May 19, 2026

The Bill Martinez Show 05 19 26

The Bill Martinez Show 05 19 26
The Bill Martinez Show 05 19 26
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Are you ready, Yeah, Okay, let's do an Ill Martinas

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Live a program about current events.

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Our culture, our values, our politics, and our future.

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And now Bill Martinez, well.

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Good morning America. Great to have you with us. Six

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minutes after the top of the R. Right now, it's

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great to have Rover Norquist from ATR with us. Hey, Rover,

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good morning, How are you?

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Oh, very good, Bell, Good to be with you.

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Well, let's talk. You know, it's amazing when I was

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reading about what you were reporting on here recently, this

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talk in Washington about a temporary gas tax holiday. You're

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saying Congress should go much further, permanently abolished the federal

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gas tax. Like everything that comes out of the government,

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it is the epitome of the disease of more. There's

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just never enough taxes, is there?

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There?

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Reson?

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It started as a one cent per gallon tax back

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in nineteen thirty two. This was Herbert Hoover's brilliant idea,

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a temporary tax, by the way, not to build roads,

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but to deal with the deficit, spend it because they

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didn't have enough money. They wonder Hoover had a massive

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collection of tax increases that he passed and then FDR

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just did more of what Hoover did, So why did

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I don't know why FDR Franklin, Dollan and Roosevelt thought

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continuing Hooper's big spending, big tax, price control policies would

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somehow help the economy because it hadn't Donender Hoover, but

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he did more. The recession lasted ten years. But so

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they since that, it's gone from one cent the federal

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gasoline tax to over eighteen cents. And one of the

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challenges is, and you're quite right, Americans for Taxing formed

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the group I run has suggested, let's not put it

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on pause. Let's kill it the federal gas tax, and

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say to the states, the money that you want to

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spend on roads, you raise. You have a state tax.

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If you want to add to that, you can. No

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one would go as high as eighteen And what happens

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with the eighteen cents is they use it for a

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political I mean corruption. Much of it goes to five cities,

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metros there subways. I'm sorry, I'm driving a car, I

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use gasoline. I'm paying for a metro. A metro should

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pay for metro. I pay for road. He pays for metro.

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What is this but that's the kind of corruption that

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you have. They tell people the gas taxes for roads,

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and they use it for many other things.

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Is this a both sides situation? Grow over where both

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sides are doing it? Because it just seems to be

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that that's the economy of the beltwegh. Everything is quid

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pro quo, and every time there's a payback, government just

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continues to increase in size and in a efficiency.

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Well.

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On the effort to take money from roads which people

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in rural areas need and people in suburbs need, and

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give it instead to blue cities, that tends to be

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something the Democrats thought up and defend. Now, in order

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to pass a highway bill, you need Republican votes also,

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and so there's a challenge because there's so much money there.

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It's quid pro quo. People get money for particular things

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in their district. If it's for your district, there's no

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reason the federal government should have anything.

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To do with it.

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It should be at the state level. If it's for

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the whole country, you go, okay. If we're going to

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build a highway from one end of the end, as

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we did under Eisenhower, all series of highways that's done.

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All they have to do now is repave them from

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time to time. And there's no reason the fifty states

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shouldn't and couldn't be held responsible because they would do

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that for their own states. What tends to lapse is

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the federal spending because there's a law called the Davis

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Bacon at which was designed for very pernicious reasons to

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keep blacks out of the industry. And they said so

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on the floor of Congress. They wanted to raise the

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price to union wages so non union people couldn't get

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jobs in building anything the federal government builds. All highways

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have that law attached to if you get federal money,

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so get the federal money out, and every highway would

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cost ten to fifteen percent less.

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See, this is the stuff. And thank God for ATR

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that you continue to reveal the truth and the inner

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machinations of how we got to thirty nine trillion dollars

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in debt in counting, and why the government is too

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big and why it's so inefficient at every turn. This

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is all being exposed, and it's up to the people

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and how they vote and why they need to be knowledgeable.

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And you can't be this disconnected, laissez fair type of voter.

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This is what God is in the mess to begin with.

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Yes, I mean we if you move things from the

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federal government to the state government, there's a chance that

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people can be held responsible. Right now, if somebody says, oh,

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the roads aren't very good, well that's that's Washington, says mayor,

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says governor. You really need to have accountability at the

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local level, at the state level. And if you send

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your money to Washington, first of all, they keep some.

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Then they decide, well, we're not so much interested in roads.

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Let's have subways. Let's have you know, speed high speed rail.

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Like the tens of billions of dollars that have gotten

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nothing built in California. That's the kind of garbage that

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your gas tax goes to as it goes to Washington. First,

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that should end.

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Well, you know, in speaking California, as you know, I

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was in California for the last couple of weeks, and

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you know, prices anywhere for a gallon of gas Grover,

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you know, probably about six fifty average, but even a

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high of eight dollars and fifty cents and two dollars

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at least two dollars of that is going to the

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state of California. You know, Governor Newsom is getting his

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big and you know the State House is getting their share,

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as you say, and you know, it's just disgusting what

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these people are subjected to. But I got to tell you,

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it's amazing to me. And this is what, you know,

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kind of gives them some sense of confidence. And I

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say them, I'm talking about the officials in the state offices,

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because when you drive the freeways of California, they're as

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busy as ever people are driving. Forget about sixty five.

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It's if you try and drive sixty five, which is

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the speed limit, you're gonna get run over.

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You know, I remember when Gerald Ford tried to make

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everybody drive fifty five. Just annoying and a waste of

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everybody's time. And of course, when they put price controls

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on oil after one of the wars in the Middle East,

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those stayed until Reagan came in. And when Reagan got

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rid of the price controls, which were supposed to keep

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prices down, what happened. Prices fell. Why Because if you

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don't have price controls a cap on what something costs,

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people will invest war to find more oil. Then they

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find bunches of more oil and prices go down. So

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you actually saw prices fall after they repealed the stupid

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price controls that were supposed to keep prices down. Government

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price controls always mess up everything.

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Well, you'd think we'd know enough by now, Grover, but

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they can't help themselves right.

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Well, they like to come up with new excuses to

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have more power in Washington and have more money in

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Washington and more decisions in Washington. And it's not just

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the congressmen and senators, it's the bureaucrats who live in Washington.

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Their pay goes up. They're more important. If I have

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ten people working for me, I can get I can

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justify being paid more than a five. Five people working

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for me in my department doesn't matter. If the extra

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five people are doing nothing. It makes me look like

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I'm more important. I need to pay rate. I've got

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ten people underneath me instead of in the private sector.

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I figured out how to do the same job with

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four people, not five people, so we can invest that

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money other place.

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That's what you get.

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The race for us to figure out how to make

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more wealth and more stuff with fewer people, not more people,

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Nutrition for Patriots, Hey.

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We're back with you, Bill Martinez here with Rover Arkwist,

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President of Americans for Tax Reforms, America's Cream and a

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Center Right expert on taxes. Okay, so you know, awesome proposal.

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How realistic can we make this happen? The federal guest,

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as you stated, started in thirty two, nineteen thirty two.

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It's temporary, like everything government's always temporary. I think income

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tax initially started temporary too, And it's interesting that you

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know one cent was one percent, and something about one

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cent seems so inconsequential, and they were going to go

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after the top one percent when it came to the

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income tax, and of course we know what happened the

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following year. They said, Hey, it's too hard going after

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these people with all the money. Let's just go after

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the everyday americans. They don't have a battalion of attorneys

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we have to deal with, right.

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Yeah, there is a real challenge. People bring in taxes

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promising their temporary promising there for emergency, which hints that

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it's temporary because emergencies aren't supposed to last one hundred years.

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And it'll only be them that pays for it, not you.

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It'll be that. Who's that Them is corporation sometimes, But

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when you go to the grocery store, you pay the

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corporate income tax. Whe if you buy something, when you

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buy a car, you pay the federal governments and the

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state governments and the local governments. Taxes on general motors,

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you pay that. There's nobody else to pay for it.

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There is no mister general motors who can. Oh, and

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mister general motors, here, I'll pay for that. No, doesn't exist.

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Here's the good news. They have to lie to get

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taxes up.

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They know that.

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That's that That lets you know that even they have

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some shame.

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If only a little. How realistic Grover, Yes, exactly about

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that much. How realistic is you know, can this be

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to really put the pressure on Congress to make this

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a reality, because again, you know, it seems like we

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ought to take advantage of this era of common sense

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that we seem to be coming back to.

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Yeah, two things.

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People talk about the increase of the gas tax since

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the war in Iran, and that's been a big number.

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But the bigger number is California pays so much more

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than Tennessee. So if you're in California around, not the problem.

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The California government's your problem. And we need to make

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sure that that, yes, it's gone up because of the conflict,

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and there's less oil coming out of out of the

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Middle East. That ends the day there's an agreement, So

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you can see the end of that. It never ends

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that California is two bucks more per gallon than normal states.

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That and some of the other Blue states that have

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done that as well. I believe we can get read

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of the federal tax on on energy on gasoline because

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we've already built the interstate highway system, which is what

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they the reason they gave for increasing it from about

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two to four to five percent to five cents, and

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that's what they used to pay for that. It went

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up to eight nine cents. The Democrats wanted to do it,

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and a couple of Republicans against Reagan. Reagan didn't want

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to do it at all. They put a nickel morph

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and then it went to nine percent nine cents. But

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we built the highway system at like four or five

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for crime that lad but it's built, it's done, it's built.

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They're not, you know, they're not putting major new highway service.

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We could let local governments repave them and just say

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here's the eighteen and a half cents. It's your you know,

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we're abolishing it. If you want to go face your

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voters and say, well we need to take nine of that,

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maybe we can get away with that. Maybe not, but

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your voters will decide not nobody.

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Well, you make a good point in terms of here

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it is the federal government, all the taxpayers cross country

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say okay, it's a good idea, let's have a freeway system.

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So we all pitch in, participate. But it seems that

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whenever that happens, there's no follow up and accountability to say, Okay,

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here's the plan. We're going to give you this, but

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you're going to maintain it.

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Right, Yeah, we really should back on, and we were

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asked going to be done. We were close the Republican

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head of the committee that does transportation. This is when

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the Republicans took over Gingrich and knew Gingrich and the

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Republicans control of the House and the Senate after nineteen

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ninety four, we were very close to having them decide

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we'll spend every five years. They avenue plan like a

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five year plant like the Soviets used to have. That's

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what we have for transportation. So we take the five

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year and scrish it to three, spend the money and

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then abolish the federal tax and leave it to the states.

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And that was considered possible, and we were close to

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a yes on that because the committee chairs in the House,

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the Republicans limit their committee chairs to only being there

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six years. Now, if your committee chair was planning on

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being there for thirty years, he'd never give up all

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that lovely money to run, Okay, But if he's only

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there for six years and it's not going to be forever,

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he could say, I don't care if it disappears after me.

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That's okay, and that's what we had. We had that agreement,

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and then he changed his mind. He thought he could

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break the Republican limit, the termament on committee chairs. He

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was wrong, he was wrong.

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He was wrong.

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He got tossed out, but he didn't reduce the tax

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on gasoline unfortunately.

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Well Grubber. A couple of weeks ago, we brought up

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the issue of social security, and I think we hit

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a nerve because the people said, what you and Grog

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are talking about is right on, and that is that

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we need to call the question and tell the federal

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government you owe us over two trillion dollars, pay up, Sukka,

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put that money back into the account so social security

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doesn't go bankrupt. Have you given any more thought? Is

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what we can do? Because people are saying we need

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to rally the masses on this issue, not only seniors,

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but would be seniors that are just around the corner

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that are looking at a bankrupt social security system because

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by a large part, the federal government has come in.

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The lock box has broken open, Thank you very much, LBJ.

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And here we are with a bunch of you chits.

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And last time I checked, I don't think we can

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use those at the grocery store. Now.

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The challenge with Social Security is a defined benefit plan,

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what you take out of it is defined. It gets

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raised from timetime, it's defined by law. A defined contribution

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plan is what individual retirement accounts or one case, those

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sorts of the things people sixty percent of the country

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has one of those savings programs, often through their employer,

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and the money is actually invested. When your Social Security

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fight attacks are taken out of your paycheck within weeks,

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it is sent to somebody else. It is not saved

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for you. There is no saving for you. They fdr

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lied when he said that your contributions would come back

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to you. That's exactly what they didn't do. They did

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not have a plan where they take ten percent of

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your income and put it into the stock market generally,

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and then come back and you can say, oh, look

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how it grew in the private sector that sixty percent

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of Americans have for or one case iras, those sorts

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of things, that money increases year after year after year,

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and then when you retire, you not only have the

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income stream from that Catholic get interest on it or

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dividends in stock, but you own the corpus, You own

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all the money that was saved for you, and if

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you get hit by a bus, that goes to your children.

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So what SO security does is it takes out the

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savings part. And when people talk about it that there's

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a wealth gap in America. Some people have more savings

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more wealth than others. People who counted on Social Security

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as if it was a savings plan learned when they

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turn sixty five there is no savings. But will write

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you a check for a fraction of what you could

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have earned every year if those if those savings had

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accumulated and you just paid the interest literally every day.

