When Anti-Government Speech Becomes Sedition

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Good to have you with us sharing a

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part of your day. And up
next we're gonna have my good friend John

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Whitehead from the Rutherford Institute. John
and I have enjoined the hip for a

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number of years and basically because we
believe in the same thing. We believe

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in the greatness of this country.
We believe in the Constitution, which is

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the foundational infrastructure and the setting for
this great American idea. John is an

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attorney, an author who has written, debated, and practice widely in the

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area of constitutional law, human rights, and popular culture. Widely recognized as

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one of the nation's most vocal and
involved civil liberty attorneys, His approach to

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civil liberty issues has earned him numerous
accolades and recognition, including the Hungarian Medal

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of Freedom and the twenty ten Millner
s Ball Lifetime Achievement Award for his decades

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of difficult and important work, as
well as his impeccable integrity in defending civil

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liberties for all. John is fond
of saying that it is knowledge that precedes

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action, and again he and I
are in total agreement with this. And

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this is what this radio show or
this podcast is all about. Is we

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want to educate and enlarge your capacity
to understand so that you had the right

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knowledge and therefore the right action.
Let's bring on John Whitehead now from the

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Rutherford Institute. John, how are
you doing, buddy. I find I've

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been going around the country speaking and
Memorial Day and trying to get people,

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like you said, educated, because
education is really important. Most Americans I

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talked to them, they don't know
much about the bill right, what's going

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on with the government and stuff like
that. I'm trying to wake him up.

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And I have said to many people, we only have a short amount

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of time if we're going to do
anything to say freedom for the future generations

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of children, and that's not going
to be easy too. We can talk

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about that exactly. Well. You
mentioned Memorial Day here. It is one

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day set aside to honor something like
one point six million patriots who gave up

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their lives for our freedoms that we
enjoy today. In contrast, we're giving

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thirty days for this month of Pride
that's taking place. This just should give

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you an immediate indication of how upside
down our world is, right right,

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and yeah, what again, I'll
go back. Many of the things we've

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seen over the last century have been
pushed or some good analytic material lots there,

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people who have studied it, been
controlled by people who work with the

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government, advertising agencies and stuff like
that, and they try to program the

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American people and the believing certain things. And they're doing a really good job

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of what I'm seeing today. And
also, as we've talked about it with

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Wokism and stuff like that, saying
the wrong word now means that you're a

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criminal almost you can, as we
can look into it deeper, the government

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is labeling people like that domestic extremist
and once you move in that direction,

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you're on a list somewhere. Folks
and I warned people, by the way,

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when they're on the internet and stuff
like that, what they're writing,

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I said, be careful part your
words because you can be flagged. And

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with the eighty thousand swat team range
going on in this country annually, and

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police show him somebody's doors, just
wanting to ask them a question. They

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come to door in the middle of
the night and an old man by the

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way comes to the door with his
cane. They're beating on the door and

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they shoot him through the window.
They thought they had a rifle. Most

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happening folks listen at one time.
That's what the founding follows of this country,

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and they're really key by the way
I want to talk about them.

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They would be saying, what have
you done to our nation? We gave

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you the basis of liberty and you're
casting it out right. As you mentioned,

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John, words do matter, and
the left has control of the narrative.

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They're controlling the definition of said words. Uh you know, we hear

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now, you know terms like deplorables
and white supremacists, you know these This

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kind of language is very, very
dangerous and it's the same type of language

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that crept into a German culture and
other empires before, right, right,

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But also they want us at each
other's throats. They don't want us getting

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together and saying, hey, wait
a second read the Constitution. I tell

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people, how does it start out? We the people us that who is

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the government? You, the American
people suppose to the people in Washington and

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whatever our representatives. They really don't
go by the way, you're talking to

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someone who is suited in out of
Washington, DC for over forty years.

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They don't really represent us. They
try to manipulate this because they want control

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and they want our money. But
the founding fathers would be well, I

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mean, George Washington, all of
Warren, don't do this. James Manniston

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wrote out Bill Rights you know,
learn your freedoms, you know, And

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it was James Madison who wrote the
bill right said this is an actual quote.

