How Did We Get Here And Why Is It In Conflict With Our Constitution?

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FORCY Radio. Well, good afternoon, great to have you with us.

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I'm Bill Martinez, and I'll tell
you you know, the majority of America

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says we're on the wrong track.
I said, great observation. Now what

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are we going to do about it? Right? The question that comes up,

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well, how did we get here? And why are we in such

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conflict with our constitution? Has this
been done by accident or has this been

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purposefully delivered to us? And meanwhile, we're just so overwhelmed by all the

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chaos that's going on we can't even
pause for a moment to say, look

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at let's fix the problem. Let's
do something about it. Well. On

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September seventeenth. Okay, we celebrated
Constitution Day, or we should have anyway,

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as we've been saying on this show
and even in our morning broadcast our

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radio show, is that we encourage
our listeners and our viewers to reassociate themselves

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with the US Constitution. What a
brilliant document that in the Declaration of Independence.

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Great time to sit down and read
it and probably have the lightbulbs go

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on, because you're gonna go,
wow, our founding fathers gave us this

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incredible document for us to follow that
it really sets up an infrastructure that is

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designed in such a way to produce
results that yield freedom and liberty for us.

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Can you imagine that? I mean, that's how great this document is,

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two hundred and forty seven years,
the longest standing document I think in

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modern history that has been able to
withstand. That's how successful, how powerful

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it is. But yet there are
these antithical forces that kept chipping away at

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it and question whether or not that's
what our Constitution said. But the fact

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of the matter is, I mean, it's like it's basically like our birth

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certificate. And I want to bring
our guests on Daniel Nattel, Daniel and

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I have known each other for a
number of years. I've just so appreciated

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his academia, his his research,
and his intellect. He's a business ethics

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teacher and use analysts and commentator.
And Daniel Natal joins this now. Daniel,

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welcome to the show. Hey,
thanks for having me. Bill.

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Hey, Daniel, you know,
I look at the Constitution and the Declaration

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of Independence as being you know,
our birth certificate. I mean, would

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I question your birth certificate? He
would if I always Barack Obama. Yeah,

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it's funny that you're that this topic
is kind of trenchant right now,

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because I'm working on a book right
now regarding kind of the legal subversion of

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the Constitution and not just the Constitution, but our whole legal system via what's

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now being called critical race theory,
or the earlier iteration of it called critical

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theory. And the whole premise of
it was, how do you subvert a

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nation without an overt revolution? And
their solution to that was, let's go

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to the legal system and let's have
them reinterpret what words mean, you know,

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let's have them reinterpret like, for
instance, in our original kind of

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jurisprudence, you know, kind of
history, our legacy. It was the

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concept that equality before the law,
right, But they had a legal scholar

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named Derek Bell in the nineteen seventies
and nineteen seventy three in fact, and

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he published this book and you know, a Harvard Law school where he basically

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says, no, we shouldn't have
equality before the law. We should interpret

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it as the laws as a tool
of social engineering, where we put a

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thumb on the scale so that it
doesn't just work for the majority, but

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that it works for a minority.
And basically it was that minority is not

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racial minorities or gender board. It's
really an oligarchical minority. You shift the

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whole way that the system that's and
people bought into that. Yeah, well,

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I mean if you look in the
history of it, it looks like

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it may be like large portions of
it were funded by the Central Intelligence Agency.

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One of the guys who first conceptualized
before Derek Bell, Derek Bell was

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like in the sixties and seventies,
and before him back in the in the

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forties, fifties and sixties was a
guy named Herbert marcusa from the Frankfort School,

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and he was part of something called
the Institute for Marxism in Frankfort,

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Germany, and he might like that
shouldn't be a warning. Yeah, it's

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exactly right. So it's like,
how do you change how do you change

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the DNA of the society? Right? And so there's a book called The

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Thinking and Systems by dune Ella Meadows
and she's a bad guy. She's part

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of Club Club of Rome and everything
she's passed on unfortunately. But she wrote

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in her book Thinking in Systems that
the education system, academ is the DNA

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of the society because like DNA,
you're passing on information generationally. Exactly,

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it's the genetic code. So if
they can change the syllabus, they can

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change the genetic code of the society. You know. So a lot of

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the operating the assumptions that you have
in a society are subverted if you change

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kind of the legal structures, the
academic structures. And so that's what they

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set out to do, probably very
soon after the Kennedy assassination. If you

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look at the timeline sixty four sixty
five, the Ford Foundation with grants from

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the CIA, about seventy percent of
the grants were funded by the Central Intelligence

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Agency to do kind of what's now
called lawfare, where you take over legal

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structures, the law schools, you
reinterpret how the constitution is. You know,

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you're hearing just recently the news that
governor who said, oh, well,

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the Bill of Rights, you know, is not absolute. You know,

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these are new kind of formulations that
they're rolling out trying to get into

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the public consciousness, you know.
But she got slammed down pretty quick,

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you know. The unfortunately it didn't
take long. But this is the challenge

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with some of these attacks on our
liberties in our constitution. Some cases,

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like what we experienced with COVID,
it took a couple of years, and

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I think we're still kind of,
you know, recoiling from the effects of

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the infringement that you know, these
federal officials took up took upon us.

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I want to unpack a little bit
more about the CIA's involvement. But before

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that, I mean, if you
go back into the history of public education

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or the turn of the century,
would Dewey and that they realized it was

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going to be a slow but progressive
walk through the institutions. But to your

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point, they knew that education was
absolutely key, and it's just been one

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progressive step after another. And then
you reach a benchmark in the mid sixties

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and you see the CIA Shenanigans,
which if you look at the history of

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the CIA during that period of time, their involvement in Vietnam, all the

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rug running they were doing and got
away with it. We can't talk about,

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uh you know, I mean the
CIA in and of itself is probably

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one of the most subversive, subversive
forces within our government. Yeah, well,

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I mean, just to go back
to Dewey. Right, So at

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the turn of the century, there's
a great book by Alex Newman, and

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Alex Newman had me do the audio
book for his book, Crimes of the

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Educators, and he goes through like
the history of this and he talks about

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like Edward Edward Thorndyke in nineteen nineteen
says, uh, you know, the

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children should not be educated, they
should be trained like animals. And do

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we said that the the illiterates were
too high, not Illiterac series, the

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literac series. He wanted us to
be dumber, you know, a dumb

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down population that was constructive to get
us back to a surf level. We'd

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gotten too many freedoms that the average
people and they wanted to roll that back

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by making us, you know,
kind of less literate. I mean,

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you can see that in the book
that John Taylor Gadder writes wonderful books on

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the subject, and so does Charlotte
is Orbi with the deliberate dumbing down of

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America, and so that's part in
parcel. I mean, they've been doing

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this for one hundred because they're they
were afraid of revolution. If you read

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you know, books by like the
British author Sake or William Dean Howells,

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like at the turn of the last
century, they very explicitly the ruling class

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was terrified of revolution because you have
to remember that at that time period they

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were coming out of like the generation
of eighteen forty eight, where there was

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all these revolutions, monarchies fell,
republics rose up in their place. So

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the oligarchical class was just terrified of
average and they still are. That's why

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this this assault on Donald Trump and
populism, and you know, populism is

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bad populism mastico, because they're just
terrified and their solution is kind of having

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a dumb down populace and then you
reinterpret their documents so that like they don't

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they can't even read them. They
don't understand. Like, for instance,

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we see free speech and we're like, oh yeah, free speech ya.

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The younger generation sees free speech and
they're like free speeches, hate speech.

