May 5, 2025

Why Gendercide Is The Real 'War on Women

Why Gendercide Is The Real 'War on Women

Reggie Littlejohn is a graduate of Yale Law School who worked as a litigation attorney for 8 years. She is the founder and president of Women’s Rights Without Frontiers, an international coalition to expose and oppose forced abortion, gendercide, and...

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Season 2

Reggie Littlejohn is a graduate of Yale Law School who worked as a litigation attorney for 8 years. She is the founder and president of Women’s Rights Without Frontiers, an international coalition to expose and oppose forced abortion, gendercide, and sexual slavery in China, and to free blind activist Chen Guangcheng. She exposes how China's one child policy has led from infanticide to gendercide. Plus the impact it has on their economy and more significantly on their country's morality.

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Hello and welcome Bill Martinez here. Great to have you

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with us, sharing a part of your day. For more

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information on the show, you can check it out Bill

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Martinez Live dot Com. With us is Reggie little John.

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Reggie is a graduate of Yel Law School, worked as

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a litigation attorney for eight years. Founder and president of

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Women's Rights Without Frontiers and International Coalition to Expose and

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opposed forced abortion, what we're calling gender side and sexual

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slavery in China, and the free blind activist Cheng Guancheng.

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She just testified before the US Congress, at the European Parliament,

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British and Irish Parliament as well and brief officials at

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the White House, the United States Department of State, and

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the Vatican. Reggie, welcome to the show. Good to have

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you with us.

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Thank you so very much for having me. Bill, it

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is a pleasure to be here.

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Well, I'll tell you the topics and topics I should

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say that we have to address are very important. We're

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going to focus on China. China is in the news

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in so many ways, and most of the time it

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has to do with the economy. Of course, the tariff

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war that continues, but little is said about the gender

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side and what they have done, which when you go back,

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historically started with the one child policy, which has had

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its it's great effect on the population decline in in China,

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and of course this has caused a ton of other

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cascading issues as well. And of course the one child

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policy came about in nineteen seventy nine, which ended in

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twenty fifteen, and so along with that you got a

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lot of unintended consequences, right.

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Absolutely so, As you mentioned, I am an attorney of

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graduate of VL Law School and I practice litigation for

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eight years and during that time I represented a couple

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of refugees from China in their cases for a political

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asylum in the United States, and they were both victims

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of the one Child policy in terms of forced abortion

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and also the sex and also forced sterilization. And one

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of my clients had been literally picked up. She had

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two kids, so she violated the one child policy and

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they literally picked her up and dragged her out of

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her home screaming and crying, and held her down to

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a table and performed a tubal ligation, which is abdominal

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surgery without anesthesia, with a massive infection, and was permanently

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disabled from that point forward. So that's when I left

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the practice of law and founded Women's Rights Without Frontiers

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to stop forced abortion in China under the one Child policy.

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So this was, you know, in the mid two thousands.

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And I don't know if you want to play our

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original video it's called stop forced Abortion in China. But

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this is what was going on at the time when

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I founded Women's Rights Without Frontiers. And there's one graphic

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image in that video which I would just if you

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don't want to see a graphic image of an aborted baby,

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just close your eyes when I say, and I have

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a picture of this, just keep your eyes closed for

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about fifteen seconds.

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Okay, let's go ahead and call that up now, rebel.

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I'm a litigation attorney and in the nineties I represented

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a client who had escaped China. I represented her in

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her case for political asylum in the United States, and

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she had been forcibly sterilized. That was my introduction to

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the reality behind the one child policy. In fact, China's

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one child policy causes more violence against women and girls

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than any other official policy on Earth. I call it

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China's war on women and girls. When I say forced abortion,

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I mean women are literally dragged out of their homes

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or off the streets. They can be jailed in family

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planning jail cells, forced to abort children that they want,

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and this can happen all the way up to the

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ninth month of pregnancy. Some of these forced abortions are

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so violent that the women themselves.

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Die along with their full term babies.

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One case that I'll never forget is of a young

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woman who was seven months pregnant without a birth permit

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so that would be an illegal pregnancy, who was walking

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down the street and she was grabbed by family planning cadres,

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dragged off the street, strapped down to a table, forced

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to abort the baby that she very desperately wanted. And

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in the end, one of the medical personnel came to

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her with a body of her aborted baby and said,

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you need to pay for this so that we can

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dispose of the body, and she said she didn't have

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any money, so they just laid that body right next

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to her in the bed, and I've got a photograph

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of her looking down and just grieving the loss of

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this seven month old baby that.

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Was forcibly aborted.

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It does not matter whether you are a pro choice

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or pro life on this issue. No one supports forced

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abortion because it's not a choice, and this violence must stop.

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My goal in establishing women's rights Route Frontiers is to

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end forced abortion and sexual slavery in China, and to

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that end, I have testified before Congress, I've addressed the

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European Parliament, brief the White House. When I started this

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several years ago, no one was talking about.

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The one child policy.

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And now because of the documentation that has been generated,

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two things have happened. Number One, the Chinese Communist Party

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cannot deny that the one Chill policy is enforced through

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forced abortion, forced civilization.

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And infanticide. At Number two.

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It seems that almost everybody is talking about it at

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this point, has become a household issue. Stop the violence

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and China's war on women. Forced abortion is not a choice.

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What a powerful video forced abortion. This is the most

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incredible You say that more people are aware, but we

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have a long ways to go yet, because as you stated, Reggie,

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I mean what has started out is infanticide has now

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gone its course to become gender side. And we'll talk

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about that in a moment, but I want to really

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sit on this infanticide that's been going on in China unchecked.

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And I guess China is just their own protected nation

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in such a way that the people are silent.

