70’s and 80’s LA Radio From Two Unlikely Latinos

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choosing W FORCY Radio. Well,
good afternoon, and welcome to the Bill

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Martini Show. Great to have you
with us. We're gonna break a little

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format today, Okay, I hope
that's okay with you. Oftentimes people ask

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me, well, how did you
get into this business? What's your background?

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I've read some stories about you and
LA Radio and on and on,

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and of course sometimes it's really hard
to, you know, talk about yourself

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because we just think it's not all
that interesting, you know. But for

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some reason people think we are and
they want to know more about us.

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So I thought, well, right, what I'm going to do. I

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can't do this by myself. I
have to have one of my dearest friends

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of all time in the radio business, Val Valentine. I got to drag

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him into this because we were known
to dragging each other into things, you

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know, whether it was Roller Derby
at the Forum or going through the training

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camp of the lat Birds, you
know, back in the back in the

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eighties, latter seventies, and that
with Ralphie Valadarison, John Hall. We

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got ourselves into a lot of trouble, but for the most part, we

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stayed out of jail. So I
guess we were We were overall successful.

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So what I'm going to share with
you is a look back of LA Radio

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back in the seventies and eighties,
where he had two unlikely Latinos come into

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the marketplace at a time when you
never heard of a Hispanic last name on

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a contemporary LA radio station. I
was fortunate enough to break through, break

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the ceiling, so to speak,
out of my you know, Marine Corps

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career where I was doing. You
know, I guess Cam Pendleton's version of

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Good Morning Camp Pendleton not Vietnam during
Vietnam era, but I stayed stateside and

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anyway, I ended up in LA
Radio after that, and then Val came

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in slow shortly behind and Val Valentine, my good friend, joins us.

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Now, hey, Val, how
are you doing, buddy? I'm doing

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all right. How's it going,
Billy, It's going, it's going great.

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I'm so glad that we could finally
have a chance to do this.

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As I mentioned to you, this
has been a dream of my sons for

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the longest time, said Dad,
You've got to tell your story. And

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oh, you know, how how
are we going to go about doing that?

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So here you are, here,
we are once again that two amigos,

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you know, just doing it one
more one more time. Well,

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Val, let's talk about your radio
career. You know, how did you

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get started? You know, I
got started college radio station Rio Hondo College

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and Whittier, huh. And some
successful people have come out of there.

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You know, it's like Daniel Merro
ABC. There's a weather in Los Angeles.

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We have the unknown disc jockey at
Kate Straight for a while. Now,

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what year was that when you came
in? Oh? You know,

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I started in radio nineteen The Rio
Hondow thing was nineteen seventy one, right,

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okay, And then I took a
radio station in Rexpergaidaho. My name

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is actually Valentine Udado. But in
rex Spergaido, it's a Mormon town and

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it's kind of like, you know, back we're talking about seventies. So

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they said that I had to change
my name. There's something that's not so

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Latino because the sponsors, you know, there's a little lippy about that.

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So it's been val Valentine and I, you know, I've worked with that

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name forever. So I started there. I went from there. I went

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to Kate's I K and Palm Springs
Yes, and then KFXM, and then

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uh you worked with Rochelle stopped.
I was looking one of the radio stations

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in Ontario and she was going to
Vegas. On our way through. She

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listened to me, gave me a
call and uh from Kiss Right program gret

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Kiss FM. And when I got
to kiss you were there. She hired

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me on the spot. Wow,
you're already there. I mean, I

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mean you were like already You're just
you're just too good looking. She couldn't

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turn you down. I it's like
looking, Billy, you do TV.

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You're you're very good in TV.
You've done TV, You've done radio,

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You've done you've done the gamut right
me, I'm made me radio like You've

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always told me I got a face
for radio, and I was saying,

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yeah, that that you got a
face for radio. So I stayed there.

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Uh you know, and I've had
a heck of a run, both

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of us have. I mean,
we got stories to go and we've been

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we've been. We've been pretty blessed, no doubt about it. I mean

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even when I came to LA at
the time, even though I was down

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in Orange County working at k w
I Z and Santa Anna, I was

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Bill Martinez. Of course, I
was Bill Martinez during the day. Uh,

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you know, corporal Martinis. Uh, you know, you know us

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working corps. And then on the
weekends, I worked three shifts. I

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worked Saturday morning six to ten,
came back Saturday night midnight to four,

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and then Sunday night six to ten
at night. And it was pretty incredible.

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I was making more money on those
three shifts than I was all week

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in the Marine Corps. So you
know, it's it's uh, when I

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was out in Ontario and stuff,
I mean, I'm, yeah, I'm

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working a Kake car and Pomona k
so I am and then uh remember the

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real two reels where you're automated radio
stations. I'm wearing two stations at the

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same time, you know, uh, putting the putt, putting the reels

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on, and doing my shift right, and the songs weren't that long,

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you know. I had to run
back and forth. Those were the days,

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my friends, I thought they never
end, you know, that's right

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right? Well, yeah, and
then in between you had to do a

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fifteen minute news Uh we'll go newsery
right, so yeah, and my first

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radio station guests says, I had
to do all that. And after I

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got off work, I had to
feed the horse because I had a horse

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in the back. You know,
you had to feed the horse. That

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was part of my did you know, because you know, I'm making a

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dollar fifteen an hour, guaranteed four
hours right in Idaho. And it seemed

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like I'm making its meat. But
you know, I mean I had to

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feed the horse. That's part of
it, you know. And I'm hungry

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for radio. I wanted at all
costs feed the horse. I'll feed the

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horse, yeah, of course,
whatever it takes. Nobody else will be

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there. I'll be the horse.
Open up the microphone, right right,

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I gotta go. Can I ride
that puppy? That's hysterical. I've had

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to do some crazy things, but
I haven't been blessed enough to feed a

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horse. But I definitely took a
may. I remember when I was working

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in the college radio station in Ventura. I was basically a student general manager

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of the radio station, and I
really you know, my idea at that

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time bell was not to go into
entertainment. I saw myself, of course,

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coming out of high school. It
was you know, actually I thought,

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well, I was going to be
a priest. And then I realized

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I never told me that I love. No, I've never you know,

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I was wanted. I didn't not
know that about you just until brighton.

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Now, I can't believe a Catholic
priest, you know, years through all

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that, and then my mom says
she wanted grandkids and she didn't want me

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to be priest. Well I see, well that's see all Hispanic kids.

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I mean, it was like one
child had to be sacrificed to the priesthood

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or something right, right, and
so anyway, I mean I had determined.

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I mean, because what happens when
you go to Catholic school. They

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started in kindergarten, they and they
asked the kindergarten kids. You know,

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the monsenior will come in and greet
the kids and ask how many you boys

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want to be priests when you grow
up? And of course all the boys

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are raising hands, right, and
then uh, and then it uh.

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Then the head nun would come in
and ask the girls, how many of

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you girls want to be nuns?
All they all raise their hands. So

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you know, by the time you
get in a second third grade, there's

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less and less hands, and and
you know, by time I got into

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eighth grade, uh, you know, then we're done about maybe six and

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so. But anyway, I really
thought, uh, even up through my

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high school years, even though I
left a Catholic high school and went to

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a public high school, I still
thought, okay, well maybe the Marineal

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seminary. That's that's what I need
to do. But then a lot of

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changes happened within the Catholic Church.
So I decided I say, okay,

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well maybe maybe I need to rethink
this. And so I went from going

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into thinking I was going to the
seminary. So then I got married.