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Or we see self determination and local
government, We're like yeah, representative government

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yea. And then the younger generation
is like, you know, states rights

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is racism is slavery. You know, like you see them being in cultate

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with this, with this new ideology
to change the DNA of the society.

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You know, is it is it
holding Daniel? Because I see people are

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breaking out where you know, they're
you know, just by a matter of

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experience. Like I tell my kids
all the time, experience defines preference,

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and we've had, we're getting a
lot of experience right now in this information

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age that we're living in, and
I think that's a positive thing. Number

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one. Number two is you have
the exercise of cumulative intelligence. And I

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thought that that came on full display
again, you know, referencing COVID,

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and what we went through is that
the cumulative in intelligence of the population demonstrated

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that they weren't necessarily going to fall
in line with all these mask mandates and

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some of these silly things that we're
being you know, thrown upon us.

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And then now all these things that
we are accused of being, you know,

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tinfoil hat wearing conspirators about they're finding
out that we were more right than

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wrong and uh and our premises saved
lives, kept people away from ventilators and

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uh and and jettison with you know, remdesvie and uh, you know,

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kept them away from their families dying. M. Yeah, it's funny that

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you that you kind of touch on
that kind of the cumulative intelligence of the

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population, and you said something like
the internet, right, so just just

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to circle back to what it was
just talking about a little earlier, the

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Guttenberg press, Right, So in
the fifteen hundreds, he comes up with

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the printing press, and suddenly reading
can filter down to normal people. Right,

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it's not every manuscript isn't super expensive, copied by a month of hours,

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and suddenly people can read. And
so they realized that. Soon after

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that you had a bunch of revolutions
because the people were like, hey,

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I don't have to be a slave. What is this? And so the

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modern equivalent to that is the internet, right, where people are getting all

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this information and now they're terrified and
they want to roll that back, you

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know, and and it's it's to
see we're going to see if they can

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do it. Probably not if you
look at history. But I mean they're

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they're shaking in their boots and to
the extent that they're they're so paranoid,

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which is why they do these lockdown
things. And they're going to have all

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these these excuses and pretext to do
lockdowns because it's not to protect us.

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I mean, who said that,
Albert kemu We said that. Uh,

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you know, like expediency is the
excuse of all tyrants. You know where

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Oh I had to do it.
This pandemic was here, I had to

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do it. There was a cyber
attack or something Muslim. The emergency authorization

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use, you know, that's that
that's the trump card on everything. Right.

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Uh, we're talking with Daniel,
like that governor, that governor with

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the guns trying to get she used
emergency emergency authorization. Dan Nuttall is our

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guest, a business ethics teacher and
news analysts and commentator. Uh, and

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we're talking about here we find ourselves
today in America and how did we get

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here? It has been a slow
progressive process. But Daniel Lutella after everything

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is all said, I have a
lot of hope in the American people again,

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you know, talking about this cumulative
intelligence and this awakening that's happening.

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I mean, you've got a president
that wants us to believe that his economic

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system is working, and clearly it's
not, because immediately after he makes a

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statement like that, we go and
buy gas and go four or five dollars

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a gallon and working at all,
or we go buy a half gallon of

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milk and we're going wait a minute
here, you know, and you've got

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what sixty percent of America living paycheck
to paycheck, and there's a lot of

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pain and suffering right now because of
the policies of this president and this ruling

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party. I'm trying to I was
just just today, just before I was

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talking to you, I was talking
to an investment banker, and he's a

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sustainability guy. He's a guy on
the left right, he's not a conservative,

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but even the guy on the left
sees what's happening. Like, for

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instance, he will admit that the
carbon and stuff, oh go and gets

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carbon. He was like, yeah, carbon, what they're doing is mondizing

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it to make secondary markets and sell
it with carbon boods, so he knows

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that it's all scamming for economics.
But one of the things that we were

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talking about was they're synthetically making energy
more expensive, right, Like they're shutting

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down refineries, they're getting rid of
nuclear power plants. They made Germany get

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rid of seventeen nuclear power plants.
You know, they're they're kind of using

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the EPA to ban the harvesting of
uranium and all these natural resources. Like

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for instance, Biden just recently didn't
renew a bunch of energy exploration leases exactly,

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and so they're doing this on purpose
to make energy far more expensive.

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Now here's the thing, there's actually
a way out, and I'm going to

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have a meeting on this. It's
a little white pilling. There's something.

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I was reading a book called the
Future of Supply Chain, and they were

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talking about supply chain one point zero
is like they give an example, would

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be like you get a fruit cup
at the supermarket. It's harvested in Honduras,

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then it gets shipped all the way
to Indonesia, and then from Indonesia

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all the way back to California,
from California distribution centers to you know,

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all over the us, and you
look at that one little fruit cup.

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All the energy and the cost that
is, you know, kind of built

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into that. Now there's something called
supply chain two point zero that's just emerging,

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and it's basically if you could use
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things. So instead of a supermarket
going all the way around the world like

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that, you make a contract with
the farmer a mile down the road,

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right, and it makes sense.
It's not as subject to the destablization to

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the supply Now here's the thing that
that does. Those multinational corporations that kind

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of rule the planet they want because
of the supply chain. They want to

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erase our borders. They want to
basically they want all the laws harmonized in

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the world. They want all the
tariffs gone, they want the borders race

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because it helps the supply chain,
it gets rid of friction. If we

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go to supply chain two point zero, where everything is localized, you're draining

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their power. It's like draining the
swamp. You're draining their money. And

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so I want to have talks with
him on like how we can use this

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to basically decentralize everything again like what
our constitution called for. We were a

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decentralized civilization, like Aristotle says that
in politics. He says that agrarian societies

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tend to because they're decentralized, they
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have republics to get back to that. You know exactly, yeah, I

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mean what a common sense idea,
Daniel. I mean, we'll see.

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So this might work in our favor
that Biden's raising the energy costs. The

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more he raises those costs, the
more he's making it more expensive to get

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that fruit cup. Right, So
so it's not going to behoove them to

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go get slave labor in Indonesia or
China or something like that. It'll actually

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be tieber because it's so expensive to
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chain two point out. So I'm
gonna see if we can, if we

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can do like a pilot program,
you know, that'd be that'd be great

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because you know, you're exactly right, one way or another, this is

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going to happen because we have that
that natural dynamic of the you know,

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the mother of invention is necessity,
right, I mean it finally, it

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just it just comes boiling up to
the top and uh, you know maybe

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I don't know. Hopefully in our
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sooner or later, because people are
in a lot of pain right now

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because of you know, Bidenomics,
that common sense can begin to rain and

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people can get back to work truly
be happy and be able to pay their

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pay for their groceries and get alpha
this you know, this credit card debt

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at a trillion dollars plus, Daniel, This is indentured servitude. This is

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owning your soul to the company store
kind of stuff. It's fun It's funny

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you mentioned that because I just was
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I was talking to a friend.
He's at the Central Bank of Canada,

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and he was telling me there's this
website called wtf Happened in nineteen seventy two?

