The New Epoch Times Documentary Gotaways Takes a Deep Dive Into the Hidden Border Crisis

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FORCY Radio. Well, welcome to
the Bill Martini Show. Good to have

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you with us sharing a part of
your day. Our next topic is the

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deepening and hidden border crisis New Epic
Times and I think sometimes I say epic,

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some people say Epoch, but you
know what I mean either. One

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the Epoch Times documentary titled Gotaways take
a deep dive into the hidden border crisis.

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We have producer and editor Kay Rubiceck
joining us, and she's going to

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talk about this startling new film.
This is the whole truth and nothing.

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But this isn't something that the government, the Biden administration or Secretary of Homeland

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Security Majorcas is saying to us.
They went to the border to find out

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what the truth and what it really
was all about. Kate ruby Check,

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Welcome to the show. Good to
have you with us. Thank you so

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much for having me. Well,
you say Epoker epic. I actually say

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Epoch, but sometimes I'll slip and
say epic. Both are fine, Okay,

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I'm writing an accent, so maybe
I'm well, well, we love

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that. So yeah, I've been. I've back and forth, and every

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time I talked to somebody from Epoch
Times, they'll go, well, you

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know, it's buck. I guess
they still haven't decided, but I hope

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they do for the sake of their
brand, because they're doing such a great

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job, especially with these documentaries,
right they sure are. I think that

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having the finger on the pulse is
so important for news these days. And

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they actually started working on this documentary
two years ago because they already knew that

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this was the biggest story that we
need to know before the election, and

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so they already saw that in advance
before I even got involved. So I

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could just see that, you know, they know what's going on with news,

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what's important. Well, to your
point, Ky, more and more

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people are turning to the Epoch Times
because they're true journalist, unlike what the

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major stream media sadly has become.
You know, you think of all the

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money, the protection of our First
Amendment right, and their duty to serve

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with the people. Sadly they've decided
not to serve with the people, but

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to serve them the government. That's
very true. And when you see big

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corporations, big government, and big
media all working together, that's when you

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start looking into really kind of corporate
socialism that is starting to control things.

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But what I you know, with
this documentary just an example of real journalism

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that the director and essentially the crew
of one was Charlotte Cuthbertson. She's the

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director writer of this movie. She
spent two years living in a border town

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where which is wide open, sixteen
miles of open border with Mexico, more

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than two hundred and forty hours writing
in cars with sheriffs, with ranches with

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you know, two hundred and forty
hours. What kind of journalists do that.

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It's the ones that really want to
give you a front row seat so

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that you don't have to necessarily go
to the border to know what's going on.

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But if you don't go there,
you won't you won't get it.

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So that's what this documentary is all
about. So, yeah, that's true

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journalism. Yeah, And what she's
done is holding contrast her pov, her

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point of view right there at the
front line versus what we're seeing and hearing

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from you know, the Department of
Homeland Security, Ma Orcas. It's true

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because you know, and there is
her point of view in there. But

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at the same time, you know, the feedback we've been getting for this

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documentary is that it's not emotionally manipulative, it's not pushing an agenda, and

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it just takes you into the cars
riding with sheriffs. We've even had people

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saying you've you've edited out the violence
that the police do and and I mean,

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that's laughable because it just means that
so many people don't realize what it's

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like outside of the big cities in
America, and that's where so many of

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us are, and we have to
be seeing that on television. Well,

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to your point, the perception is
is that whenever you have people in uniform,

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there's got to be some violence.
There's to be some you know,

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some crime that the guys in uniform
and with a gun are doing. I

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mean, look what happened when the
uh, you know, the border agents

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on horseback. We're trying to control
people. You know, the narrative,

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even coming from the President of the
United States, was that they were whipping

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these people. There was no such
thing. It's really sad, isn't it,

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Because you know, I'm a mother
of two children, and I want

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my kids to respect law and order, and for that, they need to

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be able to respect the people who
helped maintain that in our society. And

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if they're getting these opposing narratives and
things that don't make sense, it makes

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it really hard for the next generation
to kind of understand what's going on.

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You know, it's it's really it's
it's we have to get things straight right.

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We don't want things to get out
because our kids, uh, you

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know, everybody else's kids are grandkids
that are coming up. They've got a

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big mess to clean up because of
the social justice warriors that want to defund

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police, compromise the idea of law
in order, you know, for this

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victimization complex that has taken over,
and there is just grave damage done that

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you know. Okay, I'm afraid
it could take decades to reconcile this that

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is a big issue, isn't it, Because that's where it is. It

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is generations. And I often look
at in my books and movies often look

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at the effect of socialism communist ideology
on people and societies, and so,

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you know, looking at the border
in this particular issue, we've got to

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look at it in a really really
looking at the tip of the iceberg,

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and it's so shocking. But when
you see the type of lawlessness that's being

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carried out, then you start to
realize what we need to undo because we're

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getting things mixed up. We're calling
people immigrants when they are not. They

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are illegal, and that's just a
simple distinction. That's not an opinion,

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that's according to American law. But
the media will say call them immigrants,

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and we will repeat that because we
don't know any better. So that's where

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we need to start getting our language
right. And I think that's a really

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important part to what you're saying,
if of that getting things right and undoing

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what's being done, because our language
is being twisted around, and we need

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to know what our gotaways, what
are give ups, what are illegal immigrants?