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And so talk about something radical,
right, You go from I think I'm

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going to be a priest then uh, you know, getting married. Maybe

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it was the celibacy thing. Maybe
that's what bothered you. Well, well,

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but you know, if you were
my therapist, I tell you that

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you're funny. Yeah really well no, later on probably, but you know,

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right then I think it was still
kind of fifty fifty but still but

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nonetheless, I mean, hey,
look at your eighteen years old, but

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you know, and so But anyway, all that to say is that here

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I am, I'm going to school. I'm running this student radio station and

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learning about it and got involved doing
some uh you know, colors for sports

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color radio for local station, and
I started having fun. But even then,

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I thought, Okay, I'm just
gonna I'm gonna finish up my two

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years here and I'm gonna go to
San Jose State. I'm gonna be a

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pe coach and live happily ever after
with my two point three kids in a

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white pick fence in baseball. That's
that's really I thought it was going right.

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And and so then all of a
sudden, uh, you know,

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radio, I started realizing it was
fun. I started working at a I

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got my first professional job working at
a country station, believe it or not,

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in Ventura, and uh, you
know, and and one thing led

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to another next thing, you know, I'm up in Sacramento. You know,

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you go country when you're a country
at my age, you don't necessarily

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want to play country music, but
you figure, hey, look what,

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I gotta learned to drive the car. So whether you know I'm playing the

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Beatles or you know, or Sugar
Sugar from the Archies, you know,

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I'm playing Mother Maaker, Johnny Cash
or whatever. You know. So but

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anyway, uh so so so then
from going to northern California, I end

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up in Bakersfield. And then while
I'm in Bakersfield, I had left college

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and lost my deferment during uh during
the you know, the days of being

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when they were dropping the ping pong
balls, you know, and so remember

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that I was a number of one
sixty five. So you know, how

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how did you avoid it? Because
here once I was like too something and

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they got me, really, uh
were you hiding? Were you were riding

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the horse? No? No,
I was like going there. You know,

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I was like encourageable. Actually,
you know, I had to interview

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a couple of year old girlfriends and
they said, no, he's import he

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don't want him get there, man, He's like you know, and uh,

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and you know Originally I want I
started in journalism. I may I

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wanted to be a writer. I'm
I'm a pretty good writer. I wanted

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to work for the herold examinera.
Remember the hell Los angles exactly, It's

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not wrong no more. But I
wanted to be a writer. So I

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started out in journalism. And I
was doing the news at the at the

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college radio station, right doing the
news. So and then I go back

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to and and now here's the whoever
was on the air right doing the music,

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and he's having a lot of fun. Look at I'm being journalism.

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Might walk out and he's got all
the girls around him looking through the window.

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And you know, I said,
what's up. I'm you know,

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I'm that understid. I'm nineteen,
you know, all right, and I

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like girls. Right, well,
thanks thanks getting all the girls and news

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guy's not getting nothing, and I'm
the news guy. Yeah, I made

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a sort And to this day they
still complain val because you know, even

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though they try and say that radio
personalities are a dying braid. Oh no,

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oh yeah, you know, it's
there's just something bizarre about it.

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I never quite understood. I never
quite understood that. But I don't get

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it. In there, you know, but it's it's crazy and we've got

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we've got stories. Of course,
maybe we'll put it in a book because

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we can't we can't possibly do it
here because we get in trouble. You've

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got somebody that is a writer or
somebody if I think if I give you

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my notes, maybe you'll make a
story out of it, you know,

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I don't know. We have a
lot of stories. Some we can say

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on the air, some we can't. Uh, the ones we can't,

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they're pretty funny. But but the
ones we can't say on the air are

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pretty funny too. I mean,
you grew up in air Sa Mara as

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me like the Draken format, right
remember before that it was like it was

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hugey boy art La beaut and they
did a different kind of radio. I

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mean it was like in a big
studio with you know. That was the

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old Carola Carola. Remember it got
into a lot of trouble because it was

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owned by Jack Kent and Jack Kent
uh was not he was Canadian, he

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wasn't an American citizen, so technically
he wasn't supposed to own the station,

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so he kind of if I remember
correctly, the story was that he put

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it in his brother's name, and
they there was some you know, back

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in the days, every once in
a while, shock of shocks, you

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know, the radio stations would have
scrutiny over a contest or something, and

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there'd be a rigged contest. And
anyway, somehow they had to do an

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investigation and discovered that Jack didn't really
own the station. It was owned by

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his brother. So the FCC reclaimed
the station and the life since for like

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nineteen years. Val it was a
different differenteen years they held they held the

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station under receivership and uh, and
then it wasn't until the end of the

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nineteen years there started. Uh,
it was just losing money. It was

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a medicine. And then I think
Art linked Letter and a couple of other

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investors took over. And then uh, and then you got Art le Beau

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who came in. We kind of
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And they were so desperate they were
just saying, hey, just save us,

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and and he did and uh,
and that was a I didn't know,

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I think about three or four years
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running the station and until they finally
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detangled from the receivership because there was
some controversy over the ownership because even though

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it was assigned to to Linked Letter
and his group, there were a couple

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other people still lingering and vying for, you know, kind of the piece

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of the station, so to speak. You know what about about you that

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makes so I look when I first
came to Kiss and I'd heard of Billy

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Martinez, you know, uh and
uh you or like right now you're talking

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about the session was losing money.
You are a business person in the business

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of radio. You know, you
know all the facts and figures, numbers.

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You're like a businessman, and yet
you're a celebrity. You know,

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you're you're on the air and TV
radio. I'm not run the whole gamut.

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I wish I knew more business me
I'm considered like telling that that's you

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know, that's like they put me
here, they put me there. Uh

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you talk here talk at the quarter
hour, say kiss like them or one

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word I go, I'm not gonna
just say kiss FM or KROA. You

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know, it's like come on,
I mean, you're not giving me a

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freedom to do anything. They're probably
dummy cards, you know, and like

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right now, we're flying by the
seat of my pants. I have no

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dummy cards. Uh you know,
you know all this isn't written. I

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thought you had it all written.
No, no, you know, I

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said, Demi Cartino. You could
have drove with Ati Woods through that Billy,

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and you know I left I left
it alone, you know, for

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because you could have droven Athi Woods
to that. You always you always like

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to give me. But the Martinez's
were in Los Angeles for a long time.

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Okay, it was Daddy Martinez,
Benny Martinez, Uh, Billy Martinez,

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Patty Martinez. Were you guys all
related? I mean, then the

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Valentine comes in and I'm a Latino? But where'd all the Latinos come from?

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All Martinez is? Isn't that kind
of it was? It was all

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out of nowhere. It happened in
a short period of time because see I

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came to La Radio at kDa after
the Marine Corps. Uh and uh saw

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I'm there and you talk about changing
names. Uh the same thing, A

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run the same problem. I go
to kDa in six hours before I go

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on the air. Bob Wilson,
it was the program director at the time,

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says you're gonna be Bill Martin.
I go, what, Bill Martin,

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you know how how? And the
thing was is Wolfman Jack was working

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there at the time, and in
fact, I was following his show initially

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when I first got there, because
they said there's a different format. You

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need to learn the format here,
so you're gonna you're gonna, you know,

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follow him a little. Did I
know what kind of experience that was

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going to be. But regardless,
the thing was was that Wolfman Jack was

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the one who went to management.
Art Aster, the general manager who later

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on I ended up working for his
country station in Orange County and ran it

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there for a couple of years.
And he was a character in and of

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himself. But he was the general
manager at KAD at the time, and

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Bob Wilson the program director, and
wolf Man Jack said, are you nuts?

