The Time of the Signs: A Chronology of Earth’s Final Events

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for choosing W FOURCY Radio. Well, hello and welcome. This is Bill

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Martinez and we are live. You
know, even if you have just a

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cursor re understanding of the Word of
God, you're looking at what's happening around

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the world today and going what is
what is happening with our world? You

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know, we've got wars, warmors
or wars. I think it's reported now

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that we have something like the thirty
two wars happening around the world right now,

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believe it or not. We see
disruptions in the climate, if you

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want to say, in the skies. The signs are giving us some indications

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and causing people to look up.
I think it's interesting that the knee jerk

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reaction is that people would look up, I go, what are you looking

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up for? You know, it's
like they're looking up for an answer that

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they know cannot be found at this
level and on this ground. Well,

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our next guest is a recognized authority
on Bible prophecy. His new book called

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The Time of the Signs of Chronology
of Earth Final Events. So if you

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have questions in your mind and you've
been thinking about some of these things,

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this is a perfect show for you
to be watching right now. Barry Stagner

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joins us. He's adopted a rigorous
approach, grounding his ascertations in the scriptures

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while examining contemporary global events in his
book In the Time of the Signs.

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This balanced presentation avoids the frequent air
of imposing modern circumstances onto biblical narratives.

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The book addresses a range of important
subject including Israel's role is God's time piece,

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the promise of the Rapture, and
a prophetic understanding of armageddon. Barry

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Stagner, Welcome to the show.
Good to have you with us. Bill,

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It's great to be on with you. Great to have you back and

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to be talking to you again.
Barry, congratulations on this book. This

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is a book that for some reason
I just sensed that you were waking up

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in the middle of night many times, you know, thinking about, you

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know, the signs of the time
and even thinking, well, how do

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maybe I need to look at it
a little bit different, look at the

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time of the signs, right,
yeah, you know, Bill, it's

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interesting. And Daniel twelve four,
Daniel was told to seal up the series

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of visions that he received, for
they were basically reserved for the time of

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the end. And you know,
he was told that knowledge will increase at

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that time. And we are living
in that time where things said even the

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one who held the pen and didn't
understand them, and now we're seeing them

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happen. And we truly are living
in a time of the science, which

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in and of itself is one of
the prophecies that we're watching be fulfilled exactly.

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And you talk about how knowledge is
so readily available, the Internet being

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what it is, you know,
so much power is in our hands.

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I mean, there wouldn't even have
been enough encyclopedias, you know, to

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cover the information that is available on
our cell phones today. Right. Well,

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you know, it's funny when you
go back to the creation of the

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supercomputer, you know, the general
feel was there'd be a need for about

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four or five of them in the
whole world. And now we've got more

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information tucked on our phones than the
first supercomputers had that the few who understood

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it could access. And you know, it's interesting, Bill, as I

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travel around and speak on prophecy,
one of the things that I cover as

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a subject is that we have transitioned
through time, you know, through the

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Stone age and the iron and bronze
and all these other labels that we've thrown

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at it. But we have now
moved, I believe, from the industrial

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age, the atomic age, the
information age, and now we're in the

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misinformation age. Yes, so much
presented it's just false Bible prophecy. What

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is it about Bible prophecy that has
just caught your attention and will not let

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you go? Well, you know
it was instrumental in me coming to faith

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in Christ. So I was raised
in a church, a wonderful Christian family,

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godly parents, just the ideal situation. But I was raised in a

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church, a denominational system that didn't
talk about this kind of stuff. And

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so when I was pretty young.
I was actually twelve years old. I've

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always loved to read. When I
read a book called The Late Great Planet

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Or and it just s Donne to
me. And it wasn't long after that

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that, even though I'd long been
a church attendee, you know, my

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whole life, I'd gone to church
short as it was at that point in

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time, it just made me realize
that that there's stuff coming that this world

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needs to know about. And you
know, God has offered a plan of

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redemption to all humankind. So the
Late Great Planet Earth was really instrumental in

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piquing my interest even as a young
man. Well, it's interesting how God

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unveils these things that we need to
know for the right time and season early

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on. I think our life would
parallel a bit here, Barry that I

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wasn't much interested in Bible prophecy,
didn't hear much about it in the church,

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you know, occasionally ran into it. And it's interesting The Light Gray

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Planet Earth. How you know that
book, you talk about a book coming

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into the culture with powerful annoys.
Because so many people were so affected by

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this, it's as if God himself
said, I'm going to give this to

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hal Lindsay's going to write this book, and this is going to open up

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the gates and open up the minds
of those who are called by my name.

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Well, you know, it's interesting
the timing of that inspired book,

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and it's based on scriptures. So
I think you are well along the right

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path by saying that God initiated the
timing of this. And you know,

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certainly the content is based upon the
things we're studying now and watching come to

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pass. But at that point in
time, there was a massive sense of

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the absence of purpose and all,
you know, in the hippie movement and

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all that stuff. So you know, you see the same thing happening today.

