the way, because look look at what you've done. You have raised a dependent class.

51:50 I mean we're talking generations now, will and again. And for me, I think I'm a little like Charlie Kirk in a sense that I think about their humanity as an individual in the time here spent on earth. You know, you want it to be the best version of yourself, and hopefully you have some kind of legacy in a family that you've you know, you've you've passed the baton onto to continue this great American experiment. I mean I think that, first of all, I mean the second point is just accurate. The I think that the people that would try. To block this are less powerful than you would probably think. In terms of people in the elite left, I mean that that's like one or two percent of society. The people think men can be women and so on, and do you hate to describe it in just totally ruthless terms, but in terms of people who are Hulbos, for example, they don't have a great deal of political power, like they'll do whatever the people who are currently in charge of society say at some level, I think before we get into any kind of real abuses on the right, we would simply say we're reinstating.

52:57 Some of these old rules. If you're homeless, we have a vagrancy policy in the city, So you're going to go to this shelter. I mean, you talk with the churches and women's organizations, the zone. And time, you'd set up twenty of them that actually work on like the warehouses we have now, and. You're gonna be there. We're going to throw you in the county jail where nobody wants to be. And I think you'd suddenly see a massive decrease in outdoor camping or whatever. And this has been tried dozens of times. I mean, Eric Adams in New York is actually a pretty good mayor, did this. And the first thing that Mamdani is doing when he entered office is removing that policy so you can again live outside. So kind of showing a weird, a weird sense almost of reverse priorities there, we're starting with the most marginalized people would be the way he'd probably describe it. But anyway, I mean, I think we can return toward normalcy. I think the vast majority of people want to an illustration of that that's become very controversial, but only on Twitter is the Trump administration blowing up the drug boats where you have this weird illustration. And I have no idea whether this is very technically illegal under international law. I know that double tap strikes on land clearly aren't. Like there's no rule that if you're attacking a Taliban base in northern Afghanistan, if the first drone flies over and wounds twelve guys, you then have to stop attacking because your enemies are wounded. But I don't know if there's some weird coodhicol for pirates or something like that. But I also don't care, and I don't think anybody does.

54:26 I mean, there are one hundred thousand fentanyl and cocaine overdoses last year, so it seems like a normal government policy. Like if the helicopter flies over once, or you're flying the black flag, you don't have a national flag on your boat. You got fifty oil drums on your boat, you know you're a danger boat. Keeps moving a missile hit set. I mean, I think that you see this shrieking from certain people like my god, the poor narco traffickers. And I think the ordinary person is just looking at this like, well, of course the government's going to blow up international dope dealers if there were an X number of miles of our waters. Like, what are you even talking about? What does the government do? I mean, take your money. You don't want those people and those politicians executing a war plan will because they don't even know who the enemy is. I mean, they're just so confused. It's crazy.

55:11 We got to leave it there. But you know, we're going to talk about that the next time we get together. We need to get into that a little bit more. He's a professor of political science at Kentucky State University, author of Taboo. Ten Facts you can't talk about but we do here and Live's my liberal teacher taught me, Doctor Wilfrid Riley, Thank you will take care Merry Christmas to here, Oh. Merry Christmas. Individuals and businesses with tax problems, listen carefully. Do you feel like you're losing control of your finances? If you owe over ten thousand dollars in back taxes or have unfiled tax returns, we can help you take back control. The IRS is the largest and most aggressive collection agency in the world, and they can seize your bank accounts, garnish your paycheck, close your business, and file criminal charges.

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56:40 Getting America back on track, Bill Martinez Live. Welcome morning, and welcome Bill Martinez here. Good to have you with us. Also, we've got doctor guild Carl joining us. She's the spokesperson for the International Council of Men and Boys, author of Real Men Don't Go Woke, the book they would not publish the truth that must be told. Uh, Doc Carl, I gotta tell you, our old show is premised on pursuing the truth no matter where it leads. And I love the fact that you say it is the truth that must be told because the truth has been squelched for a number of decades, and voices like yours are so critical right now to really, I guess we calibrate our mindset here in America because Americans have been so gas lit and led to that up is down and down is up?

