From the Atlantic to the Pacific, University Students Are Unknowingly Supporting The Thing They Say

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Well, good afternoon, and welcome
to the show. I'm Bill Martinez.

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Great to have you with us.
We hear chants from the Pacific to

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the Atlantic here in this country of
ours, shouting that from the river to

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the sea. And this is happening
in universities across the country, sadly.

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And these kids you question, you
know, I thought they were there to

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be educated. Instead, it looks
like they were there spending a lot of

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money, in many cases their parents'
money, as much as one hundred thousand

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a year for this education or in
doctrination as it seems to be. The

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kids are influenced by, you know, the professors and their peers on campus

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shouting I'm Hamas and from the river
to the sea, and somehow ignorantly or

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they're just so ideologically fixed away from
the truth, they don't understand. What

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they're shouting is the very thing that
they're disclaiming, and that is genocide.

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That's what that means. Plus on
top of that, what they fail to

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acknowledge and understand is right now,
it's Israel, but the same people they're

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Hamas and the terrorists Hezbollah, the
hoodies, Iran, these rabel rousing Arab

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nations that are attacking Israel, that
want Israel remove from the face of the

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earth. Their second target is the
United States of America, okay, And

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these universities seem to be totally oblivious
to that real world concept. And so

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the question is where is the leadership
on all points from the Oval Office down

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throughout these universities. What is missing
is leadership with us right now to talk

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about This is the co author of
Distantly Speaking. His name is Brent Hamichek,

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and he says, change the words, change the war. He's the

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vice president and associate publisher for Human
Events Media Group. Brent, welcome the

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show. Good to have you with
us. It's good to be here.

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Thanks so much for having me,
Bill, It's a real privilege. Well,

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I got to tell you the timing
of your book, some people might

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think you were, you know,
looking into some prophetic revelation of a ball

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of some sort that you know,
it just seems that it was perfect timing

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in light of what's happening in our
culture today. Well, thank you for

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that. One of the things that's
fun is that as I traveled around and

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talked about the book and then been
asked questions about current events along the way,

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is that I actually stop and realize
just how much ground is covered in

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this book. And the reason that
I've covered so much ground and an order

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appears to is because it is a
book of ideas, and it's a book

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of philosophy. So what happens then
is that philosophy is something that you carry

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along with you and then you apply
to what's taking place, whatever it might

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be. So allow me to apply
a little bit to what we're seeing here

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on the college campuses. First of
all, within the book, I have

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a chapter that's dedicated to the political
division in America. We use the terms

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right and left, and I make
the argument I believe quite compellingly that those

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two terms mean absolutely nothing in any
sort of real sense. They're just insults

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we use. But I argue that
there's two teams in America, Team Right

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and Team Left, and they have
platoons on each team, and one of

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the platoons on Team Left is the
pro Palestinian platoon. And right now,

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that platoon is the most important platoon
on that team, and it has risen

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in elevation. It's at the top
of the team chart, and it is

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in the field, and it is
garnering attention from the rest of Team Left.

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That's what you do. You cheer
for your teammates. And so we

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see it gaining all sorts of attention
and a bit of power and influence.

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And I say that because even while
we see police being called into campuses and

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finally making some arrests, Let's make
no mistake, the inmates are running the

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asylums on these forty eight plus campuses
exactly where these things are taking place,

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and so this is all quite predictable. There's different elements at work there,

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of course, is the George Soros
element that is funding these activities and importing

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everything from food to pro testers to
in tief of members. We know from

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our reporting at Human Events Media group, the post millennial folks like Andy No

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and Jack Pisovic. We know Antifa
is involved in these right, So there's

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an outside element stoking it. But
in terms of the students themselves, you

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know what's taking place here. And
I make an argument in the book and

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I'll make it here on your show
that human beings are not fundamentally good creatures.

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They're fundamentally quite nefarious. In order
for any movement to really be successful,

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it needs to have a strong element
of hate within it. What we're

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seeing right now on the college campuses
is just this simple, and that is

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students on these campuses have been given
permission to organize in groups and hate other

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people, break things, swear,
throw things, and do harm. This

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isn't something that we should be surprised
about. This is who and what we

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are and we regrips with that.
Yeah, then this is why we need

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a moral code. Without a moral
code, everything is cast to the wind.

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And this is what's happening exactly as
you're saying this, Brent, because

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there's no restraint on this. You
know, the selfishness and incivility is running

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rampid. I mean, what next, they just decide, Okay, I'm

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not going to stop at a stop
sign anymore. I'm not going to obey

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the laws and violate, you know, the trust of their fellow men because

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we exist in this society and we
can cohabitate when we can count on the

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other person stopping at the stop sign. Isn't it that basic? Well,

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it is that basic. I mean
I used to do a lot of business

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with very affluent people, some of
whom would come from in much inherited wealth,

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and they were what we would call
trust fund kids. And of course

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just doesn't apply to everyone. But
I had somebody explain to me once when

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we were watching the reckless sort of
business behavior of one of those people.

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He said, you know, so
and so has lived a life without consequence.

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And that was a very interesting statement
that stayed with me for years.

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And so what happens to human beings
when they're allowed to live without consequence?

