The Third Week of the Israel Hamas War Update

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Radio. Hy welcome. Great to
have you with us sharing a part of

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your day. I'm Bill Martinez and
we're going to be talking about the third

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week of the Israeli AMAS war update. Our guest Joe Shemmel is going to

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be on with us in just a
moment. He is a pastor, a

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keynote speaker, also a film producer
and author of a new book that I'm

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going to be excited to be shared
with you as well, called Sparky the

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Broken Mirror Short Story. It's for
the entire family and it has to do

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with our identity. It is a
book, it's in the comic form.

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You might say, it's really well
done and well produced, and the pictures

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very well illustrated. It is going
to be one that the kids are going

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to love and parents and grandparents are
going to love too, because you get

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to sit there and read read it
to them and help them understand what their

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identity is all about and where their
true identity comes from. So meanwhile,

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let's bring Joe Schmmel on the show. Joe, Welcome to the show.

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Good to have you with us.
It's great to be on with you today,

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Bill Well, week number three of
the Israel Hamas war. And as

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is noted, in any kind of
war situation, you get the fog of

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war, a lot of misinformation things
out there. People still believing that the

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bomb that was detonated in the parking
lot. In fact, they still believe

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it was a hospital. But it
was in the parking lot of the hospital.

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Hamas is saying for sure, if
five hundred people were injured, I

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mean, it's interesting, not four
one hundred and ninety five or ninety six,

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but five hundred, five hundred people. So that's suspicious to begin with.

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In fact, it was, and
they did lie to tell us to

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say that it was a hospital.
And of course, look at all the

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problems that caused. And you know, true to form, our mainstream media

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didn't help us by betting the story
either. They just can you believe it?

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They just took a Massa's word for
it. Yeah, that would be

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the BBC, the New York Times, that would be Politico, that would

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be you know, of course,
Washington Post and a bunch of other groups

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like that. But Bill, do
you seriously believe that a group like AMAS

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that would chop the heads off a
little babies and so forth and just torture

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people would actually lie? Well,
of course not. And of course now

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they've come up the different language of
you know, not talking about them being

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decapitated. Now you've got to be
sensitive about using the D word. Now

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you got to just say they're headless
or something, I mean, some other

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euphemism that they've come up with.
I mean, look at this is just

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absolute rank disgusting, inhumane, just
out and outright murder. There's there.

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I don't know how many other words
you want to put to it. But

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it was horrendous what they did.
In fact, so much so Joe that

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less their narrative went out, their
lie would went out over the truth.

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The IDF said they invited the press
corps. Look at come in, We're

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going to show you bodycam footage of
you know, what they did to the

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citizens of Israel. Right, yeah, it's amazing too. You had a

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writer I think was for the New
Yorker who was claiming that, well,

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we should say these babies were beheaded
and so forth, because he said that

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may not be the proper language either. He goes, we didn't find you

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know. He admitted there were several
babies found without heads, but supposedly they

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weren't beheaded. I mean, I
hear you, because its heartbreaking, is

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frustrating because Hamas a big part of
their warfare here as you know, and

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their surrogates like Hesbola, you know, and others of Iran, which has

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been propped up, you know,
with Obama and then now Biden with the

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same foreign ministers of foreign policy deciders
in both administrations, Obama coming out to

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chasing Israel, warning them, you
know, being very very careful, as

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if they wouldn't be more careful than
just about anybody going in. Actually,

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but it's it's really heartbreaking because Hamas
is really depending on the propaganda machine,

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and it's incredible when you have the
mainstream media. In fact, we shouldn't

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be shocked, but it shows how
far the ball has moved toward an agenda,

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because you know, years ago,
they wouldn't even you know, you

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wouldn't see this much propaganda. Now
you have even Congress women, you know,

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claiming that Israel, you know,
still upholding the bomb narrative that it

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was Israel, and the South about
that too. Is Israel was able to

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show footage of the missiles going off, but as you probably heard, I

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listened to the surveillance between a phone
call between two Hamas men admitting saying,

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yeah, this was one of our
own you know, it's one of our

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own countries. That's heartbreaking because that
showed Israel's surveillance capabilities and they had to

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break that out to combat the propaganda
in even the US and worldwide propaganda.

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And at the same time, that
gave a big clue into hamas As to,

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oh, guess what they're listening to
all our phone calls, which is

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going to cause more casualties in the
future thanks to our mainstream media. Yeah,

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exactly. It didn't help. And
meanwhile, we had a president and

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root to the Middle East to meet
with these Arab neighboring nations to see if

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they could somehow get on the set
the same page, and that got compromised,

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thank you very much. And then
of course then look what happened domestically,

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all the you know uproar and protests
and everything else. And of course

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all this what this does, Joe, it really reveals who is on our

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side and just how ignorant people are. Especially I say, you know,

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for these university kids, I feel
for them. I mean, it's one

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thing I break them out a little
bit. Joe. I don't know about

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you, but you know, I
think of the you know, American kids

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who have been influenced by the peer
group. Here, we have imported hatred

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into our country. And what's become
part of the American kids peer group.

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Are these Palestinians. Are these Mid
Easterners who were raised you know, this

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has been going on for generations.
Some commentaries say that this is what they

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call ancient herod, ancient hatred.
It's been going on for the millennia.

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These kids, you know, as
soon as they come out of the womb,

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they're taught that they must hate Israel
and they must annihilate Israel. And

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so then you have our own kids
chanting, you know, from the river

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to the Sea, and I go, well, do you guys even know

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what you're talking about? Right right? Yeah, that's fascinating, because yeah,

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what is that chant? That chant
is basically about not leaving in harmony

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with Israel, but about taking Israel. And actually many of them have talked

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about pushing her into the sea exactly. I think what you're hitting on their

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bill is so important because even conservative
shows sometimes I'm like, they're saying a

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lot of good things, but I'm
like, please, every ten minutes,

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you should let people know what Hamas's
charter is, you know, as their

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charter calls for the utter destruction of
Israel, and they quote a hadith by

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Mohammed. This is in Hamas's official
charter and they this has been their plan

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ever since Hamas took over the godsa
strip and that charter basically calls as a

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hadith, which is a traditional statement
that's considered like scripture, second only to

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the Koran to Muslims, which calls
for Muslims to, you know, to

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bring the day of judgment. The
day of judgment can't come from a lot

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till Israel's destroyed, and that the
rocks will cry out and the trees will

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cro out and say, oh,
Muslim, there is a Jew hiding behind

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me, come and play him.
I mean, that's read in mosque all

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over the world. And how can
you make peace and even negotiate with people

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whose desire and their plan is your
ultimate destruction. It's interesting that they would

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use the analogy or the metaphor of
rocks and trees crying out when Jesus had

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talked about if he quieted the people
of Jerusalem from honoring and praising him,

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that even the rocks would cry out. Right, Yeah, it's interesting.

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That is interesting because everything you're hitting
on something right now that I think think's

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really fascinating and a bit foreboding,
and that is that Islam has basically twisted

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everything the opposite so often it becomes
the rocks crowd basically for this false god

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Allah who Muslims. You know,
the Koran States does not have a son.