57:32 Right now, well, look what happened to New York exactly. We have we have a new mayor who's a socialist here in the United States of America based on capitalism, and then we have this Yes, so watch out, everybody. There's a lot of trickery going on and false narratives that you are going to be hearing. Well, we've been forced, We've had deception for a number of decades, and so we've been kind of conditioned for this particular moment. It just didn't happen overnight. It's been piecemeal. And then here we are. We're open to or these young kids, especially in New Yorkers. I mean, of all things if you'd have told me New York would fold like this, I thought never in a million years.

58:22 Right, Well, it's not so much the young men, it's more the young women. Yes, and that's the shock of all shocks. And that's why I am so grateful to be the spokesperson, the female spokesperson for the International Council for Men and Boys, because I am an anomaly. You would expect a man to be defending men and boys, but this has so affected women and girls as well that somebody had to stand up. And since I wrote real men don't go woke, they grabbed me and they said, please come and be our spokesperson. So what you're saying is absolutely the truth.

59:05 Well, our friend, doctor Warren Ferrell, you. May know I love him. Yeah, he's my friend. He's such a dear man. You know, when he was so involved with the women's movement, he woke up one day and said, Gosh, I'm doing all this stuff for girls, but who are my girls going to marry? Right to your point exactly. Yeah. We have been on the phone a lot, Warren and I, and it all boils down to the same problem. First of all, we have men in crisis right now. And that's what my book is all about. Not only are they in crisis, but they're so far gone that they are taking their own lives. Male suicides are four times greater than those of women. Then you combine that with the decreasing testosterone, the thinning of the y chromosome I mean, which will make men disappear off the face of the earth eventually. The fact is also that they're going through depression and loneliness, and there is nobody around to help men.

1:00:09 We hear, we have been hearing for years and years and years that women are in trouble. We want our women to be to have equal rights. Not only have they had, have we had as women equal rights. But now what I have uncovered is such meanness on the parts of females toward men that it's amazing as to what is happening today. We hear females denigrating men. We hear female mothers talking poorly about male children.

1:00:55 I did a book signing for real Men Don't Go Woke in Scottsdale, a well to do area. This is where I live, and everybody you know. My book signings you usually get ten people, twenty people if you're lucky, well, we had a mob scene. Men and women had attended. They had to open the doors so that people could stand outside and hear what I had to say. It was a madhouse, and all my books had sold out. There is such a thirst. And what I was saying was male suicide rates have skyrocketed, but it's crawling down to our boys now as well. And I said, it goes as low as ten year old boys committing suicide.

1:01:45 And you say, what does a ten year old boy have to commit suicide about? But we all went home, we all had the books. Everybody had a lovely time. A phone call the next day from a woman. She said, my best friend, her son, he was all of thirteen years old. He was found hanging in his home. This is in Scottsdale, well to do area where people are highly educated. There's no excuse for this. I'm sorry. There is no excuse for this anywhere in any civilized nation.

1:02:28 Yeah, you know, doctor Carl, you know the encouraging aspect of all this. Yes, this is happening, This is real because of these outside influences in our culture. The fact is we've all been designed with a specific identity, so we're not looking for some you know, incredible miracle to occur, some quantum leap. It's just boys discovering themselves that they are. You know, they're there for the adventure, enjoying life, being active. And even for the young girls, they need to realize not to surrender their beauty because in this process of becoming mean, they lose their beauty, don't they.

1:03:10 Oh, oh boy, you have just opened a can of word for me. Oh, I could talk about this four years, go on and on and on about this. I wrote a book, this is my nineteenth book, and it was I don't know how. For years and years the top publishers had told me, you must not write self help for women. For men. Only women read these things. And I said, but I have a book that is for men's health. That's all. I'm concentrating on men's health. And what I have seen and all the research this is heavily researched, this book, and all that I have seen is suggesting that men's health is not doing well. And they, the publisher said no.

1:03:54 But then when I handed the manuscript to a very high powerful publicist to get this thing agented and sold to the big publishers with whom I have had books published in the past, and I was told they will not publish an anti woke book bill. I had this book with a different title. As soon as I heard that, I said, well, screw that, I am putting woke in the title and they can come after me now directly, because I'm not kidding around mannering crisis and they're gonna have to hear this. And if it's from a woman, it's that much more potent because we are the recipients of what's happening as we interact with our men. So that's what I did. I took total control of this book and it's doing very well. Newsmax called it a rising bestseller twice already.

