Feb. 11, 2025

The Latest DOGE Revelations and Hamas Hostage Release Update

The Latest DOGE Revelations and Hamas Hostage Release Update

CEO of Open The Books, John Hart talks about his open letter to Elon Musk and the great strides that are being made on behalf of We The People to hold our government and our taxes accountable. Then, Alex Traiman, the CEO of The Jewish News Syndicate...

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Season 2

CEO of Open The Books, John Hart talks about his open letter to Elon Musk and the great strides that are being made on behalf of We The People to hold our government and our taxes accountable. Then, Alex Traiman, the CEO of The Jewish News Syndicate updates us on all things Middle East. From Bibi Netanyahu's visit with President Trump, Possibility of a Riviera of the Middle East, finding a home for Hamas, neutralizing Iran's nuclear ambitions and keeping an eye on Turkey.

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Well, good afternoon, Bill Martinez. Here we are live. Good

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to have you with us. Exciting show for you. After

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being off a couple of weeks, got caught up with

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a little bit of the flu bug that was flying

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around in my travels to Las Vegas and California. Who said,

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what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. The flu doesn't

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It chases you down in California. But all is well,

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and I pray that your well as your well as well.

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How's that? Huh? Okay? Well?

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Coming up today? As I said, quite an exciting show.

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John Hart, the chief executive officer of both in the Books,

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is back with us to give us an update on

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all things doze, all things open the books, new revelations,

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things that we the people have been begging for for

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a long time, and that is to take on the waste,

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the fraud, the corruption of our US government. And Donald

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Trump is being rewarded handsomely. The latest polling showing that

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his approval rate is probably as high as it's ever been,

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fifty three percent, probably the highest ever actually. And you

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saw the response at the super Bowl, you know, during

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during the Star Spangled banner, and that was you know,

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the people cheered him. This is the general response as

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opposed to what happened in his first four years with

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all the negative Russian collusion and resistance that was brought

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to us by the Democratic Party and what damage they

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did along with Hillary Clinton, and they seem to have

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gotten away with it with impunity.

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Right.

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How disappointing is that, but you know that's the way.

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It is a different error right now, a lot of

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positive things that are being done. So looking forward to

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talking to John Hart about that. And then also we'll

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go to Jerusalem in the second half of the show

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to talk with the chief executive officer of JNS, Alex

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Treman Is going to give us an update on the hostages.

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We saw the release of the hostages and Donald Trump

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had made the comment that it was in a sense

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and this is my interpretation, not his verbatim comment, but

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it means the same thing, and that is that the

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pictures that he saw reminded him of Holocaust victims. These

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three latest hostages to be released. I mean, this is

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spiking a a response from Israelis to get the hostages

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out of there. And as we know from our previous reporting,

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the you know, the internal International Red Cross, I should say,

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they have been in Israeli jeal at jails to check

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on the Palestinians to make sure they're welfare and everything

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is appropriate, you know from diet you know, go on

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down the list. This is not what's happening with Hamas.

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I mean Hamosi terrorists. They're not civil people. They don't

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care about the hostages, and that's clear. I mean, we

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don't even know of the remaining hostages. I think there's

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over seventy remaining hostages. We don't even know how many

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of those are going to be brought back in body bags.

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And I'm telling you that's a heartbreak. I mean, you

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saw the response already with just these last three hostages,

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and it is upsetting, it's heartbreaking, and there is this

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increased sense of urgency. And I will say this that

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the the people of Israel, whether in America or in

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uh in Israel itself proper, are very supportive of what

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Donald Trump is doing. So right now, let's bring on

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John Hart, the chief executive officer of Open the Books. John, Good, afternoon.

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Good to have you with us, sir.

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It's great to be back on.

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How are you built?

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Hey, I'm doing terrific. Thank you so much, you know

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for coming on. You know, from day one, I have

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believed that Elon Musk needed to connect with Open the Books.

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I mean, you've got records, You've got information that I

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don't think that a judge could block because it's been

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long established. So I don't know, I'm a little confused

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as to why Elon Musk and his team have not

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connected with you.

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Well, I think they are using the data that we

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have built.

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They're they're putting out our you know, reports and different

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you know, tweentty things that that we've been sited in.

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So I think there's they are using the data and

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the thing the thing to keep in mind too, is

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is back back when we create a USA Spending that

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was almost twenty years ago. So we put all federal

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spending online, let people search it through USA Spending. So

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what I'm merging Doge and Elon Musk to do is

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to really create an upgraded version of that, and I

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would call it America's checkbook. Yes, And what Elon and Doze,

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what they've done, this is really exciting. They've they have

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now have a look at what's called the Treasury payment

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So the Treasury payment system is kind of like the

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Holy of Holies for the administrative state. It's where the

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inner sanctum and it's only the high priests that that

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get to access the Holy of Holies. So part of

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the reason this panic on the left is that you

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have people who actually are looking at waste and fraud

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who have access to the money going out the door.

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So there's there's the Wooly Lohman principle, let's follow the money.

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So what Elon and Doze have done is they've gone

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in and they've actually gained access to this to the system.

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And the update now is a federal judge and Obama

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or a judge actually blocked them from doing that.

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And the claim is, well, they don't, they don't.

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Have the the authority, they don't have the proper clearances

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to look at this que sensitive data. And and I

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think that's going to get worked out there. They're not

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going to be permanently barred from that.

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But what I what.

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I'm emerging elon and doge to do is to use

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access to that to give the American people the same

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access they're now enjoying exactly. And the concept is is

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you know, as you know and your listeners know, is

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that the money in the in the treasury payment system,

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it doesn't belong to the federal government. It doesn't belong

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to the President, it doesn't belong to Congress or any agency.

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It belongs to we the people, the people. So that

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is our money in the in the treasury payment system.

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And so the concept is just just as you know,

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we ought to have the right to access that, just

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as we have the right to access our own personal

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checking account. So whether you're America, Chase through US wherever

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you know, you you have the ability to go in

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and and and the difference is if you're if it's

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your personal account, you can write checks, but you know,

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I don't have I don't have the power. I don't

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want the power to write checks out of your account,

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and I don't want to give you the right to

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do that to my account.

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That's called redistribution.

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Now, when we have the government, we all pay taxes

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into that, so we don't get to control individually. That's

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why we have a representative system of government. But we

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at least have the right to see, We have the

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right to access and understand what is going out under

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our authority.

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And there is no.

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Government other than a government that happens by consent. It's

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we have a system of the consent of the government.

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So these are basic little principles of democratic governance and

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constitutional government.

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And so all of the talk about.

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Oh, it's a constitutional crisis for Elon Musk to have

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access quat access to the system there, it really begs

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the questions, well, who was in charge before you know,

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we're talking about the executive branch having access to the

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to the payment system the executive branch controls. So there's

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no constitutional problem there. The constitution problem and questions are

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it is it is true that only Congress has the

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authority to appropriate money, but the president has authority too,

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he has the authority of the veto pen and there's

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but there's a big gray area on executive orders. And

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the gray area is the result of this one hundred

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year experiment that the left has mounted called the administrative state,

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where for a very deliberate effort, we've outsourced authority and

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power to unelected bureaucrats.

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And that's that's really going to be.

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That's what the argument and fight that they're forcing, and

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that's needed to happen for decades. So it's a really exciting,

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important moment and I hope they capitalize on it and

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hope they lock in some of these new transparency tools

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that the American people desperately need.

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Well exactly, it's what they're asking for, John, John, I

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was going to ask you, you know what, what arrogance,

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what hubris that this administrative state has been able to exercise?

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And that was my question was going to be when

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did this start to happen? And you just said, was

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you know, ever since the birth of the administrative state?

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Yeah, and yeah, it actually happened, happened a hundred years ago.