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What illegal immigrants? We've got to
start getting that right now. No

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you're exactly right. But that's you
know, that is the model consistently over

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the ages. K and I just
can't believe that we're so ignorant. But

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unfortunately, the mainstream media has entered
into this, uh you know, this

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type of you know, bent journalism
and biased journalism that wants to promote a

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narrative and agenda far from the truth. And so they go along with the

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words our language being hijacked and confusing
people all the or. But when you

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go back and study the history of
socialism and communism and Marxism, that's one

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of the first things they do is
they take over the language, they start

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redefining things, and then if you
don't say the right word, well then

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they've got ways to get you to
conform, much like what we're experiencing right

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now, whether it's the cancel culture. I mean, there are some you

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know, even some platforms K right
now. We're fortunate because we are an

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independent network, but even still there
are some there are some guidelines in certain

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areas that we can't we can't talk
about and that I'll tell you you have

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no idea how crazy that makes me. Because the reason I decided to do

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this and get behind the microphone after
being away from broadcasting and a microphone for

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you know, many years, and
I've been behind the microphone again and now

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in front of a camera for fifteen
years. Was because I wanted to pursue

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the truth for the sake of the
American people, no matter where it led,

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led follow the truth. But unfortunately, now the powers, whether it's

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Facebook, YouTube, these other social
media oligarchs, along with the mainstream media,

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they've all entered into a back room
cabal that says, okay, anything

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that doesn't agree with their perspective is
misinformation and worthy of canceling. And that's

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when it becomes propaganda. Right,
It's no longer it's no longer news,

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it's no longer truth. And in
some of my research I've I've looked at

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trainings at the Chinese Communist Party,
for example, gives to their they call

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them journalists, and I've interviewed many
journalists, and I've interviewed even people that

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run were involved in the administration of
the propaganda department. They don't call it

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the news department or the media.
They call it propaganda. Though they did

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trans change the translation. They kept
the Chinese name the same, but they

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changed the English translation to be Publicity
Department. But I asked, it is

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the Chinese name that's still is saying. They said, yeah, they just

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change it so it's a little bit
more palatable to us. But they say

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very clearly they don't do news.
Their journalists do not do news. They

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do propaganda and spin. Period.
That's what they do, and they have

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to follow the party line otherwise they're
out. That's it. That's the way

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it is, and that's why it's
becoming here in America. Sadly, ladies

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and gentlemen. I mean, you
check it out for yourself. We're talking

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with a producer and editor k rib
Check with Epic Times and the documentary Guidaways,

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which takes a deeper dive into the
hidden border crisis. Ka, why

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did Epic Times two years ago decide
that they needed to do this, Well,

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people haven't been you know, there's
so many things that are being seen

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about the border on all media.
You know, now everyone's is talking about

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it, and in general, I
think a lot of us have this kind

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of border fatigue, feeling like,
oh, yeah, we know it already,

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we know there's a problem, and
that's part of the problem is that

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they make us feel like we don't
need to know more about it, that

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we already know what's going on.
When that's not true, because what we

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haven't seen is things like the godaways
one point seven million that we know of,

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there's many more that we don't know. If we don't know, I

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was going to say, how did
they come up with that number? I

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mean, if they're gotaways, I
mean, are they sticking their finger up

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in the air and just kind of
coming up with, you know, an

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estimate here, And much the same
way that you hear them today. They

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still use an old number from you
know, decades ago, saying in the

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United States, there's thirteen million illegal
immigrants. Well, it's not like,

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you know, things have stopped twenty
years ago. They've continued to grow.

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And I think that number, you
know, our guests is as good as

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anybody else, probably about twenty five
thirty million illegal immigrants in this country right

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now. They are trying to play
it safe with the numbers, so that

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one point seven million over since that
Biden administration took over. That's very conservative,

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and they have to look at a
percentage of what they are aware of,

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and that's based you know, these
these border authorities, border patrol sheriff's

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on the board, they know what, you know, they're dealing with this

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twenty four seven, So they I
think their estimates, at least on this

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low end are accurately. I'd probably
count on them that I wed the government,

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because the government has a way of
you know, massaging the numbers.

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You know it's it's true, and
really that's why we've I mean it just

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in general epoch times tries to go
on the conservative numbers, not to try

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and you know, exaggerate things and
just try and play it safe so that

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people can make their own choices.
And then as new information comes out and

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it gets verified, then we can
present it. And that's what we found

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with these with these guidaways on the
media, we're usually seeing give ups that

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that's usually women and children coming through
ports of entry, you know, like

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coming to the front door of America
and they're coming through and they're given amnesty

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to come in. They know they're
going to come in even though so there

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is a different type of illegality on
that. But then there's these guidaways.

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If they're coming through intentionally evading border
patrol, then it means they know they

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wouldn't get in the normal way.
So most cases they have a criminal record,

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and some of them really serious crimes, and they're being a lot of

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them are being caught on the border
by our sheriffs and deputy sheriffs who are

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completely overwhelmed. And that's who you
see front and center. But here's the

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kicker bill is that they're being aided
by Americans. There's American citizens and you

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see this front row in this movie
of all ages, especially targeting news,

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but even adults and their sixties going
to the border and participating in human smuggling,

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and they may not realize that they're
not bringing immigrants in. They're bringing

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illegals who often have a criminal record, are going to go to some town

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maybe near you, and cause havoc
and rhyme. And if you're participating in

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that, it's a real you know
a lot of people don't realize. They

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think they can make a few quick
bucks, but that are betting caught and

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we saw that well. And the
thing is is these illegals that are coming

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across we know this, kay.
I mean the windfall profit for the cartels

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last year was something like thirteen billion
dollars. They own these people coming across

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the border, nobody gets across the
border unless they've gone through the turnstiles of

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the cartels, and so you know, they give them wristbands that my orchist

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didn't even know about, which just
absolutely baffles me. Kay. Yes,

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I went to the border two years
ago myself, and that's when I started

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doing some reporting with Charlotte Cuthbertson,
and we saw the wristbands, we saw

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the trash, all the things that
we see in more commonly in the media

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now, but people weren't talking about
it back then. And we also saw

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and you'll see a bit of this
in the movie, but up close with

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carte members bringing illegal immigrants. But
these are give ups. These are the

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give ups. They're not the godaways. We have a lot of godaways,

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so we don't focus on the give
ups, but you see the cartel members.