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Here we are now watching the world
that's completely lost its way, and

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yet we're living in what hell Lindsey
wrote about some years ago. So it's

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just God wants us to know what's
coming. And you know, Bill,

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I think it's so important that we
highlight the fact that Bible prophecy is what

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distinguishes the Bible from every other spiritual
or religious writing. God speaks about the

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future with authority that others can speak
about the president of the past, and

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everything he says is coming to pass
just as he said it would. No

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other God compares to our God,
right, Barry, I mean another God

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has the courage to be able to
call the you know, the end from

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the beginning of the beginning, from
the end. He knows it all,

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and he lays it out. And
as you say, with Bible prophecy,

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it's been estimated that roughly two thirds
of that which he had prophesied has come

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to come to realization one thousand percent. I often tell people, what do

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you think the likelihood that the remaining
third is also going to be filled?

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A bill in a thousand percent?
I think I'll put my money on God.

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Okay, my money, in my
faith, my my eternity. Let's

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let's put it that way, because
that's what it comes down to. And

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you're exactly right, that's exactly what
distinguishes his word and distinguish uh, he

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Almighty God from all others who claim
to be God. Uh. You know,

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they they can't even come close uh
to uh, you know, to

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God Almighty, Who's who's credited all
you You know, you think about this,

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Barry, and you know, you
look over his creation, you look

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at humanity the way he designed is. I mean, we're all walking miracles.

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I wake up every morning as I
mentioned you, I live here in

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Florida. I'm on the east coast, and I wake up, I overlook

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a you know, a lake.
I'm seeing you know, life abounding in

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uh in the in the ducks that
float on the lake, and uh you

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know, other foliage and and uh
and wildlife and and a and I got

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a bunch of crazy uh uh you
know, crazy geckos and you know that

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are It's unbelievable. You know,
the Bible talks about lizards that they're so

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common that they even live in you
know, in kings homes. And that's

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right, right, So I mean
here and I'll tell you I think these

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and there's something about it. I
was telling my wife, I think these

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uh, these animals here, I
think they're part uh you know, they're

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part termites because it sounds like they're
eating through you know, the fourth it's

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crazy, you know. But but
regardless all that being said, the magnificence

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of God's creation, I don't know
how you how you cannot see it.

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I mean you almost have to be
so stubborn to say I'm going to refuse

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to see the glory of God.
Yeah, you won't see what you don't

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want to I think that's really the
bottom line and the things we're watching and

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hearing about today. And I too, you know, look at the majesty

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of creation, goodness gott in a
desert and look at the night sky,

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and to know that God names and
numbers the stars, and that's that's quite

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a significant being who has such capacities. And you know, Bill, one

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of the things I think that's interesting
in just in light of you know,

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so many people who are critical of
the Bible savers written by Man. I've

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met a lot of people over the
years, and I've never met anybody smart

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enough to write this book, and
you know, just to talk about the

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future with such authority. But if
you just think about Jesus, the prophecies

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about the coming, the first coming
of the Messiah, you know, it

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wasn't that, you know, the
Bible didn't say, you know, some

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guy's going to come along and and
he's you know, he's going to be

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from this particular area. You know, the Bible gave specifics and it was

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only possible for the divine guidance to
speak with these things or speak of these

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things with such authority. I mean, think about the birth of the Messiah.

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He had to be born of a
virgin. There's one criteria. He

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had to be born in Bethlehem,
and he was born in Bethlehem, but

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interestingly he was known by the name
of another city. He'll be called a

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Nazarene. So here you've got one
born of a virgin, born in Bethlehem,

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but known as the Nazarene. And
then you throw on top of that

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that he was called out of Egypt. So you know, just the possibilities.

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It's not just some guesses or no
stradamus like predictions where exactly it could

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be this or it could be that. No, they are specific in there

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on target, and everything prophesied about
jesus first coming happened as written, so

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we can rest as short as you
said earlier, one hundred or one thousand

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percent everything written about a second coming
is going to come to pass as well.

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Yeah, without a doubt. We're
talking Barry Stagner, the recognized authority

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on biable prophecies, new book The
Time of the Signs. Verry, can

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you imagine what it must have been
like for Paul, right, you know,

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he has the confrontation, you know, with Jesus on the road to

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Damascus, and he is motivated to
look back on scripture and the very things

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that you just outlined right now.
And then some he discovers Jesus in the

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Old Testament that he's been studying all
his life, all these scrolls that he's

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opened up, you know, a
week after week and he has read and

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he's been taught by you know,
some of the top scholars and religious figures

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of the day, and he's going, oh, there's Jesus. There he

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is again there. Well, yeah, he did that. Could you imagine

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how the light and the revelation that
went off in his mind as he starts,

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you know, connecting the dots and
then he gets so excited that he

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out there and accepts God, God's
mission for his life to go in and

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take the gospel message, you know, to the gentile nations. Yeah.