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And you go there and you see
all these economic charts, and one

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of the economic charts showed that the
more productive a worker was, the more

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they got paid up until nineteen seventy
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the workers got four times more productive
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And so what happened to the extra
money that they were generating and went

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up to the shareholder class, right
exactly. And that money fifty trillion dollars

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and estimated fifty trillion, was siphoned
away from the working class and basically got

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sucked out of the country. And
here's the thing. Because of those supply

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chains, there's multinational corporations, it
gets sucked out to them, right,

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And so if you do supply chade
two point zero, you basically will get

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the money circulating in the community and
not sucked out. But one of the

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things that I was talking about,
so they basically stopped paying like we should

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have been getting raises, and we
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took the raises, and so what
do you do? So this causes a

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liquidity crisis. Fifty trillion dollars is
sucked out, So how do you keep

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doing transactions? So their solution was
credit cards. So all of a sudden,

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they started giving credit cards to normal
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college. Oh, here's a credit
card, you know, college debt,

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and it exploded. But now it's
hurting the economy. So now that they're

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looking for another patch, and their
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Right, But all of this would
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was put back into the economy,
you wouldn't have to do all these stupid

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patches if you paid people living wages. Right, So we should actually be

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getting paid like four times more than
what we're getting paid right now, and

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you know hopefully, Well, how
does that money come back, Daniel?

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I mean, you know, do
we gotta run it through Ukraine and money

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launder them? Exactly? Well,
well, most of it was used to

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build out just to hitting a dead
horse, beating a dead horse, to

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build out the global infrastructure. So
you look at these memes and all have

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the meme of like Hong Kong,
and it'll be this is Hong Kong nineteen

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nineteen, it just looks like sand
flats. This is Hong Kong in twenty

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twenty three, and it looks like
Manhattan. Well, where did all those

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buildings come from? Where did the
ports come from? Where did the roads

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the bridges that came from the fifty
trillions stolen from Americans that went out to

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build those those global supply chains,
and all the jobs got sucked out of

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all the factories got sucked out under
ep AT fake EPA regulations. There was

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a guy named Eduardo Porter who wrote
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and he talks about in the nineteen
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dioxide and that was their back doorway
of banning factories, and then they move

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them over to East Asia. So
we can reverse this, like imagine reversing

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that. And that's that's what I'm
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sorry, that's awesome. That's excellent
because I was reading a little bit about

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it earlier this week to see what
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the timing of this conversation couldn't be
more perfect, because you know, you

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look back and what happened. You
know, the labor force started getting angry

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and going, wait, we're being
taken advantage of. Here's something's not right.

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So they may not have been able
to put their finger on it and

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to realize that they lost, uh, you know, fifty when do we

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talk fifty trillion dollars fifty trillion with
a T as in tom as I'm terrible,

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Okay, okay, So we lose
that basically stolen from us, redistributed

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and now it's for the World Economic
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what comes to mind right away is
are they going to do the same thing

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in Maui. M Yeah, the
fifteen minute cities. I know what you're

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talking about, you know I'm talking
about I mean, conveniently, Daniel,

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they met in January talking about these
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that they were going to do,
and they had they had already targeted lahinah

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As being you know, one of
the cities that they wanted to take over

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there in Maui, Hawaii eight months
later. I mean, this is like

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a nine to eleven event, you
know, where you know, you get

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people talking about planes crashing world towers
and then eight months later, nine months

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later, boom they do. I
don't know, I mean, it's enough

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to get you fitted for a tinfoil
hat. Yeah. I'm not even gonna

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go into some of this stuff that
like I you know, circumstantially but can't

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corroborate on my own, but it
seems very persuasive. Like one of the

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things that I will mention that jumped
out at me there was a gentleman purporting

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to have documentation from FEMA workers who
were in trouble for shooting fleeing residents and

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a bunch of the bodies had had
bullets in their head, I hope,

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so they had like kind of picked
them off from the media is dying of

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the fire, but they were actually
you know that claims to have documentation,

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you know, but I mean,
like, yeah, there's there's a lot

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of just chicane ory going on,
and like I said, it's it's it's

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about capturing global supply chains. It's
about like like Hawaii is is kind of

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center of the Pacific and that helps, you know, whoever has possession of

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it to have control, to have
a nexus point between kind of like the

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markets in the West and the markets
in the east. You know, So

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it makes sense for them to want
to seize that, and they're seizing it

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from the United States, you know, possibly you know, so I don't

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know, Look, there's got to
be some way for us to drain the

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power from these people because they're basically
erasing our country step yeah, at our

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expenses, and then they're they're transitionating
to you know, our enemies, whether

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it's China or Russia or Iran.
I mean, you know, uh,

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Saudi Arabia. It's like wait a
minute, you know, there's so many

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problems that could be solved if we
just went back to being energy independent,

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and we could be a forced on
the international stage in being an exporter of

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natural gas to these countries that are
having a tough time and not you know,

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they're not them, not relying on
Russia, who, by the way,

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we got this. We're in the
middle of this proxy war with right

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now with Ukraine. Yeah. There
was a book that the technocracy people love

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and it was called Wealth, Virtual
Wealth, and Debt by Frederick Satti back

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in nineteen twenty or something. And
Sadi won the Nobel Prize for discovering nuclear

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isotopes, and so he was kind
of like a chemist. But then he

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shifts over and he does this book
on economics, and he towards the end

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of the book he says something really
interesting. In nineteen twenty he says that

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America is so big and has so
many natural resources that it could provide for

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herself and for the needs of the
world without over exerting herself. Right,

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And this was true after World War
Two when the rest of the world was

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blown up, like eighty five percent
of global goods were produced by the United

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States. So we have the ability
to not only provide we don't need imports.

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And he says that, he says, this is going to call He

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was English, and as an Englishman, he did not want the United States

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to be independent like this because he
said it caused a balance of trade issue

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where we didn't need to buy anything
from anybody and so we could sell.

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So all what that meant was all
the gold was flowing into America. So

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he was like, so how do
we shake that piggyback? How do we

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get the gold back out of America? And he said, we have to

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do things like we have to encourage
welfare programs, large portions of their population

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not working. We have to encourage
shorter hours, we have to encourage more

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consumption, you know. And then
and then as their as their their factory

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shutdown stuff, they're gonna need imports. So now as as you import,

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now gold comes out of the United
States. Exactly. It was very consciously

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done, you know. And the
technocracy movement they see that as their bible.

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They love that book and so well, and it is just that you

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know, here the brain to trust
the people who you know, swore on

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the Bible to you know, look
out for America's best interests. To defend

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us against all enemies foreign and domestic. They sold us out, Daniel.

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Yeah, you know here all the
manufacturing that was sold out. I mean

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to such a degree that even Donald
Trump, when he was president, said

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well, wait a minute, if
we go to war, we gotta go

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we you know, we gotta go. Look, you know, for the

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guy that we're at war with,
for our medal and our steel. Yeah

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that's does that make right? Well, I mean that happened. Just to

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go back to the origins of our
constitution, right, So our constitution was

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essentially done by the Federalists, the
Federalist Party. And you know, so

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starting with John Adams, like George
Washington did not belong to a political party,

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but John Adams did, and John
Quincy Adams and so forth, and

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so the Federalists were kind of the
early protoglobalists, right, and they were

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pitted against Thomas Jefferson's kind of he
called it the Democratic Republicans was his party,

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and and so and they called it
Republicans for short, by the way.

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But anyway, so so you had
the globalists versus the Republicans, and

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it was the it was the the
international mercantile groups versus the farmers, the

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normal people, the Maga people,
right, and and so the Federalists were

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so in bed with the Bank of
England that when the of eighteen twelve happened

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and they were burning down the White
House, the Americans were like, uh,

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come on, we've got to defend
ourselves. And the Federalists and Senate

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refused to release funds to defend the
United States because they said, oh,

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it might hurt our business interests with
England, so we're just gonna let them

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destroy our coach because my personal bank
account might get you know. And and

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they got booted out of power.
They after the War of eighteen twelve,

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they were discredited, they were gone. But you look at them. They

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were the early mitt Romneys. They
were they were the hurly Ryano kind of

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you know, people who exactly you
know who by who. By the way,

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he's not running for reelection. He
says he's too old, you know,

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so he's I guess setting the standard. He still sounds pretty sharp as

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to corrupt. Yeah, he's certainly
not in Republican and we know that.