1:04:57 Yes, well, you know you are are bringing some fresh air to a demographic that has been longing for oxygen. They have been suffocated by the culture and the mean media and all that's going on. And we've got to go to break here, doctor guild Carl, and so I want to go back and maybe consider the genesis of what brought us to this place right now where you know, boyser I mean the suicide rate, I mean, I'm I'm I know this suicide rate was up, but I didn't realize there was so high. It's terrifying. And even President Trump quoted that statistics. That's statistic.

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1:10:22 Back with you nineteen minutes after the top of the hour. Right now. She's a spokesperson for the International Council of Men and Boys. Yes she you heard me right, author of Real Men Don't go Woke the book. They would not publish the truth and must be told. Doctor giddl. Carl is with us. Doctor Carl, let's talk about how we got here. I mean, because you look back and gosh, when we were growing up it was father knows best. There was a lot of affirmation about the male figure in the family orientation, and then all of a sudden, you know, seventies eighties come in and there was a direct, you know, full throttle attack on men.

1:11:02 Yes, well, We saw Father knows best as we were growing up, and we watched this take place while women were in the shadows, yet doing everything to support everything so that so that this could work well. Women were thinking, well, wow, I don't want to be in the shadows anymore, and so they started to organize and they started to speak up. But what has happened is is that some of these women, many of these women, have grown like monsters, thinking that they should replace the men who were cruel and impossible to deal with in the past. Suddenly the women have taken their place. Now today men are waking up out their door and being called toxic for just being a man.

1:12:03 And one man from Belgium got in touch with me after he saw my book and he said, yeah, I know I'm a man, but now all this toxicity, I am sick of it. I can't deal with this anymore, and I am now declaring myself non binary. That's not an answer, yea, nor is the answer. Because I speak to TikTok guys. I speak to guys on TikTok, so that's man on the street. They are talking to me. These guys wouldn't talk to anybody. They are talking to me. Many of them have camouflaged identities Zoro one, two three. I can't talk to you, know, but they are saying, we are pissed off, we are angry. We have had enough.

1:12:47 We've lost our children in court custody cases. We have fought to see our children more than once every two weekends. We are fighting and fighting and fighting, and now we can't even afford to start another family because we are paying through the nose. We know these men, we have spoken to these men, and this is where it's at. Now. Women have taken over the place of the toxicity, and now we're dealing with toxic women. So this is all part of the evolution of the great feminization of our of our society, and which you say is leading the social collapse, which it looks like the strongholds and the pillars that held up our society are all compromised right now.

1:13:38 I'm afraid so, Bill, I'm afraid so. And that's why it's all that much more important for me to get out there and talk talk, talk about what this is doing to all of us. Women come to me. I come to my website doctor Gilda dot com, d R g I L d A dot com you will see how men and women have spoken about what is going on, what is happening, why we have come to this point, and what we must do. And you will see the men who are just falling apart, committing suicide, wanting to commit suicide, thinking there is no hope for them. Right, we can't leave.

1:14:23 Men like this, Yeah, Dodgor Carl. You know some people would say in a in a kind of I don't know, cynical sort of way, that, oh, it's all about sex. That's what some people tell me, Bill, It's just all about sex. I go, you have no idea. It's not what sex you mean the act of sex. Yeah, I'm no, I'm talking about I'm talking about the act of sex because because that's what's happened, you know, been men have been reduced to an act instead of no, you know what it. Was an act of sex that was that they were held responsible for. Was that Harvey Weinstein's pe and the men that I mentioned in the book, those are the real toxic males. The males who get up in the morning and try to support their families are certainly not toxic.