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That makes a great point, Bill, because you know, one Corinthians two

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fourteen talks about the natural man cannot
discern the things of God because they are

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spiritually discerned. And it's like Jesus
conversation with Nicodemus who came to him at

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night, you know, saying,
nobody can do the things you're doing unless

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God is with him, and Jesus
immediately says, you're the teacher of Israel,

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and you don't know that you have
to be born again. And that

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was really the missing link for Paul
too. You know, he was reading

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through the eyes of a Pharisee and
years of Judaism and all of the forced

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interpretations of things that they were looking
for. They were looking for Messiah who

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would come in the manner that Jesus
comes again. They were looking for the

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guy on the war horse exactly,
you know. And so when Jesus came

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to fix their biggest problem, which
was their sin nature, they wanted nothing

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to do with that, thinking well, hey, we're Jews, we don't

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need that. So Paul, you
know, himself, experienced the blindness in

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part that he would later write about
and you must be born again. That's

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that's the story of the Bible.
Well, and the thing also at that

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point in time, and I've I've
talked about this quite often, Barry,

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is that missing your appointed time?
I mean, here Jesus is coming into

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Jerusalem. He looks over Jerusalem and
he weeps, and and what I sense

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when I read that is his heart's
breaking because the people that he came to

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deliver are missing their appointed time,
and they're a pointed time. You know,

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each of our appointed time with God
isn't necessarily you know, forever.

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Sometimes some moments are more significant in
others in God's economy, aren't they?

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Oh? Absolutely, And recognizing the
days that we now live in through the

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lens of Bible prophecy should create in
all of us an urgency for those around

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us who aren't willing to see and
or are unable to see because they've yet

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to receive Christ and have their eyes
open to be able to discern the scripture.

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But you know, Bill, one
of the things I think that's important

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as we recognize we don't know the
day or the hour, and it's silly

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to make predictions or set dates,
and we don't do that. But you

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know, we do know that Jesus
when he said no man knows the day

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or the hour, he followed that
with But as it was in the days

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of Noah social Habe, when the
Son of Man comes again and he gives

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some description of how life was on
earth as Lucra cords buying and selling,

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marrying and giving a marriage until the
day that they Know and Company entered the

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arc. And you know, we're
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were in Noah's So we're living around
people who are going to go into the

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tribulation, So we need to tell
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them know that there's going to guy
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geographic region of the Pax Romana,
the Roman Empire, and he's going to

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lead the world into a unity that
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crisis, allow the Jews to build
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type of market identification on your hand
or your forehead that allows you to connect

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commerce and all these things that the
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people now who won't receive the good
news of the Gospel when they see those

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things begin to be fulfilled, and
they'll check the rest of it out.

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I believe right. Well, that's
the big exchange, isn't it? The

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legitimate for the illegitimate? Here we
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rebuilding of a temple that really is
redundant and unnecessary if you think about it,

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Barry, because you know, if
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a temple of the Living God,
right, So why would you need a

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new temple. Yeah, exactly right. But if you're not discerning, as

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you said earlier, and that is
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mature enough. Is the Book of
Hebrews talks about. Is that if you

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are not mature in the faith to
see these things and you're still living as

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a child, even though you say
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out because you're not going to be
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I think this is where we are
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the planet, it's not just America, and it's not just but it's just

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so much of God's creation right now
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a way that they're being blinded and
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refuse to accept that. For example, you know you mentioned Israel, what

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happened with Israel in Amas. I
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Christian that does not acknowledge that what
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Almas, was an act of evil. Yeah, and yet the world is

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waving Palestinian flags, which is rather
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no country named Palestine. It's the
land of Israel. And you know,

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watching all these things in the just
the blatant ignorance, and it's a willful

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ignorance that we're seeing happening today.
People don't want to know. I mean,

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look at the United Nothing, you
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its positions and resolutions against Israel.
Yet they say nothing about China, they

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say nothing about you know, the
punishments in Saudi Arabia, they say nothing

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about Iran and or Cuba. And
yet everything it seems that they target is

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in relation to the nation of Israel, the chosen people of God back in

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their national homeland. So yes,
that we live in an upside down and

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backwards world and Israel is the centerpiece. There's just no question about that.

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And that's that's exactly what Zechari twelve
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And you refer to, you know, Israel being God's time piece. I've

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often said Berry, and maybe the
last time we talked about i'd share this

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with you that I believe that in
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nation again, it was as if
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set. And what we've been experiencing
since then are minutes and seconds, and

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I would dare say that the second
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seems to be moving with such rapidity, you know, to the degree.

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that when Billy Graham before he passed,

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was asked by a reporter says,
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last days? And Eiden has day, he said, these are the last

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of the last days. Amen.
And I agree with that assessment completely,

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watching the speed in which things are
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last day scenario as well. And
then you know, Jesus in at Matthew

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twenty four three to eight, what
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a discourse, he used the phrase
that can be translated as he said beginning

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of sorrows in our translations, But
that phrase means the commencement of birth pangs,

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and birth pangs follow a specific progression. And you know, when the

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natural course of things is left alone, you will find that the intensity and

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frequency of the birth pangs are going
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that's exactly what we've been watching.
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when the nation was founded again and
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back into the national homeland from the
lands where he scattered them. He said,

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I'm doing this for my Holy Name's
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prophet Amos in chapter nine and said, once I bring him back, they're

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not going to be uprooted again.
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that they're back and things are wrapping
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it's like, you know, for
for quite a while here, Barry,

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pundits have referred to you know,
I say, you know, the United

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States, but I say, it's
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point. Well, what happens is
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We're on the downward side of the
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we're picking up speed. So that's
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that we're beyond that tipping point.
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I mean, Barry, look look
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in the last couple of years.
I mean, can you imagine you know,

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having you know, sex changes,
and we're all pronouns sensitive. Now