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Internationally, well yeah, I mean China has infiltrated its way

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into the health organization denied nations, including the United Nations

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Human rights counsels, no one is. And also they have

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trade relationships. You also have a debt trap diplomacy where

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like in developing country and even some developed countries, they

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will finance infrastructure and then in the fine print and

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infrastructure meaning a railroad, an airport, a port, but in

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the fine print, what it says is if you can't

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pay the loan back, we will own this infrastructure exactly.

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And so that that has enabled them to get massive

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infrastructure all over the world, and it keeps countries just

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silent about them, not wanting to confront them because they

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don't want China to call their debts. So China is

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basically unaccountable to anyone. So this when I made this video,

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and this was I don't know when I made this,

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like two thousand and nine or something, or maybe twenty eleven.

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You know, one chill policy was just rampant. Right now,

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they've gone to a two chail policy to a three

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chail policy, and I have called repeatedly for them and

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any policy of coercive birth limits. You know, they are

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actually desperate for having more babies. Why are they keeping

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why are they saying what the current law is, which

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is every couple, every married couple is allowed to have

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two children, which means that legally, under their own laws,

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they can go and forcibly bored an unmarried woman or

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a fourth child. And you know, as a fourth child myself,

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I stand for the rights of four children to live

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right but anyway, So but then when they moved to

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a two child policy. In the three child policy, people

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kind of assumed that more girls would be allowed to

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be born because under the one child policy, so many

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couples they could only have one kid. But they really

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wanted was a boy, a veil, and so then they

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would you know, the Chinese, there's two different kinds of

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forced abortion they're going on here. There's force abortion by

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the government and there's what I would call gender side.

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I would call that forced abortion by the culture or

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by the family. So with a government, if you don't

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have a birth permitter, if you are out of policy,

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then then they then they can forcibly bort you and

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I and I think that these forced abortions have gone

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down in mainland China. But I think one of the

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reasons that they want to keep that law on the

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books that only every married couple is allowed to have

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three children is to use it selectively against disfavored minorities

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such as the wigers in Shinjong or the develops. Right, So,

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I mean, I can't understand any other reason that they

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are keeping that law on the books other than that.

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And I'm sure they could recall your permit. You may

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have a permit for three children, but if they arboritrarily

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decide that, uh, now we say, now today you only

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have two.

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You know, something that happened Bill, Yeah, okay, that happened.

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That happened to the Wigers. So what happened to the

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Wiggers is as a minority, they were allowed to have

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three children. And then when the when China went from

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a one child policy to a two child policy, they

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said to the Wigers, you know, we now have a

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two child policy where applying this across the board, and

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therefore you have three children. So either we're finding you

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or we are going to put you in jail. And

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they have, you know, like these weaker concentration camps, right,

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and one of the big reasons that people are in

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there is because they have three kids. And that is

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another reason that the one child policy to the three

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child policy. One of the reasons one of the many

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reasons that people are not wanting to have kids, especially

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more kids, especially where I am in the countryside, is

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that they could just reverse it. They could say, okay,

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you have you know, you have three children when it

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was legal. Now we're going back to two child policy.

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So we're gonna you know, we're going to find you

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for that third child. So that there's no trust to

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the government. But what I wanted to say is that's

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the government forest abortion. The force abortion that's by the culture,

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by the family, is a sex selective abortion of baby girls,

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which we call gender side, which even under the two

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child policy and the three child policy, is still being practiced.

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So the Congressional Executive Commission on China recently came out

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with a statistic that said that for third children, there

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are one hundred and thirty three boys born for every

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hundred girls born in China. That means that there are

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thirty three girls aboarded for every hundred girls that are

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born in China. About a third of the girls who

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are third children are are boarded because of their gender.

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Now that's officially, So.

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What's going to happen with these boys when they grow

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up and they're looking for a.

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Spouse, Well, what has happened? So there's a massive gender

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disparity in China and there are I mean I've heard

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various estimates from thirty million to forty million or more men,

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more men in China than women. And what that does

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is it it creates a situation of in the in

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the countryside, they have these things called bachelor villages where

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the women because they are upwardly mobile, will go to

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the local town or the city to marry, so that

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the men in the poor villages have no women at all.

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And that is you know, that is a resume for

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social unrest exactly. And then they also have sexual slavery

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and human trafficking, including across international lines. But anyway, with

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respect to the gender side, you know, most people in China,

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if they have a boy, a lot of them will

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just say, okay, we've got our boy. We're not going

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to have any more kids. Then if they say and

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that happened under the one child policy, then when the

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two child policy opened up, there was one couple where

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they had a girl under the one child policy. Under

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the one child policy, and they figured, okay, we're one

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and done. We've got a girl. Then it opened up

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to a two child policy, and the husband said to

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the wife, let's have a second child. Let's have a boy.

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a year and then she died. Well, this is the thing,

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is that a lot of people who are willing to

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go to the effort and expensive having a second child

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in China, they have a girl for the first child.

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They want a boy. For the second child and for

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a third child. You know, it's very expensive to raise

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a child in China, and a lot of couples who

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are willing to go to the effort and expensive having

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a third child in China, it's because they have two

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girls and they want a boy. And so then those

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those third third girls are very, very vulnerable in China.

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So we've founded something called our Save a Girl Campaign,

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and I'd like to show that video. It's about three minutes.

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According to one un estimate, they're up to two hundred

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million women and girls missing in the world because of

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sex selective abortion and abandonment. That number two hundred million

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is greater than all the casualties of all the wars

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of the twentieth century combined. So for me, this is

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the true war against women. Something that people don't realize

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is that even under the new to child policy, or

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even if there was no coercive birth control in China

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at all, there'ld still be gender side because people, for

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whatever reason, they prefer boys over girls. After the two

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child policy was instituted, there was an incident of a

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woman who was whose husband forced her to abort four

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baby girls in a year and then she died. Women's

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Rights Without Frontiers is unique in that we are the

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only organization that has a network inside of China that

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is actively saving baby girls, and we've saved hundreds of

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baby girls in China. One story that was particularly meaningful

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to me was of this one woman who was being

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pressured to have an ultrasound, and she dragged her feet,

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finally went into the ultrasound and discovered not only did

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she have one, but she was carrying two baby girls.