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This was one story that shocked me
the most was seeing a cartel member.

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In one night, within just a
few hours, they brought over a

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few hundred illegal immigrants, mostly women
and children, and we had you know,

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I was like twelve pm at night, it was at midnight. It

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was dark, and I was afraid
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thought we might deter them when we
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turning the lights on. They didn't
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lights because it made their job easier, and because there was a lot of

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rocks, and so the illegals were
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and we were just filming them point
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us. And the cartel operator was
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another one came over, took his
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That's one bend in the river one
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authorities were completely overwhelmed. This happens
every night. And just down down in

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another bend where there was no lights
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rafts coming across, probably with goataways, drugs and weapons. Well, and

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that's their strategy, Okay, they
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women and young children. Uh you
know that, you talk about that,

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they they're glad to you know,
receive them and that. But while they're

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busy dealing with them, than the
goataways. And think about this for just

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a moment. One point seven millions
so far, that's a lot of people

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and a lot of danger potentially,
especially when you think, you know,

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nine to eleven for America, wasn't
that far, you know, that far

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down the road, and it only
took nineteen people to do the kind of

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damage that they wrecked on nine to
eleven. And here we are, we're

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letting them end by the hundreds of
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So it's you know, it's different
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where nine to eleven took place,
but it's it's the locals are calling it

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a war zone to some extent because
they cannot they have to board up their

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windows at night, especially the ranches
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these illegal immigrants, these guidaways are
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an hour to get to many of
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of fence to get through, not
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if the cows get out onto the

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road, the rancher is liable for
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they cannot run cattle anymore, and
that affects us here. So there's so

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many flow on effects with these the
car chases, and you see a lot

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of them in the movie high speed
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It's it's extremely dangerous. And this
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in the last five years, in
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before they used to prosecute maybe five
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there's always been some border crime.
Now they've been prosecuting up to five

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hundred or six hundred a month a
month, surprising. And this town only

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has three this county only has three
thousand people. Yet they've prosecuted five thousand

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people in the last two years.
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and that's coming past. They're at
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and four to five them, you
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and that's why everybody's saying that every
stage has become a border state.

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Kate Rubichek Kay Rubichik is with us. She's a producer and editor with Ebic

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Times. Of course we're talking the
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huge numbers, and you know,
and I feel for these farmers. I

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mean, I'm surprised that they're still
holding their ground because how do they defend

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themselves? Kay, I mean,
I'm not hearing any stories where you know,

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they've had to shoot somebody, and
and of course if they're shooting somebody,

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they don't know what they're going to
get back because the car tells us.

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We saw the other day, I
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showing cartel members coming across the border
with automatic weapons. I mean, this

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is like a mini army coming into
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and the ranches have to defend themselves. They have no choice right now.

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They either have to leave the property
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In the movie, we have some
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so many of them, it's very
difficult for them because they have their business

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to run, they have their families
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and things out there publicly that they
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a number of very brave ones who
have testified publicly and a few also that

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came on camera with us and my
goodness, they're they're amazing. But some

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of them that they have to sleep
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they they have their their their wives, they have to have pistols on them

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all the time on the property.
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lot of dead bodies. And that's
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aren't reporting. And here we are, we are. We just got through

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the summer and with the heat,
and what I was hearing k from uh

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you know, from our contacts was
the body count of people they were discovering

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out in the desert, you know, just just dead, you see.

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And this is the thing that's that
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our government is participating in this kind
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slavery is what it comes down to, it really is. And I think

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that's where if we if we can
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on who these people are and everything, then when we do see news reports,

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we can understand them better with our
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just being spoon fed whatever the media
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example, you know, Texas Governor
Rabbit tried to put up a barrier in

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the river, the Rio grand which
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and to deter illegals from coming across. Meanwhile, the Biden administration isn't happy

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about that because they say it could
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the illegals dying with alligators out there. Okay, come on, give

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me a break. I know,
I mean I got to up to Florida.

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Some people have thought about that,
just saying yes exactly. I mean,

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when you know the terrain, it
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no water, and that's why people
are looking for ranches. And these illegals

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are desperate. They've been put into
a desperate situation by the administration who says

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come, but the god aways no, they cannot come through the front door.

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So they're coming through the side door, and they are facing death,

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dehydration and having to deal with ranches. And that's all just coming to a

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head right outside of our ports of
entry. We've got to get people going

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back to the front door. Don't
come in through our basement or the side

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window. You know, it's disrespecting
our homes, it's disrespecting the nation.

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versus now Well, it was made
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debate in twenty nineteen, and we
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just because that's good journalism, right, you see for yourself, it's not

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us saying anything. When Biden was
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people to surge to the border,
and since then, and we list out

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all the things with border and immigration
policy that changed almost immediately after President Biden

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took power then, and you see
just the lowering of all the things that

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had been put into place by the
Trump administration and just the weakening of the

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intentional weakening of the border. And
so seeing the result on the ground is

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what I think can can really help
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if everyone could could talk about this
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if when I thought I knew about
the border, right because I've been reporting

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on it and watching the news,
but when I went there and when I

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saw it, it's like when you
you try to describe a war zone to

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somebody, it's very difficult. And
we try to make war zone movies to

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help people understand the dangers and death
of war. So there hasn't been I

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haven't seen other media go and spend
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week or two and put something together
in a longer format that really makes you

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feel what the people there feel and
then you understand beyond like, don't just

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read the headlines. You have to
feel it. You have to be there,

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and this is a way to do
that. You've got to know it,

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as we said, Kay, you've
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You know, if you're only going
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what's going on. I mean,
keep in mind, up until twenty fifteen