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people are losing their jobs there.
You know, their way of life is

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being threatened because they've used the wrong
pronouns. And I mean, this is

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absolutely insane where we are. And
you know, it's no wonder. You

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know, people are getting so depressed. Suicide rate is on an increase by

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every measure, whether it's young people, older people, it's just it's just

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absolute chaos. And it's like not
only we back to the times and the

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days of no it's almost like we're
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the land was dark and void.
You know, in watching all the stuff

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that we've been seeing happen, it's
almost a digression that does go exactly to

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where you said, all the way
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this digression presented to us in Roman
chapter one, you know, where the

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creation by a divine being is denied, and you know this preference that we

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see today of the evolutionary process or
the march for molecules demand is what is

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preferred and the consequences that are recorded
there in Roman chapter one. Twice God

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gives them up to their decisions,
and then he finally gives them over to

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it and that's the point, the
proverbial point of no return, and I

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believe that we are there. We've
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And you know, God of course
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But you have to want to not
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after what God has provided in order
to not perish. But the world wants

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nothing to do with it today.
Each person wants to do what's in their

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own mind and the thoughts and intents
of their hearts. It is only evil

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continually. Well, you know,
going back to what you said earlier,

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it is knowledge is abounding, and
God's clear and stating that it is people

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without knowledge, without revelation, they
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what's hanging in the balance. It's, you know, back to that crossroads

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of life or death. That's what
stands before you. And I love that

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the Holy Spirit quickly, you know, doesn't even wait for you to answer.

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It's almost like no sooner does he
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right away. Choose life. Don't
even think about dude. Life, that's

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right, that's right, And look
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Death is the choice on so many
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or colloquialism that that's a fact people
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And I was reading some articles over
the past couple of days about,

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you know, this euthanasia thing that's
going on. Oh yeah, absolutely.

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You know, now you can make
the decision for a mentally ill person in

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some places and just simply end their
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you don't want to go through the
late stages of cancer and all those kind

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of things. So you know,
death is on the ballot of personal choicing

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days, and it's just such a
strange thing to see happen. Well,

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and it's getting to the point barrier. It's not going to be your choice.

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It's the government making the choice because
they figure, okay, we can't

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afford to carry you any longer.
You know, we're paying for migrants,

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we're illegal migrants, were you know, paying for all these entitlements. You

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know, we've had to after all, you know, we had to get

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elected and so we bought all these
votes and so you know, you're thirty

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three trillion dollars in debt and we
just can't afford you. You know,

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if you're not a productive part and
a cog in this republic machine, then

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you're unnecessary and we'll do like they
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we'll just use your body parts and
make sure that you're good to the

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very last drop. I guess.
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because there's been some reports of late
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per family is going to have cataclysmic
results by twenty fifty and they will not

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have a working age population, and
they're they're in deep trouble and they it's

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irreversible. And there's other countries around
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But you know, watching all these
things happen again just gives the credibility

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of the Bible such a great stronghold
and any person that really wants to know

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the truth, because it's reliable,
you can trust in it. And all

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that it says is going to will
come to pass is going to come to

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pass. Exactly is written. And
boy, we have more evidence now than

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any generation before us. And yet
what's happening. You know, the false

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religions are growing by leafs and bounds, and the Church is divided and you've

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got all these nonsensical things that are
pursued, like Paul said, and second

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Tivity chapter four, fabrications that tickle
the year. I'veferred over actual biblical truth

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and apostolic doctrines. And it's just
I'd say, today be a good day

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for the Lord to come get us. Amen, looking up and thinking,

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Okay, well, am I hearing
any trumpet blastes of time for the rep

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thing between me and you Berry.
I'll see you up there hopefully. You

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know, we'll have a fun time
on our way up. But you know,

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you mentioned China and the one thing, the other thing that's overlooked you're

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saying twenty fifty. And I think
the trouble they have right now, which

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nobody's reporting on, is the fact
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I mean, the male to female
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lot of men who, in the
natural course of their humanity, want to

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pro create. Well, they want
to have a wife. Well, guess

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what, there's no wives. There's
not enough. There's not enough women,

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unless all of a sudden there's some
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you know, for a woman to
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President g comes up with, you
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for the Muslims that hey, guys, if you die, you got seventy

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two virgins, you know, waiting
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you know, you know, I
see a lot of you know, future,

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if not current frustration that is not
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No, And there was a woman
who was being interviewed who had actually

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escaped the sex trafficking trade there in
China, and she was talking about the

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fact that because of what you mentioned
and the ratio of men versus women,

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that there are villages and towns that
where a woman is basically trafficked within that

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village so that men can fulfill their
sexual desires and there's no escaping in And

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it just reminded me, you know
what one of the products of the Babylonian

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system that has talked about in Revelation
seventeen eighteen is the bodies and souls of

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men, and this is exactly what
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You know, that naturally God given
drive, sex drive that he places in

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people, and you know, the
men because of what the decisions from this

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regime and how it has impacted and
created this imbalance. You know, they

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were boarding if they could determined that
the child was a girl, because the

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name is so important in China and
it's carried on through the man. They

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were just abort the child. And
now here they are and they've created you

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know this open the proverbial Pandora's box
where one thing has now caused something else

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to happen, including the sex trafficking
of of these poor women. Well,

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this is what happens when you interfere
with the natural balance that God had credit

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right. And this is what you're
interfering with. And there are consequences here.