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But you know that's but that's the
problem right now that we have you know,

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you talk about ethics. Daniel is
that who are these elected officials?

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You know, Uh, an R
doesn't mean an R much less a D

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a D anymore. It just seems
that we have this movement for the uniparty

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that is compromised everything and just confusing
us like crazy. They keep they keep

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moving. You know, it's like
a you know, the p and the

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shell game. You know, it
just keeps getting moved around, and it's

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no wonder the American people are just
you know, fed up with it.

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But they need to get fed up
with it to do something actionable, you

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know, so that we don't continue
to produce the same craziness. Right,

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Yeah, you're good. John Stewart
Mill says that in considerations unrepresentative government in

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eighteen sixty one, he said,
he said, no matter how good your

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administrative apparatus is, no matter how
good your constitution, it is meaningless if

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you do not have the people willing
to enforce it. And then he says,

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it's like a horse without a rider. So we've sat back, we

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got lazy, and we just kind
of just said, oh, someone else

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is going to defend it. And
then all of a sudden, you know,

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you get bad actors, bad faith
actors going in and it's going to

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be we're going to come to a
crisis. But we've been the good news

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as we've been here before. Like
I said back in the seventeen nineties,

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with the Federalists, I mean,
the Federalists were there essentially from before the

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ink was dry on the Constitution.
By the way, we have the Bill

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of Rights because of the Federalists.
Right, So there was the Federalists who

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wanted to put the document in and
they did decent work on it. Actually

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they had checks and balances and stuff. But almost immediately before the ink was

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dry, they were kind of removing
the checks and balances. Like what it

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was supposed to be, what the
setup was actually supposed to be, was

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that the states were the boss of
the federal government. Right, let the

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states come together. The federal government
was a creation of the states and not

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the other way around. Right,
So they were subordinate to the states.

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And there's an Arab expression, you
know, whoever whoever has the silver,

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you know, basically is the master. And so the people who had the

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money were the states. They were
the funding mechanism for the federal government.

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Now, what happened was Alexander Hamilton, who was a Federalist and who was

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an agent from the Bank of England. He wanted to create the first national

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bank of the United States, the
first version of the Federal Reserve in seventeen

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ninety one. The Constitution did not
give him any authority to do this.

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So what happens is once you have
a central bank. Basically he was trying

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to remake America to look like England, where you had a king and you

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had a central bank, the Bank
of England, and so we had the

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president and then he was like Hamilton
was like, let's have a central bank.

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And well, instead of the States
fund US, we'll have the central

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Bank fund US. Okay, Now
that changes the power dynamics. So now

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it's not the state's funding. Who's
the boss. Now it's the central bank

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funding, which means the bank is
the boss. And so very early on.

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But here's the good news. They
got rid of it in eighteen eleven.

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They got rid of that central bank, which caused the War of eighteen

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twelve in an attack is to try
to reimoke it. But we we've been

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here before in very many shocking ways, and we've prevailed. So I do

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think that there's real hope, you
know, and the good news too.

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Is like I said, just with
regardless of supply chains and stuff, these

436
00:28:33.240 --> 00:28:37.319
large systems tend to fall apart.
There's something called the silo effect. Jillian

437
00:28:37.359 --> 00:28:41.119
Tech wrote a great book on that, where they just fall into their own

438
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weight and they do stupid thing like
Biden. Oh, let's raise energy prices.

439
00:28:44.559 --> 00:28:47.279
Okay, keep keep doing it.
Keep doing it. We'll watch the

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00:28:47.319 --> 00:28:51.759
global supply chains collapse. Awesome,
keep going, Biden. Yeah. Well,

441
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and that's and and that's the deal. And and here we are,

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Daniel, in the midst of all
this. Uh, I mean, which

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bringing this? I think that serving
as a catalyst is the rank corruption that's

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running throughout the institutions of our government. The American people have lost faith across

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the board against all the three letter
agencies of our country. Sadly, Yeah,

446
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I mean, as they should have. And you can't blame them,

447
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Yeah, exactly. Harry Triman said
a month after Kennedy was assassinated in a

448
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Time magazine article, He said he
would have never authorized the creation of the

449
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CIA had he known it would become
an American gestapo. Those are his words.

450
00:29:30.519 --> 00:29:33.039
Those are not the words of a
tin foil that was the president of

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the United States, you know,
saying that in forty seven when he authorized

452
00:29:36.119 --> 00:29:38.559
them, he had no idea that
and that was kind of his implication.

453
00:29:38.640 --> 00:29:42.400
Like Tucker Carlson made the news some
months back saying that, you know,

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he had you know, information from
somebody at the Library of Congress or something,

455
00:29:47.720 --> 00:29:49.039
I can't remember where it was,
but saying that, yeah, the

456
00:29:49.279 --> 00:29:55.640
CIA may have murdered our president,
right, right, And this gets back

457
00:29:55.680 --> 00:29:59.119
to what I was saying earlier at
the very start of our interview, where

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right after Kennedy's assassinated, Kennedy was
you know, a president. He was

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he was put in by the people, right, So, how do you

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00:30:07.079 --> 00:30:10.240
create a society that is no longer
for the people, but it's for an

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00:30:10.240 --> 00:30:12.200
oligur who class? How do you
change that? Because if you did murder

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00:30:12.200 --> 00:30:15.799
the president, you would not want
the people coming after you. So how

463
00:30:15.799 --> 00:30:18.759
do you stop this? So the
CIA has something called a strategy of tensions,

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were they'll go into a country and
they'll pit different groups against each other

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a little exactly universus shea versus kurd
And so they did that in the United

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States with critical race theory, where
they started in sixty four months, just

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00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:33.079
within months of Kennedy being assassinated,
they start like kind of critical race theory

468
00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:40.519
as a way to they fund Chicano
studies, gay studies with the Women's Liberation

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00:30:40.559 --> 00:30:45.960
movement, with Glory Steinham admitting she
was wary. Yeah, the war on

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00:30:45.039 --> 00:30:48.039
poverty, let's start all in there. Yeah, yeah, all of that

471
00:30:48.119 --> 00:30:52.680
was rich versus poor, Black versus
white, Jew versus gentile, gay versus

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straight, et cetera, et cetera. To create this strategy, to create

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this chaos so that no one could
go go after them, You couldn't have

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a unified people to basically hold them
to account. And they've been very successful.

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And so, like I said,
it's very like when you look in

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the history, like Herbert Marcuso,
who I mentioned before, who was at

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the Institute of Marxism, he worked
for the OSS, for the Office of

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00:31:11.519 --> 00:31:14.680
Strategic Services, which was the forerunner
of the CIA. And when he was

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00:31:14.720 --> 00:31:18.599
in Germany, there's Chris Christopher rufo
is a is a good writer on the

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subject of critical race theory, and
he has a book called America's Cultural Revolution.