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Why, I'd suggest what happens to
them is what we're seeing at Columbia and

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UCLA and elsewhere. There is a
calculation at work. It's a rational calculation

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on the part of these seemingly irrationally
behaving students, and that is I can

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go into the library, barricade the
doors, break a bunch of stuff,

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destroy property, and nothing is going
to happen to me. Now, you

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give any human being, almost any
human being, that opportunity, and they

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will go out and they will lock
themselves in a library and they'll break windows

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and destroy property, or they'll go
in and smash and grab retail stores in

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California up to one thousand dollars,
no harm, no foul. So the

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culture has conditioned. I mean,
we had the Summer of Love after the

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George Floyd riots and look at all
the damage anywhere from two to four billion

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dollars of damage, loss of jobs, loss of life, injuries to police

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officers and others. Unbelievable. What
happened that the media, who I believe

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is all complicit in this because they're
failing to do their job as journalists and

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report objectively. They're reporting out of
their biased political bubble. And so they

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tell us, as buildings are burning
in the background that this is, you

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know, a mostly peaceful riot,
right, Well they do, they don't.

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It depends I actually do something that
sounds like a form of likely,

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you know, self inflicted torture to
your audience members. But I get a

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kick out of watching ABC World News
Tonight every evening with David Muir. Why

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would I do such a thing.
I have a ton of admiration for how

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they do what they do, The
level of propaganda, the cinematography, the

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subtleness with which messages are delivered is
really quite remarkable. That said, I

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watch them every night. That's as
mainstream media as you can get. I

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watch them struggle with how they're portraying
this, you know, because they they

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don't want to appear to be anti
Israeli. They certainly don't want to appear

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to be anti Semitic, and yet
they also want to make sure that they

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support Team Left. The media is
not media is not part of Team Left.

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They are a supporter of it.
And so you're exactly right. Brand.

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See, this is what creates the
problem is that once you're so ideologically

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fixed, it really ruins your ability
to be objective. I'm going to remind

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everybody we're talking with Brent Hamichek.
He's the co author of Distantly Speaking,

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Change the Words, Change the War. He's also the vice president Associate publisher

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for Human Events media group. Brent
go ahead and pick it up from there,

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right. Well, so the mainstream
media is struggling with this. I

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can tell you that conservative media is
struggling with this. And the reason they're

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struggling with it is because if you're
a conservative commentator and you appear to be

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too pro Israel, then what happens
while on social media, which everyone seems

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to worry quite a bit about this
alternative universe in which we live on social

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media, you immediately are being called
as someone who supports genocide. By the

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way, the mere use of the
word with regard to what's happening with the

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Israeli military action and calling it it's
just preposterous. It doesn't mean that you

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have to agree with what Israel's doing. You can even think it's awful,

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terrible and everything else. Stop using
the word genocide. If it were genocide,

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every Palestinian in the West Bank Gaza
would be dead. They would kill

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them all. That would be genocide. And that's not what's happening. So

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let's refrain from hyperbole and silly language
if with regard to that. But but,

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but if you're a conservative and you
really want to support Israel, you're

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sensitive to having people say, well, then you're in favor of slaughtering Palestinian

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babies. And so everybody's struggling with
this, and I don't think we should

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be struggling. In my mind,
again, I'm a simple man. I

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think we just should simply be looking
at this in a couple of different ways.

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But they are different ways. One
is, as the United States as

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a nation state, what matters to
us in terms of alliances, in terms

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of what they are and where they
are. I would suggest to you that

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having Israel is an ally in the
Middle East is an important useful thing for

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us, So we should support in
general our ally. We don't have to

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agree with them, we don't have
to endorse them. But the last time

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I checked, we fought alongside Stalin. Israel's not Stalin, and so from

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an alliance standpoint, Israel should matter
to us. As to the rest of

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it, let's be clear, the
problem in the Middle East, the problem

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in the Middle East is not solvable. It can never be solved. There

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is no solution to this. So
all you'll ever be able to do is

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quell it for a while, have
periods of peace and tranquility. And it's

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only been going on for thousands of
years, right, Brent, that's right,

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So we can't solve it. And
if we want to start to talk

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about, you know, what about
the human cost, what about what to

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do in terms of humanitarian things and
other things, that is a separate conversation,

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and I think it's a reasonable one
for people to have. But so

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long as everybody realizes going in,
they can't solve the problem. That's the

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one mistake that you can make that
would be fatal. There is no solution

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to this. Yeah, exactly.
Well, but meanwhile, you have people

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that do not have a grasp of
history, including our US government, that

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continues to interfere in the Middle East. I mean, like right now,

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I mean you have Biden, the
President of the United States, calling for

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a regime change in Israel when they're
in the middle of a war. Really,

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I mean, that's insane. Well, of course it might be to

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distract attention from the fact that many
people are calling for regime change within his

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own administration. It's were it not
for him happening to be president of the

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United States, very difficult to take
anything. Joe Biden says, seriously,

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clearly, clearly suffering from dementia.
That's not a debatable fact that's obvious to

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anyone who's ever had a family member
experience it. So at this point in

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time, he always was a bad
guy. Now he's a bad guy with

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deteriorating mind. Not a great combination
in terms of how we who we listen

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to, or how we take them
seriously. But the United States overall would

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do well to remember that we need
allies. We don't need surrogates per se.