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when Donald Trump came on the scene, nobody talked about the border. You

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know, it just was happening and
it was crazy under the Obama Biden administration,

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but they just didn't even talk about
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the cartels. And if there was
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the idea of this illusion that the
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Now we discovered that the cartels have
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probably involving almost every state of the
Union except for maybe eight. So that

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says something, especially when you talk
about you know, dispensing of drugs and

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fentanol, you know from China,
human sex trafficking that's going on. And

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you know with this new movie Sound
of Freedom, America still is in shock

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to understand that we are the number
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on the planet. I mean,
who could think that the United States would

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be so guilty? And I mean
there's there's two sides to everything, isn't

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there? And I feel like,
because me, I'm a legal immigrant,

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I came to this country twelve years
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the debate. I see the internet
propaganda waged against America and the American people

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to make the American people look down
on themselves and and undermine the greatness that

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this country was founded on. And
then there's then there's the American people falling

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for that. And and I had
people in Australia say to me, why

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would you go to America? You
might become like an American? I said,

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what's so bad about that? I
mean, hey, we since a

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kid, you know, I was
taught that Coca Cola and McDonald's a great

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American food. And we watch Hollywood
movies. What's the problem. But when

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I came here, and I've traveled
to more than twenty states in this great

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nation, and I just find the
American people, the general American people are

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wonderful, true good and kind.
Now, but that's something that can be

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taken advantage of. They try to
make it and they are and they are

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k the bottom line, And that's
a great observation because we the people,

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you know, these people that you're
talking about, which is really the backbone

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of this great American idea, they
are being greatly and gravely misrepresented by their

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elected officials. In my humble opinion, Yes, yes, I definitely agree.

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And it's an international effort too.
There's other global players that are trying

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to do the same thing. And
so it makes us feel like, oh

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no, we are the number one
worst at this and this and this and

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this and this, Whereas I think
what we need to get back to is

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what makes this country great, what
makes the American people great, And it

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really is their openness and kindness.
And that's something that's sure socialists will try

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to take advantage of. But if
we hold to truth, there's nothing to

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fear, nothing to worry about.
And I think with great movies like Sound

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of Freedom coming out, and you
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side. Our movie God Always focus
is more on the smuggling side, and

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if people could know the difference between
the two, it would help us.

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Then we can start to you know, people can start to realize, like,

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maybe I won't participate in human smuggling
because now that I know that's smuggling,

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and if they if they see,
oh, maybe I won't participate in

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clicking on that pawn link. Then
I won't fund that industry that leads to

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child abuse and trafficking and of course
pedophilia or all that, but that's abuse

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either way as far as I'm concerned. So it's by raising awareness and people

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looking at these things because they're hard
to look at, and we often just

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want to push it aside and just
deal with the easy things. But we

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do have to look at these things
now and say I don't want it,

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my family doesn't want it, my
community doesn't want it. We will not

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participate in those things that we know
about because Americans don't do that. And

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the ones who want to participate,
well, they can take the rap for

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that, but it's it's really they
shouldn't be. We shouldn't let that pull

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us all down and feel like,
oh we're hopeless, we we can't do

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anything, because that's also part of
an agenda to make us feel to really

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pull down the spirit of this nation. And I think we have to we

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have to get that back. You
know, we have to remember what we

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stand for. Okay, that's what
you're saying. Uh, you know,

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and it's so critical again, you
know we've been shouting from the timbers on

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this show, is that we must
return to first principles, you know,

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like anything like any good business entrepreneur, you know, producer, editor,

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you know, when you feel like
maybe you've lost a little bit, you

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get you go back, you pause
for a moment and say, let's go

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back and find out where I made
the wrong turn. And this country has

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that opportunity still right now to do
this because like you just cited, there

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are many good people here in this
country. And that's what gives me hope.

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Kay. Uh. You know I
uh, you know, I I

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enlisted in the Marine Corps to defend
this country, to defend the constitution.

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My brothers as well. Uh,
you know, we're represented in one form

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or another during Vietnam, our father
during World War Two. We believe in

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this country. We're proud of this
country, and we're proud of the people

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in it. We definitely have our
problems and issues with those who don't care

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about this country and want to destroy
it now, and that's that's where it

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begins and that's where it ends,
and I will continue to fight for everybody

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for the sake of the constitution.
Those are first principles, and the invitation

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is for us in mass to remember
what it's all about. It's not about

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a party, you know, it's
not about a Democratic party or Republican party.

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It's not about a president or anybody
like that. It's about America.

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It's those true core principles that we
can all rally around believe in, and

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then you know, going forward to
make sure that the people that we elect

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into office feel the same way and
they act the same way. Sadly,

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as I mentioned referred to here slightly, is that America has been misrepresented by

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its elected officials, and to me
it board as treason. Yes, yes,

408
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I mean, we put those people
in place, and we have to

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hold them accountable exactly. You know, I often refersh whether and whether or

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not. You could say, well
they lied to us. It doesn't matter,

411
00:31:25.480 --> 00:31:27.839
okay, And we get a chance
to change things every two years when

412
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it comes to the House every four
years on a general election, and we

413
00:31:32.960 --> 00:31:37.799
have to make sure that our elections
going forward are truly free, fair and

414
00:31:37.880 --> 00:31:45.160
transparent, and that it truly is
the consent of the govern not some manufactured

415
00:31:45.599 --> 00:31:51.680
vote vote count that's somebody else is
manufactured. I agree, and I think

416
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that a big part of it is
that media education, big corporations try to

417
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disempower us and make has feel that
we as an individual don't don't count and

418
00:32:04.440 --> 00:32:07.000
really can't make a difference. And
I have so many people say to me,

419
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well, what can I do?
It's just me, And I say,

420
00:32:09.640 --> 00:32:15.720
well, that's exactly the point.
And that's that's what you know.