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This was really the dream of of kind of the

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Woodrow Wilson first progressives and then you add you had

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FDR that really supercharged it, and then the Great Society,

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and that's that's the path we've been on. And so

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I call that that's the quiet constitutional crisis we've been

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living under. Is this is this decline of individual autonomy,

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this decline of state power, and this rapid growth of

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the unelected administrative experts, and the argument that they made

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one hundred years ago as well, you know, we've advanced

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so much in the one hundred and fifty years of

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our country.

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The society is too complicated.

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We need to really create this class of experts who

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will help us save us from ourselves and manage and

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manage this new complex life we have in nineteen ten

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and nineteen twenty, and that's that was really the precursor

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to to this massive expansion of federal government power that

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they and turned into creating the part of education in

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nineteen eighty, Great Society before that, and a New Deal.

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And I'm not advocating we get rid of every safety

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net program. I think we need to perform them, but

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we've gone so far that direction that the reason people

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are panicking is finally someone actually is moving it back

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in a dramatic way.

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The other direction.

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We've you know, we as we've talked about before, we've

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had some successes with limiting, getting rid of your marks

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for a decade, you know, pausing cutting spending for the

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first time since the Korean War back in twenty twelve,

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twenty thirteen, during the Coburn Tea Party era. Yes, but

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Elon is going to take this to a whole new level,

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which is very very exciting along over due.

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Well, we're really lifting the hood in this mechanical beast that,

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as you say, you go from you know, the early

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nineteen hundreds and fast forward to twenty twenty five, and

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the elites that you know, supposedly knew better than the

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cumulative consciousness of three hundred million people. What they've done.

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They've run us into the ditch. And on top of that,

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the monies that they have signed have misrepresented the hearts

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of the American people, John, I mean, the American people

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wanted to go why do.

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These nations hate us so much?

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And little did they know because they're thinking, hey, you know,

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I look at my tax bill. I see all this

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money going out to support these nations and they hate us. Well,

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what they don't realize is that we have these US

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AID programs that are promoting color revolutions and disrupting their

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traditional family life and religious life in their countries. You know,

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thank you very much the USA, Right.

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Yeah, I mean what we've been funding.

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We've been funding everything for you know, transgender shows, operas

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in Ireland.

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was it was for a very specific purpose.

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we didn't want to start World War three. So what

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stand and said no, we're going to provide support for

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for West for West Berlin, and.

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any role overseas or we don't have any humanitarian role,

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but we don't need to be funding drag shows an equable,

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allow themselves to be to have oversight and be regular.

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Wall Street Journal that that that really is aligned with

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what Coburn experience when he was trying to reform programs

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is you shift power away from individuals and even away

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from Congress. Congress has given its power away. And and

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when someone comes in and conducts over side.

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Tear up in arms about everything that Trump does. Oh

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my goodness, you know that that job belongs to Congress.

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Well what about all the other jobs that you've abdicated?

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should be is what is in our national security interest?

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it's in our enlightened self interest to help Israel, for example. Yes,

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it's not in our enlightened self interest to fund a

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transgender opera in Ireland.

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So that's really what is.

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They're trying to have a common sense conversation and keep

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the things that are good and put those under the

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State Department, but do not allow this agency to hoard

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power and fun things that are that are contrary to

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oh my goodness, mel Brooks was a bit pressioned here,

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you know, with his producers. Right, it's springtime Hitler in Germany.

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I mean, how ridiculous. And this is like, you know,

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you look at all these expenditures. But you know, like

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one senator said, after a while, you're talking real money here,

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and we're talking lots of real money, especially when we're

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thirty six looking at thirty seven trillion dollars in debt, right, yeah,

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you got it.

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was there's a report that that we spent fifty nine

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million dollars, you know, paying to put put illegal immigrants

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in hotels in New York City exactly.

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Carolina or Los Angeles, but we and support the illegals

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in New York City.

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hotels and communities, and that's what people are upset about it,

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and rightly so.

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Their DOGE is really just getting started, and I think

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they're they're going to continue to find these these examples

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and then and then I'm hopeful that really to lock

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these again, to lock these things into place, you have

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to have you really need to take advantage of the

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moment to have a better transparency tool that improves on

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what we've already built. But then also work with with

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the work with the DOGE caucuses, you know, the members

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of Congress like Jony earnst and and Gary Palmer and

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others on the House side, to to come up with

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kind of an agency reorganization so that these things can

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be written into law and you have all of these

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all of these progressive members of Congress anicking. It's like, well,

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if you don't like what they're doing, go pass a

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new law. Exactly, Pass a law that says, I want

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to spend taxpayer money putting up illegals in New York.

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I want a law that says we have to on

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the DEI project in Ecuador or drag show. And if

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that's what you believe, put it in the law and

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may happen. You know, they'll complain about oversight.

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Well, the Republicans are in a sense kind of missing

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an opportunity here because a wave is being generated to

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deal with this problem. And as you say, the door

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is open for Republicans to lead the way to write

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law to answer this problem. Because the Democrats, meanwhile, they're

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lost in the wilderness. They have no idea where north

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and south is no matter all that you know, critical

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Democrat analysts have been suggesting for them. They just want

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to stay angry instead of Hey, look at the American

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people have spoken. They gave Donald Trump the plurality of

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the vote. They re elected him into office. His approval

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rate is sky high at fifty three percent. I believe

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it's the highest it has ever been.

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John, it is, Yeah, and but I think you know,

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really the reason he the reason he was elected is

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that people believed and they felt in their daily lives

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they were better off under President Trump and they were

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nder Biden.

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Dot.

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between government spending and inflation. And the administration knows this,

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and so they've started They've started with, you know, things

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that they believe they are going to get public support for.

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the higher dollar items, things like cutting one hundred billion

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dollars a fraud out of Medicare and Medicaid. There is

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an enormous amount of health care fraudt and when you

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start to shift that money out of fraud where it's

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doing nothing other than enriching fraudsters and criminals, right, and

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letting people keep more of that in their own pockets

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so we can save and invest it, spend at your

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local small business. That's when you have economic growth and

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inflation goes down. And they barely even looked at energy,

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like energy, there's a fantastic new energy Secretary Chris right, Yes, really,

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somebody should you should follow you, Chris, and I've done

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some work with him before on this idea that that

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the answer to all of our economic and environmental challenges

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is economic freedom.

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We need more energy, not less.

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you care about conservation, we need to be drilling as

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much as we can, because we do energy so much cleaner,

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more efficiently in the United States than they do in

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China and Russia and other countries that are that are

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hostile to our interests, right, and so there's dose is

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a going to move to those different areas and there

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it's very, very exciting to see them use these new

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tools to do a forensic.

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Auditing in a way that in a way that we've

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been doing.

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So they're really they're taking what we're doing, doing it well,

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and we want to we want everyone to.

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Have access to all the great information.

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Well, plus you've got all of uh Elon Musk database

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and people that subscribe to them and connect with him.

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I mean that's awesome. And what other media content commands

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the number of ears and eyes that Elon Musk does.

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And so with him being transparent and saying Hey, this

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is what we found out. I mean, like today that

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we're building a monument with holy water for doctor Fauci

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or something, right, right, I mean yeah.

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And so today also there was the Treasury secretaries of

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the past, some predominately you know, Democratic administrations, are criticizing

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his access to this data and saying, you know, you're

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not qualified access to data. Well, there's no one on

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really on earth who's more qualified right to look at

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the data and the Treasure payment system than Elon Musk

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and the team of brilliant young you know, data scientists.

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And he's Democrats, Nuts, isn't it. I mean, you've got

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these these.

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Eighteen nineteen year old wonderkins that just say, hey, this

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looks weird. What is this line item for? You know,

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just asking the question?