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Look where you're at. We're there
in Alvarado Bill Boulevard, in the

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shadow of Chavez Ravine, you know, right in the middle of the Hispanic

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marketing, goes, are you kidding
me? You need to let him use

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his real name. So I remember
when Bob Wilson came in the studio,

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goes, okay, you know it, kind of reluctantly pitching a little bit

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of a fit. And but it
was because of wolf Man Jack. And

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it not for wolf Man Jack,
then we probably would have had to wait

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till Danny Martinez came. Because Danny
Martinez followed shortly after and ended up at

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Cage J about six months after I
was there. You know, I'll tell

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I'll tell you stuf about Wolfman.
Uh. When I was like Caroly,

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Wolfman Jack was there. I think
maybe you had left the station. When

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I first came in, they fired
Wolfman Jack to bring me in. Uh,

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then later on decided me to bring
back Wolfman. This went on three

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or four times in wolf Man,
you know what, Well, just leave

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out there and bring me in and
we'll control it between I did seven and

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midnight, and of course Wolfman did
the midnight right right always, you know

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so I mean and stayed that way. But wolf Man went to bat for

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me. Yeah. Yeah, he
was what he was like, he was

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a you know, it wasn't the
arrogant I used to listen to him when

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I was a kid. Now'll pass
he did the XPRS. Was it out

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of exactly Mexico didn't care about our
American laws two hundred and fifty thousand Watts

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about booming didn't know who they ran
over right, Oh, they didn't care.

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I mean he used to say that
back in those days, there was

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so much r f uh radio frequency
exactly coming off the towers there, that

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if he needed coach Brett, he
would just stick it outside the window.

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I mean exactly. I mean you
can Frian egg on those towers. I

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mean exactly, you know. Uh. And you know, little did I

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realized, look at I'm I'm I'm
off the reservation. I'm out of the

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reservation. Uh In, I'll pass
the text the than in reservation. Right,

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I've been fascinated by radio for whatever
reasons, you know. And I

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would listen to Wolfman Jack. Uh. And little did I realize I'd been

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working with this man, you know, maybe twenty five years later. I

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mean, go imagine and be beyond
work, he went to bat for me.

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I mean, come on, I'm
some kids, you know, came

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from the reservation and we go to
live in Monty White Fence, you know,

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in the varios, you know.
Yeah, but you see, but

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that's that's the fraternity of the brotherhood
of the radio industry that we've been so

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blessed to work. They look at
if you make your little mark in the

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business then and you're trying not to
burn too many bridges. I mean that

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same bridge I burned last time,
I might have to go back over laterally

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as I've gotten older. I don't
burn bridges. I build bridges. That's

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right. Boom, Yeah, I
learn from Yeah, that's one of the

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first lessons that you learned in radio. Because the life expectancy of most radio

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personalities is measured in months. I
was fortunate at most of the stations that

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I worked at that I would be
there for several years. And uh,

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you know, working working a kiss
was a lot of fun values. You

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know we did. We did a
lot of a lot of community involvement.

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You know, we definitely we had
a softball team, we had a volleyball

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team. We'd go out and you
know, and it was so much fun.

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And you know that was during the
days of Charlie Tuna, when Charlie

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was around, and we had a
great time. And you know, I

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mean there it is. You know, we used to raise money. Uh

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who charges some of the games you
know would play at the park, said

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that's not your stadium right there?
Uh, look at Dodger Stadium. Valve

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we're there at Dodger Stadium. I
mean, I grew up playing sports.

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I mean I thought, and here
I am. You know, we're playing

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Dodger Stadium. And who did tell
everybody who we played against that day?

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Happy days? You know the fos
uh you know, Richard Cuttingham, Ralph

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Mouth. I see, I mean, and they usually beat us most of

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the time, you know, because
they cheated. I hate to say that,

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but they were cheers. But there
was just a game. It was

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a charity event. But never That's
why I probably look at if you look

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put that, if you put that
picture back on, who's next to me?

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I just had very mixabilly during this
era. Look at it? And

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then that's Judy Norn Taylor of the
Wallens back right below us. We're friends

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from here. We started doing the
roller derby, remember, Oh yeah,

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Pico Rivera. We exactly we go
to the training camp because we're invited to

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go and do I mean, this
is the thing, right We went on

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a skate switch on a bank track. Oh you know that's crazy. A

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ten foot high bank trap bank track
that you have to learn how to skate

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through the bank. You cannot cruise
to it. You've got skate through it

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right, otherwise it throws you right
into the center on the concrete. Not

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a lot of fun. Yeah,
right, I asked Ralphie one time I

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rapped out. There's you know,
he used to hold the skating speed record

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on land, you know, for
the fastest skater on earth at one time.

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He did the Thunderbird thing down over
there with at the Olympic out a

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tone for over thirty years. Yeah, you know, and what what a

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what a deal that they had,
he and John Hall, John Julie Hardman

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and all them, I mean pretty
Minnie, yeah exactly. But yeah,

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but the thing is with Ralphie,
and you remember Ralphie. Ralphie was like,

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you know, five two, you
know, standing on a chair or

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something like that, and he was
gosh, I don't know, maybe maybe

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a buck fifty, but I mean
a buck fifty, A solid muscle.

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I remember the first time, you
know, he took me out and I

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thought, okay, I could just
bump off of him right right exactly.

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Oh my god, that hurt.
You know. Even the women were like

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Debra Helman, I mean she was
solid muscle herself. Uh, you know,

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I thought I could figure it out. No, there's no way I

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can take any of those goes down. Nobody who I am. You know,

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I'm and I'm young. I mean, I got muscles myself, but

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these goes, we got more muscles. But here it is, you know,

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we go we play Dodger Stadium.
Uh. In that day too,

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by the way, when we were
invited to play at Charlie Tune, I

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think it coordinated that that special event
there with Happy Days. Uh. The

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Dodgers, if I remember that that
year, in that season, they were

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like nineteen twenty games out of first
play. They were done, you know,

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they were so they needed us to
that kind of and he said,

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hey, you know, might as
well do something. Let's try this.

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You know, we hear, you
know, because meanwhile, rumor had got

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out. We were playing out in
the Valley and there'd be thousands of people

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out at a public park watching us. Well, of course watching us,

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they were there to watch Henry Winkler
because Winkler show up and you know,

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it's just just crazy nuts, you
know. And of course Happy Days was

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at the height of their popularity anyway, So the Dodgers are so far out

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of first place. We go there
thirty nine thousand people val remember thirty nine

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thousand. I know that because nobody
want read, nobody watching the Dodgers no

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more. And then it was money
and it's been saying like war we I

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mean, look at and yeah,
we can book thirty nine thousand people with

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the Dodgers. They're only doing sixteen
thousand. Yeah, you know, acting

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I've privileged to have been in that
situation, you know. And I like

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to play softball, you know,
I'm it's for me. It's a game.

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It's fun. You know. I
don't think it as serious as Henry,

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Henry winter Trotti or the sis.
You know they will Henry, well,

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you are compet yourself. I am. That was hard. There was

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no doubt that I was playing always
and I always will be. But but

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Henry, keep in mind, Henry
had just learned how to play, because

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I want to say Richie Cunningham,
but you know who I mean, the

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competitor. Yeah, but but he
was the one that taught him how to

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catch the ball. He didn't even
know how to catch him, he said.

