The Bill Martinez Show 05 14 26

0:00 Are you ready? Yeah, Okay, let's do an Ill Martina's Live, a program about current events. Our culture, our values, our politics, and our future. And now Bill Martinez. Hey, good morning to you. Six minutes after the top of the are right now, we've got the Assistant General Counsel of Landmark League, the one and only Mike O'Neil, joining us. Hey, Michael, good morning. Good to be with you. Bill. How are you well? You know, just having all kinds of fun as if we had nothing to talk about. The Democrats' heads are exploding. All the money that they spent in Virginia on the redistricting wars has really backfired on them a bit, hasn't it? Right? And it was. It was a very brave decision from on the part of the Virginia Supreme Court. Here now we're going to throw over the course of our discussion the next few minutes, we're going to be talking about Supreme Court. So I want to be clear with this.

0:48 We're talking about the Virginia Supreme Court, not the US Supreme Court. And we'll talk about the US Supreme Court because of course they have a role to play at all of this as well. But this is a very brave decision from the Virginia Supreme Court, and it is it really is common sense when you boil it down, when you pass a constitutional amendment, and there's a prescribed procedures in enacting a constitutional amendment, and this is what they were trying to do. They were trying to they were trying to pass a constitutional amendment. To the Democrats in Virginia, we're trying to pass a constitutional amendment to redistrict all of the congressional districts. Now under our federal system and under our US federal Constitution, they're allowed to do that. Right, State legislatures are and you're seeing this all over the country, right, you're seeing it in Texas.

1:32 For political purposes belongs to spoils, Yes. Exactly, You've seen that all over It's the gerrymandering wars that we're engaging in right now. And Virginia was doing that and there was no federal constitutional issue at play here. There's no in other words, there's no there's no equal protection issue or claim that can be played at This is what they're permitted to do under our US Constitution via the US Supreme Court's decision. However, you're still obligated to follow law and state constitution when a state action, When a state actor takes action pursue it to state law, they have to do it under the prescribe procedures of state law exactly and under the state constitution. And if you want, if a party or if an organist, if a group wants to amend the Virginia Constitution, and this is what we're talking about, the Virginia Constitution, not the US Constitution, then they have to follow a given procedure that's laid out in the constitution. So what does that mean?

2:27 What does that procedure entail? It means that you have to before an election takes place, you have to have the legislature in Virginia vote on the constitutional amendment. Then an election has to take place. Then after that election, there has to be another vote and then by that legislature again upholding the amendment. And then after that it has to be put to the people of Virginia for an up or down vote, yes or no. So what did they fail to do in this case? The original vote from the Legislature of Virginia was conducted during the election process in twenty twenty five, and this is what happened was it was done in October. Well, early voting had already started and a lot of votes had already been cast, so the opportunity so people had already voted.

3:15 So because it had, it wasn't done outside the course of an election. It didn't follow the necessary procedures as specified in the Virginia Constitution. Now this was clear to everybody. We knew this going forward. It was that it was constitutionally deficient. It was procedurally deficient. However, I think the Democrats in Virginia were just hoping to gloss over that and bully their way through the Virginia Supreme Court. They the Supreme Court, the Virginia Supreme Court is a stickler for procedure. They're well not there. Their reputation is belt. It's called belt and Suspender's law. It means if you don't have all your eyes dotted or your tea's crossed, it's not we're not gonna We're not gonna counter, no matter how good your arguments are. No matter what your arguments are, you have to you have to make sure you follow the rule of law and the procedures set fourth in the Virginia Constitution and very clearly they didn't do that. So that's what the Supreme Court ruled on.

4:06 The Virginia Supreme Court ruled on you didn't do you didn't follow the procedures. You're not special. Every other constitutional amendment has followed this procedure exactly. This doesn't do it. And because this doesn't do it, you're out of luck here. Now Virginia could go about the Democrats in Virginia could redo this. Of course it'll push it back years, but they could redo this process. But they have to follow the rules, just like everybody else does. What a waste? What did they spend forty eighty million dollars that they basically just flushed down the toilet? Right? Yeah, And it's funny because there was a lot of political capital that was expended. I mean, Barack Obama was out there talking about fairness running ads. Abigail Spamberg or our governor has her her polling has just dropped precipitously.

4:53 She's at her lowest lowest approval rating I think ever of a governor in Virginia. And she's only been in office for you know, three or four months, so it's not going well. And they their lawyers should have prepped them for this. You know, lawyers, you know at the outset, we knew at Landmark, other people knew that you were making the arguments. It was clean, it was a clean legal, procedural argument, and they should have been prepared for this. But I think they thought, well, if the people of Virginia vote up, hold this, the court's gonna the Court's gonna, you know, not override the will of the people. But look, Virginia Supreme Court, it was a very brave decision. Ironic, not ironically, but interestingly, the decision was written by a justice on the on the Virginia Supreme Court who was originally placed on the appellate Court by Senator Warner, who is a Democrat senator from Virginia, but he was also the governor of Virginia and he's a Democrat. So you had a Democrat, sensibly a Democrat appointed justice who was who was the operative decision. And again politics didn't play a part in this. In the decision, it was just a procedural matter about you have to follow the rules.

5:57 That's just the bottom line. Well, well, once again it seems to be in alignment with the character of Virginia. I mean, before all this came out, you know, their redistrict or their districting map was said to be one of the fairest in the land. Yeah, and so fair and consistent, and so here they are. They a decision is brought to the state Supreme Court and fair minded as they are, as you do. I'm going to be using Belton suspenders forever. Now, I love that. But that's exactly right. I mean, they played by the rules. Now. I know people on the right have been a little nervous because there have been some judges and activism has taken place that the rules mean nothing. It's more about you know, politics. So you know, God bless the Virginia Supreme Court.

6:44 Yeah, there are in Virginia. It's interesting because there's this and it's you still see the I call it messages. I would like to think a stronger word than this. But Virginia has long again I practiced in Virginia in my life. Virginia has long held the South held It's out as a tradition based state. Look, this is how we do it. We're above the you know, you know they don't they call it it's it's Virginia's they call it it's a commonwealth, not a state. Well why they call it commonwealth. Well, it's tradition, you know, and there's a reason why we call it commonwealth. In Virginia. You are attorney and counselor at law. So it's all of this kind of hearkens back to again I use that term Belton, suspenders. We try to stay above the missmash and the dirtiness of politics. Here we are. We follow the rule of law. That's paramount. This is our ideals we strive for. And it's good to see that still in existence in the Supreme Court in Virginia. And again I don't practice in the Supreme Court in Virginia, but the reputation is again, if you miss it by one, you know, you you you turn into brief. You submit a brief one minute late. It's late. It's not going to be accepted. You don't look. We still term our we if you don't use the proper headings the way it's termed, an answer isn't an answer, it's a demure in for JAA. So in Virginia civil procedure. So it's all this kind of hearkens back to tradition, Leyden, but suspenders above the dirtiness of politics, and so you kind of see that this is what the Supreme Court was, the Virginia Supreme War was doing, again a brave decision,

8:16 but in line with their reputation and not I mean not unexpected in retrospect. I was surprised because I thought that they would cave in this era of politics. But when you really think about how they're organized and how they operate in retrospect, it's not surprising. But the subsequent actions by the Democrats have been wholly characteristic not surprising either. You know what you saw here, you saw Hakeim Jeffries at least reportedly was batting around this crazy idea to lower to pass the law that would lower the mandatory retirement age in Virginia for something Coourt justices from seventy four to fifty four, seventy five to fifty four, and you say fifty four, that's a random number. Well, it would disqualify all of the sitting justices on there. So they just you know, they pass a law and they kick them all out.