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Right, yeah, exactly, And and I think and we've again

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we've shown the power of what we call crowdsourcing oversight,

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where we've we made all the all the data for us.

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It's been available.

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We want to get it again.

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A more rapid sort of immediate look at it, which

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is what the Treasury payment system allows. So I'm convincer's

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a way to give the public again read only access

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to this data so that we can there's there's going

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to be for every four or five people Elon is hired,

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there's going to be hundreds of people all over the

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country exact that would find this information useful. And and

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so much of the traffic that's talked about, all these

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examples of waste, they the fact that we can even

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find them is something that we intentionally created the capacity

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for people to do. So it's not it's opened the books,

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but it's also a lot of other just good faith

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citizens who are doing their own research and scratching their

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heads and wondering why why are we funding this?

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And then they post it online.

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And there's a there's a discussion about it, there's a debate, right,

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And that's that's how our that's how our founders were

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in a country to work.

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Yeah, you talk about a constitutionalized government and the consent

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of the government.

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This is what it's all about.

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Right, yep, Yeah, that's exactly right.

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Well, John, as we wrap things up here your open

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letter the Elon Musk to keep the conversation and the

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lines of communication open, I know. Joni Erst said that

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on day one, she presented Elon Musk with eight pages

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and I had to chuck a little bit because I'm thinking,

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knowing John Hart, he's probably got about eight million pages

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that he gift Elon Musk.

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That's just me. I know you wouldn't say that.

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I'm expecting you to say that, But just knowing you

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and knowing the team and Adam Manjski and in his

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spirit and open the books and Senator Coburn, You've got

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plethora of information here that will that will reach the

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objective that the American people have put at the doorstep

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of one Donald Trump.

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Right, you got it, you got it.

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We're going to keep up the pressure. Bill, appreciate everything

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you're doing as well.

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Well, you know, God bless you. I just am so

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grateful for you and the team. Keep up the great

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work on our behalf, because look at if we're going

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to be a constitutional government form of government, a republic,

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then we need to find where we lost our way.

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Go back, like any good CEO would do when any

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organization has lost this way, they go back and say

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where did we make the wrong turn? And I think

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that that has yet to be done. I'm hopeful that

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it can be done because it's almost like you have

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to go forward, you have to go back in order

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to go forward.

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Right, No, that's exactly right, and you can trace this again.

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You know, one hundred years ago.

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This was a very intentional move away from the Founder's

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limitations on government power.

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And that's that's why we're in the situation where.

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Well, you got it, but I believe the capacity of

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the people to fix it.

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Well, John Hart, thank you.

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John Hart is the chief executive officer of Open the Books.

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Open the Books dot com as where you can go

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to be fully informed and stay up to date on

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all things DOGE, all things government efficiency, waste and fraud. John,

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thank you for being with us. Take care. Thanks Bill,

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our gratitude to John Hart. What a great guy and

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a great team on behalf of the American people. You

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know that if asked Donald Trump fix it, we know

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that there's problems here. And of course the early reports

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that we got from DOZE was extremely revealing. So how

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do you go back? You know, as John said, we

474
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have got to take on the inefficiencies of this administrative

475
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state and take back our government. This is what the

476
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American people are demanding. We go now to Jerusalem, Israel,

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to connect with the chief executive Officer of JNS Alex

478
00:23:53.240 --> 00:23:57.440
Treman joins us. Now, Alex, good afternoon, Good to have

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00:23:57.519 --> 00:23:58.079
you with us.

480
00:23:58.519 --> 00:23:59.400
Good afternoon, Bill.

481
00:23:59.480 --> 00:24:02.119
Great to see you, Hey, thank you so much for

482
00:24:02.160 --> 00:24:05.000
being with us. I'm so grateful that you were here

483
00:24:05.079 --> 00:24:08.079
to talk about. You know, one of the first the

484
00:24:08.119 --> 00:24:12.000
topics that our audience has, Alex, is the hostages. The

485
00:24:12.079 --> 00:24:17.960
recent hostage release. Donald Trump shockingly said very anecdotally that

486
00:24:18.119 --> 00:24:21.880
it reminded him seeing these three hostages come out, It

487
00:24:21.960 --> 00:24:27.279
reminded him of Holocaust survivors. That is a powerful statement, Alex.

488
00:24:27.839 --> 00:24:30.240
Oh, I mean, I think that everybody can see, you know,

489
00:24:30.400 --> 00:24:33.599
just what horrific monsters come us are. There was pictures

490
00:24:33.640 --> 00:24:37.279
of these hostages or ease, and you see the before

491
00:24:37.319 --> 00:24:40.880
and after photos. You know, lost something like forty to

492
00:24:40.880 --> 00:24:43.680
fifty pounds. There was a picture that came out of

493
00:24:43.720 --> 00:24:46.240
the three of them in a tiny cell which was

494
00:24:46.319 --> 00:24:49.519
clearly in one of the underground tunnels where they were

495
00:24:49.599 --> 00:24:53.720
kept barely with any food, certainly without any natural light.

496
00:24:54.680 --> 00:24:58.599
They're suffering from severe malnutrition. And it also underscores how

497
00:24:58.759 --> 00:25:01.039
urgent it is to get all the sausages out as

498
00:25:01.039 --> 00:25:03.720
soon as possible, because they literally can befe for death

499
00:25:03.720 --> 00:25:05.279
for them if they remain in captivity.

500
00:25:05.480 --> 00:25:08.680
And by contrast, the Palestinians that have been released from

501
00:25:08.759 --> 00:25:13.480
Israel have been health checked by the Red Cross. They

502
00:25:13.559 --> 00:25:16.440
come out, they look fairly good. I mean some have

503
00:25:16.519 --> 00:25:19.000
said they've actually gained weight, not lost weight.

504
00:25:19.359 --> 00:25:22.880
The conditions in Israeli prison for a terrorists are shocking

505
00:25:22.920 --> 00:25:26.359
when you understand how good they have it. They're basically

506
00:25:26.839 --> 00:25:30.119
living in dormitories and bunks with televisions in their rooms.

507
00:25:30.119 --> 00:25:32.400
Many of them have cell phones. They're eating every day.

508
00:25:32.960 --> 00:25:37.000
Many Palestinian prisoners get education when they're in Israeli jails,

509
00:25:37.000 --> 00:25:42.640
some completing university degrees, even doctorates. Ya Ya Sinwar himself

510
00:25:42.759 --> 00:25:46.079
was sitting in Israeli prison and he was operated on

511
00:25:46.200 --> 00:25:50.440
for a brain tumor when he was a prisoner in

512
00:25:50.519 --> 00:25:53.640
Israeli jails, and he was released in another prisoner exchange,

513
00:25:53.839 --> 00:25:57.119
part of the exchange of one thousand terrorists in exchange

514
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for one Israeli soldier. And the thanks that Israel gets

515
00:26:01.480 --> 00:26:04.200
for saving his life and releasing him was the October

516
00:26:04.240 --> 00:26:04.880
seventh attack.

517
00:26:05.200 --> 00:26:09.640
Well exactly, and this is what Israel understandably and Israelites,

518
00:26:09.680 --> 00:26:13.359
I should say, are concerned about, is that they're releasing

519
00:26:13.640 --> 00:26:18.839
future terrorists clearly, because as has been said, if you

520
00:26:18.839 --> 00:26:20.960
want to know what somebody is going to do, look

521
00:26:20.960 --> 00:26:21.680
what they've done.

522
00:26:21.839 --> 00:26:24.799
Oh absolutely, I mean we know statistically that they go

523
00:26:24.960 --> 00:26:27.599
back to committing acts of terror. It is an honor

524
00:26:27.759 --> 00:26:31.079
for these Palestinian terrorists to be sitting in Israeli jail.