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They they're Jesus. A lot of
people say, well, yeah,

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Aslam believes in Jesus, Like,
no, they don't. They're Jesus is

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called Isa. They claim he's the
Jesus from the Bible, just because they

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want to get kind of traction people
need to understand is Lom came over five

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hundred years after you know, Christianity, you know. So what's a fascinating

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about this is from the very get
go, they've tried to usurp God's throne.

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So Satan's cast out of God's heaven. Right, the best place he

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could have is a temple mount.
Now it's interesting there because the Bible says

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the Antichrist will reign on the Temple
Mount. And it's interesting when you look

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on the Temple Mount, and I've
been up there a number of times.

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You're not allowed to bring your Bible
up there. It's patroled the police by

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Islam, not by Jews. You
know. You up there, and there's

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a Dome of the Rock, the
Alaxa Musque, you know, the Golden

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Dome, the Alls of Musk,
and bill on both of these buildings it

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states Allah is God and he has
no son. Now this is interesting why

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this declaration, because the Antichrist will
deny the son of God, and the

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Bible says at one John two eighteen
it says that this is the Antichrist,

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the one that denies the Father and
denies the son. And you have on

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the Temple Mount. And my reading
of the Book of Revelation in Matthew twenty

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four fifteen, the Book of Daniel
is that there will be an Antichrist that

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will seek to sit in the Temple
of God show himself that he is God.

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And you have this very doctrine of
Antichrist right there, laid out and

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first gone. And it's fascinating,
Bill because the Gnostics, the Gnostics were

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the biggest threat to the early Christian
Church for the first three centuries of church

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history, and that was their deal. Is Jesus was just a way shower

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to give us gnosis. And Islam
was influenced by gnocissism, and that was

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what John was dealing with proto gnocissism
and sip early nacissism in the first century

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what mutated into is Lam with those
same doctrines. Now, this is what

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I think is incredible that in version
you're talking about you and I know we

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know reading our Bibles, Abraham,
Isaac Jacob. Well they say no,

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Abraham didn't offer up Isaac. Now, Temple Mount is in the area of

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Mariah where God offered up or Abraham
was called the Opera of Isaac. God

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stopped him of course, the picture
of what Jesus would do for us.

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They say, no, it was
Abraham offering of ishma and we are the

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seed of Ishmael. So everything gets
inverted. Now it gets crazier when you

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look at the inversion of the coming
Antichrist and the false prophet. And this

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is fascinating to me. They have
a coming leader with Jesus, but not

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our Jesus. They say, the
Bible says there's a coming Antichrist and a

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coming false prophet and they'll be defeated
by Jesus. Well, it's interesting,

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that's all inverted for Islam. The
coming Antichrist they call the Mahdi and they

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say he's going to be the our
Christ and he's going to go into Jerudalem,

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and he's going to make the temple
mount his throne, and he's going

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to make a covenant for seven years. I'm like, you guys are taking

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the Antichrist and call him Christ.
And they says that their Isa Muslim say,

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our Esa is Jesus and he will
support the Mahdi. And I'm like,

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well, I read the book Revelation. It's a false prophet that looks

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like a lamb, looks like Jesus, but he speaks like a dragon Satan's

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words, that supports the Antichrist and
tells people to take the mark of the

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beast. And at the end of
the seven years, they say, our

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Mahdi will be destroyed. Well that
the Bible says the anti curates to be

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killed after that seven year covenant.
And they say, but he's going to

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be fight the Daja and the da
jaw at this it will be Christians Christ,

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but he'll be defeated. Well,
the Bible shows us Revelation nineteen that

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Christ defeats the anti Christ as a
false prophet, says the beast will be

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taken with him, the false prophet
that will be thrown alive into the lake

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of fire. But it's fascinating how
everything's inverted when you read the Book of

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Revelation. How are Christians killed?
They're killed by having their heads, They're

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beheaded. What happens when the two
witnesses? And Revelation eleven are when the

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two witnesses are killed God's witnesses.
It says they'll send gifts to each other.

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I mean, who sends gifts each
other after committing murders? Right?

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This is very very interesting yes,
it is. Yeah. And the thing

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is because if you do not know
the difference between the legitimate and the illegitimate,

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you're gonna fall prey to the fake. And we know that Satan can't

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create anything. All he has done
from time and memoriam is take God's glory

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and try to steal it and reinvent
it in his own terms. And so

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it's so important. And I keep
using this analogy with our audience, Joe,

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and that is that you know,
it's like bank tellers. Bank tellers,

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what they do is they don't study
the counterfeit, they study the legitimate.

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And I think there's something of caution
that we should appreciate as people of

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faith, is that make sure that
we are studying the legitimate, so that

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we know the difference, that we
hear the voice of the shepherd, as

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Jesus said, you know my sheep, hear my voice. So you know,

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here we are, we're coming to
the last of the last days.

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The things we've been warned about,
the false prophets, those that would be

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coming in the name of Jesus,
the anti Christ, the fake presentations of

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this, and here we are.
And in the midst of this, of

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course, I is warning that there
will be that day when good is called

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evil and evil is called good.
And my goodness, we're right smack dab

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in the middle of it right now, are we not. Yeah. Absolutely.

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And what you mentioned about, which
is a great analogy that can only

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happen, is if you don't know
the genuine from the counterfeit. A friend

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of mine was trained by secret service. You know, I thought it was

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always fb Irison when he trained,
But it's a secret service that teaches how

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to discern the original, like,
for instance, hundred dollars bill authentic from

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And he holds up because he works
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counterfeits, hundred dollar bility stars showing
me all the images that he has to

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look at to him the second nature
because he knows what and he says,

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it's so hard to duplicate these things. And he says, I just look

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for these things. And I thought, you know, it's interesting. You

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know, we need to make sure
that we know the original. Do we

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know the Bible? Do we know
what God's word says our ultimate authority?

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And it's like if you and what's
happened today is there's all these counterfeits and

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they haven't studied the authentic so they
get deceived so easily because you and I

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know, even the whole argument about
you know, Gazza, who's in there

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right now? A lot of people
think, oh, well, it's been

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this ancient nation that's been there forever, and they don't realize a lot of

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these young kids Tai University, they
don't realize it's not a nation, it's

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a territory exactly to belond the Lord
belongs to Israel. And what they don't

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realize either that Hamas and those that
occupied the Gaza Strip, Israel says hey,

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we'll let you live there and everything
else. Their infrastructure has been destroyed

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for the most part because Goza is
using all that money to try to destroy

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Israel, even cutting their sewage pipes
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Exactually, you look at the ancient
Philistines, those were the folks that

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were there. Somebody could even look
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the Gaza Strip's history. Even they
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haven't been there, you know,
from time immemorial. They originated of course

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in Arabia. The Philistines were there
after Israel had already had the land.