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He said, Yeah, I just
had just been working with him for

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the last ron Howard, I'd been
working with him for the last couple of

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years or so. To do it
but he was such a good sport,

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he really and it was a lot
of fun and we had we had great

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times and you know, had many
you know, celebrity games after that.

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Remember we played another game there we
well, yeah, we're forth to pick.

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I just stayed in quite a few
times, and then I got a

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story. But you're such a competitor. You're a catcher, right, you're

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playing catching? When was the tenant
you were a catcher? I was a

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catcher? Okay, all right?
When when when rich Cunningham was running third

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base? You know that? No, it wasn't wasn't wasn't Cunningham. Are

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you are you talking Cunninghammy, you're
talking about Rosy Gray, Rosy pres another

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another that's another story. Okay,
but tell him that story. But but

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go ahead. So Richie Cunningham,
Ron Ron Howard's third base, and what

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did I do? Nice tlam his
head down in the whole plate or something.

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When I see you're doing you don't
want to say the story. You're

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playing catcher and you're a competitor.
I look at it. It's a fun

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game for me. No, you're
you don't want Ron Howard to get to

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home play. So you stood your
ground, You stick your ground, and

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there was a collision. Next morning, I didn't think nothing. That next

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morning, I'm I picked up the
National Inquirer, right, and they have

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a picture of you and Ron Howard
colliding. You broke run Howard's arm.

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Oh don't remember, Oh no,
I don't know. I would have felt

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really. I got the copy of
the I got the copy of the National

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Enquirers to prove it. Well,
there there it goes. I'm telling you.

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I mean, hey, guilty,
guiltiest charge. There's no doubt.

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I was raised competitively, and I
didn't want I didn't want the kiss Offs

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to be like the Washington Generals against
you know, like against the Globetrotters.

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Right, they were just we won
that game, by the way, that

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game that that picture, We won
that game. I think it was a

408
00:27:41.559 --> 00:27:47.640
yeah, it costs Ron howard Is
arm. Yeah. Well, I mean,

409
00:27:48.079 --> 00:27:49.359
hey, the other story you you
know, you brought it up,

410
00:27:49.640 --> 00:27:52.519
and I thought that's what you were
going to talk about was Rosie Greyer because

411
00:27:52.519 --> 00:27:57.279
we were playing another game. And
here's Rosie Greyer six foot eight, three

412
00:27:57.400 --> 00:28:00.880
hundred and think for the he was
one the fires mforsan, right, Yeah,

413
00:28:02.039 --> 00:28:04.759
I mean the people don't. The
younger people don't realize who Rosy Greer

414
00:28:04.920 --> 00:28:08.680
was. But here's one of the
meanest guys playing for the Rams, right

415
00:28:10.119 --> 00:28:17.160
yeah. So so here he is, and he's coming home and I somehow

416
00:28:17.400 --> 00:28:23.880
end up at home plate with the
ball and here comes Rosie twenty some pounds

417
00:28:23.960 --> 00:28:30.000
of muscle and what happened bearing down
on me all of you know, ven

418
00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:33.960
and I'm thinking, oh my god, something's got to give here. But

419
00:28:33.200 --> 00:28:38.720
so I knew, you know,
just from my competitive days, I had

420
00:28:38.759 --> 00:28:45.279
to hold a position. And next
thing I know, Rosie Greer gets knocked

421
00:28:45.319 --> 00:28:52.759
off his feet. He's he's head
over head over heels. I take him

422
00:28:52.839 --> 00:28:59.319
down and and it was so hysterical
because it just so happened. That about

423
00:29:00.160 --> 00:29:04.720
twenty years after that, bell Uh, Rosie invited me to his house and

424
00:29:06.279 --> 00:29:10.480
uh, you know, we're doing
an interview and he's just such a gracious

425
00:29:10.599 --> 00:29:14.599
man, just really just sweet spirit, and you know, we're talking,

426
00:29:14.920 --> 00:29:18.200
you know, about old times and
recounted the game. Oh my god,

427
00:29:18.319 --> 00:29:21.480
was that you he goes, he
goes, he goes. I was a

428
00:29:21.559 --> 00:29:23.000
mess for so many days and I
said, yeah, you broke my thumb

429
00:29:23.119 --> 00:29:27.839
and you were broken up that day
I think I think that was before the

430
00:29:29.640 --> 00:29:32.160
Ron Howard incident. I think you
took it on on Ron Howard. Yeah,

431
00:29:32.279 --> 00:29:34.480
probably, Yeah, maybe Ron Howard
was more my size. I mean

432
00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:40.839
that's kind of hey, if I
could take if I could take Rosie Greer

433
00:29:42.599 --> 00:29:45.519
crazy, you were crazy to take
on Rosie Greer. I mean, well,

434
00:29:45.599 --> 00:29:48.920
yeah, little, yeah, even
more so. But anyway, the

435
00:29:48.039 --> 00:29:52.759
story that I wanted to share with
you about Rosie Greer is we're talking we're

436
00:29:52.759 --> 00:29:55.279
talking about about, you know,
my thumb and all this stuff. He

437
00:29:56.119 --> 00:30:02.759
uh, Rosie Greer was with with
Robert Kennedy. He was his personal bodyguard,

438
00:30:03.359 --> 00:30:08.920
uh investador at the Ambassador Hotel in
Los Angeles when when he was assassinated.

439
00:30:10.359 --> 00:30:12.160
And and the and the connection.
I mean, you talk about the

440
00:30:12.279 --> 00:30:18.960
degrees of difference of how closely we're
connected. I was, I'm Inventora,

441
00:30:18.279 --> 00:30:26.799
I'm class president there Inventora, and
I'm working on Kennedy's campaign from a college

442
00:30:26.920 --> 00:30:32.119
level. Right. We realized that, yeah, so so doing some incidental

443
00:30:32.240 --> 00:30:37.400
stuff anyway. But anyway, so
then after he's there Inventora, then ghost

444
00:30:37.559 --> 00:30:41.200
La and they have the California primary, course they win, all this kind

445
00:30:41.240 --> 00:30:47.039
of stuff, and then and then
he's assassinated. And the story, yeah,

446
00:30:47.400 --> 00:30:51.559
and the story to this day was
that Rayford Johnson was the one that

447
00:30:51.680 --> 00:30:55.720
had the gun and uh and Rosie
told me, go, no, that's

448
00:30:55.759 --> 00:30:57.359
not the way it happened. I
said, who had the gun? He

449
00:30:57.440 --> 00:31:02.279
goes, I had the gun.
Rosie Greer was the one who wrestled the

450
00:31:02.359 --> 00:31:07.039
gun away away from Sean Syan and
he put it he put it in his

451
00:31:07.160 --> 00:31:10.240
pocket. Here he is, I
mean, talk about custody of evidence,

452
00:31:10.359 --> 00:31:15.799
right, And why did why did
uh Yer? Yeah, why did he

453
00:31:17.000 --> 00:31:22.279
want? Well? Ray john But
if you if you remember in the sound

454
00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:25.599
bite new sound bite, you keep
hearing the news man, get the gun,

455
00:31:25.720 --> 00:31:27.640
Rayfer, get the gun, get
the gun. So he was identified

456
00:31:29.200 --> 00:31:32.480
and in the sound bite is having
had the gun. But it wasn't him.