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used up her entire quota and both of them would

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have been girls. So her mother in law started the

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pressure to her for her to abort those baby girls,

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and she didn't want to. She wanted to give birth

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to her daughters, and she didn't.

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Know what to do.

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So fortunately our field where her found out about this

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and went to her door and said, congratulations on your

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twin daughters. Girls are as good as boys, and we're

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not only going to offer you one, but we will

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offer you two monthly stipans for a year to empower

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you to keep your daughters. And with the encouragement and

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with the promise of resources, she was able to convince

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her mother in law, convince her husband to allow her

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to give birth to these girls. And now, of course

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everybody's in love with these baby girls. They're totally adorable.

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And we women's Rights without Frontiers believe that every girl

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has a right to draw breath on this earth, and

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that every woman has the right to give birth to

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her daughter. Girls do not deserve to be terminated just

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for the crime of being female. Our field workers on

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the ground in China are incredibly brave. They're flying under

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the radar screen from the Chinese Communist Party, at great

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risk for themselves. They go and rain sleet, snow and

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make sure that those women get that stiepan every month.

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That helps them support their daughters.

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And they need our help. So I would invite you

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to join me in what I think is the greatest

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women's rights battle of our age.

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That's ready, Reggie, what a powerful story. We got a

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question that came in, Uh Sam asked, how do you

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take care of your family if you're in jail?

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Wait, well, who's you referring to?

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Well this was a viewer who and yeah, if you're

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referring to this story, you know said that when they

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come in and they arrest the families and they put

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them in jail. Oh what happens to the children?

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Okay, they're talking about the Wiger families. Yes, okay, Well

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I'll tell you what. Sometimes only the father goes to jail,

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and then you know what they have been doing. I've

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heard reports. It's very hard to get information out of there.

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So so they have like assigned a Han Chinese man

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to live with the woman, and he's a spy. And also,

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you know, we believe that there's you know, some sexual

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abuse that's going on there or whatever I.

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Was going to I was going to ask that kind

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of sets things up there.

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For that, it totally sets it up. And if he's

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spying on her and he's abusing, it's horrible. Or if

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both parents go to jail, then they take the kids

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and they put them in an orphanage where they learn

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Chinese and they learn to forget their weaker heritage, and

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they learned to think that the Chinese Commics Party is great,

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so as a way of destroying the culture. And that's

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why Secretary of Pompeo under the first Truve administration declared

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that the Chinese Commics Party was committing genocide against the Leigers.

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So that's what happens, Reggie.

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Do we have any idea, I know, even here in America,

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we really don't have a proper count of how many

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abortions have taken place, any idea as to the number

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of abortions that have been conducted in China.

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So a long time ago. This is the covid Hagen

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Climate Summit. So when I say a long time ago,

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I think maybe two thousand and nine. Somewhere in that timeframe,

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one of the heads of the National Family Planning Association

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got up in covid Hagen and said that China's contribution

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to the fight against global warming was that they had

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prevented four hundred million lives through the one child policy.

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Four hundred million, and that was, you know, at least

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ten years ago, maybe fifteen years ago. At this point,

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I think it's probably closer to five hundred million at

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this point, because the one child policy continued from a

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number of years after that, than the two child policies.

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They're stillst abortion on the two child policy. But so

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I would estimate that that it would be maybe half

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a billion, and not all of them were done by

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forced abortion. Some were done by forced sterilization. Like my

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client was forcely forcibly sterilized. Some would have been done

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by forced contraception, and that has its own set of

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horror stories in it. But the way that we saved

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these baby girls is you know, like I said, we

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are the only organization of the world that actually has

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a network of field workers. Now these are not Americans

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in China. These are people who are from the local villages,

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who have earned the trust of the people and found

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out when a mother is either pregnant with a girl,

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or is given birth to a girl and is getting

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pressured by her family to give her up, or or

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what happens. We're in a farming community and I can't

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say where we are. But life is tough in China

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as it is. COVID made it tougher because when COVID

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hit and by the way, COVID has not gone away

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completely in China the way it mostly has, I mean

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in the United States is really kind of a non issue.

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But every time it hits an area, then the trucks stuff,

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the transportation stops, so then you know, people's people's vegetables

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rot and they can't bring them to market, and they

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become very impoverished, or you would think that in China

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they would have socialized medicine, you know.

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So if somebody gets sick, if then they break their leg, whatever,

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they have to pay for that. If that happens to

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one of these farming families, they are in a state

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state of destitution, and then they get pregnant with a

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girl and then pressure to give her up, like you know,

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give her to another family or whatever. But the mother

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doesn't want you. She wants to keep her daughter. So

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we will go and we will offer her twenty five

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dollars a month for a year and usually it's more

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like two or three years to empower her to keep

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her daughter and to go to her husband and say, look,

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I can't boy, I can't abandon this baby girl. She's

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a lucky girl. She's bringing money into the family.

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So that's what we do her. They see her at

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that point as an asset. Reggie, help help our audience

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understand why though you say, there's really no difference between

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boys and girls. But yet in the culture of the

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Chinese culture, boys are a little bit more significant. But

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there's a cultural reason for that, right, absolutely.

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So, and not just in China, but also in India

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and also in other countries in the world, not just China,

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that there is an extreme bias towards boys because they

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carry on the family name, because they will. In China, traditionally,

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it's the boy that has to offer the parents to

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the ancestors when they die. But then the most important

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thing is in traditional Chinese society, when a couple marries,

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the young woman goes over to the young man's family

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and she becomes part of his family, and they can

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even end up living in the same home as his family.