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About four or five years later they
came in. But right now that they

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came from Greek, they came from
Crete. They came from those islands in

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those areas, and there they have
no gene pool. Now there's no Philistines

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there anymore. But it so happened
that Hadrian getting upset with the Jews after

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deporting them in seventy a d.
That would be under Titus and and Ves

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being and so forth. They were
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there, and there was there was
a you know, a revolt by Barra

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Copah false Christ. And then Hadrian
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five. But then he changed the
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philistine, you know, which was
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pejorative basically, right, that's right. And so here it is. Now

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you've got the the Palestinians, uh, you know, basically robbing the culture

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here, you know, appropriating culture
and tanking on that. But the other

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thing that I find quite curious,
Joe, is that look at the neighbor

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Arab nations. They don't want the
Palestinians Egypt doesn't want them, Jordan doesn't

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want them. I mean, you
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What does that tell you about this
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makes that's a powerful question that people
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for two reasons. I think the
first reason is because these their kids are

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born from childhood to just kill and
destroy and hate, you know. That's

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probably the first reason. The second
reason is some you know, there's twenty

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two Muslim nations, I should say
there's twenty two Arabic nations, but there's

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about forty nine Muslim nations with that's
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why aren't they assimilating them? You
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think many of these Muslim nations,
especially for instance, Iron for instance,

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and others, want them to stay
there as a tool no matter what happens

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to them, kind of like they
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about the people obviously, Yeah,
they're using the same model that Hamas is

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using with the Palestinians. You know, as you say, there's some Palestinians

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that are fair minded. They just
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their family, live in peace.
But meanwhile they've got this knucklehead government that

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is taken over, that is warring
with the neighbor and then their neighborhoods and

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all their infrastructure is getting decimated.
What because not because of them, but

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because of Hamas. But they need
to step up, you know, and

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kind of like you know, I
keep uh, you know reading I read

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the story about joe Ab and Uh
and Sheba, if you recall, and

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that was when joe Ab was chasing
down Sheba because Sheba left David the king

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when he was coming back to Jerusalem
after you know, the akub by Absalom,

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and Sheiba took off and it was
obvious he was going to be a

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big trouble maker and and David said, go get him because he's gonna be

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worse than Absalom. Well, you
know, eventually Joe Ab chased him down,

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chased him into this compound, and
the people were going freaking out because

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these they see joe Ab, here's
the mighty warrior, and they're thinking,

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we're you know, we're toast here. You know, what do we need

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to do? And a wise woman
was smart enough to yell out to joe

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Ab, hey, what do you
want he says, give us the head

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of Sheba and we're out of here. Well, a couple of minutes later,

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the head of Sheba comes flopping over
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peace comes back to that village,
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And I think there's some some similarity
and some opportunity here for the Palestinians

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who were peace seeking. Is that
for them to step out of their traditions

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and to finally kick out the troublemakers
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save save those who have been kidnapped, and to save the the land,

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and then I think they have an
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continue to leave themselves as the foil
of these hamas operatives who are enjoying life

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in these five star you know facilities
there and cutter and in Turkey, and

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be the ones that take all the
bullets and the pain and suffering, well

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then you know, to me it's
a clear But like anything, you know,

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freedom comes with a cost, doesn't
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And that's a very interesting picture there, very insightful. It's interesting because

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there's a picture there too, David. The coup was Absolom is the wrongful

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king. It's like a picture of
the anti Christ. David's a picture of

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Christ because Jesus is the son of
David. It's interesting that before David goes

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back, there's two men that go
ahead of him and announce that he's coming

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back to Jerusalem, which I think
is the picture of the two witnesses in

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revelation. Yes, the son of
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So it's an interesting tie in that
you gave that I have never seen

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for that's very interesting, and it
does. It's hard, it's heartbreaking because

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there used to being brainwashed as to
hate Jews so much. Uh, you

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know, they many Muslims, they
they hate Israel and Jews more than they

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love their own children. That's what
the strap bombs their children. One of

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the Prime Ministers of Israel had made
that point to pass it that that's pretty

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heavy, but it's really important that
people understand there's a spiritual war Israel.

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Yeah, and it's it's it's obvious
it's spiritual. And it's interesting too because

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we book and Daniel it talks about
this prince over Persia, which is modern

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day Iran, who has all these
this going on right now, and which

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is really heartbreaking, but and it
causes prince of the Prince of Persia.

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It's a spiritual entity because we see
Gabriel warring and then uh, we see

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you know, our kangs Michael helping
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But this prince is spiritual prince.
And it's interesting because when you read

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Revelation, it says that Satan comes
after the woman, and the woman is,

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you know, attacked by Satan,
and then she goes to the last

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half of tribulation forty two months into
the woveness and protected there for forty two

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months by God and nourished her for
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that represents Israel. And scratch your
head and you're like, no, wonder

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when you see this going on.
I mean, you and I we look

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at this and we're like, it's
so obvious that Israel. You know,

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as what officer, former officer told
me Bill one time, he said,

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Hey, Joe, I was in
Israel. He goes, Joe, what

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would happen if all the nations around
us, all these muzzlem nations just put

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their defenses down. He goes,
nothing, he goes, what would happen

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if we laid our defenses down,
like, oh, you'd be invaded for

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him, every every quarter of the
planet. You know, go get me.

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I think that's a lot. Well, you know, when I was

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in Israel, you know, I
spoke with several Arabs and they told me,

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they said, Bill, we're more
comfortable in Israel controlled territory. We

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have more peace with Israel in charge
charge as opposed to being in our areas

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that are controlled by Arabs. Wow, that's that's that's quite And I'm going,

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well, why can't you do something
about it? Well, you know,

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you look at it and you can
tell that they're just it's a fate

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to complete. They've accepted their fate
so to speak. You know, Joe,

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I wanted to address this with you
because you mentioned, uh, this

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is a spiritual battle. This you
know, it may have caught the United

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States, This may have caught beabing
Net and Yahoo and the IDF by surprise,

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but it didn't catch God by surprise. And God is is there though

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you know, all these plans by
Iran and the Iyatola and Hamas and Hezbalah

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and and even the Fatai and you
know what's happening in the in the West

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Bank. God, God is in
full control. But it's interesting to watch

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what's going on and that Israel has
this habit of not looking to God when

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it gets in these situations, it
wants, it wants to go to Egypt.

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In this case, America is modern
day Egypt in a sense, because

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you know, for bebingt in Yahoo
to look to Joe Biden, you know,

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for for help on this. I
understand in part in terms of the

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military aspect, but my goodness,
I think that this is one of those,

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especially with this administration. It's one
of those raids that will splinter in

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Israel's hands. Yeah, No,
that's a that's a I agree with that.

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Take one hundred percent bill. In
fact, when you look at Israel

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becoming a nation again, you know
in Isaiah sixty six eight, you know,

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that's that great prophecy where you know, they have been a country for

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almost two thousand years, but several
hundred years over you know, we're talking

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over you know, about twenty five
hundred years ago. Isaiah Gods through Isaiah,

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you know, says, who has
ever seen anything as strange as this?