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Sob security makes everyone in America poorer. Is a poorly

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designed plan a good goal. You want to have people

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have assets, and we want them to have some income

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or assets when they retire, when they stop working for retirement.

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But we've invented we not the government, that invented real

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savings plans, and for a majority of Americans those are there.

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So security is on top of it. But the important

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part of their savings is the four to one K,

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the individual retirement account, the corporate defined contribution pension that

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people have. We need to grow those and that's what

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Trump is doing with Trump Accounts dot gov, where parents

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can put money in for their children. So from zero

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until eighteen years of age, they can put up to

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five thousand dollars away for them, so that when they

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hit eighteen, that's their money and they can keep saving

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it for retirement. They can use it to go school,

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they could use it to start a business. It would

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dramatically make America wealthier. And this is not something that's

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never been done. Chile does this and has a lot

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of savings per worker, even though it's not as rich

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a country as the United States. The British half of

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their social security system is a four to one K

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individual retirement account, and half of it's the pay as

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you go plan that we have going half would be progressed,

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allowing people to have more and more money that they

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could put into their four to one K, and I

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right makes the social security problem less because people are

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solving it another way.

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Imagine they're actually doing it on their own because they're

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free to do So what a novel concept sounds to

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be pretty consistent with our constitution. Grow we're just saying

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we got it there. He's the President of Americans for

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tax Reform, America's pre eminent center right experts at Grover

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and Norquiz grow over.

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The web side.

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I'm good, dip though, how are you?

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Hey? I'm good finding you know my travels, uh, you know,

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I've done everything but Root sixty six. You know, this

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is their one hundredth year anniversary. And boy, I talk

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about history. I'm in Arizona and part of Root sixty

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six goes through Arizona as well, but eight states, and

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what a tradition you know that started back in the twenties,

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over two thousand, almost twenty five hundred miles of pavement

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and history wrapped into this asphalt tapestry. You know, it's

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pretty crazy, the.

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Old America before the interstate highway system.

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Right exactly. But you know, it's it's amazing how how

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it's taken on its own personality. It's it is typical

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of the you know, the organic nature of America. You know,

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all these different cultures all participating and along the route,

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each story. I mean, it's like you're you're going through

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Like I said, it's a tapestry of culture that you

523
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travel through that's pretty pretty exciting.

524
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And you does it have old Does it have lots

525
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of old time diners and that as well hotels? Yeah,

526
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se motels, because I used to do when I lived

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in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. I was doing my PhD. But

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I was teaching once a week a screen running class

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and two lane down in New Orleans. And I had

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just learned to drive at age thirty six, because I'm

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a native New Yorker, you know, one of those one

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of those Fresh Air Fund kids. And I didn't really

533
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like trying to merge on the free Highway, so I

534
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wasn't taking the Interstate. I was taking the old airline highways.

535
00:30:29.799 --> 00:30:30.359
Yeah, exactly.

536
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That Huey Long built back in the thirties. That's written

537
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about in the novel Old the King's Men by Robert Penwarren.

538
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And there were all these old timey diners and motels

539
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all from the nineteen fifties. It was a great slice

540
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of old Americana, right.

541
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And the other thing you love about those old diners,

542
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oh the food. John good food, I mean good, greasy,

543
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you know, home style food. Biscuits, Oh my god, I

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could up on biscuits and biscuits and honey and up

545
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a coffee. I'm gonna say after.

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That, I guess that's what waffle house is going for.

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I get I guess so, but they mess it up

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by trying to make waffles. I'm sorry, you know, forgive me.

549
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But anyway, it's it's been interesting this trip, and particularly

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you know, having gone through California and watching how much

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people are paying there. You know, we had a bit

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of a road trip in Arizona. Was quite refreshing because

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we went from six fifties seven dollars a gallon as

554
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much as eight fifty in California and we crossed the border.

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I told my son, hanging there for you know, how much, guys,

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do we have left? Can we make it to the

557
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Arizona border? And sure enough, as soon as we cross

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the border, two dollars less per gallon of gas.

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California is a great, a great warning to the rest

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of the country of what leftist policies do. They'll take

561
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a place that was a kind of paradise, the California

562
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of the nineteen sixties, and they can turn it into

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hell on Earth. But that that's the problem when when

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you're when you're comfortable, when you feel safe, that's when

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the crazies can worm their way into power, and people say,

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oh yeah, let's vote for another government program. Come on,

567
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don't you want to be nice to those poor people?

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Aren't you a Christian? So yeah, we'll give the government

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more power, We'll tax more people's income, we'll control people's

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behavior a little bit more, we'll cut more slack to

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the weirdos in the malcontents, because what could possibly go wrong?

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I mean, Californias have been paradise on Earth. Ronald Reagan

573
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was governor of that state right now, and.

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Who, by the way, returned money back to the taxpayers. Wow,

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And I don't remember. I don't know if there's been

576
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another time since Ronald Reagan. And I remember getting that

577
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check from Thank you very much, Governor Reagan returning and

578
00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:47.839
it was like, how novel. I gotta imagine, you know,

579
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all the politicians across the country going, what is he thinking?

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Now?

581
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Yeah, well, but the key thing is complacency. And I

582
00:32:58.440 --> 00:33:02.079
live in Texas now our big problem is how bad

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our Republicans are. Our Republicans, especially in the state legislature,

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but also Senator John Cornyan, who's in a primary race

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against the Great Attorney General Ken Paxton. That voting starts

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next week. So if anybody here is listening in Texas

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and you're a registered Republican, get out there and vote

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for Ken Paxton, because John Cornyn is the kind of

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00:33:23.920 --> 00:33:27.759
Republican who gets elected in deep red states. It happens

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00:33:27.759 --> 00:33:32.599
in Oklahoma, it happens in Indiana where the Republicans are

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00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:37.119
perceived to be dominant. People who are just callous opportunists

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with no principles, who want to make money in politics,

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who want power in politics. They've become Republicans and they

594
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run as Republicans. They govern like Democrats. But people are complacent.

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Anti fat is not waving sex toys in front of

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their kids. There are not Haitians grilling cats in the streets,

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so they think it's oh, it's all right. They don't

598
00:33:58.160 --> 00:34:00.480
pay much attention to politics. They just vote for whoever

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the Republican is, and you get Republicans like John Cornyn,

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who wanted amnesty for legal immigrants, wanted to take people's

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guns through red flag laws, wanted to see Trump remove

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from office. Thought the January sixth protesters were traders who

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00:34:16.719 --> 00:34:20.920
deserved to rot in prison for decades. You get people

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like that and they take control of the Republican Party

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00:34:24.039 --> 00:34:28.599
and they paint real Conservatives as extremists, and they do

606
00:34:28.760 --> 00:34:32.679
deals with the Democrats that screw us. This guy, James

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00:34:32.719 --> 00:34:36.039
tall Rico, who is running, who has the Democratic nomination

608
00:34:36.639 --> 00:34:40.320
in Texas, he was created by the Republicans in the

609
00:34:40.360 --> 00:34:45.119
Texas House. They gave him committee chairmanships, they gave him power,

610
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They built him up so that he could then win

611
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the Democratic nomination. And now they're saying, oh, oh, but

612
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so dangerous. You have to only John Cornyn can save us.

613
00:34:54.400 --> 00:34:58.559
John Cornyn created James tall Rico. John Cornyn's Rhinos created

614
00:34:58.639 --> 00:35:01.800
James tala Rico. You get people like John Thune in

615
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the Senate and Lisa Murkowski who are Republicans in name only.

616
00:35:07.079 --> 00:35:10.840
I like to call them closeted Democrats, Democrats on the

617
00:35:10.880 --> 00:35:17.239
down low, you know exactly. But the ordinary people in

618
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a state that's got where life is pretty good, like Texas,

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they don't want to pay attention to inter party intra

620
00:35:23.320 --> 00:35:26.559
party politics. They don't want to worry about, oh, is

621
00:35:26.599 --> 00:35:29.159
this guy a real Republican or not? And the result

622
00:35:29.320 --> 00:35:33.000
is you get things like thousands, hundreds of mosques are

623
00:35:33.000 --> 00:35:36.119
opening all across Texas. And it turns out that Texas

624
00:35:36.119 --> 00:35:40.280
politicians have been helping create Islamic centers. They're building, trying

625
00:35:40.320 --> 00:35:43.079
to build Cheria cities. They try to open a Muslim

626
00:35:43.119 --> 00:35:47.000
only university. They had a water park, a state, state

627
00:35:47.039 --> 00:35:50.320
owned water park or city on water park. They're going

628
00:35:50.360 --> 00:35:53.719
to close it down for a Muslim only day. And

629
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you get Republicans backing this, saying, oh, it's the First Amendment,

630
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it's freedom of religion, it's diverse verity. Our diversity is

631
00:36:02.519 --> 00:36:07.039
our strength. That's the last thing you say as you're

632
00:36:07.079 --> 00:36:10.639
being strangled by a Syrian refugee who's living on welfare.

633
00:36:11.079 --> 00:36:14.760
Of course, and that's what they said in Minneapolis, right, yeah, yeah.

634
00:36:14.960 --> 00:36:19.840
How a few thousand Somali refugees took over an entire state.

635
00:36:20.119 --> 00:36:24.679
And think about it, why would refugees from Somalia be

636
00:36:24.840 --> 00:36:28.199
flown all the way to Minnesota. There are a bunch

637
00:36:28.239 --> 00:36:31.159
of safe Muslim countries where they could go if they're

638
00:36:31.199 --> 00:36:34.800
really refugees. But of course it was a scam. The

639
00:36:34.840 --> 00:36:39.360
Bush administration started bringing them in and they targeted states

640
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like Maine, in Minnesota, Michigan for not having enough diversity,

641
00:36:44.599 --> 00:36:47.960
as if it were like electricity or water or air.

642
00:36:48.199 --> 00:36:51.639
You can't live without diversity. Well, I guess America wasn't

643
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alive before nineteen sixty five when we wrecked the country

644
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by opening immigration to the entire Third World.

645
00:36:58.440 --> 00:37:03.119
John was the Bush administration in the beginning the genesis

646
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of US.

647
00:37:04.400 --> 00:37:09.920
Yeah, the George W. Bush administration put in all these

648
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refugee policies in the name of compassionate conservatism. Remember that, right,

649
00:37:16.519 --> 00:37:19.960
It conserved nothing and it wasn't really compassionate. What it

650
00:37:20.039 --> 00:37:24.599
was was virtue signaling. To yourself, why would he do?

651
00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:26.239
I mean, you know we talk about this is like,

652
00:37:26.280 --> 00:37:28.800
what was he thinking? Because what was it? A knee

653
00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:31.119
jerk reaction because of nine to eleven? I remember he

654
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was overly sympathetic, you know after Oh.

655
00:37:34.360 --> 00:37:37.320
Yeah, Islam is a religion of pe Islam is a

656
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religion of peace, right when it's central tenet is jihad,

657
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which is religious war. That is the basically the sacrament

658
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of Islam is jihad.

659
00:37:47.480 --> 00:37:49.599
Yeah. I think Thomas Jefferson rolled in his grave when

660
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he said that.

661
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Yeah, but it was partly the desperate, desperate fear of

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being labeled a racist or labeled intolerant. I'm thinking of

663
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writing a book on how white guilt is a religion

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that it has come to replace Christianity. It's the new

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guilt about stuff your ancestors did or other people's ancestors did,

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and you present yourself as a white savior. Oh, we're

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going to make sacrifices. We're going to create the Kingdom

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of Heaven on earth. We're going to create social justice.

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And if you don't agree, well then I can demonize you.

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I can paint you in the blackest terms possible. I

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can equate you with the Klo Klux Klan and the Nazis.

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Hey, welcome back Bill Martinez here with doctor John Zamarrit.

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John, I'll tell you one thing we've been talking about

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that's really lighting up people's imaginations is we're saying and

757
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demanding of the government to pay back the two trillion

758
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dollars of money that they've taken out of our social

759
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security fund.

760
00:43:17.960 --> 00:43:21.039
Oh well, I don't know how that's going to get solved.

761
00:43:21.320 --> 00:43:24.920
I mean, I think the social Security system people have

762
00:43:25.000 --> 00:43:27.920
said it was a pyramid scheme, and basically it was set.

763
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The Ponzi scheme totally, you no doubt about it. They

764
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turned it into it. It was never intended that way.

765
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I shouldn't say never, because these schemers, all they think

766
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about is getting the money. And they got the money.

767
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And especially in the mid sixties, LBJ was driving him nuts,

768
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and all the Democrats seeing all that money just lying

769
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there in the treasury and said, hey, we'll open up

770
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the lock box, we'll send in a little iou jet

771
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and happily move along here and here. It has been

772
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going on for decades, and I think it's about time,

773
00:43:58.719 --> 00:44:02.079
especially seniors, when they're threatened that Social Security is bankrupt

774
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and we're going to lose it by anywhere from you know,

775
00:44:04.800 --> 00:44:08.119
twenty thirty to twenty thirty five. It looks like a

776
00:44:08.119 --> 00:44:12.039
hot mess, and there's nobody's talking about any ideas to

777
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save it or to do something you know that would

778
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you know, allow people, in the name of freedom to

779
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make their own retirement decisions.