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And when Marcuso was in Germany,
he got booed off the stage as

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00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:30.599
they were calling him the CIA.
Shill and also his colleague who was also

483
00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:34.640
in the Institute for Marxism the Frankfurt
School, Teodora Doorno, was writing in

484
00:31:34.680 --> 00:31:38.640
CIA Front group magazines DRM orhat was
one of the one of them, and

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00:31:38.720 --> 00:31:42.400
he did something for the CCF which
was like the Committee for Cultural you know

486
00:31:42.599 --> 00:31:45.480
funders. I can't remember what it
was, but it was one of those

487
00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:48.599
George Soros style thanks exactly right front, you know. So they were doing

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00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:53.279
these things at you know, at
the behest of probably you know, Allan

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00:31:53.359 --> 00:31:56.440
Dallas, like Kennedy comes in.
Kennedy sees Allan Dallas do the Bay of

490
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Pigs and he says, wait,
what are you doing. I'm the president

491
00:32:00.400 --> 00:32:02.039
And Alan Dallas is like, now
I'm going to be running nis boy.

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00:32:02.440 --> 00:32:05.759
You know, I'm like twice your
age. I'm a charge. And he's

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00:32:05.759 --> 00:32:07.519
like, now, I'm pretty sure
I'm the pre I'm pretty sure I'm the

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00:32:07.599 --> 00:32:09.519
charge. He fires look at the
business card. Yeah, business card still

495
00:32:09.559 --> 00:32:15.119
says Commander in chief. Yeah exactly, And so Dallas he fires Dallas,

496
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and then Kennedy mysteriously gets killed,
and then Dallas is put in charge of

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00:32:17.160 --> 00:32:21.480
the Warren Commission. And then Dallas
is the one giving the point man in

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00:32:21.519 --> 00:32:23.319
this when you look at the history
was a guy named Mick George Bundy.

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00:32:23.599 --> 00:32:28.960
Mc George Bundy was the National Security
advisor for both Kennedy and Johnson. And

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after that he went to the Ford
Foundation and he ran the Ford Foundation.

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00:32:31.599 --> 00:32:35.559
And after the Ford Foundation he was
a dean at Harvard. And so that's

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where critical race theory starts with Mick
George Bundy is the point man for kind

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00:32:38.400 --> 00:32:42.880
of like these these forces funding,
these funding mechanisms, and how do you

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00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:45.920
how do you use Harvard Law School
to create this new conception of how you

505
00:32:45.920 --> 00:32:50.599
interpret the law, how you interpret
the constitution, so that freedom is bad

506
00:32:50.880 --> 00:32:55.759
and states rights is about slavery and
all these things to stigmatize freedom, to

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00:32:55.839 --> 00:32:59.400
make you think that free. I
mean, look at the Smithsonian Institute just

508
00:32:59.480 --> 00:33:02.599
recently. They had this chart of
toxic whiteness or something. It was about

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00:33:02.599 --> 00:33:07.799
white supremacy and the things they were
listing as evil white supremacy where things like

510
00:33:07.839 --> 00:33:13.480
punctuality, the nuclear family, scientific
method, objectivity, you know, so

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I mean mathematical equations, you know. Yeah, like to stigmatize anything that

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would lead to a free, ethical
person. They don't want that. They

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want a bunch of people who were
kind of a slave population. Like I'll

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00:33:25.839 --> 00:33:29.440
give an example. I mentioned John
Stewart Mill before. He says, in

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considerations unrepresentative government that a republic requires
an active population, right, so you

516
00:33:35.319 --> 00:33:37.880
have to vote, you have to
do jury duty, you have to participate

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00:33:37.880 --> 00:33:40.880
in your community. He said.
A despotism needs a passive population. And

518
00:33:40.880 --> 00:33:44.599
he says, and this is what's
interesting. He says, an active population.

519
00:33:44.599 --> 00:33:45.920
She said. The example of an
active person is if you see something

520
00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:49.599
wrong with yourself, you change it, he said. In a passive person,

521
00:33:49.640 --> 00:33:52.559
if you see something wrong with yourself, you blame someone else. And

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00:33:52.640 --> 00:33:54.880
you look at grievance culture through critical
race. Here, it's about blaming other

523
00:33:54.920 --> 00:33:58.799
people. Oh, I didn't succeed
because you know, white supremacy, or

524
00:33:58.799 --> 00:34:01.559
I didn't succeed because of the PA
triarchy. And it's it's training for a

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00:34:01.599 --> 00:34:07.119
passive populate, for the population of
a despotism. And and I think it's

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00:34:07.160 --> 00:34:12.199
it's very been very clearly and kind
of done with malice of forethought. But

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00:34:12.400 --> 00:34:15.480
luckily, like you said, because
of this explosion of the Internet and all

528
00:34:15.519 --> 00:34:20.000
these other alternative sources of media,
they're terrified the zoomers are exploding. The

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00:34:20.079 --> 00:34:23.599
male population, the young male population
are identifying at historic rates of as conservatives,

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00:34:23.760 --> 00:34:30.800
and they're like, slavery is good, right, exactly. Well,

531
00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:36.199
and this is the thing. See
the CIA, what they've purported and they

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00:34:36.199 --> 00:34:42.159
have imposed on America, as you
say, even going before before you know,

533
00:34:42.239 --> 00:34:46.360
Kennedy's assassination. Uh, you know, they they'd been doing this to

534
00:34:46.400 --> 00:34:53.119
other nations. Their their program and
their experience is so well oiled and perfected

535
00:34:53.679 --> 00:34:59.199
that by the time Donald Trump comes
on the scene, Hey, it's easy.

536
00:34:59.280 --> 00:35:01.119
I mean, this is tipping cows
out in the field, right,

537
00:35:01.480 --> 00:35:06.599
yep, it's turnkey now because they
started practicing with you know, subverting governments

538
00:35:06.599 --> 00:35:12.320
like in Honduras with Jacobo our Bens
was a nationalist there in Honduras. That's

539
00:35:12.360 --> 00:35:15.199
where we get the term of Banana
republic, right, So the United Fruit

540
00:35:15.239 --> 00:35:17.440
wanted to take over the country,
and the CIA was brought in to basically

541
00:35:17.480 --> 00:35:22.880
depose him and allow that to happen. And propaganda pioneer Edward Burney's by the

542
00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:24.840
way, from the nineteen twenties,
he was one of their people doing propaganda

543
00:35:25.159 --> 00:35:29.800
to frame you know, our Ben's
as a communist and an evil guy,

544
00:35:29.960 --> 00:35:31.679
this, that and the other,
and so then they did it in fifty

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00:35:31.719 --> 00:35:36.719
three with Mohammad Mosadek in Iran.
And so by the time they get to

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00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:39.039
Donald Trump, it's turnkey. They
know exactly what to do, they know

547
00:35:39.079 --> 00:35:43.559
exactly how to use the media.
Or Carlson. I mentioned Tucker Carlson earlier.

548
00:35:43.559 --> 00:35:45.639
He had a great little clip about
how they did it to Nixon.

549
00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:50.199
They got rid of Nixon using these
exactions. He said as soon as he

550
00:35:50.280 --> 00:35:53.440
said that he knew who killed Kennedy
and it was a CIA. It was

551
00:35:53.480 --> 00:35:58.760
a faded complete right. Because Yeah, and they get an unelected guy to

552
00:35:58.920 --> 00:36:01.280
talk in a month later. I
mean that that's how fast they moved.

553
00:36:01.679 --> 00:36:06.840
Yeah, and and they get an
unelected guy just like, I don't want

554
00:36:06.840 --> 00:36:08.679
to get you in trouble on any
platform, but I'm just saying it might

555
00:36:08.719 --> 00:36:15.519
be comparable to a recent series.
Yeah, exactly. Well, it was

556
00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:17.840
almost like they as soon as he
made that statement, was like they put

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00:36:17.840 --> 00:36:21.239
it, uh, you know,
you know, a shroud over his head

558
00:36:21.280 --> 00:36:22.800
and walked him out of the room. You know, I'm talking about Nixon.