421
00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:17.599
Any form of tyranny, and I've
studied a lot of forms of tyranny,

422
00:32:17.720 --> 00:32:23.880
especially under communism, is they what
keeps a tyrannical dictator up at night is

423
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the fear that you, as an
individual or me won't be controlled by them,

424
00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:36.359
that our minds will break free of
their manipulation and we will say no,

425
00:32:37.160 --> 00:32:39.200
because you can't control me. I
was created by something greater than you.

426
00:32:39.200 --> 00:32:45.319
You're not God as far as I'm
concerned, then that means that I

427
00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:49.720
have I have power in my own
right. I was created in a miraculous

428
00:32:49.759 --> 00:32:53.119
ways, as every human being was. So when when that starts to get

429
00:32:53.200 --> 00:32:59.359
undermined, you start to see yourself
as worthless as individuals, as as hopeless,

430
00:32:59.400 --> 00:33:00.440
and then you start to feel like, well, I can't do anything.

431
00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:04.240
I need big government to take care
of me. And you hand over

432
00:33:04.279 --> 00:33:07.039
your power. Once it's gone,
it is very hard to get it back.

433
00:33:07.119 --> 00:33:10.160
So we need to rekindle that sense
of hope and humanity and value of

434
00:33:10.240 --> 00:33:15.319
like, wow, we're all pretty
miraculous, just walking talking miracles when you

435
00:33:15.359 --> 00:33:21.519
think about it, really, science
cannot explain the miracles of human life and

436
00:33:21.559 --> 00:33:24.240
they've never been able to, so
try as they might control it. Yeah,

437
00:33:24.799 --> 00:33:29.240
it's so laughable. Okay, to
your point, and you know,

438
00:33:29.599 --> 00:33:34.279
you get back to that old axiom. He who is willing to surrender their

439
00:33:34.359 --> 00:33:39.160
freedom for security is not worthy of
any And I think we've seen this in

440
00:33:39.200 --> 00:33:43.640
recent history. If you go back
and the things that you're referring to,

441
00:33:44.000 --> 00:33:46.559
and you look back and just in
the you know, the most recent historical

442
00:33:46.720 --> 00:33:53.839
record of other countries who have fallen
victim and began to perceive themselves as less

443
00:33:53.839 --> 00:33:58.720
than I mean, look what happened
in Germany during World War Two. You're

444
00:33:58.720 --> 00:34:05.680
talking maybe ten percent of Germany were
Nazis. And this was Germany was a

445
00:34:05.720 --> 00:34:14.159
once vibrant Christian, godfearing nation and
ninety percent of them ended up finding themselves

446
00:34:14.360 --> 00:34:20.599
under the boot of the fewer and
Nazi Germany. Yes, it's devastating.

447
00:34:20.760 --> 00:34:28.280
And my family escaped Soviet Russia.
They were Russians, great grandparents were Russians,

448
00:34:28.320 --> 00:34:30.280
and then the Bolsheviks came in and
it only took a few of them,

449
00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:35.320
a few thousand, like two thousand
or so to take over. They

450
00:34:35.440 --> 00:34:42.159
had money from other other very wealthy
supporters outside of the country who helped to

451
00:34:42.199 --> 00:34:46.440
fund so there was still that collaboration
between outsiders and a few people on the

452
00:34:46.480 --> 00:34:52.599
ground trying to do that. And
so they had to escape and they actually

453
00:34:52.639 --> 00:34:55.320
they went to China, where my
father was born and raised as a young

454
00:34:55.440 --> 00:34:59.920
Russian boy living in northeast China.
But then the Communist Party took over there

455
00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:06.840
and they were very fortunate to get
out during the famine time and came to

456
00:35:06.880 --> 00:35:12.840
Australia and in Another point is my
husband's family escaped the former Czechoslovakia before the

457
00:35:12.840 --> 00:35:15.199
Berlin War fell, and he was
a young boy, and and so I

458
00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:19.559
look at, you know, my
family's history, and when I say to

459
00:35:19.639 --> 00:35:22.039
people, you know, I mean
my story is not really unique. I

460
00:35:22.039 --> 00:35:28.360
can three times escaping communism maybe,
but really, I think everybody knows someone

461
00:35:29.400 --> 00:35:35.159
that comes from a country that they
came here to escape tyranny, oppression off

462
00:35:35.320 --> 00:35:38.679
very often by a communist regime,
and they've come here because there is nowhere

463
00:35:38.840 --> 00:35:43.760
left to run. And that is
that is the truth. Everyone's looking to

464
00:35:43.800 --> 00:35:46.199
America and saying, what are your
Americans going to do? Are you going

465
00:35:46.280 --> 00:35:51.480
to to just give in like the
other countries. We've got the benefit of

466
00:35:51.559 --> 00:35:54.079
learning from the other countries and also
the foundation of this nation, so we've

467
00:35:54.079 --> 00:36:00.360
got to utilize Maybe we should reread
what Tokerville had to say is observation about

468
00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:05.079
this great country, right. I
think maybe that might help us get to

469
00:36:05.159 --> 00:36:09.840
first principles as well. Kay Ribcheck
is with US producer and editor with the

470
00:36:09.920 --> 00:36:15.559
new Epic Times UH documentary Gotaways.
We're gonna talk more about that in just

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00:36:15.599 --> 00:36:19.360
a moment, But you know,
Kay, you touched on something here that

472
00:36:19.559 --> 00:36:23.960
I want our viewers to really grasp
here, and that is, uh,

473
00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:30.159
you know, this illusion of what
happens these outside power brokers who come in

474
00:36:30.599 --> 00:36:37.079
and support the face of power,
promising you know, collective peace and uh,