780
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Yeah. Well, I've been putting squirreling money away in my

781
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four one K just on the assumption that Social Security

782
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is not really going to amount to anything. I think

783
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people basically have to start planning as if it doesn't

784
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really exist.

785
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Yeah, yeah, sadly that's where we are. But unless and

786
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you know, you talked about putting a consortium a group

787
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of people, and you mentioned it's like eighty thousand, So Mollies,

788
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it's all it took to control an entire state of Michigan. Right,

789
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And because the Democrats Minnesota, I'm saying so, and then here,

790
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why can't we bring together a consortium of gray haired

791
00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:02.239
panthers or whatever you want to call them like they

792
00:45:02.320 --> 00:45:05.599
used to call them, and say, look at we can leverage.

793
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I have five seven eight million people and with that

794
00:45:09.159 --> 00:45:11.639
are single purpose and say, look, if you do not

795
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make a promise to restore solid security, you're not getting

796
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my vote. I don't know.

797
00:45:18.280 --> 00:45:21.440
There's so many urgent issues, Bill, I mean, I think

798
00:45:21.480 --> 00:45:24.559
the immigration issue is even more urgent because you were

799
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bringing in people. We're letting people bring in their elderly

800
00:45:28.280 --> 00:45:31.400
parents from China, and then those those parents can get

801
00:45:31.400 --> 00:45:37.280
solis of security if we don't get control over our citizenship.

802
00:45:37.320 --> 00:45:39.280
For instance, the Supreme Court is going to rule on

803
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birthright citizenship. They if they accept the lie that the

804
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fourteenth Amendment was meant to cover birth tourists, pregnant women

805
00:45:49.000 --> 00:45:51.360
who fly in from China in nine months pregnant, give

806
00:45:51.400 --> 00:45:54.760
birth to an up, freshly minted American citizen, and then

807
00:45:54.800 --> 00:45:56.639
they go back. They can raise the kid in China

808
00:45:56.679 --> 00:45:58.159
if they want to, and you can come back here

809
00:45:58.199 --> 00:45:59.119
and run for president.

810
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Right.

811
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So clearly this was not the intent of the authors

812
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of the fourteenth Amendment. But who knows how these judges

813
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are going to rule. But I'm I'm kind of disappointed

814
00:46:11.719 --> 00:46:15.159
with Trump's actions on immigration. He just yesterday was on

815
00:46:15.800 --> 00:46:19.360
television saying that we have to allow half a million

816
00:46:19.480 --> 00:46:24.079
Chinese students to study in America every year because otherwise

817
00:46:24.079 --> 00:46:27.039
it would insult the people of China. Well, first of all,

818
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you know, every Chinese student signs a plant that they

819
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will spy for their government or they're not allowed to

820
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leave the country. So these are half a million spies.

821
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And if we don't let half a million spies in

822
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our universities, it will insult the people of China, and

823
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it would hurt our colleges because colleges that aren't good

824
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enough to survive with just American students have to be

825
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subsidized by bringing in foreigners. And also those a lot

826
00:46:54.119 --> 00:46:56.679
of those people get work visas, and when they graduate,

827
00:46:56.920 --> 00:46:59.559
their student visa turns into a work visa. So we're

828
00:46:59.599 --> 00:47:05.559
just essentially subsidizing our country's invasion and subversion by people

829
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from an enemy government. Remember the Chinese government murders people

830
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and use sells their organs on the black market on

831
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a huge scale.

832
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Right.

833
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And the thing is is that they've made it clear

834
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they want to be the reigning power in much the

835
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same way Iran. You know, Iran in as much says

836
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we want you dad really dead, China in a sense

837
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that says, now you don't have to be really dead,

838
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but you've got to really be prepared to surrender your

839
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sovereignty to you know, to the CCP.

840
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So I I feel like Trump's taking very bad advice.

841
00:47:46.679 --> 00:47:48.880
I don't know where we're going with this Iran war.

842
00:47:48.960 --> 00:47:50.400
I think he needs to wrap it up or we're

843
00:47:50.400 --> 00:47:53.400
gonna lose the midterms. Right, I lose the midterms. We're

844
00:47:53.400 --> 00:47:56.639
worse off than the people in Iran. The Democrats, the

845
00:47:56.679 --> 00:48:02.159
Democratic Party in America is actually more dangerous, more hostile

846
00:48:02.199 --> 00:48:04.639
to everything we believe in than the government of Iran.

847
00:48:05.360 --> 00:48:07.360
We look at what they tried to do in Virginia.

848
00:48:07.599 --> 00:48:11.039
They tried to disenfranchise every Republican in Virginia with this

849
00:48:11.159 --> 00:48:16.400
ridiculous gerrymander map. They did it unconstitutionally. The Virginia Supreme

850
00:48:16.440 --> 00:48:19.800
Court tossed it out. Now they're looking destroying the court.

851
00:48:20.320 --> 00:48:23.119
They're looking forcing all the court members to retire so

852
00:48:23.159 --> 00:48:26.719
they can replace them with political hacks that the Democrats want,

853
00:48:27.239 --> 00:48:30.079
a kind of dictatorship. If you remember what life was

854
00:48:30.119 --> 00:48:33.360
like during the COVID shutdown, that was the dream that

855
00:48:33.639 --> 00:48:37.000
that was the left's dream, where the government can tell

856
00:48:37.039 --> 00:48:39.679
you where you can go, how many of you can gather,

857
00:48:39.800 --> 00:48:42.000
It can shut down your church, it can make you

858
00:48:42.039 --> 00:48:46.559
get a vaccine passport, our own senator. I think the

859
00:48:46.599 --> 00:48:49.679
Senators to Disease Control had on its website a plan

860
00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:54.360
to put unvaccinated Americans in internment camps, and they really

861
00:48:54.400 --> 00:48:57.760
started to do that in Australia. So that's a Western

862
00:48:57.840 --> 00:49:03.079
anglophone country that's supposed has the Magna Carta, has its basis,

863
00:49:03.559 --> 00:49:05.800
and they were going to lock people up for not

864
00:49:05.880 --> 00:49:11.400
getting an untested, dangerous abortion derived vaccine twenty twenty was

865
00:49:11.440 --> 00:49:15.159
the test run for authoritarianism, and it showed us what

866
00:49:15.840 --> 00:49:18.760
our deep state and a lot of our institutions and

867
00:49:18.840 --> 00:49:22.679
some people in our churches really want a surveillance society

868
00:49:23.199 --> 00:49:27.679
where everything's government that top down. Free speeches, censored, freedom

869
00:49:27.719 --> 00:49:33.440
of association, freedom of worship, all of it is rendered

870
00:49:33.519 --> 00:49:36.559
nil by Oh, it's a permanent state of emergency because

871
00:49:36.599 --> 00:49:37.440
of the pandemic.

872
00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:41.119
Exactly. Well, and look at what the whistleblower revealed this

873
00:49:41.199 --> 00:49:44.760
past week. John. I know some people think, you know,

874
00:49:44.800 --> 00:49:46.679
you and I have been talking about this and they think, oh,

875
00:49:46.760 --> 00:49:49.800
you know, Bill and John are just a bunch of conspirators. Well,

876
00:49:49.840 --> 00:49:53.599
we're conspirators until what we're talking about is truthful. And

877
00:49:54.119 --> 00:49:56.039
now what are you going to say? Right right?

878
00:49:56.320 --> 00:50:00.880
Anthony Founci created covid A in a labin, China, and

879
00:50:00.920 --> 00:50:03.320
then it was unleased on the American public and used

880
00:50:03.360 --> 00:50:06.719
as a pretext for mail in balloting and ballot harvesting

881
00:50:06.800 --> 00:50:09.280
so that they could steal the twenty twenty election. That

882
00:50:09.440 --> 00:50:11.880
is what you think that he really thought that far

883
00:50:11.960 --> 00:50:16.039
out or was it something more, you know, I don't know,

884
00:50:16.159 --> 00:50:19.679
immediately diabolical for his own personal gain.

885
00:50:20.320 --> 00:50:21.960
I think that the he.

886
00:50:21.920 --> 00:50:25.039
Did make tens of millions of dollars personally.

887
00:50:24.920 --> 00:50:28.280
Right exactly, But but I you know, I think that

888
00:50:28.360 --> 00:50:32.079
the Democrats, again in the spirit of you know, let's

889
00:50:32.159 --> 00:50:35.400
not let any good crisis go to waste. Saw this

890
00:50:35.519 --> 00:50:38.119
and said, hey, we can maximize this. And they took

891
00:50:38.239 --> 00:50:39.920
full advantage and stole the election.

892
00:50:40.679 --> 00:50:44.639
That's right, that's right, and they'll do it again. They may.

893
00:50:45.079 --> 00:50:47.920
They planned to pack the Supreme Court, they planned to

894
00:50:47.960 --> 00:50:51.840
abolished the Electoral College. They planned to add new frivolous

895
00:50:51.840 --> 00:50:55.599
states like Washington, d c. Make that a state, give

896
00:50:55.599 --> 00:51:00.400
it to senators. The hunger for power on the part

897
00:51:00.519 --> 00:51:05.800
of the Democratic Party is it's palpable. And the clownish,

898
00:51:05.960 --> 00:51:11.239
unseiousness of Republicans in states like Indiana that refuse to redistrict,

899
00:51:11.320 --> 00:51:16.639
refuse to fight back against Democrat gerrymandering. They are the

900
00:51:16.760 --> 00:51:20.199
Washington generals. The thing is, they're not losing to the

901
00:51:20.199 --> 00:51:24.079
globetrotters anymore. The Democrats are now more like the black Panthers.

902
00:51:24.119 --> 00:51:27.280
So it's the Washington generals playing against the black panthers

903
00:51:27.440 --> 00:51:32.559
who have AK forty seven's and marchetes exactly well.

904
00:51:32.599 --> 00:51:36.679
And the thing is is that Republicans are comatos to

905
00:51:36.800 --> 00:51:41.320
the reality that this is a political war. The Democrats

906
00:51:41.360 --> 00:51:45.519
have been fighting this war forever, and as you mentioned,

907
00:51:45.639 --> 00:51:48.199
you know the Republicans, you get people you know that

908
00:51:48.679 --> 00:51:53.079
are Republican in name only, and they're really more you know,

909
00:51:53.159 --> 00:51:56.239
more like Democrats. But the thing is, it's interesting they're

910
00:51:56.280 --> 00:51:59.079
more like Democrats, but those Democrats have left the building

911
00:51:59.519 --> 00:52:02.599
and have gone un bar leb that, you know. Somehow,

912
00:52:02.639 --> 00:52:05.079
it's like, well, it's not as bad because they're kind

913
00:52:05.119 --> 00:52:09.599
of like, they're moderate. They may not necessarily be in

914
00:52:09.760 --> 00:52:12.840
you know, Democrats per se, but they bothe like Democrats,

915
00:52:12.920 --> 00:52:14.920
but the old guard Democrats is what I'm saying.

916
00:52:15.599 --> 00:52:20.639
Yet, so they're they're essentially coasting and leading comfortable, respectable

917
00:52:20.639 --> 00:52:23.880
lives while the country goes down the toilet, and we're

918
00:52:23.920 --> 00:52:26.480
supposed to respect that. I mean people like Mike Pence

919
00:52:26.800 --> 00:52:30.679
who they don't think that the stakes are real. They

920
00:52:30.719 --> 00:52:33.480
don't think the threats to the country are real. If

921
00:52:33.519 --> 00:52:36.400
they did, if they thought America really was at risk,

922
00:52:37.440 --> 00:52:40.440
they'd be acting very differently. They would not be reaching

923
00:52:40.480 --> 00:52:44.639
across the aisle to people who want to eradicate whiteness,

924
00:52:45.039 --> 00:52:49.760
to people who want transgender surgery, for small children, who

925
00:52:49.800 --> 00:52:55.320
want pornographic books in public schools. There's this great organization,

926
00:52:55.559 --> 00:52:58.199
mass Resistance. People need to look look at up mass

927
00:52:58.280 --> 00:53:02.360
resistance dot org and they go to school board meetings

928
00:53:02.400 --> 00:53:04.920
and they read aloud from the books that are intended

929
00:53:05.000 --> 00:53:08.199
for second and third graders, and they stop the meeting

930
00:53:08.199 --> 00:53:11.079
that this is obscene. You're reading a s obscene material.

931
00:53:11.559 --> 00:53:13.760
Why are you doing this to us? Oh, these are

932
00:53:13.800 --> 00:53:16.280
the books you're giving our kids, and you're saying it's

933
00:53:16.320 --> 00:53:19.360
too offensive to be read at a PTA meeting. It's

934
00:53:19.360 --> 00:53:22.199
not too offensive to be taught to little impressionable kids.

935
00:53:22.679 --> 00:53:26.039
When you're dealing with people in the grip of an

936
00:53:26.079 --> 00:53:31.280
ideology that radical, that demonic, you're not playing t ball.

937
00:53:31.559 --> 00:53:34.079
This is for all the marbles. They want your kids,

938
00:53:34.480 --> 00:53:36.639
they want our future. And if you're not going to

939
00:53:36.679 --> 00:53:38.920
take it seriously, get out of politics.