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We optimist trust all those in power. And why because government since the

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beginning of time have abused their power. Nazi Germany, so that you the

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Chinese today and our government. By
the way, he's stilling out millions to

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the Chinese government to work with tech
units and stuff in the army. And

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there's a senator recently who has come
out against that and said what are we

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doing here? And so we're really
a really bad mess that we're not we're

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not watching our government. And I
asked people, people say, well,

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what this? I voted for this? I said, what did you vote?

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When they said to candidate, did
you vote for anything those candidates are

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doing? And there don't. They
don't. We don't vote for folks.

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So we're basically a dictatorship disguised as
a democracy. As some people well,

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when you understand the objective of an
elected official, the number one objective is

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to get re elected. Yes,
okay, and so and how does he

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get reelected? He does so with
money, So he it's a paid a

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life situation. The paradigm is set
up for them to subordinate their interests in

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order to get money to get reelected. Now they may go out and have

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town halls and talk to the people
and say, oh, I'm for you,

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I'm for you. But you know, like the old saying, John,

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and what you reminded me of quite
often is follow the money, right

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right. I had a by the
way, a friend, an old friend

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who worked for one of the major
magazines in the country, but he was

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lured away to work for our Senator. He was there about two months and

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he gave me a call on the
phone and says, listen, John,

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you're right. What runs this government
up here is corporations, the lobbyists.

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They run everything money, money,
money, and you know again, there

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was a key study out of Princeton
University about four or five years ago.

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The study where money congregated in America
Washington, DC, and they the professors

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this is northwestern of Princeton University,
came to the conclusion that we are ruled

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by approximately five hundred and eighty five
billionaires. It's what we call the deep

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state. Now, that was a
laite memo. By twenty fifteen by FBI

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had said that the America was actually
ruled and run by the seventh floor group

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or who is the seventh floor group? You think it's the people with the

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money that's running government, and listen. He also said it shocked him to

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find out that congressman in century,
some of them, two to three days

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a week they spend raising money for
the next campaign, not representing us,

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trying to stay there and get their
money. All the things they get,

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the trips and limos, the golfing
and all stuff that we pay for.

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Folks, So you're not actually you're
you're paying all these taxes to the irs

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so that these guys in party and
it's basically it. Yeah, they are

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definitely taking you know, full advantage. But this is why you know,

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many Americans, John asked the question, going, wait a minute, they're

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only making one hundred and seventy thousand
a year. How are they able to

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leave office multimillionaires. We got about
fifty seconds left before the break go ahead.

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They hooked up. But the money
training and that's what you know again,

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and they go off and you know, they live very luxurious lives.

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They go to Wall Street and work
in big firms and stuff, you know.

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And that's the problem, folks.
And we're again, we are not

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in a representative government. I'm trying
to tell people that. And when we're

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born into the world, we're told
that we are and we're supposed to accept

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everything that goes on. But the
people who really made freedom free in America,

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where the people said no, I'm
not going to do this, Jefferson

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Adams, who down the list exactly. And the additional insidiousness of all this

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is that oftentimes they will go and
become lobbyists, right and that's a whole

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other topic, and we'll talk about
that on the other side of the break.

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Stay with us. We've got more
from the Constitutional Attorney of the one

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Well, welcome back. As we
were talking about the influence and the

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power of corporate America, it really
right now, John Whitehead, it comes

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under you know three organizations you got
Vanguard, State Street and black Rock over

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thirty trillion dollars twenty five thirty trillion
dollars of assets. And what they've been

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able to do in terms of control
is in a sense, what the Chinese

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have done with their people, and
that is that they've been able to affect

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a social credit rating based on d
EI diversity, equity and inclusion, which

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we have referred to as d E
because those who go d EI actually die

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d You see this in the woke
community and all the expense of these woke

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policies that have been brought into the
culture. Also, you've got SDG.