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00:36:23.280 --> 00:36:27.440
It happened that quickly. And he
was a patriot. I mean,

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he won in a historic landslide.
He was the people's choice. You know,

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00:36:30.960 --> 00:36:35.480
he won by the largest historical margin
of the popular vote ever to date.

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00:36:35.840 --> 00:36:37.199
You know. So so this this
propaganda campaign to say, oh,

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Nixon was unpopular and he was a
crook and nobody liked Nixon. Actually everybody

564
00:36:40.679 --> 00:36:44.920
liked Nixon. You know, he
was taken out the most popular present.

565
00:36:44.960 --> 00:36:47.559
And that's why Trump was very vulnerable. It didn't matter how popular you were

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00:36:47.840 --> 00:36:52.880
if you had a corrupt media and
you had a complicit kind of Senate and

567
00:36:52.119 --> 00:36:55.239
you know, and House, but
especially the Senate, you have a bunch

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00:36:55.239 --> 00:37:00.719
of Mitt Romney types willing to go
along with the part of because they're complicit

569
00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:02.960
too. Look at Mitt Romney's kid. Just as as you know Hunter Biden,

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00:37:04.159 --> 00:37:07.639
his dealings with Barisma and all these
kind of oligarchical fronts in the Ukraine,

571
00:37:08.079 --> 00:37:10.639
Mitt Romney's kid is sitting on the
board right next to hundred Biden.

572
00:37:10.760 --> 00:37:15.840
So all of these people are implicated
by design, so that if Mitt Romney

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00:37:15.840 --> 00:37:17.280
ever did the ethical thing, he
would, you know, suddenly be in

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00:37:17.360 --> 00:37:20.960
jail. There would suddenly be a
news story about how corrupt he was,

575
00:37:21.239 --> 00:37:22.320
you know, because he is,
you know, so he knows that his

576
00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:27.960
freedom depends on his following the party
line and kind of keeping the current system,

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00:37:28.000 --> 00:37:30.239
the status quo going. And but
like I said, luckily, like

578
00:37:30.280 --> 00:37:35.199
the status quo is kind of you
know, it's kind of shaking, it's

579
00:37:35.239 --> 00:37:38.480
buckling on its own because it says
you can't run everything based on lies.

580
00:37:38.679 --> 00:37:42.559
You know. For so like the
Soviet Union collapsed because they cut all feedback

581
00:37:42.559 --> 00:37:45.880
mechanisms. Right, no one know
what voting didn't mean anything, right,

582
00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:50.039
those are the feedback mechanisms public opinion
polls, which is a feedback mechanism.

583
00:37:50.079 --> 00:37:52.079
Now you're lying in them, and
you're using them as statistical laugh tracks,

584
00:37:52.119 --> 00:37:59.920
you know. And so a complex
system cannot run without without accurate data.

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00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:02.239
And so once you just everything's just
lying all the time, and you're training

586
00:38:02.320 --> 00:38:06.039
kids to lie. Oh look here's
a banana. Say it's an apple.

587
00:38:06.280 --> 00:38:08.000
Say it's an apple. Okay,
the banana is an apple. Okay,

588
00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:12.039
you passed, right. I've trained
you to lie. I've trained you to

589
00:38:12.119 --> 00:38:15.719
value lying versus value and truth.
What kind of generational impact is this going

590
00:38:15.760 --> 00:38:20.280
to have, Daniel? I mean, because that's what I think is that

591
00:38:20.800 --> 00:38:27.159
we're talking generational damage that is being
experienced here in America today for that very

592
00:38:27.199 --> 00:38:31.239
same thing that you're talking about,
is that this purported lie that is all

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00:38:31.360 --> 00:38:36.679
in collusion and it's become part of
the cabal. Whether it's the mainstream media,

594
00:38:37.159 --> 00:38:40.960
social media, corporate America, all
they're all in on this big line.

595
00:38:43.079 --> 00:38:46.039
Yeah, yeah, exactly. And
that's why at the root of it,

596
00:38:46.039 --> 00:38:50.599
it's a spiritual battle, because I
mean, the Bible talks about that,

597
00:38:50.719 --> 00:38:53.440
right, I mean, the children
of the lie is people who are

598
00:38:53.480 --> 00:38:58.000
not committed to truth. They're not
truth based people. They're not people of

599
00:38:58.039 --> 00:39:00.719
the light. They're people of like
the shadows in the darkness. And that's

600
00:39:00.920 --> 00:39:05.039
unfortunately, that's human nature. I
mean, and we know that, like

601
00:39:05.119 --> 00:39:08.320
the Founding Fathers said that that all
government, you know, is evil.

602
00:39:08.400 --> 00:39:12.440
So but it's a necessary evil because
we need to pay for roads. But

603
00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:15.400
we're gonna limit it as so far
as possible. You know, we're gonna

604
00:39:15.400 --> 00:39:20.000
have checks and balances and stuff.
You know. Unfortunately they've done everything they

605
00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:22.039
could get rid of those checks and
balances. But uh, but yeah,

606
00:39:22.039 --> 00:39:25.119
but but they knew that, they
knew going forward that human nature and it's

607
00:39:25.159 --> 00:39:29.360
not just you know, any one
group, it's not any one race,

608
00:39:29.440 --> 00:39:32.360
it's not any one gender. It's
just humans. Any humanity yea. Let

609
00:39:32.440 --> 00:39:36.920
all of us have that dark thing
in us that if we if you were

610
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given old let's think of the CIA, right, they're like double O seven.

611
00:39:38.960 --> 00:39:43.440
They were given a license to kill
and an infinite printing press. Yeah

612
00:39:43.519 --> 00:39:45.320
that's and no checks and balances.
Yeah, that's really going to end in

613
00:39:45.400 --> 00:39:51.079
ethical and especially when you can be
so blatant to say, well, we're

614
00:39:51.159 --> 00:39:53.480
we're born to lie, you know, that's what we do. We lie?

615
00:39:53.760 --> 00:39:58.079
So what why? Why why do
you expect? I mean that's like

616
00:39:58.119 --> 00:40:00.440
that old song about the snake,
right, the gal who goes and saves

617
00:40:00.480 --> 00:40:05.079
the injured snake, you know,
brings him home and nurses him back to

618
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health and everything like that. And
uh, and then upon his health,

619
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he's feeling good and he bites her
and she goes, what are you doing?

620
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I you know I brought you.
I wouldn't saved you. I brought

621
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you to health and everything, and
now you bite me and he goes,

622
00:40:19.480 --> 00:40:22.559
well, you knew I was a
snake. It's funny you mentioned that.

623
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My my friend Rebecca mentioned exactly that
Esa Pable just yesterday to me that so

624
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you're like psychic, You're like picking
up on like, oh, I guess

625
00:40:31.000 --> 00:40:36.880
I get vibrations. But that is
yeah, that is a great that's a

626
00:40:36.920 --> 00:40:38.840
great metaphor. Is that you know, human nature, Like I said,

627
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like I should be nowhere near power
because like if like somebody said that like

628
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that, I think it was Lincoln. The test of power is not when

629
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like a or the test of someone's
character is not when they're down and out.