940
00:53:39.239 --> 00:53:44.960
Yeah, amen, minute, left Cia versus Dan. I huh can

941
00:53:45.400 --> 00:53:47.079
they rate at the Office of the Druction.

942
00:53:47.159 --> 00:53:49.800
I heard that's not true. I heard that that's fake news.

943
00:53:50.280 --> 00:53:53.119
Tulsea Gabbert's own spokesman denied that that happened.

944
00:53:53.440 --> 00:53:56.280
Well, it's yeah, I don't know. I think we're still

945
00:53:56.280 --> 00:53:59.000
trying to ferret that out the language.

946
00:53:59.000 --> 00:54:01.239
You know, there's a civil war in the deep state.

947
00:54:01.360 --> 00:54:03.639
We know that there are all these holdovers from the

948
00:54:03.679 --> 00:54:06.960
Democrats and that Trump's people have been trying to purge them.

949
00:54:07.760 --> 00:54:10.159
I think we should trust Telsea Goward. I think she

950
00:54:10.280 --> 00:54:14.039
is a real patriot and she's genuinely on on board

951
00:54:14.039 --> 00:54:18.280
with Trump's agenda. She's genuinely trying to root out the

952
00:54:18.360 --> 00:54:22.039
subversion of a deep state that was given way too

953
00:54:22.119 --> 00:54:26.159
much power by the Patriot Act and then comprehensively politicized

954
00:54:26.199 --> 00:54:29.280
by Obama and turned into a kind of secret police

955
00:54:29.639 --> 00:54:32.519
on behalf of the Democrats. And Trump has had a

956
00:54:32.840 --> 00:54:38.360
very difficult time trying to untangle. It's like Christmas lights,

957
00:54:38.440 --> 00:54:43.360
you know, of the enormity of the conspiracy of what

958
00:54:43.400 --> 00:54:45.719
the Democrats left behind because they thought they were never

959
00:54:45.760 --> 00:54:48.239
going to lose power, because they intended to steal the

960
00:54:48.239 --> 00:54:51.039
twenty twenty four election, and they tried to and it

961
00:54:51.079 --> 00:54:53.840
was just a few white hat hackers who managed to

962
00:54:53.920 --> 00:54:58.360
disable some computer servers in Serbia. Why were our votes

963
00:54:58.400 --> 00:55:00.800
being counted by serb in computers?

964
00:55:00.960 --> 00:55:05.440
I don't know, But anyway, well, we'll leave it there,

965
00:55:05.519 --> 00:55:07.719
and of course we'll be keeping an eye on it

966
00:55:08.000 --> 00:55:11.480
as the story continues to unfold. Doctor John Samerica, author

967
00:55:11.519 --> 00:55:14.199
of No Second Amendment, No First, The Politically Incorrect Guide

968
00:55:14.199 --> 00:55:17.239
to Catholicism, along with many other books. Doctor John is

969
00:55:17.239 --> 00:55:18.639
always a pleasure to have you with us.

970
00:55:18.679 --> 00:55:20.639
Take care, Thanks bye.

971
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972
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984
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Eight hundred six nine nine oh three five eight, eight

988
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hundred six nine nine oh three five eight eight hundred

989
00:56:13.559 --> 00:56:16.840
six nine nine oh three five eight. That's eight hundred

990
00:56:17.000 --> 00:56:19.480
six nine nine zero three fifty eight.

991
00:56:26.039 --> 00:56:31.519
Getting America back on track Bill Martinez Live, Well.

992
00:56:31.400 --> 00:56:33.800
Good Morning America. For more information on the show, you

993
00:56:33.800 --> 00:56:36.599
can check it out Bill Martinez Live dot com. Hey, Katie,

994
00:56:36.639 --> 00:56:39.760
Asher's back with us. The author of the Book of Heaven.

995
00:56:39.840 --> 00:56:42.320
The Book of Heaven, the story of hope for the outcast,

996
00:56:42.400 --> 00:56:45.400
the broken, and those who lost Spain. Katie. Good to

997
00:56:45.440 --> 00:56:46.159
have you back with us.

998
00:56:46.159 --> 00:56:48.559
How are I'm great? Thank you for having me.

999
00:56:48.800 --> 00:56:51.199
Well, looking forward to talking to you about the book

1000
00:56:51.280 --> 00:56:55.119
as we spent some time to talk about your new book. Congratulations.

1001
00:56:55.440 --> 00:56:56.039
Oh, thank you.

1002
00:56:56.239 --> 00:56:58.760
It actually came out in twenty twenty one, but the

1003
00:56:58.840 --> 00:57:02.280
audiobook is new. That's a really big deal because so

1004
00:57:02.400 --> 00:57:04.280
many people listen to audiobooks now.

1005
00:57:04.360 --> 00:57:07.519
So right, exactly, so, tell us about the Book of Happening.

1006
00:57:07.880 --> 00:57:08.880
What was your motivation.

1007
00:57:09.559 --> 00:57:14.000
Well, I was completely not motivated to write it and desperately.

1008
00:57:13.480 --> 00:57:16.400
Tried not to. That's the actual story behind us.

1009
00:57:16.800 --> 00:57:18.400
Is this a COVID book?

1010
00:57:18.480 --> 00:57:22.199
Huh, it is a COVID book exactly.

1011
00:57:24.039 --> 00:57:28.039
So what happened was my son, So, my son was

1012
00:57:28.039 --> 00:57:32.000
neurologically injured by vaccines. And it's not it's not the

1013
00:57:32.039 --> 00:57:34.320
pretty you know, Oh, it was a little this or

1014
00:57:34.320 --> 00:57:34.800
a little that.

1015
00:57:34.880 --> 00:57:36.480
It's the worst of the worst.

1016
00:57:36.840 --> 00:57:37.440
Oh my god.

1017
00:57:37.760 --> 00:57:41.599
It's the fecal smearing, it's the eloping, it's the nakedness,

1018
00:57:41.800 --> 00:57:45.360
it's the self injury, it's the screaming it's the not sleeping,

1019
00:57:45.519 --> 00:57:52.760
it's the just complete isolation trauma. So many near death experiences,

1020
00:57:52.960 --> 00:57:53.760
and that was life.

1021
00:57:54.360 --> 00:57:57.679
It is how how old was your son? How son?

1022
00:57:58.559 --> 00:58:01.760
Now he's twenty nine when he is first injured? It happened,

1023
00:58:02.239 --> 00:58:04.760
The first injury happened at eight months. It got progressively

1024
00:58:04.840 --> 00:58:09.719
worse by the next set of vaccines. So I stopped

1025
00:58:09.719 --> 00:58:11.599
after that, I mean, but it was too late.

1026
00:58:11.920 --> 00:58:15.880
Right, So I'm sorry you said he wasn't eight months

1027
00:58:15.880 --> 00:58:18.159
because he's twenty nine now. So how how old was

1028
00:58:18.199 --> 00:58:20.079
he when he was done?

1029
00:58:21.000 --> 00:58:25.519
So he was is the link still here? It kind

1030
00:58:25.519 --> 00:58:28.159
of went in and out. I can't.

1031
00:58:28.199 --> 00:58:30.800
You're not moving moving okay.

1032
00:58:30.440 --> 00:58:32.840
Oh there you go, there you go, Okay, you're back right, okay.

1033
00:58:34.360 --> 00:58:38.159
So Houston was eight months when he was first injured.

1034
00:58:38.880 --> 00:58:40.519
Oh it is twenty nine.

1035
00:58:40.400 --> 00:58:43.320
Now, okay, all right, nine years old now, all right?

1036
00:58:43.519 --> 00:58:47.400
So when eight months? Okay, when he was injured? What happened?

1037
00:58:48.880 --> 00:58:51.480
So it was after the DTP hips shot. This was

1038
00:58:51.599 --> 00:58:54.760
nineteen ninety seven. This is before it's even the a

1039
00:58:54.920 --> 00:59:03.679
cellular DTaP. This is actually this specific vaccine that Letterly

1040
00:59:03.760 --> 00:59:09.599
Laboratories was received, Vaccine Immunity four with the nineteen eighty

1041
00:59:09.679 --> 00:59:13.199
six vaccine injury low. Most people don't know that there

1042
00:59:13.199 --> 00:59:15.360
were so many injuries, particularly with.

1043
00:59:15.400 --> 00:59:17.559
The DTP, that.

1044
00:59:18.960 --> 00:59:23.000
There were only two I'm sorry, three vaccine manufacturers of

1045
00:59:23.079 --> 00:59:26.039
childhood vaccines left in the United States, and they each

1046
00:59:26.159 --> 00:59:29.719
only produced one. At the time of them Congress giving

1047
00:59:29.760 --> 00:59:37.440
them immunity, they were facing lawsuits two hundred times.

1048
00:59:37.119 --> 00:59:41.079
Their profits WHOA, and Congress gave them immunity.

1049
00:59:42.239 --> 00:59:44.639
And the reason that you can include it's very obvious

1050
00:59:44.719 --> 00:59:49.199
they were trying to protect profit instead of children. And

1051
00:59:49.239 --> 00:59:51.760
they set up this vaccine Injury Court, and then the

1052
00:59:51.840 --> 00:59:55.119
vaccine Injury Court immediately started getting all of these cases

1053
00:59:55.639 --> 01:00:01.519
of vaccine injury from the DTP, and they immediately said

1054
01:00:02.960 --> 01:00:05.840
they identified, you know, basically this subset of all these

1055
01:00:05.920 --> 01:00:09.159
you know, conditions that they call autism. They said, well,

1056
01:00:09.199 --> 01:00:11.199
autism's not going to be allowed to be one of

1057
01:00:11.239 --> 01:00:15.079
the injuries that will reimburse for that will recognize.

1058
01:00:15.719 --> 01:00:18.000
Oh wow wow, Okay.

1059
01:00:18.119 --> 01:00:22.840
So the only they found this one family to be

1060
01:00:23.239 --> 01:00:27.000
a truly injured by vaccines. They had set up all

1061
01:00:27.000 --> 01:00:30.440
these test cases and they took one family because that

1062
01:00:30.519 --> 01:00:36.159
family was the father worked for one of the the

1063
01:00:36.199 --> 01:00:41.480
doctors giving testimony and they received twenty million dollars.

1064
01:00:41.480 --> 01:00:42.760
It's the Hannah Paulling case.

1065
01:00:43.079 --> 01:00:46.519
Twenty million dollars plus another five hundred thousand dollars every year.

1066
01:00:46.960 --> 01:00:49.519
They gave them that money, almost like as a payoff,

1067
01:00:49.760 --> 01:00:54.480
and they refused to validate anyone else's injury. It is

1068
01:00:54.519 --> 01:00:58.920
one of the biggest frauds that has ever occurred in

1069
01:00:59.039 --> 01:01:03.840
American policy judicial because there's not you don't even get

1070
01:01:03.880 --> 01:01:07.039
due process. They took away the Fourteenth Amendment from us,

1071
01:01:07.119 --> 01:01:11.199
which I don't know how any Congress can take away

1072
01:01:11.320 --> 01:01:13.880
our constitutional rights, but they tried to do that.

1073
01:01:14.440 --> 01:01:16.239
How many families were affected by this.

1074
01:01:16.239 --> 01:01:19.400
Katie, It's hundreds of thousands of families, and it is

1075
01:01:19.840 --> 01:01:24.440
catastrophic neurological injury. And so I'm very honest in the

1076
01:01:24.440 --> 01:01:29.360
book about what that looks like, and also my life

1077
01:01:29.400 --> 01:01:31.800
before that, because you know, we all have we come

1078
01:01:31.840 --> 01:01:33.119
to our beliefs.

1079
01:01:33.119 --> 01:01:35.599
Through our what we've experienced, of course.

1080
01:01:35.719 --> 01:01:38.880
So that's what I share, is how I my beliefs

1081
01:01:38.920 --> 01:01:41.519
when I was a child, and how those were affected

1082
01:01:41.519 --> 01:01:44.920
by what I experienced, and then my son's severe trauma,

1083
01:01:45.280 --> 01:01:49.400
and then living with that severe trauma, trauma for decades.

1084
01:01:50.079 --> 01:01:51.760
The point where we finally have.

1085
01:01:53.599 --> 01:01:57.400
I was given this one miraculous moment, and this is

1086
01:01:57.440 --> 01:02:02.119
what happened. I was doing my yoga certification training.

1087
01:02:02.199 --> 01:02:02.800
At that moment.

1088
01:02:02.880 --> 01:02:05.559
I was like, I was teaching one of my three jobs.

1089
01:02:05.880 --> 01:02:10.320
I was a single mom, five kids, no help. One

1090
01:02:10.320 --> 01:02:12.039
of my three jobs was working at a gym. And

1091
01:02:12.079 --> 01:02:14.480
they said, you need to go be certified to teach

1092
01:02:14.559 --> 01:02:16.239
yoga because we need a yoga instructor.

1093
01:02:16.440 --> 01:02:19.119
So I'm getting my yoga certification and I'm like.

1094
01:02:19.159 --> 01:02:23.199
Whatever, okay, got anything else?