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Uh, that's another that's another I
mean EESG, I should say that is

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another influential marker that and it all
comes from the United Nations, the World

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Economic Forum, pressed down through uh, you know, through these three major

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investment companies that are holding Corporate America
hostage and saying, look at you've got

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to check the box here. How
are you doing with the LGBTQ community,

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How are you doing with the environments
and climate change? And as long as

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you're checking boxes, you're one of
the good boys. And if you're one

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of the good boys, then Corporate
America is going to you know, dole

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out some dollars for you. So
you know they have found a way to

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again in following the money John Whitehead, to influence corporate America right right in

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Corporate America, you know, works
really close. And all people don't realize

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that Amazon and big groups like that. They have billion dollar contracts with all

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the seventeen federal intelligence agencies or spies, FBI, CI N stay, they

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maintain the cloud for those their intelligence
clouds. But the key here is they

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have access to the information and the
FBI has access to all the information they

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collect on us. So we're in
a total surveillance state now, and that's

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what they want to do. They
want to make sure that we're watched every

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every every movement we made. If
we say the wrong word, and again

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I'll say that, you could be
labeled a domestic extremists. And some of

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these memos that came out years ago
under the Obama administration Believer or not,

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there were three memos, right wing
Extremism, Left wing Extremism, and Operation

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Vigial Eagle. Under right wing extremism, returning veterans were considered extremists, except

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they could go whacko or something,
so they had to watch all of them,

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which they do. I would take
a moment a little more and then

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under left extreams that I read the
list. I started laughing. Uh.

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One of the groups that are considered
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department of DHS Homeland Security was animal
rights activists. Now if you like your

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dog or obsessed the dogs or whatever
you are, say dogs, you can

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be labeled an extremists. Then the
third program, which was really scary,

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and I saw it in action with
some people that we helped, veterans.

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We helped with the Refernence to and
we take on a lot of cases where

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a nonprofit we raised money to pay
for expenses. In these cases, they

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watched the veterans. Now they watch
everyone that comes home and they make sure

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that you've seen. I had one
veteran by the way, I asked him

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a question. Some people have been
asking questions about this one area the country

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where planes were flying over ahead and
landing a little at people of parachuting.

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I asked him what was going on? He said, Oh, they're just

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doing simulations. What's happening in afghanistanding
countries like that? That It was a

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one paragraph email. He sent me
three sentences. The next day, the

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FBI showed up at his door armed
and told him that if he ever said

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anything like them again, that he
would be taken away. They would take

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him out of the country. They
threatened him. They were armed. So

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again, this is really scary folks. If you served in the military,

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you're being watched. And again I've
helped a number of veterans in this area

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where again they say anything they say
is used against them, they'll take him

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away. So what kind of country
do we have? The Land of the

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Free and the home of the brave. When they're labeling returning veterans extremists,

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they have trouble. Many veterans are
now committing suicide out in the Veterans Administration

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parking lots because they can't exact kind
of service. But listen at Walter Reed

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Hospital, Washington, DC. Believe
it or not, And I was told

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this by a former FBI agent.
He said, you wouldn't believe it,

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John, But they have gold elevators
for the senators in the congressman and the

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White House personnel will go up to
get care. But the veterans are setting

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out out in the chairs waiting in
the waiting room to get help. He

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said, what does that say about
our country? We're served by people who

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think you're little gods. I mean, that's a fancy. If we're not,

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John, that we're not served,
we're serving them, they should be

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serving us. Right, I wanted
to do it, Yeah, right exactly.

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That's why we're over the backs.
That's why we're more and more.

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If you're not, if if you're
keeping up with things, it's really scary

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how this country is getting armed and
right just to blow you away, you

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know. And that's why I tell
people that are getting in protest moving and

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it's stayed as non viott because the
First Amendment does protect that. You'll have

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a legal Kate. You have a
right to peacefully assemble and petition your government

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for a redress a grievances. You're
you have a right to do that.

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But that didn't happen. But that
didn't happen on January sixth though, John,

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exactly, Oh yeah, January sixth. I mean when you have people

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who were walking by outside, a
man with his little girl, the FBI

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shows up at his desk. They
were watching everybody around the capitol. Geo

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Fancy has called and we've held some
churches, by the way, during COVID

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where the government was watching people actually
going in and out churches and tracking them

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to see if they were doing what
was right, wearing masks or whatever.