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Whoever heard of such a thing ever
become born in a single day,

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you know, has a country ever
comes fourth in a mere moment. And

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then it goes on to say that
this will be the Lord's doing. And

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it's interesting, they become a nation
again, just as God prophesied that prophecy

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did. It just doesn't just state
that. But you know, Isaiah says,

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no use the nations to bring them
back into a land. And Bill

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I was literally, you know,
there in Haifa on a ship with hundreds

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of Jewish Jews from Russia coming out
of the ship and a lot of nice

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folks just coming back to their homeland. I'm like, think of the scriptures,

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how God's we bought kids on our
shoulders. And we showed the scripture

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to him where it says God,
we use the nations to bring you back

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on their shoulders. And and then
you know what I shared with him,

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Bill, I shared Isaiah fifty three
with them. I said, hey,

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look, I want to show you
in your own Bible. And I don't

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speak Hebrew, but my brother Ted
Walker there tassinated for me about how you

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know the Messiah would be rejected by
Israel, he'd be cut off from the

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land of the Living. Before you
know, all of us like sheep have

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gone astraight. The Lord's lay the
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And I'm showing them all these scriptures
and their eyes are like, you

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know, they're listening. Well.
Years later, Ted Walker, who opened

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like four or five pro life clinics
in Israel with his wife through the years,

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he shares with me about a year
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and we're trying doing a prophecy video
and using this as part of it on

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Israel. And he shows me,
He goes, Joe, those kids that

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we put on our shoulders, they're
working in the pro life ministry and they're

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now Christians and they said, hey, you put us on your shoulders.

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And it's just full circle. But
the thing about the nations, God did

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use the nations in fact exacts.
There's more resolutions as you know, Bill,

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I'm sure you know this against Israel
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There's more resolutions against Israel by the
UN. You just saw the general,

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uh, you know, the head
guy at the UN in the United States,

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in the United Nations in New York
saying that Israel, you know,

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blaming Israel for what happened you know, basically, and it's hard. He's

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trying. He's trying to backstep that. By the way, Oh, you

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haven't seen the news. Yeah.
Yeah, he's doing the political two step,

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you know. Ah wow, just
like just like Bidy's press secretary or

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the same things that. Oh I
didn't really hear the question. I'm like,

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you definitely heard the question. A
lot of people are being gracious.

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I try to be really gracious,
Bill, But she answered the question.

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She pivoted and said, you know, really it's not Israel, it's you

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know, it's way disproportioned how much
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that as well. It shows you
what they want to say and what they

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really feel, and then they backstep
it because they realize they can only push

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so far. But your statement on
the Nation's Bill, I think it's very

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very important. And then looking to
the nations Israel, because God used the

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nations, so you can all of
a sudden think, oh, the nations

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are my salvation. And of course
they can't look to all the nations.

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They could look to the United States
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one day and actually, sadly,
you know, the Left is getting more

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and more control. One day all
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And during during the tribulation period,
the Bible calls that Jacob's trouble says changed

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Israel is. God will bring Israel
to the point where they have to cry

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out to God. And I showed
my Jewish friends. I had a Jew

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come to our church Sunday and non
believing to you, but he said,

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I saw a track that you put
out brought me here. And I shared

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with him the scripture of Zacharie twelve. It says, look, it is

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what will be surrounded by nations.
That's what it says. There'll be a

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pot of trembling for the nations around
them. Many who tries to move her

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will be seriously injured, get herniated. You know, God made them a

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strong nation. That's part of the
prophecy. But it says that they'll cry

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out, and then when they cry
out, they'll see the one they pierced.

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And that blows me away. I
showed in Zecharie twelve. I showed

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him the scripture. It says the
Jews will see the one they pierced.

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So I believe eventually, one time
sadly because all the nations will turn against

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Israel, that she'll actually cry out
to God in the wilderness, you know,

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crying out, you know, escaping
ati Christ. But when she sees

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her God, it says, she'll
see the one she pierced, like Joseph's

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brothers revealed, he reeled exactly them
and they saw him who they pierced.

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He's a picture of without a doubt. You know, you mentioned the Press

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secretary of Karine, Jean Pierre,
and I want to give the quote exactly

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so that it has credence and it
backs up exactly what you were saying,

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because this is a quote, this
is exactly what she said. We have

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not seen any credible threats against Jews. Just want to make sure that that's

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out there. But look, Muslim
and those perceived to be Muslim have endured

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a disproportionate number of hate fueled attacks, and certainly President Biden understands that many

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of our Muslim Arab Americans and Palestinian
American loved ones and neighbors are worried about

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the hate being directed at their communities. Quote unquote, that's exactly what she

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said. And the reason I read
this and is what we're talking about.

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I always caution our viewers and our
listeners is that don't take our word for

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it. Hopefully what we're sharing with
you motivates you to own your own knowledge,

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be responsible for your own knowledge.
Don't take an eight second sound bite

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or something like this that has been
so warped and pretzeled and communicated to you

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in such a way to lead you
believe a lie versus the truth. I

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mean, what Kreeine Jean Pierre presented
is on its face, a flat out

434
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lie. It's not a mistake,
it's not some misunderstanding. It clearly is

435
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a lie. And she is the
press secretary representing the president of the United

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States and we the people. That's
how disturbing this is. Absolutely, you

437
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know. The only thing she got
right was the word disproportionate, but she

438
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used it in the wrong context.
Exactly fortunate because two percent of our country

439
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a bill, as you know,
is Jewish, very small part right that

440
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they hate crimes in the last several
years has been fifty one percent against Jews,

441
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way more than Muslims. I mean, it's like day and night,

442
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you know, yeah, yeah,
Muslims, I think is somewhat is it

443
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single digit or something I remember reading
to something. It's it's up to ten

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percent. Yeah, and and of
course after what happened in Israel, I

445
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mean, there's no hiding. I
mean you have to really, you know,

446
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delude yourself. But the thing that's
interesting here, you know, it's

447
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the young kids that really turned the
scales upside down. People who are older

448
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forty plus crowd eighty five percent supporting
Israel straight across. They believe what Hamas

449
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did was absolutely heinous, there's no
question about it. But then the young

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kids, the kids that are in
college, college aged kids, that number

451
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turns upside down, Joe, And
it's no wonder. Yeah, it's no

452
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wonder. I mean, you and
I we've lived through nine to eleven and

453
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many things before that. We have
a lot more experience. The kids are

454
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just getting brainwashed by liberal, woke
professors who have an agenda to brainwash our

455
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kids. Well, and I would
say to the kids is look at this

456
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is your life, it's your responsibility, and what has been under attack for

457
00:32:17.160 --> 00:32:22.480
the last several decades, honestly is
truth. When you abandon truth, you

458
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open the door to all kinds of
chaos and confusion. And I'm sorry that

459
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you're having to live under these circumstances. But I will tell you, just

460
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like you know, God's grace and
what God has allowed Joe and I to

461
00:32:36.440 --> 00:32:40.680
go through is that we sought out
the truth and we have been rewarded with

462
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it. But it doesn't mean that
everything. You know that we're one hundred

463
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percent, but we're a lot more
knowledgeable and certainly committed to the truth than

464
00:32:52.799 --> 00:32:57.960
we've ever been. And because of
the experience, the practical experience of discovering

465
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the truth and holding to it,
this is what this is our passion.