1:15:09 And you know in the book I talk about there's going to be a little toxicity. It's going to be a little vulnerability. And vulnerable is a word men have got to get into their vocabulary because to be vulnerable means that you are emotional and caring. You cannot cut that off. Yes, well, it's part of our personage and our humanity. And you know, we were told, you know, and I get, you know, we're growing up. You know, big boys don't cry and all that kind of stuff. I get heart attacks right right, right, But. I believe we're past that. But what you are bringing again, is that oxygen that men have needed. I think it's that same type of oxygen that Charlie Kirk brought to the college campuses. I know, and I mean, you know, And the thing I observed, Doc carl is that in looking on the faces of these young people when Charlie would speak the truth to them, you could see the lights going on and they were thinking, you know what.

1:16:03 I thought, maybe that was the way it was, but I had been convinced it was something else. Right. They can't be convinced. They can't be convinced. I was just channel surfing one day, just mindlessly, and I came across a movie I don't know which movie it is. I didn't watch the movie. I didn't care to watch any more. In the movie, but there's there are two college kids talking, one male, one female. The male college kid is being harassed by his friends. They're teasing him there, they're talking down to him that She says to him, why don't you stand up for yourself? And he said, because when I do, my girlfriend calls me toxic. That's what's going on now. Men are fearful of the names being called to them by females who are putting these men down. Ladies, ladies who are coming to me for advice, men who were coming to me for advice. First of all, women have got to provide a safe space where men can speak up and not be castigated and castrated because they voice their opinion. Second of all, men have got to grow a spine. Whether a woman cares about what they say or not, they have got to stand up and talk their truth because if they don't have that, they will internalize that, and that's what starts to fester until finally they can't take it anymore. Like a warm

1:17:34 bottle of champagne, the cork pops and they commit suicide. This has got to stop. Well, and how does that build a strong society or a strong family. Well, it doesn't, right, It destroys a society. Yeah, and the women say they don't want these mamsy pamsy guys. And yet they're saying they don't want a guy who stands up for himself. Why not? Late, are you intimidated by that? I'm speaking my truth and I am telling them right out, this is no role model to create for your children. Well, what's the ideal? I mean, you know, And that's that's what I would start with, saying, you know, what is the ideal? And as you said, you know, the couple should compliment one another, not compete with one another, but fulfill and be that, you know, be that strength against their weakness, because we all have strengths and weaknesses, right, we.

1:18:33 All do, and compliment versus compete against. Yes, it is an extremely important concept for men to understand. A woman is not there to compete. A man said to me from the far left, he said, aren't you upset with the glass ceiling? I said, I have never met a glass ceiling. I have done my own thing, I have spoken my mind, gotten into trouble with the people. But that's part of the whole thing. And I accept that. But if I have to go to sleep at night not being able to identify who I am because I did not speak my truth, that I am being a fraud and somebody I'm a relationship strategist. I've gone into Wall Street firms. I've done Wall Street to Main Street firms to up and heal the bottom line. And whenever there's a problem in the bottom line, there is always a problem with some kind of interpersonal relationship going on in that environment. And so I have taken apart what's going on, created peace and and had bottom lines sore.

1:19:44 And one building on Wall Street, fifty five Wall Street, I was in this one company, and I was in one division, and they and other divisions heard about how I had made such changes, and they asked me to come to their division, and another one and another one, And so I was servicing the entire building with my techniques. And they were not what look I teach MBA courses. I know what's in the textbooks. They were not a textbook. They were real world information giving and people loved it. The bottom line sword and I do that for personal problems and professional problems. It's very simple. If you eliminate your truth from the equation, you might as well open a casket and jump in.

1:20:37 Here you go, doctor Gilda Carl, I look forward to having you back the fun. I appreciate this time. She spoke person for the International Council of Men and Boys, author of Real Men Don't Go Woke. How can they be in touch with you, doctor Carl? Oh, First of all, you can buy my book on Amazon, Real Men Don't Go both that Real Men Don't Go Woke. The book is doing sensationally well. And also come to my website doctor Gilder dot com, Drgilda dot com and look at what the things that I'm doing are all about. I'm making some major inroads. Doctor Gilda. You are awesome. Thank you so much for being with U. Sake care all righty doa.

