May 19, 2026
The Bill Martinez Show 05 19 26

The Bill Martinez Show 05 19 26
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Are you ready, Yeah, Okay, let's do an Ill Martinas
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Live a program about current events.
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Our culture, our values, our politics, and our future.
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And now Bill Martinez, well.
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Good morning America. Great to have you with us. Six
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minutes after the top of the R. Right now, it's
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great to have Rover Norquist from ATR with us. Hey, Rover,
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good morning, How are you?
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Oh, very good, Bell, Good to be with you.
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Well, let's talk. You know, it's amazing when I was
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reading about what you were reporting on here recently, this
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talk in Washington about a temporary gas tax holiday. You're
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saying Congress should go much further, permanently abolished the federal
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gas tax. Like everything that comes out of the government,
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it is the epitome of the disease of more. There's
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just never enough taxes, is there?
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There?
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Reson?
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It started as a one cent per gallon tax back
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in nineteen thirty two. This was Herbert Hoover's brilliant idea,
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a temporary tax, by the way, not to build roads,
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but to deal with the deficit, spend it because they
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didn't have enough money. They wonder Hoover had a massive
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collection of tax increases that he passed and then FDR
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just did more of what Hoover did, So why did
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I don't know why FDR Franklin, Dollan and Roosevelt thought
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continuing Hooper's big spending, big tax, price control policies would
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somehow help the economy because it hadn't Donender Hoover, but
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he did more. The recession lasted ten years. But so
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they since that, it's gone from one cent the federal
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gasoline tax to over eighteen cents. And one of the
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challenges is, and you're quite right, Americans for Taxing formed
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the group I run has suggested, let's not put it
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on pause. Let's kill it the federal gas tax, and
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say to the states, the money that you want to
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spend on roads, you raise. You have a state tax.
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If you want to add to that, you can. No
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one would go as high as eighteen And what happens
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with the eighteen cents is they use it for a
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political I mean corruption. Much of it goes to five cities,
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metros there subways. I'm sorry, I'm driving a car, I
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use gasoline. I'm paying for a metro. A metro should
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pay for metro. I pay for road. He pays for metro.
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What is this but that's the kind of corruption that
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you have. They tell people the gas taxes for roads,
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and they use it for many other things.
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Is this a both sides situation? Grow over where both
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sides are doing it? Because it just seems to be
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that that's the economy of the beltwegh. Everything is quid
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pro quo, and every time there's a payback, government just
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continues to increase in size and in a efficiency.
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Well.
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On the effort to take money from roads which people
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in rural areas need and people in suburbs need, and
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give it instead to blue cities, that tends to be
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something the Democrats thought up and defend. Now, in order
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to pass a highway bill, you need Republican votes also,
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and so there's a challenge because there's so much money there.
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It's quid pro quo. People get money for particular things
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in their district. If it's for your district, there's no
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reason the federal government should have anything.
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To do with it.
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It should be at the state level. If it's for
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the whole country, you go, okay. If we're going to
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build a highway from one end of the end, as
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we did under Eisenhower, all series of highways that's done.
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All they have to do now is repave them from
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time to time. And there's no reason the fifty states
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shouldn't and couldn't be held responsible because they would do
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that for their own states. What tends to lapse is
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the federal spending because there's a law called the Davis
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Bacon at which was designed for very pernicious reasons to
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keep blacks out of the industry. And they said so
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on the floor of Congress. They wanted to raise the
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price to union wages so non union people couldn't get
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jobs in building anything the federal government builds. All highways
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have that law attached to if you get federal money,
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so get the federal money out, and every highway would
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cost ten to fifteen percent less.
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See, this is the stuff. And thank God for ATR
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that you continue to reveal the truth and the inner
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machinations of how we got to thirty nine trillion dollars
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in debt in counting, and why the government is too
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big and why it's so inefficient at every turn. This
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is all being exposed, and it's up to the people
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and how they vote and why they need to be knowledgeable.
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And you can't be this disconnected, laissez fair type of voter.
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This is what God is in the mess to begin with.
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Yes, I mean we if you move things from the
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federal government to the state government, there's a chance that
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people can be held responsible. Right now, if somebody says, oh,
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the roads aren't very good, well that's that's Washington, says mayor,
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says governor. You really need to have accountability at the
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local level, at the state level. And if you send
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your money to Washington, first of all, they keep some.
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Then they decide, well, we're not so much interested in roads.
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Let's have subways. Let's have you know, speed high speed rail.
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Like the tens of billions of dollars that have gotten
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nothing built in California. That's the kind of garbage that
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your gas tax goes to as it goes to Washington. First,
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that should end.
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Well, you know, in speaking California, as you know, I
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was in California for the last couple of weeks, and
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you know, prices anywhere for a gallon of gas Grover,
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you know, probably about six fifty average, but even a
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high of eight dollars and fifty cents and two dollars
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at least two dollars of that is going to the
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state of California. You know, Governor Newsom is getting his
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big and you know the State House is getting their share,
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as you say, and you know, it's just disgusting what
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these people are subjected to. But I got to tell you,
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it's amazing to me. And this is what, you know,
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kind of gives them some sense of confidence. And I
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say them, I'm talking about the officials in the state offices,
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because when you drive the freeways of California, they're as
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busy as ever people are driving. Forget about sixty five.
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It's if you try and drive sixty five, which is
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the speed limit, you're gonna get run over.
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You know, I remember when Gerald Ford tried to make
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everybody drive fifty five. Just annoying and a waste of
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everybody's time. And of course, when they put price controls
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on oil after one of the wars in the Middle East,
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those stayed until Reagan came in. And when Reagan got
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rid of the price controls, which were supposed to keep
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prices down, what happened. Prices fell. Why Because if you
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don't have price controls a cap on what something costs,
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people will invest war to find more oil. Then they
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find bunches of more oil and prices go down. So
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you actually saw prices fall after they repealed the stupid
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price controls that were supposed to keep prices down. Government
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price controls always mess up everything.
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Well, you'd think we'd know enough by now, Grover, but
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they can't help themselves right.
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Well, they like to come up with new excuses to
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have more power in Washington and have more money in
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Washington and more decisions in Washington. And it's not just
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the congressmen and senators, it's the bureaucrats who live in Washington.
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Their pay goes up. They're more important. If I have
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ten people working for me, I can get I can
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justify being paid more than a five. Five people working
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for me in my department doesn't matter. If the extra
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five people are doing nothing. It makes me look like
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I'm more important. I need to pay rate. I've got
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ten people underneath me instead of in the private sector.
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I figured out how to do the same job with
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four people, not five people, so we can invest that
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money other place.
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That's what you get.
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The race for us to figure out how to make
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more wealth and more stuff with fewer people, not more people,
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