1095
01:02:23.639 --> 01:02:27.440
Yeah, And they made us do like we were supposed

1096
01:02:27.440 --> 01:02:30.599
to give our intentions, and I'm like, this is so stupid, and.

1097
01:02:30.599 --> 01:02:32.280
So I gave my very vague intention.

1098
01:02:32.360 --> 01:02:35.400
And I also recognize by that time that people don't

1099
01:02:35.400 --> 01:02:36.639
want to hear your sad story.

1100
01:02:36.920 --> 01:02:38.039
They really don't.

1101
01:02:38.320 --> 01:02:40.480
So I was like, be brief, don't give any detail,

1102
01:02:41.360 --> 01:02:43.880
and so I said it, and then, without being able

1103
01:02:43.920 --> 01:02:46.000
to stop myself, the truth came out of my mouth.

1104
01:02:46.679 --> 01:02:48.760
And what I said was, oh, and I would like

1105
01:02:48.800 --> 01:02:52.440
bad things to stop happening. And they actually had the

1106
01:02:52.480 --> 01:02:54.760
audacity to challenge me and.

1107
01:02:57.400 --> 01:02:59.480
So why would you say that? And I said no, no, no,

1108
01:02:59.519 --> 01:02:59.800
I know.

1109
01:03:00.480 --> 01:03:03.079
They said, good things have just as much chance of

1110
01:03:03.119 --> 01:03:05.519
happening is bad. And I said, no, no, no, I

1111
01:03:05.559 --> 01:03:09.559
know all about belief. You believe, you've experienced, and that's

1112
01:03:09.599 --> 01:03:10.519
what I've experienced.

1113
01:03:10.519 --> 01:03:11.840
Why would I believe anything else?

1114
01:03:13.119 --> 01:03:16.599
And they really were just insistent that i'd be open

1115
01:03:16.679 --> 01:03:20.599
to hope. And so I remember struggling to get the

1116
01:03:20.639 --> 01:03:23.880
word expect out of my mouth, and I quickly substituted

1117
01:03:23.880 --> 01:03:24.559
the word hope.

1118
01:03:25.079 --> 01:03:28.440
But even that was weak. That was like on a Saturday.

1119
01:03:28.960 --> 01:03:31.920
That Wednesday, I came home from working one of my

1120
01:03:32.000 --> 01:03:35.199
three jobs. I laid down on the couch utterly exhausted,

1121
01:03:35.280 --> 01:03:40.159
my body basically vibrating because I was so fatigued. Right

1122
01:03:40.480 --> 01:03:43.400
and my son Houston, came down and sat at my feet,

1123
01:03:43.840 --> 01:03:46.280
completely still. And what people need to understand is that's

1124
01:03:46.320 --> 01:03:47.519
not normal for autism.

1125
01:03:48.360 --> 01:03:48.800
Autism.

1126
01:03:48.840 --> 01:03:53.239
They're constantly making loud noises, jumping up and down.

1127
01:03:53.320 --> 01:03:55.119
Rocking back and forth, flapping.

1128
01:03:54.719 --> 01:03:57.920
Their hands, stemming on the same Disney phrases.

1129
01:03:58.440 --> 01:03:59.239
That was normal.

1130
01:03:59.400 --> 01:04:00.840
This was not Yea.

1131
01:04:02.440 --> 01:04:05.679
Then my son reached over very intentionally and tugged at

1132
01:04:05.679 --> 01:04:10.199
the blanket, and I was obvious to get my attention,

1133
01:04:10.320 --> 01:04:13.039
which he had never done anything like that before, and

1134
01:04:13.159 --> 01:04:16.199
I opened my eyes. He was looking directly into my eyes,

1135
01:04:16.239 --> 01:04:18.679
which he had also stopped doing when he was an infant,

1136
01:04:19.360 --> 01:04:23.639
and he said, Mama, I love you. And what people

1137
01:04:23.679 --> 01:04:25.559
need to understand is that was the first time my

1138
01:04:25.639 --> 01:04:27.840
son had said my name or said I love.

1139
01:04:27.760 --> 01:04:29.920
You, and he was seventeen years old.

1140
01:04:32.199 --> 01:04:34.760
And in that moment, I decided I needed to hope,

1141
01:04:35.000 --> 01:04:37.920
I needed to be open to a miracle. And that

1142
01:04:38.000 --> 01:04:42.639
miracle came five years later when we learned about spelling,

1143
01:04:42.800 --> 01:04:45.719
which is basically coaching their motors so they can begin

1144
01:04:45.760 --> 01:04:49.280
to point reliably to letters to spell out what's actually

1145
01:04:49.480 --> 01:04:52.840
going on inside them. And what we found out was

1146
01:04:53.440 --> 01:04:55.960
every single thing the experts had told us was wrong.

1147
01:04:56.400 --> 01:04:59.199
It was false, it was not true. He was brilliant,

1148
01:04:59.480 --> 01:05:00.960
he had unders shoid everything.

1149
01:05:01.400 --> 01:05:03.880
And what he had was he couldn't feel his body,

1150
01:05:04.239 --> 01:05:07.039
and so he couldn't operate his body, and that was

1151
01:05:07.320 --> 01:05:12.679
logical injury, but that neurological injury had prevented normal neural

1152
01:05:12.840 --> 01:05:16.559
development and had left him with these sensory system that

1153
01:05:16.679 --> 01:05:18.760
was taking in way more than the rest of us.

1154
01:05:19.280 --> 01:05:23.400
So he could hear everyone's thoughts, feel everyone's feelings, see

1155
01:05:23.440 --> 01:05:26.079
the math that's going on all around us, see the

1156
01:05:26.239 --> 01:05:27.599
energy in everything.

1157
01:05:27.960 --> 01:05:31.880
Basically, he can actually see time.

1158
01:05:31.960 --> 01:05:34.239
He said, the angels open windows in time, and he

1159
01:05:34.280 --> 01:05:35.280
can see through time.

1160
01:05:35.719 --> 01:05:39.559
It's absolutely extraordinary. But what it is, it's the ability

1161
01:05:39.559 --> 01:05:41.719
to see beyond the veil. That's what it is.

1162
01:05:42.920 --> 01:05:46.800
Because he's operating in his spirit, his spiritual body, his soul,

1163
01:05:47.159 --> 01:05:50.119
so he's operating in the spiritual realm.

1164
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Here seventeen years six seventeen years and you think, you know,

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I got a kid here who's day image And little

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did you know? Really what what blessing but he given?

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01:11:06.960 --> 01:11:07.079
Was?

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You know? Sight right? Yeah?

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01:11:11.199 --> 01:11:13.520
And what and for what godly purpose?

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01:11:13.840 --> 01:11:16.960
For what godly purpose is that God told him? Christ

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01:11:17.039 --> 01:11:19.359
told him that you are to be my herald. You

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01:11:19.399 --> 01:11:20.840
are to proclaim the.

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01:11:20.760 --> 01:11:21.520
Love of Christ.

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01:11:21.840 --> 01:11:24.640
Wow, it is old to make everyone know the love

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01:11:24.640 --> 01:11:28.479
of Christ. He said, I want, more than any anything

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for everyone to be a friend of Jesus. And I

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01:11:31.000 --> 01:11:34.720
am most surely a friend of Jesus. And for someone

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01:11:34.760 --> 01:11:37.960
to say that who's had everything taken from them, who

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01:11:38.039 --> 01:11:41.399
had who's been had every injustice happened to him, that

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01:11:41.520 --> 01:11:47.079
is an extraordinary amount of capacity, not just faith, but

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01:11:47.159 --> 01:11:50.279
confidence in the goodness and love of God. And he

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has that because he's seen it exactly.

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Yeah.

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And what he described what was so extraordinary is him

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describing parts of the Bible that he's describing like an eyewitness,

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but he's not quoting it. It's not like, oh, I'm

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quoting you know this passage. No, he's actually describing it

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01:12:10.119 --> 01:12:14.199
in detail. And I suddenly realized, wait a second.

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That's that's this scripture. Did you see that? And so

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that was incredible.

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But then the other part that is so transformative is

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what it did to me and my brokenness. And it

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transformed my brokenness and my doubt, which, by the way,

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I want everyone to know. When Houston first began communicating,

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one of the very first things he said to me

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was all your thoughts are rotten.

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That's a very difficult thing to hear. You also have

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to know that I it's true. It's because I was.

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I totally doubted God and he told me, he said,

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doubt is rotten.

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That's what it is. It literally rots away our faith.

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And our faith is more precious than gold.

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Right.

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That is what connects us to the abundant provisions and

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faithfulness of God is our faith. Faith is the current

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of heaven, and doubt is the destructive, corrosive force against

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01:13:20.920 --> 01:13:24.640
what is actually the access to receive all of God's

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01:13:24.680 --> 01:13:26.159
mercies that he has for us.

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Wow, what a miracle. I mean, like all of a

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sudden switches flipped at seventeen.

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After all seventeen, I got that one moment, oh a

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moment another five years before we found out about the

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letter boards, and people ask me, well, did he do anything?

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01:13:47.439 --> 01:13:51.720
I said, no, nothing else. It was I had to believe, yes.

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01:13:52.479 --> 01:13:55.479
And that is where people don't realize is the miracle happens.

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The miracle happens when we are surrounded by no reason

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01:13:59.840 --> 01:14:03.119
to believe except the faithfulness of God, and we believe

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01:14:03.319 --> 01:14:08.039
in spite of our circumstances. That's where you transform the world.

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You see, This is you know, like Augustine says, and

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I love this quote. Some say He didn't really say it,

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but I believe he did, so it's just me. But anyway,

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and that is that first of all, faith is a

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01:14:18.840 --> 01:14:22.199
gift of God. God gives you faith, right, and faith

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01:14:22.319 --> 01:14:26.159
leads to believing, then believing to understanding.

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And the way that we The thing about the promises

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01:14:32.239 --> 01:14:36.479
of God is they're extraordinary. Right. He told he literally

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01:14:36.520 --> 01:14:40.079
commanded the fig tree to die. Right.

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01:14:40.680 --> 01:14:42.920
He said, you could move a mountain with the faith

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01:14:42.960 --> 01:14:46.680
of a mustard seed. Like, these are extraordinary claims. And

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01:14:46.720 --> 01:14:48.880
he said to the man, and this is my favorite,

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01:14:48.920 --> 01:14:51.319
this is the one the verse Houston always writes when

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he signs a book. All things are possible for the

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01:14:54.319 --> 01:14:57.960
one who believes, right, And it is in belief that

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01:14:58.000 --> 01:15:02.359
we have this transformative power to witness and perceive and

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01:15:02.399 --> 01:15:07.199
partake in the miracles of God. And that those words

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01:15:07.199 --> 01:15:10.560
of Christ that Houston likes to quote were to a

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01:15:10.760 --> 01:15:17.560
father whose son was basically just like Houston, comptely unreachable.

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01:15:18.119 --> 01:15:22.119
Wow. Wow, yeah, this is uh. And this is the

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amazing thing is often in the dialogue that Jesus had

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01:15:25.800 --> 01:15:28.000
with people is you know, do you believe?

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01:15:28.720 --> 01:15:29.079
Yes?

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Do you believe I can heal you?

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01:15:31.039 --> 01:15:31.399
Yes?

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01:15:31.479 --> 01:15:34.640
And uh, and it is your belief that saved you, right.

1343
01:15:35.079 --> 01:15:37.840
And the other thing on this that has always been,

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01:15:40.000 --> 01:15:43.199
you know, a challenge for me is when Jesus, as

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01:15:43.239 --> 01:15:46.359
he was leaving the apostles, he said, look at these

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01:15:46.520 --> 01:15:49.039
great things, these miraculous things that you see me. Do

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01:15:49.119 --> 01:15:52.039
You're even going to do greater things because I'm going

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01:15:52.119 --> 01:15:54.960
to be sitting next to the Father. You know, he's

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01:15:55.000 --> 01:15:58.239
our advocate. He is the one cheering us on. And

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01:15:58.439 --> 01:15:59.880
I am challenged by that.

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01:16:00.079 --> 01:16:04.640
Frankly, Katie, well you shouldn't be, because where that statement

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01:16:04.680 --> 01:16:08.960
comes from is that we receive the power of God

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01:16:09.560 --> 01:16:11.520
when we believe the power of God.

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01:16:11.960 --> 01:16:12.159
Right.

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01:16:12.800 --> 01:16:17.479
And so for example, you mentioned you know, like you

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01:16:17.520 --> 01:16:19.800
know the faith that your faith healed you and all

1357
01:16:19.840 --> 01:16:22.119
of that, well, like for example, whenever the woman with

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01:16:22.159 --> 01:16:25.239
the issue of blood touched them, of God, you know,

1359
01:16:25.279 --> 01:16:30.560
the hem of Christ, he said. In the King James version,

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01:16:30.840 --> 01:16:32.760
it says who you know?

1361
01:16:32.800 --> 01:16:34.600
Who is that? And they're like, are you crazy?

