Bill Martinez Live
Sept. 15, 2025

The Legacy of Charlie James Kirk Lives On

The Legacy of Charlie James Kirk Lives On
The Legacy of Charlie James Kirk Lives On
Bill Martinez Live
The Legacy of Charlie James Kirk Lives On

The ideology of any spiritual or political figure can be measured by its legacy. Does it end with the demise of the figure who championed it? Or does it go forth even stronger than before? Only time will tell if Charlie Kirk's vision of Turning Point will go forth even stronger or fade into history as some are hoping. Odds are the millions who follow Kirk not only here in America, but around the world and the solid rock principles he espoused are essential to a legacy. Join me as we discuss.

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0:00 The topics and opinions expressed in the following show are solely those of the hosts and their guests, and not those of W FORCY Radio. It's employees are affiliates. We make no recommendations or endorsements for radio show programs, services, or products mentioned on air or on our web. No liability, explicit or implied shall be extended to W FOURCY Radio or its employees are affiliates. Any questions or comments should be directed to those show hosts. Thank you for choosing W FOURCY Radio. Well, good afternoon, glad you could join us. I'm Bill Martinez and we're going to talk about the legacy of Charles Charles James Kirk. You know, my wife pointed out that James Kirk must have been his parents must have been Star Trek fans. I don't know that for a fact, but you know, it just kind of just sticks out that his middle name was James, and of course hurt, you know, why not. But anyway, a lot to discuss about Charlie. It's it's kind of hard to imagine here's a fellow citizen who loved this country and wanted the best for each of us to be treated in the manner which he's been treated. Yes, I get greatly honored, not only here in the United States but around the world, which just says something about this thirty one year old, I guess, iconic generational figure. Many have thought that. In fact, my good friend Dennis Brager, and I'm going to read

1:30 an email from him in just a moment, said that Charlie was probably on a trajectory to become a potential presidential candidate down the road. And I think Dennis is spot on with that, you know, with that consideration, because he was just he was just so sharp. And I know the kids, you know where he went to, you know, in these universities, some of the kids would make fun of him because he didn't have a degree. And then he challenged the head and you know, asked him, you know, a Socratic question, you know, well, how's this, how's this working out for you? Is your future look bright? Do you look like you're going to be very successful with your degree? You know, because there's lots of other people ahead of you right now that aren't doing too well with degrees. And Charlie, when he went to a school and went to college, I think he maybe a semester maybe somewhere, maybe most was the year. I think anyway, he realized that it just didn't fit, it wasn't for him.

2:28 And so has he declared himself he's he's self taught and no question about it that he is uber intellectual. He has the IQ and he was also just of an incredible inquiring mind. Bill Fetterer another dear friend. In fact, I'm doing a show tomorrow with Bill on our Daily Show at Bill Martinez Show dot com. You can tune in for that because he'll be on for the whole hour. We're going to talk about constitution and Constitution Day you know this week, by the way, in case you didn't know or forgot, a critical day I believe in our nation's history is to understand the Constitution. When there's so many people that don't, you know, even with the people, there's a result we're left ignorant and we're left in a position to be manipulated because we don't know when we fail to understand the dynamics of the Constitution how to protect us now, to protect one another. And so anyway, we're going to talk about that, but more specifically, we're going to spend some time in talking about Charlie Kirk.

3:32 Bill and Charlie were very very close, communicated on a weekly basis, emails back and forth, and Bill, you know, shares those emails with us, and you know, so needless to say, there's a good portion of the country that is still in shock and processing you know what happened. You know, how how could this happen? You know? And I can tell you in many ways, Charlie and I were very much aligned. You know, our love for country, I love for the Constitution, but more importantly is our love for Jesus Christ and our faith. And I think this is one of the things that a lot of people didn't quite understand about Charlie. What what drove him and what made him so effective, And it started with his heart. He had a pure heart, and his heart was you know, toward people looking at them like the Bible says, made in the image of God. When you consider another person that your eye to eye with and having a conversation that they're made in the image of God.

4:34 You know, there's no class structure here. You know, as one theologian said, I have never as a result of that, he says, I've never met a mere mortal, and I can tell you I tried to live my life that way. I've tried to live my life in such a way that I didn't look at somebody in a less than position. And I don't know, maybe because where I was raised, and you know, the family that I came from. You know my parents, he had actually their grandparents had immigrated to the United States, and my dad served in World War Two. He was with Patent and the European Theater at the Battle of the Bulge. He was a medic. Three of his sons, including myself and my two other brothers, served in the military during the Vietnam War. My number two brother was more in the in the heat of it.