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15:11 So you know, what's good for the goose is good for the gander in this and it's just it's just the gerryman war. Gerrymandering wars are playing out again. You get these these crazy ideas that you know, race is motivating. It's not race, it's politics. Bill. This is all politicians. They motivate people how they vote. We talked about this before and again. Going back to Virginia the twenty twenty five election. Overwhelmingly, the whiter the district, the more the higher percentage of people voted for the African American Republican in Virginia and vice versa. So uh, you know, you have these these race hustlers out there screaming and yelling that that African Americans are being disenfranchised. Well, no people vote via a party, they don't vote via race in this country. That's that's that's a vestige of the past.

15:56 Yeah. And the thing that irritates me so much about this is that it raises something that people have been trying to shake off of themselves the country, the citizens of this country, the race card and all this stuff. And of course, with the exposure of the Southern Poverty Law Center here recently, what they've done in terms of trying to manufacture a boogeyman, you know, for the sake of their own existence. I mean, these are desperate people looking for reasons to exist. Right absolutely. And then and this and it's it's performance. It's performance. You see what happening. And then in the Tennessee legislature with that individual who's the Tennessee representative, and it's just performance. It's just it's live action role playing by theater kids. Honestly, I don't mean to be crass with this, but these are these are pretend pretending they're concocting issues that were none exist.

16:42 But how dangerous though. This is what concerns me because it's, first of all, it's bad enough they're saying something. It's even worse that the mainstream media cannot see it for what it is. Yeah, platforms it exactly. And that again, I think that there's an there's an entire as you just said that the SPLC, there's an entire complex industry built up in propagating this myth that institutional racism continues to exist in the United States and it just doesn't. And look at the evidence. The best evidence you can muster in Louisiana versus kla it's it's nothing. You can't. You have battalions of lawyers. And we saw this in an earlier Supreme Court case Bernovich years ago, which had to do with prohibit prohibitions on ballot harvesting in Arizona. And the goal of the other side in this is to is to demonstrate, is to show, is to provide evidence of institutional racism.

17:37 And quite frankly, you have battalions of lawyers and special interest groups who were deployed across states in Louisiana versus KLA in the Bernovich case to try to find instances of institutional racism to justify the discriminatory tactics they want to take, you know, to to justify the action under Section two of the Civil Rights of the Voting Rights Act, for example, and they never can find it. They can never find contemporarious examples of institutional racism. They have to fall back to the sixties and seventies and say that that still permeates throughout American society in twenty twenty six. There are again, show me the evidence, because you have had multiple opportunities. You have you had the best opportunity.

18:20 You had dozens and dozens of the most expensive lawyers in the world operating in the Louisiana versus Cala, with every single civil rights organization quote unquote civil rights organization out there trying to find it. And the Court said, I don't see it. There is no intentional there is no institutional discrimination in these cases. It doesn't exist anymore. Yeah, but yet you have these supporters of these grifters, like Sunny Austin, you know, on the view the Supreme Court decision means my children will have less civil rights than I did, Right. And the question is here's what always is amazing. All you have to do is ask the follow up question to that. And you see guys, you see folks on Jennings on Santa and don'll do this is how. You just say. They throw this nonsysical statement my kids will have fewer civil rights and civil rights protections than I do, and you just say, well, how, and then you say then they're done. They can't. They can't. They can throw out the cheap bumper sticker statement, right, the cheap, the cheap line that gets the applause. And all you have to do is ask a fall up question, well, how where show me show me the evidence? Where where is that happening? How will you have feer civil rights today than you did last than you do last year? Where is it? And they'll say something like there is no there is no answer. They can't follow up any of their ridiculous statements with actual supporting evidence. They can just they can fall back to what happened. And again, let me be clear here, I'm not I'm not saying that what happened in the fifties, sixties and seventies. Maybe even in the eighties was not wasn't legitimate and real and

19:52 recognizing that. But in twenty twenty six, where is the institutional racing exactly? Well, even Sonny's dad said, you are so privilege because you can exercise your full civil rights. He was born in forty nine and so he was still you know, experiencing, you know, some some issues with voting and what have you. But her own dad even said that you're so much better off than I am. I mean, and she even said that in her statement, and then she comes up with this non sequitur of oh, my kids are now going to have less, Well, how can they have less when you've got more? Yeah? And how? And it's also devaluing I think the legitimate efforts and struggle that was made in the civil rights era.

20:36 I mean, you're saying, so if things are worse now, then you're saying everything that all of those people have done for decade, did in the fifties and sixties and seventies was for not now. I don't understand. And the thing is they didn't grift. They didn't grift. They weren't out there grifting. Martin Lutheran King wasn't He was there for the cause, for the higher level cause. And then after all his hard work included his own assassination. Then you get these grifters who come in and they create this in this you know, industrial complex of racism. Yeah, to propagate it. And again they're there, there's there's evidence, there's legitimate evidence of manufacturing this. You have the quote unquote one of the premier civil rights organizations in our country with nine hundred million dollars of assets by the.

21:24 Way off shore thanks exactly. In the Caymans and Bermuda, creating this entire spending millions of dollars to manufacture and and prop up extremist fringe groups to ensure their own to ensure that group's own relevancy. So okay, well, if if this is, if this is as pernicious as you you you you assert it is, why do you have to spend millions of dollars to propagate these or the these extremist groups. These it's it's it's obvious. I mean, even Whoopy Goldberg, this was a great line. She says the Scotis decision was wrong because whites are still shooting sicking dogs on black people at the polls, and and you say where.

22:07 That's that's always my question is all all you have to do is ask the never let people get away with these these these blanket statements. Uh, And you just say where, how where? Show me show me this? Because literally, and I'll say this because I I I When I do these, when we litigate cases and things, there are you have battalions of lawyers that are just standing at the ready to go after institutional racism. And I'm talking the most and oftentimes backed by white shoe law firms. You have hundreds of millions of dollars, if not billions of dollars of groups. You have d these officers everywhere.

22:47 Think about this, If there's racism on a college campus, you have dozens of people who are in, who are part of the college, who are their their Their entire purpose for being employed by the university or college is to root out institutional racism. So if it happens, you have the thunder comes down so quickly and so so where it doesn't exist, it's it's it's it's a complete farce. At this point, Well, I remember seeing black panthers outside of voting pole station I think was in Pennsylvania with what with batons, uh, smacking them up against their hands, threatening you know, the white folks as that were going in to vote. This was course during the Obama election, right, Yeah.

23:28 I mean, if anything, you see that that sort of intimidation, or you see somebody going into you know, going into churches that trying to intimidate, you know, the guy from Don Lemon, Yeah, trying to intimidate. So I again, it's just it's time to you know, continue to move forward towards this you know, colorblind society, to this ideal that we strive for. Again, people, there's always going to be prejudice. There's always going to be individual racism. People are always going to have their biases and their prejudices. People are always going to be jerks. But to the extent to which you have institutional racism, it is it is a vestige of the past. It is a vestige of the bygone era. What motivates people now to vote in the voting arena? And this is very clear, it's it's not race.

24:12 Look at the Look at the guy in Memphis, the white representative, who is going to be who's a Democrat, who is going to be voted out in an he's in an African American voting district, heavily African American voting district. He continues to get elected because he's a Democrat. He's a white guy. He continues to get elected because he's a Democrat. Abigail Spamberger African Americans in Virginia. Ninety three percent of African Americans in Virginia voted for Abigail Spamburger because she was a Democrat. Right exactly, I mean that's it. So it's so going up against a black candidate black. Yeah, exactly. If people were motivated by race in Virginia, show me this, why would the south parts of the southwestern counties in the southwestern part of Virginia, who still again fly the Confederate flag and have sons of the Confederacy marches. If they're so motivated by race and how they vote, why did ninety percent of them vote for of those white people in the southwestern part of Virginia vote for an African American candidate. And that's a that just shows race does not factor into how people vote.