1362
01:16:34.840 --> 01:16:41.479
Like everybody, and he said, no, I felt virtue flow

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01:16:41.560 --> 01:16:44.159
out of me. And that's really because in some other

1364
01:16:44.159 --> 01:16:47.279
translations that will say power, power, right, yes, but in

1365
01:16:47.359 --> 01:16:49.479
the King James it says virtue. Now I want you

1366
01:16:49.600 --> 01:16:52.960
to think about that. What is in Christ the virtue

1367
01:16:52.960 --> 01:16:57.279
of God, that means the holiness of God. The holiness

1368
01:16:57.319 --> 01:17:00.960
of God makes you blameless. So if you are blameless

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01:17:01.000 --> 01:17:04.560
and faultless and have no blemish there's no there's no

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01:17:04.600 --> 01:17:06.079
sickness that could stay on you.

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01:17:06.640 --> 01:17:07.000
Right.

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But what released his virtue was her faith. Her belief

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01:17:13.760 --> 01:17:18.840
is what releases his holiness and his power and his virtue.

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01:17:18.960 --> 01:17:21.399
And that is it is literally the currency.

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01:17:21.960 --> 01:17:26.760
And you know, and it says, you know that Abraham

1376
01:17:26.840 --> 01:17:30.359
believed and it was accounted to him as righteousness. Faith

1377
01:17:30.880 --> 01:17:36.000
is how believing God is how he attributes righteousness to us.

1378
01:17:36.079 --> 01:17:37.840
And if you look back at the Garden of Eden,

1379
01:17:38.439 --> 01:17:42.279
it was doubting God. It was doubting God's goodness. And

1380
01:17:42.319 --> 01:17:45.119
so of course the antithesis of that is going to

1381
01:17:45.119 --> 01:17:46.760
be believing God's goodness.

1382
01:17:47.039 --> 01:17:53.600
Right, Yeah, And and coming you know, from being underneath

1383
01:17:54.520 --> 01:17:59.960
that covering, and you know in a sense that that's submissive,

1384
01:18:00.159 --> 01:18:03.920
protective covering of God when we, you know, venture out,

1385
01:18:04.000 --> 01:18:06.760
which is what Adam and Eve did. They ventured outside

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01:18:06.800 --> 01:18:09.560
of that and we've been paying the price ever since.

1387
01:18:10.079 --> 01:18:12.720
And but but God is saying, look at even from

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01:18:12.720 --> 01:18:15.840
that moment, on he's been begging, I say, begging if

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01:18:15.880 --> 01:18:20.920
God could beg but he's just you know, that's right,

1390
01:18:21.119 --> 01:18:25.319
imploring that his creation come back to be in covenant,

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01:18:25.640 --> 01:18:30.199
to be under the protection of and it and these

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01:18:30.199 --> 01:18:30.960
things are set.

1393
01:18:31.119 --> 01:18:31.279
You know.

1394
01:18:31.399 --> 01:18:33.439
It's like I've been saying on the show, and this

1395
01:18:33.520 --> 01:18:35.399
is what was God inspired. It wasn't me. I'm not

1396
01:18:35.439 --> 01:18:39.079
that brilliant. But you know, I've often used the law

1397
01:18:39.159 --> 01:18:42.640
gravity is that you know, the law gravity is there.

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01:18:42.680 --> 01:18:44.359
And I mean if you if you doubt there's God,

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01:18:44.479 --> 01:18:47.880
just think about the law gravity. It is ever present

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01:18:48.359 --> 01:18:52.079
and and if you violate it, then you realize the

1401
01:18:52.119 --> 01:18:56.760
consult right well, And the thing is is that in

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01:18:56.840 --> 01:19:00.159
God's economy and God's structure of things, it's like the

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01:19:00.239 --> 01:19:04.159
law gravity is that if you follow the laws that

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01:19:04.239 --> 01:19:06.680
He's already established that are set in motion. You know, somebody,

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01:19:07.319 --> 01:19:09.479
I think I heard one pastor said that, you know,

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01:19:10.359 --> 01:19:15.159
God removes his his grace from us. I don't think

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01:19:15.199 --> 01:19:17.199
and I didn't see that bothered me. I told my son,

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01:19:17.239 --> 01:19:19.560
I go, that bothered me because it's not that God

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01:19:20.079 --> 01:19:23.399
steps away from us. We step away from God. We

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01:19:23.479 --> 01:19:28.119
come out from under being submissive and being covered by him,

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01:19:28.399 --> 01:19:30.680
and we go and get pummeled, and then we want

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01:19:30.720 --> 01:19:33.119
to say, well, God, you know, for some reason, you know,

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01:19:33.159 --> 01:19:36.800
God decided not to uh you know, you know, not

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01:19:36.880 --> 01:19:39.359
to continue with his favor on me. But his favor

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01:19:39.439 --> 01:19:42.119
is always there because he's the same yesterday, today and forever.

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01:19:42.319 --> 01:19:45.399
He's unchanging. Right, it's us we're the ones that step

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01:19:45.439 --> 01:19:47.239
out right that is correct.

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01:19:47.279 --> 01:19:50.680
And what we have to realize is so what he God.

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01:19:51.760 --> 01:19:54.800
Houston explains it so well. He said that it's like

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01:19:56.439 --> 01:20:00.079
the exhaust from a car. But when you reject the

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01:20:00.119 --> 01:20:05.960
mercies of God, it's like you're literally rejecting God. You

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01:20:06.159 --> 01:20:10.640
literally and he's God is a gentleman. He's literally letting

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01:20:10.680 --> 01:20:12.520
you have exactly what you've chosen.

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01:20:12.960 --> 01:20:13.119
Right.

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01:20:13.640 --> 01:20:16.039
He's not removing his.

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01:20:16.520 --> 01:20:19.439
Favor in the fact that he loves us and always will.

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01:20:19.880 --> 01:20:25.479
He's allowing you to experience the consequences of rejecting him.

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01:20:25.319 --> 01:20:27.840
Right, because the thing is that happens, you know, the

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01:20:27.880 --> 01:20:30.439
Bible also says that he who knows their God will

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01:20:30.600 --> 01:20:33.479
do mighty exploits. The knowing God is like what you're saying,

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01:20:33.760 --> 01:20:37.560
it's because of experience. It's how you experience God. So

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01:20:37.640 --> 01:20:42.359
when you get outside of his covering. You experience what

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01:20:42.399 --> 01:20:44.880
it is to be without God. And now you have

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01:20:44.960 --> 01:20:47.640
that contrast, you have that differential here it is I mean,

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01:20:47.680 --> 01:20:50.880
it's black or white, it's nothing in between. We want

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01:20:50.880 --> 01:20:53.279
to somehow because this is the lie of the devil.

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01:20:53.560 --> 01:20:54.920
You know, did God really say?

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01:20:55.239 --> 01:20:55.399
You know?

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01:20:55.439 --> 01:20:56.840
Has God in a grade on the curve?

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01:20:57.239 --> 01:20:57.319
No?

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01:20:57.800 --> 01:21:01.319
God is definitive, it is said. And so when you

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respond to God in his holiness, then you get the

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holy you get the blessings of holiness. And because He

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01:21:08.560 --> 01:21:11.199
loves us so much, he gives us. We're free will agents.

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01:21:11.479 --> 01:21:13.800
You can choose not to have that, and then you

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01:21:13.880 --> 01:21:15.720
realize what it is to be without God.

1447
01:21:16.239 --> 01:21:18.319
Well, and if you go back to John fifteen where

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01:21:18.359 --> 01:21:21.159
he talks about abiding in Christ and that Christ is

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01:21:21.199 --> 01:21:25.079
the vine, He's the source, and it's all in him,

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01:21:25.279 --> 01:21:26.920
and that when we try to be good on our

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01:21:26.960 --> 01:21:30.760
own or good without Him, that we can never produce fruit.

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01:21:31.279 --> 01:21:33.439
You're never like, the fruit we're going to produce is

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01:21:33.439 --> 01:21:35.319
not going to be the fruit of the spirit.

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01:21:35.399 --> 01:21:37.199
It's going to be the fruit of the flesh.

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01:21:37.800 --> 01:21:41.680
And it's the abiding in Him that keeps us producing

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01:21:42.000 --> 01:21:46.800
His fruit. And when we try to remove ourselves we're lost.

1457
01:21:48.640 --> 01:21:50.760
Well, Katie, we got to wrap things up here. This

1458
01:21:50.800 --> 01:21:53.039
has just been terrific. Thank you so much. You bless me,

1459
01:21:53.119 --> 01:21:56.479
Thank you, We bless our audience as well. Now, when

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01:21:56.840 --> 01:21:59.880
Houston now is twenty nine and you say that he

1461
01:22:00.159 --> 01:22:03.800
you called it the spell board, the spelling board or something.

1462
01:22:04.239 --> 01:22:05.920
It's just the alphabet.

1463
01:22:06.479 --> 01:22:08.800
And this is our little mini one, but it's literally

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01:22:08.920 --> 01:22:12.560
the alphabet, and so he'll literally point to one letter

1465
01:22:12.640 --> 01:22:14.560
and spell out what he wants to say.

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01:22:15.039 --> 01:22:17.079
And to this day and to this day, that's how

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01:22:17.079 --> 01:22:17.880
he communicates.

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01:22:18.079 --> 01:22:19.880
That is how he communicates. That's right.

1469
01:22:20.479 --> 01:22:25.399
Wow, we are still working on speech, but it's the

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01:22:25.399 --> 01:22:27.960
motor planning what people don't understand. I went into a

1471
01:22:27.960 --> 01:22:31.279
lot of research to try to help people understand what

1472
01:22:31.319 --> 01:22:35.479
this neurological injury did to their body, to help people

1473
01:22:35.560 --> 01:22:39.479
understand as well as to understand what are they experiencing

1474
01:22:39.520 --> 01:22:43.000
that's different than what we're experiencing. And so I do

1475
01:22:43.079 --> 01:22:45.479
a really good job of explaining both of those and

1476
01:22:45.520 --> 01:22:51.279
how those affect them both physically, emotionally and spiritually. So

1477
01:22:52.439 --> 01:22:58.000
but that basically speech people don't understand this. They think

1478
01:22:58.039 --> 01:23:00.960
it's like, oh, you speak if you like, You just

1479
01:23:01.079 --> 01:23:04.920
think and then speak. Speech is extraordinarily complex. It's one

1480
01:23:04.960 --> 01:23:08.279
hundred percent motor. It requires seven different body systems working

1481
01:23:08.319 --> 01:23:12.119
together and over one hundred different muscles, all coordinated in

1482
01:23:12.199 --> 01:23:16.439
perfect time with the exact amount of force. If you

1483
01:23:16.520 --> 01:23:20.119
have a motor injury and a motor planning injury, guess

1484
01:23:20.199 --> 01:23:21.119
what doesn't happen.

1485
01:23:21.439 --> 01:23:25.439
That's to work on speech.

1486
01:23:26.000 --> 01:23:29.439
And we have some beautiful episodes of him being able

1487
01:23:29.520 --> 01:23:33.239
to articulate, but it's still extremely challenging for him, and

1488
01:23:33.359 --> 01:23:38.079
spelling is just a much more easy way for him

1489
01:23:38.119 --> 01:23:40.840
to get out what he wants to say, right exactly.

1490
01:23:41.199 --> 01:23:41.479
Wow.

1491
01:23:42.000 --> 01:23:44.359
Yeah, the kids that text today have nothing on him.

1492
01:23:44.399 --> 01:23:50.560
I bet if I might say that. Hi, Katie Ashure,

1493
01:23:50.720 --> 01:23:52.359
thank you so much for being with us. Katie is

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01:23:52.399 --> 01:23:54.600
the author of the book of Having a Story of

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01:23:54.600 --> 01:23:57.399
Hope for the outcasts, the broken, and those who lost faith.

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01:23:58.239 --> 01:24:02.439
Extraordinary book and I must read and the audio now

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available in audio right, Yes.

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We are thrilled. And my daughter actually performs. She's a

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01:24:07.600 --> 01:24:11.359
professional narrator and an opera singer. So it's beautiful, I promise,

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01:24:11.439 --> 01:24:13.920
And there's music in it, and people who have listened

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01:24:13.920 --> 01:24:17.640
to it said this was a performance. So I definitely

1502
01:24:17.680 --> 01:24:21.359
think you'll enjoy the audiobook, but the physical book is

1503
01:24:21.399 --> 01:24:24.439
wonderful for another reason, and that is all of the

1504
01:24:24.439 --> 01:24:30.399
research I did because I meticulously footnoted every single page

1505
01:24:30.399 --> 01:24:31.079
with the research.

1506
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So you can go and find this stuff for yourself.

1507
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Well, Katie Asher, thank you so much for being with us.

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Take care, God bless.

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Thank you you too, Bye bye.

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Hey, good morning, welcome back Bill Martinez here. Great to

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have you with us. And also from Focus on the Family,

1574
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Emily Washburn joins us. Now, Emily, how are you doing

1575
01:28:20.600 --> 01:28:21.039
doing well?

1576
01:28:21.079 --> 01:28:22.039
Thanks for having me.

1577
01:28:22.239 --> 01:28:25.399
Hey, thanks for coming on the show. Got lots to

1578
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catch up on. Let's see here we're going to be

1579
01:28:28.680 --> 01:28:32.800
talking about the inappropriate content that is flooding kids TV shows.