5:22 He was in combat. My oldest brother was a staff sergeant. I think about as closely got to it was the Nang And then I ended up. You know, I'd have been the third brother. It's like saving Private Ryan right and his things would work out. Because of my broadcasting career, I ended up doing Good Morning Camp Pendleton. You may have heard me relate that story before, so I tell people, yeah, I did Good Morning Camp Pendleton. Not quite as funny as Robin Williams, and certainly if I'd have been anywhere close to funny as funny as Robin Williams. I'd had been kicked out of the Marine Corps. But you know, I was blessed to serve the country, and it was my honor to do that, as it is for anybody that serves our country in the military. It's an absolute honor.

6:08 And and we're grateful. We're grateful that people will say, hey, thank you for your service, and it's very very kind and respectful, uh to honor and uh and I you know, for me, I mean, you know, I I honor you know, our fellow veterans, especially those that fought in combat. And thank god, it's such a small percentage, but nonetheless, uh, you know, we lost some uh that were kiad Uh, some that are still a live today, but you know carry the wounds of Vietnam as they do in other wars that have happened since then. And so anyway, that's that's all part of my heart. But getting back to Charlie's position, and this is something that people, you know, unless you're unless you're a faith it may you may not understand the context and why Charlie was so humble and uh. And also why you know, people were so quick to kind of put words in his mouth and to assign assigned to him some sort of ideology that was, you know, first from the truth in my in my humble opinion. I mean, you may have disagreed with him, and that's okay. I think that that's important. It's the first amendment, right, I mean, of all amendments. I mean, why would that be the first amendment? You know, our founding fathers realized that freedom of speech and was so critical to the advancement of Western civilization that we must be open to have conversation. If we're canceling one another, then you know, you may have heard me say this before,

7:38 is we render ourselves stupid. It's it's very uneducated, you know, to to do that, to cancel somebody, not listen to them. As my father used to say, you know, you need to listen to the other side because you don't know what part of the puzzle that you're missing that could fit and just makes sense all of a sudden, you know, light bulbs go on. You know what I'm talking about, and it makes sense and and maybe and and the deal is, I got to tell you I have to left because I still hear my father telling me this, and you know that, hey, just slow down, be patient, listen to what the person is saying. And you'd also say, listen to their heart. And because you can get a lot from listening to another person's heart. You can you can hear their pain, you can feel their pain and uh and and that stuff that maybe you know, agitating you and annoying you. It's it's out of their pain.

8:28 But if we think, you know, that it's against us and it's our responsibility, which it isn't. You know, you're not there, you're not the you're not the cause of it. You're just kind of associated with it because you happen to take a position that right now they perceive, you know, is real pain for them. And all that's fine. But you know, if if you talk it out, and I can say in those cases when I've been able to be successful in doing that, you sense the temperature goes down, there's calm uh, there's an understanding between both sides that elevates the conversation and achieves a better solution. And that's why we've maintained on this show that our goal is not about parties, not about the Democrat Party or Republican Party.

9:16 I think this is one of the worst things that our country. And we were warned, our founding fathers warned us, and George Washington is that party is going to be the end of us soon as we have parties and it's us against them, it's the red shirts against the blue shirts, or you know, kind of deal and you're at each other's throats and it's all a competitive deal, and you lose sight of what's most important. What's most important is this great American idea that is right there in the Declaration of Independence in our constitution, that lays out the rules of play in which all of us can be successful and attain things that are beyond our imagination. I mean, this is why people want to come to this country because of the opportunity that is here and that needs to be protected. And is saying in course thing is that we protect that in such a way so that it's not an orchestrated equity, because as soon as you do that, then you you've screwed everything up because it's no longer equitable. You want, you want to have a fair shot at it, and that's that's the critical thing. And you know, Charlie, believe in that. I believe in that. I believe that that's what makes things things fair, is that you have a fair shot that to exercise the giftings and talents that God has blessed you with, because I think one of the biggest frustrating things is for you to be having a talent and it'll wake you up in the middle of the night and frustrate the Holy what have you? Autio. Or if you're working for another organization and you're what I characterize a round peg in a square hole, well, those those friction points, because those where you're not fitting and you get these friction points going on, that just agitates you

10:48 to no end and you're not a fun employee to work with, right and uh and on many levels, you know, because when you go and work for an organization, not only do you want this organization as a seed, but you want those around you to succeed and to be elevated. And if you're working together, then you can elevate one another and be able to do a lot more together than you can apart. And I've been blessed in several occasions in my life to work with organizations and be able to exercise that philosophy. And I can tell you when we did that, we were extremely successful. Everybody on the team was blessed. They you know, surpassed their economic goals and their earning goals and that It was a lot of lot of fun. But for me, the biggest fun for me was to watch them grow and watch them accept one another, to really be a team as diverse as it was. You know, we had a good mix of you know, men and women from you know races and you know, different races and that, and you know, here's here, here I am, you know, blessed to lead the team, and it was such an honor. But our attitude was that, look at we're going to respect one another.