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So there's a saying in China that that raising a

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girl is like watering somebody else's garden because all the love,

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all the care, all the education, everything you've poured into

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that girl, you're gonna lose when she gets married. She's

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not going to be there for you when you're old.

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So then the young woman and the young man support

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his parents in their old age, and that's why they

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you know, that's one of the big reasons that they

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that they prefer boys over girls.

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So talk about leaving and cleaving, they really leave and

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cleave then totally totally.

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But then one of the other things that we that

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I thought about in China was that not only are

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the baby girls affected, but also abandoned widows. This is

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something that people don't really think about. I call them

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the invisible victims of the one child policy. So in

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the same area that we were saving baby girls, we

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have also started saving abandoned widows. And the reasons I

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call them the invisible victims of the one child policy

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is that, you know, under traditional Chinese society, Number one,

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the elderly were venerated no more, Okay, they're not venerated anymore,

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and then they would have a large, farming family, and

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so their children would then have large families.

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Of their own.

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They're all farming, very large families, so that when the

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original couple got old, they would have an extended family

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to support them. And under the one child policy, that

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doesn't that's not the case anymore. It's not just the

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one child policy, it's also the migration from the countryside

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to the cities that their kids are not there anymore,

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and so you have these abandoned widows in the Chinese

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countryside or utterly destitute and all alone and committing suicidal.

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They have a very high suicide rate among the elderly

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in China, especially women in the countryside, and so we

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have gone to these our field workers that are saving

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baby girls are also going to these widows and going

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to the doors and saying, we understand that you need help.

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So we're going to help you with twenty five dollars

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a month for the rest of your life. And this

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has been the difference, you know, that made a huge

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difference between being able to eat every day or not

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being able to heat your tiny little room during the

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winter or not. So I'm wondering if we could now

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play the three minute before.

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We do that, though, I do want to bring back

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this point that here it's not like you're getting Usaid money.

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You're not getting money from the government. You're doing this

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out of your own foundations.

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Well, what it is is donations. I mean people donate,

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you know, and this is women's art with affrontiers is

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the only way in the world that you can actually

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get money into the hands of a woman who with

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an at risk baby girl or an abandoned widow who

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has no one else to support her. So we are

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absolutely unique in that way.

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And it's not going through the government. This is not

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erectly to the families, right.

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That's right, that's absolutely right.

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You know.

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So, so we have a separate account called the China Account,

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and we don't take operating our operating expenses out of that.

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It's all all the money goes to the babies and

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the widows, and the under regie goes Okay, one hundred

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percent goes to the babies, the widows, and the field

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workers who are risking their freedom and their lives every

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day to get the money to them, we pay them, okay,

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so so yeah, but it's one hundred percent of it

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goes into China. See, that's that's.

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00:27:37.680 --> 00:27:40.880
That's unheard of because most foundations, I mean even the

469
00:27:40.920 --> 00:27:44.440
Red Cross will hold back twenty five percent for administrative costs.

470
00:27:44.839 --> 00:27:47.039
No, we are actually funding this. Not only are we

471
00:27:47.119 --> 00:27:49.440
not holding back money for administrative costs, but we don't

472
00:27:49.480 --> 00:27:52.359
have enough money to cover the program. So we are

473
00:27:52.400 --> 00:27:54.599
taking money out of our general fund and putting it

474
00:27:54.680 --> 00:27:58.160
into you know, the China account to keep this program

475
00:27:58.200 --> 00:28:01.480
going because we are saving lives and making a huge,

476
00:28:02.119 --> 00:28:03.119
huge difference.

477
00:28:03.359 --> 00:28:05.559
Yeah, I can tell Okay, let's go ahead and let's

478
00:28:05.559 --> 00:28:06.480
play that third video.

479
00:28:06.559 --> 00:28:17.759
Then China has the highest female suicide rate of any

480
00:28:17.880 --> 00:28:22.440
country in the world, according to statistic quoted by the

481
00:28:22.480 --> 00:28:28.559
State Department. Five hundred and ninety women a day kill

482
00:28:28.599 --> 00:28:35.640
themselves in China, and countless more try. China's senior suicide

483
00:28:35.759 --> 00:28:41.519
rate has skyrocketed over the last twenty years in conjunction

484
00:28:41.599 --> 00:28:46.519
with a one child policy. In fact, it has increased five.

485
00:28:46.440 --> 00:28:49.480
Hundred percent over the last twenty years.

486
00:28:50.920 --> 00:28:53.720
So there's a population of widows in China that are

487
00:28:54.000 --> 00:28:58.759
utterly destitute and completely lonely. They feel that nobody in

488
00:28:58.799 --> 00:29:03.400
the world cares for them, and they don't have resources.

489
00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:07.440
One of the widows that we're supporting a couple days

490
00:29:07.480 --> 00:29:11.559
a week, she would eat only salt because she had

491
00:29:11.599 --> 00:29:14.480
no money to buy food, and she brought herself a

492
00:29:14.599 --> 00:29:18.799
rope to hang herself with someday when life got too tough.

493
00:29:19.559 --> 00:29:23.759
So we have a network of field workers inside of China.

494
00:29:24.039 --> 00:29:27.039
That network has been saving baby girls for years.

495
00:29:27.799 --> 00:29:30.119
But over the years, I've become.

496
00:29:29.920 --> 00:29:34.880
More and more aware of elderly and completely abandoned widows

497
00:29:35.960 --> 00:29:39.920
in our area. So the same network that's saving girls

498
00:29:40.200 --> 00:29:44.880
is also saving these abandoned widows. And we go to

499
00:29:44.920 --> 00:29:50.119
their doors and we say to them, we understand that

500
00:29:51.000 --> 00:29:55.359
you need help, and so we're here to help you.