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We don't need countries to be exact
clones of either what it is we

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are or what we perceive ourselves to
be. We're hardly saintly in our own

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behavior, but we do need allies. And the suggestion that someone in or

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or you know, anywhere around Israel
would replace Israel as that Middle East ally

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is well, I mean, that's
just sort of an ignorant presumption. So

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we do well to protect and preserve
by ally, all the while attempting to

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bring some sort of halt to regular, good old fashioned human suffering as best

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we can. But preserving our ally
is what's in our fundamental interest in what

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has to come. Me first,
well, Brent, you know, for

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me, I look at what's going
on, and it's like we've lost sense

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of our mission. You know who
is America these days? You know?

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Marco Rubio said, and I believe
in the twenty sixteen election campaign, when

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he's running for president, he said
that we're in a position now where our

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allies no longer trust us and our
enemies no longer fear us. That's because

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we've lost I believe we've lost sense
of mission. We've disconnected from two very

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important documents, those founding documents,
a Declaration of Independence and our Constitution.

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And when you lose sight of that
and the foundation of your being and as

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you say, the American idea,
then who is America? I can say

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this without much question or doubt whatsoever. I can say this at the international

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community knows Joe Biden. Well,
yes they do. They know him for

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better and mostly worse. There's no
question about that. I make the argument

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in the book that the United States
since World War Two is the most failed

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nation of consequence in foreign policy in
all of human history. Doesn't mean they're

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the most failed. That means they're
the most failed of consequence. We have

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done virtually everything wrong since the end
of World War Two, and to the

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extent that we've done anything right,
like forcing the collapse of the Soviet Union.

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We had help, and we also
had it's sheer, water logged weight,

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caving it in upon itself. But
we make bad choices. We don't

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make choices based upon any sort of
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you take a look at our recent
aid package to Ukraine, which is really

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an aid package to defense contractors.
It's a fraction of it goes to Ukraine

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itself. You said, what are
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I've got this figured out. I
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politicians just spent a lot of money
with defense contractors so they can make money,

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so that they can donate money back
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I've got that right exactly. That's
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and around. Brent. You know, that's that's right. And and if

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that sounds cynical to people, it's
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and observation. I'm not I'm not
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am realistic. And the people we
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had very little concern for the United
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less so for worrying about the impact
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long is for a while we can
make a little bit of money in terms

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of doing it a little bit.
I mean we're talking about lots of money.

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We're thirty five trillion dollars in debt, and they keep going to the

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treasury, and the Democrats need votes, so you know, they just this

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is the machine. As you said, it doesn't take a genius. It

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just takes somebody to ask the right
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you will know them by the fruit. So look at the fruit of

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the tree, and you see what's
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complex that Eisenhower warned us about.
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a military industrial complex. Everything is
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you know, the Green New Deal, whether it's the educational system that we

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have, the failed educational system,
right on down. The entire bureaucracy has

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become a you know, kind of
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chewing up everything in its way.
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we're still being controlled by the constitution, right, you know, I think

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one of the hardest things for people
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economic model, our system right now
is a very classical fascist system. So

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we have a very large centralized government
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through regulation, and through various acts
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in all the key silos. So
we have large, large, powerful players.

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One example is go ahead and google
the number of banks that existed,

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you know, twenty years ago versus
today and then prior to DoD Frank,

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So what does this mean? We
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able to partner with very large corporate
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unison to plan, manage, and
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That's a fascist model, that's right
out of Mussolini's Italy exactly. So we

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have a fascist, fascist national model
now in terms of economic and political activity.

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And that's a hard thing for people
to understand, right They just,

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well, of course, we don't. We have a we have a free

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market, we have a republic.
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formed and how it's hoped exactly.
It's kind of crept It's kind of crept

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in on us, hasn't it,
Brent? It has, and it's crept

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in over what I argue in the
book, I give a one hundred plus

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year timeline and a number of key
events that have taken place, different threads

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that have run, that have come
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though this has been happening by one
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It happens in spurts, and at
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at an increasing rate, no question, especially seen that since twenty twenty.

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said, get ready for the fundamental
transformation of America. And eight years of

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you know, some transformation, a
little break there because we had Donald Trump

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in the middle, and then Joe
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and it's neither to applaud it or
condemn it. It is to say this

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people, you know, it makes
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have sort of a four year break. But I would just simply ask the

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question thoughtfully, did we so federal
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the pandemic under it, and we
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made along the way inside of that
that are far more than questionable, and

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they were at the moment, not
just in hindsight. We had a Republican

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House and Senate to go along with
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anything legislatively except a very bad tax
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to me was in general a good
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presidency really give us any kind of
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for this reason. We're in an
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I don't fear the obvious, which
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or whoever is on the ticket.
But there's a reason why even if you're

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a Trump supporter, you should at
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winning. You should make sure your
eyebrows are raised a little bit and you're

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paying attention because if he wins an
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this and say, there we did
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they'll put all their toys down and
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if he's reelected, remember he'll be
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He will not have sixty votes in
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able to do much legislatively. And
the other side is not going to go

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away, and they're going to come
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those four years that he was in
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people understand we got here over one
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people were presidents and senators and representatives
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one hundred years, and it won't
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for the first four So be mindful. Yeah, without a doubt, we're

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talking with Brett Hamichik. He is
the co author of Dissidently Speaking, Change