475
00:36:37.679 --> 00:36:42.920
you know, prosperity for everybody,
all these good things that they know

476
00:36:43.079 --> 00:36:46.480
darn well they can't deliver, but
they're they're very convincing and charming, and

477
00:36:46.519 --> 00:36:54.440
they're able to take power away from
people and they centralize it and the people

478
00:36:54.519 --> 00:37:00.880
that end up with it eventually all
goes back to those people that invested in

479
00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:05.320
the revolution to begin with, right, right, And you know, we

480
00:37:05.440 --> 00:37:09.760
have this benefit of seeing that throughout
history again and again and again. But

481
00:37:10.239 --> 00:37:15.599
we're being persuaded by media and technology. And I'm not against technology or whatever,

482
00:37:15.639 --> 00:37:20.880
but I'm just very aware that when
you start, you know, before

483
00:37:20.880 --> 00:37:23.400
we used to read books, you
have to turn a page. It takes

484
00:37:23.440 --> 00:37:27.840
a bit longer, right, you
can't just you know, just scroll through

485
00:37:28.119 --> 00:37:31.199
or use an automatic reader or double
speed whatever. Then we started reading on

486
00:37:31.320 --> 00:37:37.599
computers and then now we're reading now
we're not even reading, it's just scrolling.

487
00:37:37.000 --> 00:37:44.880
So this kind of a short term
attention and it's making us think short

488
00:37:44.960 --> 00:37:50.800
term, whereas those who are conspiring
to maintain power, they have a very

489
00:37:50.920 --> 00:37:55.840
long term plan exactly. And that's
where the cartels and others working with them,

490
00:37:57.000 --> 00:38:00.320
they are thinking long term, and
they want us to be distracted did

491
00:38:00.599 --> 00:38:04.360
so that we will forget the crimes
that they committed in the past and all

492
00:38:04.400 --> 00:38:07.440
the history lessons that we can learn
from, and we won't hold them accountable.

493
00:38:07.880 --> 00:38:12.800
All we have to do is remember
the past, learn from it and

494
00:38:13.039 --> 00:38:17.880
not get sucked into this short term
exactly, and just yes, say no,

495
00:38:17.880 --> 00:38:21.440
no, these are my values.
No, you crossed the line.

496
00:38:21.920 --> 00:38:24.199
We're going to hold you accountable because
we can. We can do that and

497
00:38:24.239 --> 00:38:28.679
it's very it's very doable. Well, okay, And what you say is

498
00:38:28.719 --> 00:38:31.599
that in touching on is that it
is so critical for us to have a

499
00:38:31.719 --> 00:38:36.480
united mindset, a united mindset for
the greater good. That's why I say

500
00:38:36.519 --> 00:38:38.559
it's not about the Democratic Party,
the Republican Party. It has to be

501
00:38:38.760 --> 00:38:43.960
about America because what they love right
now, what they've done to us is

502
00:38:44.039 --> 00:38:49.519
we've siloed ourselves. So now we're
our self you know, propelling, you

503
00:38:49.559 --> 00:38:52.559
know, echo chamber. And in
the process of doing that, as Jordan

504
00:38:52.599 --> 00:38:59.679
Peterson says, we render ourselves stupid
because you have taken away fifty percent of

505
00:38:59.679 --> 00:39:06.480
the telligentsia that could contribute to your
intellectual growth, but stubbornly, because you've

506
00:39:06.480 --> 00:39:10.599
bought into this narrative and this victimization
and what they've thrust upon our culture.

507
00:39:10.880 --> 00:39:16.039
And now we're looking at our neighbor
not as somebody who is a unique,

508
00:39:16.119 --> 00:39:21.360
you know, miracle created by God
with the same ineligible rights as us.

509
00:39:21.639 --> 00:39:27.159
We start looking them as enemies and
we silo ourselves away from them, and

510
00:39:27.280 --> 00:39:34.440
heaven knows what neighbor or you know, maybe a coworker that has that missing

511
00:39:34.519 --> 00:39:42.519
puzzle piece for our fulfillment in life, and how much that just your recognition

512
00:39:42.719 --> 00:39:47.800
of them could help them survive.
Right, so many people are really suffering.

513
00:39:47.840 --> 00:39:51.840
The suicide rates, the drug abuse
rates have just gone through the roof

514
00:39:51.840 --> 00:39:55.039
because people are isolated. As you
said, they're not only in silos,

515
00:39:55.119 --> 00:40:00.320
they're completely feeling isolated. And really
this is a a tactic right out of

516
00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:07.519
the Marxist Communist learninist playbooks of divide
and conquer, always creating struggle, creating

517
00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:12.559
division, and using that to separate
people, because then if you break down

518
00:40:12.719 --> 00:40:17.719
society, you create barriers between the
things that protect people and the biggest protections.

519
00:40:17.719 --> 00:40:22.159
I've done a lot of research on
brainwashing studies actually and how people survive

520
00:40:22.280 --> 00:40:29.159
brainwashing, and one of the biggest
protections to survive brainwashing through scientific studies and

521
00:40:29.559 --> 00:40:34.800
also my own interviews and observations is
a strong family unit. If you have

522
00:40:34.880 --> 00:40:38.159
a strong family unit, you can
get through anything. But if the government

523
00:40:38.559 --> 00:40:45.880
or the big authoritarians, tyrannical authoritarians
can break that down and separate you from

524
00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:51.280
your community, separate you from your
family you have, you just become flapping

525
00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:54.920
in the wind and you will just
be perfect target for them. They will

526
00:40:54.960 --> 00:40:59.440
give you something. You'll just say, Okay, great, that's just what

527
00:40:59.519 --> 00:41:04.440
I need to survive. Money,
whatever it is. You'll you'll be grateful,