12:03 We were going to come alongside one another and do what we could to help one another. And everybody won that way. So again, my philosophy is like Charlie's was, was that it was you know, for the good of all concern. And what made it good was because it started with the word of God. You know, words matter, and these I say to these people, and this isn't you know the first time we've talked about this, because I've been warning, been warning you for the last couple of years, the rhetoric was getting amped up in such a way that somebody was going to get hurt. And you cannot tell me that the assassination of you know, Charlie Kirk was just coincidental. They had nothing to do with the sentiment and the words that were put out there, you know, people calling him a fascist, like, how do you how do you come up with that? I mean, I've watched a lot Charlie Kirk's videos and there's not any one time that I could come around and come away from and say, oh, you know, he's overstepped. It's he's a fascist. You know. But we use these terms so loosely, and we assign them to our opponents in such a way that it is dangerous. It's it's worse than yelling, you know, fire in a crowded theater. It's worse.

13:17 And this has been going on for a long time. And I agree with the Vice President, you know that it seems to be coming more from one side and the other, and I get it. The general context is, you know, we say, well, you know, what happens on both sides, you know, because we're trying to be fair minded. I guess but when you don't place blame where it needs to be placed, then the people that deserve the blame are somewhat exonerated. And I said this the other day, is that because consequences are dulled out in a universal way and done so to ameliate the offense, the person that deserves the consequence doesn't feel the full brunt of their actions. That makes sense, Hey, it's somewhat ameliated. It's homogenized in such a way it softens the blow. Well, by softening the blow, we reduce the effectiveness of you know, of the consequence. And as a result, you know, like we've had here in our country. In some states, it's okay to steal up to one thousand dollars worth of worth of goods, no arm, no foul, you need jews the intentions, go steal them. You know you need you need a dress, Go steal the dress. Okay, you're not going to go to jail. So right, some of these it's insane, right, I mean, how do you live that?

14:38 It's just you know, it's it's uncivil. It's nonsense, you know, because I can't even imagine even if you got away with it in the short time that your conscience said some point wouldn't catch up with you, or that maybe you'd run out of you know, those thousand dollars. I don't know, opportunities or whatever. You know, you might slip over and oh, well, you know you got eleven hundred dollars worth or I don't know. It's just it's all absurd. And what's happening is you've got stores as a result in these local communities that serve these local communities, you know they're moving out. Yeah, they got upset and they you know, tired of losing money. I mean it's very painful.

15:19 And you know they lock up stuff. You go in, you go, I just wanted to, you know, to a toothpaste. Oh you got to go. You got to wait for somebody to come in with a key unlocked, you know, the unlocked the shelf so you can get your tube of toothpaste. I mean, this is America. Are you kidding me? This is what's come down to. And the thing is is that, you know, quit fooling yourself. Look at who the perpetrators are. And I know, you know, people don't want to admit it. They don't want to you know, say it, just like they don't want to say, well, you know, all this rhetoric and everything is coming from one political spectrum. You know, when I was in political science classes in college, you know, we talked about the lunatic fringe. Well, you know, we're living with the lunatic fringe, and they are picking crazy, crazy to such a degree that they would justify murdering murdering a figure, a generational figure like Charlie Kirk, and it didn't even have to be Charlie, could be anybody. And these murders are happening, you know, are across our country, and we sit there and we look at what happens in Chicago, for example.