25:17 What factors into them is the candidate, is the positions of the candidate, is the party affiliation, of the candidate. That's what that's twenty twenty six. And again this goes back to our whole point. Well, Supreme Court has said, look, partisan political decisions, that's for the states to work out. There's no constitutionally protected role here. You can't discriminate on the basis of race. Fourteenth and fifteen Amendment protect that. But unless there's evidence of intentional discrimination or institutional discrimination, we're not going to get involved in these cases. This is for the states to fight out themselves. And then you're seeing the fighting out right now. Well that's a wrap. He's Assistant General counsel of the Landmark Legal Mike O'Neill. Thank you, Mike, take care, take care of Bell, have a great dad.

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29:40 Raising Spiritual Champions. And then, you know, speaking of the Old Testament, some people who look at the Old Testament heroes like David and to say, you know, here's a guy who kills his body to get his wife, and but yet God says, here's a man after my own heart. Commits adultrey has sex with prostitutes. I mean, you know, kills people, does all kinds of things that we wash. He's disqualified, he's out of here. And then the Lord comes back and gracious, graciously shows us no, no, no, he's a man after my own heart. And it wasn't because he was rape and pillaging. It was because he was repenting and praying and crying and weeping over his own sin and recognizing who he was in the presence of a holy, righteous God and begging God continually, you know, forgive me. One of the things that that so struck me.

30:34 There's a passage and I think it's Second Kings maybe where it talks about David throwing himself on the floor and and and you know, putting his arms out and crying in front of God. And you know, I look at that, and I'm so moved by that sincerity. Right it breaks my heart because I know I'm not there, but I got to get there exactly. We're talking with doctor George Barne and he's giving us the latest details on his latest research. You know, George, I'll tell you what touches me as well. And I can relate, you know, to being throwing yourself prostate, you know, before a holy God. And then declaring against thee and the only have I sinned?

31:25 The research and I look at what people think about sin, it is sad and it's frightening. In fact, we've got two percent of Americans who believe that when they die, they're going to Hell. And then when I look at the profile of their life that we have through the research, I'm not God. I can't judge them. I don't want to judge them. God's going to go. God knows their hearts. That's what I always say, He knows our heart. So yeah, but you know, I look at the profile and I think, if I were to guess, I would say a lot more than two percent are probably not going to wind up in God's eternal presence. And it's because they don't have this mindset of who God is.

32:10 In this particular study, you know, we look at things like what people believe about God, and we only got about four out of ten Americans who believe in the God of the Bible, that he exists, that he's holy and righteous, that he's just and merciful, that he still rules the world today, but that he still expects us to live within the boundaries he set for us. That we cannot save ourselves. We've got a majority of people in America who think Jesus when he was on earth, they'll buy the notion he was both human and divine. But because of that, they're saying, and therefore he was a sinner.

32:51 It's like, oh, what do you think. Read the book again. He who was without no sin bore our sin and so oh gosh, there is so much that we've got to learn. And you know, here we are in this Easter seas and I'm thinking, people, this is the time, you know, get motivated. See him on the cross, see him rising from the cross, see him coming back to his apostles and followers and giving them those final words, you know, one of which is go make disciples, which means you've got to be the first one. You've got to be a disciple before you can make other people into disciples through the Holy Spirit. And so, man, what a great time of year. This is.

33:32 Well, this is what's happenings, And this is what I appreciate. I appreciate about the liturgy that God has established because it comes up at this point, whether it's Passover, the Easter season, or like some of us like to refer to because sometimes the Eastern reference is something pagan, but we you know, we'll call it Resurrection Day. But again it's a reminder of just how significant this is and a time that where God is saying, look at you. Know. It's not over, George. You know I'm still cheering you on. I still guess what I want to commune with you, the way I intended to commune with you when I first created everything and said this is very good.

34:14 How often do we talk about America as the land of opportunity? Yeah, you know, the greatest opportunity of all is to be reconciled with our Father in heaven. Amen. And realizing that I live in a country where I can do that, I can do it freely, I can do it in the open. I can talk to people about that. I should talk to people about that. You know what a great thing that is. And you know so, I mean, folks, when you go to church this Sunday or wherever you go to worship God, or today and tomorrow, when you worship Him privately and personally, and you should be don't wait for church services. You know, thank Him for that freedom, Thank him for that opportunity. It's unbelievable when I travel around the world and see so much, many people in spiritual bondage, political bondage, economic bondage. And then I come back here is this place perfect? Now? Wow, what a great place it is to be in spite of its faults.

35:14 Well, yes, exactly. I mean, it is such a gift that God has given us. You know, there's a new movie that's coming out, George, And by the time people will see this interview, it will have been out because it comes out on Friday, April third, And it's the story of George Whitfield and Benjamin Franklin, the Great Awakening, the initial great Awakening that ignited, you know, the American Revolution. It is a phenomenal story put together by the folks Joshua ank who's become a friend over the years involved with SIT and Sound. They've got two grand facilities, one in Pennsylvania and one in Branson, Missouri, where they do these theatrical biblic reenactments and stories that are just beautiful.

36:03 And this is the second movie that they ventured into and it's all about and I didn't realize the total story of Benjamin Franklin and Whitfield and that they were business partners and how they work together. And as Josh and I were talking, I immediately, you know, flashed back to because here, you know, Benjamin Franklin was a publisher, right, he was a printer. He's printing, he's got a printing press going on there in Pennsylvania, and he promotes Whitfield because it's good for business, right, And I flashed to Randolph Hearst and Billy Graham, because that's what Randolph first did with Billy Graham. I did puff Graham, yes, right, yeah, yeah.

36:49 That was the expression to use puff Graham. And he sent that out to all his editors. Yeah, that was great. And I don't know if people have been to the site and sound stuff. I've actually flown back to Pennsylvania three times just to see their live plays. They're phenomenal. They're great. I love them. And yeah, so I'm excited. I didn't know about this, So I'm excited to hear about this. Well good, Well you'll enjoy it. It will bless you. The storyline and Whitfield's commitment, I mean, his passion to pursue Christ Georgia, like you and I were talking about. You know, we get here and we try and you know The thing is, we do it in our own human you know power, trying to you know, create our own babbel, you know power of babbel and trying to reach up to the heavens. And it's so silly. And this is why we read whenever we do things like that that God laughs. But you know, nonetheless, you know we're knuckleheads. He still loves us in spite of that.

37:45 And Whitfield does this and it's brought out in the movie that he doesn't eat for forty days. He's a mess. He doesn't come out of his room. You know, they finally, you know, they break into his room and get him out of there, and they're thinking, oh God, this place smells terrible, awful. But it was his own human I mean, he almost died, died in the process, but you know, God loved him through it and he survived. And here he goes. I mean he really he really got serious with God, and God elevated his faith and revealed things to him. It was so important that he carried out. And here he is coming to the Americas and saying wake up, O sleep or wake up right.

38:26 And you know, Whitfield works so closely with John Wesley, who's one of my heroes of the faith. And so when I read their stories of what they did, and you know, today we would look at what they what they went through just to speak the gospel, preach the gospel to people, and we think, wow, that's pretty extreme. It's like, No, that's what we're all supposed to be doing. I mean, that's the life. That's what it's about. And you know, so much of it goes back to what do you think your purpose on life is? Right? You know, it's not just to have all the good I mean, it's really to promote Christ. It's to get other people to live that life to where you're wedded to Jesus. Yeah, so this is going to be exciting.

39:11 I'm looking around with well, you know when you think about that, George, you know we do that naturally anyway, Right if we saw a ballgame where if there's a movie, you know, we talk about, Hey, I need to share this with you. Why wouldn't you share something as significant as the person of Jesus Christ that has in his hands and bore on the cross your eternal destiny. This dear season, John Deere wants to give you the home field advantage. We're bringing you the best offers of the season, whether that's cash off on select new machines or a shot at the ultimate Major League Baseball Prize package. Because right now you can enter for a chance to win an MLB All Star experience for you and three friends, complete with travel and.

