May 13, 2026
The Bill Martinez Show 05 13 26
The Bill Martinez Show 05 13 26
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Are you ready?
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Yeah?
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Okay, us doing Ill Martinez Live a program about current events,
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our culture, our values, our politics, and our future.
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And now Bill Martinez.
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Hey, good morning, six minutes after the top of the hour.
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Right now, Bill Martinez here with doctor Michael Butsler, Public Policy,
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endless economics expert, professor of Finance at Stockton University in
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New Jersey. Mister Michael, how you doing, sir?
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I'm doing very well, Bill. Thanks for having me. As
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you know, it's always my pleasure.
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To be here. It's always great to have you here
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to talk about all things that have to do with
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our finances. One of the things I've been yelling and
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screaming about here recently, Michael, if I can divert for
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just a second, and that has to do with Social Security.
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As we continue to move closer and closer to bankruptcy.
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I mean, we're hearing maybe we might be lucky to
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get twenty thirty three, twenty thirty four unless something is
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done about it. But they're flat out ignoring it. And
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I am trying to rally everybody involved with Social Security
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and soon to be involved with Social Security to start
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screaming and yelling to Congress to say pay up, Suka.
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You owe us over two trillion dollars here, and you're
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ignoring this huge problem, and as.
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Right you should. The problem is a little worse than that.
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By when I looked at the numbers, it looked to
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me like they're going to run out of money in
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about five years twenty thirty one. So let me tell
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you this has a problem. This is a problem where
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there are no good solutions. There are no good solutions.
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So when you have a problem with no good solutions,
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you try to find the solution that's the least bad.
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So how do we do that? So there are three
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things we can do. So right now, we're spending more
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money than we're bringing in in tax income. So what
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can you do? One You can try to bring in
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more in tax income by raising the Social Security tax,
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which is all already at twelve point four percent. You
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pay half, your employer pays half for you, twelve point
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four percent. Some suggestions say raise that to fifteen percent.
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I think that's a counter productive. It's going to put
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a burden on working people and everybody I know if
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you ask them, are you over taxed? I live in
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New Jersey, so it's particularly cute, but they are everybody.
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Everybody's wearing a T shirt in New Jersey and says
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I'm over tax don't even ask exactly.
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So raising taxes I think is out of the question.
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Option two, you could reduce the benefit. Now you have
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people that are paid into that system for forty forty
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five fifty years, and you're going to tell them we're
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going to reduce your benefit. I don't think that's going
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to work. And secondly, we have a responsibility to elderly people,
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especially those who are paid in to make sure that
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they have sufficient income or at least the best we
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can do. So cutting benefits I don't think is an answer.
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Raising taxes I don't think is the answer. So what's
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the third option. The third option is to raise the
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retirement age. Now social Security is currently sixty seven. Medicare
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which is another problem, but social Security is currently sixty seven.
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I think that's got to be raised to at least
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seventy maybe in the future up to seventy two. Now,
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people tell me, I'll wait a minute, somebody who's sixty
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seven to ask them to work three more years. That's
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a pretty tough thing to do. And I say to them, look,
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when social Security was first passed in nineteen thirty five.
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You collected at sixty five. The average life expectancy was
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sixty seven, so you collected for a couple of years
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and the system worked. Today, people are living a lot longer.
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If you retire today, the Social Security will tell you
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plan to live for twenty years. They're telling you most
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people now are going to live well into their eighties.
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And when I look, not to be morbid, but when
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I look at the obituaries, I see people there every
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day in their nineties. Usually once or twice a week
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you see somebody it's over one hundred. You can't possibly
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start collecting at sixty seven I expect to collect for
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the next thirty years. Simply isn't going to work. So
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I would raise the retirement age up to seventies so
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you'll get people working a little longer. That will increase
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the revenue coming in. You'll get people retiring later, that'll
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reduce the revenue going down, and that should help solve
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the problem. Now, people say to me, that's not a
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good solution, and I agree with them, that's not a
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good solution. But it's the least bad solution that we
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can have of the three so I think raising the
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hirement age really, as soon as we can get around
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to doing it, it's probably the best alternative. We raise
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it from sixty five to sixty seven, and I do
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it gradually, we raise it. I think it's just going
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to have to go up further otherwise the system's not going.
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To work well. The thing is today, Michael, people are
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working longer, and they're working longer because they want to.
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It's not necessarily a social security thing. It's just, hey,
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look at I like my job. I like to stay productive.
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It's what keeps me alive. It gives me a reason
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to wake up every day. You know, it's a healthy decision.
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And I think that you can get in front of
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that in such a way that it could be positive.
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I don't think that that's much of agreements, especially as
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you say, when you look back when it first started,
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you know, the Actuary Table said here's here's the life expectancy,
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and this was a moderate deal. And of course I
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don't think that we and I say we the people,
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you know, realize the kind of nefarious people that we
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were electing into office that they would dare go to
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the treasury and steal the people's mind the way they
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have and to create a Ponzi scheme. You see, in
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addition to these things that you're talking, I think the
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retirement age, that's my favorite of what you offered. But
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what we're saying is that, look at I want to
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collect the tariff's money that we're collecting. I want fifty
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percent of that tariff's money to go in to social
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security anything that like right now, the money that's captured
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by the FBI from these drug cartels and these criminals
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and everything. Michael, do you know where that money goes
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when they collected.
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Into the treasury and it just goes in with all
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the other money.
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Yeah, I mean. And what I've heard also is that
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not only is it go it just in a general fund,
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which is like it's it's almost like, you know, like
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a little rainy day fund that they get to have
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to themselves, it also is almost to the it goes
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to the FBI, so they have almost like the first
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you know, DIBs on that money. And I'm saying, hey,
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all that money needs to go in to into replenishing
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the debt the Congress owes to the American people in
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excess of two trillion dollars and I think that if
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we started focusing on and saying, look at your number
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one job is to revive Social Security, get that money
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back there, maybe it would minimize some of the goofy
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things that these guys want to spend money on.
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Yeah, it certainly would. So I agree with you, Bill.
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Any way that you can increase revenue without raising taxes
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on anybody, I think is a great idea. And there
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are pockets of money that come in as you mentioned,
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that could go in to help, and you know, maybe
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that would not have to raise a retirement age quite
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as far as I think now, I think it's going
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to be seventy. I think within a few years I
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have to probably go up to seventy two. But maybe
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if you had some other revenue sources you could keep
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that number down a little bit.
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So, but I think you do have to deal, and
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I think most people are open minded to look at
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and say, okay, we need to raise it some moderate level,
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you know, six, and you do it incrementally, as you said,
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you know, from sixty seven, you know, maybe every two
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year whatever, you just add a year. Because the fact
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of the matter is is that, hey, you know, of
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all the bad things have been saying about the life
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expectancy and what's happening and the dangers here in America.
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You know, people are living longer. You know our medicine.
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You know, with all the scrutiny our medicine has gone through,
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you know, maybe they're doing a better job. I think
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people's lifestyles are such that they're eating healthier. They're really
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have taken to heart what Yogi Bear said that when
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he said that if I knew I was going to
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live this long, I would have taken better care of myself.
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I think people are taking better care of themselves.
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Yeah, I do too. My kids are in their thirties
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and they exercise it regularly. They eat healthy. I keep
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telling them, you do this, and you're going to live
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very long life. I have a calling of my as
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a future I'll I'll tell you what.
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