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So we're in a moniacal governmental system
that's only gone to get worse, and

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we better wake up quick. And
again we're waking up means there are certain

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things we can do. We can
talk about later, but it's going to

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take a lot of work. And
you got to understand this. I've been

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doing this for over forty years.
You might get kicked in the head for

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it. I mean, you have
great men in the history Martin's, the

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King, Jesus Christ and others who
went out spoke truth to power. What

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happened to him? Yeah, exactly, let's get rid of them. What

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he's about JFK and others. I'm
I believe it. I really When when

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he said he was going to take
the CIA and tear it up and toss

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it to the Three Wins, I'm
sure there are people who are going,

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oh God, why did you say
that? For right? Exactly? Well,

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Richard Nixon. Richard Nixon said the
same thing, and he didn't last

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too long after that, did he. No, if you're going to resist

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the deep state, they're going to
come after you. And again I'm gonna

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say, they want your they want
control, they want your money, and

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the way to control you is to
watch you. And if you just step

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out of line. I mean with
these welfare checks. Today, people can

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call the police and they come to
up people's door. They just say,

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oh, he was on his front
porch waving up crazy umbrella and looking crazy,

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please show up. And I've been
joking with his kids. But doesn't

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matter. They show up and investigators
Listen. In earlier America, when I

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was growing up, by the way, in the nineteen sixties, that would

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have been considered insane. Today it's
normal, and people put up with us.

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So what we're putting up with we're
getting right exactly. Well, it

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goes back to what you said before, John, and that is partisanship has

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divided America. We've lost site of
the flag of the red, white and

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Blue and this great American idea as
Americans, we are united whenever this country

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is attacked or there's any threat,
and it brings to us together. You

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hear people coming out in the streets
at USA USA USA. But right now,

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the Democratic Party specifically has done everything
they can to defy us because they

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have realized when we're divided, they're
in charge, and they've got us exactly

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where they want us right now.
Uh, you know, ignoring what happened

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in twenty twenty, what happened when
you when you have peaceful protesters, you

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know, having you know, asking
for redress of their government because of an

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election that didn't didn't seem to make
sense. But for those that got the

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outcome they wanted, it made perfect
sense. I mean, and you know

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this thing was so fixed, John
that when you have Nancy Pelosi's daughter with

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a camera filming Nancy Pelosi on that
day on January sixth, it tells you

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that this was set up in so
many ways, wasn't it. Well,

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again, again I warned people,
because again I've written over with thirty books,

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I've studied the history of the FBI, in particular the FBI. You

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know, people don't realize this,
but the Jay Edgar Hoover administration ran the

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early FBI. They were fascinated with
Hitler's way Hitler operated in as police.

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They in fact centered one of their
key agents who went over and studied,

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and he came back and was really
impressed with how the Nazis rounded people up,

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scared him and got control. If
he saw, if you go back

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and look some of your histories.
During what's what's called the McCarthy here the

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nineteen fifties, the FBI was listen
Frank Sinatra, ers, Hemingway, people

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like that. Even the Beatle John
Lennon, because he was in a peace

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moved the FBI intigated him and actually
sit under in a bathroom under of the

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apartment he lived in and listened to
everything he said on telephone. This is

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the government we're dealing with. So
it's not a government that wants the free

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government. They want control. But
the FBI, by the way, and

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I'll say this is after operating today, what they'd like to do. They'd

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like to in fuel Trent movements during
the nineteen sixties, when the hippies were

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doing their e stuff, yea,
I'd actually have the rangingents grow their hair

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long, rollbeards, smoke pot exactly
and then undermine everything they were doing.

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And John, we gotta go,
we gotta go to break. We'll pick

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Whitehead, the author of Battlefield America
Constitutional attorney and John, as we were

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saying before we went to break here, the left is doing everything they can

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to control us. It's not about
serving we the people, it's about them

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being served. And this really,
it really has moved into a totalitarian type

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of force of government. And you
speak to this issue greatly in your book

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Battlefield America. Yes, listen,
a free people are not subjects. They

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have the right to speak truth to
power to all that subjects are people under

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total control of the government. The
problem with most Americans that I run across

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today, as long as they have
their screen devices and whatever, and they

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can watch whatever is on the news
media. And again I tell people,

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don't trust that. There are a
number of journalists have come out now and

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said there was shocked when they started
working with the major medias after doing other

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things and finding out that the ci
NSA and stuff better articles for New York

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Times, the big Twitter Twitter.
You got to be careful, folks,

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because you're being fed lies, manipulation
and it's all what wells what Obama referred