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43:46 If you're going to have the find that these people outside the church coming to Chris having that deeper relationship. We put on a lot of great revival events. But the problem is we need within the church the body of believers first, so that when people come to us and they say, Wow, this is exciting, this is interesting. I don't know what to make of it. What do I do? They've got to be able to look at us and see us model the Jesus life. Right and part of the issue that we've got in the church right now, where when I look at all this research and look at the church to people alone, I just if I just study them, I see that we're not believing in sin. We're not believing there's much impact of sin on our lives. Where we're thinking. And this is tens of millions of people who are regularly going to Christian churches saying Jesus isn't the only way, Christianity isn't the only real true faith. You know, things like this, and I'm saying, oh my gosh, Lord, don't let the mission fuel come into the church. We're not ready for it. Z.

44:53 You know, it'll be like nine to eleven again, like you mentioned earlier, nine to eleven came the churches. You know, the doors were swung open, and it was only it was it was about a three week experience, George. Yeah, well yeah, four, five, six weeks, depending on the portion of the country with types of churches. There were a lot of different variables we saw. Okay, it can last a little bit longer in these environments, but it never lasts permanently. And I think it's because we need this renewal taking place in the church so that revival can stick. And again I'm now the theologians are going to jump on me and say, oh, you don't trust the Holy Spirit. I do trust the Holy Spirit. I do trust God. God knows what he's doing. My problem is, you know, he's using fallible people to do some of his work here. And we've got to get our act together.

45:44 We've got to show now we've been revived, you know exactly, that's what that renewal is. Well, and the Bible says we could look at the fruit, right, you look at the tree, the fruit of the tree, and it is it? Is it really indicating true revival? Because when you look I always go to, uh, you know what happened in Nineva Geordan, you know, and how critical leadership was. If the king himself I believe, had not led the way. Yes, the people kind of started to get it and there was a little bit of an organic grounds. Well, but what really tipped the tables when the king got it and he's tearing his clothes and he's saying, hey, sack cloth for everybody, including the animals. Right, there's something a pattern here, a model, and that this is not I mean, although right, now you can look at America and say, well, we have a president in the White House who talks about God, who exemplifies some godly principles. Again understanding he's a humanoid like the rest of us. But I'm just kind of in anticipation. If I can say this and you're in trouble, I might as well get in trouble. We'll be on the same boat again.

46:56 Come on board. But as yeah, I'm happy to do it, you know, because I'm I'm used to it, and I believe this is what God has brought me into this and given me this platform to do. But you have to speak truth to the matter. And my prayer is is that our leaders would see the revival and react to it, and rent their clothes and prostate themselves before a holy God and really ignite, you know, another great awakening. As Charles Finney said, you know, a revival happens when it's most needed. And as you cited these blemishes that are about America right now, I think we pretty much need it well. And all right, so if you're trying to get in trouble, I'm going to one up you here.

47:38 I'm gonna take that trouble and I'm gonna add to it. Okay, you're gonna have multiply it, buddy. Here's Bill and George one more time. Okay, Yeah, this man knows nothing. So you know, recently, Franklin Graham was good enough to send a note to President Trump saying, you know, I heard you talking about these things, and you said, you're not sure if you're going to get into heavy And let me tell you, if you just trust Jesus, you know, confess your sins and trust Jesus, you're gonna be fine, I promise you. And you know he said more than that, But those were some things, especially in there, right, and I read that. I love Franklin, and it's like, praise God that Franklin's got the boldness to do that. And I mean, he did it. I didn't, so kudos to him. But I'm just worried that nowhere in that message did it say anything about repentance. And so I'm thinking, Okay, yes, we want people to believe in Jesus and to trust him, but part of that proof that you're making that commitment is that you've said, okay, and the reason I have to trust Jesus is I'm a sinner and so I don't want to keep sinning. I've got to change my behavior so that I don't keep sinning. That's what repentance is.

48:57 I'm gonna I love Jesus, I'm going to trust him and to prove it, I'm going to change my life. I just wish some of that had been in that message as well. See, And I think what your studies indicate here is that the culture doesn't realize how sick it is. It is accommodated sin in such a way. You know, we think of it in terms of a venial consequence, if we can put it back in Catholic terms, but not realizing that any sin offends God, a holy God. And when we get to that position, God willing and by the grace of the Holy Spirit, help the world, because there would be an ignition of repentance and revival that would take place that would make all the other revivals pale and significance. If I might say, I.

49:46 Think a great test for each of us to go through is to recognize that America, spiritually speaking, has become comfortable with sin. Yeah, And so a great test each of us is to sit down in a time of reflection and meditation before God, ask the Holy Spirit to enlighten each of us. Enlighten me, you know, from myself, forget the rest of the world. They've got their problems. Absolutely, I'll pray for them. I'll help them, Like man, I got to deal with me and Holy Spirit, please help me to see what sins am I comfortable with one? Am I letting go and say well, yeah, that's not as bad as this sin over here. And I'm never going to do that. Yeah, but I'm going to turn a blind eye to this. I'm not going to talk to those people. I'm going to make them feel good about the you know, what are the sins that I am letting go of and saying, yeah, it's not worth fighting over. We have this mentality and I use this phrase a lot. You got to choose your battles. But we've got to be careful when we're talking about sin, that we don't see sin that way, that there are some sin battles that aren't worth fighting frankly, because it offends God, that builds a wall of separation between us and that Holy God. Exactly every sin is worth fighting over, exactly.

51:08 You know. It reminds me this season I have been highly engaged with the Hollow app, you know, one of the fastest growing you know, prayer apps, which which says a tremendous story the background of Alex Jones, not the Alex Jones the political commentator, but Alex Jones, this young man who was in pursuit of God and you know, kind of a similar story to mine, that God and his grace mercy allowed us to you know, venture out and discover other religions in search of God and philosophies and everything. And his background, he had engagement and meditations with other philosophies and that, and when he looked at Christianity and Catholicism, he goes, we don't have that, and so he created the Hollow app. And of course family said, what are your nuts? You know, this isn't gonna work. But anyways, said, just a tremendous success story. But one of the recurring themes of this Lenten season has been God empty me, God film me, God use me. God empty me. God filmed me. God use me. God empty me. God film me, God use me. Kind of what you're saying is that you've got to pour yourself out. And in pouring yourself out, and emptying yourself. Then it's it's taking all that muck and mired things that we don't know, those hidden sins.

52:32 The Bible talks about these things that we think are of no consequence. But you're asking the Holy Spirit come in, empty me, purify me, get it all out, and then fill me with those things that are right, noble and good and holy. Right, that's a beautiful thing. And now again, not to be a hammer, you know, seeing everything as a nail. But you know, I come back to the research and when you say that, one of the things that pops into my mind is the fact that most Americans don't believe the Holy Spirit is real. We think the Holy Spirit is a symbol of God's power or presence or purity, but not a living entity that can affect our lives.

53:12 And so that's an important first hurdle to get over, is that we allow the third person of the Trinity, that portion of the God had to be real to us and to affect our lives in a very significant way. When we cut God off from our lives by saying that I don't believe that party exists, that's a serious offense against God right. There, exactly. Yeah, so it's something that God says is the most worst thing you could do of all the sins, is blesspheing. The Holy the Spirit. Yeah right, you got it exactly. When you think about the Holy Spirit, I always say, you know, we have to return to our origins, to the beginnings and open up in Genesis one and you see the Triune God, the Holy Spirit himself hovering over the void and the chaos, right yeah, yeah, and you think you think his job's done now and that he doesn't exist.