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And you look and you see this
as another dangerous sign on the horizon

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that you you're going to have a
lot of angry young men because because they're

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not you know, fulfilling you know, their natural their natural desires. And

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so get ready back to your book
for just a moment here, Uh,

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I noticed that you you have the
forward by a mere Safari. How did

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you? How did you meet him? Here? Actually it was some years

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ago that I was asked by a
personal friend, another pastor that I'd known

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for years. Uh. He had
taken over a church in Cincinnati where the

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pastor had passed away, and then
they asked him to come and step in.

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And we were from the same church
in southern California, so we knew

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each other very well. He said, hey, would you come back and

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do a prophecy conference. I said, sure, I'd love to. And

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I was under the impression that I
was the only speaker. Yes, and

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which is quite an daunting task to
fill the day by yourself. But two

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weeks before he says, hey,
oh, by the way, the other

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speaker is the mer Sarfai. And
so we met there. And it was

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when I was teaching my excuse me, My wife was sitting right behind him,

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and I was teaching the Elemant on
the Elemant discourse. And I believe

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that, you know, while the
majority of it is related to the nation

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of Israel, I believe there are
things that apply to the church age,

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simply because of the mention of the
time before the flood. Right in the

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days before the flood, they were
eating and drinking, marrying and giving in

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marriage. And if you look at
Revelations seventeen and eighteen, the voice of

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the bride and bride Grimm has not
heard there anymore. And the merchants of

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the earth are morning because there's no
commerce, there's no buying and selling.

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So it has to be in relation
to the age, the end of the

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Church age, and that's exactly what
we're seeing happen right now. Well,

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afterwards, he told me, he
said, I've never heard another Calvary Chapel

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pastor teach that they all teach,
or many teach that it's just exclusively about

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Israel. And you know, just
kind of not just an interpretation that we

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shared, but I just feel like
the Lord just knit our hearts together back

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then, and we have the same
sense of humor. Neither one of us

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involved sensationalism in our teaching or writing, and so we're both very strongly against

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that. We think the Bible sensational
enough on its own. But it was

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from that conference in Cincinnati. It
wasn't long after that that we were talking,

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started doing stuff together online, and
now we've pretty much been all over

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the world together teaching Bible prophecy.
Well, you know, Barry, it's

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always fun when you're around someone that
has, you know, the knowledge of

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Hebrew, who grew up with it
or in the Greek language and the nuances

422
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of the culture. You know things
that here on the West, you know,

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you read the Word of God and
you only can get so much out

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of it. And then when you're
around somebody who can bring in that layer

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of background, goof, it'll blow
you away. I mean for me,

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it's like Jonathan Cohn has become a
dear friend of mine. I love being

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around him. In fact, when
when I first met him, I said,

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Jonathan, I go, the things
that you reveal to me as a

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Messianic rabbi, I go, you
chicken skin me All the time, he

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didn't understand what I meant when I
said that. I think it took it.

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I think it was like three years
later he finally understood. You know,

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I said, you know, goose
bumps and all he goes, oh,

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yeah, okay, yeah we had
He goes, I thought it was

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a Mexican kind of thing. I
guess, yeah, right, exactly know

435
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whatever, you know, Yeah,
it was, but exactly to be around,

436
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you know, people that had the
understanding of the culture, and all

437
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of a sudden, it's like,
you know, the parts of the Bible.

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It's kind of like, you know, when the first time I went

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to Israel, Barry, I just
so much of the Bible, and people

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tell you all the time, there's
nothing like go into Israel. Go to

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Israel, and you read the Bible
differently, right, as a result of

442
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actually being there on you know,
God's chosen land and then and around his

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people like that, It's just was
real special. And you know, and

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especially when you're around people that have
that background and understanding and you just go,

445
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oh, okay, yeah, that
starts to make so much more sense,

446
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right, yeah. And I like
the description of your first trip to

447
00:34:17.159 --> 00:34:22.320
Israel that it turns your Bible from
black and white to color. Oh yeah,

448
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I think that's just absolutely a fitting
description. And you know, for

449
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me the first few times I went
to Israel, you know, somebody that's

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guiding the tour or whatever always says
you're going to have a moment at some

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point in time, all this is
going to hit you. You're going to

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see something that's a trigger and you're
just going to be amazed at where you

453
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are and think about all that happened. And you know, most of the

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time, when you turn the corner
in the bus and there you see the

455
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dome of the Rock Mosque and the
Temple Mountain, all of that. For

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most people, that's the moment,
because that's such a familiar scene. But

457
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for me driving down in the Galilee
and seeing all the fields blooming and blossoming,

458
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and just the beauty of what was
once nothing but a swamp, a

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desolate place where, you know,
Mark Twain said, you know, even

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though the desert, the cactus doesn't
live there, you know, so,

461
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but to see it so lush and
beautiful and that is just an undeniable fulfillment

462
00:35:25.840 --> 00:35:30.039
of God's word. Well, and
how God has blessed the people to do

463
00:35:30.119 --> 00:35:36.719
that. You know, the the
innovation of irrigation there that you know came