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the Words, Change the War.
Brent, this is why you know,

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in talking about Donald Trump in these
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saying Number one is critical his choice. A vice president has to be a

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vice president that can pick up the
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you know, you've got Obama and
Biden in essence having twelve years. This

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is an opportunity for Republicans to have
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with his successor. We would expect
that to be his vice president choice that

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would carry on the baton. But
beyond that, we've been insisting that you've

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got to send reinforcements with Trump,
you have got to, you know,

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hit the down line line ballot in
such a way that you're sending quality congressmen

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and senators from your state to reinforce
what you want accomplished. I mean,

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clearly, what we're seeing, as
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Not to mention the fact that,
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power and control is the very air
that they breathe. It's not about,

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you know, good policy or good
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control. In my humble opinion,
and maybe, uh, I don't I

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don't know how to alter those words
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administrations and how they how they vote, and I see it that they're so

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ideologically fixed that it's going to be, like you said, maybe one hundred

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years of experience where that they realize
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of downline sending the right people.
But it's not about sending a Republican instead

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of a Democrat. It's about sending
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I mean, you know that people
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is kind enough to have me on
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they'll rattle off a list of Democratic
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you know, a big part of
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I'll kind of say, I agree, And how about Mitch McConnell, and

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how about Speaker Johnson? And you
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name. These are these people are
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think that is? Oh? I
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I think that in general, Angelo
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when he wrote about the ruling class. I think that the people that go

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to Washington either go there for the
purpose of maximizing power, profit, privilege,

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and prestige, or if they don't, soon upon their arrival they learn

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about their ability to do so,
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them the promises. They made easier
to run by the way on a promise

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than an accomplishment, so they can
just continue to promise. But in the

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meantime they benefit themselves extraordinarily on a
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their subjects. Yeah, I think
it's in some sense, you know,

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in terms of I've always believed that
people should be given a fair chance to

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be successful. Fair chance to win
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intentioned. They give you the promise
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stuff, and then we send them
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as soon as they get there,
they're immediately shocked with the reality as they

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go through orientation and they tell them, you know, first of all,

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I ask them me, what do
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and they go, well, you
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and that, and this is why
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Your number one job is to get
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in terms of everything that you do
here promotes your reelection. So suddenly all

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those promises, all those things you
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become subordinate to you being re elected. So you know, that's the paradigm,

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and that is the disease of the
entire Beltway. This is what they

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think. Just like you said,
you laid it out. It's power,

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it's control, it's self aggrandizement,
it's taking advantage, it's doing what Nancy

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Pelosi has done over the years and
other politicians. I mean, what is

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she worth now? One hundred and
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two hundred thousand dollars a year salary. You've got Kamala Harris. I know

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these are Democrats, but you can
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I'm just familiar more with them.
Kamala Harris, I think when she entered

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in as vice president was worth something
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she's worth over thirteen million dollars in
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what happens. This is how the beltwegh

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just choose these people up and here
we are. We keep voting them in

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and we throw them into the machine, and then we wonder why we don't

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get what we paid for right well, and it's it is a direct reflection

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of the actual people themselves being elected. You talked about the machine chewing them

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up. You can't choose steel,
and we don't send steeled people where America's

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best and brightest don't want run for
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perhaps there might be two requirements to
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is that you take an ethics course
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it. Yeah, because because certainly
we don't. We aren't sending people there

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with any sort of ethical foundation.
We have four hundred and thirty five plus

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another one hundred, you know,
five hundred and thirty five folks who are

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basically pure moral relativists, and their
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pain, and that all comes at
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as Americans, and maximizing our pain. And this has been going on for

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a very long time. It gets
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to just when we think we can't
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in Washington, we find a way. So we'll see how deep we sink

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this November. Well, unfortunately,
it's the ugly side of the human condition

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and our levels of creativity. We
were warned of this and we see it

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happening before our eyes. And Brent, I think some people, you know,

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they're they're ready to throw their hands
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I surrender, you know, I
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straighten this out. This is such
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politicians that are so willing to kill, you know, kill babies in the

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womb to you know, alter the
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know, to expose them to pornography, you know, levels of pornography that

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you and I you know, couldn't
even get close to when we were kids.

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Now our kids can go in the
library and have access or even in

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classrooms being you know told to you
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this is just insane where we are
and it's untenable. I mean this,

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this destroys societies, and here we
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consider that the average nation historically lasts
about two hundred and fifty years, is

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if America is approaching its expiration date, what do you say? Well,

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it could very well be. So
a couple of thoughts. Number one,

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with regard to people getting ready to
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this, don't and don't throw up. By saying don't throw up your hands,

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I don't mean that you have to
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of the big mistakes that we make
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all we can do is sort of
run for office or vote for the right

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person who's running for office. There
is an extraordinary amount of work that needs

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to be done one human being to
another to try to restore the ideas that

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natural law, individual liberty, human
freedom matter, and to show people that

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those things are increasingly being taken away. You don't have to run for officer,

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cast to vote to be part of
that fight. There's all kinds of

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things you can do, whether it's
at your dining room table or in the

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public square in your town. Give
up for those who are waiting for God,

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to come and help. I would
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what I mean by that is man
has four things that no other living creature

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has. We have reason, free
will, a cons and a capacity for

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faith. And if one believes in
God, then we have to say God

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gave us all four of those.
Yes, And if God gave us all

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four of those, perhaps God already
showed up and it is up to us

413
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not to wait for Him to do
something. It is up to us to

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use the gifts that were already given
to us by Him and use them ourselves

415
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and do something something to contemplate.
I guess no, well said. I

416
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think it's spot on, Brent.
You know what you're saying here, because

417
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you know, if it's going to
happen, it's got to be up to

418
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you and me, the man in
the mirror. And as you say,

419
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it starts at home. I mean, look at the level of fatherlessness that

420
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exists in our country today, and
you know what kind of effect that's had.