54:07 Yeah. And one of the great things about it is if you've got the eye for it, you can see the Holy Spirit all through every every chapter, every every book in the Bible. And you know, I mean, like you say, you see it in Genesis one, and you go all the way through to Revelation at Man, the Spirit's having a home coming there. Yeah. Well, uh, doctor George is always thank you so much for coming on. Uh. You know, we're united in prayer that we would all, starting with us, become very serious about sin and that and this is a personal thing that we would do with God, and that God would search our hearts and because you know, whatever you want to get there, if it's you know, repentance, revival. It's God's will to be done, and that's what we want manifest, is God's will to be done, and that may we be agents of God's will right to promote it to others.

55:08 Yeah. I've often told people when they say, you know, do you have a business card, and they say, well, here's the one from the organization, but my personal business cards. As George Barne, Agent of Transformation, I love you because that's what I live for, is to see that happen. Well, Doctor George Barne, a director of research at Arizona Christian University's Cultural Research Center and author of Raising Spiritual Champions. The book still available at all the usual places, right, oddly enough, Yes, not oddly, Come on, well, doctor George is always thank you so much for being with us, and ladies and gentlemen, thank you for sharing a part of your day with us. May God bless you and keep you, may make his face shine upon you, May you be gracious unto you, and may you realize his peace.

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56:37 Eight hundred five O six four eight eight five, eight hundred five oh six four eight eight five eight hundred five O six four eight eight five. That's eight hundred five oh six forty eight eighty five. Getting America back on track. Bill Martinez Live, Hey, good morning America. Six minutes after the top of the hour. Right now, I'm Bill Martinez. He is Kenneth Abramowitz. Mister Cana, how are we doing? Great? Great? Great? Thank you always going to be connecting with you. Let's talk the latest, that crazy little place that's causing all kinds of attension. You know, you run, you know, to straight or not to straight, to bomb or not to bomb.

57:26 You know, we're at a bit of a bit of an impasse. What say you? Yeah, well, yes, we're to ask. By definition, we're basically playing a game of chicken between America and a rad and both in this race, both automobiles are going roughly one hundred dollars an hour, and the question is who's going to turn left or right or hit. Well. And it's always tough when you're in a game of chicken and you're and the other person in the car is death cultis so uh? You know uh, and and I and I and I understand, I have no delusion to think that whether it's Donald Trump or Marco Rubio or anybody else, UH is under estimating. Uh, you know, the craziness. And and Trump is giving them every potential, every way to work around this. But you know they're fixed.

58:24 They're fixed on their end game. And I don't see any movement whatsoever, do you no? And which is typical of death cults. There isn't death cults. They're called death cults. It's because they die, they they go down with the shipw In relatively recent history, World War Two, we saw the Nazi death cult die, in the Japanese Imperial Army death cult die. Now. Aiding the Japanese death were two atomic bombs in Nagasaki and Hiroshima, which finally can convince them to surrender. And Germany we just we the Allies in Russia just kept killing the leadership until Hitler killed himself and then that death cult died.

59:15 More recently, we've had the ISIS and al Qaeda death cults aft in the in the wake of nine to eleven. So now now we have another death cult. And one irony here is as President Trump tries to make it easier for them by lowering the bar, it actually decreases the chances that they'll come to the table. I'm glad you're saying that because that's my, you know, my gut reaction as well, because what do you have to do is continue to squeeze, just like you did in Japan, to where the forces that want to continue the war are deafened by those where there's enough reason that rains and said, look, we've lost you know, we got to pack it up. And fold it and and reluctantly the core of that death cult, you know, fades and goes to irrelevance. But they don't necessarily die altogether, do they.

1:00:11 Well, notice, going back to World War Two, Japan did not summer, did not surrender after one nuclear bomb. No, yeah, it took two. And if we were talking beforehand, just pretend we would have both forecasted that on one nuclear weapon and that's it, then they'll surrender. No, I think if I remember history correctly, a couple of weeks so so, yes, So we have to stay tough, tough, tough, and we shouldn't lower the bar. We should say, here's the fifteen things that we want around We'll say here's the fifteen things that we want, and then we should say, as President Trump has said, but we blockaded the straight of her moves. You're not selling any oil, which is most of your income, and you're going to run out of money, food, water, and everything else and have a nice day.

1:01:06 And when does their infrastructure, their oil infrastructure collapse, because we've been told, you know, for the last week and a half any day now. Yes, yes, so am I told through the internet and various websites that in about two weeks or so. Some people say three weeks, some say one week, but let's just say two weeks, they fill up all their storage area. And so therefore they're going to have to shut down their wells. And when you shut down your well, you destroy the pressure within the well and you basically destroy the well and you have to drill another well another day somewhere near nearby. So yes, they're going to end up ruining their oil industry. And bear in mind that the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corp. Owns approximately fifty percent of the GDP of Iran. They're like a business, They're the biggest business is in Iran. So they'll be destroying their own business. Some business people within the RGC are going to say, I don't want to destroy my own business, and other people will say, but we're at death count and America has to surrender. So that's why we're in a game of chicken. And just to finish the point, I think President if Trump, President Trump run with us today, he would say, look, i'm blockading the straight They're not getting eighty or ninety percent of their income. They're going to come to me eventually. I have time and have

1:02:37 a good day. Yeah, but what do you do carry negotiating position? Well, I like it to a degree. But and I'm sure Trump has thought about this, I mean, death culture crazy. And what happens if they say, hey, our tanks are full, so we're just going to start releasing oil into the strait. Yeah sure, yeah, and we'll pollute our own c and well, yeah, that's right. They can do anything that's unpredictable. But I think now, now bear in mind, each side thinks each other is going to surrender. So Trump, President Trump would say, oh, they're going to surrender. I don't know if it's in one month, two month, three months. And by the way, the midterms coming up in November. They can surrender before after the midterm, whatever suits them. And Iran is saying, oh no, no, President Trump's going to surrender because he's got the midterms and he wants this resolved before the midterms.

1:03:41 He'll surrender. And if we have to. Here's something in mind. When you're in a dictatorship, ten percent of the people are stealing all the money. They're going to eat. They're going to have their caliar voegra and share pay and whatever they want. It's the ninety percent of people who are going to suff It's which they would say, well, what do I care? Right, exactly well, and then they're looking at our media. I mean, their media is interesting. It's like Bagdag, Bob and Iraq all over again to hear them talk, and then our media picks up the narrative like it's one hundred percent valid. I mean, there's no question, no critical thinking, no critical positing on the reports coming out of Iran.

1:04:25 They take it wholesale cloth, and I mean it's amazing this. You know, you and I often talk about well, of course, in light of your book the multi front war. This is a multifront war that we're in, and you think of all the players, right, that's. Right, that's exactly right. It's it's basically all the bad guys in the world versus all the good guys in the world. Unfortunately, all the good guys in the world have sort of abandoned America, so it's really just America, Israel, and the UAE. I would say, those are only three real allies contributing on the bad guy side. You of course have besides around you have China and Russia right right behind them. And financing this mess. So now, one other thing you mentioned about media. When the bad guys look at our media, they get a mixed message. Some Republicans says, oh, I support President Trump. Some other Republicans says, I don't know about I don't know. Why are we fighting this war? And then the Democrats say, we certainly shouldn't be fighting this war. Why did we start this war? Now, let's end this war. And so you can see what a mixed message they get from us from our.

1:05:39 Media, and they're greatly encouraged, Thank you very much. The mainstream media, some Republicans, as you say, and certainly the Democratic Party Americans against them. This is just astounding to me. Let's go to quick break. We'll pick it up on the other side. More from Kennabramowitz. After this, this dear season, John Deere wants to give you the home field advantage. We're bringing you the best offers of the season, whether that's cash off on select new machines or a shot at the ultimate Major League Baseball Prize package. Because right now you. Can enter for a chance to win an MLB All Star experience for you and three friends, complete with travel and lodging for All Star Week This July Dear season is going on now through June third. Visit john Dar dot COM's last year season to enter and view the offers in complete contest rules. Major League Baseball Trademark sees with permission.