464
00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:40.639
uh you know, from the Israelis, the Jews that were there, and

465
00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:45.039
they have been more than willing berry
to share it with people. Oh and

466
00:35:45.199 --> 00:35:49.679
for people who have wanted to embrace
it and enjoy the benefits. I mean,

467
00:35:49.719 --> 00:35:52.079
because you know, people don't realize, you know that it was it's

468
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just a flat out desert. Nothing
grew out there, and then here they

469
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come and they start making things grow
there. I mean, it was it

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was so desolate that even you know, the Arabs after nineteen forty eight when

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they told they were told they want, you know, they could be out

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there and live in the fact,
no, we want nothing to do with

473
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it, right, Yeah, And
you know talking about their innovation, and

474
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you know, so much of that
I think God inspires and points them in

475
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the right direction. And you know
what wasn't desert was marsh and you know,

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both were unfriendly to growing crops.
And just to think about the very

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practical wisdom, they heard that eucalyptus
trees are very thirsty. So they imported

478
00:36:37.199 --> 00:36:40.880
eucalyptus trees, planted them in the
swamps, and they sucked up all the

479
00:36:40.920 --> 00:36:47.000
excess water and turned the soil back
into rich you know, farmland, and

480
00:36:47.159 --> 00:36:52.280
it's just amazing and really to see
the land today, Yeah, I got

481
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to tell you my moment happened.
I was at the Western Wall, right,

482
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and we're there for Shabbat, I
mean, was the start of the

483
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Sabbath. And to watch the Jews
coming into the area there in the Western

484
00:37:06.039 --> 00:37:09.400
Wall, hand in hand, arm
in arm, celebrating, praising God,

485
00:37:09.559 --> 00:37:14.239
rejoicing, thanking God, you know, for the Sabbath day. Oh my

486
00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:16.960
gosh, Barry, that was just
I still see it to this day,

487
00:37:17.320 --> 00:37:22.800
and every time I do, it
enriches me. You know. It's one

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place and you know, having traveled, you know, not just with the

489
00:37:27.800 --> 00:37:32.119
mirror and for you know, conferences, but just as family, you know,

490
00:37:32.199 --> 00:37:37.679
doing a fair amount of traveling.
You know, you always usually at

491
00:37:37.679 --> 00:37:40.079
the end of the trip, you're
ready to go home and got things on

492
00:37:40.119 --> 00:37:44.760
the to do list and all that
stuff. At least I am. But

493
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I think Israel is the only place
where on the flight home, I'm thinking,

494
00:37:49.239 --> 00:37:52.920
when can I go back? Exactly? Something so unique about it,

495
00:37:53.760 --> 00:37:57.880
exactly because you know that you know, I was there for a week and

496
00:37:57.920 --> 00:38:00.840
there was still so much more and
we were you know, almost every second

497
00:38:01.199 --> 00:38:06.719
of our time was being orchestrated,
and it was it was a whirlwind.

498
00:38:06.960 --> 00:38:08.920
Uh and it was just like,
wow, you know, can we just

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00:38:08.920 --> 00:38:13.480
slow things down for a little bit, because I think one day they gave

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us maybe two hours to go and
you know, go do some you know

501
00:38:17.360 --> 00:38:22.880
shopping and you know, souvenir shopping
and that sort of thing. I got

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00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:25.000
to tell you, I was so
exhausted, I just take no teligentle map.

503
00:38:28.840 --> 00:38:30.039
I'm going to give a pass on
that. So but yeah, I'm

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like you, I can't wait to
get back there. You know, in

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00:38:34.280 --> 00:38:37.559
your book, you know, when
we'd mentioned this several times and that is

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the imminent return of Jesus Christ.
He said he will come again to judge

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00:38:42.039 --> 00:38:44.400
the living and the dead. We
know that there's going to be the rapture

508
00:38:44.440 --> 00:38:49.280
before then, but then there's going
to be that ultimate, the the ultimate

509
00:38:49.559 --> 00:38:52.199
time that he returns. And then
we head into the final chapter of the

510
00:38:52.199 --> 00:38:59.679
Book of Revelations with that in mind. What would you say, you know,

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to our viewers who still remain skeptical
of Jesus's return, Well, you

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know, there are certain prophetic elements
that if he doesn't return, are not

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going to be fulfilled, and that
disqualifies the Bible from being one hundred percent

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accurate. So it has to happen. He promised his disciples at the Last

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Supper, and you know they were
very discouraged. And he opened John fourteen

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with let not your heart be troubled. And you know that word translated is

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00:39:30.840 --> 00:39:36.880
let could also be translated as stop
stop letting your heart be troubled. You

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believe in God, believe also in
me. And then he describes the Mini

519
00:39:39.719 --> 00:39:44.039
Mansions and he says, I'm going
to prepare place for you. And if

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I go to prepare place for you, I will come again and receive you.