525
00:26:31.119 --> 00:26:33.119
It is literally a badge of honor. They do not

526
00:26:33.200 --> 00:26:37.079
get rehabilitated in Israeli jails. They get further insighted to violence.

527
00:26:37.680 --> 00:26:42.160
And it's the type of immoral choice that Israel has

528
00:26:42.240 --> 00:26:46.400
to make, which is basically, you know, redeeming captives now,

529
00:26:46.519 --> 00:26:49.880
saving a life now, when it's almost certain that someone

530
00:26:49.920 --> 00:26:51.720
else is going to die later as a.

531
00:26:51.680 --> 00:26:54.440
Result of that. But what do you do? This is

532
00:26:54.480 --> 00:26:57.559
the type of moral calculations that Israel has to make,

533
00:26:57.559 --> 00:27:00.519
and how much we value the lives of those we

534
00:27:00.599 --> 00:27:02.720
can save now and only hope that you know, we

535
00:27:02.759 --> 00:27:07.000
can track these individuals and hopefully prevent the violence that

536
00:27:07.039 --> 00:27:07.960
they will commil later.

537
00:27:08.359 --> 00:27:11.960
Yeah, you can only hope that maybe the Masaud or

538
00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:14.039
somebody would give them a pager on their way out

539
00:27:14.039 --> 00:27:18.000
the door, just saying you know, but that's just me,

540
00:27:18.839 --> 00:27:21.000
which I thought was a brilliant move by the Idef

541
00:27:21.039 --> 00:27:23.240
by the way, and many others felt the same way.

542
00:27:23.640 --> 00:27:28.119
But because these are dangerous individuals, they've proven to be.

543
00:27:28.440 --> 00:27:31.440
I mean so much so, Alex that even the neighbor

544
00:27:31.640 --> 00:27:37.359
Arab nations Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia doesn't want any part

545
00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:41.279
of the two million Palestinians coming out of Amas for

546
00:27:41.359 --> 00:27:42.440
good reason, right.

547
00:27:42.640 --> 00:27:44.839
Well, they don't want them. They don't care about them.

548
00:27:45.279 --> 00:27:49.400
They only use them as pawns against Israel to delegitimize Israel.

549
00:27:49.440 --> 00:27:53.039
They're worried that these individuals, if they come into their country,

550
00:27:53.079 --> 00:27:57.119
will destabilize their country. They're not worried if they destabilize Israel.

551
00:27:57.160 --> 00:28:00.960
In fact, they're happy if they destabilize Israel. But you know,

552
00:28:01.000 --> 00:28:04.279
there's not been one country since October seventh that is

553
00:28:04.799 --> 00:28:06.920
raised their hand and said, you know, we will take

554
00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:09.960
displaced Palestini. If you remember the last of Ukraine Wars

555
00:28:10.039 --> 00:28:15.359
beginning six million Ukrainians fled, and the question was who's

556
00:28:15.400 --> 00:28:18.119
going to take Ukrainian refugees? Even Israel took something like

557
00:28:18.160 --> 00:28:21.759
thirty thirty five thousand Ukrainian refugees, But not a single

558
00:28:21.799 --> 00:28:24.359
country in the world is ready to take a Gazen.

559
00:28:24.599 --> 00:28:27.200
And I think that that should tell you what they

560
00:28:27.240 --> 00:28:31.039
think about Gozins right now, even when you see the

561
00:28:31.079 --> 00:28:33.960
images coming out of Gaza and you recognize that Israel

562
00:28:34.000 --> 00:28:37.480
has destroyed something like sixty to seventy percent of all

563
00:28:37.559 --> 00:28:41.279
of the buildings in Gaza, you know, leveling complete cities

564
00:28:41.319 --> 00:28:45.000
to the ground, and knowing that Palestinians are living in tents.

565
00:28:45.319 --> 00:28:47.960
It's the winter now, it's the rain season in Israel,

566
00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:51.160
and they're just sitting in muddy tents and they're still

567
00:28:51.200 --> 00:28:53.599
saying we will not take a single Gazin into art

568
00:28:53.640 --> 00:28:54.599
there exactly.

569
00:28:54.880 --> 00:28:55.119
Well.

570
00:28:55.160 --> 00:28:57.839
And the thing is is that with Donald Trump in

571
00:28:57.880 --> 00:29:00.359
the meeting with Bibnetna, who comes up with the idea

572
00:29:00.400 --> 00:29:05.440
that hey, maybe we can turn Gaza into the Mediterranean

573
00:29:05.640 --> 00:29:09.640
of the Middle East, the new Middle East Mediterranean Revere

574
00:29:09.839 --> 00:29:11.400
Riviera Reva.

575
00:29:11.839 --> 00:29:15.279
Yeah, I mean, Gaza could look like tel Aviv. You

576
00:29:15.319 --> 00:29:18.839
know it's it's just thirty forty miles south of tel Aviv.

577
00:29:19.480 --> 00:29:21.759
We know tel Aviv can look like it's beautiful and

578
00:29:21.799 --> 00:29:24.440
anybody would want to live there. And the only reason

579
00:29:24.519 --> 00:29:27.079
why Gaza doesn't look like tel Aviv is because the

580
00:29:27.119 --> 00:29:30.359
Goazas lived there, because they had control over the territory

581
00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:32.839
and they don't, They don't recognize the value of the

582
00:29:32.920 --> 00:29:35.400
real estate. They don't care, and they and they turned

583
00:29:35.400 --> 00:29:38.039
there there, what should have been a heaven into a

584
00:29:38.119 --> 00:29:41.880
terra haven. And you know, I think that Trump understands

585
00:29:41.920 --> 00:29:45.440
that if Gaza gets rebuilt the way you know, and

586
00:29:45.480 --> 00:29:47.519
the Gazas are still there, it's just going to be

587
00:29:47.559 --> 00:29:49.519
the same thing that it was, and is well will

588
00:29:49.559 --> 00:29:51.839
just come in another time and destroy it again. And

589
00:29:52.279 --> 00:29:55.519
I think that what he's seeking to do, which is amazing,

590
00:29:55.559 --> 00:29:57.279
and I don't think it was a surprise, and that

591
00:29:57.359 --> 00:29:58.839
the noalit he said it. But what I think that

592
00:29:58.920 --> 00:30:02.960
he's going to do is ultimately and Israeli Palestinian conflict

593
00:30:02.960 --> 00:30:05.640
for all time and say to the Palestinians, you have

594
00:30:05.759 --> 00:30:08.599
lost the conflict. You tried to win it, you've lost,

595
00:30:09.039 --> 00:30:10.880
and now it's time for you to leave. And this

596
00:30:10.960 --> 00:30:12.440
is going to be Israel. It's not going to be

597
00:30:12.440 --> 00:30:16.000
a Palestinian state anywhere between the Jordan River and the

598
00:30:16.039 --> 00:30:17.000
Mediterranean Sea.

599
00:30:17.440 --> 00:30:19.240
Well, let's go back in history.

600
00:30:19.319 --> 00:30:24.759
Alex God designated the Gaza Israel, that is holy land

601
00:30:25.079 --> 00:30:27.400
in and of itself. And there's got to be a

602
00:30:27.480 --> 00:30:32.039
reason that all this destruction has happened, I can help

603
00:30:32.039 --> 00:30:35.240
but believe that maybe God is reclaiming that land for Israel.

604
00:30:35.319 --> 00:30:37.920
What do you think, I mean, it's prophetic what we're

605
00:30:37.960 --> 00:30:41.119
seeing now. There's literally prophecies that you.