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1:10:27 Hey, welcome back Bill Martinez here with KENNETHA. Bromowitz. He's the author of the multipron for Defending America from Political Islam, China, Russia, pandemics, and racial strife. You might even add a little addendum ourselves. Maybe we need to protect ourselves, protect ourselves from ourselves. He is the founder of Savedthwest dot com. Can let me ask you this, what did you make of Trump's announcement to start taking troops out of Germany. Well, I think that was a good announcement. I think it was a very modest announcement, although he publicly said more to come, more to come. Keep watching right now, I would just send a signal like that. As opposed to one hundred thousand troops, I think we have seventy five thousand if I remember from the internet. But bear in mind, you're also sending a signal to Russia. Remember Russia's trying to take Ukraine, and right now Ukraine's winning and Russia's in big trouble. So if just pretend you're announced I'm taking almost all of my soldiers out, Russia would salivate and say, oh great, let's go tack some more countries. Isn't this fun. Let's see how much of Europe we can take over. So I think it should be of a token nature. Number one. Number two, my problem is pretending I'm in the Trump administration. My problem is not NATO itself, it's the country's in NATO. In other words, I'm not happy with the morons running England

1:11:59 and UH and to a lesser extent Germany. So I'm angry at the countries. I'm not angry at the concept of having a NATO, which is we all unite together, both the Europeans and America to protect Europe from Russia. I think that's still a valid concept. I think present Trump should be tougher on the leaders and say we need better leadership in Europe and go through pressure for regime change in European countries. Do you think Trump had just a little bit of a conversation with a king when he was out to say maybe a better look at your prime minister? Yeah? Well, I just wrote something on my website just today on the meeting with the King of England, and I said, everything's wonderful publicly, and I enjoyed the show. I enjoyed the speeches. It was very entertaining. And I said, but what were they discussing in private? And I said, well, I don't know what they're discussing in private, but I'm gonna guess what they discussed again private, One of which is where did you get that prime minister? And how can you get rid of him? He's hurting the UK tremendously and hurting the American UK relationship and it's time to get a new leader there. I hope that came up, even though it certainly didn't come up publicly.

1:13:21 No. Well, and and I think wisely. So every once in a while Trump gives you a little bit of breath because sometimes he shoots from the hip and you go, oh, why did you You didn't have to say that, but he did, And in this particular case, he was mining his manners and he did well. Like you said, I think the visit you're exactly right. I think the way you characterize it was very entertaining. It was fun, and it was hopeful. And you hope that the king somehow, you know though he tries to stay away from, you know, things political. It's like, how can you do that? How can you say you're gonna step away from things political?

1:14:04 Well, and another thing, he's saying, we have to have a strong relationship, which is true between the English speaking people here and there. That's great, But ninety eight percent of the problem is them. They're not We're not the problem. They're the problem. They're the one that losing confidence in the Judeo Christian society. They're the ones who are human rights violators, They're not protecting the ninety percent of the people who are Christian or the little one percent who are Jewish. And they're the ones who initially denied our use of their basis for our plans. So they're the ones who are the problem. We're not the problem. But it came off as if it was like an equal problem.

1:14:49 You know, we're not doing things, so well, they're not doing something, you know, and let's fix each side. No, no, let's fix them. That's what asked me. Done. Well, that's why I resent this argument. It goes on a nauseum about you know, there's we're there's wrong on both sides. You know, that just neutralizes the conversation. You know, that's right. Yeah, how silly is that? But you know, going back to what we were talking about in terms of the death cult and the mindset of Iran, I mean, you know, unless we forget, you still have Gaza being controlled, you know, forty five percent of Gaza controlled by that death cult amas. Yes, and also you have maybe a third of Lebanon controlled by his will a death cult. Right and here, and President Trump has put constraints on Israel on both scores because he's simultaneously working with a run on a deal, and he feels that if Israel is overpowering in Gaza and in Lebanon, it'll reduce the chances of a deal with a run. I if he asked my opinion, I would say the opposite. I would say, Israel pressure his and let Israel pressure from us and and and even if they can destroy him, destroy them, that'll put pressure on a round to come to a deal. And that's the way, as we discussed in the first minute of our conversation today, how we have to keep squeezing. And

1:16:21 Israel's happy to do a lot of the squeezing. Is like, that's the ally America ever had. So let Israel do the squeezing. If America doesn't want to do the squeezing. Right, well, and that's how you bring people to the table. And you know, because they'll be upset and saying, hey, you got to control that. You got to control BB and Israel from doing this. Well, you know, the only way to control them is you got to be nice. You know, we got to have peace talks. But they're not going to They're not going to do this, you see, because you know I'm with you on this. I don't think a deal is there to be had. Trump was right initially when he talked about unconditional surrender. That's what has to happen with a death cult. You have to get to that, to that matrix of an unconditional surrender, and you don't do it by hitting the pause button.

1:17:11 I'm sorry. Right now, Trump might have an ulterior motive. He has many ulterior motives that he doesn't tell us about, so we just want to guess he wants to show the American public. I did everything possible to end this war. I tried this, I tried that, I did this. I said that, look at how hard I am trying to stop this war. So that if and when we have to continue the war, or when President Trump says, I don't want to continue the war, but Israel I know you want to. You have a bone to pick whether run you finish the war. So America doesn't have to finish it directly, he can say to the American people, I tried everything possible. You don't like war. I don't like war. I tried to end the war. They're just they're looney tunes on the other side, and I just couldn't reach the deal that I thought was good for America, and that's why there's no deal. And I'm still blockading, I'm still pressuring, and but we'll work. The deal will come when it comes, and I think that's one of the ways to protect him and the Republicans for the midterms.

1:18:18 Well, you know, surprisingly, Ken, when you look at some of the polling that comes in, and I get pollings all over the place, and it's a snapshot, we understand that. But to hear our mainstream media, you think that the American people in mass are against Iran. But that's not what the polling according to, you know, the Harvard polling is saying recently, you still have a majority of people supporting Trump, and they're supporting these actions that Trump has been executing on behalf of the Middle East and on behalf of the American people. So it gives me encouragement to see that the American people are starting to see the long term and even short term gain here in executing this war against Iran, because a nuclear Iran is unacceptable.

1:19:06 And you know, we were told for many years, you know, by Barack Obama or Iran's not going to have a nuclear weapon. But in much the same way as he presented the case for you know, the Obamacare scam. You know, they just flat out lied and you could see that there was a sunset clause in this deal that they were, you know, going to be able to go nuclear, you know, down the road. And you know, they've been lying to us all these years. And this is after the fact that they've killed you know what, you know, thousands of Americans. Yeah, they've killed the one thousand or more Americans directly, I'm sure more indirectly they killed fifty thousand or so of their own people. And but one of the problems, and I agree with everything you just said, but I just have to add Ron declared war in America forty seven years ago, exactly is but our leaders purposely did not want to say, oh, by the way, mister, mister voter, we're in a war right now. Iron declared war on us, and we're in a war, and people go war, war, What I don't like? Where I like peace? What do you mean war? That would have put pressure on all the presidents before to do something about it, and no one wanted to do anything about it. And basically President Trump got stuck holding the bag. And as I think Harry Truman. President Truman said the buck stops here, and btically the buck stopped with President Trump. He knew he had to do something, even though the population didn't know

1:20:38 that we had to do something. It's funny that all the other presidents said, yeah, the buck stops here, but they treated it like a hot potato. Gets that away from me. Well, Ken, as always, we appreciate the time. Cannabromwood's author of The Multi Front War, Defending America from Political Islam, China, Russia, Pandemics, and Rachel Strife. He's also the founder of Save the West dot com. Thank you, Ken, take care, be well, pleasure to be with you. As always, everything is expensive right now, gas, food, you name it. You're spending more you are making the same or less money. So what do you do? You rack up credit card debt. That's what you do. It's not your fault, it's the economy. And guess what if you rack up too much credit card debt, like some of us, you can't pay your bills, then the credit card companies, as nice as they are, start hounding you for money. Then you start your downward spiral. A smart thing for you to do is to call the zero debt. They can help you consolidate all your credit card bills into one affordable payment. Millions of people have done it. It works to make you debt free. Make this free call right now. It costs you nothing to learn more.