528
00:41:04.840 --> 00:41:09.079
and then you'll do whatever they say
you settle exactly, and then you'll

529
00:41:09.119 --> 00:41:13.920
follow whatever mindset that's given rather than
following the truth. You won't see the

530
00:41:13.920 --> 00:41:16.599
truth anymore, because all you'll see
is that's my you know, that's big

531
00:41:16.639 --> 00:41:22.119
brother there, and they're giving me
a paycheck exactly. It'll keep you quiet,

532
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:23.119
you know, okay. To hear
you talk. It reminds me a

533
00:41:23.159 --> 00:41:29.639
story of a young man in grade
school through going to high school as freshman

534
00:41:29.760 --> 00:41:31.960
high school, and he was just
one of these kids that the kids loved

535
00:41:31.960 --> 00:41:38.519
to pick on, and they just
be rated this kid incessantly. And one

536
00:41:38.599 --> 00:41:44.119
day as he was going home,
some bullies came and he had his arms

537
00:41:44.159 --> 00:41:47.679
full of his books to take home
for study, and the kids came by

538
00:41:47.719 --> 00:41:51.679
and just knocked the books out of
his hands. You know, everything's flying

539
00:41:51.719 --> 00:41:54.719
all over the ground and everything.
And this other kid, uh, you

540
00:41:54.760 --> 00:41:59.320
know, felt sorry for him and
reached down and picked up his books and

541
00:41:59.440 --> 00:42:05.079
helped him, you know, kind
of gather himself together. And fast forward

542
00:42:05.199 --> 00:42:09.480
four years later, this same young
man was the valedictorian of the high school

543
00:42:10.239 --> 00:42:15.760
and he related the story. He
said that that day, because of all

544
00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:20.920
the bullying he had been subjected to, he was on his way home to

545
00:42:20.960 --> 00:42:24.760
commit suicide. He had given up. But for this one man, this

546
00:42:24.800 --> 00:42:30.119
one young boy who stopped to help
and pick up his books, That's what

547
00:42:30.280 --> 00:42:32.880
gave him hope. You know,
to your point, you just don't know

548
00:42:32.920 --> 00:42:36.800
what it is, what it is
that you're going to offer a fellow humanoid

549
00:42:37.119 --> 00:42:39.599
in this journey of life, and
what a difference it could be. So

550
00:42:40.079 --> 00:42:46.559
but for this young man stopping and
extending a hand of grace and help toward

551
00:42:46.599 --> 00:42:52.400
a fellow humanoid, a fellow classmate. He saves this life of this kid.

552
00:42:52.599 --> 00:42:59.039
And oh my goodness to hear the
eloquence of this young man and his

553
00:42:59.159 --> 00:43:01.599
valedictorian speech. I mean, I
don't think there was a dry eye in

554
00:43:01.599 --> 00:43:06.679
the house, Cake, And you
think what a waste that would have been

555
00:43:06.920 --> 00:43:12.039
if he didn't have if he didn't
survive to tell that story exactly, and

556
00:43:12.760 --> 00:43:16.840
I interviewed probably more than a hundred
survivors of communist regimes, and one of

557
00:43:16.840 --> 00:43:21.880
them, a woman, related a
story to me about how when she was

558
00:43:21.920 --> 00:43:24.599
in a slave labor prison camp in
China, a religious prisoner, she hadn't

559
00:43:24.639 --> 00:43:31.639
done anything wrong, hadn't technically broken
any law. The guard's slave labor prison

560
00:43:31.679 --> 00:43:37.760
camp guards were so determined to stop
any of them from making eye contact with

561
00:43:37.800 --> 00:43:42.119
each other, because if those innocent
prisoners made eye contact with each other,

562
00:43:42.599 --> 00:43:46.760
that glimmer of spark of hope that
says I'm not broken. And she said,

563
00:43:46.800 --> 00:43:51.800
you know what was even more powerful
than an eye contact, a smile.

564
00:43:52.239 --> 00:43:55.320
Oh my goodness, if someone smiled, one of the prisoners smiled to

565
00:43:55.320 --> 00:44:00.920
the others, even a wry smile
or anything. The other people instantly felt

566
00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:05.679
that hope of like they're here,
I can do it too. I'm going

567
00:44:05.760 --> 00:44:07.119
to do it too, you know. Being a man of faith, I

568
00:44:07.159 --> 00:44:10.719
read and the Word of God talks
about a word aptly spoken. And we

569
00:44:10.760 --> 00:44:14.840
often talk about this on the show, is that you just never know,

570
00:44:15.039 --> 00:44:19.360
and we have said many times sometimes
it isn't a word, it's just a

571
00:44:19.519 --> 00:44:23.039
gesture, a smile, a reassurance
that hey, you know what, I'm

572
00:44:23.119 --> 00:44:29.119
there with you, you know,
to encourage a fellow journey person that is

573
00:44:29.159 --> 00:44:34.519
going through, you know, this
time and period of life together. Okay,

574
00:44:34.559 --> 00:44:37.280
we're check. We got about six
minutes left here. Kay. By

575
00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:42.519
the way, lady once again producer
editor with Epic Times, and we were

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00:44:42.559 --> 00:44:46.519
talking about godaways and what's going on
at the Southern Border. I want to

577
00:44:46.519 --> 00:44:50.559
feel the rest of this time if
we could, Kay, because you shared

578
00:44:50.639 --> 00:44:53.400
some of the stories, and there's
probably so many stories in the as they

579
00:44:53.480 --> 00:44:58.320
used to say in the TV series
in the Naked City here that you have

580
00:44:58.440 --> 00:45:02.840
to share that could bring perspective and
humanity to what's going on at the Southern

581
00:45:02.880 --> 00:45:07.000
Border. So I'm gonna let you
share with us. Go ahead, yes,

582
00:45:07.480 --> 00:45:13.320
And it really is that because it's
not talking heads people sitting there and

583
00:45:13.400 --> 00:45:16.760
just telling you facts and figures and
all of that. It's you get taken

584
00:45:16.920 --> 00:45:23.760
in the cars with the sheriffs and
you see the people that are being arrested

585
00:45:23.800 --> 00:45:28.880
and what they're being arrested for,
and the Americans in doing the smuggling,

586
00:45:29.400 --> 00:45:36.119
the illegal criminals, illegal aliens coming
in and others who are bringing them a

587
00:45:36.119 --> 00:45:42.159
cross, cartel members, traffickers,
you see some of those. Our director

588
00:45:42.199 --> 00:45:45.199
even went over to Mexico and this
is something I've never seen before either.