16:25 Oh you know, it's like it's not that bad, well, not that bad for you because one of your kids wasn't one of the six or eight people that got killed, all right, And every weekend this keeps on happening. I mean, it's almost like, you know, speaking of Vietnam, it's almost like we've become numb to it. You know. I remember when I was growing up, and you know, before you know, I went in the military, we'd get these body counts and these casualty reports every night, right, and it just got to be like it was just part of the TV set. It became meaningless, and he realized that, wow, you know we're talking you know, we're talking a lot lot of people, hundreds of thousands of young kids, you know my age, younger even you know that are going in there and they're no more and you know, in their families, and like we we had reported here a couple of weeks ago with George Lutz, you know, for them, every day's Memorial Day. You know, this is why we're supporting you know, the Honor Flag, the Honor and Tribute Flag that George Lutz has created in this campaign because you know, we want to support these these families who have lost a loved one in military service and they're gone forever, I mean, for the rest of their lives.

17:39 The family will be caring that whole in their heart of their loved one, you know, these these gold Star families. So you know, this is this is part of the fabric of America. And you know, whether it's Charlie Kirk or over what two million casualties we've had of people who have bravely gone forth to the end our constitution to defend our freedoms. You know, we owe it to them to preserve you know, to preserve this this country's democratic republic, you know, as was asked of as you recall Benjamin Franklin after one of the conventions, a woman asked him says, okay, well, what kind of what kind of government do we have here? He's as well, lady, you know, a democratic republic if you can keep it.

18:24 And I mean, how profound that word? You know, that response was, if you can keep it? I mean, because you know we have the left and the Democratic Party particularly stringing and yelling about democracy is being threatened. Well, I think they got to part partly right. First of all, it's a democratic republic, not a democracy. So again words matter, right, So we need to put it in proper perspective. The democratic republic is being threatened. But who's threatening it? Not somebody who's a determined boogeyman? You know, like here you got mom, Donnie who Now Kathy Hokele, the governor of New York, is decided to indoors who says he's going to be Donald Trump's worst nightmare. The guy's the mayor of New York. How is he going to be Donald Trump's worst nightmare? I think Donald Trump at the federal level, and with all the monies they can or cannot be sent to New York because they need help. I mean, I think that he's more in a position to be a night bigger nightmare for Mom Donnie than the other way around. And just like with Letitia James, you know, saying, well, okay, I'm going to go and you know, elect me because I'm going to go after Donald Trump. I mean, really, this is the kind of political environment in which we want to live in. And then they wonder why, Okay, you know, they were all concerned good retribution. You know, Oh, Donald Trump's going to get back to these people. Well, in part again going back to what I said earlier about consequences, if people don't pay the consequences for the damage that they've done, then they just keep on doing it or it's just it's acceptable, and it becomes and

19:55 then what happens the next time the offense is even worse. And that's what's happened, and gradually over the decades, is that the type of you know, voter fraud, the type of law fair you know, the type of you know, political manipulation and meanness, it just keeps amping up and no consequence is paid figure. Okay, just get away with it, and until finally what happens, All hell breaks loose and now we've got serious problems, and you know, some people are going to be shocked. And it's almost like you remember the abortion doctor Godsnell, right, he was just shocked. He couldn't believe that he was going to go to jail for conducting abortions and selling baby parts and doing all that. He was just shocked because it had been going on for so long and everybody's kind of doing it.

20:47 And guess what. One of the things he said to I was a faalum, I believe, and they were in a meeting said hey, you know a couple of years, I mean, this is nothing because it'll be acceptable. And I remember when she relayed that story to me, and I thought, wow, is this is this the trajectory of our society that we would think so little of life that you know, aborting babies, selling baby parts, you know, organ harvesting and all that is all acceptable. I mean, we have we're pretty much there, sadly what we've done to those who cannot defend themselves, the unborn, and I mean it's a sad commentary on our society. But again, you know, getting back to Charlie Kirk, and what we believe in is that, you know, we believe life is paramount.

21:42 It is a gift of God and that needs to be held in the utmost of respect because it sets the condition for society. You know, Mother Teresa said that in so many words, that a nation that doesn't respect life is a nation that is just doomed. And we have gotten away with this for a long time. Again, consequences aren't there, you know, some of the consequences are hidden. And I believe this is why Roe v. Wade went back to the States because the women, although some of them spoke out quite courageously about saying, look at the doctor's, the whole medical industry lied to me, like you've not heard that anymore, and you haven't been hearing a lot of that lately. How the the big pharma and medical industrial complex, how they've misrepresented and lied to us. Well, the women who have gone through these abortions have realized that it's not just a you know, a clump of cells that you can cut out and have no impact, no meaning, you know, and I think you still I was watching some actress the other day and claiming that she's had something like forty three abortions and she was proud of it. I don't know how our body could handle forty three abortions, so I think she's a bit hyperbolic.