501
00:29:57.480 --> 00:30:04.799
And they are grateful beyond any imagination for this. The

502
00:30:04.839 --> 00:30:09.359
reaction for so many of them is my own family

503
00:30:09.440 --> 00:30:11.720
has abandoned me, and yet people from the other side

504
00:30:11.720 --> 00:30:14.720
of the world are coming to my door to let

505
00:30:14.720 --> 00:30:17.160
me know that I'm loved and then make sure that

506
00:30:17.200 --> 00:30:24.319
I can eat. One of our widows said, I believe

507
00:30:24.440 --> 00:30:28.920
that you were sent by God in his mercy and

508
00:30:28.960 --> 00:30:31.440
that you're an angel. That's what she said to our

509
00:30:31.480 --> 00:30:36.839
field worker. It doesn't take much to make an incredible

510
00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:42.000
difference to somebody in the latter years of her.

511
00:30:41.880 --> 00:30:46.880
Life, and so I would invite you to join me

512
00:30:47.680 --> 00:30:52.960
in having an incredibly great impact on widows in China

513
00:30:53.319 --> 00:30:55.799
and hopefully in the rest of the world as well.

514
00:31:00.599 --> 00:31:04.920
Reggie, we talk about saving a widow, what about widowers?

515
00:31:05.480 --> 00:31:10.119
I got to imagine, you know, it covers both genders there.

516
00:31:10.400 --> 00:31:12.200
And then also the second part of the question I

517
00:31:12.200 --> 00:31:15.519
have for you is, I mean you mentioned earlier like

518
00:31:15.599 --> 00:31:19.640
twenty five dollars goes a long way in China, So

519
00:31:19.920 --> 00:31:21.839
put that in downs. First of all, just talk about

520
00:31:21.839 --> 00:31:24.480
the widowers, and then talk about the kind of funding

521
00:31:24.680 --> 00:31:28.240
and how you're able to leverage it so extensively.

522
00:31:28.559 --> 00:31:32.680
Well, okay, in terms of widowers, because we're women's rights

523
00:31:32.680 --> 00:31:35.640
without front chairs. We picked widows to go along with

524
00:31:35.759 --> 00:31:36.480
baby girls.

525
00:31:36.519 --> 00:31:39.119
I mean, you know, no, that makes sense, I understand that.

526
00:31:39.480 --> 00:31:41.440
So and then in terms of but I.

527
00:31:41.440 --> 00:31:43.759
Can say, I know your heart though. Once you see

528
00:31:43.759 --> 00:31:46.559
an ailing heart, you're not looking at gender, You're looking

529
00:31:46.599 --> 00:31:49.839
at the heart of humanity, right right.

530
00:31:49.960 --> 00:31:52.079
Well, we could consider doing that. I mean, you know,

531
00:31:52.559 --> 00:31:55.559
the widowers a lot of them are not in as

532
00:31:55.599 --> 00:31:57.720
bad a position as the widows because they are the

533
00:31:57.759 --> 00:31:59.440
one The widows are the ones who are like raised

534
00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:02.759
the family. The widower's you know, are the ones who

535
00:32:02.799 --> 00:32:04.480
are out there in the fields and working, so they

536
00:32:04.920 --> 00:32:08.160
have more means of support than the widows. But in

537
00:32:08.200 --> 00:32:11.359
any case, I mean, I wish we had money to

538
00:32:11.440 --> 00:32:14.480
save every widow and every widower in China and in

539
00:32:14.519 --> 00:32:17.599
the whole world. Anyone needs help, but we have to

540
00:32:17.720 --> 00:32:21.119
we have to sort of maintain our identity as an

541
00:32:21.160 --> 00:32:25.039
organization exactly rights Pavrontiers. So that's why we chose widows.

542
00:32:25.920 --> 00:32:29.160
But anyway, your second question was, how do we leverage

543
00:32:29.200 --> 00:32:30.440
the money? What do you mean by leverage?

544
00:32:30.559 --> 00:32:32.680
Well, well, I'm saying I'm just saying is that the amount

545
00:32:32.759 --> 00:32:35.960
of money goes a long way that people donate. I

546
00:32:36.000 --> 00:32:39.000
mean you talked about twenty five dollars being able to

547
00:32:39.079 --> 00:32:41.440
be utilized over an extended period of time. If I

548
00:32:41.480 --> 00:32:43.519
heard you correctly, you said for a year or something

549
00:32:44.440 --> 00:32:47.839
dollars a month a month, mon okay, right, right?

550
00:32:47.880 --> 00:32:50.920
So what we do our system was set up by

551
00:32:51.000 --> 00:32:55.720
a professional forensic accountant. And so I send money into China,

552
00:32:55.799 --> 00:32:57.279
and I'm not going to say how I do it,

553
00:32:57.640 --> 00:33:02.279
right obviously, and then the field worker there prints out

554
00:33:02.279 --> 00:33:04.079
the bank receipts so I know that she received it.

555
00:33:04.119 --> 00:33:06.799
And then she has a list of every mother of

556
00:33:06.839 --> 00:33:09.880
every girl and every widow, and they have to sign

557
00:33:09.960 --> 00:33:12.920
that they have received the money, okay. And then when

558
00:33:12.960 --> 00:33:15.680
all that happens, and she then she does not send

559
00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:18.440
it over the internet. She snail mails it to the

560
00:33:18.440 --> 00:33:21.799
person that is, you know, the go between between me

561
00:33:21.799 --> 00:33:23.640
and the network and China, to someone who speaks Chinese

562
00:33:23.640 --> 00:33:25.759
in English, and then we release the money for the

563
00:33:25.759 --> 00:33:28.759
next month. So it's it's we have a lot of

564
00:33:28.799 --> 00:33:32.240
accountability in terms of that money getting into the hands

565
00:33:32.279 --> 00:33:35.119
of the widows and the mothers of the babies.