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to and he let the throw of
the big out of the pen when he

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said, uh, they use certain
things to nudge the American people. What

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are they nudging us to do?
They're nudging us again to basically support them

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and whatever they do. And listen, we would not have a constitution,

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We would not have a Bill Rice
if we if people like that, who

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would have founded our country. And
again, like I say, these people

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today, I'll tell you they would
be They would be lined up and basically

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taken to jail. They give you
a few quotes here from a one from

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Thomas Jefferson. It's amazing quote.
Listen, folks, what country can preserve

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its liberties if their rulers are not
warm from time to time that their people

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deserve the spirit of resistance. Let
them take arms. The tree of liberty,

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he said, must be refreshed from
time to time with the blood of

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patriots and tyrants. And Benjamin Franklin
nailed it when he said, this democracy

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is two walls and a lamb voting
them what to have for lunch. Liberty

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is a well armed lamb contesting the
vote. In other words, today,

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there's a reason they don't want you
to have any kind of firearms. Biden

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administration. None of these groups are
working to basically do away with any the

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right to even resist of government.
And here's the thing. The government is

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armed to the teeth all kinds of
firearms, and people don't realize this.

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So back during again the Obama administration, the Department Homeland Security had actually special

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made hollow point bullets. They say
at least one point six to million,

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probably more than that. They's been
given to all of their federal agents.

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But listen to this. This list
should scare you people. The IRS now

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listen to this, has stockpiled forty
five hundred guns, five billion rounds of

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AMMO, including six hundred twenty one
shotguns, five hundred and thirty nine long

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barrel rifles, fifteen submachine guns.
The Veterans Administration has eleven million rounds of

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ammunition, camouflage uniforms, right helmet
shields. Department of Health and Human Services,

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this is getting crazy. Listen,
yeah, they have four million rounds

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of AMMO, thirteen hundred guns,
five machine guns, submachine guns, one

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hundred eighty nine art nite firearms.
The Social Security Administration has secured eight hundred

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thousand rounds for their special agents.
The Environmental Protection Agency, what, let's

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do this, They have six hundred
guns. The Smithsonian has six hundred and

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twenty armed special agents. And now
NASA, who supposedly their main job is

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to shoot rockets into space and whatever
they had slot teams. What in the

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world do they need all this for? And people go ahead and no,

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no, you're it is shocking and
we're not even taking into full account here

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what Biden would want to do in
hiring eighty five thousand UIRS agents where the

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armed agents, Okay, exactly.
And it's a government that sets the taxes.

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We don't vote on it. They
come and get you if you make

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them wrong. To stay on your
taxes. Now, they've been discovered that

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the RS has been to the warrantless
searches of people's bank accounts. Okay,

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that was given to them under a
bush under the Patriot Act. They can

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go onto your bank now the government. Most people don't realize this, and

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the bank cannot tell you they've been
there against the law. And they get

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all your records. They can go
to your school where you went to school.

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They can look at all your records
and study you and what you did

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in school. Are trying to again
portray you as an extremist, and they

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can't tell you it's against the law. Listen, we're in such a hell

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of a mess with a government doing
this with all their guns and stuff like

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that. But George Washington warned us
when he said, do not have a

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standing army on American soil. They
went through that and they had to get

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shot down their houses, burn,
churches, burn and all those things because

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the gun that they were facing was
Terranius. They were warring homes, taking

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shooting their kids and doing all kinds
of strange things. And the same exact

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thing is repeating itself. Folks.
The demons have come back. And the

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reasons because we have allowed it.
Remember we're the government, right. Well,

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the thing is, I think people
fall into this false sense of security

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because they elect people into office,
but they don't realize they're people just like

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them, you know, and we're
all humanoids, were failed people, and

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that barring any kind of connection with
morality. This is why our founding fathers

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made it so imperatively, John,
that people were a religious people that are

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elected officials, that they had faith
because then they were anchored with a moral

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anchoring. And today here we are, we've turned our back on God,

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our elected officials could you know,
seemingly care less. There's no you know,

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God forbid. We have the Ten
Commandments in public schools, and look

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00:33:17.240 --> 00:33:21.920
what happened since the mid sixties.
How's that public school thing working out for

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00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:24.720
us? Now? Yeah? So
the point is, as I said,

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the idea, I see in God
we trust, but I know that's not

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what they go And they want you
to think that they're in there too,

435
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you know, but they're not.
No, they're not. It's a bunch

436
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of blogey. They're there for the
money. And what did Christ say?