630
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It's when you give them power.
Right, And so, like my

631
00:40:52.440 --> 00:40:53.840
wife has always laughed at me.
She said, like if I ever won

632
00:40:53.880 --> 00:40:58.039
the lottery, I would be poor
within like a couple of weeks because I'd

633
00:40:58.039 --> 00:41:00.840
be giving the money away, and
she'd be like acting like an idiot,

634
00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:04.159
you know, like I would abuse
power like that. Like if I had

635
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like all this money, you know
at my disposal and infinite printing press,

636
00:41:07.599 --> 00:41:09.679
I wouldn't be using it for bombs
and planes. I would be you know,

637
00:41:09.840 --> 00:41:14.159
using it to to you know,
be abusive. In another way,

638
00:41:14.280 --> 00:41:17.360
I would I would actually be do
stupid things and try to help with the

639
00:41:17.400 --> 00:41:21.159
money, right, And that's not
the smart way. The smart way is

640
00:41:21.199 --> 00:41:23.599
the hard way. If you teach
a man to fish, yeah exactly.

641
00:41:23.599 --> 00:41:25.719
And I'm like you, I'm the
same way. And that's exactly what I

642
00:41:25.760 --> 00:41:29.320
was going to say is I'd sit
there and go hand out my Oh he's

643
00:41:29.480 --> 00:41:31.159
he's you know, he's hurting,
he's poor. Let me let me help

644
00:41:31.239 --> 00:41:37.280
him out. And then meanwhile you
disable him. Yeah, exactly exactly,

645
00:41:37.320 --> 00:41:39.880
So I would do with you like
Trump. Trump is like that Trump Trump

646
00:41:39.920 --> 00:41:43.480
knows what the right answer is.
But I remember when they were talking about

647
00:41:43.480 --> 00:41:45.679
Okay, who's gonna cut? It
was during the debates, and there was

648
00:41:45.760 --> 00:41:47.400
like seventeen people on the stage and
they're like, you know, who's gonna

649
00:41:47.400 --> 00:41:51.599
cut, like you know, the
healthcare. Everybody's hands went up except for

650
00:41:51.599 --> 00:41:53.480
Trump's. And Trump said, no
one's gonna die on my watch, and

651
00:41:53.519 --> 00:41:58.519
he kind of reverted back to his
his kind of earlier democrat like leanings.

652
00:41:58.719 --> 00:42:01.000
But he really, you know,
for all the good things that that we're

653
00:42:01.039 --> 00:42:07.400
about, Trump, he really he
didn't He didn't want to take down the

654
00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:09.440
system. He just wanted to control
the system. And we need somebody who's

655
00:42:09.480 --> 00:42:14.360
gonna take like take it down and
get rid of and it's and it's gonna

656
00:42:14.360 --> 00:42:17.039
be hard because like, for instance, seniors, right, it will how

657
00:42:17.039 --> 00:42:21.119
could you cut? I think,
you know things for seniors, but really

658
00:42:21.480 --> 00:42:25.400
it is unethical, like it's unsustainable
to you know, expect like all these

659
00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:30.039
young kids who are a much smaller
generation like the Zoomers to pay for this

660
00:42:30.199 --> 00:42:32.639
massive like Boomer generation. So at
some point there's gonna be like a tipping

661
00:42:32.679 --> 00:42:37.519
point where where you can't like it
used to be forty seven people for everyone

662
00:42:37.559 --> 00:42:40.280
retiree and when we started this,
and now it's three to one, and

663
00:42:40.480 --> 00:42:45.559
soon it will be one to one
where you have like one person living off

664
00:42:45.599 --> 00:42:47.519
of the wages and you know,
and you can't start a family with that.

665
00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:52.679
The civilizam so so but how can
you look at grandma and say,

666
00:42:52.679 --> 00:42:54.599
oh, I'm I'm you know,
not raising your your bet. You know.

667
00:42:54.679 --> 00:42:59.679
So we're putting these situations that are
you know, these vulnerable and the

668
00:42:59.719 --> 00:43:02.320
thing as you talk about ethics,
Daniel, I mean, they are the

669
00:43:02.360 --> 00:43:07.800
ones in the mid sixties, Thank
you very much, LBJ that opened up

670
00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:14.159
the lockbox on social security. Yeah, and they robbed the bank and they've

671
00:43:14.199 --> 00:43:16.639
gotten away with it. And you
know, I say, even before they

672
00:43:16.679 --> 00:43:21.840
get another raise or anything like that, any attributable ray should be going in.

673
00:43:21.840 --> 00:43:23.480
Not that it would make a big
dent, but at least it would

674
00:43:23.480 --> 00:43:30.079
show some you know, I don't
know, maybe some spirit of compromise that

675
00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:32.599
they would invest any rays that they
would offer for themselves, it would go

676
00:43:32.679 --> 00:43:37.719
in to restore that account because they
robbed it. Yeah, exactly. Bill

677
00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:42.639
Clinton did that right to paper over
the dot com bust like in nineteen ninety

678
00:43:42.719 --> 00:43:45.199
nine. He basically won in as
well, and like looted. But that's

679
00:43:45.199 --> 00:43:49.679
a social security is a little different
than welfare because it was actually people's real

680
00:43:49.719 --> 00:43:52.440
wages exactly into that. So it's
not, you know, a hand out,

681
00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:54.719
but it is now. And by
the way, one of the things

682
00:43:54.760 --> 00:44:00.159
in the news recently is the FED
just posted a law for the first time

683
00:44:00.199 --> 00:44:04.960
the Federal Reserve has The last time
that they posted a loss was in nineteen

684
00:44:05.079 --> 00:44:07.559
fifteen, right, and I think
it was like fifty eight billion dollars that

685
00:44:07.559 --> 00:44:10.880
they're that they're claiming that they've lost
for the first time, and they said,

686
00:44:10.880 --> 00:44:15.480
this is gonna this is going to
result in higher taxation on the populace

687
00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:19.360
because the FED isn't allowed to lose, right, So if they if they

688
00:44:19.400 --> 00:44:22.559
do like, you know, kind
of reckless stupid things, they don't have

689
00:44:22.599 --> 00:44:25.280
a feedback mechanism to kind of get
their behavior back on track. They're just

690
00:44:25.360 --> 00:44:29.920
basically going to start taxing us more, and that's been their solution rather than

691
00:44:29.960 --> 00:44:32.039
you know, running like a you
know, like an ethical system with the

692
00:44:32.199 --> 00:44:36.239
books that match and accounting that we're
you know, it's just like, Okay,

693
00:44:36.239 --> 00:44:38.280
we screwed up, we stall,
nobody's gonna get in trouble, and

694
00:44:38.280 --> 00:44:42.559
we're you're gonna tax you some money. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's

695
00:44:42.639 --> 00:44:45.159
it's kind of like the unions,
right. They've got these pension programs set

696
00:44:45.239 --> 00:44:51.639
up in such a way that it's
a guaranteed annuity or return on investment whatever

697
00:44:51.679 --> 00:44:55.239
they've made up, and if it
falls short, then the taxpayers get to

698
00:44:55.239 --> 00:44:59.559
pay for it, right, Yeah, exactly. I did a presentation,

699
00:44:59.599 --> 00:45:01.400
by the way, it just really
quickly on the pension funds and how it

700
00:45:01.480 --> 00:45:05.440
led to all these mergers. So
everybody was talking about the mergers since like

701
00:45:05.480 --> 00:45:08.639
the eighties and nineties two thousands too
Big to Fail and that happened. There

702
00:45:08.679 --> 00:45:13.960
was a great book called Pension Heist, and it basically you can't legally get

703
00:45:13.960 --> 00:45:17.079
at the pensions at those liquid assets
unless there's one loophole. If you merge