606
00:30:41.079 --> 00:30:43.759
Know, Jewish people who read from the writings about what

607
00:30:43.759 --> 00:30:46.559
will happen, and you know about a great war taking

608
00:30:46.599 --> 00:30:50.200
place in Israel and taking seven months to clear the

609
00:30:50.240 --> 00:30:53.079
dead bodies, and nobody knew what they were talking about.

610
00:30:53.319 --> 00:30:55.680
But when you realize that Gaza actually is part of

611
00:30:55.720 --> 00:31:00.359
the biblical Israel, I mean the biblical patriarch Isaac, he

612
00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:03.240
is known to have never left the land of Israel.

613
00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:05.920
That was one of his many attributes. And yet God

614
00:31:05.960 --> 00:31:08.200
told him to go down to Garar, and Garar is

615
00:31:08.200 --> 00:31:11.440
the area that we know today as Gaza. So you

616
00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:14.759
know Isaac was in Gaza, but he never left Israel.

617
00:31:14.799 --> 00:31:15.720
So what does that tell you.

618
00:31:15.680 --> 00:31:20.079
About the status of Gosim exactly? And the devastation of Gaza,

619
00:31:20.119 --> 00:31:23.839
I mean it's like Damascus. I mean, it's been so leveled,

620
00:31:23.880 --> 00:31:26.079
as you said, sixty seventy percent of the land.

621
00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:28.400
And maybe you.

622
00:31:28.359 --> 00:31:31.440
Know, for the Air of Nations, the fact that Donald

623
00:31:31.480 --> 00:31:33.400
Trump puts out this idea of saying, hey, look, at

624
00:31:33.799 --> 00:31:39.160
We'll bring in our labor force, are intelligence, and our

625
00:31:39.200 --> 00:31:42.319
assistance to help clean up that land, because this is

626
00:31:42.359 --> 00:31:43.480
not going to be.

627
00:31:44.880 --> 00:31:45.759
A minor issue.

628
00:31:45.799 --> 00:31:49.079
I mean, we're talking billions of dollars to clean up

629
00:31:49.440 --> 00:31:50.440
the gaza.

630
00:31:50.079 --> 00:31:54.559
Right absolutely. I mean I think billions is like understating

631
00:31:54.759 --> 00:31:58.519
the level of the devastation there. You're starting to see

632
00:31:59.079 --> 00:32:02.640
just how bad the damage has been. Some cities where

633
00:32:02.920 --> 00:32:05.640
literally every building is knocked down, and the buildings that

634
00:32:05.680 --> 00:32:08.119
aren't knockdown need to be knocked down because they're also

635
00:32:08.839 --> 00:32:13.319
pocketed with either board marks or unstable. The whole thing

636
00:32:13.440 --> 00:32:16.319
basically has to be completely totally destroyed. It's going to

637
00:32:16.359 --> 00:32:19.119
take many, many billions of dollars. It's going to take

638
00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:21.960
many years to rebuild. And I think that's a I

639
00:32:21.960 --> 00:32:25.640
think Trump rather looks at this like a possible realization.

640
00:32:26.920 --> 00:32:30.480
This is a distressed asset right here. We can sweep

641
00:32:30.559 --> 00:32:32.839
in and we can buy property here on the cheap,

642
00:32:32.880 --> 00:32:35.799
and we can develop something beautiful that can be worked.

643
00:32:35.799 --> 00:32:37.920
I mean, tel Aviv property is some of the most

644
00:32:38.000 --> 00:32:40.400
expensive property in the entire world. So let's just build

645
00:32:40.400 --> 00:32:44.400
another Tel Aviv over here and we'll rep rewards. It's

646
00:32:44.640 --> 00:32:45.640
just a real estate deal.

647
00:32:45.839 --> 00:32:48.279
Well, the challenge, I mean, first of all, you've got

648
00:32:48.359 --> 00:32:54.680
the land to recover, to remunerate, You've got unexploded munitions,

649
00:32:55.200 --> 00:32:59.400
got only nosewhere that have to be discovered and rooted out,

650
00:33:00.440 --> 00:33:04.279
and two million mean gosins that.

651
00:33:05.039 --> 00:33:08.640
Are terrorists of heart. How do you? How do you?

652
00:33:08.759 --> 00:33:09.720
How do you manage that?

653
00:33:10.240 --> 00:33:12.559
I think the gosspe issue is probably bigger than the

654
00:33:12.680 --> 00:33:13.279
land issue.

655
00:33:13.599 --> 00:33:16.920
Well, if you recognize how much leverage the United States

656
00:33:17.000 --> 00:33:20.759
has over countries like Jordan and Egypt, it's a tremendous

657
00:33:20.839 --> 00:33:23.680
amount of leverage. I mean, both of those countries are

658
00:33:23.759 --> 00:33:30.480
completely reliant on American aid, UH, certainly military support. And

659
00:33:30.759 --> 00:33:35.279
you see how the President has been using negotiation tactics

660
00:33:35.319 --> 00:33:41.079
with Canada, with Mexico regarding tariffs, and even with Greenland

661
00:33:41.160 --> 00:33:44.720
and Panama. And I think that there's a lot of leverage.

662
00:33:44.759 --> 00:33:47.000
You know, Egypt saying right now that they won't take

663
00:33:47.039 --> 00:33:49.400
any gosins. I mean the natural place for them to

664
00:33:49.519 --> 00:33:54.279
go is across the border UH into Egypt. And what's

665
00:33:54.359 --> 00:33:58.440
interesting about the war is that also the Houtish basically

666
00:33:58.599 --> 00:34:02.440
interrupted all of the commercial shipping through the Suez Canal,

667
00:34:02.799 --> 00:34:06.359
which is one of Egypt's largest drivers of revenue UH

668
00:34:06.559 --> 00:34:09.239
and Egypt's a very poor country as it is, and

669
00:34:09.679 --> 00:34:13.480
they've been hurt almost as badly as Israel financially by

670
00:34:13.559 --> 00:34:16.159
this war because of the Houtis action. In fact, you

671
00:34:16.320 --> 00:34:19.880
wonder why the Egyptians did not attack the Houtis because

672
00:34:19.960 --> 00:34:22.280
the Egyptians have an air force and the Houties were

673
00:34:22.760 --> 00:34:27.960
harming Egyptian national interest. And Egypt even took a one

674
00:34:28.000 --> 00:34:30.559
point five billion dollar loan in the last several weeks,

675
00:34:30.599 --> 00:34:33.760
so they're they're really hurting for cash. And I think

676
00:34:33.840 --> 00:34:36.880
that Trump can use the leverage and say a will

677
00:34:36.920 --> 00:34:40.880
give you a major package to figure out a solution

678
00:34:41.280 --> 00:34:45.679
to put gosins in the Sinai Peninsula, which is a

679
00:34:45.880 --> 00:34:49.440
very large and open territory where most of the Egyptian

680
00:34:49.519 --> 00:34:53.199
populace doesn't live, and it's available, and they can get

681
00:34:53.320 --> 00:34:55.559
money for taking them, and on the flip side of

682
00:34:55.599 --> 00:34:57.559
they don't take them, that he can turn off the

683
00:34:57.599 --> 00:34:59.920
spigot of American funding. He can turn off the spig

684
00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:02.880
of American military aid Egypt. So I think that there's

685
00:35:02.880 --> 00:35:04.639
a lot of pressure that he can put on Egypt,

686
00:35:04.679 --> 00:35:06.559
and he can similarly put on Jordan, and I think

687
00:35:06.599 --> 00:35:09.480
he can also put some pressure on Qatar.

688
00:35:09.880 --> 00:35:12.400
Which needs to prove it about in Saudi Arabia.