466
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This is what we're sharing with you
that you too would be able to benefit

467
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from the truth. And it's tough
because it is countercultural right now, there's

468
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no doubt about it, whether it's
our mainstream media, traditional media forms,

469
00:33:15.359 --> 00:33:21.279
even social media, you know,
traditional for you, not necessarily for us

470
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older folks, but traditional. Nonetheless, they have warped the narrative to such

471
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a degree that they're getting you to
buy into a lie. And the next

472
00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:36.599
question you should ask is why,
Yeah, that's such an important, uh

473
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so important what you said, because
there's such an emphasis and scripture about seeking

474
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the truth through proverbs, you know, more important than silver gold, you

475
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know, precious stones. And today
you know, we live in a time

476
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where in two Timothy three talks about
know this at last days, terrible or

477
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perilous times would come and metai leverage
their own selves and covets and posters,

478
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proud blust fevers this obeedy to the
parents. I'm thankful, unholy without natural

479
00:34:01.599 --> 00:34:06.359
affection, says that we truth breakers, false accusers, and continued says fierce

480
00:34:06.519 --> 00:34:10.320
despisers of those that are good traders, hetty high minded traders. Look think

481
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of the universities, hetty high minded, lovers of pleasures more lovers of God

482
00:34:14.760 --> 00:34:16.599
have the form of godliness been denying
the power there? But it says something

483
00:34:16.679 --> 00:34:21.119
right after that, uh, never
able to come to the knowledge of the

484
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truth. So once on the size
of the days is that last days is

485
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that people won't care about truth.
And like you started this, uh this

486
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this program with that it's Isaiah.
You know they're calling good evil and evil

487
00:34:32.320 --> 00:34:37.360
good and putting light for darkness and
dark for light. Thankfully, there'll be

488
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people that will open their eyes.
And we're not giving up on the young

489
00:34:38.880 --> 00:34:42.559
people. We're reaching out to them, trying to trying to bring them to

490
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know the truth and know Christ Well, Joe, the fact is the young

491
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people to us, I mean,
they're the next generation. We're handing the

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baton off to them. And I, like you, I have faith in

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00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:58.079
young people, and uh, you
know, and this allows us to transition

494
00:34:58.199 --> 00:35:00.840
for just a moment to talk a
little bit about your book. I know

495
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this book is designed for younger young
people, but this is the next generation

496
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that's coming up, and it's so
important that they understand what their identity is

497
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because this is the age old question
who am I? And why am I

498
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here? Right? That's right,
Yeah, that's I Specifically, I have

499
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children, now, I have grandchildren
as you do, Bill, and I

500
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oftentimes tell them stories, but I
try to tell them stories with morals and

501
00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:34.599
try to point them to Christ and
and and I thought, man, there's

502
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so many books I'd want to finish. And I thought, you know what,

503
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I thought, this would be a
great book to write, Sparky the

504
00:35:40.400 --> 00:35:45.159
Broken Mirror, about understanding their true
identity because you have, as you know,

505
00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:51.159
with identity politics, as you know
with you know, gender dysphoria as

506
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it's called, and you know,
kids, you know, thinking that they're

507
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being taught that there may be gals, you may be guys and guys you

508
00:35:58.840 --> 00:36:01.599
may be gals, and so for
there's such confusion. And I wanted my

509
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grandchildren, and I passed her church, so I want children in general.

510
00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:10.000
My heart breaks for all these children
I see when you see them getting mutilated,

511
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their body parts being moved around and
all those things. That's so wicked.

512
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And I'm like, you know what, the Left is going after our

513
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children. I'm like, we need
to go after our own children. You

514
00:36:19.800 --> 00:36:22.679
know, a lot of the Left
can't even have children because they're having sex

515
00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:25.440
with the same sex. But they
they're going after our children. And so

516
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I wrote this book specifically with a
heavy heart to show our true identity.

517
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And the reason I did it is
sparky. That's the reason I did it.

518
00:36:35.800 --> 00:36:39.239
But the King represents Christ, you
know, says through him all things

519
00:36:39.239 --> 00:36:45.440
were made, and he makes this
mirror, and this mirror is made to

520
00:36:45.480 --> 00:36:49.880
reflect his image, and it has
this own identity, just like we're creating

521
00:36:49.920 --> 00:36:52.679
in his image, Bill, But
we have our own identity, just like

522
00:36:52.719 --> 00:36:55.960
the burning bush that Moses saw with
a great I am and it was still

523
00:36:55.960 --> 00:37:00.679
a bush, but it reflected God
used it. And jas Error is happy

524
00:37:00.840 --> 00:37:05.320
he's got a couple, you know, sweet and everything, and then he's

525
00:37:05.320 --> 00:37:07.480
told by a serpent who crawls into
the palace, you know, jump off

526
00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:10.719
the wall, because you know the
king is blinding for you from who you

527
00:37:10.760 --> 00:37:14.599
really are. You could be such
a great big star. A all rhymes

528
00:37:14.639 --> 00:37:16.920
all the way through. And then
he thinks about it after the king's lovingly

529
00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:21.519
made him, and he jumps,
and he shatters into thousand pieces and he

530
00:37:21.559 --> 00:37:24.159
tries to climb a ladder, can't
get there on his own. He puts

531
00:37:24.199 --> 00:37:29.519
all of his you know, his
glass in a knapsack or a pack and

532
00:37:29.719 --> 00:37:31.840
walks around like a hobo, trying
to be fixed. So you realize he

533
00:37:31.880 --> 00:37:34.960
made a big mistake. But you
also feel for him, you know,

534
00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:37.920
that's the world. You feel for
the loss. And then he goes to

535
00:37:37.320 --> 00:37:40.280
a doctor and a nurse and they
can't fix in the gim of bandage,

536
00:37:40.320 --> 00:37:44.239
you know. He goes to a
therapist tells him that just love himself more.

537
00:37:44.320 --> 00:37:46.719
That's not the answer. He goes, you know, to a guru

538
00:37:46.800 --> 00:37:51.039
in the east, and the guru
tells him to contemplate his belly button,

539
00:37:51.480 --> 00:37:54.719
so he thinks about a broken belly
button. But that then he goes to

540
00:37:54.760 --> 00:38:00.400
a witch and she levitates him,
and witchcrafts like the fastest growing religion states

541
00:38:00.440 --> 00:38:04.000
Wika with young people, which is
heartbreaking. He goes to the witch and

542
00:38:04.119 --> 00:38:06.559
she lavitates him, and he breaks, and that last shard of glass he

543
00:38:06.559 --> 00:38:08.719
has left, he loses that because
the occult actually hurts you more than it

544
00:38:08.719 --> 00:38:12.920
doesn't help you. Hurts you.
And then finally Bill, he goes to

545
00:38:12.920 --> 00:38:15.440
the Black Forest and he's filled with
hopelessness, in despair, you know,

546
00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:17.840
and he has no hope, and
you feel so bad for him. In

547
00:38:17.840 --> 00:38:21.440
fact, a lot of people in
the reviews on Amazon and other people person

548
00:38:21.480 --> 00:38:23.039
they have told me they said,
I started crying at that point, you

549
00:38:23.079 --> 00:38:28.119
know, because you feel for him. And then just then the king because

550
00:38:28.119 --> 00:38:30.239
that's any one of us, Joe, that's right, it's our story.

551
00:38:30.559 --> 00:38:34.960
Yes. One of the people that
one of the reviews says that I think

552
00:38:35.079 --> 00:38:37.599
is one that said she was crying. She said, I realize this is

553
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my story. That's why I said
it's really for the whole family. And

554
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then the King reveals himself and Sparky
basically you know, has asked the question,

555
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or ask the question, how come
I couldn't put myself back together again?

556
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And the King says because you're created
to reflect me. And that's like

557
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the lost people today. They don't
even know if their male or female.