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1:25:05 How are you good? Bill? You flattered me with the one and only, But of course God made every single one of us as the one and only, unique made in his image designed in our mom's womb. So thanks for the kind introduction, but we say that right back to everyone listening to us. Don't we exactly Thank God you picked up on that, you know, because you're exactly right, because you and I have done many many I know what I want to say. Episodes on the image of God, made in the image of God and our identity. It's so critical for us and we understand that we're made in the image of God and that our identity comes from God, not from somebody who waits at birth and assigns some sort of identity or gender. I mean, Jeff, it's just so insane right now. It's like everything has become a paradox because so many people, sadly have decided to disengage from the truth.

1:25:59 And when you disengage from the truth, you confuse yourself and then you wonder, you go, Okay, what's right, what's left? And then you get up into this and you go and then you just kind of surrender and you say, well, it's all a paradox. No, it's not. God did not design is for a paradox. The paradox should tell us that we're off track, right. Well, I mean, humanity has that many different ways of going off track. And this recent era of kind of pass the Enlightenment into the information age and then all of the modern philosophy of humanism has basically been saying, you know what, I think humanity can perfect itself. And there's a pride and arrogance to that that forgets that humanity was made by God right, And if you want to do that, you have to deny truth. You have to deny reality. Because when we run the show ourselves, we mess up. We're prideful, we're arrogant, we're selfish, we put our interests ahead of others.

1:27:00 The evil that we are capable of. Is the same that caused the very first two human beings born on this earth, Cain and Abel. You know, Caine was jealous and he killed his brother. Look look at the Holocaust, look at the anti semitism, look at the discrimination and racism, Look at just the greed based approach that people have. Look at the stupid arguments in marriage where you don't put your wife first or your husband first, and actually apologize. We want to define our own truth. And like you said, it's gone. Way too far now to where we think humans can define personhood and identity and humanity versus the God who created us. Even Einstein, he said, this is also complex.

1:27:44 Everything I've understood, everything I've discovered, it must be designed by a creator. Yeah. More people when they get to that point in their life and they realize, you know, how educated they may be and how much they've learned, realize in that understanding that they're so much more yet to be discovered. You know, for some people who are going to hear some will not be able to see where you're at right now. But in the background are all these rocks and these boulders and everything that are right behind. Jeff. And as you were talking about the arrogancy and man's desire to rise above God, what came to mind and looking at the rocks is it's the Tower of Babyl all over again. Right. We just want to build our own Towers of Babel to somehow, just like Satan who wanted to elevate himself above God. And it's ludicrous.

1:28:38 Glory is a wonderful thing, but it's kind of like fire. It's very dangerous, and glory is intended for God alone. The chief end of man is to give God glory and to enjoy him in relationship. Now, to relate to the being who. Made you would mean that you submit to that being, and your happiness and your joy and your satisfaction comes from that being and his acceptance, his grace, his goodness. Other than that, everything we try doesn't satisfy it. You know, Mick Jagger was right sixty years ago when he wrote, I can't get no satisfaction. You know, Bono said, I still haven't found what I'm looking for. He was speaking of the human condition. We look for satisfaction. We look for.

1:29:25 Ultimate things and temporal things. And temporal things of a beautiful day, a sunrise, a sunset, the joy of playing a great game of tennis, woodworking and crafting and making some beautiful product, coming together as a team, as we saw some NFL teams and college teams do, and have the thrill of victory, the beauty of music or art, or the amazingness of a baby being born. All those are signposts. Pointing to the only ultimate satisfaction, which is God. Enjoy what God gives us. You know, the breath you have today, the life you have today, the family, the friends, the job, the opportunities, the beauty outside of you as signposts to the fact that God gave these and He is the one who satisfies, and we'll be with him in perfection someday. That'll straighten things out quite a bit, so a doubt that it's really, I think, a great time to say, I receive God as my greatest gifts, which can make me appreciate human gifts without overdoing how much I need them to feel okay about myself.

1:30:34 Exactly what I appreciated my recent devotions Jeff was the idea that we should approach God as beggars, and I know that might stop people for a moment. It stopped me, I think as a beggar, and it was that you come in with such humility that you understand that you're unworthy to receive the gifts that God has ready for us. But he also has you talk about receiving. I mean, what He has for us is beyond what we might want right now. And the devotion was saying, don't just stop there, keep begging, because God has an endless amount of grace and blessings to give to us. But sometimes we come in with this, you know, kind of a beggary mindset and we're just happy for crumbs, and God says, no, I got more than you know. Forget the crumbs, man, I want you here at the table with me. Look at this table. That's so bountiful, and it's endless right.