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00:39:46.760 --> 00:39:52.239
Under myself to where I am you
may be also, well, if

522
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there's no rapture, what exactly does
that mean? And how are we going

523
00:39:55.639 --> 00:39:59.880
to be received under himself as it? You know, it can't be that

524
00:40:00.039 --> 00:40:05.199
we all have to die, because
then that would discredit First Gridians fifteen exactly

525
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what Paul said. We will not
all die, but we shall all be

526
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changed. What do you do with
first Thessalonians four? What do you do

527
00:40:15.079 --> 00:40:20.800
with second Thessalonians two? And these
passages that are clear that the Second Testlonians

528
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too the hindering force of the Holy
Spirit. As you mentioned earlier, we

529
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are the temples of the Holy Spirit, exactly we and the spirit in us

530
00:40:28.840 --> 00:40:32.599
is restraining the rise of the lawless
one. We have to be taken out

531
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of the way. And then you
know, the dead in Christ, they're

532
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going to rise first, and we
who are alive and remain will meet them

533
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in the air. If there's no
rapture, what does that mean? You

534
00:40:44.519 --> 00:40:50.199
know all of these things. It
leaves a gaping hole in the scripture.

535
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If there is no rapture, the
Church, and certainly the second coming of

536
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Christ is you know, Revolation nineteen
eleven to sixteen. It makes it very

537
00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:04.400
very clear that he is coming and
we're coming with him. So how do

538
00:41:04.480 --> 00:41:08.679
we get there? You're right,
you know, if we didn't get raptured

539
00:41:08.840 --> 00:41:13.000
or caught up in a moment and
twinkling of an eye. So the Lord,

540
00:41:13.320 --> 00:41:17.559
you know, it's a it's a
biblical necessity that he come and get

541
00:41:17.639 --> 00:41:22.480
us, that he and that we
come back with him. So and the

542
00:41:22.519 --> 00:41:24.800
evidence is all over the place.
And again, if you believe tewod Timoty

543
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three sixteen that all scripture is given
by inspiration of God, then all scripture

544
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means exactly that, all scripture exacluding
John fourteen one to three and all the

545
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rest. Well, it's as necessary
as the empty tomb, isn't it?

546
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Oh? Absolutely yeah? And you
know you've got so many things that if

547
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you just think about the famous Christmas
passage, you know, unto us a

548
00:41:49.719 --> 00:41:52.079
child is born, unto us a
son is given, and his name shall

549
00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:57.320
be called Wonderful counselor Mighting God,
everlasting Father, Prince of Peace and of

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his government. There shall be no
end. What's he going to do that

551
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it didn't happen the first time he
came. He didn't sit on David's throne.

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He didn't rule the world. He
didn't rule as Palm too says,

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he didn't rule the nations with a
rod of iron. And he came back,

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or he came the first time as
the Lamb of God to take away

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the sins of the world. And
you know, Bill, I think you

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know what you mentioned earlier about the
Jews and how much wonderful information we gleaned

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from, especially Messianic Jews. If
you think about it, there was fifteen

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hundred years of passover lambs, and
what that was communicating to Israel was that

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innocent blood is required to cover sin. And now here John the Baptist sees

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Jesus and says, behold the Lamb
of God, he who has come in

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essence to fulfill what the passover lamb
was pointing to shed his innocent blood to

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take away the sins of the whole
world. So, you know, it's

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just incredible the things we find if
we sincerely investigate scripture exactly. And it

564
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had to be Jesus, Berry,
it had to be the Son of God,

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the perfect sacrifice to serve as our
propitiation, that perfect sacrifice that would

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satisfy you know, God's demand for
justice. Yes, well, you look

567
00:43:21.519 --> 00:43:25.679
at the you know, the beautiful
love story of Ruth and Boaz and the

568
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Kinsman Redeemer and that practice in Israel. You know, there were four requirements

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for one to be a redeemer,
a kinsman redeemer. One you had to

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be related, and the pre incarnate
Christ was not related to us. A

571
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relation to him was sacrificed in the
Garden of Eden when man fell into sin

572
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and consciously chose to disobey God.
You know, he also had to be

573
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willing to redeem. Jesus said,
nobody takes my life. I lay it

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down of my own accord. And
lastly he had or thirdly, he had

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to be able to redeem. He
had to be able to pay the redemption

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price, and the redemption price was
innocent blood, and all the rest of

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us have sinned and fallen short of
the glory of God. And the fourth

578
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qualification, and the final qualification is
he could not be indebted himself. Jesus

579
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did not owe the wages of sin
exactly because he was sinless. So he

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met the beautiful qualifications of the kinsman
redeemer. And that required, as you

581
00:44:36.119 --> 00:44:40.199
pointed out so wonderfully, his humanity. He had to come and it could

582
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only be Jesus God with us Amen, Amen, very God. About four

583
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and a half minutes left here in
the book, you lay out a basic

584
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chronology of the end times, which
is important because you know, as we

585
00:44:59.360 --> 00:45:02.519
talked about the age of information,
and now we've entered into that age of

586
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misinformation now more than ever. We
are called to be like the Bareans or

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00:45:07.679 --> 00:45:12.519
the brothers isa Gar, who were
students of the times in the Bible that

588
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we read about, so that we
would not be caught off guard, that

589
00:45:17.639 --> 00:45:22.800
we would be true discerners of the
truth of God. This is why a

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00:45:22.880 --> 00:45:27.760
biblical worldview is so critical, especially
at this time and season. Well,

591
00:45:27.800 --> 00:45:30.360
you know, if you think about
some of the things that are developing currently