558
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They don't know they were creating the
image of God via Darwinism and all these

559
00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:04.119
lies. You know. They don't
know their history, they don't know their

560
00:39:04.159 --> 00:39:07.440
future, they don't know they're to
face God in judgment. So what happens

561
00:39:07.519 --> 00:39:10.480
is the King puts them back together
again, and you see the King's hands

562
00:39:10.480 --> 00:39:15.800
bleeding because the picture of Christ's sacrifice
for us. At that point, Sparky's

563
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crying because of the King's great love. And then he brings them back and

564
00:39:17.880 --> 00:39:21.760
he shines brighter than he ever did, letting the young people know, guess

565
00:39:21.800 --> 00:39:24.559
what God can make even better than
you were first intended to be made,

566
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because now we can become what the
Bible calls the bride of Christ, you

567
00:39:28.719 --> 00:39:32.000
know, and the fellowship with this
king. That's basically the story. And

568
00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:37.960
Christmas is coming up exactly, and
I'm telling you this is this is awesome.

569
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And I'm getting copies for you know, the grandkids, my great granddaughter.

570
00:39:43.679 --> 00:39:46.760
I have a great granddaughter now,
and and she just had a birthday

571
00:39:46.760 --> 00:39:50.360
and so I told her, I
go Sparky, the broken Marror is coming

572
00:39:50.400 --> 00:39:52.960
your way, and I said,
I wish i'd be there with you.

573
00:39:52.119 --> 00:40:00.000
She's in Arizona, outside of Arizona, and are outside of Phoenix in guilt

574
00:40:00.039 --> 00:40:04.360
at Arizona actually, and I said, uh, I'd love to be there

575
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to read it to you. So
I said, when we get together,

576
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I'll make sure we bring that book. And uh, because I do want

577
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to read it to you, because
I think it's going to be one of

578
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those books that you'll want to read
over and over again. And what this

579
00:40:15.719 --> 00:40:19.480
reminded me of, Joe, I
can tell you is that in my devotional

580
00:40:19.599 --> 00:40:22.320
the other day, I was reminded
that here we are, we're created to

581
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worship, right, this is this
is who we are. We're we're we're

582
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created to worship. And so that
means we're going to worship something. Either

583
00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:35.599
we're going to worship, as you
say, the legitimate or the counterffit.

584
00:40:36.199 --> 00:40:40.800
It's our choice to make. But
you need to understand is that in whatever

585
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you worship, you will become.
That's right. And when I read that,

586
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that really that set hard on me
and I thought, wow, that

587
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is and and then you know,
then I get I get the you know,

588
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the copy of your book and I
see the mirror and go, oh

589
00:40:55.559 --> 00:40:59.000
my gosh. You know, I
said, God's trying to tell me something

590
00:40:59.000 --> 00:41:01.960
here, you know. Ah,
that's fascinating. Yeah, there's a few

591
00:41:01.960 --> 00:41:07.480
different scriptures like that Isaiah five and
elsewhere that you become like what you worship.

592
00:41:07.559 --> 00:41:09.239
It isn't that the truth? I
remember befar as a Christian, you

593
00:41:09.280 --> 00:41:12.719
know, you know, we used
to worship our rock star idols, you

594
00:41:12.760 --> 00:41:15.400
know, and dress like them,
and the rappers dress like their rap artists,

595
00:41:15.400 --> 00:41:20.679
and and it leads them down that
broad road to destruction. So praise

596
00:41:20.719 --> 00:41:23.480
God, we have the freedom in
this country to actually proclaim that Christ and

597
00:41:24.119 --> 00:41:30.199
and and speak truth and and the
scriptures warned as well build that people would

598
00:41:30.199 --> 00:41:32.280
lose their identity in the last days. And that's why I wrote this as

599
00:41:32.280 --> 00:41:37.039
well, because it says the second
Tivy three when it says they'll be without

600
00:41:37.400 --> 00:41:42.599
love, the Greek one translation says
that without natural affection, and the word

601
00:41:42.679 --> 00:41:45.880
is is they'll be a store gay, meaning without family love. There's different

602
00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:51.559
Greek words like filetto and agapao and
arrows for love, but the Greek words

603
00:41:51.559 --> 00:41:54.719
for family love is a story gay, but a storgay, the a or

604
00:41:54.760 --> 00:42:00.639
the alpha prefix the Gates love with
the Gates family love story gay family love.

605
00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:02.599
So it tells us in Last Days
the Bible spot on the last Day's

606
00:42:02.599 --> 00:42:07.960
tribal some men will be without they'll
be without family love. And Leicester Crowley,

607
00:42:08.280 --> 00:42:13.400
the most highly regardless Satanists of all
time. Now he has a statement

608
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that family is public enemy number one
and the marriage bond is a despicable institution,

609
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he said. And Satan's been all
about destroying the family for years and

610
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years and years, and it's just
so happens that in one Corinthias six nine

611
00:42:25.760 --> 00:42:30.079
and ten, it gives a warning
where people will be all mixed up sexually

612
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and rebellion to God. It says, don't be deceived fornicators and adulters and

613
00:42:34.159 --> 00:42:37.840
homosexuals and effeminate, well not and
so forth will not hear God's kingdom And

614
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the word for effeminate there according to
Philo of Alexandria, the Jewish historian,

615
00:42:44.519 --> 00:42:49.000
and so forth, he says,
he uses that same word of men who

616
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use perfume and would shave themselves and
seek to present themselves like women, would

617
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do their hero like women. And
so forth. We have a number of

618
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witnesses that were contextually time wise.
In the Greco Roman world, that word

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was used of the effeminate, those
men who sought to be women. Well,

620
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that Ford says in Deuroonomy, a
man's not supposed to dress like a

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woman, and a woman's not supposed
to dress like a mass abomination to God.

622
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So both the Old and the New
Testament warned about this, but the

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scripts warned that this would be something
that would take place in the end days

624
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when you were saying earlier, good
will be called evil and it will be

625
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called good. Hence I wrote this
book so so parents can let children know

626
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and emphasize say in a loving,
entertaining way. It's pretty entertaining to say,

627
00:43:28.039 --> 00:43:30.280
well, you're I'm creating the image
of God. What does he want

628
00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:36.039
me to become exactly? Well,
you know, I always say that in

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the moment of confusion, return to
first principles. And I love the opening

630
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verse of Genesis. In the beginning, God see all these attacks on God.

631
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It's to give us the impression that
God is less than we can imagine,

632
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less than we think. That's right, and that it's all again.

633
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This is where the lie all all
begins. In the garden of Eden,

634
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did God really say. God has
questioned time and time again. But you

635
00:44:04.199 --> 00:44:07.719
know what, Joe, God can
handle the questions, but you must go

636
00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:12.480
to him in spirit and in truth. You can talk to the Father and

637
00:44:12.480 --> 00:44:15.079
say, you know what, I'm
sorry, I am confused right now.