22:57 But regardless, it's like, wow, I mean, how cold hearted you have to be and how irresponsible do you have to be to keep getting pregnant and feel like, you know, the best form of birth control in your orbit is just to abort and kill that child. And society doesn't get away with that without some consequence. Because the thing is is that which started the conversation, is that you have to look at this from the spiritual component of it all. You know, we are tripart human beings, mind, body, and spirit. Okay, these three components make up who we are, and you can't extract one from the other. And you may think, Okay, I'm gonna just I don't want anything to do with God. I'm going to sere my conscience, which we're warned of in the Word of God not to do that. You know, there's a huge consequence for that.

23:51 But there are people who have done that, and it's these people that Charlie and I you know, pray for it and then we hope that whatever it takes, that you would discover the truth, because it's not just the medical industrial complex, it's not just the federal government, you know, go on down the line. You know these three letter agencies. You know what happened in the Ara of COVID, I mean, the level of deception that took place. But you see, the deal is is that when you buy in to this big fat lie that truth doesn't exist, that it's relative, it opens up the door to deception. And we have been deceived for decades here. And the reason I mean, the reason I'm here behind this microphone I'm talking today is a result of what I felt that God was calling me to do, and that was to do a show that was focused on the truth. And you've heard me talk with my good friend, doctor George Barnet, and doctor George Barnet was instrumental in my early journey, you know, to this end, and that was to pursue the truth, no matter where it led. I felt like it was so valuable that you know, that is our north star, that everything should pivot off the truth, you know, regardless of what they tell you in school. Just test it against the truth. What the doctors tell you, test it against the truth, what your heart is telling you. What does the truth say? And where do you find the truth? Okay?

25:19 And to me, in my journey of life, I've discovered and I've been grateful for God's mercy. I've discovered that the truth is anchored in God says, the fear of God is the beginning of all wisdom. Think about that. I know some people say, oh, fear of God. You know, like you, all of a sudden, some cosmic camera is going to come down here. Now, there's a lot to be understood about what you know what that means, you know, the fear of God. It's it's a righteous fear. It's understanding that you know all that component of who God is in his character. He's a loving God. He loves you, he cares for you. I mean, he designed he designed a world that would be good for us, but unfortunately for the fall of man. And you go back to the beginning in the book of Genesis. In the beginning, God he created all this stuff for us. And after his crowning achievement of creating man and women, he says, oh, this is you know each day he would say, this is God, this is good, this is good. But the last day, the sixth day before he rested, he goes, this is really good, this is very good God himself.

26:21 God says this, not your neighbor, you know, not some college counselor who doesn't think a whole lot of you, or maybe a divorce attorney. Maybe we'll have fun. But regardless, God says, hey, you're very good. And he created us. He created us in his image, in the image of God. The triun Godfather's Son, and Holy Spirit were created in that image. That's what makes us so precious. And when you hold to that and understand, as I said earlier, that you are connecting with somebody on this plane, in this in this time spectrum. I mean, we are here right now. You may think by some sort of cosmic accident, or you know, you think, okay, this is what God wanted.

27:03 I mean, think about it. I mean, that's huge to think that you are here right now by God's design, not because of your mother, your father, aunts and uncles and all that kind of stuff, but because God himself said, hey, I want you here right now, Charlie Kirk, I want you here right now. And Charlie Kirk was given a huge mantle. And you know, as Erica said, as Charlie, you know, went to be face to face with his Lord and his Savior. You know, you know, Charlie heard those words that every Christian wants to hear. Well done, good and final good and faithful servant, Enter into my rest.

27:44 I mean, that is so loaded with so much goodness. Again, this speaks of God's love for us and how much he cares for us. Enter in. You know, great job, you did great. And the thing is is that it's not just that God was saying that at that moment you left your body and came to be in his presence. All along the Bible says that Jesus is there next to the Father cheering us on, you know, going hey, hey Dad, look, you know, look at what Rebel's doing. Look at it and she awesome. You know, hey, she got it, you know. And you know, look at Joe's doing, and you know, and they're high five. I just see him high five and in heaven on this and this is all cool. You know, he's cheering us. He's cheering us on because he told he told the apostles the apostles were like in wonderment, going, well, you know all these miracles that you've done, this is incredible. And you just said, hey, look at You're going to do even greater things. And why could Jesus say, she said, because I'm sitting next I'll be at the right hand of the Father, and you will do even greater things. Pretty awesome, right, And so here Jesus goes to the cross for us to neutralize, to pay the price of sin that we all come into this world because this is a fallen world, and this is why we need God. And I'm I'm speaking this way to you because I'm concerned that even though right now there's there's a resurgence. Interestingly enough, last weekend, I'm told the number one book sales, the number one