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He said the root of all even
basically the love of money. And I've

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seen that with even private people not
going people once they get a lot of

439
00:33:46.359 --> 00:33:51.279
money, that change, they become
different people. And well, I keep

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emphasizing the people. One reason I
started the Rough Institute is that we're here

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on this planet to help other people. We have lost empathy, and they

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00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:01.279
drive that out of us by the
way through the media and stuff. Why

443
00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:05.759
would you care about that cred he
said the wrong word, put him in

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jail. And they're saying stuff like
that now and they don't understand that.

445
00:34:08.480 --> 00:34:14.840
Why we have free speeches, because
being a challenged on what you're saying creates

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critical thinking. They don't want you
to critically think. They want you to

447
00:34:17.320 --> 00:34:22.039
be indoctrinated. Unfortunately, the otriage
Americans watching one hundred fifty hours of television

448
00:34:22.039 --> 00:34:27.400
a month and screen devices. When
I see kids today in restaurants, all

449
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of them their parents are staring at
phones. I said, what's happened here,

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folks, And people like Google warned
us four or five years ago that

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they said, by twenty twenty nine, the document of singularity is going to

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be here. Artificial intelligence is going
to take over the human mind, and

453
00:34:42.599 --> 00:34:47.000
folks, it's coming. And Elon
Musk did warn us. He said something

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really good here, and he said, the artificial intelligence is going to take

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over everything. In my opinion,
it's already moved in that direction. By

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the way, when you call different
organizations or robot answers on the internet,

457
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you're being watched again. People are
seeing that they're shocked, but they speak

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out loud in their homes and say
a certain word, and all the products

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00:35:06.719 --> 00:35:09.800
or something they go on the phone
tournaments later and they're getting advertisements. So

460
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that's where we're at. They're watching
us. They want total control, and

461
00:35:14.679 --> 00:35:19.000
they don't really care about our freedoms. They don't want people to resist because

462
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resistance speaking truth to power may change. And again, if the American people

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were to get really together and said
we're gonna be the home of the free

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or the home of the brave,
you know, we're gonna we're gonna keep

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this country like it shouldn't be like
the founding fathers wanted. And you're right

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about Judeale Christian values. That's really
really key because Judale Christian values are love

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others as we love ourselves, do
unto others of them do under you.

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And what's that If you see your
neighbor getting abused by some government agent or

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something that happens, folks, get
out there and getting your local governments.

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Resist this stuff. You don't know
the Bill of rights, and you should.

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The Tenth Amendment says this. It's
really clear the local governments came a

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null actions of the federal government,
so they can tell the federal government get

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your agents out of our town,
get your grenade launchers, your m wraps

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and tanks. We are a country
that doesn't believe and that the government should

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be armed to blow us away.
But they are. So we're moving.

476
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Here's the over We're moved into a
state of martial law. We're already there.

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We only have I can say a
short time today exactly, Well,

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John, we're out of time right
now. We've got to go to break.

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the Constitutional Attorney. Founder President of

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the Rutherford Institute, John Whitehead continues
his book Battlefield America must read. If

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you do not have your hands on
this book, you need to get your

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hands on this book. And John
remind them where they can go in order

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to activate their citizenship because this is
what is needed. We you know,

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this idea of the silent majority,
this is really wrecking, you know,

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America because all it takes is a
few good people not to say anything.

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And you've got the America that we
have today, and I get it.