689
00:35:12.599 --> 00:35:16.280
And Saudi Arabia exactly. You know, the Saudis have always

690
00:35:16.320 --> 00:35:19.079
come forward and said that, you know, they wanted to

691
00:35:19.159 --> 00:35:22.119
see a pathway toward a Palestinian state in order to

692
00:35:22.199 --> 00:35:25.599
normalize relations with Israel. But nobody is defined where that

693
00:35:25.679 --> 00:35:30.039
Palestinian state needs to be. And perhaps the Saudis, or

694
00:35:30.119 --> 00:35:33.599
the Egyptians, or Jordan or all three. And the President

695
00:35:33.639 --> 00:35:35.400
has said that, he said, I don't know, maybe one place,

696
00:35:35.480 --> 00:35:37.239
maybe two, maybe six, I don't know. That's what the

697
00:35:37.280 --> 00:35:42.559
President has said. And so perhaps the Saudis will We'll

698
00:35:42.599 --> 00:35:46.039
see a new pathway towards the Palestinian entity someplace else,

699
00:35:46.119 --> 00:35:49.000
and then you'll even see them come around the normalized relations.

700
00:35:48.679 --> 00:35:50.199
With well Alex.

701
00:35:50.280 --> 00:35:54.760
My understanding is that Saudi Arabia would be optimum because

702
00:35:55.000 --> 00:35:59.840
of their police force, that they have a very robust

703
00:36:00.559 --> 00:36:06.320
law enforcement organization that could keep hamas and keep these

704
00:36:06.440 --> 00:36:09.039
terrorists in check. And I think maybe that's part of

705
00:36:09.079 --> 00:36:11.920
the challenge for some of these neighboring countries is going, well,

706
00:36:12.000 --> 00:36:13.559
that's fine, and well we let them in here, but

707
00:36:13.639 --> 00:36:15.960
they're radical and who's going to keep an eye on

708
00:36:16.039 --> 00:36:17.039
them exactly.

709
00:36:17.159 --> 00:36:18.920
That's the big problem, I mean, and that's a big

710
00:36:19.000 --> 00:36:22.280
problem also for Jordan, you know, which is already a

711
00:36:22.400 --> 00:36:26.320
majority of that country is Palestinian. Right, if you would

712
00:36:26.400 --> 00:36:28.920
just look at Jordan by demographics, you would say this

713
00:36:29.159 --> 00:36:32.599
is a Palestinian state because well over fifty percent of

714
00:36:32.719 --> 00:36:36.679
the Jordanians happened to be Palestinian. And so the last

715
00:36:36.719 --> 00:36:39.599
thing that they want is two million more Palestinians coming

716
00:36:39.639 --> 00:36:41.679
in there, because number one, then it will be the

717
00:36:41.840 --> 00:36:43.960
end of the Hashimi kingdom, it will be the end

718
00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:46.400
of king of those rule, will be overrun and will

719
00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:50.880
definitively become the Palestinian state, which maybe should be. And

720
00:36:51.079 --> 00:36:56.199
two we've seen how they've destabilized the countries previously, back

721
00:36:56.280 --> 00:37:01.159
in the seventies. Everybody remembers Black September, and so it's

722
00:37:01.199 --> 00:37:04.719
a big question. And if you thought that the Palestinians

723
00:37:04.719 --> 00:37:07.159
could have made peace before, well they're certainly going to

724
00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:10.000
be more radicalized, not less radicalized by what happened on

725
00:37:10.039 --> 00:37:10.480
the seven.

726
00:37:10.760 --> 00:37:13.440
Well, exactly like in areas like you say you mentioned

727
00:37:13.480 --> 00:37:18.079
in Jordan, you have to look at the demographic compilation

728
00:37:18.760 --> 00:37:21.679
of how it the balance is there right now, and

729
00:37:22.079 --> 00:37:24.440
you know, two million people it may not sound like

730
00:37:24.480 --> 00:37:29.360
a lot, but if you add two million aggressives into

731
00:37:29.440 --> 00:37:33.079
that area, as you said, it could knock things out

732
00:37:33.119 --> 00:37:36.000
of kilter. And then you've got a situation there where

733
00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:39.840
I think you've got a kind of a balance between

734
00:37:39.960 --> 00:37:45.239
Sunni and Shia, right, and so now the Hamas agency

735
00:37:46.039 --> 00:37:48.920
is more is more Shia than Sunni?

736
00:37:49.039 --> 00:37:53.719
Right, No, Hamas is a Sunni, Hamas is Sunni. Mostly

737
00:37:53.840 --> 00:37:56.719
Jordan is sunny. But as you said, there's there's about

738
00:37:56.719 --> 00:38:00.280
eleven million people living in Jordan right now. So if

739
00:38:00.320 --> 00:38:03.159
you add two million Palestinians and you probably already have

740
00:38:03.239 --> 00:38:06.960
about six million Palestinians living in Jordan. So if it

741
00:38:07.039 --> 00:38:10.880
became eight million Palestinians out of thirteen million people in total,

742
00:38:10.960 --> 00:38:14.159
that really does affect the demographic balance of the country.

743
00:38:14.519 --> 00:38:16.960
In a place like Egypt, where you have maybe like

744
00:38:17.519 --> 00:38:19.559
many more people, I think something like seventy million, but

745
00:38:19.599 --> 00:38:22.400
I need to check it, you know, or in Saudi Arabia,

746
00:38:22.519 --> 00:38:26.519
where the population is considerably larger, they can absorb a

747
00:38:26.639 --> 00:38:29.440
bunch and even better if you can split them up

748
00:38:30.599 --> 00:38:33.519
and kind of reduce the number so that not one

749
00:38:33.679 --> 00:38:35.960
singular country has to absorb all.

750
00:38:36.239 --> 00:38:39.840
Well, alex I want to talk about being I's a

751
00:38:39.880 --> 00:38:44.280
meeting with Trump in the White House. Trump immediately immediately

752
00:38:44.400 --> 00:38:48.719
released munitions to Israel, and I got to believe that

753
00:38:49.360 --> 00:38:52.360
he did so because he knows that Israel is prepared

754
00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:56.119
to take on Iran, because as he has said and

755
00:38:56.280 --> 00:39:01.559
others have stipulated repeatedly, Iran cannot become a nuclear country.

756
00:39:01.960 --> 00:39:04.440
That's correct. And there might have been a little bit

757
00:39:04.440 --> 00:39:07.800
of a disagreement between Nataniello and Trump during the visit

758
00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:10.960
on the next steps to take visa Iran. The President

759
00:39:11.039 --> 00:39:15.280
has already announced that he's going to reinforce crippling sanctions

760
00:39:15.320 --> 00:39:17.599
on the Iranian regime and that he wants to try

761
00:39:17.639 --> 00:39:21.800
to negotiate with the Iranians to dismantle their own nuclear facilities.

762
00:39:22.159 --> 00:39:25.159
I don't really know how you trust the Iranians to

763
00:39:25.280 --> 00:39:28.519
dismantle their entire nuclear program. You can even see a

764
00:39:28.559 --> 00:39:31.079
scenario which they say, sure, we'll dismantle our program, and

765
00:39:31.119 --> 00:39:34.920
they'll dismantle, you know, some degree of sites. It will

766
00:39:34.960 --> 00:39:36.800
take a long time for them to do it, and

767
00:39:37.760 --> 00:39:40.880
there probably will leave other sites that are very deep

768
00:39:40.960 --> 00:39:45.039
underground untouched. You know. Israel knows where most of these

769
00:39:45.079 --> 00:39:47.760
sites are. I think that Israel is probably looking for

770
00:39:47.840 --> 00:39:51.000
a green light to attack. When it comes to the

771
00:39:51.239 --> 00:39:55.760
weapons that were released, we now understand that the Biden

772
00:39:55.800 --> 00:39:58.960
administration was lying when they said they only were withholding

773
00:39:59.000 --> 00:40:03.719
a singular shipment two thousand pound bombs. Both the Trump

774
00:40:03.760 --> 00:40:07.079
administration and the Nathaniao administration now confirmed that it was

775
00:40:07.400 --> 00:40:11.400
many more shipments of many different types of weapons. And

776
00:40:11.559 --> 00:40:14.719
one of the questions being rightfully asked right now is,

777
00:40:14.800 --> 00:40:17.960
aside from the weapons that Israel had already paid for

778
00:40:18.480 --> 00:40:21.239
and was supposed to receive even from the previous administration,

779
00:40:21.480 --> 00:40:25.719
is the United States now releasing some bunker busting bombs

780
00:40:25.800 --> 00:40:29.840
that body administration never was going to release. And these

781
00:40:29.880 --> 00:40:32.880
are the types of bombs that Israel would need to

782
00:40:33.199 --> 00:40:38.320
conduct fast and effective strikes on Ron's underground nuclear facility.