638
00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:21.440
I hear the culture, and help
me reconcile. Grant me wisdom God to

639
00:44:21.559 --> 00:44:24.280
understand what's going on. God doesn't
want us to go around pal Mell with

640
00:44:24.360 --> 00:44:29.800
our hair on fire, you know, trying to figure this out. He

641
00:44:29.840 --> 00:44:32.559
will lead us in truth if we
earnestly seek him. But we've got to

642
00:44:32.639 --> 00:44:36.880
want to We've got to want to
know the truth. It's easy to fall

643
00:44:36.920 --> 00:44:40.079
into this cultural trap and go along
to get along, you know, that's

644
00:44:40.119 --> 00:44:45.960
the easy way out. The challenge
is to be countercultural, especially for a

645
00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:52.119
time like this when there's so much, so much manure flying out there.

646
00:44:52.280 --> 00:44:55.199
You know, we need people of
faith who are ready to come with their

647
00:44:55.239 --> 00:45:00.599
shovels and clear this stuff out because
you know, people are perishing. And

648
00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:06.360
who knows, Joe, who knows
Maybe this conversation, maybe you know this

649
00:45:06.800 --> 00:45:10.679
TV show, is that appointed time
for that individual to make a difference.

650
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I don't know. Only God knows. Yeah, Amen, one of the

651
00:45:15.639 --> 00:45:20.559
reviewers of the book on Amazon,
and I encourage you. I thank you

652
00:45:20.599 --> 00:45:23.719
for encouraging people regarding this book because
it's a lot of people have been infected

653
00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:27.440
in a one mile I think it
was a mother writing on a dad,

654
00:45:27.440 --> 00:45:30.800
but she said that I thought,
I got this book for my child to

655
00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:35.519
understand truth. And she goes and
this affected me, you know, And

656
00:45:35.599 --> 00:45:37.760
I really wrote it for everybody because
it was based on an analogy. I

657
00:45:37.840 --> 00:45:43.119
use what I preach that we're black
mirrors and if a marriage is broken,

658
00:45:43.599 --> 00:45:45.239
how does it get fixed? You
remember the hippies, you know, back

659
00:45:45.239 --> 00:45:49.760
in the day. They don't try
to find themselves. You know exactly the

660
00:45:49.760 --> 00:45:52.159
mirror is trying to find itself.
It doesn't know what it's supposed to look

661
00:45:52.199 --> 00:45:53.440
like until it realized it is supposed
to reflect the image of its king.

662
00:45:53.719 --> 00:45:55.960
And that's how the world is.
In the beginning, as you said,

663
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God created the heads of the earth
and then he makes us in his image.

664
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And this to say, we had
this great fall. We're shadowed by

665
00:46:01.679 --> 00:46:06.199
sin and he's the one that remakes
us. I mean, I thank God

666
00:46:06.239 --> 00:46:07.480
for doctors and stuff. They help
us in a lot of ways, but

667
00:46:07.559 --> 00:46:10.559
they can't save our souls. Only
Jesus can save our souls. Well,

668
00:46:10.599 --> 00:46:13.599
exactly right. Well, and the
thing is, you know, like you

669
00:46:13.880 --> 00:46:16.079
were talking about earlier. I mean, let's talk about the hippie era.

670
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You know you had asked you had
all these you know, meditative programs that

671
00:46:21.679 --> 00:46:23.639
came in, and you know,
these different philosophies. As I know,

672
00:46:23.760 --> 00:46:27.800
during that period of time, I
was on a search for God. I

673
00:46:28.199 --> 00:46:30.480
just had felt like you know,
I was raised Catholic and a lot of

674
00:46:30.519 --> 00:46:34.559
things happened within the Catholic Church,
and I said, I got to find

675
00:46:34.559 --> 00:46:36.360
God. And people would say to
me and say, well, Bill,

676
00:46:36.400 --> 00:46:37.519
when are you going to study the
Bible? Well, I'm in the zen

677
00:46:37.599 --> 00:46:42.800
of motorcycle maintenance right now. And
you know, so whether it was that

678
00:46:43.000 --> 00:46:46.679
or scientology or some other theory,
God and his grace and mercy allowed me

679
00:46:46.760 --> 00:46:51.679
to, you know, go through
that experience to such a degree, Joe,

680
00:46:51.719 --> 00:46:54.440
when it was time you know,
for me, and and God opened

681
00:46:54.440 --> 00:46:59.679
my eyes and I had to reconcile
the truth. I said, God,

682
00:46:59.679 --> 00:47:02.920
Please, I mean, I know
I deserve to be judged and annihilated this

683
00:47:04.079 --> 00:47:07.440
very second. Can I have a
little bit of a you know, a

684
00:47:07.480 --> 00:47:12.079
little bit of a ramp a little
bit of time to you know, not

685
00:47:12.119 --> 00:47:15.199
that I could ever make up anything, you know, and make up for

686
00:47:15.320 --> 00:47:19.519
any of the evil that I've participated
in, But I just want to have

687
00:47:19.559 --> 00:47:23.199
a chance to know you as this, as this new creation. Can I

688
00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:27.920
have some time? And by God's
grace and mercy, he gave me time.

689
00:47:28.320 --> 00:47:32.599
But I say that, Joe,
also relative to what you were saying

690
00:47:32.639 --> 00:47:37.440
earlier, and that is, look
at all the philosophies, all the teachings

691
00:47:37.840 --> 00:47:42.280
you know, from the history of
Man, the nations, you know,

692
00:47:42.320 --> 00:47:45.800
whether we're talking the Roman Empire,
the Assyrians, I mean, go right

693
00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:51.800
on down the list. Where are
they today? What is still standing versus

694
00:47:52.360 --> 00:47:57.639
you know, versus the history of
Man. No, that's a great point

695
00:47:58.559 --> 00:48:00.519
that these philosophies that come and go. But you know, we're talking about

696
00:48:00.519 --> 00:48:04.719
the sixties, and I'm glad you
began to you know, pick up on

697
00:48:04.800 --> 00:48:07.400
that. And you know, I
was lost too. I was born in

698
00:48:07.480 --> 00:48:12.039
sixty three, so when I became
awakened spiritually was to the wrong side.

699
00:48:12.679 --> 00:48:15.840
I you know, I ended up
getting involved in meditation and so forth.

700
00:48:16.679 --> 00:48:22.199
You know, just basically visualizing my
success by a couple of books. One

701
00:48:22.239 --> 00:48:24.599
was called psycho cybernetics. One was
called The Power Subconscious Mind. I'm sixteen,

702
00:48:24.679 --> 00:48:29.199
seventeen years old, and I begin
to visualize my success like these books

703
00:48:29.199 --> 00:48:31.760
talk about, and all of a
sudden, I'm going through states of paralysis,

704
00:48:31.880 --> 00:48:35.639
which the books don't talk about,
and I have a humming sound going

705
00:48:35.639 --> 00:48:37.960
through my head and before I know
it, I'm like, first, I'm

706
00:48:37.960 --> 00:48:38.519
thinking, I'm going to just,
you know, be in a hospital and

707
00:48:38.519 --> 00:48:42.079
they're not gonna know this. They're
gonna say I'm paralyzed, but they're not

708
00:48:42.079 --> 00:48:44.800
gonna know this crazy sounds going through
my head. And then I came out

709
00:48:44.800 --> 00:48:45.920
of it, and I'm like,
looking for this in the books where it

710
00:48:45.960 --> 00:48:50.039
talks about this experience, and they
didn't. There was no internet then,

711
00:48:50.400 --> 00:48:52.079
so you know, but I don't
even know who, you know, bought