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You know, most people are busy, they're working, providing for their families,

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you know, dealing with inflation and
dealing with a crazy government right now

539
00:41:14.239 --> 00:41:16.320
that's gone totally woke. And uh, you know, we got to do

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00:41:16.320 --> 00:41:20.880
everything we can to protect our children
in the meantime, but we have to

541
00:41:20.920 --> 00:41:25.199
get back to first principles and realize
what is most important. Right. Well,

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00:41:25.239 --> 00:41:29.639
one thing that most people don't realize, the American Revolution was filmented by

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what was called the Black Regiment,
and that was the ministers. And another

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thing most people realized with the British
came into the towns, the first thing

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they burned was the churches. That
was because that's where the patriots met usually

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was in church building, a small
church buildings, and they did not want

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00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:49.719
wallf that of course, so they
burned out. They didn't want the local

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00:41:49.760 --> 00:41:54.119
communities getting together and saying, oh, let's wake up, folks. If

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00:41:54.159 --> 00:42:00.639
that happened across the land where local
governments people got together, people that know

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and want freedom, take over your
local governments and then start a union of

551
00:42:06.400 --> 00:42:10.480
local communities across the United States,
you it may help it. But another

552
00:42:10.480 --> 00:42:14.800
thing you kind of mentioned it earlier
is that we had to think about they're

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really pushing globalism heavily. Now they
know in groups like that, and the

554
00:42:19.400 --> 00:42:22.639
United States is actually participating. Let
people to realize there's a Chinese police station

555
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in New York City that's actually supposedly
rounding up dissidents from China. There's six

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in the country now John six in
the country. Yeah, it's the one

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that's been spotted in New York City, and there are six others. But

558
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also then you have these Confucius Institutes
that Biden is actually seeking to fund and

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00:42:39.480 --> 00:42:45.119
give more money to, that operate
in universities out of China that basically pushes

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Chinese propaganda. China is a country
that has concentration camps for people who say

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they're all the words, et cetera. And they have their social credit scores,

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which we're actually moved into now.
And that's where we're at today,

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and we're going to have to start
wishing back against all this because it's a

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00:43:01.719 --> 00:43:07.119
total way to manipulate people into following
whatever the government says, and that's what

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they want. They want you to
be afraid. And I'll always said it's

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the people. If a policeman was
pulling you over for whatever you did,

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you might have made a wrong turn
or whatever, and that car and you're

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afraid of the policeman, then you're
no longer a free citizen. You shouldn't

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be afraid of any government agent,
and no reason to be afraid of that

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00:43:24.480 --> 00:43:29.679
government agent. And so we need
to start thinking like the founding fathers and

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00:43:29.719 --> 00:43:32.039
the Founding fathers, like the Black
Regiment. The ministers, by the way,

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when they were speaking into publics,
but pull off their rogues and have

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a rifle, and that was it. They were given the signal. I

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00:43:38.280 --> 00:43:42.280
wrote a book called An American Dream, where I go into that more deep.

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I realized that as a young man, I went, WHOA. Now,

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00:43:45.559 --> 00:43:49.519
that's why you had John Adams of
people saying that the taisus written for

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religious people. He was talking about
Judeale Christian principles, which are care for

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others, etc. Don't put up
with bologny. Speak truth to power like

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Jesus Christ did. It's your principles
out there. Don't be afraid and be

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00:44:02.239 --> 00:44:06.960
shaking in your home because that's what
they want. And you can get rid

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of the swat teams. By the
way, there's some people in their community

582
00:44:08.280 --> 00:44:12.159
saying we're not gonna put up with
this. The Fourth Amendments says the government

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should not be entering your home unless
they have evidence of criminality or have a

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warrant. Well, they're crashing.
Listen, they killed a decorated marine in

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Arizona. Who they were doing and
please are doing a sweep of his neighborhood

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looking for marijuana, by the way, which is legal now in most places.

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Later, nine years ago, they
crashed through his door in mill of

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night. He had a wife and
two chione. He shoved him in the

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pausit behind him. He had his
honey rifle, the only weapon he had

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in his home. They crashed through
the door where they saw him. The

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00:44:38.599 --> 00:44:43.760
peace shot him over seventy times.
They were given qualified immunity on the court

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case they got off on that.
Now listen, if they're doing that kind

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of thing across the country and they
are get control of the people that are

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so armed in your community. They
have grenade launchers, they have all the

595
00:44:57.079 --> 00:45:00.599
kind of stuff that you only have
in battle country. By the way,

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I actually had an Iraqi major contact
me and say, John, I see

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00:45:06.599 --> 00:45:08.760
your stuff and it's shocking me.
He says, we have to get approval

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to enter anybody's home here where we're
at. I went, WHOA, that's

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not like America. No, so
we're allowing this crazy stuff to happen.