592
00:45:30.960 --> 00:45:36.400
that we will see, and you
know, the tribulation doesn't last long enough

593
00:45:36.400 --> 00:45:39.000
for some of the things to develop. There has to be a mentality that's

594
00:45:39.039 --> 00:45:45.719
taken into it that pre existed of
the tribulation period to be willing to see

595
00:45:45.760 --> 00:45:52.599
those who are against the supposed greater
good that the Antichrist has brought to be

596
00:45:52.639 --> 00:45:54.800
people who are worthy of death.
So you have to have that kind of

597
00:45:54.800 --> 00:46:00.320
mentality going in to support it when
it happens and we need to know that

598
00:46:00.880 --> 00:46:06.079
those types of things are precursors to
what's going to be fulfilled then. But

599
00:46:06.280 --> 00:46:10.320
you know, the other thing I
think that's interesting is we may see Isaiah

600
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seventeen to one fulfilled. We may
see the destruction of Damascus that may be

601
00:46:16.960 --> 00:46:22.320
the catalyst. Well you look at
it now almost it almost seems like we're

602
00:46:22.360 --> 00:46:27.440
almost maybe one bomb away from from
it being decimated, right, Yeah.

603
00:46:27.599 --> 00:46:31.199
Well, you know it's interesting if
you look up a drone footage Damascus on

604
00:46:31.280 --> 00:46:37.239
YouTube, there's multiple videos that do
a flyover and it is all but a

605
00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:42.559
ruin is heap. I mean,
it's amazing to see. But you know,

606
00:46:42.880 --> 00:46:46.920
with watching these things come to pass
and not losing hope or falling into

607
00:46:47.079 --> 00:46:52.960
fear is something that's exclusive to those
who know what's coming exactly. Yeah,

608
00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:54.880
That's why I think it is so
important that we know God wants us to

609
00:46:54.920 --> 00:47:00.280
know. He put it in his
book, well, laying out just point

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by point, base is Berry.
If you would, what are the next

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things to happen in God's timeline?
Well, I believe, as we talked

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about it at the beginning of the
show, the rebirth of the nation of

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Israel got the clock moving, and
now we're seeing multiple things happen simultaneously.

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One, we are in the throes
of the great falling away the apostasia in

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the church. There's a replacement of
truth with fables. We're watching that happen

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as we are watching the Zachari twelve
for twelve to three prophecy moving in a

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fulfillment direction, as the world is
turning against the nation of Israel. I

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believe that what we could see next
is the Isaiah seventeen to one, fulfillment

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of the destruction of Damascus and the
launch of the Ezekie War. That's possible,

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but I do not believe that we
will see the end of the Ezekiel

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War, because it is a supernatural
wrath of God that brings it to an

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end, and we have no appointment
with that. We'll be off the planet

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before that happens. So it could
be that, you know, we're watching

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all these things developed that will reach
their ultimate fulfillment during the tribulation. We

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could see the Isaiah seventeen to one. We could see the start of the

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Ezekiel War. But I believe before
the Ezekiel War ends, we would see

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the rapture of the Church because it's
God's direct wrath that brings it to an

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end, and so we'll be gone. And then you know that way.

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One thing I think people off and
overlook is that in the Ezekiel War,

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God is going to destroy those invading
armies and leave them dead on the mountains

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of Israel. And that accounts for
the vast majority, some ninety five percent

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of radical Islam, right, So
God's going to destroy radical Islam. And

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then you know, having watched that
happen, having seen the God of the

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Bible defend the nation of Israel,
who's going to say the Jews can't build

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a temple right, and we won't
be here for that either, And the

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Antichrist will come forward with the plant. So you know, once that happens

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in the rest, we'll just fall
right into places chronologically described in the Bible.

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Well, ladies and gentlemen's right there
in his book The Time of the

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Signs very Stagner's new book. We
need to be people of knowledge, of

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spiritual knowledge, spiritual issues that are
happening right before your very eyes. It

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is what's causing you to look out
because your redemption draws nigh. Very again,

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thank you so much for being with
us. Your book available in all

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the usual places right, yes,
it is. It's on pretty sale right

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now. It comes out January sixteenth. And if the audience would find it

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in their hearts to pre purchase it
right now, that would be so helpful

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because that increases the possibility of it
winding up on a shelf at it Sarget

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or Walmart or one of the other
brick and mortar stores. Well, definitely

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this this is a book for our
time that you need to read and be,

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you know, have it be part
of your reserve of knowledge and the

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truth from a biblical worldview the time
of the signs. Very Stagners bear a

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guest Barry. I cannot thank you
enough God blessed, thank you so much

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for being thanks for having me.
You got it. Our thanks to Barry

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Stagner, who's a pastor in Orange
County, California, in Tustin. He's

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a recognized authority on Bible prophecy.
And again, the book will be available

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on the nineteenth. You can buy
it for pre purchase. I highly recommend

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that you do so. Again.
Our thanks to you as well for being

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with us and sharing a part of
your day and to hear more about this

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most important subject, the time of
the signs. May God bless you and

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keep you. May make his face
shine upon you, may be gracious unto

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you and give you His peace.
Thanks again for being with us. God

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blessed was, predicts the pub