783
00:40:38.639 --> 00:40:42.440
Well, we know in the last attacks, Israel made it

784
00:40:42.519 --> 00:40:46.000
quite evident that they could attack Iran at will, and

785
00:40:46.159 --> 00:40:50.480
they took out their air defense. So in a sense,

786
00:40:50.559 --> 00:40:54.679
they're you know, they're right for the picking and the

787
00:40:54.760 --> 00:40:59.239
bunker busting bombs have been a point of contention going

788
00:40:59.280 --> 00:41:02.440
back to the old years, which was you know, if

789
00:41:02.559 --> 00:41:06.760
Obama was sincere in saying that Iran would never go nuclear.

790
00:41:07.199 --> 00:41:09.039
We knew that he had his fingers crossed. He was

791
00:41:09.119 --> 00:41:10.559
lying to the American people about that.

792
00:41:11.039 --> 00:41:13.000
Yeah, I think that we know that that's the case.

793
00:41:13.719 --> 00:41:17.199
Not only was the composit with Iran crossing the nuclear threshold.

794
00:41:17.239 --> 00:41:20.039
They didn't think that a nuclear Iran was any more

795
00:41:20.119 --> 00:41:23.320
dangerous than a nuclear India or any other country. But here,

796
00:41:23.400 --> 00:41:27.239
if you see how much Iran has destabilized the entirety

797
00:41:27.320 --> 00:41:30.599
of the Middle East, even before they have a nuclear umbrella.

798
00:41:30.679 --> 00:41:33.119
I mean, it's not just Israel, right, you know, they

799
00:41:33.199 --> 00:41:38.239
destabilized Iraq, They destabilized Syria, which now collapse. They destabilized Lebanon,

800
00:41:38.320 --> 00:41:41.199
they destabilized Yemen, which was involved in a war with

801
00:41:41.400 --> 00:41:46.280
Saudi Arabia. You know, they have destabilized the entire region.

802
00:41:46.400 --> 00:41:49.559
And they've been them in their proxies, have attacked Israel

803
00:41:49.639 --> 00:41:53.920
from seven different countries. And that's before they have nuclear weapons.

804
00:41:53.960 --> 00:41:55.519
And this is a country that doesn't say, you know,

805
00:41:55.639 --> 00:41:58.800
we want nuclear weapons for our own self defense. They're

806
00:41:58.960 --> 00:42:02.079
screaming death is death to America. The leaders of Iran

807
00:42:02.159 --> 00:42:04.519
are saying we will wipe the state of Israel off

808
00:42:04.559 --> 00:42:06.840
the face of the earth. Okay, this is this is

809
00:42:06.960 --> 00:42:09.800
existential threat. You know when maas that put their money

810
00:42:09.800 --> 00:42:13.559
where their mouth is and are funding terror organizations all

811
00:42:13.599 --> 00:42:15.960
over the world saying we're developing nuclear weapons and we

812
00:42:16.039 --> 00:42:18.519
want to wipe this country off the face of the earth. Like,

813
00:42:19.039 --> 00:42:21.639
we're not gonna like we're going to take that seriously. So,

814
00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:24.480
you know, Trump, I think, has come around and he

815
00:42:24.599 --> 00:42:27.159
said even this week, even since the meeting with Natanyao,

816
00:42:27.639 --> 00:42:30.280
you know, we're going to negotiate a deal with Iran

817
00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:32.239
to make sure that they never cross the threshold or

818
00:42:32.400 --> 00:42:34.199
Israel's going to attack them. That's one of the two.

819
00:42:34.719 --> 00:42:36.800
So you know, we have to see what what the

820
00:42:36.920 --> 00:42:39.480
timeline is. I know for Israel, I don't know if

821
00:42:39.480 --> 00:42:41.920
they want to wait to see how effective sanctions can be.

822
00:42:42.599 --> 00:42:44.760
I think for Prime Minister Natanao, he believes that this

823
00:42:44.880 --> 00:42:46.599
is a now or and ever moment. You mentioned that

824
00:42:46.679 --> 00:42:49.719
the air defenses have been stripped, so it does seem

825
00:42:49.760 --> 00:42:52.360
like the timing fernt Israeli strike is very good.

826
00:42:52.760 --> 00:42:54.000
Yeah, exactly, Alex.

827
00:42:54.039 --> 00:42:55.880
We've got a couple of minutes left here and you

828
00:42:56.000 --> 00:42:59.920
mentioned Syria, and of course that takes me north to Turkey.

829
00:43:00.719 --> 00:43:03.760
We've got to keep our eyes on Turkey right absolutely.

830
00:43:03.840 --> 00:43:10.199
You know, Iran's influence over the region is weakening dramatically.

831
00:43:10.320 --> 00:43:13.840
And we see that the second Kitzbal wasn't there and

832
00:43:14.039 --> 00:43:18.760
Iran's air defenses were stripped. That that created a weakness

833
00:43:18.880 --> 00:43:23.119
that was exploited. But al Jilani, who is now considered

834
00:43:23.159 --> 00:43:25.920
that the facto president of Syria, who the Biden administration

835
00:43:26.039 --> 00:43:29.280
says is were formed. I mean, he's got al Qaeda connections,

836
00:43:29.559 --> 00:43:33.880
and it's very clear that he and his terrifaction have

837
00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:38.400
been trained and armed by Turkey. Turkey also smelled the weakness.

838
00:43:38.639 --> 00:43:41.280
And when any of vacuum is gets created in the

839
00:43:41.320 --> 00:43:44.239
Middle East, different forces are going to try to fill

840
00:43:44.320 --> 00:43:46.639
that vacuum. And so Turkey is trying to fill that

841
00:43:46.760 --> 00:43:51.760
vacuum and sees Syria as a forward facing base against

842
00:43:51.800 --> 00:43:53.960
the State of Israel. And so this is really just

843
00:43:54.079 --> 00:43:57.559
trading at this point one enemy for another. Israel is

844
00:43:58.039 --> 00:44:01.599
quite aware of how dangerous a threat Turkey could be,

845
00:44:02.280 --> 00:44:03.760
and they're going to remain on guard.

846
00:44:04.159 --> 00:44:05.599
And what could this mean for the Kurds.