421
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You know, parents now are starting
to rise up and you know,

422
00:34:08.440 --> 00:34:15.400
be proactive and parent teachers Organizations ptas
you know, around the country realizing after

423
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COVID, you know, how our
kids were being in doctrinatetive things that they

424
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were being exposed to, these gender
option bathrooms that have put young girls into

425
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serious, vulnerable and dangerous consequences.
You know, you know, I mean,

426
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this has really gotten out of hands. So families have got to That's

427
00:34:37.480 --> 00:34:40.400
that's the strength of any kind of
society and culture is we've got to,

428
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you know, build up the family
so it starts at home. And when

429
00:34:45.760 --> 00:34:51.159
it starts at home like that,
you have an organic response naturally, because

430
00:34:51.199 --> 00:34:55.920
you will be all the wiser and
understanding that you need to have, you

431
00:34:55.920 --> 00:35:01.760
know, representatives in your local government
because that's where things happen a lot faster,

432
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right as opposed to the federal level, things do happen faster at a

433
00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:13.360
local level. Local levels matter for
anybody in your audience that is of the

434
00:35:13.400 --> 00:35:19.199
opinion that the twenty twenty election was
either stolen at a maximum or interfered with

435
00:35:19.280 --> 00:35:23.360
at a minimum. I would suggest
that all of that interference couldn't have taken

436
00:35:23.440 --> 00:35:29.119
place were it not for the presence
of people who wanted to interfere with that

437
00:35:29.159 --> 00:35:35.039
election at the local level, precinct
by precinct, and so getting involved in

438
00:35:35.119 --> 00:35:39.199
local politics is a really good idea. Local public service. One of the

439
00:35:39.360 --> 00:35:45.000
curses, and it's a true curse
of twenty four hour national cable news,

440
00:35:45.840 --> 00:35:52.599
is that it makes us bored with
small ball. You know, we get

441
00:35:52.599 --> 00:35:54.280
to turn on our TV twenty four
hours a day and we get to watch

442
00:35:54.280 --> 00:36:00.159
some national figure, whether it's on
Fox or MSNBC or whatever you preferences,

443
00:36:00.679 --> 00:36:05.920
and they're all talking about all the
big national issues and then you say,

444
00:36:05.960 --> 00:36:09.199
well, what about my local zoning
committee. Yeah, well that's sound very

445
00:36:09.199 --> 00:36:15.239
glamorous. They don't talk about that
on Fox News. And so there's there's

446
00:36:15.280 --> 00:36:21.920
a seduction that comes with being given
constant access to seeing the higher level,

447
00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:27.320
and we lose track of the importance
of serving at the lower level. But

448
00:36:27.400 --> 00:36:31.360
that is from which all things come. So fight the burden and get involved.

449
00:36:31.559 --> 00:36:36.320
Yeah. Maybe, like the way
you're pointing this out is what we're

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00:36:36.360 --> 00:36:39.960
seeing is at the federal level,
even though, like you say, sometimes

451
00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:45.159
you know, we got to be
careful not to become anesthetized by what's happening

452
00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:49.320
on the federal level. But you
need to understand if it's happening on the

453
00:36:49.360 --> 00:36:52.199
federal level, it starts at the
local level. So you got to just

454
00:36:52.280 --> 00:36:58.159
pull it back and say Okay,
if it might be boring and irrelevant for

455
00:36:58.199 --> 00:37:00.719
me to see what's happening on a
federal level, but you need to ask

456
00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:06.000
yourself the next question is how did
it get there? How did it get

457
00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:09.320
to the federal level if not by
the local level starting it out first?

458
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Don't you think that's that's very true? And let me let me just build

459
00:37:15.199 --> 00:37:21.480
on that to share the what I
believe is the hardest point about trying to

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00:37:21.519 --> 00:37:24.440
reverse what we see going on in
the country. So, as human beings,

461
00:37:24.480 --> 00:37:28.679
we have some things that are sort
of natural to us. First of

462
00:37:28.719 --> 00:37:32.320
all, we we like to know
where things start, where did this start?