712
00:48:52.119 --> 00:48:55.079
those books in my house, my
mom or one of my sisters or something,

713
00:48:57.119 --> 00:48:59.599
and I started realizing, Wow,
I broke on through to the other

714
00:48:59.639 --> 00:49:01.840
side, Jim Morrison saying, you
know exactly, I'm in touch now,

715
00:49:02.079 --> 00:49:07.360
and that continue to happen, but
I began to channel lyrics, very demonic

716
00:49:07.440 --> 00:49:12.840
lyrics that were beyond my intelligence at
the time. I'm sure I couldn't write

717
00:49:12.880 --> 00:49:15.920
those songs this day. But my
first song Bill was called My Family or

718
00:49:15.960 --> 00:49:19.840
My Soul, and it was about
selling my family soul to Satan. I

719
00:49:19.880 --> 00:49:22.360
was falling fever deeper to the hole
I could be freed. The devil's grasped

720
00:49:22.400 --> 00:49:23.719
my soul. I could hear my
mother screaming, and my sister's dreaming,

721
00:49:23.719 --> 00:49:28.119
and my father crying, and my
brother died. And at first I was

722
00:49:28.159 --> 00:49:30.639
trouble with devil for the reason.
Then the choice had done to be my

723
00:49:30.679 --> 00:49:31.880
soul or out of my family's TV
trees, and I couldn't win to be

724
00:49:31.880 --> 00:49:35.840
a devil or demon. And then
the song ends where I'm at the final

725
00:49:35.840 --> 00:49:37.159
bottom, and there I allowed to
say goodbye, and so I won ed

726
00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:39.360
maybe so, and so I left
with my soul and began a rock and

727
00:49:39.480 --> 00:49:44.639
roll And there was such a hideous
song. If anybody would ever say to

728
00:49:44.679 --> 00:49:46.599
me at that time, how could
you write about selling your family soul for

729
00:49:46.719 --> 00:49:51.320
rock music? That's when my lead
guitar came in. I'd say, you

730
00:49:51.360 --> 00:49:53.039
know what, it's just an anthem. I don't believe in Satan and the

731
00:49:53.039 --> 00:49:55.519
God of the Bible. That's all
a bunch of junk. It's just shows

732
00:49:55.519 --> 00:49:59.079
how much I love music, I'd
never do that well. I was being

733
00:49:59.079 --> 00:50:04.159
played like a flute because I found
all these other demonic lyrics that were just

734
00:50:04.199 --> 00:50:07.559
pushing, and I became a new
ager. It became a hippie through my

735
00:50:07.599 --> 00:50:10.280
own lyrics because I was channeling demons
I didn't know exist. I thought it

736
00:50:10.280 --> 00:50:14.559
was my subconscious mind. But Bill, when I started having my covers pulled

737
00:50:14.559 --> 00:50:17.679
down and rooving sideways on my bed
and then rolling out of my bed during

738
00:50:17.679 --> 00:50:22.960
one of my experiences, as clear
as I'm talking to you, but just

739
00:50:23.000 --> 00:50:27.840
a very calm voice said hold on, hold on, not even that abrupt,

740
00:50:27.880 --> 00:50:30.960
just hold on, hold on.
And I realized, and then I

741
00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:32.440
kept rolling. I looked at my
face in the mirror. I'd like,

742
00:50:32.719 --> 00:50:36.119
leave me alone. I was holding
my long hair out, you know,

743
00:50:36.360 --> 00:50:38.960
just you know, eyes and wiping
my nose. My hair is sticking out,

744
00:50:39.159 --> 00:50:43.320
and I'm I realized at that point, you know what, I'm not

745
00:50:43.360 --> 00:50:47.039
in touch with my subconscious mind.
These are disembodied spirits, exactly evil because

746
00:50:47.039 --> 00:50:52.119
they're all anti christ. I realized, wow, my anti christ lyrics.

747
00:50:52.760 --> 00:50:54.760
Wow, there's a spiritual world.
I was a little thick headed, and

748
00:50:54.800 --> 00:51:00.679
I came to the realization that man
Satan is real. I I cried out

749
00:51:00.679 --> 00:51:02.199
to God and missed some one of
my prowess experience. Next time happened.

750
00:51:02.519 --> 00:51:06.320
Happened twice in a row that way
after that. Both times I cried out

751
00:51:06.320 --> 00:51:07.480
the second time. First time I
said only if this is good. I

752
00:51:07.519 --> 00:51:12.360
couldn't move my mouth. Second time
I thought more directly to Christ. You

753
00:51:12.360 --> 00:51:15.480
know, God, you know it
stopped again. I got on my knees.

754
00:51:15.679 --> 00:51:20.199
Never had that experience again. I
gave myself to Christ. I realized

755
00:51:20.199 --> 00:51:22.400
what an idiot was, that I
was a sinner like that relation you came

756
00:51:22.960 --> 00:51:28.079
that man I was. I was
rebellious. I deserved whatever I would have

757
00:51:28.119 --> 00:51:30.920
gotten. And then I ended up
opening this Bible, which I thought was

758
00:51:30.920 --> 00:51:34.440
full of fables, blowing out the
dust. You know. I was this

759
00:51:34.519 --> 00:51:37.199
young seventeen year old turning eighteen right
around that time, maybe just eighteenth for

760
00:51:37.199 --> 00:51:39.960
a little bit, and I ended
up, Uh, then, Jesus,

761
00:51:40.000 --> 00:51:44.280
just the truth popped out. There's
a spiritual war, you know, and

762
00:51:45.119 --> 00:51:50.239
exactly we've got to wrap things up
here. But again, you know,

763
00:51:50.280 --> 00:51:53.639
we're gone full circle and you've proven
the point. You know, you become

764
00:51:54.199 --> 00:51:59.039
like that, that's right, what
you worship. What you worship, you

765
00:51:59.119 --> 00:52:02.280
become and uh and there it is. You know your story. Uh,

766
00:52:02.840 --> 00:52:08.559
congratulations on the book you know,
on on your church and all that God

767
00:52:08.880 --> 00:52:14.519
has been utilizing you for. Uh
and thank you for you know, coming

768
00:52:14.599 --> 00:52:17.440
on the show. The book Sparky
the Broken Mirror available at all the usual

769
00:52:17.480 --> 00:52:22.199
places I get it right, Yeah, get on Amazon or Sparky dot com,

770
00:52:22.280 --> 00:52:24.880
sparkybook dot com. That's great,
well, excellent. Well, Joe

771
00:52:24.880 --> 00:52:30.159
Shemel, thank you so much.
God bless you. Thank you. You're

772
00:52:30.199 --> 00:52:35.840
a total blessing my brother. Take
care, have well. Our thanks to

773
00:52:35.920 --> 00:52:37.960
Joe Shemel for being with us today. For more information to be a part

774
00:52:38.000 --> 00:52:42.480
of this mighty movement to return to
God and to save our country, go

775
00:52:42.519 --> 00:52:45.320
to Bill Martinez Show dot com.
May God bless you and keep you,

776
00:52:45.440 --> 00:52:49.360
make His face shine upon you.
May He be gracious unto you and give

777
00:52:49.440 --> 00:52:52.000
you his piece. Go and have
a great day. Thank you so much

778
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for being with us. Sent a
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