847
00:44:06.119 --> 00:44:08.440
I think that this what you know, if you see

848
00:44:08.719 --> 00:44:12.400
solid diplomacy led by the Trump administration. You could see

849
00:44:12.440 --> 00:44:15.800
a block where the Kurds and the Druis in southern

850
00:44:15.920 --> 00:44:18.960
Lebanon and Israel form an alliance that basically kind of

851
00:44:19.039 --> 00:44:24.119
cuts off Syria in half and make sure that Turkey's

852
00:44:24.559 --> 00:44:27.440
backed forces can only remain in the north section of

853
00:44:27.480 --> 00:44:31.440
that country. Said, there is a buffer zone between between

854
00:44:31.480 --> 00:44:34.800
Turkey's forces and the State of Israel. The Kurds are

855
00:44:35.039 --> 00:44:37.519
are an ethnic minority that deserve a state much more

856
00:44:37.599 --> 00:44:40.639
than Palestinians, and that includes Syria, and that also includes

857
00:44:40.679 --> 00:44:43.400
the Iraqi Kurds. You know, a lot of these countries

858
00:44:43.440 --> 00:44:48.920
were drawn up, you know, by imperialists British and French

859
00:44:49.639 --> 00:44:52.519
after World War Two, and you know, we'll see if

860
00:44:52.519 --> 00:44:54.840
they wind up getting a state. Certainly there would be

861
00:44:54.880 --> 00:44:56.800
in a natural alliance between the Kurds and the State

862
00:44:56.840 --> 00:44:57.280
of Israel.

863
00:44:57.519 --> 00:45:00.599
Well, our thanks to Alex Trehman, the chief execut officer

864
00:45:01.000 --> 00:45:04.239
of the Jewish news syndicate Jans dot orgus where you

865
00:45:04.280 --> 00:45:08.280
want to go to stay informed. Any parting words here, Alex,

866
00:45:08.320 --> 00:45:09.280
as we wrap things.

867
00:45:09.159 --> 00:45:11.079
Up, well, thank you so much. Bill. I mean, I

868
00:45:11.199 --> 00:45:13.119
definitely think we got to keep a close eye on

869
00:45:14.159 --> 00:45:16.400
Trump's policies. But I can tell you that for the

870
00:45:16.480 --> 00:45:20.039
first time that the Ninta Noiao administration and the Trump

871
00:45:20.079 --> 00:45:23.280
administration we're getting together like friends, which is a lot

872
00:45:23.360 --> 00:45:26.760
different than the reluctant allies that Israel had with the

873
00:45:26.840 --> 00:45:27.800
previous administration.

874
00:45:28.320 --> 00:45:30.760
Alex Trainman again, thank you so much. Shut On, take

875
00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:32.199
care well, thanks for having me.

876
00:45:32.280 --> 00:45:32.840
Bill got it.

877
00:45:33.239 --> 00:45:36.159
Well, that's a wrap for us. Our thanks and gratitude

878
00:45:36.239 --> 00:45:40.559
to Alex Treman from Jans. Jans dot org is where

879
00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:42.719
you want to go for more information. As we mentioned,

880
00:45:43.159 --> 00:45:45.760
to stay up to date on all things in the

881
00:45:45.840 --> 00:45:49.039
Middle East. They do such an outstanding job in keeping

882
00:45:49.119 --> 00:45:50.599
us up to date, and that's why I'm so grateful

883
00:45:50.639 --> 00:45:52.639
for Alex to take the time. It's very late in

884
00:45:52.719 --> 00:45:54.920
Israel right now for him to stay up late then

885
00:45:55.000 --> 00:45:58.719
to you know, go around the entire region and give

886
00:45:58.800 --> 00:46:03.119
us an update on all these different factions and you know,

887
00:46:03.679 --> 00:46:06.639
possibilities for peace in the Middle East. Ladies and gentlemen,

888
00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:10.320
that we continue to pray for the piece of Jerusalem.

889
00:46:10.800 --> 00:46:14.840
Also again thanks to John Hart, the chief executive officer

890
00:46:14.920 --> 00:46:15.519
of Opening the Books.

891
00:46:15.559 --> 00:46:16.280
Open the Books dot.

892
00:46:16.199 --> 00:46:17.880
Com is where you want to go for more information

893
00:46:18.480 --> 00:46:20.280
to stay in the flow of the NOE say dot

894
00:46:20.360 --> 00:46:24.320
com dot org. Anyway, the information is all right there,

895
00:46:24.599 --> 00:46:27.360
all that doze is doing, all that open the books

896
00:46:27.360 --> 00:46:29.599
has been doing, you know, for what twenty plus year

897
00:46:29.639 --> 00:46:32.519
is almost twenty five years now in terms of, you know,

898
00:46:33.480 --> 00:46:37.639
doing a deep drill dive into the fraud and waste

899
00:46:37.719 --> 00:46:40.199
and corruption of our government. This is what you've been

900
00:46:40.239 --> 00:46:42.000
asking for. This has been going on for over one

901
00:46:42.039 --> 00:46:44.440
hundred years. Ladies and gentlemen, we know it, and now

902
00:46:44.519 --> 00:46:47.880
we have an opportunity. I mean, this is a clarion

903
00:46:48.000 --> 00:46:52.880
moment that we're at right now. That requires courage, It

904
00:46:53.039 --> 00:46:57.000
requires conviction and leadership, and we have the leadership in

905
00:46:57.079 --> 00:47:00.079
Donald Trump, and we need to continue to support what

906
00:47:00.159 --> 00:47:04.119
Donald Trump is doing. Elon Musk and those eighteen nineteen

907
00:47:04.199 --> 00:47:07.480
year old wonderkids that are asking questions as they go

908
00:47:08.199 --> 00:47:12.880
looking through this evidence and the books that our government

909
00:47:12.960 --> 00:47:15.440
has been hiding away from us. I mean, you know,

910
00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:17.840
as others have said, if you have nothing to hide

911
00:47:18.719 --> 00:47:22.760
and you're so honest, then why are you hiding things?

912
00:47:23.320 --> 00:47:25.199
I mean, there is a reason that they do not

913
00:47:25.360 --> 00:47:28.679
want us to know. And we've gotten already a shocking

914
00:47:28.880 --> 00:47:34.000
brief look at what's happened with our money, just with usaid,

915
00:47:34.800 --> 00:47:38.119
you know, like a twenty million for Sesame street show

916
00:47:38.679 --> 00:47:42.639
in a rock propaganda, fifty six million to boost tourism

917
00:47:43.199 --> 00:47:47.159
in Tunisia and Egypt. Who knew, right, forty million to

918
00:47:47.199 --> 00:47:50.559
build schools in Jordan, like they don't have enough money already.

919
00:47:51.000 --> 00:47:54.079
Eleven million to tell Vietnam to stop burning trash. Eleven

920
00:47:54.159 --> 00:47:57.320
million dollars, right, let's tell him stop burning trash. You

921
00:47:57.400 --> 00:48:01.480
know that it requires eleven million dollars of America's tax money.

922
00:48:01.840 --> 00:48:05.199
Two million to strength and trans led organizations to deliver

923
00:48:05.880 --> 00:48:08.920
gender affirming healthcare. This is where it goes down a

924
00:48:09.000 --> 00:48:14.079
slippery slope because then you get Dai involved DEI scholarships

925
00:48:14.159 --> 00:48:17.039
in Burma forty five million dollars. I mean, this smacks

926
00:48:17.079 --> 00:48:21.519
of a color revolution where America in the name of

927
00:48:21.639 --> 00:48:23.920
the United States of America and red, white, and blue

928
00:48:24.000 --> 00:48:30.360
go in and disrupt the traditions and the faith of communities.

929
00:48:31.199 --> 00:48:33.800
And that's a case in point right there. Five hundred

930
00:48:33.800 --> 00:48:37.199
and twenty million for consultant driven ESG investments in Africa.

931
00:48:37.679 --> 00:48:40.239
And this is just the tip of the iceberg. I

932
00:48:40.320 --> 00:48:42.800
want to thank you all for joining us and sharing

933
00:48:42.840 --> 00:48:45.960
a part of your afternoon with us. May God bless you.

934
00:48:46.599 --> 00:48:49.760
And deep you may make his face shine about you.

935
00:48:50.280 --> 00:48:51.159
God bless, thank you.

936
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Take care,