463
00:37:32.440 --> 00:37:36.880
And we like to know where's it
going to end? Right? And

464
00:37:36.920 --> 00:37:42.039
then we also we also like to
think that almost all the things that are

465
00:37:42.079 --> 00:37:45.960
really ever matter in human history are
going to happen in our lifetime. That

466
00:37:45.159 --> 00:37:51.239
it is in our life that the
big moments take place. And it doesn't

467
00:37:51.239 --> 00:37:54.480
mean we necessarily believe it will,
it's that we hope for it. Right

468
00:37:54.599 --> 00:38:00.199
this importance, So why does why
do I bring this up? People will

469
00:38:00.239 --> 00:38:01.880
have to understand that if they get
in the fight today and they're over the

470
00:38:01.920 --> 00:38:07.320
age of I don't know seven,
the likelihood that they're going to live to

471
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see the kind of America they'd like
to see, one built on notions of

472
00:38:13.800 --> 00:38:17.320
individual liberty and self governance, self
reliance and so on. The odds that

473
00:38:17.320 --> 00:38:22.800
they're going to live to see it
happen are very remote because it's going to

474
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be a generational struggle exactly. So
if you want to get into this,

475
00:38:28.800 --> 00:38:31.239
you're not going to be able to
see the ending. It's not that easy

476
00:38:31.239 --> 00:38:35.280
to see where it all began because
it didn't begin in one place. And

477
00:38:35.400 --> 00:38:37.760
oh, by the way, if
you want to think it's in your lifetime

478
00:38:37.760 --> 00:38:38.840
that it's all going to change and
you're going to live to see it,

479
00:38:39.320 --> 00:38:44.000
think again, and be committed to
do something that's going to have long term

480
00:38:44.119 --> 00:38:47.000
lasting value. Maybe you'll be remembered, maybe you won't be, but you

481
00:38:47.039 --> 00:38:52.679
will be important if you join in
the fight. Yeah, that's a good

482
00:38:52.679 --> 00:38:57.599
point. I mean, we all
have a role to play, you know,

483
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God willing if America is to come
back, is to be if it

484
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is to be revived. You know. The good news, I guess for

485
00:39:05.280 --> 00:39:09.639
those of us is to understand that
America thrived, you know, in the

486
00:39:09.719 --> 00:39:15.639
early years when it held to its
principles. It's when it lost sight,

487
00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:20.199
and you know, and the attacks
on this democracy. I mean, we

488
00:39:20.199 --> 00:39:25.079
were an irritant to the world and
the world leaders because you know, here

489
00:39:25.119 --> 00:39:29.400
it is. You know, you
got these crazy colonists to decide. You

490
00:39:29.440 --> 00:39:31.559
know, they don't want a king. They don't want to be like us.

491
00:39:32.119 --> 00:39:35.760
They want the people to be kings. Are you kidding me? These

492
00:39:35.760 --> 00:39:38.440
guys are messed up. I mean, this threatens their own rule and reign,

493
00:39:38.519 --> 00:39:43.440
doesn't it. And so here it
is, we come in with this

494
00:39:43.599 --> 00:39:47.239
idea, is putting our declaration of
independence, this great American idea, and

495
00:39:47.239 --> 00:39:54.360
we stated even further in our constitution. And look what happens. I mean,

496
00:39:54.480 --> 00:39:59.840
in a matter of one hundred years, America has turned the world on

497
00:39:59.880 --> 00:40:02.840
it head because of the level of
success we've been able to have. But

498
00:40:04.320 --> 00:40:09.559
as you said, you know,
something good cannot happen without an adversary.

499
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And so at the same time as
America was growing, you had these antithical

500
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forces who have come in to pollute
this American idea. You know, some

501
00:40:22.320 --> 00:40:23.760
people want to say, oh,
well, America started going down in the

502
00:40:23.840 --> 00:40:28.159
mid fifties. I say, well, it's back. Probably the truth be

503
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known. Probably in the middle eighteen
hundreds, you can go back and start

504
00:40:30.960 --> 00:40:34.719
seeing the signs. And then of
course when you turn the corner in the

505
00:40:34.760 --> 00:40:39.440
early nineteen hundreds when public education came
into play and there was a takeover you

506
00:40:39.440 --> 00:40:45.000
know, almost by default by progressives. And here it is, I mean,

507
00:40:45.239 --> 00:40:50.880
this is in the midst of you
know, founding fathers and people still

508
00:40:51.000 --> 00:40:53.880
not so much the founding bother is
still around. But other originalists who were

509
00:40:53.960 --> 00:41:00.519
there that realized that morality and religion
was so important, and they allowed these

510
00:41:00.559 --> 00:41:06.960
anti religionists to come in and hijack
our education with a specific purpose in mind.

511
00:41:07.320 --> 00:41:12.360
Is they continued their slow but progressive
march through the institutions of our country

512
00:41:12.400 --> 00:41:15.639
that find us where we are today. Brent right well, and you know,

513
00:41:15.679 --> 00:41:21.440
and so something like, you know, the idea of religion being important

514
00:41:22.519 --> 00:41:25.880
understood, I get that. And
then the other side of that is,

515
00:41:25.960 --> 00:41:30.679
of course, whose religion. I'd
make an argument, for example, that

516
00:41:31.599 --> 00:41:36.719
the Puritans, while they had a
wonderful work ethic and you can point to

517
00:41:36.800 --> 00:41:40.639
the great things they did to help
build the country foundationally, in terms of

518
00:41:40.679 --> 00:41:46.800
their in terms of their moral behavior, these people were certainly their leadership and

519
00:41:47.159 --> 00:41:52.639
many of their regular members, they
were the word despicable comes to mind.