457
00:31:32.599 --> 00:31:37.400
It was Rosie had the gun with
him. And then towards the end

458
00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:40.680
of the evening, Rayfer went to
Rosie and said, hey, give me

459
00:31:40.799 --> 00:31:44.119
the gun. And you know,
Rosie didn't, you know, he didn't

460
00:31:44.160 --> 00:31:48.559
want it, was like it wasn't
a big deal for him. But and

461
00:31:48.839 --> 00:31:52.200
he gave him the gun. But
the person that actually had taken the gun

462
00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:56.839
out of Syrian's hands was Rosie Greer
wasn't it wasn't ray for Johnson to make

463
00:31:56.880 --> 00:32:00.599
sure of the business. I mean, and I mean me wants to take

464
00:32:00.680 --> 00:32:04.880
credit for what somebody else did.
And Rosie is that he doesn't really want

465
00:32:04.960 --> 00:32:07.559
credit. Yeah, but you know, and Robert Kenny was shot dead,

466
00:32:08.039 --> 00:32:13.279
right, That's that's just something that
I can never forget, you know,

467
00:32:13.319 --> 00:32:15.440
the ambassador. And it was next
to Carol for like a long time,

468
00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:22.480
the Invessador the assassination never opened again. And it was because I surpassed it

469
00:32:22.519 --> 00:32:29.319
by when I went over to work
at Carol. It was just there forever,

470
00:32:29.559 --> 00:32:32.920
if I'm not to don't think sometime
back yeah, well yeah, and

471
00:32:32.960 --> 00:32:38.079
I remember maybe about a couple of
years after that, I played in a

472
00:32:38.200 --> 00:32:44.160
tennis tournament with and my partner of
all people value to love, this was

473
00:32:44.279 --> 00:32:50.319
Janet Lee. And and and I
loved winning with Janet Lee. Every time

474
00:32:50.400 --> 00:32:53.279
we won, she hugged me up. I mean, I can still feel

475
00:32:53.279 --> 00:32:59.720
her hugs to this day. I'm
sure you can. Yeah, I told

476
00:32:59.759 --> 00:33:08.599
her, I said, hey,
Quinn. But but it was also that

477
00:33:08.799 --> 00:33:14.519
that day we were there, and
and Jamie Lee Curtis came around. I

478
00:33:14.559 --> 00:33:19.359
think Jamie Lee was probably about sixteen
or seventeen at the time. Uh yeah,

479
00:33:19.519 --> 00:33:22.279
she was, uh, she was
she was quite the character. But

480
00:33:22.680 --> 00:33:27.000
but her mom, uh, gently
was just uh, you know, we

481
00:33:27.279 --> 00:33:30.599
did we did good. We we
got we we we got robbed out of

482
00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:34.240
first place, but but we end
up how how did you meet her?

483
00:33:34.599 --> 00:33:38.640
Just it was just playing tennis and
uh we you know, their first celebrity

484
00:33:38.680 --> 00:33:44.240
deal and they they paired us up
and uh and so uh, you know,

485
00:33:44.359 --> 00:33:49.359
we kept winning and she kept hugging
and I kept wanting to win so

486
00:33:52.759 --> 00:33:54.720
so but but but it was good
fun. But you know, the thing

487
00:33:54.880 --> 00:33:59.480
is about you know, our radio
career has been you know, so marked

488
00:33:59.559 --> 00:34:05.200
with just incredible, incredible memories.
And you know, people even today want

489
00:34:05.240 --> 00:34:09.400
to suggest that radio is uh is
not alive and well, and I would,

490
00:34:10.559 --> 00:34:15.360
you know, I argue that point
because radio has been such a source.

491
00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:17.320
I think that what's happened one of
the worst things that are happening to

492
00:34:17.400 --> 00:34:22.000
radio is consolidation. When when you
start having you know, we went val

493
00:34:22.079 --> 00:34:24.719
when you and I were coming out, there'd be one hundred owners per market.

494
00:34:25.039 --> 00:34:30.159
Or there's consultants. I mean,
and I've never met a consultant knew

495
00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:32.440
what he was doing, and no
offense to any consultants. But uh,

496
00:34:32.880 --> 00:34:37.280
bottom line is that radio is like
a family. Look at radio has made

497
00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:42.039
me happy, radio has made me
cry. Yeah, well all those things.

498
00:34:42.639 --> 00:34:47.039
And I met ninety five percent of
old people I've met in radio or

499
00:34:47.159 --> 00:34:51.840
and TV are nice people. There's
you know, there's a five percent that

500
00:34:51.960 --> 00:34:57.840
you know who cares. They're not
they're not on your Christmas card list.

501
00:34:58.440 --> 00:35:05.480
You're you're likable, and uh we're
Latinos and people, I guess we're likable.

502
00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:08.480
Yeah, we're just we're just having
fun. We're not We're not trying

503
00:35:08.519 --> 00:35:12.199
to hurt anybody. I'm not trying. Yeah, look at yeah, and

504
00:35:12.480 --> 00:35:15.079
we just want to pass on,
you know, the legacy of radio and

505
00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:19.679
like back in the days, now
you know, you got a hundred different

506
00:35:19.679 --> 00:35:22.760
owners and what they what they failed
to realize is radio is local. Is

507
00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:29.199
any of your family members in broadcasting? Uh? Now they've been in the

508
00:35:29.280 --> 00:35:32.760
preferring. You know, it's like
my family members, like I got twins,

509
00:35:32.920 --> 00:35:37.000
my kids, and you know what
I can pass out knowledge that I

510
00:35:37.119 --> 00:35:42.079
have that Yeah, I know,
but my kids aren't incident. I mean,

511
00:35:42.119 --> 00:35:45.280
it's like they've been in studios all
their life. I know, I

512
00:35:45.400 --> 00:35:49.679
know, you probably got some old
sound checks with them, you know.

513
00:35:50.039 --> 00:35:53.480
Uh, and I with little I
mean, and they're not sitting in radio.

514
00:35:53.760 --> 00:35:58.559
And when I died, look at
God forbid. Uh my all my

515
00:35:58.719 --> 00:36:01.880
sources, my my people that I
know, guys with me. My dad

516
00:36:01.960 --> 00:36:07.440
was a forklift driver, right he
had He went to kindergartens for two days.

517
00:36:08.079 --> 00:36:10.360
But he was intelligent man. He
would have been dangerous if he would

518
00:36:10.360 --> 00:36:14.079
have had an education. Let me, I went to college. I have

519
00:36:14.320 --> 00:36:17.239
my master's equivalency. And I'll tell
you I got I know people in the

520
00:36:17.320 --> 00:36:22.480
business and nobody wants to you know, like my family, immediate family.

521
00:36:23.960 --> 00:36:29.039
But I've taught. I've taught broadcasting. Look, people like Craig Powers as

522
00:36:29.119 --> 00:36:35.719
a as a person that I taught
broadcasting and h they're successful. So that's

523
00:36:35.760 --> 00:36:43.880
your fault. Craig Powers is your
fault here. And what a great guy.