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1:24:54 Injuries seemed to spike as temperatures rise, is what they tell us. Experts urge everyone to prepare for unexpected medical emergencies this summer, as injuries tend to surge during warmer months, often referred to as trauma season. Summer spikes emergency room visits nationwide as people, especially kids, spend more time outdoors. Bleeding emergencies can happen anytime, anywhere, and to anyone. A person can bleed to death within minutes after a serious injury if not treated immediately. This according to the American College of Surgeons, uncontrolled bleeding is a leading cause of preventable death, and quick intervention using bleeding control techniques can make a difference before first responders arrived. Here to tell us more about it is doctor Carlos Plasio of the ACS, and he's here to share some safety tips, how to handle bleeding emergencies, information on free bleeding control training, and what to always keep in your car or home. Doctor Plasio, Welcome, Michelle.

1:25:52 Good to have you with us. Thank you so much, Thank you real for having me. Well, Doctor Carlos, I got to tell you, I was surprised. I had never really thought about the risk of injury increasing during the summer months. But it makes sense, right, Yeah. People is out, they love you know, going cutting some trees, perhaps taking care of some of the grass and the front yard, and we just get in trouble during the summer. Huh right, Yeah, that's because we're just not used to working and doing all that kind of stuff, and anything can happen, you know, as they say, it's kind of Murphy's Law comes into play and the options are expanded during the summer months clearly. So let's talk about some life saving steps to help in any bleeding emergency.

1:26:38 Yeah, definitely. So we have three life saving steps. The first one is applying pressure to the wound. You know, we'll teach you how to do it. Usually this is done with your palm. If that doesn't help, then you will have to we will learn on how to pack the wound, you know, making sure that you use the appropriate tools. So you stop that bleeding. And if that doesn't help them, we're going to teach you how to apply the tourniquet. And of course we're going to teach you if it's appropriate to apply the tourniquet around that arm or the leg or the area where you have where you have the bleeding. Hm. Well, I got to imagine in your experience, doctor Carlos, you've got lots of stories to share, you know, real life stories of you know, when people were bleeding and and thank God for bleeding control training, right.

1:27:31 Yeah, Yeah, definitely. In my personal experience I have I've had a few cases in which, you know, people they're at a factory, they're working, they're outside, they're cutting some branch, and some of the co workers that had already learned these techniques are the ones that saved the life of this of this person. It's important to know bild time is critical. If somebody can bleed till death in minutes, so immediate action is essential for this to happen. We had another case recently with high high school students. He lost his unfortunately he lost his arm on graduation night after a crash bar I know, but his friends save him.

1:28:19 They all the techniques that they learned a few weeks before. They were able to put the turning it around and then saved the life. And that's very important, you know, like because otherwise he would have probably not not even make it. So I think these stories would really create some importance of the topic with the public and. What you're sharing here, Doctor Carlos, is something that anybody can do. It It isn't necessarily age restricted. Like you said, here's these high school students that otherwise, had they not had the training, would have panicked and and and wasted some precious time. As you say, in a bleeding incident, time matters.

1:29:02 Correct, very very important, It's very important. Same as it happened with CPR, the public anybody can definitely help and save somebody's life for sure. Well you mentioned CPR, it's like stop the bleeding. Training in CPR should go hand in hand. Right, correct, Yeah, they should go because again, this can happen anywhere. It could be a kitchen injury, workplace injury, car crashes. But we also live in a different era right now. On larger scale, traumatic events happens and we have to get ready for it. So if you don't get the professional help, you can save yourself and people around you by knowing these techniques as well during one of these events.

1:29:51 Well exactly, And as you said, it doesn't take a lot of time for somebody to bleed out, you know, help our audience understand, I mean, because you know, if somebody is bleeding, I mean, you know, as we've been stressing, you know, time is of the essence and a matter of minutes. I mean, what are you talking just in a just a regular situation. How much time before somebody actually bleeds out? Is that a fair question. Yeah, I mean, and again it's going to depend on where that leasion is. If it's very very close to the chest, I would probably going to tell you it's going to be a couple of minutes. Why because it's closer to the heart. So every time that heart is pumping blood by your arm and your chest, of course, it's going to be very quickly. If it's more distal, you have a few a little bit of time so that you can do the appropriate measures and save a life.

1:30:49 Well, we're talking with doctor Carlos Polascio. He's the chair of Southern Texas ACS Committee on Trauma. He's the director at South Texas Health System in McAllen, Texas. And this is you know, National Stop the Bleed Month, So we need to take note of it. And you know, you may be going to CPR classes, but you seriously consider doing something regarding bleeding because, as we've been talking about, with summer comes an increase in bleeding emergencies. And what are you. Going to do? You know, sometimes you think, well you can handle it with a band aid, but sometimes you know, these things can be pretty severe and if you've got a lot of blood, you know, coming out of a person's body. You know, you just got to I guess, doctor Carlos. The first thing is say, hey, just don't lose your mind, just breathe and get your senses together.

1:31:38 And of course, the more trained you are in handling these kind of emergencies, the better you're going to be in saving a friend or a loved one, right. Correct, Yeah, that's what we offering the classes so that the public is aware to take the appropriate steps and just don't let the priest just or the shark just get at you and you won't be able to do anything. So it's very important to get the appropriate education. So when the time comes, you're already you already know the steps on what to do. Well, tell us a typical class, what is it composed of and how do we sign up? Go ahead? Yeah, So the information is at to stop the bleed dot org forward slash Summer. I'm gonna repeat it again, to stop the bleed dot org forward slash Summer. You're gonna find all the training courses, but most importantly the class locations in your own area. So that's very important.

1:32:36 You can find where is the class going to be held in your own area? And and of course you're going to have the kids in there. How to buy them if you want to have one at home. But as I said before, they're commonly we find them more frequently at airport, school stadiums, places like that. The training is usually free, less than an hour. We teach you the basics how to perform all the maneuvers that we spoke before, and then we will give you some key information on what to do with different injuries. So I think this is important because this knowledge could save your life or some or any of your loved ones.

1:33:17 Yeah, and who doesn't have an hour to do this? I mean this is awesome. And these classes are readily available anywhere, just about anywhere across the country. Right correct, yes, sir? Okay? And you mentioned stop the bleed kit. What's inside stop the bleed kit? Yeah? So we have gloves to protect both the responder and the injured person person. You also have some gauss some tourniquets. The tourniquets would be your last step, but you also have trauma shares that basically helps cutting clothing for better access. You also have a permanent marker. That marker is very important because you have to write the time the Tourniquet went on, Yes, that's going to be very important for the physician at the hospital, physician that is receiving the patient, so we have to make some clinical decisions based on that time. And then finally you're going to have an instruction card, so for those that perhaps are in shock, you also are going to have a reminder in there on what are the steps necessary so that you can take you can save a life.

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1:39:00 How are you today? Hey? I'm in terriffic. Finally had a chance to see Michael with some friends. Yeah, I kind of honed in on their date night, and they brought me along because I'm I'm here in California and they tell me they're just such great people. It's good to have people that tolerate us. Yeah, exactly, And I need a lot of toleration. I'm in the same boat. Yeah exactly. So, but we saw we saw Michael, and I really you know, I'd been wanting to see it, and this was a first chance, so I forced myself into their date night. But yeah, it was good, you know, the music, and to be reminded again of the genius the exceptionalism of Michael Jackson. He was just so extraordinary.