520
00:41:52.760 --> 00:41:59.039
I mean their punishment practices, that
the well known hanging of witches and all

521
00:41:59.079 --> 00:42:05.039
these other things Puritans were despicable.
I wouldn't want to live in a Puritan

522
00:42:05.119 --> 00:42:08.559
America where we were filled with their
religion, because I think their religion was

523
00:42:08.599 --> 00:42:15.840
sort of corrupt and awful. The
point of it all is is that regardless

524
00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:21.360
of your notion or concept of faith, what has to go with it is

525
00:42:21.599 --> 00:42:29.000
a deep and abiding belief in self
reliance and individual determination and liberty. Because

526
00:42:29.000 --> 00:42:32.159
that way my faith, your faith, however they might be expressed or be

527
00:42:32.199 --> 00:42:40.159
different, can't harm one another.
We've gotten away from that. So they

528
00:42:40.239 --> 00:42:45.880
we've gotten away from from faith versus
religion. Religion is what Man created.

529
00:42:45.159 --> 00:42:49.800
I mean even Jesus hated the religion, you know, religious you know,

530
00:42:49.880 --> 00:42:52.920
So again these are words that are
important, as you talk about in your

531
00:42:52.920 --> 00:42:58.519
book, right, they are,
they are, And so that's you know,

532
00:42:58.559 --> 00:43:04.239
the recognition that you know, as
we face a certain form of totalitarianism

533
00:43:04.719 --> 00:43:12.119
in the country today that's quite secular
in nation. We've faced totalitarian situations even

534
00:43:12.159 --> 00:43:16.559
before this country was formed, that
was more religious in its orientation. Right,

535
00:43:16.960 --> 00:43:24.400
what's the lesson The lesson is that
throughout almost all of human history,

536
00:43:24.760 --> 00:43:30.880
the many have been controlled by the
few or the one. And since that's

537
00:43:31.000 --> 00:43:37.920
been the condition of man for most
of human history in most places, right,

538
00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:43.719
we have to start to ask is
that our natural state? I would

539
00:43:43.719 --> 00:43:46.440
suggest that it is. I think
so. Yeah. It's not that we're

540
00:43:46.480 --> 00:43:50.880
meant to be free, it's that
we aspire to be free, and that

541
00:43:50.960 --> 00:43:53.679
means in order to stay free,
it's going to take even more work than

542
00:43:53.679 --> 00:43:59.079
our founding fathers might have imagined.
Well, and this idea of liberty,

543
00:43:59.119 --> 00:44:01.320
to me, this is what it's
all about. And this is God given.

544
00:44:01.599 --> 00:44:06.760
You know, even our founding fathers
understood that. They refer to it

545
00:44:06.760 --> 00:44:12.119
as an inalienable right, you know, not given to man by government or

546
00:44:12.199 --> 00:44:16.039
politics or anybody who was in office
at the time. These This is a

547
00:44:16.239 --> 00:44:22.719
natural consequence and gift from God himself. But apart from God, you don't

548
00:44:22.800 --> 00:44:28.559
understand that. And that's that's part
of the problem, is that man without

549
00:44:28.599 --> 00:44:35.239
God is lost and it it rises
lowers. However, waight, whatever direction

550
00:44:35.320 --> 00:44:43.840
you want to say to its fundamental
raw instincts, and that is that you

551
00:44:43.880 --> 00:44:50.760
know that power makes might, strength
makes might, and it's it is governed

552
00:44:50.760 --> 00:44:55.480
by those who are have enough power
in order to overcome the weak. And

553
00:44:55.519 --> 00:45:00.880
so the week end up complying and
follow and so you a small group of

554
00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:07.360
people in charge that yes, that's
correct, and you know, the whole

555
00:45:07.400 --> 00:45:12.920
notion of you know, we have
quotes from our founding fathers about the need

556
00:45:13.320 --> 00:45:17.000
to have a god to hold a
society together. You can even go back

557
00:45:17.039 --> 00:45:22.679
to arguably one of the most famous
atheists of all time, Friedrich Nietzsche,

558
00:45:22.960 --> 00:45:28.199
who in the late eighteen hundreds.
You know, everybody knows his great line

559
00:45:28.199 --> 00:45:31.920
where he said God is dead,
but they don't know the context in which

560
00:45:31.920 --> 00:45:36.800
he was offering it. He was
offering that by saying God is dead because

561
00:45:36.880 --> 00:45:40.880
man's killed him, and he was
looking at modern society at that time and

562
00:45:42.039 --> 00:45:45.760
think about the comforts we have today. And basically he said that people were

563
00:45:45.840 --> 00:45:53.000
outgrowing this god notion because of their
comfort and they killed him off. You

564
00:45:53.039 --> 00:45:58.079
would think that Nietzsche would think that
was a wonderful thing, because he thought

565
00:45:58.280 --> 00:46:02.239
the idea of God held people.
But he was concerned. Because he was

566
00:46:02.360 --> 00:46:07.559
concerned, I guess basically you could
paraphrase by saying he didn't know if men

567
00:46:07.599 --> 00:46:10.679
were ready to have God be dead
just yet, and the point of it

568
00:46:10.760 --> 00:46:19.400
is absent some sort of belief in
a power greater than ourselves. You know,

569
00:46:19.480 --> 00:46:22.039
we're sort of right back to where
we started this conversation a while ago

570
00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:28.840
about consequence. Exactly. If you
remove the idea of consequence from people,

571
00:46:29.280 --> 00:46:31.920
how will they behave? You know, for some people, consequences fear of

572
00:46:31.960 --> 00:46:36.119
a bankruptcy. For some of them, it's fear of imprisonment. For some

573
00:46:36.199 --> 00:46:38.239
of them it might be fear of
eternal damnation. That's a big one.