524
00:36:43.960 --> 00:36:45.159
I mean, yeah, he had
a lot of fun, you know,

525
00:36:45.280 --> 00:36:49.159
working you know, because here it
is I start in country, I

526
00:36:49.320 --> 00:36:53.440
end up in country and working with
him he was the programmer. Yeah,

527
00:36:53.599 --> 00:37:00.239
what incredible radio station. You know
it was ageable, you know, but

528
00:37:00.440 --> 00:37:04.320
but but but but radio has this
cast of cast of characters. And I

529
00:37:04.440 --> 00:37:07.559
still I still believe in it.
Val. I mean even as a little

530
00:37:07.679 --> 00:37:10.119
kid. I remember, you know, I was eight nine years old and

531
00:37:10.199 --> 00:37:15.679
my first transistor radio you could barely
catch the local radio station with and it

532
00:37:15.679 --> 00:37:19.880
would be all fuzzy and everything like
that and a little did I know,

533
00:37:20.360 --> 00:37:22.199
you know, just like you were
saying, twenty years later or so,

534
00:37:22.360 --> 00:37:30.000
you'd be working in radio in a
studio having launched into us. Yeah,

535
00:37:30.559 --> 00:37:32.280
well, especially LA, because you
know, you know, less than one

536
00:37:32.360 --> 00:37:37.119
percent, less than one percent of
anybody that gets in the radio business has

537
00:37:37.159 --> 00:37:39.599
a chance to work. You either
want to work in LA or New York,

538
00:37:39.760 --> 00:37:45.320
right right exactly, you know,
I mean it's interesting, like you

539
00:37:45.360 --> 00:37:46.199
know, looking, we got to
work with it. I got to work

540
00:37:46.239 --> 00:37:52.000
with it, with you, with
that Wolfman, Jack, the Bill down

541
00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:55.199
Steel, Humble, Horror, Huggy
boy, I mean, Charlie Tuna.

542
00:37:55.360 --> 00:37:59.840
It goes on and on and talk
talk a little bit, talk a little

543
00:37:59.880 --> 00:38:04.480
bit about the real Don Steele because
when I was going to broadcasting school,

544
00:38:05.000 --> 00:38:07.079
there were two figures, you know, from the Boss radio days, and

545
00:38:07.119 --> 00:38:12.719
it was the real Don Steal and
Robert W. Morgan, and they inspired

546
00:38:12.840 --> 00:38:16.400
me and uh and the real Don
Steal especially because his level of energy.

547
00:38:16.519 --> 00:38:22.280
I mean he was just absolutely unleashed
and you couldn't you couldn't help but listen

548
00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:25.000
to a show and you know it'd
be afternoon Drive. So at the end

549
00:38:25.039 --> 00:38:29.960
of the day, when you've put
everything and you left everything at the office,

550
00:38:30.400 --> 00:38:32.400
you tune into the real Don Steal
and you get re energized. Right.

551
00:38:34.400 --> 00:38:39.039
You know. I used to listen
to most younger and he was like

552
00:38:39.239 --> 00:38:44.559
you you well, you know that
you told me a couple of things,

553
00:38:44.599 --> 00:38:49.360
like the Drake format before it was
would be and the announcements that if the

554
00:38:49.519 --> 00:38:52.880
if the song ran out ten seconds
later they come in and like nothing second

555
00:38:53.199 --> 00:38:59.760
deal. If you're going to explain
to Drake format it was forward motion and

556
00:39:00.039 --> 00:39:02.960
and you say what you gotta say, get didn't get out? Eight seconds?

557
00:39:06.440 --> 00:39:08.599
Was there? The limit of being
able to talk on the radio was

558
00:39:08.639 --> 00:39:12.679
eight seconds? Well, when working
with Down Steal, Down still us to

559
00:39:12.719 --> 00:39:15.400
follow me. I did I think
that was doing the mid days? Uh

560
00:39:16.599 --> 00:39:22.320
Kara, So he's following me,
you know he does after him drive.

561
00:39:22.159 --> 00:39:29.800
So he told me that he goes, baby, if you can't say it

562
00:39:29.840 --> 00:39:35.000
in three seconds, you have no
business saying it period three seconds? Right,

563
00:39:35.079 --> 00:39:37.360
that's amazing. I didn't realize that
they only gave eight seconds. But

564
00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:40.519
he says, we can't say it
in three seconds. It wasn't worth saying.

565
00:39:42.119 --> 00:39:46.599
You know, baby, you have
to say baby. Yeah. That's

566
00:39:46.639 --> 00:39:52.239
like Humble had Humble hard was baby. Yeah, he's coming broke whatever't you

567
00:39:52.280 --> 00:39:57.559
know? Broke? I means because
they broke broke. And you always talk

568
00:39:57.559 --> 00:40:00.639
about the whole gig sandwiches out of
Philadelphia because you're never to Philly, have

569
00:40:00.800 --> 00:40:06.840
you no Philly? That was what
do Up started. And you know,

570
00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:10.440
well, you know you talk about
Drake Chennault and the energy before that Color

571
00:40:10.599 --> 00:40:16.119
Radio great program director. Uh you
know at the time with Color Radio that

572
00:40:16.440 --> 00:40:22.760
really moved radio along and progressed.
It was Chuck Blore and then Chuck Blore,

573
00:40:23.039 --> 00:40:28.239
you know, about another fifteen years
after that came back and ran Kiss

574
00:40:28.320 --> 00:40:31.000
And that's when I started working at
Kids Radio. You did. Yeah,

575
00:40:31.159 --> 00:40:35.280
he was awesome, the guy and
to me, and this is kind of

576
00:40:35.320 --> 00:40:39.360
a freebee for anybody listening. The
mantra that Chuck would tell us, they

577
00:40:39.480 --> 00:40:43.480
say, look at your job every
time you open up the microphone is to

578
00:40:43.760 --> 00:40:49.199
elicit a positive emotional response. I
mean that will be with me till the

579
00:40:49.280 --> 00:40:52.679
day I die val and and he
was so right, because radio is so

580
00:40:52.960 --> 00:40:58.840
emotional that you have that working in
your favor, that you can make people's

581
00:40:58.960 --> 00:41:02.400
day by the song you play,
by how you introduce it. Uh,

582
00:41:02.840 --> 00:41:07.360
maybe even in some cases the things
you don't say, right right. I've

583
00:41:07.400 --> 00:41:12.000
had people get married because I played
him on a dedication and Carol, you

584
00:41:12.079 --> 00:41:14.880
don't remember, Yeah, but did
they come back and charge you for the

585
00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:20.360
for the demorristion? It's funny.
It's a funny thing. What's his name

586
00:41:20.440 --> 00:41:24.559
of the family three times, Madam
Wick chapter of the world, and I

587
00:41:24.639 --> 00:41:28.039
can't remember his name. I had
a story and I can't remember them.

588
00:41:30.199 --> 00:41:34.320
Frankie goright alright, Yeah, So
we became friends and he'd come in and

589
00:41:34.480 --> 00:41:37.000
sometimes answer my phones and stuff,
and he says he can meet a woman

590
00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:39.280
to save his life. He goes, I go, really goes, you

591
00:41:39.360 --> 00:41:45.800
know, and I'm friendly, doordad. I don't have no woman. I'm

592
00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:49.800
Frankie Dorta so zater On. I
introduced some somebody that used to call me

593
00:41:50.679 --> 00:41:57.079
on the dedication line, right right
right, And he to call you on

594
00:41:57.119 --> 00:42:00.840
the dedication line. They never flirted
with you or anything like that. I

595
00:42:00.960 --> 00:42:05.719
never you know, I was not
a dedication type. But I don't.

596
00:42:06.679 --> 00:42:10.400
I don't go out with the staff
or the people that are calling me.