1:31:30 Endless in time, right, and also infinitely better than what earth can be. Everything good on earth now will be recreated to be even better, and everything bad and all that is sad, all this falling short will be corrected. There won't be any more tears. When we do something successful, we won't take pride in it and divide ourselves from others and say I'm better than them. You know, when something goes bad, we won't say, oh I stink, I'm bad, I'm worthless. It's going to be beautiful forever and ever. And you said God has gifts of the soul as well as physical gifts. But today we're just looking for physical, short term gifts that distract us from the relational gifts of grace, unconditional, initiated sacrificial love. A father who would give his son Jesus so that we who could never earn our way to heaven can be adopted as sons and daughters, as heirs of this kingdom.

1:32:28 That you and are trying to describe. And of course John in the Book of Revelation and others in the Bible tried to describe it. But it's indescribable because God is indescribable. So we just thank Him and grace and gratitude as beggars, grateful beggars. As you said, Amen, Well, here we are. We're in the third week of Advent, looking forward to the fourth week. Okay, So we've had hope, we've had peace, and now this is the week of joy. So that's the focus this week. You look at all those things that you can be joyful for as we come in prep ration to receive God's greatest gift to us, his son, on Christmas morning. And of course that fourth week will be uh, will be love because that is really I mean again, how do you describe God's love? Jeff? Like you said, it's beyond our human comprehension. Uh, you know with C. S.

1:33:19 Lewis says he defines it as ineffable, it's beyond awesome, you know. Yeah, Well, this being this being the week of joy, and that maybe practically speaking, you and I are saying that we're joyful because of God's love. We're joyful because he gives us forgiveness. We're joyful because he gives us breath and life. I want to go home and write in my journal what am I joyful because? And God's forgiveness, his kindness, my children, my grandchildren, the. Beauty of creation. I was, you know, I was just reminded today working out at the gym that my body works not so well, you know, but hey, not so well. That I could be a Philip Rivers and go back to the NFL like that Grandpa Philip did.

1:34:09 But it works. But my joy is deeper than those circumstances. But today, write down what you're joyful about? And especially what are the things about God and his love and his nature and his character and his relationship with you, and what Jesus has done and the Bible he's given you and the future he's promised. What are you joyful for? Let's concentrate on that thirty seconds left. I'll let you wrap it up. Go ahead, you got something else to make us joyful about? Well? Christmas is the greatest gift, but it's an all year long gift and we must receive it. And I want to share with people a gift about receiving God's love, continuing receiving God's guidance. So I can share as a Christmas gift to any of your listeners at Jeff kempteam dot com. The receive the Way of Jesus. I say the Way of Jesus for men, but it's for women too, and it's at that websit. You can get that in my other resources as your gift and my gift to them.

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1:39:18 Hey, good morning, Welcome back, Merry Christmas. And Bill Martinez here and Emily Chow from Focus on the Family. She's part of the plugged In team. Exciting here it's always talk about plugged In. We love plugged In, by the way, just so you know, plus tax and license. I mean, you guys do such an out standing job, you know, on behalf of our listeners and the body of Christ and keeping us all informed on all things that have to do with the culture. And you know, and I want to talk specifically, Emily, if it's okay with you about your family Friendly Media Gift Guide, which is out now right, Yes, yes, it is okay, so tell us all about it. So, yeah, each year plugged In we review does hundreds, if not thousands, of movies, TV shows, music, books, video games, and at the end of the year we pick our top five from each category, and specifically for our gift guide, we were thinking, you know, you can you can buy video games, you can buy books, so why not just you know, make that our gift but our gift guide.

1:40:23 So these are our top five video games and books that we reviewed this year. Right, So, whether it's a book for preschooler for example, right, you got it covered, right, you know, a little bit. Older than preschooler. I think, oh okay, it said it said preschooler. Maybe Uh, okay, all right. But so but video games for your team, as you mentioned, that isn't going to compromise your standards. Uh, pluggedins got you covered, right, that's the idea. Okay, all right, So I made a mistake about preschoolers, not necessarily about preschoolers, but everybody older than preschoolers, unless you happen to have a very precocious preschooler who is always who's already acting as a as a I don't know what you call them, an active schooler already. I guess.