29:14 book to sell over the weekend was the Bible. No doubt what happened in Utah resulted in this effect. The other thing is is that people were complaining at church, where's my parking space? I don't know, my parking space is not there. You know, some some new, some new me has come in and taken over my parking space. Guys out there, aren't we silly? I mean, we're silly humanoids. You know, we want you know, we can talk about Jesus, we talk about oh, we want everybody to go to heaven. But don't take my parking space and get out of there. That's my seat in the pew, you know, because that's where I sit every Sunday. What are you doing sitting in my seat. It's like, all of a sudden, we're a bunch of Sheldons. You know. You know what I'm talking about because Sheldon always had his favorite spot on the couch. You can't sit in the Sheldon spot. But you know, I'm sure God is entertained by some of our silliness. But the deal is is that, you know, right now we're at a time when we can really I want to say, and I say this with such honor and respect for Charlie, is that that he not have died in Vain. And I know that it's been an encouragement all over the world.

30:22 I mean, you see what's going on. I mean Australia, New Zealand, in Europe, you know, baseball games, Yeah, and there's some knuckleheads out there, but by and large, I mean it's like, okay, people are kind of getting it and You've got a lot of people going to church right now seeking the truth. And and my prayer for the church is that you don't compromise the truth. Okay, the kids have been lied to, we've all been lied to. Enough, give it to us straight. You don't need to, you know, butter it up. You know that the truth is right there, because that's why Jesus came to set us free. I mean, think about it. I mean we talk about freedom here in America, but we're talking about eternal free him that Jesus gave us. And when you are exposed to that, it's so liberating. It's kind of like in a way, why Charlie could do what he did, fearlessly go out into the belly of the beast and you know, open himself to attacks by people, people lying about him, and he just held his calm, He held his peace, as the Word of God would say, you know, don't surrender your peace, okay, sit in the peace of God, in knowing that your destiny is assured. That God has called you to do something, and what he called you to do, he's going to He's going to outfit you, he's going to prepare you know, everything that you need to get that done. And I know you may say, look at well, if God was really for Charlie Kirk, why was he assassinated?

31:45 I'll tell you that that's the number one question that was asked immediately. Why Well, you know, go back to the book that Charlie was very engaged with on a daily basis, and that is the word of God. And the word of God will tell you what. Because because evil's here, and you've heard me say this before, we we just overlook evil. We really don't pay attention to it. And Evil loved that because it goes well, you know, hey, they're not they're not paying attention. I can do whatever I want to do. But see, if you know the difference between good and evil, and your guard is up, then you can stop evil before it even gets to your door. All right, But if it's inconsequential to you and you're too busy being a consumer, as my good friend Jeff Kemp would say, I love his expression of that because I think it's our condition. It is our condition, our country. We have been trained to be consumers everything.

32:39 It's about consuming, you know, our relationships. We consume our relationships. It's not about what I can what I can do to serve you? As Charlie would say, he would wake up every morning and say, God, what can I do for you? What? What? What do you want me to do for you? It wasn't that Charlie was coming and say, God, hey I need this, I need more money because turning points, you're trying to do this, we're trying to expand, and then we got to you know, no, it's just God, what do you what do you need from me? And I think there's a lot that we can take away from that is that in our relationships, you know, with our wives and friends, you know, are we consuming them or are we looking, you know, to serve them? As Jesus said, I mean, Jesus shows up at the Last Supper with a towel and a basein of water, starts washing the apostles feet and they're freaking out, WHOA, what's going on here? Well, we can all look from that example, which is all pointing to the eternal truth that we're here to serve and not be served. And when we serve, that's when we're more most fulfilled. And I believe that that's when you know, we're joyful, we're most free because you know. I was when I was an adjunct professor in southern California. I would share with the kids that you know, when in living life, the things to consider is particularly when you know you were working somewhere, because I used to try brain my salespeople and other people that I work with on these principles. The number one, you should enjoy what you're doing. You know, when you consider that you're off to work eight ten hours a day,