597
00:42:10.760 --> 00:42:13.960
Well, not more than twice anyway, I know that. Go ahead,

598
00:42:14.239 --> 00:42:20.719
you know anything, you married it
today she's still married to this one girl

599
00:42:21.000 --> 00:42:23.159
and I did the credit or you
know, when the divorce comes, you

600
00:42:23.199 --> 00:42:28.440
know, thank god. Huh.
But I am Frankie darthday and I have

601
00:42:28.599 --> 00:42:31.360
nobody. Yeah, I'm Frankie George
today. Look at me. I mean,

602
00:42:31.880 --> 00:42:37.880
I'm Lt. Valentin and I have
nobody. Good friends in radio.

603
00:42:39.519 --> 00:42:42.599
You know, you've been my friend
for a long time. You know,

604
00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:47.039
first time I made I mean,
I was impressed by you. Oh listen,

605
00:42:47.320 --> 00:42:50.840
now you're too kind. But val
we we've had a lot, we've

606
00:42:50.880 --> 00:42:52.320
had a lot of fun. Here. We got about seven minutes left and

607
00:42:52.360 --> 00:42:58.280
I just wanted to again recount.
You know, after the way radio evolved

608
00:42:58.320 --> 00:43:01.280
in La you had color radio,
Chuck Blore was running that, and then

609
00:43:01.320 --> 00:43:05.800
you get Drake Chenal come in.
And one of the things that you weren't

610
00:43:05.800 --> 00:43:13.599
aware of was Jean Chennault was he
actually built uh turntables in Fresno, and

611
00:43:13.840 --> 00:43:19.000
so when they came when they came
to La, uh he he uh,

612
00:43:19.280 --> 00:43:24.519
and Bill Drake had this compact and
so Drake handled the programming and uh and

613
00:43:24.719 --> 00:43:30.960
Jean handled all the engineering stuff.
And so what the guy did in order

614
00:43:30.079 --> 00:43:34.320
to because they had this energy,
the sense of energy, you know,

615
00:43:34.440 --> 00:43:37.159
kind of like what Don Steele was
saying, you got you gotta stay it

616
00:43:37.239 --> 00:43:38.800
in three seconds, you know or
whatever. You know, you had to

617
00:43:38.880 --> 00:43:44.039
keep things moving. And I told
you the general rule then was eight you

618
00:43:44.079 --> 00:43:47.639
know, the jocks could only have
the microphone open for eight seconds and and

619
00:43:47.719 --> 00:43:52.119
a light would go off in Ron
Jacob's office, who was the program beyond

620
00:43:52.280 --> 00:43:58.880
right and so. But but what
Jean Channal did in order to uh to

621
00:43:59.559 --> 00:44:04.039
exactly surveyed the idea of keeping things
moving. He sped up the turntables.

622
00:44:04.880 --> 00:44:08.039
He sped them up. So when
all the other competitors were playing, you

623
00:44:08.159 --> 00:44:14.480
know, if it was uh,
you know, the Archiese or whatever song

624
00:44:14.519 --> 00:44:20.039
they were playing, it sounded like
a drag versus Don caps j Right.

625
00:44:20.239 --> 00:44:22.039
I didn't know that because you know, when I went and bought Windy by

626
00:44:22.119 --> 00:44:28.679
the Association to do so, I'm
playing that my my record player, you

627
00:44:28.719 --> 00:44:32.519
know, forty five uh, and
it sounds like this isn't what I heard,

628
00:44:32.599 --> 00:44:36.760
you know, down Steel playing later
on down Steal told me later and

629
00:44:36.800 --> 00:44:37.880
you told me this too, and
I did not. I was not aware

630
00:44:37.920 --> 00:44:44.519
of it. You know that forty
five RPMs forty five RPMs forty five rotations

631
00:44:44.559 --> 00:44:45.960
per minute. No, they're playing
in forty six, forty six and a

632
00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:52.159
half. That's why I had that
kick. Yes, and when I bought

633
00:44:52.159 --> 00:44:57.239
that forty five, I mean I
down steal the real Dues. He is

634
00:44:57.320 --> 00:45:01.039
right there, good picture. I
want to exactly. He's had the iconic

635
00:45:01.119 --> 00:45:05.760
Friday afternoon sign off. So I
don't think anybody's ever will ever have a

636
00:45:05.840 --> 00:45:07.599
Friday afternoon sign off like the real
done Steel Right, No, No,

637
00:45:08.320 --> 00:45:15.519
definitely not. Who's that young guy
there? Got Bill? Well, we

638
00:45:15.599 --> 00:45:17.760
go back a long ways. I
mean I didn't realize that we were young

639
00:45:17.840 --> 00:45:20.800
at one time. I mean,
I've been in this business for a long

640
00:45:20.880 --> 00:45:23.719
time, and you know, I'm
very fortunate, Wow, Billy, I'm

641
00:45:23.800 --> 00:45:34.400
very fortunate to doctor Bow he was
a wolf man Jack one time his backstage

642
00:45:34.440 --> 00:45:37.440
and you know, he tells me
we're doing his show. It goes,

643
00:45:37.519 --> 00:45:40.239
well, come here, because uh, have you met both Diddley? I

644
00:45:40.320 --> 00:45:44.760
go right, like both? Did? I mean I met both, did

645
00:45:44.840 --> 00:45:47.119
he someone on the reservation? I
mean, who am I to meet both?

646
00:45:47.320 --> 00:45:52.159
Doesn't both? Here's both Bo Diddley, Oh my god, the greatest

647
00:45:52.239 --> 00:45:54.960
jazz musicians that they ever lived.
I love these people. I love the

648
00:45:55.000 --> 00:45:59.679
Bow and Wolfman. You know they're
good friends. Well, you know in

649
00:45:59.760 --> 00:46:04.880
this this is the thing about our
good fortune and working in radio La radio,

650
00:46:05.599 --> 00:46:08.760
we were. We were at the
at the crossroads of all things culture

651
00:46:08.840 --> 00:46:14.400
and entertainment, you know, whether
it was I mean you, I mean

652
00:46:14.599 --> 00:46:17.559
you know you got uh you know, the four Seasons would come in.

653
00:46:19.000 --> 00:46:21.119
Uh, you know, even when
I was at kDa with both Man.

654
00:46:21.280 --> 00:46:24.880
Jackie was good friends with you know, Bobby Lamb and the group Chicago even

655
00:46:24.960 --> 00:46:28.719
to this day. Uh, you
know, I was the first one.

656
00:46:28.760 --> 00:46:34.719
I remember this song feeling stronger.
Every day I got to exclusively preview of

657
00:46:34.800 --> 00:46:38.519
that song. It was a world
exclusive. Uh you know. It was

658
00:46:38.920 --> 00:46:44.480
the program director Bob Wilson was real
and had great relationship with the group in

659
00:46:44.559 --> 00:46:50.519
Chico. They were in Denver producing
this new album and Bob brought back the

660
00:46:50.599 --> 00:46:52.760
song and I was on the air
and he says, here, you know,

661
00:46:52.920 --> 00:46:55.119
play it, And of course I
kind of blew them away because I,

662
00:46:55.519 --> 00:46:58.840
uh, every once in a while
if there was something, you know,

663
00:46:58.880 --> 00:47:02.679
because I loved I love creating momentum
and a field and you can do

664
00:47:02.880 --> 00:47:07.920
this with music, and if you
could make that work, then what I

665
00:47:07.960 --> 00:47:09.360
would do from time to time.
In fact, wolf Man Jack, I

666
00:47:09.440 --> 00:47:12.559
used to blow them away because oh
my god, he goes. I was

667
00:47:12.599 --> 00:47:14.880
listening song. It was so cool, and then you blow me away.