1580
01:28:33.119 --> 01:28:35.279
You know, but our parents are aware. I think that's

1581
01:28:35.319 --> 01:28:38.279
the question, because when you hear about this, Emily, you're thinking,

1582
01:28:38.520 --> 01:28:41.319
you know, our parents, you know, on top of all

1583
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this stuff, in light of you know, you know, both

1584
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families in many cases at work and and just I

1585
01:28:48.239 --> 01:28:50.439
think praying and hoping their kids are making the right

1586
01:28:50.479 --> 01:28:56.319
decisions because the content that is pervading their lives is

1587
01:28:56.359 --> 01:28:59.239
at every turn, whether it's on their cell phone, their TV,

1588
01:29:00.319 --> 01:29:01.039
or their peers.

1589
01:29:01.119 --> 01:29:01.319
Right.

1590
01:29:03.079 --> 01:29:07.000
Yeah, absolutely, there's a lot of pitfalls out there, and

1591
01:29:07.079 --> 01:29:09.920
parents need to be aware of what their kids are watching.

1592
01:29:10.000 --> 01:29:12.079
And there's some tips and tricks that we can give

1593
01:29:12.119 --> 01:29:14.960
them to help them be aware and to help them

1594
01:29:15.000 --> 01:29:15.840
make the right choices.

1595
01:29:16.439 --> 01:29:18.600
You know, some parents are saying today because more and

1596
01:29:18.640 --> 01:29:21.560
more what's happening, Emily is that, you know, even the

1597
01:29:21.600 --> 01:29:24.800
courts are saying, you know, which is kind of interesting

1598
01:29:25.479 --> 01:29:28.720
because for a while there, you know, going back to

1599
01:29:28.920 --> 01:29:33.439
what some politicians have said, including the former first spouse

1600
01:29:33.479 --> 01:29:36.680
of a president, that it takes a village. They seem

1601
01:29:36.760 --> 01:29:40.079
to want to neuter the power of parents, but even

1602
01:29:40.119 --> 01:29:43.800
the courts are starting to say, it's your responsibility what

1603
01:29:43.840 --> 01:29:44.920
your kids are doing out.

1604
01:29:44.800 --> 01:29:50.479
There, right, Yeah, absolutely, And that is actually what Congress

1605
01:29:50.520 --> 01:29:54.119
said in nineteen ninety six with the Telecommunications Act. They

1606
01:29:54.159 --> 01:30:00.560
said that TV has such a uniquely pervasive influence over

1607
01:30:00.640 --> 01:30:04.439
American children that parents have the right to know what

1608
01:30:04.680 --> 01:30:08.720
is in their children's television shows. They have the right

1609
01:30:08.760 --> 01:30:11.600
to know what is coming on TV next, and the

1610
01:30:11.760 --> 01:30:14.039
right to then be able to shut it off. So

1611
01:30:14.079 --> 01:30:18.760
that is why we have TV age ratings and right now,

1612
01:30:18.880 --> 01:30:22.560
the Federal Communications Commission is trying to make sure that

1613
01:30:22.760 --> 01:30:26.279
age ratings are still useful to parents, because if they

1614
01:30:26.319 --> 01:30:29.359
aren't useful, if they aren't still doing their job, it's

1615
01:30:29.399 --> 01:30:31.520
actually violating a congressional law.

1616
01:30:32.439 --> 01:30:34.560
Kind of amazing, I think about it. You're going back

1617
01:30:34.600 --> 01:30:37.840
in the nineties and they passed this law. Right, Okay,

1618
01:30:37.960 --> 01:30:43.600
that's for television. What happened in the classroom? Where was

1619
01:30:43.640 --> 01:30:47.840
the breakdown? Why didn't that translate into the classroom where

1620
01:30:47.920 --> 01:30:50.640
kids are being taught things that parents are not aware

1621
01:30:50.760 --> 01:30:52.880
and they don't have the ability to turn it off.

1622
01:30:53.159 --> 01:30:55.239
Does that make sense or am I overboard here?

1623
01:30:55.800 --> 01:30:55.880
No?

1624
01:30:56.000 --> 01:30:58.800
That's a great point, and I think there's a lot

1625
01:30:58.840 --> 01:31:01.079
of different breakdowns there happened. First of all, you have

1626
01:31:01.119 --> 01:31:06.800
the Department of Education that's working totally independently of parents, right.

1627
01:31:06.840 --> 01:31:09.520
And then you have ideological capture. Right.

1628
01:31:09.560 --> 01:31:10.079
You have.

1629
01:31:11.479 --> 01:31:16.359
Teachers that are going to these higher education institutions that

1630
01:31:16.439 --> 01:31:20.560
are being taught that it is their job as part

1631
01:31:20.600 --> 01:31:25.760
of the village to educate children into to indoctrinate children

1632
01:31:25.760 --> 01:31:30.479
into this idealdology, and that if they don't, they're actually

1633
01:31:31.399 --> 01:31:34.600
engaging in some kind of moral failure, and that it

1634
01:31:34.800 --> 01:31:37.680
is part of their job to do that by any

1635
01:31:37.720 --> 01:31:41.399
means necessary, including hiding it from parents and so that

1636
01:31:43.720 --> 01:31:46.880
you know that things have changed since the nineties, and

1637
01:31:46.960 --> 01:31:51.279
the law hasn't changed, but the creep has happened for sure.

1638
01:31:51.880 --> 01:31:54.399
Well, the law hasn't changed, But I mean, are we

1639
01:31:54.520 --> 01:31:58.520
so stupid that everything needs to be you know, dotted

1640
01:31:58.600 --> 01:32:02.840
and crossed like that act in the nineties, like that

1641
01:32:02.880 --> 01:32:07.960
didn't pertain to the classroom or to social media. Now today, I.

1642
01:32:07.880 --> 01:32:12.399
Think there are several laws that pertain to the classroom.

1643
01:32:12.439 --> 01:32:15.439
But I don't think that these the people that are

1644
01:32:15.520 --> 01:32:22.399
interested in changing indoctrinating kids, are not interested particularly in

1645
01:32:22.520 --> 01:32:26.640
following the laws all the time. Or perhaps a better

1646
01:32:26.640 --> 01:32:28.880
way of saying it is that they don't always feel

1647
01:32:28.920 --> 01:32:32.960
that the laws are in the best interests of the child.

1648
01:32:33.000 --> 01:32:35.880
We would obviously disagree with that. We believe that parents

1649
01:32:35.960 --> 01:32:39.119
have the best interest of the child at heart, but

1650
01:32:39.159 --> 01:32:43.079
they clearly disagree and have for a long time.

1651
01:32:43.640 --> 01:32:45.399
Well it's interesting, you know, you talk about, and that's

1652
01:32:45.399 --> 01:32:49.439
a good point, the best interests of the heart, but

1653
01:32:50.319 --> 01:32:54.600
look at what their policies have done and how they've

1654
01:32:54.720 --> 01:32:59.520
damaged children. You know, I would think that you know,

1655
01:32:59.600 --> 01:33:04.199
given given the option of harming children and not harming children.

1656
01:33:04.800 --> 01:33:07.640
What happened to the idea that you would, you know,

1657
01:33:07.760 --> 01:33:10.199
yield to that which is safe.

1658
01:33:11.560 --> 01:33:14.760
I think there's two very different Again, we're talking about

1659
01:33:14.760 --> 01:33:18.159
ideological capture from the top down, right, So we have

1660
01:33:18.279 --> 01:33:23.159
two very different ideologic ideologies at play. So we have

1661
01:33:23.199 --> 01:33:26.479
two very different ideas of what safety is. We have

1662
01:33:26.520 --> 01:33:29.479
two very idea different ideas of what harm is. We

1663
01:33:29.520 --> 01:33:34.439
have two very different ideas of what thriving is, what

1664
01:33:34.600 --> 01:33:38.640
flourishing is, and those two different ideas are playing out.

1665
01:33:38.720 --> 01:33:42.199
But what we really need to emphasize is transparency. And

1666
01:33:42.279 --> 01:33:46.920
so that's what the FCC, the Federal Communication Commission, is

1667
01:33:46.960 --> 01:33:49.960
trying to figure out what television shows right now as

1668
01:33:49.960 --> 01:33:52.319
parents have complained that they aren't getting that level of

1669
01:33:52.359 --> 01:33:56.520
parent transparency with TV, and I think that we should

1670
01:33:56.720 --> 01:33:59.960
encourage that in any capacity that we can. We've encouraged

1671
01:34:00.239 --> 01:34:02.880
in the true classroom that they need to be transparent,

1672
01:34:03.279 --> 01:34:05.760
and now we're encouraging that in television shows. You need

1673
01:34:05.800 --> 01:34:08.319
to be transparent. And so if they need to change

1674
01:34:08.319 --> 01:34:11.800
the TV age ratings to make it more transparent, then

1675
01:34:11.840 --> 01:34:12.640
they need to do that.

1676
01:34:13.960 --> 01:34:15.920
And you know, you bring up such a great point here,

1677
01:34:15.960 --> 01:34:19.159
and I guess you know the way I'm looking at

1678
01:34:19.159 --> 01:34:22.840
it is that you're opening up Pandora's box. Yes, we're

1679
01:34:22.840 --> 01:34:27.039
looking at TV. But like we said earlier, this misinformation

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and this ideocracy so to speak, that is invading the

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minds of our children is yes, TV, but when you

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consider how much TV kids watch today, it is minor

1683
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compared to their exposure that they get from social media

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01:34:45.159 --> 01:34:49.760
and even by teachers that are more interested in indoctrinating

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than educating. And I say that in a broad purposely,

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01:34:52.800 --> 01:34:55.920
in a broad brushed sort of way, because that seems

1687
01:34:55.920 --> 01:34:58.199
to be the case. Are there exceptions? Are there still

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some teachers that have a hard and are doing no

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01:35:00.880 --> 01:35:03.359
harm and are you know, looking after the best interest?

1690
01:35:03.720 --> 01:35:08.439
Certainly there are, and I apologize to them, and you know,

1691
01:35:08.560 --> 01:35:10.680
and I say, if the shoe doesn't fit, don't put

1692
01:35:10.720 --> 01:35:13.880
it on. Okay, it doesn't belong to you. Let it

1693
01:35:13.960 --> 01:35:17.359
belong to those that the shoe fits that are doing

1694
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this kind of damage to our kids. And so when

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you open up the box, yes, the FCC is leading

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01:35:22.199 --> 01:35:25.119
the way and they may think, okay, our only purview

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01:35:25.439 --> 01:35:29.359
is is anything that has to do with media, with

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01:35:29.439 --> 01:35:33.560
television but still, you know, social media still remains kind

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of a wild frontierer. And meanwhile, while we're waiting to

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get this all adjudicated, we've got a generation of kids

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that are being damaged, Emily, don't you think absolutely?

1702
01:35:44.680 --> 01:35:46.600
And there are lots of different things that are happening

1703
01:35:46.600 --> 01:35:49.399
on lots of different fronts, right, So this is one

1704
01:35:49.720 --> 01:35:52.880
of the latest things that have happened. Right, But we've

1705
01:35:52.920 --> 01:35:56.479
gotten some good rulings in terms of social media. We've

1706
01:35:56.479 --> 01:35:59.119
gotten a ruling that social media is addictive. That was

1707
01:35:59.119 --> 01:36:02.760
a huge, right, But you make a great point. This

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01:36:02.840 --> 01:36:08.920
is an ideologic. This is an ideology that is very pervasive.

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01:36:09.039 --> 01:36:12.520
But it's an ideology in that it influences every part

1710
01:36:12.560 --> 01:36:15.600
of your worldview. So if it gets to your kids early,

1711
01:36:15.960 --> 01:36:19.760
and it gets to your kids in entertainment, it has

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01:36:19.800 --> 01:36:22.520
the potential to influence the way that they think.

1713
01:36:22.359 --> 01:36:23.520
For the rest of their lives.

1714
01:36:24.079 --> 01:36:27.279
Right, it's shaping their brain from a very early age.

1715
01:36:27.319 --> 01:36:29.520
And the reason that I think it's important we talk

1716
01:36:29.560 --> 01:36:34.000
about TV and entertainment so that includes social media, is

1717
01:36:34.039 --> 01:36:41.159
because age ratings in particular don't require that they inform

1718
01:36:41.319 --> 01:36:44.960
parents if a TV show includes gender ideology.

1719
01:36:44.359 --> 01:36:46.520
For instance, at all.

1720
01:36:46.720 --> 01:36:51.840
So it can include that for children younger than seven

1721
01:36:51.920 --> 01:36:55.000
years old, right, and they don't have to inform parents.

1722
01:36:55.039 --> 01:36:59.279
So if you get that young enough, right, it can

1723
01:37:00.279 --> 01:37:03.399
change literally the way your brain is shaped if you've

1724
01:37:03.439 --> 01:37:07.600
introduce that idea young enough. So that is why we're

1725
01:37:07.640 --> 01:37:13.359
talking about TV, that pervasive influence, right, that entertainment.

1726
01:37:15.359 --> 01:37:16.079
Aspect.