1:39:43 Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I mean, and I think that there is in our ongoing conversation about whether the American dream is dead, these sorts of stories remind us there are still people who combine extraordinary talent, extraordinary vision, and hard work to achieve things that might seem unimaginable. You know, we see how Michael says, I'm going to be the biggest pop star in the world. Yeah, and he does it, and you know. He has non racial right. That was interesting that that brought up, and it seemed, I mean, his ethos seemed to be very consistent with one Michael Jordan right that he was there, he was going to be an entertainer for the people.

1:40:29 Yep. And I think, you know, I don't want to sound like an old fuddy duddy, right, but I think there is a dignity in the grind. And we have so much and sometimes when I hear people complain about how hard things are, I know things are hard. I have experienced it, my parents have experienced it. I don't want to minimize that. But I also think I wonder if one of the things that is gotten lost in our you know, always on our phone's instant gratification world, is what I might call the dignity of the grind, that when you want something, not everything happens instantly. Some things don't happen at all, no matter how hard we try.

1:41:16 But that when we talk about, oh, the American dream is dead, I'm like, well, what if it's not dead, It just takes more than four months to try to make it work. You know, I think I think that we're culturally impatient. And again, I know, I'm sure that lots of people could critique that point of view, but I think stories like that one remind me, Yeah, it's it's still possible to chase our dreams. And I think that's why those sorts of stories resonate with us so deeply, you know. And it reminds you, like you said that, you know, merit counts, hard work counts exactly. He was very committed and focused, and I'd never really had been aware of that, you know, you just you know, you see you see his brilliance on stage, and yeah, it flows so naturally his dancing skills and everything. But you know, you don't realize he did his homework.

1:42:12 He did, he did, And I've never talked about this before. My mom was a professional pianist. She was the staff accompanist for the string department at Drake University in Des Moines, so for all of the string students, she was the one who played for their final performances. So I grew up in a home where there was constantly violins, cellos, rehearsing, drove me crazy. I had no ability as a kid to appreciate how amazing it was. But she said, here's the point. You're like, what's the point, Adam, Get to the point. Here it is. She said, almost without exception, the most talented musicians that she worked with were not the ones who who had it going on. It was the ones who worked hard. And she said, hard work almost always trump's talent. You can have all the raw ability in the world, but if you don't put the work in, you're never going to see you know, that possibility realized completely. And that's always stuck with me that it isn't it isn't really about talent, but it is about how hard you work. And I want to believe that that's still even in our crazy world today, with so many things that we can become anxious about, that it still matters showing up, working hard and just giving yourself to the grind has dignity, and that God honors that too in our spiritual walk.

1:43:38 Right exactly, well, I think, And I can't remember the musician's name, but I'll never forget what he said about scales. He said that, you know, he practiced scales every day. Yeah, he said, if he didn't practice scales every day, he said, after a week, he said, the critics might begin to know it is something off, he said. And he went on and said it was months of not practicing his scales where he got delinquent. He said, Then the audience might begin, he says, But the musician himself always knows before anybody else. Right, Yep, No, that's exactly right. And I think I think one of the dangers, and there are they are myriad of our current AI age is that for so many things there's now this instant shortcut. And I know that there are things that AI you know, does that can be redemptive, that can make us more efficient. But when it comes to artistry, when it comes to music, when it comes to writing, when it comes to even you know, video creation, we're entering into this strange time where you can struggle and work to create something and take hours to do it, or you can throw a prompt and chat GPT and have it crank out something in five minutes. And just teaching our kids that there is there is value in that hard work and the process of learning and what we used to call paying your dues. And I fear that that AI is short

1:45:09 circuiting that for a generation growing up with it. No, you're right, I agree with you that it will have its impact. But you know, the thing we love about the truth is the cream always. Rises to the toil does right. And so what will happen is the generations forward will realize that yes, okay, maybe it gives them a leg up, and it gives them a launching pad at a higher elevation, but that's just the launching pad. You still got to get up in the air and get the job done right. Oh, that's right. And that is something I think we're working through societally, and we're seeing it turn up, you know, and entertainment in strange ways, with you know, Taylor Swift trying to you know, trademark her image and her voice, and you know, you've got these creatives who are trying to make sure that they don't get taken advantage of it.

1:46:02 There are all sorts of tendrils that we could talk about here with regard to how it impacts us. But when you come back to it, especially when it comes to entertainment, the story is what matters. And human stories like Michael, they entertain us because they offer us a reminder of what it means to strive for something big and I think that we need that, we need that redemptive and aspirational sort of voice in our lives. Well, it reinforces that it's possible exactly. I mean, this is what hope is all about. That's what hope is all about, exactly exactly.

1:46:42 So anyway, I was impressed. I think it's a good movie. And obviously there's going to be part two. In part two we'll probably get into some of the not so pleasant part of his aneosyncratic career in life. Yeah, it may not be quite as much the feel good movie that. The first was. Just keep the music playing. We want to see we want to see music videos. But like I say, it reminds you of, you know, what we went through during this period of time, and what he offered creatively and how he advanced I mean, here was MTV didn't want to play any black artists, right, Oh, I know it's hard to think that that was the case, you know.

1:47:22 I know, it is hard really to get your head around all of that. And that's you know, some of what we see depicted in this movie. All right, let's talk some other movies, what else you got up your sleeves? So we have another really interesting one. It's called Remarkably Bright Creatures. It stars Sally Field, who I can't remember the last time I saw a movie. A new movie with Sally Field in it. She plays basically a janitor cleaning lady, if you will, named Tova, at an aquarium. She lost her son thirty years before in a horrible accident, and there's still chatter about whether her son committed suicide or what really happened. And now her husband has died and she is really alone, and she talks to or vents to an octopus at the exhibit named Marcellus, but she doesn't know that Marcellus is a wise octopus. Marcellus is our narrator for the movie. Marcellus is also dying, and he realizes that Tova is really going to be all alone once he passes, and so he's trying to help facilitate her relationship with a troubled young man named Cameron who has started working there. And so it's a movie about friendship, about second chances. There's enough profanity here to get into PG thirteen rating, which I think is unfortunate.

1:48:43 That said, This is not the kind of movie kids are going to have any interest in whatsoever, So I think it's pretty navigable for adults. And ultimately there is a redemptive message here. It's a pretty nice movie. I just you know, do we have to have f bombs in a movie like? It just feels gratuitous and unnecessary. Project Hill Mary Come, Yeah. Right, Project Hill Mary is Back. It's probably the biggest movie of the year just in terms of box office, and it is a terrific you know, save Earth by going into space, by figuring out why the sun is dying. It stars Ryan Gosling as a as an astronaut who's on a mission to save Earth, and when he wakes up from cryo sleep, his fellow astronauts are dead, so it's all on him. It's by sam Is Sam Weir, the author Andy Weir my bad who also did The Martian.

1:49:45 So very realistic, feeling science fiction and really hopeful, redemptive movie. Again. I think it did well because this is the kind of movie we want to see in theaters and now at home. Yeah, somemmer around the corner. What do we have to look forward? Well, we have Mandalorian and grogo. Next week we'll have the Supergirl movie, We'll have a Spider Man movie, so you know, superheroes and star wars just like every other summer pretty much. So get ready it's time for a popcorn, the big gulp and have some fun movies with the family, hopefully more family friendly so we can have all the chillen's in there.

1:50:26 Right, exactly, all the chillen's. And of course plugged in dot com is where you want to come to find out what is in those movies, so you can not have those face palm moments as a parent where you're like, yeah, we got to turn this one off or we got to leave. So face palm applied to yourself or. To your kids exactly exactly. Adam Alts from plugged in dot Com, Thank you, Adam, take care, God bless you, Bet, Thanks vote. Streaming TV is where it's at. It's not about cutting the cord anymore. That's old news. It's all about your customized TV options with the best and cheapest high speed internet and your own TV subscriptions. We've got your dream TV lineup between wired and satellite internet and TV. You now have tons of options, save money and get more internet speed and better TV today.

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