704
00:45:17.119 --> 00:45:21.119
with another company, you can do
a corporate restructure and you can get it

705
00:45:21.239 --> 00:45:24.559
that at that money so they looted
all these people's savings to paper over their

706
00:45:24.559 --> 00:45:30.320
losses. They're declining productivity rather than
change course and do products that people want

707
00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:31.679
like bud light. Right, They're
like, no, no, we're just

708
00:45:31.719 --> 00:45:36.320
gonna keep doubling down on stupid,
but we're just gonna steal these people's money

709
00:45:36.360 --> 00:45:39.119
who like you know, and that
that's behind the two big to fail consolidations

710
00:45:39.119 --> 00:45:42.800
that have left the current kind of
corrupt systems. Well, Daniel, we

711
00:45:42.840 --> 00:45:45.440
got about four minutes left, and
I thought give an opportunity to kind of

712
00:45:45.599 --> 00:45:52.559
summarize everything, especially where we are
right now. And as you clearly stated,

713
00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:58.320
we've got some major household cleaning to
do, and it's going to require

714
00:45:59.719 --> 00:46:04.360
you know, a special and unique
type of leadership to come in and to

715
00:46:05.519 --> 00:46:07.800
you know, square the ship,
so to speak. Yeah, that's and

716
00:46:07.800 --> 00:46:13.039
that's why it's just enclosing. I'm
going to return to the thing about decentralization.

717
00:46:13.199 --> 00:46:16.840
Right. So Aristotle says that the
decentralized society is a society of farmers

718
00:46:16.840 --> 00:46:21.079
becomes you know, a republic like
that was true with the Roman Empire.

719
00:46:21.079 --> 00:46:24.679
If you read Madden's book on Empires
or Trust, there were farmers ninety two

720
00:46:24.679 --> 00:46:28.719
percent of the founding father, like
ninety two percent of America were farmers when

721
00:46:28.719 --> 00:46:30.360
we found it, we were decentralized. If we can get back to a

722
00:46:30.440 --> 00:46:35.960
decentralized economic model, then we can
probably get our republic back. We will

723
00:46:35.960 --> 00:46:38.559
get we will get a government that
kind of reflects the society that we're in.

724
00:46:39.039 --> 00:46:42.559
And you know, I think that's
coming. There's a guy named Lord

725
00:46:42.599 --> 00:46:45.480
William Rees Mogu. He said that
he wrote a book called The Sovereign Individual,

726
00:46:45.599 --> 00:46:47.880
where he said, technologically he's a
decentralizing factor, right, like you

727
00:46:47.880 --> 00:46:51.719
don't have to go to a central
location anymore. You can sell things on

728
00:46:51.760 --> 00:46:55.119
eBay from your your bedroom. You
know. The technology I think blockchain,

729
00:46:55.199 --> 00:47:00.239
supply chain two point zero. I
think if we can get there, I

730
00:47:00.280 --> 00:47:04.679
think that that will be a backdoor
method to basically save the republic. You

731
00:47:04.679 --> 00:47:07.800
know, we'll steal it out from
under them. So that's my hope.

732
00:47:07.639 --> 00:47:10.480
The sooner the better, Daniel,
because I don't know. I mean,

733
00:47:12.000 --> 00:47:14.639
this is the thing, like you
said, I mean, in some regards,

734
00:47:14.639 --> 00:47:16.239
you go, oh, thank you, Joe Biden. I mean you

735
00:47:16.239 --> 00:47:22.840
you you really are. He's hurting
the old system. Yeah, and after

736
00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:25.239
that old system collapses if we do
nothing, we're doomed if we do nothing

737
00:47:25.239 --> 00:47:28.760
in the collapse. So there's going
to be so much pain and there's going

738
00:47:28.840 --> 00:47:31.000
to be you know, kind of
great depression two point now. But if

739
00:47:31.039 --> 00:47:34.400
we have something, if we have
a safety net, if we create this

740
00:47:34.440 --> 00:47:37.119
parallel system, and there's a lot
of people, especially Christians, we're talking

741
00:47:37.159 --> 00:47:42.119
about creating a parallel society of doing
business with people who don't hate you,

742
00:47:42.159 --> 00:47:47.400
and what you didn't a novel concept? Yeah, yeah, go figure right,

743
00:47:47.679 --> 00:47:51.800
or somebody that doesn't want to move
you into a one world government and

744
00:47:52.320 --> 00:47:57.519
scound with all your property and all
your wealth, and you know, because

745
00:47:57.559 --> 00:48:00.199
they know what to do better with
your money than you do. Yeah,

746
00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:04.360
exactly exactly. We've got to get
back to the bill, A society of

747
00:48:04.400 --> 00:48:07.440
Bill Martinez is those are my final
words, Bill, And now what do

748
00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:13.440
you say? Well, Daniel Nttel, I cannot thank you enough. I

749
00:48:13.480 --> 00:48:19.480
always appreciate uh, this time that
we can spend together, and especially uh,

750
00:48:19.480 --> 00:48:22.719
you know that we can share with
our audience. You know, as

751
00:48:22.760 --> 00:48:25.519
I say to them regularly, don't
just take our word for it. You

752
00:48:25.559 --> 00:48:30.760
know, hopefully what we've done is
spurred you and motivate you to the point

753
00:48:30.800 --> 00:48:34.639
that you want to check it out
further, own your own knowledge, don't

754
00:48:34.719 --> 00:48:37.920
just you know, you know,
because so often, Daniel, you know,

755
00:48:37.960 --> 00:48:39.800
I ask people, you know,
they'll make some kind of goofy statement

756
00:48:39.840 --> 00:48:44.519
and I'll say, who told you
that? You know? I mean,

757
00:48:44.559 --> 00:48:47.039
because it's that it's that absurd,
and it's funny because then they kind of

758
00:48:47.079 --> 00:48:50.960
look at you, like for just
a moment with the deer and the headlights

759
00:48:51.000 --> 00:48:57.159
kind of look because you know that
it's unintellectual, or as my friend Jeff

760
00:48:57.159 --> 00:49:00.159
Allen would say, it's rather moronic. You know some of these responses,

761
00:49:00.239 --> 00:49:04.760
right, yeah, exactly, So, like I said, but you will

762
00:49:04.760 --> 00:49:07.920
get true information everybody, but from
Bill Martinez. H He is, you

763
00:49:07.960 --> 00:49:12.480
know, a fount of wisdom and
ethics, and I vouch for him.

764
00:49:12.519 --> 00:49:15.159
So everybody, you know, like, support Bill. This is how Bill

765
00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:22.360
will be our next president. That's
my call here today he's announcing Bill,

766
00:49:22.440 --> 00:49:25.239
will you run for America? Two
point? Will we get the Republic back?

767
00:49:27.079 --> 00:49:30.079
Well, Daniel, you're too funny. But thank you again for you

768
00:49:30.079 --> 00:49:31.920
know, coming on the show.
We so appreciate you and our thanks to

769
00:49:32.000 --> 00:49:37.079
Daniel Natal. Thanks Phil, thank
you, Daniel, Take care, bye

770
00:49:37.119 --> 00:49:42.039
sir for more information and to be
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771
00:49:42.079 --> 00:49:44.760
to God and to save our country, go to Bill Martin and Show dot

772
00:49:44.760 --> 00:49:46.360
com. May God bless you and
keep you, make his face shine of

773
00:49:46.480 --> 00:49:51.239
you. May He be gracious unto
you and give you peace. Go and

774
00:49:51.320 --> 00:49:52.199
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