1:41:11 No, you could read them to your preschooler probably. I mean I would have enjoyed it as a preschooler having my mom read this to me. So yeah, Well, I think anytime you can have me and mom time, or me and dad time, or grandma and grandpa time, that's always precious. I mean, it's amazing because when you talk to kids when they're they're old enough to kind of ferret all this stuff out, I find it quite interesting that their memories are so often attached to those precious reserve moments that they have with their parents or grandparents. Yes, I know, it's it's kind of crazy. Some of my earliest childhood memories are actually my mom reading Chronicles of Narnia to us.

1:41:53 Oh, very cool, So. Definitely a precious memory. Also, some of my earliest memories, though, are my dad playing video games with us. They're both really good connection opportunities, really great opportunity to just sit down and kind of enter your child's world or invite them into your own, if you're a fan of these things. Exactly. So, your dad was adept at moving his fingers around to be able to stay with you with those video games. I'll tell you that it was so frustrating for me. I have to admit I'll be vulnerable and tell you I just I could not quite get a handle on it. And of course my son was so good at it. He would smoke me and I mean, leave me so far in the dust. It was like, okay, I said, all right, God, now I understand about humility.

1:42:40 Yeah, no, when. We were little. I think it was a little bit easier for him when he was when we were little. As we got older, we started smoking him in those games, and so I think it kind of like how you felt. He was like, okay, I'm just playing games now. Yeah. See that was the problem I started. He was a little bit down the road. If I'd started when he was maybe two, I might have been able to keep up with him. But I understand. So practically, let's break this gift guy down and again what's included and how can parents best take advantage of it? So let's I'll go ahead and start with books, if that's okay with you, perfect, So, yeah, we've got.

1:43:22 Five books on this list. I'll start with the lowest age range and then we'll work our way up to young adults age. So each of these books, we do still always. Recommend that you read our full review of these at plugged in dot com. It just kind of helps you to know, oh, if something's going to have if there's going to be anything in the story that your family is going to be sensitive to, or that you may kind of just be like, you know what, that's not the right story for me, We're gonna skip this one. But we really we picked these books because each of them has good there's good lessons to be taken from each of these books, and we also thought they were just interesting, you know, they're fun to read. So the first on our list is called Pocket Bear, and it's by Catherine Applegate and Yeah, it's about this little street cat named Zephyarina who helps this little stuffed bear named Pocket find old stuffed animals that are going to be prepared at the Second Chances Home for the Tossed and Treasured. Yeah, so basically this story, you know this street cats, she's really rough and tough. She's like, you know, I can do everything by myself. I don't need anybody but this.

1:44:36 But Pocket, the little stuff bear, he has such integrity and such compassion that he really softens her heart. And it just goes to show that even the most self acknowledged character flaws can be transformed through our kind action, through appreciation and love. Right. The next book on our list, so that was for like little kids, middle grade age kids. Next to our list is The Blutchley Riddle by Ruda Sheppettis and Steve Sheenken, And this is more middle grade tweens story about two Polish teenagers living in England during World War Two and one of them is trying to solve the riddle of their mother's disappearance. The other one is trying to solve the riddle of the Enigma machine, which so there's some historical things in there. The Enigma machine was a real thing.

1:45:26 It's historical fiction, but it praises devotion to friends and family and it really encourages young people to use the skills they have to help others in times of need. Wow, very cool. Okay, next, Yeah. The third book on the list is The Trouble with Heroes by Kate Messner. This is for tweens and teens and it's a story about a kid where he vandalizes the tombstone of a hiker and what ends up happening is her daughter says, Hey, I'm not gonna press charges, but in return, you have to hike all forty six at Aronet Sorry ad drunk Dack mountain peaks. After that's what you need to do. Yes, if you hike all forty six of those peaks, I'll drop the charges and so and he does it, and so the story is kind of interesting. A lot of it is written as poems as he reaches the peak of each mountain, and it talks about dealing with grief, wrestling with priorities, and facing life's challenges one hilltop at a time.