34:11 at least, you know you should enjoy it. Right my dad, you say, look at you find something you enjoy doing. You don't, You'll never have to work for the rest of your life. And for the most part in my career, I've been very, very blessed to enjoy what I'm doing, So I say, look at, enjoy what you're doing. The second thing is that you have to have a fair chance to win, you know, so and buy that it's not that you're winning at somebody else's expense, but that you are accomplishing you're being productive. Okay, So, if you're a you know, five foot seven inch basketball player and you want to be a center competing in the NBA, probably not that good. Odds are you're not going to have a fair chance to win. And you know, and I used to tell people outside use the example that if you were a brain search and if you're killing nine out of ten people that you take the surgery, probably need to find another gig, you know, So you got to have a fair chance to win with the giftings and talents that God's blessed you with. And speaking of which, the third issue is that with the giftings and talents God's blessed you with, those have to be exercised and grown. You want to see somebody who's frustrated, I'll tell you. I can tell you in a couple of minutes and find out that if they're wired in a certain way and that wiring is not being you know, exercised and developed, boy, they'll be frustrated to no end.

35:36 And you know, when you look at the US labor force that I found this to be quite interesting that what it all comes down to is less than ten percent of the US labor force has any sense of fulfillment. So nine out of ten people are cranky to no end. I mean, it's no wonder when you go to a restaurant, you know, you go someplace that requires some sort of service, that it's not always the best experience, right. A lot of people just aren't happy because they're miscasts. And I get it for a season. Sometimes, you know, when tough times fall and you say, okay, hey, look at I got to go wash dishes because I got to put food on the table, I got to keep a roof over my head. If I got to toss a hamburger or two, I'm going to do whatever it takes. You know, in the old days, you could be a Walmart greeter.

36:19 Now you can't even be a Walmart greater. But regardless, you're going to do whatever it takes right in order to do. And I get that for a short term, but long term, you want to be doing something that is consistent with the wiring, with the talents and gifts that you have so you can grow and develop them. And I would say, look at if you enjoy what you're doing, you have a fair chance to win. You're winning more than you're losing. That the giftings and talents that you have are being exercised and grown. I used to say that that would give you the fourth component, which is fulfillment, which I mentioned to you. Less than ten percent of the US labor force. According to US labor studies, people have found themselves to be fulfilled. I mean it's pretty sad, isn't it that you know, with all the opportunities that are here, that you would have such a small percentage of people that aren't you know, aren't fulfilled, not happy. Well, And I will share this with you as I'm in this classroom in southern California and I'm giving this presentation to these young kids, uh, and one that I've given for many years. And all of a sudden I get to the point and I'm getting ready for the big denu mount of the expression.

37:23 You know, Okay, it's here. It is you know, it's about fulfillment. And about that time, the spirit of God downloads a new component and I told the kids. I stopped and I said, hey, I got to tell you this is this is fresh. If I can be so bold to say from the throne room of God, I can't thank Good credit for this. This isn't me. This is what God, I believe is impressing my spirit to share with you. And that is the highest calling you can have. Is freedom, not fulfillment, but freedom. Think about that and it you know, when it hit me, I started thinking of all the ways in which, you know, we enjoy freedom, all the ways in which our freedom is compromised, you know, by bad decisions. You know, governmental entities, people that want to consume you, not serve you, all these things that collide with the issue of freedom and freedom.

38:15 You know who gives us freedom, you know, Jesus himself goes to the cross so that we could truly be free. He paid the price for us. Yeah, that freedom, and I mean it just it overwhelmed me. And even when I think about it to this day, I think, how lucky are we? How lucky are you? And I would say that, you know, if you truly want to be free, I mean not free like way some of these professors talk about it, I mean genuine freedom and all that it represents, that where you can have true joy and happiness in your life. That's where it begins. It begins right there at the crossroads of the cross. And what your decision will be. My prayer is that you would choose rightly and that you would really that all that God has given us is there and that we can make a difference, because I think right now we're on the verge of another awakening of an incredible magnitude. Yes, evil will still rain, no doubt about it. It always happens.

39:15 I mean that happens in the seventies when we had a revival. I thought was quite interesting because we have the Jesus movement going on at the same time we had woodstock, sex, drugs, rock and roll crazy. Huh. So it's just the nature of the world. It's not like it's all going to be one hundred percent, but at least for you and your household, why not choose, choose rightly and lean in to the word of God. Okay, you bought the Bible, right lean into it. Yes, some of it can be difficult, but this is why I recommend that you find a church that teaches the Bible, that there's Bible studies. You associate with other people who are seeking the truth and hold to the truth of God, and they're not there in it for themselves with some sort of prosperity message. And you know, this is the thing.