566
00:33:35.240 --> 00:33:37.359
Probably more than our government, I might say.

567
00:33:37.400 --> 00:33:41.160
Oh, I'm sure more than our government. Absolutely don't need we.

568
00:33:41.119 --> 00:33:42.000
Don't need to doze.

569
00:33:42.039 --> 00:33:42.119
You.

570
00:33:42.839 --> 00:33:45.400
I got a question that came came in from Francis.

571
00:33:46.279 --> 00:33:48.279
She says, well, didn't the government over there and not

572
00:33:48.359 --> 00:33:51.279
think about these issues when they did the things that

573
00:33:51.319 --> 00:33:54.920
they did, did not realize any of this, any of

574
00:33:54.960 --> 00:34:00.519
this the potential consequence of their decisions.

575
00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:04.039
You know something, Bill, I think they knew the consequence

576
00:34:04.079 --> 00:34:06.559
of their decisions. So their own demographers have been jumping

577
00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:08.920
up and down for decades to end the one shell

578
00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:12.840
policy because it's not just about promoting gender side and

579
00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:14.639
this gender and balance, but it's also the fact that

580
00:34:14.679 --> 00:34:17.960
their population is imploding right now. They don't have enough

581
00:34:18.000 --> 00:34:21.440
young people to support their elderly, They don't have enough

582
00:34:21.760 --> 00:34:27.079
young women there they now they're labor forces going down

583
00:34:27.239 --> 00:34:29.280
for the first time in history has been going down,

584
00:34:29.400 --> 00:34:31.599
so they're no longer you know, the sort of world

585
00:34:31.599 --> 00:34:34.079
capital of cheap labor, and people are going to other countries.

586
00:34:34.519 --> 00:34:40.199
So what they've done is in order to benefit themselves economically,

587
00:34:40.280 --> 00:34:43.159
they've actually sort of written their own, you know, economic

588
00:34:43.239 --> 00:34:48.440
suicide notes. This this policy is completely backfart on them,

589
00:34:48.840 --> 00:34:51.119
you know, which is predictable. I mean, they're trying to

590
00:34:51.159 --> 00:34:52.920
play god dude, this is the thing. This is the

591
00:34:53.000 --> 00:34:58.719
thing they Okay, they view women and men, they view

592
00:34:58.880 --> 00:35:01.159
people and as.

593
00:35:01.239 --> 00:35:03.880
Just you know, well them their commodity.

594
00:35:04.519 --> 00:35:06.800
That people are a commodity. And if they say you

595
00:35:06.840 --> 00:35:09.000
can only have one child, you can sort of turn

596
00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:12.599
the spigot off of child bearing and then people will

597
00:35:12.599 --> 00:35:14.079
only have one child. But then if you say you

598
00:35:14.079 --> 00:35:16.280
can have two childre or three children, they thought that

599
00:35:16.360 --> 00:35:19.719
everybody just jump in and just automatically have two children,

600
00:35:19.920 --> 00:35:22.920
three children and bring the population back up on demand

601
00:35:23.119 --> 00:35:25.280
and that and people are not doing it. They're not

602
00:35:25.320 --> 00:35:27.000
doing it, and they're not doing it for a number

603
00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:30.119
of reasons, you know. One is that that they've beat

604
00:35:30.440 --> 00:35:34.639
beaten it into everybody's head that one one baby is best,

605
00:35:34.639 --> 00:35:36.719
that people actually believe them, and now that a lot

606
00:35:36.760 --> 00:35:39.159
of people want to have only one child. Another reason,

607
00:35:39.199 --> 00:35:41.679
it's very expensive to have a kid in China, more

608
00:35:41.679 --> 00:35:44.480
so than you would think. And then the third reason

609
00:35:44.559 --> 00:35:48.519
is that like under COVID, the Chinese Communist Party was

610
00:35:48.599 --> 00:35:53.880
so abusive to the society uh a lot, especially with

611
00:35:53.920 --> 00:35:58.519
the lockdowns, that there's a movement in China called the

612
00:35:58.639 --> 00:36:02.800
lie down flat movement and that yeah, and what it

613
00:36:02.880 --> 00:36:05.719
means is that young people are just there. They have

614
00:36:05.800 --> 00:36:08.599
seen that everything that they work for, everything they tried

615
00:36:08.639 --> 00:36:12.239
to build, was just taken away during COVID with the lockdowns,

616
00:36:12.679 --> 00:36:15.360
and so there's no point in putting any effort in anything.

617
00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:17.760
So they're going to put the minimum effort into everything

618
00:36:17.840 --> 00:36:22.679
just to survive and not really try to contribute, not

619
00:36:22.840 --> 00:36:26.280
try to build, you know, a dream or anything like that,

620
00:36:26.360 --> 00:36:27.840
and not try to have a kid. They don't want

621
00:36:27.840 --> 00:36:30.199
to have kids, and put them into this situation which

622
00:36:30.239 --> 00:36:33.079
they regard as hopeless. So that is a condemnation of

623
00:36:33.079 --> 00:36:34.960
the Chinese Commis Party if there ever was one.

624
00:36:35.320 --> 00:36:38.559
Well, as you said, it really is a war against God.

625
00:36:38.599 --> 00:36:41.159
I mean, forget about what God said. You know, the

626
00:36:41.239 --> 00:36:48.079
hubris of the government is to orchestrate or orchestrate this

627
00:36:48.239 --> 00:36:51.280
culture in such a way that these people aren't This

628
00:36:51.360 --> 00:36:54.159
is not their fault, this is being done to them.

629
00:36:54.480 --> 00:36:57.599
But they've been conditioned to think that their government is

630
00:36:57.639 --> 00:37:00.599
their God. So you know, you go long to get

631
00:37:00.599 --> 00:37:02.440
along right right.