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And again our children. By the
way, let me one more thing is,

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I know this is an important show
and you got you got an audience

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00:45:24.079 --> 00:45:28.639
that I think can do something and
that is, kids are not being talked

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00:45:28.679 --> 00:45:31.880
to Bill rights. They I talked
to lawyers sometimes, I says, can

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you give me the five freedoms of
the First Amendment? They go, well,

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00:45:35.599 --> 00:45:37.559
uh, I went, well,
that's easy. Here we have a

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00:45:37.599 --> 00:45:40.719
pamphlet that you can go online for
any donation and get that you can read

607
00:45:40.760 --> 00:45:44.440
the Bill Rights. I was on
a radio show and some guy called and

608
00:45:44.559 --> 00:45:46.079
said, John, it works.
I talked about kids the Bill Rights at

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home. It's four hundred and sixty
two words of Bill Rights. So there's

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things you can do. Get your
kids know that they can be rebels.

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Where rebels or people who care about
others and they beat truth to power are

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they are not going to put it
with wrong being done in their communities.

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They're gonna say listen, or our
president stinks, or I don't like what

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the government's pushing on its Now all
this stuff we're seeing, and you know,

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George Carlin, the great comedian or
analysts, basically said, you know,

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political correctness is well really fascism disguise
as manners and oh you said the

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wrong where you're a bad person.
Oh really, listen. The key is,

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I'll say it again, speak back
to people in power. And that's

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why we have a first Amendment.
The first Amen said you have a right

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to peace of thisssembill partici government for
requst grievances. If you do that.

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They don't like that, by the
way, they hate it the government.

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That's why a lot of this January
sixth stuff and stuff we've seen. They

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don't want anybody resisting. But again
I will warn you they infiltrate movements,

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So watch out when you got a
movement, they may be in their standing

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things you shouldn't do and you can
get yourself smashed. Well, they've done

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this forever. I mean they infiltrated, you know, the tea parties.

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I mean here it is. You've
got the Democratic Party, you know,

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complaining about suppression of vote. Well, you know, for eight, maybe

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now ten voting cycles they suppressed the
tea parties. They all but squashed it.

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Remember it was taken off and the
real yeah yeah, And what they

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needed was, you know, a
tax exemption and Lois Lerner in the IRS

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and Barack Obama. Again, Barack
Obama is the one who's behind all this

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stuff, including the shenanigans that happened
in Ukraine with Joe Biden and his family

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business. And keep in mind that
you not only had Joe Biden, but

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you have Hillary Clinton, the Clinton
Foundation, John Kerry, and how many

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others. And uh, you know
again, follow the money, and I

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don't know how the money doesn't get
into the Oval office and into the coffers

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of one former president Barack Obama.
You gets said everywhere. Again. I

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knew Bill I do Bill Clinton in
their days. I was a student while

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he was a professor at the University
of Arkansas, and I knew him.

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I actually interviewed him to an interview. Can go online and read it.

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But uh, he had no money. He was just this guy. Now

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he's had a big foundation that does
all this stuff, environmentalism whatever, and

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they fund all kinds of stuff.
And where to get his money? That

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was because of a salary? No, no, no, no, yeah,

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right, the money gets behind these
guys. They get into the Wall

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Street chain and the deep state.
There's one thing I want to add to

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this before I have to leave.
Yeah, we got We've got it.

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We we got a couple of minutes
left. Go ahead. There's a real

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big study that came out of sm
University, Smuniversity MU SMU University in twenty

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eighteen that said they studied were cycle
paths gathered in America? They were.

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They were a little surprised it was
Washington, DC. Cycle paths of people

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who want to care about themselves.
They want money, and they want power.

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That's what you see in Washington,
DC. Folks, if you have

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a heart, it's time to get
in your global communities and start these UH

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movement towards global communities ruling. That's
what rule rules best, local communities,

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rule beat because you have a say
so on them. Exactly. Well,

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John Whitehead cannot thank you enough again. His book Battlefield America must have especially

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for these wearing times where we find
that John, that you know, truth

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no longer is a defense. It's
become an offense, hasn't it. Yes,

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speak power and you you go and
you're considered an extremist and maybe a

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terrorist. Well, John, again, thank you for being with us today

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Go and be blessed beyond your imagination