574
00:46:38.960 --> 00:46:43.920
And when you start to remove that
fear of that consequence from people, then

575
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you could say, perhaps quite literally
and metaphorically, all health breaks loose exactly.

576
00:46:49.360 --> 00:46:53.000
Brent Hamichak is with his co author
of the book Dissonantly speaking, Change

577
00:46:53.000 --> 00:46:57.960
the Words, Change the War.
Brent is also the vice president and the

578
00:46:58.000 --> 00:47:01.639
associate publisher for Human Events Media Group
BRND. We had a couple of minutes

579
00:47:01.719 --> 00:47:07.519
left. I'm gonna turn it over
to you. Let you summarize the book,

580
00:47:07.000 --> 00:47:12.880
how people can get their hands on
the book, and how we can

581
00:47:13.400 --> 00:47:19.000
change our words and change the war. Sure, I appreciate that. First

582
00:47:19.000 --> 00:47:23.039
of all, the book title and
subtitle I can't take any credit for it

583
00:47:23.039 --> 00:47:28.440
comes from my dear friend and colleague, Felyssa Blojak, who designed the cover.

584
00:47:28.559 --> 00:47:31.159
I joke that it's the first book
that'll ever sell a million copies and

585
00:47:31.239 --> 00:47:34.880
no one will read it because they'll
buy it for table art. It's so

586
00:47:35.000 --> 00:47:40.280
clever. But you can go to
Dissidantly Speaking dot com and you can tap

587
00:47:40.360 --> 00:47:45.440
through the books available in all four
formats, including audio. All of the

588
00:47:45.480 --> 00:47:52.719
proceeds of the book go to support
Bridge Charities and the Common Ground campus program

589
00:47:52.800 --> 00:47:57.480
that Felicita designed and that the two
of us support and work at. And

590
00:47:57.639 --> 00:48:01.000
what we're trying to do is work
with young peopleeople to help them learn how

591
00:48:01.000 --> 00:48:07.960
to engage others constructively and how to
think critically and skeptically. We're playing the

592
00:48:07.039 --> 00:48:13.280
long game. We're investing our time
and talent and treasure in working with,

593
00:48:13.719 --> 00:48:15.239
you know, people that have something
that at my age I don't have.

594
00:48:15.320 --> 00:48:19.440
They have a future I have.
I have a past, and you know

595
00:48:19.440 --> 00:48:22.920
what time is it. But these
young people have a future, and so

596
00:48:23.000 --> 00:48:28.480
we're trying to help shape the way
they approach issues and others for the next

597
00:48:28.840 --> 00:48:32.800
seventy years of their lives. Tell
when you buy a book, you're I

598
00:48:32.960 --> 00:48:36.480
like to say that you're doing a
good work. It might not be a

599
00:48:36.519 --> 00:48:40.360
good read, but it definitely is
a good work. So there, that's

600
00:48:40.440 --> 00:48:44.679
those are my thoughts. Well,
I can say it is a good read.

601
00:48:45.119 --> 00:48:51.840
It's it's provocative where it needs to
be provocative. It causes you to

602
00:48:51.840 --> 00:48:58.280
to think critically something that's been missing. And hopefully what this will do for

603
00:48:58.400 --> 00:49:01.599
those that read your book, Brent, then it will cause them to be

604
00:49:02.480 --> 00:49:09.280
more compassionate and less emotional and less
reactive, to be a better listener.

605
00:49:10.199 --> 00:49:15.000
I think we're better people as we
listen better. Don't you look? All

606
00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:20.440
we're trying to do is we're trying
to flip two words in the English language,

607
00:49:20.480 --> 00:49:23.760
and we're trying to get people to
stop saying it is. We're trying

608
00:49:23.800 --> 00:49:28.639
to get them to start asking is
it. We're trying to get them to

609
00:49:28.760 --> 00:49:34.440
understand that the two most powerful people
in the history of Western civilization were Socrates

610
00:49:34.440 --> 00:49:37.960
and Jesus Christ. They had two
things in common. They both died for

611
00:49:38.000 --> 00:49:44.039
their advocacy, that's the tragedy.
But they also change the course of history

612
00:49:44.039 --> 00:49:49.039
by asking questions. And so we
want people to ask questions and engage others

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and to make them think and hopefully
in the process make themselves think and thinking.

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We think he's a good thing.
Yes exactly, Brent Hamitchak, You're

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awesome. Thank you so much,
UH for blessing us greatly, and congratulations

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on the book. Dissonantly speaking,
I have a great day. Be blessed,

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my friend. Thank you, Thank
you too, and thank you ladies

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and gentlemen for sharing a part of
your day. Hopefully this has been a

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blessing to you. Get a copy
of Brent's book. This will cause you

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to think differently. It will cause
you to be more mindful of the words

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you speak and and where your heart
is coming from. On that this will

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you know, I know, this
will bless you. Thank you again for

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being with us. May God bless
you and keep you. May face shine

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upon you and give you peace.
Thank you for being with us. Take

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care, God bless