632
00:37:02.480 --> 00:37:05.280
And and the whole thing is that you know, in

633
00:37:05.280 --> 00:37:08.159
traditional Chinese culture and in Christian and culture, that they

634
00:37:08.519 --> 00:37:13.199
really treasured their children. They venerated their elderly for their

635
00:37:13.280 --> 00:37:16.079
wisdom and for all that they had contributed, you know,

636
00:37:16.199 --> 00:37:18.280
over the course of their lives. And the Chinese government

637
00:37:18.320 --> 00:37:22.639
is completely materialistic modifies people like you said, So as

638
00:37:22.679 --> 00:37:27.360
soon as somebody is not producing anything, they're worthless, right right,

639
00:37:27.400 --> 00:37:29.679
and and and that and well that's that's where.

640
00:37:29.519 --> 00:37:31.599
You get into with the Wigers. They've been doing some

641
00:37:31.760 --> 00:37:36.599
organ harvesting there and their organs because they're of halal quality,

642
00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:39.719
they get more for their organs than they do for

643
00:37:40.599 --> 00:37:43.960
the regular Chinese people, for example, and also the fallen Gong.

644
00:37:44.360 --> 00:37:48.159
So so this is just this is where you get

645
00:37:48.320 --> 00:37:51.719
when you don't believe in in God, is that people

646
00:37:51.719 --> 00:37:55.400
are just commodities. And you know, as long as you're producing,

647
00:37:55.440 --> 00:37:58.000
you're okay. But you know, if your organs are worth

648
00:37:58.039 --> 00:38:00.679
more than you are, you know, then then the go

649
00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:04.199
for the organs. It's it's just it's horrific. It's just horrific.

650
00:38:04.519 --> 00:38:07.239
But the person, you know that I wanted to bring

651
00:38:07.360 --> 00:38:11.199
up is another thing that my organization has done. This

652
00:38:11.360 --> 00:38:14.760
was early on. There was an activist who was saying

653
00:38:14.800 --> 00:38:17.559
that what I'm saying now, but he's doing it from

654
00:38:18.360 --> 00:38:22.920
Chinese soil. So his name is Chen Guan Chen and

655
00:38:23.679 --> 00:38:28.079
we he was. He was in Lindi County, and he

656
00:38:28.199 --> 00:38:32.239
and his wife very bravely documented an forced abortion and

657
00:38:32.280 --> 00:38:35.840
force sterilization in Lini and came out with some horrific

658
00:38:35.960 --> 00:38:38.480
statistic like they said that they thought that there's something

659
00:38:38.480 --> 00:38:41.920
on two hundred ninety one thousand force abortions and sterilizations

660
00:38:42.000 --> 00:38:44.719
just in their county, just just in one year, which

661
00:38:44.840 --> 00:38:47.519
I if you extractolate that out over all the counties

662
00:38:47.679 --> 00:38:49.840
over all over China and all the years that these

663
00:38:49.840 --> 00:38:52.400
policies are in place, you get some astronomical number of

664
00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:55.320
forced abortion. But anyway, so he's been jailed. He was,

665
00:38:55.400 --> 00:39:00.920
He was jailed and tortured burcilessly, and I led the

666
00:39:00.960 --> 00:39:05.360
international movement to free him. So I don't know if

667
00:39:05.400 --> 00:39:07.639
you want to play the little three minute video about

668
00:39:07.719 --> 00:39:10.000
Chegwuan Chen, but he's the real hero in all of this.

669
00:39:10.480 --> 00:39:12.079
Yeah, let's go ahead and do that. We've got a

670
00:39:12.079 --> 00:39:13.199
little bit of time here left.

671
00:39:16.480 --> 00:39:26.199
Cheguan Chen is the tank man against the one child policy.

672
00:39:26.400 --> 00:39:29.719
Chen is blind, and yet it has taken a blind

673
00:39:29.760 --> 00:39:52.400
man to see the truth behind the brutal one child policy.

674
00:39:53.400 --> 00:39:57.639
Chen is the one who exposed the fact that there

675
00:39:57.679 --> 00:40:01.519
were one hundred and thirty thousand forcible and four civilizations

676
00:40:01.559 --> 00:40:05.480
in Lindy County, just one county in two thousand and five.

677
00:40:05.960 --> 00:40:09.239
For that, he served a four year, three month jail sentence,

678
00:40:09.360 --> 00:40:14.280
during which time he was beaten, tortured, and denied medical treatment.

679
00:40:19.960 --> 00:40:24.199
He nevertheless possesses the surpassing backbone to stand up against

680
00:40:24.239 --> 00:40:28.440
this totalitarian regime. The Chinese counties probably perceived this as

681
00:40:28.440 --> 00:40:36.199
a real threat to his crumbling legitimacy. In September of

682
00:40:36.199 --> 00:40:40.480
twenty ten, he was released from prison in an extremely

683
00:40:40.559 --> 00:40:45.079
weakened physical state, but he went to a larger prison,

684
00:40:45.119 --> 00:40:48.039
which is the prison of his own home. In fact,

685
00:40:48.039 --> 00:40:51.559
the entire village has become like a giant prison.

686
00:40:52.119 --> 00:40:53.599
What we're trying to do, he is to get through

687
00:40:53.679 --> 00:40:55.920
this man. This man has no authority.

688
00:40:56.239 --> 00:41:12.920
Believe yes, Ja ja Kandu like Jo Jagashi, where you

689
00:41:12.920 --> 00:41:15.280
will finish Tom k you will brief.

690
00:41:18.400 --> 00:41:31.119
Dahuoa Juno or we out here us cleary you hear.