668
00:47:14.920 --> 00:47:19.679
You played it again? Yeah,
because back in because it was a good

669
00:47:19.679 --> 00:47:22.119
song. It was like, oh
my god, it was some mortal sin

670
00:47:22.159 --> 00:47:24.960
if you decided to play the song
twice, right, You know, we

671
00:47:25.079 --> 00:47:29.679
grew up in an era where also
it's like we're some of the first Latinos

672
00:47:29.719 --> 00:47:32.760
in Los Angeles Frego. But also
back then they didn't really they didn't.

673
00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:37.559
You would never have a woman doing
afternoon drive or morning drive right right exactly.

674
00:47:37.639 --> 00:47:40.119
You couldn't. We couldn't play two
women back to back. We couldn't

675
00:47:40.119 --> 00:47:45.639
play two slow songs back to back. I mean now the rules have kind

676
00:47:45.639 --> 00:47:51.679
of changed. I mean we've adapted. Two more women can do afternoon drive.

677
00:47:52.360 --> 00:47:58.599
Remember Lori Lerner and James Taddy,
before they were they weren't really it

678
00:47:58.760 --> 00:48:01.800
was like newsic goals we're not really
popular, you know, right and now,

679
00:48:01.920 --> 00:48:07.119
and it goes to show you maybe
some of the High State women are

680
00:48:07.239 --> 00:48:12.199
in radio there with newspeople. Connie
Chung was for something like make a million

681
00:48:12.239 --> 00:48:16.719
dollars a year back then writing.
So it's amazing and Latinos have come a

682
00:48:16.800 --> 00:48:20.400
long way, and women have come
a long way and broadcasting, you know,

683
00:48:20.840 --> 00:48:23.880
and we've despite all the things that
you know, the kind of fight

684
00:48:24.000 --> 00:48:28.719
us, you know, but I
gotta, I gotta, I gotta say

685
00:48:28.800 --> 00:48:30.400
this, valum, you know,
because we got about a minute left here,

686
00:48:30.440 --> 00:48:35.880
and and that is that, you
know. I was concerned with consolidation

687
00:48:36.400 --> 00:48:38.880
that we were losing, you know, in these small markets kind of the

688
00:48:39.519 --> 00:48:44.559
minor leagues, the training grounds for
you know, the talent for tomorrow.

689
00:48:44.920 --> 00:48:47.000
And I knew something had to give. And look what Look what is what

690
00:48:47.159 --> 00:48:51.559
it gave. I mean, we
got podcasting. Podcasting is a whole new

691
00:48:51.679 --> 00:48:54.960
genre. You've got You've got more
people ever, you know, compared to

692
00:48:55.000 --> 00:49:00.199
our radio days that do podcasts,
that are doing you know, radio on

693
00:49:00.320 --> 00:49:02.559
the internet, and uh, you
know, God bless them because you know,

694
00:49:02.760 --> 00:49:07.840
you can't you cannot restrain talent.
Talent is out there and it requires

695
00:49:07.920 --> 00:49:12.679
a canvas in which to paint on, and they'll figure out one way.

696
00:49:12.719 --> 00:49:15.039
I mean you and I. You
know, California boys, we saw we

697
00:49:15.119 --> 00:49:21.440
saw plenty of walls of downtown LA
turned into canvases right right right. You

698
00:49:21.480 --> 00:49:23.639
are a living example of the of
what you're doing. Now. You know,

699
00:49:23.719 --> 00:49:28.119
I have no idea to me.
I guess radio people say radios is

700
00:49:28.559 --> 00:49:31.079
forgotten, It's going to be forgotten. I don't believe that. I don't

701
00:49:31.119 --> 00:49:35.079
think so. I Like I told
you, I'm standing in line because I

702
00:49:35.119 --> 00:49:37.840
think all these knucklehead big groups they
are going to want to sell off these

703
00:49:37.960 --> 00:49:42.239
radio stations for five cents on the
dollar. You are going to sit there

704
00:49:42.280 --> 00:49:45.159
and line and just take it up
and just take off with it. And

705
00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:50.320
uh and you know, new birth, give new birth to radio because it

706
00:49:50.679 --> 00:49:53.480
just needs just like it did at
varying times, whether it was you know,

707
00:49:53.679 --> 00:50:00.199
whether it was the likes of you
know, of Drake Chennault. Did

708
00:50:00.239 --> 00:50:02.960
I think a mel Carmazon from the
business world of what what he did with

709
00:50:04.079 --> 00:50:07.679
CBS radio in that Uh, it
just takes it takes somebody with a vision

710
00:50:07.880 --> 00:50:12.559
and a passion to be able to
come in and uh, you know,

711
00:50:12.920 --> 00:50:16.920
Bringe some life into this category.
You know, maybe maybe you're the one

712
00:50:16.960 --> 00:50:22.000
to fix it now. I don't
know. All I know is that all

713
00:50:22.039 --> 00:50:25.039
I know is what I know,
and and like you, I loved radio.

714
00:50:25.480 --> 00:50:30.400
It blessed me, It blessed my
family. I'm blessed to be able

715
00:50:30.440 --> 00:50:34.719
to have this TV show. I
still do a morning radio show. You

716
00:50:34.800 --> 00:50:37.800
know that we deal with, you
know, things like politics and issues of

717
00:50:37.880 --> 00:50:43.440
faith in that which is my passion. But but clearly radio is my passion.

718
00:50:43.559 --> 00:50:45.880
My friends are my passion. And
I cannot thank you enough, Val

719
00:50:46.039 --> 00:50:50.079
for coming on. Thank you.
Go down memory lane with me, buddy.

720
00:50:50.280 --> 00:50:52.360
I'm going to give you the last
thirty seconds. Go ahead. There's

721
00:50:52.400 --> 00:50:55.800
so many, so many stories that
we neglected to talk about. But you

722
00:50:55.880 --> 00:51:01.960
know what, the short time we
had it was an hour. I'm back

723
00:51:02.079 --> 00:51:06.239
quick. We have to produce this. For helping me and they having me

724
00:51:06.320 --> 00:51:08.760
on the show, well, I
thank my producers hera set sir, for

725
00:51:09.639 --> 00:51:14.480
you know, helping me. It's
been funny. I really enjoyed it,

726
00:51:14.519 --> 00:51:17.719
Billy, and I really thank you. Thank your friendship and all the opportunities

727
00:51:17.760 --> 00:51:24.039
that you've given me and been speak
friends. You know, Val Valentine,

728
00:51:24.119 --> 00:51:28.559
my good friend, from my LA
radio days, and I'll tell you this

729
00:51:28.719 --> 00:51:31.719
is something no doubt that we'll have
to have to do it again and maybe

730
00:51:31.800 --> 00:51:36.400
bring some of our other friends to
tell their stories, because there's plenty of

731
00:51:36.440 --> 00:51:42.480
stories to tell about this great business
that we've enjoyed over the years. Again,

732
00:51:43.000 --> 00:51:46.119
my thanks personally to val Valentine for
more information and to be a part

733
00:51:46.320 --> 00:51:51.480
of this incredible movement to return to
God and to save our country. Check

734
00:51:51.519 --> 00:51:53.159
it out at Bill Martina show dot
com. May God bless you and keep

735
00:51:53.239 --> 00:51:57.760
you and make his face shine upon
you. May he'd be gracious unto you

736
00:51:58.559 --> 00:52:00.559
and give you peace. Thank you
so much for being with us. Have

737
00:52:00.559 --> 00:52:01.559
a great day. H