1:46:32 So are you ready to go on the under the Adron Dyke Mountains? A journey that'd be so cool. There's another part of it that's like I would not. Get very far right exactly. Okay, so that story when I we're four. What's the fourth one is? It's a graphic novel. It's called God with Us Bible Stories on the Road to Amaeis and is by Matt mclado's illustrated by David Shepherd. And like I said, it's a graphic novel. So this is kind of good for tweens and teens. And it illustrates Luke twenty four, which is about Jesus' resurrection, but it tells the story through the eyes of this elderly couple and they're two young charges as they are walking on the Road to Amais.

1:47:20 And the purpose of this novel. Is to teach us that things of the Bible they're not accidental. They're all interlocked, and they're all planned by God. Exactly. Yeah. And then so the last book on our list, it's called Once a Castle. It's actually the second book in the Carrick Call Novels. It's by Sarah Arthur and this one is we recommended it for young adults. It's got kind of a Chronicles of Narnia vibe to it, which you know I've already mentioned that earlier in the show. But it's about these siblings and their friends. They travel to a magical fantasy realm. That's where you get the Narnia vibe.

1:48:01 Yeah. It encourages readers to fight against evil, to sacrifice for others, and to hold fast to virtues of specifically bravery, honesty, faith, and love. Oh wow, very cool. So those are the five books, and this is all just a little bit of a taste of what's in the gift guide. And then also we have video games, right, yes. We have video games too. So if you're looking for more information on these books, just real quick you go to plugged in dot com slash blog, or you can just go to plug in dot com and click in our blog and the name of the blog is the Blessings of Books. Oh I love it. Yes. For video games, it's the same directions, except it's called a Gaming gold Mine. So if you're looking for it on our website, that's where you'll find it.

1:48:48 Okay, great, all right, we got a couple of minutes left, so highlight some of the video games that are available that you're recommending. Yep, So We've got Mario Kart World, which is great for the whole family. It's just a racing game and it's in a cart to world, and I mean it's Mario. Yeah, And we liked it because it's got automatic features on there, so even little kids can play because it's got smart steering and auto acceleration or you know, you were saying earlier how you couldn't quite get the controls underway. It's great for you know, for parents who maybe aren't as adept a video games, right, So yeah, it's great. It's great for you. So it's got a built in handicapped system for some of those parents that I love it. This is great.

1:49:30 Yeah, we loved it too. Next on the list was called blue Prints, which is a puzzle solving game and you're walking around this house. You're trying to lay out the blue print of this house. So it's kind of a play on World blue Prints. Blue Prints, Yes. And so yeah, it's like a lot of different puzzles. We said older kids and tweens would be good for this, but you know, some of the puzzles are harder, so they might look at you and be like, hey, mom, hey dad, can you figure out this puzzle, which is kind of cool again and just inviting, inviting you into their world. Then we had Pokemon Legends z A. Pokemon Legends z A, and that one is for older kids and tweens and it's all about ex So it's exploring this parasite city with your little Pokemon pets and they do.

1:50:21 There is a battle aspect to it. It's not like the old style Nintendo Pokemon, where you know it was turn based battle system. It's a real time battle system. But it's completely clean combat, like nobody dies, there's no bloodshed, totally clean and sanitized. So you know, for your kids who are getting older, who will be exposed to more intense combat games, this can almost This is like a more tame version of that where you know, you don't have to feel guilty about, like, you know, playing this alongside your kids and helping them through the different battles and the explorations and stuff because again and it's totally sanitized, totally clean. You know, you don't worry about.

1:51:04 Well, we got we got to wrap things up, Emily, so real quick. How can parents access the copy of the Gift Guide and what other resources are available at plugged in. So you can access to the gift guide as I said at our blog plugged in dot com, slash blog, or just going to our homepage and clicking on it and it's a gaming gold mine and the blessings of books and then we offer things throughout the year. We have video games and books obviously, we also have YouTube music, TV shows and most especially movies. Well check it out plugged in dot Com. Emily Chow, a member of Focus on the Family's infamous plugged In team. Emily, thank you very much, Merry Christmas, Happy. New Year to you, Happy New You to you as well.

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