40:06 I mean, it's like Jesus told the apostle, said, look it, you're going to go out there. You're not going to accept money. You went out you went out there without money. You're not going to accept money, don't expect to be paid and uh, and the Apostles were true to that issue. And when you know, people did take care of them and help them out, but they weren't sitting there, you know, being chauffeured around in some you know, beautiful chariot, you know, going from city to city. Uh. You know that should be a big warning sign for you right away, is that's not That's not God's economy. And I pray that you discover the truth, the truth that will you know truly set you free. But I'll tell you, uh, you know, we lost a good man in Charlie Kirk. But I believe, you know, as the Bible talks about that seed that goes to the ground, it must die. And the good news is when that seed dies, it multiplies. And I believe that this is going to is the future is the word for Turning Point already, I mean this past weekend, I mean they were about nine hundred chapters of Turning Point in universities across the country. Nine hundred they already had over the weekend over thirty four hundred requests for new chapters. Now thirty four thousand. I'm sorry, thirty four thousand. Okay, that would cover just about every university in the United States.

41:32 So you know, the people are the kids are hungry for it. And I think this is why Charlie Kirk was so received in some regards, because what happened it validated a lot of these kids that were in these classrooms being being indoctrinated, and they realized there's something some not fitting here, some not right. And so you have a truth bearer who comes to the campus and he spoke eloquently, He debated with a true concern of the people he was debating with out of respect. Not once did I ever see him get upset and pitch a fit and throw a microphone at him or anything. You know, he was consistently respectful because again, who was he seeing? Imajodo?

42:21 Another humanoid just like you and me, made in the image of God, and he respected them well. As we wrap things up, I want to play for you a video the Turning Point has put out which casts the vision and again kind of helps summarize the story of what happened last week. Go ahead, play it. Now. We're acting in about fifteen campuses, and we're growing very very quickly, and keep in mind this is not just a flash in the pan movement. We're going to become an institution to give them the power and the confidence to stand up and let their voice be heard. I started this organization when I was eighteen years old. I decided not to go to college. I didn't get in my dream school, which was the United States Military Academy at West Point. I have this idea to galvanize and motivate the future youth of this country around a core set of ideas, not just political parties or politicians. And the ideas are really America is the greatest country in the history of the world. Constitutions, the greatest political document ever written in free enterprise, the most sured way to lift people out of poverty and create prosperity for all.

43:24 Those are the three big ideas, and I think that's something. That can win. We as Christians are called to go into the public arena to correct error with truth. So I go to college campuses and there's a lot of error. We're all sinners, we are all living error. I'm far more interested in what God wants of me than what I want from God. I have to say this without getting emotional, but I'm very proud of my husband, and I know many of you are too. You have worked so hard, and I know a lot of you have seen obviously his video is on TikTok and all the stuff he does on campus, but no one gets to see him from my angle except for myself and our children fall and the sacrifices that he made this year. He's amazing.

44:29 I'm very blessing and I would not have been able to do any of it without Erica. And that's the real truth. I'll tell you what you are here as a grassroots response to the top down revolution happening in this country. I want our Turning Point USA students to receive a round of applause. These are the freedom fighters of America. And the media said the Turning Point could never run a ground game. They weren't experienced, They didn't know. Charlie right. This is the greatest generational realignment since Woodstock. This generation is the most conservative generation that we have seen and well over fifty years, and the numbers show it. What young people especially are screaming at is they say, give me a structure that I can live my life by, and especially with young men, more challenging of them more saying you know what, honestly, I'm not going to talk down to you. Stop being a boy and become a man.

45:27 You want to learn what that means. Come to church and I'll tell you what it means to become a man because we have the greatest story ever told. What can I do to save the country? You answer that question every single day because you are doing the work to save this beautiful republic. You are doing something that is bigger than you. If everything completely goes away, how do you want to be remembered? I want to be I want to be remembered for courage from my faith. That would be the most important thing. Most important thing is my faith in my life.

46:10 And it puts it all in perspective, doesn't it. Charlie Charley Kirk right there, we're are you know, our appreciation a turning point, and I know that God has great plans for turning point going forward. And the legacy of one Charlie Kurt. He uh changed a lot of lives and and this will have a generational impact. This will go on because of his faithfulness to his God, the faithfulness to his mission, and his faithfulness to those that he served and we will be eternally grateful for Charlie Kirk. Thank you for being with us. May God bless you, May He keep you, May He make his face shine upon you. May He be gracious unto you, and may you experience his peace. God bless Pretty b