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01:37:16.479 --> 01:37:21.000
So, yes, the ideological you want to make sure that

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01:37:21.079 --> 01:37:26.520
you prevent your kids from being introduced to that ideology

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01:37:26.560 --> 01:37:27.439
at a young age.

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01:37:27.560 --> 01:37:31.920
In particular where we are right now, again, the onus

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01:37:32.000 --> 01:37:35.119
is on parents in a big way. I mean, with

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01:37:35.159 --> 01:37:36.720
all that they have to deal with, and they're going

1733
01:37:37.039 --> 01:37:39.399
I am juggling so many balls, and now I have

1734
01:37:39.479 --> 01:37:42.319
to look at this. Well, probably of all the things

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01:37:42.560 --> 01:37:45.560
that you could juggle, this is probably as important as

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01:37:45.720 --> 01:37:48.920
everything else because it has to do with the safety

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01:37:48.920 --> 01:37:51.640
of your child fundamentally, does it not? Based on what

1738
01:37:51.680 --> 01:37:52.520
you're just saying.

1739
01:37:53.119 --> 01:37:55.960
Yeah, absolutely, And you do need to be aware of this.

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01:37:56.039 --> 01:37:57.880
There are a couple of different things that you can do.

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01:37:58.520 --> 01:38:01.279
One thing you can do is use resources like plugged in.

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This is I was gonna say what a great resource

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focus on the Family provides in that service, and I'll

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tell you what ladies, gentlemen, if you do not have

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need to not pass go collect to hunderdbox, you go

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straight to plugged in dot com and make sure that

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you get that bookmark, because they are an excellent resource.

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Go ahead, yes, exactly. They can tell you, you know

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01:38:26.960 --> 01:38:32.680
what TV shows, video games, movies, books have in them

1751
01:38:32.880 --> 01:38:36.920
different content concerns, but also the overarching vision of the

1752
01:38:36.960 --> 01:38:40.239
show of the piece of content that you're concerned about.

1753
01:38:40.279 --> 01:38:42.640
They also will teach you how to put parental controls

1754
01:38:42.680 --> 01:38:45.520
on all different kinds of platforms. They have tips for

1755
01:38:45.600 --> 01:38:47.880
raising your kids in the digital age, so please take

1756
01:38:47.920 --> 01:38:51.800
advantage of them. But you know, I just recently wrote

1757
01:38:51.800 --> 01:38:54.920
a piece in conjunction with plugged in about this very issue,

1758
01:38:54.960 --> 01:38:58.640
and they are very upfront that you know, they really

1759
01:38:58.680 --> 01:39:02.439
do the groundwork. But a lot of times, these big

1760
01:39:02.920 --> 01:39:07.800
TV shows will introduce a transgender character or a gay

1761
01:39:07.920 --> 01:39:13.319
character for one episode, multiple seasons in and it's impossible

1762
01:39:14.079 --> 01:39:19.680
for us to catch every single instance of LGBT ideology

1763
01:39:20.119 --> 01:39:23.960
in every single show. So one way you can get

1764
01:39:24.000 --> 01:39:26.760
around that is introduce your kids to shows that you

1765
01:39:26.920 --> 01:39:30.760
loved as a child, that is one advantage of streaming.

1766
01:39:30.920 --> 01:39:34.319
That's a great bonding experience. You can also introduce them

1767
01:39:34.359 --> 01:39:37.199
to some of the great Christian content that we've been

1768
01:39:37.239 --> 01:39:40.159
getting right So there are different ways that you can

1769
01:39:40.199 --> 01:39:46.159
get around that. But it's a really hard media environment

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01:39:46.239 --> 01:39:48.239
right now for sure, so be aware of it.

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01:39:48.279 --> 01:39:48.680
Please.

1772
01:39:49.399 --> 01:39:52.800
The media is grooming your kids, starting with their brains,

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01:39:52.880 --> 01:39:55.319
ladies and gentlemen, and this needs to come with a

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01:39:55.399 --> 01:39:59.319
serious warning. She's focused on the family's issue. Analyst at

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Emily wash Burne has been our guest. Emily working the

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I'm good?

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Hey Bill? Hey, interesting times is we were talking about

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just a moment referring to uh. The divide is quite clear.

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It's like God is putting before us the question, Okay,

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who are you going to serve?

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That makes me think of Bob Dylan's old song, Yes

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You're gonna have to serve somebody.

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Right.

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It could be money, it can be sex, it could

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be pleasure, it could be comfort, but it's probably gonna

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end up being the devil if it's not the Lord.

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And it has all roads that don't aim towards Jesus,

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even if they have the label of constructive and productive

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and pleasurable and nice and good, If they leave the

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Creator out of the equation, then humanity is left empty

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and we end up in an eternity without him. And

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that's evident today on Earth when you see so much

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division in marriages, division and families, division between generations, division

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politically and ideologically. You know, there there are wars and

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rumors of ours. You know, that's only going to get

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worse until Jesus comes back by the same token with

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mentioning all those negatives. I am not a pessimist or

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a negative guy. God does great work when things are

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hard and messed up, you know.

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Exactly he does. If there wasn't anything to hope for,

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then pessimists would rule, right. But God gave us hope

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and even warned us in the Book of Matthew on

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the seventh chapter, Jeff, as you recall, I think it's

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verses thirteen and fourteen where Jesus is warning about the

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narrow path that like you're talking about, there is a

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narrow path of righteousness. And it's interesting because that just

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shows you how pervasive the evil and the unrighteous paths

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that are out there, just like you said it, you know,

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whether it's you know, things of lust or greed, anything

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that would do any other human harm. You know, God

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gives us a path that is based on his blessing

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so that we can be a blessing. And when we're

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on that narrow path, yes, we're going to see a

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lot of people around us that aren't on that narrow path.

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And you need to observe the contrast because there are

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sequences to each of those paths, and if you want

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the good paths of righteousness and that that goes with it,

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01:47:06.640 --> 01:47:09.600
then you have to stay connected to God Almighty.

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Don't you.

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Yeah, And you know that idea that Jesus talked about.

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There's a narrow path that leads to life, but wide

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is the road that leads to destruction. He was saying

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that every other pathway but me, you know, the Lord Jesus,

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will lead to eternal destruction and in its own time

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negative consequences here on earth. And so the narrow path

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that Jesus was speaking of, we could misconstrue to think, okay,

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it's always being moral, never having lust, never losing our temper,

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handling money perfectly, making sure our marriage is perfect and

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our kids behave all the time, you know, having the

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greatest ethics ever in business, to be honest. That is

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the moralism, legalism and religious route. Those are all nice

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good things, but they're impossible to live up to in perfection.

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The narrow road Jesus spoke of was him as the shepherd.

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Remember he said, there's only one true shepherd, and I

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owe my sheep and they come to me. But everything

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else is destructive, and so Jesus is the narrow road.

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And of course, if you count on him and you're

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so grateful for what He's done for you on the

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cross and rising and forgiving your sin, then obedience and

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morality is easier. But even then, Bill, the greatest morality

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is to be humble, right, and how humility means. I

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know that I'm imperfect. I know that I'm not better

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than other people. I know, but for the grace of God,

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I could be the one messing up in the way

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that person in the news story is messing up. So

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we can't get confused that the narrow road is earning

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our way to heaven. The narrow way is humbly saying

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I can't make it, I can't do it. I couldn't

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solve this, I can't save the world, and I certainly

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can't save myself. That's why I trust in Jesus. Trusting

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in Jesus gives you a whole new opportunity to be

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righteous because he gives it to you versus you earning.

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It right exactly. And also it's the recognition the narrow

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way that you're referring to, that there is that contrast,

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There is a difference, so that when you lose your

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way because of the price that Jesus paid on the cross,

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once for all time, guess what you're forgiven and he

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brings you back on the path, right, I mean, he

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opens up that way for you to come back. It's

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not that all of a sudden God decides, Oh, Jeff's

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going out there, and I'm just going to make a

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hard left, you know, and leave Jeff in the dust. No,

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God stays saying yesterday today and fevor, like we talked

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about last week, he's unchanging, so he's always there. It's

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us we are the like you said, in our own arrogance,

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we leave the path. Then we go, oh wait a minute,

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something's not right here spiritually, you know, you know, for

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those of us who have been blessed with the Holy

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Spirit consciousness which we're about to observe Pentecosts and be

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reminded of that powerful impact in our lives, that is

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a you know, that is part of the ministry of

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God that convicts us to confirm that, hey, you're on

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the wrong path or you're on the right path. And

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when you're on the wrong path, and okay, are you

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going to have as you say very appropriately the humility

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to say, God, have messed up, Help me get back

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on the path again.

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Now, well, the apostle Paul wrote that all of us

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are like sheep who wandered around and went astray. We

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sin and all have fallen short right of this perfect

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mark of living righteously as God intended, and Jesus is

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the only one that did it. But again, once God

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saw that we messed up and went astray, he provided

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in grace the solution that Jesus lived at perfectly. He

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then paid the price of sacrificing his life, you know,

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his body and his blood, so that we who deserve justice,

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which is to be separated and punished, to be apart

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from God, we get the benefit of christ righteous life.

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And now we can be his sons and his daughters

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in that family. But that never changes our attitude from

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you know, humility to pride. It needs to go to

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more and more and more humility, because it's all credit

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to him. Right exactly, Jesus was the most humble leaving

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heaven to come to earth. So I think the narrow

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path is the word grace and the meaning of grace,

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which is demonstrated in Jesus Christ. Sometimes you could think

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grace just means anything goes no. Grace means I'm so forgiven,

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and I'll be forgiven tomorrow if I mess up again,

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and I'll be forgiven a month for now if I

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mess up real big. But I understand that it was

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paid such a price, Jesus paid such a price for

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that grace that I don't take it for granted and

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just run around saying I'm going to do whatever I

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want and I'm going to change all God's rules. Because

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change God's rules people get hurt. Exact that's what the

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Ten Commandments do. They protect one another.

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Well, it's a call to be submissive. And I know

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in the English vernacular in the modern era, that is

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a term that can sometimes great against people. But think

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about it. There's a reason it greats against you, and

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it causes the hair on the back of your neck

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to stand up, because in this fallen world we're not submissive,

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but we don't realize that what God means by that,

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it's being obedient to God. So that you come under

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submissive means come under the protection of Think about that.

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I mean, who do you want to be protected by?

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Do you want to be protected by Bill or Jeff

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or how about God almighty, who knows all things, who

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loves all things, protects all things, and is the most

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powerful force in the universe. I'll choose God, okay.

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And the idea of the narrow way, we've been talking

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about it. Being Jesus member, he said, I'm the vine

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and you're the branches. If you connect to me, if

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you connect your life to me, if you ask me

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to be your Lord and savior, if you're born again

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and say I put all my trust in Jesus, which

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you were referring to the Holy Spirit that came at

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Pentecost at a certain time, but it comes at the

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time where a person gives their life to Christ. Jesus said,

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if you abide in me, live in me, dwell in me,

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depend on me, focus on me, trust me, and follow me.

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That's what abiding means. Then your life will bear much fruit.

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You'll be free to not do the bad, negative stuff

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and to do the good, positive, fruitful stuff. Love, joy, pays, kindness, faithfulness, gentleness,

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self control. Boy, these things would improve my marriage, they

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would improve my parenting. They'd help me be a better

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citizen and a better employee and a better employer and

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handle conflict better. We see the way Jesus handled conflict.

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He put the ear back on Malchus after Peter chop

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the ear off that person in the garden when they

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came to arrest him. You know, he said, don't take

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up arms. You get slapped in one cheek, turn the

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other cheek. Forgive seventy times seven exactly. God is the

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one who will affect justice in the end. And Jesus said,

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you show grace now, and my heavenly Father will take

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care of you. And we overcome evil, as Romans tells us,

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by good, not by lawsuits, not by fistfights, not by

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negative tweets and character assassination. So Jesus has shown the

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way grace in the face of those who offend or

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hurt or persecute us. And that's when the church grew

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and its greatest magnitude. Every time it's persecuted. America isn't

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that persecuted And we have a very lukewarm faith in

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America these days.

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But I think that I think that's one perspective. But

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we can also see that there's been a lot of

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persecution in the church, and we're finding this out more

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and more. How it was and how the government was

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going after and targeting the church. And so certainly I

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mean by comparison, you know Christians in Nigeria and other

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countries where Christians are being murdered in mass I get

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that it runs the spectrum. But to your point, every

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time this happens, God arises and his enemies are scattering. Jeff,

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that's what we can see. We have to leave it there.

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And again, you know, in our conversation, I hope that

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you're receiving this in such a way that we are

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not in any manner whatsoever saying that Bill and Jeff

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got this all figured out and that we're perfect by

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no means. What we're sharing with you is the great

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of God that we've realized in our lives, how fallen

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we are, and how much we count on the way

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of Christ, and how whenever we're off track we scramble

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ourselves to do this. And so our words are words

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of experience and encouragement to you that you will be

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built up and encouraged to continue to fight the good

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fight of faith. Is that fair to say, Jeff?

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It's fair to say this. God loves each person listening, way, way,

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way more than they realize and we don't deserve his love,

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but we've gotten it. That's why we're sharing it.

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