691
00:41:42.079 --> 00:41:44.760
After the release of this video to the West, he

692
00:41:44.840 --> 00:41:48.119
and his wife were beaten senseless and left on their beds,

693
00:41:48.920 --> 00:41:51.840
unable to go to the hospital. Joined in the fight

694
00:41:52.159 --> 00:41:57.760
to free Timbechnai assigned the petition to send a message

695
00:41:57.800 --> 00:42:02.599
to the Chinese Communist Party and ten his wife must

696
00:42:02.679 --> 00:42:13.400
be free immediately. I send a message of ten ont

697
00:42:13.480 --> 00:42:17.280
in his family. Ten, we want to know you are

698
00:42:17.360 --> 00:42:20.559
not forgotten. We are fighting for you, and we will

699
00:42:20.639 --> 00:42:22.039
not stop until you are free.

700
00:42:36.760 --> 00:42:39.280
I love that I am blind, but now I see,

701
00:42:39.920 --> 00:42:43.280
and I could probably say that for our audience, before

702
00:42:43.800 --> 00:42:46.519
they saw what you shared with us today, we have

703
00:42:46.639 --> 00:42:49.880
been blind. And I pray that we now see what's

704
00:42:49.960 --> 00:42:52.039
going on, and that our eyes are opened up to

705
00:42:52.159 --> 00:42:56.320
the reality of what China is doing to babies, to

706
00:42:57.400 --> 00:43:02.400
little girls, widows. The consequent tquents of the one child policy,

707
00:43:02.480 --> 00:43:07.000
which started in nineteen seventy nine, in twenty fifteen they

708
00:43:07.119 --> 00:43:10.599
decided to expand it to now say you could have

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you could have two children, and I think in what

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twenty twenty one or twenty two they said, now you

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can go to three. But three is now leading to

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what you've been telling us about gender side. So we've

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gone from infanticide the gender side, all being brought to

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you by central planning of the Communist Chinese government. Right, Reggie,

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we got about a minute left, so I'm going to

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let you summarize and remind people how they can get

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involved and join with you for the cause to save

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these little girls.

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Well, go to Women's Rights Without Frontiers dot org. Women's

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Rights Without Frontiers dot org. There's a ten one ten

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page that tell us more about the story of all

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that I did and the worldwide campaign Iran to free him.

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And he's now one of my best friends and he

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lives near to me in Maryland, so that's unbelievable. But

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also on the upper right of the homepage you can

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see a place that says save a Girl in China.

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There's a red button you can click on that and

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get more information about that. There's another one called Save

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a Widow in China, and also another one called Save

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a Widow and Uganda, which we have not had time

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to discuss, but please do that. These widows and these babies,

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they really really need your help and we could expand

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this if we had resources and save more babies and

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more widows. So thank you so much.

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Well, and again I want to remind everybody that one

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hundred percent of their donation goes to help these little girls,

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help these families, to help widows there in China who

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who are suffering, and you know, if you can help out.

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I pray that you would do so and be as

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generous as God would lead you to be, because these

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are fellow human beings. I mean, in the universe picture

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here of God's creation, these are our brothers and sisters, Reggie.

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Absolutely, and so will you put the women's ours off

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Frontier's link down in the show notes or maybe I

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can put it right here in the chat. I don't know,

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but anyway that'd be good.

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Well exactly. Well, again, we cannot thank you enough for

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coming on and telling us the story. This is so

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important that people understand. Even some of the comments here,

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people still it's hard for them to really fully get

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their brain around the human abuse that's going on because

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some of this defies common sense.

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Right, well, it does defy common sense unless the goal

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is not only to control the population, but also to

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control people's minds and hearts through terror. You know the

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one Chill policy that the fairly the womb police function

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as domestic terrorists. So that's that's that. I believe that

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that was the purpose of the policy, rights of the

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policy exactly.

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And you would think that after all these decades they

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would figure this out. But like you said, this is

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this is not by accident. This is something that they've

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planned that they think they know better, as we said,

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better than God.

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Right, the Chinese Communist Party basically believes that it's God,

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and they persecute people who believe in God like the

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Christian Christian faith, even on Hindus Buddhists. Anybody who believes

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in a God that's above the Chinese Commist Party will

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get persecuted by them because they want to occupy the

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role of God in the lives of their people and

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their nation.

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And of course we still get reports, Reggie that the

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underground Christian Church in China is alive and well and

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very vibrant.

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Well, they say that the blood of the martyrs is

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the seed of the church, and so the more they

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get persecuted, the more they spread, and they just can't

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they can't stop it through the persecution.

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Well, Reggie Little John, as we close, remind everybody again

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the websites they can go to to understand in greater

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capacity what's going on and how they can partner with you.

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Women's Rights without Frontiers dot org. That's Women's Rights without

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Frontiers dot org.

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Well, Reggie Little John, thanks again for being on the show.

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We appreciate the time, take care and be blessed.

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Oh yeah, you too, Thank you so much, Bill Our.

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Thanks to Reggie little John. As we mentioned, she's a

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graduate of l Law School. She's worked as a litigation

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attorney for eight years. She's the founder and president of

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Women's Rights Without Frontiers and what she shared with us,

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I know is brain bruising to understand that this is

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happening in twenty in the twenty first century of our world,

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and it's happening to those that are you could say,

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less fortunate, those that are reliant on a government that

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tells them what to do when to do it. And

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let me say that what's happening in China, the way

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it's being ignored, you see, maybe you might be able

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to see some remnants or some aspects of Chinese culture

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and government that is creeping here even into the United

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States of America. Well, that's going to be a rap

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for us. I thank you for sharing a part of

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your day, for being a part of the solution and

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not adding to the problem. And again I could encourage

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you to go to Reggie's website and do what you

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can to participate and support the cause. Thank you so much.

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As I said, may God bless you and may keep you.

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May His peace surround you, and may he be gracious

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unto you. God bless Thank you,