589
00:45:45.199 --> 00:45:49.840
There's so much footage in this movie
that I guarantee you have never seen anyway

590
00:45:49.840 --> 00:45:53.000
before. No one has spent no
journalists have done this type of coverage.

591
00:45:53.280 --> 00:46:00.000
She even went over to Mexico numerous
times and quietly filmed illegal immigrants coming over

592
00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:04.199
the river. And you see them. They're all who they are, and

593
00:46:04.639 --> 00:46:06.880
I won't tell you who they are, but you'll see it's not who you

594
00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:10.159
expect, and what they're wearing and
what they do, and then they how

595
00:46:10.199 --> 00:46:15.760
they prepare themselves to cross the river. It's absolutely shocking and all of this

596
00:46:16.159 --> 00:46:20.880
is just you have to see it
to believe it. Because I could tell

597
00:46:20.880 --> 00:46:24.880
you all the stories, but you
would probably it's it's hard to believe until

598
00:46:24.920 --> 00:46:28.360
you see it. Well, give
us an idea, Kay, what do

599
00:46:28.440 --> 00:46:31.760
they do to prepare here? They've
been walking thousands, more than two thousand

600
00:46:31.800 --> 00:46:37.280
miles to come, you know,
they're traveling north our southern border. What

601
00:46:37.320 --> 00:46:40.599
do they do in the last part
of the journey to prepare the crossing?

602
00:46:42.519 --> 00:46:45.199
Well, don't assume anything, you
know, we're all assuming that they're just

603
00:46:45.239 --> 00:46:49.960
coming from south of Mexico. They're
from Mexico, They're coming from everywhere.

604
00:46:50.119 --> 00:46:52.760
Oh yeah, we know China.
China is sending them in. They're doing

605
00:46:52.880 --> 00:46:58.280
I think staging if I'm hearing this
correctly. The last report I got k

606
00:46:58.440 --> 00:47:05.199
they're staging these young battle you know
ready men, uh, you know,

607
00:47:05.599 --> 00:47:09.679
very viral men. They're in Brazil
and they're sneaking and you know, through

608
00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:14.320
the border. And of course for
the cartel, this is an added windfall

609
00:47:14.360 --> 00:47:19.840
profit because they're the Chinese are paying
a premium to come across the border.

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Yes, and oftentimes we've been asking
how much people are paying, and it's

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there's a big range of how much
are paying. People are paying. We

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don't always you know, you can't
always verify the numbers, and people often

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lie to you front at the beginning, and there's there's a woman, i

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think somewhere from the Midwest of America, and she hired a U haul truck

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and when when she was pulled up
and the police officer said, do you

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know the people in the back,
she said, oh, no, I'm

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just picking them up. The car
broke down and everything. But you know,

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our authorities, they these guys know
how to get the information out.

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Turns out she was being paid thousands
per head to bring them over the border,

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and now she's getting arrested and charged
for I think it was three or

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four counts of human smuggling. And
and there's there's places they're trying to circumvent

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the checkpoint and it's not random.
And that's that's what you'll also see in

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this movie is that there's the illegal
immigrants are coming to certain checkpoints in Mexico.

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Some are coming by bus, and
then they come by taxi and they

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go the next leg and then they
walk a certain route which our director followed

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them down. So this is not
prescribed. They have a map and designated

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area and trail they are to follow
right correct yes, yes, wow.

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And when you see them crossing the
river, there's nobody there and it's it's

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just unbelievable. And there's there's another
another, another stories, a few stories

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in there where you see a man
with women and a group of women and

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he's holding a baby, but the
women are scared across the river. It's

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a very dangerous part of the river. It's very rapid, and he's saying

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to them, come on, come
on, ma'am. You know, the

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women are crying, they're scared,
and they probably can't swim, and they're

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not tall, and he's saying,
come on, come on. He's definitely

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not a father figure. He's definitely
not a brother or a cousin or an

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uncle. He's not a relative.
These are most likely traffickers and we've got

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them on camera. So that's just
shocking. Well, Kay Rubby check from

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the Epic Times, the producer and
editor. Kay remind everybody how they can

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view this documentary. Go to Godaway's
film dot com and if you're already a

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subscriber to Epoch TV, you've got
free access. It's an hour long.

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If not, then just for a
couple of dollars, you can watch the

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movie you get a free trial,
get a trial, and watch the movie

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Gotaways Film dot com. Tar We're
so blessed to have Kay Rubby check with

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us. Kay. I cannot thank
you enough for all the information and great

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work that you're doing on behalf of
freedom for the American people. Thank you

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so much for being with us,
Thanks for all you do, and thanks

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for having me. You got it
for more information and to be a part

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of this mighty Martinis movement to return
to God and to save our country.

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Check it out Bill Martinez Show dot
com. May God bless you and keep

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you, and make his face shine
upon you, and may He be gracious

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unto you and give you his peace. Go and be blessed to bless others.

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Thanks for being with us.